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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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>>2924447
That made for quite an interesting read but it is one man's anecdote from 1905.

>>2924465
>the same arguments Zionists use
<the same arguments every Communist country used
Sorry I take the practice of actual Communists more seriously than idealist drivel.
>>2924466
Yes, during the war they were. Then they switched after the war to facilitate post-war reconstruction.

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>>2924218

it's human psychology. when you have been marginalized and dominated and abused for as long as you can remember, you're basically like a confused angry child with no real sense of self, you've spend your whole life in a prison where everything you do and think and believe was dictated by your masters, so you are still institutionalized and you don't really have any outside knowledge or an ability to form your own ideas about anything. so you have to look outside for inspiration and validation, you look at the world and study the people in it who seem to really have their shit together and know what they are doing and you try to do what they do because that is all you can do at this point. but as you continue studying the world and learning more information, you eventually begin to accumulate enough raw material for critical thought and introspection to be possible, you can now stop relying so much on outside influence and can look inward and start taking an inventory and thinking about all the things you have learned and experienced and questioning everything and deciding what is right and what makes sense and what is really for you and what you are really about, and in this way you build and refine yourself and become a truly independent and autonomous individual. but if you don't do that and you just keep being the confused angry child doing the "fake it til you make it" thing and believing that if you blindly follow and emulate other people you will somehow become empowered in this way, then you still have no real agency and you're living in denial and being another kind of slave whose sense of self is being completely dictated by other people, who most likely don't really give a shit about you or your wellbeing at all. this is why some black activists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the religious beliefs of the arabs who conquered and enslaved africa before whitey did and why some feminists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the fashion and careerism and elitism of the male authority figures who demeaned them and harassed them at work every day, this is why kids who get picked on in school start glomming onto the bullies and emulating their behaviors and become toadies.



 

the future is a neo feudal tech dystopia where the new lords are the tech oligarchs who own the AI, the second tier will be the ai safety regulators, the new bourgeoise. and the third tier will be 98 percent of humanity who have lost their worth and purpose having been replaced by AI, at best becoming useless consumers who live off a stipend of UBI

there will be no revolution or even any use for an army, since the tech lords will have autonomous drones and AI surveillance monitoring dissidents

Only one central problem will remain for humanity (that which remains alive), and it will be the theological one. The transition to the new world, triggered by technology, does not seem likely to affect in any way that hidden, inner space where, as if we were sitting before the universe, we ask ourselves to know the One who gives us the desire to know Him and to know everything within ourselves and beyond ourselves.

Christianity, the religion of slaves and the illiterate, will once again begin its journey. For it is not data that saves us, but crossing the bridge over the abyss of life.
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>>2924186 You're either illiterate or schizing out; where did I say that they will be equally harmed? They will all be affected in SOME way, and in different places it will vary. Some places will see revolution and some will see what you're describing. The whole point of what I'm saying is that it's variable between different circumstances with different material conditions. Saying that different material conditions across worlds' societies will result in the exact same uncomplicated black-and-white outcome displays a crippling inability to understand how politics and history works on even a basic level.

>>2924231 That's what I'm saying. I hate this idea that the future will be a neo-fuedal global tech hellscape which multiple people in this thread are promoting. Shit's gonna be an unpredictable mess.

>>2924328
well feudalism died because of enclsoure and industrialization. but now profit is dying because SNLT is too low. so you go back to rent, but the rent is of a new form. it is not feudal rent.

>>2924158
The Emerging Tiers
Based on current trajectories of wealth concentration, AI capability development, and labor
market disruption, the model proposed here anticipates the following class structure by the mid-2030s,
absent significant intervention:

Tier 1: Infrastructure Owners (approximately 1 percent). The individuals and entities who own
compute infrastructure, energy supply, foundational AI models, and critical data assets. Amodei notes
that Elon Musk’s current fortune (approximately $700 billion) already exceeds John D. Rockefeller’s
peak wealth as a share of GDP, and this is before the primary economic impact of AI Amodei (2026a).
He projects that AI companies could generate approximately $3 trillion in revenue per year, leading to
personal fortunes “well into the trillions” Amodei (2026a). Research confirms that AI adoption has
already contributed to increasing concentration of wealth among top income earners, while the bottom
50 percent has seen only marginal gains Aluko et al. (2026).

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>>2924377
Feudalism died because of class tensions between the merchants and the aristocrats, with the merchants winning and looting the social surplus and accelerating entropy. Everything else is correct tho.



