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Politically, there are no people more repulsive to me than those Balts (by the way, I’m not a Russophile or anything like that). Such an exhausting underass fly syndrome and good house uyghur vibe radiates from all three countries in that forgotten little corner of Europe. To some extent, it can be understood, considering their position and historical context, but their pathological hatred and Nazi-leaning collusion, in the style of an obedient little dog, is so irritating and disgusting that it goes beyond anything that could justify them.

I don’t know what your experience with them is, but whenever I’ve come across someone from that crowd - mostly online - it’s always the same impression: they throw shade and open hatred toward 'my' country (‘little Russia, blah blah blah’), convinced that they’re above the Russians, with some strange badger-like habitus about them. Incredibly unpleasant people.

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I only ever met a transwoman from Lithuania. She was nice.

Read Devils Trapped In Amber

>>2566363
I actually only ever met nice people from the baltic countries in real life. And when it comes to the rude ones online, it helps to remember that they only exist because CPSU collapsed and only as long as it doesn't recover. The difference in firepower makes their existence as in any way politically relevant very easy to end as soon as the decision to restore the Soviet Union is taken.

>>2566960
>end as soon as the decision to restore the Soviet Union is taken.
Isnt this exactly what Russia is trying to do in Ukraine but without the socialism part?



 

New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.
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>>2558358
I think one thing the video misses is the fact that the "Soviet Government" as it existed wasn't ever supposed to be a permanent state of affairs. It was essentially a slap-dashed thing put together after after the sudden success of the October Revolution. But after the German Revolution failed the bolsheviks were left holding the bill so to speak. So I can only really shrug at alot of his criticisms because he seems to be under the assumption that Lenin's project was a permanent Soviet state apparatus rather than a temporary structure meant to carry Russia over the socialist finish line. Once the world revolution was closed off permanently the Bolsheviks whole world view at that point was in crisis and alot of changes had to be made at a point in time where Lenin's health was declining massively, so saying that Lenin was too egotistical or such to give up power I think is wrong. Its more that he only realized that the entire system had to be changed only after it was too late, really Lenin approving of the formation of the USSR in 1922 at all was a compromise from him. Initally at the 10th congress Lenin told Trotsky to oppose the integration of Georgia because Lenin didn't want the return of Russian chauvinism but he relented after since he was literally dying. It then became almost impossible for him to actually implement changes when running against party opposition practically because he didn't really have the energy to do anything other than sit in his dacha. Lenin really only had alot of managable political power during the civil war, and once it ended he was far to sick to refound the entire government as was needed and no one other than him had enough political legitimacy to operate such a task without Lenin dying first and creating a power vacuum. So in the end Stalin was able to consolidate power primarily because the position of general-secretary was an afterthought in a temporary jury rigged system that wasn't even supposed to last as long as it did. There are definitely criticisms to be had for a lack of long-term thinking but I think the video judges Lenin with the benefit of hindsight far too much.

>>2566703
already told in the text as an example, he adamantly denied that such document existed but when it became useful claimed was real when the only text pointed is one where Lenin is pissed off at everyone and specially stalin for talking shit to his wife.
also an testament is meaningless, after all who chooses the Gensec where the party and the soviets and not lenin, it was just a power play, useful for trotsky but a falsehood.

>>2566725
Not that anon but Stalin was a retarded Georgian mafioso who killed all the actual communists in the USSR. Once that happened any reforms became impossible because every communist was dead and replaced with braindead cocksuckers who only knew how to grovel. Quit defending the retard who left the communists in Greece & Korea out to dry because he was a coward who gave up every inch possible in the cold war. Collectivization was retarded and his policy of social fascism caused the Nazi's to rise to power in germany aswell. Truly he was the architect of the USSR's demise and its a wonder why anyone defends that brainlet. Trotsky was dumb aswell before you call me a Trot find some other boogeyman.

>>2566732
>Not that anon but Stalin was a retarded Georgian mafioso who killed all the actual communists in the USSR.(bunch of spergposting that is worth no time)
completely idiotic positions based on fallacies, distortions and no actual facts, an waste of time.
thanks for contribution to the discussion about how people will use lies and falsifications to strenghten their positions with no material factology behind with an actual example, seek a book and not a cold war indoctrination manual thanks.

