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How do we organize a red guard to suppress counter revolution ? Cuba North Korea and china have excellent intelligence and police forces any idea how they got so
Good
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>>2281264
So true this worked amazingly well in Spain and is why they are the only existing Anarcho Communist nation today.

>>2281264
I don't think "don't worry about it people will self organize" is sound, materialist thinking.

>TIL all fascists are black

>>2281892
The CNT was at least actually fighting fascism, as opposed to rolling over for the Nazis like the German communists did at the advice of the Soviet Union

>>2281901
The opposite is true akcshually sweaty
>carried out by the military with support of the Anarchists and a major faction of the Socialists
>The military and some politicians intended the coup as a first step towards opening peace negotiations with the Nationalists; for the Anarchists and Socialists the priority was to remove the Communists from power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_coup_of_March_1939

The CNT and PSOE were nazis



 

What's up with all the antisemitism?

Israel may have its faults, but it's still the only functional democracy in the middle east, surrounded by different kinds of Islamic tyrants and fascists. Israel's hostile neighbors despise human rights, treat their women like cattle, and openly call for the destruction of the Jewish state. The more I look into it, the more I realize that Israel is simply defending itself.

Also when Hamas terrorists use child soldiers, hide in hospitals and uses civilians as meat shields, you can't blame the IDF for the collateral damage.
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>>2282104
you posted the wrong version

>>2282108
There's nothing to be torn about. You are just some dude on the internet entirely disconnected from the conflict in real material terms. You suffer nothing whatsoever from calling a genocide a genocide.

>>2282160
How can Palestine win?

>>2282108
Focus on ending the genocide. Who gives a shit of Israel still exists?

>you can't blame the IDF for the collateral damage.
Human beings aren't damaged, soulless NPCs like you are damaged because you aren't human



 

Primitive Communism is the most successful mode of production in human history. For over 200 thousand years human beings lived in small groups, hunting and foraging for food and producing tools, handicrafts and shelters for themselves. During this time all labor was directly social. There was no value-form, no markets or money, no class society, and hierarchies were extremely limited or ephemeral. Small numbers of hunter-gatherers even persist in this lifestyle to the present day.

Maybe instead of worshiping some statist industrialization experiment that barely lasted 80 years, you could instead follow a communism that actually WORKS and has a proven track record of success and stability.
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>>2279815
>I could argue that Earth was the most successful when humans weren't around because humans weren't around for most of Earth's history. I can argue that life was most successful when it was single-cellular because for 3 billions years life was single cellular and multi cellular life began only 600 million years ago.
all of this is true though

>>2253316
>most successful mode of production
<gets almost completely eradicated

>>2279832
you ignored the rest of the post, good job

>>2279123
in hunter gatherer style society theres no time for turning latex into molds that requires agricultural society which is productive enough to have a full time specialist in crafting.

The most reliable birth control in hunter gatherer would be pullout or using breastfeeding to delay additional ovulation

>South Korea = Authoritarian Capitalism hell
>North Korea = Authoritarian Socialism hell
>India = Authoritarian Capitalism hell
>China = Authoritarian Socialism hell
In Ooga Booga we trust.



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Why did the spirit of communism die? Has the global bourgeoisie strengthened itself, corrected the mistakes that contributed to its removal, and cemented itself then countries that were communist have returned to the oppressive system they had before.
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>>2247357
Cause all it did in the 20th century was industrialise some poor countries. Nothing revolutionary.

>>2281151
If you look at what workers demanded and what they were thinking.. Like 8 h workday, that they can change the work day, but only them can do that, not the bourgeois or party or anyone else. Is it not revolutionary? You may think it is just economism, I think it is not. My boss delegated his role and went writing a book. Can you do that? Do you think you could do that? You see, you do not think you can do that, you will not write a book. The ideaology does not permit this type of thinking. Ok then USSR was just a big monopoly for some managers to manage, but it is a monopoly where workers were thinking they can take time like that. May be not all, not now, but …

Some time ago I was pointing that party and Lenin wrote on reducing labor time, like there were going to reduce labor time… Why Lenin said that if workers already had that idea? I now not sure I'm ok with that what Lenin wrote. Did he man I need a permission from Lenin/party to take my time.. Was the idea workers had that they can take time, replaced by _you_can_take_time_when_party_allow? If so, not ok.

