/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2586948
>>2590181
too Woke for his own good

>>2586948
I guess they all deserve to live in the absolute shithole Yugoslavia has turned into.

>>2586993
>im and Stalin should have just made up and been friends.
two napoleons (i don't mean this in a bad way btw) could never be friends lmao

>>2588828
The Balkan Peninsula, approximately the size of Germany but with only two-thirds of its population, is carved up into numerous independent states. In these tiny states, each possessing its own army, currency, and customs system, or belonging to this or that economic union or military alliance, live numerous nations and peoples, shattered into separate fragments. The borders between these dwarf states were not drawn in accordance with ethnic realities or national needs, but are the result of wars, diplomatic intrigues, and imperialist interests. The Great Powers have always had a direct interest in pitting the Balkan nations and states against one another, only to subject them to their own economic and political influence once they have mutually weakened themselves.

The petty dynasties of political compradors ruling these 'fragments' of the Balkan Peninsula have served, and continue to serve, as levers for European diplomatic intrigues. This entire mechanism, founded on violence and treachery, constitutes an immense burden that suffocates the Balkan nations and stifles their economic and cultural development. The peninsula, richly endowed by nature, is senselessly partitioned; people and goods constantly run up against the barbed wire of state borders. This slicing of nations and states into numerous strips prevents the formation of a unified Balkan economic space, which could serve as the foundation for a great expansion of industry and culture. On top of everything, there is debilitating nationalism, created to maintain division and generating the danger of wars fatal to the peninsula's progress.

The only way out of this national and state chaos is the unification of all the peoples of the peninsula into a single economic and political entity, based on the national autonomy of its constituent parts. Only within the framework of a unified Balkan state can an individual people connect into a single cultural community while enjoying the benefits of a common economic union. Only united Balkan nations can truly stand up to the predatory aspirations of European imperialism.

The state unity of the Balkans can be achieved in two ways: from above, through the expansion of the European Union, neoliberalism, and capitalism—this is the path of oppressing weak nations, a path that consolidates imperialism and militarism; or from bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2586948
Based. He's exactly what most socialists should strive to achieve. His worker's self management objectively worked great and produced one of the "best" economies in the block in terms of consumers goods and quality of life.
The goal of a federated country with socialist self-management and macro-economic planning is probably the most viable path that we should aspire for

>but muh decline & unemployment
The decline and unemployment were initiated by the Party. In essence, the party would subsidize failing companies and incentivize them to hire workers even when they didn't do anything. This caused massive debt that the party couldn't fund and high taxation within the most productive republics, which eventually enflamed the nationalist tendencies.
Unemployment, which was pictured as an ontologic problem, wasn't as endemic as people tend to think. Slovenia, which was the most succesful republic, never had above 4% unemployment iirc. A competitive market alongside state-owned companies directing the economy could've guaranteed low unemployment for everyone.

>>2586993
Iirc Stalin got mad that he didn't get to manage and integrate Yugoslavia into his sphere of direct influence

>>2587150
>Worker co-operatives are a reactionary step backwards
Anon you can't have any more "workers' control" than with self management

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>>2583110
I bet that never gets changed.

>>2584182
Chyna collapse(TM) is copyrighted. expect a lawsuit for using the those words too loosely.

>>2584375
Also in the same polls have the most positive reception to "socialism" and the highest group to oppose War with Venezuela. It is less a moderate group but more that the bloc chooses moderate candidates.

Man US tech is now just a completely anti-social industry. None of these companies are even attempting to make a product that’s good for society, or even community, at this point. The goal seems to be some completely autistic culture of people with locked in syndrome who can’t even think, can’t hold a conversation, can make a meal, can’t even function.

>>2590970
>bumping a dead thread to make a casual observation to nobody in particulary
>apparently thinks "autism" means total lack of any functionality like RFK
sheesh

>>2590730
of course, but it won't happen because it's just another ploy to get the US to commit to go to war with Russia on Ukraine's behalf. the much better solution is for Ukraine to lose and Zelensky to be executed.

A nazi-with-liberal-charactistics governments being replaced with a neutered-liberal government is still progress and it represents a true end of the war.

>>2590730
It won’t happen, Zelensky is not “ready” for an election, he commits unironic terrorist attacks at the mere mention of diplomacy. Because while long lasting peace is unlikely to be found in the negotiation room, eventually Russia’s refusal to acknowledge Zelensky’s authority to sign papers will very likely result in the west holding an election in Ukraine to select someone who technically would have the authority. It goes without saying that Zelensky is very unlikely to be that select and also unlikely he remains a free man in that eventuality.

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>>2590786
>>2590786
>>2590786

>>2590630
He's not wrong

>>2590800
Lies. The bourgeois intelligentsia and counter-revolutionary reformist 'left' have been exaggerating the effects of nuclear war for half a century. Atomic war is not only eminently survivable, but a necessary catalyst for the mass organization of the working class to overthrow capitalism and establish a post-apocalyptic socialist society.

>>2590551
If you want to die just kill yourself. No need to drag the rest of us down with you.
Anti-social anti-communist.

Moved to >>>/dead/6259.

>>2590345
>>2590351
My respect for TRIF decreases when he starts leaving breadcrumbs for the feds. Learn some opsec you ginger fuck. Ain't you ever watch Columbo?

https://archive.fo/20251210135958/https://www.newsweek.com/project-2026-heritage-foundation-document-11183162

This says China is killing 100.000 Americans per year with fentanyl. So, K/D ratio in this cold war is already 1.000.000 to 0, China is crazy effective, K/D ratio this huge is first in history

>>2590176
Also even if the got A.I to work and it replaced a bunch of call center jobs and capitalist bureaucrats. That’s not going to produce any long term profits or value and it’s highly questionable if the infrastructure would be able to support these A.I systems in the first place.

