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>>2333110
Ehh, could be better.

new thread >>2333119

>>2333020
Posters (and janny) keep insisting to me this weapon exists, so what is it? Attacks on nuclear facilities, 200 civilians dead, all your top generals assinated isn't enough to break it out?

>>2333117
<With us or with the terrorists
Sounds better when the unspoken part is
>"or we'll blow you up because we are the undisputed hegemonic power"
rather than
>"or we'll blow you up because our hegemony is on it's last legs"
Both may be effective, but on the latter, you know you are siding with a loser.

>>2333020
inb4 they just mean some religious wank where Khamenei, or by then his replacement, declares holy war or whatever. And then nothing happens because only CIA backed islamic terrorism is allowed in the west.



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Thoughts on "Lenin's Testament"? Most information I can find on it is contradictory. The WiKKKipedia page is unhelpful as expected and I can't find much other discussion about it.
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>>2330907
>t. ameriKKKan

>>2326786
>Stalin fucked up every military campaign he was a part of.
He actively listened to his commanders and changed strategies when they suggested it. Exactly what a political leader is supposed to do.
>What Stalin was good at was kissing ass
aka political organizing. This is the main reason why Trots always lose, they can't deal with any opposition, split into thousands of ineffective parties, accomplish nothing and cry out to aliens to do shit for them.

>>2330355
>it also doesn't exist anymore
4 decades after his death. He couldn't control USSR's later bad leaders and bad decisions from the grave. Sure he could have done some things better but not everything can be blamed on him.

>>2330389
It was the USSR's cultural revolution and low key civil war getting rid of internal Fascists. Even if they went overboard, it was the first socialist state to ever exist so it's not like could look at other socialist states for guidance.

Who cares bro
Bukharin should have taken over and implemented socialism with soviet characteristics
That would have save the ussr

>>2315236
Nothing you describe has happened in reality. It was Khruschevite forgery, enabled by Krupskaya already being dead. There's zero evidence from before the letters getting published by Khruschevites that a supposed fallout with Krupskaya/Stalin has happened

Furthermore, they've constantly tried to incriminate Krupskaya herself in ties with opposition, like, Zinoviev/Kamenev had a democratization proposition, Krupskaya didn't just throw them out of the door outright, and so they collected her signature on a bill that had wildly different content, one Krupskaya didn't see and had to defend her own name. Since then, she was in a very hostile mood to trots and rightists.

Bet they don't tell you about this incident, don't they? Instead, they at best present it as Stalin terrifying Krupskaya into compliance, heh

>>2330901
I find it totally believable. This doesn't sound crazy. Besides, didn't Trotsky himself say that Lenin was his beloved teacher, and Lenin has viewed Trotsky as his best pupil?



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If you think bullshit like Unequal Exchange, Dependency Theory, and World Systems Theory are Marxist, then you clearly haven't actually read Marx. It's just early Frankfurt School self-jizzing paired with other sociologies and a bit of Ricardian economics and Hilferding sprinkled into it for good measure. Hell, some people even make shit up about Lenin having something to do with it, like sure, Lenin's elaborations on the state, imperialism, etc. are half-assed, some borderline midwit but it was never THIS retarded.
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Third world countries are poor because their ruling class fail to develop strong cohesive institutions, they fail to bring corruption, instability, violence etc under control. Their states allows or even helps in the formation of cliques of elites that monopolize ownership of land and capital, thus stifling capitalist competition.

This is why Marx unironically was pro-colonialism in the instances when it destroyed the old stagnant social relations of the colonized and replaced it with a more vital capitalism. This is why Engels talked about the US conquering Calfornia from Mexico being a good thing.

