/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2665240
>Marx, Engels and Lenin called all this shit petit-bourgeois reform
no they didnt you fucking moron, because they knew reform couldnt give this to people, only socialism could

>middle-classes
what is it with braindead people pretending to know theory while obviously never having bothered to read a single book?

It's over

>>2668230
>reform couldnt give this to people, only socialism could
the "this" in question is shit that happens in plenty of capitalist countries already 😂😂

<still getting triggered over the use of "middle class"
way to self-report retard. even marx used the term several times

>>2665179
your posts are not even 1% the quality of the people you attack

>>2668556
>shitting your diapers and moralizing over this
theres no quality to be found in people who just spout endless shit to further their own careers

Trinidadians Sue US for Caribbean Boat Bombing That Killed Relatives ‘In Cold Blood’
Relatives of two Trinidadian men killed during the Trump administration’s internationally condemned bombing spree against boats allegedly transporting drugs in the Caribbean Sea filed a wrongful death lawsuit Tuesday against the United States.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/relatives-sue-over-boat-strikees

FBI to investigate Minneapolis activists after far-right claim about Signal chats
Patel used the podcast of another rightwing personality, Benny Johnson, to break the news. Higby had posted on Sunday on X that he had “infiltrated” a group chat on Signal, the widely used communication app that offers effective encryption, populated by anti-ICE organizers in Minneapolis. Higby’s posts appear to show communication between Minneapolis activists in vehicles trying to locate and share the descriptions and license plates of potential ICE vehicles. He argued that the chats have “the sole intention of tracking down federal agents and impeding/assaulting/and obstructing them”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/27/minneapolis-fbi-signal-investigation-kash-patel

GOP pitches student loan repayment amid affordability struggles
Republicans say their new repayment policies focus on the borrowers who need the most help, debt cancellation is unfair to people without student loans and that the latest financial strain and mixed messages are former President Joe Biden’s fault. But that hasn’t obscured the fact that student loan bills are piling up ahead of a midterm election where concerns about the cost of living could flip majorities in Congress.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/26/gop-pitches-student-loan-repayment-amid-affordability-struggles-00743153
https://archive.ph/aBCqN

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No, Tim Walz and AOC, the National Guard Won’t Save Us
On the heels of mass protests demanding justice for those killed by federal agents and demanding ICE out of our communities, the capitalist state has escalated its assault with Customs and Border Protection (CBP) executing ICU nurse Alex Pretti in broad daylight. In response, Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller posted on X, “A would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement and the official Democrat account sides with the terrorists.” Meanwhile on Truth Social, Donald Trump called Pretti a gunman, justifying the killing and attacking various Democrats. Republicans are digging in their heels, maintaining that these federal forces can kill anyone that protests them, even in legal ways, like filming. They’re showing the public how the state can commit whatever type of violence it likes, when it likes. Democrats, meanwhile, have responded with assurances that the state, through government channels, will fight this murder. During his press conference, Minnesota governor Tim Walz tried to pacify the masses fighting back in the streets, urging peaceful protest — despite the fact that he saw the same video many others did, where Pretti was being peaceful, yet killed execution style after being beaten by a gang of CBP agents.
https://www.leftvoice.org/no-tim-walz-and-aoc-the-national-guard-wont-save-us/

Exclusive: Leaked “Board of Peace” Resolution Outlines U.S.-Led Plan to Rule Over Gaza
The so-called Board of Peace that President Donald Trump officially launched in Davos, Switzerland last week is developing sweeping plans for a U.S.-backed administration to rule Gaza, according to a draft of the Board’s resolution. Drop Site obtained the unsigned document, which is dated January 22, 2026 and titled “Resolution No. 2026/1,” from three independent sources, all of whom are in regular contact with U.S. and Israeli authorities regarding Gaza reconstruction. The sources confirmed that its contents align with ongoing discussions in Israel and the U.S. about the implementation of planned governance structures for the Strip. The resolution, which is the first of its kind from the Board of Peace, details the structure of a U.S.-backed governing authority that would assume full legislative, exPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2648616
it's "seize power"
BTW we usually only name major updates after people who won something. Practice proves theory… what proves Gramsci correct?

>>2663372
That the fascists read his work and proceeded to completely curb stomp socialism with psyops and other active measures.

>>2648616
>Granscianism is the most recent "update" to Marxism after Leninism
leninism isnt a thing and gramscianism definitely isnt a thing either lmao

I think a big issue is conceptualizing Marxism in terms of software with “updates” and that it’s a matter of going through the old files to figure out what’s causing the system to crash instead of trying to develop new theories and argue them using the tools we already have.

