[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internet about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)
What is 6 - 2?

Check out our new store at shop.leftypol.org!

| Catalog | Home
|

File: 1764690540500.jpeg (774.67 KB, 1170x2269, IMG_9654.jpeg)

 

Is it impossible to be unbiased? Or is it rather that a prevalence of biased sources makes it difficult to arrive at the truth?

If we were to say that it is impossible to be unbiased, then how do you arrive at objective truth? Is it to be self-aware and honest about these biases and then to adjust? Doesn‘t this necessitate knowledge about objective truth beforehand to be able to make such an adjustment? And wouldn‘t that be a contradiction to the initial claim that it is impossible to be unbiased?
9 posts and 2 image replies omitted.

>>2583889
> obviously not
Then we’re in agreement. You overcome your biases in service of what you consider “true” which many people already do including people who don’t believe it’s possible to completely get rid of all biases.
> submitting to them
OK, but you already established you submit to the idea of an “objective truth” politically.

>>2581403
This is the most thought provoking philosophical post I've seen on any chan in over a decade. I think the answer to this lies in the discernment of every contribution to the question, and I only have a metaphysical one. Each of us has a different starting point, so we are prone to bias. Orientation provides context which aids navigation but its expression is often lost in translation, so objectivity lies in careful evaluation of circumstance, which itself is subject to bias. Objective truth in this case is discernment of lived experience. Some claim to know this from their understanding of God, but from my perspective these don't appear to understand from experience aside from academic endeavors. I say objective truth can always be sought but never fully possessed, and seeking it can help overcome various cognitive biases, but nobody can it hold all within themselves. How's that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmA705ULjc

>>2581403
IMO objective truth does exist but reality is so insanely complex that humans cannot fully grasp it. We just can't perceive or measure all of it. We can only get closer and closer to the truth. So accounting for biases and shortcomings in perception requires endless iteration and revision.

>>2583922
You must've missed out the time a 420Chan user recorded his own phone with the front camera without using a mirror, the phone saw itself.
https://leftypol.org//siberia/res/627790.html#q692312

>>2584132
Haha. Yeah I missed it,



File: 1764120396767.jpg (8.03 KB, 310x162, images.jpg)

 

The biggest rebutal I see in the eyes of the average person to "socialism" and "communism" is that it's utopic, that it relies on bad assumptions, that it doesn't work in reality etc. In essence, that we're advocating for something that can't be and that we have no alternative to capitalism.
And, to that effect, what are we even advocating for ? It appears to me that we have a bunch of different movements with many different goals that don't actually ressemble one another. Yet, despite this, very few of these movements have actual "models", it just seems like they want to reform or do a revolution for the sake of action rather than purpose.
Shouldn't we concentrate on clear objectives and goals before having all this talk about how marxism-leninism-maoism-gonzalo thought is superior to cybernetic-trotskism-councilism in achieving [we run into the problem here]?

>inb4 abolition of private property, abolition of capitalism, abolition of alienation

We can't actually base our objectives around these vagues goals though, or at least not at the current time and at the forefront. Abolition of private property doesn't mean anything if there's no framework to offer an alternative or to replace it. Marx laid us many goals but, given that he didn't specify what or how, shouldn't it be up to us to conceptualize the type of system which we want in accordance with the relevant theories he proposed.

Apart from small intellectuals scattered everywhere (Cockshott, Schweickart etc), there seems to be an evident lack of clear model that actually adresses the critique of marx's ambitions and dismisses its apparent utopianism.
52 posts and 12 image replies omitted.

>>2580651
They don't though. They propose many reforms but they fundamentally don't have a way to coordinate labor whilst simultaneously negating private property.

>>2580588
>What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour
That's a bit like parecon. Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services

>>2581203
>Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
>I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services
Yeah, of course, it would be impossible to supplant the bulk of production instantaneously. But it is something that could as you say progressively supplant services, and work in conjunction with state seizure. As an alternative economic model it does have possibilities, and could constitute the slow withering of state control of industry.
Something I haven't seen proposed from people purely interested in taking control of the political apparatus. Both are required.

