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Ecuador Calls for Declaration of Solidarity Law Unconstitutional
During a hearing that began in the morning and concluded just after 7:00 p.m. local time, five citizen complaints against the provision were analyzed. This law, which, among other issues, addresses regulations for the declaration of an internal armed conflict. In their interventions, the plaintiffs focused on problems related to the processing of the law approved by the National Assembly, which has a pro-government majority.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/ecuador-calls-for-declaration-of-solidarity-law-unconstitutional/

Bolivia’s long-ruling party was almost eliminated from Congress, final vote results show
On the basis of the official numbers, neither Paz’s Christian Democratic Party nor Quiroga’s Libre Party has enough lawmakers to push through their proposals alone, with the CDP taking 70 out of 166 total congressional seats and Libre taking 53. Crucially, for the first time since Bolivia’s 2002 parliamentary elections, whichever opposition candidate wins will have no trouble gaining leverage in both the 36-seat Senate and the less powerful, 130-seat Chamber of Deputies to enact their plans to resolve the country’s worst economic crisis in 40 years.
https://apnews.com/article/bolivia-elections-congress-paz-quiroga-opposition-9d79eeec80bc660b85c243b668b903de

Uribe victims press charges against former president and sons
In a press release, the victims and their attorneys said that they will press criminal charges over the defamation, slander, harassment and threats they allegedly suffered after a Bogota court found Uribe guilty and sentenced him to 12 years of house arrest.
https://colombiareports.com/uribe-victims-press-charges-against-former-president-and-sons/

French opposition parties vow to overthrow Bayrou government in Sept 8 confidence vote
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Protesters confront U.S. Rep. Wesley Bell at town hall about his support of Israel
The condemnation from some in the crowd at the Post Building in downtown St. Louis largely drowned out support for Bell. Attendee Saul Glist said he was unimpressed with the congressman’s response to some questions and to the crowd’s criticism.
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politics-issues/2025-08-20/wesley-bell-st-louis-town-hall-israel-protest

Chinese scientist at University of Michigan enters “no contest” plea despite Fifth Amendment violations
In a Detroit federal courtroom on August 19, Chengxuan Han, a 28-year-old Chinese doctoral student at the University of Michigan (U-Mich), entered a plea of nolo contendere, or “no contest,” to politically motivated federal charges. This decision comes just days after Han’s defense team filed a motion to suppress statements obtained through egregious violations of her Fifth Amendment rights.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/08/26/djdb-a26.html

Judge rejects Cuomo’s attempt to make texts in harassment lawsuit public as he runs for NYC mayor
The decision comes more than a month after New York agreed to pay $450,000 to settle a lawsuit from Brittany Commisso, an ex-aide who alleged Cuomo sexually harassed and groped her while he was in office. Cuomo, who has denied the allegations, resigned as governor in 2021 after a report from the state attorney general determined that he had sexually harassed at least 11 women.
https://apnews.com/article/cuomo-sexual-harassment-lawsuit-commisso-new-york-b66c59c7de22c283e87b75ed6cd723d1

DNC Votes Down Resolution Calling for Israeli Arms Embargo to Halt US Complicity in Gaza Genocide
NOTUS reports that, in the wake of the resolution's failure, DNC Chairman Ken Martin announced that he "was forming a task force to continue discussion of the issue, indicating that the committee planned to consider a new resolution about Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

So what happens to Bolivia now? Arce will probably just bow out, but I see the Evistas possibly trying something funny. Organizing a null vote and then just accepting the elections would be really fucking dumb

Disaster Capitalism in Haiti
Senior research associate at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington D.C., Jake Johnston, is the author of Aid State: Elite Panic, Disaster Capitalism, and the Battle to Control Haiti (Saint Martin’s Press, 2024). He was the premier analyst for the center’s “Haiti Relief and Reconstruction Watch website since 2010, just weeks after a magnitude 7.0 earthquake devastated Haiti.” Originally from Portland ME, and now residing in Washington D.C., Johnston has contributed to the New York Times, The Nation, The Boston Review, and The Intercept. Journalist and author Naomi Klein praised Johnston for his “stubborn commitment to tracking Haiti’s struggles for a just recovery and real democracy — and his deft narrative and investigative skills.” Yale historian Greg Grandin remarked that “Aid State is a harrowing journey into the heart of modern neocolonial darkness, revealing the thick network of international organizations, including The United Nations, that have occupied Haiti for decades.” And professor of French and African American studies at Yale, Marlene L. Daut, stated that the book “should be required reading for all world leaders before they even think about meddling in Haitian politics — challenging popular notions of what it means to best support Haiti and with decades-long experience reporting on Haitian affairs to support his shrewd analysis, [the author] dismantles the idea that aid after disaster has anything to do with humanitarianism.”
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/08/22/disaster-capitalism-in-haiti/

