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A common criticism that I see is that capitalism is hyper adaptable to most circumstances and that it can't even really be fully defeated at all, especially from those who shill for it. However, liberalism and it's various forms of it has only been around for like 500 years. The previous order of despotism, empire and feudalism were around for much longer. While it's ability to subsumed criticism of itself into the system is potent, I am not exactly sure if capitalism is all that durable? Is this a weird thing to think?
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>>2810581
You do struggle with English grammar?

Saying X decays into Y means that X and Y are two different states of being, and that the object has shed its former properties of being X in favor of the properties of Y.
So in particle science, saying that Particle A decayed into Particle B, means that the particle no longer has Particle A's properties.

Then, in the phrase "fascism isn't capitalist", "capitalist" is not a noun, which would be "capitalism". Rather, its an adjective. Fascism is described as being "capitalist".

>>2810588
No, but I've had a very long day.

>>2810543
OP was using terms like "despotism" and "liberalism". I was more so refering to how liberal "democracies" decay into fascism because of the capitalist mode of production.

>>2810614
I was trying to convey the incestuous god-king variations of totalitarianism. I know that fascism is kind of like it but I think it has a different sort of appeal? IDK, people do worship Trump after all

>>2810614
OP was probably making a naive comparison, but despotism did usually lead towards idiosyncratic economic relations, that i would call palatial in a broad sense. Even in the presence of a state and bureaucracy, it often caused the personal property of the despot to be at least of equal importance in financing warfare and public investment, which can still be seen in later pre-modern autocracies like the Byzantine Empire. Roman imperium and similar forms of overlordship were also deeply economical and may be seen as precursors to later feudalist modes of distribution.



 

Peru's runoff to pit Fujimori's daughter against Castillo's political heir
Fujimori, 50, arrives at her fourth runoff with a new strategy. After losing in 2011, 2016 and 2021, the Fuerza Popular leader has openly embraced the memory of her father, who was convicted of corruption, crimes against humanity and espionage, and died in 2024. “I want to be president so I can govern as my father did,” she said days before the vote. On election day she visited the family tomb.
https://en.mercopress.com/2026/05/12/peru-s-runoff-to-pit-fujimori-s-daughter-against-castillo-s-political-heir

Argentine Universities Call Fourth National March Over Funding Crisis
The Fourth Federal University March will mobilize students, professors, rectors and unions from more than 60 universities to demand an end to the budget freeze and compensation for the loss of real income caused by rising inflation.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/argentine-universities-call-fourth-national-march-over-funding-crisis/

Bukele escalates crackdown on independent media after documentary exposes his alleged gang deals
Last week, the online newspaper El Faro reported that the government of right-wing Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele froze the bank account and a property belonging to two partners of Trípode S.A., the company that founded and supports El Faro. According to the Ministry of Finance, the measure functions as collateral for alleged debts related to tax evasion. However, the media outlet’s partners and journalists assert that this is yet another attempt to intimidate the press that has been critical of the Bukele administration and that, at its core, seeks to silence those who expose the right-wing government’s alleged acts of corruption.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/05/12/bukele-escalates-crackdown-on-independent-media-after-documentary-exposes-his-alleged-gang-deals/

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Trump’s ‘Golden Dome’ Shield Exposed as ‘Trillion-Dollar Boondoggle’ by CBO
“Although the notional NMD system… would be far more capable than defenses the United States fields today,” the report states, “it would not be an impenetrable shield or be able to fully counter a large attack of the sort that Russia or China might be able to launch.” “The strategic consequences of deploying an NMD system with the capacity considered here are unclear,” the report continues, “because they hinge on an adversary’s perception of the defense’s capability and how that adversary chose to respond.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-golden-dome-cbo

US annual consumer inflation posts largest gain in three years as prices increase broadly
The back-to-back rises in the Consumer Price Index reported by the Labor Department on Tuesday, reflected strong gains in the costs of energy products amid the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran. ‌Food prices surged last month and inflation also spilled over to the services sector, with higher rental costs and airfares.
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-consumer-prices-increase-further-april-2026-05-12/

‘Number of People Who Don’t Have Enough to Eat’ Surging Due to Trump-GOP Aid Cuts
According to US Department of Agriculture data, participation in SNAP dropped by 8% nationwide in the six months following the law’s signing. A recent analysis by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities found that around 2.5 million people have lost food aid since the legislation took effect.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/hunger-surges-after-trump-cuts