File: 1764691234426.jpeg (49.03 KB, 500x532, IMG_1437.jpeg)

>>2581119
This nonsense is playing out with ubi and job loss due soyence and technology

>>2573868
A society where classes have been smashef, the state been demolished and the money burned, where the workers manage the means of production and where resources are allocated through central planning from one's abilities according to one's needs.

File: 1764902827799.jpeg (372.41 KB, 2751x1378, IMG_0206.jpeg)

>>2573868
This thread is a great place to repost my very relevant Effort post about the “Aesthetics of Communism” from my thread of the same title https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2545468.html , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

This Effort Post will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead completely destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



File: 1752196320744.png (2.07 MB, 2224x1668, IMG_0267.png)

 

THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM

As a supporter of the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, I obviously realize that the Democrats are a Controlled Opposition Party who exist to keep the Workers and Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of Naw Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, inside the U$ corralled and controlled, while the dominant ruling Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans transform the U$ into a Full-Blown Fascist Police State, which combined with the fact that the U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American population like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police, as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists as stipulated by Lenin’s principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR, which will happen once World War III escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted, with the former U$ Balkanized into a New African SSR that includes the Black/New Afrikan majority counties of the Black Belt, a Hispano-American SFSR that includes the Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo majority counties in the U$ Southwest, along with the rest of the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas, while the White Settler majority regions in the rest of the former U$ becomes part of the Anglo-American SFSR, which also includes the English-speaking provinces of Canada, as Quebec will become its own SSR, with all the Native American reservations becoming ASSRs) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

However, as I have stated many timPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
73 posts and 9 image replies omitted.

>>2546933
I was going to call satire until you actually explained the King Lear thing in a way that makes too much sense to be a joke

>>2525627
>“Tor” is a CIA/NSA/FBI Honeypot created by U$ Naval Intelligence, so I don’t think I need to say anymore about the merits of viewing “Tor” as some kind of “Anonymous” Internet, when in reality their are ZERO websites on the Internet that are not fully accessible to Glowies because the entire Internet itself emerged out of the U$ Military ARPANET project
LOW-ORBIT TRUTH RAY

Bump, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2547121
Thanks for the compliment Comrade, anyone who reads King Lear against the grain realizes that it has a much deeper meaning than just being a parable about a crazy old King attempting to divide his Kingdom between his three daughters, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2547122
Thanks for the compliment Comrade, it is really quite absurd that the whole ARPENET thing has not clued in more people about who really controls the entire Internet, and it is even more asinine that these same people who have not figured out who runs the Internet, believe that the Naval Intelligence Honeytrap for dummies known as “Tor”, is “Anonymous” in any way, shape, or form, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

File: 1764461480456-0.jpeg (371.83 KB, 2751x1379, IMG_0204.jpeg)

File: 1764461480456-1.png (811.42 KB, 2208x1242, IMG_0457.png)

File: 1764461480456-2.jpeg (427.62 KB, 1790x1786, IMG_0240.jpeg)

I have decided to Bump my Thread about the “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform” with a related In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis Effort Post, detailing the two Shining Paths to Communism, the Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism and the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

The Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism operates under the assumption that their will be a total Fascist takeover of the Imperial Core in which Bourgeois Liberal Democracy is permanently suspended that will lead to an inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalating into a Global Nuclear War that will completely destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (In both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, where Maoist PPW is currently viable, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW will not be viable until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended with these events being connected and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first Map I posted, the second Map I posted specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, while the third Image I posted shows the version of the Two-State Solution to the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict implemented in the future Global USSR with the Zionist State overthrown by a Maoist PPW and replaced by a Jewish SSR created inside the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land swaps that are very similar to the two Maps in the third Image I posted, while the West Bank and Gaza are placed in the Arab SFSR that will include all the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa as shown in both my Map of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in the first Image I posted and the second Image I posted that specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, and the 1:1 Land swaps between the Jewish SSR and Arab SFSR will mean that Arab villages in the “Triangle” region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_(Israel) on the Jewish side of the 1967 borders will be exchanged for Jewish Settlements on the Arab side of the 1967 borders that are inside the “Seam Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Would any of my fellow Comrades like to provide an In-depth Intellectual critique of the two Shining Paths to Communism presented in my Dialectical Materialist Effort post at >>2578310 , 🤔?



