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>A 2006 WPO opinion poll found that the majority of Afghans endorsed America's military presence, with 83% of Afghans stating that they had a favorable view of the US military forces in their country. Only 17% gave an unfavorable view.
>A 2015 survey by Langer Research Associates found that 77% of Afghans support the presence of US forces; 67% also support the presence of NATO forces. Despite the problems in the country, 80% of Afghans still held the view that it was a good thing for the United States to overthrow the Taliban in 2001. More Afghans blame the Taliban or al-Qaeda for the country's violence (53%) than those who blame the US (12%).
The US invasion of Aghanistan was done for purely selfish purposes and the US killed civilians regularly and with impunity. However, could an argument be made that the invasion was actually justified, based purely on the comparative evil of the Taliban?
I'm not trolling, I think this is an important discussion to have.
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>Ameritards still trying to pretend their intervention was noble
Kill yourself NOW.
Your people allowed so much kid rape to happen that the locals eventually decided the Taliban were the lesser of two evils and kicked your ass out.

>>2810546
I remember some Afghanistan war documentary, I think "This Is What Winning Looks Like," they talked about how the infrastructure plans never went anywhere and got pocketed by corrupt local elites. So if that was true and generalized through the country you can't even make the excuse about increasing productive forces.

>>2813276
Definitely read The Afghanistan Papers. It goes in depth into what a total shitshow the whole thing was from start to finish. Half the time the ISAF forces weren't even fighting the Taliban but chasing random farmers and bandits around. The first troops to be deployed were taught Arabic instead of Farsi. Pretty much every infrastructure package went directly to warlord palaces or partying in Europe, and reading about the stuff those guys got up to in the 90s will make your skin crawl. The entire thing was a farce.

>>2813119
>the military basically runs the country
from what I understand its exaggerated, the military control the foreign policy and diplomacy, and can throw its weight to make the government fall when it feels its needed, but the civilian government is still in control of internal policy and is a liberal democracy

>>2810546
It's because they wanted to have gay sex with boys without prejudice



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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You gotta really hand it to Kim Il Sung for coming up with an entirely new ideology to get around having to take sides in the Sino Soviet split, he had debts to both China and the USSR and navigated that fact perfectly for the time. Maybe I’m ready to embrace him as eternal president it’s way smarter than what Pol Pot, TPLF, Hoxha, and Le Duan were doing at the time.

THE END IS NEAR

<vidrel
How North Korea is Transforming its Military


>>2809560
>>2809560
LOL that Jannies explicitly thinks this is good quality posting that needs to stay up. Couldn't make these subhumans up, honestly.

>>2813271
If anyone wanted to watch sub-literates post AI 'art' slop they'd go to twitter.com. This is not the site for you.

>>2813275
You are a sub-literate bourgeois nationalist too retarded to comprehend n+1



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What right do these irrelevant nobodies have to appoint themselves as the ambassadors of international Marxism Leninism? What the fuck have they achieved in their entire existence? Who are they to talk shit against the CCP and the KPRF, the largest communist parties on the planet? Where does their idiotic entitlement and arrogance come from?
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People here do realize KKE is not ultra right?

>>2799315
>Government is going crack down on you sooner or later regardless. And the Chinese will sit without so much as a protest latter.
absolute fucking TRVTHNVKE

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>>2813142
anyone who disagrees with the millionaire vanguard party is an ultra

>>2797217
I'm sorry(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>CCP
You mean Capitalist Party of China?
>KPRF
Putin's controlled opposition party, except they are just as reactionary as him.



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<UAE-US-ISRAEL Resuming Project Freedom TM Axis of evil edition.

>Previous bake

>>2800336

Latest News
>Nothing ever happens
<US gasoline prices spiked last week
>Strait's been closed for more than two months
<Trump planning a "short and powerful" strike on Iran
>USS Poopenfarten out of the middle east

>Important Links:

https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:52.7/centery:26.8/zoom:7
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Interimperialist war

Someone bake.


