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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Outta Ammo Edition



OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2881511
>I'm tired of this meme that Democrats and Republicans are the same
That’s not a meme
>The Democrats are standard neoliberal fare
I don’t think you understand what goes into standard neoliberal fare for you to say that.
>Republicans are straight up a neo-fascist party
And so are the Democrats.
>They are both bad but one is obviously worse than the other.
They both worked hand in hand to make the we all have to live in.

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>>2881500
Exile people for "unamerican thought"s is the logical conclusion

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>>2880896
>one day he was being lazy and the manager told him off. then he went wide eyed and said what we needed was another world war to cleanse everything.
I'd unironically love to see these people actually fight in a war. If he can't even handle a McJob, just imagine how he'll handle being shot at.



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Aoun’s Ankara visit seeks clarity in Lebanon-Turkey relationship
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun is set to visit Ankara on Thursday for talks with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in a one-day trip aimed at clarifying an established but increasingly ambiguous relationship between the two countries. Aoun will travel with a small delegation of presidential advisers, without any ministers, and no bilateral treaties are expected to be signed during the visit.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/aouns-ankara-visit-seeks-clarity-lebanon-turkey-relationship

Israel releases two Syrian men after more than a year in detention
The two men were identified by the Syrian news outlet Enab Baladi as Hossam Al-Safadi, from the town of Beit Jin in western Rif Dimashq province, and Marwan Al-Karyan, from Suwaysah in Quneitra province. Their release follows several others in recent days. According to Enab Baladi, five Syrian detainees have been freed over the past week, with one released on Tuesday and two more on 23 July.
https://www.newarab.com/news/two-syrians-freed-after-more-year-israeli-detention

Hamas reaches Gaza disarmament agreement with Board of Peace
Al Jazeera has received a copy of Thursday’s agreement, which stipulates that the precise disarmament roadmap must be prepared within 14 days, with possible extensions subject to the approval of an international verification body, and the agreement of all parties. “These negotiations were difficult and hard, and we tried to reach the best possible formula that was achievable,” Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s negotiating delegation, told Al Jazeera.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/30/trump-says-board-of-peace-reaches-agreement-on-disarmament-of-hamas-in-gaza
https://archive.ph/UWfEd

El Burhan visits newly captured North Kordofan towns
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U.S. investigating whether Iran was behind cyberattack on Minnesota water systems
Malicious cyber activity affected technology at more than 30 community water systems across Minnesota this week, forcing some utilities to switch to manual operations as state and federal authorities dig into who is behind the attack, CBS News has learned.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-investigating-iran-cyberattack-minnesota-water-systems/

US cites ‘unauthorized travel’ to end DACA status for a mother of 3 deported to Mexico
A Texas mother deported to Mexico despite having legal permission to stay in the U.S. after arriving as a child has filed a lawsuit against the federal government after it notified her it would be terminating her permission because of “unauthorized travel” stemming from her deportation.
https://apnews.com/article/daca-immigration-texas-uscis-09071c1707e6e1d385ca503c9c75bc6f

Data Centers Divide Democrats in Michigan Primary
This growing opposition has forced Michigan’s elected officials to reconsider the wisdom of the state’s 2024 decision to hand out tax breaks to data center constructors. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist and former Wayne County public health official running in the August 4 Democratic primary for U.S. Senate, told Barn Raiser that the corporations building data centers aren’t straightforward about their development plans.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/data-centers-michigan-democrats-primary-el-sayed-stevens

