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ITT: we come up with direct replacements for misleading, recuperated, overly-verbose or scary socialist terms.

This isn't for anti-censorship codewords or downplaying our values, this is about sharing words and phrases that avoid someone mid-conversation having to ask "what the fuck is a 'proletariat'?", and "aren't dictatorships bad, even if the dictator is a proletarian?", confusions which could all be avoided by not being out-of-touch academic wankers.

comic rel is obviously a joke, don't be an idiot and waste time critiquing it.
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>>2568420
vanguard (of the working class) -> forefront, thought leaders, natural leaders

disambiguate private/personal property into personal property (things you own and use) and socially productive property (things that produce goods or services for the market)

organize (as an imperative) -> find out how you can support local socialists/communists/anarchists/people-feeding-the-hungry

organize (as an answer to "how can you make this happen?") -> connect with likeminded people, educate others, defend and support the vulnerable and poor in our communities, fight fascism, win the people's trust, govern by putting the working class's needs first, step by step transition to socialism

mass line -> solicit complaints and get to the root of problems

proletariat -> working people

bourgeoisie -> the super-rich

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>just go back to pre-scientific socialism, let's mistify Marxism even more, let's just confuse the everliving shit out of everybody instead of just taking the Communist Programme and its language - this will SURELY help the movement
are you all retarded? genuinely asking?

>>2570944
There's so much aggregated crap, wrongheadedness, disastrous failure, backwards-looking cultishness, and go-nowhere definition debates that it's easy to answer your strawman question with: yes.

There is no movement. There are barely movements capable of building the groundwork for a movement. There are millions of good people who basically vibe with the idea of socialism/communism, which is when the world isn't as shit as the status quo, and there are hundreds of thousands of stupid idiots (many on this website) who are very arrogant because they've got ideas and words floating about in their do-nothing heads. Knowing that the dictatorship of the proletariat is a special snowflake meaning of dictatorship different to the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein (wait, no, critical support for him against US imperialism!) or whatever does nothing to bring communism any closer.

Point me to a real movement that abolishes the present state of things. $80 if you pick something other than a foreign government which conveniently lets you outsource your ideological battles like they're the manufacture of cheap cutlery.

>>2568432
That is not how the average normie will react. It's probably just going to make them more confused.



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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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>>2530185
It's a useful moral bludgeon and the one crime decades of bourgeois propaganda have made basically indefensible in the public sphere. Imo the current groundswell of hype for it is mostly due to reactionaries weaponizing it against sexual minorities.

The US govt will be making pedophilia mandatory before you know it.

>>2495370
4chan was always a pedo apologist site, but the claim that anti-immigration sentiment came from fucking /pol/ is hilarious.

>>2495370
Cultural hegemony is rooted in the material conditions. There is no material base that promotes the acceptance of pedophilia to the degree they want. As much as children are property under the family, children just can't do domestic labor that well and do not fit the material needs of the family.

>>2571550
>The US govt will be making pedophilia mandatory before you know it.
Really?



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It doesn't matter: our entire societal system is fundamentally unfair and built on deception.

True merit-based justice largely vanished with the end of the Paleolithic era. Hunter-gatherer societies maintained actual equality through mobility, immediate-return sharing, and active resistance to dominance—creating an immediate, authentic egalitarianism rooted in face-to-face relations.

Anthropological evidence from modern foragers and archaeological insights suggests low inequality, with mechanisms like ridicule or ostracism preventing hierarchy.

The Neolithic Revolution introduced agriculture, surpluses, and storable wealth around 10,000 years ago, enabling private property, land accumulation, and deepening stratification.

This trend intensified over millennia, entrenching systemic unfairness.

Marxist communism cannot replicate this authentic Paleolithic egalitarianism, as it advocates a large-scale, anonymous societal machine, ultimately producing new hierarchies, as historical implementations and critiques (e.g., anarchist views on state coercion) demonstrate.