Pentagon gives new $29bn Iran war price tag, downplays munitions concerns
The estimate is an increase from the $25bn Hurst previously reported to members of Congress in late April, when the administration of US President Donald Trump first offered an official price tag for the conflict. Several experts, however, questioned the Pentagon’s ledger, saying the real cost to US taxpayers is likelPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>According to her plea agreement, Wang and Yaoning “Mike” Sun, 65, of Chino Hills, worked with the People’s Republic of China to promote the country’s interests through pro-PRC propaganda posted to a website they ran, US News Center, which billed itself as a news source for the local Chinese American community, the Department of Justice said.
Based. Shame she didn't get away with it.

The Greens Can Win National Power. How Much Do They Want It?
“Amateurs talk strategy,” the US general Omar Bradley reputedly once said, “professionals talk logistics.” As the dust settles on an extraordinary set of elections, with Labour smashed in Wales, the West Midlands and the Manchester and Liverpool city regions, that is how to make sense of what just happened. Reform UK, whatever you think of their policy platform, are the party of logistics. While Labour’s siren voices call for a ‘comms reset’, faster delivery or even a change of leader, Britain’s teal-hued insurgents are focusing on scale and speed. The cliche is hackneyed, but also underscores they are a business as much as a party: this is an organisation run like a VC-funded startup. All of that is interesting Aaron, I hear you say, but the next general election is three years away – who knows what might change before then? This is partly the point. What should really worry Labour, and anyone who wants to stop a Reform government, is how the gap between the establishment parties and Farage’s troops is growing by the week. Certainly, Reform’s great vulnerability is that, for now, it depends on the most charismatic figure in British politics. But once you start controlling dozens of local authorities, that will change. Unlike UKIP and the Brexit party before them, Reform is building a party cadre. For a leftist, it’s almost admirable.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/05/08/the-greens-can-win-national-power-how-much-do-they-want-it/

Bolivia’s Social Movements Mobilize Against Privatization
“For a colonized people the most essential value, because the most concrete, is first and foremost the land,” Frantz Fanon wrote in The Wretched of the Earth: “the land which will bring them bread and, above all, dignity.” Marching for over twenty days from the tropics into freezing high-altitude terrain, many wearing nothing more substantial on their feet than plastic sandals, land workers and indigenous representatives arrived in the capital of La Paz this week to defend their territories. They were met by the miners’ union, the Federación Sindical de Trabajadores Mineros de Bolivia (FSTMB), and highland representatives from the peasant union, the Confederación Sindical Única de Trabajadores CampPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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In 2 years time we need to be prepared for the changes that will take place in the United States and the world.
Corporations and their actions have been strongly against the interests of the American population. We have enough time to work on a solution to dealing with these extremely greedy individuals.

An idea I propose is an AI facial detection system which will allow the detection of all the corporate heads should they show their face.

I mean an actual effective one that works in large datasets.

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>>2809882
Chinese intellectuals agree!



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Hello,
So, assume for this thread that by "ruling class," we mean the political active faction of the owning class (bourgeoisie) who, for the most part, would rather just sit on their butts and receive stock dividends. The ruling class itself controls the media apparatus, corporation, and politics of the western world.

I bring this up because I'm about to read "DuPont Dynasty: Beyond the Nylon Curtain" a book so damning that the DuPonts attempted to buy every copy of it and now the price for a hardcopy is over $500 (I'm getting mine from the library)

The DuPonts are a family of chemical manufacturing magnates who are largely responsible for the state of Delaware being a tax haven for corporations today. I know they've had a hand in deregulation and stifling reports of asbestos toxicity, but I hope to learn more from the book.
Robert H. Richards IV, a Dupont Heir, was found guilty in 2014 of raping his own daughter and as punishment had to attend rehabilitation (which he never did) and got labelled as a sex offender. He also molested his own son repeatedly and despite his ex-wife's best efforts did not face any legal repercussions for doing so.
In the US, some of the most notable ruling class families are the Astors, Rockefellars, DuPonts, Kennedys, Guggenheims, Rothschilds, Fords, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and Bushes. Not all of them are American but the capitalist class is transnational. There are others. Some, like the Vanderbilts, have largely lost their fortune but due to intermarriage with other families (except notably the Rothschilds who favor inbreeding) they have managed to maintain some power. Anderson Cooper is a vanderbilt to give you an example of how far they have fallen–even the haute bourgeoisie are not immune to proletarianization.
Flagging because I like pancakes.
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>>2771313
>total land value calculated at $700B+ across 250,000+ acres
Wait what? Wouldn't that make his net worth higher than Elon Musk? Is he hiding it on purpose?