>the spirit of communism
lib moment

Communism as a state of things is prolly generations away. Something like that’s only going to happen under some global socialist federation of nations. Which is why national liberation movements are important because imperialism must end because that’s how capitalism manages to continue to prolong itself. The reason revolution is inevitable is because capitalism can’t maintain the well begin or basic survival of the vast majority of humans.

As for why the movements of the 20th century failed it’s because they were too early but were still important. Liberal democracy and capitalism took over a century to become the main mode of production. My theory is that communism in 20th century was a basically a conservative(not in the burger idea) reaction to industrial capitalist economies suddenly taking over and becoming economic power house. The east was basically the global hegemony of the feudal era, they were basically victims of their own success and geography that allowed feudalism to persist much longer than it did in Western Europe. I remember one anon saying lenin getting capital by Marx was basically getting a future sport almanac that he used to bypass much of the problems caused by capitalist economies during industrialization.

>>2281961
>global socialist federation of nations
Utopian libslop



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Sparta was AES, don't let fascists deceive you. Plutarch describes how King Lycurgus of Sparta was one of the earliest historical figures to redistribute all land into equal plots, ending the extreme inequality he witnessed and giving back to the people. Lycurgus then abolished money, banning gold and silver coins from circulation and leaving only iron which had little value among people. This cut off trade from Sparta, transforming it into a self-sustaining society where people produced what was necessary for their needs and not for monetary gain. Lycurgus also made the rich sit down and eat side by side with the poor through the syssitia communal system, where food and drink was shared among Spartans.

Athens was AES. Athenian democracy was born out of class struggle between rich and poor. The radical statesman Cleisthenes, aka father of democracy, founded the demes and brought the people into politics, which had been the business of the elite, making any male citizen over 20 eligible to participate on government matters, officers chosen by sortition, and founding the council of 500 to oversee the ekklesia. Before him, Solon laid the foundations for democracy by abolishing all debts, banning loans, freeing enslaved debtors, reforming the judicial system to be able to prosecute any privileged citizen, allowing the poor into the assembly and lawcourts, opening archonship to non-nobles. This direct democracy had an important influence in the socialist movement, with many leftists striving towards that system to replace the phony libtard democracy of today.
We must learn from their successes, discard the bad parts and carry the torch of Cleisthenes and Lycurgus. Rome with its corrupt republicanism was liberal insanity, though. And don't forget that the last vestiges of democracy were ended by them. No wonder the modern bourgeois state modelled itself after Rome.
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>>2276027
We going to forget the slavery on display and slaughtering of civillians in the sequel?
that being said Xerxes was a fabulous villain


>>2277303
So? Aes countries are usually 90% wagies

Seeing as we're talking about Ancient Greece, I'd recommend reading the following:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/1956/06/every-cook.htm

>We must get rid of the idea that there was anything primitive in the organization of the government of Athens. On the contrary, it was a miracle of democratic procedure which would be beyond the capacity of any modern body of politicians and lawyers, simply because these believe that when every man has a vote, equality is thereby established. The assembly appointed a council of 500 to be responsible for the administration of the city and the carrying out of decisions.


>But the council was governed by the same principle of equality. The city was divided into 10 divisions and the year was divided into 10 periods. Each section of the city selected by lot 50 men to serve on the council. All the councillors of each section held office for one tenth of the year. So that 50 people were always in charge of the administration. The order in which the group of 50 councillors from each section of the city should serve was determined by lot. Every day, the 50 who were serving chose someone to preside over them and he also was chosen by lot. If on the day that he was presiding, the full assembly met, he presided at the assembly.


>The council had a secretary and he was elected. But he was elected only for the duration of one tenth of the year. And (no doubt to prevent bureaucracy) he was elected not from among the 50, but from among the 450 members of the council who were not serving at the time.


>When members had served on the council, they were forbidden to serve a second time. Thus every person had a chance to serve. And here we come to one of the great benefits of the system. After a number of years, practically every citizen had had an opportunity to be a member of the administration. So that the body of citizens who formed the public assembly consisted of men who were familiar with the business of government.


