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>your country or region
>top five [realistic] political positions to make a populist party

Go.

Hard mode: minimise tailism without becoming unpopular. e.g. anti-immigration but not anti-immigrant.
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>>2563732
Apart from housing and healthcare all of that would be wildly unpopular.

>>2563607
USA

1. Universal health care. Start with single-payer (Medicare for All) then expand to full nationalization. Cut long-term costs by emphasizing preventative care.
2. Massive public housing program. Vienna on steroids. Housing should be so good that everyone wants to live in it. Full unconditional housing should be the goal. Should look aesthetically pleasing for PR purposes.
3. Nationwide high speed rail connecting all lower 48 states. Should be cheap and fast enough to compete with airlines.
4. Reinvestment in NASA, funded by seizing all of Elon Musk's assets. First goal should be a second moon landing.
5. Permanent revival and expansion of the Civilian Conservation Corps, acting as a full training and employment program.

>Russia

>revise privatization (total instant nationalization is unrealistic, but renationalizing key enterprises and investigating enterprises that were privatized in a clearly criminal way would be popular)

>bring back soviet/belarus-style guaranteed employment to cut back on educated youths doordashing instead of seeking professional employment
>actual import replacement instead of putting stickers on Chinese goods. partially nationalize car and semiconductor companies, put FSB agents behind their CEOs, heavily subsidize workers conditions until there is a healthy workforce making affordable and decent (even if downmarket) Russian cars and computers
>death sentences for corruption China style
>drop a nuke on ukraine

>>2563607
Country: Argentina

1. Massive development of football public infrastructure

2. Massive nationalization of meat industry and weekly distribution of free asado in government plazas, effectively turning them in the de facto core of the life of the people

3. Massive propaganda psyop campaign that will convince people that Argentina has effective control over the malvinas, while throwing free meat and football players at the UK in order to make them shut up

4. Lunfardo as official government language, pertaining bureaucracy, law, education… Massive pressure to the UN to teach translators lunfardo in order to use it in international councils

5. Massive psyop campaign that will target the capital and convince it that its exorbitant privilege is entirely legitimate, while at the same time deploying a parallel campaign in the provinces that will convince people that the state is actually decentralizing, while in reality absolutely nothing is being done but everyone's happy

>>2563607
>[realistic] political positions
so literally anything already existing bourgeois parties already propose? lol

>anti-immigration but not anti-immigrant

literally all countries to different degrees let acceptable immigrants in and kick out the undesirables already

cool thread man



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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>>2563610
>for anything eve&doe OP specified just 6 cases

>uncritical support
>uncritical

Lmao, lol even.

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>>2563370
>USSR and China got along without hereditary rule just fine.
<just fine
anon…. you've been in a coma. it's 2025. sit down.

>>2563200
lenin concluded imperialism based of capital
you are a retard

>>2562383
I know it is edited, but I can't help but want to fall to my knees. Also, I know she would be disgusted with me in any scenario and she's right.



 

Spartan society is unique and rare in slave societies through history. The majority of its society was made of slaves: 100 000 Helots, and only around 8000 Spartans. The question naturally arises: How comes the minority rule over the majority?

Humanity is facing a similar situation, power in the hands of a few thousands, yet billions of people can't free themselves. So the question remains: how comes the minority rule over the majority?

David Hume attempted to wisely answer such question:

"Nothing is more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than to see the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and to observe the implicit submission with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers.

When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded."

As such, to change society masses to change opinion. It is, therefore, political education the most important task of the revolutionary.
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>>2549932
>What's stopping me from turning around, taking the whip and whipping they instead?

The fear of getting whipped again. I don't care how tough you are, it won't take more than a few good licks on the bare back with a bullwhip or a birch switch to drive all those silly thoughts of rebellion out of your mind and make you realize what is actually most important to you in your life, which is to not get whipped again.

