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Mean Edition
Lula has to govern like a bloodthirsty dictator. Enough of being nice and cuddly. Gotta be a genocidal tyrant.
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parece verídico


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>Deputado Luiz Lima (PL-RJ) usa a tribuna para Câmara para dizer que Alexandre de Moraes desvia dinheiro da empregada doméstica para "financiar a ditadura da Venezuela pra matar pessoas".


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>vcs sao uns belos de uns vagabundos
>o senhor ta de sacanagem porra
>o senhor ta desviando dinheiro da empregada domestica pra enviar pra venezuela pra matar pessoas
>e esse congresso nacional faz nada
quebra de decoro parlamentar doesn't exist anymore



>hitler and mussolini were in fact inspired by the bolshevik insurrection
<casually ignores them going to war with the USSR over its communism and influence
>to dismiss accusations of "red fascism" as "american buzzwording" is to embrace fascistic censorship.
<denying absurd comparisons to fascism just means you're a fascist, actually
Definitely and obviously bait by this point, but let's see how more retarded it can get.
>policies such as the five pests
You don't know what of this means, you fucking illerate troglodyte. Christ, kill yourself.


>people STILL are falling for the monarchy meme

But why? What's the materialist explanation for this?
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>why not simply keep the palace and have it collectivised?
If the UK was to transform into a socialist entity- wouldn't it make sense to have some money from tourists to aid financially during the DOTP?


>What's the materialist explanation for this?

This week's Weekly Worker has you covered. Four excellent articles on why the monarchy needs to be abolished, and not just as some trite debate over tax revenue or a checklist item after the revolution, but as an immediate demand against the monarchy's legal and ideological role in sustaining the capitalist order.


Also, for everyone arguing about tax revenues, here's a quote from Luxemburg:

<We refuse to vote for the Civil List [funding for the monarchy] not because it is a rip-off, but because we are opponents of the monarchy, even if it were to cost half as much as it does. Hell, we would not want it even if it were for free! On the day we get rid of the monarchy, we would gladly vote to pay, say, 15 million towards this or that charitable cause – for all I care, the sum could go towards an idiot asylum. We prefer the most expensive republic to the cheapest monarchy, because for us this is not a matter of money: the monarchy is the most backward tool of class rule, whereas the republic is the most progressive one. And the more progressive the forms of class rule, the closer their terrible end.


Lmao don't you have the comment section of some conservative rag to patrol


Liberals have had this love/hate relationship with old monarchical institutions for a long time now. You must remember, the monarchy were bros with the liberals in the age of expansion by giving them contracts and sometimes becoming landed nobility because they brought in so much wealth to the royal coffers. But when the monarchy went all despotic on their capital then the liberals got mad. But mostly liberals like the aesthetics of their old enemy/friend and hold it in reverence because liberals also sometimes aspired to be nobility and royalty.


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General thread on this since there doesn't seem to be one
The attached video is a shop worker in the West Bank being brutalized by the IDF

>Israeli police have raided the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound for a second consecutive night, firing stun grenades and rubber-coated steel bullets at Palestinian worshippers.
>Videos from the site show armed troops forcibly emptying the mosque from worshippers who had gathered there for Ramadan prayers.
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Apologize to China. Again.


Peace can never come as long as Israel hangs onto Zionism, meaning they would have to stop being Israel, there's no negotiating or peace without the wholesale destruction of the apartheid regime and a return of the Nakba refugees and their families to their historic homes


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Preface: This handy set of rules covers most of the games which disinformation artists play on the Internet (and offline). When you know the tricks, you’ll be able to spot the games. Even if you’ve read this list before, you might be surprised at how useful it is to brush up on these tricks.

Update: This was originally apparently written by H. Michael Sweeney.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>I posted this in regards to MSM using these tactics to PSYOP populations into believing things by emotionally manipulating them. News outlets, fact checkers and "experts" should have 0 trust all they do is propagandize
Holy shit anon I actually never thought about that. This is a crazy groundbreaking discovery!


