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 No.1291193[Reply]

Tunisia's powerful UGTT union rejects December general election
In his most explicit remarks to date, the head of Tunisia's powerful labour union spoke up on Saturday against the general election called for by President Kais Saied and set for later this month. "We no longer accept the current path because of its ambiguity and individual rule, and the unpleasant surprises it hides for the fate of the country and democracy," UGTT's leader Noureddine Taboubi said in a speech to thousands of supporters. With more than one million members, the UGTT is the country's most powerful union and, until recently, it has largely avoided directly opposing Saied.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tunisia-ugtt-union-rejects-general-elections

Cyril Ramaphosa: South Africa leader won't resign, says spokesman
South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa will not resign despite a scandal over money stolen from his farm, his spokesman says. The row centres on claims he kept large sums of cash on his property then covered up its theft. A panel of legal experts concluded that he has a case to answer. But Mr Ramaphosa's spokesman suggested he would fight on, and rather than quit would seek a second term as leader of his ANC party.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63822096

SAPU withdraws affiliation with SAFTU
The South African Policing Union (SAPU) has announced a decision to withdraw its affiliation with the South African Federation of Trade Union (SAFTU). SAPU is the second biggest policing union in the country and was one of the founding members of SAFTU five years ago. It says that under SAFTU, the union’s dream of a new, independent, militant and campaigning federation could not be realised as the organisation failed to grow in provinces and to champion workers’ issues.
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/sapu-withdraws-affiliation-with-saftu/

Iran attorney general to review country's stance on mandatory hijab
Iran's attorney general has announced that the parliament and the SupPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1291279

Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands: Right-wing propaganda disguised as historical scholarship—Part Two
Along with the false portrayal of the famine in the Soviet Union as a deliberate act of mass murder targeting Ukrainians, the misrepresentation of the Great Terror as a campaign of nationally and ethnically targeted killings is central to Snyder’s attempt to portray the crimes of fascism as a response to and mere copy of those of “communism.” Snyder claims that the Great Terror, in which some 1 million Soviet citizens were killed, was “chiefly a kulak action which struck most heavily in Soviet Ukraine, and a series of national actions, the most important of them the Polish, where again Soviet Ukraine was the region most affected.” (p. 107) The main basis for Snyder’s claims are two operations by the Soviet secret service, the NKVD: Order No. 00447, the so called “anti-kulak” order from July 30, 1937, and Order No. 00485, the basis for the “Polish operation” from August 11, 1937. Together, these two operations claimed the largest number of total victims during the Great Terror. Order No. 00447 became the basis for the persecution of almost 800,000 people between August 1937 and November 1938; about 350,00 of them were executed. It is estimated that the “Polish operation” claimed almost 140,000 victims, including over 111,000 deaths. It was the largest of the so called “nationalities operations” by the NKVD. Snyder not only falsifies the character of these orders and their implementation, but also tears them out of their historical context. Again, his selection of facts and categories is not only riddled with mistakes but completely arbitrary. 
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/03/fcxs-d03.html

Union of Communists of Ukraine: Letter to the Russian Communist Workers' Party
We were together when, within the Communist Initiative Movement and the Marxist Platform in the CPSU in the early 1990s, we tried but failed to save the Party and our Soviet Motherland from destruction. Together we share this historical guilt of failing to raise the people to fight and both of us bear the worst possible punishment - the loss of our socialist Motherland. Over the next two decades we stayed together, though each in his own shard of the USSR , at rallies and demonstrations, at factory checkpointPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1291317

>>1291279
Timothy Snyder doing the old false equivalence of Socialism and Fascism, worries me. Liberals of this type have a tendency to project their own intentions. Considering how non existent their scruples were when they rehabilitated Azov Nazis to democratic freedom fighters, this could be interpreted as ominous foreboding.