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>The people try to rise up to heaven
>The ruler of the universe divides the people by confusing their language to keep them out of heaven
is it a proto-class-conscious story? or just a story to explain the origin of language before people understood linguistics? on the one hand one can see the rudiments of class consciousness at play in the story, on the other hand there is no divide shown between the people doing the building and the people commissioning the building, it is just "the people" versus "heaven". But what is "heaven" if not the ruling class of the ancient world? It can also be the personification of all forces beyond our control, including forces like the weather. Somewhere along the way we conflated our ancestor worship and filial piety with nature personfication and got nature deities. this led to yahweh, to judaism, and eventually to the tower of babel story.

My ancestors

I have discussed the topic of the Tower of Babel before.
Read: >>2911022
Also, can mods move this thread into /QTDDTOT/, please?

Jesus and his followers were quite radical for their time when you really think about it.




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Flying and Nazi Malays Edition.

A general thread for the discussion for all things happening in Southeast Asia. What a year it has been. Forest fires in Borneo now. Border skirmishes with Thailand and Cambodia. Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols. Singapore begging its citizens to have kids. Malaysia sending Rohingya refugees back to Myanmar while it is still in a civil war.

All the while the heat is cooking us now.
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>>2919314
But why? God SEA politics is such a clown show.

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Everyone is talking about the sg gov dating event for their civil servant but from what i heard so far it just sounds like a nothingburger event. Earlier this year, they tried to push for more leave for families with kids but TFR is still decreasing.

What really annoys me is that the world seems to orientalize Singapore in a way like they did with Japan, where they project technocratic proficiency into places where Singapore is objectively failing, and locals are eager to play along for clicks and views.

>Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols.
<man who thought socialism was dead surprised to find there was still new ways in which its corpse could be defiled

>>2903034
Aren't the FDD proxies for the West?

>>2924061
Singapore and Japan are the most glazed Asian countries by burger midwits which just exposes their fascism further, as if there was even a need.



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What Young Marx actually thought about personal wealth and standard of living:

<A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls. An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.


- Karl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital (1847), Chapter 6

Basically he is saying that being well-off isn't just about what you have, it's also about what everyone else has. If your income goes up but rich people's wealth increases much faster, you may actually feel poorer compared with them. Humans naturally compare themselves with other people, so our idea of what we need depends partly on the society we live in.

<The thoughts of every piece of private property as such are at least turned against richer private property in the form of envy and the desire to level everything down; hence these feelings in fact constitute the essence of competition. The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the e
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>>2923760
meme made by someone whose only knowledge of the amish comes from amish romances

>>2923760
its funny how the Amish rely on a state that uses technology to uphold its dominance.

>>2923760
well even lenin said the proletariat was only capable of trade union conscious. and duncan does not strike me as an NrX guy. he is not nearly that edgy about it. He is more like "revolutions are cross cultural class alliances but the lower classes inevitably get betrayed by the new ruling class" so he is more of a cynic about it.

>>2923783
kind of like those haredim in israel who don't work or fight but have lots of kids and read torah all day. yeah the amish are actually quite a bit like that.

>>2923760
>just become a rural farmer bro. it's not like capital has a process for seizing the land from peasants and forcing them into the cities or anything



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There isn't a single industry in the West experiencing real growth except defense and AI and calling it "growth" is generous. It’s more of a last-resort attempt to pump life into a rotting cadaver. Meanwhile, China is consolidating global tech innovation, closing in on fusion energy and hardware built to outpace the West entirely. Mass layoffs across traditional SaaS, gaming, and social media confirm the truth: there’s simply no money left in the consumer economy worth extracting, leaving defense as the only viable play against a dead-end market. Which is why we're seeing companies like flock and palantir or anduril suddenly being overvalued.
Im in tech and I'm tired of the entire market. I wonder if at this pace a service economy really makes sense. It's simply unsustainable
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Automation + jobs being exported = lower wages for employees = less buying power employees = no buying products = Crisis of overproduction

Crisis of overproduction = war usually

It’s over man

>>2922639
tis happened befoe doe

This is why we need to build an army of robots, so we can go to war and destroy those robots so we can build more robots.

>>2922066
It's a trillion dollar bet that open models that will run on a $50,000 server rack won't keep pace with OpenAI and Anthropic. They're fucked without massive protectionist policy coming in quick. We can only hope the bay area gets hollowed out into a silicone rust belt because the weather is probably the best in the world.

>>2921971
>innovation and clean energy is capitalism
Nice try.



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>>2924002
did you really make this? it's very good but probably not going to be understandable outside of an already communist audience.




 

I used to think right-wingers just had a different worldview but now I think they're just dumb.

They're wrong about everything: economics, social issues, science. Being right-wing is basically just being retarded.
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>>2924079
Aren't you also like a Jewish Mexican or something?