>>2668424
>CPUSAtard thinks the proletarian movement depends on developing even more new theories just because (literally "publish or perish" university mentality)
try not conceiving of communism as something external to the proletariat first. we definitely dont need even more moron academics trying to carve their own niche bullshit theories that have nothing to do with communism

you really have to start questioning people when shit like this gets passed around. capitalism, a most mysterious thing, that requires a new theory every year to explain it!

>>2652564
Finally a decent post in an otherwise questionable thread
>despite exploiting the tariff situation like Carney and Albanese did.
I'm curious to know how in your view Albanese has put the tariff situation to good use, aside from attempting (so far rather fruitlessly) to secure some concessions for the steelmaking and aluminium industries as well as agriculture, he has been far more meek and willing to turn the other cheek about the whole thing than Carney has.

Is leftypol banned in Singapore? I haven't seen anyone from Singapore here

>>2652564
>Nor is Singapore an amazing place to be in right now. The neoliberalisation has left the city state with low TFR on par with South Korea and Hong Kong. And this is already with constant immigration and Malay minority, the native chinese and indian would be even lower. Rising living costs and declining economic power has meant that the PAP couldn't make any gains against the Workers Party, despite exploiting the tariff situation like Carney and Albanese did. Ironic that LKY spent decades ranting about welfarism only to have the current Prime Minister be called Voucher Wong for his constant reliance on government vouchers and stimulus spending. PAP even gives out free groceries as 'political campaigning'. The economic miracle of Singapore for Singaporeans is over. I doubt any local neoliberal or fascist would be happy with the sober reality now.

this is pretty much the same path japan, korea, and taiwan went. Lol

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good posts

>>2667529
I get the impression that Singaporeans are live in a weird bubble and are very mentally strait-jacketed for the most part. They can't see anything outside their carefully curated and hypercompetitive culture of their authoritarian city-state.

>>2660051
>Given that, when can we expect China to implement global socialism?

the chinese are not your kitchen boys you lazy shit
fight for your liberation yourself
the gall on you, you will sit with funko pop in your ass, gulp starbucks and play video games while other people have to toil and present socialism on a silver platter for you
fuck you treatlerite scum

>>2667450
>There are plenty of metals for which China does not have sufficient domestic deposits to supply its industry.
The metals being discussed in these trade papers are not those metals.

>Food delivery and taxis isn't exactly the most useful area of automation.
This is short-sighted. The real-world mobility problem is *the* present holy grail of robotics. Real-world mobility with the potential to adapt to any environment and sense and target things in the environment immediately is how you become capable of automating things like warehouses, farms, businesses, homes, construction, mining, and anything that specifically isn't an assembly line. Solving this problem is actually the single *largest* leap towards total automation. Elon Musk isn't wrong at all in saying that if he solves real-world mobility with Tesla, he can plug it into Optimus and start making personal robots. He isn't going to be the one to do it, though, because his approach to the solution is a terrible one. If you're a big believer in automation being the future of socialism, I would suggest looking into this topic further to really get a handle on the current state of robotics development and what's still needed to automate humanity's drudgery.


>But prosperous automated socialism in one country is already a bigger step than what has happened so far, which is prosperous socialism nowhere.
Perhaps, but this is a thread about China ushering in *global* socialism. I do not think this js something that they're interested in doing. I'm actually not even certain that they're all that interested in internal socialism either, considering their social classes are quite stratified.

>having a socialist society where truly nobody is poor will deal a massive ideological blow to the global conception of "socialism is when tyranny" or "socialism is when everybody starves equally"
I don't disagree, but again, I don't see any evidence that they're open to moving in this direction. I also think that excusing exploitative global resource extraction because it's going to a socialist state is probably not the best line of thought, especially if the countries doing the extracting don't really see much of a difference selling to China over Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

They don't even have socialism in China, you want them to export it?!

socialism is when dirigsme

>>2660051
None of this understands the fundamental town-country contradiction underlying imperialism. With the development of communications and remote work you can hire an engineer in the imperial periphery for a fraction of the cost. The centralization of mental labor in the town and physical labor in the country is increasingly obsolete. Consequently, China simply cannot centralize mental labor and rely on physical labor abroad. I am unsure how imperialism will evolve as the town-country contradiction sharpens to increasing absurdity in the age of remote work.

>>2666088
>Reddit is shit I know. But I'm not gonna build an entire platform just to experiment. If the model proves it has some viability then sure, collaborative labour without market relations would be a perfect project to build.

https://join-lemmy.org/
https://lemmy.ml/

You might not need to do that.
Going on lemmy might attract more serious people.

I dont think this is gonna work
Social media is literally designed as a market, maybe if it were its own site id think its otherwise but its a subreddit

>>2666366
I'll check it out, thanks.
>>2666369
Social media is a tool, that has been in many cases captured by the market. No different than the printing press was captured by religious institutions.

