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>That's a right-wing proposal which says essentially, there is no United States. It would make everybody in America poorer. You're doing away with the concept of a nation state. I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. If you believe in a nation state, you have an obligation to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open border policy. Bring in all kinds of people who work for 2 or 3 dollars and hour, it'll be great for them. I don't believe in that.
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>socdem is a reactionary
shocking

>>2286464
open-borders is an anti-communist stance.
Only liberals and libertarians are for open-borders.

>>2286596
if fascism is an extension of liberalism, then why are they against open borders? (not trying to be a smartass just genuinely curious)

>>2286705
When liberalism is in danger they adopt all sorts of emergency measures to divert attention away from class rule. LARPing as Nationalists is one of those measures.

>when capitalists have a state, it's a bourgeois dictatorship
<when workers have a state, it's a proletarian dictatorship

>when capitalists fund the police it's to brutalize poor people, plant drugs on them, and send them to prison to be slaves for corporations

<when socialists fund the police it's to suppress counterrevolution, jail reactionaries, and make them work for the workers in a reeducation/labor camp

>when capitalists allow immigration it's to source desperate workers as human capital from disadvantaged war-torn nations that have had their means of production destroyed and their natural resources stolen, so they can be further exploited

<when socialists allow immigration it's to allow workers of the world to flee reactionaries and seek amnesty in a socialist land

>when capitalist countries have strong borders it's to prevent people from fleeing reactionaries, to vet incoming people for ideological loyalty, and to "racial purity"

<when socialist countries have strong borders it's to prevent brain drain to the imperial core, and to prevent capitalist spies and counterrevolutionaries from entering

>when capitalist countries have an intelligence agency, it's to coup socialist countries

<when socialist countries have an intelligence agency, it's to prevent capitalist coups

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New York University is waging Zionist terror on its student body.

A recent NYU grad had his diploma withheld by the school for denouncing the genocide in Palestine at the hands of Isn'treal and America during his graduation speech. Think about it. How can a university flush a student's years of hard work and hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition money down the toilet simply for expressing sympathy with Palestine? The student will also receive disciplinary action along with suspension of his diploma. Why?

Last year at the start of the fall semester, NYU put new policies into place with equated anti-Zionism with antisemitism. It states:
>“Consistent with recent guidance from OCR and agreements that it has entered with other schools, conduct that otherwise triggers our non-discrimination and anti-harassment policy cannot be shielded by using ‘Zionist’ as a substitute or codeword for Jew or Israeli. Excluding Zionists from an open event, calling for the death of Zionists, applying a ‘no Zionist’ litmus test for participation in any NYU activity, is not allowed."

Comrades need to do something about this university. It is beyond complicit in genocide at this point. Boycotts, protests, anything.
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>>2272781
Tisch School of the Arts is basically a yeshiva for art hoes. It needs a mass student occupation.

Of course it's Jew York University lmao
Also, why should I give a fuck about some rich nepo baby's career prospects?

>>2272023
>boycott NYU
How do we do that?

>petit-bourgeois on petit-bourgeois conflict
I don't give a shit!!!!!!!!!

>>2286395
This. Who gives a shit about NYU students? Burn the fucking unis to the ground (preferably with the rich kid students and CIA faculty inside).



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Engels created Marxism by theoretical errors he himself admitted to overemphasizing. Lenin fully embraced and expanded those mistakes, Stalin took them to an even more extreme level, and Mao just followed Stalin. None of them deserve any praise, each step only deepened the disaster.

It was Engels who first built a kind of cult around Marx, and through his writings particularly in Anti-Dühring, he laid the groundwork for what would later be called "dialectical materialism." As J.A. Jordan rightly observes, Engels conflated three strands of thought: Marx's naturalism (which is essentially a rejection of Hegel's idealism, Feuerbach's materialism, and both French and British materialism and positivism), French positivism, and the so-called laws of Hegelian dialectics.

Engels is correct in pointing out that Marx did not arrive at his critique of capitalism by assuming that Hegel's dialectical laws are somehow embedded in nature, history, or the process of investigation. Rather, Marx first analysed the real workings of capitalism and only then used Hegelian terminology to express some aspects of that analysis. Engels however somewhat misunderstood this. He mistakenly believed that because Marx used Hegelian categories to describe his findings, the Hegelian laws themselves universally apply to all processes of analysis and investigation. This led him to concoct those infamous three laws: the law of the unity and conflict of opposites, the law of the passage of quantitative changes into qualitative changes, and the law of the negation of the negation.