>>2924080
no im Catholic and Puerto Rican

>>2924081
Ok, I remembered someone with your flag who used to spam the Iran thread I think.

>>2924082
I think theres like at least 5 leftcom flag posters here last time I was paying attention
I post teto pictures mostly I hardly ever go into the iran thread



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consider a grid of cells, each with a value between 0 and 1
1 represents absolute power. 0 represents absolute weakness, or slavery if you will.
all cells start off with a value of 0.4-0.6 to represent natural variation in abilities. this is "primitive communism" cells can slowly accumulate power from the environment through their independent or cooperative labor. in the case of cooperative labor they share the proceeds. cells can also become bound to each other in groups of arbitrary size through confederation. cells can also rob their neighbors of power through competitive behavior. there are two flavors of competitive behavior "envious" where you try to rob a stronger neighbor, but have a higher chance of losing, but also a bigger reward, and "wrathful" where you rob a weaker neighbor, with a higher chance of winning, but also a lower reward. similarly cooperative behavior has two flavors, "philanthropic" where a cell tries to help weaker neighbors, even though they help they get back will be less than they gave away, and "pragmatic" where a cell tries to help stronger neighbors in exchange for protection.

what we find is that power accumulates very quickly in cells, and that "primitive communism" falls apart very quickly. the simulation, no matter how equal it is configured to start out in, very quickly devolves into "class society."

we also find that cells tend to favor "wrathful" competitive behaviors and "pragmatic" cooperative behaviors, sucking up to the powerful, and punching down on the weak. Confederations of cells, when they do form, reproduce these behaviors at the group level, punching down on weaker groups, and sucking up to stronger groups.

The limit to this process seems to be the material available for consumption in the environment.

what we have yet to discover is a way to achieve equal-ish distribution of power that is relatively stable.

our simulation studies continue…
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>>2923129
yeah agreed. though it does make you look good.

>>2923041
Actually becoming less online and getting an IRL social life is how I learned to be so contemptuous of the terminally online

You really do start to realize none of this crap matters

>>2923129

"touch grass" doesn't necessarily just mean getting out of your house more and literally touching grass, it's more of a statement about social isolation and epistemic humility. the world is very big and you are very small, your personal knowledge and perception is a narrow short-range light cone in a vast and deep reality that no individual human mind can even come close to encompassing regardless of what a person does or how they live. but the human mind can overcome its individual limitations through its ability to connect with other human minds and tap into the noosphere of collective human knowledge and perception by way of social interaction, which requires a certain degree of epistemic humility - if you think that you are smart and everyone else in the world is stupid and that your narrow personal knowledge and perception are complete and flawless and can answer every kind of question and solve every kind of problem by egocentrically projecting yourself onto everything in the world, then you have no reason or willingness to listen to other people or care about their thoughts or feelings and you become cut off from the noosphere and isolated and helpless like an ant separated from the colony, or to put it in more familiar terms for OP, like a computer with no internet connection.

there was a time in the late 20th century when wide-eyed techno-optimists believed that the development of computers and global telecommunication networks, i.e. the internet, would enhance humanity's ability to connect with one another and reify the noosphere into a dedicated permanent physical structure and thereby obviate the need for traditional analog social interaction, but sometime around the web 2.0 era it became increasingly obvious that this was a very naive and misguided assumption and now the internet has not only failed to connect humanity together but is actually having the direct opposite effect and making us more disconnected and isolated than ever before which is having dire and far-reaching real-world consequences in virtually every aspect of our lives from our relationships to our closest friends and family members to the people we elect as our world leaders to the temperature of the entire planet we live on. so i do think that "touch grass" and the sentiments behind it are very relevant and important expressions of the cultural zeitPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2923272
>there was a time in the late 20th century when wide-eyed techno-optimists believed that the development of computers and global telecommunication networks, i.e. the internet, would enhance humanity's ability to connect with one another and reify the noosphere into a dedicated permanent physical structure and thereby obviate the need for traditional analog social interaction, but sometime around the web 2.0 era it became increasingly obvious that this was a very naive and misguided assumption and now the internet has not only failed to connect humanity together but is actually having the direct opposite effect and making us more disconnected and isolated than ever before which is having dire and far-reaching real-world consequences in virtually every aspect of our lives from our relationships to our closest friends and family members to the people we elect as our world leaders to the temperature of the entire planet we live on.

>>2923221
you do realize that people who "touch grass" still sometimes are into thought experiments, simulation theory, etc. some of them even get jobs making video games or doing research.