>>2589768
Damn, sucks to be you. still, Platner sucks and I feel the only reason the American left supports him is because they're desperate to get universal healthcare in the US by any means necessary as a result of decades of shame over the US not having it

>>2589756
political discourse on reddit - at least among reddit liberals, including socdems/demsocs; idc about right-wing redditors - basically boils down to one of a few things:
1. American redditors going "omg, America sucks! I just learned Europeans have good public transportation, universal healthcare, a welfare state and good education unlike us stupid Americans! We wanna make everything more like Europe!!! I hate orange man and the republicans and everyone who voted for trump is evil and deserves what they get!"- in other words, they think Europe is the pinnacle of human society and don't think there's anything wrong with it or question aiming for anything beyond it
2. European redditors jerking themselves off over the above - "European here, why are burgers so inferior?" type shit

It's silly and unproductive. One side claims to be leftist but deep down they're basically just intensely self-hating burgers that want to move to Europe so they can become centrist European treatlerites, while the Euro-redditors are too self-absorbed and more treatlerite than they want to admit to themselves to do anything to actually push for meaningful resistance to the US outside of smug posturing, because it would mean having to break from the Marshall Plan-backed US support that makes their welfare states possible in the first place.

>>2589603
vivek chibber is that you

either way, this is correct

Everyone is starving, everyone is in prison, everyone has Kim’s haircut, and even though everyone is starving and in prison they are also a threat somehow

Kim eats all the food

>>2590344

Ask in the DPRK thread.

>>2590344
Have a good day!

https://www.youtube.com/c/ZoeDiscovers/about
North Korea isn't a completely closed off country, a major source of foreign currency for them is Chinese tourists. This is a YouTube channel with videos of North Korea owned by a woman who works in North Korea tourism.

Love the H3 podcast
Anything other than socialist democracy doesn't work
People who love regimes while living in a first world country are cringy as hell

>>2552351
India, Japan, and Ghana all prove that even if only one giant mixed race existed they would still develop a highly racist caste system with untouchables to discriminate against. Unironically this is woke nonsense because you genuinely believe in it. I believe in white genocide because if the global north is taken over from the inside by migrants directly attacking and raping as praxis and taking electoral office while displacing natives they will put an end to colonialism, but as far as believing it will somehow end racism that's just liberal propaganda we sell people, which is why I'm going to have to ask you to go back as your reasoning sucks.

bordiga was cute

>>2589313

Part of the explanation is nouveau riche ideology & lifestyle: It tends to have thoroughly petit-bourgeois individualist outlook, ie. Not recognizing or acknowledging the social and material conditions & forces enabling such rare rapid individual wealth accumulation.

The more "old money upper class" also finds the excessive public displays of opulence to be in very poor taste; Like quasi-prostitutional and very obvious a cue that the person has fallen for window dressing marketing that any truly upper class person is educated to recognize and avoid.

t. Member of the Bourgeoisie.

>>2590093

Addendum: This >>2589316 is some good insight.

>>2589313
People don't care if the boot on their neck has a different foot in it.

because theyre actual, unironic, satanic fucks? im not even talking politics here, the bourgeoisie are plain creepy

>>2589313
leftists is an immaterial term, they perhaps might be some sort of petty bourgoise socialists.
leftism like liberalism are moral systems they "hate the rich"
true socialists see the patterns of exploitation on a larger scale. that exploitation leads to contradictions, the true socialists job is settle to resolve these contradictions not for a moral reason but simply because capitalism is failing

Reminder that Marco Polo described East Asians as having the same skin color as he has. Reminder that there was a Japanese immigrant in early 20th century America that almost succesfully won a whiteness debate before an US court to be considered eligible for US citizenship. Reminder that 19th century European scholars were major hinduboos (compareable to modern weeaboos) and thats why the term "Aryan" was adopted for Indo-European languages. Reminder that the Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons since the 8th century.

>>2588931
>Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons
well, more because they lost them and got colonized

>>2583533
>Persians have white
You have to go back

>>2588709
the big-cock-having moors obviously
read a history book

>>2588921
Yep
Greeks considered the greek/balkan area to be Europe, they considered 'asian turkey', that is Anatolia, to be 'Asia', and North Africa to be 'Lybia'. They knew of India and China but considered them distinct from 'Asia'.
As for the Germanoid lands, the Greeks simply did not give a fuck about them. The musty anglo racists never faced this reality, they shoehorned themselves as being part of 'Europe', when the Greeks did not even think about them. Inconsequential barbarians.

>>2588614
>a perfect state has universal membership
Okay but that is your conjecture, not Peter Hacks. Universal party membership contradicts Hegel’s state theory because the state’s universality is mediated and rational, not totalizing.

>>2588624

you are correct.

But I also heard that in the former Eastern Bloc it was felt that improving the state into perfection was the path towards communism. In my view that seems totalitarian.

>>2588540
Yes but unironically. Nazism needs to be eradicated on a genetic level.

>>2588642

It is indeed totalitarian conceptually.

For a Proletarian Dictatorship to truly triumph, it must come to encompass all of society; Nothing must be outside it or against it.

And it is by this process, as OP hinted at, that the state itself, defined in the Marxist sense as the instrument of class power itself can wither away.

The yet harder pill to swallow is that any totalitarian state almost also itself come to resemble something close to Proletarian Dictatorship. That is to say class collaborationism will never actually achieve what the corporatists say they want it to achieve (comprehensive social harmony analogous to a healthy body); Only something resembling the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can ever hope to lead to anything close to such an outcome.

anarchism was an antisemitic mistake