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>sanction country with planned economy
>embargo country with planned economy
>artificially cause shortage of stuff
>cause public dissatisfaction
>claim planned economy doesn't work
>make use of reactionary "communist" governments repeating the same lie to further emphasize your point
>people buy into the lie that weak growth is due to inherent problem of planned economy

Fucking glowie filths keep getting away with this every time. How do we stop this menace ? DPRK is the only fucking planned economy left on the fucking planet bcuz of this shitfuckery.
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>DPRK is the only fucking planned economy left
1. no, even by your standards DPRK is also privatizing somewhat
2. by non-purist standards, most of the economies in the world engage in at least some level of planning. Even the most diehard capitalist governments like the United States don't want to go full ancap because they know damn well that you need to subsidize essential industries, have production quotas for things like food and fuel, and have long term economic plans to strategically outmaneuver geopolitical rivals.
>Fucking glowie filths keep getting away with this every time.
I'm cautiously optimistic. When you first read something like William Blum's Killing Hope it can be easy to get really depressed and despair, but the more recent attempts at CIA/NED coups have failed pretty miserably. The coup against Evo Morales only lasted a year, Anez was thrown in jail, her IMF loan cancelled, and Morales' indigenous socialist party MAS returned to power. The assassination and coup attempts against Maduro failed. Lula got out of jail and beat Bolsonaro. Even if you don't think these guys are socialist enough, it's pretty cool that they bounced back from imperialist meddling. Yes, multipolarity is more scary and unpredictable than unipolarity, but it also presents more opportunities for socialists to seize power since the global unity between the imperial core bourgeoisie and their regional compradors is fractured.


Devil's advocate:
China is doing fine, at the cost of massive liberalization. Not debating the socialist status, but they undoubtedly face the same enemies and the same economic warfare. Last cold war, the domestic bourgeoisie stood to gain mid and long term from breaking ties with socialist countries and subverting their own economies in pursuit of liberalization. Now it's the "first world" who needs protectionism and whose interventions will mostly result in economic subjugation without greater profits.


>>1488279 (me)
Oops miss click.

The first world is now acting more like a colonial power than an imperialist one, their only recourse is brute force and the harder they clench their fist the more the means to finance it fall through their fingers. Even the gulf monarchies are now entering into diplomatic and security deals with Iran, against the will of the USA, because they understand the only tool left for the USA is bringing ruin to BRICS's trade partners until they can be forced into a military competition for that trade.


>7 years of military service

a result of being at war with the united states

> intense supervision and censorship on press

banning western media sources while at war with them isnt suprising, and actually good when you consider a communist country shouldnt allow liberal media to lie to its citizens


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>even by your standards DPRK is also privatizing somewhat
Those are small regions in which investments are allowed. But vast amount of the country has public ownership and they produce for meeting needs according to a plan unlike the red capitalist countries in which even SOE production is for profit and functions like a private company.

>most of the economies in the world engage in at least some level of planning

Yeah but they plan to extract profits for few individuals and exploit workers. Capitalist planning is just socialism for porkies. Red capitalist countries also do planning just to allow companies to exploit workers even better than their neoliberal friends.

Also the countries you mention have no clue what socialism really is about. They are mere social democracies. They are even more dangerous than neoliberals. Such social democratic policies will only push workers further to the right when they see that social democracy fails every time to sustain itself due to capitalist crisis.

>China is doing fine, at the cost of massive liberalization
China might be doing fine now but not for soon. All red capitalists including Lao, Vietnam will eventually face the problems of capitalist relations. Many advanced cities of China already has unaffordable rents. The cost of living is shooting up. Capitalism of course provides a golden age initially. Same was the case with South Korea, Japan, EU and all the rest. But eventually the crisis of overproduction will find their way. The bubbles begin to form and these "socialist" countries will also face one crisis after another unless they go back to central planning to meet needs than profit making. Marxist laws are bullet proof. Every country that adopt capitalist relations will face these problems even if they have communist aesthetics.

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Is the internet bullshit?
The vast majority of people use the internet to do banking and mail but slightly faster, and watch shitty slop on Netflix or whatever
Social media is a pyramid scheme to defraud marketing agencies using inflated numbers and making people talk about nonsense
None of it is particularly necessary to the functioning of modern capitalism like it's made out to be, and a lot of the infrastructure relies on increasing monopolization i.e. Cloudflare and Google/Alphabet buying up IP addresses and backbone networks which will probably easily collapse during a financial recession just like what happened when the dot-com bubble popped
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I would still much rather check out a book from a public library
There's really not very much that online commons resources like libgen have that a well-funded urban library system doesn't have


To be fair, Kiwi Farms users are only doing what the internet was always meant to be used for: identifying and surveilling perceived threats to order. It's just that it's been "democratized" from governments like the US to random reactionary mobs.


