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I want to start by saying that I have been involved in aid work and activism in my country for over a decade now. I have seen a lot and I think one thing that needs to be clarified is just how bad things are. Not all third-world countries are this bad, but mine is. People are living worse than animals and in absolute misery
The upper middle class tries to disconnect from this reality. They either flee to the West or isolate themselves in gated communities, but even they are still confronted with poverty. The lower classes have cheap entertainment, but they too live with delusions and fantasies. For socialists however, there is no escape. We are forced to confront this failure daily and feel powerless, knowing we cannot change anything.
Ultimately, the only conclusion we have reached is that our states desperately require centralized authority for any kind of development. Without that, we are doomed to continue living in these conditions. I am sorry but Marxist-Leninism and orthodox Marxism are not going to take hold right now. Maybe they could in the future, but at present I would describe myself simply as a socialist who wants improvement for my country and nothing else.
The only path for development in the third world is authoritarian socialism
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>>2815822
Are you the same guy who said he didn't care if Fascists came to power in Europe and that he didn't care about diaspora?

>>2817150
I’ve said that I don’t view Fascism as the “anti-Christ” ideology that most Western leftists do. Anything that can most effectively dismantle or radically change the current world system would be ideal. As for the diaspora, I’m ambivalent. I think they should return home with the money they make and try to improve our home nations/

>>2815824
Once again this site is filled with silicon valley type freaks and show that no hope its possible for the modern world as we have murdered any sense of imagination

>>2815839
I’m almost sickeningly curious about what’s going to happen to countries that never industrialized but still reached below-replacement birth rates. Obviously It won’t mean “my country will be extinct in 23.4 years,” but it could radically change the economy and would basically force governments to change the status quo.

>>2817423
That sounds great



 

Terrisa Bukovinac is 100% anti-Zionist and refuses to take a penny from AIPAC. She will not kiss the wall. She is also very attractive and conservative (which most working-class people are) AND a socialist. Ziorats will most likely run a smear campaign against her do she needs all the love she can get.

Reminder stopping Zionists starts with voting against their puppets in Congress. The left needs to do as much as it can for Palestine, and one of the best things it can do is campaign for politicians who are openly anti-Zionist.

And can we PLEASE get Jimmy Dore or Caleb Maupin to interview her?
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>>2817177
>kiss the wall
What?

>>2817336
Like it or not, most working-class people are twats like me.

>>2817342
I don't know why you think I'm baiting, but I can assure you I'm not.

>>2817353
Humiliation ritual

She seems like an airhead.

Leftypol mods confirmed pro-aipac, probably receive aipac money



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Italy on strike again for Palestine
Thousands of workers across Italy joined a new general strike on May 18, demanding complete severance of ties with Israel, an end to armament policies, and protection for the new civilian flotilla to Gaza – which was attacked again by Israeli forces on the very day of the strike. “We launched today’s general strike with the same strength and spirit as on September 22, 2025: ‘Let’s block everything’ has been and remains the watchword in our struggle against war, against complicity with the genocidal state of Israel, and against rearmament,” the grassroots trade union Unione Sindacale di Base (USB) wrote.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/05/19/italy-on-strike-again-for-palestine/

Unions hit out at ‘epidemic of insecure work’ as economic fallout from Iran war revealed
UNIONS hit out at an “epidemic of insecure work” as the economic fallout from the Iran war was revealed for the first time today. Youth unemployment has risen to its highest rate in more than a decade with one in seven (14.7 per cent) 16 to 24-year-olds looking for work. .. .. ..
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/unions-hit-out-epidemic-insecure-work-economic-fallout-iran-war-revealed

“We will give our chest to your bullets, but will not cede an inch of our land”: farmers resist city expansion in southern India
Farmers in the south Indian state of Karnataka have been protesting for over a year in defense of their land. On May 10, day 426 of their protest against the notified acquisition of fertile, irrigated land in Ramanagara district to expand Bangalore city, farmers occupied the Byramangala roundabout. Cutting off all four connecting roads with bullock carts and tractors, over 3,000 farmers protested in this roundabout. Scores of cows and bulls they brought along chewed on the cattle feed in this critical node on a state highway, whose occupation disconnected the neighboring industrial areas of Bidadi and Harohalli.​ ….
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Students block access to RUM despite court order.
Students at several campuses launched demonstrations to demand the resignation of UPR President Zayira Jordán Conde after she removed several chancellors. The protesters also said the president is doing little to defend the university from budget cuts and attempts to privatize it.
https://www.sanjuandailystar.com/post/students-block-access-to-rum-despite-court-order

