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Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя

Where are the russian protests against the involvement of their state in the Sudan genocide?

>>2584574
There was no genocide if the US thinks there was.
That's dialectical materialism, liberal.



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Lets say in 2028 The second american civil war broke out because the election oreconomic collapse, and it was a muti factional civil war.

If the left, whether marxists, anarchists, the DSA, or CPUSA, actually won after the collapse, how would the social revolution really unfold and how would they fix the generational capitalist conditioning. Netherless how the new society would be organized politically.

I feel the need to ask this because this site talks a lot about the coming collapse but doesn't really talk about how it would be organized afterwards.
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>>2585319
>Elimination of judges and the judiciary, with juries presiding over cases
based

>>2585319
>An alliance of special forces command with a broad people's militia taking control of the US is the most likely situation.

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>hexayurt
you vill live in ze hive und produce ze honey

>>2585520
t. never been out to the country and slept in freezing cold and drafty houses or alternatively been out in the country with no power when it's more than 90 degrees inside.

>>2585542
I like the idea of the hexayurt. tbh I was just bumping this thread because I found it interesting



 

Im genuinely not sure if people are just larping for fun or something and making fun of fascists which is the good part about it. But it's stupid as in some people genuinely believe in it and also, communism is a materialist ideology hence I don't get the idealist and metaphysical thing about it. If were gonna win the propaganda war at least make it materialist and real revolution and not some metaphysical buddhist shit
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>Red Shambhala: Magic, Prophecy, and Geopolitics in the Heart of Asia is a 2011 non-fiction work by Andrei Znamenski. The book explores the links between Bolshevik revolutionaries and their attempt to influence Vajrayana Buddhism in Mongolia and Tibet, as well as indigenous shamanic elements in the Russian Far East. In particular, some elements within the Bolsheviks were interested in using the apocalyptic Shambhala prophesies of the Kalachakra Tantra to influence the Buddhists into supporting Marxism–Leninism

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>>2577266
>at least make it materialist and real revolution and not some metaphysical buddhist shit

>>2577446
marx was a revisionist

>>2577570
yeah, he revised utopian socialism into scientific socialism.

>>2577894
truth nuke



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2585297

Ugandan memes aside, my experience is that the title is generally. A large segment of Africans may not like lgbtetc, but it is not at all preoccupation. There are just many other major issues in their lives.



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Which is the real and correct way of material analysis?
General Relativity?
Quantum Mechanics?
Quantum Gravity?
M Theory?
???

No teleology answers.
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>>2584968
Yeah, closest you can mangling material analysis into an ontology is that one anon's jingle of "only that which matters exists for all intents and purposes," but that's not even close to something Marx said, that's just a new idea.

>>2584290
we have failed the children

>>2584259
>Which is the real and correct way of material analysis?
That's not how knowledge works. The only certainty is that certainty is impossible. There's always a chance that you're completely wrong about everything, always a chance that there's important information that you're simply unaware of. Ultimately, what you believe what you believe because it feels correct to you, because it feels sensible and obvious, and/or fits in well with other things that you feel are sensible and obvious. And at any point, a new piece of key information can introduce itself and topple everything you thought you knew.

As an aside, it's funny to see rightoids get angry when you say this, because it's the only real non-moral justification for freedom of speech.

>>2584259
The good thing about materialism and science is that when we don't have enough data to reach a conclusion, we just admit "we don't know" and continue to investigate that matter further. No bullshittery about how it's a "mystery" or "God did it" or rules against blasphemy for asking questions.
Unless you think I'm painting idealists too harshly here, please remember the Catholic church burnt Copernicus at the stake for suggesting a Heliocentric solar system, and threatened Galileo with the same - only to subject him to a life in house arrest when he recanted. And even then, the church only accepted the Heliocentric model as late as in *1993*.
Besides, idealists themselves are fundamentally split between those who admit a physical reality exists and those who are affectively solipsistic.
If you as an idealist accept that a material reality exists, then you are still left with the same question as materialists on how the world physically operates, because if your God/s made material reality then your God/s must also create a model of physics by which it functions.
And if alternatively you are the type of idealist to deny there is any material reality whatsoever, then you are in a position where you are unable to prove anything at all is truly real beyond your own thoughts, so the question of physical laws is a nonsense and the nature of reality becomes a topic that is not possibly knowable.

