/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

one less holdout

The bourgeoise got their eternal reich a few decades ago, they're just cleaning house and tidying it up a bit for what's to come.

The biggest impact of CPP is that libbed pinoy offshore devs don't like using it as a suffix for their code files lel.

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>>2615520
Being confidently wrong seems to be a favorite pastime on this board.

>>2658206
Name me one current “Maoist” movement that has caused significant damage to the state.

>>2659897
>pretending to be communist because they think itll advance their ethnic groups position.
Well communism will advance the position of blacks but it will also do the same for whites, asians and everyone else though thats not something they really care about.

>>2659838
>African-americans dont
Yeah ok hitler

they seem like naggers

>>2659754
>Racial supremacy is good when black people do it
Explain why.

>>2660273
Because sometimes they make good music

>>2659654
>time for deflection
You're damn right
>The source of the video is a Ukrainian telegram channel
>The post (https://t.me/exilenova_plus/15489) makes no mention of how the video was obtained or where this was and what specific bunker he'd be targeting, details Ukrainian telegram is usually all too eager to divulge in if it's proof of a Russian retreat where cameras and smartphones and shit get left behind
>The post just makes a point that this video should be shown around the world to "inform" them against volunteering in the Russian military, along with a Serious Sam reference
<Incidentally, the Ukrainian audience's top two reactions is 708 black moon face emoji and 542 laughing emojis
>As Ushanka points out, speaking Russian is not proof the soldier is Russian
>Russia doesn't need to conduct suicide bombings against bunkers, that's what FABs are for
>Charging at a bunker is a really bad way of reaching said bunker and there's no guarantees the African volunteer would actually run towards certain death over potential escape
>Posted 9th of January and this is seemingly still the sole article of proof that Russia is forcing African volunteers to be suicide bombers, quite a rare circumstance given how hard Ukrainians try to record everything

My guess, the video is ackshually Ukrainian with a captured PoW, eagerly shared for the aforementioned reason of discouraging the world from volunteering in the Russian military, but also because the video was going to be shared to its apparently thrilled Ukrainian audience anyway and it's best that Julian Ropcke is given a narrative he can report on and then has already dropped when/if the actual circumstances behind the video are revealed.

>>2659757
>if you don't support based Putin you're a lib
I absolutely dare you to justify how Putin's Russia is, in any way, defensible from a left wing perspective. I mean at this point, the population is utterly subjugated and blind to their class interests, totally consumed by either indifference, ignorance, or indulgent in state-enforced imperialism.

>>2659769
Oh, also 9th January is the day after the Oreshnik strike, so a story of betrayal and cruelty by Russian troops would be helpful.

>Venezuela’s Delcy Rodríguez assured US of cooperation before Maduro’s capture

>Exclusive: sources say powerful figures in the regime secretly told US and Qatari officials they would welcome Maduro’s departure

Before the US military snatched Venezuela’s president, Nicolás Maduro, earlier this month, Delcy Rodríguez and her powerful brother pledged to cooperate with the Trump administration once the strongman was gone, four sources involved at high levels with the discussions told the Guardian.

Rodríguez, who was sworn in on 5 January as acting president to replace Maduro, and her brother Jorge, the head of the national assembly, secretly assured US and Qatari officials through intermediaries ahead of time that they would welcome Maduro’s departure, according to the sources.

The communications between US officials from Delcy Rodríguez, who was then Maduro’s vice-president, began in the fall and continued after Trump and Maduro spoke in a crucial phone call in late November, the Guardian has learned, in which Trump insisted that Maduro leave Venezuela. Maduro rejected the demand.

By December, one American who was involved told the Guardian that Delcy Rodríguez told the US government she was ready: “Delcy was communicating ‘Maduro needs to go.’

“She said, ‘I’ll work with whatever is the aftermath,’” another person familiar with the messages said.

The sources say Marco Rubio, Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser, at first a skeptic about working with regime elements, came to believe that Delcy Rodríguez’s promises were the best way to prevent chaos once Maduro was gone.
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>>2659787
it's ting tang

>>2659796
I mean sure, but nothing of particular note, except Peru I guess. But having them actually come in shooting is still a totally different level of severity.

>>2659801
i have responded in the new thread

>>2659659
Rich man, while I pour tonnes of shit on yanks, I never asked anyone to kill themselves. A revolutionary bombing of wall street is what I advocate for. The best of course is the bombing of a nuclear power plant.

