/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2591600
You can just say poor people. They aren't out there beating and killing the OJ Simpsons of the world. Reminder that idpol minded Americans celebrated his acquittal at the time. I spoke to an old black guy about it once, he said he and his friends were ecstatic that a rich black guy could get away with the same shit as a rich white man. He said even back then he thought he did it though.

>>2577824
If there's one thing AES countries are known for, it's lax policing

>>2592085
They don't kill people like here. Most of them are unarmed.

>>2577848
>The cops, especially in America, are armed with military surplus
This needs to be emphasized a lot more when we're discussing police.
The police didn't become hyper-militarized by accident. They are getting surplus directly FROM the military, and of course they're going to find every excuse to use it. It's directly tied into the military industrial complex.

>>2578875
This is such a dumb and reductive way of looking at things.
Obviously the police exist as they are, not in a hypothetical communist future, and the police exist the way they are because of capitalism, and the police are one of the major barriers protecting capitalism. The idea that you could just keep them as-is even under a DotP is fantasy.

>>2592243
I think it stands to reason that a united Europe would be more capable of asserting itself as an independent power than a divided one. Even if the EU is lacking the will to do so, it would inevitably have a greater capacity for it than any individual European state. If America wants to more aggressively dominate Europe and ensure its perpetual subordination then breaking up the EU is perfectly rational.

>>2591958
>extractivist
You can't use a term from "Why Nations Fail", a piece of moronic bourgeois propaganda, and not be called a liberal and a moron. "Extractive institutions" are a thing as opposed to "inclusive institutions" that are supposedly more innovative because they protect property rights and have a diverse elite as well as a powerful middle class. If you are a materialist, you want to crush anyone who unironically thinks like this. Thankfully, capitalism itself is crushing you. You deserve it and it will get worse.

>>2592080
>most of Manchukuo industry
I kinda doubt that, but anyway the important part was getting the territory and all the weapons of an entire army

>>2590563
Autismo larpuighurs will do absolutely anything to frame reading and posting as revolutionary acts. That is all that any of this "support" or "opposition" is. At most you send a delegation and they do what? Have a photo op with the Houthis? Wow, really changing the world. Until Communists have state power it's retarded to talk about supporting or opposing anything on the other side of the planet.

>>2590649
Third worldist!!
Campist!!
Tankie!!
Authoritarian!!
Stalinist!!
Commie!!

>>2591705
Your "I'm above it all, don't have opinions on anything" stance is the most retarded of all"

>>2591741
pretty much

When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninism, something to keep in mind

>>2586159
>Make unsubstantiated claims
>Prefix them with "objectively" or "material"
That's pretty much the crux of what passes for argumentation or analysis on here.

It's a goddamn shame because the whole point of dialectical materialism is to avoid the kind of vibes based assertions of shit like "The Protestant Work Ethic" and grounding political thought in reality. Instead it's used by a few as window dressing for the same vibe based assumptions.

>>2586166
>>2586167
Y'know what fucking blows my mind is the ACP will make bizarre exclamations
>"Gays are naturally imperialist"
>"America is some authoritarian collectivist Eurasianist state"
They'll proclaim themselves "MAGA Communists" and you'll get absolutely childish people here saying "Erm, they're objectively to the left of the CPUSA".

I think this boils down to people not even in leftist orgs trying to dictate what the wider movement "should look like"

>>2586172
It like… HAS to be solely keyboard warrior shit, right? How much of this even happens irl? Is this just another permutation of the "marketplace of ideas"?

>>2586174
Yknow I think an awful lot about what an older comrade once told me, which amounted to: "The most radical thing you can say doesn't necessarily mean the most radical thing you can do.." I'd say people who aren't in parties but consider themselves "Marxist-Leninists" are attracted more to the aesthetic of politics than actual politics.

And the ACP is a great source of aesthetics for them, they're throwing their logo on everything, they're waving their flags around, its a full social media blitz. Most importantly they always swagger about like they're "winning" and act like every tiny advance is a huge momentum shifting victory.

It's great for people who are more concerned with vibes I'd say.

>>2586100
cheers

They’re all five fuck up cult that deserve to be bashed in their skull

Tybna 🥰

why are cambodia and thailand fighting?

Thanks News Anon

>>US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
nothing will happen..

>>2591413
this chapo ep specifically getting the newsanon bump is very funny and cool lol. TYBNA

>>2590804
Margaret was a Marxist, she built the productive forces with reform and opening up while preventing the Irish glowies to secede just like Xi did with the uygurs

>>2590840
Trvke so bright it gave me stage 4 cancer from the radiation

>>2590840
>built the productive forces
if by productive forces you mean sports centres for stockbrokers

>>2590804
Under the Supreme Leadership of Comrade Kim Ju-Ae

>>2511880
And they have Gundams too, right? Just like in your animes.