In the UK, Poverty Is Driving Mental Illness Among the Young
If you’ve spent any time at all on TikTok recently, you’ll have seen plenty of videos from young people despairing about life in the UK. Videos with captions like “Why is everything so expensive?” “Why is rent so high?” “Why can’t I get a doctor’s appointment?” are going viral every day. With no clear answers, let alone solutions, to any of these questions, many are opting to leave the country altogether. Now more than ever, young people feel as though they are facing these challenges alone. Without the social and community infrastructure that was destroyed by austerity, they have nowhere to go for support. And the hypercompetitive culture created by nePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

THANK YOU BASED NEWS ANON

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Thanms News Anon



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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2446754
Guy sounds like a wanker (labor time accounting is a trauma response hurrdurr). He mentions the works of Eliyahu M. Goldratt. We actually had threads for reviews of management books (back in 2019 on 8chan/bunkerchan) and Goldratt's stuff was among those books. I have no idea if anyone archived those threads. Anyway, a bias of Goldratt's stories was that he really assumed the bottlenecks to be stubborn and stick in the same place for days, whereas in reality you really can get to the point that the bottleneck switches positions after a few minutes. By the way, Goldratt got into legal trouble for making false optimality claims about his management software.

>>2440889
>not gonna watch this trash
why announce your intention to not do something?
>cybernetics is a bourgeois pseudoscience
why? elaborate.

>>2447108
Roger is a contrarian, but at least he admits that he is
>Anyway, a bias of Goldratt's stories was that he really assumed the bottlenecks to be stubborn and stick in the same place for days, whereas in reality you really can get to the point that the bottleneck switches positions after a few minutes
hence why you want inventory as a safety margins. the TPS people are autistically against that

>>2447210
Lean production is for overall low inventory, not zero inventory. It's also not really a goal to cut inventory equally in every place (that would be autistic), but to cut inventory in the big picture. Achieving this might involve actually increasing inventory in some spots or even creating inventory spots where there aren't any currently.

My impression of Tom O'Brien is that he really has a very one-sided and extreme view of DA POWAH OF LEAN because he just read texts introducing it and he stays in the hype zone of the early convert for longer than a manager would, simply because he is not a manager. Without the real-world check, you have to be much smarter and very self-critical to learn at the same pace as a dumb person trying it out for real.

>>2448076
>Lean production is for overall low inventory, not zero inventory. It's also not really a goal to cut inventory equally in every place (that would be autistic), but to cut inventory in the big picture. Achieving this might involve actually increasing inventory in some spots or even creating inventory spots where there aren't any currently.
this is still ass-backwards. your need for inventory depends on how accurate your model of the production line is, and how much variance (noise) there is. if you know what a bunch of work stations in a production line will do, and the probability that they will keep on doing that, then you should be able to work out the appropriate level of inventory so as to keep costs down while maintaining steady throughput. if inventory is cheap enough then using more of it is no harm, so long as you have proper regulation
one question I find myself asking is how can this lean stuff actually be instrumentalized? how is the necessary politics brought into it?
>he really has a very one-sided and extreme view of DA POWAH OF LEAN
his zeal is very strong, yes. the same goes with his views on Marx, since they too are detached from reality



 

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Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

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I said this >>2446808

then they admit it >>2447664

>>2447689
>is he allowed
It's 2025

>>2446591
I've only ever seen this as a photo and not as a video. fascinating

>>2447635
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Honestly just looking for music suggestions from you guys. I personally think there's an argument for The Smiths.
Best album suggestion gets a cookie.
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>>2446942
italanoise huh, yet another reason to love bordiga

>>2445880
An album created by a schizophrenic who drowned himself

>>2445880
OP pic is a trccn, yes?


