/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Communism not an "Extreme" Idea.

Communism is very rational.
Communism is a science.
Communism is NORMAL.
Communism is what billions upon billions of normal, everyday people who have families and friends they love wish the world was like.
Communism is simply the endpoint of the enlightenment. It is a natural extension of our intellectual curiosity.
There is nothing "extreme" about communism.

Capitalism is extreme.
Capitalism is fucking insane, as a matter of fact.
Capitalism drives normal people away from their family and friends. It turns people into psychopaths. It's a runaway cult of a small sect of lunatics bulldozing across the earth.
Don't let them tell you Communism is a crazy idea.

>>1673176
yeah pretty much

Maybe post that study?

>>1673109
>The dawn of agriculture is the dawn of the grain silo and the first human who says "this is mine".
It's really not. It took thousands of years to go from one to another. That's just how "unnatural" private property is to humans.

Ford production workers in Kentucky vote against UAW labor deal
Production workers across two Ford plants in Louisville, Kentucky, voted against a tentative agreement that ended a weekslong strike, a local chapter of the United Auto Workers said on Facebook late Sunday night. By contrast, skilled trade workers at the two plants voted in favor of the agreement, leaving the members of UAW Local 862 split on the deal depending on their respective jobs.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/ford-production-workers-kentucky-vote-uaw-labor-deal/story?id=104843315

Militarized Police 'Indiscriminately' Attack Nonviolent Stop Cop City March With Tear Gas
Journalists and protesters said police blocked the road about half a mile from the march's planned destination. "The police have effectively separated the press at the front of the march from the rest of the march," the group Defend the Atlanta Forest wrote on social media. "Police are preventing them from rejoining the march and threatening to tow their cars." NDN Collective, an Indigenous advocacy group, posted video of police pushing reporters away from the march, calling the area a "crime scene" and threatening to arrest journalists.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/stop-cop-city-march

Amid blowback over Clarence Thomas travel, Supreme Court says it will adopt first-ever code of conduct
the code itself included no enforcement mechanism, an omission the court's critics immediately jumped on. Outside experts have said enforcing a code of conduct on the Supreme Court would be especially tricky, given that no other tribunal currently exists that could overrule a decision made by a justice or the court itself. Others criticized the court's statement for describing the ethics scandals that have swirled around the court as a "misunderstanding."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/11/13/supreme-court-code-of-conduct-clarence-thomas/71569902007/
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‘Free Speech’ Fans Call for Censoring TikTok as Chinese Plot to Make Israel Look Bad
Rep. Mike Gallagher (R–Wisc.), who serves on the House select committee investigating China’s Communist Party, took to the web publication Free Press (11/1/23) to sound the alarm: TikTok’s Chinese ownership meant that a dangerous foreign power was using social media to sway public opinion against Israel. His solution was clear: It’s “time for Congress to take action. Time to ban TikTok.” This is interesting for a few reasons, but chief among them is that the Free Press was started by former New York Times writer Bari Weiss, one of a handful of conservative journalists who banded together to assert the federal government exerted too much control on Twitter before it was acquired by Elon Musk (NPR, 12/14/22). The company’s liberal corporate governance, they asserted, had suppressed conservative ideas (Washington Post, 12/13/22). Weiss even signed the Westminster Declaration, a vow to protect “free speech”: “Across the globe, government actors, social media companies, universities and NGOs are increasingly working to monitor citizens and rob them of their voices,” it said. These “large-scale coordinated efforts are sometimes referred to as the ‘Censorship-Industrial Complex.” Now the Free Press fears the internet is too free, and should be cleansed of ideas deemed hurtful to the Israeli government.
https://fair.org/home/free-speech-fans-call-for-censoring-tiktok-as-chinese-plot-to-make-israel-look-bad/

Braverman's sacking is a victory, but the far-right threat is growing
SUELLA BRAVERMAN has been sacked. For all the Westminster gossip about David Cameron’s return to the front bench, Braverman’s removal is the key takeaway from the reshuffle, and it is a victory. A victory for democracy, and the mass movement for peace. A defeat for the hardest-right wing of the Tory Party, and their open flirtation with fascist violence. It is the extraordinary outpouring of solidarity with the people of Palestine that has framed British politics in recent weeks, making support for or opposition to an immediate ceasefire the key dividing line in the country — and even if it’s more a dividing line between the public and politicians than one at Westminster, the strengPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

TYBNA

Thanks News Anon

>>1677345
>Party (PCF) originally intended to boycott the march if the far right National Rally (RN), led by Marine Le Pen, were going to take part but decided to march. … But France Unbowed leader Jean-Luc Melenchon stayed away from the march, saying last week on the X social media site that it would be a meeting of “friends of unconditional supporters for the massacre” in Gaza.
<tfw your biggest communist party is so fucking shit the socdems are better anti imperialists

tybna

>>1677137
generic template response

the one and only

Pretty much all of Kim Il Sung’s higher ups were former Japanese collaborators who were rehabilitated and reeducated.

