/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1582543
Source: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

>>1582518
WEAK ENERGY….WEAK

>>1582518
Natural reaction to scare libs away

>>1581478
They'll rise or fall without my engagement either way
I'd rather talk to people online

>>1581480
Stupid

>>1581482
Im only in my mid 20s so i dont exactly think im vanguard material yet
You can larp as a bunch of vegan bolsheviks all u like if u want tho

>>1581474
>Liberals misuse
it is a liberal concept

end of story

>>1581082
Actually no. Dab. (read a book) (also: imagine going into a thread to say "your informed model of events is actually better explained by random chance!" Don't come and disagree with LESS information)

>>1581415
Since you say congress I assume you're talking about the US -
I think the crisis also definitely includes the prison slavery and police brutality problems, the specific political disenfranchisement of black people, chicanos and indigenous people, and immigrants (documented and undocumented), as well as the current fascist push to literally dismantle public education as well as any kind of downwardly redistributive government role, while liberalizing (or making more amenable to bosses in general) labor law regarding people with no prior history of strong labor unity (minors, prisoners, undocumented immigrants)

So I heavily agree, and I think the way we will get them to fall left rather than right is to keep them away from identification with the dominant culture in society, with white supremacy and patriarchy. These things are not just fascist (they're usually more mundane), they are the way that could-be radicals make a conservative turn; they get their individual needs met by the dominant in society (the capitalists, the state, the institutions, etc.), and they decide that's good enough and stop supporting new progressive change. This is why intersectionality is part of the solution, and is totally in fitting with communist aims. >>1581436
(noticed)

(btw intersectionalism is actually specifically against this kind of idea of simple intersections (don't ask me why its called that then…) - for an example, within an intersectional framework, a black woman's oppression is not just a white woman's sexed oppression plus a black man's racial oppression. It's a unique position within society, that's not reducible to abstracted conceptions of "blackness" or "womaneness". Intersectionalism is the concrete, to right-wing idpol's abstract understandings)

TLDR: you stupid monke. You are correct, but you misattribute your critique.

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>>1582397
>Fascists don't particularly care about respecting private property
>they don't reduce the power of the state to interfere in capitalism, they don't care for "free markets,"
afaik this is wrong, which is exactly why their war industry was so fucking shitty, because they were obsessed with letting porkies compete and make profit

>>1582334
They think the others' methods don't work, and in typical cases don't recognise they have the same results. Neolibs don't say 'let's kill all the jews and gays', neo-fascists typically blame those groups for the world's problems and are more isolationist.
>why are anarcho-communists and marxism-leninists so opposed to each other, their end goal is literally the same

>>1582628
> they see fascism or "authoritarianism" instrumentally, as a means to restore the "free market" and destroy socialist tendencies, not because their views are equivalent to fascist views.
wow how did this fascism end up in my anticommunism?!?!?! who could have guessed this would happen?!?!?!??!?! they definitely haven't always been the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot talk about interwar Germany without mentioning how Stalin helped support the NSDAP in the 20s through covert means because they had a few socialistic elements (who either got purged or started to worship Hitler’s schizophrenic worldview). Hitler was also involved in the Bavarian Soviet Republic, as were other Nazis…

>>1582635 (NTC)
>why do neoliberals and fascists not have the exact same observations as i do?????!?!?!?!??????!?!?//?
>being ignorant enough to conflate equality with subsets
Fuck off to hex or wherever until you can have a productive conversation.

>>1580018
there were plenty of commies jew, which at first even were most of their armed forces. Kibbutz were collectivized villages.
the hope they would manage to make a socialist state that would have welcomed arabs was coherent at first
obviously the reactionary retards and liberals won, and now its clearly a shitty settler state deserving of nuclear annihilation

>>1580858
I've hidden his posts pretty much instantly, if only all the retards used an easy to filter name

>>1580018
Similar case today with some people placing too much hope on some startup companies, which will then go bankrupt and therefore the same people cannot gain any returns from it.

Israel is a startup state, and the Soviets hoped that it'll become communist, instead it went full-blown Western-backed.

Is that enough for you, /pol/ basement dweller?

