/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I'm legit surprised that the Peruvian government actually did act like a democracy is supposed to do and prevent reactoid coups. The dipshits will keep trying no doubt and might very well succeed, but the fact that a liberal democracy put up a fight at all for the sake of a duly elected commie is something I never expected.

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>>389276
They probably know a coup would bring about another Shining Path type movement

Now that Castillo's win was finally recognized the real challenge begins. He will be inaugurated in a week, let's hope for the best.

>>389276
Commies get duly elected all the time in LatAm. The true question is whether they can fight against the inevitable US coups.

so I had some beers with a laser phycisist friend of mine today who is a bit of a lib, but he admitted that he favors the Bohmian interpretation of QM. what does this mean?

>>392902
Not answering question because i do not know but asking one. What is your chance of Communism-Pilling your friend?

>>365665
>I have to admit i don't understand why the higgs boson particle was called the god particle
From a common and prevalent misunderstanding. The discoverer called it "the goddamned particle" because of its elusiveness and shortened it to "god" for public tastes.

>>392902
>Are lasers, communist rays ?
probably ;)
think about it, photons that share the same wavelength all going into the same direction
all lasers are red
>is my friend a crypto communist
probably not if he drank beer, as everybody knows communists exclusively drink vodka
>he favors the Bohmian interpretation of QM. what does this mean?
The lasers got to him ?
I'm making fun of you, because Bohm was canceled by McCarthyism and had to go to Brazil to avoid persecution.
It means your friend prefers the materialist interpretation of QM

>>392909
he wasn't too opposed to /cybersoc/ ideas, especially in the context of climate change mitigation. he was also curious about Capital, so I'm thinking of gifting him my copy of volume 1
>>393242
>not calling it "the fucking particle"
imagine what could have been
>>393659
>all lasers are red
he works in infrared even. ultracommunism confirmed
>It means your friend prefers the materialist interpretation of QM
as a physicist should. I also told him about QBism and he thought I was shitting him

america has been essentially a totalitarian police state since 9/11 but covid helped seal the deal. if you're still looking around at the world and wondering when fascism will happen as if it isn't already here, globally, you may be retarded
of course, the old-school left is too destroyed in most places for the ruling class to bother pretending to be revolutionary socialists these days. they just pretend to be woke instead, in this case saving (minority) lives from the big bad virus. but the real purpose of lockdowns and propaganda was atomising the population and decreasing their capacity to resist the "great reset"

what if ironically the attempts of the center shitlibs to stave off radicalism actually end up the start of the full degeneration of the burgerland, sort of similar to how succdems tried to unleash the korps on luxemburg and co., and then later those thugs came to power and then proceeded to attack the general Left regardless of level of radicalism

>>392989
Incorrect, some got prominence. The Allies were just better at snatching them up

>>382911
>legalise … sectioning into a psyche ward

This is nothing new and is arguably the whole reason psychology came into existence in the first place; psychology has a huge amount of its roots in the eugenics movement, arguing for instance that slave runaways were mentally defective. The same is true today, a lot of pathologies, especially anxiety, depression and generalized neuroticism, are unarguably caused by economic circumstance and these same people will approximate a vulgar critique of capitalism when outlining their illness to a shrink.

What is new, I think, is the crackup of centralized ideological state apparatus' because of the internet and the state desperately trying to get a grip on hegemonic ideological discourse hence their broadside at digital platforms especially ones with little to no moderation.

In terms of a lurch toward fascism, I don't see it. The state is more or less as authoritarian as it always has been, they've just adapted their methods alongside the technological and societal changes. The glowies aren't assassinating commies and radical trade unionists because they don't exist in western countries not because they got better after COINTELPRO came to be public knowledge. Furthermore, the most 1984esque authoritarian shit they've pulled for a long time was the mass NSA dragnet surveillance systems the Snowden leaked and all that was put in place long before any concern about an uptick in Antifa and neo-boomer Nazis.

Monopoly capitalism isn't hankering for an open terroristic dictatorship of the bourgeoisies, even Trump's facile nationalism was to strong for them or rather their profitability and power. The petty bourgeoise seemingly are lurching in a fascistic direction comparatively but that's because all small business owners are insane people that are squeezed between monopoly capital (i.e jewish capital) on one hand and any form of organized labour (i.e commies) on the other. The petty bourgeoise can have only pseudo-revolutionary potential because their mode of existence is based on Capitalism and will always be at threat from monopolists and organized labour hence them abstracting those elements for Capitalism proper as Jewish perversion and Communist subversion respectively

nothing authoritarian about enforcing law / civil code

another shit is that americans are largerly uncivilized / barbarian so they will see it in some other light (muh oppression)

>>391793
>is a head of state in 2021 sincere about x ?
kek

>>391793
I don't think he is sincere at all. He lost almost all his center-left supporters (who went to the Greens) so to have any chance to win in next year elections, he has to appeal to the conservative/reactionary right.
The center-right and the liberal right support him already anyway.

