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 No.976710[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

post examples of Wikipedia glowing

* glowie rhetoric/rightoid cope on the talk pages
* sus revision histories
* bizarre rightoid editors
* right wing articles with no leftist counterpart
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 No.1023079

>>978104
I followed the github's intrusctions, yet i couldn't get it to work.

 No.1023262

This is not very relevant to this thread but I really hate this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology. 80% of the text is basically "waaah this has not been epically objectively scientifically proved and if are interested in this stuff you are a dangerous fundamentalist conspiracy theorist". The article is even locked. Like, shut the fuck up and let people believe in the Yeti you joyless nerds, who cares.

 No.1043807

bumping ebin fred

 No.1043888

>>1023262
nobody's disallowing your yeti belief. sorry the article is honest about cryptozoozoo being bunk



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 No.1034683[Reply]

list all the happenings happening atm or recently:

Covid

Ukraine

Roe V Wade

Ecuador Riots

Election of Pedro

da rise of da chinese

Election of BONG BONG marcos
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>>1034715
I think the worst is yet to come for the region.

 No.1042341

>>1034683
>Election of Pedro
He he

 No.1043765

Chinese markets hit a fall today.

Could be temporary. Maybe not.

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>>1042341
holy fuck I lived long enough for the meme to become real… and old enough that I didn't even see it… blind…. BLIND

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 No.1026884[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I had my misgivings about Zizek's willingness to shit on communism in his debate with Jordan Peterson, but look at this fucking travesty of liberal cowardice. Can't see him recovering from this one.
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 No.1037145

is anyone going to make an attempt to explain why he wrote of these guardian articles other than saying "his political writing has always been like this" which it obviously hasn't and that's why people are shocked by the guardian articles and not the stuff he published in RT?

 No.1037584

>>1037145
apparently he voiced support for NATO bombing his own country in the 90s, which if true means this isn't really surprising. he rarely writes about international relations

 No.1042067

>>1034850
>America should still withdraw from NATO
Do Ziggaz really think this?

 No.1042084

USA pulling out of NATO makes about as many sense as nazi Germany pulling out of the Anti-Comintern Axis.

 No.1043764

based Mottas shitting on Zizek.

>No, Slavoj Žižek is neither a Marxist nor a radical philosopher. He isn't a lunatic who expresses nonsense just because he wants to draw attention. On the contrary, he is a very well-read apologist of capitalist barbarism and a conscious anti-communist. As such, he vilifies the 20th century's socialism, he shamelessly attacks Lenin and promotes, either openly or covertly, the murderous imperialist alliance of NATO. Even when he pretends to defend communism, Žižek does it only in words, as an abstract theoretical issue, deliberately separating it from its social and political field of application.


http://www.idcommunism.com/2022/07/slavoj-zizek-apologist-of-capitalism-disguised-as-marxist-philosopher.html?m=1

Reminder that once again Marxist-Leninists have always called Zizek a fraud and anticommunist cretin. And we've been proven right, again.

Death to Zizek and his acolytes.



 No.213976[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.1040411

Caught corona again, so this thread is once more relevant. Last timeI had it was September last year. Still have my sense of taste and smell, but feel like absolute shit. Double-vaxxed (last year), but looks like it didn't help. Feel way worse than first time, 21 days after 2nd vaxx dose.

Every bone in my body aches, coughing fits leave my throat sore, keep blowing my nose. I thought it was the flu, because this is how a flu feels for me, but PCR says corona. Probably omicron or something after. My eyes hurt, I want to sleep but I can't, I've been in a delirium between wakefulness and sleep since yesterday.

Caught it at a punk festival this weekend. Who would've thought partying and moshing for three days straight with no sleep on weed, speed and beer with hundreds of punks all over Europe in a crowded, mostly closed and unventilated venue could have given me corona?!

But at least I'm good for the summer. Plus I got a week off work, nobody doubts the corona.

>>1025744
>>1025744
did you have adhd/depression before covid?

 No.1040439

>>1040411
>did you have adhd/depression before covid?
Depression yes, but adhd no. Although adhd maybe is exaggerating it and I only lack motivation.

 No.1040442

>>1040411
The reinfection of covid are gonna be brutal to some people, even the young. We will pray for your lungs.

 No.1040451

>>1040439
I used to think I had depression, turns out it was ADHD.
>>1040442
So far it has been a dry, heaving cough. I heard you have lung problems if they fill with liquid.

 No.1043746

>>1040411
Good luck comrade, uncritical support for your immune system against roundboi imperialism.



