/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>388121
Whoops, didn’t mean to sage

I don't like him per-se but I respect him in a way I respect figures like Mullah Omar, I despise 99% of religious people and don't even find them that interesting but figures like Omar and Cromwell are men of pure will, who truly did believe in what they preached, for better or worse
I can admire that

Well I don't agree with the great man theory and idealism in the /his/ image. The bourgeoisie revolution was inevitable, and probably wouldn't have been meaningfully delayed, even in the Charles wins alternative timeline.

And he's surprised that a king believed in the divine right of kings. Of course he did, that's how (the ruling) ideology works.

>>388191
It was always inevitable, but I doubt any historian even could have predicted a puritan Military dictator
Cromwell didn't make self king cause he believed in Republicanism, rather his religious ideology of "No Kings but Christ" the only people who supported were members of the New Model Army

This is why there should be a better thread archive, because there was a decent thread on this on the old Bunker boards some years ago.

>>387389
It's been that way for awhile, just look at the digital economy. I guess it's even less now because at least the code for a $20 mount in WoW had to be created once.

>>387264
>its money laundering
confirming this
>>387270
>The consumer has purchased a feeling of smug satisfaction.
lol, image related

>>387527
Yes, the value discussed IMO isn’t irrelevant to the process of exchange, but is fundamentally a phenomenon grounded in production. Because it’s not a measure of monetary prices so much as time. The worker has to toil extra time to make the money which feeds their boss.

The LTV is no match for stupidity

>>386597
he's just a nationalist social democrat in the model of Nasser

>>386472
His vice president was a Kurd

>>385506
Divide and rule. If you read about the U.S. relationship to Saddam in between the Iran-Iraq War and the Persian Gulf War, the U.S. was sending diplomats to buddy up with him, and telling him that his border dispute with Kuwait (which apparently involved slant oil drilling) was none of America's concern, because "we also have our experiences with colonialists."

Context there is that Kuwait was split off from Iraq by the British Empire when they were pulling out, so Saddam saw Kuwait as a colonial artifact. But then he invaded Kuwait and gobbled it up, and the U.S. then went to war with Iraq.

The theory that made sense to me about how this happened, is that the U.S. plays this "tilt," "signal" and "lean" game with countries. The U.S. will "tilt" toward one country, and then "tilt" toward a rival to keep everyone off-balance. So, the U.S. backed the Shah, and when he was overthrown, the U.S. switched sides and supported Saddam, encouraging him to attack Iran. Then during the war, the U.S. discretely (until their cover was blown) ran guns to Iran and used the proceeds to pay Nicaraguan Contras in the "Iran-Contra" scandal. Then once the war was over, the U.S. tilted back toward Iraq.

So the question is, did the U.S. sign off on a full-blown invasion of Kuwait or not? One theory is that Saddam misinterpreted the U.S. "signal" or just had enough of America's games. There's no evidence that the U.S. gave the signal for a full-scale invasion, they just said the border dispute / slant drilling stuff was not America's business, signing off on a limited border incursion, but Saddam going for the whole thing embarrassed the Bush administration and, therefore, he had to pay. This is what the U.S. ambassador told Saddam:

>We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American embassy in Kuwait during the late 60s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue, and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction.

Christopher Hitchens also wrote about this back in the day, when he was more of a leftist. It's interesting to read it:

>Saddam quit the game—he’d had it with tilt and sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>386485
You can read about it in William Blum's "Killing Hope" there are a couple of sections on Iraq in it. I would go and find a page reference, maybe I will become bothered. I think there are 2 maybe three chapters (ranging from like 5-10 pages each) on different periods of CIA involvement in Iraq in the that book and it tells the story and is generally pretty well cited so i'm sure its in there. If you really abuse me and call me a liar I might get mad enough to go find the reference but trust its there. I've posted it here before a couple times

You can also watch Michael Parenti say it, although admittedly I haven't seen a source for that video, but when is P daddy wrong? Pretty much never.

