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>Liberal society likes to separate things into the “private sector” and “the government/state sector” when in reality private enterprise are forms of local governance that are recognized and defended by the state, and thus are ultimately part of the state and not separate from it. A more coherent analysis would be to separate society into the autocratic and the democratic sector, as this is more close to what is meant when Marxists talk about public vs private property.

>To own something means to have a say in its use, and so for a sector to be genuinely public it must be democratic, the working masses have to have input. Nationalization thus does not necessarily mean the transfer from private to public property. The state can still operate property privately. Even if the state nationalizes everything, it is still capitalism if it is still operated at the behest of private interests and not for the masses.

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7249654/6071787

The China simps on lemmygrad convinced themselves private property is state property. You can't make this shit up.
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>>2190041
fuck off Lassale

>>2190044
Done it again.

>>2190039
Stalin never surpassed Lenin in anything except life span
>>2190027
True. This made him better than most others when it came to revolution. Especially the Americans.

>>2189803
The text quoted has a good point and OP is an anti-proletarian faggot who should martyr himself.

>>2190041
> Moffy > TransStrasserism
Ty



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Through their actions they have
>inspired millions of proletarians and non bourgeoisie citizens to show open anger and disgust against the rich
>brazenly advertised the presence and open government support of fascism which pushed even more people against the American regime
>trashed the US bourgeoise government and its cops in the minds of even the lumpen completely
>and sabotaged American hegemony through isolationist and ultranationalist garbage, openly supporting Russian expansionism in Ukraine, and sabotaging the regime’s economic expansion

The anger is only growing the scale of anti bourgeoise violence is only growing. Like fuck, I have to thank these idiots for being so brazen and incompetent about everything. Under Biden, people didn’t notice the far higher deportation rates under his watch. With these idiots, we might actually see a national level demonstration against the Us Federal government this year.
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>>2189234
Yeah, they and the illiterate hordes of idiots can do the job of destroying the United States for me. Good fucking riddance to that country’s economy and its shitty politics.

Now the rest of the planet gets an even bigger chance to heal.

I'm tired of Menchevists and Bordigists in leftypol dressing as Bolsheviks

>>2189290
>menchevists
>bordigists
>bolsheviks
none of these exist anymore. it's just historical terms people larping as revolutionaries in a post revolutionary age use in their sad pathetic no-effective-direct-action larp that usually starts in their teens and ends by the time they're 30

stop pretending you're a t rex and your enemies are brontosauruses

go kill some porkies or stfu

>b-but doing stuff is adventurism. I'm not allowed to do anything until I've read every single html file on marxists.org and once I do things they have to be true to the spirit of the entire marxist-leninist canon which definitely never contradicts itself


bleak

>>2189763
>none of these exist anymore. it's just historical terms people larping as revolutionaries in a post revolutionary age use in their sad pathetic no-effective-direct-action larp that usually starts in their teens and ends by the time they're 30

Umm, idk. Most political larpers are usually older than you think

>>2189763
>none of these exist anymore.
Nationalists putting geopolitics above class struggle are mensheviks.



 

>a chinese international student just showed up to our trot party's meeting in a store-bought PLA uniform                                                                                                                             
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welcome them. they're their to L your P

>trot party
ngmi

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>>2189528
Id be wearing shit like this all the time tbh so I don't blame them

Based chinese fella just make the party meeting 1000x time more relevant.




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From Jack F. Matlock’s Reagan and Gorbachev

>I was able to observe Brezhnev at ceremonial functions in the spring and summer of 1981 when I was in charge of the American embassy in Moscow. He was not only incapable of speaking without a script, but often had trouble reading even simple texts. Moscow intellectuals would joke about the leader's condition. One prominent writer regaled us over dinner with Brezhnev imitations. One of them went as follows:

>Brezhnev goes to the airport to greet Margaret Thatcher. When she come out of the plane, he goes forward, looks at the paper in his hand, and reads "Welcome, Indira Gandhi!". Gromyko, standing beside him, whispers, "Not Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher”. Brezhnev looks at the paper again and repeats, "Welcome Indira Gandhi "Margaret Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher. Gromyko prompts, voice rising. Brezhnev turns to him and, waving his script, says. "I know she is Margaret Thatcher, but it says here Indira Gandhi”.
>This was only a slight exaggeration. When Brezhnev was seeing off a visiting chief of state at the VIP airport terminal west of Moscow, he and Gromyko walked past a group of journalists there covering the event. One called out in Russian, "How did the meeting go?" The voice was loud and clear but Brezhnev did not understand. The journalist repeated the question, even louder. Brezhnev turned to Gromyko, walking beside him, and asked, “Chto on skazal?" (What'd he say?). Gromyko replied, "Skazhi khonosho” (Just say fine). Brezhnev thereupon turned to the journalists and, face beaming with the satisfaction of a person who has just solved an intricate puzzle said, "Khorosho. Khorosho" (Fine. Fine).



