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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<South America edition



The American question is: how does a settler-imperialist nation transform itself into a decolonized socialist commonwealth without either reproducing the imperial form or fragmenting into balkanized enclaves that allow capital to reconstitute, while resolving the contradictions of internal colonization and liberating its external colonies, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
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>>2911538
because their corpo paymasters threw a fit probably, "if you give the proles $2000 nobody will ever want to work again!!!"

Chinese Deepseek just realized a model that has 1% the cost of the new OpenAI Astra but 98% of the performance. American Ai drones mad as hell.

>>2911479
the system works :^)

>>2911538
if i remember correctly the rotating villain manchin played his part in being the bad cop and negotiating it down to 1400

>>2911550
didn't they just do the same thing a few months ago?



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How do I do this? Im actively trying to persuade non-leftist circles into becoming communist weather it be groups dissatisfied with the right or general anti-establishemtarianism though it never works except a couple times
I usually never go ever on organized attacks against a certain im not a hacktivist and that’s not what I’m trying to do im trying to persuade people to join communism(even other leftists like demsocs) though what is it and how do I become one I guess I should probably read Marx though I just got to college so… also give me tips and advice
Thanks

>>2911466
Also should I start a YouTube channels?

Snca unless you overthrow the site's admin's you wont do anything

>>2911476
No I mean as in persuading people and maybe even starting my own vanguard

Is this possible in America?

>>2911611
With burgerville nothing is possible



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>>2911516
Whataboutism

>>2911517
it;s not
whataboutism passes blame by bringing up unrelated issue
<you're playing victim by bringing up our actions
<you're full of aids
is an example of whataboutism
<you're playing victim by bringing up our actions
<you're playing the victim by blaming the west for you actions
isn't

>>2911049
Fair to whom? Ukranian porky wouldn't be screwed over, just the working class

>>2911534
Yeah whatever Russian tv hosts are saying is an unrelated issue.
All you’re doing is switching the topic because the problem of the Eastern European victim complex and the fact that it is actively abused by the far right is a very inconvenient topic for you.




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>i love reshaping christianity to fit my ideology
<me too
i guess the horseshoe theory really does get confirmed in the end huh? i've honestly seen everything from far leftoids saying that christ was a materialist to chuds saying that the septuagiant is ACTUALLY AGAINST MISCEGENATIONG GUYS IGNORE MIRIAM OK JUST TRUST ME(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

Religion is retardes

>>2911589
It's almost like religion is simply just another ideological justification for the state and the class it serves.

>>2911596
childish take

>>2911590
I can respect this more



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Serbian Student Movement Launches Election Campaign with Rally in Novi Sad
During the rally, the students presented some of the candidates who will feature on their parliamentary candidate list. Those introduced included President of the Judicial Power Trade Union, Nemanja Duric, Novi Sad cardiologist and Medical Faculty lecturer Ilija Srdanovic, Sombor Faculty of Education lecturer Ljubica Oparnica, and Belgrade Faculty of Philosophy lecturer Jovo Bakic. Other candidates presented were Belgrade Faculty of Chemistry lecturer Radomir Saicic, Novi Pazar political scientist Adem Mavric, and actor Tihomir Stanic.
https://www.bta.bg/en/news/balkans/1201909-serbian-student-movement-launches-election-campaign-with-rally-in-novi-sad
https://archive.ph/psYbz

Anti-racists to march in Portsmouth on Saturday, six days after far-right intimidation of refugees
SUTR anti-fascist officer Lewis Nielsen called recent anti-migrant protests seen in Portsmouth and Dover a “watershed moment,” asking members of the public to join their counter demo at 12pm tomorrow in the coastal city at All Saints Car Park, Church Street.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/anti-racists-will-march-portsmouth-saturday-six-days-after-hundreds-far-right

Tommy Robinson’s Right-Hand Man Is Turning Online Hate Into an Anti-Migrant Militia
Live-streaming his adventure to an audience on YouTube, he jumped over fences, making up for a lack of athleticism with a wild-eyed sense of urgency and determination. “If we’re being sick by the time we get there, we’re being sick – let’s go,” he said, panting as he ran. He encouraged both those he encountered in the street and those watching – “every man and his dog” – to join him. By the end of the night, around 200 people had gathered around the harbour, some wearing masks, confronting riot police in order to stop the arrival of 120 people who had been travelling to the UK in a single dinghy.
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House tees up pre-election vote on curbing data center power bills
The bipartisan bill, which will be brought up under suspension, would require state utility regulators to consider rules making data centers cover some of the costs of new power generation.
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/house-republicans-data-center-power-bills-ai
https://archive.ph/wzGp3

