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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Unconditional Surrender Edition


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💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
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>>2847739
Tribalists in general need to be destroyed. They’re a liability to the species in an era where nukes exist

>>2847739
It appears Russia’s superiority is cause for controversy

>>2847679
correct
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>>2847700
being retarded on purpose
>>2847682
what was the context of the conversation again? oh yeah, someone was chanting "commie pope" because the pope said something vaguely nice. Maybe that's the real thought killer? I'm not a fan of soyjaks either I just quickly searched the booru for something making fun of religion.

>>2847739
bruh the thread is full, why are you even posting bait like this.

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I still can't believe that the Taliban declared jihad on the United States, perpetrated 9/11 in 2001 which killed 3,000, then Operation Enduring Freedom/War in Afghanistan, which killed 2,000 more US servicemembers. We spent trillions of dollars over 20 years just to replace the Taliban with the Taliban. And now their Special Forces have US weapons and equipment, shifting the balance of power completely. Afghanistan just defeated two empires - the USSR in 10 years and the US in 20.
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>>2847014
>Also nifty how the jet fuel exploded in giant fireballs but also sloshed down multiple elevator shafts and caused explosions all over the place.

>>2847124
Islamist retard lmao

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>>2847192
I prefer to call them abrahamoids so they can't resort to "jew" as their next line of attack

36 minutes in

Inverse american exceptionalism. The belief that everything is CIA and that some islamists couldn't trick them.



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Cepeda announces Colombia’s left will challenge results of 27% of ballot boxes
Colombia’s leftist presidential candidate, Senator Ivan Cepeda, says that party lawyers will challenge the results of 27% of the ballot boxes. in a speech that followed the presidential election, Cepeda said that the lawyers of his political party, the Historic pact, were “in the process of challenging 33,000” of 122,200 ballot boxes.
https://colombiareports.com/cepeda-announces-colombias-left-will-challenge-results-of-27-of-ballot-boxes/

Bolivian authorities say no active blockades after state of emergency decree
In Santa Cruz, officials and protest leaders signed an agreement to lift a critical blockade in the town of San Julian. A federation of groups representing rural and Indigenous residents announced a pause in protests in La Paz, while maintaining they had not abandoned their demands. Five weeks of road blockades have stranded trucks and choked supplies of food, fuel and medicines to many areas.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/21/bolivian-authorities-say-no-active-blockades-after-state-of-emergency-decree
https://archive.ph/0u1Ff

Evo Morales Denounces Service Cuts in Cochabamba
Evo Morales condemned reported disruptions to electricity, telecommunications and banking services in Bolivia’s Cochabamba Tropics and questioned the response of institutions responsible for protecting citizens’ rights.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/evo-morales-service-cuts-in-cochabamba/

Venezuela: Rice Growers Stage Protest, Demand Policies to Protect National Production
The “tractorazo” saw local campesinos block one of the state’s major highways with tractors, trucks, and other heavy machinery carrying Venezuelan flags and signs with some of the main demands. Local sources estimated turnout at over 300. “We are here on behalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

USPS worker twice exposed to acid at Arizona mega-facility
Jeffrey Holliday, a 60-year-old Chandler, Arizona resident, quit his job in April after his second exposure to the hazardous chemical, which spilled from packages broken open by the Matrix East/West Sorter (MEWS)—a multi-platform behemoth that processes 50,000 packages per hour and spans nearly three football fields.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/22/oqqg-j22.html

Alan Greenspan, longtime head of the US federal reserve, dies aged 100
He was widely credited with presiding over a period of growth and prosperity in the US while helming the Fed under three Republicans and a Democrat, gaining bipartisan political support in the process. But the country’s housing market collapsed shortly after he left office, ushering in a devastating financial crisis that plunged the national economy into the worst recession since the 1930s and the Great Depression – and prompting a re-evaluation of his legacy.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jun/22/alan-greenspan-dies-aged-100

Senate passes a bipartisan housing bill aimed at increasing supply and lowering prices
It would offer funding to local governments that build more housing, including Community Development Block Grant money to places exceeding the median rate of homebuilding. It would also provide new dollars for communities to turn abandoned infrastructure into housing, and offers a framework for communities that want to reform outdated zoning regulations, which often limit larger housing developments. The legislation would allow banks to invest more in affordable housing and raise limits on the number of public housing units that can receive private financing through Section 8 funding to rehabilitate properties. And it would remove outdated requirements and expand federal financing to make manufactured homes more affordable.
https://apnews.com/article/congress-road-to-housing-act-senate-21209cb780b76fe9a22881833c2dd535

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Starmer resigns – but a whirlwind is being prepared
Andy Burnham’s victory over Reform in last week’s Makerfield by-election has started an avalanche in British politics, giving Keir Starmer the final push needed for him to resign as Labour leader and prime minister. The scale of Burnham’s win put him in a very strong position personally. With the wind in his sails, The Man Who Beat Reform is now marching south to Westminster to seize the crown. Last Friday, following the Makerfield result, Starmer was still signalling his intention to battle on. But the pressure over the weekend was too great. With the threat of mass resignations from his cabinet, the PM was forced to announce his imminent departure from Downing Street this morning. Those hoping for a smooth transition are likely to get their way. Rather than a bloody leadership contest, a simple ‘coronation’ seems to be on the cards, with potential challengers like Wes Streeting stepping aside. Burnham could be moving into Number 10 as early as next month. But far from calming matters, this changing of the guard is only going to light the fuse on a new, even more explosive period, as the crisis of British capitalism intensifies.
https://communist.red/starmer-resigns-but-a-whirlwind-is-being-prepared/