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What's the only correct take on the Russia - Ukraine war?

Why do some western leftists treat Ukraine as the Palestine from the Eastern Europe when they collaborated with nazis a great part of the WWII against the USSR?

Do they simply chose to ignore that it's a country fully ridden of Banderites and the blatant anti-communism that has been a great part of their culture since the beginning of the 19th century?
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How I sleep knowing the historical aberration called the ukraine is headed for the dustbin of history

>>2185537
crickets

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>>2185647
respond to the image

>>2189207
same when I think of russian oligarchs

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>>2180257
<You know millions of Ukrainians fought in the Red Army right including Zelensky's grandfather
Ofc the manlets Grandpa fought the Nazis, absolutely disgusting…



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>people say pakistan was the one supplying the taliban with arms and goods during the US occupation
>but during a recent radio war nerd episode they said the pakistani government hates the taliban because of border disputes and the taliban's support for the baloch insurgency

Why was pakistan supporting the taliban from 2001-2021 in the first place again?

>>2189691
>from 2001-2021 in the first place
They weren't. Pakistan supported islamists behind the curtains to deflect them from its own more secular gov with US as an ally during the cold war, effectively exporting them. When cold war was over Taliban inevitably turned against Pakistani because there were no more enemies of Islam except neighbors. Separation of Pakistani Intel from overseeing groups like al qaeda slightly predates 9/11, which is also evident.
Also you must know that despite lines on the map the pakistani/afghan border practically doesn't exist and governed by local pashtuni, which generally aligned with Taliban as its originated from that region.



 

Why the fuck won’t the average American actually take advantage of the 2nd admendment thing to do stuff like this. Being a perpetual victim accomplishes nothing. Why the fuck is it just one community doing a fucking thing and abusing American law to do anything in self defence—especially against nazis.
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>>2189567
>he says without realizing that this current force is literally the only thing standing in the way of reactionary shitbaggery in that god forsaken country.

>>2189343
I'm not even talking about pacifism vs militarism or what it takes to do a revolt, I'm asking why the fuck does nobody try to apply statistics or make models of how capitalist defenses against its own citizenry works in layers to ensure that enough things are in place that statistically it makes revolt practically impossible.

You, right here, in this post, are doing exactly what I said not to do: engaging in this as some kind of story narrative where you ascribe personas to the "pseuds" rather than asking about how is this part of capitalist defenses that act as many many filtering layers that ensure the 99% success rate that keeps this engine going.

>>2189659
Well off empiricism the state isn’t fucking powerful and never has been. Simply maintaining a standing army and a police force to protect the bourgeoise is comically difficult for the elites and they regularly experience sabotages from how fragile their systems are.

Just look at the sheer number of cyberattacks launched at feds and tell me with a straight face that revolution is actually impossible.

Burgerland truly have the most refined and amusing kabuki in the world.

>>2189661
>Well off empiricism the state isn’t fucking powerful and never has been
K



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do you think that Vladimir Putin is a communist like the American media says he is what do you think? He’s just a typical capitalist leader or do you think he’s a fascist leader
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>>2188229
>muh nayshun!!!
servile mindset

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>>2188235
>Monkeys cant be a communists.

>>2188203
>nobody
>you: Hecking MLOIDS.
we live inside your head :D.

>>2188262
Only liberals and MLs (super liberals) unironically think Putin is or might be a “socialist”

>>2186006
Yeah, I stopped regularly posting in this shithole in 2021



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what is our opinion on Thomas Sankara and african/black leftism in general? It's very obvious that most African Revolunaires are Anti-Colonist but I've also seen most black socialists have very nationalistic opinions too. Would you call yourself an black socialist?
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>>2189341
>Nationalism makes sense

>>2189344
>>2189355
okay guys but what if we applied nationalism for whites too?

>>2189344
Whiteness is an empire which must be abolished. Imperialism and the major nations of the world are obscured by the nation-states. In practice, the nations of the new world are not states like America and Canada but whites, Blacks, various Indigenous Nations and other groups. You mystify the issue by using the language of "race". "Racism" is simply imperialism, and all honest leftists should fight for the liberation of the oppressed nations. I am a white settler and I support Black nationalism and the liberation of the Indigenous nations.


I don't know him nor I not familiar with black leftism, I leave that to black people to deal with.



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https://punchng.com/ecowas-activates-standby-force-to-tackle-terrorism/

Well that’s a first. I’ve been waiting for another transnational fighting force to emerge in the continent since the ASF got disbanded by the African union. God I hope the AES gets reintegrated into ecowas so the entire region has a transnational force to fight against terrorist shitbaggery.

The team at its current size stands at 5000 specially trained soldiers that are being actively deployed throughout the member states. Currently, military leaders are seeking dialogue with AES heads to deploy the transnational centralized force in the Sahel to keep all of west Africa protected against terrorism.

This development also comes just before the current president of Ghana (John mahama) met Traore over talks of reunification.




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