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1-Teleological narrative: Communism offers a worldview with a clear historical purpose, such as the class struggle culminating in a classless society, resembling the eschatological narratives of traditional religions (e.g., the idea of a "paradise" or "salvation"). The idealized "communist future" functions as a transcendent goal.
2-Dogmas and orthodoxy: Communism, especially in its Marxist-Leninist form, presents canonical texts (e.g., Capital or the Communist Manifesto) and a "correct" interpretation of history and society, with little room for dissent. This resembles the orthodoxy of organized religions.
3-Rituals and symbols: Communist movements often adopt rituals, such as celebrations of revolutionary dates, anthems, flags, and cults of personality (e.g., Lenin, Mao, or Che Guevara), which reinforce social cohesion and devotion to the cause, similar to religious practices.
4-Morality and sacrifice: Communism demands loyalty, personal sacrifice, and adherence to a moral code (e.g., proletarian solidarity), often prioritizing the collective over the individual, echoing the ethics of many religions.
5-Faith in transformation: The belief in a radical transformation of society, even in the face of contrary evidence or practical difficulties, can be compared to religious faith, particularly in its resistance to empirical questioning.
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>>2502499
>Teleological
Misinterpretation of Marxism, though it is a usefull one and I am not going to actively stop it among the masses
>Dogmas and orthodoxy
Sure to some extend. But all ideological frameworks have a canon, and this canon is ever shifting to support cohesion.
>Symbols and rituals
Ok and? Isn't it more that religion is ritual with superstition, rather than ritual being religious? Is celebrating your birthday a religious thing?
>Faith in transformation
To accuse the slave of being religious in his belief that he must free himself and his drive that one day his people will be free, is the height of misanthropic intellectualism.

>>2505460
Forgot
>Morality and sacrifice
This is actually just a fundamental building block of human society, miss Thatcher. Adherence to behaviour that protects the in group and sacrifice for the in group is basic human behaviour.
Everything you listed as "religious" is actually just things that religion has incorporated.

>>2504201
If I deny your accusation, it just feeds you. What does it matter whether I am or not?

Spoiler, I'm not.

>>2505471
Why are you so bigoted?

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>>2502499
Things I've heard called religion: sports, environmentalism, celebrity worship, patriotism, atheism, drug culture, love, the concept of luck, Capitalism (a "real god"). If true why should I care? Sounds like the human mind is primed for religion then.



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You know what the problem is with communism? It isn't funny. You can say about capitalism what ever you want, but perhaps because it is so irrational, it creates a lot of funny stuff (even if it costs tons of rescoruces). The thing is, communism is the opposite of capitalism. Communism is rational, capitalism is irrational. But isn't existence as a whole absurd anyway? So what if the capitalists are right in the end?
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>>2504822
>>2504827
Money means nothing if it's hyper inflated. What you mean is not money, but wealth. Wealth is not only concentrated in as few hands as possible under capitalism, but there is planned obsolescence, artificial scarcity, and deliberate destruction of productive forces during crises of overproduction. So all of capitalism's wealth creation abilities are limited by privatization and the profit motive. This is why you see fast fashion and cell phones being thrown out after 1 year.

Sam Altman murdered a man

>>2505355
I'm sure most billionaires have at least a few bodies, if not directly, then indirectly.

>>2505269
Since your hyper inflated money means nothing can I have it? Thanks.

>>2505262
Yeah, I can notice it if I pay attention, but I have to say I did not think it was AI from the moment I saw it like I usually do and that's scary, man
Part of me always believed it could never get THAT good but that's just a cope



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Some time ago I made a post as a kind of vent about the need for revolutionary violence and the importance of militancy.

In that post, people recommended some articles about guerrilla warfare and violence, which I had saved until I finally made a digital reading list; however, they were lost because I had to reset my phone.

Although I tried to search for them, I don't clearly remember which articles they were, and then I thought maybe I could ask here if you could share readings on the subject so I can see which ones they were.

It would be a great help if you could.

There's bunch of sruff in /AKM/

>>2505450
They were more theoretical readings and I swear I posted on this board, although thanks for the recommendation anyway.



