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It does bother me. It actually does bother me to a certain degree. Why don't they do anything?

If there are so many people on the left—in fact, the majority of the people on the left are people in the upper middle class, college-educated people who have resources, who have fucking time, money, and resources to do things—but they don't do anything. They simply don't do anything.

And it kind of bothers me because it's like, I have been homeless. I've been homeless before. And I'll probably be homeless again multiple times in the future. I will probably be homeless. This is just the way it goes based on my material conditions. And yet I am doing every single fucking thing that I can to advance the movement—whether it's writing, whether it's helping try to organize events, whether it's having one-on-one conversations with people at those events, whether it's uprooting my entire life and moving to a location that I believe will facilitate having those conversations, whether it's spending my time making museums and flyers and turning those out and putting them out, or building a brand and outreach.

Anybody can do that. I literally put my entire website code out so anyone can do what I do. There's nothing special about what I do. And in fact, someone who is college-educated—I'm not college-educated, I've never been to college—could probably do what I do a whole lot better. But no one does. And it bothers me.

It bothers me because I've literally had moments in my life where I have been down in the dirt, like, wanting to give up on living. But I've still got a tab open trying to work on shit for the movement. People will call me a grifter. People will call me mentally ill for believing in this shit. And it's like, the people who have the money and the time and the resources just do not give a fuck.

Or if they do give a fuck, they are donating to NGOs. Like, cool, bro, you gave to a fucking charity that is tied to the CIA and 95% of their donations go to the board of directors. And then the board of directors have a $20,000 a year salary. Cool. Do you feel like you did something? You sending money to charity does not negate your lack of contribution to a real revolutionary movement, and in fact this is the function of charity in a post BPP Breakfast Program America, to get the people with the resources to disengage.

But the guy who's trying to get it out the mud anyway they can—like, oh yeah, I found this pamphlePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Why is it okay for somebody like Second Thought to make Get Rich peddling NordVPN or whatever other sponsor he has for his videos and to get rich having advertisements on each of his videos? But if I just want to make enough money to keep myself from being homeless while making content that is more radical and more revolutionary, I'm a grifter, and he's the respected voice. Knowing damn well that those people came from a higher class position than me, that those people had access to resources that I would never have access to. And do we not believe that this paints the view of the left towards the working class and the only people that we allow to have voices are people who come from a high enough class position to survive the brutality of wage slavery? If you can not only survive but to thrive under that system, now you get to speak about the problems with the system, but the people who are enduring it every day don't get to have a voice because if they were to have a voice, they'd be grifters. It doesn't make sense, and it shows a high level of hypocrisy on the left. Yeah, well, so-and-so, he's a streamer, and he talks about communism, but look, he gave all his money to charity, so it's fine. What charity did he give his money to? Was it just another charity?

Why do you think that they came up with the charity industrial complex in the 1970s? What happened in the 1970s that would predicate the creation of the nonprofit industrial complex?
Was it things like the Black Panthers breakfast program or the mutual aid programs that both communists and anarchists were aspiring to and putting out? Could it be that by these streamers donating the majority of their money not to other radicals or to other actual leftist organizations but to charity, they're, one, getting a tax write-off and, two, allowing themselves to not really give back to the actual movement in a meaningful way? And that the fans of these people will be the first to tell you you're a grifter when you just want to make minimum wage doing what you do enough to keep you housed. And I'm okay with being homeless. People are homeless, and it just is what it is in this society. I'm not afraid of it.

