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what are the odds and the outcome of the governor of calufornia turning communist?
i woukdnt write it off i can see it happening.
Itd probably lead to a civil war.

Newsome becoming communist? Are you high?

>>2240348
as the olygarchy becomes more bold that radicallizes people on the left further left

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idk but this flag went hard as fuck

>>2240351
The governor of California is a member of the oligarchy. He is not in any way "on the left" nor will he move "further left "

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>>2240347
>what are the odds and the outcome of the governor of calufornia turning communist?
>What are the odds of a dyed-in-the-wool Neoliberal that presides over the AnCap "paradise" known as California becoming a Communist.
Slightly more likely than a ACP landslide victory in the next Presidential election.



 

Webm Thread. The old one seem to have disappeared.
Try to keep it to as much 'OC' as possible, including just things you cut yourself.
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So recently a bunch of chuds in Austin had a large pronatalism conference and it's a sector of the right that the tech oriented types seem to be most heavily gravitated towards currently.

I think it's true that there is a slowing birthrate in doveloped counties and that could cause issues but its obvious that the only reason rightoids want this is because they need more worker drones.

What's your take on this growing aspect of the right?
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>>2238967
Leftism cant solve it either, no amount of gibs will fix the damage that the notion that woman are human and not cattle caused, only islam can fix it

>>2238967
Looks are so deceiving, in any situation you would easily call this dude an incel chud, but he has more kids and therefore an evolutionary victory than almost all chad looking dudes

>>2239251
>These things are annoying
okay faggot

>>2239015
it's so stupid because for class society to work the ruling class has to outnumber the exploited class. these chuds want to have 11 children and for each of their 11 children to have 11 children, and so on and so forth. It's an absurd expectation. Even if fulfilled, their 1331 great-grandchildren will mostly be nameless proles with no particular attachment to their insane ideology.

Anti natalism is right, my child isn't a pawn to he used by rightoid chuds or leftoid schizos



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>Socially degenerate as the libs, economically out of touch as the Neo-cons
>the literal worst of both worlds
Still, why did libertarianism become strangely popular among various types of popular media figures, like comedians, filmmakers, and actors?
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>>2233242
>he's one of those 90s North American anarchists from AJODA and those types of post-left publications … most explicitly in the USA
That style of 90s "post-left anarchism" is a weird thing and seems like it has been forgotten. I don't know enough to talk about it except I've read from some people (who seem to know what they're talking about) that some of them would get into weird reactoid stuff, but maybe someone else can do a dive at some point. Also that was happening for a bit due to burnout and disillusionment after the anti-WTO protests but before the Iraq and Afghanistan wars generated the anti-war protest movement.

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>>2212978
Many such cases. Maybe it would be prudent to exercise skepticism of prominent native voices and check to see if they've been outed as a pretendian yet.

>>2231350
Been meaning to watch this.
We should make a /leftypol/ movie list.

>>2239088
There's a whole website dedicated to the subject
https://pretendians.com

Many of the claimants are professional activists and/or academics. The latter were so widespread and unchallenged for decades, even though their claims would quickly be thrown in the trash if anyone bothered to do a little research.

>>2239088
That's pretty easy to tell, it's not even about looks, most indigenous people are just rural people who face similar but more extreme challenges as other poor rural communities in the US, but their people, they wear normal clothes and probably have similar views and insights as other "normies", anyone who ever exaggerates a mystical connection to nature is probably faking it



 

Apparently, the UN is working alongside the Congolese army to prevent the m23 terrorist group from advancing into Goma—a city near the Congo-Rwandan border. Reports have found that UN soldiers have fired artillery directly at M23 positions.

Other African countries (mainly Nigeria and South Africa) have confirmed that some of their soldiers have been killed trying to contain M23.

Personally, I think it’s kind of relieving knowing that the UN for once developed a spine to do anything right. I also am deeply concerned about another continental-scale war erupting in Africa like what happened during the Congo crisis.

