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 No.404747[Reply]

I've been thinking about how critiques of fascism and imperialism are re-appropriated by the right, often unconsciously. Example, colonel Jessup in a few good men, he's obviously the bad guy but go to the comments section of a video on the scene of "you can't handle the truth" and you will see a bunch of people defending him. It's like in jarhead when they are watching the helicopter scene from apocalypse now, originally conceived as an anti war film, they are comparing the americans in vietnam to the nazis which is why they play wagner, but now its being celebrated uncritically as "america, fuck yeah" by a bunch of marines. Another example is starship troopers memes used by /pol/, clearly the movie is lampooning fascism and us imperialism.

What I think explains this is that fascism, as Walter Benjamin says, is the 'the aestheticization of politics'. The difference is revolutionary progressive politics makes art political while reaction makes politics "artistic".

>Fascism attempts to organize the newly proletarianized masses without affecting the property structure which the masses strive to eliminate. Fascism sees its salvation in giving these masses not their right, but instead a chance to express themselves. The masses have a right to change property relations; Fascism seeks to give them an expression while preserving property. The logical result of Fascism is the introduction of aesthetics into political life. (…) Mankind, which in Homer’s time was a spectacle for the Olympian gods, has become one for itself. (…) Communism responds by politicizing art.


Because of this heavy emphasis on aesthetics anything which uses the aesthetics of fascism, even from a critical point of view, functionally sort of becomes fascist, because fascism is largely aesthetics to begin with. It's like pornography, yes its just a depiction of sex but that doesn't mean the actors aren't actually having sex. This is why parodies of fascism can't work because the parody often indistinguishable from the real thing. The only critiques of reactionary politics I've seen that don't fall into this are both dramatic (not parodies or comedies) and incredibly hamfisted in that they spell out FASH BAD in bold, flashing capital letters, ex: "V for Vendetta" the movie not comic book.

Why can't rightoids distinguish parody? Is it purposeful (ex: BaneposPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.405492

>>405287
>>405304
>>405319
If you actually paid attention enough to keep up with the threads before the conversations are deleted, you would know why said posters posts were deleted. He's a repeat poster that changes flags and pretends to be someone new every other day as well floods threads with inane shit that inflates the number of posts in the thread without actually addressing any of the points made against him. Also, if anything, the mods have been extremely lenient with /pol/yp idpol, far more then they are with radlibs. 10+ /pol/fag idpol or bait threads (or threads that are turned into said things)? Completely fine. Some radlib makes a thread with even the most innocuous bait? Instantly banned. And I'm fine with radlib idpol being banned, but let's at least be fucking consistent here.
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 No.405548

>>404769
You Will face proletarianization
You will be hit at some point with it's pitfalls
You will be alone in this, because if your only out for yourself you can suffer by yourself.
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 No.405550

>>405548
And you WILL be happy
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 No.405565

>>405550
Wrong it'll suck when you have nothing but >>404769 is parading around inebriated off his temporary stability. Justifying poverty and the exploitation of the prole because he's got his FUCK I got mine mentality.
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 No.405588

>>405492
He is also some english retard that can't type.


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 No.388245[Reply]

How are the workers of the world supposed to unite if they cannot even agree to a single unified language?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfUu1WmiTo&ab_channel=TLDRNewsGlobal
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 No.396940

>>388248
The Chinese have that covered. You think they need us? The proper language to learn is Spanish if you live in the US.
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 No.398940

>>396940
How about…
All native born U.S. citizens learn Esperanto, all South American immigrants learn Esperanto, and we’re all happy.
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 No.405532

LERN
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 No.405534

>>405532
*LERNU
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 No.405537

>>405534
ESPARANTON


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 No.405225[Reply]

I'm genuinely curious, but when did Andreas Malm get interested in climate change?
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 No.405229

when he realized he could sell books to stupid liberals
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 No.405401

>>405229
And what year would that be, give or take? 2007?


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 No.386057[Reply]

/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core, but isn't it a simplistic view?
When is Nationalism good and when is it bad?
Why the iranian revolution based but the Afghan struggle against a foreign country not?
Why is it ok for Iran but not for Checenya?
Isn't the Yugolav balcanization also a struggle for self determination? How about the prague spring or the hungarian counter revolution?
Where do i draw the line?
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 No.404694

>>404683
>>404690
Unfortunately for you, this manifests as a contradiction in internationalism. That some people are to organize and identify with their peoples and others just humanity will quickly undo itself as a kind of false solidarity.
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 No.404703

>>404690
This is not true. This is a reddit meme
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 No.404707

>>386147
>But then why supress the communist too?
Why they wouldn't ?they are danger for the national unity:)
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 No.404953

>>404694
>Taking ironic posts meant to bait someone seriously
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 No.405278

>>389947
First thing first, whites fo not oppressed blacks, if a white dude says something bad about blacks he gets fired, this isn’t true for black dudes.


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 No.405075[Reply]

There has been a cycle of economic collapses every decade or two, is it for the last hundred years maybe hundreds of years, all I remember is the recent part of the story these collapses, like the dot com bubble in the 2000 or the stock market crash pf 2008 because of real estate loans or some shit, these regular collapses have been happening because of one thing, but, we are overdue for another and the thing is, this time its not going to be because of one thing but at least a few the consumer credit card debt + other shit i cant remember atm. Can any one give their insight?
As far as I can tell there are multiple bubbles this time, combined with near zero energy prices for middle class and higher where they usually sell back to the grid they have an even bigger problem an techno-economic one. Maybe they'll try plaster it with UBI. We could have had UBI since the 80s
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 No.405187

>>405075
Because McDonalds runs out of burgers, their aren’t enough burgers?
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 No.405200

>>405083
there is no cycle. can you be more specific about which ones you're talking about?
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 No.405211

>>405200
Their is a Burger Cycle
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 No.405212

>>405200
>>405211
A cycle of divinity
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 No.405269

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>>405075
Crashes happen because capitalism works as designed to increase efficiency of mass production to the maximal point. When it's done doing it's thing, time to turn it off and do something else.

and

If my work made you $1,000,000 an hour, you would lose money if you paid me $1,000,001 per hour, and 'break even' means we both stay home.