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>>2498833
Cool story bro. Trufax: all Russians have been killed by being sent in on meat waves, and what passes for Russian now are nano machine cyborgs that pretend to be human. Why didn't the Russians send their nano machines to do the fighting for them? Who cares, now Russian babies are evil and can be killed!

>>2498457
>Russia's long-term future is in Europe
no it's not

>>2498625
every communist from marx to mao supports national right to self determination

>>2498452
The only real war experience left in the US military is senior officers who might have seen action in Iraq 2003 as battalion level officers. And that was much more one sided than the Yankoids like to pretend. Wehraboos will claim it is about the cultural shifts that war time militaries undergo but the GWoT period was notorious for officers being cycled through just to get a ribbon, and subsequently getting fuck all experience and no punishment for incompetence.

The majority of junior enlisted turn over after four years, which means the majority have never seen any action beyond guarding an airfield in Oman. Special operations personnel last ten-twenty years. Senior NCOs last twenty (to qualify for retirement full pension). So currently only some turbo-lifer SNCOs who are staying in beyond retirement age would have been involved in 2003.

>>2498679
>voronezh republic
what the fuck is this kek
why they think that black-earth is not russia kek



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Why do leftists deny the existence of the nomenklatura class? That is, the class of professional officials (rus. сhinovniks).

Why is the nomenklatura a class?
1. They have specialized universities and specialized faculties that train the nomenklatura: the Institute of Public Administration, Customs, Law, Diplomacy, the Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and so on.
2. They never change their occupation. Once they become members of the nomenklatura, they only move from one government position to another.
3. They pass on their membership in the class by inheritance. The child of an official is highly likely to become an official.
4. They have their own closed social circle. Officials almost never hang out with proles.
5. They are empowered to control the means of production.
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NOMENKLATVRA VGH

>>2505249
I said in my post why nomenklatura is a class

>>2505270
Those criteria are applicable to most professions and workers in ussr.

>Why is the nomenklatura a class?
None of those are descriptors of relations of production, and apply to pretty much any profession. The only one that comes close is that they're "empowered to control the means of production" but this is actually pretty vague, and also not entirely true. Middle managers were usually considered "nomenklatura" but they didn't have the kind of power over their firms that members of the bourgeoisie did. They were directly answerable to both officials above them and the trade union apparatus below them, which could and did stand up to them regularly. If you were going to use this alone to argue that they were a class, it would realistically only be applicable to the very top of the party and Gosplan hierarchy where there was less direct accountability to the people above and below them. The nomenklatura (or more accurately the bureaucracy) was a very real social stratum in Soviet society, one with unique characteristics and distinct interests, however it simply did not fit the definition of a separate class as described by Marx. They were state employees like everybody else, and being relatively privileged is not enough to constitute a separate class.

The kind of arguments OP is making were made in a much better and smarter way by ex-communist James Burnham in 1941 in his book The Managerial Revolution. But Burnham was still wrong. So where does that leave us?

>Burnham agreed with Marxists that the capitalist class would inevitably lose the class struggle, but disagreed that they would lose to the working class due to this class being too disorganized and weak. He instead argued that a new class called the managerial class would win against the capitalist class. Burnham defines this new class as the individuals responsible for "the tasks of the technical direction and coordination of the process of production." The managerial class is responsible for directing technical experts, including "operating executives, superintendents, administrative engineers, supervisory technicians; or, in government … administrators, commissioners, bureau heads, and so on." According to Burnham, the managerial class has risen due to the increasing complexity and large scope of modern economies. Because doing certain tasks requires hyper specific technical knowledge, the capitalist class cannot perform all of the necessary tasks by themselves. This means that the capitalist class has to employ individuals who manage other individuals engaged in technical work. By doing this, the capitalist class has made themselves obsolete, since the managers are the individuals who actually control production. Although the managerial class is still employed by the capitalist class, Burnham argued that this arrangement was irreconcilable. This would eventually result in the managerial class who actually owns production seizing it from the capitalist class who owns it in name only. According to Burnham, the managerial class would seize power by implementing state ownership of production. Due to the complexity and large scale of modern economies, Burnham argues that this form of state ownership would prove more efficient than rule by individual capitalists. The "managerial revolution", according to Burnham, would result in the decline of capitalist democracy and the rise of managerial control of production while using "the unlimited state" as a vehicle.