As for the Sudan war, it looks like it’s going to see the RSF obliterated
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A semi-recent development with m23 taught me something about nearly all organized militias. M23 currently amounts to a mindless terrorist group than a politicized force. Months of sustained violence against the FARDC and wazalendo armies have left the terrorists in an undisciplined and fragile state. Reports by the UN are showing that thousands of children have been raped by m23 goons in the past two months.

This level of indiscipline only really tells me that the phrase “we don’t negotiate with terrorists” really could be taken at face value. I doubt any peace talks are coming out of this shit show after that report and several others came out about the activities of that terrorist group. That shit is neither forgiveable or negotiable.

this shit is terrible but i appreciate you OP for keeping us updated.

M23 report

Largely speaking, that terririst group is losing territory or is merely only preserving whatever they have left. Most people have left eastern Congo entirely and many of the smaller towns have been left partially or fully abondoned since the start of the year.
Unsurprisingly, this casual mass exodus of people has left the terrorists in an even more vulnerable position. Reports over systemic child rape, mass looting of remaining civilian assets, and summary killings have been reported in the region by the UN. These findings are similar to the reports present in RSF controlled territory in Sudan.

Normally, I’d be happy as I could say comfortably that the terrorists are being starved out and seeing open resistance even in places they directly control—which is true. Unfortunately, the president of Congo is a fucking idiot and is currently jeapordizing whatever gains are being made himself by inviting even more mercenaries and bad actors to justify the creation of more terrorist groups.

National reports by the current Congolese federal government are finding that the territory just north of Kinshasa (Congo’s political capital) is under siege by another major terrorist group vying to remove the current president while in the east and part of the south are being invaded by other terrorist actors.

Civilian resistance and organization against the current kleptocratic and incompetent government will ultimately be the only way for the terrorist problem in Congo to face exterminated

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Newest development: apparently, an announcement by m23 and kngolese leaders have declared a truce to end the ongoing war in Congo

Personally, I don’t believe in this for a few reasons:
•every other attempt at peace failed, and it was explicitly m23 forces that broke peace agreements
•each time something like this was declared, it was used as an opportunity for those same terrorists to reorganize and remobilize
•those terrorists resorted to child rape, kidnapping, and other forms of civilian torture to threaten peace anyways
•the details of how this peace agreement are supposed to work aren’t clarified anyways

It’s obvious just looking at m23’s history and it’s obvious alignment with Rwanda that that group is beyond incapable of recognizing peace or even consider withdrawing from eastern Congo as necessary for the health and safety of normal people around them. Coincidentally, fighting is still reported to be ongoing near the edges of whatever territory that those terrorists are hanging on to.

Don’t get your hopes up from this announcement. Expect it to go absolutely no where.

>>2239962
I’m going to add in more comments to clarify ideas implicit to this declaration anyways.
• it’s most likely that this was agreed to by m23 out of panic. The organization lost all momentum by around late February and Rwanda stopped sending in direct support to prevent any more losses in its military power and reputation throughout east Africa but also to avoid sanctions from its western and East African backers. Being cut off from supplies while those in hostage in east Congo are fleeing each day puts a lot of pressure on the group to figure out whatever desperate solutions they can muster to avoid the inevitable internal collapse that comes with mindlessly seizing power by force without preparation for maintaining it.
•most of the people affected aren’t in any position to want to coexist with m23 and its members anyways. Given that the justice system is a joke anyways, the only outcome of a peace agreement (assuming this even goes anywhere and doesn’t get trashed like all the other ones) is m23 collapsing with its members either jailed, exiled from Congolese society, or executed.



 

What's the best approach to the issue of child influencers (or "kidfluencers") being used and abused by their parents on social media?

Recently, we've seen loads of dirt come out about family vloggers, such as the 8 Passengers/Ruby Franke scandal. Not to mention parents using their kids for monetized content over Instagram and TikTok. These kids are almost never compensated for their work (because, let's face it, what they're doing for social media counts as child labour) and their parents are making all the money from the content these kids are featured in.

Not to mention, in the case of Gekyume Onfroy (vid related), this kid's grief over the loss of his famous SoundCloud rapper father is being blatantly exploited for views. This kid has been treated as a product his entire life and his sadness is now being turned into a public spectacle. Part of me says the people doing this deserve punishment.

