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>Kemalism and revolutionalism can not go together, Kemalism is fascism
  • Ibrahım Kaypakkaya
I dont want to seem as a terrorist but I partly agree with him, kemalism before social democracy was something like that. But we still cant call Atatürk anti-communist bc he were playing in both sides
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>>2832193
>>I dont want to seem as a terrorist but I partly agree with him
Terrorism. 30 years in prison for you, sorry.

>>2832289
Are there still places in Turkey which look like this?

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>>2832306
Yes, that's Küçük Armutlu. Although it is still under siege from the Turkish state and all the special war tricks that entails.
https://yeniyasamgazetesi9.com/ceteler-devrimcilerin-kurdugu-kucuk-armutluyu-kusatmis-durumda/

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>>2832318
I mean, political siege, iykwim, you can still go to these places.

Kemalism was a clone of the ideology of the CUP and the Three Pashas who were larping after Napoleon. Ocelanism is a clone of Kemalism, so is Bourguibaism, Assadic Ba'athism. And Hitler's Nazism was a clone of Kemalism and ᴉuᴉlossnW's Fascism mixed with huuur die juden schizophrenia which comes from Eric Ludendorff. Ustashe were a clone of Nazism but Slavic and Catholic. The Shah's Rastakhiz ideology was basically National Socialism with the same Aryan racial theory. SSNP are natsocs with Syriac characteristics.

So the CUP and Kemal comes along and oppresses the Kurds and Armenians with their racist ideology, then the Kurds clone that ideology and oppress Arabs in Northern Syria. The great cycle of life rolls on. Kemalism was one of the worst things to happen to the Middle East.


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Okay, but why did the French hate the Cagots? Where the French just evil or something? It seems pretty arbitrary and pointless. I don't see how these kinds of caste systems support the ruling class.

Cagots don’t exist anymore and we’re fully assimilated to Pyrenean populations about 200 years ago. They were most likely left over from the Gothic invasions.

>>2832441
>we’re fully assimilated
👀

Mass hysteria around lepers back in the 1300's


 

>it works in practice but it doesn't work in theory edition

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>>2832333
>human sacrifices must be made constantly so you can feel mad at the government
meds

>>2832353
>Too acoustic to detect facetiousness

>>2832365
>>2832353
Yes.

Besides, socialists in the West need American military operational and ready to strike at anybody anywhere - especially children - so that democratic mode of governance could be preserved and defended. It's a lesser evil! I swear, pinky promise it's not just to destroy countries for profit

>>2832365
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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

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>>2829889
>, currently, the US is deporting with one hand and reinventing bracero with the other
i've been saying this for years but retards don't even know what the bracero system was and they bought into the build the wall meme and have been coping ever since

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>>2828335
I do think that this is yet another example of old liberal talking points being disproven in real time, along with shit like AI. You "vote with your dollars" huh? Or maybe you get garbage you get crap no one asked for forced on you for a decade.

That said, the old standard wasn't big titty ladies, it was some cool guy action man. It is common sense for your main character to be of the same general demographic as the audience you are targeting, and generally "action man kills the bad guys" is a tried and true formula.

Maybe the biggest tell that something weird was going on was the way these female characters tend to look. Unlike the meme you keep seeing, they're not actually ugly, they're all just weirdly plain-faced. Keep in mind, they're pretty much never actually grounded characters meant to be a some kind of everywoman. They're still impossible, larger-than-life characters, but they look like some chick you'd see at the grocery store. At least if they were truly ugly, they might have a striking appearance. Here, they just look like some lady. Which is the last thing you want out of your player character. I wouldn't even pretend to know what the goal of this is, but it feels like its being done on purpose.

In fact, there's a beautiful lady😍🥰 of weird shit that media has been doing lately that no one asked for and doesn't seem to appeal to anyone, and no one even tries to defend beyond an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation, saying that it isn't really there or that you're a bad person for noticing. Which is a weird situation to have had going on for an extended period of time under a capitalist system where you would think that the name of the game would be shameless pandering.

>>2833031
beautiful lady😍🥰
lot

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>>2833034
Why is "beautiful lady😍🥰" being wordfiltered to "beautiful lady😍🥰"?

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>>2833035
tun, but with an o instead of a u


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As a thirdworld leftcom let me tell what the first world communist/leftist needs to do.

