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Without covid and the lockdowns, we would not know the following
>our lives mustn't be organized around our workplaces
>leisure time is good, actually
>the enviroment regenerates relatively quickly without industrial human activity
>a centrally coordinated global initiantive is possible
It's great. The lockdown showed us communism is possible. The schizos were right, but it a different way than they expected.

Learn biohacking so you can create your own Covid 2.0.



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I was going to post this in /usapol/ but effort posts usually get buried so bare with me. I just want some opinions on this draft of some thoughts:

The capitalist class operates with little regard for borders, a fluidity it leverages to its advantage. The entire United States functions as a network of neocolonies—these states host governments that do not represent their people, but rather the corporations that operate within them. The majority of the population is exploited within this system; in fact, only a privileged 10% truly benefit from the capitalist-imperialist economy.

Beneath this broadly exploited class lies a layer of the hyper-exploited, who form the core source of slave labor for this anti-life regime. This super-exploitation is manufactured along racial, gender, and other lines, a deliberate construct of capitalism's superstructure. The rise of a hyper-militarized "War from Within," waged by agencies like ICE, makes this brutally clear. Hispanic people—and by extension, Indigenous people, as the term "Hispanic" is itself a colonizer label invented in the 1970s to impose a European (Spanish) heritage—are primary targets. Even the spectacle of Proud Boys leaders who identify as Hispanic cannot obscure this systemic reality; it only reiterates the haunting contradictions we must confront.

This pattern is rooted in an unfinished past. The first American Revolution of 1776 was ultimately a war over which faction of the capitalist class would control the colonies. While it included a small but notable faction of true people's revolutionaries—figures like Thomas Paine, who argued for abolishing slavery from the outset—they failed. Their defeat meant the people's revolution was never completed.

Therefore, we are not simply communists or anarchists, though we may be influenced by both. We are abolitionists. Our purpose is to finish that people's revolution and free this land from capital's control.

This struggle did not begin with us, nor did it pause after 1776. It is a continuous thread woven through this land's history: in the pan-tribal resistance led by Tecumseh, in the stunning victory of Indigenous nations at the Battle of Little Bighorn, in the bloody righteousness of Nat Turner’s rebellion, and in John Brown’s holy war against chattel slavery. The Civil War itself contained revolutionary, abolitionist currents that were ultimately subverted by capital, which traded chattel slavery for the prison oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2536475
It’s not just a “flaw”, it was the entire goal of the rebellion. Yes, you had black and white collaborating but they weren’t about to set up a socialist state. The critique built into the revolt was that “colonialism hasn’t gone far enough”. There was never any hope of indigenous collaboration.

>>2536413
any "national narrative" of America seeks to maintain the legitimacy of America as a concept. It is the opposite of what is necessary to achieve the dismantling of America and its rotten institutions that make life living hell for everyone including Americans.

Houdini, I agree with you about needing a new narrative about the place we call America. Its important for normies to be able to identify with lefty ideas. One of the great successes of the Communist Party of China was to make Marxism understandable and relatable to normal Chinese people in the 1920s. One master of this was Li Lisan, a rival to Mao and an early leader of the party.

When he was teaching coal miners, he dressed like a traditional intellectual and spoke about Marx and Marxism in a way that related to the culturally dominant schools of philosophy – Confucianism and Daoism. By connecting Marx to Chinese norms, he was able to recruit a lot of coal miners to his cause. You can read about this in Elizabeth Perry's book, Anyuan, which discusses Li's early years as a labor organizer in Chinese coal mines. You should be able to find the PDF online at the usual places.

In the American context, when you talk about the American Revolutionn, one thing that I think could be interesting for you is the idea of popular sovereignty. This is an idea that became popular after the Revolutionary War as people were thinking about how to legitimate the new government when there wasn't a king anymore as the source of absolute power. In a way, I see the armed uprisings of the 1960s, even in black and brown communities as a continuation of this tradition.

>"Throughout American history, the idea that it could be legitimate and justified for groups of citizens to take up arms against the government was not at all unusual. Such ideas date back to the birth of the United States through the American Revolution against the rule of the British sovereign, King George III. As the legal historian Christian G. Fritz details in his book American Sovereigns: The People and America’s Constitutional Tradition Before the Civil War (2008), even after the drafting of the federal Constitution, a significant portion of the American public believed that the ultimate source of the law was the people at large.