This is a gonna be a bit controversial, Otto Ernst Remer was a a former German officer in WW2, after the end of the war he saw believed the Soviet Union would be a better great power in the world then the "Jewish controlled United States and their degenerate Empire", Remer founded and led the “Socialist Reich Party” which was partially supported by the Soviet Union. The party would be banned only 2 years later and Remer was to be arrested, so he fled to Egypt. He became an advisor of Gamal Abdel Nasser and even engaged in arms trade with Algerian National Liberation Front. He also went to Cuba to hire former Wehrmacht officers for the newly established army.
I mean regardless of his actual beliefs, he did more to fight American Imperialism then the precocious pseudointelectual academics

>>1677747
real strasserist patriots in control. if only he capped that burger-lover Hitler before he whored himself to the Junkers. sigh……

Even spending 5 minutes on googling this shit will show that it didn't "dissolved" and definitely wasn't overnight. It was a coup and then a brutal suppression of any resistance.

Vidrel is part of what happened back then.

>>1674347
"During the early years of perestroika, academia also saw a quick, systematic and centrally directed promotion of reform-minded scholars to positions of authority in the country’s top universities and research institutes, often through the direct personal intervention of Gorbachev and Yakovlev.46 To name but a few important appointments: famous liberal sociologist Tatyana Zaslavskaya was made head of the Soviet Sociological Association and the director of the All- Union Centre for the Study of Public Opinion; Yevgeni Primakov (future member of the Yeltsin cabinet) became the head of IMEMO; radical liberal historian Yuri Afanasyev was made rector of the State Historical-Archival Institute at Moscow State University; and reformist economist and Gorbachev advisor Abel Aganbegyan became chair of the Economics Department of the Soviet Academy of Sciences.47 As a result of the new appointments, various schools and institutes gradually came to reject Marxism-Leninism as the ‘guiding’ paradigm in each of their respected fields, first implicitly and later explicitly. Yakovlev himself publicly participated in this process to transform academic discourse. In articles appearing in Pravda and the Party theoretical journal Kommunist in April 1987, he criticized the ‘infallible truths’ and ‘dogmatism’ inspired by the Marxist-Leninist approach to knowledge, arguing that these principles “elevated ‘authoritarian thinking’ to a new political, moral and intellectual principle.”48 The newly promoted liberal intellectuals, given license to promulgate their theories and opinions on economics, history, foreign policy and other important topics in the country’s central newspapers and periodicals, gained a hegemonic voice as perestroika progressed".

>>1676901

"Films of the perestroika era came to be dominated by the chernukha, a style of filmmaking portraying unremitting bleakness, negativity and pessimism in the presentation of life, based in the desire to “chronicle…social horror…to reveal historical atrocity and ‘truth,’” to push “cultural production to the limit.”71 The main characters of these films, frequently from socially peripheral groups such as prisoners, criminals, and prostitutes, were often explicitly or implicitly portrayed as heroic individuals fighting ‘the system.’72 Film critics Andrew Horton and Michael Brashinsky argue that the chernukha’s portrayal of inhumanity and immorality, unmotivated cruelty and the death of all former ideals was specifically designed to leave film audiences “nauseated".

"Through the late 1980s documentary filmmaking underwent its own radicalization, coming to discuss sensitive historical issues and the contemporary problems of poverty, drug addiction, youth alienation, and prostitution. Like cinema, documentary filmmaking also gradually turned to the chernukha style. Stanislav Govoruhin’s 1990 film Tak Zhit Nelzya (It is Impossible to Live Like This), arguably the most famous of the perestroika era documentaries, epitomized this shift, mercilessly enumerating and condemning the problems in Soviet society, and ==ultimately
indicting the whole record of Soviet rule."==

>>1676901
>>1676921
Systemic Overcentralization of Power and the Hegemony of the New Radical Discourse

