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Why not nationalize merchant capital? It seems like a perfectly reasonable liberal democratic reform that is easily achievable under capitalism. The same way the government takes care of roads it should take care of staffing, education, commuting, communications, shipping, retail and logistics of all sorts. Industry should focus on making goods and providing services and not on costs like staffing, training skilled workers and shipping goods. All that stuff is pure overhead which is best nationalized. Picture unrelated.

>>2562816
some countries do this already (ex: in mexicos constitution)



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For one big example, Look at all that had to happen for the Bolsheviks to succeeded
>WW1
>Nicholas making the decision to go to the front line to lead the troops
>The February Revolution
>Kerensky re-entering Russia into WW1
>Kerensky's government collapsing because he tried to orchestrate a coup on himself and then double crossed the Army by arming red militias in petrograd
>The liberals giving the Bolsheviks(among other parties) guns to help stop the Army from overthrowing the provisional government.
>The other socialist parties(which were more popular) believing Lenin would reinstall the constituent assembly
>When the SRs did rise up they refused to execute captured bolshevik officers or do much of anything.
>When the Petrograd sailors rebelled they sat on their island printing newspapers hoping that the people of Russia would realize Lenin was a big meaniehead and get rid of him.

Obviously the future is not a wide-open blank slate where anything can happen. Even massive upheavals like the First World War had observable conditions. But the way it unfolded(with Belgium being invaded and Britain, followed by America, entering the conflict) was due to random chances and the decisions of a handful of individuals.
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>>2490704
>No future American president can ever unbreak what Trump has already destroyed in the first eight months of his presidency
wtf i love trump now

>>2367946
"Lenin is condemned by modern Trotskyist PMC history 😏"…"🫨 wait no, you have to ignore the satanic New World Order of pedophile globalists who force children to spend hundreds of dollars to buy those history textbooks from the Zionist agent Robert Maxwell. We need to talk about pre-1992 history actually, REEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

>>2491487
>Robert Maxwell
Who?

>>2526877
Mossad agent

>>2290660
>all these replies to obvious bait



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got mad having to constantly hear from stirnites so i made this to cope. how the fuck does an ideology like this even continue to exist?

literally every time someone even says something pro-com, there's always a fucking stirnite in the corner of the room chuckling to themselves, waiting for their mom to call them home for chicken nuggies and appy juice
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>>2562951
Do we have hard evidence of that?

>>2562966
None of the brain damage to fascism pipelines have truly been studied. [schiz->nazbol, meth->fash, stroke->fash]

We should also test the alleged efficacy of the LSD to left pipeline. I have doubts, as MKULTRA would surely have some notes on it.

OP is a fragile baby.

>>2562974
Holy shit soyjaks are real

>>2563903

and they're called german ashkenazis



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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2168075
yes proles are retards who need to be manipulated with emotions to achieve social change, democracy is a lie, next question.

>>2168075
so what you're saying is people stupidly accept their own servitude to the state and act as useful idiots for it? yeah that makes sense. How does that change anything though? Critique is not affected in the slightest just because people don't understand or accept its truthfulness

>>2168075
Marxist theory was studying in schools and universities/polytechnics so they must at least know the basics.

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>>2562665
>late soviet union
you are seriously overestimating the average school student's willingness to learn about what is mostly seen as "philosophy and theory" plus the power of anti-communist propaganda, yes even inside the soviet union and i would say especially inside it out of all (historical) AES
almost everyone with 2 hands and a little free time could modify their radio to be able to "catch" broadcasts of "golosa" (voice of america, voice of europe, other propaganda "voices"), radio freedom/radio free X and BBC. thank you radioelectronics
>есть обычай на Руси, слушать ночью Би-би-си

relevant memoirs about soviet citizens and foreign radio in particular, in russian https://von-hoffmann.livejournal.com/1432917.html

>>2562677
An interesting use of biblical imagery for the radio



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Why is China willingly wasting it's time and resources with the AI thing rather than continuing to develop the productive forces while they're still ahead?