Down with the Silicon Valley billionaires. California has the ultimate potential yet we are being sucked dry both figuratively and literally. Massive farming corporations drain our natural water reserves while techbros fuck over our state over and over again.

>another usapol
this is why I don't support secessionists.

>>2586948
>>2590181
too Woke for his own good

>>2586948
I guess they all deserve to live in the absolute shithole Yugoslavia has turned into.

>>2586993
>im and Stalin should have just made up and been friends.
two napoleons (i don't mean this in a bad way btw) could never be friends lmao

>>2588828
The Balkan Peninsula, approximately the size of Germany but with only two-thirds of its population, is carved up into numerous independent states. In these tiny states, each possessing its own army, currency, and customs system, or belonging to this or that economic union or military alliance, live numerous nations and peoples, shattered into separate fragments. The borders between these dwarf states were not drawn in accordance with ethnic realities or national needs, but are the result of wars, diplomatic intrigues, and imperialist interests. The Great Powers have always had a direct interest in pitting the Balkan nations and states against one another, only to subject them to their own economic and political influence once they have mutually weakened themselves.

The petty dynasties of political compradors ruling these 'fragments' of the Balkan Peninsula have served, and continue to serve, as levers for European diplomatic intrigues. This entire mechanism, founded on violence and treachery, constitutes an immense burden that suffocates the Balkan nations and stifles their economic and cultural development. The peninsula, richly endowed by nature, is senselessly partitioned; people and goods constantly run up against the barbed wire of state borders. This slicing of nations and states into numerous strips prevents the formation of a unified Balkan economic space, which could serve as the foundation for a great expansion of industry and culture. On top of everything, there is debilitating nationalism, created to maintain division and generating the danger of wars fatal to the peninsula's progress.

The only way out of this national and state chaos is the unification of all the peoples of the peninsula into a single economic and political entity, based on the national autonomy of its constituent parts. Only within the framework of a unified Balkan state can an individual people connect into a single cultural community while enjoying the benefits of a common economic union. Only united Balkan nations can truly stand up to the predatory aspirations of European imperialism.

The state unity of the Balkans can be achieved in two ways: from above, through the expansion of the European Union, neoliberalism, and capitalism—this is the path of oppressing weak nations, a path that consolidates imperialism and militarism; or from bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2586948
Based. He's exactly what most socialists should strive to achieve. His worker's self management objectively worked great and produced one of the "best" economies in the block in terms of consumers goods and quality of life.
The goal of a federated country with socialist self-management and macro-economic planning is probably the most viable path that we should aspire for

>but muh decline & unemployment
The decline and unemployment were initiated by the Party. In essence, the party would subsidize failing companies and incentivize them to hire workers even when they didn't do anything. This caused massive debt that the party couldn't fund and high taxation within the most productive republics, which eventually enflamed the nationalist tendencies.
Unemployment, which was pictured as an ontologic problem, wasn't as endemic as people tend to think. Slovenia, which was the most succesful republic, never had above 4% unemployment iirc. A competitive market alongside state-owned companies directing the economy could've guaranteed low unemployment for everyone.

>>2586993
Iirc Stalin got mad that he didn't get to manage and integrate Yugoslavia into his sphere of direct influence

>>2587150
>Worker co-operatives are a reactionary step backwards
Anon you can't have any more "workers' control" than with self management

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>>2583110
I bet that never gets changed.

>>2584182
Chyna collapse(TM) is copyrighted. expect a lawsuit for using the those words too loosely.

>>2584375
Also in the same polls have the most positive reception to "socialism" and the highest group to oppose War with Venezuela. It is less a moderate group but more that the bloc chooses moderate candidates.

Man US tech is now just a completely anti-social industry. None of these companies are even attempting to make a product that’s good for society, or even community, at this point. The goal seems to be some completely autistic culture of people with locked in syndrome who can’t even think, can’t hold a conversation, can make a meal, can’t even function.

>>2590970
>bumping a dead thread to make a casual observation to nobody in particulary
>apparently thinks "autism" means total lack of any functionality like RFK
sheesh

>>2590730
of course, but it won't happen because it's just another ploy to get the US to commit to go to war with Russia on Ukraine's behalf. the much better solution is for Ukraine to lose and Zelensky to be executed.

A nazi-with-liberal-charactistics governments being replaced with a neutered-liberal government is still progress and it represents a true end of the war.

>>2590730
It won’t happen, Zelensky is not “ready” for an election, he commits unironic terrorist attacks at the mere mention of diplomacy. Because while long lasting peace is unlikely to be found in the negotiation room, eventually Russia’s refusal to acknowledge Zelensky’s authority to sign papers will very likely result in the west holding an election in Ukraine to select someone who technically would have the authority. It goes without saying that Zelensky is very unlikely to be that select and also unlikely he remains a free man in that eventuality.

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>>2590630
He's not wrong