Moved to >>>/music/15960.



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What's with the insane amount of chuds in Indonesia, Philipines, Malaysia and Myanmar? Virtually almost everyone from this region I engaged with online is a turbo chudcel.
Pic is indonesian meme calling for genocide of Chinese and Arabs in Indonesia
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They're crypto crackers, obviously.

>We need to speak about the creeping far-right in SEAsia
Do we?

>What's with the insane amount of chuds in Indonesia, Philipines, Malaysia and Myanmar?

Cold War Battleground where the US came out on top.

>>2446996
If you don't live here then odds are you are talking to the ultra privileged and social losers.

>>2447469 (me)
I will say SEA as a region is what LATAM would be without any pink tides. Every party is a website of patronage and maybe Sinophobia. Succdems try to keep things real but they are in the minority.



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Tunisia’s People’s Movement Party launches hunger strike in solidarity with Gaza
The People's Movement party (El-Tayyar el-Chaabi) in Tunisia on Sunday announced a week-long hunger strike in solidarity with Palestinians being bombed and starved by Israel in Gaza for over 22 months. The party issued a statement, reading: "We activists announce the start of our hunger strike, commencing today [Sunday], for a week at the party’s headquarters in the capital, in solidarity with our people in Gaza – their pain, hunger, and suffering in confronting the enemy".
https://www.newarab.com/news/tunisia-peoples-movement-party-launches-hunger-strike-gaza

Israel bombed Gaza hospital a second time, killing rescuers, say health officials
Israel bombed the main hospital in southern Gaza on Monday and then struck the same spot again as rescuers and journalists rushed to help the wounded, killing at least 20 people including five journalists, health officials said. The first strike hit the top floor of a building at the Nasser hospital, killing the Reuters journalist Hussam al-Masri and others. Journalists and rescuers then rushed to the scene to help the wounded, when a second bomb struck the same spot, 15 minutes later.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Palestinian bus driver in Israel attacked by youths shouting 'death to Arabs'
Tamar Ohana, head of the transportation department at Koach LaOvdim, an Israeli socialist trade union, told MEE that her organisation has seen a significant increase in the number and severity of assaults, directed mainly at Palestinian drivers. "Yesterday's incident joins a wave of assaults, each of which is more serious than the other," Ohana said, adding that "there are several assaults a week, with a driver hospitalised at least twice a week". According to Ohana, many cases of assault on bus drivers, which are not documented, are not reported.
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Judge halts Trump administration from deporting Kilmar Ábrego García for now
Xinis, who was appointed by former president Obama, told justice department lawyers that the government is “absolutely forbidden” from deporting Ábrego until she holds an evidentiary hearing scheduled for Friday. Xinis further instructed that Ábrego must remain at his detention center in Virginia. She then asked deputy assistant attorney general Drew Ensign whether her order was sufficient for the justice department to follow, which he agreed it was.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/25/kilmar-abrego-garcia-uganda-deportation-trump

Millions in Harris campaign expenses still weigh on the DNC
Democrats have asked Harris and her team to hold more fundraisers and call more donors to solicit contributions to help pay off the expenses, but her team believes she's done her part. Harris has allowed the DNC to continue using her email list to help raise money and has held a few small fundraising events. But the total money raised from the events has been disappointing, according to two people familiar with the matter.
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/25/kamala-harris-campaign-expenses-dnc
https://archive.ph/jZpwN

Trump signs orders aimed at ending cashless bail policies
U.S. President Donald Trump signed executive orders on Monday that aimed to limit no-cash bail in the nation's capital and threatened to revoke federal funding for other jurisdictions that use it, part of a White House effort to push crime-fighting to the top of the national agenda. "Cashless bail, we're ending it," Trump said during a signing ceremony in the Oval Office.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-signs-orders-aimed-ending-cashless-bail-policies-2025-08-25/