The genuinely revolutionary character of this idea shouldn’t be underrated. In colonial America the sovereign, or ultimate source of the law, had been the monarch seated at the Court of St. James in London. The king stood above the law, and the government ruled in his name – hence “His Majesty’s government.” After the American Revolution, the drafters of the new republic’s highest laws fixed this same sovereignty iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2535880
You wrote a long, intelligent materialist analysis clearly laying out the primary strategy of bourgeois rule in the US (divide and conquer, super-exploitation alongside a relatively comfortable sub-section of the proletariat), and then stained it with idealist academic shit. You can get away with never saying "we must therefore view" or "hauntological" ever again. There's nothing that's added by imagining a future from a past that didn't happen. The strength here is the materialist analysis that correctly analyzes still existing contradictions and strategies. It's like those pomo fake marxists who say "imaginary futures" to cover up their lack of program for dealing with the present and it's immediate challenges.

Maybe we should view it through a lens of the present as it is. What we see is that the issue today is still to fight against the super-exploitation of some groups within the proletariat in order to liberate the whole class. I'd also advise you to read Principles of Communism, because it talks a little bit about socialist transition. We don't need utopianism, we just need to resolve the issues right in front of us in favor of the workers; this will destabilize the capitalist system and open up further issues, and the process of resolving them all as they come up, in favor of the working class, is the process of socialist transition.

We're not haunted by futures that didn't happen (whatever that means - you know deep down it's just an academic's flourish), we're haunted by the past and it's troubling to me that you lay out a whole post on the past only to bring out the concept of anything other than that same past haunting our present. You're weakening your message by hiding a seed of idealism in it out of intellectual vanity.

>>2535880
good essay but you repeated a few parts -

It sort of sounds like you think the liberal revolution was never really completed - I agree this was true for most America's history but after civil rights and sharecropping ended in the 1950s-1960s, America did come closer to being a true "bourgeois" liberal democracy - The revolution of 1968 sort of completed the revolution of 1776 in your terminology.



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>ignoring the facts that roughly a third of global nukes/hypersonic ballistics would fail to even launch (and that’s a low estimate) or the fact that plenty would miss, the primary targets of the ones that would succeed in launching would be other missiles, silos, or relevant military infrastructure with civilian infrastructure a secondary target.
>even with the fraction of nukes that do hit civilian settlements, the actual initial death toll and destruction is limited to 0.5-5 million globally and concentrated destruction of core downtowns. Not dozens to hundreds of millions right away or full cities vaporized. Ignoring evacuation and emergency responses that already cushion death tolls, most cities today are heavy as shit and larger than ever. Any modern bomb powerful enough to leave only a crater of a dense city hundreds of kilometres in area is a weapon of fiction.
>don’t assume that an operation impossible situation is going to be some spectacle. For obvious logistical and communication reasons between launch teams, the duration such a war would last at minimum would be 36-48 hours rather than a couple minutes just so launch teams have enough time to aim and adjust their weapons properly. Youd have well more than enough time to escape or know when shits hitting the fan.
I’m not writing this to sound optimistic about nuclear war. Just cynical about the outcome of it given that the ecological and political fallout of a full scale war would be worse than the devastation itself. If you think the past 30 years haven’t seen NATO allied states and the eastern bloc face increasing political isolation from the rest of the planet, expect that increase to exponentiate with the number of world leaders and civilians pissed over why major cities are irradiated shitholes and why nuclear powers lack the professionalism to use restraint with WMDs.
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one major issue i haven't seen brought up much with nukes is naval warfare. It might be entirely feasible to have limited nuclear war using nuclear tipped missiles to knock out flees in the middle of the ocean without it being a major escalation risk.