This isn't a left-right issue: both sides accept the post-Paleolithic framework, debating adjustments rather than its core inequities.
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>>2614431
even if they weren't perfect, they still had less inequality than, for example, the USA. Soviet education was free, soviet healthcare was free. In China today, homeownership rate is higher and homelessness lower. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. That sounds liberal, but I'm using it to contrast proletarian dictatorships with bourgeois dictatorships, rather than contrasting two bourgeois parties.

>>2614429
Life in the Paleolithic era was certainly harsh and short. But the people in Paleolithic society had real, organic solidarity. Modern Marxist solidarity, by contrast, is an artificial, anonymous product. Ironically, it is completely alienated because it is the product of anonymous power structures. What good is material prosperity to us if we lack true solidarity and have only a cheap, artificial imitation of it?

>>2614439
mystical ouin ouin

>>2614425
>Both systems are essentially the same: anonymous machines of exploitation
Marx says:
<What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

>In a Paleolithic society, I would have had the opportunity to punch anyone directly in the face who harms or oppresses me.

it would be laughably easy for you to die as an infant before having the "opportunity" to do anything since infant mortality was very high. You would also have the "opportunity" to be molested or maimed by your parents and tribe since there are no legal proceedings against such behaviors. You would also have the "opportunity" to get killed by a wild animal as a child, die of starvation when local forage is depleted, freeze to death due to inadequate clothing, or die of a simple rhinovirus.

>>2614439
>What good is material prosperity to us if we lack true solidarity and have only a cheap, artificial imitation of it?
I would much rather have clothes and shelter and be able to argue with you over the internet than have "paleolithic solidarity" whatever that means. See >>2614442



 

Today a very much of fictitious "value" was loss on them Wall StreetZ thx to Trumpfgd's tariff's on Choynah. The US A"I" conglomerate is a complete bubble. Laydowns going on in the US. Real estate market status in US: fugged.

Let's celebrate the impovireshment of the first world while China keeps rising! Please post them stonks & predictions.

This is a pro-eggplant/brinjal/aubergine 🍆 thread and also anti-tomato 🍅 thread. Please respexts these common sense sensibilities. Thx.
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Central Banks all over the world in panic mode ditching dollar for precius metals due to USA trade wars and its economy entering sagflation. Also AI bubble is making silver more valuable as its used in electronics widely and is a potential bottleneck resource for the industry.

>>2614061
It's just a nuisance, chill the fuck out, lmao

USA ECONOMIC INDICATORS FORECAST (Q1-Q2 2026)
< INDICATOR FORECAST TREND
> Real GDP Growth 1.5% - 1.9% (Annualized)
<Slowing / Below Trend
> Inflation (CPI/PCE) 2.9% - 3.5%
<Sticky / Elevated
> Unemployment Rate 4.5% - 4.7% <Rising Modestly
> Fed Funds Rate 3.25% - 3.75%
<Gradual Cuts
> Consumer Spending 1.6% Growth
<Weak / Decelerating
> Business Investment High (AI/Tech driven)
<Divergent (Booming)

>>2614077
All looks good, chill the fuck out, lmao

>>2614080
keep coping bourgesisiecuck



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Russian opposition leader sentenced to six years in prison
Sergei Udaltsov, the leader of the Left Front movement that opposes Putin and is affiliated with the Communist party, was arrested last year. … Udaltsov has rejected the charges against him as fabricated. On Thursday, he denounced the verdict as “shameful” and said he was going on a hunger strike, Mediazona reported. According to the court ruling, the activist will be serving his sentence in a maximum security penal colony.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/25/sergei-udaltsov-terrorism

Northern Ireland: Two Irish Republicans Sentenced to Long Prison Terms
Shea Reynolds and Dee (Damian) Duffy, Irish republicans sentenced to 11 and a half and 12 and a half years in prison respectively, received their sentences on December 19, 2025, following a trial held before a court without a jury in Belfast. They were accused of installing a surveillance camera in the driveway of a retired police officer’s home in Northern Ireland to gather information for an operation against him.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/26097/

Four Palestine Action hunger strikers vow to continue as two pause protest
“The remaining four will continue to refuse food on the basis of [their] demands,” the group said on Tuesday.
The hunger strikers are demanding immediate bail, the right to a fair trial, and for the UK to de-proscribe Palestine Action, which it outlawed as a “terror” group in July. For their part, the pro-Palestinian group says the UK government is complicit in Israeli war crimes committed in Gaza.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/24/four-palestine-action-hunger-strikers-vow-to-continue-as-two-pause-protest
https://archive.ph/jTrsy

