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I am far right, but I think discourse with the far left is (atleast anonymously) a good idea. Now, our Goals are in the end of the day opposite to one another, due to Metaphysical Priors, but I think we can come to some common understanding or certain issues. Specifically, the topic of Immigration. Why does the left support the Bourzoua Practise of Letting in Millions upon Millions of low wage workers/ welfare parasites or brain drain for the intrest of Capitalist Elites? Capitalists are clearly the one supporting and pushing this, in the general ideological basis of neoliberalism. Even so called "fascists" as called by the left like Trump and Musk are in favour of so called "Elite Human Capital" immigration, taking jobs from the White Working Class. Frankly there is no rational reason for the left to support this, except from an irrational antiwhite hatred. If the left wants any political future, they should support remigration.(/pol/ tourism thread)
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>>2570754
>so Im guessing they were trying to make you mad, which succeeded
No I agree we should nuke India, I'm part of the 2/3rd, sorry its not shitposting we just can't do it yet.

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stop bumping this CIAuyghur thread uyghas

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>>2570346
>Why does the left support the Bourzoua Practise of Letting in Millions upon Millions of low wage workers/ welfare parasites or brain drain for the intrest of Capitalist Elites?
every time you come here and ask this question, my answer is the same: immigrants aren't parasites. Capital seeks workers the cheapest labor market. Capital does this by outsourcing or using immigrants. Notice I say capital, because capital is a system. Even if individual bourgeoisie do not individually conspire to bring about this outcome, it emerges as a property of the global economy. The oppressed nations under imperialism have the cheapest labor markets. People flee imperialism seeking higher wages. The people who flee imperialism seeking higher wages end up getting jobs in the imperialist countries which pay them higher wages than they would make at home. They send part of these wages home as remittances to their family. Many who are against them might do the same thing in their shoes. Brain drain functions the same way, but with professionals and managers instead of workers. This is the actual underlying incentive structure of capital. This will continue to happen until rates of wages roughly equalize across the globe, which will not happen under capitalism. In the mean time reactionaries carry out campaigns to scapegoat immigrants for fleeing cheap labor markets. They call the migrants parasites even though capital creates these outcomes. They fuel these campaigns with racism and militarism. They actually start new imperialist wars which destroy infrastructure and means of production in target countries, reversing the level of development in these countries and lowering their wage rates further. Then they turn to the camera and say "wow, look at these third world brownoid shitholes!" with zero self awareness. Coups, sanctions, embargoes, invasions, bombing campaigns, and many other strategies are used to bring about this state of affairs. Reactionaries also lobby for a walled world. They want commodities to be more free to move than people. They want strong immigration controls. They want to pull a large portion of the adult male population away from productive activity and make them pigs, troops, and border guards who keep conditions shitty for both foreign and domestic workers, but especially the foreign workers, who get depPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>I am far right, I think we can come to some common understanding
okay
>Specifically, the topic of Immigration
oh so you want to split the workers instead of being a disciplined fighter

>>2570560
I thought white extinction was a conspiracy theory



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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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>>2563966
>which makes our Mexican nazis extra funny
I call them naztecs

I get that not turning them into martyrs is probably the smartest thing to do, but man, I really wish Sheinbaum went full Red Terror on these fashoids.
#HangChriscucksFromLampostsAgain

>>2563898
Yamato Damashit stories are garbage idealism.

>>2570436
>genz
>mostly elderly
Huh



 

Any comrades from Utah here?

How do we fix this beyond fucked up state?

The LDS church runs everything here. Nearly every single little detail of the state’s culture is dictated by Mormonism. Mormon temples are the largest buildings in every city and town. Mormon bookstores are more numerous than most other stores, and old school soda shops are more numerous than cafes (Mormons prohibit coffee and tea but allow caffeinated soda for some reason). Multiple buildings, streets, and businesses are named after Mormon things (e.g. “Cumorrah Avenue”). Multi-level marketing companies are everywhere and sponsor things like stadiums (MLM companies are littered with Mormon moms).

