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I'm bothered that people, especially in imageboards, can't get past the barrier of anti-capitalism and embrace misanthropy. Capitalism is just a consequence of anthropocentric thinking and there is no harm that capitalism causes to the world that can be separated from humanity. Human beings are shit and deserve to be extirpated from this world, even as a form of mercy. Embrace misanthropy: it is the end or barbarism, but it has always been barbarism. If life has radicalized you, understand that the root of all evil is man, allow him to die and leave this world.
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Fuck off with your Yahweh LARP
Kill yourself. Go seethe somewhere else. Punishing the working class for not being able to win is retarded, youre an anti communist, youre anti worker, youre a bitter 15 year old loser who needs to go outside, stop playing video games, touch grass, and start drinking with other lefties irl and do shit.


No, but i think the concept of eternal and everlasting torture for reactionaries is extremely based
The worst thing about Hitler’s death is that it was over in seconds
Westoid reactionaries absolutely deserve the Hell on Earth that is global warming and global thermonuclear war and a mass extinction
I’m a bitter 25 year old that’s very openly an omnicidal nutjob
>Le baby muh working class
Please slit your fucking throat and die you idiotic cunt
Are you not a worker yourself?
Why the fuck do you speak as if either of us are separated from muh proletariat you fucking fag?

Do you see proles as a nice big horsey to ride into power like 99% of this board and thus need them to be your super heckin wholesome adult children who need a gay fucking hugbox even from other anonymous proles online?

The Western working class didn’t “fail”, they just utterly lacked in solidarity with the international proletariat and their fellow workers in their own countries; they actively chose and continue to choose reaction and we live in the reality they chose, fuck em

I stand by communists and proles in the periphery and no one else


i remember when acting like this wasnt considered embarrassing and was actually the norm in the 2000s


The 2000s were better than the modern shittified hugbox internet for sure


not really, people were just as dumb back then

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>read a menshevik proleterianized petty-bourgeois future Trotskyite spooked intellectual whose entire raison d etre is making shit up about the proletarian republic which treated his cancer during his alleged torturous gulag stay
Its funny when reactoids talk about Solzhenitsyn as this self-taught historian and the вce и вcя when it comes to Jews or any other thing they could pin on the specter of communism. His magnum opus, the Gulag Archipelago, was a self-admitted "literary investigation." Day in a life Ivan Denisovich was published with Khrushchev's blessing and made mandatory reading to discredit his political opponents, the hard-line Stalinists. He's a regime intellectual but most are blinded by ideology to see this and are unable analyze him as a product of that time and that place.

His only good book is the Cancer Ward and that's he because he accidentally rediscovers Gorkiesque socialist realism. His antisemitism is just dressing for anti-communism. Actually, they're equivalent.


Wasn't he a hardline Tzarist and Orthodox fanatic? The idea that he thought that "Bolshevism" was a Jewish plot to kill ethnic Russians is just icing on the cake.


Functionally the Mensheviks supported the whites in the civil war.

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This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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Idk for my research it's good enough. If doing non local cosmology is your thing then go for it. We got people doing e.g. spacetime with torsion, wormholes and describing solid state systems as black hole geometries in one dimension higher - literally do what you want.


what if the universe is just like a collective high, man


Is this how y'all aspire to be?


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no, I aspire to become one with the Omnissiah


If so then communism must be about ending this bad trip


Thoughts on Turkmenistan? To me its system seems very similar to Belarus, blatantly socialist in all but name. Though they seem to favor a strictly neutral foreign policy rather than Belarus' strong anti imperialist stance.
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add it to the list of
actually existing socialisms in history
>Ottoman Empire
>Safavid Persia
>Mutawakillite Imamate of Yemen
>Qing Empire
>Tsardom of Muscovy
>Triple Aztec Alliance




You forgot the Mongol Empire.


You forgot the Klingon empire


>Their socialized economy is self evident and practically common knowledge.
The existence of Turkmenistan isn't common knowledge.

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I don't mean state actors and the bourgeoisie that are absurd for the purposes of propaganda, I mean the idiotic fuckers that feed into it, the people anticommunist propaganda is made for

Has anyone else noticed the arguments against communists tend to be bafflingly absurd and seemingly unserious? I don't even mean the six gorillion claims, I mean the way most anticommunists argue as if they're joking, as if they know truthfully that they don't believe in their claims and simply see their fellow proletarians as scum and are anticommunist solely out of a vicious refusal of solidarity
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10 years ago I was an ultra-curious liberal anti-communist and I absolutely bought the "Stalin killed 50 gajilion" myth, hook line and sinker back then.