>>2807075
note that vietnam had a communist movement before the war, which iran does not have

>>2807118
can you point me to a resource that explains this process for me? i've tried some searches but they aren't breaking down the process like this



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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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>>2812926
yes

>>2810833
automation, outsourcing, immigrants, destruction of the productive forces, imperialist war…. all have a hard ceiling: which is the subsistence of the average person. eventually the reserve army of labor will be stretched beyond its limits, and the bourgeoisie will have to choose: kill off most people, or give UBI to subsidize consumption. They will have to choose the latter, because the former will leave them with no market, and more productive forces than they need to satisfy themselves. They will create the Wall-E people who exist just to consume, and maybe occasionally be harvested for organs and stem cells.

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>>2812943
how so? unionized workers want more workers to be unionized, it makes you stronger and able to demand more.

>be dirtbag economist
>believe this is a revolutionary stance

>>2813024
I don't understand your point, of course the revolution can't be achieved by only economic means like unionizing, but you can't just chimp out and start killing people, there needs to be a material basis on which to start the fight, and global unionization seems like a good start to push history foward.

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>>2813025
>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
this is economism.
why must a labour union only concern itself with the economic wellbeing of it's members when injustices and tyranny exist outside itself?
Why be content with paying dues to a union that will barely fight for your own rights when the gestapo are disappearing your neighbors?



 

I wrote this article on "Dare To Struggle", a front group for the "Organization of Communist Revolutionaries", itself a splinter group of the RCP (Bob Avakian's cult). There is basically nothing on the group on the internet besides its own posts and websites, I decided to change that. Notable things they've done are threatening to kill other leftist groups for being liberals (despite doing materially the same things as them) and somehow never getting in trouble for them, praising the Shining Path more than any other communist group that actually beat the capitalists in their country, and general retardation and LARPing. Would be interested in seeing what other people think about this group.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dare_To_Struggle_-_Organization_of_Communist_Revolutionaries
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What did they split with Chairman Bob over?

Do they like their babies well done or rare?

>>2812911
you can't cook a baby well done by boiling it, only by roasting it - duh


I read the article on Communism on this wiki and it's essential a very long-winded blog post on why Communism doesn't work from the perspective of an American high school teacher. Very rational.



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<The War Has Already Cost 1 Million Dollars, Squared, Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/

💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2811459
better repost it in the new htread

>>2811386
>the vast majority of Americans are willing and enthusiastic collaborators.
he said the line!

>>2811462
>>2811464
Thirding this, there's a reason why "accelerationism" is almost purely a neo-nazi thing, and you know why that is? It's because by adopting accelerationism as a strategy you are tacitly admitting that nobody sane would support your political faction under the present circumstances, and the only way you can ever take power is by deliberately making everything worse for everyone until you can brutalize people into following you out of fear and for basic necessities.

>>2811409
holy fedpost

>>2809984
>They want you to ignore Communism and instead get defensive over your settler identity. They want you to have no solidarity with proles of other races and instead feel paranoid that you're going to be either lynched by crackkkers or found guilty of being a settleroid at the JDPON tribunal.
well put



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thread #2

French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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>>2812834
Compliqué de ne pas finir en EHPAD à cet âge là… J'espère que ça va quand même bien pour lui.

Voici un article du dernier Monde Diplomatique à propos de l'industrie de la guerre en France (opportunités investissements pour les bourgeois, etc.)

>>2812866
J'aime bien Jean Baudrillard, même s'il a tout pompé sur Guy Debord en y ajoutant du jargon encore plus obscure, mais des comme lui on n'en fera pas deux. Imagine un intellectuel français qui écrirait dans Libération et le Guardian demain "La Guerre en Iran n'existe pas". Impensable à notre époque.

>>2812869
If nothing else Baudrillard helped me understand advertising, made me hate it bone deep whereas before I was merely annoyed. We’ll see how much damage the real economy can take before sign value and simulacrum collapses. After COVID I’m not too hopeful, maybe that’s anglo thinking.

