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>your country or region
>top five [realistic] political positions to make a populist party

Go.

Hard mode: minimise tailism without becoming unpopular. e.g. anti-immigration but not anti-immigrant.
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>>2563732
Apart from housing and healthcare all of that would be wildly unpopular.

>>2563607
USA

1. Universal health care. Start with single-payer (Medicare for All) then expand to full nationalization. Cut long-term costs by emphasizing preventative care.
2. Massive public housing program. Vienna on steroids. Housing should be so good that everyone wants to live in it. Full unconditional housing should be the goal. Should look aesthetically pleasing for PR purposes.
3. Nationwide high speed rail connecting all lower 48 states. Should be cheap and fast enough to compete with airlines.
4. Reinvestment in NASA, funded by seizing all of Elon Musk's assets. First goal should be a second moon landing.
5. Permanent revival and expansion of the Civilian Conservation Corps, acting as a full training and employment program.

>Russia

>revise privatization (total instant nationalization is unrealistic, but renationalizing key enterprises and investigating enterprises that were privatized in a clearly criminal way would be popular)
>bring back soviet/belarus-style guaranteed employment to cut back on educated youths doordashing instead of seeking professional employment
>actual import replacement instead of putting stickers on Chinese goods. partially nationalize car and semiconductor companies, put FSB agents behind their CEOs, heavily subsidize workers conditions until there is a healthy workforce making affordable and decent (even if downmarket) Russian cars and computers
>death sentences for corruption China style
>drop a nuke on ukraine

>>2563607
Country: Argentina

1. Massive development of football public infrastructure

2. Massive nationalization of meat industry and weekly distribution of free asado in government plazas, effectively turning them in the de facto core of the life of the people

3. Massive propaganda psyop campaign that will convince people that Argentina has effective control over the malvinas, while throwing free meat and football players at the UK in order to make them shut up

4. Lunfardo as official government language, pertaining bureaucracy, law, education… Massive pressure to the UN to teach translators lunfardo in order to use it in international councils

5. Massive psyop campaign that will target the capital and convince it that its exorbitant privilege is entirely legitimate, while at the same time deploying a parallel campaign in the provinces that will convince people that the state is actually decentralizing, while in reality absolutely nothing is being done but everyone's happy

>>2563607
>[realistic] political positions
so literally anything already existing bourgeois parties already propose? lol

>anti-immigration but not anti-immigrant
literally all countries to different degrees let acceptable immigrants in and kick out the undesirables already

cool thread man


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Why isn't China funneling money to combat anti-communist propaganda in the west? Or anti-chinese propaganda? Or anything like that? All they do is whine about the confucious institute but its clearly not doing jackshit since sinophobia and anti-communism continue to be rampant. Where are the think tanks? Why aren't they financing channels to screw over the algorhytmn? Why? If they're doing something or anything at all its not enough. Anywhere east of Russia is generally an anti-communist shithole that holds no respect for China and millions of citizens brainwashed into pro-American slopaganda about how China's "stealing technology from the US", "China is totalitarian surveillence undemocratic state when west is freedumz n freeze peach", "Russia aggressor 2022 Putin dictator" "Hummus antisemitism". Why is China letting this retardation continue? Its only fueling the retardation war machine and conditioning the retarded to die for retardation. Why come China is just letting anti-chinese and anti-communist propaganda flood the internet? China is literally winning on all grounds except propaganda, why hasn't it solidified its global importance by financing anti-western sentinment? Why do we have to be forced to listen and see all this retarded bullshit and argue with it to no avail when China has the power to finance cointel to win the information war?
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>>2563305
Its CPC mister Langley.

>>2554839
Maybe Chinese just dont care about western opinions and instead focus on cooperating with 3rd world countries.

>>2554844
respond to what and why.
If the west had a organized and sound comparty with a shot to take power it would make sense for the chinese to fund propaganda thinktanks etc for them but you dont what are they supposed to fund propaganda for you to win internet arguments better they spend it on a bridge somewhere.