>oppression and degradation of female comrades should be allowed in any case, religious or otherwise
You’re a bad communist and invested in spooks

hmmm wait a minute

>>381265
Big brain: Representative democracy is just liberal vanguardism

>>380996
>Being a CPUSA member in the 1930s wasn't like being a Blood, even if they happen to share the same colour scheme.

ma uygha

>>368082
>hate society
>join the communist party thinking it's the way to destroy society
>do secret work for the GRU
>dip out of that lifestyle
>proceed to snitch on people who were never part of the party to begin with
>get a fuck ton of clout as an anti-communist celebrity
Cringe.

>>356445
>>356454
>>368082
Snitches *clap* get *clap* stitches. *clap clap*

>>356445
Gross.

>>367100
>Welcome to the eternally present moment of late capitalism, when nothing ever changes because the temporary is stretched into the interminable, the falling rate of profit is priced in and the future is sublated into the present.
History moves slowly Anon. It's been less than 20 years since the neoliberal system entered its protracted crisis. Marx already perceived capitalism's self-destructive tendencies in the 1840s, but it took another 30 years for a serious workers' movement to emerge, and another 40 for the first successful socialist revolution.

Imminent doesn't mean tomorrow or yesterday

within the next few decades which is imminent in historical perspective

>>365866
Just leaving this here…

>>366433
FPTP voting makes impossible for socialist parties to get votes. No votes = no publicity = no movement.

Sage and hide demoralization threads, anons

>>385745
>It seems the US went from supporting one side of the elite to another, WTF is happening.
This was pretty common in the cold war if anything it's good that the bourgeoisie are not united.

>>385745
It’s actually really common for the US to do that. So that they can always play the good guys whenever one of their stooges goes out of line and pissed off everyone. The US initially supported Castro against their old lapdog Batista because they didn’t know that he’s a communist.

idk i could also just see this being a product of how fucked Haiti is

>>385783
Because he wasn't.
Fidel is based af but we have to be honest about things, the Fidel Castro that fought in Sierra Maestra against Batista wasn't a commie (Raul and Che were though) he seemed to be a liberal with succdem reforms, and he wasn't even going to be president, but leader of the military.

It was only after he got cozy with the USSR and ordered US refineries in Cuba to process Soviet oil instead of American that the US barked at the idea, and Castro said "Fuck it" and started nationalizing US companies, like the United Fruit Company.

It was then that the US started plotting against Castro and launched Bay Of Pigs, and during the speech* Castro openly declared the Cuban Revolution a socialist revolution, surprising and confusing a lot of people that would later join the anticommunist bandits.

The first constitution that declared Cuba a socialist state was made as late as 1975.


*Embed, the speech.

>>393166
>It was only after he got cozy with the USSR
The U.S. attacking them happened before.

>>393309
You have been muted for 2 seconds for unoriginal post.

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Why is it that libs make propaganda against something but often make it seem badass? Obviously not always but why don't they always portray what they're trying to paint in a negative light as ugly/disgusting/etc?

Chirpy goes on >>>/b/ lol

>>393450
homofascism.mp4

>>393547
This is true and sort of obvious for anyone who has more than a cursory understanding of history (so neither OP nor the poster you are replying to). To use an example from the Communist struggles of the 20th century Cuba was a strong friend of the Arab socialist movements for political as well as cultural reasons. As a result of this friendship both movements were more successful than they otherwise would have been. To use an example that mirrors this cultural schema but goes back further: The Arab emirate in the Iberian peninsula was a thriving hub of arts and sciences precisely because it was (relative to its time) a pluralistic society where Arab muslims, Berber muslims, and Hispanic (in the sense of being from what had been the Roman province of Hispania) muslims an opportunity to work alongside as well as engage with intellectually and culturally their Christian and Muslim neighbors. The golden age of this emirate ended when power was seized by a much less pluralistic regime which was not tolerant of religious minorities. The camaraderie between people of different races and creeds in andalusia resounds through time and across the globe and was what led José Julián Martí Pérez to declare "We are all moors" when he supported the independence struggle in Morocco against Spain. It is also what provided the chance for bonds of solidarity to be formed between Cuba and various Arab states and non state actors (e.g. Egypt and the PLO). To look for solidarity only within your own racial and cultural group is a sure sign of that group's decline. Those that are sure of themselves do not hesitate to work with others. For an example look at the work of the Chinese with their various partners with the Belt and Road initiative. For another example look at Iran and their many allies some of whom are Arab muslims and some of whom are Christian (the Iranian state provided covert support to the Armenians in their war against the Azeris.)