The LDS church is basically run like a massive corporation. They are very good at missionizing and making new converts, plus Mormons tend to get married young and have bucketloads of kids. The average Mormon family has between 4-7 children. The point is, the LDS church is highly reactionary and rules over Utah with an iron fist, yet there is almost no internal resistance to it. “Utah” basically is the LDS church. And that’s not even mentioning the entire settler-colonial history of the church either, the mass slaughter of the indigenous that Mormons participated in to create the state of Utah and such.

With that said, how do we deal with this state’s politics if we are socialists living in it? There’s no way someone like AOC or Mamdani or any DSA candidate could ever win here. If there was ever a socialist candidate, they’d either have to ensure the Utah public that they’re a “good Mormon” (which would mean throwing away their principles and participating in a reactionary, settler-colonial theology) or seek to dismantle Utah culture outright by going against the grip of the LDS church, which would be political suicide.

I’m sorry, but I wish this fucking state didn’t exist. Trying to organize anything leftist here feels like a lost cause.
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>>2570299
Thoughts on cedar City and Ogden?

>>2570299
What do you think the solution is?

>>2570365
i've been to cedar and ogden but i don't know a lot; just that cedar is very much centered around its stageplay industry and ogden i've only really passed through going to Eden. Both of them seem a lot more normal than the rest of the state but that might just be from an outside perspective. Cedar seems a little bit like Moab in the sense that there are more laid back and accepting people than elsewhere.

There's also places in the middle of nowhere like nephi or mona that seem to have the same kind of evangelical, dying-town culture as the other midwest states.

>>2570432
Hell if i know lmao, it seems pretty far out of our control unless the church fucks up and disillusions people somehow

>>2570524
So, defeatism?



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Hundreads of years of theory all seem like just useless distractions, if we want to end the capitalist mode of production we simply have to kill everyone who supports it regardless of class by growing an army that's big and strong enough to take them on. Just us versus them, if you're not with us you're against us. Isn't this literally just what has to be done?
Of course there might be people who say they are against capitalism yet not support the movement but they should be killed as well, and if they say they support the movement but don't follow the rules of the movement they should be killed too. Seems to me that cheka had it right all along. Hundreads of years wasted on dialectics and philosophy nonsense.
>BUT HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST NUKES?
Just start the rebellion by taking over the nuke sites first and take control. Get the nuclear briefcases and shit first. Prioritize taking over the nuclear sites of a country with nukes in one coordinated go by super special trained bodies of armed men.

Who's with me?
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>>2565994
ok sure, but do you know how hard it is to '[grow] an army that's big and strong enough to take them on'? you don't raise armies out of thin air, without the support of a state-like entity to facilitate logistics and production of necessary equipment.

with this in mind, you have basically just re-stated the most general goals of communist theory. the theory that 'seems like just useless distractions' to you are in fact mostly about the details of how to do exactly what you describe most effectively.

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>>2565994
wow youre a fucking genius man

True.
>BUT HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST NUKES?
Porkies will never use WMDs because it'll greatly hurt their ability to juice the profits out of this planet. They won't let the chuds launch the nukes either. Even if we don't take control of nukes in the first few days or weeks, they still won't fly.

>>2565994
I think the best way to beat capitalism is to just make more money than the capitalists and then buy capitalism itself



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>>2570428
these pathetic drunks are killing 1,000 nato-armed ukrainians every day and consistently advancing? wow…nato kinda sucks

>>2570088
Has he gotten a new job?

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Will Zelensky buckle or will trump TACO as he always does.

Gonna have to bake. I can do it.




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The crackdown on immigration in the west has the potential to be a good thing for revolutionary and anti-imperialist states, because it will prevent both brain drain and loss of labor forces. The downside is that these countries won't be able to expel the reactionary elements that would otherwise go to the west, especially the US.
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>>2564787
Being Aryan is quite cheap then. 20$ hair dye.