>>2584259
>the real and correct way of material analysis?
idk, but Einstein was interested in Spinoza, so his dialectics is probably a good start.
>No teleology answers.
<Teleology is the broad concept of purpose or final cause (a future goal causes present action), often linked to philosophy or divine intent, while teleonomy (coined by Pittendrigh/Mayr) describes the apparent purpose in biological systems, explained by evolved genetic programs and mechanisms (like evolution/natural selection), not a conscious designer or future-driven cause, making it scientifically testable. In short: Teleology = "Why" (ultimate purpose); Teleonomy = "How" (evolved function/mechanism)
Systems and process based thinking is the new paradigm



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German MPs rubberstamp military service plan amid school pupil protests
The change will include the obligatory screening of all 18-year-old men to gauge their suitability to serve in the military from 1 January, but does not include conscription, as favoured by some conservative politicians. If the model fails to pull in enough recruits, parliament will be compelled to discuss the reintroduction of conscription, the defence minister, Boris Pistorius, told the Bundestag.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/05/german-mps-rubberstamp-military-service-plan-amid-school-pupil-protests

Greek police fire tear gas at protesting farmers threatening to blockade airport
Irate farmers have deployed thousands of tractors and other agricultural vehicles at border crossings and key points along highways across the country, periodically stopping traffic and threatening to completely blockade the roads, as well as airports and ports.
https://apnews.com/article/greece-farmers-protest-subsidies-72b207e4c3e3f2354cd94b4ccb832eb2

Amnesty International condemns ‘farcical trial’ against 24 humanitarian workers and demands all charges dropped
The trial against Irish citizen Sean Binder, Syrian refugee Sara Mardini, Greek citizen Nassos Karakitsos and others began on Thursday on the island of Lesbos. Mr Binder, Ms Mardini and Mr Karakitsos were members of Emergency Response Centre International, a search-and-rescue group operating on Lesbos between 2016 and 2018, and were arrested in February 2018.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/amnesty-international-condemns-farcical-trial-against-24-humanitarian-workers-and-demands

UAE-backed forces raise South Yemen flag as they push east
In recent days, the STC launched a military offensive dubbed “The Promising Future” in Hadhramaut, seizing control of Seiyun, one of the largest cities in thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

FAA launches investigation into US airlines over flight cuts ordered during the shutdown
The FAA warned in letters sent Monday that the airlines could face fines of up to $75,000 for each flight over the mandated reductions, which fluctuated between 3%, 4%, and 6%. The airlines have 30 days to provide documentation showing they complied with the order, the agency said Friday in a statement.
https://apnews.com/article/airlines-compliance-faa-flight-cuts-shutdown-237932ba7053accf04c77c1367666947

DoJ moves to eliminate sexual abuse protections for LGBTQ+ people in prisons
A justice department memo issued on Tuesday said “effective immediately”, prisons and jails will no longer be held responsible for violations of standards meant to shield LGBTQ+ people from harassment, abuse and rape. It also directed inspectors to stop auditing facilities for compliance with those protections. The justice department is in the process of seeking formal updates to the rules, the memo said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/05/doj-prison-lgbtq-sexual-abuse-protections

A nationwide internet age verification plan is sweeping Congress
The new approach to age verification orders mobile app stores to verify users’ ages, then send that information to apps when users download them. The idea has been around for a while, but it was just this year that the first of these laws was passed in Utah, quickly followed by versions in several other states. On Tuesday, it appeared in Congress as part of a package of kids safety legislation as the App Store Accountability Act (ASA), earlier introduced by Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rep. John James (R-MI).
https://www.theverge.com/policy/830877/app-store-age-verification-act-pinterest-endorsement
https://archive.ph/P0VLH

Democrat announces articles of impeachment against Hegseth
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TYBNA

