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What us even up with these groups springing up everywhere lately? I know O9A is way older but these satanist criminal groups seem to be all the rage for weirdos with grudges against the world. What even is their ideology? What purpose do they serve? Do they have an endgoal? What are they trying to achieve? It seem to just be violence for the sake of violence and reading about them in depth made me even more confused than I was before and everything they say about themselves is completely incomprehensible. They seem to be nearly exclusuvely right wing or neo nazi which is a weird thing to attach satanism to. Can anyone ELI5 this shit for me?

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>>2833397
>>2833408
The capitalists have assets/wreckers in all sorts of movements, communities and mass organizations: organized crime, labor unions, Christian, Islamic, Indigenous, Black, Chicano, environmentalists, disabled, transgender, women's liberation and so on.

IMO it's mostly all tied back to oil. I still can't parse how the anti-trans stuff ties into fossil-fuels but IMO it's probably some fucked up Epstein kind of sex trafficking shit.

IDK religion and the occult are often used as a cover for the intelligence community. IMO drug and sex trafficking are side gigs. Human trafficking for farm work and other manual labor is probably more important.

It's just really boring organized crime which is the underlying factor IMO.

https://atmos.earth/political-landscapes/fossil-fuel-billionaires-are-bankrolling-the-anti-trans-movement
https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg
https://aristasia.guide/storms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys%27_Home

>>2833397
>O9A
I think of it as more of a subcultural offshoot of the older ONA/Order of Nine Angles. A lot of the older ONA are of the opinion that s good portion of the newer O9A types would be culled in a perfect world. I'm not super well-informed these days, but a lot of the other subcultural offshoots of the ONA (Tempel ov Blood, Current 218, Temple of THEM) operate differently and believe very different things and in some cases don't like each other. They don't necessarily have one coherent philosophy, but some are neo-Nazis and some are hyper-aggressive batshit insane transhumanists.
>764/CVLT/No Lives Matter/Maniac Murder Cult/etc.
Then these guys are just sadistic, nihilistic assholes who adopt ONA-type imagery to be lunatics. Some have Nazi-inspired beliefs and target minorities or other "undesirables", while others are just in it for the evulz.
>>2833408
Some of them are (Tempel ov Blood had a couple of notable instances) pussies who turned informant after getting caught, but I don't think most of them are run by the CIA or FBI or whatever. I think the feds consider them a top-tier threat.
>Could also be said asset getting out of control.
I'd be very surprised if anyone had these people under control.
>fed nicknamed “sandman” who groomed the Buffalo mass shooter into committing the terrorist act
That was probably less a brilliant masterstroke by an evil conspiracy of glowies to orchestrate a false flag attack and more a case of the FBI being a bunch of bumbling idiots and planning to arrest the guy after grooming him but before he committed an attack and fucking up it somehow.
>>2833416
I don't think that means much. Mentally ill and violent people have run-ins with the police all the time. I sure don't think the local police department orchestrated it. Cops tend to be Trump supporters.

>>2834517
<That was probably less a brilliant masterstroke by an evil conspiracy of glowies to orchestrate a false flag attack and more a case of the FBI being a bunch of bumbling idiots and planning to arrest the guy after grooming him but before he committed an attack and fucking up it somehow.
After reading up on this, I don't think this Sandman guy was a fed at all, just your garden-variety internet Nazi terrorist.

Are they even that prominent or do they just have aura?

>>2834533
The Nazi ones run or have associations with most of the more active and prominent neo-Nazi groups (The Base, Combat 18, Atomwaffen Division, Azov Batallion, and others) and are only going to become more prominent in the future the U.S. given the Trump administration officially calling the feds off of them to focus on South American street gangs and the deadly, violent, ISIS-tier international terrorist organization known as Antifa.
I'd say non-political Satanic cults that engage in low-level criminal activity are probably more common in Europe than they are here, even. At least in the U.S., there are now Satanic cults that are structured like motorcycle gangs without the motorcycles.
Temple or Set is also an extremely powerful organization in the sense that they've got a lot of members involved in the U.S. military industrial complex and sometimes run psyops regarding these other groups.



