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Another shitty thread for the Shitty Isles, for the naive Sultanah glazers, for the Jesus Corbyn worshippers, for the Nigel Farage enjoyers.
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>>2513172
Thankfully, the good guys persevered. God is great!

>>2513153
>were london some hellhole, it would be possible to afford a house there and europeans wouldn't move there en-masse, nor would it draw in a reasonable number of canada/australian/nz citizens.
The way people get by in London is for natives, it's usual dual income households where both are on like 60k+ a year.
Many poor migrants are living in insane HMO situations where they have like 20 people live in a 3 bedroom house.
For huge swaths of londons black population, it's council housing, subletting council housing, claiming council houses across multiple boroughs then handing it out to family/friends etc. So much scamming goes on in regards to council housing and mobility cars it's actually wild. It's pretty much an open secret at this point across the entire industry the UK domestic car sales industry is propped up by blacks and Pakistanis scamming the mobility system.
London also is "livable" but it's not particularly nice to live in. Australias and Kiwis pretty much all congregate in De Beauvoir Town, Tonnes of middle class europeans and americans live more in like Knightsbridge, Earls Court, Notting Hill, Shepherd's Bush etc, Chinese and Koreans basically isle of dogs/canary wharf.
That said, there is more to london that nice inner north areas. Go south of the Thames and london becomes a right shithole, Brixton, Peckham, Lewisham, Croydon etc are borderline slum tier. East London is still just wtf bad especially south of the Thames where east London straight up doesn't even have public transport connections to the rest of the city nor anyway to cross across the river. Up north Tottenham, Enfield, Cockfosters are basically just hotspots for organized crime of Africans, Albanians, Arabs etc
People are forced into London because it's the only place in the UK that has genuinely acceptable wages. If you are not on dual income high 5-6 figure incomes, you are almost certainty better off living somewhere like Bristol or Newcastle or Sheffield or Leeds or whatever.

£150 and both toilets on the carriage are full of piss and sick

Police have just revealed that the synagogue attacker, Jihad al-Shamie, had previously rang 999 and then announced his allegiance to ISIS on the phone to the police.
The police did not investigate or follow up on the incident.
Anyway, very funny that an ISIS supporter would attack a synagogue when it's Israel who is arming and funding ISIS in Gaza to work against the resistance. Man clearly wasn't firing on all cylinders.

>>2514102
Watch 4 lions, it's largely based on court cases of British Jihadis in the 2000s and what types of incompetent spastic retards generally became Jihadis.
Also I like the scene where he blows up the crow because it was literally filmed at my old allotment (Crookes Quarry Allotments).



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There is a massive conflict of interests between producers of goods and services and those who demand and use these goods. How do Marxist plan to abolish this contradiction in a situation where its proletarians demanding these goods?
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>>2511996
Let's see in the texts what Marx and Engels wrote about the communist economy in its lower stage:

<Let us take, first of all, the words "proceeds of labor" in the sense of the product of labor; then the co-operative proceeds of labor are the total social product.


<From this must now be deducted: First, cover for replacement of the means of production used up. Second, additional portion for expansion of production. Third, reserve or insurance funds to provide against accidents, dislocations caused by natural calamities, etc.


<These deductions from the "undiminished" proceeds of labor are an economic necessity, and their magnitude is to be determined according to available means and forces, and partly by computation of probabilities, but they are in no way calculable by equity.


<There remains the other part of the total product, intended to serve as means of consumption.


<Before this is divided among the individuals, there has to be deducted again, from it: First, the general costs of administration not belonging to production. This part will, from the outset, be very considerably restricted in comparison with present-day society, and it diminishes in proportion as the new society develops. Second, that which is intended for the common satisfaction of needs, such as schools, health services, etc. From the outset, this part grows considerably in comparison with present-day society, and it grows in proportion as the new society develops. Third, funds for those unable to work, etc., in short, for what is included under so-called official poor relief today.


<Only now do we come to the "distribution" which the program, under Lassallean influence, alone has in view in its narrow fashion – namely, to that part of the means of consumption which is divided among the individual producers of the co-operative society.