Workers on New York commuter rail end their strike after wage deal
The workers, represented by five labor unions, began ​their work stoppage on Saturday to force the ​state-controlled Metropolitan Transportation Authority to agree to a new contract at the bargaining table. The workers said they had ​not received any wage increases in three years.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/workers-new-york-commuter-rail-end-their-strike-after-wage-deal-2026-05-19/

US claims ‘emergency refugee situation’ as it admits 10,000 more white South Africans
The US government has said it will increase the number of white South Africans it admits as refugees this year from about 7,500 to 17,500, claiming that “unforeseen developments in South Africa created an emergency refugee situation.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/19/us-government-increase-white-south-africa-refugees

Former Hartford police officer charged in fatal shooting of a Black man in mental distress
The officer, Joseph Magnano, was fired by the Hartford Police Department following the Feb. 27 shooting of Steven Jones, a 55-year-old man with a history of mental illness who had been walking through the street holding a large knife. Magnano was charged Monday by the Connecticut Inspector General after he turned himself into law enforcement, according to Hartford Police Union President James Rutkauski.
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Mining Company Opts Out of Controversial Project Near Sacred Site in Black Hills
On Thursday, May 7, a mining company announced it was stopping operations three days after tribes and advocacy organizations were granted a temporary restraining order in federal court. On May 4, the U.S. District Court of South Dakota granted a temporary restraining order to nine federally recognized tribes and three conservation nonprofit organizations, stopping a controversial drilling project that tribes say threatened a sacred site in the Black Hills. “Pete Lien & Sons, Inc. wishes to formally withdraw the Plan of Operations for the Rochford Mineral Exploration Project and requests the United States Forest Service withdraw the Decision Memo that was entered on February 27, 2026,” wrote Brian Tideman, the Chief Operating Officer of Pete & Lien & Sons to U.S. Forest Service Ranger Jim Gubbels on May 7. “Pete Lien & Sons does not intend to apply for another CE [Categorical Exclusion] or file another Plan of Operations for exploratory drilling at this site.” The mining company’s decision was widely celebrated by tribes and their advocates, with many saying that the withdrawal is a success. The project’s mining permit was recently granted by the U.S. Forest Service on February 27, 2026, where the agency issued a Decision Memo approving the Rochford Mineral Exploratory Drilling Project, near Pe’Sla.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/mining-company-opts-out-of-controversial-project-near-sacred-site-in-black-hills/

“There’ll be riots”: Farage gets in line to implement austerity
These days, Reform’s approach has taken a sharp pro-market turn, in order to curry favour with the capitalist elite. The party has been accepting the defection of opportunist Tories, and implementing austerity in local councils under its control – councils that are, in true establishment fashion, also swimming in corruption scandals. Farage is beginning to make it clear on which side his bread is buttered: on the side of capital, as his Reform’s list of party donors attests. Recently, Farage has come out with statements about Britain needing to become a “much tougher society”. As part of this new, “tougher” vision for the future, the Reform leader has promisedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Russia had no good reason to invade Ukraine, Ukraine has good reason to resist Russian occupation but should be open to ceding territory in return for peace if possible. I do not buy that the Far-Right parties around the world that defend this invasion were actually le based prole-pilled geniuses the entire time. Prove me wrong.
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>>2805008
>this isn't Russia invading Ukraine
Putin was literally on live TV announcing the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Braindead zigger bots still trying to gaslight people with Kremlin talking points

saw someone say "zigger" in the wild

crazy shit out there

>>2816392
What, like IRL or on another website?

>>2815723
>>2815724
>>2815788
>You don't understand what state capitalism is. State capitalism means controlling the market with public companies so that capitalism within a country goes in a certain direction.
I know what state capitalism is, as I communist I oppose it.
>This facilitates public policies where eventually a national bourgeoisie develops and foreign capital remains under control.
Proof?
>In Brazil, unlike the state capitalism of the Vargas period, the Second Republic, the military business junta, and the New Republic, there was a dependent industrialization with a more limited state capitalism to support the interests of capitalists, which eventually led to problems that Brazilian left-wing developmentalists failed to understand.
So the state-caputalist period of Vargas lead to privatization and neoliberalism, this proves my point right, the establishment of state capitalism, if it empowers the national bourg, results in privatization policies and deindustrialization under the direction of the national bourg. Again, this is evidence that YOUR position is wrong, not mine, I DO NOT wish to empower nat bourgs, you do.
>here is no possible agreement between the national bourgeoisie and labor to reindustrialize the country when everything has already been financialized.
Again, this argument is AGAINST YOUR IDEOLOGY, when you empower the national bourg, the end up gaining power and influencez and instead of engaging in socialism they privatize state enterprises and deindustrialize.
>This means that to reindustrialize a country there must at least be the use of state capitalism and state-owned enterprises to force reindustrialization, using these enterprises to compete against private companies, no matter how many go bankrupt, to facilitate occupations, nationalizations, collectivizations, and socializations because capitalists will only speculate in the financial market anyway, and therefore only communists have solutions.
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>>2818577
socialism is a process not a static set of policies



