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 No.229202[Reply]

why the fuck did so many anti-colonial types in the 1920s and 30s collaborate with the axis powers what was their reasoning ?
inb4 they weren't really the true colonial types
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 No.230392

>>229264
The post merger leftypol ladies and gentlemen.
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 No.230509

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The KMT collaborated with the Nazis (although this also began during Weimar Germany) and some KMT officials looked toward German and Italian fascism as a model for China and against the British. But this relationship collapsed with the Japanese invasion of China, as Japan was also developing an alliance with Germany and Hitler decided to pick a side. Whoops.

>>229202
>inb4 they weren't really the true colonial types
The KMT were caught by their own class contradictions. After World War I, the European powers were on the back foot, and China rapidly developed some light industries providing cheap goods which benefited Europe. This also willed a proletariat into being (although most of the population were still peasants) who worked for the middle / national bourgeoisie who owned the light industries. These middle / national bourgeoisie wanted to build an independent China and make money in the process. The right-wing of the KMT were landlords and comprador bourgeoisie (who worked for foreign-owned firms) – the hated enemies of the communists, who also saw them as holding back development. The communists won over some of the middle bourgeoisie though by outflanking the KMT in terms of "nationalism" (you could say) and the development of things. Like, we get it, you're Chinese and you don't like the British or Japanese, and you want to build up China, so we'll let you help us develop China in exchange for supporting the revolution.

I still think that's the basic logic. If you're a capitalist, "we'll let you do business provided it accords with the party's long-term developmental goals," even if regulation is inconsistent or even if capitalism has just run of out control. I think that's "how they think" in any case.
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 No.230530

>>229202
The funny thing is, that Japan branded their imperialism as "anti colonial pan asianism"
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 No.230557

>>229209
This, in the end it was nationalism versus colonialism. Chandra Bose of India being a notable example, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini of Palestine and Rashid Ali of Iraq being two others. The Italians had hundreds of thousands of Eritreans and Somalians who fought alongside them.
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 No.230653

>>230530
The Chinese Trotskyists and Bose literally chose to work with Japan for this reason. It’s hilariously terrible.


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 No.217050[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

So it seems the raids triggered by the Do$$lars Foreign policy article are coming to an end and most of the /Pol/tards are self-deporting from this site. I think the question of whether debates are any good should be analysed.

At first it appeared to me that debates are actually useless, however An anon made a remark which made me re-examine my belief in that fact. The thing is that in every debate the /pol/yps were completely routed and had to resort to to claiming the Sources were Jewish. Okay you say, but they were not convinced so it's just a waste of time and energy.

<But the debates are not to convince the debatees but the audience.


>About ~20 debate threads were made

>However we saw an increase of around 200-300 IP's

Most of the /Pol/tards were simply watching the proceedings, and since a person who does not post is probably less ideologically committed, it means we probably planted some doubt in quite a few of their minds.

I would also like to draw attention to the fact that the leftover /pol/yps are engaging in good faith with us, and are not intransigent as the posters during their height. Who knows how many /Pol/yps seeing their arguments being BTFO'd have become more curious about Socialism.
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 No.230127

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>>217383
>Guys, by seeing several boring threads on this board I am deradicalised. Im now for letting in as many uyghurs as my country can handle, I think giving children hormonal blockers is a must and that men in skirts are the only valid women. I want to have my neghole pozzed so much now!
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 No.230130

>>217580
>try reading the Blank Slate
LOLOLOLOLOL
And you faggots have the gall to call us retards.
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 No.230144

>>228837
this assumes they even want to deradicalize you
if anything, they will only radicalize you further than you ever thought possible
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 No.230619

>>217951
only if you make them do
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 No.230625

>deradicalize
no, radicalization is good
agiatation is step one
>deracialize
this is the one
education is step two
make them understand their beef is with class not race


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 No.151233[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Any of us still left? Come share in the sadness.
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 No.229776

>>229756

Would you prefer to use something else?
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 No.229830

>>229721
Leftypol officially uses element.io, try the Element room.
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 No.230414

What do you Russian anons think of this channel? I found it and watched the videos with English subtitles, I was very pleasantly surprised. Explains important concepts in clear language and is supported by nice animations. I definitely recommend this, but I want to hear what you Russians think. From what I gather they call Khrushchev a counter revolutionary and they condemn the KPRF for coopting boomer nostalgia and outright supporting Putin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NtIiBjPsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZBYgMlPcI
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 No.230472

>>230414
Well, they are alright, but not the best. They often miss the mark with their explanations.

