/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

inb4 america attacks rojava, the region they helped for like 10 years

Idk if this is true but found it

I don’t think there was any attacks like this on Russian convoys after 2015 or 2016. Hope USians enjoy their new goyslave chimps lol

>>2595307
The US has never helped DAANES as a political entity, tbf, only the attached armed coalition in regards to fighting isis.

Attacker info:
>-Belonged to the Islamic State in 2014 and worked in security at the al-Ayn Hospital in Aleppo
<-Moved to al-Raqqa and after its fall in 2017 moved to the Homs badiyah region
>-After the fall of the regime, he moved from the desert to Idlib with a group of IS members
<-He joined the General Security in Idlib and was assigned to Palmyra
>-The attacker tried to reach the meeting room in the headquarters of the General Security in Palmyra
<-In the corridor he clashed with the American guards and the translator and blew himself up
>-Afterwards, Syrian intelligence along with the Coalition forces arrested six IS elements that also infiltrated the General Security, accused of coordinating the operation with the attacker
<-These other six were from the IS cell that moved with him from the desert to the General Security in Idlib
>-There are hundreds like this cell that have infiltrated General Security

>>2595185
cope germans and anglos will be migrating to poland for jobs soon geeeg

>>2595218
no they won't
thirdies from countries that kvetch about poland ditching warsaw pact however will in droves

>"Every provocateur or madman who dares to lift his hand against the power of People's Poland will have that hand chopped off."
ZOMO chads get in here

>>2596366
DSA's worst nightmare
Sorry sweetie but this is what dictatorship of the proletariat looks like <3

>>2594954
>>2596366

Patriot 🫡

If only the Generals of the Red Army, which beared the noble responsibility of keeping the wise Dictatorship of the Proletariat mighty and the beautiful fire of October lit through ages grim had such a decisiveness and courage back then and acted as early as possible against the traitorous elements of the bourgeouis restoration!
https://youtu.be/3UhsYO9GsHA

>>2596221
Bernie is worse than Hitler.

>>2595082
Use the electoral system to elect a strong, charismatic leader who then has a mandate to govern the people in their interest.

>>2596278
>the people
you mean corporations

>>2596229
He would still continue the evils of AmeriKKKa but he was clearly the least harmful possible option for Americans and the world at large.

wdym what are we supposed to do? agitate, educate, organize. figure it out how to do this for your conditions. i mean, tell me, what else do you think is there to "do"? (beside produce surplus and live in class society)

>>2593507
>it's emotion first, and everything else is rationalization.
Yep. You summed it quite well actually. Much of what the right intrinsically understands and plays to is ingrained (group) beliefs that dictate behavior.

In my country (America) there are a lot of people who are just defiantly mean and respect viciousness. Nick Fuentes says he's a 27-year-old virgin who has never had sex? Well, look around. A lot of white males have either dismal sex lives or no sex lives at all. No dates worth remembering, no romance worth reliving. There's a weird and toxic mix of anomie, cowardice, thwarted expectations, shame, and a feeling of wretchedness running throughout this country which run directly into the right-wing camp, and also quite naturally leads to a desire for spite and vengeance against anyone who they do perceive as enjoying their lives and having sex (i.e. people such as yourself). They want to see people like you suffer while impaled on a stake.

What if terrorists got ahold of several nuclear bombs and detonated them simultaneously in the middle of Los Angeles and Manhattan? These guys would finally have a real chance at feeling empowered. Think of this guy from the movie Escape From L.A. and it's not that far removed from what's going on inside the mind of such a person when they're deep inside REM sleep.

>>2557837
>hey gay nazi poster whats your take on douglas murray? how would you classify him as a right wing gay in politics?
Hey sorry, I missed this but, yeah I think so. Neocon. I'd describe him as a neocon.

He wants to be Christopher Hitchens except Hitchens wasn't a Zionist (he never went that far). He very clearly is trying to model himself after Hitchens. He's a particularly English type of right-wing gay. What he has working for him is a very well patented "style." I can't explain it but his method works to lull people into a certain mindset, and he has certain tricks, some of which he directly lifted off of Hitchens. It's in the intonation of the voice and certain tropes, like he went to Israel to pose for photos somewhere in Gaza, but he wasn't in any real danger. Then he'd criticize people who don't like Israel by saying that ~he actually went there~ and he's old-fashioned like that, as if that gives him some special insight (this is bullshit for several reasons I can go into).

He will name-drop people which makes his audience feel sophisticated. When talking about antisemitism he will quote Vasily Grossman (who served in the Red Army during World War II btw), and Grossman did have real insights on it. Grossman was not wrong about what he said. But Murray will redirect this towards support for Israel and I don't know what Grossman would think about that. At any rate I think the average Douglas Murray fan is mroe affluent. The opera-house crowd I think. There's a Sam Kriss article about him that's pretty good:
https://samkriss.substack.com/p/douglas-murray-gruesome-toady

But I would say this brand of neoconservative can be attractive to gay men because it's articulated within this framework of liberalism and the European Enlightenment which has been (they argue) beneficial for you.