>>386485
https://ia803008.us.archive.org/32/items/KillingHope/Killing%20Hope.pdf

Okay so its in here and i was wrong there are 2 specific Iraq chapters but I think Iraq is also included in the "middle east 1957-1958" chapter as well

Moved to >>>/b/108401.

>>382800
>>382806
imagine getting your face fucked 24/sev by a billion mosquitos and blackflies. couldn't be me haha, excuse me while i go get some local amenities within walking distance and take a ride on the robust public transport system

>>382812
After the Great Canadian Proletarian Cultural Revolution you will be marched into the boreal forest at gunpoint to toil alongside the lumberjacks and nickel miners.

>>382818
How would a socialist revolution even work in canada?

>>383513
I'm genuinely curious, considering it seems like the Canadian left is deeply divided on the Quebec question. It's kind of funny how the Canadian Maoists are against Quebec independence while the more moderate parties seem more willing to accept it. If any of you guys would like to discuss it, I'd be very interested hear more about the Canadian left and its various factions and prospects. Also rip the FLQ I guess
t. American who has visited Ontario multiple times, but otherwise knows jack shit

>>382697
t. never had riots on his street

Don't know if it's on youtube but I have the webm. Also next time you ask for things like this make a thread in /b/, this doesn't really deserve its own thread

>>386390
YES, THIS ONE Thank you so much!

>>387841
fuck bro, well RIP cause Afghans are way worse then Syrians
they can survive in the Mountains on there own for decades and they many have heroin addictions and sneak firearms in

Turks hate syrians,it's a fact.

it's honestly shocking to see because most turks have this image of us being a welcoming and warm people and how our ancestors (ottomans) were the most tolerant ppl on the planet etc while absolutely despising syrians lmao

>>387841
'müzeyyen
salak orospu

>>387860
>it's honestly shocking to see
No it's not

Turks hate syrians for legitimately valid reasons. Syrian refugees have a track record of not actually integrating, showing anger towards turks overall for their influence in syria, committing crime as they are an impoverished minority, and having a culture that would've made sense a long time ago but is considered outdated today in turkish society

>>386197
Bargain? No, turkey would love to join the EU but not under EU conditions, the EU stopped the process, but then since NATO attacked many ME countries, Turkey took the refugees, as a process to join the EU. Now the EU doesn't want to take the refugees, and turkey uses them as a political leverage.
It's like you think those refugees came from parachutes from the skies for no reason. Turkey is doing wrong, but they are not alone in the process of creating a refugee population to have a "bargain" or "threatening" tool for eurofools.

>>386709
Turkey is not an EU member.
EU members are: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden.

Some other countries could have multiple treaties beyond simple good relationships.

>>386734
If you have to cope with the millions of refugees turkey has to deal with, I don't think even Germany would be able to have them in homes. Your point about "wE mUsT hAvE tO bUilD hOmeS REEEE" is just a coping situation from liberals worried about those poor immigrants arriving in the le-free world, but of course, they don't care bombing some innocent children in a dusty place they don't have empathy with.

>>383737
I refuse to have sex

>>384389
Why didn't the KGB coup the United States instead?

>>387447
Nice guys to respectable to peace.

>>387137
CIA China hawks, antileftist factions want the current US government to collapse. Of course, many Federal agencies are populated by people with leftist or centrist leanings, some armed or capable of organizing weapons production. They will organize a counter revolution. Military divisions defect etc

Also Mossad psychos would assist right wingers.

>>375290
It wouldn't balkanize along current cultural boarders it would just be what local war lord's would be able to capture, meaning the borders would be geographic and would possibly just be one group taking over the whole country. There's basically no way to predict what the boarders would look like or how many war lord's their'd be because that's highly dependent and how and why the balkanization happens and international reactions to the conflict.

>>386856
there can be no feudalism if there is nothing left. alhamdulilah the only thing america deserves is to sink into the ocean.

>>386908
>Then why are you here?
To shit on your circle jerk bitch.

Leftists don't like sweet things. Leftists are savorychads and bitterchads. Ice cream is cloying decadence.

>>386608
>ywn taste Soviet ice cream
:(

>>386743
Baked chicken is good tho

Chinese celebration of NICD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOmcnlmg7n4