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Obviously they're criminals and looting our countries, but they've always struck me as competent nonetheless due to maintaining hegemony and working towards a grander scheme. However, I'm coming to the realization that the current batch is not just looting us, but that they're genuinely incompetent. Was it Kissinger's death that turned the tide? Were they simply duped by the techies? What in the fuck happened?
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>oligarchs
back to /pol/ you go

>>2538189
When were they competent? Trump's personality formed during the peak of American dominance, most people who are in power right now are the same. These people are also quite sheltered and distant from society. There are many very basic things about modern society and culture they don't know. Trump may not even know how to use a web browser, that's how old he is. He is a member of the ruling class from the very best glory days of capitalism, he was active in political circles for many years before he got elected. British ruling class still gets maids to jack them off in bed like the aristocracy did in the 1700s. That's why figures like Bismarck are so legendary and historically important.

>>2539107
hes still competent since he can basically convince half the country to do anything. not to mention stephen miller and all the ppl behind him are doing all his policy decisions

>>2538933
Maybe /po/ (from dvach)?

>>2539142
the ones that got to leftypol from that grim place probably wouldn't complain about the "ineffectiveness" of their pork variety



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There's a division between:
1. The "based right", who supposedly fight for the white race and the cuckservative Christian society that da joos are trying to destroy Adolf Schicklgruber, Trump and Jesus are jews btw.
2. The «soy left», who support BLM, LGBT, feminism, and so on.

If you look objectively and remove all the propaganda and stereotypes, you can understand that the right is about licking the boyar's boot and persecuting those who are not part of their agenda.
The left, after all, is about some kind of utopia. The left supports the rights of the marginalized, such as gays and trans people, who don't fit into the right's agenda. Any negro will be smarter than a nazi unter, so racism is pointless and there's no need to support it (I think an artist from Africa and a European one will be closer to each other than an artist from Europe and a European office worker). The stereotypical feminist agenda of equal rights and responsibilities is much better than the t0rahditional family (even if this agenda is not reality). It's better than living in a world where women have no rights and are forced to stay at home, while men are forced to work and fight.

In general, if you see MSM coverage of a movement being discredited, take an objective look. Perhaps this movement is being deliberately created to discredit a good goals.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

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>>2539027
>Any negro will be smarter than a nazi unter(mensch)
HEY I WROTE THAT LONG AGO HERE. Did you memorize my post?

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>>2539028
> HEY I WROTE THAT LONG AGO HERE. Did you memorize my post?
No, it’s just great minds think alike

Bump

Trump is so old his grandpa was born in 1869. Jesus Christ.

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TRVTH



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In the two years since ChatGPT and DeepSeek were released, we have observed some significant quantitative leaps.

The use of commercial AI has allowed many people to bring their fantasies to reality through the use of "AI Slop." This has created a divide in the artistic sphere by sparking debates over AI art and whether it should be considered art.

AI has made accessing knowledge more convenient, as it can scan the internet to provide the information you desire. However, it has also made people less knowledgeable, as they become too lazy to do the research themselves.

There has also been an ongoing project to implement AI into the military-industrial complex, which has created Project Maven (or similar). This can only be described as a mechanized executioner.

Not to mention that AI systems can be of great importance to future socialist experiments, as we know that the quantitative leaps produced by AI can create qualitative changes.

In other words, this thread is about discussing the importance of AI in the future socialist experiment and what your opinion on it is.
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>>2538598
>The perfect way to eliminate the problem of excess labor, which is the fundamental problem that the modern ruling classes have.
and who's going to maintain their giant automated systems after we're gone? Them? doubt.

>>2538535
>what your opinion on it is
My opinion is that we do not need a weekly iteration of an 'AI' thread that in the end only is about LLM and people discussing a topic they have no technical expertise to discuss whatsoever.