I don't believe that I deserve anything more than anyone else, but it does bother me to see that my allies and my comrades who exist in the same space as me are really only doing this shit to line their pocketbooks. From the outside looking in, and I've asked other people who watch tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2344562
The other thing that's not talked about is a lot of these people are getting seed money. They're getting money from well-off people who donate to their Patreon, or to a span of several accounts. There are whole fucking companies that specialize in making this happen. They don't- you think they're gonna tell their fucking fanbase about that? No. The only reason that you would know that this type of thing happens is if you tried to exist in the same space as them. Yeah, people will seed their Patreon. So, so-and-so's making a thousand bucks a month on Patreon, or two thousand bucks a month on Patreon, but only a hundred and fifty dollars of that are coming from their YouTube audience. Where's the rest of that money coming from, brother? Is it coming from them, where they already had the money and were able to put some of it up front to, like, have the social proof? Is it coming from people like Peter Thiel and his network of folks that fund these podcasters? Because we know the Red Scare people are funded by this fucking billionaire. We know that they're fascists masquerading as leftists. And it is kind of weird that the women went fascist and not the men. I'm not gonna lie, that is kind of strange, but I digress. We know that a lot of these people are from a higher level of class background than me. I'm from fucking a trailer park in South Louisiana where sometimes we didn't have electricity or running water growing up because the bills, we couldn't afford them. That's a lot different than somebody from Southern California who lives in a mansion whose uncle, whose fucking uncle founded the Young Turks. So why does he get to be the guy who voices the, who represents the working class and not someone who's actually from the working class? Why does the guy whose uncle founded the Young Turks get to be the representative of the working class but not the guy whose fucking father ruined both of his knees as a carpenter with no health care, working side jobs? Why does that guy get to be the fucking representative? Why does the guy whose uncle founded the Young Turks get to be the representative of the working class? And from the start have a lot easier time making their voices heard. And when one motherfucker wants to get his voice heard and he's not from that class position, he's gotta beg and plead and do everything he can to get the exposure. I can'tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Truth is, housing precarity, being borderline homeless, the threat of being on the street versus in a motel for a few more nights, this is not things that are rare to experience. In fact, there are the daily life of many people in the working class. And the fact that me talking about this with openness and honesty from a position where I have a platform makes so many people upset. Oh, you're just a grifter. But they're not upset at the people who have never lived this reality commenting on it. They're not upset at the guy who's from a class background that is literally the exact opposite of mine, being the representative of the working class, being the guy who gets to speak to all the people at 24 hours a day in his nice California fucking mansion. The guy who gets to promote genociders like Bernie Sanders and AOC to the left, to the radicalized youth of this nation. The guy who gets to do that is from a class background that is the exact opposite of mine. And the vast overwhelming majority of people don't call him a grifter. Oh, he does good work. He's bringing people to the left. He does good work. Let him have his – yeah, sure, his opinions aren't radical, but he's doing important work. Yeah, he's doing important work by telling you, the communist, to swallow your pride and go vote for an imperialist because the imperialist party is paying him to fucking promote these people. But that's okay. He's not a grifter. He's not a grifter because he's not directly asking you for money to stay alive, though. But the guy who's actually from the working class, the guy who's experiencing the suffering, not in an anthropological sense, but in a lived reality sense, that guy's the grifter. That guy doesn't have a voice. He can't represent the working class. Explain that to me.

End of the line. Chips on the table. Can you hold your poker face?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-houdini-magazine

>>2344630
Eric, There's countless activists, agit-prop artists, publishers, distro-kids, whole collectives even, who are going through the same economic problems as you. Precarious economic situations, unemployment, homelessness, marginalization, etc, etc… is becoming every day a more generalized situation. That's what the struggle is about. And the more you struggle authentically, the harder it gets.
You gotta do what you gotta do to get by, I get it. It's great that you're taking the initiative to make zines and other DIY activities and you seem like a smart kid, but the self-promotion and public sulking to guilt people into supporting you economically is pretty cringe tbh. I know it's normalised in influencer culture and also in zine culture, but when you are trying to present your project as a serious political one I think you would do better to make it less about yourself and focusing more on what message you're trying to convey to people and the objectives you want to achieve collectively for social transformation. You're right, there are loads of unapolagetic grifters making bank off of spreading false consciousness, and you seem a lot more grounded in the misery of prole life than them. But as the old saying goes, you can't combat alienation through alienated means. The working class doesn't need another charismatic champion of the cause in the world of the spectacle, it needs to constitute itself as an autonomous force in the real world using self-organization and collective action.



