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 No.154596[Reply]

I need some help. When it comes to unemployment, and welfare and things of the sorts all you ever here is /pol and other conservatards say shit like "Goshdarn naggers, wimenz and non-whites don't work and get all muh hard earned monez." But, is any of that true? And how much does it matter if the govt is pissing away money and resources on far more frivolous shit that reactionaries are eager to support. Last I remember, white americans are actually the bulk of welfare recipients, which I told a pol tard once and they replied per capita. Which, I don't see what difference that makes. Also as black dude in my thirties I've worked my whole adult like, often a lot harder than other people and witnessed plenty of non-whites out pacing and out doing white americans.
>in b4 idpol.
Lets please not be weak and pathetic cowards here. I'm just looking for some answers is all.
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 No.154629

>>154628
Sorry. Middle reply wasn't supposed to be a question.
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 No.154641

>>154627
Stupidpol is liberal as fuck, everyone there is college educated and lgbt threads always gets hundreds of replies. Tons of radfems too since their subs got banned. Dont be confused by the boomer tier racism
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 No.154661

>>154641
It's just full of midwits who want to have an opinion on something and the culture war (anti or pro) is an easy thing to have an opinion on.
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 No.154673

>>154628
>Thanks, fam. But that ships sailed long ago.
Has it? Most nations have considerable social welfare.
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 No.154696

>>154673
Sorry, I'm an idiot. I meant that reply for >>154625


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 No.151675[Reply]

Lately on tik tok (i downloaded it after pressure for my sister I am not that Gen z) there is a heavy discussion on whether soviet union was oppressive or even genocidal against Jewish people, now of course i take no claims like that seriously but i am asking here for takes on the issue.
I know the eastern block had antisemitism problems (Poland) but i don't think it spread to the ussr outside of anti religious sentiment
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 No.153735

Stalin straight-up supported the formation of the state of Israel.
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 No.154457

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>>151723
I want to fuck the catgirl
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 No.154460

>>152351
Samefag
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 No.154618

>>151675
>Lately on tik tok there is a heavy discussion on whether soviet union was oppressive or even genocidal against Jewish people
What the fuck
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 No.154800

>>154457
I prefer catboys tbh


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 No.148944[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The neoluddite tendencies kind of make me want to hide my general interests in various sorts of scientific technologies. Whenever I talk about 3d printing, hydroponics, or shit even just old tech some zoomer always comes in to tell me I'm cringe and that we need to "return to monkee"
This shit is so old.
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 No.154464

I think this Luddite is a Barracks Communist.
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 No.154471

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>>148944
>Be me
>Want to accelerate the advance of technology to bring an end to scarcity
>Capitalism requires scarcity, and will thus create patents for better tech so that we bow to corporate overlords who hold a monopoly on the technology
>mfw
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 No.154479

>>154471
>capitalism requires scarcity
Anti Marxist nonsense.
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 No.154501

>>154479
It requires a scarcity of MoP, at the very least. If everyone has their own, there is little need to sell labor when commodities could instead be traded, possibly with the assistance of informal social credit.
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 No.154588

>>154462
Yes, I work at a factory right now, I've worked at six different ones now, to which I liked or disliked to varying degrees and have seen production run quite differently at times. Some were quite unpleasant, some have been OK or even good.


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 No.150675[Reply]

We are running out of time to not end with barbarism (followed by extinction) for this world. Yet, communists are still too irrellevant to do anything against capital. I'm not even a third worldist, since also there communist movements are too weak. Why is there nothing in Africa, the most exploited continent on Earth? India also doesn't look like a coming revolution.
Even looking at history, where communist movements have been much bigger and stronger in the west, they weren't successfull. Now, the ruling bourgeoisie has more means to suppress it with propaganda, historical revisionism, subversion, infiltration, sabotage and direct state violence, while we are smaller and weaker than in the past.
I'm still relatively new to this by just being a zoomer activist for about two years, but I already feel burned out from utter frustration. There was some potential with the climate movement for further radicalisation, but this has also been too small since the beginning and had no significant growth since it started. Corona just basically pushed it into irrelevance, made liberals become full on impossible to radicalise, which proceeded to continue bootlicking the government again and "democracy" to voot problems away. The complete failure of western governments to handle the Corona crisis, has not made socialist radicalisation possible either, since people tend to just become reactionary Covid deniers instead, where law enforcement doesn't prosecute them for breaking the law either, but outright walk with them in support instead (which the latter was to be expected but still).

