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Question for “Christian anarchists”:

Why do you deny Jesus came to earth to establish a government? Why do you act as if religion wasn’t fully intertwined with the state and all religious institutions were de facto government institutions, and that the Church in which Jesus established was meant to be a government?

If not, what did Jesus leave behind? A Bible that wasn’t fully compiled and finalized until centuries after His death by… the Catholic/Orthodox Church?

And yes, the Church is both a spiritual AND earthly authority, so please don’t come at me with the “Jesus was only against earthly hierarchies not spiritual ones” cope.
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>>2527476
No one is genuinely religious in the 21st century outside of schizophrenics, it’s all just culture and the social contract

>>2527476
>You literally need to believe in God and the divinity of Jesus in order to be a Christian.

No, you don't. You can define it however you see fit, that's the whole secret to religion is everyone really just makes it up themselves. Ask a thousand people what being a Christian/Jew/Muslim/Hindu/etc. means to them personally and you will get a thousand different answers.

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>>2526601
bruh, I can't. Sorry for shitposting.

REAL ASS TAKE OF THE WEEK

religion can be interpreted in any way because it's all bullshit anyway, so there is no need to fight christian anarchists or christian socialists, whatever reason you have to be a radical left winger is cool and helps.




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What's their fucking problem? Their membership ranges from genuine MLs all the way to reactionary rejects. Do they think the way to build communism is to adopt all the worst and most aggravating positions held by the now defunct black hammer?
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>>2521682
>It's the weird religious fundamentalists, from Muslims to tradcaths. ACP needs to kick them out asap if they want to be taken seriously at all.
but chairman haz is religious

>>2521696
>mentally ill blue haired baristas
ok lol

>>2521682
>i know they have red fascists and clerical fascists in their ranks, but they are objectively superior to other "communist parties"
holy brainrotted

>>2520924
>smartest leninist.
<The form of capitalist society in which the bourgeoisie rules by open, terroristic violence against the people, as opposed to bourgeois democracy. As an extreme form of bourgeois nationalist rule, fascism often also includes rabid forms of racism, often to the point of genocide. The most vicious and notorious example was Nazi Germany (1933-1945).
All capitalist countries have at least some elements of fascism, to one degree or another, and to the extent that the bourgeoisie thinks these elements are “necessary” in order to maintain their rule. Nevertheless, we call those countries which allow relatively more freedoms of speech, of the press, of association, and allow at least some mass protest bourgeois democracies, while those countries which have few if any such freedoms we call fascist.
https://massline.org/Dictionary/FA.htm

“Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital.” —Statement of the Enlarged Executive of the Communist International, Moscow, 1933.

Fascism is imperialism in it's most reactionary form.
All imperialist societies contain elements of fascis

>>2521696
>The only non-ACP communists I've seen in my city have been mentally ill blue haired baristas wearing Marx shirts and Trotoids selling newspapers
<Muh baristas
Of the few communists I've ever encountered, zero were baristas, and it wouldn't even matter if they were. And I doubt you go outside at all, because how in the hell would you even determine this? This just sounds like the bitter imaginings of an anti-social youth who lives in a world of hypothetical interactions, who spends every moment rationalizing his assumptions on life to himself.
>Meanwhile ACP are on the streets working with the people that's how I know about them
I've never seen this. I'm a tradesman.



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
>Dictatorship of the Spectacle Edition
ZA HASANU, ZA BURGURU
Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2527553
no, they have lower rates because they're in less developed societies

>>2527598
by your own logic you're wrong, you've only done the "legal" stuff, and you've yet to do the "illegal" stuff, you're a poser who just wants to feel good while you jerk off to the idea of your imagined enemies being killed while doing nothing than imagining yourself as the next lenin, get in line pal, you're nothing special

>>2527634
I’m a USSR defender but they failed, they couldn’t over come U.S. hegemony. You can cry unfair all you want but nobody said the bourgeoisie would play fair. So the only conclusion is that either Marxism-Leninisim is a dead end that can only achieve rapid industrialization and national liberation (Worthwhile goals and extremely impressive results imo) acting as a shortcut for semi-feudal societies to leap frog and create the conditions for a bourgeois class to emerge. Or the U.S just makes communism impossible so only revolution here will achieve communism, and any attempts by the periphery are pointless.

