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 No.294972[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

VERSIÓN 2.0
The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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 No.392177

Si alguien esta aburrido y quiere reirse un rato
https://nitter.fdn.fr/AccidentalSutep
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 No.392217

>>392177
>Es mejor destruir nosotros mismos al país antes de que lo haga un comunista.
AYYYYY
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 No.392218

>>392217
*Terrorista
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 No.392519

>>388177
>WTF AMLO GOING FULL BASED?


 No.326202[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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 No.391333

>>391329
А где, в Красноярске, что ли? Или в Волгограде?
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 No.391629

Found this in a comment section. Is this true?
>You should know as well that [Dugin] was caught numerous times praising Himmler and engaging in massive freak shows with the Harlot of Babylon and tributes to Aleister Crowley. Sergey Kurginyan did an entire 10 part video series investigating the strange world of russian leftists and their connections to the CIA, traitors within the KGB, neo-nazis, satanists, french trots connected with intelligence and the transnational financial oligarchy.
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 No.392209

>>391629

Kurginyan also has a wierd cult around him, from what I have heard. The "marginal left" (lack if a better term for the groupuscules outside of large organizations) is a shitshow like everywhere.
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 No.392320

>>391333
Например в точке где сходятся границы России, Украины и Беларуси, но вообще надо уменьшать завязку на один город. Work from home, йоба!
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 No.392323

English-speaking Russian news sites?


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 No.392181[Reply]

I came here to make all of you a question.
Who of you is the most communistier? Explain why your more communist than the other posters of /leftypol/.
I just wanted to ask that, discuss.
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 No.392191

>>392186
>having your fist language be the language of the most capitalistic and bloodthirsty countries.
That makes most non-anglo posters more communistic than anglo-posters imo ngl tbh
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 No.392256

>>392181
something something commodity form
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 No.392264

>>392181
I have a thorough understanding of capitalist production and the social classes that are constituted in it. This understanding includes the conflicting material interests between the classes, and the various forms of social consciousness (ideology) that this conflict has generated. I know that communism is the sublation of this struggle between classes into a new mode of production and therefore a new mode of social organization. Because this conclusion follows from a purely materialist analysis of social relations, this makes me more authentically communist than most on this board who come to a similar conclusion by assimilating an ideology.
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 No.392268

I tested my communist power level yesterday, it’s pretty high I’d say. Vegeta was wrong when he said that “hard work” could not achieve greatness the way “talent” does.
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 No.392296

>>392191
cope and seethe ESL


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 No.391809[Reply]

Are reparations based and should leftist support it?
I know some leftypolack here opposed but i wanna know why would you.
To who should go reparations? Only africans?
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 No.392068

Shit tier /pol/ bait fuck off to the USA thread no one cares about your country as much as you believe.

Saged and reported
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 No.392108

A completely unrealistic and unworkable program based on spooks whose function is virtue signaling and solidarity cracking.
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 No.392232

>Are IDpol based?
No. Go to the reeducation camp.
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 No.392248

Any dollar amount that would be electorally feasible would be a band-aid fix
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 No.392543

https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2019/09/04/reparations-to-slave-descendants-in-the-usa-and-germany/
>But the demand for reparations is a bourgeois reformist demand and the bourgeois politicians advocating it will try desperately to eliminate and reference to class and class relations. They will shy away even more decisively from any prospect of forcible confiscation of property from part of the ruling class since that throws the safety of the entire class into question.


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 No.390557[Reply]

Police Motor Pool Firebombed by Dutch Anarchist Group, Revolutionary Resistance
Militant anarchists in the Netherlands have claimed the July 15th attack targeting a police motor pool with an improvised incendiary device/explosive device (IID/IED) in the small Dutch town of Gemert. The detonation of the device and the ensuing conflagration destroyed at least one police squad car and seriously damaged two others. The burning vehicles were discovered around 4 a.m. and extinguished.
https://thewannabewonk.substack.com/p/police-motor-pool-firebombed-by-dutch