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‘We want justice’: series of rapes trigger mass protests at Indian universities
While some of the key demands of the protest have been better lighting and policing, Dhruw emphasised that for anything to change, the country required a deep societal shift where men no longer felt they had ownership over women’s bodies.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/30/rapes-triggers-mass-protests-indian-universities

Afghanistan’s defense ministry claims forces killed 41 insurgents crossing from Pakistan
The insurgents included members of the Islamic State group, the ministry said in a statement issued late Tuesday night. It said it had killed 41 and captured another 62 in the Kamdesh district of the northeastern province of Nuristan from Sunday to Tuesday. The defense ministry said the fighters had crossed into Afghanistan “with the support” of Pakistan.
https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-pakistan-border-fighting-62e0c91d68e8f8760f1bb7910ee9b38d

Iranians face soaring medicine prices as US blockade and sanctions hit hard
The US naval blockade has forced importers on to more expensive air routes, now threatened by new sanctions on Iranian airlines. Bahman Sabour of the Tehran Pharmacies Association said US sanctions do not directly target medicines, but financial sanctions have long discouraged international banks and companies from processing pharmaceutical transactions for fear of falling foul of restrictions.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/iranians-face-soaring-prices-medicine-us-blockade-and-sanctions-hit-hard

Sadr orders ‘immediate’ dissolution of anti-US force, calls for reciprocal US diplomacy
“We announce the immediate dissolution of the Promised Day Brigade, and the conversion of the Imam al-Mahdi Army into the Ansar al-Imam al-Mahdi Institution,” Sadr said in a Wednesday statement. Sadr also called on the US military to compensate Iraq for Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Hegseth confirms the US military will cut 20% of its generals and admirals
The Pentagon chief announced the creation of a new four-star command to oversee the rollout of autonomous and robotic capabilities in what he called “the fastest peacetime shift in modern military history.” The rollout comes a month after officials said an Army unit based in Europe that specialized in drone warfare had been directed to return to being a traditional infantry batallion, ending its efforts to learn and use the battlefield technology.
https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-pentagon-generals-job-cuts-67a20b026ee858895c7e5ff7fadbc029

Millions of student-loan accounts are being transferred to the Treasury — and the first phase is launching
In addition to the new support center, the Treasury Department is also seeking to partner with vendors to facilitate collections on defaulted student loans, a Treasury official previously told Business Insider. Involuntary collections, which include wage garnishment and the seizure of federal benefits, are paused, and the administration has not commented on when the pause will lift.
https://www.businessinsider.com/student-loan-transfer-to-treasury-first-phase-defaults-repayment-launching-2026-9

Senate Democrats block datacenter energy bill, saying ‘toothless’ legislation ‘misses the mark’
The Ratepayer Protection Act failed by a 57-to-43 vote, falling just shy of the 60 votes necessary to advance through the Republican-controlled chamber. Four Democrats – Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and both Georgia senators, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock – joined Republicans in support of the measure.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/30/senate-datacenter-energy-bill

Groups Call Senate Permitting Deal a ‘Blatant Giveaway to Big Oil and Big Tech’
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CP of the Workers of Spain, Press releases: In light of the mobilizations for the right to housing and the government’s decrees
The Communist Party of the Workers of Spain (PCTE) welcomes the scale and determination of the mobilisations for the right to housing taking place across the country, particularly in Puerta del Sol, following the eviction of Maricarmen. The coalition Government has been forced, solely and exclusively as a result of popular pressure in the streets, to approve two Royal Decrees introducing a number of urgent measures, at a time when the relentless rise in rental and property prices, together with the threat of eviction, is making access to housing increasingly difficult for millions of workers. Once again, organisation and struggle have proven to be the most powerful tools at our disposal: they enable us to win gains and to impose our interests. The lesson that we, as the working class, must draw is the need to continue further down this path. For some time now, the number of strikes and mobilisations by different sectors of workers has been steadily increasing in Spain, and the task now must be to strengthen a unified perspective: organisational unity and programmatic unity.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-the-Workers-of-Spain-Press-releases-In-light-of-the-mobilizations-for-the-right-to-housing-and-the-governments-decrees/

Democrats Have Created a Consultant-Driven Echo Chamber Review of Nothing Left: Confessions of a Democratic Operative by Evan Barker (Threshold Editions, 2026)
“The number one rule of political fundraising,” Evan Barker writes in the first line of Nothing Left: Confessions of a Democratic Operative, “is to never, ever, under any circumstances, speak about it publicly.” Then she spends 288 pages talking about it, and it’s a wonderful thing that she does. Barker’s insider account of her time deep in the bowels of the Democratic Party often reads like The Jungle of Democratic fundraising: Upton Sinclair showed readers how the sausage got made, and Barker shows how the candidates do. By the end, it’s clear that the Democrats are a glorified fundraising organization with an electoral department attached, one that absorbs idealism,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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