>Analyzing the emerging forms of society around the world, Burnham saw certain commonalities between the economic formations of Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, and America under Roosevelt's New Deal. Burnham
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The comparison sounds like a paradox. Who does not know that Europe is advanced and Asia backward? But the words taken for this title contain a bitter truth.

In civilised and advanced Europe, with its highly developed machine industry, its rich, multiform culture and its constitutions, a point in history has been reached when the commanding bourgeoisie, fearing the growth and increasing strength of the proletariat, comes out in support of every thing backward, moribund and medieval. The bourgeoisie is hying out its last days, and is joining with all obsolete and obsolescent forces in an attempt to preserve tottering wage-slavery.

Advanced Europe is commanded by a bourgeoisie which supports everything that is backward. The Europe of our day is advanced not thanks to, but in spite of, the bourgeoisie, for it is only the proletariat that is adding to the million-strong army of fighters for a better future. It alone preserves and spreads implacable enmity towards backwardness, savagery, privilege, slavery and the humiliation of man by man.

In “advanced” Europe, the sole advanced class is the proletariat. As for the living bourgeoisie, it is prepared to go to any length of savagery, brutality and crime in order to uphold dying capitalist slavery.

And a more striking example of this decay of the entire European bourgeoisie can scarcely be cited than the support it is lending to reaction in Asia in furtherance of the selfish aims of the financial manipulators and capitalist swindlers.
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>>2505130
>>2505087

Libs in recent times have greatly exaggerated the 'islamic golden age'. While the Arabs did contribute, they make it sound now like Europeans were dumb barbarians and Arabs figured everything out like mega-geniuses. Funny how they just inverted the previous narrative of 'europeans are divine geniuses and Arabs are barbaric warrior-tribes'.
Even in the old days, there was a lot of circulation of information. In ancient times (before 500AD), most (not all) of the mathematical advances were in Greece, Rome, and India. In the 'classical' age (500AD-1300AD), the Arabs surged on the stage, with India still up there. As from 1300, India gradually fell far behind, Arabs stagnated and fell, while Europe surged forward. After the enlightenment, Europe was number 1. As from the Industrial Revolution, it was not even comparable anymore, Europe achieved unprecedented domination. To the point where one could only focus on Europe and disregard any insignificant Mathematical and scientific work produced elsewhere.
Parallel to that, you had China, who also came up with much mathematical development in the ancient and classical age. But I consider them 'parallel' as there was lesser cross-pollination with the Indians, Arabs, Europeans because of the great distance between them.

>>2505148
Dummy, the narrative is that arabs just preserved the ancient texts and knowledge and maybe did come up with something.

>>2505148
>Even in the old days, there was a lot of circulation of information
Yes. The thing that drives me insane about libs and fascists alike is that they have a very silo'd view of history, iykwim, where every country or group is off doing it's own thing independent of others with little crossover. In reality though we know travel has happened across the mediterranean forever, we know trade between the indian-arabic geographic blocs have existed for an also staggering amount of time.
These theories western historians come up with are all just racism and nation-building with post-hoc mythmaking to justify it.

>>2505148
>In ancient times (before 500AD), most (not all) of the mathematical advances were in Greece, Rome, and India.

And then before the Greeks forged their huge global empire under Alexander the Great they were just a bunch of primitive savages while huge empires from the Middle East/Africa were conquering the world and had the most technologically advanced societies at the time. You try to figure out who did it first and you just end up going all the way back to the first humans in Africa.

Yeah but what about communism?



 

One of the most important New Afrikan women revolutionaries passed away today.

Assata was a tireless fighter for her people, a symbol of resistance for all those who fight against white supremacy, US imperialism, and police brutality. In 1984, Assata took refuge in Cuba where she lived free from fascist AmeriKKKan persecution for the rest of her life.

Why leftypol doesn’t acknowledge her and her legacy exposes the reactionary nature of this board.

Rest in power Assata. Your legacy will live on forever.
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>>2497789
All this talk of heroism or whatever you call it, just ends up taking the place of the people who actually need the revolution. Class struggle comes from the day-to-day fight of the proletariat, not because you want to play hero or throw yourself at the state.