>>2659651
>In order to believe that Europe wants to remain in the US orbit we have to believe both that they will do so despite the Americans not holding up their end of the bargain,
yes, because the euro elites have no interests in ending the bargain even if US doesnt fulfill its part anymore, because they have become identical to the US elites and take their money from the same capital rent, not a separated euro one

>and that both the rhetoric and practical moves to distance themselves from the US are of no significance
I do believe that. But we will see, hopefully you're right and they actually do practical moves, but I'm betting they wont and we will need a major political earthquake for it to happen (no greenland isnt it)

Unions and students seek Columbia University board reforms after Trump deal
The decision comes after more than two years of what they say is disenfranchisement over the way Columbia's board of trustees has handled several issues, including permitting the police to target the student body multiple times while they were protesting against Israel’s war on Gaza and capitulating to the Trump administration’s demands over alleged violations of federal anti-discrimination laws.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/union-students-seek-reform-columbia-university-board-trump-deal

House Republicans vote to lift 20-year ban on mining near pristine Boundary Waters Canoe Area
Congressional Republicans moved closer Wednesday to lifting a 20-year ban on mining near Minnesota’s Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, pushing a resolution to end the moratorium through the House despite environmentalists’ warnings that it could devastate a premier destination for campers, kayakers and canoeists. The resolution now goes to the Senate, and approval there would send it to President Donald Trump for his signature.
https://apnews.com/article/boundary-waters-mining-moratorium-congress-f30b8dc9575e64b4b9e957b86409577d

‘They’re Getting Nervous,’ Says Platner After GOP Drops $42 Million on Maine’s Susan Collins
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) boasted that the $42 million investment, most of which will go to an advertising blitz to help the vulnerable five-term senator cling to her seat in November, was the largest the GOP’s Senate Leadership Fund had ever spent in Maine.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/collins-gop-spending-platner-nervous

Prosecutors barred from reviewing material seized from Washington Post reporter
Natanson, who has closely reported on the ways the Trump administration has reshaped the federal government, had two laptops, two phones, a Garmin watch and other devices seized last week as Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Communist Party of the Philippines: Corruption, injustice, abuses drive Filipino youth to revolution
Over the past week or two, the US-Marcos regime has mounted a frenzied media and social media campaign to intimidate and threaten the Filipino youth, who, more and more are growing disenchanted amid deep and widespread social ills, and are being drawn to question the rotten ruling system and seek radical and revolutionary ways to end corruption, injustice and abuses by those in power. This campaign to intimidate and threaten the Filipino youth is part of Marcos’ arsenal of fascist tactics to maintain his grip on power and preserve the ruling system, by suppressing the youth’s and people’s aspirations for change. This blatant assault against the youth is spearheaded by the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), the NTF-Elcac, and their mercenary hacks behind the Marcos government’s propaganda machinery. They have mobilized funds to activate and coordinate their social media troll army to drown out posts critical of the Marcos government in a deluge of spam comments, and throw their weight around to push their narrative in the press and public discourse. The Marcos psyops campaign heightened after a student researcher from the Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila, 22-year old Jerlyn Rose Doydora, died on January 1 in Abra de Ilog, Mindoro Occidental, amid relentless aerial bombing and strafing by the AFP, following an armed encounter. Another youth, 24-year old Chantal Anicoche, was taken into custody by the fascist soldiers, and illegally detained for a week, before being surfaced amid public outcry. Three Mangyan children were reportedly killed in the aerial bombing which was carried out in the proximity of mountain communities.
https://philippinerevolution.nu/statements/corruption-injustice-abuses-drive-filipino-youth-to-revolution/

The Imperialist Attack on Venezuela, the Crisis of Chavismo, and the Prospect of a Continental Anti-imperialist Struggle
We denounce those who celebrated Trump’s attack, seeing it as a liberation. Regrettably, many Venezuelan migrants believe Trump will liberate us. That is why we are on the front line of the anti-imperialist struggle against the neocolonial offensive, and we call for mobilization toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2655382
>"Capitalism" without the bourgeoisie around isn't capitalism anymore. Once workers own the MoP it's the beginnings of transition to socialism aka lower stage communism. What you are describing is the higher phase of communism.

Marx and Lenin both explicitly say so but people on here get mad when you point this out LOL. If they don't like it they should just abandon Marxism Leninism and come up with their own ideology founded on different principles: >>2658249


>>2658282
1. they do address your "points" no matter how much you insist they don't
2. with the exception of Trotsky, nobody I quoted is a revisionist, modernizer, or falsifier. and the quote I dropped from Trotsky is still correct anyway despite his problems. Same with Stalin, Kim Il Sung, Mao, Deng Xiaoping, or whoever else you may apply these labels to.
3. Deng was right and I will quote him because Deng was Marxist-Leninist.

>>2652779
Jewish privilege

>>2655351
>>The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an immense accumulation of commodities,” its unit being a single commodity.
from this it doesnt follow that any society where there is commodity production for exchange value is capitalist
you should read a logic introduction before getting into more complex works like capital

>>2655102
why would a jew want an independent poland? her people benefited from being a proxy between an occupying force and the natives

>>2655882
>the issue is that marxists dont into political science properly, so define class and the state incorrectly. all societies are class societies by virtue of status, which orders people differently. status can be defined by any metric, but there is always inclusion and exclusion.
>>2655891
>Marxists have defined both properly, it‘s just that you are a midwit who thinks arbitrary value systems constitute a class. It‘s about societal systems and relations that are consequential, i.e. who owns the means of production under capitalism and who does not.
Why do Marxists act like only capitalism has classes, didn't feudalism have classes as well?