>>2538535
>The use of commercial AI has allowed many people to bring their fantasies to reality through the use of "AI Slop."
It didn't "allow" anything, it just made the "what if what I make isn't goad enough" hurdle weirder by giving an instant option that will leave them unsatisfied, but then further paralyzed to take any other route of implementation because the AI can emulates things people consider their own beginner art to lack: rendering, backgrounds, greebles, etc… so the effort barrier is out of whack when it's an option.
>This has created a divide in the artistic sphere by sparking debates over AI art and whether it should be considered art.
On twitter, maybe. No one really debates that anymore. Art is just a form of communication, and AI is just a very vauge and indirect one that doesn't actually need a sender, and thus raises issues on the internet–a massive communication machine–that senderless and thus incommunicative communication is better at search engine optimization, and thus building the internet around search engines and supermassive, unmoderatable platforms that curate on the same principal as search engines was a mistake and we'll need to adapt to using an internet that doesn't have either.
>AI has made accessing knowledge more convenient
If you have to do the same research to vet it anyway then it's just a pointless step. All it did was make "it came to me in a dream" socially accepatble among twitterites.
>Not to mention that AI systems can be of great importance to future socialist experiments, as we know that the quantitative leaps produced by AI can create qualitative changes.
This paragraph does not convey information.

That said, machine learning has always been useful and will continue to be, there's a reason the USSR dabbled in it. AI, thoughever, is a marketing term and there's no place for commercial advertisement under socialism. So no, AI won't survive the bubble.

Since machine learning can be used for weather forecasting stuff (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08252-9) maybe it could be useful for brain-to-computer interface Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

if anything LLMs have become an obstacle to AI development, also we have an AI thread on tech. polite sage

>>2538932
>there's a reason the USSR dabbled in it
If all the libs promoting 'AI' did any research and realized how much of the groundwork for ML was done by commies, they'd dismiss this shit immediatly lol.

>Since machine learning can be used for weather forecasting stuff

Especially forecasting with ML is kinda iffy, imho, and most papers that conclude with 'our model outperforms tested method XYZ' seem not to hold what they promise when put into production and faced by new, unseen data.



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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-raid-chicago-apartment

>she saw children, some of whom weren’t even wearing clothes, dragged out of the building by ICE agents and then placed into U-Haul vans.


Creepy to see this happening with real ICE agents after the posts about impersonating ICE agents.

this shit is too fucked up even for me. brutal blackpill. demons are ruling the world and theres nothing we can do

I will never understand the moral panic around pedophilia.

Any news?

>>2530185
>torfag



 

They're just like the incels but SO MUCH WORSE! How could the right ever have achieved such an abomination?

https://unicornriot.ninja/2024/sextortion-coms-inside-a-vile-child-exploitation-cult-run-by-nazi-linked-teens/

Holy fuck, these people are vile.
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Its all GLADIO

>>2519646
The article's got a bit about Riley Williams, the Capitol rioter:
>In fact, several of the photos from the FBI Statement of Facts in her case are from a Cvlt-related Discord server where she boasted about stealing the laptop among other things. She also shared two separate videos of herself saying “Heil Hitler” as well as photos of her fansigning BERSERKR across her chest.
Could be getting her tits out professionally and earning some money from it. Notoriety only makes punters more thirsty. She could be like an evil version of Louise Rosealma.

>>2538082
>be me
>make a post about Riley last thing before going to sleep
>dream I am Riley
>in hospital
>trying to donate blood
>wake up at 4AM
>going to post about Riley again
>then go back to sleep
>and be me this time
>and fuck Riley in her hospital bed

>

>>2519646
I can fix the chick in the middle. I'll read Marx to her while we're both snuggling in bed and she'll get. Then she'll be my Krupskaya to my Lenin and we'll both lead the revolution.

>>2538373
I think it might take more than that, anon.
But she's definitely
>fixable



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Right now the Trump administration is signaling its intentions to begin criminalizing the left, opening investigations, and moving to eliminate even the most non-threatening anarchist book clubs. They're speaking openly about designating "antifa" as a terrorist organization. Will anyone be surprised if within a couple years the PSL, the DSA, and your local larp group are also designated as criminal organizations? Will anyone in Europe or anywhere controlled by American influence be surprised if right wing governments there adopt the same methods they do in the US?

How can serious left wing organizers under these conditions continue to engage in building above ground parties engaged in feckless reformism under these conditions? Yes, officer, here is our formal centralized list of dues paying members and their legal names and credit card numbers. We have a right to free speech, officer. We're a legally registered nonprofit organization, officer. You'll be hearing from my lawyer, officer. Does this seem like a strategy prepared for the future to you?