>>2527651
yeah you're right, China's doing it, but its just the nature of the state to never be fully be 100% ideologically captured by a political party at any one time, even a one party state

>>2527624
it was still quite enough a difference to matter though.



 

I'd rather see Haz sperg out because at least he's right, or just not this wrong. I hate the moralism of this, because these spergs act so smug but are so wrong on very basic questions. When tankies are wrong it's stupid and funny, they don't necessarily think they're superior, but when the libleft is wrong they're smug assholes about it. People in the third world can't just set up some anarchist free love commune, they actually have to chose something.
The thing these people can't understand and their fundamental philosophical defect is that when Mao said all political power grows from the barrel of a gun, he didn't mean it in just a literal sense, but metaphorically, that to do politics requires power, and for guys like this any power automatically becomes state violence. It's the same reason the NAP is a logical fallacy.(/isg/)
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>>2526752
So true, return to warlords taking wives from peasents after burning and pillaging their villages

Daily reminder to radlibs that all the brown people are fash. Time to bash da fash, like your good friend Biden did and Trump is scaling up!

Anarchism only appeals to westerners for a reason. All anarchists in the third world are the children of urban elites.

>>2526752
>this is your brain on LARPaganism

>>2526745
Duhhh anon, the whole reason for their belief system is so that they can feel morally superior and smug. It's not about coming to some understanding and trying to change it for the better, it's about being the most morally righteous. It's probably a holdover from Christian cultural brainwashing. They are morally correct and you are basically an apostate/ fascist to them, ie a person who disagrees with them, actually opposes the status quo and/or is mean



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For one big example, Look at all that had to happen for the Bolsheviks to succeeded
>WW1
>Nicholas making the decision to go to the front line to lead the troops
>The February Revolution
>Kerensky re-entering Russia into WW1
>Kerensky's government collapsing because he tried to orchestrate a coup on himself and then double crossed the Army by arming red militias in petrograd
>The liberals giving the Bolsheviks(among other parties) guns to help stop the Army from overthrowing the provisional government.
>The other socialist parties(which were more popular) believing Lenin would reinstall the constituent assembly
>When the SRs did rise up they refused to execute captured bolshevik officers or do much of anything.
>When the Petrograd sailors rebelled they sat on their island printing newspapers hoping that the people of Russia would realize Lenin was a big meaniehead and get rid of him.

Obviously the future is not a wide-open blank slate where anything can happen. Even massive upheavals like the First World War had observable conditions. But the way it unfolded(with Belgium being invaded and Britain, followed by America, entering the conflict) was due to random chances and the decisions of a handful of individuals.
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>>2290660
>Lenin was a ch-ACK!
YWNBTRMTATPSOT

>>2290636
>i'm a socialist but

>>2490704
>No future American president can ever unbreak what Trump has already destroyed in the first eight months of his presidency
wtf i love trump now

>>2367946
"Lenin is condemned by modern Trotskyist PMC history 😏"…"🫨 wait no, you have to ignore the satanic New World Order of pedophile globalists who force children to spend hundreds of dollars to buy those history textbooks from the Zionist agent Robert Maxwell. We need to talk about pre-1992 history actually, REEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

>>2491487
>Robert Maxwell
Who?



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>Communism is the real movement that abolishes the present state of things. It is a living science that must be checked against real-world material conditions and adjusted accordingly
>Karl Kautsky is a dirty revisionist! REVISIONIST REVISIONIST! HE SULLIED THE SACRED NAME OF MARX!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Why are Leninists so fucking stupid? For reference, Kautsky was Engels' direct intellectual heir.
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>>2473291
>fuck the guy who oversaw the most successful socialist revolution in world history, creating a socialist republic lasting decades and incorporating dozens of nations
The weimar republic wasn't that good.
>actually this social democrat who helped hand the actual nazis power with his liberal reformism bullshit is the ONE TRUE LEFTIST HEIR OF KING ENGELS
It's true that the ex USSR is run by nazia

>>2464292
u talk as if vol. 2 and 3 of capital and theories of surplus value didn't exist

Why does lenin look like a black man here?