>>2563639
I dont see any massive pro-China agitation in the 3rd world either. And if it there was it would also be on the internet for all the world to see and experience as well.

>>2563436
Mutual aid with Nazis will only end with a bigger mess than you started off with


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MCGA
CHINESE WORLD
SINICIZE THE PLANET
DESTROY ALL RELIGION
DESTROY ALL NON-CHINESE CULTURE
ROBOTICS
TECHNOLOGY
SCIENCE


CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA

CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
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>>2563559
>the entire reason I'm a Marxist is to get away from Marxism
>Sino-Marxism, yes
>Chinese ultranationalism, just fascism ino-Marxism, yes, in new garb.
<Fascism in a new garb is when internationalism
GO kill yourself autonomist stalinist shit chauvinist in one nation, I fuck your mother anticommunist retard, CHINA WORLD-WIDE, CHINA NUMBER ONE I FUCK YOUR NATLIBTARDED FAMILY

>>2563559
Marxism in one basement, FUCK STALIN, FUCK YOU TOO, CHINA WORLD WIDE, INTERNATIONAL. STALINIST USSR FAIL, MAOIST CHINA BECOME GREATEST AES IN THE WORLD.

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>>2563559
VIVA XIISMO FUCK YOUR MOTHERISMO TURD WORLDIST LIBTARDED TRASH
CHINA 360 CHINA WORLDWIDE

ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ONE WORLD SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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down with first worldism
down with third worldism
up with second worldism
all countries will become second world countries due to multipolarity. third world countries will be uplifted to be like China and Russia. first world countries will be humbled to be like China and Russia.

The garden and jungle will wither, and only the forest will remain!


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Why not nationalize merchant capital? It seems like a perfectly reasonable liberal democratic reform that is easily achievable under capitalism. The same way the government takes care of roads it should take care of staffing, education, commuting, communications, shipping, retail and logistics of all sorts. Industry should focus on making goods and providing services and not on costs like staffing, training skilled workers and shipping goods. All that stuff is pure overhead which is best nationalized. Picture unrelated.

>>2562816
some countries do this already (ex: in mexicos constitution)


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For one big example, Look at all that had to happen for the Bolsheviks to succeeded
>WW1
>Nicholas making the decision to go to the front line to lead the troops
>The February Revolution
>Kerensky re-entering Russia into WW1
>Kerensky's government collapsing because he tried to orchestrate a coup on himself and then double crossed the Army by arming red militias in petrograd
>The liberals giving the Bolsheviks(among other parties) guns to help stop the Army from overthrowing the provisional government.
>The other socialist parties(which were more popular) believing Lenin would reinstall the constituent assembly
>When the SRs did rise up they refused to execute captured bolshevik officers or do much of anything.
>When the Petrograd sailors rebelled they sat on their island printing newspapers hoping that the people of Russia would realize Lenin was a big meaniehead and get rid of him.

Obviously the future is not a wide-open blank slate where anything can happen. Even massive upheavals like the First World War had observable conditions. But the way it unfolded(with Belgium being invaded and Britain, followed by America, entering the conflict) was due to random chances and the decisions of a handful of individuals.
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>>2490704
>No future American president can ever unbreak what Trump has already destroyed in the first eight months of his presidency
wtf i love trump now

>>2367946
"Lenin is condemned by modern Trotskyist PMC history 😏"…"🫨 wait no, you have to ignore the satanic New World Order of pedophile globalists who force children to spend hundreds of dollars to buy those history textbooks from the Zionist agent Robert Maxwell. We need to talk about pre-1992 history actually, REEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

>>2491487
>Robert Maxwell
Who?

>>2526877
Mossad agent

>>2290660
>all these replies to obvious bait


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got mad having to constantly hear from stirnites so i made this to cope. how the fuck does an ideology like this even continue to exist?

literally every time someone even says something pro-com, there's always a fucking stirnite in the corner of the room chuckling to themselves, waiting for their mom to call them home for chicken nuggies and appy juice
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>>2562951
Do we have hard evidence of that?