>No business could be brought before the assembly except it had been previously prepared and organized by the council.


>When decisions had been taken, the carr
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>>2277311
Good stuff, adding it to my democracy reading list



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The Wine-Soaked Manifesto
As dictated by Tyrion Lannister, Scholar of Dust, Patron of Bastards, and Accidental Prophet of the Garbage-Age,
with liberal astral input from Timothy Leary’s ghost on a contact high




I. A TOAST TO THE END, WITH LIPSTICK ON THE GLASS

Let it be known: I do not come bearing revolution. Revolutions are noisy, sweaty things led by people with slogans and delusions of symmetry. I bring instead a proposition—sauced in irony, served in a chipped goblet—because what we need is not a new world, but a better way of being lost in this one.

Our kingdoms have crumbled into content feeds. Our heroes are blue-checked husks. The Oracle is a search engine with a gambling addiction.

And yet—I am having a marvelous time.

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Getting personages to more or less cobble together manifesting for future movements.

To mixed success.
This one has a negative and depressing ending.
It's supposed to be a rising from the favela ashes, change of perspective, carving out a blissful (by medieval standards at least?) composite of heaven.

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Now that’s a noble question—one that Tyrion and RAW would toast with bitter laughter and still try to answer sincerely. Let’s try to flip the script and imagine a positive evolution of neo-neoliberalism, one that aims not to extract but to elevate.




1. The Positive Version: Neo-Neoliberalism Reforged

Let’s imagine a system that keeps the dynamism of markets and innovation—but redirects the incentives toward universal flourishing rather than elite hoarding. This system might still use:

Platforms, but designed with open standards and democratic governance.

Data, but controlled by the individuals who produce it.

Automation, but to eliminate drudgery, not to create precarity.

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I've pretty much left feminism and all that stuff to the women stuff. I don't often feel welcome there and being an activist for too many things at once is just exhausting. I just care about economic stuff and trans gay and other stuff. To be honest, I find I feel most natural when I'm liking what's called tough guy stuff and macho hypermasculine stuff. Seems like a contradiction to me. The stuff like aggression and mental toughness is cool inside of fiction, but obviously not when somebody in real life has no ability to process emotions properly, or turning that aggression to abuse others.

So does feminism mean leaving behind all that stuff as individuals and as a society? But that stuff always seemed so cool to me, and stuff called masculine and conforming to that stuff feels good. Maybe it's just because of male socialization. Leaving that behind sounds like it'd suck. Couldn't it be an evolutionary change to reduce the more toxic aspects of that, and making things more balanced? There was lots of toxic things humans did during the middle ages for example, and a lot of those behaviors and mindsets were left behind. Does that mean the same thing will happen to masculinity?

What if masculinity is cool and femininity is cool and stop calling them that eventually and they just become traits that can apply to any person depending on how they express themselves. This is just hard to deal with. Plenty of people like both masculine and feminine stuff. Do men have to leave behind traditional concept of masculinity entirely to make a better world? Or will it be iterative instead of complete overhaul. Either way I guess what's most important is being a well rounded person rather than conforming to stereotypes. All this gender stuff means more freedom, and this kind of freedom can't be bad. There's nothing better than freedom besides equality.

Also will this new masculinity will be as good to watch in action movies.
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I think I'm never going to get any satisfactory out of feminists, and I think I'm going to have to accept that.
Feminists now are abusive rapists.

I've used leftypol, tiktok, rednote, instagram, reddit, and some others I'm probably forgetting – I haven't met one that didn't atleast:
* lie,
* white wash,
* support abuse
* support false rape accusations / rape
* goal shift,
* gaslight,
* change definitions,
* change the weight of words,
* lie through statistics
* push for group think
* defend pedophilia
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>>2275194
I forgot to say one thing:
> Real rapists
I'm not saying men dont majority represent rapes, my issues is that the movement, with this study as an example, simplify it to just gender essentialism, making rape not something you want to fight back, but a tool for you people to argue why you should rape.