 

Can we get a thread going for Pridnestrovie? Last I heard, Moldova was trying to get the land back. So long as Russia's backing them, Moldova can't do anything.
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>>2816737
everyone in the country either works abroad or is supplemented by someone who does
you're better off in romania

>>2816755
I live neither on Romania nor Moldovan, I live in Southern Europe
>>2816752
Mm thanks, I wanted to Russian anyways, maybe a basic Ukranian would help

>>2816715
Housing is a right there. So you'll likely be living in some ghetto Soviet-style apartment.

>>2816866
The pseudo-country is about 100% Eastern Orthodox.

>>2816866
You never been to eastern europe? It's all ghetto soviet style apartments all the way down. Unless you're in a city center, then it's glass buildings and lidls as far as the eye can see



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To be honest I’m new to leftism

I think I joined this mess and identity with these ideas is that I believe that all other ideologies have failed or will inevitably fail if they came to power, nothing will stop the endless cycle of the battle between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, communism is inevitable and nothing will stop the will of the people.

I know some of the basics of Marxism but I don’t really know a lot about economics as a whole, that’s really the problem.

Is there any book recommendations aside from the manifesto to start with? Also is this version of the manifesto good or is it complete libslop
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_West_Came_to_Rule

Also, read this if you think you can manage it. You can find it on Anna's archive or probably LibGen

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>>2815503
>Are there ideas of how to achieve that?
permanent revolution (pic related, its how it will look)


>>2814894
If you're serious about actually understanding Marxism, not the liberalized, toothless version that treats worker co-ops as the end goal, you need to ground yourself in foundational theory, not vague market-friendly nonsense.

Start with Engels for a solid orientation:

"Principles of Communism" lays out the basics in Q&A format: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

"Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" helps contrast real scientific socialism with moralistic daydreams: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engels_Socialism_Utopian_and_Scientific.pdf

Before diving into Capital, it's worth getting a grip on Marx’s political economy:

"Value, Price and Profit", dissects surplus value and wages under capitalism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/value-price-profit.pdf

"Wage Labor and Capital", earlier and simpler, good to pair with the above: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/wage-labour-capital.pdf

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Ignore the other posts. This is the only reading list you need to be a Marxist:
J. Sakai - "Settlers"
E. Said - "Orientalism"
B. ᴉuᴉlossnW - "La dottrina del fascismo"
G. Sorel - "Reflections on Violence"
P. J. Proudhon - "Conquest of Bread"
M. Bakunin - "The Program of the International Brotherhood"
K. O. Paetel - "National Bolshevist Manifesto"



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venezuelan diaspora are almost on par thinking being a US colony with no agency over their oil will somehow liberate venezuela who else would be on par or almost on par
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Venezuelan cheered when Maduro was kidnapped out of spite for not being socialist enough, I genuinely didn't get it (and no the guys I know were not diaspora) but it makes sense if you think you have no agency whatsoever over governmental policies in the first place anyway (which is true of most countries), they probably wish Delcy also get assfucked

See: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2816472.html#q2816472

They are tethers who support suffering since they know they the disastrous aftermath won’t be externalised onto them anyway.

I hate gusanos

I dont get it, if they think they are incabable of governing themselves, why dont they want to be governed by am actual successfull governement, like China's?

