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Apparently folks are still confused about the purpose of sex education. not on here necessarily but like in general

The first and most important component of sex ed is teaching children
a) How to recognize if an adult is sexually abusing you, and
b) What to do if an adult is sexually abusing you.

Comprehensive sex ed includes other topics, including discussion of what changes your body will go through in puberty and how to have safe sex, but those can and usually do come later.

Sex education needs to start as early as possible, because if kids don't start sex ed until age X, then pedophiles know they can more easily get away with abusing kids who are younger than X.

The people most likely to sexually abuse kids are their parents, which is why we need schools, not parents, to provide sex education.  

You likely can't teach a lesson about sexual abuse to a 1-day-old baby, but you absolutely can teach a 5-year-old.  

When you hear policymakers say "kindergarten is too young to get sex education," what they are really saying is that they want to rape kindergartners and not get caught.
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Based China jailing west-poisoned separatists. Hopefully they do it more.

>>2580868
>CIA makes shit up about China
>China based for doing [shit CIA claimed China did]
>overall narrative: China did thing CIA made up about it.

>>2581035
>gets called out for believing what western media says about China
>immediately accuses other anons of this
Also why the fuck would you ever leave China if you've been there, even if it was tourism? The Hong Kong thing was such a contentious issue for you that you happily returned to your unwalkable suburb back in the US? You didn't have any urge to stay whatsoever?
>Assigned Party At Birth

>>2576260
This place and the left is not a good fit for you, may i suggest the church?

>>2581035
>fat american lardass
Gonna stop you right there. Considering you're aware of my other posts on this site, you should be aware that I'm Haitian.
>You are the most arrogant person on this entire forum
Kkkry about it some more kkkracker. I'm glad my contempt can be felt through the computer screen.
>If you had been born in a republican instead of democrat
Lmao people aren't fascists because they're born fascists. They're fascists because of concrete parasitic social and economic relations on a global scale. Relations like those that enable social fascists like you to afford that cute tourist trip to China unlike 99% of the workers of the world.



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I was curious to know what you guys thought about liberalism. Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
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>>2549169
>was to the American Republicanist model in particular.
imho this is also the secret sauce to talking to burgers abt socialism, every critique they've been taught was also something absolute monarchs said about the american revolution(muh huemon nature, republics only work on a small scale, muh democracy equals mob violence,muh divine hierarchy,etc)

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i was researching freemasonry, when i got to the "lansdowne MS" (1560) which is part of the "old charges" of the order (english masonry only officially beginning with the grand lodge in 1717). what struck me is the lexicon highlighted here:
<First, there is no reference of the word ‘Freemason’ or even ‘Free Mason’, only ‘Free born’.  This might suggest Free Mason was not yet in use in England.
https://www.thesquaremagazine.com/mag/article/202101lansdowne-ms/
this is interesting, since it reminds me of john lilburne's notion of an englishman's "freeborn" rights (1641-9). was liberalism a child of arcane masonry (such that later liberal revolutionaries openly adopted the doctrine)?


>>2524222
>Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
What the fuck. Blumpf is just another liberal.

two interesting games that demonstrate jevons' notion of utility maximisation (1869) is "unfair flips" and "a game about digging a hole", where one must "spend money to make money", as it were. thus, buffing the stats of particular attributes increases aggregate productivity. as jevons says, this relates to the division of labour, since increasing the use of labour to different ends causes wealth in general to increase. smith highlights this also. the collaboration of different products into a higher order commodity is spoken of by menger too, as a mode of increasing value; the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. so to say, marginal utility (e.g. exchange-value) decreases as total utility (e.g. use-value) increases. spending leads to lesser costs. bernie sanders has also discussed this "infrastructural" or public provision (what in lockean terms may refer to "trust", the element of liberty as a social contract), in terms of services like healthcare - it is also conceived of by fuller; "a stitch in time saves nine". we can certainly see the concept of a public, or "civil society" within the liberal idea, then.

