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I have to ask.
What is wrong with /pol/???

They seam to embrace being stupid and unable to read even 5 words, complaining how difficult it is for them and how hard this is.
Do they embrace being retarded?
Do they not understand that this shows them to be the real retarded untermenchen (truly white uyghurs)?

Do they think that their inability to read long sentences somehow translates into them being the genius autism score rocket designing race or something?
I doubt these retards can even grasp the instructions on how to warm up a pizza far less build anything of value.

I have seen this behavior countless times.

Sure I myself will refuse to read the same nonsensical trash that I have seen far to often. However at least I can read one page in before starting to skip if the author clearly is not addressing the central subject and saying nonsense.

However /po/l-tards take this to a self parody level.
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tldr not reading any of that
>What is wrong with /pol/???
You are whining about /pol/ on bootleg /pol/. Come up with your own thing first.


Thank you for your insightful contribution to this discussion.


at this point i quite frankly think most people on 4chan parrot /pol/ talking points out of a desire to fit in and to not look like a sissy or "soy" more than anything. Just look at the intersection between /pol/ and reddit in the redscarepod and you find that it's mostly pretentious people who don't really lift who want to bully other losers.


It's not a bootleg /pol/ it comes from a board split dating back god it must be nearly 10 years now time flies

Being from before that era imho here holds more authentically to the old board culture with the added bonus of zero stormfag mass spam


tl;dr they're on so many layers of irony that they don't even know what they believe anymore.

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Why do people continue believing in ghosts or souls after Phineas Gage?

I see a handful of religious leftists on here who believe in souls, ghosts, and even silly things like an immutable "National Character" inherent to geographic regions. They usually use these things as an excuse for reactionary idealism or outright sadism.

The "self" is a function of biology, rather than an eternal and immutable immaterial thing.

>Phineas P. Gage (1823–1860) was an American railroad construction foreman remembered for his improbable  survival of an accident in which a large iron rod was driven completely through his head, destroying much of his brain's left frontal lobe, and for that injury's reported effects on his personality and behavior over the remaining 12 years of his life‍—‌effects sufficiently profound that friends saw him (for a time at least) as "no longer Gage". 

>Phineas Gage influenced 19th-century discussion about the mind and brain, par­tic­u­larly debate on cerebral local­i­za­tion,​​ and was perhaps the first case to suggest the brain's role in deter­min­ing per­son­al­ity, and that damage to specific parts of the brain might induce specific mental changes.

Absolutely spooked reactionaries to this day continue to believe we have little ghosty ghosts created by God that determine our personality, our disposition, the kinds of choices we make in our life, and that in turn determines which fictional realm our ghosty ghosts get sent to after we die. When, in reality, something out of your control like an illness or traumatic brain injury can fundamentally change who you are and how you act and the kinds of decisions you make.

Spooked reactionaries are sadists who want to continue to punish people for how the machinery of their brains work, rather than closely study people to determine a path to changing behavior without torture, imprisonment, capital punishment and other reactionary spookery. They say "actions have consequences" not realizing that the "consequences" of actions are socially constructed or that crime and other taboo behaviors are rarely deterred by the severity of punishments.
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>The "self" is a function of biology
so its real?

are souls and selfs the same?


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>so its real?
who's asking?


>so its real?
ask your self


what if no balls?


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Things (pragmata) have not mere objective presence (vorhandenheit), but also a handiness (zuhandenheit), and in average-everydayness we fall into infinite chains of 'in-order-to' via references (verweisungen) between useful things and the 'what-for' (wozu); the mode of being that Heidegger calls circumspection, in which we only perceive things in their handiness. Capital makes heavy use of accessibility, signage, to make things easy to use in production– think about the dull soullessness of modern operating systems and computers; Capital has its own entire branch of study for this - 'ergonomics'. The effect of this is to pull us further into circumspection and out of a recognition of the pure being of things, so that we keep following orders, consuming, obeying, etc.