People need to shift their organizing underground in advance and we should have done it yesterday. We need to build hardened cell networks and we need to take encryption and countersurveillance seriously. These cell networks need to be seriously prepared for prolonged asymmetric conflict against the most sophisticated surveillance state on Earth. If a crackdown happens, even if you aren't violent, it would be infinitely preferable to be in a hardened underground group that survives instead of sitting out in the open larping that this time we can make social democracy work or that our book club will amount to anything.

Right now, Trump is just a senile figurehead for a cabal of guys like Stephen Miller who are gearing up for Palantir fascism and race war. Anyone who could stand in their way has proven themselves to be too cucked to attempt anything. The worse the economy gets, the more they're going to start lashing out at the low hanging fruit.

>inb4 burger/europoor proles are incapable of revolution so why bother


If you do nothing there's a good chance that they're going to kill you personally, retard. The burgerreich endseig will not be fun to live through. If you don't plan on moving to China somehow you should take this seriously.
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How would you actually convince anyone to join a underground group though
Its already hard enough to get them to read a book

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>>2537260
I can join your underground cell :)

>>2537070
1. all that's required is the ability to have conversations with coworkers, not necessarily on the clock. This is not a high bar
2. if we all lose our jobs and there's a huge surplus population then I'd advise going door to door and seeing who else is in the same boat and organizing the unemployed, and immediately engaging in taxation or some form of banditry to keep yourself fed and free

>>2537260
Only people seriously committed to liberation would join. Don't expect it to be like a mass above-ground org where the goal is to make anyone join and then educate them. Educate and vet them first in low stakes front groups that can build their resolve and knowledge of the scope of injustice and what it takes to win. Secondary reasons to join could be a sense of agency in a chaotic world, camaraderie, and the safety net provided by mutual aid - all the things missing in society for the average person.

>>2521599
i'm still in awe at how stupid this take is, even two weeks after it was dropped.

>>2537260
if someone is too ADHD to read give them youtube videos
also people dont need to be super theorybrained to get involved in revolutionary politics

keep it simple
the system doesnt work we need a new system we can organize whats necessary now and form a group based on that interest of making dual power its easy to see its necessity



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The point isn't to teach racists, but to end the system that needs racism. As long as people compete to survive, they'll keep inventing reasons to hate. Racism will survive every round of moral re-education until the social order that breeds it is gone.

>>2537946
fine but that implies the superstructure will instantly disappear which isnt true, considering religion, racism and superstitions are super structural memes which have long outlived their usefulness yet persist.

>>2537950
>instantly
It naturally follows if competition becomes outdated along with all the baggage from the capitalist MOP. Nobody said anything about some vague "instantly".

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>>2537946
Education plays a part in social development.

>screenshot of an uncredited blockquote
otherwise good take OP



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>In 1848, Schopenhauer witnessed violent upheaval in Frankfurt after General Hans Adolf Erdmann von Auerswald and Prince Felix Lichnowsky were murdered. He became worried for his own safety and property. […] He gave a friendly welcome to Austrian soldiers who wanted to shoot revolutionaries from his window and as they were leaving he gave one of the officers his opera glasses to help him monitor rebels. The rebellion passed without any loss to Schopenhauer and he later praised Alfred I, Prince of Windisch-Grätz, for restoring order. He even modified his will, leaving a large part of his property to a Prussian fund that helped soldiers who became invalids while fighting rebellion in 1848 or the families of soldiers who died in battle.
Ah, so he was actively reactionary, as his class position, and his actions to defend his class position reveal.
>As Young Hegelians were advocating change and progress, Schopenhauer claimed that misery is natural for humans and that, even if some utopian society were established, people would still fight each other out of boredom, or would starve due to overpopulation.
Ohh… it's just… umm…. humans are gonna be miserable no matter what…. please don't make me lose my property…. I'm so miserable with all this property…. Prussian soldiers…. please defend my property from the rabble…. who are definitely just as miserable in poverty as I am in wealth… oh heavens…. I … ohh…..
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>>2537299
the OP is directly making fun of schopenhauer on the question of class struggle. are you confused? there are 20-30 usapol threads in the catalog at any given moment but this offends you and makes you drag out the "you just want a safe space" thought terminating cliche from 2015?

>>2537296
if it's not about "debunking" his philosophy then what is the point of this thread?