jevons further stated his support not just for public services but also co-operative ownership of business by workers, which he saw as a form of self-government. another 19th century liberal, john stuart mill, wrote of his "socialist" ideals in his autobiography (sidenote: adam smith claimed that capitalists destroy society by their class interest and that if there was no need for their mastery, things would be better. smith later inspired early socialist thought, from the "ricardians" to proudhon, in a period from 1816-48, later inspiring engels and marx with an "enlightened" political economy, furthered by ricardo). other liberals like murray rothbard (via locke) and ronald reagan similarly expressed their support for public and co-operative ownership (see: "confiscation and the homestead principle", 1969 and "transcript of speech presented at the white house", august 3, 1987):
(i) https://panarchy.org/rothbard/confiscation.html
(ii) https://www.cesj.org/about-cesj-in-brief/history-accomplishments/pres-reagans-speech-on-project-economic-justice/

john maynard keynes iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Imageboards have of course been filled with nazis for a fuck ton of time from even the start, but most people agree it mainly started when moot added /news/ then all the chudcels flooded the rest of the site, then created /pol/ and the rest is history.

With that being said, how do we realistically combat the mass grooming of people into nazism through imageboards? The sharty is becoming the new 8chan but with way more cultural influence on the wider internet and the rest of the population is filled with young children, we have already seen solomon (a mass shooter that was a black man yet he was also a white supremacist with sharty connections) commit a mass shooting. With that being said clearly a lot of these young men are isolated and angry, doxxing random literal WHOS because they are trans, or even doing raids that help the federal government because the site is influenced by glowies. They even raided our very booru 2 days ago, and ILLEGAL CONTENT was posted (this was done by foodist nazis not soyteens but still scary that it’s that prevalent with their raids).

And with the thought on raids we can see some of these young people are being groomed into actual pedophile nazi communities but the sharty staff and wiki are so up their asses that they can’t see they have ideological similarities with the nazi foodists and that’s why they surround them.

They have crushed /leftysoy/ and banned many leftists on their wiki including me, I think this is gonna evolve into something much worst if we don’t do anything.
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>>>>2575374 (You)
>>I’m a satanic front blud albeit

>>2575226
u guys are harmless thats why the right is better at terrorism lol

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>rightist infighting
>this thread for some reason

>>2575382

i thought it was because we didn't had as many CIAuyghurs grooming us since a young age.

>these kids are radicalised, how do we get them to coolndown?
We shouldn't, deradicalisation means turning somebody into a fucking lib. We need them to become communist, not centrist mopey libs.



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Why didn‘t the British colonize North America? Why did they leave such vast lands to a bunch of random persecuted people fleeing to America?

>Well they lost the war again them

Okay, but Great Britain didn‘t seem as interested in colonizing America anyways which is the point of my question.
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>>2579139
Security economics and the difficulties of keeping control over distant lands. The UK had a global empire of which the UK was just one bit, so it was more cost effective to try to make treaties with natives. The independent US on the other hand faced a different calculus: there was no risk that the army would be tied down fighting Indians while France attacked their European heartlands.

>>2579698
"Of which the UK was just one bit" > "of which the US was just one bit"

the british metropole probably didnt have a huge material interest in settler-colonialism
even in proto-canada they didnt rely only on british settlers, and even then i think most of the settler-colonialism happened when proto-canada became more autonomous
and like the other replies said, they had to compete with the spanish and french colonial empires

>>2580798
Using slave labor is more profitable then random peasants forming settlements in the wilderness where their is no economic activity.




 

Any comrades from Utah here?

How do we fix this beyond fucked up state?

The LDS church runs everything here. Nearly every single little detail of the state’s culture is dictated by Mormonism. Mormon temples are the largest buildings in every city and town. Mormon bookstores are more numerous than most other stores, and old school soda shops are more numerous than cafes (Mormons prohibit coffee and tea but allow caffeinated soda for some reason). Multiple buildings, streets, and businesses are named after Mormon things (e.g. “Cumorrah Avenue”). Multi-level marketing companies are everywhere and sponsor things like stadiums (MLM companies are littered with Mormon moms).