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 No.1033384[Reply]

EVERYTHING that's happening in burgerland has a precedent somewhere in the world

Freedom Convoy? Brazil did the exact same thing last year
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Pro-Bolsonaro-Truckers-Block-Roads-in-Brazil-20210908-0009.html

Roe v Wade? Poland banned abortion in 2020 and had its largest protests since Solidarnosc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020-2021_women's_strike_protests_in_Poland

BLM fuckery? Late 10s citizen protests with anti-police overtones were a quite a thing in places such as France, Hong Kong, or Chile


The US has extended its hegemony so much over the world that now it's biting them back. They are where all contradictions meet
I'd say if you want to know how the Burger collapse will look like just look at global trends

For example i'd say there will be a financial crisis like in Lebanon and Sri Lanka not far from now. I only don't know to what extent
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 No.1037796

>>1037793
…and how impactful it was. It is a sign of Democrat takeover in the US. How woke capitalists are winning, and the older ones losing.

 No.1037800

>>1037799
ok /pol/ fuck Langley and fuck its imperialist ventures

 No.1038690

>>1035190
banning abortion is supposed to combat degeneracy not raise birth rate

 No.1043686

>>1038690
speaking of which
Is Burgerland on its path to becoming a theocracy just like the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan???

 No.1043706

>>1033384
"The future shows itself first in the periphery" or something like that.



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 No.957578[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

ULTRA GENERAL
Hate capitalism? Hate fellow "communists" just as much? Big fan of great and authentic revolutionaries? Do you have extremely opinionated takes on obscure sectarian struggles within the early Italian Communist Party? Then boy, this is the thread for you!

>Left-Communist Reading List

https://jovial-perlman-b35199.netlify.app/

>/r/bruhinternational Reading List

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bruhinternational/comments/m53hon/official_rbruhinternational_reading_list/

>ICP Website (great web design)

https://www.international-communist-party.org/

<NOTE: Thread is open to any and all discussion of tendencies that fall under the "leftcom" umbrella. Camattist anarcho-cavemen are welcome

yes, I know ultra and leftcom are retarded terms that don't represent a real tendency
And yes, I am bringing Bordiga memes from the dead
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 No.1022340

>>1022303
If you want to talk about destitution, there are a lot of homeless people in developed nations who own mobile phones. Certainly more than there are homeless people who live in cars, which is a significant amount. Just to give one example, a study from 2017 of homeless adults in the US indicates that 94% percent of homeless people own a cell phone of some kind, and 86% own one with an android operating system (a modern mobile phone). 51% of homeless adults reported using their cell phone to access the internet. These things really aren't that expensive. As for uber drivers and most forms of precarious gig work, personal mobile phone ownership is a requirement for the job to receive instructions from the gig work platform.
>They aren't, the proletariat have nothing between their survival and destitution besides the markets demand for their labour, this makes them incapable of really deluding themselves with things like ideology. Ideology is primarily taken up by the middle class. People who live on the edge of destitution do not spend all day on the internet
What do you think people do when their workday ends?

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>>1022201
good post

 No.1022880

>>1022340
>What do you think people do when their workday ends?
Well they don't go on reddit

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 No.1043678

>>957578
Are leftists genuinely unaware of modern communization theory discourse, or do they just block it out in favor of ML/Bordiga/Trotsky memeing because of how bleak it is?

Endnotes, Phil Neel, and Joshua Clover feel like they give far clearer and more persuasive accounts of contemporary capitalism and class struggle, although the subtext that traditional forms of struggle are dead or ineffective and all we have are riots and affinity groups is depressing (and obviously not helpful for your average Trot sect or DSA chapter).



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 No.987317[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What is the reason for Singapore's post-colonial success with their capitalist model combined with a lot of government intervention? What differentiates Singapore from other capitalist countries and if Singapore's model is superior, why isn't it adopted by other countries, such as the capitalist ones that praise it?
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 No.1007402

>>1007036
nice bait

 No.1007406

>>1007373
>is the entire internet now either communist or /pol/right/naziturd or woke transhumanist liberal?
yes sir, welcome to polarization

 No.1007425

>>1007406
>yes sir, welcome to polarization
i weep, anon

 No.1007427

>>1007425
wipes away tear
it's for the best, anon

 No.1043674

>>987317
>Singapore should just be absorbed into a bigger (socialist) country.
why are some posters in this board pro-annexation? NOt only in this thread but also here >>1016650



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 No.1028529[Reply]

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 No.1043034

>>1042906
Yes, the calculation problem is a meme. It has always been about the actual computability, the actual processing power required to plan an economy, which was genuinely impossible at the time. Even Mises conceded that planning using labor values instead of money was possible, just not feasible with the technology that existed at the time. Today, we put more powerful computers in children's toys than the Soviet Union had access to; raw processing power is not a problem. Modern loberts will move the goalposts and say that actually, it's less about the computation, and more about the information gathering, which is just a cope; keeping electronic records of inputs and outputs and demands and stocks and whatever else are all basically solved problems for companies like Amazon, it's just a matter of applying those soultions to the whole economy.

