/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1816052
>philosophical zombie
The entire field of contemporary western philosophy is a joke and probably deliberately dumbed down and neutered.

>>1816060
>muh western
All philosophy is a joke.

>>1816060
I know that's why I keep posting Lukács quotes and articles about how Heidegger was not only a Nazi but also shit at philosophy

>>1816051
We learn plenty of things unconsciously.

For example, even an illiterate could point out an incorrect sentence structure despite never spending a conscious thought on how grammar works, nor even knowing the terminology to explain it. They never consciously learned their language. The question: can there be creatures that learn everything that way? If yes, is it better somehow? If yes, does that mean that we'd edit that part out of ourselves if competition demanded it? The book assumes all three answers are "yes", and then tells a spooky story.

Watts isn't seriously asserting that his depictions are true, he's riffing. Blindsight includes theorycrafting for goddamn space vampires. Don't look too hard into the actual story, it's not trying to be prescient (though I will note, it included an interaction with an instinctively bullshitting entity that a modern reader would instantly recognize as an LLM - it was written in 2006).

Although, the questions are posed in the context of a fantastical first-contact story. Getting the 'triple yes' outcome described above would be catastrophic in the real world (I say this as a conscious creature that enjoys being conscious).

My take on the consequences of non-conscious intelligence turning out to be better* than conscious intelligence is this: given the currently dominant mode of production, as workers vie for higher wages, the logic of competition would drive them to eventually "optimize" consciousness out of either their own cognition or their kids' (perhaps through neural prosthetics, genetic engineering, whatever). You already see something resembling this; many software engineers can't shut the fuck up about chasing the 'Flow State', which is apparently some deep mode of concentration where you forget yourself and get completely immersed in a task (i.e. making your boss more money than other workers). Regardless of whether this 'flow state' shit is a grift or not, it's certainly an indication that the demand would be there.

*: (as in, better at being a good little wagie)

Moved to >>>/hobby/41044.

for me its president luthor

>>1814559
>legalize selected drugs and strictly regulate potency
>anyone caught in possession outside official state social clubs gets +-week in a work camp
t. enjoyer

>>1813988
the "news" on their front page is 4 years old..

from the wikipedia page on the current president:

>He considers the October Socialist Revolution of 1917 as a "catastrophe" and refers to the Bolsheviks as "traitors" and "usurpers."[30] He also was one of the main supporters for the establishment of the first museum in Transnistria dedicated to the victims of political repression,[31] and he has stated he views the policy of decossackization as "genocide based on class criteria."[32] He adheres to the opinion that in Transnistria, the Holodomor was organized by the communists in power at the time in the region,[33] and supported and instructed to explore the installation of a monument in Bender dedicated to the victims of Soviet repression.[34] He also spoke positively about one of the leaders of the White Movement, Mikhail Drozdovsky,[35] the Monarchist general who led the Iași–Don March.
<Krasnoselsky has proposed raising statues of notable Imperial Russian leaders such as Emperor Alexander III, Generalissimo Alexander Suvorov and Prime Minister Pyotr Stolypin.[36] He actively involves himself in changing the tourist image of Transnistria. He believes that Transnistria should be associated not as a "fragment of the USSR" and Soviet monuments but with positive images. For example, a monument of Vladimir Lenin was dismantled in the of Bender Fortress as part of this initiative.[37]
>He has stated that he is a constitutional monarchist,[38] going as far as to say the following during a presidential campaign:
< I am a monarchist by nature. From my youth I had strictly built monarchical views. I am a supporter of monarchism, limited constitutional monarchism, and take the experience of the Russian Empire as a basis.[39]
>While still being the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Vadim Krasnoselsky initiated the installation of banners featuring the image of the imperial family with the words: "Forgive us, sovereign, for our lost children."[40] He initiated the construction of a chapel in honor of the imperial family of Nicholas II[41] in Bender and a chapel on the site of the former Intercession Church in Tiraspol which was demolished in the Soviet era.[42] He also sharply criticized the religious policy of the USSR.[43]
<On February 13, 2021, at the Cossack Circle, the president Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1814678
what the fuck are you yapping about no one in moldova is scaling a mountain

>>1814678
what…?