There have also been several laws against using kids for social media in California and most recently in Utah. Does anyone know enough details to give a materialist/Marxist analysis of these laws?
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>>2234710
who the fuck cares about Tentacion in 2025?

>>2235329
Ahhh a video calling for more censorship on a monopolized platform.

Let's be real, it's child abuse

>>2234706

ultimately social media as it current exists only hurts people and incentivises people to act in anti social ways towards each other.

the world would a million times better with these companies and all the people that work for them buried 6 feet under.

>>2239592
Literally nobody except some obsessive autist who regularly comes to make these threads.



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Considering that Paul Linebarger was a CIA man specializing in psychological warfare, what does the Instrumentality of Mankind series say about how glowies view the world and what their ideal society should be?

Think Blue, Count Two.

Yes.

Namely, that glowies aren't actually democratic in ideology, see themselves as part of a ruling elite (separate but linked to bourgeois elites), and exult in their ability to manage peoples.

Omg the human instrumentality project is real???? Omg my favourite anime serial experiments lain is in fact real life? All my family is in fact the CIA and I am the god of the internet??? ??? ?!!! 131 Omg the jews????????>>2239709


Omega foxtrot 1. Pharsalus Omnicron 2. Axis Shock 3. Uriel angel geometric 7. 777. Deep agent activation complete.

>>2239717
It is shitposting.
Even if you are being ironic.



 

as far as praxis i think troskyism might be the way to go. Were not ready for cybercom just yet but well get there.
What is troskyism as far as praxis?
The militant workers are the backbone, the party is just to enable them.
Thats my understanding.

Trotskyism is when èmigrès, dillitante, intellectual – unreliable

>>2238225
>The militant workers are the backbone, the party is just to enable them.
That's hardly unique to trotskyism and I can't really think of a tendency that doesn't see it that way.

>>2239601
Because Trotskyism comes after MLism has carried out the revolution and answers the question "what do now?" with "just start invading neighbours until everyone is communist I guess".



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Why are ziggies allied with the US & Israel? Thats kinda weird, I thought Russia was supposed to btfo the US and help Gaza and Assad and the Global South and shit, where is Putin's help (besides sending funds to the AfD) 🤔
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>>2238515
>Moving in general is not viable for most people, but if you have a place at the moment, you can kick start a way to move
<Can we have healthcare please, I heard Swede…..
>HUH?! Fuck you you commie loving piece of shit. You dare you mention the flaws of our country. You should leave because this criticism makes me upset
>Go move to the commies China man Kim Jong Un if you love socialism so much
>I dont care if you have family here or want to see improvements in your community, YOU MUST LEAVE
Unironic boomer burger nationalist who supports NATO. we cant get any lower

I've heard the IRS still wants income tax when you work abroad and has tax treaties with essentially no one, so if you do move abroad as a US citizen then you'll still have to pay some income tax to the IRS on top of local income taxes.

If true, then yeah, that's essentially protection against brain drain.

>>2239532
>arktos publishing
isn't that one of those stormfag publishing houses?

>>2238231
I crunched the numbers. Europe is more free than Russia and USA.

>>2238231
did someone edit the OP to say "ziggies" instead of "ziggers"? did that accomplish anything? this thread is still low quality bait and the pseudoslur is still transparently inferred.



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators
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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2238771
>my source is deepseek…

Out of curiosity, has anyone here read Strumilin's work in the original Russian?

>>2239080
nope. do you happen to have his work in English?

speaking of non-English sources, here's some Germans being interviewed by ifddr.org about planning in the DDR:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPVjZhE7yDt7pT3hX9VI_yL6jKRhmCH3m
about half of the videos have English subtitles
Helmut Dunkhase seems to be a fan of Cockshott, and he's translated TANS to German. perhaps we should add him to the OP? website: https://helmutdunkhase.hier-im-netz.de/

>>2239575
>planning must be centralized, and it must apply to the entire society. the issue is its democratization
mein neger



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