 No.1291431

>>1291193
'Union of Communists of Ukraine: Letter to the Russian Communist Workers' Party
We were together when, within the Communist Initiative Movement and the Marxist Platform in the CPSU in the early 1990s, we tried but failed to save the Party and our Soviet Motherland from destruction. Together we share this historical guilt of failing to raise the people to fight and both of us bear the worst possible punishment - the loss of our socialist Motherland. Over the next two decades we stayed together, though each in his own shard of the USSR , at rallies and demonstrations, at factory checkpoints, in pickets, at lectures in labor collectives; in our personnel apartments, turned into editorial offices for producing leaflets, bulletins, the magazine Marxism and Modernity, the newspaper Workers' Russia, and other publications. We were one in our not recognizing as communist the parliamentary parties of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the Communist Party of Ukraine; debunking their political conformism and ideological revisionism. We were united in denouncing these parties as opportunist; both of us shared an assessment of them as "petty-bourgeois at the beck and call of the big bourgeoisie". Time has confirmed our common rightness: the road of these parties is the road of a gradual slide into the mire of bourgeois parliamentarism and rejection of class principles; the names of their leaders have become nominal, symbolizing the betrayal of the cause of the proletariat. … We have exhausted possibilities for discussion with the party leadership of the RCWP (these have been attempted at several public international events and in personal correspondence). We have not received a single substantive response to our arguments, apart from the fact that we have "too many words" or the absolutely absurd and insulting accusation that we allegedly "wish defeat for Donbass". We consider it impossible for us to remain in the ranks of a party that has tainted itself with the tactics of tailgating its bourgeois government and supports the fratricidal slaughter unleashed by 3 the imperialists in brutal competition for resources and political hegemony, in which the representatives of the proletariat on both sides of the front die in the first place. We continue the struggle against imperialism in the ranks of the worPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1291983

>>1291914
1.2 billion lost after only 10 days of striking? not too shabby



 No.213976[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.1287749

>>1287720
>Nobody even thinks about Covid anymore where I live. Nobody wears a mask
Same here, and guess what, I just got covid for the first time lol. Shit sucks, I hope my ability to smell and taste comes back.

 No.1287751

>>1287749
I caught it maybe half a year ago but nothing really bad happened. Was just a mild cold for a day or two.

 No.1287809

>>1287751
I caught it and was sick for a week with painful coof and what I later learned was "brain fog" for about a month. Fortunately I was informed that this was psychosomatic brain fog! What a relief. I didn't actually get as sick as I felt because if I had (and I didn't) that would give credence to the mask mandate people.

 No.1291924

Zero COVID is fucking dead thank Jesus, even the Chinese think it's retarded

 No.1291933

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Damn, it was fun to cull the weak until covid made me and my immune system into one.



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 No.1290262[Reply]

Assad rejected Russian requests to meet with Turkey's Erdogan: Report
Assad believes such a meeting would help Erdogan in Turkey's June elections, allowing him to signal progress on returning some of the 3.6 million Syrian refugees living in Turkey to its neighbour, according to Reuters. "Why hand Erdogan a victory for free? No rapprochement will happen before the elections," an unnamed source with knowledge of Syria's thinking told Reuters. … But an unnamed diplomat quoted by Reuters said Syria sees a meeting with Erdogan as "useless if it does not come with anything concrete, and what they have asked for so far is the full withdrawal of Turkish troops [from Syria]".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/assad-rejected-russian-requests-meet-turkeys-erdogan-report

SDF says no more anti-ISIL operations after Turkish attacks
The SDF has long threatened that fighting off a new Turkish incursion would divert resources away from protecting a prison holding ISIL fighters or fighting ISIL sleeper cells still waging hit-and-run attacks in Syria. The Turkish bombardment – using both long-range weapons and air attacks – has frustrated its NATO ally Washington. US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, told his Turkish counterpart on Wednesday that the US was in “strong opposition to a new Turkish military operation in Syria”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/2/sdf-says-no-more-anti-isil-operations-after-turkish-attacks

SDF: Turkey shelled 70 villages and farms, destroyed a mosque
During the twelfth day of the Turkish aggression against the areas of north and eastern Syria, about 70 villages and farms were bombarded with heavy artillery and tanks. In addition, the mosque of the al-Terwaziya village was completely destroyed due to tank shelling on the village.
https://anfenglishmobile.com/rojava-syria/sdf-turkey-shelled-70-villages-and-farms-destroyed-a-mosque-64064

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 No.1291274

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>>1290315
>the imperialist proxy war against Russia in Ukraine

 No.1291676

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>>1290262
>Poolish murders anti-apartheid hero
Poolish never cease to be the biggest scumbags, do they?
>Parole for murder
What is this clownworld BS?!?