 

2026 WORLD CUP GENERAL
Location: Mexico, C*nada, US*
Starting on Thursday 11th June with Mexico vs South Africa.
I am worried that Burger police ruins it for the non-burger fans
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>>2834122
why are you making fun of my weight u bigot

In any sports competition, I always support the team that would anger the most amount of people if they won.

>>2834128
Jokes on you support england since 2006 despite not being english

>>2834128
thats why Im going to support argenSSimians

>>2834128
>Superintendent, I hope you're ready for a final match between Italy and Brazil!
<I thought you said England was "coming home"
>Oh no I said it was coming to ROME!



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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2833091
>1.70 to 80 percent of the world have always been, are and will be always be queer, mainly bi. Actually half of people are secretly bi. They don't know it or repress it.

It's always shocking to me how common sexual solipcism is among bi people, even more so than among straights, you would think it was the opposite but no.

The online left is a liability and the left needs to touch grass and kick out the incels and femcels if they refuse to log off and get black in touch with reality

>>2704163
Based
>>2704175
Based
>>2752892
Based (also philoosophy lmao)
>>2762669
Peak based
>>2762766
Peakest based

If I had to give a controversial opinion it would be that prostitution needs to be legalized. Idk if that’s controversial or not but I never see it discussed outside of lgbtq/bdsm circles.

>>2833861 (me)
>black in touch

I was gonna be mad at autocorrect but this in fact an improvement

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>>2705142
>The tight bond between Israel and the Five Eyes nations isn't about shadowy control and blackmail; it's structural kinship



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Roberto Sanchez overtakes Keiko Fujimori in Peru presidential race
Leftist Roberto Sanchez ​took the ‌lead in Peru's presidential race ​on Monday ​with 50.01% compared to ⁠Keiko Fujimori's ​49.9% with ​93.92% of ballots tallied according to ​the official ​count. Fujimori had an early ‌lead ⁠after voting concluded on Sunday but Sanchez ​kept ​closing ⁠the gap as the ​count ​went ⁠on, boosted by votes from ⁠Peru's ​rural ​regions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/roberto-sanchez-overtakes-keiko-fujimori-peru-presidential-race-2026-06-08/

Bolivia’s parliament authorises use of troops against protesters
THE Bolivian legislature passed a law on Sunday to allow President Rodrigo Paz the authority to use troops against protesters. Bolivia has been rocked by weeks of protests led by the Bolivian Workers’ Central (COB) peasant unions and miners, which has seen roads blockaded. Markets have emptied in La Paz and other vital supplies depleted.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/bolivias-parliament-authorises-use-troops-against-protesters

Maersk is still shipping weapons parts to Israel despite denial, new report says
The bullet parts Maersk has reportedly helped to deliver are the same kind that killed Hind Rajab in 2024 and also countless other children in Gaza, as shown in a New York Times essay published later that year, the authors of the report said. The bomb bodies provide the casing for the 900-kilogram "bunker buster" MK-84 bombs that Israel has used in Gaza and Lebanon.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/maersk-still-shipping-weapons-parts-israel-despite-denial-last-year-report-says

'Continuing collective punishment': Israel halts Gaza aid, closes land crossings after Iran attack
The restrictions were announced after Iranian missile attacks on Sunday, with Israeli authorities suspending access through Gaza's main entry Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Fourth death in 2 years at Palmetto, Georgia, USPS facility: Demarcus Little dies after reporting feeling unwell
Postal worker Demarcus Little collapsed and died at the Palmetto Regional Processing and Distribution Center (RPDC) in Georgia Wednesday night, according to local media reports. According to a coworker’s account reported by CBS News Atlanta, Little told a supervisor he was not feeling well and was dizzy, then collapsed shortly afterward.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/06/dkwc-j06.html

‘Every day the policy changes’: chaos and confusion for Filipino workers over US immigration rules
Jay is one of thousands of Filipinos in vital care-giving roles in America whose lives have become more precarious under the Trump administration’s chaotic crackdown on immigration, forcing some into more vulnerable working conditions. It is an experience he has already lived. Together with his colleague Lei*, Jay was employed in a residential aged care home where he was made to work months without a single day off. Lei slept underneath the stairs; Jay in a storage room.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/08/filipino-workers-us-trump-immigration-rules