Things in their pure objective presence only become noticeable for a person stuck in average-everydayness when they break or become unhandy, when there is a 'disruption in the chain of references', bringing us back into the real world and provides real possibility for a re-evaluation of the surrounding world (umwelt). For me this implies that as people who wish to change the world and destroy Capital, we should as our first point of praxis in resistance seek to destroy chains of signification and reference. This calls for not simply protesting calls for people to re-evaluate their relation to labour– but outright sabotage. anti-work. pure destruction of that which pulls people in most into average-everydayness in terms of productive work. large corporations' attempts to ever improve 'accessibility' for the disabled, ease-of-use, ergonomics, etc requires the strongest opposition. the more anti-work and anti-capitalism you are the better, putting up positive ideals for systems has to come after we already have disrupted capitalist signification and brought people back into a sober relation to the objective presence of things so that we can start re-evaluating our relation to the world which has to itself begin with a relation to our own Being. This is not to say protesting capitalism doesn't work since protestations can also yank people out of their average-everydayness but generally it has to be an emotional affair first rather than a rational one.

sooo let's break things ig :)
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im a doggyu


ofc, but that is also one of the angles through which he is attempting to critique marx. i do not agree w his criticism


they're all made up, you're interacting with bots you dumb cunt


>anarchist praxis


Totally don't care engaging in dialogue is a massive force multiplier for thinking and the board tradition and culture is to always take the bait which drives the mods nuts but such is life


Don’t worry about the formula just know the exponent is how long it’s gonna take from 2020 in years for my country, Ghana, to have a rate of births per woman fall to the global replacement level. 40 years doesn’t sound that bad but Ghana has lived for less than 70 around half of those years spent trying to prevent losing independence. Going through so much just to die off so quickly is gonna cause some problems not just here but everywhere else in the continent. Like low birth rates aren’t a new concept but it has not managed to fall as quickly than in Africa, same goes for SEA dudes. Wonder how the rest of the planets gonna adapt to the second half of this century when every country even the ones here can’t provide enough incentives for civilians to reproduce
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Nuclear and hydro are actually pretty damaging ecologically, nuclear gets worse the more you scale because the more uranium you use, the less concentrated deposits you have to mine, the more land you have to process and basically sterilize with sulfuric acid.
Electricity won't be a problem in 10 to 20 years when PV, wind and storage will provide more than we need, and efficient arcologies with public transports could be a thing I guess, but in the end you're still "just" pushing up slightly the limit of the number of humans who can live on the planet without breaking everything. When we will have a better understanding of the environment and sufficiently master bio-engineering, geoengineering, energy, space related tech - and possibly live in some sort of stateless money less society - the limit will be so high it won't matter but in the meantime a little less humans isn't a bad thing if it means more time to develop the stuff we need to get there.




>public transports could be a thing
>uh nuclear and hydro is more damaging to the environment than
This post was sponsored by an American afraid of riding trains. Big oil shill fuck off


if you are from africa you should worry more about climate change than birth rates


