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 No.973868[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

So no threads on sri lanka?

Shits on fire yo, ripe for revolution

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/05/15/violence-intensifies-in-major-riots-in-sri-lanka-over-economic-crisis/
https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/cash-strapped-sri-lanka-out-of-petrol-says-pm-1109768.html

NO PETROL
NO IMPORTS
FOOD RUNNING SCARCE
MASS RIOTING AND LOOTING
REPORTS OF CANNIBALISM ALREADY HAPPENING
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>>1025879
Word by word.

 No.1025920

>>1025879
>we have had successful proletarian & peasant revolutions overthrowing existing orders for the ends of communism.
Sure, but can we do those litterally right now? Probably not, right?

 No.1026127

>>1025920
can we snap our fingers and produce the capacity for a revolution out of nothing? obviously not, that's why you need to organize. you dont need a ton of people, you just need some committed, mature people who can commit to doing productive things for at least a few years at a time.

find a few likeminded people in your area. find the poor & working class people in your area and see what they need: food, other goods, help getting around, tutoring, help with job applications/other paperwork, trouble with their landlords, trouble with the police? then see if anybody else is already doing anything, find out if its helping or doing nothing. if its helping try, to help while remaining independent and be open about being communist without being obnoxious or evangelizing. if its not helping, find out why and try to fill in the gaps. if nobodys addressing the problem at all, do what you can to help, somethings better than nothing, just make an effort and try and fail and try again. most importantly try to get to know the people and community youre dealing with. commit to doing this 2 days out of the month and dont worry too much about organizational shit like official roles and political statements and formal meetings until you have the manpower necessary & the logistics that make such organizational formality necessary, otherwise itll waste everyones time and clog things up. when its necessary only formalize what you need to effectively delegate so that everyone can know what their responsibilities are without having to go to endless meetings and always know everything thats going on

it takes a long time but its how you get experience and its how anything meaningful is built by communists, at the very least create a locally sympathetic reputation.

theres no excuses, you just gotta do it and keep at it

 No.1026134

>>973878
Based in the same way the IRA was based. Both were socialist, but their primary goals were national liberation.

 No.1027764

Sri Lanka government workers get Fridays off to grow food ahead of shortages
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/15/sri-lanka-government-workers-get-fridays-off-to-grow-food-as-shortages-loom
Permaculture bros?



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 No.628938[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The previous thread died (is full) for our sins. >>326202
>>>/leftypol_archive/485713.
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Everything Russia related belongs here.
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>>1019594
they've just renamed the domain
https://vkpb-andreeva.ru/

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 No.1027363

Why didn't Russia join the EU, again? It's not that they're too conservative or poor, since there are counties like Hungary and Greece in the EU as well.

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>>1027363
because Putin started cosplaying an epic patriotic leader

 No.1027714

отличный обзор ситуации с левыми в Украхе от чела из РФУ и Батова



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 No.1025165[Reply]

This guy has somehow found a way to blame Marxism for the Holocaust. The video is titled "The REAL Reason why Hitler HAD to start WW2" and it has a million and a half views. Someone I know is deep into TIK's argument (he tried to claim he pieced it together himself from primary sources like Mein Kampf but TIK is literally the only guy talking about "shrinking markets theory") and I'm not 100% sure how to refute him. Just for background, TIKhistory is a hardcore Austrian School lolbert who makes some laughable errors (Keynes was a Marxist for one) but I want to address his specific economic argument, not ad hominem attacks on him.

Videos:

The REAL Reason why Hitler HAD to start WW2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQGMjDQ-TJ8

Why they don't tell you about Hitler's "Shrinking Markets" problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2OFpO8fyo
(First five minutes breaks down all the alleged "Marxist" ties)

So basically:

>Hitler sees that Germany is trading manufactured goods with Europe, esp. the Soviet Union, for primary goods like food and oil

>He claims, using Marxist theory (!!!) that if this trade continues, the Soviet union will industrialize, and therefore stop exporting food
>When the USSR stops exporting food to Germany, hunger riots will lead to a Marxist revolution as part of the Jewish conspiracy
>Therefore, Hitler immediately implements autarky in Germany and plans to invade Europe to seize control of its farms
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 No.1026909

Dude is a libertarian. In one of his videos he recommended a book by some mises.org author about Robber Baron Era being great.