ICE facility in Louisiana reports its second detainee death in less than 2 months
Mamuka Artmeladze, a 43-year-old from the country of Georgia, was found unresponsive June 4 at Winn Correctional Center in Winnfield, Louisiana, ICE announced in a press release Sunday. ICE said staff began lifesaving measures before he was taken by ambulance to a local hospital, where a doctor pronounced him dead less than an hour later.
https://apnews.com/article/ice-detainee-death-winn-a1ab66753aa4a1effdff0b7abef2240f

The spectacular collapse of a case against ICE protesters: ‘It’s not justice, but it is a win’
The final nail for the prosecution came during a 21 May hearing just days before trial, when the US district judge April M Perry sharply criticized federal prosecutors over misconductPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

History is Calling us: Let’s Follow Kaypakkaya’s Path! — TKP-ML/MKP
History, within its own cycle, has vindicated Comrade Leader; before long, workers and peasants flocked to the revolutionary struggle in droves. This was what could not be seen in the pitch-black darkness of March 12, and Comrade Leader İbrahim Kaypakkaya has slammed this reality in the face of every form of liquidationism. Today, however, the historical cycle has created a new dilemma. Either a free world will be created through the power of necessity to create the new; or, swept into the vortex of reformism, pacifism, and every current that rejects the revolutionary option, we will become mere pillars of this decaying, obsolete order of the past. This is precisely the dilemma being imposed on the international communist movement and the international proletariat today. The pillars of the imperialist capitalist system have eroded. The imperialist capitalist system is floundering in a crisis vortex. The widening and deepening of the rift between imperialist blocs has intensified the struggle for dominance over market areas and trade routes. Shrinking markets and losses of hegemony are pushing the imperialist bloc led by the U.S. and Britain into a more aggressive and belligerent stance against China and Russia. At this stage, the doors to a new imperialist war of partition are being forced wide open. Conflicts and wars have become widespread, particularly in the Middle East and Africa, in line with imperialist competition. Precisely for this reason, a comprehensive campaign of liquidation has been launched against the communist and resistance movements engaged in armed struggle, aimed at preventing the oppressed peoples of the world from turning to the revolutionary option in the face of this crisis. The concept of annihilation and destruction has been put into action through various means.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/33607/

Sovintern and WAP: False Anti-Imperialism in Red Disguise
In Moscow, the so-called new international socialist network, Sovintern, has been launched under the leadership of the Russian capital's own “left patriots.” The initiative is presented with grand rhetoric about socialism, anti-imperialism, anti-colonial struggle, and international solidarity. Yet behind the red symbols, a different reaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

If stereotyping various people groups in film/media in general is harmful as it colors many people's worldview and spreads prejudice; How can't the same be said of casual extreme violence in media?

Not necessarily saying that it does; But what's the usual argument against this?
More a cultural than a political questions, But I love discussing here.



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How the hell is there less information about Laos than about even North Korea? Literally anyone can freely travel to Laos unlike the DPRK.

There's plenty of writings on Juche but seemingly zero focused on the government of Laos, its ideology, its revolution etc.
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>>2834107
>>2834142
>>2834156
I imagine this is related to their economies having bigger industrial sectors over the decades.

>>2834159
Pack it up boys, Marx and Lenin have been debunked. Time to resurrect the ancient ethnic religion of your nearby lake, from before the invention of the windmill. On my way to "yes sir!" my nearest entrepreneur!

Nobody knows anything about poor old Laos

LAOS ENERGY SUPERPOWER BY 2050!!!!!

>How the hell is there less information about Laos than about even North Korea?
Small landlocked nation, too isolated to be noticed outside it's region.

North Korea in contrast is largely known, because most of the western world, fought a war against it, and is in an inactive war between it's rival in the South, backed by the US.

Also, the peninsula has larger than life historical personalities.



 

Help comrades from Pakistan who are being held in prison. Comrade Ehsan Ali is on his 60s and he's being denied medical attention while his health is deteriorating.
Go ahead and share this video.