Look at all they have to do to seem correct
All we have to do is ask them to question their assumptions


Having seen a lot of disinfo artists
this is pretty weak
but I might adopt the label, I think I want to be a disinfo artist, sounds way more fun than a regular shitposter


Dear sir, madame, comrade, citizen or beautiful, extravagant other,
I'm here to politely inform you that you seem to be getting drawn into the very thing your article warns against.

Ad hominems, name calling, emotional attacks, etc.

So perhaps be aware of that and then secondly, I'd like to add to your lists something I did not observe from a quick perusal, the tactic:
Isn't that in the three "D's" of information warfare?
Or is it four?
Dilute, distract, demoralize, destroy?

At any rate, yeah, if you haven't, and if you feel so inclined of course, you can look up textbooks and etc on ol libgen there, the search phrases: "memetic warfare" (which apparently even the United States Marine Corp wrote a book on),
"information warfare",
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"Disinformation" doesn't have rules. There are some general patterns but bad faith discourse adapts to its contexts.

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After three months of labor, I present you the current state of the translation project of the french Black Book of Capitalism from 1998.

The raw traduction is completed, the work is in the process of being proofread to enhance the general english level. So far two benevolent English speakers manifested their interest in this endeavour, one of them already corrected the Foreword and Introduction.

Gitea of the Black Book of Communism: https://git.leftypol.org/latexanon/bboc
If you download the whole deposit and run it trough a Tex editor, a whole book appears! Credits to LaTex Anon for this magic

This thread will be used as a hub to update the progressively the book with the proofreader's input, but also to sketch the specification of an enhanced edition of the BBOC, as well as gathering material in this regard, because after a few more decades of neoliberalism, some updates would be welcome. Furthermore as some people remarked, the book is far from exhaustive.
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Any news from our proofreaders?




I don't know French or Vietnamese so I can't really proofread either of the texts in question



I got a new laser printer the other day and it prints noticeably different, much thinner font than my old printer for some reason. so I've been fiddling with fonts and margins. decided to switch to sans serif for the book version of uncle Ho's text
I ran the numbers on pdf related, what I reckon it would cost for say 100 copies:
>toner+paper: $0.33
>labor: $2.00 (folding + sewing)
adding a line down the middle between pages 16-17 would remove the need for folding, because I only do that to have a crease to sew along
this exercise isn't just for autistically pretending I'm a print shop, it's also useful for printing papers and other texts that aren't available from online book shops, while saving on paper and toner and drawer space


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Reminder that the nazis gave weapons to children to put them between them and their enemies.
It were not only the countries they invaded and their people, or the people they deemed as worthless pests that only suffered nazi delusions, but it's own people.
The nazis are, and will be, the colective which more "arians" has killed.


kek, 30+ years of liberalism and now they only got one tank left


It's curious how only nazi Germany used child soldiers to such a high degree yet apparently it was the USSR that was running out of men


Stalin speech - November 7, 1941 [English subtitles]


comrades do not take the bait


Why does left-wing activism seem to generally repel women as opposed to liberal activism?

A few years back I volunteered for a liberal GOTV org and the ratio was seriously like 8-to-1 female-to-male (they were all cute college girls too but that's neither here nor there.)

On the other hand, anytime I've tried to get involved with left-wing orgs it's an absolute sausage fest. Not that I care, I don't view political activism as a way to hit on chicks, I'm just curious why the seemingly pointless gender gap exists.
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>Communism has nothing to offer girlbosses.
But most communist men really want a girl boss to tell them what to do.


Well, you're an idiot. Sorry.
Most people don't give a fuck about furries, especially a mascot at a publicity event, and it had the opposite effect. If you would turn away from a labour movement over something as pointless as that, you were never a comrade, good riddance.


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Imagine if Soviet Russia had a blonde well-endowed Faux-News lookin' leader.

She could have eaten all the grain and people would only criticize her if she got fat from it.


Because their boyfriends don't allow them to go.


Girl boss
>Girl boss
>Girl boss
Yeah I think you're on to something.

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I encountered this guy who was all about abolishing labour division. It seems to be an important point of marxism, but to be fair I don't get it.

If it's about abolishing the distinction between "intellectual" and "manual" labour, with workers also being engineers, I get it to some extent.
But that one guy told me it was about anybody doing anything they wanted whenever they wanted. Like, if I wake up one day and want to be a doctor, I can just be a doctor.

