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Italy: Alfredo Cospito and 11 Other Anarchists Acquitted
There is no place to proceed for Alfredo Cospito and 11 other anarchists. This is what the judge of Perugia, Angela Avila, decided today, January 15, in the afternoon, at the end of the discussion during the preliminary hearing.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/13763/

Over 70 arrested at London pro-Palestinian rally on eve of Gaza truce
The 70 arrests at the demonstration were the largest number since the rallies began in London in October 2023, according to the Metropolitan police. The demonstration was set to be a static rally in Whitehall, site of the main British government offices, after police rejected the route initially proposed by organisers – which the Met police said would have been in the vicinity of a synagogue.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250118-thousands-join-london-pro-palestinian-rally-on-eve-of-gaza-truce
https://archive.ph/Col8s

Two Iranian supreme court judges shot dead
Ali Razini and Mohammad Moghiseh were killed after a gunman entered the court, in the capital Tehran, on Saturday morning. The attacker killed himself while fleeing the scene, according to the judiciary's news website, Mizan. A bodyguard was also injured in the attack. The motive for the attack is unclear, but both judges are said to have played a role in the crackdown on opponents of the Islamic government since the 1980s.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4mvllgd1mo

Palestinian Authority, Jenin fighters reach deal after weeks of deadly clashes
Salah, head of the committee, told Anadolu that there would be no handover of weapons or members of armed groups, but the agreement stipulates an end to armed demonstrations and gives PA forces permission to enter the camp.
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'The Fight Continues' as Appeals Panel Rules Against DACA
Migrant rights advocates vowed to keep fighting after a federal appeals court on Friday dealt a blow to a program providing work permits and deportation relief to hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children—shortly before the Monday inauguration of Republican President-elect Donald Trump.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/deferred-action-for-childhood-arrivals

Women’s March lives on as the People’s March – at a fraction of the size of 2017
A flurry of pink pussy hats still featured in the diverse crowd in a chilly downtown Washington DC on Saturday as people held signs with messages such as “Abortion rights now”, “We will not be silent” and “Stop racism” and listened to a series of speakers calling Trump’s rightwing agenda against abortion rights, transgender rights and democratic norms dangerous, while urging people to “educate, activate, advocate”, although acknowledging that many progressives “are tired”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/18/womens-march-peoples-march

Trump plans crypto-friendly orders in first few days in power
Bloomberg News first reported on Thursday that Trump was planning to issue an executive order creating a crypto council, which would help advise the government on crypto-friendly policy. It could have as many as 20 members, according to one of the sources. Trump's advisers have also discussed using an executive order to direct the Securities and Exchange Commission to rescind 2022 accounting guidance known as "SAB 121" that has made it too costly for some companies, particularly banks, to hold cryptocurrencies on behalf of third parties, the people said.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/trump-plans-crypto-friendly-orders-first-few-days-power-2025-01-17/

Fema’s message to LA wildfire victims: ‘carefully consider’ GoFundMe appeals
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TYBNA

Erik Houdini on the Tiktok Ban
It’s strange how things shift. I remember as a kid marveling at the idea that 'authoritarian' countries abroad censored the internet. It felt like something out of a dystopian novel, real Brave New World shit. Back then, during the Stop SOPA/PIPA era, the internet was wild, open, and keeping it that way was fiercely defended. Countless websites blacked out in protest of SOPA/PIPA. Hundreds of youtubers raised awareness. Wikipedia even shutdown. People were ready to burn it all down to keep the internet free. But now? Things have shifted. Post-Trump, liberalism has morphed into this smug, elitist war machine. It’s all about "we’re the smart ones, the adults are in control" while propping up the same American imperialist foreign policy that’s been selling the "democracy" hustle for decades. And God help you if you criticize the media elites or the national security crowd—because somehow that makes you pro-Trump. They’ve turned dissent into a team sport. But let me make this clear: we’re communists. We don’t play that red vs. blue horseshit. We fight for the people, not the corporations or their government puppets. They’ve built their castles on the bones of the powerless, fueled wars for profit, and worn the mask of "freedom" as they ransacked countries. They’d love to sink their claws into China, paint it as another grand liberation, just like they did in Iraq or Afghanistan. But real shit?—they don’t control the narrative now. Their game is slipping. It’s not 2003 anymore.
https://erikhoudini.com/#on-the-tiktok-ban