File: 1764547563534.png (140.35 KB, 380x356, rigby.png)

 

Starting a *new* type of party. One where nothing but the working class programme is advanced, one independent of the bourgeoisie. I call this party the "Communist Party".

Can one imagine, a group with such a clear and uncompromising position?
1 post omitted.

Nah bro first we gotta defend our nation from the imperialists

nd we have to deal with those pesky ethnic and religious minorities who are a threat to our nation. The imperialists are using them as a fifth column. You are anti communist if you disagree with this


File: 1764900214400.jpeg (44.73 KB, 461x663, images.jpeg)


File: 1764900419800.png (85.12 KB, 252x200, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2579535
> I call this party the "Communist Party".
We're calling it "Your Party", retard, keep up!!



 

Poland’s Communist Party declared unlawful by constitutional court
Today the Constitutional Tribunal of Poland issued a ruling declaring the Communist Party of Poland (KPP) unconstitutional and illegal, ordering its removal from the register of political parties. The Tribunal’s decision follows a formal petition by the ultra-conservative Polish President Karol Nawrocki and finds that the aims and activities of the party violate the national constitution. The ruling effectively criminalizes the legitimate political activity of an established communist formation.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/12/alert-polands-constitutional-court-bans-communist-party-democracy-under-attack.html

Irish authorities asked to investigate Microsoft over alleged unlawful data processing by IDF
The ICCL alleges that the processing of the personal data “facilitated war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide by Israeli military”. Microsoft’s European headquarters are located in Ireland. Joe O’Brien, the executive director of ICCL, said: “Microsoft’s technology has put millions of Palestinians in danger. These are not abstract data-protection failures.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/04/irish-authorities-asked-to-investigate-microsoft-over-alleged-unlawful-data-processing-by-idf

Reform UK receive record-breaking £9m donation from crypto boss
Cryptocurrency speculator Christopher Harborne, resident in Thailand, handed Mr Farage a £9 million donation, the largest ever political gift by a living person. Outrage greeted the news, which can only turbo-charge the drive on power by Reform, already leading in the opinion polls. And it comes as the party is mired in racism rows on multiple fronts, underlining its threat to democracy.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/reform-uk-receive-record-breaking-ps9m-donation-crypto-boss

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

File: 1764897196289.png (394.62 KB, 1000x584, ClipboardImage.png)

Gaza militia chief Yasser Abu Shabab 'killed in Rafah shooting'
Channel 14 reported that Abu Shabab was killed under unclear circumstances, while Israel's Army Radio described the incident as an assassination carried out by armed men east of Rafah. Ynet cited Israeli security assessments indicating that Abu Shabab was killed. Members of his militia told the outlet that a confrontation between several families escalated into gunfire, during which one participant allegedly opened fire at him.
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-militia-chief-yasser-abu-shabab-killed-rafah-shooting

Israel to build wall deep inside West Bank that ‘accelerates annexation’
The planned barrier, reported by Israeli newspaper Haaretz on Monday, will run for 22km in the northern Jordan Valley. It will sit at least 12km west of the Jordanian border. As with the existing West Bank barrier, the new wall will sever links between Palestinian communities and cut farming and herding families off from their land. It will also encircle the herding community of Khirbet Yarza in a closed loop, isolating around 70 residents who depend on several thousand sheep.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-build-wall-deep-inside-west-bank-accelerates-annexation

Egypt rejects Israeli decision to open Rafah for exit only, insists it would only accept 'two-way' opening
Citing an Egyptian official, the service stated that any agreement to open the crossing will cover both entry and exit, in line with US President Donald Trump's plan for humanitarian and political arrangements following the ceasefire. Cairo reaffirmed its adherence to the plan and UN Security Council Resolution 2803, including the right of return for Palestinians and maintaining two-way operations at the crossing.
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-egypt-rejects-israeli-decision-open-rafah-exit-only

Election results withheld after “staged” coup in Guinea-Bissau; opposition cPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