Suppose:
Company A makes cars/burgers/widgets.
Company B makes identical cars burgers widgets.
Company C ditto
Each company employs 10 workers that make widgets
It takes $50 in parts and $50 in wage labour to make 1 widget.
The companies decide to list widgets for a price of $150, meaning $50/widget is the profit for the capitalist owner.
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 No.403262[Reply]

Should they be deprogrammed (especially when they've been extensively brainwashed or blinded by mainstream neoliberal progressive ideology)? Should they be left alone, even though it means that you're risking their lives (they're absolutely going to consume the blue pill should they be extensively indoctrinated)?

Pic: low budget, but sums my argument clearly
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 No.403405

>>403384
how so?
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 No.403407

Centrism is the ideology of ignorants. Those without convictions stand for nothing but the continuation of the status quo.
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 No.404812

Having a shifting overton window means that ideas that would have once been considered centrist 30 years ago are now considered to be left wing .

Centrist Ideas like full employment and social security programs used to be the left wing edge of conservative parties (yes back in the day there was bipartisan support for these ideas making them centrist) , now they are considered to be left wing mainstays and the conservatives won't even consider supporting them.

All it takes to be a centrist is to not shift with the times. For example if the overton window shifts back to the left again then people who hang onto ideas considered to be left wing now will end up in the center.
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 No.404820

>>403262
Suffer not the liberal
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 No.405090

Well-meaning, well-intentioned idiots.


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 No.358748[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Show support to our borger king bro trashing breadtube stupidity.

You guys are going to read the book anyway for free online

https://www.amazon.com/BreadTube-Serves-Imperialism-Examining-Psuedo-Socialism/dp/B09798771Q
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 No.404784

>>401980
>Pointing out there's more oppressions than class isn't liberal
It is if you don't understand that other kinds of oppresions have their origin in class.
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 No.404787

>>400293
Can someone explain to me how Big Joel is associated with the left in any way? Has he ever said anything even remotely leftist?
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 No.405010

Caleb Maupin is retarded
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 No.405169

>>359201
post of the year


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 No.322861[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Can anyone please explain to me what the fuck this even is? I've tried watching videos on it and I still don't know what it's supposed to be about. At this point I'm not even sure if it even exists? Is it a glowop?
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 No.403701

>>402808
White parents are against it because it is snti-white. Non-whites are for it
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 No.403831

File: 1627337953729.pdf (104.01 KB, 232x300, mocombe2014.pdf)

Mocombe, Paul C. "Against critical race theory." Ethnic Studies Review 37.1 (2014): 83-106.
good article by a black marxist scholar on the CRT
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 No.403837

>>403831
Interview with the author
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 No.403841

>>403701
>White parents
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 No.404998



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 No.404803[Reply]

I just wanna know.
Why are more young people beginning to skew towards liberalism? And because of that, liberalism became trendy. More and more people are identifying themselves with neoliberal idpol tags, such as being bi, being gay, being black, they/them/his, etc etc.
And how are we going to save future generations from the toxic encroaches of liberalism?
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 No.404856

>>404803
They have 'good' intentions but they dont know any better.
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 No.404865

>>404841
Np. There's a huge copy pasta I posted on the IdPol thread. I'll link it later or find it yourself, with reading material on the subject.
>>404844
Beardtube as in facial hair tube. I seriously hate that name. Fucking dyslexia.
>>404847
I don't know if I'm normie. I was always edgy. Nerdy, gay, but also very social.
I've lived a lot of years and I think the "normie" label doesn't apply to most people if you get to know them. There are many ways to live. Questioning reality constantly is not necessarily the best.
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 No.404869

>>404865
Oh okay! Just link it! I have troubleopening 36 tabs at once only for me to F3, so exhausting.
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 No.404879

>>404876
Thank you! 🤗🤗🤗💖💖💖


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 No.404232[Reply]

In this thread we will strive for an objective, materialist analysis of the American Revolutionary War. Was it progressive? Was it a true liberal revolution against the feudal and monarchist leadership of the British empire? Was it a reactionary attempt by the ruling slave class to protect the institution of slavery and the expansion of colonialism, as many others claim?

In America, it's unbelievably taboo to ask questions like this, but leftypol is capable of being a lot more objective, and brushing aside propaganda than the average liberal space, so I want to know what y'all think.

Also, any good books or articles on the subject?
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 No.404515

>>404287
Is that a pseudo name writer? I can't find any other articles written by " Fred Schleger" or an online presence by them yet they wrote that super long review

Weird
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 No.404688

WASHINGTON
WASHING-TON
SIX FOOT EIGHT
WEIGHS A FUCKING TON
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 No.404698

you can tell a lot about a revolution from the constitution that resulted.
there's a reason cromwell's chopchop yielded a constitution of amazing pragmatism, while the americans birthed a constitution of ungovernability. a constitutional model that has ensured coups and misery everywhere it has been attempted - except the US.
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 No.404701

File: 1627382816715.pdf (17.39 MB, 67x118, Domenico Losurdo - Liberal….pdf)

The American revolution was a split in the liberal party. Read Losurdo.
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 No.404864

Any good Marxist books on US history in general?

I've read some recent liberal books on the US revolution and they stress the property relations; US lust for Indian land, which was being held back by the British. And the tax system/mercantilism of the Empire was hurting the colonies economically.


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