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 No.224499[Reply]

What's his deal?

From what I've read, he criticizes hegel pretty harshly for his supposed "rash" decision making.

How can someone conclude that heideggerian thinking could be useful to Marxism or at all?
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 No.226874

>>226801
>For what it's worth he was romantically involved with Hannah Arendt, a Jew, which seems odd for an anti-semite
He should have followed the coom and become a hero for it instead of sucking off the false heroism of Nazis.
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 No.226875

>>226801
incredibly based. What people call implicit fascism in heidegger is the rejection of liberal subjectivity (atomistic individuals who freely engage in society on a second instance), which, btw, is part of Marxism too.
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 No.226877

>>226860
And? What’s your point? I don’t believe in great man theory where individuals actually do something unique in terms of rational choice. Hegel, Heidegger, and Marx are just an index of thoughts leading up to their time in history.
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 No.226907

>>226801
>he had nothing to say about Jews.
You are extremely ignorant and just making up shit here.
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 No.227305

>>226801
What do you think about Adorno's and Zizek's critique of Heidegger as well as their insistence that you can't separate his philosophy from his political vision?


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How important is Internet presence, and how does it relate to material politics?

From looking at the relationship between Internet politics and real life politics, we realise that both are closely influenced by each other, however the casual relationship is more tilted in favour on the material side. What I mean by this is that material politics are the base on which the superstructure of Internet politics are built, we can see this in the fact that.

>Trump was not popularised due to the alt-right, but Trump certainly popularised the alt-right.

>Bernie was not carried to anyway by democratic socialists but he did increase the popularity of socialism.

Then what is the internet useful for in material politics? In the beginning of 2016 the Alt-right had a much bigger had more effective presence on the internet, why? It was because the Alt-right had an presence on the internet since 2010 and had accumulated marginal gains, this made it easier for them to take advantage of the material political landscape, as opposed to the internet Left. The Internet is useful for spreading arguments,ideas and discussions and for softening up(Normalizing) radical ideas.

But the Internet is bad at one thing, creating dedicated movements for social change, i.e high-risk or high intensity activism.

>This is the second crucial distinction between traditional activism and its online variant: social media are not about this kind of hierarchical organization. Facebook and the like are tools for building networks, which are the opposite, in structure and character, of hierarchies. Unlike hierarchies, with their rules and procedures, networks aren’t controlled by a single central authority.


>In Germany in the nineteen-seventies, they go on, “the far more unified and successful left-wing terrorists tended to organize hierarchically, with professional management and clear divisions of labor. They were concentrated geographically in universities, where they could establish central leadership, trust, and camaraderie through regular, face-to-face meetings.” They seldom betrayed their comrades in arms during police interrogations. Their counterparts on the right were organized as decentralized networks, and had no such discipline. These groups were regularly infiltrated, and members, once arrested, easily gave u
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 No.227198

>>226915
>You know you can create your own websites and you don't necessarily need to use big corpo bullshit websites like reddit, right? We should be creating alternatives and solutions to the problems now, because otherwise you're just abandoning one of the most valuable communication systems in human history to bourgeois domination.

Why did old forums disappear? Why do new sites never get off the ground? Because the internet has been monopolized to the extent that when people say "the internet" they overwhelmingly mean Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Google, Youtube, Reddit and a few other specialized sites like LinkedIn.

Obviously we need to use the internet because it is now the basis of nearly all interpersonal and group communication. But let's please drop the techno-optimism, it's not 1995 anymore. The internet was a commons and it has been enclosed. Now the internet is a bludgeon used effectively against dissent. We can be tracked and monitored everywhere to an extent never before possible, and all internet activity orbits the big social media.

This site leftypol.org is about as fringe as a site gets while still being active, and that's an anomoly that comes out of how absolutely vile and self-censuring leftist internet discourse is, which is a situation not at all related to the form the entire has taken.

And look around this site. It is full of screencaps from twitter, full of links to youtube, full of discussions that center around people whose primary platforms are twitter and youtube and who none of us would have heard of otherwise. I remember bulletin board style forums in the early 2000s, and discussions were not constantly redirected to one massive crowded watering hole. There were a variety of websites and forums for individual topics that you could be sent to or seek out. That was never sustainable as soon as the internet became generalized social infrastructure and was subject to the motion of capital. So the internet was enclosed, and now even on this nominally niche and independent website, at least half of all discussion is oriented around or actively includes reference to what someone is saying on Twitter.

It really is just cope to say otherwise. Use the internet as a tool but don't mistake it for neutral terrain that we can bend to our purposes. Use it to find Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.227204

>>227169
well, I would say that those were the English colonies that pre-dated stuff but you know jsjssjsjksjskfsjk
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 No.227214

>>227197
But the only thing that has ever existed solely to support liberalism is fascism. Even now, in Ukraine. Communism is the only thing that ever threatened the liberal world order.
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 No.227221

>>227198
>the internet has been monopolized
which is why
<We should be creating alternatives and solutions to these problems now
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 No.227304

>>227221
Did you bother reading any other portion of the post? Do you think you're the first person to come up with this idea? Every other day people have this brilliant idea to come up with socialist alternatives to existing internet monopolies, why has it never worked?

