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1. Isreal is utterly dependent on American aid and American support is dwindling.

2. Jewish people are not the majority in Israel/Palestine. No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.

3. The B.D.S. movement. Israel simply cannot afford to become an international pariah.

4. A large percentage of Israel's Jewish population will leave when Israel is no longer able to support a First-World standard of living.

5. Hubris. The Israeli government is unwilling to make the necessary concessions and reforms.
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I saw the older thread and thought my post was deleted but no OP made the same thread twice with slightly different spacing for some reason

>No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.
The problem is arabs are arrogant goycattle that cant cooperate across borders or between communities or between sects to save their lives. Look at syria man. Arabs also cant fight.
If South Africans and Rhodesian bantus were as mediocre as modern arabs you can be sure these places would still be ran by Anglo-Dutch masters.

>>2392625
If the US ends aid to Israel China and India will simply make Israel their own pawn.

>>2392872
>They will just jump to china
China has nothing to offer them nor does Israel have anything to offer to China. They wouldn't be getting free fighter jets and nuclear submarines from China. China already has good relations with every other country in that region. In fact, China allegedly gave military support to Iran during the recent conflict with Israel and is considering selling them J-10 fighters. Israel's reputation is in the toilet everywhere and it would be utterly counter-productive to its foreign policy for China to "adopt" them.

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>>2392625
>GIBS MOAR SHEKELS PLS
shoot the sand monkeys back to allah



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what do I think what do I read what do I do please help me become le based anarchist I am clinging onto any identity that makes me feel less like a fat loser
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>>2397479
It is quite sad that you could not give an Intellectual critique of my Dialectical Materialist argument on why Maoism is superior to both Anarchism and Revisionist “Marxism-Leninism”, and instead resorted to Ad Hominems about my Eccentric Writing style, 😂🤣! Additionally, out of pure curiosity Comrade, what ideology does your flag represent, 🤔?

>>2397501
Don't listen to him King, keep the posts nice and long so he will cry and fuck off back to reddit where he came from.

>>2397509
Thanks Comrade, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

Be a horrendously self-centred person and do all your thinking for yourself, meaning exorcism.

>>2397509
I'm permbanned from reddit or else I would be on r/ultraleft, at least they're actually funny unlike KKKing Lear



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>>2397960
>Calling it white supremacy is also inaccurate given as there is no such thing as the white race and never has been.
That is such a retarded statement and I already know that if I press you on this you will say "Oh no, I meant it's not biologically real" which we all agree with, but the statement is still moronic.
>Calling something white supremacy is inaccurate because there is no such thing as a white race (biologically speaking)
In that case calling anything white supremacy will always be inaccurate for the same reason. It obviously refers to the imposition of this fabricated social construct and not its actual existence in nature.

>>2398023
whatever

>>2398041
Fuck off you asswipe. Drink bleach.

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>>2398073
>"You shouldn't just go around accusing people of being pedos, let alone the president!"

Reminder that they were so baffled by Biden swearing on his family's bible ("I've never seen a bible that big before!") they were convinced he had a dead baby stuffed in it like an alcoholic stores a flask of whisky.



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I was looking to see how much of the eastern bloc had access to internet before dissolution, checking if I could find the earliest websites registered with a .su domain, or if the USSR itself had a government website before formal dissolution and such. While I couldn't find anything about that, I did manage to find the official website of Yugoslavia since the .yu domain lasted until 2010.
https://web.archive.org/web/19981205144522/http://www.gov.yu/
I also managed to find what appears to be an instance of Gadaffi's Libya government site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010518210154/http://gov.ly/

Are there any other such relics? How many former AES states had internet before dissolution?


Bonus: Cuba's OLD website which changed domain around 2018 -
https://web.archive.org/web/20000301132300/http://cubagob.cu/
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>>2394839
>we can see parralels with the modern day of media and particularly now youtube channels making content such as "Russia / China will collapse in a year"
Picsrel

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Good thread

>>2394830
>They were really outspoken in criticizing the west.
Before the 99 bombing politics in third yugoslavia had a good cop bad cop routine almost,were the ruling party SPS was the good serious sensible cop and their on/off collation partners the right wing radicals SRS and yugoslav left JUL were the insane bad cops.
Milosevic was the guy you can talk too his wife is the insane psycho that wants to kill every westerner that was the game and it worked and to this day its still used in almost every balkan country.
The anti western stance was part of this game it wasnt a serious position held by the government i mean the number two man was a CIA agent from the start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uUCJ2-p-2M
this is a short animation made by the army after bosnia however it was suppressed and didint air anywhere.

>>2397869
not that the antiwestern sentiment wasnt real in the people,writers,intelligentsia of course however the state clearly had breaks and could stop it and censor it when needed or just scapegoat it on the bad cop.



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Nation state and State Religon is the way. Every Nation, Ethnicty, Religon, Culutre, Idenity and list of Values deserve a state. USSR and Yugoslavia are proud examples of forcing a bunch of Groups together in some Fucked up abomination. if Socialism want's to start up Class consciousness it must start at State level if we actualy want the Workers to rule.

>>2397725
People are both dived by Nationality and Class.

