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>need to develop productive forces for communism to happen
>this fucks up the earth and nature

how do we reconcile this as gommunists? whenever I see people calling for protecting the amazon there is an argument that the people cutting down the trees are just trying to make a living.
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>>2556671
Just because you can destroy nature doesn't mean you should.

>>2556688
Nice dubs, but you didn't read
<we use it *whether we mean to or not*
<The debate is over what we must destroy, not if we will, because creation requires destruction (this is what alteration *is*)

Even if you decide to be as low impact as possible and your solution is "we should build nests in the trees like birds to be as in tune with nature as possible", you're missing the point that you still have to pick which wood to build the friggin' treehouses/nests out of. Destruction is inevitable. Pick your poison and the degree of it you find acceptable, because the poison is in the dose.

>>2556696
You're being pedantic, obviously you need to consume things to live to some extent but some people ITT are acting like retards saying we should destroy nature.

>>2556671
>invoking a Creator at all, in any capacity, ever
>>>>>right
>ants building anthills is just a different mode of expression of the same behavior and has no meaningful difference from strip mining an entire mountain
>I'm a pantheist
>The debate is over what we must destroy, not if we will,
You are an enemy not only of the people but of life itself

>>2556697
>>2556702
Destruction of nature is inevitable. Fuck anthills, volcanos and hurricanes destroy too. And stuff grows in the space left behind. The question of destruction is of how we live in harmony through our destruction.
>the enemy of life itself
All I can say is "buh?".
Photosynthesis destroys photons to create glucose. This is like, basic physics. Transmutation is destruction, destruction is transmutation. It *is* life itself.

Again, the debate is over how we exploit resources, not if we do. It's inevitable. It is nature.

Most of us don't own strip mining corporations or even work them. You're strawmanning.



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What do you think about German far-left political party named Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance – Reason and Justice aka BSW?
Are they true communist redpilled comrades? Do they have any future? Will they replace Die Linke and would/will you vote for that party if were/are a German?
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>>2556179
Poor landlords, ziggers and petty bourgeoise lost their most promising social conservative

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>>2556670
Hapoily for ziggas the german nazis are picking up the slack

>checks [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSW_group_(Bundestag))
>Absence from the speech of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
>Volodymyr Zelenskyy
His name is Volodymyr? Volodymyr Zelenskyy vs. Vladimir Putin? No wonder people only say their last names.

>>2556678
yes, his name is Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy, abbreviated to VOZ

>>2556669
>kek if you ever voted for that party you might be retarded, no exceptions. it's a joke and a cesspool. i wish the mauermörder propaganda was true, but sadly it's not that. it's just a zionist performance art project with little to no merit.
why



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How are we going to achieve socialism after the climate apocalypse because we are not going to fix the climate what should leftists do when people get tired of barbarism

>>2550237
Pic is Fake story. >>2531538

No shit i thought it was funny

COP30 attendees navigate flooded corridors during heavy rainfall at climate conference venue | AFP

heh

reed desert



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Stalinoids have a tendency for projecting their great man idealism and assume Marxist critique of their cult is based on vilifying Stalin the man. However we reject their mythology of the one man (Khrushchev) singlehandedly dismantling an entire mode of production.

The Russian revolution lost because it failed to become international. Stalin had little to no role to play in that. In fact our only contention with Stalin is much less dramatic, it's simply his opportunist decision to not recognize the defeat of the revolution and instead to parade its corpse in order to maintain yet another capitalist state. His and others desecration of the revolution set the workers movement decades back.
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>>2538339
but the reds won in russia. and then they had multiparty elections in the 90s and they lose. also is nicaragua communist now?

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>>2527596
>historically progressive

"Always with the historical dogmatism!"

UP

>>2527596
There isn't a feudal society left on Earth.

>>2556487
Learn to read illiterate western faggot



 

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>>2556198
It doesn't have to be a grand plan. It's just them reacting to changing conditions and throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. They have to balance throwing red meat to the "brown foreigners took our jobs" crowd and the "give me a government-assigned barefoot pregnant tradwife handcuffed to stove" crowd

>>2556300
We'll see.

