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Why do Americans hate democratic governance so much??
Like this isn't anywhere near true for Republicans.
Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan and Bush jr all got more votes in their reelection bids then they did initially.
Even Trump came back and ultimately massively improved on his numbers from 2016.
Why does the power of governance seemingly HARM the ability of most democrats to win elections??
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>>2196379
>we are very largely liberal and leftist as a whole
that's the problem

>>2196379
none of this is true

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>>2196334
>>2196339
Bill Clinton's administration was literally a complete fluke. The Democrats had intended to sacrifice him because Bush looked almost unstoppable after the Gulf War. He owes more to Ross Perot than to any of the "Third Way" hacks.
>>2196379
You Redditors are absolutely fucking tiring. Russia was effectively run by the USA back in the 1990s being plundered for everything that wasn't nailed down. In fact, the real psyop was when the USA helped Yeltsin steal the 1996 Presidential election.
>>2196376
Screenshotted.

Why is the thought of Russia having glowies so thought terminating for some people? Yeah, they didn't create reactionarism in the US. But you can't deny money has been flowing. And there are constant cyber attacks by Russia, just as many as American cyber attacks. I bet even the Dems received russian money until Obama.

>>2196376
>At least the Republicans are getting what their candidates promised then
nah. It's just that reactionarism is vibes, so you can't even do wrong in that regard. Even if the leopard ends up eating your face. I will say this, there hasn't been a better time for multipartidism in the US, as there is a larga ammount of people who hate both the Dems and the Reps. Not all of them are sympathetic to socialism (yet), but it is something.



 

It's been a while since I read Capitalist Realism (like it or no), but I seem to remember a kind of call to arms for a new kind of art beyond the mise en abyme irony or total despair that capitalism's metabolization of anticapitalist art into the hegemonic mainstream seems to necessarily engender. What does art that actually imagines an alternative future look like? I think Ursula Le Guin may have charted a kind of course here (I've only read one or two of her books), but I'm curious what others think. What art do you think is legitimately anticapitalist? What do you think are the main qualities of anticapitalist art?
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lol it looks like whatever. "anti-capitalist" is vague enough to fit almost anything you want

>>2196285
Damn you said dialetical. I admit defeat

>>2196285
>a consequence of the dialectical process
Major pseud alert.

I've been thinking about the way that art is always necessarily downstream of the economic mode. In hunter gatherer societies, art is integrated into everyday life through practically useful objects and storytelling passed orally from generation to generation. In feudal societies, art is produced by guilds for the enjoyment of the nobles and poetry depicting great deeds reinforces the existing mode and superstructural constructs like chivalry. Under capitalism, art is produced by individuals to become a commodity for trade on an exchange and primarily a store of extracted value, or as propaganda to reinforce the ideological postures necessary for capitalist subjects.

So an anticapitalist art would need to eschew a capitalist mode of production and capitalist logic. Communist art would necessarily be predicated on a communist mode of production. I'm not imaginative enough to envision what exactly that would look like. I'm interested to know if others have any ideas.

>>2196441
I would hypothesize that 'communist art' would be much more communal and local than art as consumerism, in a world where AI can generate any slop you might want the joy would possibly be in seeing your friends and colleagues act out a play, perform a concert, etc than just watching some guy from around the world. Maybe nothing would even be recorded of these performances since them being transient is part of the point.



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The battle of Khartoum has finished.
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>>2195588
>Victoria Nuland
Why

>>2195899
That bitch is the literal antichrist

>>2195527
fuck you, retard

>>2195586
sudanese government is pretty shit
RSF is comprised a lot of former janjaweed or whoever the guys were that did the darfur genocide
both are pretty shit but its nice to hear the guys who did darfur are getting their shit kicked in, i guess the government is slightly less evil

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>>2195586
>>2196358
also the RSF fought against the Houthis
Generally speaking, nomadic Arab tribes around the Sahara are usually reactionary, tending towards Islamist separatism and weakening whatever state they are living in because their small population relative to the size of the territory they inhabit makes it very easy for them to be bribed by Gulf monarchies to capture and steal the natural resources belonging to the state they are living in. For example the three anti-French coup governments are all fighting against these kinds of Islamist insurgents. Of course RSF is a lot more than a militia at this point, but they are still supported by the Gulf for the same reasons.



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Years ago, there was a time when the African union would directly involve itself in military affairs in the continent. Libya and Somalia are famous examples being you can still find footage of African union soldiers in service to this day.

These days, it seems to have taken a “backseat” approach to conflict where it favours peace talks and ceasefires. I’ll admit, I thought this was idiotic, but I can understand this change. However, many of the conflicts going on in Africa today are self defeating.