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>>2512119
cafeterias are oriented at speedily handing out food to large amounts of people and have separate handout and checkout lines with different workers at each, the food at handout is already cooked and can sometimes be pre-portioned
they are common in workplaces, hospitals and schools where lunch breaks are tightly regulated and the priority is feeding yourself, not the "experience"

restaurants and cafes typically don't have separate lines, there is either a bar or the waiters take and bring your orders to you personally. the majority of dishes in the menu are cooked on demand. all of this tends to result in longer wait times

>>2511977
>I LOVE larping as a slaveowner
>I LOVE disneyland but with slop instead toys
Cmon now. The reason people dont always eat at home is because delivery fees suck, and so does eating alone. But still, the working class mostly cooks their meals

>>2511890
Labor vouchers and don't make job placement, unemployment benefits, etc. too good or else people won't fear firing enough. Slowly phase in the communism, ready to backtrack if it causes anti-social incentives.

>>2511901
In abstract they're the same people, but in concrete they're different people playing different roles, who just happen to switch roles over time. In a given moment you have to think either as a consumer or a worker. A consumer adds to your workload, something workers tend to dislike. A worker will often cut corners in order to get a job done faster, or dilly dally if time isn't a concern. This goes against the consumer's interests. It's not inevitable that this contradiction exists, e.g. if there is no incentive for increased efficiency but also no way for the worker to gain while being intentionally inefficient. Maybe they have a relaxed work pace but are paid piecemeal, something like that.

>>2515625
Someone could even be working on something they themself use and be in conflict with themself on and off shift.



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Israeli cabinet ratifies Gaza ceasefire, captive exchange deal with Hamas
While the full details of the first phase of the ceasefire deal, approved by Israel and Hamas, remain unclear, Trump has said his plan will bring “everlasting peace” and wide-scale reconstruction in Gaza, which has been devastated by Israel’s two-year war. “You have tremendous wealth in that part of the world by certain countries, and just a small part of that, what they make, will do wonders for Gaza,” Trump said, without giving details of a specific reconstruction plan.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/9/israel-confirms-signing-phase-one-of-gaza-ceasefire-deal-with-hamas
https://archive.ph/t3JsE

Marwan Barghouti secretly removed from prisoner list by Israel, source says
A source close to Barghouti and his family told MEE that last night mediators including US envoy Steve Witkoff signed off on a prisoner list that included Barghouti. However on Thursday, an Israeli spokesperson told reporters that "at this point in time that he will not be part of this release". Barghouti's name appears to have been unilaterally removed by the Israeli prime minister's office, the source said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/marwan-barghouti-will-not-be-released-gaza-deal-says-israeli-spokesperson

Lebanon foils attack on Hezbollah commemoration, arrests 32 'Israel spies'
The security operation that thwarted the attack was reportedly carried out in "complete secrecy and under the direct supervision of the General Security Directorate, in order to preserve the confidentiality of the ongoing investigation into the [detained] group’s external connections." According to Lebanese media reports, the plot was orchestrated by a foreign national only identified as Martin, who resides in Germany and moves across Europe.
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US could fire air traffic controllers who fail to work during shutdown, transportation secretary says
U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy warned on Thursday that the government could dismiss air traffic controllers who repeatedly fail to show up for work during the government shutdown, saying a spike in absences is causing significant air disruptions. "If we have a continual small subset of controllers that don't show up to work, and they're the problem children … if we have some on our staff that aren't dedicated like we need, we're going to let them go," Duffy said on Fox Business. "I can't have people not showing up for work."
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/us-could-dismiss-air-traffic-controllers-who-fail-work-during-shutdown-2025-10-09/

Mangione prosecutors reject idea that DOJ biased case with Trump reposts
The Department of Justice (DOJ) said two of its employees reposting a video of President Trump criticizing Luigi Mangione does not violate his right to a fair trial. … “The attempts to connect Mr. Mangione with these incidents and paint him as a ‘left wing’ violent extremist are false, prejudicial, and part of a greater political narrative that has no place in any criminal case, especially one where the death penalty is at stake,” they argued.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5547817-mangione-fair-trial-doj/
https://archive.ph/75Ccb

Former Republican election official buys Dominion Voting — a target of 2020 conspiracy theories
The newly formed company, Liberty Vote, also vowed to follow the executive order Trump signed last spring seeking sweeping changes to election policies that multiple judges have put on hold for violating the Constitution. KNOWiNK, a St. Louis-based provider of electronic poll books that allow election officials to confirm voter information, announced the deal and the name change. In a possible nod to a groundless conspiracy theory that linked Dominion to the late Venezuelan Precedent HuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2515572
>firing atcs when the air traffic is operating with a skeleton crew already
Awesome idea, no notes.