1. divide and conquer
- incentivize atomized, subservient behavior cooperative to occupation
- punish or remove the strong, charismatic, intelligent and outspoken
- this creates levels of privilege and misery, with the goal of not falling further down, and maybe being able to climb up. The outcome is controlled by the ruling class, putting them in charge of the actions of any rational and self-serving individual

2. supremacy ideology
- with the material foundation of drastic differences in living condition, convince both the ruling and ruled classes of fundamental differences that must cause this division. The rulers are superior and untouchable, the ruled are weak, stupid, and selfish
- the rulers see the condition of the oppressed as natural
- the ruled believe there's no way they could ever beat the rulers
- some ruled worship or want to become the rulers, despising their own class. It creates solidarity among the rulers and dissolves solidarity among the ruled

3. manipulating people with the effects of trauma
- use terror and deprivation on the ruled to make them obedient, make them grateful to barely (but at least) survive
- makes individuals less outgoing, therefore less likely to organize
- keep them only thinking about survival, and the easiest way to survive the next day is to obey and not do anything differently than before
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just 2 reasons really

1) Raw strength; the ruling class is obviously better equipped to militarily enforce their will land defend their interests, whereas proles literally have nothing and getting guns is hard

2) Ideology; as if the previous point weren't already enough, the majority of people nowadays absolutely love the system they live under (completely consciously and willingly) and are dumb enough to think its interests coincide with theirs. That's how you get people going around spewing constructive criticism of capitalism out of their mouths.

>>2547502
organization, discipline
why do you think communists are obsessed with those? because this is the source of power

>>2553610
A method to oevrcome all those forms of control has never been found and probably will never be. But it is not required as history shows. Good post though
>>2557273
Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy. As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way
>>2557523
This discipline and organization is nowhere to be seen. Long gone are the days of thousands of common people organized meaningfully



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2561841
Brighton Beach

oh, wait…

>>2561841
В итернете? В соцсетях русскоязычных, наверное.
Скорее всего будут думать, что ты Джон-мешок с деньгами, так что на контакт будут идти охотнее. Как филиппинки, только белые.

>>2561844
Там евреи.

>>2561841
in russia
>>2562365
>Скорее всего будут думать, что ты Джон-мешок с деньгами, так что на контакт будут идти охотнее. Как филиппинки, только белые.
applies only to the ones deliberately seeking out foreigners, i wouldn't say they make good wife material but to each their own i suppose

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>>2562365
>Там евреи.



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2562391
>Its like stuck in the 90s
You don't say. Have you actually read what happened in the 90s? North Korea's crisis was catastrophic, worse than other socialist countries. The collapse of the socialist bloc fucked up North Korea's trade, the country got hit by climate disaster perhaps linked to El Niño Southern Oscillation, its energy system almost collapsed, industry collapsed, there were massive floods in 1995-96 that displaced millions of people and ruined the economy, drought in 1997 that resulted in famine and hundreds of thousands dead. In the middle of all this DPRK was developing nuclear weapons and United States was pressuring it to cease. By the end of the 1990s, the economy had shrunk to half its size. It was a black decade.

>>2562128
>as long as westoids don't get their hands on the north
russia is a western country so take that as you will

>>2562689
Russia has not gotten it's hands on DPRK Though.

>>2562682

There probably wasn't a famine in the 90s though; The demographic data just doesn't support it.

That said the 90s were indeed terrible for the DPRK; Specifically 96-02.

DPRK understands the western world order is over. I respect that the DPRK has had the analysis and nimbleness to see that the old-world is over and mobilise towards it's own interest with speed instead of inertia. They understand their mision.
Statement by North Korean Foreign Minister Choe Son-hui
The full text of the statement released by North Korean Foreign Minister Choe Son-hui on the 13th, “The G7 has no right to go against the sovereign choice of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea,” is as follows.

Recently, in Canada, the G7 foreign ministers issued a joint statement that disregarded and violated the Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, calling for "complete denuclearization" by anyone.