This is why I think of those feminists in the early 2000s that would argue that men/little-boys cant be raped by women since rape is tied to power (and men have the power in patriarchy).

I'm not trying to be a conservative that's like
> The democrats are the real rapists
You people are also either rapist allies, desire to rape, or just rape.
Everytime I interact with you people this is what I get – it's no surprise I get so frustrated I mentally give up and want you people genocide, since your as valuable to society as a fucking landlord.

>>2239946
Google Sammy Teusch

>>2214712
>The idea that women are oppressed has lead to this culture of thinking its ok to hate and work against men.
You are delusional

>>2181597
I see it as similar to national liberation. Bourgeois national liberation can only get you so far. Bourgeois feminism was historically progressive but now that a substantial amount of women have been proletarianized and raised themselves out of their lumpenized status bourgeois feminism is no longer progressive.
It's kind of like how sometimes communists support Iran. I think of radfems like Khomeini. I think critical support for Andrea Dworkin was called for. Today, we should not support bourgeois feminism.



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Person without conclusive evidence indicted with Federal charges.
Sentenced to death during the Easter Holiday.

During the Easter holiday, Christians mourned the passing of Jesus, an innocent man who spoke up against authority. On Easter Sunday Christians celebrate Jesus as he rose from the dead. For 2000 years we have had a yearly strike because Jesus was unjustly crucified.
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>>2280920
also
>exploited by shareholders
<Stocks are wages in kind
amazing! Nobody's ever actually being exploited! You're just paying someone else's wages through the stock system!

>>2281166
True. Shareholder capitalism has abolished exploitation. Now we must fight against the remaining bourgeois parasites who are stealing our surplus value through the state: firefighters, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. all of whom engage in non-productive labor and are subsidized by us real proletarians.

>>2281166
Managerial proletarian being paid stock is wage in kind. same as working in company town. The managerial proletarian cannot cash out unless the master allows it.

Why is adventurism bad anyways?
How exactly do people expect the class awareness, the momentum, the organisation, all that is necessary to develop in the proletarian masses, if adventurists don't inspire masses to act?
There's lots of people who probably finally decided to read theory or organise because of Luigi
There's lot's you can frighten capital into doing with a few adventurists
Every revolution has occured not out of nowhere, but after a series of previous events that could be called adventurism
And yet everywhere I got all I here is it's bad… just le because, okay????

>>2281661
It depends on the context, but speaking generally, you don't want to encourage every schizo with a grudge and that kinda sorta maybe remembers reading the manifesto once to just grab a gun and start blasting. Random, unrestrained violence is a hell of a thing to introduce to a society, and it can work against you, especially if you're trying to build an actual revolutionary movement. It also creates a perfect pretext for glowies to carry out false flags in your name.

Putting it another way, revolutionary violence is a double edged sword, and you want to control its swing as much as possible.



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is america in it's yeltsin era? we're seeing a strong centralization of power on an old retard on the brink of death implementing some of the most cartoonishly unpopular reforms ? as well a massive transfer of wealth towards massive capitalists and bourgeois criminal elements, i'm just curious if it will end up panning out in the exact same way as the russian federation or if it will be different in some sort of way

No. Or else you'd be selling your possessions on the street.



 

No amount of tailism will convince psycosis-ridden immigration-obsessed retards to support socialism. Socialist propaganda works best on libs who start to gain class consciousness. i don't care if they say cringe things about Obama or how "the US repressented freedom before Trump".
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>>2281265
you are a fucking idiot using leftist language to dress up your racism and xenophobia. literally think for .02 seconds and consider the role of the employers in hiring 'illegals', who is more culpable, the desperate people looking to make enough money to survive and take care of their family, or the corporate personnel hiring unregulated and illegal migrant labor to fuck over the price of labor locally? If as a leftist you are EVER blaming the disadvantaged, the minority, the marginalized, you are doing something wrong.

>>2281288
cope

>>2281295
>Don't need to, we're winning. Right across Eu-ACK!

>>2281295

Looking at the birthrates, in comparison to the "brownoids", I'd say you're the ones on your way out, friendo.

>>2281190
>I'm upset to have my job taken by enslaved workers…
The workers aren't the ones taking your job, the capitalists are.



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