 No.1291706

Putin is the ultimate cuckold. For everything he dis for Assad, he gets nothing in return.

 No.1291721

>>1291250
Fixed.

 No.1291918

>>1291706
He got to turn Syria into a literal subject of Russia so that's something



 No.1279921[Reply]

>Identity politics is a political approach wherein people of a particular race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, social background, social class, or other identifying factors develop political agendas that are based upon these identities. Identity politics is deeply connected with the idea that some groups in society are oppressed and begins with analysis of that oppression. The term is used primarily to describe political movements in western societies, covering nationalist, multicultural, women's rights, civil rights, and LGBT movements.

leftypol used to have a hardcore anti idpol stance. This is softened in recent years (esp. since 2020). What is the actual correct stance on "identity politics", how does it relate to class struggle, and how do we stop it from being re-appropriated by neoliberal capitalism?
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 No.1291801

>>1291580
Ignoring the proletariat of these groups are extremely oppressed on top of class exploitation is fash

 No.1291804

>>1291741
This uygha be stuck in a 2014 to 2016 time loop lmfao

 No.1291822

>>1291741
There's no a clear and defined frontier between leftism and liberalism as much as you want to gate keep the left behind your fucked up comprehension of marxism, see picrel, incredible how you can be a combo of the worst aspects of ultras and mls at the same time.

 No.1291835

>>1279955
I agree with a lot of this. I do think SJWs were a fabricated phantom though. Yeah liberal scolds do exist but their brand of identity politics is just cynical and honestly racist in its own ways. Liberal Idpol was never about minorities it was a cudgel to hit the left with to get them to fall back into the democratic ranks. Like when Hillary said "how will breaking up banks end racism?"

As far as the left is concerned, communist and the like have always been social progressive. And especially in the west it doesn't make sense to become reactionary just because some right wing caricatures protray anyone that cares about human rights as soy.

It also doesn't mean we become liberal scolds that try to one up each other in virtue or excommunicate people because they said retard in 5 Years ago. Inclusion for us doesn't mean you get a marvel character, it means you have just as much right to be in the the union.

 No.1291870

>>1291822
Anon this is called revisionism.



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 No.1250399[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

According to the activist, the economic system is responsible for the climate crisis.

Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has expanded her field from a climate protector to a critic of capitalism.

At the launch of her new book in London, Greta Thunberg stated that the goal is to overthrow the entire system.

According to her, there is no "return to normal". According to her, "normal" is the system that caused the climate crisis and "colonialism, imperialism, oppression, genocide" and is racist, discrimination".

Thunberg criticized the UN climate conference as a scam that facilitates the "greenwashing, lying and cheating" of those in power. She said that only "the overthrow of the entire capitalist system" would be enough.
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 No.1289407

Has anyone ITT managed to disprove that firstoid greenoids hate nonwhites and would celebrate their cull just so that Nature is restored, almost like the fascist canard?

 No.1289439

>>1289407
Maybe you should prove that is the case first?

 No.1289513

>>1289407
You should stop getting your ecologism from liberals. And also stop being one.

 No.1289923

>>1289407
>Has anyone ITT managed to disprove that firstoid greenoids hate nonwhites and would celebrate their cull just so that Nature is restored, almost like the fascist canard?
What is presumption of innocence? Because you can "simp" for pastoralist nomads only so much. (Just check out the ongoing ethnic conflicts in Africa. Pastoralists vs farmers is a constant factor.)