>>2771313
250,000 acres is about 390 square miles and 1011 square kilometers btw

>>2810179
One time i found this pdf on the cia.gov website
Glowies are truly sick "people"

>>2810410
it's on CIA dot gov because osama had it on his computer allegedly

>>2810249
Elon Musk is part of this tech porky generation/culture flaunting their assets. The real big shots hide and obfuscate how much capital they have.



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In 1957, Załuski gave a lecture named "Patriotic Traditions and the Contemporary Shape of Socialist Patriotism", where, with Gomułka's approval, he declared the Marxist slogan of "workers do not have a nation" to be no longer valid:

Comrades we know that since the times of the Manifesto the world has considerably changed, the international workers’ movement also changed… We ought to remember that we moved quite far away from treating this quote and these thoughts of Marx as they were treated 50 years ago, however, we have not moved away from Marx, but from grasping at half a sentence of his thoughts, and we have moved in the direction of understanding [that] the development of the world went in this direction and that is where our intellectual revisions come from. We have moved in the direction of understanding the second part of the Marxist sentence, because we have observed the process of the proletariat gaining their national fatherlands
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>>2809996
Indeed first thing "liberal humanists" do is dissolve the party
>Nationalist writer PAX Aleksander Bocheński, who defended the principle of central control of the economy and criticised the concepts of introducing competition and building certain forms of capitalism. Particularly controversial were adopted proposals of workers' self-governments and anti-inflationary policies, which were seen as a copy of Gorbachev's policies as well as introduction of capitalist dynamics into the economy
>Shortly before 1989, Jaruzelski changed the course and instead pursued a strategy of reaching a "round table" agreement with Solidarity, mediated by the Catholic Church. This decision was strongly opposed by Grunwald, which took a hardline stance - Grunwald members were ones of the few delegates to vote against the Polish United Workers' Party self-dissolution at its last congress in January 1990

>From 1969 to 1990, Bohdan Poręba belonged to the Polish United Workers’ Party and was also a member of the Patriotic Movement for National Rebirth. In the 1980s, he was one of the founders and chief ideologists of the “Grunwald” Patriotic Union. He was also active in the Polish-Soviet Friendship Society. As one of the few people at the final congress of the Polish United Workers’ Party, he voted against dissolving the party and supported the political line of Albin Siwak, known as “national communism.” From 1986 to 1989, he was a member of the National Grunwald Committee.

Speaking of Piasecki, he had a pretty good turnout
Piasecki’s funeral was scheduled for January 4. As a member of the
Council of State, he was buried with all honors. His body was taken first to
the Primate’s Palace in Warsaw’s Old Town district. The simple wooden
coffin draped with the Polish flag was placed on a catafalque in the middle
of the hall, before the neoclassical columns and below a plaque depicting the
Polish white eagle. Soldiers from the Polish People's army’s honor guard stood at
attention. Members of the government, the Council of State, leaders of political and social associations, and representatives of PAX formed alternating guards of honor. Among the numerous veterans of Polish political life who came to pay tribute to Piasecki were Josef Cyrankiewicz and Zenon Kliszko.

>>2808196
>Poles think they’re players in the game [of the Western powers], but we’re just cannon fodder.
"Russians are orcs! we need to exterminate them" - actually existing fantasy creature that is a racist caricature

>>2809359
"Nooo Russians need to simply read the book Leviathan, but not do any praxis based on that theory! They should not actually use political power to assert authoritarian legitimacy, just debate philosophy all day bro!"

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>>2810340
oi git 'av sum painboyz fix ya ap



 

Seriously, like I understand that leftism is a science, but most people have no idea what you're saying and just think you're a pretentious petty-bourgies schizo
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>>2808958
>but most people have no idea what you're saying
Thats fine, people who use all that jargon in here usually dont either.

