/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2320773
Actual Fed

>>2320914
haul your fatass to the flag store in your fag car

the latest zio falseflag is claiming that iran has sleeper cells all over the US and are going to do a terror attack soon
actual glowie thread

I haven't seen a single person put on nice clothes and fly the American flag. These protests are full of losers who go outside wearing pajama pants and are nonsensically protesting deportation by flying the wrong country flag. Its trivially easy for anyone to say: "If you love Mexico so much, go home"

>>2322074
Like someone else said, an upside down flag or something if you're gonna do that. Just flying the US flag is liable to make you look like a MAGAtard to people toward the left.

>>2322409
Just a red flag tbh would be appropriate. Anything too distinctive is kind of pointless and just draws too much attention to yourself.

>>2324041
>so you cant answer the question?
I did answer your question.You just didn't like the answer because your question was about the modes of production but you meant something else.
>what does socialist commodity production and profit look like?
Here's a nice little essay about it:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1951/economic-problems/ch03.htm
TLDR It looks like if you got rid of the local bourgeoisie but still had to deal with other countries and the leftover social structures that were holding you back from achieving a higher phase communism.

Sorry Ultra, but your perfectly clean, perfectly formed communism will not just happen. You will have to deal with ambiguities as we change modes of production.

>>2324084
He will post dialogue with stalin watch

>>2323984
>right, so they are less efficient

Small business : 10 output in x time per person with 30% waste → 7 produced

Big business : 100 output in x time per person with 40% waste → 60 produced

Also, the waste rate % doesn't need to be more with the small business, 10% of 100 is still more than 20% of 10. And i think small businesses prob waste more in some instances since they mostly chase for local customers while big businesses being present in multiple markets, having better networks for feedbacks etc.

>the fall in profit should cause downsizing, which is the natural market activity. it doesnt destroy companies, it just reallocates resources to more efficient ends.

All the less productive actors which are 'downsized' will be swept away with more productive actors who can pump out more into the markets with more goods who can maintain a steady rate of (general)-profit while the others are hurted more by it.
There are plenty of anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws which try to prevent such stuff as I know ( with either actually forcing different companies to establish a co-monopoly or dividing them )

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Moved to >>>/siberia/678143.

>>2322576
>elites
Stopped reading

>>2322613
Got a problem with the labelling?

>>2322607
>This is entirely compatible with my diagram.
imagine if I just made a circle that said "people" and when confronted with any theory about society I just said "well, my graphic that just says 'people' already includes all of that so your theory is either incorrect or just a subset of what I said"

what your graph describes is the concept of surplus value: a person only needs X amount of things to live, but through their work they can produce Y (where Y > X); then there is surplus value (P) defined as Y - X = P; and now you have that this person, because P exists, can be exploited, even by themselves. all societies since the neolithic have had surplus value, the difference is in how it is produced and then distributed within society

I don't think you understand what communism means. the socialist countries like the ussr do not fit into your graphic because the "elite" (the governing bureaucrats) didn't take surplus value from the workers, they had a salary that in some cases could be higher than that of the regular worker but they were still, at most, 2 or 3 times richer than the regular person

under capitalism you have people whose net worth is millions of times more than the average. this is because their income (the share of surplus value they appropriate) comes from their ownership of capital, to put it simply, let T be the units of time, I the interest for that unit of time and C the amount of capital, their wealth could be define as f(T) = C * I^T which is an exponential function. meanwhile the workers that simply exchange their labor for a wage (W) will have something like g(T) = W*T which is linear and becomes increasingly smaller compared to the other function as T increases

I'm reporting your post for being low quality bait btw

>>2322576
>does not change this structure
Ok Sperglord
>>2322608
> if you do not understand historical materialism, that's okay.
Its really not!

>>2322608
what you said was right… but
>[…] historical materialism […]

I love metaphysics of history I love metaphysics of history I love metaphysics of history I love metaphysics of history I love metaphysics of history I love metaphysics of history

recommended reading:
https://ruthlesscriticism.com/Marxism.htm

https://ruthlesscriticism.com/ML.htm

individual action is meaningless in our world

>>2323532
truth nuke

>>2322172
I wish Solid Snake was real too.

hypothetically, I would tell him to take his own life

>>2323532
Then stop posting faggoy

>>2323424
Thank you for the obligatory identity politics post, we really needed another one of these.

>>2323444
I'm criticizing idpol thoughbeit.

>>2323381
goes crazy hard

>>2323424
>I'm pretty sure he's referring to Jews generally.
liberal zionist detected. They're not talking about jews in general retard, there's jews living in Iran. In the context of the performance they're clearly refering to Israel

Why are you singling out Brazilian right-wingers? These guys are just aping their American counterparts.

>>2323294
oy vey

Dont speculate

>>2323657
Speculate what?