>>2812873
Oui je pense qu'il écrivait à une époque assez différente, plus prospère, celle de Fukuyama et de sa thèse d'une "fin de l'histoire" néolibérale à laquelle Fukuyama lui-même ne croit plus.
Baudrillard les a un peu trollé quoi, mais je dirais que de nos jours, les acharnés de manifs sont généralement soit des jeunes urbains qui aiment bien les Labubus, mais sont quand même bien énervé.e.s quand ils voient l'état de leur compte en banque en milieu de mois, et des vieux qui ne se reconnaissent pas vraiment dans la société actuelle comparée à l'état d'insouciance qu'ils avaient après le baby-boom et une économie en pleine croissance, et ceux au milieu qui ne gagnent pas assez de thunes pendant que plusieurs potes à eux se sont mariés et ont une existence de classe moyenne confortable (de plus de plus dur à avoir de nos jours).
Quand on ne peut plus s'acheter le signe, le signe nous fout le seum, pour faire simple. Et on se déchaîne sur des signes de pauvres comme la Palestine ou un simple gilet jaune.



 

Cairo disarmament talks stall, raising fears of a renewed Israeli offensive in Gaza
Diplomatic sources indicate Mladenov has prioritised disarmament above all other issues, relegating reconstruction of the devastated Gaza Strip to a secondary concern. Palestinian officials have repeatedly rejected this sequencing, arguing that humanitarian relief should not be contingent on the surrender of weapons. Hamas reaffirmed its refusal in its latest response submitted in Cairo on Saturday, insisting Israel must first meet its obligations under the initial phase of the ceasefire and provide stronger security guarantees.
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-ceasefire-cairo-talks-stall-israel-eyes-return-war

Israel to sue New York Times over article describing its rape of Palestinians
Israel's MFA wrote: "Following the publication by Nicholas Kristof in The New York Times of one of the most hideous and distorted lies ever published against the State of Israel in the modern press, which also received the backing of the newspaper, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar have instructed the initiation of a defamation lawsuit against The New York Times."
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-sue-new-york-times-article-describing-its-rape-palestinians

Iran urges BRICS to condemn US, Israel for war, exposing bloc divisions
Araqchi said Iran was a "victim of illegal expansionism and warmongering". He asked the BRICS+ grouping - comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China, ​South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran and the UAE - to resist "Western hegemony and the sense of impunity that the ⁠U.S. believes it is entitled to". "Iran therefore calls upon BRICS member states and all responsible members of the international community to explicitly condemn violations of ​international law by the United States and Israel," he said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/india-says-emerging-nations-eye-brics-groPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Supreme court allows abortion pill mifepristone to continue to be available by mail
The decision came nearly a half hour after the court missed its own 5pm EST deadline. Louisiana has no standing to challenge mail-order abortion, the court found, sending the case back to the fifth circuit. The suit is expected to return to the court on an official appeal, instead of emergency requests from drug manufacturers, in another term.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/14/supreme-court-mifepristone-abortion-pill-upheld

==Muslim American groups say Republicans are weaponizing congressional hearings=
Muslim ​American groups said congressional hearings that Republican lawmakers cast as aimed at making the U.S. "sharia-free" ‌are being weaponized against Muslim minorities in the United States by stoking fear against them. Republicans, who hold a majority in both chambers of Congress, titled a Wednesday hearing by a House Judiciary Subcommittee as "Sharia-Free America: Why Political Islam and ​Sharia Law are Incompatible with the U.S. Constitution." A similar hearing was also held in February.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/muslim-american-groups-say-republicans-are-weaponizing-congressional-hearings-2026-05-15/

Crypto industry scores win as Clarity Act regulation bill clears Senate hurdle
During the hearing, both Republicans and Democrats committed to continue working through areas of disagreement, including how best to ensure bad actors using digital assets can be caught and ethics language to address the issue of elected officials, such as Trump, profiting from crypto.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/14/clarity-act-congress-crypto-senate.html