>>393397
I don't hate you anon

>>393440
someone should really format this in a better way holy shit was that painful to read

>>393440
kek this is next level autism

>>393246
there's a lot of people without taste in this world anon.

>>393222
>He omitted the key information about leftists and neolibs war against police being what caused them to embrace Neo-Nazism.
neolibs aren't warring on the pigs, that's hilarious. liberal parties are forced to feign leftward when their voter base (which is usually to the left of the party) gets mad, but the funding for liberal parties doesn't come from the voter base, it comes from cop-adoring porkies who want to keep their investments safe from the poors and the proles. liberal politicians are therefore willing to pass "police reform" laws as long as those laws are either toothless, easily revocable, or both.
>>393222
>agitation groups like BLM and Antifa.
BLM is both a slogan and a liberal organization. the slogan is older, and a "BLM protest" may or may not have any connection to the organization called BLM. the purpose of the organization is to help corral rage into safe channels of liberal reform, not to give rise to that rage. in fact it has been the cops who helped feed people's rage the most.
antifa is the name of a very old, very broad movement, as well as the adopted name of a whole bunch of mostly local organizations (some grassroots, others astroturf). once again, "antifa" could refer to all kinds of protests and protestors. where are these centralized, well-funded, well-organized groups which drive the entirety of leftist protest in the US that you seem to think exist?
>The bolsheviks thought the proletariats would take up arms and fight for their revolution, but too many of them were cowards. The tsarists were ultimately defeated by the peasantry, who were fighting for bread and not ideology.
this indicates to me just how diligently you have studied the subject: not at all, because you sound like you are repeating an anecdote you heard from one of your kameraden. the leading class of the russian revolution was the proletariat, though the peasants numbered more. the first places seized in 1917 were major cities and the rail and telegraph lines connecting them. the red guard was formed from workers, and only after the creation of the red army were peasants fighting for the bolsheviks in any significant measure. and,
>fighting for bread and not ideology.
you've accidentally stumbled on a golden nugget of marxism. Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>393222
>The OP is apparently both surprised and unhappy. He omitted the key information about leftists and neolibs war against police being what caused them to embrace Neo-Nazism.
In what way are neolibs against the police lol. The police literally the enforcing arm of the existing state.
>That's right. But who gives them their orders? Politicians who themselves get their orders from their corporate masters. The same corporate masters who fund the agitation groups like BLM and Antifa. Your problem isn't really with the police anon, because you may be funded by those who ultimately decide what the police force's objectives are.
Where is the actual proof of this? The BLM organization is certainly funded by certain corporations, but the actual larger movement doesn't seem to be at all. Antifa in particular seems to show zero proof of financing, largely because it isn't an organization to begin with. And our issue as communist would still be with the police regardless.
>I don't know where you'll get that army from today the you need. The bolsheviks thought the proletariats would take up arms and fight for their revolution, but too many of them were cowards. The tsarists were ultimately defeated by the peasantry, who were fighting for bread and not ideology. Some of Russia's toughest fighters and generals came from this class. You're not going to build a peasant army today, especially not in my country.
What the fuck is this garbage? This isn't even revision, this is just an outright lie. It was the proletariat in the first place that allowed the allowed for revolution to occur in many of the major cities in Russia, and who later were crucial towards the Bolsheviks gaining the upper hand in the provisional government and causing the Mensheviks, SR, and other factions to storm out. Many peasants loyalties and interests were also majorly divided during the revolution, and many simply did not participate. And many of the major generals that took part weren't even peasants, but former established military generals that used to fight for the Russian government itself.

>>393246
>I've seen original SS officer's jackets sell for $30,000. A cap with the totenkopf pin and Nazi Eagle pin sell for around $5k.
All this is telling me is that wehraboos are willing to shill out big bucks to satisfy their fetish, and massively overpay for it. Selling fake iron crosses is also a huge market as well, because LARPers will literally eat that shit up even when its obviously fake.
>There's a huge market for original Nazi uniforms. You couldn't give Sverlov's cum stained jacket away to charity.
Because most communist enthusiasts aren't shilling out big bucks for what they know they could just get a replica for, and understand that most Soviet apparel is just functional apparel for the time and not some Uber super special unique piece of cloth that's worth the cost of a car.

>>393246
>hey commies, look how fucking expensive it all is
>oh but it's a reeeaaal? real heinrich himmler ss uniform still in the plastic? ooooh i neeeeeed it aahhh i'll pay anything sir please sir
this is why you lost the war