I express my strong dissatisfaction and regret at the blatant hostile actions of the G7 foreign ministers, which constitute a direct violation of our national constitution, and I firmly condemn and reject them using the strongest rhetorical expressions.

The G7's inert obsession with "denuclearization," a concept widely acknowledged as impossible to achieve, only serves to push itself to the margins of the international community and prove that it is a marginalized minority interest group in a corner of international relations.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea's current status is not influenced by external rhetorical claims, and in today's harsh geopolitical environment, possessing nuclear weapons is the most accurate option for deterring the most dangerous and hostile states.

No one has the right to force us to change the Constitution, and no one should attempt to change the Constitution.

The way to ensure peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in the Asia-Pacific region lies not in advocating unrealistic "denuclearization," but in respecting the Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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Not Syria, Turkey peace process stuff but can someone please explain me what he meant by this? I was lost before even the Mandani stuff.
We are socialists, alhamdulillah
<Ege Cansen
The intellectual property of this striking title belongs to Yunus Emre Erdölen, one of the writers of "Freedom ." I congratulate him. Before continuing, as is our custom, I will attempt to delve into the roots of some words. Words are the building blocks of understanding, thinking, and generating ideas. Correct ideas are constructed with the right words. The original meaning of words changes over time. More accurately, people ascribe meanings to them that suit their convenience. Because humans are economic. One form of economic behavior is not taking responsibility for things you cannot do. "Elhamdulillah " does not mean "Thank God," but "I praise God ." This translation was made by the literary scholar Hamdullah Suphi (1885-1966). He took the Turkish equivalent of the Arabic name "Hamdullah" (Turkish: Tanrıöver) as his surname. Hamt(d) is derived from the root "h, m, d." It means praise or exaltation. Muhammad (Mehmet), Ahmed, Mahmut, and so on, all come from this root. Gratitude does not come from the same root. The English equivalent of "Elhamdulillah " is "Praise (the) God ." Hallelujah also has the same meaning. The prophets told their believers, "Do not deify yourself, anyone, or me by praising or boasting, but praise Almighty God ." They added, "The rules of life (the sharia) I have communicated are not my commandments, but God's." Thus, they did not assume the responsibility of rewarding those who adhere to the rules they communicated and punishing those who do not. This attitude is rational, that is, economic. In another article, I will discuss the economic aspects of the expressions "salamun aleykum" and "aleykum selam."

He is a revolutionist

Zohran Mamdani, a 34-year-old Ugandan-born Indian Shia Muslim, has been elected mayor of New York City as the Democratic Party's candidate. Mamdani met his secular Muslim wife on an online dating site and married her. He describes himself as a socialist who supports the rights of minorities, women, and gays. In a city with a large Jewish population like New York, he has openly supported Palestinians. Despite the widespread fear of Islam and socialism (read: communism) among white Americans, he has made neithPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2536818
what do you guys think is going on here?
Talal Silo to Rudaw: I am ready to return to the ranks of the SDF through negotiation.
Talal Silo, the former spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), expressed his readiness to return to the SDF ranks "through negotiation or humanitarian work aimed at preventing war" with Damascus, stressing that he is still in contact with leading figures in the SDF for the purpose of reassurance and friendship.

Salou defected from the Syrian Democratic Forces in 2017, heading to areas controlled by the Free Army factions north of Aleppo at that time, and then left for Türkiye.

Silo, who was given the rank of "colonel," indicated his refusal to play an "offensive" role against the Syrian Democratic Forces, noting that he is currently "threatened" by Ankara.

During the interview with Rudaw, conducted by presenter Dilbakhwin Dara, he confirmed his readiness to visit areas of northern and eastern Syria, such as the cities of Qamishli, Hasakah and Raqqa, provided that there are “special arrangements to preserve his life,” expressing his desire to settle in the Kurdish city of Afrin because it is “beautiful and its people are hospitable.”

