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Alberto Fujimori, a former president of Peru who was convicted of human rights abuses, dies at 86
Fujimori, who governed with an increasingly authoritarian hand in 1990-2000, was pardoned in December from his convictions for corruption and responsibility for the murder of 25 people. His daughter said in July that he was planning to run for Peru’s presidency for the fourth time in 2026.
https://apnews.com/article/fujimori-peru-lima-died-777fdfcb09eafd731a7412c8bf1a2f64

Chile's President vows to repeal amnesty law for Pinochet crimes
In a speech on Wednesday commemorating the 51st anniversary of Gen Pinochet’s bloody US-backed military coup against the elected left-wing government of Salvador Allende, Mr Boric said: “We renew our commitment to democracy and human rights, always, in our country and everywhere in the world.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/chiles-president-vows-push-repeal-amnesty-law-pinochet-crimes

Mexican senate gives final approval to sweeping changes to judiciary
In a marathon session that ran for more than 12 hours, and had to be paused and relocated after protesters broke into the senate building, the ruling Morena party and allies clinched the final two-thirds vote needed to approve the changes, which have prompted protests, a strike by judicial workers and market volatility.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/11/mexico-senate-approve-changes-judiciary

Eight Palestinians killed in Israeli strikes on occupied West Bank
Israeli strikes Wednesday killed eight Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian health ministry and Red Crescent said separately, with the Israeli military confirming air raids in two locations.
https://www.newarab.com/news/eight-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-west-bankPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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TYBNA new carti, leftypol back and smoking on that fujimori pack :D

>Alberto Fujimori, a former president of Peru who was convicted of human rights abuses, dies at 86
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

>Fujimori bit it
Rest in piss you won't be missed

>Lawmakers discuss plan to gradually lift retirement age in China
The people's austerity



 

This is Mexico's new left wing president, and first female president in the country, say something nice about her.

>Will continue the plans the previous president had

>Aims to push education and scientific reforms to push the country to the next level
>Has a PhD in Engineering, and part of a Nobel prize winning team that developed research to counter global warming

Honestly the future is fucking bright for us
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>>1882432
bruh internet schizos are taking over actually

>>1874767
How on earth is banning outsourcing sinophobic?

>>1914418
>necrobumped a thread after a month to ask this

>>1882599
Seeing politicians and the like adopting that kind of thing IRL is a sign that it's on its way out. Those kinds of memes propagate in large part because they let the people involved feel like they're in on a joke that le normies aren't. Once you shatter that illusion of exclusivity, once it becomes something your aunt partakes in, it loses most of the appeal that got it popular to begin with.

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Are you loyal to Commandante Sheinbaum?



 

>according to Cockshott (a comrade, who defined for a generation how we should lower working hours WHILE enducing productivity,) the Barista working in UK/USA is 1200x more exploited than the fucking Africans harvesting those coffee beans.

Is he, like, retarded?(existing cockshott thread)
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>>1943969
>>1944002
thats not even remotely close to true

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>>1943934
>Aftica needs more China and less USA. That's from the very mouths of Africans themselves.
the chinamans burden


Here, read this:
Capital Volume I, Chapter Twenty-Two: National Differences of Wages
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch22.htm

>>1943732
>200years after Marx
Marx died in 1883.
>we have a global CHAIN OF PRODUCTION
Marx observed and talked about trade between continents, e. g. cotton.

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thoroughly entertaining thread



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Bush Jr brought us the forever wars, millions of dead Iraqis and Afghans, the PATRIOT Act, surveillance state, Evangelical madness (he claimed God told him to invade Iraq), etc. Even Killary once called his VP Cheney the "Darth Vader of the Republican Party". But libs with TDS have conveniently forgotten about all this, and think Trump was worse because of mean tweets.
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remember when during trump the libs tried to rehabilitate bush ?

>>1943664
there's this belief that Bush was, not only totally lobotomized, but also emotionally controlled by his father and tricky dick. i can see why someone would think he's stupid, there are many quotes that really dont make him look smart but after all what he did was a joint effort no matter how you put it

>>1942802
there's a good case for this, Bush was the first republican "people's" candidate, he was supposed to be soft, accomodating and generally in touch. the dems attacked him over his gaffes and incompetence so comparing him to Reagen and Bush senior really works out as in "displaying the republican decadence"

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>>1942735
/rant
The USAno political theater needed a break from the "end of history" and it's consequences. The Twenty-teens were the pivotal moment when US hegemony started to show undeniable signs of decay on the mainstream and so Trump was introduced as the new focal point.

This was, as it's often the case, replicated in the rest of the imperial core. A "new right", fully zionist, NATO compatible was appointed the new boogeyman in the political theater. With all the xenophobic propaganda recoded to reference them instead of the last century woopsies. And a new front of succdems had their stage set for class collaborationism at home and imperialism abroad.

But "Trump-ism" (or however you call that BS, AfD in Germany, Vox in Spain… w/e) must come to an end, obviously. For starters , mortality, Trump will most likely not be able to run again. And the policy demands of the cold war mean the succdems are required to overlap on pretty much ALL OF IT with their purported opponents. So this arc has to be wrapped up.