>>2556271
then someone puts a bullet in his neck and all the other teenagers will scream like full-estrogenized babies.

>>2556100
>>2555826
>it's the teachers fault
>it's the parents fault
no systemic explanation here, guys? Capitalism doesn't afford time for parents to be good parents. Capitalism overworks and underpays teachers while increasing class sizes, even when they are unionized

new thread >>2556292



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It's old news that fascism is on the rise but I can't be the only one that is suspecting there's a deliberate push by social media companies at this point? Twitter might be obvious but I'm also seeing more and more things on places like youtube getting tons of views that wouldn't have been allowed to stay up a couple years ago, picrel for example. Instagram reels being full of nazi content and its comment sections being bombarded with racism is something that's become infamous but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
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It's all part of big tech's push to replace governments, no doubt they prefer the shock content to be fascist rather than communist, but the big take away is supposed to be
>my my, I didn't realise *this* was such a common feeling, the libertarians are right that we're overly censored to have missed this
and thus big tech leaders capitalise on their own dog whistle to now claim historic censorship was always against their personal values, the gubbermint forced them to do it, they feel just AWFUL to have participated in the cover up of oh so many social issues and now they're fighting back and letting the masses speak.

They're angling to replace the state with their own products.

>>2556082
>Theyre using the algorithm to spread both far right and far left
And of course, far left as in ᴉuᴉlossnW and Ziggers.

>>2555799
Silicon Valley is full of right-libertarians which are just Nazis who smoke weed.
They've been like this for decades, only difference is that now they don't have to hide it anymore. There's a deliberate push for normalization. They are gambling that Trump is establishing new norms and there will never be any blowback.

>>2555882
They're not scared of Trump, they agree with him uncritically in most respects. Only thing they don't like is the tariffs. For the Silicon Valley/private equity vampires JD Vance would be the perfect president because he would do everything Trump is doing but dump the tariffs. Tariffs are a uniquely Trump quirk and not a core element of the larger right-wing project, he's been obsessed with them for his entire life.

AI moderation is fundamentally retarded but is still programmed to keep shit like this down given enough time and reports. Flightfromsyracuse's anti-Indian video was taken down in a week because everyone in Mumbai saw it and took it down in anger, I think the poop festival vlog did too. The problem is that YouTube AI mods are retards that flag simple basic words but still cannot take down propaganda in time before it reaches 100k views.
>Instagram reels being full of nazi content and its comment sections being bombarded with racism is something that's become infamous but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
Didn't Intagram reels have a full day of gore or something?
This is just what happens when new untested "AI code" is added in. I wouldn't worry about it.

Dear mods please add Super Saging to /leftypol/ already threads like these don't require the catalog space. This barely even belongs on /isg/



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Most MSM, AI LLM trained on shit, resources online point to the fake narrative that ukraine (the borderlands, formerly wild lands or dikoe pole) has some kind of lineage tied to Kievan Rus and that it was not entirely a fabrication by the USSR. It is a fake nation that speaks a russian dialect and fabricated its own history and identity. Give me books to prove this right because it is the truth, give me books and resources, english russian whatever,(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2548271
>but would support Palestinian nationalism.
No they wouldn't, communists oppose nationalism, but the palestinian nationalism content of struggling against Israeli oppression would be.

>>2514455
Once the bulk of Russia's regular army is neutralized in Ukraine the PLA will storm Siberia with little to no opposition

Max Stirner talked about the fabrication of all national identities

What do you mean by fabrication? Leninist nationalist theory say rural folk moves to urban centers and becomes majority, primary culture. So, ukrainian speaking peasants outnumbered russian speaking minority. But this is how things were going in the beginning of 20th century, what happened next was everybody adopting metropolian culture which happen to be russian culture, so by the end of 20th century ukraine has mostly russian population with some rednecks speaking russo-ukrainian surzhyk and western ukrainian minority mostly speaking ukrainian like they historically always did

why defend Russian imperialism?