Just focus on wage increases via unions and strikes. And oppose immigration. That's all you need to do.

The rate of profit is getting raped in the first world. Organized labor can rape it further and seriously hurt capitalism.

Stop all the LARPing and electorialism and adventurism and billions of hours spent online arguing.

Propagandize. Join unions or create ones. Make it militant. Do strikes. Demand higher wages and better working conditions. Oppose immigration (foreign scabs).

Do this and you will help the third world more than anything else. Your efforts will seriously disrupt your economies and weaken your national capabilities. You will achieve improvement in standard of living. You will give your working class experience and knowledge in how to oppose the capitalist class.

A single successfull nation-wide general strike for even a week in the first world will do more damage than a dozen nuclear bomb on capitalism.
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>The rate of profit is getting raped in the first world. Organized labor can rape it further and seriously hurt capitalism.
Not necessarily a "revolutionary" by itself. It's just what moves keeps capital moving. An increase in the rate of exploitation would encourage more activity.

>Stop all the LARPing and electorialism and adventurism and billions of hours spent online arguing.
I agree

>Propagandize. Join unions or create ones. Make it militant. Do strikes. Demand higher wages and better working conditions.
You just contradicted yourself. You oppose electoralism because it's this stupid fucking dumb-dumb idea that you can enter the bourgeois house and tell them to do communism. Well, trade unions are a fully absorbed and expected part of capitalism as a form of wage negotiation performed by the labor aristocrat leadership. In WWII, the trade unions actively made sure their members didn't go on strike. They are controlled opposition which leaves the (failed, objectively) idea of Leninists that you can transform them from within, even though the Bolsheviks NEVER relied on trade unions to take power (instead opting for a political coup, promise of land reform to peasants, sailor mutinies and armed suppression of opposition) and the attempted application of that theory in the developed world at the time (Germany) failed SPECTACULARLY. It's HOI4 larping.

I know you said labor unions but the only one is the IWW and it's dead with its only activity being pointless activism sign waving

>Oppose immigration (foreign scabs)
You can't "oppose immigration" because it's a fact of life. There might be some electoral (once again a contradiction) activity to prevent the H1B scabs but it's unlikely because once again you're entering the doghouse that will make you play by their rules. Marx actually wrote about the topic regarding Irish immigrants and he gave a really simplistic answer of "they should organize with the native working class" but this hasn't ever actually worked out that way. I think the early CPUSA was heavily immigrant (iirc from what I read) but it eventually withered away.

Regardless, why is the "goal" for you to make sure everyone in the surplus population has a job? What type of Fordist bullshit is this? The only people in America thinking about socialism are people in precPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

wondering on how we fight against some of the technological developments that lower the barrier to trans-national labor pools though? Digitized outsourcing is a bigger problem than ever

>>2831983
>do something
You arent a leftcom

>>2831983
>>2832155
Offshoring to the undeveloped parts of the world is historically progressive, just shitty to live through.

>>2832368
Agreed, but it's an issue of two steps forward, one back


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Why are Eastern Bloc countries so inundated with retarded faggot gaylord parties that go around saying they're "Economically Left-Wing but Socially Right-Wing" or whatever? Western Europe doesn't do this, they have normal bourgeoisie political parties that reject syncretist nonsense. What the fuck are they doing over there? Can they just be normal and stop trying to be le unique and different? Why don't they just kill themselves?
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>>2830876
>O9A glowie Shandon Simpson
lol fuck off

>>2821225
Yea let's align with liberal technocrats take a bunch of loans bankrupt the country. And the second time we attain power capitulate to the counterrevolution and dissolve the party within one year.

>>2828001
>Actual Communism when practised always turns into Third Positonism/National Socialism
Not really though. Even the actually conservative nationalistic communist regimes that exist(ed) were pretty far from whatever the nazis were doing.

>>2831134
its written by ai too kek

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>>2821431
>jannies ban someone for saying f*ggot but don't ban the self-admitted nazi
???