Philadelphia’s mass transit cuts foreshadow possible similar moves by other agencies across US
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Latin American Communist Parties denounce US imperialist aggression against Venezuela
The Communist Party of Mexico condemns the military threat of US imperialism against the people of Venezuela. Under the guise of combating drug trafficking, the US has deployed three destroyers and more than 4,000 troops to the coasts of Venezuela. The close ties between the United States and its agencies, such as the CIA and the DEA, and drug trafficking groups are widely documented, as evidenced by the Iran-Contra scandal. This is also the paramilitary and counterinsurgency use of its "war on drugs" strategy. Its current use is a pretext to escalate imperialist aggression against Venezuela, with a view to securing control of Venezuelan oil fields and combating the positioning of Chinese and Russian capital in the region. We denounce this interventionist maneuver, as well as any attempt at imperialist intervention in Venezuela. We express our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and working class, who must independently decide their future, as well as our solidarity with the Communist Party of Venezuela, which is fighting under difficult conditions for Venezuela's sovereignty and the concrete and historic rights and objectives of the working class.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/08/latin-american-communist-parties-denounce-us-imperialist-aggression-against-venezuela.html

The Uncommitted Movement, a Year Later
In Chicago last August, the Democratic Party staged the version of itself it prefers: lights on cue, music in major keys, speeches polished for unity. For those of us who organized the Uncommitted campaign, the absence onstage told the real story. In the fall of 2023, I was pitching stories to mainstream media outlets about antiwar protests and how Muslim, Arab, and young voters were souring on the Democratic Party over Joe Biden’s Israel policy. Meanwhile, at Thanksgiving, several of my own relatives told me outright this would be the first election where they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the Democrat at the top of the ticket. Around the same time, a producer at a major network told me that soon I’d have a harder time getting Gaza stories on air, because by January “everything will be about the election.”Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

TYBNA



 

Is Venezuela about to be fucking invaded?

>Venezuela mobilizes its militia after US says it’s deploying military forces to waters around Latin America:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/19/americas/venezuela-maduro-militia-us-military-deployment-intl-latam
>US destroyers head toward waters off Venezuela as Trump aims to pressure drug cartels:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-destroyers-maduro-drug-cartels-e33794ebc24d9031e536d132ce205b4c
>Donald Trump Deploys 3 Missile Destroyers: What to Know:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-missile-destroyers-venezuela-drug-cartels-2115786
>Proposed United States invasion of Venezuela:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_invasion_of_Venezuela
>Estados Unidos, “dispuesto a usar todo su poder” contra el narcotráfico desde Venezuela:
https://elpais.com/us/2025-08-19/estados-unidos-dispuesto-a-usar-todo-su-poder-contra-el-narcotrafico-desde-venezuela.html

I don't know if you've heard the news, but several US ships have sailed towards Venezuela's coast in order to "combat drug trafficking". Someone investigate the ships to see if they're old to see if they gonna false-flag Venezuela. I know that Nothing Ever Happens, but Trump has already put a price to Maduro's head and these news… I think something's cooking, something's sizzling.

Just making this thread in the case to discuss this, and to see if there are further happenings. I'm going to be honest, I'm getting bad vibes from this.
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Which imperialist front is venezuela part of?

Why are you all talking about Russia and this shit. Russia has nothing to do with the bourgeois country of Venezuela. It is a simple case that you need to support Venezuela against brutal U$ imperialism.

>>2447374
Supporting Spaniard kkkolonizers? No thanks, I read Sakai

Neurotic thread, nothing ever happens

>>2447374
no you don't, you don't have to support shit you retard



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i want an actual lefty imageboard how do we get people on here
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>>2447145
Despite what you said and the fact something like /leftypol/ could never come to be in today's landscape, despite the history of site drama and terrible moderation, this place and even .net to an extent aren't going anywhere. There is strength in being a legacy community, as most imageboards are nowadays. The concept has become very well defined, being a cultural force far above the number of our users, and while reversing the downwards trend seems unrealistic right now, we only have to stick around long enough for this to happen.

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>>2447150
>I've been posting here (on and off) since the 8chan days
I seriously doubt that. Your earliest attempts at shilling your websites reek of ignorance towards imageboard culture (not the samefagging though which is a time-honored tradition) and i would probably guess correctly if i said you didn't even know how to use a tripcode until a few months ago.