Maybe, I'm just doomin' like Lenin used to at the beginning of WW1, but I don't see how any coming worsening material conditions for proles could possibly break the majority of them out of their capitalist realism, be it in the imperialist core or in the hyper-exploited world.

This is truly the worst timeline. Are we really doomed?
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 No.152432

>>151442
>But if you're really that fucking impatient, 1905 will come when America's Battle of Tsushima comes.
>The more America keeps waging war, the closer it gets to the brink.
America has only waged war with substantially weaker countries in far-off lands since the end of WWII, so it doesn't seem likely that this would happen anytime soon. Also, even if it did, there's no guarantee that people would turn to socialism in response.

>>151442
>Building section tensions in the US
<America won't survive the 19th century!
>Civil War takes off
<America won't survive the 19th century!
>Long Depression starts
<America won't survive the 19th century!
>Great Depression starts
<America won't survive the 20th century!
>Cold War starts
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 No.152775

>>150699
>constantly glowing Okhrana
kek
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 No.152785

>>152432
Reminds me of all the shit saying that China will collapse any day now. It’s the funniest shit.
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 No.154539

>>151083
>The soviets conquered russia with only around 8% of the population's support.
According to voting into the Constituent Assembly, bolsheviks had around 25% support, coming second behind SRs with around 40% support. While slightly less than 50% of eligible voters casted their votes it still shows that ideas of socialism in Russia was quite the popular one.


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 No.154153[Reply]

If capitalism revolutionized the old way of knowing the world that existed before capitalism then proletarian science will uncover what bourgeois science does not know, therefore is the Big Bang Theory wrong?
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 No.154461

>>154444
Lysenko was ridiculed in the 60's soviet union after normal, scientifically correct agronomy became the norm. We must learn from the past rather than fall into the exact same pitfalls over and over again for ideological "purity" that won't even aid the revolution.
>>154448
We do not need to reinvent the wheel just because the capitalists got to it first. If bourgeoise science and innovation is useful for the worker's state, it can and should be used. If the science is done right, it does not matter who was doing it. That is how science works, it seeks to uncover the truth about the world; things that are true regardless of what material conditions exist behind its discovery.
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 No.154465

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>>154425
They were revisionists.
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 No.154474

>>154461
Truth is something purely bourgeois based on the bourgeois philosophical search for “truth”. Which is a purely ideal end, as idealistic as any bourgeois science or philosophy. Proletarian science and truth is a different truth and science to the bourgeois science, not only quantitatively but qualitatively; there is no similarity between the two. Proletarian science is based on pragmatic simple realities, not bourgeois cosmology or bourgeois physics or bourgeois philosophy. Proletarian pragmatism doesn’t concern itself with complex systems, just simple pragmatic things.
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 No.154495

>>154474
>The sky is blue

<Nooo, noo, the sky is red that's bourgeoisie science.


Would you retards shut the fuck up already? You have nothing of value to say you are just regurgitating fecal matter out of your mouth.
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 No.154510

Moved to >>>/b/25736.


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 No.153783[Reply]

ITT post short stories, OC or collected.
Roughly 100 - 1500 words.
Whatever format (normal prose, greentext, etc)

Exercise your creativity by sitting down and writing something short.
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 No.154197

Bump
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 No.154257

This is a good thread but I don't write creatively in English. :(
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 No.154361

