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>had five year plans
>was a former member of the communist party
>nationalized key sectors of the economy (steel, bank)
>secretly disliked america
>made the chaebols his bitch through arrests and shit
>had a large planning and economic bureacracy
why does leftypol not praise comrade park?
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>>2269623
lee kuan yew was just anti-imperialist
he co-opted the growing class struggle and transformed singapore into the economic powerhouse (an imperialist nation itself) neolibs revere by killing off any rising class struggle
I like him because he fought and embarrassed western hegemony but he wasnt close to a communist

>>2270794
I agree with you anon but you should know that post was ironic

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>>2270798
I was wondering why you were calling kai shek a communist but I couldnt put two and two together

>>2270837
yeah you gotta understand this is a troll thread

>>2265612
can you explain more?



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Anything to say about this edition of the Manifesto? By Penguin Books: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/35335/the-communist-manifesto-by-marx-friedrich-engelskarl/9780141395906
Reason I ask: I live in a non-English speaking country and need a physical copy by Friday.
Suggetions of other editions are very welcome.
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This one is nice but it'll take longer than 1 day to ship
https://flpress.storenvy.com/collections/1863625-foundations/products/31188307-m-nifesto-of-the-commun-st-p-rty-principles-of-commun-sm-k-rl-m-rx-fred
Its the manifesto, principles of communism and the prefaces for various other language editions written by Marx and Engles, all for 7 usd

>>2271058
it's a shame you need a physical copy because a project called standard ebooks has a free and very well made ebook that was a pleasure to read and completely 180'd my opinion on ebooks.

>>2271546
fucking hate commercial publishers
>need to make sure this popular writer and thinker is sandwiched between 100s of pages of some boring academic hack so people can't open the book up at random and read an interesting snippet
>gotta add a bunch of extra sawdust in here to enforce a copyright over our imprint of a public domain work
>gotta make sure everyone has an orthodox interpretation of the work at hand, wouldn't want anyone to just start reading amazing prose and look up things they're interested in or don't understand
it's fucking wild that we just accept it's normal that every book penguin publishes they do the same shit that the german bundesrepublik legally requires publishers do to imprints of mein kamph as a poison pill. it sounds like there's more filler in there than there is manifesto.

disclaimer: I unequivocally 100% support putting poison pills into imprints of mein kamph. they should put a few poison leaves in the prints too.

>>2271724
I once had this Verso copy (not sure what happened to it) which has an introduction by Hobsbawm and that's cool. Not sure about shipping or anything. I might have a copy of the International Publishers version around here somewhere now.

>>2271750
yeah that's more like it.



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Power corrupts, be either a user from the Left or Right, power blind them and their sight only see themselves and nothing more. Power for one or a few can destroy everything build beyond itself, power can turn to itself and only justify perpetuating itself, nothing more. Power corrupts.

I think anarchist are right on that front, give power to someone, and see them turn and change. How do we solve the problem of power?
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>>2271317
To be fair no leftist argues that Stalin was secretly not a communist or something, the argument was that communist parties would come to view their power as absolutely necessary for the proletarian revolution to continue and that this would have grave consequences.
I'm not sure why Marxist-Leninists always conflate the US state department's arguments with the anarchist argument.

>>2271737
Because anarchism was literally created by the US state department

>>2271738
>source: my ass

>>2271738
Citation needed

>>2271738
guys was this true?



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Have the state become responsible for childbirth and child rearing.
People donate sperm and eggs then they just grow babies in artificial wombs and raise them in camps like orphelinages. This way you can adjust the birthrate to be whatever you need it to be. So if people are breeding more one year you reduce the number of artificial births to adjust.
Thoughts? Is there any reason why this wouldn't work?
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>>2271484
This way you can be an incel without burdening society.

Your future water rations are getting cut by the way, OP.

>OP proposes breeding pods
based and Iron Teeth pilled

There is no depopulation crisis. But a higher population means higher GDP and a better economy. I think a small socialist state post national liberation (like Wales after a succesful guerrila liberation struggle) would be the first to adopt artificial womb technology on an industrial scale. This would rapidly improve the economy. At the same time there would be mass immigration to increase the population to around 30 million. The economy will boom because of this and with central planning industrial and military equipment production will quickly overtake England's. The monarchy will resort to using AmeriKKKan troops to hold the line but they are paper tigers. Eventually we will get to a point where the Welsh PLA can spill across the border, using complete manpower and equipment superiority to counteract better enemy technology (one of our soldiers will have to kill 2 AmeriKKKans, and one of our Mig21s will have to kill 5 AmeriKKKan F-47s, or more) and begin liberating England, and then later liberate Scotland.

Thoughts? I especially want comrade King Lear's thoughts on my plan. I think Mao would be very happy with it.

>>2271626
People raised in orphanages turn out fine enough (and those were an underfunded mess most of the time). If the government took this initiative seriously they would certainly be capable of creating a pleasant environment for children to grow up in.
Also I wouldn't idealize the traditional family structure so much. Plenty of people grow up raised by retard parents in abusive households that leave them fucked for life.
And plenty of animals and even some human cultures historically did communal child rearing.