Well actually the internet was supposed to be used for exchanging research data over long distances.


Public research universities in the US have always been an integral element in the military-industrial complex. Many research programs rely on government and military grants, the CIA recruits their agents from them, and they happily lend their expertise on certain topics to the military.


True but that doesn't refute the point

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Is korean culture really as fucked up as manhwa makes it look? there hasn't been a single korean comic that I've read, regardless of genre, where korea isn't depicted as the worst shithole imaginable with seemingly the worst aspects of western and eastern cultures
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well "my life as a loser" ended, it had all the designated good characters being fabulously wealthy business owners and influencers and the bad guys end up working at subway(I'm not making this shit up)
I get wanting to be comfortable but what is this obsession with being a rich internet celebrity, say what you wanna say about Japan but I have never read a Japanese martial arts series which rides so hard on the concept of being a millionaire celebrity


>They just get all their clothing at the mart.
Burger thriftiness comes from that Calvinist thing I think in which making a lot of money as a businessman is praiseworthy but we're not allowed to truly enjoy it because that makes us feel guilty. We can never be truly decadent like Italians or Gulf Arabs.


>Jesus Christ that’s like 99% of KPoop
I watched this one video that was a song about being independent and doing whatever you want but they spend the whole time shaking their butts like total prostitutes in front of record executives in Los Angeles.


south korea is a cyberpunk dystopia



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i can't believe people skip straight to marx. you can't even begin to understand marx until you have read the following thinkers in the following order:

Hesiod (7th cent. BC), Thales (early 6th cent. BC), Anaximander (6th cent. BC), Anaximenes (6th cent. BC), Xenophanes (6th-5th cent. BC), Pythagoras (6th-5th cent. BC), Heraclitus (6th-5th cent. BC), Parmenides (born ca. 510 BC), Zeno of Elea (born ca. 490 BC), Melissus of Samos (fl. ca. 440 BC), Anaxagoras (fl. mid-5th cent. BC), Leucippus (5th cent. BC), Empedocles (late 5th cent. BC), Democritus (born ca. 460 BC), Philolaus of Croton (late 5th cent. BC), Diogenes of Apollonia (late 5th cent. BC), Protagoras (d. ca. 420), Archytas (5th-4th cent. BC), Socrates (469–399 BC), Hippocrates (d. ca. 380 BC), Gorgias (483-375 BC), Antisthenes (ca.446-366 BC), Aristippus (ca. 435-356 BC), Xenophon (ca. 430-c.350 BC), Plato (429-347 BC), Speusippus (ca. 410-338 BC), Diogenes of Sinope (ca. 404-323 BC), Aristotle (384-322 BC), Xenocrates (395–313 BC), Theophrastus (372–288 BC), Crates (d. ca. 285 BC), Epicurus (342-271 BC), Pyrrho (d. ca. 275–270 BC), Zeno of Citium (344–262 BC), Euclid (fl. 300 BC), Arcesilaus (ca. 316-241 BC), Cleanthes (d. 232 BC), Timon of Phlius (ca. 320–230 BC), Erasistratus (fl. first half 3rd c. BC), Herophilus (3rd c. BC), Archimides (ca. 287– 212 BC), Chrysippus (d. ca. 206), Carneades (ca. 214–129 BC), Philo of Larissa (158–83 BC), Antiochus of Ascalon (ca. 130-69 BC), Lucretius (d. ca. 50 BC), Philodemus of Gadara (1st cent. BC), Cicero (106-43 BC), Aenesidemus (1st cent. BC), Agrippa (1st cent. BC), Andronicus (1st cent. BC), Boethus of Sidon (second half 1st cent. BC), Eudorus (fl. ca. 25 BC), Philo of Alexandria (first half 1st cent.), Thrasyllus (d. 36), Seneca (d. 65), Quintilian (ca. 35-100), Plutarch (ca. 50-120), Epictetus (ca. 55-135), Calvenus Taurus (first half 2nd cent.), Aspasius (ca. 100-150), Justin Martyr (ca. 100-165), Ptolemy (ca. 100-170), Marcus Aurelius (121-180 (reigned 161-80)), Irenaeus of Lyons (ca. 130-200), Sextus Empiricus (fl. ca. 200), Clement of Alexandria (ca. 150-215), Tertullian (155-ca. 220), Galen (129–ca. 216), Alexander of Aphrodisias (fl. ca. 200), Numenius (mid 2nd cent.), Apuleius (mid 2nd cent.), Alcinous (2nd cent.), Origen (185-253), Plotinus (205-270), Porphyry (234-ca. 305), Iamblichus (ca. 245-ca. 320), Calcidius (fl. 320's), Arius (ca. 260-336), Lactantius (ca. 260-340), Antony the Great (d. 356), Victorinus (fl. 353-362), JulianPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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psshhhh i bet you didn't even start with attempting to decipher pre-historical proto-writing, or accompanying archeologists at neolithic dig sites


