/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2849146
Oh man how dare we oppose the genocide in iran and gaza
You sound like an israeli making fun of palestinians for losing

Really shows the israelization of our politics

>>2849158
Is burning at the moment

How dare we oppose the genocide in gaza and iran right?

Lets support unlimited murder!!! Hell yes trump!! Also kill me just like you killed pretti!!!

>>2849056
>Hes gotten rid of illegals
We actually don't know this because they stopped reporting any numbers early on.

>>2819423
Does gangs taking over the country count as communist revolutionary action?

>Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
The west has already been perpetually punishing Haiti for having a successful slave rebellion for over 200 years at this point, if they ever had any socialist movement at all then America would kill every Haitian person.

Revive

>>2819423
>Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
Small capitalists there have a lot of power

Because only leftards believe in the revolution of the poor that Marx deboonked ages ago

Luv haiti doe

>>2848599
No shit it’s not real class consciousness. I literally say to use populist rhetoric and messaging, not socialist class analysis, before moving on to the latter if/when the subject in question has been primed for it. That does not mean “reject the latter” and hide that you’re a socialist, but to recognize that if the person you’re speaking to is hostile to socialism, you need to meet them where they’re at first. Workers don’t spontaneously become socialists through abstract propaganda; they usually enter politics to fulfill immediate concerns: wages, taxes, housing, etc. the point is to begin with workers’ actual concerns and then show how these concerns are tied together through class struggle. Hence why Lenin started with “Peace, Land, and Bread” and then moved on to “Power to the Soviets”.

>Marxism demands an attentive attitude to the mass struggle in progress, which, as the movement develops, as the class-consciousness of the masses grows, as economic and political crises become acute, continually gives rise to new and more varied methods of defence and attack. Marxism, therefore, positively does not reject any form of struggle.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1906/gw/

>>2848633
trvke

>>2848633
>Hence why Lenin started with “Peace, Land, and Bread” and then moved on to “Power to the Soviets”.
Peace, land, bread is a slogan which hides material demands. Talking about elites mystifies things. PLB arose during war, famine, crisis. Here we are talking about particular family members. You must see that political slogans based in material demands of a class used to mobilize the class are different to populist, anti-communist rhetoric used to mobilize Legion, for there are many. You must understand that PLB came after 1905, and 1905 didn't come because bolsheviks engaged in populist rhetoric, but because they held the party line. Lenin radicalized an existing movement based in class, this is not the fucking same as talking with your family about the 'elites' or 'fair wages'.
>>2848669
What fucking 'trvke'? It's trying to use Lenin's theory of spontaneity and consciousness to explain (a fucking elephant) a minuscule local issue (a fucking mosquito) which isn't even necessarily class related, and fucking fails at doing exactly that. It's impressive.

>>2848781
>Peace, land, bread is a slogan which hides material demands. Talking about elites mystifies things.
They both mystified things. Do you think the average peasant, which made up the majority of Russia's population, gave a damn about soviet power, which was far away from them in a city that in their mind they had little in common with? The only thing they care about was small property ownership, food, land, and not getting shot. This and capitalist initiatives were why kulaks were able to expand in the first place. Unless you are clearly defining your policies via class analysis there will always be a level of abstraction that hinders, but can also potentially benefit, depending on how you use it.
>PLB arose during war, famine, crisis.
Capitalism is constantly facing crises. Arguably we are even facing one right now.
>populist, anti-communist rhetoric
The point is that the two can be connected, not that we should be doing one without the other. These are people who have a fundamentally pathological hatred of even just the word "socialism", due to 150+ years of 24/7 brainwashing. You cannot even speak to them using this word or they will immediately tune you out. Starting a conversation with concepts that, while incorrect, have the potential to break down these walls is not anti-communism unless you deliberately refuse to connect the two concepts. Socialists in the SSRs, such as Romania and Germany, used populist/nationalist rhetoric to initiate with the masses even when it wasn't their ultimate goal, such as when Karl Radek gave that (misguided) speech in 1923 where he attempted to connect the KPD's goals to German nationalism.
>1905 didn't come because bolsheviks engaged in populist rhetoric
The material conditions were, as you acknowledge, fundamentally different. They had a large amount of socialists, whether Narodniks or Mensheviks or Bolsheviks or SRs or whatever, and the term was not outright demonized. Moreover, even when not demonized, the majority still think either "socialism is when the government does stuff" or "socialism is okay, but communism is le evil and these are somehow two distinct things". We are personally still closer to 1850 than to 1917, unfortunately. This does mean we must Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2824098
Deporting isnt fascism but ICE is just a GOP gestapo focused on political repression and intimidation, all staffed by lumpen and mongoloid proles.