The idea that the introduction of capitalism magically automatically results in rapid industrialization, economic growth etc, is a false idea. This false idea is what causes people to desperately search for some nebulous outside factor when this doesn't happen. The reality is that there is a human factor here. You need a stable society, good institutions, good levels of social cohesion, good human capital like an educated, hardworking population, low crime rates etc.

poor countries are poorer than developed countries for the same reason small businesses are poorer than big businesses and supporting neither has anything to do with communism

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They are retarded. Global inequality is not some unequal exchange. It's an inherent feature of capitalism. The countries where you can make stuff out for less cost of production and have higher productivity are obviously gonna dominate the market over the ones that are low and expensive. The wealth transfer i.e. "unequal exchange" stems from the production, not through trade/exchange.

If the production per worker was higher in the West, outsourcing would still exist and for precisely that reason. Capitalists don't outsource because they're less productive, they outsource precisely because they're relentlessly seeking to maximize absolute profits. The developed countries demonstrably have an absolute advantage in efficiency and technology. So, what does highly productive capital do? It leverages its superior capital stock and technological edge while strategically exploiting wage differentials elsewhere for specific tasks.

It's direly perplexing out here. The utter poverty of philosophies about exploitation and international relations.

>>2311855
But 3rd world nationalist are oppressed and they deserve to have their own fascists in power because they are brown and oppressed :(

>>2329135
>The wealth transfer i.e. "unequal exchange" stems from the production, not through trade/exchange.
no lol. the wealth is created in production, its appropriated in exchange. your conflating the economy as a whole with the actions of individuals. individual exchanges are always above or below the actual value, and total value is always equal to total price, by definition.

>If therefore, the capitalist who applies the new method, sells his commodity at its social value of one shilling, he sells it for threepence above its individual value, and thus realises an extra surplus-value of threepence. On the other hand, the working day of 12 hours is, as regards him, now represented by 24 articles instead of 12. Hence, in order to get rid of the product of one working day, the demand must be double what it was, i.e., the market must become twice as extensive. Other things being equal, his commodities can command a more extended market only by a diminution of their prices. He will therefore sell them above their individual but under their social value, say at tenpence each. By this means he still squeezes an extra surplus-value of one penny out of each. This augmentation of surplus-value is pocketed by him, whether his commodities belong or not to the class of necessary means of subsistence that participate in determining the general value of labour-power. Hence, independently of this latter circumstance, there is a motive for each individual capitalist to cheapen his commodities, by increasing the productiveness of labour.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch12.htm



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>>2332716
Anon what is that link

>>2332773
I added .gov for the funny

>>2332784
Girlcockx?! DOTGOV

>>2332716
ARGHHH MY COMPUTER ARGHHHH



 

I’ll admit, I genuinely didn’t give a shit when I heard that India and Pakistan were bombing each other, I didn’t give a shit about any of the trump related drama, and I didn’t give a shit about the Iran Israeli garbage either. What amazes me is how apathetic everyone else was despite being aware of all these problems.
Just look online and you’ll find hundreds of videos of people just standing idly by while missiles are being set off and everyone is just totally zen. You can tell these days that marginalization, privatization, police violence, and systemic abuse globally have left the most leaders’ attitudes on politics to be completely out of sync with normal people. Even the bourgeoisie is currently in a reputation crisis among tje people it exploits with the whole musk drama shitshow fucking over whatever patience tje average person had for the rich left. People just really don’t care about the rich or politics as much as they used to.
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>>2330717
Don't worry, we won't.
t.Lebanese

>>2330717
what exactly are they to do, faggot?

2330841
A lot actually. Here’s a *brief* list of things Lebanese people can (and to an extent already have done) do to make their country safe from Israel:
• Buy and make their own weapons—which could include bombs, guns, vehicles, drones, ammo, etc.—from whoever is already is selling them weapons
• arm their population with guns
• train people physically and with whatever weapons they have on them
• support and fund vigilante and militia groups to attack Israeli positions and to set up their own camps to defend their own territory
• build more defensive networks to sabotage Israeli aggression networks
• collaborate with the few middle eastern allies they have to find more weapons and security deals
• supply weapons to anti Israeli forces just to have them fight that Zionist regime instead of having to fight Israel head on
• spy on Israeli soldiers and military positions
• stockpile military supplies in safe houses while gradually recruiting as many Lebanese people as possible
I could keep going but I’ll stop there. Any of these choices alone are preferable to whatever unserious shit the Lebanese are doing right now.