U.S. officials declare an end to record-setting cyclospora outbreak, but its origin is still unknown
Even with the outbreak deemed over, several questions remain, including about its origin. The parasite is spread through human feces, and it still isn't clear how sewage could have contaminated enough food to sicken so many people.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/u-s-officials-declare-an-end-to-record-setting-cyclospora-outbreak-but-its-origin-is-still-unknown
https://archive.ph/VMqTv

New police arrests, firings for Flock misuse after our investigation
A USA TODAY analysis of publicly released Flock audit logs found that Crutchfield used the service to search a woman’s license plate at least 189 times over eight months in 2025. Days after a USA TODAY reporter called her, the woman filed a petition in St. Lucie County court for a protection order against Crutchfield for stalking.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2026/09/11/new-flock-misuse-cases-police-arrests-firings-investigation/91691881007/
https://archive.ph/O1I1a

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>>2911379
>The bipartisan bill, which will be brought up under suspension, would require state utility regulators to consider rules making data centers cover some of the costs of new power generation.

The power of bipartisanship. "Um, would you pwease consider doing something?"

Salvador Allende: Last Words to the Nation
My friends,
Surely this will be the last opportunity for me to address you. The Air Force has bombed the towers of Radio Portales and Radio Corporación. My words do not have bitterness but disappointment. May they be a moral punishment for those who have betrayed their oath: soldiers of Chile, titular commanders in chief, Admiral Merino, who has designated himself Commander of the Navy, and Mr. Mendoza, the despicable general who only yesterday pledged his fidelity and loyalty to the Government, and who also has appointed himself Chief of the Carabineros [national police]. Given these facts, the only thing left for me is to say to workers: I am not going to resign! Placed in a historic transition, I will pay for loyalty to the people with my life. And I say to them that I am certain that the seed which we have planted in the good conscience of thousands and thousands of Chileans will not be shriveled forever. They have strength and will be able to dominate us, but social processes can be arrested neither by crime nor force. History is ours, and people make history.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/allende/1973/september/11.htm

The other September 11: Chile, Allende and the myth of the “peaceful road” to Socialism By Nikos Mottas Editor-in-Chief of In Defense of Communism
More than half a century later, the Chilean coup remains one of the clearest historical examples of how far imperialism and the bourgeoisie are prepared to go when their class interests and political power are threatened. Its lessons acquire renewed significance today, at a time when the United States is once again openly reinforcing its political, military and economic presence throughout Latin America, seeking to secure markets, strategic resources, alliances and geopolitical influence across the continent. The experience of 1973 therefore cannot be treated merely as a dark chapter of the past. It belongs directly to the political struggles of the present. We will not dwell here on the criminal role of the United States and the CIA in the overthrow of Allende’s democratically elected government. This has been extensively documented. The more important issue is what Chile teaches us about the so-called “peaceful transition” to socialism or, in other wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

I'm unsure about which book to read next. I've been marxist theory for the better past of the last 2 years, alongside general philosophy which I'm interested in, but I don't know which authors I should pick up next from the marxist canon. I've read the important works by Marx and Engels, aswell as the classic : Lenin, Mao, Trotsky (finishing him today), Lukacs, Gramsci and Althusser.

I'm generally curious about marxists authors and which theories they've developed, and I like reading in general so it doesn't bother me to read stale theory books. Do you have any recommendations ? I'm not that interested in pure political tactics but I don't mind reading more "economical" books. More heterodox authors would be appreciated, albeit no frankfurt school BS. I've already had to read them for a class in college.
Any advice ?

>inb4 armchair and-what-not

I'm already active in an org, alongside multiple associations in which I volunteer.

>>2911105
>I've been marxist theory for the better past of the last 2 years […]
Sorry, I meant to say
<"I've been READING marxist theory for the better past of the last 2 years"

Read Paul Cockshott's Computation and its Limits, he has a new book out called Defending Materialism, see if you can find it. It's connected with cybercommunism.