>>2809588
It's a "science" like sociology is a science

Fucking illiterate americans

>>2810000
It's a hard science. Sociology and Economics are just parts of Marxism btw.

>>2810239
> sociologie and economics
> hard science

you have to be trolling



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Let's all do dialectical materialism!
>Thesis: Heil Hitler
>Antithesis: Hitler was bad
>Synthesis: Hitler was okay
This is real Marxism, just as Carl Marks intended
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>>2809657
Boer war camps, the Armenian genocide, and the genocides in Namibia all set the stage for Europe

>>2809659
I can't comment on Armenia or Namibia, but the Boer camps are an example of what I'm talking about. They were brutal and horrific but they were a tool for the subjugation of the Boers, not their eradication.

>>2809654
so what? does that mean they weren't particularly evil?

>>2809729
People are of course correct to argue that the Nazis didn't exist in a vacuum, that they were the rotten fruit of capitalist society's existing tendencies, and simply the logical conclusion of long established trends. They're also correct to describe the mainstream view of the Nazis as "sin-eaters", demons that European imperialists of all nations can project all the bad things in the world onto in order to obfuscate both their own society's role in producing Nazism, as well as their own crimes which predate the Nazis. Like with anything else though people take these things too far, and start to convince themselves that there was nothing special about the Nazis at all. I think an honest look at them and comparison to earlier colonial atrocities will reveal that they were more bloodthirsty and murderous in both their goals and methods than other European empires. It's also worth noting that a lot of those earlier atrocities were widely condemned even at the time, with the Belgian Congo and Boer concentration camps being good examples. Meanwhile many other atrocities were rationalized as being part of a civilizing mission, which was ultimately beneficial to the people being oppressed. This is also something which was absent in Nazi thinking. Nobody pretended that Operation Barbarossa was part of a mission to civilize and uplift the backwards Slavs. There was no Nazi equivalent of Charles V telling his conquistadores that the Indians were future Christians and subjects of Spain, and entitled to the rights pertaining thereto (proclamations which they of course ignored). On the contrary they issued orders to their troops telling them that they were free to rape, murder, and loot the population. The Spanish Empire had to conquer those pagan Indians so that their souls could be saved, the British Empire needed to occupy Africa to end the slave trade and uplift the local savages, etc. But the Nazis talked openly about the extinction of lesser peoples, and didn't shy away from this being their goal except in very limited, opportunistic situations (honorary Ayrans etc). There's a tendency among communists to correctly diagnose the real motivations and causes of a policy, but then to completely forget the ways in which it was justified at the time, the fact that people believed these justifications, and very often considered what they were doing to be for Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2809611
nah, I've been banned from reddit multiple times. Either for "inciting violence," "terroristic threats," "racism" (against the fucking ukrainians) or, most commonly, ban evasion. All of those things fly here.



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Can anyone explain to me what this guy has actually done except relentlessly aura farm and fail to do anything about jihadist insurgency? I only ever see "BRICS News" and other unreliable engagement farmers hype him up.
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>>2792992
I hate to break it to you, but Hitler wasn't actually a socialist, he just said he was for clout.

>>2793107
>He isnt really a socialist himself
So he's worthless.

>>2805091
>So he's worthless.
Complete nonsense. Any attack on the Western imperialist bourgeoisie renders direct aid to the worker's movement in the West itself, as well as the third world.

>>2793974
>mindlessly worshipping everything the Bolsheviks did instead of actually applying theory to the present
I fuckin’ hate campoids so much man. Fuckin’ braindead pedants

>>2805093
> Any attack on the Western imperialist bourgeoisie renders direct aid to the worker's movement in the West itself
Oh man I wish

>>2792999
>The woman you spoke to is diaspora, that means she's better off than her countrymen
On what basis? The first to emigrate to basically go work as a taxi druver usually aren't the well of in a society, but those who are left with almost nothing and are trying to make money to send home or in search of a new place to start over.
The cuban diaspora is in no way comparable.



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Official /leftybritpol/ Thread Theme

https://youtu.be/d8Irf1_GhbE

Discuss ongoing happenings in the UK and the wider islands.

Should we nuke the Falklands?