Kurdish forces claim to have killed nine Turkish invading soldiers as battle rages in Iraqi Kurdistan
KURDISH guerillas claimed on Sunday night to have killed nine Turkish soldiers in raids in the Avashin mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan as fierce fighting continues. According to Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) sources, two military camps and a rocket launcher were destroyed in last Friday’s operation.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/kurdish-forces-claim-have-killed-nine-turkish-invading-soldiers-battle-rages-iraqi

Duque isolated as many in Colombia go on strike again
Colombia’s far-right President Ivan Duque found himself isolated on Monday as mayors and protesters prepared for the 84th day of anti-government protests. Bogota Mayor Claudia Lopez gave the indigenous people from southwest Colombia a warm welcome as they entered the city to take part in the Independence Day protests.
https://colombiareports.com/duque-isolated-over-colombias-new-anti-government-protests/

Mexican Journalist Shot Dead in Morelia City
A group of armed men opened fire on him in the facility parking lot and drove away through Madero Poniente Avenue. In the attack, an ice-paddle salesman was also hurt. Michoacan State Prosecutor’s Office already arrested three suspects on the La Huerta road, less than three kilometers from the crime scene. The dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.391732

>>390911
Dutchie here, shut the fuck up bootlicker
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 No.391953

>>391732
Cuban here, kill yourself marxista
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 No.391958

>>391953
>Cuban
<not a Miami Mutt
They’re not sending their best.
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 No.391962

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>>391953
German here
are there jews in this room rn?
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 No.391964

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>>391953
American intervention will not give you your family's slaves back


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 No.391424[Reply]

Thoughts on the ideas of Henry George? Seems pretty based to me. Marx was critical of his ideas, agreeing with them in some basic respects but viewing it as a limp half-measure. I disagree with Marx here. George does not have the stigma Marx carries, and his idea is simple and utterly agreeable to all but the most hardened of porkies: people keep the value earned from everything they produce and unearned income from the ownership of land is all that is to be taxed. No sort of wishy-washy neoliberalist critique that taxing land would disincentivize development, land is a necessity and will be developed in more proactive ways if land speculation is impracticable because simply sitting on it will not yield a profit. As this would be a tax on "unimproved land value."

The masses, right or left, except porky would ultimately get behind this idea had it any currency in modern political discourse. As capitalism has curdled over in recent decades and porky has tightened his grip on the levers of power, unearned income is taxed more favorably than earned income.

Georgism is a great hedge between capitalism and socialism. Had Marx saw it more clearly, it could be a viable and massively popular intermediate stage between capitalism and socialism. No income or sales tax? Who would say no to that?

It's clear that unlike an idealistic, huge change such as a massive revolution, popular, uncontroversial practical concrete steps to tip the scales and erode porky's power have a much better chance of putting the first foot forward.
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 No.391600

Henry George was popular in the big cities in the late 19th century. He represented a unique part of the left wing movement, or the broader working class movement that was taking form in the US. Engels talks about him in his notes on Conditions of the Working Class in England. He speaks of where the American working class movement is at by the late 1880s and he talks of the Knights of Labor and the Henry George movement we’re the biggest then. The socialist party wasn’t so popular since it was made up of mostly German immigrants who brought all their experience from 4 decades of class struggle in Europe but had not much experience with it in the US.
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 No.391624

It's interesting how Georgist ideas have almost completely fallen out of favor these days. His book Progress and Poverty was one of the most popular books in US history.
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 No.391897

>>391594
>it's viable as a "stepping stone" is just SocDem rhetoric
George's idea is in the Communist Manifesto. Although you might not think of it as a stepping stone, it does challenge the way people think and leads to people thinking about radical politics, like yourself.
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 No.391931

>his idea is simple and utterly agreeable to all but the most hardened of porkies
DOA.
Porkies will never settle for anything less of the absolute most they can get away with squeezing out of the proletariat. FDR enacted critical labour reforms that directed some of porky's surplus labour profits back the working class to temporarily save capitalism and the American economy during the great depression and Porky called him a communist and made plans to kill him and instate a corporate dictatorship. When the communists won in Cuba, the American state made plans to terror bomb and massacre thousands of their own citizens to blame on the Cubans, in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. Georgism does not work for the same reason social democracy could never work: Porky will never settle with the proletariat, unless the proletariat is strong enough to take much more by force. Once the militant working class is pacified, porky will sink his fangs in once more.
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 No.391948