>muh fertility
who cares
sage incel posts

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hot take: Kautsky's theory of "ultra imperialism" was ultimately correct, but 100 years ahead of its time. Lenin was correct in the contemporary debate, but Kautsky is correct today. Today we have an ultra-imperialist coalition called NATO that will coup, sanction, embargo, invade, wage proxy wars, and otherwise destabilize any government, even bourgeois governments, that do not align with its economic hegemonic interests. This ultra-imperialism, rather than exporting capital and creating its own future competitors in a developmentalist fashion, has learned from the mistakes of past empires, and now limits the amount of capital it exports. It no longer develops the periphery like the traditional bourgeoisie of the 18th and 19th century did. It instead arrests the development of peripheral countries, so that they can remain neo-colonies for as long as possible. This is done through relatively innocuous methods like coup regimes taking out high interest IMF loans with structural adjustment programs rather than obvious methods like invasion and enslavement. Because of the innocuousness and efficiency of the methods of neocolonialism, the neocolonial relationship is obfuscated and made confusing to the general public, who do not see it operating. It also make geopolitical conflicts more confusing, and can make a power defending against a proxy war look like an aggressor. Furthermore, China is bourgeois, but they are bourgeois in the traditional sense that they actually export capital and help develop the global south, which is why global south nations are choosing to ally with them over the imperial core. Having a traditional imperialist relationship turns out to be less parasitic than having an ultra-imperialist relationship in the same way that being an indentured servant is better than being a slave. Traditional imperialism makes the nations of the periphery indentured servants to the imperial core. Ultra-imperialism constantly resets the clock and arrests development, effectively making them slaves to the imperial core, because their level of development can't catch up enough to throw off the shackles of the imperial relationship and its fundamental wage disparity, even though their development nominally continues. this is the source of all the confused argument over multipolarity/unipolarity, whether such and such nation is bourgeois or not. The difference between comprador and national bourgeoisie now matters more than ever. Also, the climate iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Go ahead.


I was hoping you'd do it lad or lass
I'm trying to settle down and get to sleep after a hard days work and am old and getting long in the tooth


>No one mentioned
I did. I'm steering this conversation now.
>Get a grip
I did. I'm steering this conversation now.


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is this supposed to be an argument?


Do you wanna argue


Palestinian resistance hit back after two days of Israeli air strikes
PALESTINIAN resistance fighters in the Gaza Strip hit back at Israel today after the besieged coastal enclave suffered two days of continuous air strikes by Tel Aviv’s forces. The resistance fired dozens of rockets into Israel in a first response to ongoing Israeli air attacks that have killed 19 Palestinians, including three senior fighters. The rocket fire set off air-raid sirens throughout southern Israel and as far away as the Tel Aviv area 50 miles away.

Two soldiers killed as guerrillas respond to Turkish attacks on guerrilla areas
In its daily overview of the war in Kurdistan, the press centre of the People's Defence Forces (HPG) reported that two soldiers of the Turkish army have been killed in the guerrilla-held Medya Defense Zones in southern Kurdistan (northern Iraq). According to the HPG statement, the Turkish invading forces attacked a guerrilla position in Sîda in the Zap region on Tuesday.

Turkey Elections: Gulf investments likely to be challenged if Erdogan loses
Several Gulf Arab states have a large stake in Turkey’s presidential elections, and stand to have their years-long investments scrutinized if President Recep Tayyip Erdogan loses his 20-year power streak. Saudi Arabia injected $5 billion in Turkey’s central bank in March to help strengthen the country’s currency after the two massive earthquakes that devastated its people and economy the month before.

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TKP-ML TİKKO General Command: The people’s fighter are immortal!
We learned that Ka Laan by his name Benito Tiamzon, chairman of the central executive council of the Communist Party of the Philippines, and Ka Bagong-Tao, by her name Wilma Austria- Tiamzon, general secretary, and eight commanders and fighters of the New People’s Army were murdered by the fascist philipines state. Comrades, we, as the commanders and fighters of TIKKO affiliated to our party TKP-ML, want you to know that we feel the deep pain of the working class of the Philippines and of the valuable fighters and commanders of the New People’s Army, with great hatred and anger. After the passing away of Comrade Ka Joma, the immortal leader of the Philipine working class and the Communist Party of the Philippines, the loss of Comrades Ka Laan and Ka Bagong-Tao, who dedicated their entire lives to the liberation of the Filipino people, is only a blip in our great struggle for communism. We believe that in 55 years of uninterrupted struggle for the new democratic revolution, comrades Ka Laan and Ka bagong- Tao have educated thousands of cadres and fighters under the guidance of Ka Joma. We believe that thousands of Ka Laan and Ka bagong-Tao flags are now flying high in the islands of the Philippines. Millions of workers and peasants will become the hammer and sickle that will explode in the brains of the fascists. As long as the peoples of the Philippines and the world seek freedom, dozens communists will continue to shine like red stars. Now we have more reasons than ever to fight against imperialism, fascism, feudalism, patriarchy, comprador capitalism and all forms of reaction. Already a great fear has gripped imperialism and its local collaborators.