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>Benjamin Franklin (d.1790), George Washington (d.1799), Thomas Jefferson (d.1826)


god he has that hilldawg charisma. hillary truly is the female nixon


Exactly. Where is Confucius, Laozi, Mozi, etc.?


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I think I'm honestly sick of established/academic marxists now more than ever. This unearnable authority just proves that they should never be taken seriously, and whenever someone brings up the Wolff types or the "marxist who has been around before 2008!" we should just laugh.
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Communist party of vietnam, lao too are just capitalists with red aesthetics. I dont know why dont they just declare themselves capitalists at this point… fear of losing face ? lmao


Unpopular opinion but they shouldn't have purged the trots in 45, they were basically the only ones struggling to organize peasants and workers into soviets while Ho Chi Minh was busy copying the constitution of the united states.


Nowadays Capitalist Party Vietnam (CPV) is busy exploiting workers and protecting private companies with police. Based beyond words.


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What does leftypol think of David Harvey? Does anybody have a photo of his girlfriend?


This but unironically.

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I engage in no spooks, and I gotta say lulz is vital to space travel.
I try to be a retard consistently, dab on solipsists, and so on but
I found myself unable retard
retard not work
does not function correctly
I fucked up
I searched for leftism in my life
and I found nothing
I am sad. but, well not happy but yeah, I can handle it.(not politics)
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Powell needs to raise rates faster. The NEETS must be driven to the streets.




elaborate and so on


is philosophy related to science


hmm what do I with this?

have gay sex with it?

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>Basically dictatorship in Hungary, an even further right party at 12% support
>PiS leads the government and destroys the justice system in Poland, an even further right party at 11% support
>Italy elects a far-right Prime Minister, first since the war
>SD giving government support in Sweden
>Spain looks likely to elect a conservative government in July, possibly with Vox support
>Finland forming a conservative government with far-right support
>Far-right hitting 15% support in Portugal
>New ultranationalist party at 14% in Bulgaria
>AUR at 18% support in Romania
>Le Pen's party having record high support in France, polls show she would beat Macron (who cannot run for a third term)
>AfD at 18% support in Germany
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In my country, the leaders and top members are all bourgeoisie, from rich backgrounds, Ivy-League, and have worked with some terrible multi-national right of university. 1 party leader has been proven to have a laundered millions of development money away from Africa. Of course nothing happens to them and people still vote for this person.
There really is a lack of good leadership in the West when it comes to leftist parties. Really depressing to see.


I was more reffering to RW/Fascist politicians in my post. I agree with you that most "leftist" politicians are grifters. But with some exceptions RW politicians are mostly sincere in their politics, they're just so incompetent and idealistic that they cant get anything really important done (when they dont make things worse for themselves in the long run lol).


center left parties doing that aren't even being rewarded in the polls. Face it, the proletariat don't care about 'common sense' immigration policies

>But with some exceptions RW politicians are mostly sincere in their politics, they're just so incompetent and idealistic that they cant get anything really important done

Like who?


Mostly everyone mentionned in this thread


That is not an answer. Here is a counter example. Le Pen literally wanted to raise retirement age before her opportunistic posturing in the reform riots.

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How does capitalism, and its most retrograde right wing layers, even keep the idea about race in the public discourse to begin with? I don't think "race" is even really an apolitical and scientific concept to begin with, but if we take science as mediated through the superstructure, then something like race may be naturalised and justified through "genetics" and ancestry/genealogy databases.
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Looks like he's saying the opposite to me:
<A more sound rebuttal I think is that evidence shows that poverty and especially education can explain autism score differences far better than any race-based theory could.
While I have seen people on the right argue that race and I.Q. are associated and this disparity also explains the differences in overall wealth, that doesn't seem to be the point he was making.