>>2566732
> Stalin was a retarded Georgian mafioso who killed all the actual communists in the USSR.
This characterization of Stalin is typical of people who have not read his works

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2snvqAQfkfz4OPo36DwgsaEPL



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Alienation is not some fucking moral crisis of humanity it's literally just how wage labor and capital accumulation work. Marxist humanists can't admit that because they keep putting "the human" at the center of everything instead of looking at the material setup that creates it.
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It's a legal term, from which the "moral crisis" proceeds

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Alien nation? That's what we're gonna be if we don't build that wall!

alien nation.

think about that.

>>2561611
>Alienation is not some fucking moral crisis of humanity
nobody with any marxist background, humanist or otherwise, says that
stop fighting imaginary enemies in your head

I got into a fight with a leftcom online about this. they got mad because I pointed out that not only is alienation not bad, it's what makes proles proles. we should lean into it



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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>>2562383
I know it is edited, but I can't help but want to fall to my knees. Also, I know she would be disgusted with me in any scenario and she's right.

>>2563161
>Please read Lenin
>Rambles about Rosa who Lenin famously disagreed with on the national question

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I don't give a fuck about any of these "le based anti imperialist" countries until any of them ACTUALLY takes any meaningful action against GLOBAL CAPITALISM.

>>2566879
stfu retard, establish your own DOTP instead of leeching off the global south



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Let's put aside the elephant in the room (India's obsession with Israel), and even their anti-muslim pro-hindu-obsession. Just look at their diplomatic and trade situation with Russia, China, and the USA.

India, by the laws of history, should have become communist-led by 2010, the latest. Socialism was (and still is) the class interest of 98% of their population. It's fucking insane, if you think about how cucked their comprador bourgeoisie situation is + the underdeveloped state of their infrastructure, their semi-feudal small manufacturing, their idiotic e-scam economy, the absolute destitution of their villages/peasants, and so on. Obviously, it was the USA that """"helped"""" India to get rid of the Naxalite """"threat"""".

But then you look at this fucking country's geopolitics/diplomacy/trade and it DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE, DUDE.

https://swentr.site/india/627932-new-great-game-in-south-asia/ (Please ignore the title and keep reading, it's a very good summary.)

Like, what the actual FUCK is India's foreign policy?!

They hate Pakistan, they try to bribe Sri Lanka, they suck both US and multipolar dick at the same time, and they have constant border disputes.

It's fuckin insane, to the point that future historians will be writing books about the ridiculous failures of India's foreign policy.
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>>2566181
First time seeing an imperialist wannabe?

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>they suck both US and multipolar dick at the same time
most countries do this
"multipolar" powers also suck the USA's dick

>>2566707
Kerala should be independent first. USIR when?

>>2566270
I honestly don't know how the Naxalites didn't get more support. There must have been really strong boogeyman anti-communist propaganda by Hindu religioids/West-glazers

>>2566430
No one can convince me electoral democracy isn't just a release valve for revolutionary pressure.



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Why don't Palestinians just make czech hedgehogs like picrel? It worked for the Ukrainians. They have plenty of rubble.

Fuck Israel fascists! Free Palestine! RIP Abu Obaida!
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>>2566424
if it was a useful tactic im sure they would have adopted it. but i guess the metal is far more useful to be melted down, they can use it to reinforce tunnels, or make improvised explosives and shells.

>>2566519
Yeah,but they can get some rebar fucking easily.

>>2566589
There is a cease fire going on last time I checked. Maybe focus on humanitarian issues instead of building rebar obstacles.

>>2566591
>There is a cease fire going on
….? The Israelis never honored it and humanitarian aid is still being blocked

>>2566591
The ceasefire that the Zionists refuse to respect? That ceasefire?



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).

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Typo



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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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we got reports that a lot of the protesters were rallied and brought in packs by criminals linked to merchants who were threatened by local gangs who charge for protection if they didn't go to the protests;

https://x.com/FreddyOliviery/status/1989832913199010313

of the few Gen-z-ers that did go to the protest might be linked to a detained woman from Guadalajara named Daniela Toussaint who used to pimp minors in 2020

https://www.tvazteca.com/aztecauno/venga-la-alegria/notas-vla/notas/mario-bautista-acusado-abuso-sexual-daniela-toussaint-denunciantes

she was detained on the protests and are treating her like a victim now

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1MW3fxQMzm/

>>2565064
Thank you for your thoughtful response maoanon. I generally agree and I also wouldn't want to dismiss the grievances of the Nepalese working people. Of course there's something real, if a bit embryonic in these protests, otherwise they wouldn't happen. And I wouldn't want to be dismissive of any protests in principle, but I think it should be noted when these movements ARE coopted by liberals and that such things can happen extremely fast or in many cases are already predisposed to cooption. Popular resentment is a powerful force, porkies know this and they control the media landscape, thus molding the perceived outlets for that force in advance. I don't think it's a coincidence when we see these things happen in real time (the discord voting, the QR code banners in english, the "Gen Z" label, etc), that there is a certain alignment towards western interests. These factors should raise skepticism, while retaining solidarity with the working people regardless of course

