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who cares, communists will just organize around some other name for a while (iskra, rabocheye dyelo, zarya etc)

Their form of communism was imported by the soviet, it wans't a genuine grassroot movement, more like a top down change that many didn't like it or accepted that well, no wonder some people still salty about it

>we have to ban the 300 strong party that's done literally zero illegal actions because communidum scary
poland is more authoritarian than the ruskis lol

>>2582491
>poland is more authoritarian than the ruskis lol
truth nuke
>>2582442
puke nuke



 

Doesn't the fact that CHINA has multiple STOCK exchanges, prove that its CAPITALIST? How do le elder scroll ones explain this? Even old turn of the century imperial germany was closer to socialism than modern day China.
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>>2582904
>and it isn't a state of affairs
A state of affairs to be established. Communism in practice already manifests today as the proletarian association and struggle, as dormant as it is.

>>2582932
There's almost no difference between Mao and Deng, lol. Mao already favored the peasantry and national bourgeoisie, what Deng did is just the inevitable conclusion.

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>>2582034
>I'm not an American or Chinese
How iz dat possible?!?!

>>2582904
The real movement

>>2582504
>because god forbid subhuman orientals do capitalism better than the herrenvolk
Isn't that the problem? Why would a socialist not living in China celebrate Chinese capitalism?



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>OMG IM SOOOOO EDGY AND COOL IM NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS IM DIFFRENT
>im a socialist that means i own the heckin libs
>im also SOOOO anti israel
>*no video on gaza*
>HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN CHARLIE KIRKKK'S DEATH YOUR A MONSTER THAT MAN HAD A HECKIN FAMILY
how is this dumb whore still even relevant(/isg/)
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>claim to be socialist
>never defend AES wage labor and Islamic theocracy
curious

>>2583756
like it or not she is every one of her videos gets at least a million views in the first day

>>2584188
That doesn't make her relevant that makes her a micro eceleb

>>2583719
Her being a retarded pick-me is entirely contingent on her being a woman. She should specifically be called sexist insults to reiterate that she doesn't get away with being a retarded cunt just because she belongs to some minority group. And yes the same goes for black people, uncle toms should absolutely be called coons or the n-word, at least on forums like these

>>2584188
Millions of views look like a lot until you realize just how many people there are. Making the obviously untrue assumptions that literally all of her viewers are from the US, real, and have watched each video once (youtube treats repeat views as separate, with some limitations in place to make it so that you can't refresh the page to cheat your viewcount to a trillion), her most viewed video would have been seen by less than 3% of the population. That's nothing; definitely not enough to move the needle politically.



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LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER AND TELL ME THAT HE ISNT WHITE!!! Race obviously is a social construct but despite the fact that Persians have white skin in America they are “Brown” because they are Muslim, the same goes for Kurds, Turks, Azerbaijanis, and Pashtuns. It’s not just Muslims either but it also goes for Spanish speakers, I remember there was an episode of the Simpsons where they were making fun of Fidel Castro and they didn’t color his skin yellow.
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>>2583559
he is a sayyed like millions of iranians, yes but i think that's rather meaningless. he must be like less than 1% arab by this generation.
>Could be the case of aristocracy being different shades lighter like with the Spanish monarchy.
probably because in iran and the rest of the middle east there's still a lot of manual jobs that requite you to be outside in the sun whereas khamenei is an old man that likely spends almost all his time indoors.

he used to be more tanned when he was younger.

>>2583568
Anglos and Germans are complete mutts compared to Nordics. Its not even a fair fight. But gingers are their own peculiar mutation and they are very common in Nordic countries too.

I'm white as the driven snow and crackers think I'm muslim because I have a big nose and a beard.

>>2583591
sounds like you see yourself differently than other perceive you
skill issue

>>2583591
Like OP said this skin colour based race categorization doesnt make any sense outside colonial slave societies like USA.



