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Why didn‘t the British colonize North America? Why did they leave such vast lands to a bunch of random persecuted people fleeing to America?

>Well they lost the war again them

Okay, but Great Britain didn‘t seem as interested in colonizing America anyways which is the point of my question.
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>>2579139
Security economics and the difficulties of keeping control over distant lands. The UK had a global empire of which the UK was just one bit, so it was more cost effective to try to make treaties with natives. The independent US on the other hand faced a different calculus: there was no risk that the army would be tied down fighting Indians while France attacked their European heartlands.

>>2579698
"Of which the UK was just one bit" > "of which the US was just one bit"

the british metropole probably didnt have a huge material interest in settler-colonialism
even in proto-canada they didnt rely only on british settlers, and even then i think most of the settler-colonialism happened when proto-canada became more autonomous
and like the other replies said, they had to compete with the spanish and french colonial empires

>>2580798
Using slave labor is more profitable then random peasants forming settlements in the wilderness where their is no economic activity.




 

Any comrades from Utah here?

How do we fix this beyond fucked up state?

The LDS church runs everything here. Nearly every single little detail of the state’s culture is dictated by Mormonism. Mormon temples are the largest buildings in every city and town. Mormon bookstores are more numerous than most other stores, and old school soda shops are more numerous than cafes (Mormons prohibit coffee and tea but allow caffeinated soda for some reason). Multiple buildings, streets, and businesses are named after Mormon things (e.g. “Cumorrah Avenue”). Multi-level marketing companies are everywhere and sponsor things like stadiums (MLM companies are littered with Mormon moms).

The LDS church is basically run like a massive corporation. They are very good at missionizing and making new converts, plus Mormons tend to get married young and have bucketloads of kids. The average Mormon family has between 4-7 children. The point is, the LDS church is highly reactionary and rules over Utah with an iron fist, yet there is almost no internal resistance to it. “Utah” basically is the LDS church. And that’s not even mentioning the entire settler-colonial history of the church either, the mass slaughter of the indigenous that Mormons participated in to create the state of Utah and such.

With that said, how do we deal with this state’s politics if we are socialists living in it? There’s no way someone like AOC or Mamdani or any DSA candidate could ever win here. If there was ever a socialist candidate, they’d either have to ensure the Utah public that they’re a “good Mormon” (which would mean throwing away their principles and participating in a reactionary, settler-colonial theology) or seek to dismantle Utah culture outright by going against the grip of the LDS church, which would be political suicide.

I’m sorry, but I wish this fucking state didn’t exist. Trying to organize anything leftist here feels like a lost cause.
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>>2570365
i've been to cedar and ogden but i don't know a lot; just that cedar is very much centered around its stageplay industry and ogden i've only really passed through going to Eden. Both of them seem a lot more normal than the rest of the state but that might just be from an outside perspective. Cedar seems a little bit like Moab in the sense that there are more laid back and accepting people than elsewhere.

There's also places in the middle of nowhere like nephi or mona that seem to have the same kind of evangelical, dying-town culture as the other midwest states.

>>2570432
Hell if i know lmao, it seems pretty far out of our control unless the church fucks up and disillusions people somehow

>>2570524
So, defeatism?

Joe Hill didn't even want his ashes sent to Utah. Shithole state.

Literally move out and come back as part of Red Army, then send them all to religger labor camps until they change or get worked to death or whatever.



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Why do people use the industrialization and subsequent rise of the standard of living in Russia and China as proof of the success of socialism when neither countries were and are socialist. Socialism being defined as worker ownership of the means of production, as Marx defined, as opposed to state ownership and in the case of modern China with large parts of the economy privately owned. The success for these two countries is a testament to there size, abundance of resources and people. Germany was afraid of pre-revoultionary Russia and predicted by 1917 they would be no match for its growing might. China before the Second Sino-Japanese war was a lot more industrialized than people usually give it credit for, with most of its industrial base being destroyed by the war. And too give examples of two capitalist countries that being the United States and Germany. Both of them were able to surpass the United Kingdom due there larger access to resources and people. And not to mention the increased development of technology allowing industrializeing nations to catch up faster to their established piers. What allowed these countries to industrialize in the first place is a stable government and there ability to fight off foreign threats, which was not the case for Imperial Russia, Qing China and the ROC.
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>>2577979
You didn't watch the video did you? And China has still has capital accumulation hell the soviets didn't need to do that, at least under stalin. And neither countries were and are 'proletariat' run, they are party run by the top of the party.