US military kills four in latest strike on boat in the Caribbean
The United States military has conducted another deadly strike on an alleged drug smuggling boat in the Caribbean, killing four, according to the Pentagon. The attack on Thursday comes as the administration of US President Donald Trump has faced renewed scrutiny over the strikes after it was revealed that a targeted boat had been struck twice during a September 2 attack.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/5/us-military-kills-four-in-latest-strike-on-boat-in-the-caribbean
https://archive.ph/2BtZj

New York City officers won’t face charges in fatal shooting of 19-year-old man
The report also said that the reasonableness of the fear the officers, Salvatore Alongi and Matthew Cianfrocco, had when Rozario came at them with the scissors could not be disproven beyond a reasonable doubt. Both officers, however, still face an internal discipline trial on excessive force allegations by the city’s Civilian Complaint Review Board, as well as a lawsuit by Rozario’s family.
https://apnews.com/article/nyc-police-shooting-mental-health-de2c363c9024fd3cb32fd33a07f9e7ea

Trump pardons entertainment exec indicted by his own justice department
Leiweke, who co-founded Oak View Group, was indicted in July for what federal prosecutors alleged was his role in “orchestrating a conspiracy to rig the bidding process for an arena at a public university in Austin, Texas”. Leiweke had pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy to restrict trade and was due to stand trial next year.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/03/trump-pardons-tim-leiweke

Florida launches operation to arrest more parents and guardians of unaccompanied migrant children
The measure means that local law enforcement will join Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in monitoring homes that have taPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tack grundade nyhetsanon

Trump’s Air Blockade and Threats Against Venezuela Require a United Anti-Imperialist Response
Donald Trump’s neocolonialist offensive against Venezuela has escalated sharply. He “decreed” the “total closure” of Venezuelan airspace, announcing “imminent attacks on the territory,” and set ultimatums for the Venezuelan government to yield to Washington’s demands. Trump is intensifying his campaign of threats and “maximum pressure” to bring about regime change in Venezuela. This would be favorable to the interests of U.S. imperialism in its rivalry with the “revisionist” powers challenging the unipolar world order led by the United States after the end of the Cold War. As an anti-capitalist socialist current that opposes the the Maduro–Venezuelan Armed Forces government from the left, we once again call for a firm repudiation of this new escalation of imperial and colonial aggression, just as we have consistently denounced and rejected every act of imperialist intervention against the country. Trump’s ambitions must be defeated; the current imperialist offensive must fail. Its aims are to brutally deepen Venezuela’s semi-colonial condition, subordinating the country’s political regime to the dictates of the White House.
https://www.leftvoice.org/trumps-air-blockade-and-threats-against-venezuela-require-a-united-anti-imperialist-response/

Ukraine Faces an Imperial Carve-Up
On November 21, Ukrainians found themselves staring at a peace proposal that demanded near-immediate acceptance. The leaked twenty-eight-point peace plan, drafted by Donald Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff and Russian official Kirill Dmitriev, reads like a real estate transaction. Russia gets the land, the United States takes its cut, Europe foots the bill, and Ukraine can choose between surrendering now or surrendering later. Under pressure, Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, addressed the nation bluntly: “Loss of dignity or of a key partner. Twenty-eight difficult points or an extraordinarily difficult winter.” Stunned European leaders — taken aback by the initiative’s provisions — scrambled to improvise counterproposals. Amid outrage in the White House over the leak, emergency talks in Geneva produced a revised nineteen-point framework, deferrinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



File: 1764021249592.jpg (14.89 KB, 663x618, '.jpg)

 

im a socdem but a very left one ive read lots of marx and i agree w a lot of the economic ideas and i would be very naice to the communists can i pls stay
22 posts and 6 image replies omitted.

kys

>>2572569
>can i pls stay
Social democracy fails because these radlib nerds who "read lots of Marx" are like children who think they can just rationally convince their parents to quit their jobs so they can live in Disneyland 24/7. Capitalists will simply try to accumulate more bourgeois property ownership to extract more rents, get real

>>2580131
>liberate the capitalists of your nation
liberalism is historically progressive if you live in a feudal system with monarchy who hoard wealth instead of doing the Marx commodity cycle of re-investing to buy new industrial technology and so on. Social democracy for Lenin was revolutionary, but its a joke for the PMC art and culture critic Marxists in Jeffrey Epstein's home New York City

Only if you merge with us when the time comes

you can be anything, a soccdem, fascist, liberal, etc., as long as you call yourself one of the communist-coded terms for such thing
examples includ maoist, leftcom, ultra, anarchist, etc.