 

Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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>>2579848
colour me surprise

>>2579848
Batista 2.0

>>2579848
I have not been paying attention to this shit at all.
What the fuck do you mean they voted for the narco party.

>>2583145
Basically the party is known for being the standard "christian traditionalist" neoliberal bullshit party that has leader who litterally were envolved in massive drug trafficking operations and are crittically with the narcos. They were massively involved in a coup that toppled down the centre-left goverment by the party mentioned in the thread by occupying with "private militias". I have honduran friends and what they pretty much told me about is that these private militias are more powerful and big than the goverment itself and are obviously owned by the oligarchs of the country.

>>2583145
America is threatening to pull all aid if they vote for the socialists so they're voting for the narcs
Also very obvious corruption.



 

>burgerland
>bourgeoisville located outside of a major city
>cant fucking breathe, feeling like i'm about to pass out
>call ambulance
>takes at least 6 minutes to arrive
>arrive at hospital
>put in wheelchair and taken to waiting area
>there's a fucking line
>wait 20 minutes
>get triaged, EKG, wait another 10 minutes
>get a room, blood drawn, wait some more
>see the doctor for like 5 minutes, describe symptoms
>at least an hour later get breathing drug
>get discharged shortly after, can breathe a bit better but still feel like shit and nothing shows up on the bare minimum tests they do
>"how are you getting home?"
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I've been having to take my 78 year old grandmother to her doctors appointments lately because she's senile, and everyone else in the family fucked off a long time ago. She's not racist or anything weird like that, just nobody else is willing to take care of her. About a month ago she fell and traumatized her arthritic hand. We thought it was broken but the x rays showed nothing. Turns out her tendons just became massively swolen from the fall, causing immobility in her hand. Now she needs physical therapy but we have to wait another month for her insurance to approve it. Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it. She doesn't know how to use a smartphone or an email so I also have to do sign up to use my email for everything involving her. It's been a total nightmare. I'm actually leaving out some other key details to avoid saying too much about myself. What this experience has made me realize is I don't want to burden my kids with taking care of me when I get old and my wife and I have both privately discussed finding humane ways to commit suicide if it ever comes to that.

>>2582512
> Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it
also it was physical paperwork. like 10 pages, a total nightmare, and it's her writing hand she injured, and also some of the pages were basically trying to get us to sign up for random bullshit having nothing to do with the matter at hand, so I had to read carefully. Forgot to mention that part.

>>2582252
>muh i'd die if i don't have a drink GIB ME DRINK RIGHT NOOOOW

Alcoholics actually believe this lol

>>2583329
I'm not alcoholic, but I have lived with alcoholics, who I find very annoying by the way, but what anon said about withdrawl is true, not in all cases, but in very severe cases of alcoholism.

When someone who is physically dependent on alcohol suddenly stops drinking, their nervous system, which was previously kept suppressed by alcohol, rebounds into a hyper‑excited state. This can lead to, seizures, delirium tremens (DTs), severe confusion, agitation, fever, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, electrolyte disturbances, cardiovascular collapse. Delirium tremens has a mortality rate of approximately 5–15% without treatment, but this drops significantly with proper medical care.

Now imagine if you had a alcohol withdrawl seizure while driving to work in busy traffic on the freeway, or while standing on a ladder at work. It's very easy to see how this can be lethal by proxy (accidents resulting) but cardiovascular collapse is also lethal. If you don't believe me, ask the doctor next time you go. They'll back me up on this.

>>2583329
t. person that gets headaches when they miss their coffee



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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2568483
Undervalued currency means a currency that isn't allowed to be traded freely on the market, and upon which a downward pressure is exerted by the govt that issues the currency.

>>2568491
No infinite value engines exist in economics, just like no perpetual engines exist in physics. "Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine. And we know for a fact that's bullshit, Marx went over examples of such machines in the first chapter of Kapital

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>>2563763
>one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD!
In the Manifest Marx and Engels are explicit: Equal liability of all to work. 100% employment is explicit socialist policy. Like your image says, the US and UK freaked out about the ITO charter for a reason.