This is a fairly active leftist forum that exists outside of the standard social media complex. THIS is the alternative, like it or not, and you're not going to get anything much beyond this no matter how many threads you making saying "right wingers spread their ideas on facebook we should do that too and have a communist q anon!"

Reactionaries have it easy, all they need to do is tap into existing pathos and prejudice, and the aesthetic dominated instant-gratification of the internet is the perfect venue to propagate their ideology. Any socialism worth the name requires study and practice for people to develop their political education, and any socialism that managed to establish itself primarily through twitter influencers and facebook group would not be worth the name.


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 No.227009[Reply]

With the rise of the internet young kids mostly waste their life on the internet ,back in the day we had working class kids calling themselves metalheads,punks,skins,rockbillies,freaks,rockers,rudeboys,hiphopers etc
This groups often took part in direct actions and view themselves as enemies of the system .
So how are we going to take the grillpill and touch grass?
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 No.227260

'ate thatcher
luv hardcore

simple as
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 No.227262

>>227009
No and good
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 No.227286

They already have returned. Just look at Tumblr, Reddit, 4chan, Thinkgeek.
counter culture is garbage, it always was. stop romanticizing it
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 No.227292

>>227286
Yea i am sure 4chan is a good analogue to the street fighters of the 80s
How old are you?
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 No.227294

>>227009
Those arent counter cultures, i think alternative cultures would be more apt, the only counter culture is socialism.


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 No.166365[Reply]

It seems internet egoists miss the point of Stirner. Even worse, they use Stirner to justify their retarded spooks, pic related.

We've seen it with edgy egoist 4channers, with the resident "egoist" incel, and now with this genius in the burgerkreig thread.

Is Egoism just cynical individualist liberalism/american-libertarianism?

How can we despook them if they have already read Stirner and it went over their head?
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 No.224108

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I believe Egoism is a pretty bad name for Stirner's philosophy (or anti-phylosophy if you want to put it that way) given that it not only comes from a faulty translation by Steven T. Byington but it also reifies the central concept into an abstraction or a state of affairs to be established. What name should we give it then, if any at all? I personally like Self-Juche.
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 No.224420

No one takes Stirner seriously. He's just a meme.
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 No.224463

It seems internet X miss the point of Y. Even worse, they use Y to justify their retarded spooks, pic related.

X can be any ideology or tendency, Y any thinker of that tendency.
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 No.224490

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>>224108
>What name should we give it then, if any at all?
I call it surviving..
I wonder why those who come after stirner are not as widely read by the internet 'egoists'? Many of them seem discarded or unknown, which is odd to me because the pages of Machete, L'En-Dehors or Elephant Editions.
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 No.227108

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>>224420
>No one takes Stirner seriously. He is just a meme
That's the point, you shouldn't reify some guy who lived 200 years ago if you are naive enough to believe that Stirner wasn't just Engels' puppet account to troll Marx just because he said things you may agree with. It's a descriptive material, not prescriptive like many other philosophies, hence the usage of the term "anti-philosophy" and my ambivalence towards the name "Egoism".


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 No.225803[Reply]

Reject matrimony, embrace divorce.

>Cascade Investment, a holding company Bill Gates created with the proceeds of Microsoft Corp. stock sales and dividends, transferred securities worth more than $1.8 billion to Melinda French Gates, a day after the pair announced their divorce after 27 years of marriage.


>Melinda Gates is now the beneficial owner of 14.1 million shares of Canadian National Railway Co. worth about $1.5 billion, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing dated May 3. Cascade also transferred 2.94 million shares in AutoNation Inc., worth $309 million. Through Cascade, Gates has interests in real estate, energy and hospitality as well as stakes in dozens of public companies, including Deere & Co. and Republic Services Inc. The couple are also among the largest landowners in America.


>Gates is worth $145.4 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.
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 No.225918

BASED?
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 No.226141

>>225815
More likely then not
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 No.226237

My grandparents were worth nothing but were married for over fifty years
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 No.227040

>>226237
Good for them
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 No.227044

>>225814
Stfu, you MRA idpol faggot.


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 No.4557[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Last thread: >>983378

Why did the Soviet Union annex Moldova but not Romania, eventually at least? Might as well have gone all out and annexed all Romanian-speaking lands.
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 No.226800

>>226581
The fuck, I never realised Gazi was a flaming fruity queen. I guess that explains why he's so deperate for attention.
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 No.226884

>>226677
DAS RIIIIITE
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 No.226895

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>>226581
Real life Afro-Nazbol Gang
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 No.226961

>>226762
Oh. Thanks for the information anon.
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 No.227043

>>225875
Socialism was coined by the utopians many years before either of those existed. The words socialist/socialism first appeared in the 1820s and 1830s in Owenite and Saint-Simonian publications.