>>2469677
>>2524910
I think it's shooped

>>2461276
>ayo, bourgeois crakkka, look at me when i be talkin to you



 

Lol, shit liberals say
"
I think everyone knows, but keep eyes open for provocateurs. Protectors of the philes will be out there, and they will take ANY opportunity to escalate things in a peaceful protest"

Hate libs so much

They're not wrong that glowies will show up encouraging random violence at protests. No useful communist is going to just show up and start telling people to be violent lol. Militancy requires discipline.



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Both the left and the right-wing of capital, liberals and conservatives, complain about cultural languages dying out. But it's not some pure past you can hang onto with pride, it's the result of how societies evolve through their economic and productive systems. There's nothing sacred about it and, frankly, the fewer languages acting as a barrier to a global proletariat the better. If you want to learn a dead language so much you can do it on your own time thanks to the internet these days.
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>>2503444
Flattening/Abolishing the Reactionary Gender Binary by forcing all Women to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter), Banning Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/lipstick, replacing Reactionary “Natural” Childbirth with Artificial Wombs, and forcing everyone to wear Mao Suits (Capitalist Business suits are Banned as well), is extremely Historically Progressive as it will both liberate Women from the Reactionary Superstructural chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, and dramatically reduce the rates of Gender Dysphoria, with the caveat that Sex Changes will be Free and Legal if you still really want one so it is the Dialectical opposite of Transphobia, and Flattening/Abolishing the Reactionary Gender Binary will simultaneously eliminate the Superstructural basis of Sexism, Transphobia, Homophobia, and Patriarchy, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!


>>2503473
there is no evidence that androgyny would work to alleviate gender dysphoria from transfems "dramatically" as you claim

the reality is it would just hurt those of us who need the expression for a feminine identity

Also what about trans girls who dont feel like they look like a girl with short hair

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>>2503473
you are not abolishing the gender binary, you are reinforcing it by implementing different rules for the two genders
>forcing all Women to have extremely short hair
men can grow long hair too btw
>replacing Reactionary “Natural” Childbirth with Artificial Wombs
i highly agree with this though. what will you do to the bourgeois family structure?

>>2503473
As a hvn myself, I must say, this is slave morality and I don't want to look like the fusion between a karen and a larper; As shitty as things are you're best of just permablitzing and living an otherwise normal life.

>>2467072
.i xu do .o'onai tavla fo lo jbobau?
Toki pona! sina toki ala toki e ni? Pakala!?
*Whatever the fvck you'd say in ithkuil*



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How many protests with millions of people does it take for liberals to realize that protesting accomplishes practically nothing? It is legitimately baffling to me that they seemingly never realize that.
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>>2526423
>Though im sure people are trying to use them to organize it's not easy
It never works out because that people that go to protests are not those interested in long term organization. You said so yourself, it's a psychological relief not as a first method of struggle (if you can call protests/demonstrations that are just walks with little to no political substancr).

Who actually went to those protests breh

>>2526295
>>2526349
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>2526467
Idk things have happened as a result of protests/marches in the past, but they do seem pretty much dead in the water in the current day it's true

You are assuming that liberals want to change something
They just want to brunch



 

Gaza rights group documents 129 Israeli ceasefire violations since truce began
PCHR said Israel was persisting in "its policy of collective punishment and genocide against Palestinians", and called for an immediate and permanent end to the assault and for Israel to be held accountable under international law. Hamas also condemned the attack, urging US President Donald Trump and ceasefire mediators to pressure Israel to stop its violations.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-commits-129-ceasefire-violations-gaza-truce-began

Rafah border crossing to stay closed ‘until further notice’, says Israel
Hamas has said it is committed to the ceasefire deal, but that the retrieval of remains is hampered by the devastation and the presence of unexploded ordnance. The group has told mediators that some remains are in areas controlled by Israeli troops. Hamas, in turn, has urged mediators to increase the flow of humanitarian aid into Gaza for its 2 million people. There are continued closures of crossings and Israeli restrictions on aid groups.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/18/rafah-border-crossing-to-stay-closed-until-further-notice-says-israel