 No.1291704

>>1277363
>>1277366
no, i'm right
from 1093 km3 in 1960 to 327 in 1989 and then to 98 in 2010



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 No.1288668[Reply]

daily reminder that the American prison system has more slavery than the soviet gulag system and that the soviet gulag system was more humane than the American prison system.
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 No.1289337

>>1289330
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Fish_III#Fish_Committee

Hamilton Fish the Third. Congressman from NY. As you can fucking imagine, in democratic USA he was third in a line of congressmen from NY, with his grandfather, father and son all being congressmen from NY.

>Fish was touted by the Germans as a friendly American ally.[34] Time magazine once termed him "the Nation's No. 1 isolationist."[35]


>On August 14, 1939, Fish, president of the US delegation to the Interparliamentary Union Congress conference in Oslo, Norway, met with Joachim Ribbentrop. Fish flew to Oslo in Ribbentrop's private plane.[36]


>In 1941, a judiciary panel investigating the activities of Nazi agents in the US, sent officers to the Washington headquarters of an anti-British organization, the Islands for War Debts Committee, to seize eight bags of franked congressional mail containing speeches by isolationist members of Congress. George Hill, Fish's chief of staff, had the mail taken to Fish's office storeroom just prior to their arrival.[40]


>A grand jury was convened and summoned Hill to explain why he had been so solicitous about the Islands for War Debts Committee's mail and his close association with George Sylvester Viereck, a Nazi propaganda agent. (Viereck would later be convicted of violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act and for having subsidized the Islands for War Debts Committee.) Hill said that he had not sent for the mail and did not know Viereck. The jury promptly indicted Hill for perjury.[40]


The amazing shit you can find by just DIPPING your toes into the anticommunist propagandists' personal files, lol

 No.1290606

>>1289337
So, I bring proof, and nobody cares. Reeeeee

 No.1290704

>>1290606
I care anon. I appreciate you anon.

 No.1291401

>>1289230
>>1289234
thats simply not true at all
there many inventive punishment used before death or exile

 No.1291402

>>1291401
Okay sure, there was also mutilation and slavery, but overall, imprisonment was not common.



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 No.1286009[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

HIM PROOOVES THAT COMMUNISM IS MORE FREE, FFS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqvaMEFIdI

..but then he make cringe lik:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etPUkkUd6YI

In any case, Ukr. vs. Rus. is like Star Wars:
Good side vs. Bade side

The force (so far) is with Zelenksy.
The (angry) force is wtih Putin (black side of the force).

rest of mandatory shit:
NEWS
>Zelensky’s wife claims Ukrainians ready to suffer
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 No.1290596

>>1290371
>I have no idea whether anti-Maidan fired first, not sure if anyone really knows.
Latest investigation said the first shots came from buildings occupied by Euromaidan militias. Someone posted a link in previous threads.

 No.1290672

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Irl wojakposter liquidated

 No.1290727

>>1290672
shame they didn’t get him alive and reenact the scene in reverse

 No.1291301

god damn it, post the link to the newest trhead you cucks

>>1290302
>>1290302
>>1290302

 No.1293335




 No.1289532[Reply]

West Singhbhum District, December 1, 2022: A fierce gun-battle has been underway between a squad of cadres belonging to the CPI (Maoist) and security forces in Jharkhand’s West Singhbhum district since Thursday morning, a senior police officer said.

The engagement broke out when cadres of the CPI (Maoist) outfit opened fire on approaching security personnel who were undertaking a search operation in a forest in Tonto area and the law enforcers returned fire, Deputy Inspector General (Kolhan division) Ajay Linda told PTI.

When asked about reports that two security personnel sustained injuries in the firefight, he said the encounter is still underway and further details are awaited. Security personnel comprising joint teams of CRPF and Jharkhand Police have been undertaking a massive search operation in the area for the last fortnight to nab senior Maoist cadre Misir Besra, who carries a bounty of Rs 1 crore on his head.

A large number of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), planted to inflict casualties on security forces, along with arms and ammunition were seized during the operation.