Seattle police chief resigns under pressure from mayor over response to festival shooting
Mayor Katie Wilson’s announcement followed hours of speculation about whether Police Chief Shon Barnes would step down, as some of his supporters said he had rebuffed Wilson’s request to resign. Wilson said she was appointing Deputy Chief Andre Sayles, a law enforcement veteran with more than two decades of experience, as interim chief. Barnes told The Seattle Times earlier ThurPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The Right vs. the Right: Conservative “Liberals” in the Age of Trump
Before the last presidential election, Adolph Reed Jr. argued that “electoral politics has captured too much of the political imagination of the American left—or, at least, of those occupying the cultural space that a left would if there were one in this country.” Reed lamented the culturally dominant “sensibility that approaches politics as largely performative, a theater for the expression of righteousness, or bearing witness for justice and against injustice.” As many radicals long predicted, this approach to politics has handed the whole of the national political conversation to the right, and this development will plague American society long after Trump is a memory. We’ve reached a point where Bill Kristol can be a featured speaker at a “liberal” conference. It’s hard, in this context, to know which way is up, yet we can see clearly that all ways now point rightward. Kristol is far from alone; this cottage industry includes a who’s who of bloody-handed, Bush-era conservatives who now pretend to care about the rule of law, when their whole careers were spent writing thin apologies for the many constitutional violations of the post-9/11 years. We would not be in this moment with MAGA lawlessness and authoritarianism were it not for the people behind The Bulwark, the Lincoln Project, and the various other groups and outlets that have emerged on the right since Trump.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2026/07/30/the-right-vs-the-right-conservative-liberals-in-the-age-of-trump/

Power beneath the surface: Mining, politics and the Marcos dev’t agenda
For Indigenous peoples in Kasibu, Nueva Vizcaya, there is no justice in Ferdinand Marcos Jr.’s ‘just’ energy transition. Growing up in the fertile rice fields of the province, Bugkalot-Ilongot resident Zesirie Enggo chose to till the same land that had sustained generations of their community. On sunny days before, she recalled, a single hectare of their rice field could yield up to 100 sacks of palay. Yet, as several mining corporations — FCF Minerals Corporation, Oceana Gold Philippines Inc. and now North Luzon Mineral Resources Corporation (NLMRC) — take interest in the richness of their mountains and soil, their livPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

A crowdfunding campaign has been launched on FireFund by a group describing itself as an anti-imperialist organization operating in Brazil. The campaign states that it seeks financial support to expand its activities and presents its political views on U.S. foreign policy, Zionism, and Latin American politics.

According to the campaign, the organizers claim responsibility for previous acts of vandalism targeting replicas of the Statue of Liberty associated with the Brazilian retail chain Havan. They also discuss their political ideology, their participation in international anti-imperialist networks, and their long-term vision for a broader movement in Latin America.

The campaign has generated attention because of both its political message and the controversial nature of the actions it describes. Supporters may view it as an example of radical anti-imperialist activism, while critics argue that the tactics it endorses involve criminal conduct and are incompatible with democratic political engagement.

Readers interested in political movements, direct action, and contemporary debates about anti-imperialism may find the campaign noteworthy as an example of current radical political organizing, regardless of whether they agree with its goals or methods.

Support: https://www.firefund.net/antimperialista

>YEAH WE ARE FIGHTING IMPERIALISM!
>GIVE ME MONEY BTW

>>2881212
Yes anon. We all read the OP.

>>2881217
Those 2500 euro are surely going to overthrow the American Government

>According to the campaign, the organizers claim responsibility for previous acts of vandalism targeting replicas of the Statue of Liberty associated with the Brazilian retail chain Havan.
We did it boys, we have defeated imperialism



 

>Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
>proud hon
What's up with the name? Was the founder of anarchism and prominent antisemite a non-passing, but confident transgender woman?
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>>2881022
He was an anti semite?
Maybe I should actually read him

>>2881037
Yeah as much as Bakunin gets flack for his antisemitism, which was mostly limited to a few outbursts triggered by Marx and friends outmaneuvering him, Proudhon was a lot worse about it

>>2881049
Any particular texts highlighting this?

Still crazy to me this uygha was like praised during marxs time and is now a skidmark of history.
Shit this uygha is probably Hasan of his day

It's pronounced proo-dohn



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The following analysis of structural coercion and surplus extraction holds entirely true even if the classical Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is mathematically false. Whether the ultimate price of a commodity is determined by socially necessary labor time or subjective marginal utility, the physical reality of the power dynamic remains unchanged. Surplus extraction is a function of material leverage, not the metaphysical origin of economic value.

