/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

What is your favorite thread that used to be on /leftypol/?

No happenings, like election threads or le pol face. We're talking about generals, like the WebM dump threads.

So, in addition to the contingent of people who think that Native Americans don’t exist anymore and were all genocided (which ironically is US government propaganda to justify its continued settler-colonial occupation of indigenous land), there also seems to be a contingent of people who thinks that all people in the US regardless of race, *even Native Americans*, are irredeemable and unrevolutionary and should even be killed, such as the posts I’ve circled in the two screenshots I attached. While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself), and that even manyBlack people in the US still contribute to US imperialism, how on earth could you have this little intellectual curiosity and empathy for the plight of indigenous peoples in the so-called US. I mean come on, thousands of completely unique languages foodways, ways of music and art, and beautiful people were and are continuing to be destroyed for the sake of building the most horrible and destructive empire on the history of earth, and instead of having empathy for those whose lands it is built on, you say you want to continue said evil empire’s genocide all while claiming to oppose said evil empire, just because a small comprador class of Native Americans aligns with US imperialism. I mean even if you don’t care about the people themselves, which you should, shouldn’t you care for the sake of intellectualism about thousands of distinct languages and cultures?

Also, something weird I’ve been noticing is that people say that Hawaii, Guam, and Puerto Rico should be freed from the US, but they never say that native peoples with in the lower 48 states and Alaska should be freed, which just naturalizes the US empire’s occupation of indigenous land.

Idk, it just seems like from online discourse both on and off of /leftypol/, that 95+ percent of leftists outside of the US think that all Native Americans are extinct, or think that they’re horrible and unrevolutionary. NonAmericanBros, especially GlobalSouthBros, please tell me you don’t think this. Please tell me you have love and solidarity for your fellow oppressed people, while also being able to criticize them while they are reactionary in a healthy way without writing them off as a whole. I’m not trying to smear every Non-USian leftist, and I know it’s probably just me being emotionallyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The majority of leftypol users are not using dialectial materialism, but mechanical materialism. How did this happen and how do we fix it?
I've been using this website for a while and pretty much whenever I tell people to propagandize, agitate, educate and whatnot I get told "that's useless, you're a liberal minded retard" and when I ask what we should do then I get two answers
>thing nobody in this website will do, like making a guerrilla group or firebombing a walmart or some other very drastic shit that screams main character fantasies
>doing nothing. Just read more books.
And the reason every single time is vulgar mechanical materialism disguised as dialectics. Discuss.

Trump is gemmy doe
>farmers rise up to overthrow fauci
>opens up the coal mines again
>uses a red hat
>has a lower class martyr that got the presidential medal of freedom
>modern Russia is Christian
Seems like winning to me

Hey guys, a couple of days ago, while reading an article, I remembered about a Marx quote where he talks about the use of methods and methodologies in Science by comparing them to a ray of light and a piece of glass (I think? I can't quite remember correctly, something like that anyway). In the quote he says something along the lines of "If knowledge is a ray of light and a method is a piece of glass then by utilising a method we are merely observing the reflection of the ray of light, not the ray of light itself" (I think). The problem is I read this quote so long ago I've forgotten it's exact phrasing.

I've been searching for it for days and I haven't been able to find it, I figured it would be been in the German Ideology, or maybe Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, or the Philosophical Manuscripts but none of those have anything similar.

To be honest I don't even know if this quote is actually Marx's or if it was Engels or Hegel saying it, that's how bad my memory is.

If any of you remember such a quote and/or know in which text it was written please respond to this thread it would be of great help. Even if you vaguely remember it and haven't checked the text in a while.

Thanks in advance to all of you

US pursuing third oil tanker near Venezuela, officials say
The pre-dawn operation comes days after Trump announced a “blockade” of all sanctioned oil tankers coming in and out of the South American country and follows the Dec. 10 seizure by American forces of an oil tanker off Venezuela’s coast. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem confirmed that the U.S. Coast Guard with help from the Defense Department stopped the oil tanker that was last docked in Venezuela. She also posted on social media an unclassified video of a U.S helicopter landing personnel on a vessel called Centuries.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-intercepts-another-vessel-near-venezuela-officials-say-2025-12-21/

UN Experts Warn of “Dangerous Setback” in Peru Over Law Limiting Trials for Crimes Against Humanity
United Nations human rights experts expressed their “deep concern” on Friday over the ruling by Peru’s Constitutional Court upholding Law 32107, which limits the prosecution of crimes against humanity committed before 2002. They described the measure as a “dangerous setback” in compliance with international obligations.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/un-experts-warn-of-dangerous-setback-in-peru-over-law-limiting-trials-for-crimes-against-humanity/

Brazil's Lula, Argentina's Milei clash over Venezuela at Mercosur summit
Sparring comments from Lula and Milei came at a meeting of the South American bloc, at which a future trade deal with the European Union was on the agenda. But the tensions over Venezuela – once a member of Mercosur but suspended in 2016 – exploded in the open, with Lula warning that armed conflict could spark a "humanitarian catastrophe," and Milei praising Trump's sabre-rattling approach to the crisis.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/latin-america/brazils-lula-argentinas-milei-clash-over-venezuela-at-mercosur-summit.phtml
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What is leftypol's opinion on PCTE (Communist Party of the Workers of Spain)? They're a big Spanish communist political party that has connections with the KKE (Greek Communist Party). I'm thinking of joining because the other option is Frente Obrero (Workers Front) who are pretty much nazis. I'm asking here because the LATAM board is dead

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I’m honestly curious to know what exactly makes the PMC (university professors, doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, artists, those types of people) adhere to the belief system they do. Namely, the psychology behind what’s often termed as “petit-bourgeois radicalism.”

I recently read through two of Caleb Maupin’s books (The American Years of Lead and the one on Trotsky and the Neocons). Maupin asserts that intellectual elites (PMC) are heavily into salon culture and edgy things that have aristocratic connotations. For instance, intellectual elites (PMC) are the ones who hold an overly-romantic view of revolution and romanticize terrorism and political violence. They’re the ones that conjure up images of a big apocalyptic revolution similar to the Christian rapture whereby every little aspect of the existing society is destroyed. He also heavily emphasized that the PMC hates the genuine working/class, because they see them as a threat to their power, so they deliberately manipulate working-class movements in order to offset and eventually dissolve them. Plus, they love sexual promiscuity and use “leftism” in order to promote it.

Last night, I watched a video on Sublation Media between Doug Alain and Chris Cutrone. Cutrone made the point that the PMC romanticize terrorism, mass destruction involving killing and raping, and the “noble death” because the PMC are “gangsters.” Not gangsters the way the ultra-rich capitalists are, but gangsters nonetheless.

My understanding is, intellectual elites love these things like violence and terror for the exact same reason they love modern “art” like Jackson Pollock and jazz and rap “music”: it’s all deeply irrational. They reject historical progress, favour the lumpen and those on the margins of society over the genuine proletariat, and promote destruction because they hate rationality. All of the things they promote as “leftism” are actually deeply aristocratic values: it’s the aristocracy that loves violence, sexual indulgence and a rejection of logic and linear time. I see it like this: intellectual elites, being Nietzscheans at heart, hate rationality and linear progress because they see those things as boxes that limit their ability to indulge, but also the fact that they already have their privileged positions and don’t need a proletarian revolution to have their basic needs met. In fact, a proletarian revolution would mean they lose their privileges and end up working in the fields.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.