It's a subreddit right now, the idea is to test the viability of coordinated non market production, using social media as a facilitator.
If it it proves viable, a standalone non corporate platform would be an obvious project to collaborate and build.

>>2666071
Anon let me help you with one issue you have:
"social production" means production that is done not for individual use but for use by members of society as a whole, such as commodity production
"individual production" is when you cook a meal for your family. It's production for the producer, not for wider society

Feudalism engaged heavily in individual production. Capitalism turns production into social production by alienating us from the means of laboring for ourselves and compelling us to labor in a system of commodity production. If your goal is not co-ops, and isn't expropriating existing productive forces, then it seems like you want people to engage in individual production. People already do this, but the reason it's not dominant anymore is because we don't all live on self-sustaining homesteads. We work jobs and that takes the majority of our time and energy. If the goal is socialized production, then I ask why anyone would want to do this for free, outside of their hobbies and charitable work, which I assume they're already pursuing if interested and don't need to be convinced to pursue.

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>>2667496
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Damn, I made a post but it is lost. Something to do with all the moderators of the board are useless loser faggots. Anyways. Martin Luther based protestantism off of Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity. Go look it up. Fuck the mods.

>>2667436
>we achieved lower stage socialism but still need 10000 years of commodity production to reach communism
Okay? Literally unrelated to how Stalin falsified dotp to make it lower stage

>>2667438
>Muh semantics
Ok don't listen to me then. Keep being confused

Did 'strengthening proletarian ties' include, forcing united fronts on international parties, allying with nazis, allying with western colonialists, abolishing the Comintern to appease said colonialists, establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, etc?

>>2667440
>semantics
Nice cope pseudo. If only this distinction wasn't the whole reason Marx broke with the left and the Comintern was later established

>>2667443
You asked me a question, I answered it, then you just restate the question differently. The only pseud here is you, Marx didn't break with the left over the distinction between socialism as the mop and socialism as the state ideology of a post revolutionary dotp. He broke with various groups for various different reasons, disagreement over utopianism, reformism, idealism, etc. The comintern was established to further the goals of international revolution and again, break from reformists and their ilk. None of that has anything to do with your confusion regarding mop and post rev dotp both being called "socialism"

>>2666225
"Imperial core" is marxist analysis tho

>>2665334
>epistemology
erm chuddy thats philosophy and marx was very critical of it so that means communists should never engage in that stuff o algo

>>2666241
Proof?

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>>2665454
I think it's wrong to consider identity oppressions "non-class based", because if you're rich enough you can avoid them. A proletarian woman is expected to have a job, raise a kid, feed her family, and do a majority of the housework. A bourgeois woman can simply hire a maid, doordash every meal, and have a lucrative career or not depending on her whims. A black man from a poor area will be profiled as "gang-affiliated" just based on family and neighborhood ties, railroaded into jail, and once out may have work requirements that force him to take the first job available and not leave when working conditions are bad, pay is low, wages are stolen, etc., might not be able to vote, might have debt to the prison that compounds interest and for which the state garnishes wages, etc. A bourgeois black man avoids all of this, and his worst oppression is that the guys at the country club make offensive jokes.

Within the proletariat there are strata, and these are influenced heavily by identities like race, sex, and nationality, among others. If we attack and alleviate certain policies that keep some proletarians down based on one of these identities, we are attacking the exploitation of the working class. Just like if we form a union and strike for better conditions. It doesn't raise up all the working class at once, but it does alleviate some of the oppression bit by bit. It also equalizes things within the working class, making it easier for us to unite. Right now it's hard for a white person, without intentionally educating themselves on these systems, to understand and feel solidarity with the level of oppression that non-whites face. It's difficult for men to unite with women when women's extra labor allows their comfort. So both in the communist spirit of serving the most exploited and oppressed, and out of practical necessity, the systems and cultural norms that enforce these divides within the working class need to be attacked by communists. The division of the working class into strata, some higher and some lower, makes traitors of those in higher strata, or at best makes them comfortable and slow to act in solidarity with the more oppressed strata. This is just the reality. White men tend to be more conservative, and black womPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2665011
Make demands so extreme that the Democrats don't want to deal with you anymore.

>>2667382
Mods aren’t automatically right just because they say so, are CEOs and cops proletarian?

>>2667382
this retarded rule is just an overcorrection from when hazoids were spamming this hole and those larpers havent been relevant for months now

>>2667385
amerilards still doing the "we are the 99%!" bullshit in 20 fucking 26 apparently lmao

>>2667385
CEOs is a job not a class. COP is a job not a class.