The LDS church is basically run like a massive corporation. They are very good at missionizing and making new converts, plus Mormons tend to get married young and have bucketloads of kids. The average Mormon family has between 4-7 children. The point is, the LDS church is highly reactionary and rules over Utah with an iron fist, yet there is almost no internal resistance to it. “Utah” basically is the LDS church. And that’s not even mentioning the entire settler-colonial history of the church either, the mass slaughter of the indigenous that Mormons participated in to create the state of Utah and such.

With that said, how do we deal with this state’s politics if we are socialists living in it? There’s no way someone like AOC or Mamdani or any DSA candidate could ever win here. If there was ever a socialist candidate, they’d either have to ensure the Utah public that they’re a “good Mormon” (which would mean throwing away their principles and participating in a reactionary, settler-colonial theology) or seek to dismantle Utah culture outright by going against the grip of the LDS church, which would be political suicide.

I’m sorry, but I wish this fucking state didn’t exist. Trying to organize anything leftist here feels like a lost cause.
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>>2570365
i've been to cedar and ogden but i don't know a lot; just that cedar is very much centered around its stageplay industry and ogden i've only really passed through going to Eden. Both of them seem a lot more normal than the rest of the state but that might just be from an outside perspective. Cedar seems a little bit like Moab in the sense that there are more laid back and accepting people than elsewhere.

There's also places in the middle of nowhere like nephi or mona that seem to have the same kind of evangelical, dying-town culture as the other midwest states.

>>2570432
Hell if i know lmao, it seems pretty far out of our control unless the church fucks up and disillusions people somehow

>>2570524
So, defeatism?

Joe Hill didn't even want his ashes sent to Utah. Shithole state.

Literally move out and come back as part of Red Army, then send them all to religger labor camps until they change or get worked to death or whatever.



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Why do people use the industrialization and subsequent rise of the standard of living in Russia and China as proof of the success of socialism when neither countries were and are socialist. Socialism being defined as worker ownership of the means of production, as Marx defined, as opposed to state ownership and in the case of modern China with large parts of the economy privately owned. The success for these two countries is a testament to there size, abundance of resources and people. Germany was afraid of pre-revoultionary Russia and predicted by 1917 they would be no match for its growing might. China before the Second Sino-Japanese war was a lot more industrialized than people usually give it credit for, with most of its industrial base being destroyed by the war. And too give examples of two capitalist countries that being the United States and Germany. Both of them were able to surpass the United Kingdom due there larger access to resources and people. And not to mention the increased development of technology allowing industrializeing nations to catch up faster to their established piers. What allowed these countries to industrialize in the first place is a stable government and there ability to fight off foreign threats, which was not the case for Imperial Russia, Qing China and the ROC.
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>>2577979
You didn't watch the video did you? And China has still has capital accumulation hell the soviets didn't need to do that, at least under stalin. And neither countries were and are 'proletariat' run, they are party run by the top of the party.

>>2580619

China will run into the same troubles as the US with unemployment and overproduction

I cannot see the CCP giving up state power

>>2580759
I've already watched it years ago, and he's wrong on so many points. He completely misrepresents Marx and completely misreads the Paris Commune. Also, I already told you that Marx distinguishes a lower phase and a higher phase. Only the final phase is stateless.

>>2580888
>he's wrong on so many points. He completely misrepresents Marx and completely misreads the Paris Commune.
how so?
>Also, I already told you that Marx distinguishes a lower phase and a higher phase.
Hes says this in the video.
>Only the final phase is stateless.
its not the initial phase is also stateless, only under the dictatorship of the proletariat does the state exist.

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>>2580871
that's in the higher phase of communism. we're a long ways from that. that's when the state withers away because it becomes irrelevant. the lower phase is about the ego mediating the id. china can do that. meanwhile, video is an american realizing capitalist states have no ego, only id.



 

I don't see any other threads/generals about Colombia so im making thia thread
Colombia has been in class conlict since the 60's, the ELN is one of the most major insurgent groups and the RARC was the biggest until it was disbanded in 2016, although many RARC members rejected this and still fight on. Cartels and fascists are also fighting both against the goverment and ELN.
Colombia also recently elected a left-wing president in 2022 and the leading party is in a coaltion with the communist party, ALTHOUGH the goverment is selling out to the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Army_(Colombia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARC_dissidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_conflict

>>2580211
Fuck you fake ancom shilling for "communist presidents" and reactionary theology.