>>2536593
Based Analysis Comrade, Global Nuclear War wont just allow for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, its limited Cooling affects (not the scary “Nuclear Winter” conspiracy theory the MSM peddles, but just some cooler Winters with more Snow and Rain) will also completely reverse Global Warming, like, the International Haute Bourgeoise and their MSM and Quack “Scientist” puppets don’t want you to know that Nuclear War will literally save the Environment from Global Warming and stop the Ice sheets from melting and the Sea levels from rising, like, it is literally the most Environmentally sustainable thing Humanity can do in the 21st Century, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2536503
Yeah, my "wtf" moment was when Putin said that a few Oreshniks with a conventional or gravity warhead have the same effect as a tactical nuclear weapon. Isn't that an odd thing to say even given that tactical nukes don't have the power of strategic nukes? Tactical nukes are claimed to have at least the power of the nukes dropped on Japan…

>>2536574
Yeah and what we’ve seen are that nukes aren’t takin out whole cities forever or causing world ending damage. I don’t even want to hear anything about Japan because that country was firebombed for days well after the bombs dropped and that sustained firebombing left far more damage than the nukes ever did—mind you this was also when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also at a fraction of the size they’re today.

>>2536593

Most other species would be driven into extinction too. And then whatever evolves after that will be more or less the same as what came before.



 

*This is mainly targeted towards zoomers on TikTok

Practically all leftist "propaganda edits" have been filtered towards slop copies of whatever the far right has been doing for the past few years;

The right starts making little dark age edits with World War 2 movies? The left copies that, only changing it from the German sided perspective to the Soviet,

The right starts putting shitty statistics over nature scenarios with nightcore blasting through? The left copies it, only changing the statistic and adding a ushanka to the retarded greek statue reaction image,

The right starts doing Agartha/Hyperborea edits? The left copies it, only changing the symbolism from the Black Sun to Red Shambhala (And yes, I know the whole Red Shambhala thing is supposed to be a parody of that),

What the fuck are we doing in that department? Any suggestions?
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>>2536374
Actual praxis IE Permacultre, squatting that creates a culture in which short-form/easily digestible content is impossible in the first place; Start planting beans even if you have to squat for it.

if it works and makes communism more popular it's fine by me. fascists spent the 20th century emulating communist tactics and organization not just because they LARPed as revolutionaries but because they worked.

>>2536374
>alt right
>alt

Also everyone appropriates from everyone does reactionaries stealing socialist aesthetics and pro-worker rhetoric bringing reactionaries closer to the left ? No it doesn’t lol same goes for us

>>2536374
Many memes that people think are rightoid memes actually have apolitical origins but the rightoids have simply decided to be more prolific about posting them.

Rightoids have merged with degen online meme culture to the point where they appear to be one and the same. In particular they merged with the edgy, ultra violent heavy aesthetic you are describing. The modern rights internet presence is like a new blend of child pornogrpahy, extreme gore, heavy music, nightcore, rape and anime girls with pagan and catholic imagery.

Iike this is just what “the right” is now. Other political factions are going to make memes obviously but this neo-neo-sincery post-post-ironic obsession with violence, rape and nazism is a logical continuation of internet culture and it’s not different from /pol/ acting like a cancer on 4chan to having fully metastasized into the rest of the internet, which has similarly matured into a place where extreme content is reproduced and amplified.



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Why isn't the European left more anti-Amerikkkan? The Amerikkkan empire is the main force holding back the rest of the world, including Europe, from socialism and revolution thorough covert support for reactionaries and capitalists. Amerikkkan troops in Europe are also massive rapists and criminals who abuse civilians.

They are too busy smearing poorer and less developed places that are trying to liberate themselves from the american empire.

the Europeans who were anti-American lost in the late eighties. The victorious American imperialist compradors have intensified the struggle to eliminate the vestiges of the anti-American movement ever since. By the 2010s, they had already achieved complete success.
Now, even an independentist position held by a centre-right conservative like De Gaulle is seen as 'russophilic and sinophilic' and a threat against 'muh liberal democracy, muh globalised (in reality servility to amerikkka) progress'

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>>2536540
>centre-right conservative
>'muh liberal democracy, muh globalised (in reality servility to amerikkka) progress'
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>>2536540
>Now, even an independentist position held by a centre-right conservative like De Gaulle is seen as 'russophilic and sinophilic'

This is true. Lol for example both socdems and conservatives in Germany have had their gaullist wings splintered off, even forming new parties.

>>2536575
they were talking about De Gaulle.



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It turns out that Norway's SWF almost has more money per capita than Norwegian private wealth, that is to say, its material base is such that it can realize PDD, with 2 trillion in the SWF vs about 500 billion GDP.