I like to read right wing authors to since they have an interesting perspective on things. Like this is the original Mao's Combat Liberalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarcha

>>2911129
I'll look into it, but I've already read TANS and I'm already quite informed on his vision of communism. I was trying to find something more heterodox

>>2911131
Heterodox stuff is hard to come by because if it gets too heterodox, it is considered "anti-marxist" or whatever. There is a book by Chayanov from like 1928 or something about agrarian socialism, but it's only in Russian and the only PDF of it is a literal scan of the book from a government archiver. Maybe ask /edu/?
I combined Austrian and Marxian economics on my own but your best bet is to start there.



 

We haven't had this thread in a while so I'm bringing it back. >>>/leftypol/2851498 says mods will remove it so I am proving it wrong.

The Zionist Entity is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east. Even early zionists like Theodor Herzl understood Israel in these explicitly settler-colonial terms. Here is Herzl speaking in the 1800s, when Palestine was still Ottoman territory:

>If His Majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could offer to resolve Turkey’s finances. For Europe, we would form part of a bulwark against Asia there, we would serve as the advance post of civilisation against barbarism.


So Theodor Herzel felt not only that European people were entitled to Palestine over the people already living there (including Ottoman Jews), but that the presence of "civilized" Europeans in Israel would form a "bulwark" (forward operating base(offensive, not defensive)) against Asia, which entire continent Herzl racistly characterized as "barbaric."

Herzl was born on May 2nd , 1860 in Budapest, Hungary to a family of German speaking assimilated Jews. His father, Jakob, was a wealthy businessman and the young Theodor was expected to enter politics or engineering by his parents. In a sense, he did not disappoint, as Herzl was destined to become the father of political Zionism. While Herzl never saw his Jewish state during his lifetime, his ideology remains so influential that even today he is considered the father of Israel.

Herzl’s birthday is a holiday in Israel, his grave is a national monument, the organization he founded is still active today and the largest mountain in the country was re-named in his honor. It is not an exaggeration to say that Herzl and his ideology remain central to Zionism.

As a young man, Herzl was a fanatic Germanophile. He believed that if Jews simply tried hard enough, they could become “Germanized” and shake off what he called “shameful Jewish characteristics.” Herzl viewed German culture and language as inherently superior to that of the reviled working-class Yiddish speaking Jews. At first, he believed that Jews should be Germanized, arguing that Eastern European Jews were so "savage" and backwards that they must learn the very concepts of beauty and nobility by studying the works of authors like Goethe and Shakespeare. He initially envisionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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From Palestinian Youth Movement:
"📍United Nations Headquarters
📅 September 24, 2026
⏰ TO BE ANNOUNCED

GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINAL BENJAMIN NETANYAHU is coming to New York City to address the UN Headquarters for the General Assembly.

The primary architect behind the ongoing genocide on Gaza and the violent annexation of the West Bank, Benjamin Netanyahu will take the stage at the UN and attempt to legitimize his atrocities and his genocidal settler colonial state before the international community.

Netanyahu will be met with resistance and refusal! His presence demands mobilization. As he enters the UN to whitewash his crimes and manufacture consent for the ongoing genocide of our people, we will take to the streets to expose him and reject Zionism.

WE WILL NEVER ABANDON GAZA - Join us in the streets on SEPTEMBER 24 to stand with Palestine, reject these zionist war criminals, and demand that Israel be brought to justice. Time will be announced closer to the date. See you in the streets."

https://www.instagram.com/p/DdAPxMognbE/

I hate coming back to this thread. Only pain and despair are seen.

easier to fear monger about jihadism than to rehab israel

>>2888796
I hope one day there's a way to heal her skin with stem cells or something. ethically sourced from umbilical cords. idk. anything. shit is tragic

>>2851544
I have enough nuance to know that JUDAISM is an evil religion and all jews should convert to christianity, but I will never be racist against jews, they are not a race, they are a backwards ass religion.



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imperialism isn't about economics, it's about society.

treatlers of 1st world countries come to the global south to pillage. how hard is that to understand? they aren't your friends, they aren't your allies, they are your blood enemies. think of it like humans vs. orcs.

>>2910842
when i unzip it unrolls like a fruit rollup

>>2910839
it's about humanity itself, every exploited society wants to be the exploiter, there is no special race or geographical characteristic that removes the self interest every human has.

england was at one time invaded and colonized area, as far as romans saw it the people that lived in those islands were third worlders, then britain became the biggest mercantile exploiter empire and raped the entire world.

and guess what? if the global south revolts and flips the power dynamic we are going to see the same, stop believing in noble savage fairy tales, historical materialism doesn't lie.




