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So, assume for this thread that by "ruling class," we mean the political active faction of the owning class (bourgeoisie) who, for the most part, would rather just sit on their butts and receive stock dividends. The ruling class itself controls the media apparatus, corporation, and politics of the western world.

I bring this up because I'm about to read "DuPont Dynasty: Beyond the Nylon Curtain" a book so damning that the DuPonts attempted to buy every copy of it and now the price for a hardcopy is over $500 (I'm getting mine from the library)

The DuPonts are a family of chemical manufacturing magnates who are largely responsible for the state of Delaware being a tax haven for corporations today. I know they've had a hand in deregulation and stifling reports of asbestos toxicity, but I hope to learn more from the book.
Robert H. Richards IV, a Dupont Heir, was found guilty in 2014 of raping his own daughter and as punishment had to attend rehabilitation (which he never did) and got labelled as a sex offender. He also molested his own son repeatedly and despite his ex-wife's best efforts did not face any legal repercussions for doing so.
In the US, some of the most notable ruling class families are the Astors, Rockefellars, DuPonts, Kennedys, Guggenheims, Rothschilds, Fords, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and Bushes. Not all of them are American but the capitalist class is transnational. There are others. Some, like the Vanderbilts, have largely lost their fortune but due to intermarriage with other families (except notably the Rothschilds who favor inbreeding) they have managed to maintain some power. Anderson Cooper is a vanderbilt to give you an example of how far they have fallen–even the haute bourgeoisie are not immune to proletarianization.
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Heads up: I’m Italian, and as such I’m genuinely fascinated by how often American leftists have an utopian view of Europe, supposedly for its egalitarian and “socialist” policies, which actually runs counter to my experience. They might as well be the EU’s strongest soldier, believing in the EU more than the average European.
Granted, I never lived in the part of “Europe“ people talk about when using the term (which usually refers to just north-west Europe), but I do think Americans’ perception of what modern European countries (particularly those west of the Berlin Wall) are very distorted. For the sake of argument, I’ll be focusing on the EU.

For starters, both world wars and the instability of the European spring of 1848 has led to a lack of development of negative rights as well as the notion to more democracy = censorship, which is why censorship is more normalised in Europe than in America which has the first amendment. The biggest example would be the ECHR’s article 10 which makes it clear that freedom of speech isn’t absolute, which is a good example of how illiberal tendencies can exist in a seemingly “liberal” land. On the top of that, inequality is high in Europe, especially in terms of the holding power of the former aristocratic classes on European politic. As an example, Britain still has appointed lords even though the nobles’ powers have diminished a long ago, and by the time the French Revolution ended most of the aristocrats assimilated themselves into France’s political machine, whilst in Scandinavia wealth inequality is high.

As for racism, I would say that Europe is worst based on both data and personal experience. Remember Shiloh Hendrix? Well, if she did the same thing she did but in any European country, no one would bat an eye. Remember, hate speech laws are just lawfare, they’re not about “protecting minorities“ as its supporters claim. But it’s not just the micro level since hiring discrimination and lack of access to meaningful resources means many immigrants that weren’t wealthy on arrival (e.g., expats) are stuck on welfare and meagre wage or none. This in contrast to America where immigrants are treated better socially in spite of the lack of fringe benefits like universal healthcare.

I mean, Denmark is robbing refugees as a deterrent policy, France is suppressing Islamic religiosity while letting tradCaths scot-free (at least from an outsiders’ POV) to enforce its concept of state secularism (Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Trump threatened to eradicate Iranian civilization
>TACO Tuesday as predicted
>Pretended that Iran's 10 point proposal was being seriously considered last night.
>Today said that he threw it in the garbage and was insulted by it.
>Supposedly there is some ceasefire ongoing but the US is the only one pausing strikes (for now)

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Why did Birobidzhan fail?
It was created as as Jewish Oblast to protect Jewish Russians from pogroms and received thousands of refugees during the Great Patriotic War while Churchill and FDR turned away boatload of refugees from Nazi terror.

Now, there's less than 1000 Jews there. What happened? I get that it doesn't have a Mediterranean weather, but also you can live there without stealing someone else's house.

Why are so many communists opposed to state's rights to national self-administration? Isn't it the job of the local working class to sort out their own contradictions? This just seems like rainbow imperialism. I think an orthodox ML approach would recognize the conversion of many red states to internal colonies and their right to secession. Does not the brain drain of workers from red/rural states to blue/urban states mirror migrant labor from the imperial periphery? In the town-country contradiction, we should support the country.