1. Ownership is a Survival Bottleneck
<The capitalist does not participate in value creation merely through ownership; they control a physical bottleneck. They gatekeep the tools, infrastructure, and resources required to produce a livelihood. Because the owning class has historically enclosed the means of production as private property, the worker cannot survive independently. They are physically forced to approach the capitalist to secure the means of their own survival.

2. The Contract is Structural Extortion
<Because the worker's alternative to employment is homelessness and starvation (structural coercion), the negotiation is absolutely asymmetrical. The capitalist dictates the terms: "I will allow you access to my tools to earn your survival, but only if you surrender a significant portion of the value you generate to me." The worker must comply. This is not a voluntary transaction; it is extortion backed by biological necessity.

3. Surplus is a "Survival Tax
<Regardless of how prices are set on the market, the mathematical difference between the revenue the worker's output generates and the wage they receive is siphoned by the owner. This surplus is not a legitimate reward for "time preference" or "risk," as mainstream economics insists. It is a survival tax, a toll the worker pays for the right to remain alive. The capitalist can collect this tax exclusively because state violence (police and property laws) protects their monopoly over the means of production.

Materialist Conclusion
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>>2879582
>ultra
>labor power
i'm not an ultra and didn't mention labor power. as for the pic I am just retarded and copied the wrong thing from the booru. I meant to post this. I was commenting marginal utility

>>2879594
Oh, well, you should know that the idea that socialism is when every workers directly receives back the "value of their labor" is a proudhonist idea, and marx critiqued it himself

Workers sell thwir labor power, not labor, meaning they sell their potential to be performing any kind of labor. And the problem with capitalism is not merely that the capitalist skims off the top, but that this potentiality is subordinated to the irrational goal of reproducing capital itself, rather than anything else we could be doing

Thus the point is not that workers should "own the fruits of their labor" like some pwtty bourg producer.
When you expend labor it has already entered the sphere of social/common wealth, to say that you "ought to" own some part of it, your individual contribution, as an individual, is still liberalism. The point is to rationally organize the production process, politically.

the point of Das Kaptal is that it's a critique of political economy baka OP

>>2879595
So once again the point is to hope the ones in charge of "rationalizing" production don't end up giving themselves any advantage ?

>>2879595
I think you make a good point, but then it's hard to imagine anyone (save a handful of technocrats) really being an enthusiast for this. Many of the most enjoyable parts of capitalism are irrationalities in the production process, while many of the most dire parts are in fact rational efficiency savings. (e.g. that you can make a living drawing furry porn is "irrational" but good work if you can get it, while taylorism is so miserable that capitalists had to project it onto communism. and, tbf, AES states did embrace it.)

While theoretically one can imagine a world where we organise things so efficiently and so rationally that we only have to work a few hours a week, I think this is over-optimistic when one focuses on efficiency. We already live in a world where we could work but a few hours a week - if we'd accept being poorer in consequence. We can always work harder to be richer, so the most rational way to organise the production process can always appear to be an intensified version of the status quo…



 

>Never become the leader of any socialist country

>Fucking die


>Commies keep denying your word for decades


>A century later your writings becomes fundamental in modern Marxist thought


Ts is where China got their "do nothing, win" strategy from
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>>2881045
>Yes, that's why barely any were actually purged.

3 out of 5 of the Marshalls of the Soviet Union were purged (Tukhachevsky,Blyukher,Yegorov)

>Only the schizo freaks like Tukhachevsky were shot.