>>2580619

China will run into the same troubles as the US with unemployment and overproduction

I cannot see the CCP giving up state power

>>2580759
I've already watched it years ago, and he's wrong on so many points. He completely misrepresents Marx and completely misreads the Paris Commune. Also, I already told you that Marx distinguishes a lower phase and a higher phase. Only the final phase is stateless.

>>2580888
>he's wrong on so many points. He completely misrepresents Marx and completely misreads the Paris Commune.
how so?
>Also, I already told you that Marx distinguishes a lower phase and a higher phase.
Hes says this in the video.
>Only the final phase is stateless.
its not the initial phase is also stateless, only under the dictatorship of the proletariat does the state exist.

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>>2580871
that's in the higher phase of communism. we're a long ways from that. that's when the state withers away because it becomes irrelevant. the lower phase is about the ego mediating the id. china can do that. meanwhile, video is an american realizing capitalist states have no ego, only id.



 

I don't see any other threads/generals about Colombia so im making thia thread
Colombia has been in class conlict since the 60's, the ELN is one of the most major insurgent groups and the RARC was the biggest until it was disbanded in 2016, although many RARC members rejected this and still fight on. Cartels and fascists are also fighting both against the goverment and ELN.
Colombia also recently elected a left-wing president in 2022 and the leading party is in a coaltion with the communist party, ALTHOUGH the goverment is selling out to the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Army_(Colombia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARC_dissidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_conflict

>>2580211
Fuck you fake ancom shilling for "communist presidents" and reactionary theology.

>>2580223
how did OP shill anything

>>2580223
I never said he was a communist president, I said the party he is in is in a coalition with the communist party. I don’t support any state especially not the Colombian and I feel like I make that pretty clear



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Can I still be a communist if I think transhumanists could probably learn to accept their birth sex and are getting conned into mutilating themselves to pad big pharma and the service economy? I don't want to do a holocaust about it I swear.
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>>2581065
*the failings of

transhumanists

>OP starts by vagueposting, promises they don't want to do a holocaust about it
>slowly drifts towards arguing his transphobic case more and more, less and less emphasis on his purported socialist/communist sympathies.
>claims he's going to "thread the needle" on "false consciousness convenient to capital", made no engagement whatsoever with the point that post-2024, capital is unambiguously moving in the other direction. despite not engaging here, is clearly angling for an argument because what he really wants to do is argue about transgenderism rather than talk about communism.
The Joanna Cherry of Anonymous. Total >>2580443 vindication.

>>2581087
It has been barely ONE SINGULAR YEAR niqqa the pendulum can easily swing the other way again. Acting like you won't go full throttle on transhumanism again in three years when America and her *toys* paint themselves blue. Acting like your whole leftoid ass isn't hanging out. FULL. BREAK.

but yeah maybe I'm being too singularly obsessed rn. still kys tho

>>2581137
watch total war on south america be declared tomorrow keeeeeeeeekkkkkkk

>can i be a communist if [american retardbabble]
No. Look forward to getting raped by transfolx from the 7th Neo Red Guards division. Hope this helps



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If the proletariat is the historic subject then why are proletarians useless retards while most great socialist figures were not proletarian themselves, i.e. didn’t produce surplus labor value.

<Karl Marx

>Son of a lawyer
>Journalist, philosopher, political economist

<Friedrich Engels

>Part-owner of textile mills
>Factory manager

<Vladimir Lenin

>Son of a noble-rank civil servant
>Lawyer and professional revolutionary

<Leon Trotsky

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>>2580126
i like not thinking

A revolution is the act of millions, primarily workers

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>>2580521
>>2580533
>most proles are retards and that champagne socialists are and always were based
lol at these middle classers retards conveniently presenting themselves as revolutionary

>lead and develop theory

radlibs cope by treating communism like a saintly lore of savior complex logic lol god damn

you dont go hunting for "recruits" for communism or try to teach it on twitter or in classrooms. you dont preach communism to the prole you show them their own interests through organizing and leadership. when their movement grows strong enough, communism comes out of it

>>2580599
>act of millions
it could be hundreds of thousands too, it depends

>>2579979
Rape this guy too

>>2579981
>>2579840
Mods ban these falsifiers NOW!



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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>>2578792
>Sind Sie ein V-Mann
unironisch

>>2579049
>leftydeutschlandpol abgecheckt
<lest Hitler
<nur so als Tipp
>leftydeutschlandpol geschlossen

>>2580349
bist du geistig behindert oder am baiten?

>>2582694
studierst du in bochum?