Russia reportedly mediating security pact between Israel and Syria with US approval
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US Sends Special Operations Aircraft to Puerto Rico for Venezuela Campaign
Five MC‑130J Commando II aircraft were identified in satellite imagery this week by open‑intelligence analyst account LatAmMilMVMTs, which tracks military movements across Latin America, showing them parked at Rafael Hernández International Airport in Puerto Rico.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-special-operations-aircraft-puerto-rico-venezuela-campaign-11269962
https://archive.ph/GNeoO

Trump says US launched strike against ISIL in northwest Nigeria
Trump said ISIL fighters had “‌targeted and viciously” killed “primarily, innocent Christians, at ⁠levels not seen for many years, and even Centuries!” “I have previously warned these Terrorists that if they did not stop the slaughtering of Christians, there would be hell to pay, and tonight, there was,” Trump said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/25/trump-says-us-launched-strikes-against-isil-in-northwest-nigeria
https://archive.ph/nNRNr

US labor unions gear up to fight against Trump’s ‘Billionaire First’ agenda
Donald Trump has staged a year of “unrelenting attacks on working people,” according to the head of the largest federation of the labor unions in the US. Now they’re preparing to fight back. Liz Shuler, president of the AFL-CIO, said it was gearing up to challenge the US president’s “Billionaire First” agenda in 2026 – and drive candidates in key elections to stand up for “struggling” Americans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/25/trump-labor-unions-afl-cio

US judge rejects business group's challenge to Trump's $100,000 H-1B visa fee
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Episode 65 - No Future feat. Adam Curtis (12/12/16) (Chapo Trap House )
We got to interview one of Will’s favorite filmmakers Adam Curtis about his new movie HyperNormalisation. We talk about Trump, the curse of bloodless liberalism, science fiction, Escape From New York, living in the Zone, and tough medicine for the left.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-65-no-future-feat-adam-curtis-121216
[HyperNormalisation]: https://archive.org/details/hyper-normalisation-2016-subs-by-adam-curtis-a-different-experience-of-realit

Redacting Our Reality, One Epstein at a Time
Another Lucy with the football moment has occurred in the United States. Less than 1% of the Epstein file information has been released, and what was offered to the public emptied out all the black ink cartridges in the greater DC area. This, in a long line of dashed liberal dreams, whether it be Special Counsel investigations, the hope of criminal charges when new administrations come in…any number of just wait a bit and your patience will be rewarded aspirations. But the thing is, this day of reckoning just never seems to materialize. This realization only lands after countless hours, days and weeks are spent waiting for Daddy to come home and make it right. By the time this is understood, a new hope is on the horizon—perhaps an unrigged primary, a new set of possible criminal charges for war crimes. This time will be different, they think. This is the way most human minds seem to work. If you aren’t getting justice today, just wait. It will show up eventually., You will be rewarded in the afterlife or perhaps post-midterms. Just not today.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/12/25/redacting-our-reality-one-epstein-at-a-time/

Left? Right? Anti-semitic? Not anti-semitic?
Traditionally, the far right has been the main repository of anti-semitic ideas (conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial, racial stereotypes) and practice (discrimination, abuse, physicPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna



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How is mathematics as something that is free of contradictions able to reliably describe the material world that is inherently founded on contradictions, as dialectical materialism claims?
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>How is mathematics as something that is free of contradictions
Unprovable statement, dummy

>>2611764
truth nuke. perfectly put.
>>2612366
he couldn't answer.

>>2609070
Absolutely nothing in this world is free of contradictions

>>2612700
only if you stop thinking immediately: it follows that mathematics is tautologically that which is not contradictory.

>>2614033
even this statement?