This channel si way better, for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtXX0Dnpjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHHR7MD82c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPHncu22Bk

Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AGpKkysczA
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 No.230548

>>230472
Shame that few of the videos you linked have English subtitles, so I can't watch em :( Thanks anyway for the last third one (and the others too ;)


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 No.225831[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

what conspiracies do you guys believe in, would you call yourself a conspiracy theorist also what do guys think of the trends of conspiracy theories that seemed to be prevalent in the 90s and 2000s ?
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 No.229956

>>226011
>There is possibly a borderline breakaway civilization they have with all the technology they are hoarding
Bioshock's Rapture
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 No.230111

The twin towers were hit by missiles with a 4th dimensional hologram covering them to make it seem like jets crashed into them, like a movie projector creating a scene on a flat wall.
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 No.230261

>>230111
Nah bro they were done by dimensionals in 3D to prevent nuclear war but it backfired so hard into opression that our timeline is considered worse than obilteration
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 No.230536

The jews do in fact heavily influence western, namely America, politics and America acts as a proxy for Israel.
I’m disgusted with how mindless the left in America is to this- they easily vilify the Koch brothers but not a bad single word is said about Sheldon Adelson or Paul Singer. No one discusses how jewish and zionist The National Review or Prager U is, but we’ll gladly lambast evangelicals to no end. The Nazis are right about one thing- the jews.
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 No.230545

The government is definitely covering up the negative side effects of vaccines and people are right to be suspicious about them even if it doesn’t necessarily cause autism.


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 No.125270[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Considerando la gran cantidad de habla que se ha generado de paises como Brasil, Venezeula, Bolivia, etc (y la ausencia de un hilo como este) he decidido hacer esto. En lo que se pobla de noticias, tópicos y otras cosas esto puede s er un AMA y tengo excusa para usar mi grado en historia puertorriqueña, caribeña y americana en buen uso. Tambien consideren esto un refugio para hablar español

Considering all the talk theres been about countries like Bolivia, Venezuela, Brazil, etc (and having no LatAm general thread in the frist place) I´ve decided to take the inciative and make one. While other topics get added and fill the thread consider this a sort of AMA where I can use my bachellors degree in puertorrican, caribbean, and american (the hemisphere) history.
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 No.230223

>>229498
>Los baisanos son mayoritariamente derechistas
Really? The place was made by leftists for leftists and "baisano" is sometimes used as an insulting way to call someone a leftist on another Spanish imageboard.
I haven't visited it much lately but if it truly became more right-wing I blame Nido's refugees after their admin killed himself.
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 No.230240

>>230223
It could be, I was just there recently and they were calling an anarchist a 17yo and crying about jews in the tech board. Sad what happened to it if this is true.
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 No.230248

>>229498
>>230223
Actually nevermind, I checked and it definitely has seen a surge in liberal/right-wing posts with the original leftist users complaining every time. That's a shame.
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 No.230484

>>223309
lmao esto es tan bizarro
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 No.230497

>>230484
En el sentido ingles de la palabra.

No podian haber llevado a Jackie Chan? O Steve queria visitar el caribe?


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 No.220040[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Guys, I think I just discovered the worst thing ever. The CIA is getting woke. Now they aren't just for mormons or anglo white guys who went to Yale/Harvard, they're for neoliberal latina girlbosses who #leanin while plotting coups.

Is this the future? will all imperialism be wokewashed in the future? If so I might have to kill myself
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 No.230097

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>>226909
>MUH MUH MUH /POL/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao kill yourself retard.
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 No.230115

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>>220575
>first pic
>the CIA has always been a communist organization
<the org that has literally been the greatest enemy to communism since its conception is actually communist.

How is it even possible to be this retarded?
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 No.230293

Transfacism is the future
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 No.230310

>>220467
I hate you because this is absolutely the future.
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 No.230316

Honestly I don't think their wokeness strategy will work, CIA is infamous for being a mormon old boys club that does warcrimes for fun. So far they have seen a whooping 1% increase in diversity.

t. a woke person


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 No.200478[Reply]

Since most of the ideologies (even rightoid ideologies) have their own threads, how about we have a thread for one of our lesser known flags, Christian Anarchism/Communism. Not many people know this, but Christ/the Buddha was effectively one of the first anarchists ever since the creation of class hierarchies cast mankind out of pre-fall communism and into the fallen world of class society. As the deceiver of mankind, destroyer of the world, oppressor of humanity, and consumer of life, Capital reveals itself as the force known as Satan, whose personification appears currently as the American Empire and the world order it reigns over. As communists and anarchists fight for liberation and life, they are clearly bound in a holy struggle to save humanity’s soul, which is also why prior to the postmodern anti-thought communists were willing to die for what they believe in.

So let’s discuss liberation theology
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 No.228661

one more
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 No.228664

>>228510
You sure on that? Greco-Buddhism was in situated in location where modern Afghanistan and Pakistan are today not in the Mediterranean. If that variant didn't even spread how did full on Buddhism make it's way to Rome and why have I not heard of this before? Did Buddhism have any impact on Catholicism as result or was it too small for it to give impact? I've not heard of the Germanic tribes worshipping Egyptian gods before only having heard of how Greeks, Romans and Egyptians shared gods and how this later had lead to the emurgence of Hermeticism.