991 - Occupation: Public Figure feat. Seth Harp (12/1/25) (Chapo Trap House)
Author and journalist Seth Harp returns for an interview about the National Guard shooting in D.C. We analyze the accused shooter, his time in covert “Zero Units,” and we also speculate about the ramifications of Pete Hegseth’s double-tap order in the Caribbean. To close things out, Will and Felix talk about Bari Weiss’s plan to return America to the reasonable center and react to the viral Oklahoma University essay on why God made man and woman different.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/991-occupation-public-figure-feat-seth-harp-12125

Starmer’s current chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, served as the head of a machine that targeted media outlets on the left and right, foreshadowing the UK’s crackdown on dissent.
As Keir Starmer rose to power in Britain, the political machine responsible for his rise ran a behind-the-scenes campaign to demonetize the U.S. news outlet Breitbart. The attacks on Breitbart were part of a targeted campaign against media outlets on both the left and right considered hostile to the centrist faction of the Labour Party, according to a trove of documents that expose the operation. Many of the documents were revealed for the first time in my recent book – called “The Fraud: Keir Starmer, Morgan McSweeney and the Crisis of British Democracy” – and are expanded on significantly there. The campaign succeeded in effectively destroying the left-wing British outlet The Canary, which is only now recovering. Breitbart News persists. The project was run through an organization called Stop Funding Fake News (SFFN). SFFN was incubated and resourced by a think-tank called Labour Together under the guise of fighting misinformation and “fake news.” Between 2018 and 2020, the anodyne-seeming think-tank received £739,000 in donations that it failed to report to the UK Electoral Commission, in violation of electoral law. Labour Together was found guilty and fined in September 2021 for the offense. Morgan McSweeney, now Sir Keir Starmer’s chief of staff, was Labour Together’s company secretary during this period. He also listed himself on LinkedIn as Labour Together’s “Managing Director.” In October 2024, the prominent UK journalist Andrew Marr commentedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Why is china a communist country claiming non-chinese territory as its own because it was once conquered by their imperialist predecessor?
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>muh irredentism
Progressive china will cultivate and use those lands better, cope.

I unironicaly think imperialism is based if a socialist country is doing it.

>>2586833
Xi needs to strengthen the firewall

>>2586836
>>2586838
by definition if a country is imperialist its a capitalist country

>>2586840
Lenin was wrong, imperialism is the first stage of capitalism and it is about primitive accumulation.



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Let the ruling Elites LGBT-westoids tremble at an anti-imperialism reckoning .
The non-westoids have nothing to lose but their chains.
They have a world to win.
Anti Imperialists of the world, Unite!
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>>2584839
Nonsense. The material base of sexism is domestic labor and the female labor force participation rate. Unfortunately, there is a much larger need for domestic labor in the periphery and much less demand for labor in general. It's no different than how Gaza has an abysmal female labor participation rate of 20%. This is due to Palestinians being fucking genocided but the result remains. The solution is a planned economy which can drive down managerial overheads and drive up employment rates.

>>2584789
>"LGBT" imperialism
<look inside
>Christian Nationalist White Supremacists

what is this bullshit where people scapegoat teh gayz for imperialism

>>2584811
I made that btw

>I don’t know where the op is from but this type of left-wing-homophobia is common blowback for how the west acts all high and mighty for being so “Progressive” with queer people while exploiting the global south.
it's not blowback since the "west" treating LGBT people with any humanity whatsoever is a very VERY recent development, as is the pinkwashing of NATO. During the cold war, I would argue the imperialist west was just as, or possibly even more 'phobic than the USSR.

>>2584864
>The Ukrainazis killed thousands of ethnic Russians before Russia came to liberate them genocide
Are you referring to the allegations of genocide is Donbas? Because I’m sure that there were tons of massacres of Ethnic Russians and tons of discrimination against them. However there was no genocide and it’s just a made up claim by Putin to justify his imperialist conquest of Ukraine. Russia is not a liberator, there just moving Ukraine from one bad to another, how is bombing apartment buildings and abducting Ukrainian children and putting them in boarding schools where they are forced to only speak Russian “Liberating?”




