I define liberal revolutions as revolutions that seek out greater civil rights, civil liberties, democratic participation, economic justice, and other things without seeking to overturn the capitalist system. Some examples of liberal revolutions would be the French Revolution (1789), the Revolutions of 1848, the Mexican Revolution (1910), the Irish War of Independence (1919), the Algerian Revolution (1954), the Filipino People Power Revolution (1986), and the Arab Spring (2010). While they may not accomplish as much as socialist revolutions, they have often been successful at bringing down exceptionally oppressive governments. That said, are there times when socialists should support liberal revolutions? If so, when? If a liberal revolution came to my country (the United States), I would probably support it.55 posts and 5 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.
>>158665>Are you referring strictly to glowie revolutions in non-US-aligned countries, or are you referring to something broader?
I'd say broader, but encompassing glowie revolutions. For instance stuff like Egyptian revolution wasn't really a glowie one, but was motivated by much of the same rethoric of "we want freedom, whatever that is", while the economic structures would basically stay the same no matter who won. Same applies for glowing stuff in Russia's sphere, where both sides are similarly shit. Russia it self is more akin to that War of the Roses thing, as it is just 2 subsets of oligarchs trying to be the ones in power.
>>158680>The topics we are dealing with here are more complicated than that.
How about an ecology analog then, that shit is complicated af: no today living individual bacterium existed during Darwin's time, yet we can use his theory of natural selection to understand and predict how they react to changing conditions, such as exposure to antibiotics.
The point is, good theory has a long or eternal shelf life. Read Marx.
>>158624<Gheddafi's Libya was worse than today's Colombia
I'm not trying to deny that economic forces play a big role in shaping politics, but I find it bizarre that leftypol seems to think that the political system has little or no impact on things.>>158792
Gaddafi's Libya was an anomaly. Generally speaking, liberal democracies are more pleasant to live in than autocracies. Just compare Tunisia to Egypt, or Ghana to Equatorial Guinea.
Socialists revolutions contain liberal revolutions inside them