Is the idea that they can lead the west into going all-in on something fruitless with the knowledge that China can tank the damage, merely leading the AI race to get the west to hurdle faster at it? Like the AI race is a tunnel painted on a brick wall? Why would western tech companies knowingly charge into a brick wall like that? Like I know they're stupid but surely not that stupid.

not too sure if this is a /leftypol/ or /tech/ thing, sorry.
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>bans Kendrick but not this

a robust computer industry means ready access and easy production of high-tech military equipment like missile guidance systems, drones, electronic warfare equipment, etc., and if nothing else, 'AI' investing will ensure that computers and hardware are supported industries.

additionally, it is possible that a relatively sane society like china can find genuine uses for LLM tech. imagine if american technology wasn't led by idiots like Musk and Altman, but instead by qualified people with at least some education in marxist and related theory.

for example, while i don't think 'AI' should necessarily replace all human operation of vehicles, it would be useful to control more complicated aspects of certain vehicles or other equipment. for a fun sci fi example, something like a small mech or larger powered armor would likely need some kind of automatic limb control for basic walking and movement, while a pilot (or a program if you are anthro-pessimistic) designates directions or waypoint coordinates. Your only other option is some kind of brain-machine interface for something like that. for a more realistic modern example, many fighter jets have computerized systems handle the finer details of the maneuvering of the plane, keeping it stable and reacting reliably to control inputs, while the human pilot applies guidance via the control stick and various buttons etc.

meanwhile americans just use new tech to generate low quality goon material and lobster jesus facebook memes to scam the elderly with.

behind all the "AI" hype nonsense there are actual useful products like better automatic translation and machine vision to help with tasks like >>2563313

>implying AI doesn’t compose a productive force
Idk what to tell you bro.

>>2563243
AI literally is a tool/means of production you absolute cretin.



 

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Provocative take: NSN's Sydney photo-op going ahead was a good thing.
>cops publicly exposed as incompetent or compromised
>impatiently targeting Jews (strategic L)
>one has already been fired from an IT job, another 'under investigation' (less funding for the movement)
Obviously their majority aren't doing mask-off ops, especially those with higher-paying or sensitive government-contracted jobs. But attrition on their foot soldiers is real.

also laughing at one of them for this absolute statement:
>“You people want us unemployed, kicked out the street, want our family broken up and my newborn to starve,” he said. “All because I disagree with you politically. What you try to do to us personally is far worse than any of our general political ideology.”
SMH publishing this quote because they know no-one will take it seriously.

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https://victoriansocialists.org.au/news/electoral-registration-update
This is the saltiest thing I've read in a while.

>we cant register our favourite party name. can you, uh, stop existing please? just fold into us.

It's perfectly fine to ask and explain, but the writing style of the statement is just petty.


>>2563778
this is going to be like the 8th time the governments let the nazis run around for the sake of pushing through some anti-protestor law or precedent

Like they didn't even pretend to try to stop them this time




 

>By the spring of 2024, a newly sober Isenberg felt like she could finally stop performing all the time and just be herself, a complex human being who was still learning. She planned to spend the summer living with her parents while saving up money. In the fall, she would become the first person in her family to attend a four-year college. Then she got pregnant.

>The news brought a “sense of dread,” says Isenberg. Her first thought was strong and immediate: I’m not going to have a baby. After a friend had described having an abortion, Isenberg’s own mindset had started to shift. She’d begun to think of herself as pro-choice. It wouldn’t be the end of the world, she thought, if I had an abortion. This is something I’m allowed to do.


>It may seem strange that Isenberg would reach out to Turner in this moment. But she was feeling stressed, sick, and confused and wanted to have a backup plan just in case she didn’t go through with the abortion. She knew Turner—who’d also recently left PAAU but whose politics were growing more, not less, conservative—would try to talk her out of it, but she’d also recently seen Turner using her social media platforms to raise money for pregnant women and mothers in need. Isenberg had less than $100 in her bank account. If she changed her mind, she would be in dire need of financial help.


>“I was also thinking, This is Kristin Turner, the girl I was friends with,” remembers Isenberg. “I wasn’t thinking, She is acting as a vessel for people who are much more powerful than her.”


>Turner put Isenberg in touch with an organization that gave money to women with “crisis pregnancies.” She also asked for Isenberg’s address so she could send her a care package and promised a McDonald’s breakfast if Isenberg agreed to get her ultrasound at a crisis pregnancy center instead of the Charlotte Planned Parenthood (Isenberg declined the latter).


