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Obviously it is ideal to eliminate money altogether but I don't think it will be feasible to not have any kind of measure of consumption/signifier of labour in the short term, so what do you think the maximum amount of wage inequality allowable between the highest and lowest paid labour is? 0%? 20%? 200%? 2000%? I honestly think we should aim for 0% but it might not be feasible to not offer people any financial incentive at all to push themselves.
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>>2415163
if shit goes down it will not go down that way, arguing against ignorants

>>2416508
>Assuming we model salaries democratically like that, isn't it possible the less well paid workers will just vote to not pay that much more to the most 'valuable' workers which might lead to the most 'valuable' work that is highly specialised not getting done?
Not for the idea in the last paragraph. The idea there is not that anybody votes on salary, rather people are asked what they would buy from their income at different levels or we try to infer that information indirectly by statistical methods. From that demand, we determine the demand-driven salaries, and given these salaries, we guess demand and so on. I suspect that starting such a simulation from different income distributions, we end with a smaller number of stable distributions, but more than just one, and then we can pick from these according to some egalitarian goal.

>>2415163
Yes, the doctor can't do shit without the janitor. Maybe years of studying should somehow get paid to equalize doctor with janitor.

>>2417661
the janitor is replaceable; the doctor isnt
>paid the same
you are not supposed to go into janitorial work as a life-long career choice. its for unskilled workers (i.e. people who are supposed to learn skills later in life).

>>2415121
I think 3-6x is usual and reasonable if you can also hit the 3-5x minimum range from experience tenure seniority alone etc you could look up countries for something like the highest paid worker not making more than whatever amount. if food housing and medical are guaranteed by the state no inheritance and you dont have billionaire leeches than having that kind of spread for luxuries or vacation sounds good to me. so you could have jannies and burger flippers start out at $10 an hour and doctors and engineers starting at $30 but senior burger coordinators could easily make $50



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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1941v01/d99

>In addition, the Soviet Government compelled Finland, inter alia, to construct a continuation, linking up with the Finnish railways, of a railway laid from the Murmansk railway to the Finnish frontier to provide the Soviet Union with a convenient access to Northern Finland and onward to the Atlantic. The peace terms also included the occupation of Hango, which was to serve the Soviet Union as a naval base, but where, immediately after the conclusion of peace, a strong garrison with tanks [and] other equipment was stationed.

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From Hango air attacks are still being launched on the cities and civilian population of southern Finland. Hardly had the peace of Moscow been concluded, before the Soviet Union presented new unjustified demands, inter alia compelling Finland to permit transit traffic on her railways to Cape Hango at the rate of two pairs of Russian trains per day. The Finnish authorities had not the right to inspect these trains. The Soviet Union also interfered in an unscrupulous fashion with Finnish domestic affairs and attempted to organize street demonstrations. The Soviet Union established a Legation in Helsinki with a staff of 150 persons, a large proportion of whom were active in purely espionage work. The Soviet Union forbade the fortification of the Aaland Islands,67 and compelled Finland to submit to the opening in a city68 in these islands of a consular office with a staff of 40 persons. A corresponding consular office was founded for purposes of espionage also in Petsamo.

Also, poor little Finland was merely defending itself:

>The character of Finand’s struggle is not altered by the circumstances that, on the grounds of her natural views of her own security, Finland is striving to render innocuous and to occupy the enemy’s offensive positions also beyond the 1939 frontier. Precisely the same considerations would have made it urgently necessary for Finland, in the interests of the effectivity of her defense, to undertake such measures already in 1939–40 during the first phase of the war, if only her strength had then been equal to the task.


>The population of the areas beyond the 1939 frontier now occupied by Finnish troops, areas which ha
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As for my point of view on the outbreak of the "winter war", I have expressed it hundreds of times, and I will not be lazy to remind you: in the autumn, when negotiations were still underway in Moscow between Finland and Russia, the Finns fully mobilized their armed forces. The Finns drove an unusually large percentage of the population into the trenches, in addition, hundreds of thousands of people were displaced from the alleged war zone. There is a huge mass of evacuees inside the country (by Finnish standards), the country's main industry, woodworking, has actually stopped because all the men are in the trenches, and supplies from abroad are not coming because there is no war.