Also sign this petition
https://pakistansolidarity.org/

sometimes i wonder if people in the branch im in use leftypol

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I don't care about
>the nation
>religion
>family
I care about
>my wage
>my leisure time
>my rest time
This is why I fight for
<higher wages
<more leisure
<more rest
Fighting for any of the first three doesn't guarantee any of these. It is not in my personal interest to fight for
>the nation
>religion
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>>2796856
Read critique of the Gotha programme

No.

Just fighting for higher wage is economist. Read "what is to be done" Lenin explained how economism and trade-unionism harming the revolution.

>>2834067
did you read the second part of the post?

Fighting for higher wages is a tactic, not the end goal obviously. It's a VERY useful tactic.

1) It exposes fraudulent opportunists who can no longer hide behind slogans and have to pick a side in the class war.

2) It also reveals to workers the limits of capitalism. When merely fighting for higher wages doesn't solve all problems, workers can be shown that eliminating the wage system itself is necessary.

3) Militant action gives workers experience on how to organize and how to resist state power

4) The battles increase solidarity between workers.



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Did we tried to establish communism the marxian way? Lets take Russia, China and Vietnam. They all got from feudalism to socialism without even putting down capitalism. Furthermore, if I remember correctly, the revolutions which took place in those country came from the intellectual class instead of the proletariat.
Please enlight me.
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Wrong
Russia was industrializing

>>2816385
>intellectual class
no such thing

>They all got from feudalism to socialism without even putting down capitalism.
The idea that you must go through a formulaic progression through each stage of development is dogmatic I think. The real significance of Marx's works is that socialism is impossible before capitalism and capitalist methods of production (i.e. industrialization) are widespread. It doesn't follow from this that each individual country needs to be capitalist before it can be socialist, especially if the techniques and technology to establish an industrial base can simply be imported from capitalist countries, as the Soviets did. Marx argued that Western Europe was already ready for a socialist revolution in the mid 19th century, despite the fact that the bulk of the population were still peasants.
>Furthermore, if I remember correctly, the revolutions which took place in those country came from the intellectual class instead of the proletariat.
You remember incorrectly. All political movements have a component of intelligentsia. The class character of a movement is determined by who forms the bulk of its ranks, strongest base of support, and what objective class interests it represents.

>>2816890
Were they state capitalist? I remember some writer criticizing this view of the USSR because it had so many small private farms.

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>>2816385
>intellectual class



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I hate leftists and rightists, doe, i follow some of their views as hating capitalists, rich people, yet i hate many minorities. I especially hate nazis and communists (only because of their behaviour, i hate nazis no matter what)
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>I hate leftists and rightists, doe
Ceasing to use twitter would fix this
>i follow some of their views as hating capitalists, rich people
>yet i hate many minorities.
Socialism is a two birds one stone for that.
  • Makes rich people cease to be a problem (either through getting rid of them or doing dengism)
  • Improves the material conditions of everyone, especially those minorities, which makes everyone less annoying / dangerous, which is where your animousity is rooted.

>I especially hate nazis and communists (only because of their behaviour, i hate nazis no matter what)
As most do socialists / communists / anarchists / etc… Like that's a normal attitude to have in leftist spaces, people mean well, but they can be annoying.
if you use a list, copying your post to edit pastes a tab, appearently. Also confused bold for spoiler. Flood detected.

>>2833892
I look like this by the way

> yet i hate many minorities
So you just want to hate transhumanists without getting a uygha or an Epstein in return?

>>2833892
>yet i hate many minorities
I don't think there is anything one can say that would pierce a skull this thick. So instead, just focus on the aspects of socialism which improve your material conditions as a worker. Whatever your employment situation is at the moment.

As much as the average activist insists to the contrary, you don't have to roll with social progressivisim to get your bag as a worker. That is mostly a first world thing, stemming from these communities which have developed under the wing of western mindrot and fear, correctly, that their quite special interests may not measure nearly as high once they stop being tokens for capital. Hence they try to be tokens for communists and gatekeep change.

>>2833892
basic child



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