France’s Parti Socialiste Agrees to Bad Deal With Macronists
To its allies, the center-left force’s stance on Bayrou is the sign of a dangerous breach in the NFP. “The Parti Socialiste has isolated itself from the left-wing alliance,” LFI caucus leader Mathilde Panot told journalists shortly after the no-confidence motion was defeated. “I’m all for a social conference on the retirement system, but is that worth a non-censure over the [general policy address]? I don’t think so,” wrote Lucie Castets, the NFP’s nominee for prime minister after the alliance emerged as the largest bloc in last summer’s snap elections, in a January 14 text to Faure, alluding to Bayrou’s concession to the Parti Socialiste. Revealed by Libération, Castets finished off her mePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna

Gracias a las noticias anon basado



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<It Never Rains In Southern California(But Man It Burns) edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth™

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>>2110851
>>2110853
Screenshot with no source and a pol screenshot.

>>2110987
Not new, just don't usually say nibba

>>2110345
blame the mfs that couldn't control themselves

>>2110770
Rosita because it's easy to make Mexican food vegetarian

More CPUSA follow the Democratd drivel:

This is where I stand. The 45th President, his power-hungry cronies taking positions of authority in his Cabinet and administration, and the majority of Republicans in Congress are a real and active threat to me, my way of life, and all or most of the people I love.

Some people are saying that we should give Trump a chance, that we should "work together" with him because he won the election, and he is "everyone's president."

This is my response:

•I will not forget how badly he and so many others treated former President Barack Obama for 8 years…Lies about his legitimacy and hatred for his principles and his attempts to work within the system.
•I will not "work together" to privatize Medicare, cut Social Security and Medicaid.
•I will not "work together" to subvert the Constitution by illegitimately pushing unfit Cabinet nominees through on recess appointments without the advice and consent of the Senate.
•I will not "work together" to build a wall.
•I will not "work together" to persecute Muslims.
•I will not "work together" to shut out refugees from other countries.
•I will not "work together" to lower taxes on the 1% and increase taxes on the middle class and poor.
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In reactionary systems, life is struggle, therefore, people must feel a constant state of insecurity, when a country starts its demographic transition, due to rural to urban exodus, there is a sudden fertility boom, as there is a sense of security but also of fear, which estimulates ovulation due to increased oxytocin levels.
Thus, females developed a mechanism where they produce kids if they need some guidance or defender within a family structure, or within a enviroment which is not familiar to you.
Eventually, due to increased comfort, the necessity to have kids becomes less prominent.
Nationalism and religion is born from a sense of integral identity, its irrational, its reactionary because it takes the least utilitarian elements and simplifies them to mere orders, among those, to instigate fear and dependence, its sloganery, to give rational explainations to the phenomenom of life, which is painful, is impossible, life is not utilitarian, it is egoistic and only replicates that which survives, regardless of the means it needs, even if its painful, or terrifying, or perverted.
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There is a specific subset of marxist that becomes a social darwinist reactionary by following certain logical premises.
Congrats op, you went through the marxism to fascism pipeline

wow another epic definetly not ideological and definetly not philosophical thread

>>2114198
>Go touch grass philosopher
>>2115805
>definetly not philosophical thread
this thread has nothing to do with philosophy, you booklet

>>2115808
this is pretty much sophistry

>>2116374
How is this sophistry



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You know how in old British fiction, the poor were described as eating in an ‘uncivilized manner?’ Well most people still eat like that today.
I think a bigger factor in North American obesity isn’t just the quantity of food people eat but how people eat. North Americans don’t really prepare food. They rarely wash their hands, they rarely eat with utensils, and they most certainly don’t wash their dishes afterwards.
There is little patience for food in North American society. People eat as if they’re heading off to a war. Understandably, this creates a culture of impulsivity with how people approach food. Foresight into things like nutrition, safety, and preference are disregarded for any immediate pleasure or comfort food can offer. I think that this mentality causes a lot of people to end up eating much more than they would if they were more patient about how they eat.