Bolivia: Union Leaders’ Agreements with Paz Are a Betrayal of the Movement
Just when Rodrigo Paz most needed to show that he is regaining political initiative, he has received a lifeline from the union leaderships of Huanuni and Colquiri. While every day and at every roadblock, votes are cast to strengthen and advance the unity of the mobilized sectors and expand the mobilizations against the Paz Government, from above, a different direction has begun to take hold. The COB (Bolivian Workers Federation) effectively abandoned its demand for Paz’s resignation, nullified the prospect of an effective general strike, and opened negotiations with the Paz government. Now, the union leaderships in Huanuni and Colquiri are taking another step in that same direction. These negotiations have only helped Paz and improved his position. Meanwhile, COB leader Mario Argollo is left hanging, without the support of the peasantry, who accuse him of being a traitor, and without the support of his own working-class base, whose unions hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Alan Greenspan, longtime head of the US federal reserve, dies aged 100

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Step 1. Organize political party able to take state power.
Step 2. Proletarian dictatorship
Step 3. Pic related
Step 4. Socialism / Communism
Questions?

>>2847367
Trust the plan. Comrades in control. WWG1WGA. - ML



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i see people here constantly talk about theory and the writers of said theory so i'm kinda curious what everyone's taste is for stuff outside of philosophy.



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The concept of social murder, as Engels developed it, represents one of Marxism's most genuinely valuable theoretical contributions to moral and political philosophy. Its power lies in a crucial insight: that moral responsibility for death and suffering need not be located in individual malice or conscious intention, but can inhere in structural arrangements that systematically produce preventable harm. This is an insight that transcends its original polemical context and remains analytically useful across ideological lines — one can accept it without accepting the broader Marxist theoretical apparatus, much as one can accept marginal utility theory without being a committed libertarian.

It is precisely *because* the concept is valuable that the use to which many Marxists have put it is so morally horrifying.

The Leninist and Maoist deployment of social murder runs as follows: capitalist structural arrangements produce preventable death on a mass scale; this constitutes a form of murder; murder of this magnitude and systematic character justifies revolutionary violence, suspension of civil and religious liberties, militarism, and the coercive apparatus of the vanguard state. The concept, in other words, is converted from a tool of moral analysis into a blank check for political violence. The gravity of the indictment is made to justify the severity of the remedy, with no ceiling specified and no accounting required.

The contradiction here is not merely rhetorical but logical, and it cuts at the internal consistency of the framework itself. The moral force of the social murder concept derives entirely from its consequentialist and structuralist character — it condemns capitalist arrangements not because capitalists are evil in their intentions but because their system produces measurable, preventable death regardless of intent. This is precisely what makes it powerful. But this logic is a double-edged instrument. Once moral responsibility is detached from intention and attached to structural outcomes, that standard cannot be selectively applied. It cannot be wielded against the old order and then quietly retired when evaluating the new one.

Yet this is exactly what actually existing socialist states required. The famines of the Great Leap Forward, the mortality of the Gulag system, the epidemiological decline of Soviet males in the 1960s and 70s, the environmental devastation that produced preventable illness across the EPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2846742
Enjoyed reading this but isnt this just moralism? Leninists (at least here) reject this and appeal to class interest instead.

>>2846742
Sure but like the rest of the 20th century horrors it was an outgrowth of Rousseauian totalitarianism. No dissenting voices allowed under the sovereign will! When the crowd speaks that's God, and the Party speaks for the crowd.

>>2846980
It's in my class interest to be crowded like sardines in a concrete labyrinth full of strangers so I can inhale chemicals and microparticles and toil in a factory.

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>>2846742
I'm sorry, but no amount of Eurocommunism will save you this time. It is out of your hands, socdem-anon. The forces coming for you and yours will not be cowed, nor do they need even a facade of socialism as an enemy.

It doesn't matter if you spend every waking moment trying to defuse organized resistance to the new fascism necessary to fight for NATO and US hegemony, to the inevitable bitter end. It will not matter if you indeed convince every leftoid to adopt your christian morality and find every other cheek in their body for the fascists to trample.

It's all liberals now, nobody is coming to expropriate your oh-so-loved bourgeoisie. They are coming for your weath,your global privilege and the liberals at home will sooner do shock therapy at home to get in the graces of the new cold war winners than give up a single point of quarterly profit growth. You seem to think that your role as consumer in the imperial core is guaranteed.

Buddy, friendo. Before the century is over, NATO will look like South East Asia did in the 90s. It will be your kind who labors in sweatshops and produces cheap tat for the new Asian imperial core consumer base of global labor aristocracy. It will be your land which exists to impress (sex) tourists and landlords. Your politics? Oh boy, compradors all the way down.