In the preface to Anti-Dühring, Engels even goes so far as to suggest that natural scientists would do well to employ Hegelian logic in order to better grasp their own disciplines, an absurd proposition, ofc. Plekhanov, who can be seen as a precursor to Lenin, picked up on these ideas and developed them further. Kautsky followed suit. Lenin adopted this framework wholesale and deepened it, and it seems it was Plekhanov and Lenin who began calling this bundle of ideas "dialectical materialism."

The problem with Lenin's version is that both he and Plekhanov completely sidelined Marx's naturalism, which, tbf, Engels at least recognised and instead leaned heavily on Hegelian formalism, mixed with a crude version of French positivism and a variety of representative realism like Engels. The result is a kind of mechanical materialism and naive realism that owes more to the mechanical matPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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okay so im confused now.
this is is you:
>>2282381
>>2282325
correct?
is this also you?
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>>2276488
mfw all the retarded MLs talking about le dialectic magic are just proudhonist brainlets

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>>2277937
you know who else thinks the same thing?

>>2286269
got any examples



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Starving Palestinians storm US aid facility as distribution operation breaks down
Journalists in the besiged Gaza Strip said hungry and beleagured residents forced to stand outside a facility holding aid rushed inside because of delays conducting detailed security checks on recepients. According to Israeli army sources cited by Israeli media, Americans affiliated with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation had to be rescued once they lost control of the facility. The Israeli military denied firing on the crowds but gunfire was heard at the scene, possibly as a result of warning shots fired by American mercenaries securing the facility.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hunger-stronger-awareness-palestinians-received-limited-ghf-aid-despite-doubts

Israel believes Hamas has 40,000 fighters in Gaza, the same number as before the October 7, 2023 attacks
According to the same sources, the Palestinian militia still retains a significant part of its military structure. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz claimed Hamas still has an arsenal of thousands of short-range rockets and a large part of its tunnel network — which is believed to have stretched more than 500 kilometers (310 miles) beneath the Strip before the start of the war — remains intact. According to the aforementioned reports, the Islamists maintain an “extensive” network of tunnels operating beneath Gaza City and the southern city of Khan Younis, as well as under some refugee camps.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-05-27/israel-believes-hamas-has-40000-fighters-in-gaza-the-same-number-as-before-the-october-7-2023-attacks.html
https://archive.ph/kfdZO

Turkey’s Erdogan appoints legal team to draft new constitution, sparking fears of extended rule
Erdogan, who has led Turkey as president since 2014 and was prime minister for more than a decade before that, has advocated for a new constitution arguing that the current one, which was drafted followingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Trump team pauses new student visa interviews as it weighs expanding social media vetting
“Effective immediately, in preparation for an expansion of required social media screening and vetting, consular sections should not add any additional student or exchange visitor (F, M, and J) visa appointment capacity until further guidance is issued septel, which we anticipate in the coming days,” the cable states. (“Septel” is State Department shorthand for “separate telegram.”)
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/27/trump-team-orders-stop-to-new-student-visa-interviews-as-it-weighs-expanding-social-media-vetting-00370501
https://archive.ph/lpFIq

Trump administration moves to cut all remaining federal contracts with Harvard
U.S. President Donald Trump's administration plans to terminate the federal government's remaining contracts with Harvard University, according to a letter set to be sent to federal agencies on Tuesday.The letter, from the U.S. General Services Administration, directs all federal agencies to review and potentially terminate or reallocate their contracts with Harvard, which an official valued at about $100 million.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-moves-cut-all-remaining-federal-contracts-with-harvard-2025-05-27/