And which better way to wrap it up than to bring it right back to the beginning, to the "end of history" years. Now depicted as the "good old days" where triumphalist hysteria had westerners feeling good about themselves while they spread utter misery around the world, the so called "blackest reaction". Where "policing" the world though overwhelming military and economic power was a good and righteous cause. Those days of the hopeful future for the western urbanite living in the beginnings of their thousand year BurgerReich, seemingly unstoppable.

Don't believe the 9/11 self victimization. It wasn't revenge bloodthirst how the people lived through it. We wanted and needed release, catharsis for the epic battle we had just won in the cold war. Color revolutions and impersonal sacking/bombing of eastern untermensch does not feel the same. Our entire national identity is built around the chauvinism that justifies imperialism. You can't just take away the viciousness behind a facade of human rights and "democracy"! Everyone wanted to be able to say the quiet parts aloud again. And we thoroughly enjoyed it.

And guess what, it's going to happen again. Perhaps, hopefully for the last time, although no less enthusiastic.

>>1943712
>And which better way to wrap it up than to bring it right back to the beginning, to the "end of history" years. Now depicted as the "good old days" where triumphalist hysteria had westerners feeling good about themselves while they spread utter misery around the world, the so called "blackest reaction". Where "policing" the world though overwhelming military and economic power was a good and righteous cause. Those days of the hopeful future for the western urbanite living in the beginnings of their thousand year BurgerReich, seemingly unstoppable.
I member when I was in middle school in the aughts my teacher told me it was already over and the Chinese century is inevitable.



 

It is no secret that the mods have access to our IP addresses (IF they want to check) therefore ro our countries of origin where we post from.

I would like to ask the mod team to generate monthly data based on /thread/ participation [BY COUNTRY] + pro/against predisposition in thread.

A simple % per thread per country of origin would suffice. I would guess, for example, that 50% of the negative posts regarding the USA inside /USApol/ would come from non-USA citizens.

I would also guess, that 70% of the negative comments about China would come from NATO countries.

You get my point, really. All of this could be avoided, by say, making every second month "meme-flag-denial" and "location-flag" month.

Meaning, that we get to see the country of origin every second month INSTEAD of their meme-ideology-flag for a change.

I honestly think this would, on the long run, improve leftypol.

cont.

I would also like to see by IP (=country) the participation rate in our mods' chat server (hugbox).

I bet my left testicle that a burger has more time to mingle with mods than a fucking Czech poster

>>1943596
It looks pointless and it probably won't result in anything other than people insulting each other based on their relative countries.

im a third worlder and i hate campists

/thread

>>1943596
Don't care. TAke it to /meta/, faggot.



 

We've probably been in one for at least 25 years. The Dark Age will not be televised.

Once capitalists won the Cold War, there was no longer a need for research supremacy over the Soviets, and the system no longer needed to moderate its worst impulses in order to justify itself, and so we returned to the old-style evil proto-fascistic capitalism we had thought died during the New Deal era. The 1990s boom masked this, at least in the US where people were able to get rich on stocks and tech; it wasn't clear until the 2010s that this was a long-form decline, but it is one.

Future societies will look upon this as another gilded age.
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>>1942792
So it’s the governments fault for why it took British people centuries to realize not bathing or cleaning their homes is objectively uncivilized?

>>1942774
what a glow post

>>1942792
It's funny how reputations are different in different circles. Many would probably think of Germans as some kind of hygeine freaks or something, but in most of the world they're known for not bathing. In some places they call what we call a "whore's bath" a German bath.

the "dark ages" werent dark because they were backwards but because we dont really know what happened during them due to lack of information

>upon this as another gilded age.

They'll call it the 'Hot Century'.



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I’ve been monitoring Africa a lot more than usual, and a thought came to me about the historical mass migrations of entire populations towards centralized settlements throughout history. One pattern that is visible among these migrations is the idea that cultural genocide is the primary contributor to these movements. Whether it’s war, famines, jobs, extradition, etc. in some way or another, people tend to move towards centralized areas when their leaders are shot and their interpersonal connections and values are destroyed. Cultural genocide by modern day capitalism is much stronger than before, because the mechanisms that force the dissolution meant of leadership, norms, and ideologies are actualized in the logistics infrastructure and level of integration present. Going back to Africa, this exact idea holds true, because you can see the escalation of interethnic conflict, degradation of political leadership and values, and rapid increases in urban migration not seen in Eurasia and South America explicitly due to the increased integration different peoples have as the road, railway, and information networks expand and intertwine with each other.
Marx and Engels were right about capitalism’s tendency to force the proletariat towards urban clusters, but to say that such movement was explicitly tied to exploitation alone fails to consider the many other contributions that could lead to such a phenomenon.
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>>1943150
indeed. uyghas will seriously see an obvious sign of the formation of a truly global proletariat and will think its actually communist to oppose it, holy fuck!!!!!!

