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How can anyone think that Donald Trump is a Christian when all he is a Zionist bootlicker not just that he’s enforce the National Guard deported so many migrants friends with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bombed boats in Venezuela he’s basically a war criminal but apparently he worked at McDonald’s. I’m loving it. That. Fat fuck

Christianity for most people is based aesthetics and not actually following the doctrine, cause if that was true they would all become vagabonds. Also no right winger believes Trump is a Christian they just like his policies.



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How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?

For the past 10 years, the entire crux of the Democratic Party has been "STOP TRUMP". The average American Democrat or liberal now bases their political views solely on how much they hate Trump, MAGAts, "manosphere" podcasters, so-called "alt-right pipelines", and everything in between. They have no real principles and it shows.

The right-wing, on the other hand, believes it is creating a new world; it's a much worse world, but that's how they want it. This has caused liberals to prop up the old, dying system as a way of preventing it from collapsing into something worse. Now, we're seeing liberals who claim to be "left-wing" embrace everything from free trade agreements (on the basis Trump's tariffs need to be stopped) to hyper-consumerism (on the basis that spending money on fashion and makeup and mindless consumer goods helps maintain your "individuality" against Trump-era conformity) to literal junk food (in order to own RFK and MAHA). It doesn't take much to realize all of these were once things American liberals strongly opposed 20-25 years ago; I'm old enough to remember when "clean girl" no-makeup aesthetics, eating organic, and herbal medicines were leftist things.

American liberals are now pushing a culture of hyper-rationality and order to counter the mass chaos that has erupted in America under Trump. They hate ICE agents terrorizing communities but they hate the sporadic community defence and protests that pop up to beat back ICE even more. They hate the Luigi Mangiones and the Tyler Robinsons and the prospects of an American Years of Lead. They want everything to be "rational" and based on slow progression and linear shit. But this way is outdated. Trying to find the "middle path" doesn't work when capitalism is in a state of collapse. For the liberal, everything that doesn't fit their paradigm is "mysticism" which always equates to "fascism" and needs to be stamped out before it manifests into authoritarianism. But how can this hyper-rationalism win?

The same is true of foreign policy. Liberals insist on American soft power, which arguably won't work in a world post-Gaza where American support for the most documented genocide in recent history was on full display. Trump, on the other hand, is an old school imperialist who simply seizes whatever he demands without caring.

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I don’t think that there will be a strong liberal movement after Trump. The liberal base is practically all just demsocs except for boomers and unless you consider them to also be liberals then it’s pretty much over. Everyone is either a demsoc or a Nazi which is pretty bad because I don’t think that demsocs are the polor opposite of Nazis, I would consider the polor opposite of a demsoc to be an Eisenhower-style conservative and I would consider the polor opposite of Nazis to be Maoists, then again what would a Guevarist like me know? After all we all like to think we are in the center.

>>2526945
If the Dems could recover from the Vietnam debacle (Vietnam was a Dem project for most of America’s involvement) they can recover from the Gaza genocide
What they cannot recover from is their utter inability to improve anyone’s life in any way

>>2526850
>american liberalism after liberalism
Same old. Uniparty will continue to murder both americans and foreign victims of imperialism in the name of capital.

>How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?
Those who aren't ready for socialism, particularly those not directly hit hard by the current repression, might just celebrate the 'victory' of Democrats (assuming they aren't overtly blocked from electoral power) and interpret it as the system working, validating their trust in US institutions, electoralism and the legal system. Honestly, a show-trial of Trump could kill a revolution.

But if socialists GTFO /leftypol/ and actually seize upon these grievances, they can inoculate people from liberalist claims of America working, if/when the Republicans face any roadblocks in the future.

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I used to think that the democrats were a good thing but now I think they crap



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Happy Türkiye Day Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2576058
>why won't you share your emotions
<okay i feel like crap
>fuck you for making me deal with your emotions unpaid
lmao

>>2576244
fracking started at 1:1 EROEI IIRC. And shale deposits are kinda huge, so it's not likely that they'll deplete too much for a while. But it's only really gonna make sense for the US.