Healthcare workers speak out about NewYork-Presbyterian layoffs
Earlier this month, NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital announced that it would cut 2 percent of its workforce, about 1,000 people, because of “current macroeconomic realities and anticipated challenges ahead.” The medical center moved quickly to lay workers off, close essential services and, with the assistance of the New York State Nurses Association (NYSNA) and 1199SEIU, keep workers divided and in the dark about what was happening.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/05/27/uivw-m27.html
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No, Let’s Not Build a Dubai on the Adriatic
On Europe’s Balkan periphery, there is constant dispute over what space this region truly belongs to. It’s neither quite the West nor truly the East — let alone part of the Global South. In times of war, economic recession, and globalization, the Balkans are rarely mentioned: a “desert of post-socialism” left off the map. A steady flow of neocolonial projects continues in the Balkans, often cast as an “unfinished capitalist transition.” The most recent example: an agreement signed between Montenegro and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). This deal grants extraordinary privileges to the investor, including the ability to bypass national legislations and to basically pick a piece of land they can privatize. The tragicomedy of parliamentary democracy reached new heights when Montenegro’s government approved the act via legislators’ WhatsApp group. The message was sent by Prime Minister Milojko Spajić, a crypto evangelist and ex–Goldman Sachs analyst. After that, Spajić triggered the urgent procedure in the Assembly to ratify the two agreements with the UAE: one on economic cooperation and the other on cooperation in tourism and real estate development. The Assembly passed them, after a debate that ended after 1 a.m. Following a public outcry due to blatant corruption, the appropriation of land, and the potential devastating environmental impact, President Jakov Milatović returned the controversial agreement to the Assembly unsigned, meaning a second vote is imminent. The Agreement on Cooperation in Tourism and Real Estate Development is seen as especially problematic. It states that any contracts and further agreements with UAE investors are exempted from both countries’ legislation on public procurement and tendering. To put it simply: a UAE investor can choose any mountain, beach, or the land near any river or lake, and together with the Montenegrin government do whatever they want with it — even if that means expropriation, devastation, or the creation of a fancy apartheid-style resort for the oligarchy.
https://jacobin.com/2025/05/montenegro-uae-privatization-long-beach

Britain: “Back on the world stage” or walking the tightrope?
In the past month, diplomatic history has been made – in case you didn’t notice – with Britain secPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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What are the consequences for Marxist theory thus far that Deng got it right and has led China on the trajectory to not only be the next superpower but also keep China on a steady path of establishing socialism when the time is right? How have you adjusted your Marxist understanding since this fact became undeniable?

>dengism
you mean capitalism?

>>2285213
This is a quality post, have an upvote good sir

>>2285313
Wrong. Dengism is socialism, not capitalism.

>>2285213
>keep China on a steady path of establishing socialism when the time is right?
Wrong. In China, the socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed, the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established.



 

Recently I've been exeperimenting with the website translation feature in the Chrome browser. Let me tell you this: Translation has become so good, that you can read even chinese, vietnamese and japanese texts without any problem. It blows my mind, what kind of articles you find on chinese news sites. This one is especially interesting: https://user.guancha.cn/wap/content?id=1237501&s=fwzxhfbt

We are entering a new era of information sharing. Now information is no longer imprisoned in language barriers.

If you find other interesting sites, share them!

>Why was he wary of privilege throughout his life?
https://user.guancha.cn/wap/content?id=1433235&s=fwzxhfbt

>Why I think industrial civilization is a bad civilization

https://user.guancha.cn/wap/content?id=1407470&s=fwzxhfbt



 

AGI by 2027. What are the implications for the world and the future of mankind and communism?

>Everyone is now talking about AI, but few have the faintest glimmer of what is about to hit them. Nvidia analysts still think 2024 might be close to the peak. Mainstream pundits are stuck on the willful blindness of “it’s just predicting the next word”. They see only hype and business-as-usual; at most they entertain another internet-scale technological change.


>Before long, the world will wake up. But right now, there are perhaps a few hundred people, most of them in San Francisco and the AI labs, that have situational awareness. Through whatever peculiar forces of fate, I have found myself amongst them. A few years ago, these people were derided as crazy—but they trusted the trendlines, which allowed them to correctly predict the AI advances of the past few years. Whether these people are also right about the next few years remains to be seen. But these are very smart people—the smartest people I have ever met—and they are the ones building this technology. Perhaps they will be an odd footnote in history, or perhaps they will go down in history like Szilard and Oppenheimer and Teller. If they are seeing the future even close to correctly, we are in for a wild ride.


>Let me tell you what we see.