The whole idea of a "selfless revolutionary martyr" is just a moralistic fantasy ripped straight out of bourgeois crap about sacrifice, service, and higher duty. This is exactly the bourgeois morality of sacrifice, a petty craving for recognition masquerading as heroism.

>>2504378
What are you a left commie ultra?

>>2497126
Man, whoever got to mating press this WOMAN is one lucky bastard.

>>2504378
Truclear nuth.

>tfw when you will never clap Ass-ata's milfy mature big black booty cheeks.
Why even live?



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I think people underestimate the USA. I think the USA would lose in a normal war against the PRC. But the USA doesn't play fair. I think the USA would pull every dirty trick in the book and only escalate to open warfare when the PRC is already destabilized. I believe that USA would definitely use chemical and biological weapons. The ground would be prepared with drugs, crime, fascist pedo-cults, schizo-spree killers, heightened ethnic conflict, mass protests and labor strikes. The next step would be escalation into sanctions, lawfare, plagues and mass poisonings. Then a proxy war in Xinjiang, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea. The USA would only actually step in when the PRC is already half-dead.
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>>2503518
Nuclear missiles are different. The first wave of warheads will explode in the atmosphere and the heat and radiation will make it extremely difficult to track the subsequent waves and the majority of them will get through, this is even if all the decoys accompanying them aren't included. With hundreds of warheads falling, at minimum every single city and military base will be destroyed.

>>2503404
Russia-Ukraine isn't a serious war. It's a forever-war subsidy for the military-industrial complex.
>>2503441
Capitalism is stabilized by destruction and destabilized by creation. It's very counterintuitive. American capitalists "win" if both America and its enemies become hellholes. It's like cancer. Cancer + cancer is just cancer. Cancer + health is cancer. Nazi + Nazi is just Nazi.

>>2503381
Like the Nazis, the U.S would get a shitload of people killed and then ultimately lose. I mean if we want to crash our civilization in the style of a guy on PCP holding off his compound against the ATF. I guess it'll be fun for future generations to read about and we can be the generic bad guys for the next 80 years in every movie and video game. If even the U.S won ww3 there ain't going to be much left.

China vs. USA is even faker than Democrats vs. Republicans.

>>2504817
thats one of the most stupidly wrong statement I have ever read



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Activists say Israeli navy has begun intercepting a Gaza-bound aid flotilla
Greg Stoker, an American veteran aboard one of the boats in the flotilla, said around a dozen naval vessels with their transponders off had approached it. “They are currently hailing our vessels, telling us to turn off our engines and await further instructions or our boats will be seized and we will face the consequences,” he said in a shaky video while wearing a red life jacket.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-flotilla-activists-5c9c5e9baa4fc893a0f6e6eef69b280c

Dockworkers in Genoa and Livorno block Israeli arms shipment, as mass protests denounce genocide in Gaza
More than 25,000 people, according to police estimates, and many more, according to organizers, flooded the streets of Genoa on Saturday evening in support of the Global Sumud Flotilla, demanding the opening of humanitarian corridors into Gaza, an end to arms shipments to Israel and an immediate halt to the genocide. The march, which began outside the headquarters of Music for Peace, the NGO coordinating the flotilla’s mission, quickly took on an explosive character.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/10/01/ltqa-o01.html

Le Pen’s party lands top jobs in French parliament with assist from Macron’s allies
Over the summer, Together for the Republic, the largest parliamentary group supporting Macron, reversed its previous stance on the far right’s exclusion, arguing that the firewall had led to the disproportionate representation of left-wing groups. Yaël Braun-Pivet, the Macron-allied president of the National Assembly, endorsed the far right’s return in a clip posted on social media.
https://www.politico.eu/article/national-rally-france-parliament-marine-le-pen-sebastien-chenu-helene-laporte/
https://archive.ph/8mQCm

French military boards Russia-linked oil tanker suPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Harvard study exposes deadly toll of private equity hospitals
Research led by Dr. Zirui Song of Harvard Medical School published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, September 2025, has delivered one of the clearest warnings yet about the dangers of private equity in American hospitals. The study demonstrates in no uncertain terms that when hospitals fall under the control of private equity firms, the pursuit of profit takes precedence over patient care, leading to deadly consequences in the most critical areas of medicine—the emergency departments and intensive care units of US hospitals.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/29/wiwn-s29.html