The Tigray war ended, the Sudan war saw the RSF rapidly decline spontaneously, and the m23 group has lost all its momentum and is growing closer towards being forced to meet the AU’s original demands. To me, it seems like the union’s leaders are dismissive of war in the continent today largely because they are aware that they really don’t have to involve themselves in these conflicts for the continent to see peace.

Obviously to the reader here, you’ll probably want to know what the Union is doing in place of getting involved these days. From what I’ve read, the union is taking a stronger stance on promoting education throughout the continent and women’s empowerment more.
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>>2174607
Very good given how fast the continent’s literacy has grown.

>>2174632
Good to hear the African Union still has weight.
I thought the murder of Ghaddafi by the USA had destroyed it

>>2174454
NUKE THE AU
NUKE THE EU
NUKE THE UN
NUKE THE BRICS
total bourgeois globalist organisation destruction
>bb-buh panafirca
stfu, dead ideology, nothing inherently revolutionary about it, only ethopian nationalists, shit for brains disapora africans and carribans & afro-americans take this shitty concept seriously in the twenty first fucking century

>>2196117
Nuke Africa too, bro, why stop only with those places? Nuke the entire planet already.

>>2196149
internationalist orgs of the bourgeois are the enemy, not the mere concept of internationalism which aids the revolutionaries, shit for brains



 

Are we going to keep ignoring this issue?
20 year old white men are more right wing than other age demographic of their group

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-david-shor.html(saged for 14g and fear porn)
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>>2196310
>they are both minority (numerically) and marginalized (to at least some extent)
They're the single wealthiest religious demographic. Antisemitism is still real of course, but it doesn't rise to the level of systemic discrimination that locks Jews out of social mobility or high status positions the way anti-Black racism does.

>>2196322 (me)
Oops, wasn't done yet

I'm sensing one of those demands that tries to detach white people from the problem by only addressing the matter in an abstract way.

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>>2196087
>I get your point, but if you think having to hear "white guys suck" is enough to have valid resentment that justifies turning away from leftism as a white guy and warranting accomodation for white guys, then doesn't the same conclusion apply to non-whites in terms of racism, women in terms of misogyny and queer people in terms of queerphobia by a thousand fold?

Yes, 100% I'm glad you agree. We shouldn't be insulting or belittling queer people, or women, or minorities. It's partially why I brought up that "Racism is Power + Prejudice" thing; don't see it used anymore but I remember it being used excessively back in the day, usually over the most minor or petty insults. Now I don't know what they're teaching now, but in my day racism had a really simple definition: mistreating someone because of their race. And while not a perfect definition, it appeals to common sense, to that golden rule: "treat others the way you want to be treated." So the premise is simple, if you don't want to be looked down on and yelled at because of who you are, you don't do that to others. If you belittle or insult, for example, a black man, then you're opening the door to them doing the same right back.

>The extent of harm and suffering brought about by a supestructure centered around white hetero males, in which white hetero males prevelantely participate in, is much greater than a white guy occassionally hearing some variant of "white guys suck" on the internet. And in that case isn't it less realistic to expect poc/female/queer people to look past their resenment when your solution deems it unrealistic to ask white guys to do it, when their experience of perceived antagonism is puny in comparison?


You may have to elaborate more on this. Like are we saying it's harmful if, for example, some hobby or sport is mostly populated by white guys? In which case I'd argue that defining the mere existence of white men in any large number in any one particular institution as inherently harmful is a bit dicey. However I think I might be misunderstanding what you're saying here.

As for looking past resentment, it's got to start somewhere. Now personally I've had coworkers and peers (when I was in uni) who would say that "white Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2196322
>The ruling class has fabricated artifical divisions such as racism but they are acted upon by a large number of white people and therfore produce the reality of poc of experiencing racism in various forms again and again throughout their lives.
Imma hop in with asking: "Is it really fair to generalize when most just don't see or realize that supremecy stuff?"
Many come out of high school as libs (enforced by the state) since they want to believe capitalism can work and are buy into the human face of liberalism – most don't even subscribe that much into it, and generally if scratched just mentally disengage with the conversation.
Especially considering that them and whites in general, here in america, are just not as bribed.

It's one to argue over if Zionists can be convinced, especially with how much they benefit from the genocide – whites here (that aren't rich) get what? $20 eggs? Woah!

And the anger against the sindi-cat thinking is funny since it's that thinking that people would use to argue why an anti-police movement that includes whites wouldn't happen.
Or the always correct based bad empanda arguing that anti-genocide movement wouldn't happen here…. Opps!

The “left” embraced neoliberalism thus becoming “right”. Those further left (Sanders, Corbyn etc) got demonised out of existence by the right wing owned press (including SoMe). Neoliberalism destroyed society with greed culture, unlivable wages and extreme inequality and the young people who have no chance of home ownership, quality free time, clean resources and with a grim looking future choose to follow those charismatic types (who now have endless SoMe promotion) who promise them an easy solution that gives an outlet for their anger. Also young people have forgotten what happened last time the far right had power The democrats in the US and Labour in the UK enabled the far right shift by presenting identity politics as the goal of social democracy rather than social equality and universal wellbeing just as the conservative parties enabled banks and super-corporations to transfer wealth upwards to the disadvantage of the working man.