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Since the 1900s did Germany have an imperialist inclination towards the Baltic states (and the Ukraine). After WW1, during the era of nazification, all three Baltic states had an active fifth column. This column was influenced by hitlerite ideas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaps_Movement
<The Vaps Movement was an Estonian political organization. Founded in 1929, it emerged as a right wing radical popular movement from the Union of Participants in the Estonian War of Independence an association of veterans of the Estonian War of Independence (1918–1920).[
<The organisation welcomed Hitler's rise to power, even though they later tried to distance themselves from Nazism.
<… the League won absolute majorities in local elections in the three largest cities at the beginning of 1934.
<The movement maintained good relations with Finnish fascist movements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voldemarininkai
<The group stemmed from the militarized Iron Wolf organization established in 1927
<<Iron Wolfs was a semi-official Lithuanian militarized organization active in 1928–1930 … it was inspired by the Blackshirts
<In 1929–1940, voldemarininkai planned eight coups
<They increasingly sympathized and collaborated with Nazi Germany. After the German occupation of Lithuania in June 1941, voldemarininkai reestablished Iron Wolf and gained control of the Lithuanian police and the Lithuanian TDA Battalion which participated in the Holocaust and killed about 26,000 Jews between July and December 1941.

Latvia's the outlier because there was no party dictatorship but a single dictator, which held corporativist views and was inspired by nazi ideas.
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>>2288597
This buy unironically

>>2288225
How did you not include the Mitteleuropa plan??

>>2288225
Shouldn't have pushed russian nationalism so hard after Lenin died.

Or just say that the Baltic states were illegitimate from start. The ""independent"" governments of Baltics and Finland were literally propped up by foreign invaders after local soviets and worker movements were crushed. Occupation my ass, this was a restoration of soviet rule.

>>2349216
Not a thing until Brezhnev era.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2342972

Thank you.

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>>2296436
I've seen several videos of Chechens doing this to guys in Russia. They work with the cops?

>>2343140
>They work with the cops?
Что-то вроде того. Это, на сколько мне известно, ребята из охранных структур царька местного в Чечне - Кадырова. Они чуть-чуть ровнее перед законом.

mp

>>2296436
What a shithole



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Reminder that Israel is a terror organization that is using human shields to protect itself and is
deliberately targeting civilians, while Hamas is doing everything in its power to minimize civilian damage in Gaza.
100,000 tons of bombs were dropped on Gaza by Israel, causing the deaths of 7,000,000 Gazans (a number that includes both terrorists and civilians). This means that for every ton of bombs dropped by Israel on Gaza, more than ten Gazans died. Since Gaza is insanely dense, this figure is only possible if Israel is trying to maximize civilian damage by literally bombing a city, thus proving that Israel is the literal devil and needs to be removed from the Earth.

>moral high ground
ummmm… idk sounds like moralism to me :/



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<MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN - MIGA edition

Live news feed:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/18/live-israel-iran-attacks-continue-trump-demands-unconditional-surrender

USS Nimitz tracker:
https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/vessels/USS-Nimitz-(CVN-68)/CURRENT-POSITION/1/303981000

Tracker of all military aircraft with active transponders. Focus mostly on the refueler and cargoe planes operated by Western states:
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>>2349040
Suck my dick faggot. You are distinctive enough to lick up all my chunks of my ejaculate.

>>2349006
Unless the PFLP is just saying that as a front to seem palatable then that's quite a naive goal given that legal equality doesn't actually result in equality. That's how liberals think. For a complete solution it will be necessary to have one single state that is ruled by the indigenous and it will be necessary to boot a majority of Israelis out because most of them are racist settlers who will try to hold on to their colonial exploits and the systemic power their socioeconomic status affords them. Not surprised ytoid lefitsts default to liberalism if it makes them avoid scary decolonization.

>>2349119
Also, a big argument in favor of booting Zionists out is South African example; not until the most outspoken racist settler population was thrown out of the country, wars didn't stop, oppression didn't stop, civil unrest and crimes didn't stop - and not only in South Africa itself but also in neighbouring countries. Removal or neutralization of Israel is necessary for the Middle East to heal

>>2348059
He's a crank. Not worth listening to.

>>2348875
reddit spacing



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Recent news:
Last thread lasted two months, so keep in mind these events are separated by weeks.