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<ITT: discuss various forms of localist politics, e.g. communalism, municipalism, other forms of localist socialist governance, distributism, etc

there are some who still complain that russia was "socialism in one country". i contend that they are right, not because the concept is absurd, but because they do not go far enough. we have not yet taken stalin's gnosis to its logical conclusion and brought it to the hyper-financialized modern era

the current dichotomy in modern discourse has largely been between reformism and revolutionism. ultimately both forms make the mistake of operating as though contradictions are uniformly distributed. it is either you immediately go against the whole system in order to take it down, or you work with the whole system in order gradually reform it into socialism. why are these ultimately the only two notions entertained? the first approach underestimates the adaptability of monopoly capital or they fail to see the difficulty in coordinating an immediate revolution across large spans of the country. i think we all can see the failure of the second approach with its disregard for the blatant capture of bourgeois institutions by capital. maybe instead of still operating at such a high level of social change, we should focus more on what we can achieve on lower levels

this was part of the wisdom in "socialism in one country", it was the recognition that the contradictions were ripe in certain regions over others thanks to imperialism, and the specificity of these contradictions to particular regions only supports rather than detracts from the cultivation of determinate national character (contrary to industrial capital, which constantly strives towards maximal hyperconnectivity and the erosion of all national determinateness). ultimately, if you can not even achieve socialism in one country, there is much less hope in achieving socialism globally. now, we must of course acknowledge that "socialism in one country" was a logical response to imperialism, with the latter's tendency to unite the various classes within a society against a common imperialist bourgeois enemy. it is easy to see this and conclude that various forms of third-worldism are the answer. my issue with such a position is that it simply gives us an excuse to sit on our asses all day. if we actually carefully analyze things, we would notice that developed western nations have a tendency to, after thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2811834
Critical support to the cartels fighting against the Zapatista National Liberation libtards

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<I think in this discussion, we begin to see a strange resonance between nationalism on one end and idealism on the other. As mentioned before, there is a natural movement from nationalism to anarchism. Capitalism liquefies culture and erodes sovereignty. Quoting Greenspan, "From Mumford to Marx, the story of the emergence of a modern industrial time is implicitly structured through the dynamics of dialectical struggle. In a tale riddled with nostalgia and warnings, these thinkers lament the fact that in the modern period, the concrete, organic, and natural time of the calendar has been overwhelmed and dominated by the artificial time of the clock". Moreover, we see that alienation (on an individual level) is more completely eliminated when the individual's will is actualized in his localized surroundings wherein his will is most realized. There is a natural antagonism here with the State engendered here as well, insofar as there is often a gap between the manifest State and the actual will of the nation's people. On the other hand, in the fulfilment of anarchism, the local community is finally capable of determining itself, and a true ethnos is thereby constituted and permitted to develop. With the elimination of alienation, the social character of the individual is finally revealed and individualistic excess abolishes itself. We should moreover note that dialectical materialism, being in many ways a radically localist ontology bound to the specifics of a situated material organization. As such the gravitation to national forms of socialism as we have seen with the soviets and the chinese should hardly be surprising.
<Contrary to latent liberal universalisms, the Aeon of the Commune shall be the rebirth of substantive particularity. This is why leftists have struggled to actually articulate a coherent vision of the future and a way forward. In appealing to an abstract universalism, there is no life, and no pointer towards what sources of power to draw from and ways of maintaining the cohesion of a group looking towards societal progress.

>>2811736
I've had similar thoughts lately. in a place like the US empire it seems the power is very concentrated at the top, but it could be very easy for organized workers to topple a city or town government. People mock this but the more a federal government has to intervene at a local level to squash revolutionaries, the more intensified is the class struggle at a national scale. The real obstacle seems to be so many people sit in their homes expecting revolution to spontaneously break out on a national scale, instead of doing the hard work of establishing a strong local presence and then hooking that up with regional and eventually national allies.

>>2811736
>my idea would be to create an alternate structure of power which is stratified on top of worker cooperatives.
it's called the CUM strategy: Cooperatives, Unions, Mutual Aid


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>>2831792
we have a music board

If you like mena music with detuned synths and chanting I suggest Omar Souleyman

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The blue graph above shows that machine translation involvement rose from under 5% in 2000 to roughly 80% by the end of 2025 within professional language workflows. This visual timeline reflects the industry's shift from manual translation to AI-driven automation.

The evolution of machine translation (MT) fundamentally dismantled the traditional career pipeline for linguists. Becoming a professional translator in 2025 was vastly more difficult than in 2000 due to a structural economic shift: AI did not eliminate the need for premium human translation, but it largely destroyed the entry-level market where beginners traditionally learned the trade.