>Isenberg expected Turner and members of PAAU to offer her “counseling” and a lecture on the psychological impacts of abortion and how carrying out a pregnancy is a “nonviolent choice.” She assumed they’d ask their Instagram followers to “say a prayer for my friend who’s chosen the heartbreak of abortion,” as she’d once posted for others. But she believed that in the end, they’d respect he
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>>2559332
What are you arguing for my nyugha?

>>2562635
Those “socialist” abortion bans were also miserable failures. Infant mortality during the Soviet ban skyrocketed. Half of all maternal deaths in Hoxha’s Albania were caused by illegal abortions. This is in spite of both countries having free healthcare, housing, and childcare like PAAU wants.

Also, Maria Mies points out that the pro-Natalie’s policies in the Soviet Bloc countries caused a lot of resentment among the women of those nations. As men got more leisure time due to technology making their jobs more efficient, women often found themselves working two — or sometimes three — jobs since they were expected to be mothers to a lot of children inside the home AND build up the productive forces outside the home. So, when the USSR re-legalized abortion, Soviet women began aborting like crazy because they didn’t want to put in all the work raising a bunch of kids, especially when the men were never expected to sacrifice their leisure time to do the same.

>>2563124
>Those “socialist” abortion bans were also miserable failures. Infant mortality during the Soviet ban skyrocketed. Half of all maternal deaths in Hoxha’s Albania were caused by illegal abortions.
this is true and i agree the results were more of a failure, i suppose that in stalin's case at least part of the decision was also both a lack of foresight stemming from idealism/overestimation of concrete advancements in the material conditions of soviet parents and no similar experiences of making abortion illegal again given it being once legal and state-sponsored, which would demonstrate the inevitable RETVRN to illegal abortions. can't speak about hoxha's case being influenced by not having similar experiences in socialist states however

>This is in spite of both countries having free healthcare, housing, and childcare like PAAU wants.

this is even more ridiculous from PAAU, an organization in 21st century that is not only completely able to look back at the past experiments of various other countries under different economic systems, but has also NOT provided yet any of the "wants" stated despite abortion already being outlawed

>So, when the USSR re-legalized abortion, Soviet women began aborting like crazy because they didn’t want to put in all the work raising a bunch of kids, especially when the men were never expected to sacrifice their leisure time to do the same.

wasn't medical abortion also used as a kind of birth control before widespread contraception measures being available?

>>2563150
PAAU claims to be intersectional feminists or some shit. So, not MLS but liberals and SocDems. You can just take a look at their IG page @PAAUnow to get a glimpse of what they believe and how stupid their overall ideology is.

Ask them how they believe a future socialist society should be organized and they’ll tell you nothing. Because they’re dumb and have no clue.

>>2562759
>bragging about breaking federal law
>using their real names and faces
Fed shit.



 

No man has been slandered so much in the history of science. The class enemy and their pseudo-intellectuals pour mud and shit on the man who dared to call a spade a spade - that biology is on firm Marxist-Leninist principles. That we did not create Marxism-Leninism, but that it is Marxism-Leninism that created us. Dialetical materialist understanding of the flora and fauna was forged with Great Darwin’s evolution theory. It was sharpened into a fine blade Engels’ brilliant ‘Part played by labour in the transition from ape to man’. Comrade Lysenko gallantly wielded the Immortal Science and embarked on steppe-wide crusade against scarcity amd famine. And the treat lovers hated him for it, they still do. No, no, no! No abundance of wheat, rice, and corn for the asiatic hordes and the African specimen! How dare they! Funko Pops for me, Famine Poop for thee! By burying Lysenko , and promoting Monsanto debauchery in the fields, by bullying Bohm-deBroglie and promoting the Heisenberg-Bohr mystic mafia in reactors, the Treatlerites secured the Century for themselves. But we must not be afraid. We must uphold the Great Men of Science. As Neruda’s pen truthfully carved: To be Man - that is the Stalinist Law !
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>>2523214
Lysenkoism does not go against 'Mendelian Genetics, Molecular Genetics, and Evolution through Natural Selection'.