>>2330890
Only a fraction of a population ever actually participates in combat scenarios or is even dedicated to military development because it comes at the cost of not doing anything else more productive. This has nothing to do with "apathy" it's just economics questions.

Are you all seriously having a cry about some Lebanese people celebrating the Zionist Regime getting bombed? Because I'm celebrating too, and you're invited comrade /o/



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Guy sounds like E Michael Jones in the last part.
>I've been studying Vichyite France and boy… the myth that it was some kind of Right-wing utopia is a joke.
>It was based off the personalism of Modernist theologian Schleiermacher through Maritain (intimate of Pope Paul VI and Saul Alinsky), the personalist communitarian philosophy of Mournier (who was espoused by Distributist anarchists) and Swiss Europe of Regions Fascist De Rougemont who loves the Ayatollah.
>At the very top of these movements is the Swiss Fascism model of Pan-Europeanism of Count Kalergi and Otto Hapsburg (who helped found the Austrian School and Mont Pelerin.) The present movement's leader is a Catholic noble who claims it was funded by Freemasons and the CIA.
>This directly interfaces with Europe's fascism HQ CINEF, and is in line with the FSB-controlled circles around Europe of Regions advocates Alain de Benoist, Steve Bannon, Alexandre Dugin and Constatin Malofeev. And leftist counterparts like Paulwels who is a Fabian, was chair of the Congress of Cultural Freedom and is part of Benoist's movement.
>Realize that the fascist proposition is not about ideology but about geopolitics and every stupid religious fundamenatlist is being recruited into anti-capitalist, anti-nationalist, pro-regionalism, third-positionism to further this agenda for the Swiss, British, the Italian nominally Catholic nobility around the House of Savoy and the Paymat group around Dugin and his oligarch friends.
>Catholics and Orthodox too dumb to realize these are same people fueling the immigration crisis and same Hofjuden who work through the Catholic nobility's World-Anti-Communist-League under leadership of circles around the Jerusalem Foundation and Jabotinsky-related networks (Kissinger, Conrad Black, Erik Prince, Evelyn de Rothschild, the Bloch family of H&R Block, etc.)
>What was so bad about Republicanism, the Renaissance and Capitalism? All systems that upheld Reason against radical action?

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The myth that the CCF was antifascist must be destroyed. All these radical movements stem from De Maistre and Bakunin.

>The Congress for Cultural Freedom:

Making the Postwar World Safefor Fascist `Kulturkampf'

The president of the CCF's Executive Committee was Denis de Rougemont, a Swiss national who had introduced Paris to the works of Nazi philosopher Martin Heidegger, Soren Kierkegaard, and Karl Barth before World War II, through his magazine Hic et Nunc.

De Rougemont, known for his book Love in the Western World, wrote a Gnostic broadside attacking the morality of the United States under FDR, which can only be taken as an attempt to undermine the mobilization to defeat Fascism in World War II. Entitled "On the Devil and Politics," and written while he was stationed in the U.S. working for the Office of War Information (OWI), it was published in the June 2, 1941 issue of Christianity and Crisis.

De Rougemont's thesis is that all men have an inherently evil side to them which is at least an impulse. Every individual risks that his impulse might actually become real under certain circumstances, and an individual must know that evil resides in himself, or he is not a functioning human being.
[https://larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/3125ccf_kulturkampf.html]

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>The Congress for Cultural Freedom: Making the Postwar World Safe for Fascist `Kulturkampf'

https://larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/3125ccf_kulturkampf.html

The working relationship between the British elites and their American counterparts, in what ultimately became the CCF, traced back to a 1948 tour of America by Arthur Koestler.