Source : https://www.outlookindia.com/national/gunfight-underway-between-maoists-security-forces-in-jharkhand-news-241528
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 No.1290836

>>1289532
Revisionists alienating the working class

 No.1290995

>>1290832
maybe she's covering her face for the photo but still wanted to appear like she's firing?

 No.1291003

This is huge!!!! They're going to win any day now…………

 No.1291009

>>1291003
It's called "protracted" for a reason my guy

 No.1291911

>>1289532
good luck to them



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 No.1288817[Reply]

The book is titled "War is the Greatest Evil There Is"
I will say, the book do be making that idea believable, war is bad, like, really bad, like, really really bad
All the worst crimes imaginable, murder, rape, theft, torture, deception, destruction, decimation, and genocide; all are expected and most are encouraged in war. Hedges has seen the worst of humanity and he affirms how truly evil war is.
My only disagreement is with his technology bad and humans inherently sadistic takes.

And also he's right that porn is bad
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 No.1290943

>>1290941
You complained about my ideology being dead and I gave you examples of several large countries who where birthed out of ML ideology and continue to thrithe in the face of western hegemony.

It is why im a ML, not a left-com; I like things that work and exist in reality.

And do I think the Russian war was good?

Yeah, of course; what do you think the alternative was? It was good because relative to the bad opition, which was perptually slavery and famine it was good.

 No.1290948

>>1290941

Also literally no system or ideology, even anarchism is free of a bad past. Anarchism so often predates fascism and gives room for neo-liberalism to enter.

It is a completely idealist ideology with no plan or action and will forever be irrelvant; the best an anarchist state can hope to achieve is being invaded by a capitalist country.

Your criticisms are laughable

'They expect me to read a book!'

Clearly too much to ask for 14 year old liberals online who watched mr robot once

 No.1290953

>>1290941

lets do some anarchist theory reading

“Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.

This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ….”

Source: Michael Bakunin, 1871, Personliche Beziehungen zu Marx. In: Gesammelte Werke. Band 3. Berlin 1924. P. 204-216. [My translation - UD].

 No.1290976

>>1290973

Imagine subscribing to an ideology coined by a white nationalist anti-semite then expecting anyone to take you seriously.

 No.1290987

>>1290985

Il take the one with more solid ideological basis that has achieved material improvements in actual peoples lives instead thanks



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 No.1289189[Reply]

I understand colonized vendidos/collaborators with the colonizers exist since inmemorable times, but what really baffles my mind is when some collaborate with colonizers that don't want to simply exploit the local population and extract its resources and labour, but actually genocide them to build a settler state in its place, what explains the mentality of people like pic related who collaborate with colonizers who actually want them dead?
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 No.1290256

>>1289205
the myth of la malinche is overblown and is only viewed as a "mother" figure by octavio paz, a rabid anti-communist. actually tons of peoples collaborated with settler colonizers, they were all motivated by deep animosity towards the aztecs, partly, but also because they expected to be rewarded with lands and spoils previously held by the aztecs once the conquista culminated, which they were, however briefly.

 No.1290268

>>1290243
She seemed to be portrayed as an authority figure by the tlaxcaltecas so it's fair to say she wasn't a slave, in fact she got to enjoy quite a bit of power herself. I mean I do not understand why do people insist on erasing the complex system of alliances the spaniards made with indigenous people such as the tlaxcaltecas and portray the spaniards as a massively overwhelming force that easily dominated the aztecs and raped and looted wherever they went. I mean I guess partly is some sort of paternalist racism towards the indigenous I guess, but also this is easily one of the most fascinating portions of the entire process of the conquista, fabricating a complex network of alliances with indigenous lords despite a cultural and language barrier that is basically unimaginable today, on what's essentially a completely alien world to the spaniards.

 No.1290319

>>1290243
Read a book retard

 No.1290325

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>Ayo that funpost be too spicey, 2 weeks

kys

 No.1290403

>>1289189
Fuck this idiot. Keeps being an ass in SEA.



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