>>1580018
it seemed like a good idea at the time

>>1580889
>[The US] Is complicated.
Funny how the True Principled Socialists don't take the same "nuanced" approach towards the USSR or China that they take towards 0bama or the EU or the Libyan and Syrian "revolutions" and the Maidan.

>>1582226
damn, this works against the rank and file soldiers since then the officers have self-interest in the soldiers doing a mediocre job in the hopes some of them die to enrich themselves.

>>1582231
Good point, it incentivises a particularly unethical officer to let soldiers die and not report it.

On a tangentially-related note of military corruption, didn't Castro get CIA dosh for being a rebel and then fuck them over? I heard that somewhere but never checked if it was true.
also daily reminder to find a Proud Boys/Neo-Nazi/GoyimTV contact and claim your non-existent cell needs funding. You could even collaborate with local communists to pretend you're active and putting banners up and then the commieparty get credit for 'taking them down' later that night (taking a photo of a torn banner in their backyard) and get a large cut. my naive intuition is that most antifa anarchists are too principled to get involved in underhanded win-win stuff like lying about success stories

>>1582239
>my naive intuition is that most antifa anarchists are too principled to get involved in underhanded win-win stuff like lying about success stories

honestly to me it just feels like a waste of time, and if you get caught it looks worse than if you never did it in the first place. grifting funds for these right wing networks is a great idea though and can be used for real work, could also cause disunity and suspicion in them

ukraine definitely is having this issue right now of officers confiscating dead soldier pay

>>1536322
That clip of Putin is so sad. The achievement of the Red Army reduced to simple nationalism. Darkest reaction vibes.

>>1536340
That is cause Russia is in the hands of capitalists

>>1582325
pissing on the memory of the soldiers who gave their lives to free Europe from Nazism

>>1538289
>pretending dengists and ziggas cant be well read communists
fuck off moron

Thank you based news anon.

UAW strike fund provides backstop to workers in event of automaker strike
The fund totals more than $825 million, meaning the union could strike all three automakers for 12 weeks before its backstop is exhausted, according to Evercore ISI analysts. "While the union obviously doesn't want to deplete this fund … the UAW has ample resources to continue paying its membership's 'strike pay' for many weeks, only running out of funding in the event of a prolonged" labor stoppage, Evercore ISI analyst Chris McNally wrote.
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/25/uaw-strike-fund-gm-stellantis-ford

NLRB paves way for workers to unionize without formal elections
The board's 3-1 decision in a case involving building materials company Cemex Construction Materials could provide a major boost to unions by allowing them to represent workers in certain cases when a majority sign cards in support of unionizing, rather than going through the lengthy and often litigious election process.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/nlrb-paves-way-workers-unionize-without-formal-elections-2023-08-25/

Is China really buying up U.S. farmland? Here’s what we found
State and federal lawmakers are pushing to regulate foreign ownership of U.S. real estate because of fears that Chinese entities are creating a national security risk by amassing swaths of U.S. farmland, some of it near sensitive sites. A review by NBC News of thousands of documents filed with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, however, shows very few purchases by Chinese buyers in the past year and a half — fewer than 1,400 acres in a country with 1.3 billion acres of agricultural land. In fact, the total amount of U.S. agricultural land owned by Chinese interests is less than three-hundredths of 1%.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/how-much-us-farmland-china-own-rcna99274

U.S. judge cancels hearing on Mexican suit against gun-makers, Mexico says
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Under Justin Trudeau, Canada Is Abetting Saudi Arabia’s War Crimes in Yemen
Earlier this month, a report from Human Rights Watch detailed a series of brutal killings carried out by Saudi Arabian guards on the country’s border with Yemen. Hundreds — many of them seeking asylum from the humanitarian crises created by Saudi Arabia’s brutal war in Yemen — have been killed since March 2022, with survivors recounting live-fire attacks. It’s ultimately just one snapshot of a war being that has reportedly killed hundreds of thousands of people, carried out by one of the world’s most authoritarian regimes. Meanwhile, in June 2023 alone, Canada exported some $247 million worth of armored vehicles to the Saudis — a less-than-negligible figure, but also just a small snapshot in a much larger pattern. In recent years, Canada has emerged as a leading supplier of weapons to Saudi Arabia, and the Canadian government’s own reporting shows that the value of shipments totaled $1.15 billion in 2022. Saudi Arabia, in fact, now accounts for a whopping 49 percent of all Canadian arms shipments, with the next biggest recipient (the United Arab Emirates) a distant second at just 17 percent. While Canada has provided other equipment to the Saudi military, including thousands of rifles, the lion’s share of such exports have been light armored vehicles (LAVs) sold as part of a monster $15 billion arms contract brokered by the Conservative government of Stephen Harper in 2014. The following year, having savaged the deal while in opposition, Justin Trudeau’s Liberals swept into office promising a more humane and multilateral foreign policy.
https://jacobin.com/2023/08/justin-trudeau-saudi-arabia-arms-sales-war-crimes-yemen