Should Starmer stay out of YOUR childs school?

Discuss this and more….in /leftypol/ UK edition.
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>>2807412
woman doctors has nothing to do with homosexuality though. abortion maybe idk

>>2807430
>Capitalist society
>"More or less communist"

>>2807410
Stalin was also an intellectual and an atheist where is this classist shit coming from

>>2807414
>No, you are saying that there is a linear graph between communism and queerness, which is clearly false.
I am saying that they are strongly correlated, which is true. The fact the USSR failed to update its laws to reflect underlying material conditions speaks to the same underlying structural flaws that meant the USSR couldn't adapt to changing conditions and not die on its arse. (Contrast China, which adapted fine and which has a negative official line on homosexuality and nonconformism in general, but which nevertheless is full of LGBT behavior because all the basic underlying material drivers are there.)
The law influences changes in social attitudes, but it does not drive social change. As late as 1995 a majority of irreligious adults in the UK thought gay sex was always wrong despite homosexuality having been legal since the 1960s!
The changes in the 1960s came about due to increasing recognition that whether you criminalized being gay or not, some men were going to do it.

That said: liberal elites are always, everywhere, better than conservative elites. That around the world conservative elites have allowed themselves to be eaten up pandering to the actually mentally deficient tells you all you need to know about the "virtues" of conservatism.

>>2807430
Because it's not a question of rich vs poor.
A poor country with a retirement system will, all else being equal, have more exclusively homosexual men than a richer country without one. That is what this theory predicts. It is, to a high degree, independent of wealth. (Though because everything is connected to everything else, this can't be drawn too far: a rich enough country without any state retirement system will probably still have childless couples due to a reliable private retirement savings scheme. You've really got to dig around in low/middle income countries for this kind of thing.)

The liberal west is more economically developed than the DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam. China is an interesting outside case where it is more developed in some respects and less developed in others. There is no "communist" variable in the way you seem to wish there was. Cuba is governed by a communist party, and in that sense is "more communist", but it is economically underdeveloped, and is in that sense further from communism. This is obviously well above your pay-grade, but someone elPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2807596
Is there a single person outside Mainland China who sees more gay behaviour from Chinese than Western people? Where are the queer parades with 100+ million attendees? Where's the multitrillion gay club industry?



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As the title says.

  1. Thanks to "bloodline theory", if your parents or grandparents belonged to a "black class", you would be murdered. This would mean that Marx and Engels, along with much of leftypol's userbase, would unironically be murdered. Didn't matter if you sided with the bureaucracy or the anti-bureaucrat "radicals", both were doing the murdering. Of course "bloodline theory" flies in the face of Mao's own theory, but that didn't matter.

  2. Critical thinking, like the young man Yu Luoke (himself a factory prole apparently) who engaged with Marx's works directly to disprove "bloodline theory", would get you killed as well (he was executed by firing squad, despite Mao denouncing "bloodline theory").

  3. Speaking of Mao, Mao himself had no clue what he was doing. He never explicitly instructed what needed to be done. This ambiguity led to both sides believing they were acting in accordance with Mao's views.

The fact that this incoherent disaster "inspired" the Western Left at the time (New Left) is the cherry on top of the "what the FUCK were you people thinking". The resulting silence today with regards to it I take as a quiet admission of the fact.
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<instead of changing the bourgeois school system invented in Prussia, let's kill the teachers, this will surely accomplish something
Infantile disorder. Petty-bourgeois radicalism. And communists on leftypol and the rest of the internet continue to make the same error of not actually studying anything except communist texts, and then think they know how to run society. What they fail to understand is that communist texts are like physics books, physics books don't actually teach you engineering, nor do engineering books teach you how to be a car mechanic. I hope that analogy makes sense because I struggle to articulate more concisely why the current approach leads to retardation like the Cultural Revolution, or the various man error famines that occured in 20th century socialist states.

>>2804348
because i said so

>>2804183
who are you even arguing with though? most people would agree with this even communists and maoists no?

>>2809572
when did marx told people to go kill teachers thoughbeit

>>2806296
>due to the "scientific" language you use, you will never actually achieve the "Mass Line"
thats not historically true the poorest from the third world are often more receptive to this scientific language than the propagandized workers of the west that they actually understand what the fancy words mean is entirely another issue



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