Key Phases of the Adoption Curve:
2000–2006 (The Early Era): Usage remained below 6% globally. Tools primarily served as minor internet gisting aids.
2006–2016 (The Statistical Era): Growth crept up toward 25%. Early enterprise adoption expanded via Statistical Machine Translation (SMT).
2016–2022 (The Neural Revolution): Growth accelerated past 50%. The rollout of Neural Machine Translation (NMT) drastically improved fluency.
2022–2025 (The Generative AI Boom): Adoption skyrocketed toward 80%. Large Language Models became standard workplace fixtures.

The red graph above charts the structural availability of entry-level professional translator job openings in the United States from 2000 to 2025, using the year 2000 as a baseline index of 100.

While total macro-employment for veteran language professionals and interpreters actually grew or tripled over this 20-year window according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data, the specific market share of entry-level roles available to beginners collapsed down to near single digits.

Timeline Analysis of the Collapse:
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I can finally stay an English Only Peasant, while watching anime and jerking it to those shitty DLsite porn games.

As a part-time freelance translator both in Human translation and Machine translation post-editing that helped to train AI-localization and LLM translations, I'm doing my part as a lumpen to destroy the craftsmen class of translators, who are the most annoying people on Earth. As those graphs show, translators were and still are a necessity for globalization, but AI and more specifically LLMs are transforming them into machine (machine = LLM) translation post-editors, and most translators, exactly like craftsmen a century ago, have a enormous commodity fetishism that makes them very hostile towards automation and mechanization because translators were big winners of globalism: before AI, people doing translation of basic content from English to French or English to Spanish could get rates like 0.07-0.10$ per word, which made translation a very comfy work.

Today, with LLMs, big, medium and small companies just send to translate on DeepL, and send more complex content to Chinese or Indian translation agencies that have massive LLM and machine translation post-editing experience: no need to pay for unexperienced translators as LLMs are better than them, and there is so much translators all around the world that those agencies pay 0.02-0.03$ per word for machine translation post-editing. Human translation is reserved for law stuff, more complex language translation content (English/French/Spanish to Mandarin is a real gold mine) or any "sensitive" (manuals, marketing, NDA…) content.

The only bad thing in this situation is the suffering of the "small hands" that are helping to tweak AI and LLMs with "annotations tasks": proles in Africa and India that are training AI all day with very repetitive work.

My dream was to become a translator but I was afraid of not being able to get a job after graduation so I went to compsci instead. Guess how I'm doing.

>>2831647
That sounds incredibly frustrating, and it is completely understandable if you are feeling stuck or demoralized right now. You made what seemed like the safe, logical choice at the time to secure your future, but the tech job market has been brutally unpredictable lately, while rapid advancements in AI have simultaneously upended the translation landscape. It probably feels like the goalposts were moved on you no matter which path you chose.
If you are facing layoffs, a tough job hunt, or burnt out on coding, you are definitely not alone.
The silver lining is that your unique combination of skills is actually highly valuable right now. Here is how you can merge your original passion with your degree to build a resilient career:
## How to Pivot and Combine Both Fields

* Localization Engineering: This role bridges the gap between software development and translation. You build the systems that allow apps, games, and websites to launch seamlessly in multiple languages.
* AI Translation Tools: Companies need developers who understand linguistics to train, fine-tune, and build Large Language Models (LLMs) and machine translation systems.
* Computational Linguistics: This field focuses on how computers understand human language. It is a massive growth area for voice assistants, search engines, and natural language processing (NLP).
* Freelance Tech Translation: You can translate technical documentation, API guides, and software manuals. Your computer science background gives you a rare subject-matter expertise that standard translators lack.

If you want to talk about how your job hunt or classes are going, I am here to listen.
To help map out a plan, tell me:

* Are you currently studying or already looking for a job?
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>>2831650
>GPT free
I forgot how shitty that trash is lol


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Israel must allow ICRC to visit Palestinians in prison, Supreme Court rules
Israel’s Supreme Court has unanimously rejected a government policy banning representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) from visiting Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons. The court ruled on Wednesday that by preventing the Red Cross from visiting prisoners, the government had contravened Israeli and international law, and therefore the policy must be repealed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/4/israel-must-allow-icrc-to-visit-palestinians-in-prison-supreme-court-rules
https://archive.ph/JbG99