I think that's stupid. You're still going to need people sticking to their career and have some sort of labour division. Nobody wants mediocre doctors or mediocre engineers. You have to have people sort of specialize in their field and sort of stick to them, right?
People get to excel at what they do thanks to labour division.
Doesn't mean you have to do it 12 hours a day and only do that, but you have to stick to a career.

I have more stupid questions to come.
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So we ask everyone what work he wants to do given that he knows what have to be produced to stay alive.

So we have two options for planning
1. products we need
2. what work everyone wants to do

For people who have no idea what they want, they will be assigned an average job and will be given time for eduction.

It is not socialism when only first point is considered.


Just to be practical boss you probably want an hour a week corvee for all just to get the shit nobody wants to do done


>know this isn't relevant to your point but the holy DDR had insane levels of productivity
Wait, is this true? You got any stats?


It was a Caught In the Act document iirc was freaking the burgereich out because it disproved capitalism

I'll see if I can find it on the weekend if I remember hopefully


>marx literally doesn't say anything about stuff that limist accumulation
In volume 1, he does imply it's related to the relative surplus population (thus the reserve army of labor), but he makes that more explicit in volume 3:
<As the capitalist mode of production develops, so the rate of profit falls, while the mass of profit rises together with the increasing mass of capital applied. Once the rate is given, the absolute amount by which capital grows depends on its existing magnitude. But if this magnitude is given, the proportion in which it grows, i.e. its rate of growth, depends on the profit rate. A rise in productivity (which moreover always goes hand in hand with devaluation of the existing capital, as already mentioned) can increase the magnitude of the capital only if it increases the part of the annual profit that is transformed back into capital, by raising the rate of profit. In so far as labour productivity is concerned, this [the possible increase in the magnitude of the capital] can come about (since this productivity is not directly relevant to the value of the existing capital) only in so far as it either involves a rise in the relative surplus-value or else reduces the value of the constant capital, in other words cheapens either the commodities that go into the reproduction of labour-power or the elements of constant capital. Both of these, however, involve a devaluation of the existing capital, and both go hand in hand with a reduction in the variable capital as against the constant. Both processes condition the fall in the profit rate, and both delay it. In so far, moreover, as the higher rate of profit gives rise to an increased demand for labour, it leads to an increase in the working population and hence in the exploitable material which is precisely what makes capital capital.
<Indirectly, however, the development of labour productivity contributes to an increase in the existing capital value, since it increases the mass and diversity of use-values in which the same exchange-value is represented, and which form the material substratum, the objective elements of this capital, the substantial objects of which constant capital consists directly and variable capital at least indirectly. The same capital and the same laPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>A person moving 2000 miles to my neighborhood from another place in my country to look for the same job I have is okay
<A person traveling a few miles to cross the border to find a job in a different industry in a town I'll never visit destroys my way of life, reduces my standard of living, and makes socialism impossible
What causes people to believe this simultaneously?
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you can't threaten them with deportation without making their presence illegal in the first place.


>The ones who ''really hate immigration are the ones who desperately want a job even those jobs

oh please, the boomer petit bourgeois are the ones that hate immigrants the most, and they haven't worked an honest day in their lives


>A person moving 2000 miles to my neighborhood from another place in my country to look for the same job I have is okay
they used to call that carpetbagging


only reason immigrants get payed lower is cuz of being exploited more, oppressing immigrants suppresses all wages so solidarity with all workers regardless of immigration status


Just watched the entire film that picrel came from, and I gotta say, Death By Hanging might be my new favorite foreign film.

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at what point do mass shootings in America become so bad that the business elite step in and go "alright enough of this ruckus, its bad for business!!!"

like surely this isn't good for capital? or maybe I'm just naive?(/usa/pol)
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so you don't think the ruling class exists? isn't this a communist board? the fuck?


this is a communist board this is why we dont believe speak in vague right-wing terms


so if I said "bourgeoisie class dictatorship" instead you'd be happy? you're literally mad at me over word choice?

uygha you a sperg


stop thinking capitalism is like an rpg first

>why did the ruling class force big pharma
there isnt a "ruling class", there isnt even a bourgeois monolith


The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel

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