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 No.200077[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This motherfucker was the literally who great grandfather of postmodernism. Why does /leftypol/ still keep worshipping him?
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 No.226878

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 No.226899

>>200077
No, descartes was, the introduction of the problem of the cartesian subject is what brought about the reduction of this or that as spooks, with its final auction placed by Kant. (the world external to the individual, the world external to language, to disciplinary relations…). The problem of stirner, and of PoMo too, is that they still do philosophy under the shadow of Kant a priorism bullshit.
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 No.226903

>>200240
individual isolated subject = liberal subject
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 No.226905

The dumber the thread the more replies it'll get.
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 No.226913

>>200267
>mfw when the world i live in is an illusion
>mfw when i was somehow phisically concieved by two other humans' phisical creampie
>mfw when an illusion (material, therefore empirical concept of creampie) brought about my existence with all its bullshitty a priori fundamentations


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City Offers Homeless One-Way Travel Ticket to Europe if They Sign Contract to Never Return
Toprak Yergu, a Basel Department of Justice spokesperson, told local newspaper 20 Minutes that homeless individuals in the city can request a travel voucher and 20 Swiss francs (USD$21.90). In return, the individuals must sign a contract vowing not to return to the country for a specified period of time.
https://www.newsweek.com/city-offers-homeless-one-way-travel-ticket-europe-if-they-sign-contract-never-return-1588085
https://archive.is/AWQd4

Vaccine makers say IP waiver could hand technology to China and Russia
As industry lobbying has escalated in Washington, companies have warned in private meetings with US trade and White House officials that giving up the intellectual property rights could allow China and Russia to exploit platforms such as mRNA, which could be used for other vaccines or even therapeutics for conditions such as cancer and heart problems in the future.
https://www.ft.com/content/fa1e0d22-71f2-401f-9971-fa27313570ab
https://archive.is/NStpG

5 CPI Maoist Militia Members Arrested In Bhadradri Kothagudem District
Five militia members of the CPI (Maoist) from neighboring Chhattisgarh state were arrested by a combined squad of police and CRPF personnel in Kurnapalli forest area in Bhadradri-Kothagudem district on Tuesday morning.
https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/india/5-cpi-maoist-militia-members-arrested-in-bhadradri-kothagudem-district/

Two former British soldiers acquitted of murdering IRA leader Joe McCann after trial collapses due to inadmissible evidence
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 No.225671

>>224608
Probably an Anglo thing
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 No.226042

So it is too soon to say that PPW in India is over?
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 No.226048

>>224929
>NewsAnon posting articles from Crimethinc
Many anons that actually do shit here seem to be anarchists. Unsurprised.
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 No.226055

>>224496
>House officials that giving up the intellectual property rights could allow China and Russia to exploit platforms such as mRNA, which could be used for other vaccines or even therapeutics for conditions such as cancer and heart problems in the future.
Damn, that's scary. Chinese and Russians saving lives? Hope US will prevent this injustice.
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 No.226900

Nuke Switzerland. It's gonna be hard to return to the surface from their adorable little ground holes once the entire country glows in the dark.


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 No.100123[Reply]

A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.

Red, White, Green, Black, Basmachi
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>>211092
Spasskaya Tower of the Moscow Kremlin, 1917
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 No.226825

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 No.226850

a recommended watch for this thread


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 No.226511

>>224553
Lagos
>>225442
Hello Anon

But anyways I’m so jealous of the Flippino diaspora they are actually doing stuff to support the National democracy movement. All the African diaspora does is shake there asses, eat jollof, harass women and be classist. I wish there was some alternative but atm all we have is the EFF.
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 No.226618

>>224597
Last year there were 63 farm murders compared to South Africa’s already super high crime rate of 38 murders per 100,000. Point to any region and show me how thats a serious anomaly.

also
>the ANC
>being “anti-white” when Cryil is completely controlled by white buisness interests

Ofc a Boer sympathizer wouldn’t understand the complex class relations in post-apartheid South Africa. Why would porkies care about some dumbfuck boer farmers or returning to aparthied when they reap the benefits of a Black shill puppet government.
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 No.226759

>>226618
This.

I am very skeptical of the EFF tho, I've heard skepticism from South African friends as well. I would like them to put forward a concrete plan detailing how they intend to distribute land, educate poor people in agro methods, and how the process will work without any reduction in output. Taking the land is obviously necessary and top priority but fumbling the process would be disastrous on every level.
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 No.226773

THOMAS SANKARA
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 No.226829

>>226759
This is also what i also said to a South African anon! I think they mentioned it in there 2019 manifesto but it obviously was not as detailed as you say. I like Ndlozi though he seems actually based in communist theory compared to some of the others in leadership who are just vaguely using Left wing nationalism.


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