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The ongoing war on terror fought across the Sahel is complex, but there’s a bigger issue at hand. The entirety of the Sahara is undefended. Basically any terrorist grouped can walk through with little resistance given how barren and deserted it is. One could say that the Maghreb serves as a barrier (it barely does), but that doesn’t reflect well given that most North Africans live at the border of the continent than in the denser proper. The only means of stabilizing the Sahel and Africa is through the simultaneous conquering and fortification of the entirety of the Saharan wasteland.

I don’t even know how one could tackle such a massive goal. It has to be done and it is being done to some extent with the Sahel and ECOWAS efforts, but it isn’t enough.
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>>2195480
DAS RITE
Message to all wh(Toids ITT:
Bow down to ORIGINAL MEN, suck BBC when asked, and maybe BLACK BULL will give you a quick death when the BLACKKKOMMUNIST forces are breaking down your door

>>2195480
Retarded take.

>>2195334
who are you even responding to im just saying OP is making no sense, is anyone even ADVOCATING for "invading the sahara"?

Free bump: camel meat

>>2195504
>Retarded take.
Search your feeling, you know it to be true.



 

In this thread we will discuss methods and means of informing and persuading people to be socialist on the internet.

I got this idea by randomly stumbling upon this genre of gameplay footage in the background while popular characters are made to say pro-socialist arguments as a response to a typical view on socialism. It‘s kind of pathetic that this is the way people of today need to make others understand what socialism is, but the idea is actually good. It‘s perfect for young people with low attention spans looking for funny memes. It‘s also simple to make.
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>>2195023
It's medium length for a TikTok, sure, but it's in chunks strung by questions. I recon it'd be vocabulary to first filter someone.

>>2194672
Use the same methods that capiyalist marketing firms use to pursuade people to buy unnecessary plastic shit but instead promote propaganda.

>>2195031
No the whole fucking thing. The only people who would understand it already know it. It's preaching to the choir shit, but you're mixing it with Blues Clues like a toddler will get it.

>>2195036
Then the content needs to be more introductory level.




 

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>>2195207
Finally. The heckin' trans folk can also kill my kind without being judged by the government in the middle-east!

>>2195292
nobody here "worships" russia they just very critically and very conditionally "support" cheerlead them in their war against NATO expansion because it triggers libs and NATO is genuinely a fucked up imperialist organization, the and the direct successor to the anticomintern pact

>>2195284
>color revolution is unlikely with USAID defunded
are people under the impression that USAID was the sole vehicle through which the US conducts regime change oeprations? The CIA has countless fronts for regime change ops. Trump merely got rid of the wokewashed institutions which brought regime change in the trojan horse of progressivism.

>>2195296
Real Wittgenstein hours, eh?
Also not the anon, but I always laugh when people call Americans mutts. Are they proud of being inbred or something? Do they imagine that humans are more than one species?

>>2195207
Drumpf pic is killing me 💀💀



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Sudan’s army retakes presidential palace in Khartoum, strikes blow to RSF
The development comes just days after RSF leader Mohamed Hamdan “Hemedti” Dagalo released a video urging his fighters not to give up the palace. Civilians have generally welcomed the army as liberators despite some reports of army-aligned militias carrying out human rights abuses following RSF withdrawals.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/21/sudans-army-retakes-presidential-palace-in-khartoum-strikes-blow-to-rsf
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South Africa: Removal of Illegal Connections Sparks Protests in Khayelitsha
Community leader Hlubi Mayekiso said the shack dwellers want Eskom to return their electrical wires or install formal electricity in their shacks. Most of the shack dwellers had moved onto the land during the Covid lockdown in 2020.
https://allafrica.com/stories/202503200384.html
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Ethiopia introduces new tax to fill gap after USAID funding pause
The new tax will apply to people employed in both the private and public sectors. A mandatory contribution will also be asked of companies across sectors such as banking and hospitality. The new bill has been forwarded to a parliamentary committee for deliberation on the percentages to be contributed.
https://apnews.com/article/ethiopia-usaid-new-tax-0ca2100df356ed7ca4f3ffe4f6a82442

Israel threatens annexation after expanding ground offensive in Gaza
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Washington bars ex-Argentina president from entering US, citing corruption
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement that Kirchner and former planning minister Julio Miguel De Vido "abused their positions by orchestrating and financially benefitting from multiple bribery schemes involving public works contracts, resulting in millions of dollars stolen from the Argentine government."
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/washington-bars-ex-argentina-president-entering-us-over-alleged-corruption-2025-03-21/

