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>>2354774
>coining hot commie summer
You just know a MBA idiot went to college in a Public Relations program to come up with this.

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>>2353935
>The power center of the west…
>CALGARY

>>2354573
The angloid middle class will never be socialist, they've made every reactionary decision possible and given the American response to socialism, it should be clear that they have no interest in socialism. The middle class is downwardly mobile and compound interest is coming for their treats. Said compound interest trickles up to the bourgeois, see >>2354595. Your button strawman doesn't hold up.

>>2354595
Maybe true, but the middle class survived 2008, in spite of financial wounds. If the middle class is to get really rekt in another recession, it's gonna have to be big.

>>2354584
Precisely Anon. The treatlerites have a vested class interest in keeping their access to said treats. A big part of this access comes with homeownership, at least in anglo NA. This does not mean change is impossible in the US, it just means that the class structure of the US has to change in a meaningful way before any sort of revolutionary movement has a base in which to form. Pockets of socialist interest exist in the US, they are just not able, or perhaps even willing, to break the petit bourgeois "moderates" that see their fortunes greater with the haute bourgeois.

>>2354602
Thanks Anon, I will be investigating the middle class question more deeply.

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>>2353975
Metal Gear villain mf



 

>free trade is colonialist oppression and communism creates self-reliance, but also Cuba must trade with capitalist states and beg for sanction relief because they have shortages of everything from electricity and medicine to plastic straws.(Obvious bait)
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>>2356089
>be for some regulated exchange
>it's another episode of MLs are social democrats without the democracy

>>2356105
this, so much this sis
every single country must get rid of all technology from the outside and start anew, only THEN can we begin building socialism
i say we start from the discovery of fire

>>2356113
>ML can't even CONCEIVE of technology or production without exchange

National self-reliance isn't part of the Communist Manifesto. What's a goal of communism is a united world and the end of nation states. Look at the last sentence of the Manifesto.

Self-reliance policy only exists as reaction to the embargo policy by surrounding capitalist states.

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>>2356049
Hmmmmmmmmm. why do sanctions and embargoes work so well on a relatively small island nation with only a limited variety of natural resources, like Cuba but don't work so well on a large transcontinental country like Russia with a large diversity of natural resources and many land-bordering nations?



 

On this anniversary of the Bloody Week, something has struck me, how come socialism and more specifically marxism, in its history since its inception, has been so similar to early christian history ?

I mean think about it, a movement that is mostly aimed towards popular, first kind of chaotic but quickly unified by a main theory, this being Marx. The movement born from this (and other writing, arguably stands for other socialist movement, be they formed from Marx' works or completely separate in origin), with the birth of disparate and not always so united communities, which for a good while were usualy persecuted by the established power. With the development of studies surrounding socialism further on, we see the birth of dogmas, notably in the established socialist states like the USSR, where those established theories becomes official policy. Meanwhile in non socialist states, the communities stay either persecuted or at best tolerated. With the variety of movements and ideas, I find it quite close to early christianity and its oh so varied theological takes.

On another note, I do find interesting how much leftist organization do use religious speech patterns in general, with key words carrying their almost self evident meaning, with a common ideal and struggle and so on. The idea came to me as I was thinking about future history, how will, in say 400 years, these leftist communities be studied ? Could a comparison to medieval/early modern jewish communities also be drawn out ?

Any opinion on the matter ? The comparison could probably be expanded. I'm just kind of curious.
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>>2277977
What the fuck are you on about. Socialism is an extremely loosened version of Christianity. Christianity without fangs is just "guys, be nice to each other". Socialism is just "we can run the world if we're nice to each other, right?!" There's zero awareness of human nature. That's the power, the fangs. If socialists understood human nature, they would become esoteric conservatives, even though they may not agree with most right wing parties, as they are composed of loud retarded points of view that in no serious way oppose the establishment or the other powers that be, and also offers frail solutions to social issues. Esoteric conservatives understand that things used to work better than liberals believe (ie, not all new ideas are better ideas), but they're also smart enough to know that you can't just apply a single rule from the past without changing a bunch of other things too. To the degree that you even care about the world / politics, is the degree that they would be willing to make comprehensive changes to the world. This obviously has a ton of bias and blindspots, and it is by no means perfect, but this is still the real source of power that whoever comes next must claim.