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>>2397726
Just barely
Only in so far as one's own ignorance and confinements too mediocrity and sameness

Another words I only give enough of a shit about my country in it's what I know and grew up with. But if I at all care about my own benefit as a person and as a worker I'd quickly discard any notions of national interests. Fuck my nation because fuck my government and even my family. They undermine my existence.

0/10 ragebait

>>2397756
ITs Uninronic sadly or gladly?



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Reminder that Marx's criticism is not actually "immanent", that's just garbage pushed by philosophy nerds. You don't need all that immanence crap to make a point. It's just pretentious ideology made to sound profound, projected onto Marx by critical theory clowns trying to impose a purely epistemological framework onto the object of study.

It is entirely possible to analyze a system objectively and recognize how it operates according to the interests of the system. Concepts like "dialectical thinking" are pleonasm. If you're thinking correctly, you're already thinking dialectically by default to explain, not to mystify; to clarify relations, not to invent essences; to use logic, not to absolutize it.
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Capitalism fucks itself in the ass. That is the immanent critique, okay?

who /critical realist/ gang here?

>>2395198
>Your own image is refuting what you're whining about.
yeah
>The people bastardizing dialectics are Stalinoids who follow his and Mao's bastardizations
nah. bet u cant name even one of these supposed bastadizations

>>2396778
>you cannot be a marxist if you reject Hegelian dialectics

why

>>2396778
>you cannot be a marxist if you reject Hegelian dialectics
good, because i'm not a marxist, i'm a communist



 

Are Uyghurs actually worse than regular normies?

This is an important distinction, since the reactionary camp encompasses two types of people.

1. Normie operating on instinct
2. Entrenched cultist with ideological conviction

For example, America is full of the first kind. I wouldn't expect your regular American Christian to oppose life extension through science, because they wouldn't be ideologically consistent enough in their worldview to want that. Their fear of death or inconvenience in the moment outweighs the abstract possibility of heaven in their mind, creating a sort of instinctive doublethink. For such people, religion is an expression of autopilot conformity. They don't have agency are more like red blood cells in the social organism rather than something to be exterminated.

Keep in mind, I have massive contempt for the first type of reactionary. Unfortunately, they are the VAST majority in every society, and the "socialization" solution for this majority is only achievable through careful sustained effort (as the USSR learned the hard way). If the Uyghurs are a variant of this first type of person, then overkill persecution isn't necessary and won't achieve much (aside from bad optics).

HOWEVER, if they are like the second group - Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or other moralizing fundies who would prevent us from playing god with science, they deserve everything they get and more.

Most of what I know about these people is from heavily biased sources. Do we have any objective proof that Uyghurs belong to the second category of fundamentalist reactionaries? I have no stake in this matter, and am open to a convincing argument on why they people actually suck.
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>>2282861
I will repost an In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Maoist Effort Post I made on this topic in another Uyghur thread, Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!


State Capitalist/Social Democratic Social Imperialist China is a “Controlled Opposition” to U$ Imperialism in the same way that the U$ Democrats are “Controlled Opposition” to the Republicans, thus making China the “Global Democrats”, with the massive caveat that a Maoist faction taking over the CCP and purging the Dengists could place China back in the Socialist Mode of Production on the Shining Path to Communism without another Maoist PPW there, though despite this fact both China (Iran is another example of a Lesser Evil Controlled Opposition) and the U$ Democrats should be “Critically Supported”, not because we genuinely support these Bourgeois entities, but because they are both a “Lesser Evil” faction of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System who De Facto prevent the “Greater Evil” of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System from completely crushing the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World before the World Maoist PPW can be successful when the Global Nuclear War breaks out, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!


The Uyghur Nation will receive Self-Determination/National Liberation in its own Uyghur SSR (This will only include the Uyghur majority Tarim Basin, while the Chinese majority Dzungaria will be in the Chinese SFSR, though Mapchart only gave me the option of coloring in all of Xinjiang/East Turkestan), and the Tibetan Nation will receive Self-Determination/National Liberation in its own Tibetan SSR, with the rest of the territory of the People’s Republic of China becoming part of the Chinese SFSR (this will also include the Chinese majority regions of Taiwan, Singapore, and the disputed South China Sea Islands), in accordance with the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSRs as articulated in Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm and Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://wwPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2289041
I'm willing to believe some people lived older than jean calment but weren't considered legit by western verification processes, but this particular lady doesn't look much older than 90. I've been around a lot of very old people and there's a lot of variation but you look at people over 110 and they look like breathing corpses.

>>2397326
uyghurs were like 20 percent of the population in the urban areas like urumqi a hundred years ago as well, because xinjiang has always been a multiethnic region. xinjiang was a name given during qing dynasty after the dzungar defeat…guess who allied with the qing to defeat them? uyghurs. guess where uyghurs are from originally, mongolia. they migrated to xinjiang in 8th century, han dynasty was there 1000 years before.

>>2397673
I'd say it's still fairly indicative of an economic divide between uyghurs/han people

>>2397326
>But yes otherwise I agree, there is no genocide but very heavy handed "re-education" camps and political repression.
People call it re-education but in many cases it is just education. Woman are not allowed to go to school or enjoy any education within these extremist groups so it is no surprise that any time we see one of the "re-education camps' it is largely filled with woman.