Mexico’s attorney general cites irregularities in investigation of alleged cartel killing site
He said local authorities didn’t investigate the ownership of the ranch and failed to scientifically analyze locations at the ranch to understand if they were used as crematoriums. Investigators did not arrest local officials who have been linked to activities at the ranch, he said.
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-jalisco-cartel-site-cartel-attorney-general-602461c9e619a063945fca9e6a6a4fe6

Environmental tragedy in Ecuador: thousands of barrels of oil spilled in several rivers
The failure occurred after a landslide in Achiote, near Quinindé. Several experts have stated that it is one of the worst oil spills in recent years in the country. As of now, the government of Daniel Noboa has not disclosed the number of barrels of oil spilled in Esmeraldas.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/03/20/environmental-tragedy-in-ecuador-thousands-of-barrels-of-oil-spilled-in-several-rivers/

Canada cancels controversial capital gains tax increase
The federal government will also keep the increase in the lifetime capital gains exemption limit to C$1.25 million ($871,930.80) on sale of small business shares and farming and fishing property, Carney's office said in a statement.
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Raids shatter perception of Puerto Rico as a sanctuary for immigrants
For decades, undocumented immigrants have lived in the U.S. territory without fear of arrest. They’re allowed to open bank accounts and obtain a special driver’s license. Many have felt safe enough to open their own businesses.
https://apnews.com/article/puerto-rico-immigration-raids-a69e83f87fa67d9560e8d200f2d4fb39

‘Bad sign’: Purge of data experts raises alarms over economic reports
The abrupt removal of experts supporting monthly reports that are closely watched by everyone from the Federal Reserve to business leaders is a sign of trouble ahead for agencies responsible for providing vital measurements of inflation, unemployment, productivity and growth, economists and former agency officials said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/21/labor-commerce-department-economy-data-doge-00241559
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The Bidens want back in
So far, Biden's overture seems to have fallen flat. Democrats find themselves adrift, casting about for a compelling messenger. Whoever that is, it's not Biden, many party activists and donors contend. He's tethered to the 2024 defeat and, at 82, is a symbol more of the party's past than its future, they argue.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/bidens-want-back-in-rcna196956

Boeing whistleblower’s family claims company’s conduct caused his suicide
Boeing pushed John Barnett to his death by harassing and intimidating him after he raised safety concerns about the company’s plant building the 787 Dreamliner in Charleston, South Carolina, a wrongful death lawsuit filed in federal court in the state alleges.
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Unions must go on the offensive to reshape this country
THE trade union conference season is now under way. Regional TUCs are assessing the challenges facing workers in their areas. Since it is the first spring under a Labour government since 2010, this should be an optimistic process, with unions able to set out which policies they have won ministerial support to implement. Unfortunately it is anything but. Labour has attacked pensioners, children in poverty and Waspi women. It has just announced sweeping attacks on the sick and disabled. These are all attacks on working-class people. But Labour has refused to stand up for workers however narrowly you define the term. The private interests of billionaires from Ineos boss Jim Ratcliffe to Tata Steel’s reigning tycoons are allowed to override the interests of workforces and the wider economy when they toy with the futures of strategic assets like steel in Port Talbot or oil and chemicals at Grangemouth.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/editorial-unions-must-go-offensive-reshape-country

What is "ReArm Europe"? Multi-tool of warfare against the peoples
The EU has announced the “ReArm Europe” program worth 800 billion euros, signalling a rapid increase in its war spending. It is thus reinforcing the war economy strategy and armaments of the previous period, escalating its involvement in the imperialist war in Ukraine. Its aim is to play a leading role on the Ukrainian front in conditions of heightened Euro-Atlantic antagonisms and US-Russian bargaining.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/03/what-is-rearm-europe-multi-tool-of-warfare-against-the-peoples.html

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Marxist theories of the state have long recognized that, for capitalism to sustain itself, the state must act on behalf of capitalism as a system, not merely at the behest of individual capitalists. When the state abandons its role in overseeing capitalism’s long-term viability and instead caters narrowly to specific firms (or individuals), the results can be ruinous. Marxist state theory, in its more opaque register, dubbePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

what is our opinion on Thomas Sankara and african/black leftism in general? It's very obvious that most African Revolunaires are Anti-Colonist but I've also seen most black socialists have very nationalistic opinions too. Would you call yourself an black socialist?

Thomas Sankara was based but he wasn't a nationalist.

>>2195506
Sage reverted

What do you mean by nationalistic opinions?

>It's very obvious that most African Revolunaires are Anti-Colonist
Lol, at least be one of those people who call themselves anti-imperialists.

>but I've also seen most black socialists have very nationalistic opinions too.

Anti-imperialism is just nationalism under a leftoid facade. Support one nation over another, etc.



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