>>2562966
None of the brain damage to fascism pipelines have truly been studied. [schiz->nazbol, meth->fash, stroke->fash]

We should also test the alleged efficacy of the LSD to left pipeline. I have doubts, as MKULTRA would surely have some notes on it.

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OP is a fragile baby.

>>2562974
Holy shit soyjaks are real

>>2563903

and they're called german ashkenazis


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Why is China willingly wasting it's time and resources with the AI thing rather than continuing to develop the productive forces while they're still ahead?

Is the idea that they can lead the west into going all-in on something fruitless with the knowledge that China can tank the damage, merely leading the AI race to get the west to hurdle faster at it? Like the AI race is a tunnel painted on a brick wall? Why would western tech companies knowingly charge into a brick wall like that? Like I know they're stupid but surely not that stupid.

not too sure if this is a /leftypol/ or /tech/ thing, sorry.
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>bans Kendrick but not this

a robust computer industry means ready access and easy production of high-tech military equipment like missile guidance systems, drones, electronic warfare equipment, etc., and if nothing else, 'AI' investing will ensure that computers and hardware are supported industries.

additionally, it is possible that a relatively sane society like china can find genuine uses for LLM tech. imagine if american technology wasn't led by idiots like Musk and Altman, but instead by qualified people with at least some education in marxist and related theory.

for example, while i don't think 'AI' should necessarily replace all human operation of vehicles, it would be useful to control more complicated aspects of certain vehicles or other equipment. for a fun sci fi example, something like a small mech or larger powered armor would likely need some kind of automatic limb control for basic walking and movement, while a pilot (or a program if you are anthro-pessimistic) designates directions or waypoint coordinates. Your only other option is some kind of brain-machine interface for something like that. for a more realistic modern example, many fighter jets have computerized systems handle the finer details of the maneuvering of the plane, keeping it stable and reacting reliably to control inputs, while the human pilot applies guidance via the control stick and various buttons etc.

meanwhile americans just use new tech to generate low quality goon material and lobster jesus facebook memes to scam the elderly with.

behind all the "AI" hype nonsense there are actual useful products like better automatic translation and machine vision to help with tasks like >>2563313

>implying AI doesn’t compose a productive force
Idk what to tell you bro.

>>2563243
AI literally is a tool/means of production you absolute cretin.


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No man has been slandered so much in the history of science. The class enemy and their pseudo-intellectuals pour mud and shit on the man who dared to call a spade a spade - that biology is on firm Marxist-Leninist principles. That we did not create Marxism-Leninism, but that it is Marxism-Leninism that created us. Dialetical materialist understanding of the flora and fauna was forged with Great Darwin’s evolution theory. It was sharpened into a fine blade Engels’ brilliant ‘Part played by labour in the transition from ape to man’. Comrade Lysenko gallantly wielded the Immortal Science and embarked on steppe-wide crusade against scarcity amd famine. And the treat lovers hated him for it, they still do. No, no, no! No abundance of wheat, rice, and corn for the asiatic hordes and the African specimen! How dare they! Funko Pops for me, Famine Poop for thee! By burying Lysenko , and promoting Monsanto debauchery in the fields, by bullying Bohm-deBroglie and promoting the Heisenberg-Bohr mystic mafia in reactors, the Treatlerites secured the Century for themselves. But we must not be afraid. We must uphold the Great Men of Science. As Neruda’s pen truthfully carved: To be Man - that is the Stalinist Law !
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>>2523214
Lysenkoism does not go against 'Mendelian Genetics, Molecular Genetics, and Evolution through Natural Selection'.

>>2523226
>eugenics are real guys!!!1
Did you know that twin experiments were proven to be false, right? Without twins experiment, there is no basis for "intelligence" difference, the only real thing that matters between human races. And, thus, eugenics is a useless idea

>>2497828
this

Would any of my fellow Comrades like to give an unbiased Intellectual critique of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Charts I posted at >>2523214 that all came from the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, 🤔✊😜🧬?

>>2523364
Maybe you are thinking of a different guy, because those are all things that Lysenko constantly bitched about, 😂🤣!