"It wasn't as if this hasn't happened before" He thought gloomily as the building shook around him. It had been months since the siege on Houston had begun. He could actually remember the day quite clearly as it had been one of the nicest days that Texas had seen in a good long time. The Smog from the factories had cleared up and it was only 90F outside. What made the day so memorable was how none of the ads that usually light up the roads and streets appeared, well both that and how the sound of the industry and machinery had disappeared. For a world that only knew Production and Consumption the sound of production halting caused a form of mass panic. Or it would have had the coup not succeeded. Houston had been a corporation city ever since The Third Texas succession preceding the collapse of the American Federation. The Oil Magnates of the old world had once almost been driven out after the Great Peoples revolt of 2027 when climate change had gotten so bad it forced people to die or immediately change energy collection methods. Of course this didnt stop those old ghouls from just buying out all the renewable energy sources, but they were no where near as profitable. Once Texas had seceded the switch back to oil was nigh instantaneous with the Oil Wells running suspiciously well after 20 years of disuse. "Enough of that" He thought, "With the shelling coming to the end I should report to the nearest peoples committee and who or what needs help. And so he did, grabbing his rifle and making his way through the debris and rubble to find anyone who needed help.


Okay, this is pretty shitty I know and was off the top of my head so Ill take any criticism, as long as it makes sense. I do apologize for making yall read that though. But if you do want more/continuation of the background please say so.

Also this should probably go in /hobby/
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 No.154424

>>154361
dont worry, its good! the setting is interesting right at the the start and throughout. maybe a bit too much information packed in there though and too little actual plot/character.

Has kinda given me some inspiration to write something myself.


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 No.153212[Reply]

Since the beginning of this year we have seen coup plots sprouting around the world in 3 different countries (Myanmar, Niger, Jorda) in the span of 4 months.
Normal stuff or sign of something shifting?
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 No.153834

>>153827
The struggle continues Anon.
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 No.153840

>>153827
spurdo is timeless
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 No.153953

Military-Social elites are worried that the systems of democracy can't handle with the post-coronavirus issues and getting ahead of the revolution.
We live in a time of monsters.
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 No.153960

>>153212
rise in political instability mainly due to a catastrophic rise in inequality due to the effects of the Pandemic
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 No.154400

Because chickens need coups to feed.


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 No.151620[Reply]

Why are libs promoting "equitability" instead of "equality"?

>The goal, DuBois said, is an “equitable economy for cultural understanding” where leaders of color are paid for helping brands avoid major mistakes in their ad campaigns, corporate policies, diversity and inclusion plans, philanthropy and product launches.
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 No.154269

>>154021
Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea to name a few.
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 No.154308

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 No.154317

>>154308
>no argument
lel
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 No.154327

>>153816
>that would make the working class the ruling class.
Yes, and?
What do you think the dictatorship of the proletariat is?
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 No.154336

>>153816
Your theoretical foundations are impractical and retarded, and so is your practice, why? Because you’ve never lived in a dictatorship of the proletariat or managed one so therefore you empirically have nothing to back up your nonsense.


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 No.70875[Reply]

Hi, Leftypol!

I'm the editor of New Multitude, an online magazine for left writers across the globe.

We are non sectarian and so you may not agree with everything we publish, but we are committed to bringing forward new voices. In the past year we have published articles from Uk, Hungary, Sudan, Myanmar, Brazil, Singapore and we are always looking for more! Either if it's a guide to a country's political scene/potential or on the ground reporting or an application of theory..we need you!

[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/newmultitude/ (new normiebook page!)
twitter.com/newmultitude
https://www.patreon.com/newmultitude (NM has no sponsors or corporate backing, please consider a small solidarity donation if you can afford it and appreciate the content. If not, no problem, nothing is paywalled|)


BRAND NEW ARTICLE on the Myanmar Coup. Please read and share if you want to understand the political economy of the coup. We have got some positive reviews of this so far and it even got referenced in a Chuancn.org article.

>Perhaps the idea of the ‘bloc’ was always flawed at one level, given that as long as the Tatmadaw remain an autonomous militia unaccountable to anyone but themselves, an elite partnership is an ontological impossibility. Nevertheless, the institutional oppositions of the power elite are conducted on a platform built on a broad consensus (or doxa) of a political economy based on extractive capitalism and a centralized Bamar-State.

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 No.153676

>>153113
Thank you for your feedback.