Stalemate near Tishreen dam between the SDF and the SNA.
Insurgency developments & germination in the coast.
Israel announces it's not withdrawing from the newly-acquired Syrian territories.
Al-Julani forms a new government, formally dissolves the former SAA and declares himself president. New Ministry of Defense and army so far is barely cohesive and resembles one of those countless joint operations rooms we've seen before.
HTS attacks Lebanese areas under the justification of "combating smuggling". Withdraws quickly.
Clashes in the Druze Damascus suburb of Jaramana that were quickly defused. Suwayda (majority Druze region south of Damascus) is still de-facto autonomous and controlled by armed Druze factions.
Massive uprising by the insurgents in the coastal regions that was quelled in around 4 days. Hundreds of military casualties on both sides. Insurgents go back to guerilla mode after.
Massacres of Alawites in the coastal regions during said uprising. At least 1000 civvies dead. HTS and Julani blame undisciplined SNA units and say they're gonna punish the perpetrators.
HTS and SDF sign memorandum for integration.

Links:
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>>2314219
If even half of this is true, Kurds are absolutely cooked. And I will open the tap on my well-fermented piss and vinegar.

Syria's Islamist-led interim government has decreed that women must wear burkinis - a swimsuit that covers the body except for the face, hands and feet - or other "decent" clothes at public beaches and swimming pools.

The regulations, issued by the tourism ministry, were "aimed at enhancing public safety standards and preserving public decency", Syrian state news channel Al-Ikhbariyah al-Suriyah reported.

Private beaches, clubs and pools, as well as hotels with more than four stars, are exempt, the directive said.

Women often dress modestly on public beaches in Syria, but some women do opt for more Western styles of swimwear. The new government previously pledged to govern inclusively.

Under the new directive, beachgoers and visitors to public pools must wear "more modest swimwear", specifying "the burkini or swimming clothes that cover more of the body".

The decree added that women should wear a cover-up or loose clothing over their swimwear when they move between swimming areas.

"Travelling in swimwear outside the beach without appropriate cover is prohibited," it said.

Men should also wear a shirt when they are not swimming, and are not allowed to be bare-chested outside swimming areas.
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Syria: Local sources: More than 30 killed and wounded in a suicide bombing inside Mar Elias Church in the Doueila neighborhood of Damascus.


>>2347388
ASSAD MUST RETURN.



 

Are drug dealers our unironic allies

Think about the Opium Wars in China and how the British exercised imperialism by trying to get loads of Chinese addicted to smack. Wouldn’t it make sense for leftists to strategically peddle deadly drugs like fentanyl, krokodil, and this new shit mentioned in vidrel into bourgeois and settler neighbourhoods in order to cause severe chaos and weaken their power? Imagine if nepo babies of porkies began dropping like flies because the drugs they were sold were laced with substances that could kill them instantly. Imagine if comrades became high-end dealers and started selling this stuff ourselves in order to kill off as many porkies as possible. Not just porkies but also gentrifiers in places like Highland Park, Wicker Park, Bushwick, and the like. It would do a great deal to bring the ruling class to their knees and would give comrades as well as the internally colonized a better chance to fight back.
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>>2348480
Though that goes with any kind of trade and entrepreneurship, regardless of if its drugs or any other commodities.

>>2348053
>Wouldn’t it make sense for leftists to strategically peddle deadly drugs like fentanyl, krokodil, and this new shit mentioned in vidrel into bourgeois and settler neighbourhoods
Opinion discarded. Shoot all ethno-nationalists, shoot all drug dealers. Sakai is a Fed.

>>2348623
then stop posting on niche imageboards and actually shoot some people
mfers will do anything but praxis

>>2348053
>sell poisoned drugs to rich kids
>now proles have the upper hand
what

>anarchist
>retarded thread
every single time

also anyone living where cartels actually exists knows they are always massacring communists in their territories



 

Serious question for the comrades here.

It feels like the objective conditions for capitalism's collapse are just screaming at us every single day. Economic crises, ecological breakdown unprecedented scale, mass alienation and atomization as the baseline state, political dysfunction that borders on parody, imperial decay… the contradictions are so obvious a child could point them out.

Yet, despite all this, there's no coherent, mass movement building critical power. We have scattered struggles, localized resistance, theory posting, and… well, mostly just watching the whole rotten system unravel in slow motion. Historically, shouldn't these blatant contradictions be fueling significant class struggle and revolutionary organization on a much larger scale?

