/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Lenin himself was obsessed with the emergence of new media and its uses for popular propaganda purposes. He would probably smack your face for writing such petit bourgeois drivel that is ultimately rooted in idealist cultural pessimism.

>>2577446
marx was a revisionist

>>2577570
yeah, he revised utopian socialism into scientific socialism.

>>2577835
Labour vouchers are for retards of course I don't mean that

>>2577801
You are dancing around the question. Concretely, how will a person involve himself in production? What social relations, are involved in the organisation and process of production?

I like Marx and Engels of course, but what you are doing is saying what attributes could describe communism. Like saying capitalism is exploitive, highly corrupt etc.
How does production actually happen? Under capitalism it is private property, wage labourers produce goods to exchange on the market for which they are reimbursed their own cost of reproduction.

>>2577836
>>2577841
chatbot or zero reading comprehension?

>>2577843
Wants to discuss actual social relations of communism productive organization and not just basic principles, must be bot.

God you are worse than reddiors

WTF is that first reply.
>>2573875
>Marx decisively made sure to never leave a direct manifesto on what to do, it should be noted however he derided labor notes
Marx and Engels literally wrote the Communist Manifesto (with ten points (quoted by >>2577801) and they were tentatively in favor of labor notes, as can be inferred from Critique of the Gotha Programme (quoted by >>2576132) as well as a few other comments ("no more “money” than a ticket" - Volume I "These vouchers are not money" - Volume II).

But Benis in Bagina :DDD

>>2576614
DUDE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO CHINA YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO HONG KONG. I HAVE. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL. I HATE YOU FUCKING WESTERNERS KILL YOURSELF.

>>2577796
>been to
Lmao, tourist.

>>2530139
in socialism there is even less reason to criminalize drug use, the problems of drug use spreading through a population will always be less severe than the power struggle between the people selling those drugs illegally.

also life under socialism will be better, people may be able to experiment with drugs from curiosity and not from a desire to cope from the shittyness of life

>>2507952
in my state we're back to smoke shops just selling 4sub tryptamines like its the 2000s or sum shit. tbh its kinda fire that I can just go buy 4-aco-dmt gummies down the street.

nope

>>2501568
Yes because its a healthcare issue. State should have control over this disease by having doctors and other medical professionals administering drugs to addicts with the goal of having them quit completely.

>>2501568

Grow up around anybody who habitualy uses and you will always come to the conlusion that its extremely degenerate. you can make whatever choices you like though.

>>2576194
Religion is weird and creepy. They also rape children.

>>2576996
Deists are fucking creepy as all hell TBH. I'd trust some illiterate peasant who believes in the big man in the sky over some Newtonian deist.

>>2576873
you're talking to a reactionary who will pretend up is down, left is right, night is day, and then either never respond when you correct him, or simply make the conversation a race to the bottom where he "wins" by being more childish. What's the point?

>>2576873
Saudi islamist cuck lmao

>There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
Find me a single modern communist or generally leftist space where people aren't at least mildly suspicious or critical of religion.

Very recentely (2012) brought from state archives, the book of 1965:
https://www.marxistleninists.org/Soviet%20Archives/Molotov%20Letter%20to%20the%20CC%20of%20CPCU/part%201.htm

%%Questions of History, 2011, issues 1-6, 8-11; 2012, issues 1, 3.

The funniest thing is that this document may not belong to Molotov, but to Malenkov, as stated in one of the notes to the publication.
Nevertheless, the magazine calls it Molotov's letter.
This document appears as Molotov's letter to the Central Committee of the CPSU (1964). Published in the magazine Questions of History, issues 1-6, 8-11 for 2011, and issues 1, 3 for 2012. The editorial preface states the following:

Publishing the document stored in the Russian State Archive of Socio-Political History (RGASPI, f. 82, op. 2, d. 198a) V. M. Molotov's manuscript on the personality cult of I. V. Stalin and other problems of party and state life, the editors of the journal "Questions of History" were guided by the desire to publicize the views of one of the leader's closest associates. Molotov bears considerable responsibility for the crimes of the Stalin regime.