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I'm presently working on a translation of "Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation" or "Aperçu sur la Formation Historique de la Nation Haïtienne''. This is considered one of the definitive works on Haitian history, written by Haitian communist Étienne Charlier. As far as I'm aware it has never been publicly archived or translated into english before. I might post more sporadically as I go.

Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation
2nd Edition

Editor's Note
Les Éditions DAMI is pleased to present to the public, more than fifty years after the first edition, the re-edition of the book Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation as it was written by Étienne D. Charlier in 1954. This book is an essential work for anyone who wants to understand the historical foundations of the Haitian Nation.
May the youth find answers here to their questions and reflect powerfully on the History of our country.
Our thanks go to Mrs. Ghislaine Rey Charlier, widow of Etienne D. Charlier, and to her sons André and Max, for the confidence shown in Les Éditions DAMI and for all the documents and information provided.
—Les Éditions DAMI Montreal, August 2009

Biography of the Author
Étienne Charlier was born in Aquin on June 12, 1904. Son of Danton Charlier and Gervrine Girault, both originally from l'Anse-à-Veau. Upon the death of his mother in 1906, Étienne was adopted by the couple Numa Cassy, whose wife was born Louise Charlier, who brought him to l'Anse-à-Veau. He remained there until September 1916. His studies, which began at the École Nationale de l'Anse-à-Veau, continued the same year in Port-au-Prince at the Petit Séminaire Collège St-Martial. Equipped with his second part baccalaureate, he entered the Port-au-Prince Law School directed by Dean Léon Nau. He obtained his law degree in 1927. He took an active part in the founding of la Nouvelle Ronde, which he managed after Antonio Vieux until the review ceased publication in April 1926.
He left for the Northern United States in September 1928 where he continued his legal studies at Columbia University. Then he went to Paris (France) in 1929, where he began a Doctorate in Law. He defended his thesis, On the arrangement of the principle of individual Freedom of Labor in French Law on May 30, 1932, at the Faculty of Law in Paris.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2579242
It likely wont be possible, sadly. This work is still-in-print and Charlier's family controls the rights. While it's entirely possible that they'd give the project their blessing, this wouldn't be something I could just take straight to a publisher. My current plan is it archive it on Library Genesis and format a digital version which could be bound from home.

Preface (1954)

Relatively few in number have, concerning the formation of the nation, presented the results of their work, and that work has been fragmentary. But through their work the materiality of the facts is now established, the essential character of the events acquired, barring, as always, a few possible clarifications and details.

It was inevitable that, from these accumulated scattered materials, a general overview would emerge; where the interplay of all these fragments, succeeding one another and clashing according to a rhythm, could be shown to conform to the laws of history which condition the constants of social evolution since the organization of the first societies.

The author of this book devoted himself to this task. Here is the result of enormous labor. So many questions which, until now, remained obscure in their complexity or poorly explained in their causality, despite the efforts of researchers, are treated and analyzed here according to the strictest methods of modern information. The mechanism that was the secret driving force, under a myriad of appearances, whose processes disconcerted the shortsightedness of many commentators, is explained here.

With an unparalleled wealth of detail, colonial society is brought back to life, torn between the demands of a revolutionary period and the imperative of class interests. Hence its inconsistencies, its sycophantic concessions, a seesaw game that is merely the political representation of the contradictions inherent to a political system destined for the worms. Hence the tenacious, fierce struggle of a reactionary bourgeoisie braced in defense of its privileges against the rush of the enslaved masses determined to violently seize the end of their exploitation; against the rise of the freedmen seeking to complete, through the conquest of political rights, the status acquired through the power of money.

The clarity of this critique, sharpened by the objective methods of the laws of science, is manifest in the examination of this Southern War where, alongside a question of epidermal nuance which is certainly not to be minimized, there is inscribed an economic content of capital importance. This refers to the action of the two colonialist powers, the English and the Yankee, trying to secure their interests against the French, as well as the class struggle in Saint-Domingue which had reached a point of exasperation.