 No.1027079

>>1026719
this only works with america tbh, since they are a melting pot of various ethnicities, so they can only identify themselves with the general geographical location and race. shit like like this would hardly fly in europe

 No.1027213

"Shrinking markets theory" just sounds like his way of saying "falling rate of profit". And it sounds like his point is (didn't watch) that Hitler tried to counteract falling rate of profit through imperial conquest, when he should have just said "falling rate of profit doesn't real" and let the free market do whatever, lol.

Just ask him why countries did colonialism and conquest to expand markets even before Marx was born.

 No.1027661

>>1027298
>There wouldn't be any holocaust survivors left in that scenario because not giving people water for 3 people already kills them.
jews are not some automaton that if you didnt feed them power, they would just die, they can and did find their own ways of sustinence



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 No.1025951[Reply]

I honestly believe India should be kick the fuck out of BRICS and be replaced by Mexico or even Iran, a far-right fanatical zionist global north cocksucking hellhole like India shouldn't be allowed.

I know Brazil elected Bolsonaro in 2018 but that was an anomaly here that most likely won't ever happen again, while being a right-wing banana republic is the norm for India
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>>1027266
This. Can't believe that mfs actually thought that BRICS was some kind of anti-imperialist justice league.

 No.1027268

>>1027254
To add to this, many Kashmiris don't want to go with Pakistan. They see Pakistan as just another colonizer. Also, it was Pakistan that caused the crisis in the first place. The original plan was to let the king of the state decide if he wants to go with India or Pakistan. Pakistan invaded before he made his decision because they were worried he might pick India even though much evidence shows he would go with Pakistan for the sake of his Muslim majority kingdom. The king acceded to India in exchange for military support against Pakistani Invaders. After the accession, UN decided to hold a plebiscite to decide who gets Kashmir but the conditions were that both India and Pakistan need to remove their armies from Kashmir before the vote. Pakistan never removed their army from their part of Kashmir so the plebiscite never happened. The ideal solution seems to be that Kashmir should be autonomous state but none of the parties seem to interested in compromise.

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>>1027266
>Tfw the GenZedong poster finds out Captain Planet isn’t real

 No.1027310

>>1025969
best take. Modi is a shithead, and? Doesnt mean we have to starve the untouchables in the Delhi ghettos. India is more than just their president.

 No.1027431

>>1027243
<Strategically what does it even matter?
>Himalayan Bulwark for undefended planes of Ganges and Yamuna from China.

>Origin of important rivers like Indus, Jhelum and Chenab https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty


>Strategic wedge between China and Pakistan, specially at a time when Pakistan gave away its portion of Kashmir region to China for a strategic road network.\https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Pakistan_Agreement#:~:text=The%20agreement%20resulted%20in%20China,by%20Lord%20Curzon%20in%201905.


<Lel I searched for Kashmir and the first thing that came up was "Should India give Kashmir to Pakistan?"

>t. diasporoid cuck
Else you would have known
1. News is about the controversy of it being asked in a recruitment exam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhya_Pradesh_Public_Service_Commission
2. Civil service exams ask such questions to test the aptitude and thinking of candidates
The news - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/indore/mppsc-question-on-kashmir-sparks-political-row/articleshow/92375902.cms
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 No.1026979[Reply]

I'm a moderate lib. Some leftists and even some libs here seem to be sympathetic to their cause. So, what's the deal with them? They seem to be having a revival in recent years. They even killed 3 CRPF jawans recently. Is the Indian State right about them? I've also heard rumours that they were the ones who gunned down Brahmeshwar Mukhiya, leader of the Ranbir Sena. It was a Bhumihar feudalist militia responsible for the massacre of many lower caste farm labourers. Is it true that they were responsible for reducing the Naxalite influence in Bihar or was it the CRPF who really did that and Bhumihars just take credit for it? I want to know your thoughts.

 No.1027000

>I'm a lib
GET OUT REEEEEEEE

 No.1027007

I'm sure someone here could answer your question OP. Also check out the South Asia general maybe: >>761253

>>1027000
STFU

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 No.1021495[Reply]

reminder that the barter economy theory of the origins of money, promoted by aristotle, adam smith, and finally marx, is wrong, and was disproven in 1985 through anthropological research. This doesn't really have any consequences for marx's most important ideas, like labor theory of value, but keep in mind that for anyone who's up to date on the barter myth, reading certain parts of capital feels very dated and irksome. It would be worth it to update Capital with annotations to this effect, despite the objections of those who think Marx is still the final word. Marxism is an immortal science. That means it has to be open to new empirical discoveries. The barter economy is something shitty and stupid Marx got from Adam Smith anyway.
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>>1022110
Yes, it hasn't, we still call capitalism capitalism after all. As i said:
>in the main – it is still correct
What i'm talking about, however, is about the other, lesser details Marx's works don't cover as well anymore (i.e. the industrial sector no longer holding the majority of workers in developed countries), and how someone should get around to make the necessary adaptations to our times (while preserving the ideas that are still valid, of course).