DOJ Reportedly Set to Drop Fraud Charges Against Billionaire After He Hired Trump Attorney
The New York Times reported on Thursday that the DOJ—now headed by former Trump attorney Todd Blanche—is working on ending its case against Adani, who waPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Housing ourselves and others: 50 years of the Advisory Service for Squatters
Last October, the Advisory Service for Squatters celebrated its 50th anniversary, though squatting has been around much longer. In October 2024, we published the 15th edition of the famous Squatters Handbook, which had to be more detailed and complex than earlier editions. Squatting used to be a mass movement; a way for almost anyone in need to house themselves or make space for social use, against the domination of buildings by money and power. But after decades of attacks, sacred property values have been gradually restored, patrolled by the law and the increasingly bloated security industry. In 2012, a law was passed to criminalise squatting in empty residential buildings in England and Wales.
https://libcom.org/article/housing-ourselves-and-others-50-years-advisory-service-squatters

Indian communist parties suffer historic defeat: how did we get here?
The April-May state elections were an historic turning point in Indian politics. Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist BJP conquered West Bengal, while the Left Democratic Front (LDF) lost control of Kerala. For the first time since 1977, not a single Indian state will be led by a communist party. The Communist Party of India (Marxist) – the largest and, in words, the most radical of the two main communist parties – described the results in Kerala as a “serious setback.” This is something of an understatement. The Indian National Congress – the main party of Indian capitalism – won 63 seats. Its allies in the United Democratic Front (UDF) won another 39, giving the UDF 102 of the 140 seats in Kerala’s state assembly. Meanwhile, the vote share for the CPI(M)-led coalition of four parties, including the Communist Party of India (CPI), fell by 12 percent. These results are nothing short of a catastrophe. However, this did not come out of the blue. It is the culmination of decades of decline for India’s communist parties, which have abandoned the ideas and methods of Marx and Lenin in favour of criminal class collaborationism. Let us look at the lessons for the working class and youth today.
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No seriously. Why did veganism and animal rights activism seemingly die out entirely from the left?

I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces. Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore, or gives a shit about animal rights.

Having become an anarchist as a teenager in the early 2000s, I fully remember how interwoven the radical left was with the animal rights and vegan movements. Gen X and xennial comrades in particular were very dogmatic about this issue, arguably more than they were most issues concerning US imperialism. But the younger generation doesn’t seem to care at all. Why?

For the record, I was never vegan and I eat an omnivore diet now, but still.
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>>2812018
>killing two cows is worse than killing one cow.
Since you believe torturing and killing animals is bad, are you vegan? If not, why? If killing two cows is worse than killing one, then killing none is the best, is it not?

>>2812023
>one guy
Abusing animals is in their job description.

>>2812031
partially because i am a lazy, flawed person who is good at compartmentalizing (this is of course 99% of the practical reason), partially because i am a pedant who judges that buying discounted meat (i am also a cheapskate) kills no cows (the killing comes before the selling) and that a structural resolution is necessary (and i can contribute to a structural resolution by defending vegans online while quietly continuing to eat meat and by preaching the gospel of "just increase the price of meat" - obviously i undermine the first part by being honest with you, but here we are.), and partially because i have a calvinist streak and so have always been at ease with the idea that i'm mired in sin (and suspicious of meat-eaters instinctive desire to defend themselves or rationalize why obvious wrongdoing is actually fine, rather than to accept their fractional involvement in immorality and with it, the generally evil state of the world.)

>>2812018
>utilitarianism
wow cool ethical framework, where'd you find it? philosophy 101? you dumbass. you basic bitch.

utilitarianism is the mark of the pseud. morons use it when they're out of their depth shortly before losing. tim pool does it constantly. one cow feeds a lot of people. if killing one cow feeds many people it must be good. killing two must be even better!

it gets proved over and over that vegans don't care about animals enough to do proper scholarship, and prefer to post torture porn which is fast, cheap, and cathartic. you guys have consistently failed to prove that veganism isn't ascetic moralism, and that ending meat consumption is even a worthy goal.

hell, I've been begging for proof of the environmental benefits that isn't: vegan resource use = resource use - livestock resource use. or economic proof that isn't based on imperial core net importers like europe or north america.

stupid fucking moralist fucking reductive arguments that don't quantify anything and abuse outliers are worthless. you are worthless. go eat more processed vegan slop from israel you mindless bovine.

>>2797233
This is objectively the correct answer.



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