Are we just stuck in a cycle of commentary and theory without effective action? What does meaningful praxis even look like in an era of hyper-fragmentation, digital distraction, pervasive state/corporate surveillance and control, and the decimation of traditional working-class sites of power? Are we missing something fundamental about how change happens in the 21st century under late-stage capital, or is this just the long, drawn-out decline we're witnessing, with no revolutionary break on the horizon?

Interested to hear genuine thoughts and analysis, not just doomposting (though understand that too). What's the materialist analysis of our current incapacity despite the system's obvious decay?
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>>2348302
I saw that guy on another thread, he likes to bait in this quick respond "WRONG" format, I don't think he actually believes in China, he often deflects from the CPC's actual program while attempting to fabricate apologetics.

>>2348309
oh he's been here for a while, best way is just to get him with his own style

>>2348302
Wrong. Socialist commodities help alleviate the abject poverty of palestinians.
>>2348298
Wrong. China has eliminated the exploiting class, as a class.
>>2348303
Palestinians use socialist commodities to live. You are seeking to deprive them of means of survival.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-03/23/c_137058111.htm#:~:text=The%20trade%20with%20China%20has,local%20demand%20for%20Chinese%20goods.
>>2348309
Explain how I deviate from the correct path so I can correct it. The proletarian media above decapitates your slander

some retard every year: um is the end finally happening???????



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International trade through fossil fuels is responsible for the population growth around the globe. Especially the trade of food and agrochemicals. What will happen once fossil fuels either run out (worse case scenario) or we stop using them to stop climate change (best case scenario)?

This leaves only some options:
- Use non-fossil fuel ships like in the past, which are certainly slower and lower capacity, causing famine and death
- Global production declines either way because of the damage already done. Adding to this the stopping of international trade, and you have a massive social and economic disaster.

What are the possible solutions and outcomes?
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Neither Nuclear or Green Energy are actually viable for becoming the main source of the world's power supply, once the fossil fuels go humanity will have to be much more mindful about conserving its power. Many European countries already have plans for power rationing. With the oncoming environmental catastrophe you should also expect famines and mass starvation, much of the world's viable farmland is turning into desert at a alarming rate and this alongside the fuel crisis and insane current levels of population growth will lead to billions going hungry. The deer that eat everything on the island and breed out of control eventually go hungry.

>Use non-fossil fuel ships like in the past, which are certainly slower and lower capacity, causing famine and death

50% of current ship traffic is caused by the transport of fossil fuels themselves lmao

>>2348073
>Neither Nuclear or Green Energy are actually viable for becoming the main source of the world's power supply,

They literally are. What is this? 80s era style talking points? The fuck?

>>2347874
or, electric propellers, which also work too
>>2348073
were you born in 1961? this hasn't been true for over 20 years, and also you could completely stop using fossil fuels within 5 years for anything besides certain types of transportation and there wouldn't be some apocalyptic age

>>2348113
Nuclear energy is not the miracle cure it is sold to be. We must rely on renewable energy for now and approach nuclear energy with caution. Fission energy may be a better option



 

When you (yes, you bitch!) and your party obtain power, who will be allowed to vote on decisions? And why?

>inb4 idealism

>inb4 democracy-as-an-ideology US brainworms
>inb4 idiot monarchist fantasy
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>>2347604
Honestly, what I (>>2347473) want is basically the same thing as you, but with laws needing to pass an additional vote from a random selection of citizens so as to add an additional layer of anti-corruption.

Your local workers' council nominates you for elections, if they find you worthy. Your face gets posted on the people's election website next to your workplace achievements, public statements and commendations/criticisms by other workers. The locality goes on to vote on a proportional list while consulting every candidate's rep sheets, if you are #1 you move on to the next (borough>town>city>oblast>SSR) level, if you're #2 you drop out but become the local borough foreman or something like that. The top votes keep going upwards until they form a national Supreme Council that produces key laws and elects from their number a sitting presidium that overviews the economic plan for the rest of the year.

r8 I'm drunk

Hapeshire will repent. It's for the necessity of it.

>>2348002

Pog I'm way drunker than yew

>voting



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