In other words, imagine a car that still performs like it should, but that doesn't really look that good and well maintained on the outside, and as such, doesn't really impress most people anymore. Some owners of said car may not give a fuck about it, whereas others might. It would do them good then to improve their machine and give it an more modern aura, to make it impressive to the general audience once again.

 No.1026274

Marx didnt give a historical explanation. His assumption is wrong, but the point is money had to emerge. And this is still true.

 No.1026284

>>1026257
>Also it's important to note that the trade happening between Europeans and indigenous people was trade between groups where trade deals similar to "barter" was a thing.
The Northeastern tribes and the Northwestern tribes both had trade networks that predated the arrival of the Europeans. What constitutes "internal" trade? The Algonquin tribes spoke the same language. I am not sure about what languages the Pacific coastals spoke.
>This doesn't say anything about the way that managing resources was done within a group.
It does say something, namely that a specifically moneyless system of exchange was conducted across an established network of trails and waterways, and it says that that network developed prior to the introduction of money. If the Algonquin are an exception to the rule, that's fine. Social development often features deviations from the norm, but then a similar pre-Columbian system also appeared spontaneously along the waterways of the Pacific Northwest. Marx and Smith both cite the Injuns as examples in their theories of the origin of money, and the historical record would seem to support them even if the archaeological record is inconclusive.

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>>1026269
>(i.e. the industrial sector no longer holding the majority of workers in developed countries)
It's the "countries" that don't fit the model. economies are no longer defined by imperial territorial claims the way that they were in Marx's day. Systemically, industrial workers never ceased to be the most numerous.

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>>1026284
I just read that the Duwamish and other Pacific Northwest tribes who engaged in pre-Columbian riverine trade spoke Salishan dialects, so again, it was internal trade. Also, it would seem that they used blankets in a manner similar to the Angonquin's wampum belts.



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 No.1022748[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>At Metro station Aeroport in Moscow, they put up a punching bag with Biden's full body portrait on it, everyone can have a go at him

Geopolitics General >>1004370

Cometh ye folks, cometh into the new age.
For previous threads, check >>>/leftypol_archive/

LIVE MAPS AND UPDATES

>N.B. liveuamap.com is not to be trusted, they mostly parrot Ministry of Defence, these others may not be better, check their reporting first


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/russia-ukraine-crisis-in-maps-and-charts-live-news-interactive

https://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-russian-invasion-in-real-time.html

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>>1026503
>Surrender, faggots!

 No.1027307

>70% of coal used for European electricity generation comes from Russia
lol. lol

 No.1027315

ill make a new one, gimme a sec

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>>1027319
here you go :)

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>>1026610
>>1026776
wOw ThAt ReTiReD dOd SkInSuIt SaId ThE oBvIoUs BuT iNcOnVeNiEnT tRuTh HeCkIn BaSeD bE mY iDeOlOgY dAdDy



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 No.989501[Reply]

I live in one of the happiest nations on Earth. I am paid enough through labor aristocracy to live and thrive. My needs are met and my safety is sure, the state provides public services and liberal freedoms.
Of course the 'democracy' is bullied by the bourgeois and capitalism works to keep us exploited. I want that changed, I gladly agitate and spread awareness of class conflict, but ultimately to me it's not worth my life.
So what else is there to do but push reform or hope the lumpenproles and moralists are willing to risk their lives for the cause? Unless police and military betray their jobs, there will inevitably be spilled blood in any revolution.
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>>1026184
>>994888
>All they care about is if they can put food on the table
My uyghur we are literally entering a time of high inflation that will make so the average person will not be able to put food on the table now is especially the time for organising.

 No.1026255

this reads like a fat wrote it

 No.1026302

>>1026255
>Image
What exact argument is this even making? The person who makes said statement is irrelevant to the statement itself, whether it's true or not has to be taken separately.