Roedt seems to be doing adequately, but how good are the revolutionary conditions there? I normally wouldn't advocate first world revolution, whether by the bullet or the ballot, but that 2 trillion is tempting as all hell.

Norwegian are Strasserites par excellence.

Vikings then, vikings now, all their civilization is based in plunder, empty the country

Oil exporter.

Progress, their populist fascist party, ate the conservatives, but Roedt seems to have come out of nowhere with about 5% representation. I'm assuming private wealth inequality is high, as with the rest of the Scandinavian model, but income inequality is acceptable and the place is just a decaying Scandinavian social democracy.

The weirdness essentially comes out to the giant SWF. Good for Fascists, good for Communists too. It's a fight over the 2 trillion once their liberal center collapses.

Statistics show that 53% of private wealth is held by the top 10%, rising to 71% when you add the next decile.

Bottom 50% of the population averages 2% of total wealth. Gini 28, though.



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Why isnt there a history board here. Seems like it'd be one of the first things you'd add to a place called leftypol.

I am asking because I wanted to ask if anyone had any information on (preferably niche) zines or otherwise leftist periodicals that would have been active in 1973. I need it 4 stuff :^)

>another dead board

/edu/ is somewhat similar to this
>picrel
are you interested in tung padevat files and/or other official publications of Democratic Kampuchea?



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Consoomed By Greed Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2536149
real proles ride in the tachanka

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>>2535771
>This sounds identical to the defenses offered by Ukrainian guys who get called on their tattoos
speaking of he literally was praising azov battalion on reddit in 2019

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>>2535771
>This sounds identical to the defenses offered by Ukrainian guys who get called on their tattoos.

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>>2535844
>Practical Politics
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>>2535199
Their error was not starting an insurgent group, but waging insurgency wayyy before they even came close to being able to win, or even benefit from such a situation. Focoism won't work in the US. Really any strategies of protracted hot insurgency are doomed because of a lack of jungle and semi-feudal conditions. The type of party or insurgent group we need is one that accumulates forces until it's strong enough to transition to the offensive. It has to focus on gaining moral supremacy among the people and educating workers. Every action has to be broadly popular to the most oppressed. Some examples of their day to day activity might be face to face educational work, organizing community self defense, striking military infrastructure involved in unpopular war (like those manufacturing weapons for Israel), liberating the most infamous prisons and camps, engaging in mutual aid (within the party or front orgs/societies also involved in political education to ensure mutuality, as opposed to charity) that goes beyond food pantries, e.g. collective funds as insurance or loans, professionals donating their skills to other members, help with employment and housing, etc., and taxing harmful businesses where possible, meanwhile infiltrating local governments and essential infrastructure. Eventually taking out and replacing whole precincts and possibly councils if they seem unable to represent the people due to inbuilt undemocratic measures. Eventually engaging in socialist construction, e.g. undercutting monopolies with local small industry, building housing, expropriating landlords and monopolies (especially utilities), enforcing some changes to school curriculums, transferring surveillance apparatus to party control, setting up local munitions and weapons production, and creating recruitment pipelines in all captured institutions.



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>structural racism against black people isnt real because racism ended in 1964
>ummm all racism disappeared after the civil rights act after that everyone was equal
>actually racism IS REAL but it only ever happens to white people
>DEI IS STRUCTURALLY RACIST AGAINST WHITES WAKE UP WIGGAS!!!! WIGGER LIVES MATTER TOO ITS OKAI 2 B HECKIN WHITE!!!! THIS IS LE SOCIAL INJUSTICE

>>2536431
The problems of a 'merimutt.

structural racism isnt "real" as in its a loosely defined abstraction used more by people who want to join the middle classes, but racism is a much more concrete phenomenon



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>Blue Labour is a British campaign group and political faction that seeks to promote blue-collar and culturally conservative values within the British Labour Party – particularly on immigration, crime, EDI and community spirit – while remaining committed to labour rights and left-wing economic policies.
Is this the future of left-wing politics?
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>>2536233
Britain is going to break apart like Yugoslavia and it’ll be glorious

>>2536199
>>2536219
homophobic faggot

>>2536238
Cope and seethe

>>2536161
Future? this was the 90's and after. Are you legitimately retarded?

Jannies, /QDDTOT' this, probably some fag with a personality disorder sliding.

>>2536161
aren't they self-proclaimed corporatists ?



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