>>1813407
That is still just putting debts off onto the rest of society and obscuring that fact behind bloodline magic mumbo jumbo

communism is when whining about 'wage disparity' and 'imperialism'

>>1812816
Classic

>>1812824
You're making an irrefutable claim here. We either have to agree with your proposition or if we dispute it we're supposedly demonstrating it. This is kafkatrap bullshit

Thanks News Anon

'You Are an Inspiration,' Sanders Tells LA Hotel Workers Fighting for Just Contracts
"You are an inspiration, because of your courage, to millions of working people throughout this country," Sanders (I-Vt.) told the crowd of workers gathered outside Hotel Figueroa. "You are working hard, you are what keeps these hotels going. You deserve decent wages, you deserve decent benefits, you deserve decent healthcare, you deserve decent schedules, you deserve decent pensions."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-hotel-workers-unite-here

Progressive Candidate Could Upend the San Francisco Mayor’s Race
Mr. Peskin said this week that he agrees with the other candidates that the San Francisco Police Department needs more officers, and he would try to create a program to seek recruits from local colleges. He said he also agrees that fentanyl dealers must be arrested and jailed.
Mr. Peskin sees that goal as unrealistic and believes San Francisco should retain local control over its housing development rather than have the state intervene.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/04/us/san-francisco-mayor-peskin.html
https://archive.is/6UqqA

US court rejects transfer of credit card fees rule case amid focus on 'judge shopping'
The ruling was a jurisdictional victory for business groups including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and American Bankers Association amid a broader debate over how and whether to rein in "judge shopping" by litigants who sue over government policies in courts with one or two sympathetic judges.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-court-rejects-transfer-credit-card-fees-rule-case-amid-focus-judge-shopping-2024-04-06/

Arrests Expose Rift Between N.Y.P.D. and ‘Violence Interrupters
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Is the Golden Age of American Jews Ending? No, but Liberal Zionism Is Breaking Down.
Foer’s pained attempts at “both-sidesism” rest on a simple premise: He identifies with a version of “liberal” Zionism that supports U.S. imperialist hegemony, including its Zionist proxy that helps it to control the Middle East. This ideology, which was once very popular, claimed to defend human rights and democracy, while at the same time cheering for imperialist wars and ethnic cleansing. Foer incorrectly assumes that all Jews feel the same way, or at least they really should. So any criticism of U.S. imperialism is, in his view, anti-Jewish. The author recounts numerous anecdotes of Jewish students feeling threatened by pro-Palestine protests at their school. He does not delve into any of these stories — it is not clear why a protest against an ongoing genocide would be threatening to any individual not committing said genocide. Many young Jewish people in the U.S. are raised to identify with the Israeli state. But they don’t have to — and increasingly, this identity is breaking down. Many of the pro-Palestine protesters, who are supposedly threatening Jews, are themselves Jewish.
https://www.leftvoice.org/is-the-golden-age-of-american-jews-ending-no-but-liberal-zionism-is-breaking-down/

Sahra Wagenknecht Keeps Punching Down
Without a doubt, Sahra Wagenknecht’s new party fills a gap in Germany’s party-political spectrum. Her credo: yes, the rich should pay more taxes and working people should earn more, but socially everything should remain more or less the same, or return to the way it used to be. Her Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht party (literally, Sahra Wagenknecht Union, BSW) is a mixture of the traditional left and the working-class wing of Christian democracy. Does it have a raison d’être? Yes. You could even argue that the BSW strengthens democracy, if nonvoters or frustrated voters feel represented by it. However, the current political landscape means that Wagenknecht not only has to try to win over frustrated former social democrats, but also potential voters for the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD). After all, she wants her BSW to usurp AfD as a protest party — and from there go on to establish itself as a mainstream party Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1814990
Leave the socdems alone, discuss with articles and logic, history and data. Not this

You are not even a anarchist, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ending

>waaaah why doesn't a country literally on the border of the empire have a communist revolution
I thought was a scientific materialist board

>>1814993
>He's still a capitalist
>He is one of the best leaders of the left
wew
>>1814999
>Leave the socdems alone
No.
>>1815003
Who are you quoting?