He "used to" believe in slavic mythology, who he later dismissed as his "embarrassing, childish past". He was well integrated in the communist military leadership. His last notable "schizo freak" action was petitioning Slavic Paganism to be the state-religion of the Union in the early phase.
He was an exceptionally gifted commander, who would efficiently manage numerous civil war fronts, revolts & would led the Red Army forces to the Warsaw with fewer army strength. (Which would be divided due to disagreements between Stalin/Budyonny & Tukhachevsky and fail in the assault)

Never forget that the nazis actively forged documents about "his ties with the SS" or something, and they were the most pleased after his tragic purge. (The papers obtained from nazis weren't used in his persecution either…)

Vasily Blyukher was the Soviet General who would oversee & plan the operational depth of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Expedition

All of the purged Soviet generals had more comprehensive theories and understanding of modern warfare and military tactics, who would actually demonstrate it.
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>>2881069
>He was an exceptionally gifted commander
You have to understand what that means, cause in 100% cases that means someone like >>2881068

>>2880777
Why Stalin killed Bukharin?

why stalin kill bukharin

>>2880994
>the mass slaughter of Ukrainians and Balts
Nevee happened



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>PT (Worker's Party)
The current ruling party. Centre-left. Popular with teachers.
>PL (Liberal Party)
The main opposition party. Far-right. Popular with baby boomers.
>Novo (New)
Libertarian. Popular with rich people.
>PSOL (Socialism and Liberty Party)
Left-wing with a focus on social issues like feminism and LGBT rights. Popular with young women.
>Missão (Mission)
Alt-right. Popular with young men (mostly on the internet).
>NR (New Resistance)
Nazbol. Popular with… nobody, they're not even a real party.
>PCB (Brazilian Communist Party)
Far-left, not to be confused with PCdoB (Communist Party of Brazil) which split from it and is more reformist. Popular with old communists.
>PSDB (Brazilian Social Democracy Party)
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>PL
>far-right
Só na sua cabeça.

>>2879465
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Brazil,_2006)
>The Liberal Party (Portuguese: Partido Liberal, PL) is a right-wing[9] to far-right[10] political party in Brazil.

>>2879472
>I-it's on Wikipedia so it's true!

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>>2879476
You want primary sources?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Brazil,_2006)#cite_note-farright-10
>"Bolsonaro party challenges Brazil election result". BBC News. 23 November 2022. Retrieved 6 February 2025. The far-right party of Brazil's outgoing president, Jair Bolsonaro, has challenged some votes in October's election that saw him lose narrowly to leftist Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
>Harris, Bryan (24 September 2023). "Brazil's conservative carnival tries to put on brave face in era of resurgent left". Financial Times. Retrieved 6 February 2025. "Lula's government is marked by hatred, resentment and revenge," said Julia Zanatta, a federal lawmaker with Bolsonaro's increasingly far-right Liberal party.
>Venugopalan, Murali; Venugopalan, Johanna; Venugopalan, Mundiyath (26 May 2023). One Nice Guy Not so Nice: Joe Biden's Ineptitude. AuthorHouse. ISBN 979-8-8230-0783-2. Seventy-seven old former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva from the left-wing Workers' Party beat sixty-seven year old President Jair Bolsonaro from the far-right Liberal Party by five percentage points in the first round, four weeks ago.
>Munk, Tine; Kennedy, Morag (3 September 2024). Victimisation in the Digital Age: An Online/Offline Continuum Approach. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 978-1-040-13048-3. The legal actions were initiated by the Liberal Party, a far-right group that supported the establishment of Jair Bolsonaro's government.
>Mukherjee, Hoimi (1 June 2023). "Brazil's Emergence in the United States' 'Backyard': Domestic Leadership and Systemic Status". Jadavpur Journal of International Relations. 27 (1): 7–32. doi:10.1177/09735984231161723. ISSN 0973-5984. Recent disclosure shed light on the role played by the United States and a section of anti-Lula elites in Lula's controversial arrest and the rise of Bolsonaro of the far-right Liberal Party (Fishman et al. 2020; Fox 2022).

Does the BBC (which is United Kingdom state media) and Financial Times have a “left-wing bias” too?

>Popular with NPCs
Nem com esses. O MDB só ganha votos de gente disposta a eleger os coronéis locais ou os candidatos randolas do bairro (cujos votos também vão para o coronel local) sem sequer olhar para a legenda.