Born in 1905 in Budapest, as a young man he was an aide to Vladimir Jabotinsky, the self-professed Zionist promoter of ᴉuᴉlossnW Fascism. When he was 27, he joined the Communist Party and went to Russia, where he wrote Of White Nights and Red Days, which was funded by the Comintern.

Koestler next operated in Germany, and was exiled to Paris when Hitler took power. There, he worked for leading Comintern agent Willi Munzenberg, and became an expert in running infiltration and neutralization operations against political organizations. In 1936, Munzenberg deployed him on a spy mission to Spain, where he was interned as a political prisoner. Though he was a well-known Sovet intelligence asset, it was the British who intervened to get Koestler freed. In 1938, he resigned from the Communist Party and went to Paris. During World War II, he was interned in France, and while in jail, wrote his "Damascus Road" repudiation of communism, Darkness at Noon. His book became one of the propaganda documents of choice for Dulles and company, circulated through the Congress for Cultural Freedom…



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It seems to me that we must accelerate the proletarianization of the petty-bourgeoisie in the imperial core. I would identify the social reproduction of capitalism with productive capital, the P-C'-M'-C-P phase of commodity production. It seems to me in analyzing productive capital that the proletariat must intensify consumption. If you are an accelerationist (and accelerationism is sensible in the context of the imperial core) then consumerism is a valuable tactic in the toolbox of the proletariat. We must drive the petty-bourgeosie into debt and evict them. The petty-bourgeoisie will be remolded in the school of the streets, and forged into loyal soldiers of the revolution. Not sure how much sense this makes. I suppose earning money to pay for the prole-ing of the petty-bourgeoisie is still technically centered on workers but it feels wrong. Is there an actual viable form of worker-centered accelerationism?
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>>2331422
>muh great men are the sole responsible people for the inevitable direction of capital relations
you are da greatest communist here thats for sure

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>>2331422
Before the October revolution became possible, things had to get worse, and attempts at reform had to fail. This did not make the reformists and reactionaries communists (which is what your joke seems to imply that others are saying) but it did mean that they accelerated conditions to a breaking point where socialist revolution became feasible.

>>2331196
>We
Thinking trillion dollar corporation’s capital = your own personal capital you command is one hell of a brain worm!

>>2331223
Why do you want capitalism to continue in the “periphery”?

>>2331438

The key is to build up the subjective factor in the form organizations in preparation.



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<disband the movement after Syria fell to zionists
<are supported by USA and Israel
<are calling for Iran to be bombed
<their ideology is a mishmash of liberalism and anarchism
<Kurdish intellectuals are financed by German intelligence agancies and are sent out to sow confusion among the movement
<practice a cult of personality and can't admit that Ocalan is demented
anyone spreading this wicked ideology is no comrade of mine.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>leader of a group of 1000 people (maybe) said something
>therefore entire ethnic group is evil
kill yourself OP

Csam on the beria, nazi posting and racist fedjacketting today, usaid really was disolved? what is our cheka doing?

>>2330410
>“national sovereignty” (synonym for localized bourgeois domination)
me when i'm a fucking retarded leftcom that makes up words, takes up nonexisting issues with ML and argues with strawmen

>>2330401
Is that Stalin ?