>>2583693
>soccdem, fascist, liberal, etc.,
>maoist, leftcom, ultra, anarchist, etc.
what are the precise translations of non-gomunist terms into gomunist ones



 


who cares, communists will just organize around some other name for a while (iskra, rabocheye dyelo, zarya etc)

Their form of communism was imported by the soviet, it wans't a genuine grassroot movement, more like a top down change that many didn't like it or accepted that well, no wonder some people still salty about it

>we have to ban the 300 strong party that's done literally zero illegal actions because communidum scary
poland is more authoritarian than the ruskis lol

>>2582491
>poland is more authoritarian than the ruskis lol
truth nuke
>>2582442
puke nuke



File: 1764689525579-0.png (2.4 MB, 1280x1500, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1764689525579-1.mp4 (3.63 MB, 1138x640, 1764646024217.mp4)

 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<The Lustful Treatler Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
583 posts and 133 image replies omitted.

>>2582959
$25 from blackwater has been deposited into your account

>>2582905
How is that relevant in any shape or form, when one has to look at the kind of relationship that dominates the entire economy
>>2582903
Report racist MAGAtards to ICE

>>2582962
do you really think blackwater is against janet mills? why would they be?

>>2582906
>That doesn't mean it's socialist
so no privatized companies? neoliberalism hasn't put a foothold on its state? good.
Socialism is enshrined in Vietnam's constitution, thus they are looking forward for it.

>>2582965
>blackwater has two approved candidates running for senate in maine
lucky them!



File: 1741977024257-0.jpeg (567.72 KB, 750x503, IMG_7285.jpeg)

File: 1741977024257-1.jpeg (94.97 KB, 480x400, IMG_7283.jpeg)

 

Tomorrow a huge protest will be held in the capital of Serbia, Belgrade, protesting the government’s refusal to accept the demands made by the students, as well as protesting against general incompetence and corruption. From the student to the teacher, worker and pensioner, war veterans and children all around Serbia will gather together in this protest.
Is this really it? Some policemen announced that they won’t be going to work tomorrow and that they have no intention of beating up children. This might be the only chance that the opposition gets to forcefully remove the president from office.
The implications are obvious; a color revolution is in the works. Unlike the protests in Greece, the Serbian protests have no class character. The left is very weak, and the protest attendees range from neonazis to liberals and communists (most likely due to the fact the protests have been organized “apolitically”). The situation in Serbia is very volatile, and the validity of these protests need to be questioned more seriously, since no matter how much they deny it, this reeks of liberal infighting. Only time will tell what the consequences of these past few months will be, and whether this will be another October 5th or just a failed mass movement.
466 posts and 75 image replies omitted.

So nothing really happened regarding the stuff from my previous posts. The hunger strikers have up after two weeks and there was no big Cacilend conformation.
The student movement is still alive but probably the most dead it's been the past year. There is only one faculty which restarted its blockade, the others are operating normally in the new year except that the start of the year was late.
The NIS situation is still unresolved, I am not sure what the SNS government is planning, maybe they're just waiting for Russians to agree to a deal where NIS is sold to a third country. They floated the idea of nationalizing NIS but they have not done that yet. The oil refinery in Pancevo is stopping production because of a lack of oil, which means they're already losing money. If there is no solution in the coming months then the government will have to spend a lot of money on importing finished oil products and subsidizing the cost, or they can not subsidize it and cause an oil crisis in Serbia.

>>2578044

Also don't forget to mention the students had a split with the zbor's due to the more liberal opposition infiltrating them according to them.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRnTjuzACP5/?img_index=1

File: 1764537982442.png (145.7 KB, 498x368, 1763570422741.png)

I feel like you guys need to stop labelling everything as a color revolution

Even if its liberals its still class conflict in nature, and mass disconnect being organized on general strike scales is impressive

>>2579295
The zbors are very dead compared to their peak in early july during the dumpster barricade stuff.