>>2816458
yep, indeed pretty good considering its situation

>>2816474
>cheered
no they largely didn't



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Cuba Defends Right to ‘Legitimate Defense’ After U.S. Media Claim Military Drone Acquisition
The Axios report, citing a senior U.S. intelligence official, claimed that Washington is analyzing the threat of drones from Cuba that could be used against the U.S. naval base at Guantánamo Bay, U.S. military vessels, or Key West, Florida. The report also mentioned the alleged presence of Iranian military advisors in Havana. Such information could serve as a pretext for hypothetical U.S. military action on the island, according to the Cuban government. The diplomatic row comes just days after an unusual high‑level meeting in Havana between CIA Director John Ratcliffe and Cuban intelligence officials.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/cuba-defends-right-to-legitimate-defense-after-u-s-media-claim-military-drone-acquisition/

Venezuela ‘Deports’ Former Minister, Diplomatic Envoy Alex Saab to US
The executive led by Acting President Delcy Rodríguez announced the “deportation of Colombian citizen Alex Saab Morán” through a statement issued by the Administrative Service for Identification, Migration, and Immigration (SAIME). The statement said the measure was adopted “taking into consideration that [Saab] is implicated in various crimes in the United States of America, as is publicly known and widely reported.” According to local media reports, Saab was transferred under custody from the El Helicoide detention center in Caracas to Simón Bolívar International Airport in Maiquetía, where a US government airplane was waiting for him. The operation reportedly involved agents from the FBI and the CIA, under the supervision of the US Justice and State Departments.
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuela-extradites-former-minister-diplomatic-envoy-alex-saab-to-face-us-charges/

U.S. Agencies Will Operate From Surveillance Tower in Chihuahua, Despite Recent Unauthorized CIA Presence in the Mexican State
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At least one person killed in shooting at Islamic Center of San Diego
Police rushed to the center on Monday and “neutralized” the shooter, according to authorities. Authorities had not yet confirmed any fatalities or injuries, but chairman of the mosque that was targeted confirmed to outlets that a guard had been killed.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/18/active-shooter-report-san-diego-islamic-center

Trump officials plan to repeal limits on ‘forever chemicals’ in drinking water
The Trump administration’s plan comes just two years after the US Environmental Protection Agency set legally enforceable drinking water limits for six of the most dangerous Pfas compounds that have been studied. The chemicals include some of the most toxic substances, and are linked to a range of cancers and other serious health problems.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/18/trump-administration-epa-pfas-water

Trump creates $1.8B "anti-weaponization" fund after dropping IRS suit
The dismissal comes as Trump has reportedly considered launching a $1.776 billion taxpayer-funded compensation fund for those who claim they were wrongfully targeted by the Biden administration, including Jan. 6 defendants.
https://www.axios.com/2026/05/18/trump-irs-lawsuit-dropped
https://archive.ph/ev0Qq

US states reject anti-vaccine bills as public health groups fight MAHA
Dozens of state anti-vaccine bills backed by "Make America Healthy Again" supporters have failed after public health groups won over Republican state lawmakers, marking a series of defeats for the backers ​of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Why Is the Labour Right Desperate to Rehash Brexit?: It’s like 2016 all over again.
For those of you a little out of puff after last week’s avalanche of Labour leadership maneuverings, remember: it’s a marathon not a sprint. Stay hydrated, folks, and find your pace, because we’ve exactly a month to go before 18 June. That’s the date now being reported (though still unconfirmed) on which the good people of Makerfield will select their new MP – and possibly the next prime minister. Forget the future, though: it’s history that’s been occupying Wes Streeting and Andy Burnham this weekend. Even though only Streeting has declared his intention to run, everyone and their dog knows they’re our current contenders for the Labour crown. That may explain why the recently ex-health secretary, very much the longshot in this race, decided to truly set le chat amongst i piccioni on Samstag. Yes, chicos, we’re Brexdebating like it’s 2016 all over again. “Leaving the European Union,” Wes Streeting told a meeting of the Labour right Progress group this weekend, “was a catastrophic mistake.” That’s quite the stall to set out when you’re pitching for the biggest job in politics. Guaranteed to turn the stomach of one chunk of the electorate, overstimulate the hope cores of another, and send the rest into a spiral of screaming pub lunch flashbacks, little could be more divisive. Were Streeting leading the Labour party to a general election tomorrow, ‘Catastrophic’ would be graffitied across his political tombstone the very next day. Of course, Streeting is not running for popular election anytime soon. But Andy Burnham probably is. The Greater Manchester mayor has, from the comfort of his northern throne, mused similarly in the past. “Long term,” he said of the EU at Labour conference last September, “I’m going to be honest, I’m going to say it: I want to rejoin it.”
https://novaramedia.com/2026/05/18/why-is-the-labour-right-desperate-to-rehash-brexit/