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  1. Punching your monitor only hurts you, it does not hurt the person who made the post.
  2. People often don't think, they just feel. Asking them to define terms and defend positions forces them to think and causes them to realize things about themselves they did not previously realize.
  3. Practice without theory is flailing. Theory without debate is solipsism. Debate without reflection upon practice is masturbation. We should practice, then debate whether that practice was useful, then reflect upon that debate to establish a superior theory that will lead to better practice.
  4. Debate does not cause splits, it reveals splits that were previously hidden under the flowery language of a false unity, and allows something to be done about them.
  5. People who are unable to defend their ideas don't even know why they hold them in the first place.
  6. People who are unable to define the terms they use don't even know what they mean.
  7. If you shoot first and ask questions later you end up with a lot of unnecessary friendly fire.
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>>2910177
That's my jewish nigger
I know exactly how you feel

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>>2910132
I say this and look like this

>>2910132
the internet is already a waste of time, but debating enhances your logos and actually makes you closer to the truth, it's objectively the best use of wasted time

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>>2910371
with this I mean honest actual debate without emotions or shit flinging, imagine being a retarded chud that doesn't have a life and on top of that is not even good at pursuing truth and reason? couldn't be me

>>2910379
also violence



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I went to a Communist Festival organised by the Palestinian People's Party in the village of Farkha, Salfit Governate, West Bank this August. I can't really prove it in a way that wouldn't dox myself but picrel shouldn't be findable elsewhere on the internet so that should be proof enough.

AMA.
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>>2910205
>Going to be real its bleak.
Yeah I feel that too. It pains me to see all the violence on Gaza and nobody does anything to stop it. Nobody as the courage to punish the ziorats.

>>2910275
>How long did it last?
Festival itself was a week.
>You speak arabic right?
I only know my Inshallahs from my Alhamdulillahs. I learnt some very basic phrases ("No", "Thank you", "Thank you [for giving me this]", "Where?") while there. Most things were bilingual partially because it is meant to be an *international* festival after all.
>If you are able to/allowed to answer this: How did you get to know about this? And the trip planning?
I would reccomend you follow the work of the German journalist Kerem Schamberger.
>>2910279
Unlikely. Also you need to add Fatah/the PA to that list they really fucking hate those guys (and for good reason).
>>2910301
>Bruh i hope you're not a burger or in the usa for any reason or the feds are probably gonna be looking for you.
Only yanks there were Palestinian joint-citizens (surprising number of them honestly). One of them is 100p on a list. Also this >>2910362 besides most of the people there were krauts I think they are more at risk than burgers.
>>2910503
When we were in one of the major cities of the west bank there was a raid where Israeli Army trucks drove by and one of the guys said "they don't even throw stones at them anymore" the brutalisation of Gaza has demoralised Palestinians to a drastic extent.

>>2910125
How was it getting there? It's been really hard for internationals in the west bank recently since Oct 7.

Did any major Communist parties attend the festival?

>>2910774
I crossed from Jordan, was very easy but it was my first time in the country and my outfit was christianmaxing. Like 5 internationalists were stopped though. The secret is to have a good cover story that you look like (if you are flying through David Ben Gurion and say you are doing gay stuff, look gay) and lock down your public social media. Apparently someone got denied because the border guard put their name into chatgpt and found articles where they had endorsed Palestine. It is luck of the draw though: I am a white male the arabs in our number got hell. Also do not have telegram and if you have telegram clear it of political channels. It's apparently what Palestinians use so the israelis are paranoid about it.
>>2910815
The Communist Party of Israel
:^)
On a serious note the Internationalists were predominately German so represented a bunch of german organisations, especially from the Munich area. They were predominately antimiliartist organisations with some ecological, internationalist, and anti-racist ones mixed in. We actually had members from Die Linke and a guy from La France Insourmise (although he said he was only a member strategically and had no position in it). We had a Swiss and a Slovene delegation which were both part of respective localist Marxist organisations, and the two brits were unaffiliated. Worth saying that a few of the germans were previously in the DKP but the lack of party members from the IMCWP was noticeable. There is a obscure Italian communist party (Fronte Comunista) which apparently has sent people previously but they weren't there.
Slightly off topic but the village is known for its internationalism. There was graffiti/murals/photos supporting:
The PKK/YPG/Kurdish Struggle
The POLISARIO/SADR
Catalonia
Rosa Luxemburg, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Ghassan Kanafani, and İbrahim Kaypakkaya



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