>>1943040
>Whether it’s war, famines, jobs, extradition, etc. in some way or another, people tend to move towards centralized areas when their leaders are shot and their interpersonal connections and values are destroyed.
do you have any source for that?

>>1943150
>>1943158
>communism is when everybody wears the same clothes and lives in the same gray concrete building
guess mccarthy was right all along!

>>1943195
Communism won't be born from an historical vaccuum.
Capitalist cultural homogenization is progressive in the marxist sense, for when all particularims will have melted, the only struggle left will be class struggle.

>>1943209
the second international called, they want their blind belief in progress back

>>1943228
Because sacralizing national, ethnic or even sexual identities worked so well for socialists in the last decades lol



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what happened to the whole meme about Gen Z turning out to be far right? It doesn't seem like it turned out that way. Maybe zoomers who were already right wing became more right wing than they already had, or more "radicalized" somehow in that they are more willing to ditch bog standard liberal democracy in favor of some sort of unitary theocratic republic (i.e. Iran but Christian)? Or are just more pissed off in general? But thats not really a change.
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>what happened to the whole meme about Gen Z turning out to be far right?
It was wrong and dumb. The end.
P.S. some advice: you didn't need confirmation back when it first came up if you possessed critical thinking.

people need to realize that around the world, the younger generation realized that blaming bad stuff and failings on political figures is fucking insufferable, even if it's just language and you don't mean it. hence, they also realize that saying "Stalin did this" and "Mao did that" is bad and lying. they are starting to realize that there is no such thing as "leader" or "king". and as i observe they are especially loud or only exclusively say "the party" or "the government" or stuff like that when they are talking about communist and AES country. the current and newer generation is getting closer and closer to say "Communist country decided on things very collectively" out loud irl. note that when i say "observation", it's not fbi.gov or text in social medias. by "observation" mean irl and public voice and video recordings. but mosty irl.

BEWARE!!!!,
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED RADLIBS
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED JOURNOS
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED ANTICOMS
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED SCHOOLS
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED MEDIA

>what happened to the whole meme about Gen Z turning out to be far right?
It turned out to be all a meme.

>Gen Zyk

The closest thing is the alienated 'neurodivergent' (aspie) teen boys who get recruited through /pol/ and incel forums. And they're obviously not going to be popular, strong or otherwise effective. More of an embarrassment to the movement than the 'aryan' prison gangs who deal meth and prostitutes.
Since the /leftypol/ Rightoid Cringe thread vanished, linking to the /farcism/ thread:
https://nukechan.net/social/thread/611.html

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>>1943071
Seriously feels like half the Gen Z nazis turn out to be not just wimps, but diagnosed autists (which hitler would have put in the ovens) or crossdressers and furries.
>thread
Neat. I'll try and post a few there tomorrow.

>what happened
Reality.
The material conditions of life under capitalism precludes a rightward shift like "Generation Zyklon" predicted. That's because it would require some investment into the system, a belief that it fundamentally is good and should be "restored" to its prior glory. But Gen Z didn't experience a decline from the peak. They grew up while the decline was already happening. Contrast boomers and (to a lesser degree) Gen X who did live through the decline and have grown more reactionary. They are past their prime though so they're not in a position to be the footsoldiers of the new fascism.

Media and demographic changes play into this as well, making it harder for these younger generations to be intolerant (being exposed to much more diversity), but that's more secondary to feeling fundamentally alienated from the system.



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On 6 September 1966, 48-year-old Greek-Mozambican communist Dimitri Tsafendas stabbed to death South African Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd, the architect of Apartheid.

Tsafendas was a veteran of the Greek Civil War fighting on the communist side. He was also an activist for Mozambique's independence from Portugal.

After being tortured, Tsafendas was declared insane and sent to a psychiatric hospital. Despite living to see the fall of Apartheid, Nelson Mandela's new government did not release him. He died in custody in 1999.
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Mandela was never about anything more than bringing neoliberalism to SA

>>1942573
Damn they let him rot in custody too

He was moved to a psychiatric hospital (prison lite) and stopped being tortured in '94. Assassinations were frowned upon by the mainstream anti-apartheid movement, though they dabbled with light terrorism for a bit. Plus he was a rogue actor when he did it.




 

Why did Plekhanov and Ilyenkov worship Spinoza so much? They completely misunderstood his philosophy and tried to shoehorn him into an understanding of materialism and only vulgarize it as a result.
>Georgi Plekhanov, the creator of the term "dialectical materialism," also designated Marxism as "dynamized Spinozism"
how fucking embarassing! Spinoza's philosophy was not in finding a logic for the real physical universe, but of some theoretical world, the imagined concrete. Marx's materialism is the complete opposite and rises from Hegel, dealing with relation between substances and their process of change from contradiction. Not Spinoza's substance that derives more from Plato. We don't arrive at the essence of things by some abstract substance, we arrive at it by understanding all it relates with and how its existence influences them. Where did they learn their Spinoza? A shitty Russian translation?

lol wat do u even mean hegel is dynamized spinoza thats accurate

>the pseud who coined the bullshit term "dialectical materialism" was into philosophy
not surprising at all



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