/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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>>2791011
You should read Marx. You would be surprised to learn that it's "civil society" that determines the structure of the state and not viceversa.

>>2791104
Materialism out of your ass may say that the state determines civil society, but a little Marx would show you that's an idealistic form of materialism. That is, it would be materialism just as in an arbitrary name for a given doctrine. Because how can an account of the state be materialist if it doesn't even consider the most fundamental material aspect of its form and activity, which is the production process that enables all members of society to sustain their life? Your doctrine of the state is idealistic precisely because it hypostatizes a "separate" state capable of shifting the tides of matter in motion, as an external and independent autonomous arbiter beyond the concrete structure of society. And the concrete structure of society, let me tell you, is not the state. It would actually be much closer to te truth to assert it of ancient states rather than modern ones, which is the completely the opposite of what you said earlier. So we come full circle in your assertion and reach a complete contradiction: the dictatorial Lenin who tries to bring the working class to power is still in itself less dictatorial than your own position on what the state is and does: dictate the form of society. If your lenin and your communist party was even true (history shows they were far from a despotic leader and party), they would be your perfect political ideal, a man and a party capable of using the determinant position of the state to shape society from the top down. But that's not what bolshevism was and that's not what the state is and does.

The birth of modernity is precisely the advent of bourgeoise class domination, which generated completely new political structures and a new form of state. You can see it in the glorious revolution, American indipendence and french revolutions, which would have absolutely no sense without accounting for the empowerment of a new class, the bourgeoise, and a new legislation and state form to fit their interests. What need has the feudal lord for the Napoleonic code? They can clean their ass with it, they subsist with the tribute and rent collected from subjects, spoils of war and etc. It is only with the growth of commerce and production, both activities which the bourgeoise advanced to an efficency never before seen, that a universal law resembling a commercial pact between separate, antisocial competitive Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2800360
quads are ez on slow board. we only stand for all same digits

>>2791074
wasn't gonna happen. people attribute his strokes to kaplan's bullets, but really his dad had strokes at the same age, so it was probably a hereditary issue.

>>2830682
>>2830697
Pedestrian?

>>2830705
Bentham did like walking for 2 hours every morning.

>>2830697
https://columbia.edu/cu/lweb/eresources/exhibitions/sw25/bentham/

Yeah its possible it could be him defending gays because there wasnt a word got them yet.

>>2830723
< Bentham advocates the decriminalization of' sodomy, which in his day was punished by hanging. He argues that homosexual acts do not "weaken" men, or threaten population or marriage, and documents their prevalence in ancient Greece and Rome. Bentham opposes punishment on utilitarian grounds and attacks ascetic sexual morality.
hmmmm

>>2830723
I mean, gay and pederast are the same thing since pederasty across the world was the normative form of human homosexuality up until the 1970s

>>2829868
May 68. De Gaulle was the left wing leader fighting against the forces of the réaction, but we were too naive to see it.

>>2829862
>on very rare occasions
>the majority
???
>>2829926
the PCF was just unfortunately an URSS puppet with only people that didn't want to be responsible for any decision at the top (which is most leaderships in general)

>>2830001
"On rare occations the majority of marxists" So most marxists can make a mistake, but thats a very rare event.

I'm not really blaming the PCF for the mistakes there, but with hindsight, De Gaulle was a progressive leader with a planned dirigist economy and an independant foreign policy, May 68 broke this down and brought foward neoliberalism and alignement with the USA. PCF should have pushed de Gaulle to the left and empowered left wing gaullism.

>>2829890
IN SOME RESPECTS.
The Nazis were overall far worse than the Khmer Rouge and were obviously more Right-Wing than them. However, the Khmer Rouge's belief in deindustrialization placed them, on that specific issue, to the Right of the Nazis.
>>2830001
The majority OF THE MARXIST MOVEMENT.
>>2830006
Correct

>>2830772
>Pol Pot was le heckin primitivist
Another classic from the US propaganda machine.

ask deepseek

>>2830846
I thought I'd try the less intelligent corner of the internet first

>>2830798
There is already the political economy thread

We have /political economy/ #7 for this
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>>2829924
I think it's more a divide-and-rule strategy although the IDF is engaged in organized and collective murder in Gaza, but Israel + occupied territories combined is more like if Lebanon was half-Jewish and they exercised much more effective military / police control over the land than the Maronite Christians were able to do. More than 20% of Israel (pre-67 borders) is Arab. This isn't to be like "well it's not actually what people think" but they want to keep the Arabs inside the pre-67 borders from blowing up. These are Arab communists in Nazareth (which is in Israel technically).

>>2829924
>Why dont they just kill all palestinians?
Would create a backlash so they do it slowly.

>>2829931
Both internal and external propaganda ops.

>>2830266
What backlash?

>>2829924
It's not quick nor easy to dispatch of millions of people without employing nuclear weapons, which would render the territories useless

>>2829984
We need a new blues clues show. Call it… green beans

>>2823778
both common terms. Read Lenin

>>2823787
>we could very well see European forces on Canadian territory defending against america
That seems very unlikely seeing as they don't even appear to have the stomach to defend their own territory in Greenland. But even in that case I would still argue against revolutionary defeatism. A socialist revolution in Canada without one in the US would be pointless. It would be swiftly crushed. America needs to become socialist before Canada can even think of it, and that would be far more likely in the event of an US defeat. This would do a lot more to help socialism in Canada than a Canadian defeat would, since the latter would just mean we're absorbed into a new anti-communist regime and have achieved precisely nothing.

If the US were to invade it would be the job of L
Albertian communists to destroy the oil reserves, after all thats what the Americans want

Bump

Very good video about this dude, I encourage everyone interested to watch it

>>2828050
Meds. Now.

He was the last social Democrat and they killed him for it.

>>2830205
Xi did this for Rosa.

>>2830263

Xi/xer, or however the 2010s social progressivism is strawmanned…

>>2830071
Macron est tellement a chier qu'on est le pays le pessimiste au monde.

>>2830067
chabad read that okhrana hoax and thought "damn is this an instruction manual"

>>2830067
What exactly is wrong with Chabad? Their theology is VERY Hegelian.

>>2829689
That's literally what the founding fathers intended democracy to be, protection of their freedom against the heckin tyranterinos and the british. No one without land was intended to vote. The poors are traditionally not human in western democracy.

>>2830279
In American democracy, sure, but France had Universal male suffrage during its first legislative elections (1792) even if turnout was low (11%)
Universal suffrage would come back in 1848 for both the legislatives and presidential elections. And end up with Napoleon III in charge, who'd keep the universal suffrage for his elections.
Only during Vichy France has universal suffrage been contested, with plans for a family based suffrage.

Subject: Irrecoverable L

There's a thread for it in hobby, but I mainly just talk about what I'm reading on siberia.

>>2830091
thank you. you are one of the real ones. I just wish nu had panned out differently

>>2830089
>As soon as I pick up creative writing as a pursuit
good luck anon. people are paranoid these days. they'll accuse you of GPT slop no matter how unique your voice is. and the industry is more oversaturated than ever, so only do it for fun.