<I. From GPT-4 to AGI: Counting the OOMs

>AGI by 2027 is strikingly plausible. GPT-2 to GPT-4 took us from ~preschooler to ~smart high-schooler abilities in 4 years. Tracing trendlines in compute (~0.5 orders of magnitude or OOMs/year), algorithmic efficiencies (~0.5 OOMs/year), and “unhobbling” gains (from chatbot to agent), we should expect another preschooler-to-high-schooler-sized qualitative jump by 2027.

<II. From AGI to Superintelligence: the Intelligence Explosion

>AI progress won’t stop at human-level. Hundreds of millions of AGIs could automate AI research, compressing a decade of algorithmic progress (5+ OOMs) into ≤1 year. We would rapidly go from human-level to vastly superhuman AI systems. The power—and the peril—of superintelligence would be dramatic.
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>>2284685
>le nft
Hating AI doesnt make you special in any way.

>>2284807
>no it's possible, it's just not gonna happen until they abandon neural networks and try to actually create an intelligence, which is unlikely under the present state of things
There is a lot more that goes into the AI products out there besides LLM. They're always using and adding more techniques to get better results.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-symbolic_AI
https://neurosymbolic.asu.edu/

>>2284877
this is still not exactly ideal but it's at least a step in the right direction

>>2284696
Your art will be replaced by AI too liberal

Moved to >>>/tech/29957.



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Kim Jong-un is the best communist leader right now better than xi and better than Miguel and I can go on and on The reason why I say North Korea is the truest thing to communism because unlike China, they do not have capitalistic places like Dairy Queen McDonald’s, Burger King North Korea is actually self-reliant and stands up against the global elite and the Kim dynasty has brought people of North Korea out of poverty that’s what I have to say
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>>2284642
>t. american exceptionalist (but woke) who thinks the world resolves around his shithole

>>2284644
The good news is the US matters less and less every day

>>2284619
one hundred percent

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>>2284619
many more than in many other places, comparatively speaking to the rights US workers have.
with all the plundering the US and the EU do, flipping burgers should buy you a buggatti, if you had the same rights those workers have.
you could pretend is hilarious, but I am dead serious. but hey, don't take my words for granted, and look at the GDP PC.

I like Best Korea too but goddamn you are fucking retarded, OP



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
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Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the pharaoh of proxy wars, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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>>2284662
>Guyver
>Tachikoma
<Mecha
Begone casual.

>>2284656
That's not the average. You're getting information from a filter bubble of a minority of Petite-bourgeoisie idiots that post on reddit. Most people don't bother posting on reddit. The majority of Americans don't live like this.

Stop making the mistake in assuming the minority of people that post on the internet is any indicator of the actual majority of people.

>>2284656
>muh hexbear
>muh gamer statoins
>muh discourse
shut the fuck up or go back to /isg/ nobody fucking cares.

>>2284753
if it were the 1990s and someone expressed skepticism about the NATO narrative surrounding Yugoslavia, and specifically the Serbs, you'd call them "Yiggers" as a lazy thought terminating cliche. The playbook from the west is remarkably similar to that conflict. But the discourse of the online morons is a whole additional layer of reactionary filth.

>>2283302
>1984 was LE well written though
What's LE?

>>2283380
>that zionists are almost universally Ashkenazi supremacists.
Bro, what little support there is in Israel to end this genocide comes from Ashkenazi bleeding hearts (I don't count the left because it hardly even exists). Mizrahi and Sephardites are filled with bloodlust.



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Is the fundamental basis of reality mathematics? If yes what does that say about materialism? If not then why can seemingly everything be explained with mathematics?
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>is the fundamental basis of reality [sphere of human activity invented by humans to observe and measure limited aspects of reality]
no. idealist thread.

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>>2283802
>there is no point evoking something no one can prove even exists
To insist that only physical things exist necessarily evokes these things, that was a problem with physicalism. Materialism skips that by not evoking it at all, not even in subtraction. Only things that matter are worth consideration.

>>2283153
Realities will contain within them a mathematics, but because of Gödel's incompleteness theorems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems it remains simply a map of the territory. You OP are committing the fallacy of confusing the map with the territory

>>2283153
>mode of presentation = reality
This is as retarded as the 'dialectical materialism' mouthbreathers.

Math shapes and maintains physics, and physics shapes and maintains math, with math being generally dominant.



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