>>2576247
Of course the people in the "C"PUSA tried to join the most reactionary organization in the history of the world, the KKKatholiKKK Church. When that failed, they joined the second most reactionary organization, the "C"PUSA. If you think that you learn right and wrong from the Bible you are even more reactionary than I thought you were, and frankly I already think the only substantive difference between you and Goering is honesty.

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death to the Trumpist Burger Reich™ appeasement agenda. Genealogy tried to warn us in Eurovision with their song which was originally called "Don't Deny". Hayastan and Sakartvelo is falling thanks to P*tin's Psy-Op and his puppets like Ivanishvili and Trump. I recognise that Nagorno-Karabakh as Armenian. "Muh Christianity!", MAGAists say when in reality Hayastan was the first Christian country. Face the facts, Trumpists



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How do we resolve the paradox of reform and complacency?

Put simply,
>the vast majority in Western countries seem unmotivated to engage in political activity, beyond absolute trivial acts like voting or sharing opinions. This is assumed to be largely a result of complacency, despite the material issues caused by the current political systems.

>acceleration schools of thought may suggest intentionally worsening the conditions of regular people, assuming this will motivate them to focus on improving their conditions rather than tolerating the status quo. opponents will point out that making conditions worse makes it harder to organize and lessens people's ability to act effectively

>reformists may suggest improving conditions through political education and participation. however, opponents will point out that improving conditions through the system increases complacency without solving the root problem.
Where else do we go? Dual power? Selective reform?



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).
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Did subcomandante Marcos really say that?

allegedly there is a controversy (that only exists bc of rumor so take with a grain of salt) that one council betrayed another in favor of their own interests(not stepping in for security or something like that), which, as a result is argued to have made it easier for the govt to overrun their specific territory. first of all, a tragedy but also confirmed a critique/bogeyman of this system where small town/council "nationalism" overrides helping others in favor of their territory's interests. anyone hear about this? you can try to discuss it but anarchists and such will call you a fed for even wanting to find out about it/clarifying details

Nazism is shit in all forms

>>2575989
anarchism as a movement collapsed this decade. there's no substance to it anymore, anarchism as it exists (or recently existed) would never be able with its network of communes to go against the bourgeois state. people hopefully realize this before lapsing into literal identity politics like the OP

>>2575220
I've always been interested in the revolutionary process within Catalonia/Aragon/Spain during their civil war but I've never been able to find anything that focused on that topic alone. Where can i find this?



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>>2575760
Its a sign that western powers are ready to negotiate and let Russians enter different institutions so there can be a dialog. Trumps cuckoldry can also not be underestimated.

Closely related to this subject is that Jared Kushner tried to include a "christian alliance against China" in the the original 28 part plan which Russians were smart enough to dismiss outright. While not a big fan of Russia I have loyalty towards socialist states like PRC and DPRK.

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r8 the plan

>>2575506
God I love Luka

Shall I bake?




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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2574194
it secretly is a logic puzzle

>>2573109
When you think about it, a chandal kid must cause the most seethe.

Because using that system made it easier to extract resources. If they actually cared about human rights they would have abolished the caste system like in Tibet, but obviously that was not the priority considering they squeezed the Indians so hard for food that the bengal famine happened.

this is what the british do all the time, they always did that, there is no time where they didn't do that

>dalits are not even on the chart
dalitsisters..



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

A couple of things:
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How is this relevant to the left?

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>>2570854
>chomsky
oy chill bro he just diddled gentile girls nothing to worry about brahski

just typical anarcho retardo things

>>2575554
That Talmudic verse is literally about whether or not a girl who was molested as a small child is still considered a virgin on her wedding day. It’s absolutely not an endorsement of child rape.

>>2575899
>>2575899
It's about determining the price of slave fussy, who are you trying to make it sound kosher?