>>2523226
>eugenics are real guys!!!1
Did you know that twin experiments were proven to be false, right? Without twins experiment, there is no basis for "intelligence" difference, the only real thing that matters between human races. And, thus, eugenics is a useless idea


Would any of my fellow Comrades like to give an unbiased Intellectual critique of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Charts I posted at >>2523214 that all came from the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, 🤔✊😜🧬?

>>2523364
Maybe you are thinking of a different guy, because those are all things that Lysenko constantly bitched about, 😂🤣!




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So, in addition to the contingent of people who think that Native Americans don’t exist anymore and were all genocided (which ironically is US government propaganda to justify its continued settler-colonial occupation of indigenous land), there also seems to be a contingent of people who thinks that all people in the US regardless of race, *even Native Americans*, are irredeemable and unrevolutionary and should even be killed, such as the posts I’ve circled in the two screenshots I attached. While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself), and that even manyBlack people in the US still contribute to US imperialism, how on earth could you have this little intellectual curiosity and empathy for the plight of indigenous peoples in the so-called US. I mean come on, thousands of completely unique languages foodways, ways of music and art, and beautiful people were and are continuing to be destroyed for the sake of building the most horrible and destructive empire on the history of earth, and instead of having empathy for those whose lands it is built on, you say you want to continue said evil empire’s genocide all while claiming to oppose said evil empire, just because a small comprador class of Native Americans aligns with US imperialism. I mean even if you don’t care about the people themselves, which you should, shouldn’t you care for the sake of intellectualism about thousands of distinct languages and cultures?

Also, something weird I’ve been noticing is that people say that Hawaii, Guam, and Puerto Rico should be freed from the US, but they never say that native peoples with in the lower 48 states and Alaska should be freed, which just naturalizes the US empire’s occupation of indigenous land.

Idk, it just seems like from online discourse both on and off of /leftypol/, that 95+ percent of leftists outside of the US think that all Native Americans are extinct, or think that they’re horrible and unrevolutionary. NonAmericanBros, especially GlobalSouthBros, please tell me you don’t think this. Please tell me you have love and solidarity for your fellow oppressed people, while also being able to criticize them while they are reactionary in a healthy way without writing them off as a whole. I’m not trying to smear every Non-USian leftist, and I know it’s probably just me being emotionallyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2562173
>communism is when kill white people

>>2562529
>You are delusional if you think that mastodon or any such alt-media is even 5% as popular as twitter
I never said so, nor do I give a shit. It's gaining popularity as the twitter shit falls apart, and it itself isn't fucking twitter.
>Try talking to people in real life. No one knows what that is.
Multiple coworkers in three different jobs introduced me to it before I gave it a shot. It's obviously not as popular as any core web platform, but it's not obscure in the slightest, and it's clearly what grass touching leftists use if they bother with social media at all.

>>2562173
>While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself)

People will unironically say this shit then complain “they think decolonization means we’ll do to them what they did to us!”

What J. Sakai does to a mothefrucker.

>>2562173
The U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American populations like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police (the ICE raids in Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo communities throughout the U$, combined with Trump deploying the National Guard to the Black/New Afrikan and Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo neighborhoods of LA, Chicago, DC, and Memphis, has essentially transformed this into a De Jure reality), as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations are Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists (U$ Communists must give up on the Quixotic Bourgeois Electoralist Tailist Chauvinist effort to desperately appeal to the Ultra-Reactionary White Settler Labor Aristocracy) as stipulated by the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR that is articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR, which will happen once the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is already viable in the Material Conditions, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where MaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>>2562803
>the short term benefits aren't worth the planet getting destroyed and everyone hating us

America's enemies worship America and legitimize themselves by pointing out similar to America they are.

zohran status?

>>2563246
he's saying the same shit Matt Christman did but from the other perspective lol

>>2563169
Building red army is the only thing that works. American never even tried to build red army so they are fascist

>>2562592
>They don't achieve things
>Literally become mayor of the largest city in the world
Also
>If you dont join my larp you are literally evil child rapist jeffrey epstein human trafficker
Man, do you people get why i say that you guys have nothing to you except appeal to morality? How is this any different than some unhinged street preacher condemning non-Christians to hellfire and saying that all liberals are secretly child eating abortion demons? That's not going to attract anyone to the movement



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