>>228563
But if someone is caught up in focusing on understanding themselves wouldn't that be hindered by not also framing that as understanding one's role in society and how it influences them? Where do you see the connection between Eastern philosophy and Christian Gnosticism?
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 No.229010

Kingdom of heaven is communism and the capitalist class is the antichrist.
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 No.230294

>>225560
>he also thinks God created people with an immortal soul that he predestines to Hell to burn forever because he simply hates them

This is controversial. Calvin didn't believe that God actively elected people to die, only that he actively elected those who would go to heaven. To Calvin, salvation was an active act of God, and death was the passive default.


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 No.65852[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post links to good and classpilled left wing youtube, podcasts, etc. no radlibs, grifters, and breadtube liberals
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 No.200412

>>168800
is this catgirl drawgirl or naw?
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 No.216252

>>200381
damn i didn't check
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 No.230265

When did Dialectical Vegan Egoist became such a Dengoid?
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 No.230269

>>230265
after reading hegel
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 No.230274

>>230269
>"muh sublation"
For real though


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 No.224692[Reply]

This is a thread to discuss Maoism Third Worldism, the only form of socialism that recognizes that the First World is hopelessly mired in reaction and that revolution can therefore only come from the Third World. Question: When did you first realize that Maoism Third Worldism is correct?
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 No.225728

>>225681
No. But the quality of life will get significantly worse. An empire in decline is a big opportunity, and "third worldists" discouraging socialists from actively organizing is not helping. Even if it is impossible, why shouldnt we try? Why not at least cause some problems in the belly of the beast and have them wast their attention and resources? I dont understand the third worldist argument at all.
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 No.225879

>>225728
>But the quality of life will get significantly worse.
<Source: Dude trust me

>An empire in decline is a big opportunity

An empire in decline doesn't automatically mean living standards take a nosedive. Just look at the collapse of the British Empire, for example. The period in which the British Empire collapsed (1945-1997) was also a period of unprecedented prosperity for the British people.
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 No.225885

If you're white, you can't be a socialist. Simple as.
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 No.225907

>>225889
This entire thread is nothing but an id/pol/ shitpost. That tiny turd I pushed out makes no difference to it. The OP as well everyone who thinks like this should all kill themselves.
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 No.230271

>>224935
Are you still working on these effortposts


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 No.230112[Reply]

What did CPUSA mean by this?
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 No.230469

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>>230146
>a vanguard party shouldn't be a legal organization
lmao
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 No.230501

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>>230220
>It means that they are making the prudent decision to keep their official organization entirely within legal boundaries.
This is where they fucked up. Bourgeois constitutional regimes are inherently structured to protect private property against the will of the people, via the judiciary, executive branch vetoes, bicameral legislature, standing army, etc. This is doubly true for the US constitution, which only became the object of religious worship after the first red scare in the leadup to the Russian Revolution. This is why believing that "it is possible to create and build a fundamentally new economic system using the provisions of the existing U.S. Constitution" is fundamentally wrong. A real revolutionary party should campaign for legislative seats, yes, but at every moment point out that real social reforms can only be achieved if the anti-democratic bourgeois legal regime is abolished. With genuine majority support for your party's aims, and consequently a large base of support in the armed forces, people will realize that the constitutional order stands in the way and transcend it.

Instead of this revolutionary party structure that took power in Russia and nearly did so in Germany in 1917-19, most of the left is stuck between two ineffectual poles: reformist parties, and insurrectionist parties. Reformist parties, like the UK Labour party and the CPUSA here, openly proclaim that they will abide by and not question Porky's legal regime. "Democratic socialism" here is usually code for constitutional loyalism. Reformists won major social reforms from 1920-1970, but that was because they were supported by the bourgeois order as a bulwark against revolutionary change. After that, the reformist left became impotent because the revolutionary left had become impotent, becoming what I like to call insurrectionist parties. This includes open minority terrorism like the Red Army Faction, but also the "mass action left" which boycotts electoralism in favor of street strikes and protests, and Comintern style "Leninist" parties, which uphold an anti-democratic internal regime to give the decades-long leadership room to maneuver. Instead of these, we need to combine reforms and revolution - to give a Kautsky quote praised by Lenin, "a revolutionary party, not a party that makes revolutions" (insurrectioniPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.230534

>>230220
CPUSA shouldn't portray itself as a peace only party if it also wants to portray itself as the vanguard party of the proletarian revolution, lying and confusing the masses by claiming peaceful revolution will ever be possible is only playing into the hands of porky and making that hypothetical revolutionary situation even more impossible
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 No.230656

>>230534
based. riots and murders when?
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 No.230853

Right wing predecessor SPUSA is more radical than CPUSA. The DSA is more radical than SPUSA.

The SWP, who supports and encourages aligning with the Oath Keepers, are still to the Left of CPUSA and they’re more active in supporting international AES states like Cuba too. CPUSA is just a terrible organization now filled with liberals.


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