Sunni candidate's office attacked in Baghdad
Muthanna Thaer al-Azzawi, a member of the Baghdad Provincial Council and a candidate from the Azm Alliance, said his office came under a "cowardly attack" in Baghdad's Yusufiyah district. … On Wednesday, another candidate vying for a seat in the parliament was assassinated in Baghdad. Safaa al-Mashhadani, who also served on Baghdad’s Provincial Council, was running on the Sunni Arab Sovereignty-Legislation Alliance ticket.
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/181020251

US returning Caribbean strike survivors to Colombia and Ecuador, Trump says
Both men have arrived home, according to authorities from the two South American countries. "We have received the Colombian detained on the narco submarine, wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

‘No Kings’ protests against Trump bring a street party vibe to cities nationwide
People carrying signs with slogans such as “Nothing is more patriotic than protesting” or “Resist Fascism” packed into New York City’s Times Square and rallied by the thousands in parks in Boston, Atlanta and Chicago. Demonstrators marched through Washington and downtown Los Angeles and picketed outside capitols in several Republican-led states, a courthouse in Billings, Montana, and at hundreds of smaller public spaces.
https://apnews.com/article/no-kings-rallies-demonstrations-trump-4baa5de2fab057a0e6ab726f5d7747fd

US Senate poised to approve industry lobbyist to lead chemical safety at EPA
Troutman is currently the chief lobbyist for the American Cleaning Institute, a trade group representing cleaning product manufacturers including BASF, Dow and Procter & Gamble. If approved, he would oversee the EPA’s office of chemical safety and pollution prevention.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/18/senate-epa-confirmation-douglas-troutman-lobbyist

California labor leader’s felony charge over immigration protest is reduced
David Huerta had been charged with obstruction, resistance or opposition to a federal officer — a class A felony, according to a Friday filing by Acting U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli in federal court. However, prosecutors filed a proposed order Saturday seeking dismissal without prejudice of the original felony charge of conspiracy to impede an officer.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-los-angeles-protest-huerta-union-arrest-36f2ad59b7babd67969b89148a29fe90

Vermont Lawmaker Resigns Over Racist Messages in Republican Group Chat
He issued a lengthy statement laying out his reasons for resigning, saying, in part: "I know that this decision will upset many, and delight others, but in this political climate I must keep my family safe. And if my GoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

We Shut Elbit Down! Reflections from the Cambridge, Massachusetts Campaign Against Elbit Systems
Elbit Systems is Israel’s largest weapons manufacturer. On September 8, 2021, Elbit announced it would open an “Innovation Center” in Cambridge, Massachusetts for its subsidiary company KMC Systems. The Innovation Center lasted less than three years before activists forced it to close. Last year’s early-lease termination of the KMC office is the first time that activists in the United States have forced Elbit Systems to close a facility. It is also one of the few successes that the US Palestine solidarity movement has achieved since the beginning of the genocide in Gaza in 2023. This anonymously submitted analysis explores the year-long targeted direct action campaign that successfully evicted KMC Systems from Cambridge.
https://crimethinc.com/2025/10/10/we-shut-elbit-down-reflections-from-the-cambridge-massachusetts-campaign-against-elbit-systems

"Moscow and Tel Aviv: "Anti-Imperialism" is an Aesthetic" - Internationalist Workers’ Group (2025)
Russian president Vladimir Putin commented that “Israel is almost a Russian-speaking country” in a press release when he was asked why Russia would not be providing Iran with military aid. This may surprise some observers when Russia, which is in an alliance of convenience with Iran, didn't provide direct military support in the wake of IAF air strikes and indiscriminate missile and drone barrages primarily targeting Tehran which displaced millions and killed thousands of workers in Iran. During the “12 day war” on June 13-25th, 2025 which saw the USA act as a direct belligerent alongside Israel against Iran and carried out a coordinated attack on Iran’s Fordow’s plant with bunker buster munitions, which had minimal impact and didn't knock out Iran’s uranium enrichment capabilities. Putin responded by proclaiming Russia’s historical solidarity within the Middle East, but that there's over 2 million Russians living in Israel and that Russia has already done enough. Putin also responded that Russia already defends Iran’s right to have a nuclear power program and had built reactors in Iran, have contracts to build two more and lastly that Russia hasn't evacuated diplomatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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