Private Military Companies Continue to Expand in Africa
In the wake of the July 26 coup in Niger, the world’s spotlight has once again turned to the expansion of private military and security companies (PMSCs) across Africa. Following the removal of the relatively pro-Western government, Niger’s new military rulers asked Russian PMSC Wagnerto help defend against a possible military intervention by the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken warning of the PMSC seeking to exploit the instability. In a continPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1579502
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It completely depends on the conditions of the country/subcontinent.

1. Imperial core: "Mao spontex"/cybernetic Maoism-Cockshottism
2. Semi-periphery: Marxism-Leninism (anti-revisionist)
3. Periphery: Protracted People's War (Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Indians and Filipinos as guides for praxis)

All to utilize mass line. Third to utilize rural-to-city PPW. Second and first to utilize (eventual, after mass movement built and bourgeois class/state in crisis) city-to-rural insurrection.

>>1582186
>Mao spontex
seems like maoist bordigism tbh

It is a sectarian approach to try and delineate maosim, mlm-mzt, mlm-pm, maoism-thirdworldism etc etc etc. It is actually very similar to utopian socialists (owenite, gorgist etc) who base themselves on some tiny doctrine or individual thinker rather than trying to creatively apply a scientific framework to the real conditions of history.
What lenin, Stalin, mao, ho chi mihn, joma all did was use Marxism, the party form, and the theory of imperialism as a loose guide to an incredibly complex situation. They did not apply doctrine, they applied their fucking brains and it worked. Gang of four tried to elevate maoism to the level of doctrine and failed politically. Gonzalo by started from doctrine and the shining path ended up failing pretty much. Mao succeeded by abandoning comintern doctrine, not because he discovered the perfect doctrine but because he realized that doctrine is not revolutionary theory because it is static. No amount of rhetoric can make any doctrine dialectical. Actual successful revolutionaries work on programmatic grounds and try to achieve that program by any means, they do not absorb a theoretical doctrine and regurgitate it, because revolutions are not led by midwits.

Why do doctrinal debates seem to concern the western left so much? Micro sext "Organizers" in developed countries are not often actually trying to solve any tractible problem and cannot creatively apply social science and therefore get in the habit of reading doctrine. This is shown in a microcosm in the achievement followed by the dilapidation of the CPUSA under Foster (organizing the steel towns, new forms of unionism to displace the reactionary AFL) vs Bowser (strict party builder, absorbing Soviet popular front doctrine)

>>1576276
Go join the Ukrops and get obliterated by a stray shell fired by a dude with a soviet patch on his uniform.

>>1575247
IRAN SUPER POWER 2035! ALL HAIL KHOMEINI DEATH TO AMERIKKKA!

>>1575274
I would say that this isn't entirely true, since they have the likes of Friedrich Feder who was the intellectual workhorse of the party(writing the NSDAP Manifesto and one of their few economic treatises[The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation]), however what is there just seems to piggyback off what you would hear from your average liberal—a capitalism without abusive credit, where government steps in to make sure the balance of small businesses is not disturbed(traditionally, of course, we can't forget tradition).

Modern Nazis(or at least the stark minority that do like to read) tend to copy the homework of libertarian economists like the Chicago or Austrian schools. How they reconcile this level of thinking with a welfare state(although it does make privatization a bit more sensible) is beyond me.

>>1582279
>>1582279
anyone got that quote of a meeting between mussolini and hitler where the latter talk about being the reincarnation of a conqueror or some shit and mussolini is confused as fuck ?