Much of the manuscript is devoted to criticism of N. S. Khrushchev and his rule, while it contains a description of many events and facts that are interpreted from the position of a convinced Stalinist.

The publication of V. M. Molotov's manuscript, one must assume, will provoke controversial judgments among readers both regarding the assessment of many events and individuals, and regarding the position of the author himself. There is no doubt, however, that this material will also serve to establish the historical truth in its entirety.

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>>2576213
>>2576267
The communist manifesto is at odds with any concept of liberal or petty-bourgeois socialism.

<The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.

<Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

<Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

<1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
<2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
<3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
<4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
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>>2577472
*I forgot to post a link to the text "Marx to Dr. Kugelmann Concerning the Paris Commune":

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/letters/71_04_12.htm

>north korea bad
Stop worrying sbout north korea and pay your roommates rent tardo

>>2576213
You can read pretty much any M-L literature related to the above countries. The defense will be either implicit or present in the book. Personally, I don't think it's worth justifying from either a practical, ethical, or quality of life perspective. I have read Parenti and others who sort of defended the Warsaw Pact and such, but generally speaking while I can appreciate the development, social progress and the social safety nets which were brought by the USSR to Eastern Europe while it was still a shithole, I think the "authoritarianism" attributed by some to the influence of Western imperialism was more destabilizing to the USSR and its allies than anything else in the long run.

Don’t trust the government with abolition of most jury trials
PUBLIC anger moves MPs. The government’s retreat on the two-child benefit cap reflects pressure from campaigners and trade unions. But if Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have had to temper their attacks on the poorest, they have not let up in their administration’s extraordinary authoritarianism. This hit a new low with David Lammy’s proposal this week to abolish jury trials for anything other than rape, murder, manslaughter and certain offences passing a “public interest test;” and to allow judges to determine guilt on their own where the sentence is anything less than five years in prison. This is more extreme even than the proposals by Court of Appeal judge Sir Brian Leveson earlier this year. His recommendation was that defendants should lose the right to opt for a jury trial when the maximum sentence was two years or less.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/dont-trust-government-abolition-most-jury-trials

The Alternative Economic Model of Europe’s Nationalist Right
After the global financial crisis of 2008, Hungary’s Fidesz government was one of the first to adopt a partially heterodox, national-conservative set of economic policies. It was to become a role model for many nationalist right-wing parties. By 2015, the Law and Justice party (PiS) administration in Poland was seeking to emulate it. This made Hungary and Poland forerunners of novel forms of right-wing nationalism that blended concepts of nationalist neoliberalism in selective ways with neoconservative ideas. What can the experience of these two countries tell us about the viability of this approach to managing capitalist economies, as the nationalist right continues to advance across Europe and North America?
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/economic-nationalism-right-poland-hungary

Communist Party of India (Marxist): RSS – Roots and Wings of Authoritarianism
ELEVEN years of rule of the Modi government has seen a drastic and dangerous erosion of democracy in India. This is not confined to just the electoral system but to all round dismantling of democratic rightsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Dominican Republic grants US access to restricted areas for anti-drugs operations
Yet another confirmation that the DR only exists to be a nazi state for nazis to do nazi things. Fucking fake-ass bullshit nation propped up by imperialists and enslaver-aristocrats whose only meaningful output is hollow commodified imitations of Haitian culture and cheap sweatshop t-shirts with swastikas on them.

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>>2576747
tybna

>>2574175
It will take time to achieve armaments levels that makes NATO obsolete.

>>2574175
Also constitutions are not some kind of holy books but can be changed.

Meloni status?

>>2577172
who?

>>2574182
yup,you just need every single country in the union to sign for it,while half are Us puppet state (maybe ukraine next too !)

>>2422283
the president/congress controls US foreign policy not the price of commodities on the world market 2/10 gothca

>>2334358
I'm too autistic to succumb to peer pressure.

If the masses don't want to reckon with their own stupidity, they will reckon with their own extinction.

Or do you think being a brainlet carries no consequence?

>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.