"The problems with PMC Theory" - Sam Badger (2025)
In 1976, Marxist sociologists Barbara and John Ehrenreich published two essays on what they called the “Professional-Managerial Class”, or the PMC. This class, they argued, is distinct from the classic Marxist categories of bourgeoisie and proletariat, as well as the old petit bourgeoisie of small businessmen usually associated with the middle class. This PMC is the new middle class, and though it shares many properties with the working class (like selling their labor for a living), it has distinct class interests as well as a sense of entitlement and elitism thanks to their education. The Ehrenreichs blame the conflicting worldviews and goals between the PMC and the working class for the failure of socialism to advance in the United States, the dominance of “progressive” politics over class politics, and the general state of degeneracy of the American political left. Today, many on the left (and some on the right) make use of the Ehrenreich’s category to blame the PMC for identity politics, “wokeness”, and other targets for criticism. The Ehrenreich’s argument has a lot of strengths, as it does identify real political divergences and conflicts within the American left. This explanatory power has given the theory legs, hence its widespread influence in political discourse to this day. Yet the PMC is not a distinct class, but an agglomeration of skilled mental workers, managers, administrators, and the professional petit bourgeoisie. What the Ehrenreichs identify as a class is rather a cross-class cultural milieu, and the political issues they blame on the PMC is rather a conflict largely (but not entirely) within the working class. These internal class conflicts are not uncommon historically, and emerge from real divergences of interests.
https://libcom.org/article/problems-pmc-theory-sam-badger-2025

General Pinochet and the Vans of Death
Early in the afternoon of March 24, 1999, my wife, Angélica, and I were seated high up in the gallery overlooking the chamber of the House of Lords in London, where a panel of law lords (the English equivalent of a Supreme Court) was to decide whether there were grounds to extradite General Augusto Pinochet, Chile’s eighty-three-year-old former dictator, to Spain to face charges of torturPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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I’m a communist but I do things that are capitalistic. I live in the area that has only fast food so my hypocrite for eating at McDonald’s. and In-N-Out.
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>>2515418
>Engaging in bourgeois parasitic consumption IS capitalist.

No, it isn't. Capitalism is a systemic phenomenon, it's not something an individual person does; it's something an entire society does.

Industries leveraging their surplus capital to acquire more capital in a recursive loop of infinite growth is capitalism.

Buying a jet ski isn't capitalism.

Having to work for a living isn't capitalism.

Getting sold a fake watch by a conman isn't capitalism

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That’s stupid but I like the picture.

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>>2515329
Poisoning yourself isn't capitalistic. It's just sad, that's all.

fug was meant to reply to OP



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What president United States was the most socialist I’m wonderin I think it was Jimmy Carter because he went to Cuba I know he
Was a Neo liberal but at least he had the effort to do that.

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He has a better reputation post-presidency than his actual presidency. I've heard him referred to as the first neoliberal president because he deregulated some industries. His philosophy is a kind of Christopher Lasch sort of thing about the "value of local communities" i.e.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism

>>2515381
he was more intellectually honest than many ("we destroy countries and then blame them for their poverty", "venezuela actually has a solid democracy"), but that doesnt make him a socialist



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Stick 'Em Up Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

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🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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📺 Glowie News 📺
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>>2514920
Why didn't he post the death threats in the screen cap?

>>2514792
kind of surreal to know that there are now people in the US ~on the left~ whatever we should call it idc who are unaware of the RGA saga

>>2514817
go birds

>>2514968
Charlie Balls, lmao gotteem

>>2514617
I don't remember Leninhat being a bitch.



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Va. Lt. Gov Winsome Earle-Sears wants to murder everyone now. My state is having the funniest elections ever.

https://vademocrats.org/news/new-audio-from-sears-reveals-comments-about-reproductive-rights-supporters/

Merge w usapol

Every politician should try running on a pro murder platform. I mean they practically do it already just not openly. They should also form their own militias which I think is a great idea. You guys hate your lives too? Here's a cool way to throw it away. Democrats would cuck out though and be massacred and then Republicans would just start killing each over who's the whitest while being by a black woman. Maybe this is what the Zionists want? Who cares Americans kind of deserve it. Too bad I'm one too.