Ziggerism: the new Islam?

socialists should aim to recreate religious experiences and modes of organizing. The quote is from mr karl kautsky (famous man)

>>2326546
we must abolish humanity and its bourgeois nature!

>>2355916
unironic trvke, either end the man-animal separation delusion and simply combine the two, or become a cybernetic man



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Why the fuck are zionists so cartoonishly unhinged? Like, you kind of have to sit back to acknowledge how easily their behaviour would fit into an actual children’s cartoon given how easy it is for literally any mf to consider them to be objectively evil. They cannot be stupid right?
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>>2351191
>As bad as 19th century European Colonialism was, they didn't shoot starving women and children
Boxer rebellion, germans

>>2328239
Biggest trvth nvke ever

>>2354069
It's structural to the language at the moment. English has like 10x the amount of words, so Hebrew is very direct, and Americans also tend to be so "friendly" it's weird to many peoples. But like I was saying, there's a big gap between American Jews and Israeli Jews. There are Israel-Americans and Americans who move there, but my impression is that the Israelis are like "the Jews of the east" really, and the last guy I met who had been in the IDF had been a soccer hooligan for Spartak Moscow ultras or something like that.

An Israeli comedy sketch show once made fun of American Jews on their birthright trip (also a Brazilian Jew in the mix who is horny pervert) and it ended up offending a bunch of people. It's pretty funny though. The Israeli guide is wearing black and khaki and is like "now we've reached the part of the trip where we remember the Holocaust and become sad, okay now that's over, we'll give you a moment to donate money with your parents' credit card so it doesn't happen again because the sequel is always worse than the original." And one of the American girls is like "oh, no problem, my parents have lots of money!"
https://vimeo.com/35660324

>>2328229
Based Israel luring Americans into an unwinnable quagmire for blood sacrifices and American christians volunteer for this

>>2328229
They're this cartoonishly unhinged because the West needs them to be. Someone has to play the villain role in the middle east: it's literally part of the Western ideological machinery and in this case it's Israel and Zionism. Like, they're the enforcers of the material side of Western spiritual delusion. America and postwar Europe offload all their metaphysical contradictions onto Israel, and Israel plays the role with pride, even glee. Their function is to be violent, paranoid, and eschatologically deranged. That's their job. Thats what makes them "chosen people", they're allowed to be the wrath, so the West can feel morally clean and transcendent while simultaneously "indiscriminately" killing more brown people because it's still the same racist kraKKKer empire it always has been.



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>>2355420
It's because they're the perfect age for military/paramilitary service you dotard

>>2355476
>I agree with you and am repeating what you said, you idiot!
ok and?

>>2355476
yes because that's when their 80-90% finished developing brains are smart enough to think they understand the world but too dumb to realize they're on a drug called testosterone that makes them believe the recrooter-groomers

>>2355476
Fit enough for war and labor, not mentally fit enough to meaningfully question and resist authorities

>>2353381
yeah because it's a historically true statement about genocide being endemic under capitalism. it's not meant to downplay the zionist genocide of palestinians but meant to show you that the mode of production produces these genocidal forms of ethnonationalism. you decided to read downplaying into it by comparing it to some e-celeb.



 

I have some spare cash that would be more useful to the people of Palestine, but I really don't know which fund raiser could is a scam or legit.
Do you guys know any charity or something of the like that can be trusted to actually give the money to the people in need or spend it sensibly to help them?
Thank you.
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>>2354284
how are you supposed to know if a crypto wallet address that claims to be PFLP is actually PFLP or if it's just some opportunist pretending to be them

also how tf is PFLP supposed to withdraw and convert its covert funds while under occupation?

>>2347679
Moralist


>>2354284
Do they have any official donation options?

>>2347645
The fundraisers on Chuffed dot org seems pretty legit



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Are they lumpen? Class traitor? Revolutionary lifestyle that doesn't contribute to the working relation of modern capitalism? Leeches? Vagabonds? What's your opinion on NEETs? Did you had a NEETdom period in your life? How was it?