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THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM

As a supporter of the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, I obviously realize that the Democrats are a Controlled Opposition Party who exist to keep the Workers and Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of Naw Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, inside the U$ corralled and controlled, while the dominant ruling Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans transform the U$ into a Full-Blown Fascist Police State, which combined with the fact that the U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American population like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police, as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists as stipulated by Lenin’s principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR, which will happen once World War III escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted, with the former U$ Balkanized into a New African SSR that includes the Black/New Afrikan majority counties of the Black Belt, a Hispano-American SFSR that includes the Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo majority counties in the U$ Southwest, along with the rest of the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas, while the White Settler majority regions in the rest of the former U$ becomes part of the Anglo-American SFSR, which also includes the English-speaking provinces of Canada, as Quebec will become its own SSR, with all the Native American reservations becoming ASSRs) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2382579
Flawless analysis, comrade.

Trvke

>>2382579
I see you still have not removed the jewish ethnostate from your map of a supposed future Global USSR KL

Why are you a Jewish supremacist? Why do you uphold Zionism even in your lil fantasy project? Why you think jews have the right to establish an ethnostate in a supposed union of soviet socialist republics?

You are a good person, King Lear. May I ask how old are you, please? If I had to guess, I would say 25.

>>2384566
I am older then that, but I wont specify how much due to Doxxing concerns, and on another more interesting note, what do you and my other fellow Comrades think are the best and worst parts of my “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform”, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🤔?



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If you 'denounce' the historical real socialism that existed and exists, you can't be a communist.
>but those were not real communism
Real communism is the movement which abolishes the current state of things (private property the alienation of species-being) and it is the expansion of worker association to international terms. To think 'communism' can be reduced to just a single historical act is silly. It is, after all, a process. Real socialism was one such historical act in a chain of many to come.
>okay, they are communist, but they are totalitarian! They are authoritarian!
Those are empty words liberal ideolouges use to justify equating the Soviet anti-colonial socialist project and the Nazifascistic colonial Lebensraum project, to keep the status quo of liberal representative democracy as the 'only democratic nonauthoritarian' society.
>what do you mean the soviet project is an anti-colonial project?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/18.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/07b.htm
>I… I didn't know. I'm sorry. I will now study the history of the Soviet Union and build an antiimperialist socialist project on the Marxist-Leninist tradition. I will support the anti-colonial Palestinian people's struggle. I will globalize the intifada.
And you will defend the People's Republics of China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Belarus and the DPRK. You will study Cuban agroecology and you will learn to live with nature. You will have Chinese high speed rails and high quality Belarusian agricultural machinery. You will be happy.

Any questions?
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>>2396086
>Aes is when Japan starts a colonial empire based on European capitalism. The development USSR and imperial japan are literally the same thing
Historical development understander has logged in I see

>Socialism is when states can't have nukes

Lmao

>The USSR fell, therefore it's completely worthless and should be demonized even more than it already was when it was around. Me not understanding the forces that led to it's fall must mean everyone else believes in great man theory

Don't you ever get tired of hating on socialist states?

>Worked so well that the vast majority of ML regimes openly destroyed themselves against the (alleged) will of the masses who (allegedly) held the power over the state specifically so said national republics could benefit from the free flow of commodities and capital from the Western bloc, including Moscow itself?

Despite that, it's still more and higher achievements than anything you could possibly present. Probably why you sound so resentful of them, because they actually achieved something and you actually achieve less than nothing

>>2396049
You're confusing terminally online Dengists with MLs
The terminally online Dengists have no coherent ideology

>>2357645
He's right though. The rise of Bordigists online can definitely be felt. As we speak, the notion of "left unity" is being destroyed on leftypol, in no small part thanks to them, who have no qualms with dismantling "leftism".

they aren't even leftcoms lol. its just anarchists who got bullied into changing their identity

>>2397235
>implying
Libcom.org readers did not discover Bordiga yesterday. Unless you're talking about Agent Kochinskiites, in which case, does it make any sense to you that they would flip from fetishizing bourgeois democracy to stanning for the anti-democracy autist.



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Current federal election forecast in Japan: the Japanese Communist Party has lost a number of decade long held seats, and it’s now looking like the far right will be the main opposition to the already conservative ruling party. The centre-left opposition has absolutely floundered (again), while several centre-right parties have soared and the "leftist" Reiwa party(calls itself a true conservative party) and overlaps with Trump folks did manage to take a few seats

Who cares about elections in a rogue Chinese province?

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>>2397095
I mean but seriously. Japan has no interaction with the world but through pervert cartoons. I guess they're still a good car-maker of ICE engines, I drive a 2003 Acura myself and that thing is amazing. No serious problems ever. It just twerks, and I probably am way overdue for oil change,.

>>2397124
Don’t forget pervert RPGs

The Abe faction of LDP left for even more right wing parties, great job Ishiba!

Japan should have been smashed into dozens of states under effective Chinese or effective Korean control after WWII.



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