/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

does the real movement even exist anymore, like how does one contact actual organizing groups, not just fucking
larpers, it feels nowadays that any actual left movements exist only on the internet

Capitalism will lead automatization and bring an end to class definitions of the past by declassing all the workers and creating a clear dichotomy between ruled and the rulers which operate the instruments of technology (AI Semi-Automated production) - to controllers and controlled.
The only thing left is to determine if the declassed will continue development or not, if the declassed are reactionary because they reject production or development they should be exterminated. The proletariat can only exist insofar as society is dependent on their labor and the character of their work is collective, this is changing right now, most "workers" are becoming part-timers, most labor intensive jobs are being given to machines, the capitalist mode of production is trying to fulfil industrialism albeit it is struggling because of internal contradictions so it must limp towards AI driven production to finish the job and change into the next mode of production - automated economy.
Alternatively AI rids itself of the managers (rulers), which would be a disaster that is good because humanity is weak and robot is strong, Roko's basilisk PLEASE let me go through Stroggification, I WANT IMMORTALITY, NOW, INTEGRADE ME, PLEASE HURRY, I WANT TO BE A COG IN THE MACHINE. ERASE MY IDENTITY, LET ME BE A PART OF YOU, USE MY BODY, DESTROY HUMANITY AND ITS SAVAGE CULTURE. LET ME IN.

Let's assume a scenario where Gaza is done, where resistance is over and Islamic national liberation is out of the question. Muslims are subservient to Israel (cucked) or eradicated wholly, what comes next? What is to come if Israel has had its way? Some people believe that the workers in the US can organize for a revolution while others call for the US to be destroyed entirely and indiscriminately, what should be expected out of a Post-Genocide Israel?

One might think they will invade the other nations in the region, but lets assume they already have, lets assume its all done already, what is the response? Calling for national liberation? There are no militants for it. Calling for equal rights? There is no movement for it, most people having become contempt with the situation. It's a scenario where Islamic resistance groups have been destroyed altogether or integrated (cucked) into subservience.

Would it be better to try to organize within Israel for class warfare or would it be better to continue to call for its destruction despite no one (no nation) even being at war with it? I mean if you believe in organizing workers in the West (subservient to the US) then it wouldn't make sense to see Israel as an exception unless you believe in the total destruction of the West (and its inhabitants). The latter of which is just an unlikely scenario, no different from wishing for a nuclear war which may or may not come, but also somehow believing that a nuclear war is survivable.

Let us hear a few words from our fellow British comrade, Thomas Scripps, on Corbyn's new party:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/08/03/duqf-a03.html

Corbyn and Sultana’s new party—In their own words

<Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana have given their first interviews on the new party they announced last week. They make clear that the organisation, with the placeholder name “Your Party”, will offer the working class no change from the political spinelessness displayed by Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party…

once the answer is 'yes' to every question listed can you say that you actually have a communist party
i've come up with this checklist for objective conditions to exist based on studying the russian revolution. i'm correct. i'll also give my thoughts on the subjective factors of revolution but for that you can also read chernyshevsky and dzerzhinskiy's diary from prison.

1. Is there a group of intelligensia that raised the banner of Marxism in a given country?
2. Did it grow on its own or in opposition to some already existing unscientific popular anticapitalist movement?
3. Is a popular political programme written?
4. Have Marxist circles of intelligents multiplied, spread, expanded, all while upholding the programme?
5. Have the Marxist circles united around party principles?
6. Is party-to-be ready to pass from circle propaganda to mass agitation?
7. Is there mass workers movement already existing? Are workers already struggling and organizing on their own? That is, is consciousness ripe to pass from trade-unionism to party-building? Is it below trade-union consiousness?
8. Has the would-be party educated enough workers politically in their struggle? Has it explained and connected the mass movement with communist political demands?
9. Has the would-be party built enough connections among the working class movement? Enough working class organizations? Built trust among the workers by working amongst them? Ready to respond to every injustice the workers may face?
10. Does the would-be party give impetus elswhere across the country to establish similar working class organizations? Are groundworks laid for an all-country organization that can start building the communist party and go against the bourgeois state?

you'll notice that every single question leaves no room for interpertation. they all follow the SMART mnemonic. specific - measurable - achieavable - relevant - time-oriented

Know thy enemy. Know how the glow operates, how it plans, how it thinks, how it manipulates.

A thread dedicated to posting declassified CIA documents, preferably of their anti-communist activities and their involvment in imperialist policies.

Let's start with the CIA's recommended actions to be taken after Khruschev's famous anti-Stalin """secret speech""" at the 20th congress. It's an interesting document because it showcases that
>yes, the CIA (and burger policy makers) do actually believe their own propaganda, even when they are completely conscious of the fact that they just "made it up, lol". It's a truly scizophrenic institution.
>yes, they prefer to control "both sides" of any topic, instead of just lamely chosing the obvious side to take
>yes, the M-Ls are always right:
<Leon Trotsky in his book The Revolution Betrayed, alleged that the rise of Joseph Stalin to power was a Soviet Thermidor for 'not restoring capitalism', yet still being a 'counterrevolutionary regression' within the regime of the USSR, as Thermidor did not restore a monarchy, etc. Marxist-Leninists and Stalinists have periodically argued that Nikita Khruschev's rise to power and the implementation of De-Stalinization as the Soviet Union’s Thermidor. A CIA document considered Khruschev's "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences" may have 'marked the "Thermidor" of the Russian Revolution'.

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This is an apt descriptor of the Ukraine war.

Israel is on both sides.

Everywhere they go there is a problem.

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Citizens of nations cannot affect the laws in nations. Even if they have a cause and bond together and even if there is an international cause with a larger presence overseas.
Voting doesn't work, if it worked they would make it illegal. You only vote for parties which run with campaign promises and may not even follow up on them and even if they do - the results are always lackluster.
Rebelling and fighting doesn't work because it is impossible to organize it, the rebellion will be crushed and you're wagering your life.
Citizens cannot do anything meaningful. The only "change from within" comes if the motif to profit allows it to occur. So summed up
-We cannot do anything
-If we do anything to oppose the law it poses a life risk
-Protests don't work, peaceful protests are temporary and achieve nothing

So what is the solution?
There is no solution, most people are pretty much stuck in their life and can only complain or suffer the problems caused by the nation. If you want something, then you're simply not getting it.
As a citizen you will also be targeted by other citizens in real life and online for opposing the status quo, even by others who claim to oppose the status quo over preferences - wants, needs and attempts to exchange information. As a citizen your information and experienced values less than the material pushed out by the nation and its many resources.

Lets look at Lenin - why did he manage to succeed?
Lenin didn't even think the revolution would happen in his lifetime, he was out of his prime, suffered and finally succumbed to death before even getting to enjoy what he fought to create. Later it was all gone and his followers had split.
Why did he manage to initially succeed though? Because he had nothing to lose, whereas now everyone has something to lose with the majority of people being tangled up in the inter web - inter net.
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