 

>Liquidators
<Guys who wanted to do everything legally with no illegal work
>Recallists
<Guys who wanted to do everything illegally with no legal work

How was this even a controversy in the RSDLP? Like obviously you need to do both legal and illegal work. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills learning about this shit.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1911/jun/18.htm

>“renunciation of the illegal Social-Democratic Party, the belittling of its role and importance, attempts to cur tail the programmatic and tactical tasks and slogans of revolutionary Social-Democracy” are a manifestation of bourgeois influence over the proletariat. The only true Social-Democratic activity is that which recognises the danger of this deviation and of any ideological and political trend that is otzovist or justifies otzovism, and which really overcomes such deviations.


>Anyone who to this day regards “otzovism” as a “legitimate trend in our Party” takes the name of the R.S.D.L.P. in vain. You cannot conduct Party work in the elections to the Fourth Duma unless you most resolutely refuse to have anything to do with such people. He who to this day talks of conducting the Fourth Duma election campaign with the forces and resources of “legally functioning organisations”, with the forces and resources of an “open workers’ party”, and who at the same time refuses to abide by and carry out the decisions of the R.S.D.L.P. on the illegal organisation and the tactics as set forth in the Party’s resolutions, takes the name of the R.S.D.L.P. in vain. He who carries on election activity and does not abide by the decisions of the R.S.D.L.P., but follows the line proposed in articles appearing in Nasha Zarya, Golos Sotsial-Demokrata and Dyelo Zhizni, is a builder of a Stolypin “labour” party, and not of the revolutionary Social-Democratic party of the proletariat.

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99% of Leninists quit just before the struggle becomes illegalist enough to overthrow existing conditions



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Future of the GOP Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2613416
Grow up!

>>2613417
>said unironically after coming to the defense of a guy arguing that I "resemble zionists" because I said a basic fact about US history (it was founded as a secular bourgeois republic with freedom of religion)

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>>2613656
Keep wrecking

>>2613309
Just normal non-liable sexual harassment, though there's something weird going on behind the veil because a bunch of former LTT hosts have being fired and have since started their own youtube channels over the last few months. Like 3 or 4 regular hosts.



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2604681
Here's some art from an exhibition of DPRK art in Moscow from this September

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NEW DPRK EXPLAINED VIDEO JUST DROPPED

>>2613205
>>2613199
These are great anon, thanks for sharing! The contemporary uniforms, archtecture and clothing are very interesting to see. Love that they made a painting of Kim's beerhall lmao.

I'm not too much of a fan of the more painterly/impressionistic stuff here. It's bordering a bit too much on Kincaid for me, tho it's still nice in a way. The realism stuff is always fantastic, that lady with the cows is beautiful work, probably my favorite. The depiction of that parade is amazing, very impressive

>>2613915
Is the DPRK a wodigger state?



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As a communist I wanna know where you guys‘s opinions on gun rights are i’m personally against gun but apparently Marx what’s pro gun so I just wanna know if you guys thought
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>>2613483
That’s true, I just dislike when rightoids buy guns just to make themselves feel strong

>>2613543
Shooting and hunting are fine by themselves but rightoids ruined it

>>2613548
decadent bourgeois hobbies

>>2613550
Venison is perfectly edible and unfortunately humans killed all the natural predators of deer, thinning the herd is an objective social snd environmental good. An armed proletariat has to have some small arms marksmanship, I guess aluminum cans are treatler.

>>2613362
You are giving arguments for the bourgeois state to disarm the workers. The state is not a neutral entity and it cannot have any opportunity to subdue the workers. Scientific socialism and revolutionary socialism are incompatible with any demand to empower the bourgeois state to repress the workers and take away their independence so that the proletarian class cannot organize, arm itself, and seize power to disarm the bourgeois class and its agents.

I will begin with texts of demands in the political program of Marx and Engels that demonstrate this position:

<4. Universal arming of the people. In future armies shall at the same time be workers’ armies so that the armed forces will not only consume, as in the past, but produce even more than it costs to maintain them.


<Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels March, 1848, Demands of the Communist Party in Germany


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm

<The French socialist workers, in adopting as the aim of their efforts the political and economic expropriation of the capitalist class and the return to community of all the means of production, have decided, as a means of organization and struggle, to enter the elections with the following immediate demands:


<A. Political Section

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