/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1925092
If I remember correctly the biggest problems with the USSR ones were that they where the buildings, they were hard to repair, this hard to maintain at serviceable enough.
Their social planning however was fucking kino, with a lot to needed amenities on the block itself, some even had their own farms.
Don't know much about the others tho.

>>1925092
Thread OS

>>1922415
ah cool we're actually talking about lenin again. killing the romanov children was correct. it was sad and unfortunate but the correct decision. the counterrevolutionaries would have rallied behind any surviving romanov, even a minor. look at the media circuses that emerged whenever somebody would falsely claim to be a surviving romanov. it was necessary to protect the revolution. sad, yes, but necessary.

defending or mourning the romanovs is obviously embarrassing (especially calling it a "war crime" as if such bourgeois concepts are even applicable to a true proletarian revolution), but overly bloodthirsty active gravedancing, particularly w.r.t. anastasia and alexei, is a huge red flag.

>>1922415
good. but i dont care to even celebrate their deaths, let them rot in the dustbin of history

>>1924602
care to elaborate?

Oh wow 100 million slaves die and nobody even bats an eye.

US elections 2024: Democratic Party platform backs Biden's approach to Gaza, Middle East policy
The platform lists examples of Biden's unwavering support for Israel's war on Gaza, including the sending of arms shipments and providing a diplomatic shield for Israel at the United Nations during votes for a ceasefire and regarding concerns about human rights violations. It also mentions that Biden is working "at the highest levels" to secure a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/democratic-2024-platform-touts-status-quo-gaza-israel-and-middle-east-policy

Scoop: House Democrat wants Houthis back on foreign terror list
A staunchly pro-Israel House Democrat is urging the Biden administration to reverse its decision to remove Yemen's Houthi rebels from the Foreign Terrorist Organizations list, Axios has learned.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/19/torres-houthi-foreign-terrorist-organization

United Auto Workers slam Trump after he criticizes leader at GOP convention
"The United Auto Workers ought to be ashamed for allowing this to happen, and the leader of the United Auto Workers should be fired immediately," Trump said. "Every single autoworker, union and non-union, you should be voting for Donald Trump because we're going to bring back car manufacturing and we're gonna bring it back fast." The union clapped back in a post on X, formerly Twitter, shortly after: "@realDonaldTrump is a scab and a billionaire and that's who he represents. We know which side we're on. Not his."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/19/united-auto-workers-blast-trump-after-he-attacks-shawn-fain-at-rnc/74464553007/
https://archive.is/toVaz

Detainees at California ICE center on hunger strike for a week over living and work conditionsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1924538
<Vietnamese Communist leader Trong dies
>https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/vietnamese-communist-leader-trong-dies
Big sad. :(
Let's how the liberals don't win the oncoming factional fight.

Will Democrats Decide To Lose The Election?
With Trump last night becoming the GOP nominee and now having his largest polling lead — and with Biden reportedly on the verge of dropping out — David Sirota, Arjun Singh, and The Atlantic’s Tyler Austin Harper review what is one of the wildest moments in American political history. The biggest question of all: Will the Democrats decide to lose the election, or will they actually fight to win? It's been an extraordinary three weeks in American politics. Biden's disastrous debate performance brought the questions about his age and mental fitness center stage, a gunman nearly assassinated former President Donald Trump, and Republicans went full MAGA by announcing former never-Trumper J.D. Vance as Trump's runningmate at the Republican National Convention. All while the Democrats squabble over Biden’s future.
https://www.levernews.com/will-democrats-decide-to-lose-the-election/
[Audio] https://share.transistor.fm/s/4fb8d545

So Much for a Newly Reborn Republican Party
Peeling away these layers of theatrics and conspiracism, though, what was the political content of the convention? I watched more hours of it than a mental health professional would advise, and the main theme of those hours, beyond the personal greatness of Donald Trump, seemed to be that Joe Biden had “opened the border,” and this was the main cause of rising crime and Americans dying of fentanyl overdoses. Speaker after speaker repeated these claims — despite the fact that these claims are definitely not true. Cheering delegates waved signs that had been mass-printed for them with the chilling slogan “Mass Deportation Now.” There are, on a conservative estimate, around eleven million unauthorized immigrants in the United States. Take a beat and think about the logistics of the police operation it would take to round up and deport eleven million men, women, and children who are in, the overwhelming majority of cases, just trying to keep their heads down and live their lives. This is ugly stuff. Beyond fearmongering about immigrants, though, what did this year’s RNC tell us about what Trump’s GOP stands for? What did the speakers say about war and peace? About poverty and inePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1921620
>>1921475
The thing is, when the "greats" did it they had:
>Political power
>Union power
>News(paper read by millions) power
and a general zeitgeist of "proles can have it better" projected from the USSR.

>>1921670
Have you worked a single day in a factory, you fuck? You are "radsplaining" to a communist prole.