The "Mining incident" was critically important: The Soviet Union could still negotiate for a month, two, three, and Finland, if the war had not happened, would have been forced to demobilize the army.

And here's the luck: the "Mining incident" happened, the war began, and Western aid went.

>The Finns fully mobilized their armed forces.
And? What were they supposed to do? sit there with their thumb up their asses and make no preperations for the upcoming invasion?

Never trust anti soviet arguments, especially from finns, baltcucks or ukroids. Simple as



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What is going to happen next? How bad is it going to get? What is the regimes next move? Do they intend to maintain the current electoral system?

Will they take unprecedented steps to consolidate power before the next election?

Who will they jail, deport. What if they like, declared war on a number of coastal cities. Say their local governments are infiltrated by an FTO. Exlude their populations from voting, Invade. Impose martial law…

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>>2419355
Like no one gives a fuck anymore. Are you serious?

I don't follow.

Democrats will win the Midterms by a landslide and prevent Trump from going further.

>>2419369
>Democrats will win the Midterms by a landslide and prevent Trump from going further.
Democrats are polling in their lowest ratings ever. I don't think the Dems will even be a thing in about a decade.



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Uruguayan public sector unions call nationwide strike over inadequate wage proposal
Uruguay’s Confederation of State Employees' Organizations (COFE) announced a 24-hour nationwide strike on August 12, rejecting the government’s proposed wage adjustment for public sector workers. The decision was unanimously approved during a national assembly attended by over 35 unions. In an official statement, COFE described the government’s offer as “absolutely insufficient,” arguing it lacks any real wage growth, fails to address the lowest-paid workers, and does not guarantee the current purchasing power of salaries.
https://en.mercopress.com/2025/08/05/uruguayan-public-sector-unions-call-nationwide-strike-over-inadequate-wage-proposal

Evo Morales Backs Null Vote in Bolivia
On Sunday, Former Bolivian President Evo Morales (2006–2019) said that the proposal to cast null votes in the upcoming Aug. 17 election is gaining momentum amid the possibility he may not be a candidate. … Morales hopes his disqualification as a presidential candidate is “temporary” and emphasized that he will not leave the country, adding, “Those who have stolen are already packing their bags.” The Leftist leader also stated that if he is arrested, he hopes President Luis Arce “doesn’t kill” him. Morales pointed out that “the right wing” is attempting to return to power and urged his followers to remember that “only through union struggle did we defeat the empire.”
https://www.telesurenglish.net/evo-morales-backs-null-vote-in-bolivia/

32 bodies found in clandestine graves in central Mexico
The Guanajuato state prosecutor’s office said via X Monday that the bodies were found in clandestine graves on the property in the community of La Calera on Irapuato’s north side, about 320 kilometers (200 miles) northwest of Mexico City. Forensic teams had working at the site since July 30, prosecutors said. Authorities were working to identify the remaining bodies.
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More than 40 arrested at protest against Gaza war at Trump hotel in New York
The protest, organized by IfNotNow, a Jewish-American anti-occupation group, had begun earlier in the evening at Columbus Circle. Hundreds gathered under the banner “Trump: Jews Say No More” to demand an end to the war in Gaza and that the Trump administration pressure Israel to allow greater humanitarian aid to enter into territory, as health officials there continue to report deaths from starvation and malnutrition.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/04/gaza-protest-trump-hotel-new-york

Prosecutor who negotiated Epstein's sweetheart deal left off subpoena list
House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) announced Tuesday that he had issued subpoenas to a number of prominent figures to appear for depositions in the following weeks and months. Those individuals included former President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former FBI directors James Comey and Robert Mueller. A House panel last month approved a motion by Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) to direct Comer to subpoena those individuals. Acosta wasn't among those subpoenaed, which raised eyebrows from reporters and followers of the Epstein probe, given Acosta's role in negotiating the deal at the heart of the scandal.
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/05/jeffrey-epstein-files-alex-acosta-subpoena
https://archive.ph/Q91JD