>>2657876
>Why do Marxists act like only capitalism has classes, didn't feudalism have classes as well?
Is this a serious question? Let's read the opening words of Chapter 1 of The Communist Manifesto (1848)


<The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

<Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.

Right there, in the opening sentences, is the acknowledgement that class struggle predates capitalism, and that different forms of class antagonisms have existed throughout history, alongside different modes of production.

>>2656548
The comparison between Tang era China and the USSR is so blatant. The system of Nomenklatura is basically the 1:1 "merits" system of the Tang era with all it's flaws.
USSR fell for the same reason Tang did as well largely. Corruption and Stagnation.
>>2655976
"Soviet bureaucrats owned nothing"
Technically but not the reality. Basically the way you did anything in the USSR was through bribes. This is why the Red Directors all had mansion dachas and several cars.
Watch the Soviet movie Beware of the Car which is about the brazen corruption in day to day life.

>>2655128
>dialectical materialism can not predict the emergence of classes for a radically new system
Dialectical materialism isn't a determinist predictive science. It's only a tool that explains how individuals come to change their environment.

>a posteriori
Yes. This is what it seeks to do.

>What‘s the solution for that?
Have democracy ?

>because an unknown amount of new class based systems are ahead of us that will each require another revolution
What do you think would've happened if, say, Trotsky had been in power and had allowed for the soviets to retake their original power ? Why do you think socialism must necesarrily have an upper class ?

>Marxian analysis will be sufficiently expanded upon to be able to predict the emergence of new classes a priori
I don't think you actually understand dialectical materialism. This method doesn't aim at predicting things a priori of their arrival, it aims at analyzing contemporary and past societies through the lens of materialism (so no external forces) whilst retaining a part of individual agency (individuals can reshape their environment).
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>>2658175
>Trotsky had been in power and had allowed for the soviets to retake their original power
Trotsky had no desire to do this lol and it was Lenin who emasculated the soviets anyway, not Stalin.

Bump

>>2655332
Voznesensky had lost some documents and Stalin killed him for that. There wasn't any evidence outside of the USSR that Voz rly was a spy. The USSR accusations alone are insufficient.

>>2634542
>This is like saying a gang is fundamentally different if a mob boss gives some bonuses to his crew instead of just killing them if they disobey.
That is a pretty big difference actually since a gang boss that earns the respect and support of his crew is going to have a much better chance of keeping it together and building a successful criminal enterprise than one who behaves like a cartoon villain. If the US goes ahead with forced annexation of Greenland it would fundamentally change the balance of power and could dissolve the transatlantic alliance. People need to understand the difference between hegemony and naked force, because it does matter for the strength and structural integrity of a geopolitical coalition and thus world history.

>>2635028
>waiter, waiter! more dead proletarians please!!
iron felix told me that is the only way to get the proletariat to do something so

Trump is gonna make an offer Denmark can't refuse.

It would be crazy if Trump bombed Greenland - white solidarity and all of that.

He's gonna get it and euros won't do anything about it.

Prediction: Greenland will be annexed but NATO will unfortunately live because eurocucks gonna cuck.

Also:

>The United States' plans to annex Greenland may only surprise at first glance and lead to the mistaken belief that these are merely extravagant remarks by President Trump. In fact, the U.S. had such plans as early as the 1860s, when the administration considered annexing Greenland and Iceland, but the idea lacked congressional support at the time. In 1910, a trilateral deal was prepared to exchange territories between the U.S., Germany, and Denmark, which would have granted Greenland to the United States, but the agreement ultimately fell through. During World War II, the U.S. established military bases in Greenland, and after the war, it offered to purchase the island from Denmark. In summary, the United States has serious plans regarding Greenland. These plans have deep historical roots, and the U.S. will continue to systematically advance its geopolitical, military-political, and economic interests in the Arctic.
- Vladimir Putin

>>2637025
What you need to realize is that Putin and his cronies are bourg first, capitalist second, and porky third, and then care about russia as a very distant fourth.

They probably think the situation would allow them to finally be accepted into the western haute bourg club of neolib ghouls instead of being treated like pariahs for being russian orcs.
They're obviously wrong of course, but that's the mindset.

>>2658089
No i just don't like spam about how yanks are all evil little treatlers or whatever. Half the people spamming it probably picked it up from ecelebs

>>2658084
pictured here (You) and the mods rn

>>2658099
kys yankee-loving faggot

Nothing of value is being said in this thread, no wonder it got saged, it's just virtue signalling for pseudo-radical petit-edgelords.
t. not even a yank, I will never visit the US

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>>2658158
Leftychan would definitely be a better fit