For reference, just look at Japan, some middle eastern, and some African countries. People there can be bothered to prepare food for themselves first before consuming in excess.

The average American barely knows how to use a knife.
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>>2116043
>yo-yo dieting which is ultimately worse for you than just staying fat
that's not true, exercising is always better than not exercising

What most people don't understand is that being fat is the direct result of a perpetually unhealthy body, where a calorie deficit doesn't fix the underlying problems. Malnourishment or a chronically slow metabolism are what prompt the body to build fat reserves, therefore despite a caloric surplus the nutritional needs of the body aren't met, causing stress, overeating and perpetually slow digestion. Fasting doesn't work in the long term, neither does keto. The only remedy is a vitamin, protein and mineral rich, high-caloric diet.
>>2117111
Exercise has some health benefits. Burning through the energy reserves of your muscles isn't one of them.

>>2117061
I always wonder why people like you care so much, is this a cover for fear? Not reading theory? Why are you moralizing over someone else’s health?

>>2117122
Butthurt fatty detected

>culture war over fucking cutlery
i wonder if youd have the same opinions of countries that eat using their (washed) hands directly



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First time going to a protest on January 20th. It’s a PSL organized thing but I’m hoping some other lefty groups show up so I can find one that aligns more with my specific beliefs. I’ve struggled to find anything besides the local DSA and PSL branches around me. But hey, if not, I can tolerate them long enough to protest against the incoming fascist state and possibly more in the future alongside them.

Any advice/thoughts?
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>>2116360
Prepare for the reality that card carrying socialists may soon be in danger
If the FBI could discover most of the members of the CPUSA back in the 50s they can do it again today, very easily

>>2116752
You are overreacting i think. Trump is not Hitler, he isn't going to round up socialists because socialists are not a real threat to capital right now.
Far-right terror in the US will come from paramilitaries. Still scary, but not the same as the government rounding up every socialist in the country.

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>>2116343
Do we even know who is this “Lefty Paul” person?

>>2117212
No idea Anon E. Moose.

>>2117229
Literally who?



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Remember: Maybe don't wait for Trump.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
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>>2116544
>china is administratively divided into regions with significant autonomy though
You know that's just for show right? It;=0>>2116868

>>2116865
Because Azov and the CIA is holding a gun to his head and will kill him if he pursues peace and his family is definitely embezzling money from the funds. Both carrot and stick working to the maximum.

>>2116853
>or Trump will escalate military support (as much as he can).
Clarity is good for a certain class of Kremlinoid who's still fixated on rapprochement with the Western partners. We may even end up getting a Kiev front instead of this embarrassing fight for an apartment block in Russian-heavy Ukraine. Only reason the Ukros even think they have a chance is that they've convinced themselves that they kicked Russia out of Kiev.

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>I talked with Mao and then suggested to Stalin that he receive him. He was a clever man, a peasant leader, a kind of Chinese Pugachev. He was far from a Marxist, of course–he confessed to me that he had never read Marx’s Das Kapital. When I was in Mongolia talking with the Chinese ambassador–he was nice to me–I said, “You want to create a metals industry quickly, but the measures you have planned–backyard blast furnaces–are improbable and won’t work.” I criticized the Chinese, and our people reproved me later. But it was such obvious stupidity!…Backyard blast furnaces to produce worthless metals–nonsense.”

<Felix Chuev, “Molotov Remembers: Inside Kremlin Politics” p. 81.


How do we deal with the fact that Mao, one of the theoretical figureheads of the movement to many Marxists, never read Marx in his life?