Labor unions sue OMB, OPM for ‘unlawful’ threats of mass layoffs ahead of shutdown
The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California by the American Federation of Government Employees and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The unions are asking a judge to declare the layoff threats illegal and to invalidate any actions the administration takes to conduct layoffs during the shutdown.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/30/labor-unions-sue-omb-opm-00589170
https://archive.ph/DmlQt

White House puts on hold $18 billion in funding for New York City rail tunnel and subway projects
President Donald Trump's administration said Wednesday it was putting a hold on roughly $18 billion to fund a new rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River between New York City and New Jersey and an extension of the city's Second Avenue subway because of the government shutdown. The White House budget director, Russ Vought, said on a post on X that the step was taken due to the Republican administration's belief the money was based on unconstitutional diversity, equity and inclusion principles.
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What’s stopping China from guarding the flotilla?

PFLP Declares, “We Will Remain Loyal to the Blood of the Martyrs and Committed to the Resistance”
On the first anniversary of the martyrdom of its Political Bureau member Nidal Abd al-Aal and his comrades Imad and Abd al-Rahman, the PFLP declares: “We will remain loyal to the blood of the martyrs and committed to the resistance until liberation and return. There is no fear for the resistance, and Gaza will remain the day after… The will of the people is steadfast against all attempts at liquidation.” The leaders were assassinated on September 30th, 2024 in Beirut. “Their blood has become a testament to the great truth: that martyrdom is a deeper presence in the collective conscience of our people and our nation, and that the martyr has become an idea that never fades, a legacy that flows through the veins of the resistance, becoming a seed that sprouts a thousand fighters, and a resounding voice that awakens an entire nation.”
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/21641/

Here to fight, here to stay: Imperial Typewriters strike
Three years ago in September 2022, Leicester made national headlines for communal clashes between Asians, initiated by a 200 strong march of Hindutva inspired fascists. The march and clashes took place in the shadow of the Imperial Typewriter building, which still stands today on East Park Road. The cruel irony of the act was that 50 years ago, this very area was the epicentre of one of the largest anti-racist strikes to rock Britain, led by Asians together.
https://communist.red/here-to-fight-here-to-stay-imperial-typewriters-strike/

Trump’s 20-Point Gaza Plan: A Rubber Stamp of Legitimacy on Israel’s Subjugation of Palestine
Three weeks after Israel attempted to assassinate Hamas’s lead negotiators in a series of airstrikes on the group’s offices in Doha, Qatar, President Donald Trump hailed the public announcement of his 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza as “potentially one of the great days ever in civilization.” The framework was drafted in coordination with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s top adviser, Ron Dermer, and spearheaded by Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law, Jared KushPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Why is the pope supporting Hamas’ surrender?



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https://ctwgwebsite.github.io/blog/2025/HA_Fragments_1946/

Just sharing here that two unpublished fragments of writings from Adrono and Horkheimer, titled “On The Relation Between Critical Intellectuals, the Proletariat, and the Communist Party” and "The Curse of Writing Today” has been translated and put online by good people at Critical Theory Working Group.
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>>2504231
>its all so trccnsome

>To view the communist revolution as the promenade of the red army through the Western countries still has at least the aura of high treason for the proletarian masses of Europe and Asia; for the oppressed Russian people, such a conception is nothing but Kadavergehorsam.10 The communist parties outside [Russia] are fifth columns and, of course, immediately remind every revolutionary impulse within Russia that it must be unpatriotic. In turn, this rebounds on western communism, which, through the concept of such narrow-minded patriotism, shares an understanding with the reactionaries of each respective country and simply writes a different name into the same schema of categories. This schematism is part of the transformation of communism into a system of delusion [Wahnsystem]. The phenomenon is not primarily psychological, but objective in origin, arising from the separation of communism from theory and its pragmatic identification with Russia.

Adorno and Horkheimer were pro-imperialist traitors.

>>2504245
All i am getting here is TOTAL STALINOID DEATH

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