 

To achieve an international Socialist rule, we must ensure a full dedication to the party and it's objectives. Personal relationships that leech funds, attention, and dedication to the party must be destroyed by the individual internally to achieve an unwavering dedication to the proletariat. We've seen countless times in organizations that sexuality have led to the destruction of the individuals in power, Haz, Hasan, Maupin, MikefromPA, their downfall and degeneration? Falling from Marxist ideals in favor of dedication to sexual conquest. Our relationships to others should solely be dedicated to advancing the interests of the international proletariat, a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the return and advancement of the Comintern.
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>>2538795
how am I a reactionary

The weak form works, i.e, being within bourgeois traditionalist respectability with the party form and class consciousness being the sole deviation.

Sex, drugs, and rock and roll are merely bread (soma) and circuses for the 20th and 21st centuries.

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>>2538736
> Leftypol mods are trccns confirmed. Kill yourselves

Why do communism if I can't get free love from everybody man

Orgies = Sex of the proletariat

>>2537587
>Our relationships to others should solely be dedicated to advancing the interests of the international proletariat
amazing social policy. i am certain this will go well



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Zohran Mamdani and his acolytes are the vanguard of the mom&pop petite-bourgeoisie. Ethnically Indian, Ugandan born, NYC raised: the archetype of the small-business rootless cosmopolitan. He does not oppose big corporations with a view of nationalising them under a worker-led state. He opposes big corporations because they drive his beloved small food truck and small peddlers out of business. Zohran hates Wall Street not because he wants a Proletarian New York, but because he wants an Oriental Bazaar New York. He loves the mass of decentralised spice traders, snake oil merchants, and empanada fryers. Zohran loves American Imperialism, he just wants the petite-bourgeoisie to have a larger share of the imperial spoils, instead of getting wiped out by the haute-bourgeoisie. Bernie killed Rosa, AOC dismembered her corpse, Zohran will distribute the body parts to his small merchant friends.
The only hope for communists in this election was Comrade Curtis Sliwa. But he was never going to survive the assault of the imperial-liberal youth of NYC. The American proletariat barely exists. Its brave last soldiers are heroically resisting, but they have already lost and soon will be exterminated.
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>>2554883
Zohran/Cuomo is just an inter-imperialist squabble between the rural and urban factions of capital. As revolutionary socialists, we should fight for revolutionary defeatism and fight for rural capitalists in the cities and the urban capitalists in the country.

>>2555354
>Why would small business owners care about free buses, state run grocery stores, or affordable childcare?
Right. You know I think it's revealing something about capitalists when the bodega guild endorsed him, they saw the writing on the wall and figured it was in their interest to get on his good side. Bill Ackman was spending millions calling Mamdani a communist and how he's going to destroy New York City, then on a dime was like "call me plz" after he won.

>>2555490
Notice how the succdem cucks begin by conceding to the porky narrative, and only posit a contrary narrative in the final sentence, after everyone has stopped reading, either out of smug satisfaction, or anger at betrayal.

>>2555354
going "it's not far enough you need to push for more" doesn't work when the concessions deradicalize people and lull them back to sleep for another 40-60 years of complacency when we don't have time. also in many respects it is not only that social democracy "isn't going far enough" it's that it goes in the opposite direction of the development Leninist theory sees as the requirement. Like pointed out before, breaking up state capitalist monopoly and resetting competition is a step backward in the development of the productive forces, while seizing and nationalizing state capitalist monopoly is a step forward. So not only does social democracy deradicalize the proletariat, project the petty bourgeoisie from becoming proletarianized, and postpones revolution, but it reverses the economic developments required by revolution, at least from the Leninist perspective of seizing and nationalizing state capitalist monopoly rather than breaking it up.

>>2555563
>call me and tell me what to do, so I can do the opposite. Please give me all your plans, so I can sabotage you.
that would be very dumb.



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Daily reminder that if you aren't:
>reading theory
>organizing your workplace
>lifting weights
>practicing at a gun range
You aren't a communist. You're just a LARPer.
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>lifting weights
get a job and do calethenics

>>2555666
>You aren't a communist.
Good.

>>2555666
>practicing at a gun range
I do this therefore I get extra communist points to my stats which means other anons on leftypol have to defer to me as an authority figure and overall big shot. Yep that's communism… but I want everyone to know when you play around with real firearms it's not all fun and games… it's serious!!!!

>>2555667
Don't you have a gun range there or something




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