> I mean the way most anticommunists argue as if they're joking

Sounds like selection bias to me.

> as if they know truthfully that they don't believe in their claims and simply see their fellow proletarians as scum

Most publicly involved anti-communists are part of the intelligentsia and certainly don't see the rest of the working class as fellow proletarians.

> solely out of a vicious refusal of solidarity

Nah. Most people see themselves as good people and rationalize away taking selfish decisions. Even the literal nazis didn't see themselves as bad people.


reactionaries have very low intelligence, so of course dumb shit works


No. Anticoms clearly have a mind and goal in their lives, and they're generally much more reasonable because they accept field facts and not disniformation from Moscow. Grow the fuck up tanks


Isn't that most "reactionaries" are just well-off or educated, even moreso than the workers?


you don't have to be smart to make money

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Epic Rap Battles of History has done a portrayal of Marx. Apparenly, he's batting Henry Ford. Who won?

>inb4 soy

>inb4 go back to reddit

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Way to dox yourself, anon. Now we all know you're Elmer Fudd.


literallly everyone knows ford was a nazi


worker co-ops is the way


>his invention of the assembly line
American education lmao


>Who is smart to you, anon?

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oopsies u said bad wurd


its ok im aaron mcgruder .


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the aussie accent makes it ok. it doesnt have hard 'r' sounds at the end of words.


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The Shovel does it again.


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Greenpeace bros, it's over. He won.


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whats the most autistic thing you've ever seen at an org meeting or rally? for me it was when i was showing my IRL friends this one political rally and the trots i kinda vaguely knew from one meeting were trying to unload their stupid fucking newspaper subscriptions onto my friends.
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>this one guy decided to bring his lab kit to make BDO


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>The above criticism was mostly directed toward anarchists, but Marxists can be off-putting too: the first activist group I've joined a bit were students debating the legacy of the USSR like it was the 1960s before watching Michael Moore movies, and after that they would get all self-important and say "i know you are a social-democrat [member #?] but yaddi yadda you know we need a revolution" and I got kinda lost and bored. Again nothing truly cringe, and they had cheap beers and could party well, they were fine, but they felt a bit out of touch to me.
Socialist Alternative.


He was my ride to the party.



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Not me, but I'm reminded of something I read on an old Web 1.0 personal site / blog about the guy's experience in the Militant Tendency (biggest Trot group of the 80s). From what I remember, the party rented out a movie theater to show the four-and-a-half-hour-long epic movie 1900, probably the most expensive non-Soviet Communist movie ever made. After the showing, there was a nearly-as-long party meeting discussing the political meaning of the film, and everyone there was lining up to shower the movie with praise and make big donations to celebrate. Weeks afterward, however, he started talking with fellow movie goers in private and eventually got most of them to admit the movie was irredeemable garbage.

If you've seen the movie yourself, you'd agree: boring as all hell yet the plot is incoherent, comically evil villains, and worst of all, half the acting is performed in Italian and half is performed in English, so no matter what language you choose you'll have to deal with awful dubbing. The best part of the movie is its premise: Bernardo Bertolucci convinced Hollywood studio bosses to give him sixty million inflation adjusted dollars to make "a personal film about resistance to fascism in the Italian countryside" with the condition of complete creative control and no questions asked, and came back with a nearly five hour movie that literally begins with Robert De Niro looking straight at the camera and saying "Long Live Stalin." With a premise like that it's a shame the film is such shit.


beyond based and cringe

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ITT: We discuss the Fourth Industrial Revolution the coalescence of multiple emergent technologies, such as: mixed reality headsets, hologram technology/volumetric displays, emergent AI, emergent robotics both soft and hard robotics, quantum computing, drones, nanotech, genetic and bioengineering, etc

The Fourth Industrial Revolution:

Karl Marx
Nick Land
Mark Fisher
Sam Altman
Old Man Liberalism
World War Three
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You think we're getting UBI lol no we're going to become professional debt slave clowns for the rich if it comes to that


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TLDR: AI gives surveillance capitalism a brain to meet the data it has. Every object and concept becomes stateful.

Image 1
Source: https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/discussions/8675
Describe: Convert CCTV into Text Logs
1. Hunt demonstrators quickly. Enable machines to respond to demonstrators.
2. Make obscene amounts off CCTV dirt cheap to store for a court. Just store the face and the associated text.

Image 2
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt0qFtjwTMA&t=146s
Describe: Convert users documents into categories of sensitivity.
1. Hunt the leakers.
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The state and all its might excels at creating a greater quantality of objects intended for war than its rival. Otherwise it dies.

Drones will change warfare.

Drones will also tilt the power balance in favor of the state even more.