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>>2579422
*Lechaud is referring to Toussaint L'Ouverture

Chapter 1.1 - The Conquistadors Found Hispaniola Upon the Ruins of Indigenous Communities

On December 6, 1492, while the natives of Marien(1) were peacefully going about their daily routines, they saw the arrival of three caravels(2) carrying men of an unknown race: it was Christopher Columbus and his companions who, after having discovered San Salvador and Cuba, landed in Haïti, which the admiral designated by the name of Hispaniola or “Little Spain”.

The Cacique of Marien, Guacanagaric, being of a peaceful nature, received the Spaniards with open arms and even granted Columbus a site to build a fort "La Natividad" with the debris of the Santa Maria, which had been shipwrecked. The admiral left a contingent there before departing for Spain.

However, as was to be expected, the Spaniards departed Fort La Natividad expecting to act as masters and lords: they had an easy time with the gentle Guacanagaric but when they moved on to Maguana, in search of gold, they found themselves facing a man of a different caliber: the Cacique Caonabo, of the warrior race of the Caribs.(3) The intrepid Indian chief massacred them all, invaded Marien, and reduced Fort La Natividad to ashes.

Columbus soon returned to Hispaniola, but this time, with the necessary forces for the conquest and military occupation of the country. The invaders founded Isabella, on the northern coast and, starting from this base, invaded the interior of the island. Caonabo and Guarionex, Cacique of Magua, marched against the city but suffered setbacks. Shortly after, thanks to a ruse, Alonso de Ojeda succeeded in seizing Caonabo, still the most formidable enemy of the colonizers. The unfortunate cacique, chained, perished when the boat that was transporting him to Spain sank. The Natives, under the orders of a brother of Caonabo, Manicatex, attempted to avenge their fallen chief; armed simply with arrows, they confronted the Spanish cavalry and muskets at the battle of La Vega Real in 1495, but the outcome of the struggle could not be in doubt. The natives were cut to pieces, devoured by ferocious dogs, and massacred by the thousands. The great, very Christian admiral had no scruples about reducing the vanquished to slavery. In the name of “repartimientos”, each of Columbus's companions received allotments of slaves either to work in the golPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Chapter 1.1 Notes

(1) When it was found by Europeans, the Island, which its inhabitants called Quisqueya, Bohio or Haïti interchangeably, was divided into five caciquats or kingdoms: 1. Marien in the northwest, 2. Magua in the northeast, 3. Maguana in the center, 4. Xaragua in the southwest, and 5. Higüey in the southeast. The caciques were respectively Guacanagaric, Guarionex, Caonabo, Bohéchio, and Cotubanama.

The population, composed of Arawaks (Taínos) who probably came from South America, having conquered the country from the Ciboneys generally reduced to slavery but of whom some groupings perhaps remained more or less autonomous in the extreme tip of the southern peninsula (Guacavarina, that is to say the current Tiburon), was in the Neolithic era with a relatively advanced agriculture since it cultivated most of the plant species that ensure the food supply of the Haitian masses today (see Jacques Roumain, Contribution à l'étude de l'ethnobotanique précolombienne des Grandes Antilles and Michel Aubourg, Mémoire sur les cultures précolombiennes, Ciboney et Taíno. These two works are publications of the Bureau d'Ethnologie de la République d'Haïti, the first from February 1942 and the second from February 1951). This population perhaps amounted to 1 and a half million.

(2) The Niña and the Santa Maria landed at the current Bay of Môle Saint-Nicolas while the Pinta visited ports further east because its commander, Martin Alonse Pinçon, had surreptitiously separated from Columbus after their departure from Cuba on November 21, thinking of being the first to lay hands on the gold mines of Cibao, where natives of Haiti taken from Cuba were leading them (see Father Charlevoix, Histoire de l'Île Espagnole ou St-Domingue, M.D.CC,XXX edition, volume one, p. 90 and following).

(3) The Caribs populated the Lesser Antilles but had often made incursions against the Taíno of Haiti, “especially those of Higüey”: they were of warrior customs.

(4) In his letter to the lord Raphael Sanchez, treasurer of Their Catholic Majesties, Christopher Columbus writes: “As far as I have learned, every man throughout these islands is united to but one wife, with the exception of the kings and princes, who are allowed to have twenty: the women seem to work more than the men. I could not clearly understand whether the people possess any private property, for I pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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