>>2447124
>Old Android ads strongly focused on comparing the iphone (which was percieved to be the default phone choice) to the Android, all these ads ended up doing was reinforcing that Android plays second fiddle to iphone.

ok but why the fuck would i want a device that doesn't even let me put files directly onto it

imagine being at iphones

>>2447156
Yeah, I see that. (weighs like a nightmare though)

>>2447162
why would i use a tripcode before I had a project to shill? i still post as an anon here a lot too haha



 

Originally I'm a MLM, but i've been reading more into libertarian socialist sphere lately , and discovered platformism and other as such anarchist-libertarian socialist ideologys and ideas, and with this wishing to ask how could a "nation" with a such system platformism/anarcho syndicalism/democratic confederalism, anarcho comm, etc. Would be able to effectivelly protect itself from other bigger [or smaller-same size] imperialist, capitalist, authoirtarian-states, throw military means

And on the other hand, how would such a socities would even function in sharing materials, education, medicine, higher education, or manage crime, punishment, law, politics, councils/government/'s ?
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>>2444739
The big reactionary joke is you, because state capitalism and radical reforms that lead to intensified class struggle in the bourgeois state and wage equalization do not contradict the revolutionary strategy for communists to sabotage the bourgeois state by lowering the rate of profit so that a revolutionary situation arises. Then, the proletariat, organized collectively as a class, can use dual power with the Red Guard to overthrow the bourgeois state and initiate all the actions I mentioned to socialize the economy by expropriating all capitalists.

Let's see more quotes from Marx and Engels' programs that demonstrate my correctness:

<Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. The main measures, emerging as the necessary result of existing relations, are the following:


<(i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.


<(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.


<(iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.


<(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.


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>>2445126
The same text says that the petty bourgeoisie will become impossible to exist and these are workers with their own means of production selling in the market, your interpretation goes against Marx's own program in the Manifesto and in the text itself it is extremely written that the sale and purchase of products that go against what you fantasize for yourself will be prohibited and even against you it is written that all bourgeois individualism and bourgeois freedom will be abolished, Marxism does not tolerate anti-social narcissists who fantasize about themselves as isolated from collective society and who do not accept the domination of the proletarian class.

>>2446004
you already said "socialism is when the governmemt owns everything and forces people to work", so why repeat yourself?

>>2446127
Because there is a difference between property that can be sold and bought individually by people or by the state separate from society, such as state-owned companies that are part of the military sector of a capitalist state, all property in a socialist economy must be common property of the means of production of society so that the population benefits only in its use and not as a product to be sold on the market. This will be done with national collective economic planning. However, before the socialization of the economy, there is a short period when the dictatorship of the proletariat is implemented, which can use state capitalism to facilitate the socialization of the economy. In the state today, this will not be a problem because capitalism is already developed throughout the world and there is no isolated small-scale peasant production with a lack of technology, which will require a longer period for the economy to be formed only by common public property and cooperatives that do not compete with each other with an exclusive relationship with the socialist state. Remember that the dictatorship of the proletariat will last as long as there is no global socialist hegemony to remove the imperialist threat, various contradictions still exist, and other requirements have not yet been met so that the high stage of communism can be completed for the withering away of the state with the end of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

>>2446391
you have repeated yourself yet again; "socialism is when the government owns everything in society, and we just rent out the government's property" (dont ask questions about who is in charge of the government though).



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So fucking tired of retards who jerk off to photorealism and AI slop while hating on any art movement after Romanticism, even though the best avant-garde artists like Salvador Dalí had to study classical techniques meticulously before doing any kind of abstraction.

You're not sophisticated, you're just a mental child who thinks art has to be "pretty" or it has no value.
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>>2445178
picrel1: cat / dog / mammal of some sort. Could be a snout or titties.
picrel2: neighborhood / street of buildings / piles of dishes
picrel3: idk but it looks edible, probably fruit

Umm taste is subjective sweaty

>>2445178
what about this? utterly inhuman; scratching the infinite abyss with its bold style. and that'll be $100,000, please.

>>2444618
There's a great interview with Frank Zappa, where he talks about Prog Rock. He says that the only reason he gets lumped in with the genre is that his music serves a similar audience, because otherwise, his stuff sounds nothing like them. I always think about that interview when people talk about "modern art" as a lump-sum thing.

The problem with "modern art" as a term is that, in typical usage, it means "not classical art". Fauvism, Surrealism, Minimalism and Pop Art are all "modern" art movements, yet in terms of both form and content, they have virtually nothing in common, and even within these categories, individual artists have done very different work from other artists.

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is trump a win for pop art?



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