New York Post to launch a version of the rightwing tabloid in California in 2026
According to New York Post Media Group – a News Corp subsidiary and home of New York’s biggest tabloid, as well as Page Six and Decider – the California Post will look and feel similar to its New York counterpart, delivering reporting, sports coverage and celebrity gossip from a California perspective.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/aug/04/new-york-post-california-murdoch

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CP of Greece, What should be the perspective of the anti-war and anti-imperialist movement?
Some argue that the war can be stopped or prevented from escalating. For example, Israel may back down under pressure from international solidarity or from actions such as boycotting Israeli products and companies. The truth is that, however strong and massive it may be, a protest movement against war cannot prevent it. It is utopian to believe that “the powerful” can back down under popular pressure, or that the EU, for example, can be pressured into defending Palestine. This notion ignores and underestimates the true nature of imperialist war: it is a war backed by the enormous interests of capitalist enterprises and bourgeois states; behind it lies a life-or-death struggle for a foothold within the imperialist system, for the division of territories and spheres of influence. This notion harbours illusions and delusions about the ability of bourgeois institutions and trans-state imperialist alliances to become “pro-peace” under “popular pressure”. It causes the anti-war movement against war to pursue various temporary peace agreements mediated by imperialists, and turns it into a supporter of various temporary and fragile truces. In other words, while imperialist war is in full swing, is escalating and becoming more widespread, and the workers' and popular movements must prepare for this, positions such as the above lead to complacency. This leaves the people’s struggle vulnerable to propaganda calling for temporary compromises with a gun held to the peoples’ head. Although there is potential to broaden the confrontation and challenge the dominant policy, this notion essentially neutralizes radicalization and perpetuates the utopic idea that the hawks of war can become doves of peace.
http://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-What-should-be-the-perspective-of-the-anti-war-and-anti-imperialist-movement/

Corbyn’s New Party and the Socialist Left
This new formation is part of an international trend: an upsurge in neo-reformist parties and figures. Ten years ago, when parties like Syriza in Greece and Podemos in Spain represented the hopes of a generation battered by the global economic crisis, Corbyn channeled that same yPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Turkish parliamentary commission holds first meeting over Ankara-PKK talks
Reformism or complete utter defeat?
Also TYBNA



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Today, former President Jair Bolsonaro was unexpectedly taken into custody amid widespread astonishment. Security forces escorted him into a high‑security facility, where he is now expected to remain pending legal proceedings. A hush fell over Brazil’s capital as reporters surrounded the vehicle, cameras flashing. Supporters and critics alike gathered at the courthouse, sentiment sharply divided. Authorities have remained tight‑lipped about charges, though speculation swirls regarding alleged abuses of power. In a brief televised statement, Bolsonaro insisted on his innocence, calling the arrest politically motivated. Meanwhile, legal experts emphasized that due process must prevail. As the nation absorbs this dramatic development, citizens brace for what could be a historic trial, one that may reshape Brazil’s political landscape.
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On August 4th 2025 Jair Bolsonaro, President of Brazil and a friend, was jailed. My friend Jair was f*cking jailed.

>>2417540
Brazilians never got over the end of the monarchy, they still think the president is like the emperor who had near absolute power.

lets goooo brasil!!!! <3

>>2418091
post timestamped proofs that you are rebel

>>2417549
He was already hard on Bolsonaro even before the coup attempt, there's a reason they targeted him in the first place.



 

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>>2417078
>it just doesn't make sense when rus outguns ukr between 5:1 and 15:1 depending on the front
RUSI reported some fronts have 25% the manpower they should, you wonder the average.

>>2416226
yeah it kinda weird how I can't really hate him

Pro-Ukrainian spectators will buy claims of a 14:1 ratio in favour of Ukraine at face value because they’ve already psychologically prepared themselves for Ukraine’s defeat and the unavoidable revelation that Ukrainians were just being used as cannon fodder by NATO, literally to the last Ukrainian possible.


Because then all of their support for the exploitation of Ukrainians is something that they’re also victims of because they were lied to, of course they wouldn’t have so brazenly told ziggers to cope and seethe if they’d not been LIED to by Kiev and western intel agencies the entire time and being told that ackshually Ukraine is committing near genocidal rates of death for the Russian military.