Japan’s Labor Movement Is Taking Up the Demands of Part-Time and Temporary Workers
The Spring Offensive, an annual campaign in which trade unions across Japan come together to raise joint demands, has been a fixture of the country’s organized labor movement for decades. But its influence has been waning recently, as the voices of increasingly numerous “nonregular” workers — those on part-time and temporary contracts — have historically been excluded. But thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>A series of attacks around the world on car dealerships and authorized dealers of certain vehicle brands in recent years opened up the suggestion of a strategic line: anyone who provides mobility and transportation for the police is treated as an enemy.

Bro the IRA is stepping up their Game as far away as German, god damn. Good on those that are doing this. Fuck them Pigs.


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Thanks Newz Anon




Anon you must be confused. This had 0 relation to the IRA.


Has electronic mass media made people stupid??

I can't help but feeling that literacy peaked in the 19th century and that radio, television, internet, etc. has made it possible to interact with material on a very shallow level and shortened attention spans.
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>reddit comprehension


>April 1912, Titanic just sunk, imagine if the first couple pages, instead being about such a huge tragedy, was 10 pages of some celebrity shitting himself after getting black out drunk at a bourgeois party. >This is how news is done today, irrelevant tabloids are blasted into the front page of the internet and all the important stuff is relegated to the ass end of "the newspaper of the internet".
That's a pertinent observation. I'm not entirely sure it holds up if you wisdom the "frontpage of the internet" analogy but with any sort of "legacy news outlet" (the only ones with "access") it certainly rings true.
Reminds me of German Hesse's "Glass Bead Game" though.
Written between 1931-1943, in Germany, GBG is anti-fascist Hesse describing bougie Weimar Germany's purposeful blindness and refusal to believe a(nother) war was headed their way by means of a deep and total immersion in complete bullshit of the sort you seen to be describing.
The age takes its name from the feuilletons. They seem to have formed an uncommonly popular section of the daily newspapers, were produced by the millions, and were a major source of mental pabulum for the reader in want of culture. They reported on, or rather "chatted" about, a thousand-and-one items of knowledge. It would seem, moreover, that the cleverer among the writers of them poked fun at their own work.
The producers of these trivia were in some cases attached to the staffs of the newspapers; in other cases they were free-lance scriveners. Frequently they enjoyed the high-sounding title of "writer," but a great many of them seem to have belonged to the scholar class. Quite a few were celebrated university professors. (And how much more so today? With "the collapse of news journalism"?)

Among the favorite subjects of such essays were anecdotes taken from the lives or correspondence of famous men and women. They bore such titles as "Friedrich Nietzsche and Women's Fashions of 1870," or "The Composer Rossini's Favorite Dishes," or "The Role of the Lapdog in the Lives of Great Courtesans," and so on. (90% of The Guardian articles come to mind here… ) Another popular type of article was the
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See "The Shallows'" by Nicholas Carr, esp Chapter 7, where he dives into the science behind, ahem, "internet brain shrink".
It's not just the material it's, if the studies are to be believed, the medium. Every hotlink and flashing (or not) [alternative to reading] occupies a sliver of your available attention span and hinders both comprehension and recall. Not to mention the nosedive in empathy caused by "internet addiction"(and at this point who isn't an addict)?
Carr brought this up 10+ years ago and was ridiculed and then ignored. Few new studies came forth. There was and is just too much money to be made, apparently.
That's the non-schizo, non-Qtard, non-"conspiracy" view at least. Otherwise…

Anyways, here's the article his book was based off:
& the book is available on Library Genesis if you want to try before you buy.