Because ideas of racial inferiority provide an ideological justification for the hatred of the 'undeserving poor' which unilaterally occurs within capitalist societies.


Modern science is mediated by the superstructure. None of it is "real" except in this political order.


capitalism is incompatible with tribal social organisation, thus modern "race" is meaningless linguistic concept.


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race is a socially constructed and flexible spook; germans used to be considered nonwhite by anglos

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>lost support from Hungary
>lost support from Turkey over the imprisonment of a Turkish philanthropist over there
>lost favor with Israel as Bennett & Putin discussed plans to revive the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and Russia lifted their air space to allow Israel to hit Iranian targets in Syria
>lost favor with Israel also when war criminal Netamyahu's Likkud party seeks to further relations with Russia; Israel even refused to give away their Iron Dome defense systems (even though they were built with US FUCKING TAXDOLLARS)
>lost favor with Saudi Arabia and UAE after Biden removed Iran-backed Houthis from their list of terrorist organizations, citing a humanitarian crisis
>lost favor with South Korea after they refused to hand over their weapons
>Ukraine was involved in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan even though they're not a NATO country
>get backstabbed by India
>Bolsonaro is a non-interventionist
>lost favor with Germany
>lost favor with the French who veto'd a bill that would allow ammunition to Ukraine
I don't get it. Are we switching from Hebrew to Ukrainian? Because that's where it seems to be headed.

Anywhere else that's still friends with the United States at this point? Iraq? Sudan? Libya? It seems our only allies are backwater shitholes now (that we created).
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Xiggers… I kneel…



>if WW3 breaks out it's totally the bourgeoisie doing kayfabe, professional wrestler style… what's that? national bourgeoisie versus comprador bourgeoisie? unequal development? unipolar hegemony? those don't exist!


>I don't get it. Are we switching from Hebrew to Ukrainian? Because that's where it seems to be headed.
>A people is used as cannon fodder to fuck with Russia
>They are gaining influence and power
You guys are bigger retards than pol, at least they understand the nature of the relationship


TL;DR lol go sperg somewhere else

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The prison sentence of a left-wing radical stirs up controversy in Germany

A 28-year-old woman sentenced to over five years in prison for attacks against neo-nazis.

The verdict of a court in Dresden sparked a series of large-scale protests in Germany.

A 28-year-old woman, referred to by the German press as Lina E., received a prison sentence of five years and three months. Lina E. was found guilty of acts of violence against neo-nazis and extremist far-right groups.

The court also determined that Lina E. was one of the founders of a group defined as radical left-wing by the judiciary. The group was involved in six violent attacks against neo-nazis.

Lina E. has been in pretrial detention for over two and a half years. After the pronouncement of the sentence, the Dresden court released her on bail, as there is a right to appeal the judgment.

Protests are expected

The case of student Lina E., has garnered sympathies from leftist activists across Germany. Just yesterday, supportive demonstrations took place in Leipzig, Bremen, Hamburg, and Berlin.
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The soviet union massively profited from Germany being strategically bombed by the allies and for all its faults Stalin was not a genocidal maniac and even if it was degenerated the soviet union was not about exterminating people because muh national revenge so it's non sensical to call them gentle. If the allies hadn't bombed german cities the soviets would have because it just makes sense in a total war.


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>hotwheels bought it and is promising it back by 2025
>no wait that was 0chan, sorry, i cant keep them all straight
Not according to info on 420chan.org…
What just happened?
>Fredrick Brennan (★コピペ) bought 420chan.org on April, 20, 2023, from Kirtaner for the sum of US$4,200 (US$420×10) and uploaded this landing page. For the full agreement between them, see the below signed contract.
>420 x10 lel
Future plans
>Under new management, Kirtaner will remain the admin of 420chan, with Brennan as owner. The goal is for the site to be owned by a non-profit organization, with Fredrick Brennan as Chairman of the Board, by 2025. There are plans to rebuild the site from scratch.
>Additionally, a legal challenge will be brought to recover the servers that were seized by law enforcement in 2022.
based Hotwheels


>dditionally, a legal challenge will be brought to recover the servers that were seized by law enforcement in 2022.

tf they do?


why would black blocs waste time fighting with football hooligans? they should just team up to smash the state together instead, they both want to.


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oh shit, they're bringing back propaganda of the deed?
how many more monarchs are left?

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