>>2537528
there's tons of pointless threads you haven't gone out of your way to whine about. get to work.

>>2537008
Many autism experts will say he was autistic since he had many common autistic traits.

>autism expert
lmao



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Within the social body of capitalism, in which classes function as an unconscious sub-organism, the interest of any particular class, in the final instance, overrides the will of its individual representatives. This scientific truth, however, is often concealed behind the mask of two seemingly opposing, yet equally pernicious, illusions.

The first of these is the illusion of heroic individualism, the act of rebellious individual will, whose most stubborn defenders are often anarchists. No matter how fervently they have fought against oppression, their insistence on the absolute freedom of the individual and their rejection of centralized party struggle is historically an expression of the despair and incapacity of the petty bourgeoisie (as well as already defunct or nearly defunct classes like the impoverished nobility, aristocracy, etc.) to comprehend the power of collective action. Their "act of rebellion," however honest in its intent, ultimately remains a gesture which, by rejecting discipline and organization, objectively serves to maintain the status quo – because it is always easier for the bourgeois class to deal with isolated rebels than with a firmly organized working class.

The second, opposing illusion, is the illusion of classless populism, employed today by social democrats, liberals, and others who believe the current social order can be preserved, or who are simply reformists. Upon closer inspection, their talk of "the unity of the people," "justice for all," and "dialogue" is mere rhetoric that conceals the inevitability of class struggle. By appealing to "everyone," they are in fact nurturing the bourgeoisie's interest in social peace and the reduction of tensions, while the structural basis of exploitation remains untouched. Their policy does not aim to overcome capitalism, but to make it more tolerable, and thereby preserve it.

From this unavoidable conflict arises one clear and unpleasant conclusion for those who strive for an "independent" stance: in a society divided into classes, there is no possibility for a neutral or supra-class politics. The attempt to adopt such a position signifies nothing but the unconscious service to the interests of one of the warring sides.

Therefore, the only truly conscious politics for the working class is neither mere syndicalist bargaining, nor the populist demand for reforms within the system, nor is it disorganized violence in the form of terrorism and heroic expPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2537554
The world has never been literate, Marx and Engels suck so who cares

Become the true and only communist

>>2537570
Loneliness is worse for you than drinking and smoking

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>>2537280
>socialism, fascism, or fascism
?



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I have been a Fascist (Metaxist Specifically) for the past 4 Years. I believe all the standard fascist talking points. But the more and more time passes, the more and more I feel like i am disillusoned with my beliefs. This started in the beggining of this year. I feel like more and more that my Christian Orthodox beliefs, that i aquired as a based trad greek nationalist faith, is in direct conflict with my third postionist beliefs which have their bases in Platonism and the Abolition of the Self to a mega organism. I started not believin in the Holocoast, but more and more I think that its possible. David Irving didn't deny it, and I am rn reading about the Posen Speeches.I am thinking of commiting a genocide to a different type of ethnic group atleast once a day, so If its possible for me, i think it would also be possible for him. I really feel like a monster… But at the same time, I feel like I am stuck between a rock and a tough place. Leftoids hate my Religion, my Nation, my Race, my Family and want to exterminate all of them. You are also idiots who allign themselves with third worldist Religious Fundamentalists and Ethnonationalists to own the White Christians11!!!! I truly hope God can help me choose the right path. Maybe I can just ignore politics and become a Christian Normie, but I feel like I need to fight for something. So yea, My Question for you is, why should I become a leftist when the left hates my Religion and People and will actively Allign with foreign religious and ethnic enemies to destroy me… If you convience me I will become a ChristSoc (there is a good party here, although its tiny it has an old history and i met them at a confrence, very good people)
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>>2538037

Honeslty Worshipping Nords or Nikkers is idiotic. Obviously we are closer to the Nords though. Only a European Unity can save our people. But you are a jew sooo. Amazing that there are still cryptojews doing this stuff. I thought it was a greek nationalist myth.

>>2537482
Every single one of these worthless pieces of shit need to be deported. Absolutely unacceptable.

>>2538629
hehehe you will all come to us

nordmommy pls respond I need your help finding a gf…

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>>2537357
You can't be an anarchist, a marxist, a third positionist or a liberal for you can only be Christian



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