Lebanon-Israel ceasefire plans in doubt following Hezbollah's rejection
According to the official, neither Hezbollah nor Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, a key Hezbollah ally and long-time intermediary between the group and Washington, had been aware of the full content of the deliberations as they unfolded. Once the text was ready, the Lebanese president sent it to both Hezbollah and Berri for feedback before Lebanon’s final position was conveyed to the United States, the official told MEE. The official described the negotiations as “tough and hard”, saying the Lebanese delegation threatened to suspend the session after Israeli pushback against a full ceasefire.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/lebanon-israel-ceasefire-plan-doubt-hezbollah-rejection

Armed clashes erupt in Somalia's capital
SUPPORTERS of opposition political figures and state security forces fought in armed clashes today that erupted in Somalia’s capital Mogadishu on Wednesday evening ahead of a planned anti-government demonstration. No official casualty figures were immediately available from the violence that prompted calls for restraint from the United Nations as the government and opposition traded blame for the violence.
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House Dems Join GOP to Help Advance Deeper US-Israeli Military Integration
Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) introduced an amendment to strike Section 224—which would establish a formal “United States–Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative”—from the 2027 National Defense Authorization Act. The proposed NDAA authorizes $1.15 trillion in baseline military spending, while the Trump administration’s full defense request seeks an unprecedented, debt-exploding $1.5 trillion in armed forces and related funding for the coming fiscal year.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ndaa-section-224

Consumer protection agency deletes thousands of pages as Trump administration seeks to dismantle it
The deletion of the bureau’s website content, which was first reported by Bloomberg, is just the most recent part of a larger plan to “undermine an agency that’s helped people”, said Adam Rust, director of financial services at the Consumer Federation of America, a non-profit consortium of consumer rights organizations.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jun/04/trump-administration-consumer-financial-protection-bureau

New Jersey police sergeant charged with stealing journalist’s camera bag at immigration protest
Darryl Brown, a sergeant in the Essex County Prosecutor’s Office, was caught with the missing items after the photojournalist used a geo-tracking device to trace her missing gear to his home, the state’s attorney general said Thursday.
https://apnews.com/article/delaney-hall-new-jersey-immigration-fd0ff7bfbae8585bba35c7b88bfe9eb0

California and New York weaken climate rules as red states ramp up green energy
California on Friday scaled back its cap-and-invest program, offering more than $3bn in free pollution allowances to polluting companies. Earlier the same week, New York weakened its groundbreaking climate law, delaying a plan to regulate carbon from 2024 until 2028 and reducing emPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Unions must act politically to defeat Reform
OPINION polling showing that trade union members increasingly support Reform over the Labour Party is alarming — but not surprising. A survey reported in The Times found that the two parties each had the support of around 28 per cent of trade unionists. And in the two major unions organising blue-collar industrial workers, Nigel Farage’s far-right outfit has a clear lead. Reform was preferred by 36 per cent of Unite members, as against 30 per cent for Labour, while among GMB members the corresponding figures were 31 per cent to 22 per cent. Unison members narrowly preferred Labour, but the dimensions of the problem are clear, even if the figures hardly justify Farage’s bombastic claim that “Labour is no longer the party of the patriotic working class. That mantle now belongs to Reform.” The party founded to advance trade union interests is now increasingly spurned by trade unionists themselves.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/unions-must-act-politically-defeat-reform

Interview with Pakistani communist Adam Pal: “We are ready to fight this to the end”
Ehsan Ali, a leading member of the Inqalabi Communist Party (RCP) and Chairman of the Awami Action Committee (AAC) in Gilgit-Baltistan, was arrested on 10 March alongside other AAC leaders after discussing peaceful protests in the region. Lotta Angantyr, the British RCP’s national organiser, spoke with Adam Pal, leader of the Pakistani section of the Revolutionary Communist International (RCI), to find out more about the political situation in the country and the conditions that our comrades are facing in the struggle for socialism (see below). Since Ehsan Ali’s arrest, an international solidarity campaign to demand their release has been launched by the RCI, and is now supported by Genocide Watch and Amnesty International, as well as public figures like Jeremy Corbyn.
https://communist.red/interview-with-pakistani-communist-adam-pal-we-are-ready-to-fight-this-to-the-end/

The Hand-Me-Down Alliance: Australia, AUKUS and Op-Shop Submarines
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