>>2330407
I know this guy is fundamentally moronic, but this is a hilarious statement on the Kurdish ethnicity/nationality (it really isnt either and is highly polycentric). But let's go through this line by line
>A diaspora
Not at all, there is a clear kurdish heimatland in which the plurality of kurds live. They have substantial diasporas in the nation states that occupy this territory (Istanbul having the most kurds of any city in the world) and elsewhere (Britain and Germany in Europe, Japan, Canada as immigrants, and in Khorasan Province and the Caucasus as historical migrant populations). But to call it "a diaspora" is utterly moronic.
>Persians
So they are NOT Persians, if they were they would be considered as such by Persians/Farsi speakers. Kurdish is not farsi, it is related but so is English and German. If it was the Iranian state wouldn't ban the official use of Kurdish (specifically Sorani). There is a nation that speaks Farsi outside of Iran (Tajikistan) which likewise has kurds which are a seperate minority within it.
>Iraqis
Arab Iraqis are Semetic, Kurds are Indo-European. Just not the same group whatsoever. Kurdish Iraqis are obviously not the same as arab iraqis, otherwise we wouldn't distinguish between them.
>Jewhadis
Non-existent slopterm.
>American mercenaries
How the fuck do you think the kurds can pay for american mercenaries? If you are talking about Rojava, it is true "anti-jihadis" went there but most of them pissed off are they were made to read marxist-leninist theory lmao.
>Israeli Soldiers
Literally no documented evidence of this ever. It is worth reminding everyone that during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, it was Kurdish (and Armenian) Marxist-Leninist militants who fought with the PFLP and then trained together. As a result of these conflicts there is a yearly (although cancelled since 2023) festival where Kurdish revolutionaries go to a west bank town under siege to support their mutual efforts towards liberation. (https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/0111/Together-they-can-In-Palestinian-village-a-moPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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What's happening now
• Fresh blasts: Iran launched a new barrage at Israel on Sunday evening, with an explosion seen in the coastal city of Haifa. Israel said it began another series of strikes on military targets across Iran amid international pleas for diplomacy and de-escalation.

• Trump rejects assassination plan: Two US officials told CNN the US president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spokesperson have denied the reports of such a plan.

• Terrified civilians and rising death tolls: The hostilities have killed at least 224 people in Iran and 14 in Israel, according to local authorities in each country. As Tehran residents flee the capital, Iran’s Ministry of Health said at least 1,481 people had been injured since Israel launched the wave of attacks on Friday.

• ‘Weeks’ to go: Israel’s operation against Iran is expected to take “weeks, not days” and is moving forward with implicit US approval, according to White House and Israeli officials. US President Trump said his country “had nothing to do with” the Israeli attacks but later acknowledged that US involvement in the conflict is a possibility.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25
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>>2329282
shut the fuck up

>>2328504
Jewish nigger

>>2329282
/pol/dittor Jewish nigger

>>2329346
a general serving the Vladimirputin army
what's so hard to understand ?!

>>2328969
>Will white feathers work in the modern age?
No. Unironically good outcome for blackpill ideology going mainstream with zoomies. Everyone knows soldiers get cucked by draft dodging chads.



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What's happening now
• Fresh blasts: Israel detected more missiles launched from Iran on Sunday evening, with an explosion seen in the coastal city of Haifa, after residential areas of Tehran were hit with multiple strikes. Earlier on Sunday, for the first time, Iran launched a daytime barrage against Israel, but there have been no reports of significant damage.

• Trump rejects assassination plan: A US official told CNN the US president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. However, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spokesperson have denied the reports of such a plan, calling them “false” and “fake.”

• Israeli toll mounts: At least 14 are confirmed dead in Israel in the hostilities. Visiting the scene of a strike that killed 4 people, Israel’s PM Netanyahu said “think what would happen if Iran had atomic weapons.” A stated goal of the Israeli operation is to stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb.

• Iranians flee: Some Tehran residents have been escaping north to safer rural areas while others have been stockpiling essentials. The metro system is open around the clock so people can shelter. Scores are reported killed but no official figure has been given.

• No end in sight: Israel’s operation against Iran is expected to take “weeks, not days” and is moving forward with implicit US approval, according to White House and Israeli officials. US President Trump said his country “had nothing to do with” the Israeli attacks but later acknowledged that US involvement in the conflict is a possibility.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25
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>>2328493
and it being the common liberal narrative its the most common narrative about the history of the pact, repeated by liberal adjecent individuals.

>>2327679
You mean trotskyist L

>>2328435
a person can be a communist without being working class (Engels for the most obivous example) and a person can be a worker without being communist.
>>2328429
living in a settler-colony has nothing to do with whether you're a reserveless wage worker or not; worker is not an ethical category it's an economic category

>The Israeli military said in a statement early on Monday morning that it was striking missile sites in central Iran.




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