In any case:
>leftypol neets calling prole communist a "glowie" ITT

>>1920659
shay!??

>>1924534
>>1920659
I thought you were dead

>>1924534
>>1924537
Im not dead. I just smoke pot all the time

Copypasta

>>1924369
No bitches books?

>>1924369
0 reason you couldn't have posted this to your twitter profile you social media addled fuck. Go back.

Man-made climate change isn't real.

>>1921802
>another thread about marxist theory gets bumplocked, leftypol truly is a shithole
Who cares, lower case marxism is just capitalism for whiny middle-class snobs.

>>1922578
100 bruh man cant even impact the environment to begin with. We little creatures insignificant to mighty mother earth.

>>1922520
>just because it grows doesnt mean it becomes 100%. capitalism also depends on the existence of an immiserated proletariat
But factory workers for the most part aren't proles anymore. Am I getting that right?

Because its a bait and switch done by the elites.
its not so much as people 'denying climate change' they're just tired of hearing it.

when its convenient for liberals climate change is man made and we only have 12 years left until TOTAL CLIMATE CRISIS so we need to spend thousands of dollars on EVs large grant to GREEN porky, end manufacturing etc etc and when there's the slightest of push back climate change is just 'the world is hotter'

mathematics is idealism

>>1921675
That's a weird take considering math grew out of the need to keep count. If anything, it solidified us as planning animals. Not to mention that every change in the mode of production is also reflected conceptually in mathematics, and that mathematics has a history grounded in material existence and material need.

>>1921671

Thanks for sharing this paper!

It’s fascinating how the model ties together various empirical phenomena within capitalism. I find it especially interesting how it reflects Marx's material insights on the social relations of production and their implications.

The connection to Grossman's work from 1923 adds a historical layer that’s crucial for understanding the evolution of Marxist economic theory.

Grossman’s model highlighted the contradictions within capitalism and the role of crisis, which IMHO, this paper seems to build upon with more advanced mathematical tools.

The critique of the rational actor model and the use of econophysics is thought-provoking. It’s exciting to see how ideas from statistical mechanics are being applied to economics, potentially offering new insights into market dynamics and capitalist crises.

Curious about how you think these theoretical models can influence the evolution of socialist economic policies.

Do you see any practical implications for today?

>>1923355
(I can't tell if it's ChatGPT or not.)

>Do you see any practical implications for today?
Another paper from Yakovenko [http://physics.umd.edu/~yakovenk/econophysics/] analyzes the income distribution of a highly developed capitalist country (the USA) and comes to the conclusion that the US population can be divided into two different categories: those whose money income (he makes a distinction between wealth and money) obeys the Gibbs-Boltzmann distribution (some 95–97% of the population) and those that obey a Pareto distribution (top 3%). The difference, as the author hypothesizes and proves, is that the top 3% get additional income from exploiting wage labor. The division into proletarian and capitalist is reflected in the two different distribution laws of money-income.

The Pareto distribution is less stable and more entropic due to market mechanisms, while the Gibbs-Boltzmann distribution eventually stabilizes and entropy here tends to zero.

Interpertating the data via statistical mechanics, he comes to the conclusion that the top 3% are nothing else but the regulation of entropy and the dissipation of extra money-heat from the system, since the lower 95% actually stabilize and are more 'regular' in their money movement than the top 3%; consequently, there's less entropy in the lower class. The conclusion is clear: we need to producely use the money-heat dissipation if we want to keep the entropy low. That is the social revolution — the expropriation of the expropriators.

>>1924102
>producely
productively

>>1899306
He is right. Socialism will never replace capitalism unless the working class is class concious, organized and ready to take action. People and lumpen will just blame a boogeyman like immigrants or muslims instead.

>>1849725
1. Some people are genuinely happy with their lives.
2. People are too tired to do anything.
3. People don’t care.

>>1849725
They're scapegoating immigrants, poor black people, China, Iran, and Russia for EVERYTHING. Burgers are such brainwashed servile retards that they'll probably restart lynchings before even lay a single ounce of blame on porky.

>>1849735
>no one is happy but no one has power to change things
Correction: no-one* thinks they have the power to change things because they're politically individualists

Political consciousness is voot and maybe write letter and bitch online.

>Cost of living is rising every day, colleges are debt slave machines but parents will still push their kids into going.
Proletarianization is great actually.

>>1905371
So? Language has nothing to do with genetics. Israelis didn't genetically speak Hebrew. It's something that can easily be setup in a generation as you've proved.

>I guess we all speak Hebrew now for all day to day interactions.

Just LARPers.

>Plus how is it cool for a communist to defend land inheritance? The means of production including productive land should belong to those who work them, not inherited based on ancestry
You're just arguing you're entitled to those lands based on your inheritance by the promise of Yaweh.