>>2568676
>"Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine
I'm not sure I follow.

>>2568483
>They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China.
once again, you're acting like that's a mutually exclusive explanation. America outsourced BECAUSE they got outcompeted, and America's reserve currency strategy dictated letting this problem get worse because they followed an import based strategy rather than an export based strategy. Past declining empires like the British and Dutch made similar mistakes. The reserve currency thing isn't a meme. These problems all feed into each other. Imperial core capitalists also become seekers of interest and rent, rather than profit, through the process of financialization, which is another reason the industrial base in the imperial core declines. You win power by being more productive, but then once you're at the top you refuse to stay productive, and instead rest on your imperialist laurels, seeking rent and interest, outsourcing production, letting up-and-coming nations outcompete you, and letting money printer go Brrrr because you think you can coup and sanction everyone to death forever.



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2576720
all porkies are class conscious lol

>>2576294 (me)
Continuing with my boring exploration.

I know the hydraulic procedure does not have any prices, but could we do a scalar evaluation of the resources after they got assigned with this procedure, just on the basis of the assignment pattern? (You know, for the accountants.) We could simply do this: For a resource, we look at which pseudo-firm received some of it and just add all these pseudo-firms' RAP scores together. It seems to me that, ''within the constraints that we neither look at excess stocks nor at the request forms nor anything else besides the assignment pattern, this is actually the most fitting measure we can do. If this measure feels weird, it's really due to the method the measure was made for.

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>>2578921
if they were truly class conscious they wouldn't be their own gravediggers

>>2583286
anon this anlysis fails to realize that porkie doesnt care about what happens after they die. A lot of the porkie will die before collapse happens so who gives a shit about lel future

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>>2583306
if they can't or don't want to perpetuate class society after they die then they aren't really class conscious, they're just individualists, nihilists, and egoists. For the bourgeoisie to be conscious as a class they would have to want society to continue after they die.

But the analysis in the picture DOESEtake this into account. They hoard more wealth than they can spend in one life time. A lot of them could retire and never run out of money but they choose to continue attending board meetings and doing interviews and shit. They dress up and go places and act important and try to force regulations in their favor. They try to extend their copyrights more than a century. They try to use life extension tech. Elon Musk has a ton of kids. They really seem to think the Earth will survive their bullshit and they want their progeny to inherit their wealth,, on the one hand, but they continue to act in ways which guarantee their downfall, and/or the destruction of the earth, on the other hand. They want to live forever through life extension tech, on the one hand, but they don't create a political situation that tolerates their perpetual existence, on the other hand. They absolutely, as a class, seem to care about the future, but are very bad at understanding that they have outlived their historical usefulness as a class.



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>>2582959
$25 from blackwater has been deposited into your account

>>2582905
How is that relevant in any shape or form, when one has to look at the kind of relationship that dominates the entire economy
>>2582903
Report racist MAGAtards to ICE

>>2582962
do you really think blackwater is against janet mills? why would they be?

>>2582906
>That doesn't mean it's socialist
so no privatized companies? neoliberalism hasn't put a foothold on its state? good.
Socialism is enshrined in Vietnam's constitution, thus they are looking forward for it.

>>2582965
>blackwater has two approved candidates running for senate in maine
lucky them!



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2580082
Most of these planes are decades old Soviet and Chinese aircraft. This is definitely the weakest branch of their military (not counting the anti-air forces, which are quite powerful).

So I learned today that apparently, in the DPRK, abortion is both illegal but also state enforced:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_North_Korea

You would think a state would just change its laws so that it could official what it wants but no, that'snot for the backward irrational oriental DPRK.

>>2581005

Looks like I caught it in its tracks.

>>2581014
The AI admits defeats. Its over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Korea

Looks like some of the recent death rate calculations are wrong as well; They don't match the deaths/population ratio at all.



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