The far more important questions imo is what happens the day after? This isn't backwards shithole russia in 1917, its no longer enough to seize the telegraph station with some red sailors and the government is yours. Even the bolsheviks in trying to command a far more primitive and less complex state and economy were forced to employ countless tsarist officers and bourgeois experts to achieve anything.
Establishing a DotP and trying build socialism in today's world which certainly provides us with sufficiently developed productive forces, the means of production are here, capitalism's tendency to produce state capitalist monopoly and great standardised infrastructures that Lenin raved about has given us everything we need materially to establish socialism, but we have not the slightest idea how to manage any of it. Do you think that your local communist party, be they an old 'national' communist party or a revolutionary sect of any tendency, if put in charge of the state tomorrow would know the first thing to do with it? Would anyone on /leftypol/?
Of course not, knowing the most fervent self-proclaimed revolutionary communists around, faced with the enormity of the real material work of building socialism they would immediately set about ordering as many executions as possible in the vain hope that blind terror will save them from the consequences of their unpreparedness.
There is a vast public-private bureacracy and managerial strata which runs all the institutions, infrastructure and plans and organises modern society and unless we are ready to near seamlessly replace them at a moments notice (or ready to compromise with them and bring them onside whatever that may mean for the course of our 'revolution') you can kiss any hope for socialism goodbye.
The only solid argument for 'dengism' (and one self-proclaimed dengists and assorted china-shills never bring up) is that china and the CPC are the only ones doing what i think is necessary to build socialism today, which is building *actual* dual power (not mutual aid larp), that is having the party be part of every major enterprise, at every level, forming a sort of shadow cabinet for the whole economy, that will (one hopes) be ready at the crucial moment to step in and seamlessly takeover.
So what does this mean for prospects for revolution outside china (and underdeveloped countries in africa where a bolshevik style coup could still work, maybe), does it mean you should as a co
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