/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Any comrades from Utah here?

How do we fix this beyond fucked up state?

The LDS church runs everything here. Nearly every single little detail of the state’s culture is dictated by Mormonism. Mormon temples are the largest buildings in every city and town. Mormon bookstores are more numerous than most other stores, and old school soda shops are more numerous than cafes (Mormons prohibit coffee and tea but allow caffeinated soda for some reason). Multiple buildings, streets, and businesses are named after Mormon things (e.g. “Cumorrah Avenue”). Multi-level marketing companies are everywhere and sponsor things like stadiums (MLM companies are littered with Mormon moms).

The LDS church is basically run like a massive corporation. They are very good at missionizing and making new converts, plus Mormons tend to get married young and have bucketloads of kids. The average Mormon family has between 4-7 children. The point is, the LDS church is highly reactionary and rules over Utah with an iron fist, yet there is almost no internal resistance to it. “Utah” basically is the LDS church. And that’s not even mentioning the entire settler-colonial history of the church either, the mass slaughter of the indigenous that Mormons participated in to create the state of Utah and such.

With that said, how do we deal with this state’s politics if we are socialists living in it? There’s no way someone like AOC or Mamdani or any DSA candidate could ever win here. If there was ever a socialist candidate, they’d either have to ensure the Utah public that they’re a “good Mormon” (which would mean throwing away their principles and participating in a reactionary, settler-colonial theology) or seek to dismantle Utah culture outright by going against the grip of the LDS church, which would be political suicide.

I’m sorry, but I wish this fucking state didn’t exist. Trying to organize anything leftist here feels like a lost cause.

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Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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Hundreads of years of theory all seem like just useless distractions, if we want to end the capitalist mode of production we simply have to kill everyone who supports it regardless of class by growing an army that's big and strong enough to take them on. Just us versus them, if you're not with us you're against us. Isn't this literally just what has to be done?
Of course there might be people who say they are against capitalism yet not support the movement but they should be killed as well, and if they say they support the movement but don't follow the rules of the movement they should be killed too. Seems to me that cheka had it right all along. Hundreads of years wasted on dialectics and philosophy nonsense.
>BUT HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST NUKES?
Just start the rebellion by taking over the nuke sites first and take control. Get the nuclear briefcases and shit first. Prioritize taking over the nuclear sites of a country with nukes in one coordinated go by super special trained bodies of armed men.

Who's with me?

Money is very funny in a Banderite world edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

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The crackdown on immigration in the west has the potential to be a good thing for revolutionary and anti-imperialist states, because it will prevent both brain drain and loss of labor forces. The downside is that these countries won't be able to expel the reactionary elements that would otherwise go to the west, especially the US.

Leftypol could really learn something from Athenian democracy and the story of Aristides.
The fact Athenian democracy worked so well is what saved them numerous times especially from the advances of the Persian forces.

Socialism and communism are not modes of production, they're social orders. The mode of production is capitalism and the next mode of production will be full automation in the transition from semi-automation by the fourth industrial revolution. The feuds and the slave owners and the previous modes of production never did the change consciously and neither did the bourgeois when they brought capitalism, they simply developed as much as they could until they changed, they were not a 200 year movement of trying to consciously enact change, think social darwinism.
Anyway the USSR is the loser and ML failed, Dengism won, when the realpolitik geopolitics and all the blablabla is over and China has won the world it will lead towards full automation.
And you only say full automation is impossible because you misinterpret it, you're like those conservative crackers that say communism isnt possible or its utopian, well too bad you're gonna get fucked in the ass one way or another, sucks for you you wont get to live to see that I'm right.

We need Third-Worldist scroll, like the Deng Scroll. I have already found some Lenin quotes which explicitly debunk imperialist apologists when they say things like, "Third-Worldism isn't Communism," or "Making imperialists' lives materially worse isn't Communism." This project could very well include citations from all communists, including Marx, Engels, Mao, Deng, etc.

<the industrial workers cannot accomplish their epoch-making mission of emancipating mankind from the yoke of capital and from wars if they confine themselves to their narrow craft, or trade interests, and smugly restrict themselves to attaining an improvement in their own conditions, which may sometimes be tolerable in the petty-bourgeois sense. This is exactly what happens to the “labour aristocracy” of many advanced countries, who constitute the core of the so-called socialist parties of the Second International; they are actually the bitter enemies and betrayers of socialism, petty-bourgeois chauvinists and agents of the bourgeoisie within the working-class movement.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/x01.htm
<To tell the workers in the handful of rich countries where life is easier, thanks to imperialist pillage, that they must be afraid of 'too great' impoverishment, is counter-revolutionary. It is the reverse that they should be told. The labour aristocracy that is afraid of sacrifices, afraid of 'too great' impoverishment during the revolutionary struggle, cannot belong to the Party. Otherwise, the dictatorship is impossible, especially in West-European countries.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
<The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch08.htm
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Sooo…….Do you support making drugs legal?
To what limit and why or why not?

Whether for recreational purposes or sale, And how to combat substance abuse and life ruin caused by addiction and children's access to them if they're made fully legal.

Why do these barriers to working abroad/citizen even exist between friendly developed countries especially given the obvious incoming population decline i.e. shrinking tax base? Any sensible country would actively entice migrants from countries with cultures compatible with their own.