>>2579297
There were 2 calls to general strike but there was no labor organizing behind them so they failed.

Two days ago there were some local elections for some rural areas (only a few tens of thousands of voters total) and SNS won but with much less votes compared to both the last local elections and the last parliamentary elections. Like usual, there were various kinds of election fraud spotted and there was even some fighting in Mionica in a tavern close to one of the poll stations (https://x.com/agrifblokira/status/1995150996067307853).

>>2581761
Forgot to mention the most important thing about those local elections. If SNS's loss of votes is proportional to the rest of Serbia then they'd lose parliamentary elections if they were held now.



File: 1764786257424.png (30.45 KB, 255x205, ClipboardImage.png)

 

Why right wing and "white" nationalist are so hypocrite? Some of them are not even white but mixed which is contradicts with white nationalism, some of sleep or had hedonistic lifestyle and now they are "Christ pilled" or call themselves a "white nationalistT" (funny enought when I ask them to define white they call it "european" but cant specify, some of them hate hitler also) Why they think having hedonistic lyfestyle and stereotypes bout women is ok, but being gay is not ok. There is full of condradiction, that why right wing ideologies split into smaller factions, more specific. There is still smart people in right wing, but they dont call themselves "right or left wing" they call themselves "third positionist" or "deep ideological philosophical stuff". Its funny how they hate left wing, but when I talk to left wing they are smarter than right wing(sorry for my ESL)
2 posts omitted.

>Why right wing and "white" nationalist are so hypocrite? Some of them are not even white but mixed
Whiteness is a moving target. Many groups who used to not be considered "white" are now considered "white." So called "White" supremacism has to let "new" people in to stay relevant, which is why it is more open to hispanics, asians arabs, italians, and sometimes even jews, etc. than it used to be. At the end of the day, only the darkest sub saharan africans and aboriginal australians are probably permanently excluded from "white" supremacist politics.
>which is contradicts with white nationalism, some of sleep or had hedonistic lifestyle and now they are "Christ pilled"
Religious affiliation is often opportunistic. Religious institutions are powerful forces of reaction, so pretending to be "born again" in order to leverage their power is common. Opportunism is inherently hypocritical, and double standards are essential to wielding power. The sovereign decides the exception.
>(funny enought when I ask them to define white they call it "european" but cant specify, some of them hate hitler also
There's a lot of latin american neo nazis, and even tsagaan khas in mongolia
>Why they think having hedonistic lyfestyle and stereotypes bout women is ok, but being gay is not ok
the "right" or "reactionaies" are a broad tent political coalition, just like the "left" if you mean "both reformists and revolutionaries" so naturally you get lots of different types. As long as they are willing to collaborate on key issues, they'll ignore differences. Ernst Rohm of the NSDAP was gay, and they ignored this until they purged him.

>Whiteness is a moving target. Many groups who used to not be considered "white" are now considered "white." So called "White" supremacism has to let "new" people in to stay relevant, which is why it is more open to hispanics, asians arabs, italians, and sometimes even jews, etc. than it used to be. At the end of the day, only the darkest sub saharan africans and aboriginal australians are probably permanently excluded from "white" supremacist politics.
I think there is difference between white nationalism and ethno white nationlism, media call neonazis "white nationalist" but its not remotely true

>>2582617
>Religious affiliation is often opportunistic. Religious institutions are powerful forces of reaction, so pretending to be "born again" in order to leverage their power is common. Opportunism is inherently hypocritical, and double standards are essential to wielding power. The sovereign decides the exception.
Not all of them in movement like that so they set up hierarchy and order like himmler did, but it led to despotic power

Alunya is cute!
>why are right wingers hypocrite
Because it's not about morals or ideals or whatever, obviously. It's about capitalism. Whatever else is just a psyop to keep it running. You're either a psyopper or you took the kool-aid without questioning your beliefs in the first place.

>>2582696
depenhds not vall of right wing is capitalist some of them mix capitalism and socialism structure, its abouyt hypocrisy



Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]
[ 1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 /11 /12 /13 /14 /15 /16 /17 /18 /19 /20 /21 /22 /23 /24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 /31 /32 /33 /34 /35 /36 ]
| Catalog | Home