>>1814996
Not realistic until China becomes the strongest superpower. Thanks to BRICS, they can't bully us though. If they try and harass us we just casually suggest we might consider joining BRICS.

Both Biden and Trump were trash talking about our country. The next day president did this:

>>1815038
Forgot the pic.

He's talking with China's ambassador

It helps me agitate for socialism.

>>1814481
Sorry that you're unaware of the contents of your new based communist online friends' broadcasts. I guess they were just a way for you to signal how based you are. :^) Politsturm has explicitly said: Hamas is an imperial proxy. The Gaza genocide is an "inter-imperialist conflict" warranting rev. defeatism on both sides. It's just like WWI colonial infighting. The Deprogram has repeatedly hosted a Russian liberal academic, Konstantin Syomin, who says the same things. You didn't think it would be that easy to escape your habit of mindlessly wolfing down propaganda, did you?

It hurts NATO

i hate the usa

>>1814620
>The Deprogram has repeatedly hosted a Russian liberal academic, Konstantin Syomin, who says the same things.

So what

Being an honest person in America is a death sentence

>>1814780
Being honest is a euphemism for being stupid and naive

>>1814445
Mogged in being infantile

>>1814782
being stupid and naive person in America is a death sentence

>>1814434
>Which organization took in its programme the demands of the Commune?
Most socialist organizations have the demands of the Commune.
>Which organization took Iskra's organizatory plan and applied it to its own circumstances?
A handful of socialist in their own countries material conditions yet there seems to be no success. This was tried in the 20th century with the IWW and the CPUSA's Bill of Rights socialism. Those two are just the icing on the cake.Thats what I mean when I say your strategy isn't unique because they already were tried and not successful. There are multiple reasons why there is no success but communist "worshipping" previous revolutions are not the reason.
>Where's the autocracy in the West?
Do you believe that the West has no authoritarian tendencies
>Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? Nothing in the west has been tried sans a lowly combination of narodnaya-volya-ist terrorism + the worship of intellectual individualism.
I can say that you sound ridiculous by saying that communism will make a comeback if they:
>actually stopped worshipping revolutions that had to adapt to concrete historical reality
That is not why communism is not successful in the west. You are literally one step away from saying "not real socialism" which already makes people skeptical of you when you say "My socialism will work unlike the red tsarists". Now bringing a photo of Lenin in Chicago is larpy but it's another level if you condemn that revolution.
>By revolutionary worship I mean exactly what you just did - Marxism-Leninism is the religious dogma rigid stalinists love to push around thinking that there's a one-size-fits-all approach to revolution.
Reread the post.Where did I say that Marxism-Leninism is a one size fits all? I am simply saying that those socialist revolutions will be brought up and you should talk about the overwhelming positive that came from the experience. There were mistakes but they were minor compared to the positives it gave. There is an anarchist in these threads that defends Marxist Leninist states and can say that the US won't have an ML revolution which is solid and understandable. SocPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1814469
We could also acknowledge that it's more for entertainment than a serious source

The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living it seems.

>>1814486
Just give them a party hat when they post, that makes it less bleak

We already have duginists on this board, we don't need no more robots

>>1814496
lol true

>>1771633
He was never a real communist, he was a social democrat. He betrayed his followers and got ousted in favor of another right winger

/leftypol/ discovers the failings of electoralism.

Wow, I remember the hype back then here on leftypol about the pencil guy. I remember when some peruvian anon said: "I'm going to fight for my president!"

Not like I should bump this one (or post it too on the latamhisp thread) but the VP now president Boluarte (the one that was a card carriying member of ML Pencil party) is on fire for her extravagant gifts of various rolexs and jewelry. Now it is seen that it was a gift from Ayacucho's governor
(the region where more than 2 dozens died in the aftermath of Castillo's fall)
Good to see that corruption has become something so stupid since the times of Alan Garcia & APRA.

Not like something is going to happen soon. The opposition in congress has no votes to impeach her, and two tries by them to do it already failed. She has the blessing of the right and those who handle the pan.