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We must proletarianize the fascist petty-bourgeoisie and accelerate the revolution. We must boycott small businesses and small landlords. The petty-bourgeoisie are far too bought into the system to resist and appealing to them is misguided.
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>>2271431
>using the RAFB flag after unironically asking "what the fuck do you mean by "proletarian association"?"
Nah bro this shithole never ceases to amaze.

>>2257541
This is the nature of morality: it condemns only excesses, never the thing itself. Thus profit is permitted, but greed is forbidden; small businesses are fine, but big ones are not. You can see pretty easily how this corresponds to the conditions for petty-bourgeois emancipation.

>>2269460
technofeudalism is very interesting. I think it gets closer to the truth than most. but since its so new few have a good grasp of it

>>2271433
>Actually I vaguely didn't say anything that you refuted therefore your argument is valid
>No PLEASE let me say "proletarian association" instead of "unionize" and then sidetrack the argument once someone points it out
>dont ask me if anything i said was even faintly a rebuttal because i dont care, nitpicking is praxis
If you're so fucking scared of being disagreed with then how about you close the site.

>>2271437
The so-called technofeudalism does not exist, because what exists is only financial capital dominating the economy in financialization, an inevitable consequence of capitalism with the decrease in profit rates. Feudalism only has rents that the serfs gave to the feudal lord of the land they harvested, unlike the proletariat who sells their labor force to the capitalist. This discourse is anti-Marxist because all intellectual production belongs to society and does not belong to anyone, even if other capitalists collect this information. Intellectual property should be abolished in the scientific socialist movement without exception. In addition, those who speak of technofeudalism are only co-opting the workers to conciliate with the bourgeoisie, wanting to reform the European Union and not nationalize all banks and suppress private banks with a state-owned national bank without neoclassical economists, Keynesians, followers of MMT, and administrators of financial capital. Instead, the national bank with its own currency will not be independent and will be coordinated by a popular council with mandatory participation of the working class to be used as a weapon against capitalists and prevent inflation from affecting workers' wages, prioritizing bankruptcy, occupation, nationalization of the private property of all capitalists to intensify the class struggle and the collapse of the capitalist state in order to be able to implement the dictatorship of the proletariat when the proletariat will be able to acquire its political supremacy.



 

Greece: Nikos Palaiokostas, the Ghost, the Greek Robin Hood & brother of Vassilis Palaiokostas has passed away
This morning Nikos Palaiokostas passed away at Trikala hospital. Since 2021 Nikos had been released due to health grounds and was able to serve the remainder of his sentence under house arrest in his family home in Trikala, from where he was able to leave twice a week, for dialysis treatment at the hopsital’s Kidney Unit.

Nikos Palaiokostas born in Moschofyto, in the mountains above Trikala, to a large family with a background as shepherds. He was a bank robber, beloved of the anarchist/revolutionary movement, hero of the poor in Greece and the older brother of the still wanted Vassilis Palaiokostas . He operated for several years either with his brother or alone, mainly committing bank robberies and one kidnapping.

After a brief job as a sailor, he quickly began to engage in ‘petty theft’ and ‘burglary’ together with his younger brother, Vassilis Palaiokostas, who in the meantime had begun earlier. In 1988, Nikos Palaiokostas was imprisoned in the prison of Trikala but with the help of his brother Vassilis, he escaped on 18th December of that year. However, on 3rd February, 1990, Nikos was arrested again for theft, while in April of the same year, Vassilis was also arrested for car theft while preparing a plan to help his brother escape again.

Palaiokostas’ acquaintance with Kostas Samaras (known by the nicknames Artist or Butterfly ) in the 1980s was crucial as the three of them began committing bank robberies in various areas throughout Greece. The most famous robbery of these took place in June 1992, when they robbed the National Bank branch in Kalambaka, Trikala, liberating 125,000,000 drachmas, which remains to this day the largest bank robbery in Greece.On 15th December 1995, the Palaiokostas gang carried out the first kidnapping in Greece, kidnapping industrialist Alexandros Chaitoglou from his home in Thessaloniki. The Palaiokostas gang then demanded a ransom of 260,000,000 drachmas for the industrialist’s release. The Chaitoglou family paid the ransom to the kidnappers, with the authorities launching a major manhunt at the time in their attempt to locate and arrest the gang. Only after 3 years of investigations and pursuits, in 1999, did they manage to achieve some results, as after a car accident at the Lamia – Livadia national road, the authorities arrested Vassilis, who wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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βασισμένος

what a fucking guy lol rip

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RIP to a legend.
>>2270683
Resentment based politics.
Not a leftist, only a child addicted to the internet.

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Do attractive young men rob banks or does robbing banks make young men just more attractive?
Nikos Paleokostas has died: The story of the notorious robber, brother of "Phantom" Vasilis Paleokostas
Nikos Paleokostas, one of the country's most famous criminals, older brother of Vasilis Paleokostas, who has been wanted for years, died in a hospital in Trikala at the age of 64.