>>2824115
eastern bloc opposing egress and ingress was stupid too

>>2824117
The USSR border controlled existed to prevent people from leaving, not from entering, they didn't have that problem. Not communist country has ever had that ptoblem

Revive! Come

>>2824085
If this is what you care about then do it yourself?
There is nothing worse than being the 'ideas guy'. Ideas are useless if you have no desire or will to implement them.
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>>2824167
Anon, at that point just report them. If they're openly admitting to being here and posting in bad faith there is less chance the jannies can make excuses to leave them.

>>2848797
Was it "Red China's Green Revolution" by Joshua Eisenman?

>>2848798
I don't think so but thanks for the recommendation

I wish the Chinese proletarian Maoists well
Talk about a concentration of the revolutionary subject holy shit

>>2848254
wars destroy empires, protests don't

>>2848318
Only if the empire is losing the war with occupiers literally on it's soil forcing the population to organize themselves outsode the government, protacted wars on the other aide of the ocean do jack shit

>>2833824
This could result in the restoration of communism in Albania (hopefully) as hoxha is still popular

>>2848318
>wars destroy empires
I don't care about empires. I care about capitalism.

You can clealy see this is a CIA backed colour revolution against a socialist government. Hopefully the zionist treatlerites will get gunned down in the streets. Long live comrade Kushner.

He dead

>>2847845
Davis wasn’t a boomer. He was born in 1932.

>>2829180
>Clive wasn’t named in the files so no idea
Because he has his own set of files.

CLIVE DAVIS CONFESSES TO MURDERING WHITNEY ON DEATHBED.

>Plus there is a huge number of musicians whose deaths he was certainly involved in (Janis Joplin, Donny Hathaway, Phyllis Hyman, Luther Vandros, Aaliyah, Left Eye, Whitney Houston, Angie Stone and even Prince).
Schizo thread

Neoconservatism is Jewish supremacy.

>>2844900
they're the type of people that bezmenov et. al actually appeals to.
"capitalism bad" > "capitalism bad but the current communists are worse" > "those dastardly communists tricked me into following evil, capitalism good"

PNAC behind 9/11 = NEW PEARL HARBOR

Bill Kristol and Paul Wolfowitz need to be brought to The Hague since they were clearly the masterminds.

>>2846523
>massively increase defence spending
>launch preemptive attacks
This is just normal US foreign policy. Reagan did this shit too.

>West Coast Neocons/Straussian (china hawks, very pro israel)
Alarice the Zionist barbarian
Bronzeage Zionist
Rawegg Zionist
Third City Zionist
Bari Weiss
Zero HP Jew
JD Vace
Peter Thiel
Tucker Carlson

>Orthodox Neocons/Straussian
(you know them, anti russia hawks, globalist, zionist)
John Bolton
Bill Crystol
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zero-sum/psimulacrum/paradise

… we get what we give

… we see what we want

… we experience what we need to experience because of quantum zero-sum goo game/war reality

… culture/civilisation is a happy trap that protects us from real full noise ugly beastly stuff (animal magnetism/rule of opposites/law of attraction)

>>2847484
I think the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania may have been going to the White House.

Most likely not.

>>2847462
Why haven’t they been charged with war crimes?

>>2847716
Hamas are controlled by Israel lol

>>2847727
Reported for /pol/
>N-no
Callig for genocide us against the rules, doubleuyghur.

>>2847710
>Fucking Islamists tower above leftcoms.
At what, being pedos? Lol

>>2847720
>city founded in 400 bc was built entirely by viets over a decade
leftKKKoms cannot hope to respond

I don't understand the argument "ML is superior because it was more relevant for 70 years than [other ideology]".

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce to an ideology even more powerful than ML, that surpassed every other ideology for the past 250 years:
LIBERALISM
Liberalism currently rules the world. It can adapt endlessly despite repeated economic crises, and in fact, crises give opportunities for liberalism to strengthen itself and modify its own ideology according to new conditions, like a feedback loop.
What ML states did after 70 years? That's right, they liberalized their economy and adopted markets. Liberalism is the logical conclusion of ML.
Don't be afraid to join the winners of history, and don't forget to pay your respects to Trump and Macron.