Below is the text of the dialogue:

Rudaw: We welcome Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). He later defected and went to Turkey, a move that sparked much controversy and reaction, but he did not wish to antagonize the SDF. Now, he has returned to the forefront with his interviews and statements. I felt it was important at this sensitive time to conduct a special interview with him. My guest is Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces, from Aleppo. Welcome, Colonel, I hope you are well. Before you became the SDF spokesperson, after you left, and even now, I have been following you closely. I want to start with the final question: Are you prepared to return to the ranks of the SDF?

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topkek. gg. get rekt.
The Damascus administration is alleged to have handed over 'Uyghur jihadists' to China.
According to the report, a diplomatic source stated that the number of people to be handed over was 400 jihadists.

It is known that tens of thousands of foreign “jihadists” flocked to Syria, especially through Türkiye, during the civil war between 2011 and 2024.

A Syrian government source, who asked to remain anonymous due to sensitivity, said the situation of Uyghur fighters was raised in meetings with Foreign Minister Assad al-Shabani in China.

It remains unknown whether such a step will be taken. The interim government's actions to date raise serious questions. Since the beginning of the Syrian war, tens of thousands of foreigners have flocked to Syria, particularly to join groups affiliated with ISIS and al-Qaeda.

In June, it was reported that the US had conditionally approved a plan prepared by Syria's new government to integrate thousands of former foreign jihadists into the national army. US President Donald Trump's special envoy for Syria, Thomas Barrack, stated that Washington had given the green light on the condition that the process be conducted with "full transparency."

It was stated that within the scope of the plan, approximately 3,500 foreign "warriors" of Uyghur origin, mostly from China and surrounding countries, would join the newly established 84th Division of the Syrian Army.

When asked by Reuters in Damascus, “Does the US approve of the inclusion of foreign fighters in the new Syrian army?” Thomas Barrack responded, “I can say that there is an agreement based on transparency.”

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>>2564002
Related:

>Syria reiterated its commitment to the One-China principle, reaffirming that Taiwan is an integral part of the People’s Republic of China and an inalienable part of its territory.


>He emphasized his concern for China’s security interests and affirmed that Syria will not be a source of threat to China, nor will it allow any entities to use its territory for activities that could harm China’s security, sovereignty, or interests.

This is probably referring to uyghur jihadists in Syria.

>China also affirmed its support for Syria’s developmental path, which aligns with its national conditions, and stressed that the occupied Syrian Golan is Syrian land, whose status is recognized by the international community.


https://xcancel.com/syrianmofaex/status/1990404428214464647

>>2564002
so nothingburger?



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Why isn't China funneling money to combat anti-communist propaganda in the west? Or anti-chinese propaganda? Or anything like that? All they do is whine about the confucious institute but its clearly not doing jackshit since sinophobia and anti-communism continue to be rampant. Where are the think tanks? Why aren't they financing channels to screw over the algorhytmn? Why? If they're doing something or anything at all its not enough. Anywhere east of Russia is generally an anti-communist shithole that holds no respect for China and millions of citizens brainwashed into pro-American slopaganda about how China's "stealing technology from the US", "China is totalitarian surveillence undemocratic state when west is freedumz n freeze peach", "Russia aggressor 2022 Putin dictator" "Hummus antisemitism". Why is China letting this retardation continue? Its only fueling the retardation war machine and conditioning the retarded to die for retardation. Why come China is just letting anti-chinese and anti-communist propaganda flood the internet? China is literally winning on all grounds except propaganda, why hasn't it solidified its global importance by financing anti-western sentinment? Why do we have to be forced to listen and see all this retarded bullshit and argue with it to no avail when China has the power to finance cointel to win the information war?
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>>2563305
Its CPC mister Langley.

>>2554839
Maybe Chinese just dont care about western opinions and instead focus on cooperating with 3rd world countries.