China, the “Thucydides Trap” and the Illusion of “Anti-Imperialist Multipolarity”
President Xi Jinping’s invocation of the so-called “Thucydides Trap” during the recent hosting of Donald Trump was not a neutral geopolitical observation. It reflected a real and sharpening contradiction within the imperialist systePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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why did third worldists side with maoist china over the soviet union and call the soviets social-imperialists when the soviet union supported far more national liberation movements worldwide and maoist china ended up coddling up to the USA?
was it because "white people bad"?
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Because revolutionary communism isn't about cheering for whichever side is perceived as having the bigger number. How was the Soviet Union involved in national liberation struggles? The Soviets were dragged kicking and screaming into a progressive role in Vietnam, with their involvement in national liberation struggles post-Stalin principally being self-serving and uninterested in establishing self-sufficient, revolutionary socialist states. Hence why every single "socialist" government established after the Indochinese revolutions collapsed soon before or immediately after the fall of the USSR. These weren't socialist or revolutionary, they were dependent neo-colonies.

You fail to understand the Maoist position because you look at everything as empty labels. To you, Communism is an aesthetic, politics a matter of vibes and "geopolitical" ""pragmatism"", and Maoists simply "call" others social-imperialists — you haven't bothered to do any amount of investigation to understand the essence of that critique or the meanings of these words.

>maoist china ended up coddling up to the USA

>was it because "white people bad"?
I couldn't possibly be rolling my eyes harder right now.

>>2815983
It did cuddle up with the USA although, and also invaded vietnam, an indepedent revolutionary socialist state

>>2816262
True my personal take on the Dino-Soviet split was that both sides bad but also both sides good

>>2816281
They split the T-Rex in two ? I knew he was a revisionist

>>2816389
It autocorrects sino to either Sind Dino or sink



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Hi, I'm not from the US, I'm Latino. I was very curious about this organization; I think it's the only large left-wing organization in your country.

If a civil war were to break out in the US, as we all expect from the outside, I believe it would be the only competent leftist organization that could fight.

Do you support it? Because I don't see anything better, or that's just as big.
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Also there are people in the DSA who want to break from the Democrats altogether and form a distinct party. This is difficult to do because of the nature of the American system, but I think Americans should think about what goes on in the Western Hemisphere. Morena in Mexico was actually a national movement before it moved into a party formation led by AMLO who was the popular mayor of Mexico City, and then they just took over the country when they saw that they could win a presidential election. More likely than not you will see Mamdani run for higher office as a Democrat, but I'm just saying, in these circumstances today you need to have some kind of structure to win elections, not just what Karl Marx and Lenin said. That can turn into pure ideology which can become an obstacle.

You know Houdini? He's a leftypol poster that's facing the possibility of going to jail. But that's not going to wake anybody up or convince anybody. A lot of people have gone to jail in some way related to their politics and have had no effect. What do you have to tell the worker who loses his job trying to get a better wage? That he has to sacrifice himself and build a party because capitalism is wrong? That guy doesn't give a damn about the differences between left-wing sects. You don't have to quote Das Kapital at them. You can believe in that because you're a socialist and that's how you're educated but you have to build a movement, and chapters of any movement needs autonomy at the ground level otherwise they're not going to be able to reach their communities.

>>2815819
Morena is pretty interesting to me because it seems like it kinda picked up the old more loudly suc dem national developmentalist branding that the PRI abandoned after Cárdenas. Although I do wonder what it would take for the burger unions to actually withdraw from the burger party system as it stands, given how much union involvement in politics centers on the AFL-CIA and Team$$ter$

>>2815819
I think it's probably best to understand that the way our political system is built heavily incentivizes two and only two parties. 3rd party candidates often cannot even get on the ballot so people can vote for them. That's why despite both parties being unpopular there aren't real alternatives and why DSA has a bizarre "let's grow within a party so that we can usurp and destroy that party" plan. Will it work? Probably not, but it's been 250 years, and 3rd parties are less effective than ever.

DSA is too big tent to say they would all organize into a unified militant force and how a civil war actually develops and which foreign powers get involved probably changes things.

>>2815810
>>2812799
The DSA does have a large anti-Democrat even revolutionary faction though the party is controlled by socdem democrats that are ruining the org. I personally think the left-DSA should split and United with greens psl, etc… to form a United front and eventual fight in the civil war by the 2040s/50s and win.

>>2812807
All national socialism is democratic socialism, bit not all democratic socialism is national socialism.



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