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The most evil company in the world is up to something sinister… Again…

What could they possibly be up to? Why does Google need to fold proteins? Why did Google want to release a middle eastern super disease inside countless mosquitos in all western countries when mosquitos are known to kill the most humans globally out of all diseases?

They solved protein folding because they realized they could easily do it with AI. They are now disbanding the team that did it because the problem is now solved. Hope this helps.

>>2880411
>Why did Google want to release a middle eastern super disease inside countless mosquitos in all western countries when mosquitos are known to kill the most humans globally out of all diseases?
elaborate on the mosquitos thing

>>2880820
Anyone?

>>2881054
They're probably schizoposting about gene drives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_drive

Basically, we know how we could eradicate all disease causing mosquitos. Eggheads are debating whether it's a good idea. Possibility for unintended consequences is high.



 

What’s the point of knowing leftist theory or political philosophy when we can simply base our politics on the notion of radical empathy?

Theory and philosophy are worthless and meaningless but empathy is something anyone can understand. It’s elitist as fuck to base your political aspirations on some grand abstract ideals since this ultimately creates hierarchies of intelligence because not everyone can grasp it. Yet empathy is a universal concept. Every political goal we seek has no reason to be done in the name of “Marxism” or “anarchism” but simply out of empathy, collective care for the weakest and most vulnerable of our world. It is only a politics of vulnerability that can ever be truly inclusive.

Instead of looking to establish some grand utopia, our politics need to be based on being trauma-informed. Trump, Epstein, covid and Palestine all gave us collective CPTSD. Radical leftist politics should be primarily concerned with HEALING. Likewise, we have now become aware of the purely eugenicist nature of capitalism. The only way to stop and prevent eugenics is through empathy, not through some grand theory like Marxism.

Literally everyone is complaining about the lack of empathy and support in the world today. It should be our primary job to bring empathy back so that the most vulnerable and marginalized identities are allowed full human dignity and the right to be their authentic selves without fear of eradication. Your bullshit Marxist philosophy can’t accomplish that.
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>>2881051
Hegelians believe in love? News to me.

>>2881063
You don’t need complex abstract “solutions.” Just base institutions on the principles of community care. Make care work the dominant industry in society and let the robots do all the manufacturing.

>>2881070
That’s retarded.

I find it telling how the American left is such a shut show that it’s willing to throw away philosophy and economics in favour of TikTok pop psychology.

>>2880999
>What’s the point of knowing leftist theory or political philosophy when we can simply base our politics on the notion of radical empathy?
Because "radical empathy" is bullshit, and saying "capitalism is mean and causes me trauma" isn't a scientific understanding.



 

the combined share of global gdp by the US and EU fell by almost half since 2005 and continues to decline
Many relatively underdeveloped thirdie nations are taking an increasingly dominant positions in the global economy and trade and continue to rise, While former juggernauts like the UK and Japan are stagnating, Less western-subjugated governments popping up everywhere, Even in Africa many impoverished nations will be solidly middle income in a generation if their current economic growth rate continues into the future, Less warfare than before on the continet in general.

The global north watching their importance in the world stage diminish and ability to control other more impoverished nations……How do you think their governemnts are going to react?

More nakedly imperialistic and unjustifiably aggressive policies?
Are such reasons tied to some recent US actions e.g. Iran and Venezuela?
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The IMF, World Bank and BRI are digging the grave of capitalism by developping the south. Soon we won't have anywhere to put the sweatshops

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>>2880558
>Third-worldists so obsessed with le imperialism they've forgotten how capitalism even works

>>2880558
Sweatshops are a skill issue for poorfag countries and not an inherent nature of capitalism. The entire world can become developed first world and capitalism can still survive. You can run the Japan playbook forever.

will there be less immigrants and third world brain drain if global south becomes first world?
I guess right wingers would celebrate.

>>2880463
How can these countries improve if civilization is collapsing? Resource depletion? Failing fisheries? Soil erosion? Climate change? Anyone?



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