I always wondered why Mao was making up citations when quoting theory. Now I know it is because he never bothered to read it. Now in retrospect I can see why he was so adamant about "opposing book worship" which is antithetical to what Marx & Lenin taught and his "On Contradictions" fails to grasp what Marxist dialectics are.

So if a renowned revolutionary and theoretician like Mao could just get away with making shit up, doesn't that reflect bad on the movement in general? How are we to deal with revisionism today if we've accepted that of the past?
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>>2105592
>radlibs dunking on "maoists" not knowing what that means
>maoists being maoists

what does this have to do with deng lol. not knowing what third worldism is derailed their other thread so they now they are one step closer to disavowing marx, but first, before attacking who they actually disagree with, they have to alienate all their natural allies. the dialectics are in motion!

>>2105579
Holy shit a leftypol thread where i agree with an ancap the most. Gonna kms

>>2105340
>Now in retrospect I can see why he was so adamant about "opposing book worship" which is antithetical to what Marx & Lenin taught
Have you read it? Its about not worshipping words on paper but actually thinking through it and validating if it is true or not. You know, because imperial china had a millenia long culture of just reciting quotes from old philosophers as a measure of intelligence, and took them as truth.
>and his "On Contradictions" fails to grasp what Marxist dialectics are.
Explain.

>>2107246
>Why would mao propose a comprise when trying to build a coalition with the petit bourgoiesie and national bourgoiesie, in the book "on coalition government"? It truly is a mystery, he must just not be a marxist at all.

Mao is very explicit in the way that the proletarian ideology is to be adopted by the oppressed masses

>>2105844
>2; in countries like china and russia the feudal reaction was so strong and the bourgeoisie was so weak that the bourgeoisie was failing to complete its necessary historical role, and so
And o mensheviks were right? I don't say that as an attack. It's that you are implying the bolshevik startegy was rushed towards building socialism. Which may be true.
>Why did the (whether or not socialist in practice) socialist-led revolutions mostly take place in the most reactionary feudal countries? Why did they fail in more developed imperial core countries?
Cause socialists "hijacked" the burgeois/capitalists revolutions of those states. But socialist revolutions also happened in industrialised states. And in varied forms too. It's just that they were all crushed.
>The international bourgeoisie were never going to be supportive of the USSR. They invaded with a 14 nation coalition.
That was after the bolsheviks made Russia pull out of WWI. Before that they were trying to butter up the socialists. You are kinda right but fotget that capitalists countries would support a socialist revolution somewhere if it would mean an instant geopolitical advantage somehow.
>would the socialist government of the USA really agree to pay off the trillions in debt accrued by the bourgeois government?
It would be the greatest betrayal to the working class of the whole world (including China) if a socialist government tried to pay the US debt.
>If not, it might create a pretext for war with AES countries like China
Well, then I hope the workers in China would know that they would be sent to die in a war for the money of chinese capitalists.



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>>2115771
nooooooooo its the libtard westoids who did this my brown pets would never be gay hookers

>>2117043
cant wait for the thieves guild and the mercenary union!

>>2117043
>Clown world shit
stfu twitter user

>>2117062
>You can't be communist and be pro-sex work. That's liberal shit.
ftfy moralist

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>>2117062
>Moralism



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If you increase the supply of residential and commercial space in any given settlement, people tend to become invisible, but buildings remain in clear sight everywhere. Countries like Russia, Ukraine, Canada, many African countries, and the midwestern part of the USA all have so many of these spaces. Meanwhile, countries in like japan, India, china, every European country ever, and much of South America you see people everywhere and outside.

It’s not just that most of the former countries are cold, but that they’re overbuilt. Canadians in particular almost never go outside. You can drive for dozens of minutes here and not see a single person even in some of our more populated settlements. It’s fucking creepy.

Why the hell is there no discussion on this effect?
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>>2116895
But those spaces have community. They don’t look empty at a street level like in the USA.

>>2116898
>community
lol what does this concretely mean
pseuds here treat china the same way 4chin treats japan

>>2116903
Chinese people have social lives and some understanding of what the hell is going on in their own neighborhood

The average American is lucky to understand the politics of their own state

>>2116908
>Chinese people are wealthy proper citizens
>Americans are poor and disengaged from democratic duties
You make it sound like America is more ripe for communism than China, lol.