>>2554844
respond to what and why.
If the west had a organized and sound comparty with a shot to take power it would make sense for the chinese to fund propaganda thinktanks etc for them but you dont what are they supposed to fund propaganda for you to win internet arguments better they spend it on a bridge somewhere.

>>2563639
I dont see any massive pro-China agitation in the 3rd world either. And if it there was it would also be on the internet for all the world to see and experience as well.

>>2563436
Mutual aid with Nazis will only end with a bigger mess than you started off with



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MCGA
CHINESE WORLD
SINICIZE THE PLANET
DESTROY ALL RELIGION
DESTROY ALL NON-CHINESE CULTURE
ROBOTICS
TECHNOLOGY
SCIENCE


CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA

CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
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>>2563559
>the entire reason I'm a Marxist is to get away from Marxism
>Sino-Marxism, yes
>Chinese ultranationalism, just fascism ino-Marxism, yes, in new garb.
<Fascism in a new garb is when internationalism
GO kill yourself autonomist stalinist shit chauvinist in one nation, I fuck your mother anticommunist retard, CHINA WORLD-WIDE, CHINA NUMBER ONE I FUCK YOUR NATLIBTARDED FAMILY

>>2563559
Marxism in one basement, FUCK STALIN, FUCK YOU TOO, CHINA WORLD WIDE, INTERNATIONAL. STALINIST USSR FAIL, MAOIST CHINA BECOME GREATEST AES IN THE WORLD.

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>>2563559
VIVA XIISMO FUCK YOUR MOTHERISMO TURD WORLDIST LIBTARDED TRASH
CHINA 360 CHINA WORLDWIDE

ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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down with first worldism
down with third worldism
up with second worldism
all countries will become second world countries due to multipolarity. third world countries will be uplifted to be like China and Russia. first world countries will be humbled to be like China and Russia.

The garden and jungle will wither, and only the forest will remain!



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Why not nationalize merchant capital? It seems like a perfectly reasonable liberal democratic reform that is easily achievable under capitalism. The same way the government takes care of roads it should take care of staffing, education, commuting, communications, shipping, retail and logistics of all sorts. Industry should focus on making goods and providing services and not on costs like staffing, training skilled workers and shipping goods. All that stuff is pure overhead which is best nationalized. Picture unrelated.

>>2562816
some countries do this already (ex: in mexicos constitution)



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For one big example, Look at all that had to happen for the Bolsheviks to succeeded
>WW1
>Nicholas making the decision to go to the front line to lead the troops
>The February Revolution
>Kerensky re-entering Russia into WW1
>Kerensky's government collapsing because he tried to orchestrate a coup on himself and then double crossed the Army by arming red militias in petrograd
>The liberals giving the Bolsheviks(among other parties) guns to help stop the Army from overthrowing the provisional government.
>The other socialist parties(which were more popular) believing Lenin would reinstall the constituent assembly
>When the SRs did rise up they refused to execute captured bolshevik officers or do much of anything.
>When the Petrograd sailors rebelled they sat on their island printing newspapers hoping that the people of Russia would realize Lenin was a big meaniehead and get rid of him.

Obviously the future is not a wide-open blank slate where anything can happen. Even massive upheavals like the First World War had observable conditions. But the way it unfolded(with Belgium being invaded and Britain, followed by America, entering the conflict) was due to random chances and the decisions of a handful of individuals.
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>>2490704
>No future American president can ever unbreak what Trump has already destroyed in the first eight months of his presidency
wtf i love trump now

>>2367946
"Lenin is condemned by modern Trotskyist PMC history 😏"…"🫨 wait no, you have to ignore the satanic New World Order of pedophile globalists who force children to spend hundreds of dollars to buy those history textbooks from the Zionist agent Robert Maxwell. We need to talk about pre-1992 history actually, REEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

>>2491487
>Robert Maxwell
Who?

>>2526877
Mossad agent

>>2290660
>all these replies to obvious bait



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