"Discussing the reform processes occurring in the Soviet Union in the late 1980s under the auspices of glasnost, Shlapentokh notes their “extraordinary” and historically unprecedented nature, the state effectively carrying out “a frontal offensive against its own ideology.”145 In Shlapentokh’s characterization, the old system, “a rigid, hierarchical organism, turned out to be defenseless against the actions of its leader, who undermined its vital mechanisms.”146 Conceptualizing Gorbachev as the “single motor of initial change,” Shlapentokh points out that even as political opposition to his reforms crystallized, it was unable to challenge him directly, or to formulate alternative policies, capable only of temporarily stalling the reform process.147 The Party apparatus, constrained by the only of temporarily stalling the reform process.147 The Party apparatus, constrained by the principle of Party discipline, ended up giving up one position after another, ultimately voting to deprive itself of its own monopoly on power".

"The intensely hierarchical nature of the system extended to every sphere of political, social and cultural activity. Physically in control of virtually every organ of information dissemination, the reformist Party and state leadership could also rely, in Yakovlev’s words, on the population’s psychological dependence on salvation “from above.”149 As a result, the fundamental transformation of Soviet mass consciousness would only require a small ‘core’ of radical intelligentsia situated in the top posts in the media, the cultural sphere and academia".

<"Focusing on the press, Shlapentokh notes that “what the liberal press achieved in the country was amazing…it took less than one hundred liberal intellectuals to effect a change in viewpoint of the mass intelligentsia and of the politically active part of the rest of the population".

"Reviewing the Soviet media system’s transformation, Becker argues that especially during the period between 1985 and 1988, the press effectively “served as a weapon in the battle Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1676951
>>1676901
Ideological Diversion, ‘Newspeak’ and the Concealment of Reformers’Real Intentions

"Writing about the conceptual origins of glasnost, Yakovlev has conceded that the reformist leadership’s decision to liberalize and radicalize social discourse was not based on any sense of
objective social necessity "Strictly speaking, the turn toward glasnost was not inevitable in those years. It was dictated more by the philosophy of perestroika and its initiators than by immediate necessity. At that stage society would have supported even some fairly radical version of an administrative ‘perfection of socialism, ’strengthening the technocratic approach, as opposed to the Partyideological approach for solving vital problems."

"Because the Soviet system prior to perestroika had a strong measure of popular support, a large core constituency of Party members and many non-party sympathizers, and a powerful security
mechanism organized to defend the regime, the campaign to destroy the old hegemonic ideology had to be carried out carefully, slowly and in secrecy, using ideological deception and political
duplicity.232 Discussing the introduction of new terminology and the transformation of old ideological signifiers during perestroika, Michael Urban et al. note that slogans like ‘a return to Leninist norms’ and ‘the renewal of socialism’ constituted “marvels of political ambiguity, enabling liberals and conservatives alike to share the same symbols and terms even while they might understand them in radically different ways.”233 In this way, the liberal reformers could use old terminology to criticize their opponents and simultaneously to disguise radical new ideas within
the old acceptable expressions. As the ideological reform effort progressed, these terminologically transient ‘vanishing mediators,’ having performed their role, gave way to more
and more radical formulations.234 Kara-Murza conceives of this process of linguistic reformulation as a form of ‘Newspeak,’a ‘totalitarian’ technology ultimately used by the reformers to radically transform mass consciousness.235 Kurginyan concurs, noting that the “strategy of semantic war…designed to address conscious Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1677531
>Vector calculus isn't geometry
I meant to say 'spacial'.
>the class character of individuals
Rephrase this, please. Do you mean something different to 'the class of individuals'?
>that simply assessing individuals according to their class character, as though it were static rather dynamic, is a mistake
Class mobility exists, we're aware. And study of how to influence class change could be useful. But I can't see what practical use there would be in "a kind of vector calculus for class analysis", simplifying the complexities of society and its relations down to position and velocity, etc..
So I ask again, what is the utility of this model?

>>1677488
OP is definitely building on the concept described here >>1677252 in this thread >>1676955

Holy fuck do you know anything about vectors at all? Do you know the difference between the dot product and the product between ordinary matrices?

>>1677531
reminder to everyone on this board that you can easily stop making the mistake of thinking that
>he class character of individuals are changing so rapidly in times of rapid societal decay and institutional breakdown, that simply assessing individuals according to their class character, as though it were static rather dynamic, is a mistake.
by remembering the simple fact that class isn't just some immediate descriptor of your current circumstances but an average description of your entire life

>>1677585
Well that doesn't help either, comrade.