Most these guys threads should be in the questions that don't need their own thread… thread. But they never bad questions or some reactionary shit.


>Has electronic mass media made people stupid
With media, it isn't the media itself but the content the media promotes. Unfortunately, the proles get celebrity tabloids, right-wing propaganda and pseudo-science. I always found it odd how The Things They Don't Want You To Know seem to be very much favored by the social media algorithms. Instead of real science, you get quackery and metaphysics. Instead of history, you get Ancient Aliens and pop history from some White suburbanite that loves to talk about war a lot but would not be caught dead near any battlefield. Did I mention that he collects Nazi memorabilia and has very edgy opinions of Black people? A part of me thinks its deliberate, given how it is literally shoved in your face by the Youtube algorithm while academic journals and articles are hidden behind paywalls.

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Can't believe a dating app can be legal fucked so hard

>can't use the word "match"

>can't use a heart in its logo
>must remove all swiping

How dare you infringe on my monopoly intellectual property.
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Al Jizz Era


Calling apps like Tinder "dating apps" is a a bit too generous. It's a sexual meat market on your phone where you appraise and ultimately consume other people.


Speak for yourself..? I use it to find friends


That's not how 99% of the people who use Tender use the app. They use it for "hookups." Meeting strangers for sex.



Why don't more people just stop financially supporting corporations like Walmart and Amazon? Why isn't union membership and going on strike more popular? Do the majority of people just not care? What's the cause of their apathy?
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>Why don't more people just stop financially supporting corporations like Walmart
I like their jewelry and accesories



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now THIS is a watch


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If anons wanna go shopping with me, it's not about looking nice, it's about looking like… [*turns on 'Welcome to the Jungle' by Guns N' Roses]

And there's a 10-year lifespan.


>Unfortunately, as you have pointed out, conditions are in the midst of deteriorating yet it is primarily Europe that is getting off its ass to do things (see France for instance) yet in the land of burger and kangaroo and moose, this is not really happening.
The land of the emu has never had a war (the initial invasion and massacres don't count, an aerial raid on Darwin in WWII doesn't count),
Our main symbol of rebellion comes from some 1850s gold miners fighting police, involving a couple of hundred people. The next biggest symbol is random bush robbers like Ned Kelly. We've never had a revolution in written history. I think I can say the same about beaverland and kiwiland. Eagleland has had far more rebellion and even a civil war.
platypusland had the 1891 Shearers' strike, which by the way isn't in the history curriculum, which was poorly timed and led to them running out of food. However it is credited as leading to the Australian Labor Party, the first national succdem government in the world, who are now very meh (currently in government, and in all the states except Tasmania, in a pink tide following the horror that was the last 10 years).


Thank you for this post.


My fucking God when will it stop? Well, the answer to that is NEVER. Even if it fucking stopped, people still have nukes, dirty / salted bombs, ransomware that can shutdown the power grid of a large city, sabotaging a nuclear power plant, chemical weapons (like Sarin), biological agents, or airplanes (assuming we do see a repeat of 9/11 which is extremely doubtful). And that's not even an exhaustive list either.

What do you suggsst we do to curb this (aside from gun control laws)? I'm at a loss for words.
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I really wonder if Elon actually is making all these tweets.
It’s sobering to think the richest man in the world is so lonely and devoid of purpose that he pathetically spends his days posting random incendiary comments on social media.



Does this really need its own thread on the 'log

wait till you hear about
Paris, Texas
East Palestine, Ohio
Kansas City, Missouri
there's a ton of cities like this


The Kanas City, Missouri one pisses me off so much for no rational reason than the sheer confusion in brings to me. When the Train Derailment and Subsequent Forced Train explosion in East Palestine, Ohio, I swear I was like What the fuck have the Israelis done in Palestine to Derail a Fucking Train.


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