>>2594853
Thanks for the response.
I’d never made the link that Murray is trying to copy Hitchens, but it makes perfect sense. He has the plummy public school accent so beloved by people. Even Brits fall for it all the time (see Jacob Rees-Moggs, a fake aristocrat, but wear a monocle and top hat and a copy of the FT, and some people go gaga, and it’s not even people you expect)

hitchens anti zionism is very interesting because on the one hand it's quite logical (Zionists get mocked all the time for mocking religion, but suddenly believe the Bible when it comes to land claims), but doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest of the New Atheists, or neocons who were rabid supporters of the Israel project? I wonder if his stance on Israel would have changed over time had he lived?
Would he increasingly see Tehran as an overarching threat? The increasingly role of religion in the Palestinian resistance? The rise of isis in the Syrian war?

>>2593507
>if you try to question right wingers about their beliefs, and i mean, really interrogate them, don't give them any breathing room, you'll realize that most of the are really just nihilists.
trvke

>>2595285

A >real movement vs a state of affairs.
they are obviously saying that historical attempts were not genuine to the real movement.

Who says this? All communist parties or the KKE? You need to write in a clearer way in order to communicate to us what you intend the subject of sentence to be.

In any case this is false in both instances. Many communist parties believe the attempts were genuine, including the KKE (Until perestroika in the USSR with preceding degeneration from the kosygin-liberman reform & the 90s in China, with preceding degeneration being the 1980s deng reforms)

>keyword:had, they dispute that China is currently continuing to build

Indeed, and I agree with them. The current economy is capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector; The central planning authority (which isn't even called that anymore) does not issue decrees which have force of law, enterprises overwhelmingly make their own investment, supply chain & pricing decisions (ie. The Chinese economy is structurally
less centrally planned than mcdonalds corporation is internally). And this was not always the case: Things degenerated & capitalism was restored.

>its still wrong from a materialist perspective
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>>2595502
>capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector
this is largely short selling how it works, the state and its SOEs not only keep controlk of the backbone of the economy, but also has massive finance capitals investment that isnt directed by capitalist logic, but directed according to planning and social value under direction from the party. Theres a reason they call this socialist market economy, just cause it use a market doesnt mean theres no planning and politically enforced top down direction. Quite simply finance capital is not free but completely subordinated to political will.
Is that risky from marxist standpoint, as it could degenerate into purely capitalist logic without a strong political hand? yes, but it certainly seem to work right now

>>2595502

>The current economy is capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector
yeah, other anon is correct. they dont have direct state quotas for all sectors of the economy, so its not micromanaged like the soviet model. that doesn't mean they dont have central planning. the party controls the commanding heights of the economy and directs production of raw resources, then lets market competition distribute them according to demand. so if they need houses they put out jobs for concrete and steel, rather than directly building the houses. and this goes all across the economy, once things become socially necessary or strategically important through the natural capitalist development of a sector, it consolidates into a monopoly, and it becomes nationalized and democratically directed. until then the fact that their is competition is exactly a signal that it is not ready for nationalization. and yes this sounds exactly like what liberals say, and it is premised on something like a rising tide lifting all boats, but with china its actually true and with liberals its a scam to take your stuff.

>what is not understood by (nearly everyone?) in these 'debates' is that they are using the same word but they mean something quite different by it.
no thats perfectly understood. im not saying that all capitalist states dont have capitalist interests, they certainly do, im saying from marxist(materialist) perspective this is an incorrect definition of imperialism because it does not center how imperialism is socially reproduced through economic production. its not "wrong" but it is practically(praxis) useless

>In neoclassical economics, monopoly is generally considered the opposite of competition.
thats what im saying, thats what lenin says
>In Marxism however, monopoly is actually a form of competition under capitalism,
no? unless you are talking about interimperialist rivalry but thats not *market* competition

>alan_freeman
isnt this one of those tssi guys that takes bohm bawarks critique of marx on the economic calculation problem(which doesn't exist) at face value and try to "correct" marx by demonstrating his own misunderstanding of ltv?
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but really, imperialism, when a marxist says it, is specifically extraterritorial expansion driven by the falling rate of profit as monopoly consolidation leads to stagnation when technological improvement is saturated across the supply chain in a given legal territory. the critique is not that its incorrect to say that capitalists do capitalist things, its that imperialism is a specific stage of national capitalist development, and saying that capitalists doing capitalist things is imperialism, in order to advocate specific universal policies(both sides bad) based on that incorrect definition of imperialism and dogmatically apply defeat of every bourgeois government in all wars, that is wrong, and that is incorrect. its opportunist phrasemongering

>>2572106
What's the difference between anti-communism and just bad/dumb communism? I think the context determines what's people being regressive and intentionally obtuse vs people who need to be educated or struggled with to get back to a correct line. Either way yes western marxism (which emphasizes the abstract concept of exploitation, as if alienation of your surplus labor wouldn't still need to happen in socialism, since it is what allows growth and upkeep) is bad.

>>2596075
yes but the dprk is weak and somewhat isolated. Russia is stronger but not that strong.
Prc is very strong and would be able to win. Thus prc is our only hope

>>2596075
>this place unironically thinks North Korea is a socialist utopia
Bro. Like China I can understand the logic but. Dude.