>>2103753
Everywhere in my neighborhood looks "empty" but then you go to the park and you find out there's like 50 people there and they all drove there and then got out.



 

Why has Western culture (Anglo culture in particular) so heavily embraced infantilism and anti-intellectualism (both left and right)?

The right-wing is infantile because it has no solutions. Climate change is a tough issue to face. Capitalism reaching the point where it can no longer expand without falling into imminent crisis is a tough issue to face. The fact the straight white Christian male is no longer society's "default" is a tough issue to face. Because the right can't solve anything, it resorts to fomenting outrage – "transgender surgeries on illegal aliens", "Haitian immigrants are eating the dogs", "abortion up to the moment of birth", "trans people are brainwashing little kids into being trans", etc. Just look no further than Trump, whose entire political appeal is how much of an adult child he is. Or Ben Shapiro, who in spite of his "facts over feelings" mantra always sounds like he's on the verge of a temper-tantrum. Nearly all right-wing talking heads appeal to outrage and anti-intellectualism, being stupid and overly-emotional.

The left embraces infantilism because it's afraid of its own power. The left has the solutions, but is too chickenshit to implement them, because it assumes that once it takes power it now becomes just as evil as the people it's fighting against. "As soon as we have power and can do something we run the risk of doing the wrong thing, so in order to preserve our innocence we should just do nothing." In fact, I'd go so far as to say this obsession with preserving one's innocence has become the entire MO of the left for the past 10 or 11 years, which in effect breeds infantile thinking – "how can we do evil if we are nothing more than children?" Identity politics has become entirely about wanting permission to be a child whereby idpolers leverage their identities as means of not having to be proactive and take charge of their lives. They want to remain mentally and emotionally 10 years old forever.

But all of this has become incredibly toxic in-practice and infantilism has lead to many toxic things: narcissism, solipsism, the inability to understand the world beyond your initial emotions. No one can handle the confusion of the modern world so they resort to being child-like as a shield. A child is never expected to fix the world or take responsibility or pick up their own poop. What infantile people want is to be allowed to play without needing to deal with the world around them.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2116514
A lot of scientific theories are difficult to understand without knowing the history of their development and the basic philosophies of science to get a handle on the actual meanings of the terms being utilized; laymen Americans (subhumans) aren’t capable of engaging with science on this, or really any level, because every level of their society discourages introspection and contemplation.

Nothing is grand or noble about living like an animal, not a thought in the mind. If Americans, even American “leftists” want to live like cattle, grazing, thoughtless, they shouldn’t complain when their rulers continuously gut their wages and prepare them for the slaughterhouse.

>>2116572
>see marx is wrong about the proletariat lying outside bourgeois society because the government calls them citizens!
lol this place never ceases to amaze

>>2116568
>you need dialectics to understand what he is doing
lmfaooooooooo another classic leftoid example of mistaking form for content. you dont need fucking philosophy to understand marx, much less to be a communist

>>2116702
This is the sort of thing that happens when you start seeing Marx as a prophet and start telling yourself the man did not use similes, metaphors, or hyperbolic statements to make a point
It’s the sort of thing that leads you, a subhuman, to accidentally claiming something that is aggressively retarded, such as most proletarians….not being proletarians

It’s also worth noting that when the Marx wrote his various works, mass democracy did not exist even in most of Europe

>>2116525
its fine, i should have clarified in the first place because its not an obvious distinction i was making. and for the most part i just prefer not to refer to "intellectuals" as a distinct sector of the population because its vague and potentially means "anyone who studies more seriously and more extensively than is strictly required of them" even though it usually just means "those people i dont like who study things wrong/study the wrong things"

i think academia is a much better target for criticism because it is an identifiable institutional sector and refers to people with particular occupations, much more substance for critique than referring to entire disciplines of thought that rarely have strict boundaries or definitions in the first place

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