>>2417801
>Kiev

Until you get it, its Kyiv pal, sorry not sorry.

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Why are Jews classified as Semites when they're clearly just a Slavic death cult that wears weird hats, mutilate baby penises and is completely foreign to the Middle East? In fact they're a complete anathema to Middle Eastern peoples as they're currently commiting genocide and settler colonization of their lands

If anything Jews are the biggest antisemites of this world
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>>2417888
1. Such a waste of trips!
2. 'I' don't care about 'your' feelings. And 'this' is the only fact here.

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Jews aren’t Slavs, if anything Slavs are the descendants of the original Semites. It’s generally agreed upon by most serious Biblical scholars that Jews are either the descendants of Cain directly or indirectly through Esau

By the way… Lot of shitty replies and I don't want to sift through them all. I'll get straight to the point.
The semite thing came up like in the nineteenth century. Basically, the most narcissistic ethno-religious group currently existing was labelled as "semites" because their - supposed - ancestors thousands of years before spoke a semitic language. Btw, educate yourselves about semitic languages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages
Yeah, I know, wikipaedo is not that great, but still, this article seems to be decent and the introduction alone, if you just give it five minutes to read, would clarify what actually semite is supposed to mean.
Basically, semite is from Sem, one of the sons of Noah or someone like that in the Bible. Noah - or whoever that was - also had two other sons: Yafet and Ham.
Sem/Shem is thought of as the ancestors of "semite", i.e. middle-eastern speakers of semitic languages.
Yafet is the ancestor of crackers, who anyway got to get called "Caucasians" for some stupid and disproven theory that all crackers came out of the Caucasus - hence why Burgers always talk about "Caucasian male, or female or whoever".
Ham/Kham/Cham is the ancestor of uyghur – s. To this day, some linguists use the name "Semito-Hamitic" for the hypothesized larger language family comprising both Semitic and various North African languages (Berber, Ancient Egyptian and its modern version of Coptic, various languages in the Horn of Africa that can't be grouped with Semitic). That macro-family is more commonly called "Afro-Asiatic".

>>2417313
>Why are Jews classified as Semites
it isnt a "classification", hitler popularized the term "semites" as a euphemism for jews

>>2417940 (me)
or rather it is a "classification" but the term gained popularity as a dog whistle during the third reich



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>news articles complaining that the stock market is crashing on tariffs despite new peaks almost every day in the last week

capitalism is so stupid

Maybe they're only considering American stocks

Does any one know how to cause a business's market shares to drop drastically or am i just being utopian? I hate this big company and i want its stocks to tank.

>>2415933
Depends on the buisness, but yeah if you're in an important position logistically speaking you have sabatage options.

>>2415987

they will still only go up. Remember, they just print more money to save themselves.



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How would this work? Would all kids be raised in boarding schools from birth by federally employed nannies? Would the kids be able to visit their parents?
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>>2393274
This is why all breeders are scum. ABAB - All Breeders Are Bastards. Total Breeder Death. Total Cishetoid Death. Total Crotchdemon Death.
>>2392511
Based. Family, faith and fatherland are shitty and fascist concepts only delusional incel Ziggabros believe in.

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>>2393644
r/antinatalism is down the hall and to the left.

So many people here say kids will be raised by the whole community, I doubt it will work, at least from the Communist angle; I've met so many Leftists and Communists (as in "everyone more radical than a Socdem") who are disgusted by straight people and everything that has to do with them, hate children or are misanthropic in general (like how this anon says >>2337653), I doubt your "commune raises kids collectively" will work out. How many of you are actually going to babysit or look after the older kids or supervise teenagers?

>>2303561
Look at anthropology studies on hunter-gatherers and you'll know the answer.




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Its fucking over WW3 is about to start.



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Russia should return Salla tho.

Nothing ever happens

I actually fucking hate the mods
I am away and mucho occupado till monday but next week(end)
hold on to your hats
you fucks

>>2416322
yeah that's mee

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