He was a powerful group that committed robberies with his brother for many years, but then also on his own. He was sentenced to 197 years and 376 months in prison, but was released due to serious health problems in 2021.

He was serving his sentence in Agios Stefanos prison but demonstrated excellent behavior during the years he was there.

After his release from prison, he settled in his home in Trikala, while in recent years he had been facing serious health problems.

Nikos Paleokostas underwent dialysis twice a week in the Kidney Unit. However, his health condition was deteriorating and he could not stand it.

In fact, he had also suffered a stroke, had gone to a rehabilitation center and returned to Trikala Hospital in the First Internal Medicine Department where he was hospitalized and at the same time underwent hemodialysis.

His brother Vasilis may be considered a "Phantom" and "elusive," but Nikos also had notable criminal activity. He participated in the largest bank robbery of the 20th century in Greece, as well as in the kidnapping of businessman Alexandros Haitoglou.
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>another adventurist loser Great Man
Not a single mention of unions or even strikes, lol.



 

Right now, I feel burnt for critically supporting Nahendra Modi toward Indian liberals and leftists because of Modi overseeing growth and modernization in India.

That was why I was willing to give him critical support, but he's turned into a Netanyahu figure with the recent Pahalgam war, destructive not only to Pakistanis, but also to his own nation, with him effectively threatening to trigger a thermonuclear war the next time ANYONE, not just the Pakistanis, tries something in India, because you cannot properly attribute terrorist attacks. At this point, I want him gone ASAP, almost at all costs.

Has anyone else been burnt like this before?
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>>2268087
uygha, what were you thinking?

>>2269549
which is why india was communist until 1991 and even if they liberalized at that moment modi never privatized the banks or the many Public Sector Undertakings (PSU) which makes him red at heart and india still socialist

>>2270407
You are wrong because Modi and his party are constantly trying to privatize agriculture for the IMF, financialize food production for landowners to enrich themselves and legalize price gouging. India has never implemented the dictatorship of the proletariat and you are confusing the financialized capitalism of neoliberalism with capitalism before the Washington Consensus with Keynesianism and state capitalism which is no longer accepted and tolerated by the neoclassical orthodoxy of current economists for ideological reasons and because the rate of profit of the capitalists has decreased and therefore the intensification of the exploitation of workers by attacking their rights is being encouraged. If you are in India, it is your duty to organize, defend and vote for communist parties in your country even if they have no chance of winning without exception.

>>2268087
The replies are so retarded (like 99% of posts here).

Lenin straight up said 'we took the Marxist doctrine from Western Europe readymade' - the usage of 'doctrine' here is retarded but it shows that the Bolsheviks never saw themselves as 'adapting communism to Russia'. As it is, Engels had long before expressed disapproval over the notion of "adapting" communism, particularly Slavophiles in Russian circles of the time.

>critically supporting Modi
oh shit uygha what are you doing
>growth and modernization
these things are means, not ends in themselves



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do you guys think that Joseph Stalin would’ve been four or against vaccines I know that Trofim Lysenko was like the Soviet Union version Of Robert F Kennedy Junior and he was on stone side, so I wonder if stolen sympathize with the views



 

Can someone explain to me why the left overwhelmingly seems against AI? Isn't that a necessary component to a post-scarcity society? I understand the technology can be used by the wrong people but that shouldn't be a reason to hate the technology itself.
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>>2271025
AI for diagnostics and medical networking isn't widely implemented yet and where it is implemented it's still early stage tech. Cancer treatment is included in public healthcare services in France, Sweden, Germany et al. but healthcare in all EU countries has been massively degraded by neoliberal "reforms". Patients in Europe face the same problems everywhere e.g. insanely long waiting times. AI will not improve the now abysmal structure of national healthcare systems inside the EU (which are likely going to resemble american standards or worse in the future thanks to private insurance corporations, private hospitals and doctor's associations lobbying against public healthcare), because under capitalism this is dependent on decisions made by politicians and porky interests, however AI might help patients because it can process large amounts of data, provide better diagnostics than humans, recommend better treatments and reduce workloads for doctors and nurses.

>>2271043
What should i infiltrate

>>2271180
the national guard and cause a insurrection

Moved to >>>/tech/29757.



 

Seriously, during the communist days, many people liked going to see the animals in the circuses and nobody saw it as something wrong, before PETA ever existed.
To this day in Russia, there are circuses with animals, interestingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tskbF6cM0G4
And mostly outcry about circuses with animals is in capitalistic countries.
Back then in communist Poland, circuses with animals used to be liked as well. And up till 90s, 2000s and 2021, they used to be popular for children.
What happened? And please, no reactionary liberal rhetoric.
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I swear those ecologists hate people

bump

You just KNOW

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>>2107539
>does that mean knowing how to read is also bad?

Yes.

i miss them



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