Actually we have quite a few articles relevant to west some of them:

The potential and the historical limitations of the proliferation of Marxism-Leninism in the Brazilian youth
Well it says Brazilian youth, but this is actually very relevant to all Marxist Leninists:
>Reproducing postmodern cultural logic, many people have resorted to the revolutionary theory of the proletariat as an individual response to the impacts of the contemporary identity crisis. It is in this sense that several times Marxism-Leninism has erroneously appeared to the youth: simply as an identity, a kind of new social tribe to participate in. It is a mercantile absorption of the theoretical construction that aims to overcome the capitalist mode of production.
>https://newmultitude.org/andre-brandao-the-potential-and-the-historical-limitations-of-the-proliferation-of-marxism-leninism-in-the-brazilian-youth-translation/

Is the UK a managed Democracy? A look at the UK State
>https://newmultitude.org/is-the-uk-a-managed-democracy/
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 No.153784

>>103520
Just made a new thread since the first one fell off the board >>153783
Go write some shit anons.
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 No.153993

>>153113
Why don't you write something for them then?
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 No.154004

>>153113
Pretty sure the site is open for anybody to submit but they prefer it not to be US/euro centric. Maybe some people have interpreted that too strongly and are reticent to post articles.
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 No.154240

>>154004
Yeah it's definitely open for any submissions, But the express goal of the journal is building worldwide links, so I specifically reach out to writers across the world and invite them to write for us.

But yeah there's no limits. (actually we don't have anything on the US right now, so if an Anon wants to step up, that would be great!)


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 No.152513[Reply]

How can anyone believe capitalism won't collapse in our lifetime? It's either world revolution by 2030-2040, or we get this hellscape by 2050.
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 No.153118

>>152815
You're right in that capitalism can easily survive this. It's a pretty versatile system and it doesn't just "collapse" even if times are really really bad. Bad times hit the poorest, and really bad times hit the middle class and large sectors of the bourgeoisie. The likely outcome and one that is already in motion is that oligarchs gobble up everything and make themselves de facto kings and lords (quite literally, actually; when the private corporation and wealthy magnate doesn't really need the pretense of a republic and owns the state outright, does he really need to pretend that he isn't a king and that he can't just make subordinates his vassals?) You'd still have private property and the market mechanisms are useful for a diversified economy, so you aren't just going fully back to feudalism (though you'd have quite a bit of slavery and serfdom).
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 No.153125

>>152863
I was talking the other day with an American politics-follower and he was convinced that America doing some sort of socialism was highly likely, given the enormity of what America is up against. At the very least, it's going to be necessary to begin some mass mobilization, unless America really wants to exterminate 100+ million of its people because the market says no. Since doing this means bending the knee to China and letting the whole world get its revenge on Burgerland, to do so would be suicidal and probably lead to a revolt. Only way they could keep it up and hold power would be maximum degeneration and a level of death and brutality difficult to imagine, that would make Yeltsin look tame. They might try for that, and the elites just leave the people to rot. It would line up with how few shits anyone seems to have about doing anything with this country. My guess is that there are too many people in this country who see what a horrible idea all of this is. The only other alternative is WW3 with probably ends in total defeat.
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 No.153133

>>153006
Ecology as a discipline is based on Malthus' population principles as a central part of what defines an ecosystem. Without it, a lot of ecology isn't descriptive of much that is useful. There's a certain truth to it - ecosystems do have limited resources, and there is only so much human beings can do about it.

I just think the predictions of famine are way off, just as the predictions in the late 60s and 70s were totally wrong and nothing like the expected famine of the 90s happened. When they rewrite the history books, they usually crow about how it's all thanks to population and sterilization programs in India and the one child policy in China, but it's almost entirely due to increased mechanization, changes in agronomy, and simply cultivating the land necessary. That America grows so much corn it doesn't know what to do with it should be indicative that this is a distribution problem. People in Africa know this is very much a political and social problem rather than they themselves being too stupid to know how to farm, and even then the problem is not production but getting food to people.
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 No.153205

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>>153133
>Ecology as a discipline is based on Malthus' population principles as a central part of what defines an ecosystem. Without it, a lot of ecology isn't descriptive of much that is useful.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you type, get in the cube already don't ever leave it.
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 No.153926

>>152717
"Mainstream ecologists" sounds like some kind of dogwhistling. Ecologists are just scientists studying ecosystems and reporting their findings truthfully. Don't shoot the messenger, is what I'm getting at.


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