>>2564786
What exactly is this image meant to incite? STEM is overwhelmingly male. What if it was a bunch of whitoids and one brown female?

Yes it will. Brain drain is a real problem. Deport those opportunists back.

>>2566136
Gas the Jews only

I take it back its too mean



 

Leftypol could really learn something from Athenian democracy and the story of Aristides.
The fact Athenian democracy worked so well is what saved them numerous times especially from the advances of the Persian forces.
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>>2569934
Surprisingly good analysis he seems like a sincere man.

>>2555251
That makes you a liability to everyone around you, and they’re perfectly justified in treating you like a pariah

>>2569919
>waifu larper

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>>2569934
truth nuke, burgers don't know their own history

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>>2570222
Milk to cows…
These cows don't want my milk. 🐮 🥛👈
They already have tons of milk – they're cows! 🐄
& if these leftists were going to entertain rightwing ideology, they'd be nazi chuds or fascists over monarchy, which also has us outgunned and outclassed in the modern age
at best monarchy has is religiosity which is a corporatism of its own and satiates it well with Christ so they too don't feel compelled and if they do want a king here on earth the fascist-style corporatism and leader principle covers it which frankly has way more appeal to the burgeoning number of secular people and so as well the religious who admire their popularity and want to get in on that



 

We need Third-Worldist scroll, like the Deng Scroll. I have already found some Lenin quotes which explicitly debunk imperialist apologists when they say things like, "Third-Worldism isn't Communism," or "Making imperialists' lives materially worse isn't Communism." This project could very well include citations from all communists, including Marx, Engels, Mao, Deng, etc.

<the industrial workers cannot accomplish their epoch-making mission of emancipating mankind from the yoke of capital and from wars if they confine themselves to their narrow craft, or trade interests, and smugly restrict themselves to attaining an improvement in their own conditions, which may sometimes be tolerable in the petty-bourgeois sense. This is exactly what happens to the “labour aristocracy” of many advanced countries, who constitute the core of the so-called socialist parties of the Second International; they are actually the bitter enemies and betrayers of socialism, petty-bourgeois chauvinists and agents of the bourgeoisie within the working-class movement.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/x01.htm
<To tell the workers in the handful of rich countries where life is easier, thanks to imperialist pillage, that they must be afraid of 'too great' impoverishment, is counter-revolutionary. It is the reverse that they should be told. The labour aristocracy that is afraid of sacrifices, afraid of 'too great' impoverishment during the revolutionary struggle, cannot belong to the Party. Otherwise, the dictatorship is impossible, especially in West-European countries.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
<The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch08.htm
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>>2569886
nearly all communists are doing this all the time and once you see it, you'll be damned by that knowledge forever.
it's all a big joke.

>>2569886
THE EUROID BUTCHER OF NATIONS FEAR THE ATOMIC PEOPLE'S WAR

I supoort it. Then the retards can just post a pdf instead of shitting up threads

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>>2569210
>Mao
>Third-worldist




 

Why do these barriers to working abroad/citizen even exist between friendly developed countries especially given the obvious incoming population decline i.e. shrinking tax base? Any sensible country would actively entice migrants from countries with cultures compatible with their own.



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Hello Leftypol! I am currently writing an encyclopedia about the internet and yesterday i created a page about this very site. However, It is a sentence stub and i can not think of any information to add here. Can you guys help out? Thanks!
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this thread slid a bit so im bumping it

Hey anon, welcome! Here's /leftypol/'s own page on our own Wiki site. https://leftypedia.miraheze.org/wiki//leftypol/
You'll probably need to sample instead of copy as this focuses on the history of the board itself, /leftypol/, rather than the current websites it resides on (leftypol.org and leftychan.net).

https://leftypedia.miraheze.org/wiki//leftypol/

>>2569945
thank you anon!

* oops, didn't realize I'd pasted the link twice



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