I did have a period of NEETdom, it's a quiet liberating, spent my days reading books, mangas, playing vidya, going to the gym and doing walks, almost 0 stress, pretty freeing lifestyle, I would keep being a NEET if I had the oportunity, but life is a bitch, I survived with Mombux.
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>>2347317
>I'm borne of the lower classes
this is irrelevant to you clearly being a petit bourgeois today

>>2265632
because without work nobody would be able to eat, raise children, or do the things that gives life meaning

>>2265632
>putting work in a pedestal
its not a matter of morals, if you arent working then you arent part of the proletarian movement

>>2296992
Outsourcing is historically progressive and benefits the struggles of the international proletariat.



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mfw clara zetkin who first introduced the idea of an international womens day gets reduced today to just another basic feminist or womens rights figure, the exact kind of liberal shit she was totally against

< She viewed the feminist movement as being primarily composed of upper-class and middle-class women who had their own class interests in mind, which were incompatible with the interests of working-class women. Thus, feminism and the socialist fight for women's rights were incompatible. In her mind, socialism was the only way to truly end the oppression of women. One of her primary goals was to get women out of the house and into work so that they could participate in trade unions and other workers rights organizations to improve conditions for themselves. While she argued that the socialist movement should fight to achieve reforms that would lessen female oppression, she was convinced that such reforms could only prevail if they were embedded into a general move towards socialism; otherwise, they could easily be eradicated by future legislation.

Zetkin is based and we need to make women's day International Working Women's Day again

Marxist women being reduced to """""""""marxist feminists""""""""""" is so fucking tragic.

Zetkin, another moron whose liberalism played a part in the failure of the German revolution
Half-nun half-harlot all of 'em

>>2350456
>liberalism
illiterate

>>2350456
>Half-nun half-harlot all of 'em
Self-snitching



 

DHKP-C literally controlled neighborhoods in Istanbul and held 1st of may marches with tens of thousands until they were weakened by Turkish state sponsored mafias and drug gangs. Most Halk Cephe members also went to fight in Palestine later on. One of the most underapriciated peoples front fr.
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There’s too many parties in Turkey and they all love accusing each other of being deep state operatives

we haven't heard much aboyut turkey

>>2347732
They worked with the regional kurdish revolutionary orgs in turkey, iraq and syria, so all you're going to get is a lot of seething.

I mean I dont know shit about them, got any good source, an in depth article, a documentary?

>>2353106
this tbh



 

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Have you guys seen the GOP nominee? He literally lead a street gang in the 70's and is a talk radio host that looks like a fucking Hitlerite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Sliwa

>>2353954
have you really never heard of the guardian angels? not condescending im really trying to gauge if im just old now

>>2354129
I only heard about them from It's Always Sunny.

>>2353834
Most of the people here didn't even know what the Red Crescent Society does. And I actually have showed people videos of their ambulances getting attacked by Israel while, like, setting up this event. That's… I mean, that's agitation, right? Like, come on. That's agitation? If I'm showing you a video of the imperialist crimes, and you're like, wow, that's terrible, we should give the people who the imperialists are fighting some money… Like, bro, we're raising money for the Viet Cong right now on some shit. And then the other half of the proceeds are going to a local immigration fund, so now we're tying the struggles of the people here to the struggles of the people in the Global South, because it's all connected. And, you know, I don't know what the fuck CAVA is, bro. I just moved here. I've never heard of that shit before in my life. But I know that we have a venue, and I'll tell you what we could get. And if I could turn this venue and this, like, location into the hub spot for leftists in the area, because you've got Orlando, Tampa, and then Miami to the south. Okay, so this becomes the hub spot in the middle. Imagine the discussions that'll be had, and imagine the things that'll be had. I got a community first aid class in the works, working with an EMT that I met, and we're going to do, before a show, to get people to come to the show early and, you know, actually spend money at the show, we'll do a free community first aid class, and he's going to teach this. So when shit hits the fan, motherfuckers are going to be prepared. This is what organization looks like, and maybe I'm going about it the wrong way, and maybe I don't know what I'm doing, and maybe I should be more focused on unions and not focused on the other shit, but I'm doing the best I can with the little I have. I really believe in this shit, and I appreciate your words of support.

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