Gen Zion


>>2563966
>which makes our Mexican nazis extra funny
I call them naztecs



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>no mention of "khmer rouge"

I don't know how to interpret pol pot.

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>>2565363
why do you feel you must interpret him, or anyone as an individual at all? i mean it would theoretically be kind of interesting to approach pol pot from a schizoanalytic angle but that seems >>>/dead/ on arrival

>>2547940
The same happened to Che in the Congo, why do people think that their "magikkk" has some effect on real, material and dialectical physics

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>>2565692
some of the magikk, like traditional medicines derived from herbs (myth and medicine being inseparable in many societies), was (and still is, in places) a reasonably well-enough to work explanation for the processes of real, material and dialectical physics
not unheard of are drugs used today being extracted, isolated and used on their own in scientific medicine, like the antimalarial drug artemisinin which was discovered during the secret chinese cultural revolution-era program project 523, along with a number of other compounds extracted by Tu Youyou from a variety of traditional chinese folk remedies that she collected the recipes of on a journey throughout the country. this earned her a nobel prize in physiology
<https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228382-000-the-modest-woman-who-beat-malaria-for-china/
however just like the medicinal plants which often contain not only the healing component(s) but also a number of other compounds including the ones with quite unpleasant side effects if ingested/applied on a human, if not outright poison that kills them; the magikk has a comparable byproduct of such in the idealist ways of thinking it is self-reinforcing

>picrel

medicinal plant of strychnos nux-vomica for thread [people's] tax. strychnine trees grow on ទួលស្លែង, Tuŏl Slêng [tuəl slaeŋ]; lit. "Hill of the Poisonous Trees" or "Strychnine Hill" another famous species is the chankiri tree



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Can someone give me non-bullshit explanation of how exactly Western PROLETARIAT benefits from imperialism?

The West exported their investments and know-how and helped in the industrialization of the third world. Not just China, but also SEA, Asian tigers, India, Brazil, Poland, Malaysia etc. This resulted in the exact opposite of what happened in colonialism. The Western industries were hollowed out this time, and outsourced to the third world. Now sure, the Western bourgie benefited from this, but the money didnt trickle down much. That's why in the 1970s you could support a family and live a decent life doing a simple blue collar job and now you cant. So where exactly did the Western PROLETARIAT benefit from this imperialism?
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>>2562260
it didnt give westoids any treats so thats why they think it didnt do shit

I speak for the empire but the empire doesn't speak for me

>>2562307
>The point of Scientific Socialism is to build Communism, not abolish markets. To negate the commodity aspects of socialist direct social products and to attempt to abolish commodity production is obviously erroneous. Ch’en Po-ta, a renegade and Trotskyite, clamored for the abolition of commodity production and exchange during the period of the rapid development of China’s rural people’s commune movement in a vain attempt to lead revolution and construction astray. Chairman Mao saw through this conspiracy in time and engaged him in a resolute struggle. In the resolutions of the Sixth Plenum of the Eighth Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party personally convened and chaired by Chairman Mao, this was pointed out: “This way of thinking which attempts to prematurely abolish commodity production and exchange, prematurely negate the constructive role of commodities, value, money, and price is detrimental to developing socialist construction and is therefore in correct.” Socialist commodity production must not only be retained, but must also be developed to consolidate the economic link between China’s industry and agriculture and between urban and rural areas in order to promote the development of socialist construction.
uh yeah "prematurely" abolish commodity production. In full communism its abolished. So yes the point of scientific socialism is to establish communism but communism implies that commodity production is abolished otherwise you will eventually recreate the social antagonisms of capitalism including class. This is basic shit.

>>2566158
You retards are both wrong, probably because you both redefined “socialism” to mean a specific government policy ya stupid cunts

>>2562294
I don’t identify with any nation, faggot



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