>>1646529
That is not what is being said though.

> bourgeois failsons have the opportunity to study the modes of oppression they benefit from
Maybe if more them are being pushed out of their respective markets.
I’d say there is a higher likelihood that it’s more downwardly mobile petite bourgeois at risk of being proletarianized than the haute bourgeois, if that’s what you mean.

>>1593456
holy shit you are dumb. no one is having conversations or discussions on the anonymous parts of the internet. it's the age of a thousand million mentally impaired internet addicts doing nothing, thinking nothing and writing nothing
anonymous "politics" are a spectacle, you detach yourself from your material reality through anonymity, you become an idle spectator with no past nor future, and thus, no critical sense or intelligence or anything. these aren't just words but you are too far gone to understand what I'm saying so I will not bother to elaborate

>>1677355
>it's the age of a thousand million mentally impaired internet addicts doing nothing, thinking nothing and writing nothing
as if the previous eras were any different. its just that were now exposed to everyone else 24/7

>>1677355
<no one is having conversations or discussions on the anonymous parts of the internet.
Thanks for your thoughts and your contribution to the conversation that you are participating. I have internalized what you said and will integrate it with my ideas going forward.

>>1675222
back when they said that they were terrorists, but not murderers ?

>>1675222
Tunnelling into jails?

>>1677363
No, Franco won because the nationalists have an actual army backed by the West. If atrocity porn is all that matters Palestine would've won against Israel a long time ago but guess what happened

>>1677383
>>1677363
you guys are the worst you all simp for the fascist equivalent of deng

>>1675222
shooting head of states ?

>>1595223
How does Canada even benefit from being an American lapdog? Are its politicians that subservient, is its Chinese population that guano, what's the angle here?

even CBC is saying it
fr tho this is the most based vid Ive ever seen from them. you know its bad when

>>1565445
I'm from Texas, supposedly one of the fastest growing states economically, and there's tons of disaster fail neighborhoods. There are also giant, hideous masterbuilt neo-company towns, with LED street lights leading out through an abandoned plain to a hub of identical luxury apartments around some tech company office building with a soulless millennial coffeeshop on the first floor, filled to the brim with indian programmers.

Anyone got footage from recent Palestine solidarity protests in Canada, or other news of interest?

>its very fun to laugh at when it happens to americans
>it's horrifying when it affects me personally woe betide me
TND but for canadians instead of N's

>>1603610
The aristocracy of the grand bourgeoisie — the neo-nobility, — made up of people such as Bill Gates and Bezos, realized that the oncoming social changes will not lead toward a proletariat revolution but will lead to techno-feudalism. With the raise of modern technology the masses will be turned into modern serfdom, and with the help of massive-scale automatic surveillance systems they'll ensure that no revolution, proletarian or bourgeois, will ever happen again, nailing down the power of the neo-nobility for the next millennia.
Maybe China, Vietnam and Cuba will survive

>>1646770
I've already been turned into a techno peasant. I work from home at a tech job with constant surveillance and phone calls while simultaneously raising my infant child. I go outside and garden and stuff. I gotta admit, it's kinda comfier than driving to work but it also makes me super paranoid and depressed sometimes.

>>1646770
>realized that the oncoming social changes will not lead toward a proletariat revolution but will lead to techno-feudalism

Really? Well I certainly hope that they don't mind the peasants revolting and trying to kill them off. It certainly happened more often than not in regular feudalism.

>>1646935
feudal peasants revolts usually failed and were crushed brutally. It's pretty depressing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts

not the same anon btw

>>1646770
>The aristocracy of the grand bourgeoisie — the neo-nobility
How are they "neo-nobility". Are you making a "neofeudalism is here!" type argument?

>>1676445
If this was true why did the number of kolkhozes decline under Khruschev and all subsequent leaders while the number and size of sovkhozes grew?

>>1677059
Who were the main people promoting the Stalin cult of personality?

>>1672735
The actual Bordigite is in 1945. when Stalin revised class warfare for peaceful competition. He should've marched the Red Army to Paris. Death to imperialism.

>>1677109
Nah Bordigites became anti-Soviet in 1922

>>1677154
Bordiga was an opportunist and a Trotskyite, and hence his misjudgment in 1922, but he correctly analyzed the tendencies of opportunism in the late Stalin, which we must admit are theoretically and scientifically sound.