>>2580315
Weiß ich jetzt nicht. Gibt auch genug reiche europäische Dynastien. Z.B. die Rothschilds die gefühlt im Alleingang das osmanische Reich gefickt haben oder die Warburgs die zeitweise die Macht über die deutsche Reichsbank als auch die U.S. fed hatten. Ganz abgesehen von den ganzen Industriellen der I.G. Farben Konzerne. Ab einem gewissen Punkt sind Vermögenswerte nur noch theoretisch, und ob sie jetzt anglos oder juden oder sonst wer sind sowieso nebensächlich, weil das finanzkapital keine nationalen loyalitäten hat



 

What is the point of horror when real life is infinitely more horrifying? Your average horror film is like watching the Teletubbies compared to a Mexican cartel torture/execution video. And I don't mean just the violence and suffering, I mean the casualness and banality. Or, to use another example, picture the scene of Roman mining slaves being literally worked to death because the profits of the mines were so large that human life became not worth maintaining, a level of greed that is perhaps unmatched even today.

Was horror unironically invented by sheltered people? What is the analysis?
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AAAAHHHHH

Yeah bro going to work is fucking scary
Literal shivers down my spine

>>2579304
Horror’s point isn’t to be scarier than reality, it’s to let you safely feel the thrill of fear for a few hours because nobody wants to work in a fucking slave mine or have soldiers rape and murder their family just to feel scared


>>2579304
What's the point of any art or fiction when reality exists anon?
It is entertainment, it is escapism. Story telling has been a core part of human socialisation since the stone age.
Can you even begin to imagine a world where we're limited to only discussing or portraying the real world? It's not psychologically healthy to only think on heavy topics that happen in reality. But fiction can give us an adrenaline rush without the risk of such trauma.



 

>After destruction commences, the masses are going to emerge in all countries – in a short time, in a few hours. Capitalism cannot defend itself in an atomic war except by putting itself in caves and attempting to destroy all that it can. The masses, in contrast, are going to come out, will have to come out, because it is the only way to survive, defeating the enemy… The apparatus of capitalism, police, army, will not be able to resist… It will be necessary to organise the workers' power immediately

>One of the best-known positions of J. Posadas was his enthusiasm for nuclear war. More precisely, at the height of the Cold War, Posadas thought that nuclear war was inevitable. His idea was that rather than wait for the forces of capitalism, the nuclear-armed socialist states should launch a preemptive attack that would destroy the nuclear capabilities of capitalist countries. Additionally, he believed that this sort of catastrophe could spark the world revolution

Meds

>>2580089
Apparently Posadas never heard of radiation and nuclear winter

>>2580116
>radiation
cures CO2 pollution
>nuclear winter
reverses global warming

>>2580116
Most areas not directly hit by nukes would not have radiation levels high enough to be a direct threat beyond way higher cancer rates in the future, and most hit areas would go back to safer levels after 2 months. From his point of view nuclear winter would force the remaining humans to band together because they would be forced too in a post nuclear world for survival, because the only other option would be death. Though I don't understand how he thinks it would result in socialist communities forming after when I think things would just return to feudalism instead at that point.

>>2580089
Destroying the productive forces is something the capitalists do 🙄.
Communists support the development of the productive forces.



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Here is my thesis

When the USSR collapsed, its former territory and the entire former Warsaw Pact, treacherous scum that they were, should have been nuked. We live in a time where we still suffer the consequences of Soviet mercy. The USSR left our world, and in its wake was left dozens of fascist nations with hundreds of millions of Nazis buried within. The Soviet Union assumed 50 years of hegemonic rule wiped out the scourge that was hitlerism in the region but they failed; and Eastern E*roids seem beyond redemption. As such, lay waste to everything between Berlin and Moscow; nuke every square inch of it, luckily they have no real means to retaliate unlike the nuclear armed West. Modern hitlerism can be stopped in the here and now!

>>2579984
soviet union state welfare didn't do shit lmao

>>2579984
>Soviet mercy
lol lmao even

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>>2579984
EUchads gotchu covered

Its because the Slavs are ethnically reactionary. Specifically the Poles. The Oder-Neisse line was perhaps the greatest mistake of Stalin-era policy. All of Poland should have been partitioned between Belarus and Germany.

>>2579984
I warned you about nationalism bro but you didnt listen.
<what? you want me to support nationalist movements across the planet because anti-imperialism?
No thats exactly the opposite of what I said.
<got it. I will now dedicate yearsof my life shilling online for nationalism because its literally anti-imperialism



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