<And similarly, with regard to a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant, who were ransomed with regard to the captive, or who converted with regard to the convert, or who were freed with regard to the maidservant, when she was more than three years and one day old, for all of these, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not subject to a claim concerning their virginity. When they married, their presumptive status was that of a non-virgin.


>Rav Oshaya raised an objection to the opinion of Rav from the mishna: With regard to an adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old, or a minor boy less than nine years old who engaged in intercourse with an adult woman, or a woman who had her hymen ruptured by wood or any other foreign object, the marriage contract for each of these women is two hundred dinars. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: The marriage contract of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood is one hundred dinars. Contrary to Rav’s opinion, the Rabbis distinguish between the halakha in the case of the intercourse of a minor boy and the halakha in the case of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood.



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I was curious to know what you guys thought about liberalism. Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
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>>2524381
>science of Marxism-Leninism
how to tell someone you don't understand or like science, marxism or leninism

>>2549169
>was to the American Republicanist model in particular.
imho this is also the secret sauce to talking to burgers abt socialism, every critique they've been taught was also something absolute monarchs said about the american revolution(muh huemon nature, republics only work on a small scale, muh democracy equals mob violence,muh divine hierarchy,etc)

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i was researching freemasonry, when i got to the "lansdowne MS" (1560) which is part of the "old charges" of the order (english masonry only officially beginning with the grand lodge in 1717). what struck me is the lexicon highlighted here:
<First, there is no reference of the word ‘Freemason’ or even ‘Free Mason’, only ‘Free born’.  This might suggest Free Mason was not yet in use in England.
https://www.thesquaremagazine.com/mag/article/202101lansdowne-ms/
this is interesting, since it reminds me of john lilburne's notion of an englishman's "freeborn" rights (1641-9). was liberalism a child of arcane masonry (such that later liberal revolutionaries openly adopted the doctrine)?


>>2524222
>Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
What the fuck. Blumpf is just another liberal.



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Guinea-Bissau army officers say they have seized power; president deposed
The head of the main opposition PAIGC party, Domingos Simoes Pereira, has also been arrested, Haque said. “As well, we’ve just heard that the military is trying to cut off the Internet. There’s a curfew in place.” He added that the army officer leading the coup, Denis N’Canha, served as the head of the presidential guard. “The man supposed to protect the president himself has put the president under arrest,” Haque said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/26/guinea-bissau-army-claims-total-control-after-gunshots-heard-in-capital
https://archive.ph/F0LbG

Sudanese army rejects RSF proposed truce
Sudan’s top military commander, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, slammed the US-backed truce initiative as benefiting the RSF and the United Arab Emirates, which many in the international community believe to be backing the paramilitary group.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/sudanese-army-rejects-rsf-proposed-truce

Syrian security forces use gunfire to disperse rival protests in Latakia
Witnesses said hundreds of Alawite protesters had gathered to demand a federal political system in Syria and the release of men they say were unjustly detained by the country's new authorities. Supporters of the government then gathered and began shouting insults at the Alawites. While members of Syrian minorities have called for federalism in Syria, the idea has little support among the Sunni majority.
https://www.newarab.com/news/syrian-police-use-gunfire-disperse-protests-latakia

Israel lays siege to occupied West Bank’s Tubas, displaces tens of families
Troops then began house-to-house searches in the city of Tubas as well as the four nearby towns, including Tammun and Aqqaba, as the army announced a new military operation it claimed was targeting resistance fighPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thanks News Anon


>>2575093
>Another Italian antifascist activist, Ilaria Salis, arrested during the Day of Honour event in 2023 on three counts of attempted assault and membership of an extreme left-wing organisation, was held in Hungarian custody for about 15 months.

>However, she had to be released when she was elected to the European Parliament for Italy’s Greens and Left Alliance in June last year.


Based

>>2575391
Didn't see that one, thanks anon




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