>>2580223
how did OP shill anything

>>2580223
I never said he was a communist president, I said the party he is in is in a coalition with the communist party. I don’t support any state especially not the Colombian and I feel like I make that pretty clear



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Can I still be a communist if I think transhumanists could probably learn to accept their birth sex and are getting conned into mutilating themselves to pad big pharma and the service economy? I don't want to do a holocaust about it I swear.
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>>2581065
*the failings of

transhumanists

>OP starts by vagueposting, promises they don't want to do a holocaust about it
>slowly drifts towards arguing his transphobic case more and more, less and less emphasis on his purported socialist/communist sympathies.
>claims he's going to "thread the needle" on "false consciousness convenient to capital", made no engagement whatsoever with the point that post-2024, capital is unambiguously moving in the other direction. despite not engaging here, is clearly angling for an argument because what he really wants to do is argue about transgenderism rather than talk about communism.
The Joanna Cherry of Anonymous. Total >>2580443 vindication.

>>2581087
It has been barely ONE SINGULAR YEAR niqqa the pendulum can easily swing the other way again. Acting like you won't go full throttle on transhumanism again in three years when America and her *toys* paint themselves blue. Acting like your whole leftoid ass isn't hanging out. FULL. BREAK.

but yeah maybe I'm being too singularly obsessed rn. still kys tho

>>2581137
watch total war on south america be declared tomorrow keeeeeeeeekkkkkkk

>can i be a communist if [american retardbabble]
No. Look forward to getting raped by transfolx from the 7th Neo Red Guards division. Hope this helps



 

What is the point of horror when real life is infinitely more horrifying? Your average horror film is like watching the Teletubbies compared to a Mexican cartel torture/execution video. And I don't mean just the violence and suffering, I mean the casualness and banality. Or, to use another example, picture the scene of Roman mining slaves being literally worked to death because the profits of the mines were so large that human life became not worth maintaining, a level of greed that is perhaps unmatched even today.

Was horror unironically invented by sheltered people? What is the analysis?
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AAAAHHHHH

Yeah bro going to work is fucking scary
Literal shivers down my spine

>>2579304
Horror’s point isn’t to be scarier than reality, it’s to let you safely feel the thrill of fear for a few hours because nobody wants to work in a fucking slave mine or have soldiers rape and murder their family just to feel scared


>>2579304
What's the point of any art or fiction when reality exists anon?
It is entertainment, it is escapism. Story telling has been a core part of human socialisation since the stone age.
Can you even begin to imagine a world where we're limited to only discussing or portraying the real world? It's not psychologically healthy to only think on heavy topics that happen in reality. But fiction can give us an adrenaline rush without the risk of such trauma.



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Here is my thesis

When the USSR collapsed, its former territory and the entire former Warsaw Pact, treacherous scum that they were, should have been nuked. We live in a time where we still suffer the consequences of Soviet mercy. The USSR left our world, and in its wake was left dozens of fascist nations with hundreds of millions of Nazis buried within. The Soviet Union assumed 50 years of hegemonic rule wiped out the scourge that was hitlerism in the region but they failed; and Eastern E*roids seem beyond redemption. As such, lay waste to everything between Berlin and Moscow; nuke every square inch of it, luckily they have no real means to retaliate unlike the nuclear armed West. Modern hitlerism can be stopped in the here and now!

>>2579984
soviet union state welfare didn't do shit lmao

>>2579984
>Soviet mercy
lol lmao even

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>>2579984
EUchads gotchu covered

Its because the Slavs are ethnically reactionary. Specifically the Poles. The Oder-Neisse line was perhaps the greatest mistake of Stalin-era policy. All of Poland should have been partitioned between Belarus and Germany.

>>2579984
I warned you about nationalism bro but you didnt listen.
<what? you want me to support nationalist movements across the planet because anti-imperialism?
No thats exactly the opposite of what I said.
<got it. I will now dedicate yearsof my life shilling online for nationalism because its literally anti-imperialism



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