 No.1026316

>>1026255
i don't even smoke weed any my room looks like that, its almost like its the mental illness

 No.1026493

>>1026302
it's just contrarianism.



 No.1025926[Reply]

Ecuadorian Military Ready to Defend Democracy: Minister Lara
On Tuesday morning, Defense Minister Luis Lara stated that the Ecuadorian Armed Forces will not allow actions against "the constitutional order, democracy and the law." … The Armed Forces "view with great concern the manipulation of social protest, the growth of violence by those who have rejected dialogue, a fundamental principle of coexistence in freedom and democracy, to try to impose their demands on the State." According to the Defense Minister, the growing discontent against President Guillermo Lasso is "a deliberate attempt to use armed violence to attack democracy and threaten institutions."
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Ecuadorian-Military-Ready-to-Defend-Democracy-Minister-Lara-20220621-0007.html

Colombia’s ELN guerrillas reiterate call to resume peace talks
Colombia’s longest-living guerrilla group ELN reiterated that the rebels want to resume peace talks after Sunday’s election victory of President-elect Gustavo Petro. In a press statement, the ELN reiterated that the guerrillas continued to be “fully willing” to resume the peace talks that were initially held with former President Juan Manuel Santos. The ELN also said that they would continue their “political and military struggle” after President Ivan Duque leaves office on August 7.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-eln-guerrillas-reiterate-call-to-resume-peace-talks/

Doctors file complaint to suspend, revoke Badoy’s medical license
Another group of doctors on Monday filed a complaint with the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) to suspend or even revoke Undersecretary Lorraine Badoy’s medical license for her red-tagging of doctors and fellow physicians. A total of 17 doctors lodged the complaint against Badoy at the PRC, explaining that her red-tagging remarks and acts are “deeply unprofessional” and warrant the suspension or revocation of her certificate of registration as a physician.
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Johnson’s attacks on ‘lefty lawyers’ are childish and sinister
AT 9.30pm on Tuesday last week, five hours after the Royal Courts of Justice were supposed to have closed for the day, the Court of Appeal granted an injunction preventing the Home Office from deporting refugees to Rwanda. What lawyers call “interim relief”, the question of whether individuals can be deported, will be back in that court on June 28. Meanwhile, the High Court will have a further hearing in July which will assess whether the Rwanda scheme needs to be scrapped in its entirety. Most readers of the Morning Star will not need to be persuaded of the inhumanity of the scheme. The largest number of refugee applications in Britain last year came from Syria and Iraq. People flee to England, knowing that there are large exile populations of each nationality in London and in each of our main cities. Instead of letting refugees settle here, Boris Johnson intends to force them to live in central Africa, separated by thousands of miles from family, community ties or legal assistance.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/johnsons-attacks-lefty-lawyers-are-childish-and-sinister

AMLO’s Dilemna and the Limits of the Pink Tide
This article is a contribution to the ongoing discussion on the progressivism of the “Fourth Transformation,” the name given to the political process being led by Mexican president Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO). It presents a critical interpretation of AMLO’s administration, based on analyses published in La Izquierda Diario México and Ideas de Izquierda, and engages in debate the Mexican socialist organizations that have adapted to the government and its party. Since AMLO took office, the character of the government of the Fourth Transformation has been the subject of multiple debates that have divided the intelligentsia and the different political and ideological currents on the Left. The true scope and the obvious limits of his self-proclaimed progressivism must be continuously examined in light of the events. This is particularly important considering that different sectors of the self-proclaimed anti-capitalist and socialist Left have effectively renounced one of the cornerstones of Marxist politics: political independence from the governmenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>1025956
>US pools close, go without lifeguards amid labor shortage

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>US pools close
They are trying to pretend that the reason is something else, but we know the truth.

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 No.757798[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The other thread was full

READING
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon, YouTube and blogs
https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/
http://paulcockshott.co.uk/

Videos torrent archive
Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
Magnet link:
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 No.1026945

>>1026378
>robinson crusoe shit

 No.1027014

>>1026378
better idea would be to build a coop and grow it so big it has its own internal planned economy

 No.1027306

>>1027014
better yet, convince existing co-ops to join

 No.1030417

>>1026378
That is literal utopianism. STFU.

 No.1048493

>>1004219
good pedagogy; few errors but overall does a good job
by the by, there should be a proof of concept for these concepts?



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