You didn't even address my point that in your own mythology you stole the land.

>>1905378
>You didn't even address my point that in your own mythology you stole the land.
Really the whole Israeli argument is that their original genocide was complete, so the current Palestinians couldn't be descendants of the people they stole the land from the first time.

>>1905389
>It goes to show the nativity of jewish/hebrew culture to the northwest semitic region; the levant.
The culture has nothing to do with anything. A large portion of the world is culturally Judeo Christian but that has nothing to do with anything but a bunch of LARP.
>No im just pointing out the nativity card os hypocritical here
You're trying to play the nativity card in the same very post.
>The situation in europe was tense for jews, so jews moved to where we came, in result palestinians chimped out because muslims hate kaffirs
Still can't answer why you couldn't make an Israel in an Anglo country. Anglos never did anything to Jews. Anglos loves Jews and would never harm a hair on their heads.
>Thats a meme based on the lineages of patriarchs
>Linguistic research is more or less clear about the origins of hebrews
Once again languages mean nothing. Anyone can learn a language.

>>1905420
> judaism is based on descent,
Your system of descent is arbitrary and strictly ideologically based.

>>1902871
Average convo with a Zionist online:
>Don't generalize all Jewish people
Sounds good
> Palestinians are terrorists and we should should kill them all
wtf
>Don’t generalize all Jews
sounds good
>If you criticize Israel you’re not a “real” Jew
wtf

US announces $325 million in funding to boost Puerto Rico solar projects as outages persist
The announcement comes amid widespread anger over outages that repeatedly leave Puerto Ricans in the dark. The island of 3.2 million people has a more than 40% poverty rate and some cannot afford a generator. Government officials say the outages also endanger the lives of those who depend on oxygen, refrigerated insulin and dialysis machines.
https://apnews.com/article/puerto-rico-granholm-solar-power-outages-20a5edc8f6f4b9743825460c9b6e1860

US appeals court blocks all of Biden student debt relief plan
The St. Louis-based 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted a request by seven Republican-led states to put on hold parts of the U.S. Department of Education's debt relief plan that had not already been blocked by a lower-court judge.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-blocks-all-biden-student-debt-relief-plan-2024-07-18/

Illinois deputy charged with murder shot woman in face after ordering her to move pot of water
Prosecutors said Grayson “aggressively yelled” at Massey to put a pot down and then she put her hands in the air, declared “I’m sorry” and ducked for cover before being shot in the face. Grayson also discouraged the other deputy from getting his medical kit, prosecutors said.
https://apnews.com/article/illinois-sheriffs-deputy-charged-cf164189d678f921deff05fa3789d3a2

CFPB Aims to Protect Workers From Paycheck Advance Fees
The CFPB proposed a rule clarifying that paycheck advances, sometimes marketed as "earned wage" products, are consumer loans and are therefore subject to the Truth in Lending Act. The federal law requires lenders to disclose all fees, interest, and total costs consumers will incur before they use the product.
https://www.commoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

MLKP: We will resist occupation and defend the lands of Kurdistan
“The colonialist fascist Turkish bourgeois state, with the support of the KDP and the Iraqi government, is expanding its occupation attack on the territory of South Kurdistan. Our mountains are bombed, our villages are evacuated, our people are forcibly displaced. A genocidal attack is being carried out with chemical gases and tactical nuclear bombs,” said the statement on Thursday. MLKP Kurdistan pointed out that the colonialist Turkish state's invasion attacks are based on the ‘centuries-old Ottoman dream’ and said: “The Turkish state is heading towards annexing the lands of South Kurdistan up to Mosul and Kirkuk. NATO states, which have recently convened and openly declared their intention to bring the world to the brink of the third world war, support the genocide policy and occupation of the Turkish state.”
https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/mlkp-we-will-resist-occupation-and-defend-the-lands-of-kurdistan-74341

We Need to Talk About Amazon Prime Day
The lure of affordable goods and convenient delivery is strong. While the worst of the affordability crisis is beginning to ease, for some, the challenge of making ends meet never abates. The United States Interagency Council on Homelessness writes that more than half of the country is living on the edge, paycheck to paycheck, and “one crisis away from homelessness.” So it’s hard to blame anyone for shopping for a deal at a big-box retailer, in-store or online, like Walmart or Amazon. While we can understand the draw to these retailers, we must also recognize and reckon with the true cost of their business model. Walmart is a wretched, exploitative corporation that underpays its workers and fights tooth and nail against unionization attempts. But Amazon makes it look like the Paris Commune. A new Senate report finds that nearly half of Amazon’s warehouse workers are injured during the company’s Prime Day event. The Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee (HELP), chaired by Senator Bernie Sanders, states, “Prime Day is also a major cause of injuries for the warehouse workers who make it possible.” The two-week lead-up to Prime Day and the event itself result in double the industry average of recordaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.