>>2502443
>>2502462
lmfao


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So, in addition to the contingent of people who think that Native Americans don’t exist anymore and were all genocided (which ironically is US government propaganda to justify its continued settler-colonial occupation of indigenous land), there also seems to be a contingent of people who thinks that all people in the US regardless of race, *even Native Americans*, are irredeemable and unrevolutionary and should even be killed, such as the posts I’ve circled in the two screenshots I attached. While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself), and that even manyBlack people in the US still contribute to US imperialism, how on earth could you have this little intellectual curiosity and empathy for the plight of indigenous peoples in the so-called US. I mean come on, thousands of completely unique languages foodways, ways of music and art, and beautiful people were and are continuing to be destroyed for the sake of building the most horrible and destructive empire on the history of earth, and instead of having empathy for those whose lands it is built on, you say you want to continue said evil empire’s genocide all while claiming to oppose said evil empire, just because a small comprador class of Native Americans aligns with US imperialism. I mean even if you don’t care about the people themselves, which you should, shouldn’t you care for the sake of intellectualism about thousands of distinct languages and cultures?

Also, something weird I’ve been noticing is that people say that Hawaii, Guam, and Puerto Rico should be freed from the US, but they never say that native peoples with in the lower 48 states and Alaska should be freed, which just naturalizes the US empire’s occupation of indigenous land.

Idk, it just seems like from online discourse both on and off of /leftypol/, that 95+ percent of leftists outside of the US think that all Native Americans are extinct, or think that they’re horrible and unrevolutionary. NonAmericanBros, especially GlobalSouthBros, please tell me you don’t think this. Please tell me you have love and solidarity for your fellow oppressed people, while also being able to criticize them while they are reactionary in a healthy way without writing them off as a whole. I’m not trying to smear every Non-USian leftist, and I know it’s probably just me being emotionallyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2562173
>communism is when kill white people

>>2562529
>You are delusional if you think that mastodon or any such alt-media is even 5% as popular as twitter
I never said so, nor do I give a shit. It's gaining popularity as the twitter shit falls apart, and it itself isn't fucking twitter.
>Try talking to people in real life. No one knows what that is.
Multiple coworkers in three different jobs introduced me to it before I gave it a shot. It's obviously not as popular as any core web platform, but it's not obscure in the slightest, and it's clearly what grass touching leftists use if they bother with social media at all.

>>2562173
>While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself)

People will unironically say this shit then complain “they think decolonization means we’ll do to them what they did to us!”

What J. Sakai does to a mothefrucker.

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>>2562173
The U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American populations like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police (the ICE raids in Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo communities throughout the U$, combined with Trump deploying the National Guard to the Black/New Afrikan and Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo neighborhoods of LA, Chicago, DC, and Memphis, has essentially transformed this into a De Jure reality), as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations are Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists (U$ Communists must give up on the Quixotic Bourgeois Electoralist Tailist Chauvinist effort to desperately appeal to the Ultra-Reactionary White Settler Labor Aristocracy) as stipulated by the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR that is articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR, which will happen once the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is already viable in the Material Conditions, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where MaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Punished Buttigieg Edition

Thread for the blackest discussion related to the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md

📺 Facts™ 📺
(sponsored by Eagle Burger Freedom Institute (previously USAID))
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>>2562803
>the short term benefits aren't worth the planet getting destroyed and everyone hating us

America's enemies worship America and legitimize themselves by pointing out similar to America they are.

zohran status?

>>2563246
he's saying the same shit Matt Christman did but from the other perspective lol

>>2563169
Building red army is the only thing that works. American never even tried to build red army so they are fascist

>>2562592
>They don't achieve things
>Literally become mayor of the largest city in the world
Also
>If you dont join my larp you are literally evil child rapist jeffrey epstein human trafficker
Man, do you people get why i say that you guys have nothing to you except appeal to morality? How is this any different than some unhinged street preacher condemning non-Christians to hellfire and saying that all liberals are secretly child eating abortion demons? That's not going to attract anyone to the movement


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