>>2323733
Deez nuts on your chin

>>2323736
comrade stalin, is it you?

>>2322273
I mean lucky for the political left is that the red triangle denoted mostly SPD and KPD members and sympathizers, but I wouldnt use the red triangle over the star of david because of the history.

>>2322275
Sure no reference intended or aware of.

new thread >>2322283

>>2322101
they did

The world without Marx is the world today.

Everyone is Lassallen. Leftists read critique of the gotha program and find themselves agreeing with every position opposed by Marx.

>>2322657
not only that, but many of the ideas attributed to marx were already in circulation before he compiled them in his writings. people weren't so obsessed with authorship and intellectual property back then because they were doing politics, not content

>>2322703
Lasalle fondled you.

ancaps and lolberts can literally only think in hypothetical thought experiments they just made up lol I stg every thread we get from them is some long ass hyper specific scenario they just made up as some gotcha. They really do believe in the Descartes shit where all thats truly real is your own thoughts. still preferable to the tired and cliche porn and jak spam of sharty and /pol/ack bait threads at least.


>>2322697
considering ancap shit is an offshoot of lolbert shit which is an offshoot of libshit I would say this fits pretty nicely into the idealist analysis of all three camps where thoughts control reality and not the other way around. There are no historical,economic and material reasons for violence just mean bad people with mean and bad ideas.

>>2289724
Nothingeverhappeners are burned out of years where things looked like would happen but then nothing ever happened. Now they don't except anything to happen ever, even when things have just happened.

So SNS is now calling the students fascists and nazis. This is after they made a provocation where a group of SNS-aligned youths (the "Students 2.0") with their leader visited the biggest student dorm and got beer cans thrown at them.
They're calling that a "fascistic attack" and now they're pushing a slogan which translates to something like "It's better to be a ćaci than a nazi" (which is seemingly replacing their failed slogan "I'm a ćaci too") and they put a banner on the Nis fortress with that slogan and a swastika, which got a bunch of people mad (because it's not far from where a Nazi concentration camp was in WWII), and it got removed pretty fast by someone from some opposition party.
SNS realized their mistake with the swastika and they made a new banner with that slogan and a crossed-out swastika and put it in front of the Parliament in Belgrade (in the street SNS has been blocking with tents for weeks now) but that one didn't stay up for a long time either, because some opposition parliament members got mad and they cut off the banner with a knife, then they got in an argument with people from the SNS tents then they got arrested for wielding a knife as a weapon or something like that.

kafica cigarica pobedica poyyyy blokaderi foteljasi odrali vas caci

>>2284458
Not a Serb, but I can confirm this. I was walking around late at night in Beograd, and suddenly I saw a bunch of tents blocking a critical road intersection of the city, and a shitton of cops.
So I went to the supermarket that is still open at this time of the night, got some snacks and beer, and when I got out, I saw a bunch of people who looked like students, so I asked them what was going on, and they confirmed to me it was a teacher protest.
They told me the government passed a law or decree reducing the time spent on research by teachers from 50% to 5%, which means it limits their pay to 50€. While Beograd is a relatively cheap city by Western standards, this is an unliveable situation.
They told me the government passed this decree basically illegally or almost, it's a weird legal situation. I told them it's unsustainable for a country to stop doing scientific research, especially when Serbia is more or less known for having very good education, but it's basically a power play.
More importantly, they told me the teachers will stay there for as long as needed to get what they want. To me, this sounded kinda funny at first, but this is actually ballsy. The protest seemed rather peaceful, because in several other countries, they would have been kettled and suffocate in a cloud of tear gas. But then, during another day when I wanted to see a few buildings bombed by NATO (holy shit, can't describe how I felt when I saw this), I passed by the camp, and damn, it's hot as fuck in this country, and they were still there, and the camp was much larger than I initially thought. And when you have 5000 dinars for the month, well you better spend them well collectively. I think some students offered them food, mutual aid stuff.

The students confirmed another few things discussed in this thread: the use of a LRAD, the sketchy contract regarding the canopy in Novi Sad. And it's true that a couple of public squares were blocked with tents with almost no one in there, what a weird sight to behold. One in particular had barriers coated with some strange orange substance that is probably a kind of glue. A few people were hanging around in this one big park, but they had to pass a police check I believe.

I also saw students in front of an university building, but I didn't feel like asking them questions, cops were fucking everyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2322634
It seems very 2011-esque

>The IDF has called on the world not to remain silent about the Iranian attack.
>"The citizens of Israel are currently under direct attack from the Iranian regime. The world must not remain silent about this."

holly shit, they are scared.

>>2321343
is it bad that I believed it for a while?

>>2321303
The world these people live in is so exciting.

>>2321333
very memeable

>>2321275
That doesn't look like an F35. More line a Mirage 2000.