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What are some ideologically engaging places to visit on a trip in China? For better or for worse red tourism there seems particularly developed and commodified - I'm looking forward to seeing the contrast to eastern europe red historical sites, where post-communist states either tear it all down(Ukraine), fail to maintain it (Bosnia), or worse of all give it a lib rebranding as some kind of solemn commemoration to a dark age(Czech)

Are there any red themed sites you have enjoyed visiting or are looking to visit? Tours or accommodation recommendations are also very welcome.
Beijing and Yan'an seem to be a great start, with plenty of museums and art installations.
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>>2480632
You can see Mao's body in Tiananmen. Shanghai has 2 cool museums about the communist party

>>2480632
>ideologically engaging

>>2509250
Goes hard

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>>2480632
buzluca is a nice place for red tourism

>>2509290
Thank you anon, very cool!
Please keep the thread up to date with where else you go and what else you find. Do you speak mandarin? Having those conversations with chinese comrades in person sounds great, but I’d imagine very few would speak English.
I also like your idea of flying to Yan'an, seems to save 10h over taking the train. Then going down to xi'an, and south/east from there.



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Most MSM, AI LLM trained on shit, resources online point to the fake narrative that ukraine (the borderlands, formerly wild lands or dikoe pole) has some kind of lineage tied to Kievan Rus and that it was not entirely a fabrication by the USSR. It is a fake nation that speaks a russian dialect and fabricated its own history and identity. Give me books to prove this right because it is the truth, give me books and resources, english russian whatever,
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>>2514572
English are kkkrakkka kkkolonizer$ so no. Welsh are bipoc. The British Isles belong to the indigenous Celts, read Gonzalo.

Just to be clear, despite my belief that nations are arbitrary political demarcations dreamed up by European racists in the 1700s, I think Ukraine has just as much of a right to be an arbitrary political demarcation as Russia does.


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Guys where are the books? I want books that look like this, I'm waiting.

I can link to an article from 1881 from Kremenets in what is today "Western Ukraine" about reactions of many locals to the "ukrainophile" movement out of which "Ukraine" came to be. In short, most locals identified themselves to be Russian and weren't enthusiastic about "Ukrainian" identity. It all changed after the Civil War and "Ukrainization" started by Lenin and continued by Stalin for some time (but then stopped and reversed in some places).
Article link:
https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Украйнофильство_с_его_затеями_о_двутекстных_учебниках_(Гогоцкий)
(naturally, you have to know Russian or use translator software. I'd recommend to use some offline translator to not get marked by NSA or something like that)



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If American communists actually care about achieving socialism then they should work on destroying the United States.

Most of Western imperialism, Israel's continued existence, the global suppression of socialist movements across the world. It all literally hinges on the United States. You will not have your socialist revolution in the US any time soon anyway and not without the current order collapsing. The most noble thin you can do is to do whatever is in your power to accelerate the collapse of the United States.
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>>2514503
Aside from angles (360 is surprisingly practical), doing things in base 10 is still quite a time saver.

>>2510658
In this case re-structure is not possible without the toppling of the existing structure. It's currently functionally impossible for the American government to be restructured in a way that does not serve the rich, due to the extreme influence they have over all areas of government and society and the various monopolies they hold. The good news is that this kind of oligarchy is a sign of a decadent empire that is in its twilight years.

>>2511285
>Which is why there's no point in organizing within the Democratic party.
Yes which means non-violent reform is impossible as third parties in America have practically 0 presence.


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>>2514509

When I got into woodworking last year I initially thought about getting metric chisels and metric rulers and metric everything and do all figuring in metric and stop being a backwards American, but it was hard to find metric tools and all lumber is cut in lengths of inches so you'd have to convert everything to figure out how much wood to buy for a project and I'm too used to inches to teach myself how to think in centimeters and it just seemed like a big hassle so I decided to just use inches like everyone else. I've never told any other American woodworkers about this because they would laugh and call me a faggot.



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