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>>1042906
You can plan for a country the size of China within seconds with a supercomputer (you don't need a supercomputer)

 No.1043202

>>1043034
>>1043064
Makes sense, honestly it's kind of depressing I feel like we already have the technology and resources to build a much better society but are stuck with markets and other obsolete shit . So much unnecessary suffering and poverty in the world

 No.1043472

>>1042734
>Or are they doing labor vouchers + ecological ration points.
No, that's a half-baked idea that has been floated in these threads.

I believe labor-time accounting already takes in ecological constraints to some extent, whether the planners are aware of that or not. So first, we should try to get an awareness of how much normal labor-time accounting already does before we add in modifications. Suppose there are two processes for producing a thing:
-process 1, which requires little labor and pollutes a lot
-process 2, which is a labor-intensive green process
and both processes are in use. There is some regulatory constraint on how much of these polluting processes we can use. The labor-time cost calculation for the thing is then just the aggregated cost of these two processes, which then gets divided equally among the units produced for a unit's equilibrium price. Suppose we want to increase the total output of these things and because of the pollution regulations we only increase the units made by process 2, it follows from this that the equilibrium price is raised.

Pollution will be felt in one way or another. I mean, why do we pollute at all, just for the love of pollution? No, we pollute to save labor. We can look at the amount of pollution we have decided to allow and treat it as an input in planning to be used in a way to save as much labor as possible. It's not necessary to add a special process to reflect this in some way in the prices consumers face.

 No.1043563

>>1042856
they also use webex. as a FOSS guy that is cause for concern
>>1042813
interesting concept. I had a similar idea except doing it over a longer time period
>>1042734
>it's not clear to me how they keep the price of commodities as actual labor-time content
opportunity costs are only used in planning, not in the pricing of goods. or that's the gist I got from Dapprich's thesis
>Or are they doing labor vouchers + ecological ration points
not as far as I can tell, but that is certainly one option. this ties into the remuneration problem
>>1043472
I've had this exact thought. I think Dapprich's opportunity costs are unnecessary for dealing with climate "cost" since an increase in the value of climate-hostile goods just falls out of the constraints. but they can be useful for working out what MoPs to invest in. it's not the only way however
CO2 emissions also incur a labour cost in themselves since labour has to be directed to sequestration
one reason to use a ration system is if only so much of a thing can be made. then labour values are not enough if everyone who needs that thing is to get it, since someone can forego consumption of other goods and get more of that scarce good



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 No.211966[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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 No.1042739

>>1042726
that's a simplistic take, they took a middle road

 No.1042754

>>1042739
Middle between what?

 No.1042797

>>1042754
NATO and Warsaw Pact, obviously

 No.1042803

>>1040843
the marshall plan also wasn't gibs, it was america giving loans to western europe in exchange for power and exploiting future profits

 No.1043558

>>1042797
Eh they leaned closer to the warsaw pact, understandable given the circumstances pf course



 No.1024595[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Since this community is primarily composed of westerners, discussions of religion and spirituality often concentrates on christianity, while buddhism is often ignored. However, buddhism has a lot of relevance in the history of communism in Asia, and even today the Dalai Lama still openly calls himself a marxist.

However, what really interests me is whether buddhist practice makes people less or more revolutionary. Speaking from experience, buddhist practice made my life much more peaceful, instead of being angry at the system, I let go and accept the reality. By accepting it I don't mean that I support it, but that I simply understand that this is the way things are and that me being angry won't change anything, or will it?

Also, I think buddhism has the potential of making people more leftist. For example:
> The emphasis on thinking about interdependence along with meditation practice, which makes your preconceived notions fade away, opens people to realise the truth about capitalism
> the eightfold path includes right livelihood, which forces people to think whether the way they make money is exploitative of others or not
> The main driver behind capitalism, greed, is the first of the three poisons, one of the Buddhas teachings

ITT: Buddhism and socialism
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 No.1042943

>>1041561
Pacifism is certainly a spook. I think it's mostly connected to their metaphysics. Samsara, rebirth, Boddhisattvas. Cut it off and they will lose pacifism. Just give them Stirner and Nietzsche to read, that should help. What I noticed is that Buddhists change their minds after reading Stirner and Nietzsche which suggests to me that they cannot refute the presented counter-arguments which is an interesting observation.

 No.1042951

>>1042943
Then again, some Stirnerites like Emile Armand were pacifists so it's rather complicated.

 No.1043001

>>1042465
I think anticommunist clergy being killed is funny. Don't you?

 No.1043393

>>1041760
not mutually exclusive
>>1043001
blood thirsty larpers face the wall

 No.1043475

>>1043393
Grow a spine, buddhist idiot. When you're dealing with anticommunists, as all clergy are, you have to be harsh.
As I said, Bolsheviks killed buddhists like Ungern Sternberg for good reason. Religion has nothing to offer the proletariat.



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