>>2595704
>The capitalist class will totally betray humanity.
Rest of humanity. Its almost game over now with predictive capabilities used by glowuyghurs. Its completely game over when police and military are automated.

>>2596075
>Russia because they don't have the tech to do robotic replacement in the near future
Theyll have to submit to Chinese rule or wither away.

>>2596093
NK is heavily militarized in a mountainous region full of extensive underground bunkers and armed with nukes. They have a better chance of surviving than most places.

none of those things will help them at all. you can't dismantle an unjust institution with conventional warfare, it requires an intricate and complex long-term strategy of subversion on a systemic scale.

>>2594782
Seeing Dubai chocolate get shilled in every store makes me sick.

>>2595440
You can do both.
Slave revolts lead to instability in the system and is a demonstration of opposition (which emboldens further opposition).

>>2594934
>>2594930
>>2594920
he doesn't go to DPRK, he just goes to the DMZ. boring. he also shills DPRK defector bullshit at the end.
>>2594782
speaking DPRK, this video is pretty good, except for what he calls dubai "north korea with a gucci belt." somebody needs to redpill this kid on DPRK and what they went through, and how, no, it is not literally a US-allied monarchist theocracy with slaves… and DPRK's poverty is because of sanctions.

UAE needs to be destroyed

>>2595173
Appointed and endorsed more zionists

Why is so much of leftypol dedicated to demotivation?

The unreal amount of butthurt Mamdani causes in neoliberal MSM, among zionists as well as among anti-communist reactoids of all sorts speaks for him. If i'd live in the USA i would support him doing his lukewarm demsoc thing for a while, cause succdem/demsoc or whatever it's called is still much better for working class interests than anything what burgers usually get when they vote, especially when there's not a strong ML vanguard around. There's enough time for harsh criticism later, if need be.

>>2595900
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>>2554892
I literally cannot find a source or context for this quote

>>2568676
>"Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine
I'm not sure I follow.

>>2568483
>They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China.
once again, you're acting like that's a mutually exclusive explanation. America outsourced BECAUSE they got outcompeted, and America's reserve currency strategy dictated letting this problem get worse because they followed an import based strategy rather than an export based strategy. Past declining empires like the British and Dutch made similar mistakes. The reserve currency thing isn't a meme. These problems all feed into each other. Imperial core capitalists also become seekers of interest and rent, rather than profit, through the process of financialization, which is another reason the industrial base in the imperial core declines. You win power by being more productive, but then once you're at the top you refuse to stay productive, and instead rest on your imperialist laurels, seeking rent and interest, outsourcing production, letting up-and-coming nations outcompete you, and letting money printer go Brrrr because you think you can coup and sanction everyone to death forever.

>>2565792
>You are accusing capitalists of acting capitalistically
nygha WHAT

>Mayor Mamdani Unleashes the Wrath of Khan

Investment professionals who work on Wall Street may be in need of grief counseling—or at least a hug and a strong drink—as they try to cope with the fallout from November’s New York City mayoral election. It is not just that self-proclaimed democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani will soon occupy the Mayor’s office; it is also that he appointed former Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Chair Lina Khan to his transition team. Khan’s tenure at the FTC was marked by the abandonment of the “consumer welfare standard,” which judges a business's actions by how they affect consumers—which is the way businesses succeed or fail in the free market.

The consumer welfare standard guided antitrust policy from the Reagan years until the Biden presidency. Khan and her allies replaced it with a throwback to the “big is de facto bad” approach to antitrust policy. Khan also promoted what she called “holistic” antitrust which justified government intervention to stop—or at least delay—almost every merger, acquisition, or other business action that would have increased a company's market share, regardless of the impact on consumers.

During Khan's tenure as FTC Chair, the agency filed a record number of challenges to mergers, with a particular focus on the threat of “big tech.” Khan’s war against successful businesses made her a progressive superstar and public enemy number one among free-market conservatives, as well as centrist Democrats and the business community. For example, CNBC commentator and financial advisor Jim Cramer called Khan a “one woman wrecking crew.” Now, Khan will be influencing policy in the financial capital of the world.

Khan, speaking at a Pod Save America event, said that her work in the transition team was focusing on things like taking a full accounting of all of the laws and authorities that the mayor can unilaterally deploy. Reviewing rarely used laws was something Khan did while running the FTC. For instance, under her leadership, the FTC renewed its practice of sending “notices of penalty offenses.” These notices are sent to warn companies that they might be violating antitrust law. Until Khan's appointment, the FTC had not sent any such notices since 1999. During Khan’s tenure, the FTC issued thousands of them.

Khan also revived the Robinson-Patman Act. This New Deal-era law makes it illegal for distributors to offer discounts to large Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2595742
>elie wiesel's son
Continuing daddy's grift huh

https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/10/21/truth-and-fiction-in-elie-wiesels-night/

>>2553122
I lowk don’t know what you want a nation of 348ish million people to do exactly, labor movements are trying to get started right now and people are doing what they physically can.

>>2560963
>They can just build army and do that now though
How?