This means every police station, grocery store, and metal container, and streetlight becomes a launch platform for remote controlled loitering munitions.


The state's power is always greater than it has ever been before in terms of weapons and technology
That shit is meaningless


Jesus Christ

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Yemen’s Houthis say they targeted two Israeli ships in Red Sea: Report
Yemen’s Houthi movement says it has targeted two Israeli ships with an armed drone and a naval missile, reports a spokesperson for the group’s military. The spokesperson said the two ships, Unity Explorer and Number Nine, were targeted after they rejected warnings from the group’s navy, the Reuters news agency reported on Sunday.

US 'self-defence' airstrike kills five pro-Iran militants in northern Iraq
An air strike in northern Iraq killed at least five pro-Iranian militants on Sunday, Iraqi security sources said, a day after Baghdad warned Washington against "attacks" on its territory. The raid targeted a site used by an armed group affiliated with Popular Mobilization Forces (Hashed al-Shaabi), a coalition of former paramilitary forces integrated into Iraq's regular military, a senior security official in Kirkuk province said, without saying who launched it.

UN secretary-general lambasts COP28 presidency’s net zero charter
“Science is clear: we need to phase out fossil fuels within a timeframe compatible with limiting global warming to 1.5 Celsius,” the UN chief said on Sunday. “In addition, [the] announcement provided no clarity on the pathway to reaching net zero by 2050, which is absolutely essential to ensure integrity. There must be no room for greenwashing.”

Israel-Palestine war: Dutch rights groups take government to court over arms to Israel
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DHL Teamsters vote to authorize strike due to employee treatment concerns ahead of holidays
“DHL Teamsters deserve a strong contract now. Our hardworking members know the value of their labor and they are ready to withhold it if DHL doesn’t get serious about remedying its bad behavior and bargaining a fair contract,” said Bill Hamilton, the director of the Teamsters Express Division. “This company needs to stop wasting time and come to an agreement that respects these skilled and dedicated Teamsters. If not, DHL will be leaving workers with no choice but to strike.”

California faculty at largest US university system launch strike for better pay
Faculty at California State University, the largest public university system in the U.S., kicked off a series of one-day strikes starting Monday across four campuses to demand higher pay and more parental leave for thousands of professors, librarians, coaches and other workers. Hundreds of faculty members picketed at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, also known as Cal Poly Pomona, to launch the latest push by the California Faculty Association to fight for better pay and benefits for the roughly 29,000 workers the union represents across the university system’s 23 campuses.

Texas chemical company issues shelter-in-place order after toxic gas leak
A major chemical company in the Texas city of La Porte issued a shelter-in-place order for nearby residents and workers after a toxic gas leak saw eight people taken to the hospital. Altivia Chemical said it was working to contain a leak of a gas called phosgene from its plant, as the city’s emergency management agency ordered residents and five neighboring chemical facilities to shelter in place out of caution.
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CP of Venezuela, TP Editorial: The ultra-patriotic dance of the government, the right and the business community
A spectacular and millionaire advertising campaign has been launched to raise the tarnished image of Nicolás Maduro, who so far -with or without his [self-marketed Capitan America-style] superhero costume- has failed miserably in the mission to guarantee decent living conditions to Venezuelans. In this latest episode, "Superbigote" [Super-Moustache] tries to recover the Essequibo territory from the clutches of transnational companies that have discovered rich oil and gas deposits. The curious thing about this clash is that, on this side of the river, there are also companies such as Chevron operating with guarantees similar to those offered in the times of the dictatorship of Juan Vicente Gómez. All eyes are on the consultative referendum of December 3. Chauvinism is the order of the day. Most of the factions of the right wing and the reactionary forces that dispute the control of the State with the government-PSUV have joined the call for the "defense" of the territory. There has been no lack of threats of "betrayal of the homeland" against those who do not jump on the bandwagon. But, what is the supposed patriotism of the bourgeoisie all about? Why are apparent enemies shaking hands and shouting "the Essequibo is ours" in chorus? To answer these questions, it is necessary to make our way through the noise of the ultra-patriotic festivities and pay attention to the steps of the dance between the government and the forces of the opposition right wing. Then, we will see the seams of the so often touted "national unity".

Robert Habeck Wrote a Play Praising a Right-Wing Mass Murderer
Robert Habeck cuts a noble and tragic figure. The Green vice chancellor, with his three-day beard, open collar, and permanently disheveled look, strikes many as a former idealist who has been forced to abandon his principles. Deborah Feldman, an American Jewish immigrant, recently wrote that Habeck once seemed like »the little guy, one of us, a dreamer and a storyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Thanks News Anon

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