You don't need to reject communism, authoritarianism, internationalism or what have you.

Nobody is coming to save you from your choices. You will enjoy them in full.

a political regime's policiesmassive casualties or harsh wartime measures are determined by external circumstances. For example, Leniwartime communist policies during the Russian Civil War were necessary because his enemies were extremely vicious and would stop at nothing. The White Army had no social base except for their brutal Cossack cavalry.

It's true that the Great Leap Forward caused unnecessary losses, but without the industrial reforms and opening up that took place in the first thirty years after the founding of New China, the country wouldn't have been able to take off (after all, the Four Thirds Plan, which was largely pushed by the "capitalists" who were later criticized, like Deng Xiaoping and Zhou Enlai, introduced fertilizer and related manufacturing technologies). So some strategies simply can't yield immediate results

>>2847245
I mean "the external environment is equally important," not "completely dependent on the external environment"



 

What is pre-Revolutionary conditions in the modern day and is the United States already within those conditions?
I believe Colombia is an prime example of an nation in pre-revolutionary conditions compared to any else
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>>2846672
Didn't know 12 million Colombians were of the Epsteinite Class.

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>>2846672
blatantly rigged. the count hasn't finished and that mf declared himself the winner on TV and jd vance congratulated him. and there were anomalies detected. the whole fucking thing stinks. but yeah i don't know if it's in pre revolutionary conditions regardless. i suppose every country es at every moment if you think about it haha if ykwim 🌿🚬 🌿🚬 🌿🚬 🌿🚬

>>2846641
>more or less a lot of the same conditions are present in the US today that were present in pre-revolutionary Russia
By February 1917 they were losing territory along with already having suffered two million dead (wounded being some multiple of that). Inflation right now sucks, it's 4.2%, but it's not 400%. In that situation money essentially stopped being a store of value. It's not $20 burger, it's no burger.

>>2846797
>no burger
NOOOOOOOOO



 

I'm pretty skeptical of Michael Hudson kinds of narratives on financialization and rentiers. But I'm not really sure I properly understand how rent works. It seems to me that capitalism stagnates due to the falling rate of profit and not due to high rents and debts. If anything high rent and debt are mostly signs of a large amount of industrial development and a high demand for raw resources. I am particularly skeptical that investment into real estate is the cause behind deindustrialization. If anything the big real-estate investment trusts are a consequence of a worldwide larger and larger demand for raw resources due to the industrialization of the semi-periphery.

why looks for a clear chain of cause and effect when most phenomena have both many causes and many effects and even when A can be said to cause B, B can also be said to cause A in a feedback loop?

TFRP, absent anything else, doesn't really explain very well why capitalism would have periodic crises, much of what goes into the specifics of crises when they happen is an issue of finance. I don't believe Hudson puts finance at the primary driver of capitalism or what have you, he's focused on mid-level economics, which is, in capitalism, broadly handled through finance.

>>2846725
A demand for resources doesn’t automatically mean more jobs extracting such resources. If workers don’t have jobs, high rents/debts become an immediate issue.

Look at this graph https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/VAPGDPFI

Finance and real estate don't seem to be a very big component of GDP, nor do they appear to be increasing much.



 

Fuck this guy. I’m tired of seeing liberals and even “principled” leftists like Jacobin Mag prop him up as the greatest thing to happen to American leftism, like he’s sone kind of modern-Day William Z Foster.

In reality, Mamdani is a total fraud. He’s pandered to Zionists even before taking office. Then after taking office he’s sucked up to Chabad-Lubavitcher which is a satanic racist Jewish supremacist org with ties to the Russian mafia and Zionist entity. Why? He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa. I guess he thinks kosher feelings outweigh Palestinian lives. He hasn’t done anything he’s promised in making NYC a cheaper and easier place to live. And yet delusional leftists still love and support him.

If Mamdani was truly principled he’d make it illegal to be a Zio in NYC. Semd police to monitor all synagogues for promoting Zionism. Track donations to the IOF from Jewish orgs. Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity and all companies that do business with the Zionist entity. Get ICE to deport anyone with Zionist entity citizenship ( I hear there are a lot of them in Brooklyn and Queens). Ban AIPAC and all other pro-Zionist groups. Shut down businesses like Eichler’s which routinely sell Zionist products.

Mamdani ran on the basis of defying the Zionist Lobby so he needs to keep his promises.
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>>2842294
Zohran Mamdani raped my father and killed my mother. Then he said heil Hitler. True story btw.

So is Mamdani good or bad for American leftism now that he’s been in office for over six months?

>>2838314
Besides the tunnels themselves, the bloody mattresses is certainly a point of suspision of something nutty and illegal.

Listen to Palestinians.

>>2846417
>account based in Israel



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Post communist/general lefty edits ITT.
I will be dropping my collection, post any more you find
"I'm here for the aura and hype moments"
"I'm here for the aura and hype moments"
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Why is this on leftypol? Shouldn't it be on /siberia/?


>>2846063
this is important praxis

>>2846063
there already is a thread like this on siberia
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/769001.html



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