>>391931
>Porkies will never settle for anything less of the absolute most they can get away with squeezing out of the proletariat.
But landlordism also squeezes Porkies. There's a reason Winston Churchill of all people ran around saying incredibly based things about the parasitism of landlords. They screw over businessmen just as surely as they screw over workingmen.
(Nominally, at least. With modern finance-capitalism it's quite easy to come to an analysis that the situation has shifted as part of the general split of finance and industrial capital, with industrial capital left holding the can or moving to countries which were smart enough to do a bit of the ol' landlord ""classicide"", but it's worth remembering that fundamentally landlordism is a feudal holdover.)


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 No.382710[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

If foreign powers are in fact spreading radical messages across America in an attempt to destabilize the country and start a race war, would it work? Would anti-capitalists benefit?
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 No.391822

>>391817
> I'm calling bullshit on you, bitch. There's no way brown and black men were letting that shit slide unless they were buck broken hard. The school I go to is in the north east, not the south. The dudes that gave me shit were usualy rich faggot desi dudes, Arab dudes, or just black people in general. I had one confrontational East Asian.
Yea you are 100% full of shit
Honestly you’re probably just an unlikable cunt and convinced it’s because you’re white
I’ve never once seen shit like you’re describing and yet one of the most beautiful black girls I’ve seen in my entire life was in a relationship with a white dude and literally nobody cared and everyone actually liked the guy because he was a nice dude

I didn’t usually see interracial couples but that’s because white guys aren’t into black or brown women for the most part
> I admit I could've used a better equivalent, like an upscale black urban neighborhood instead of just the hood.
Yea you could have used literally anything other than neighborhoods defined by being impoverished and filled with crime and violence.
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 No.391835

>>391831
> So you admit you don't have much experience with the issue?
I admit that absolutely none of the times I’ve seen a white man with a non-white woman did I see that person get harassed, nor have I seen a white person get harassed walking through a black neighborhood, nor have I ever seen an interracial couple of any mixed harassed or heckled IRL

Hence why I think you’re full of shit
> Lmao, everyone who actually knows me would describe me as gregarious and funny. The dude's who started shit with me usually never spoke to me until they saw me with one of their women; they didn't know me at all so how would they know my personality? They were just asshurt because they were getting cucked.
Yea every asshole ever will tell you how great their friends think they are
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 No.391840

stop dealing with the guy's personal issues
he is not gonna get it
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 No.391842

oop forgot to sage
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 No.391927

>>384464
MUH VIDYA


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 No.198097[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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 No.389711

>>389384
>It's always the same story of a corrupt politician vs some brave cop who's on the side of le people.
tbf most of the films often portray the entre police force of being comically corrupt and dirty, with the exception of a single moral renegade cop who often takes the laws in their own hands
most Indian's are aware of the fact that cops are bad here, but those films are about Hope
Hope that one day a man with that authority can do something to change the institution
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 No.389862

>>389711
>most Indian's are aware of the fact that cops are bad here, but those films are about Hope
>Hope that one day a man with that authority can do something to change the institution
That makes me tear up. It's the same reason I fantasize about being superman.

But a better hope story is this movie I watched once about a slum in dharavi and they have a local leader who beefs with some builders and politicians who want to gentrify their neighbourhood and con them out of homes

In the end they lose after they send pigs in at night and smoke the entire slum and the leader dies but the next day the politician comes in to start the ceremonies for construction but the entire community surrounds him and block all the police through sheer numbers of their own and they spray holi colours in the air to make everything hazy and then they beat the politician to death. Hype asf moment and nobody gets arrested because they can't pinpoint who killed him exactly, Nobody snitches on each other.

Even without a great man, The people stayed united and won against the evil rich man, They realized they outnumbered the rich and powerful and finally used strategic violence against them as they did.
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 No.389979

>>389862
that's great and all but most people don't only have themselves to take off, they have families and loved ones, that depend on them or who can be exploited and intimidated
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 No.391923

We're counting on you, Indian comrades.
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 No.392047

>>391923
China considers Taiwan to be a part of China. This goes way back to a long standing rivalry. The communist party of China and the KMT fought for power in China, the CPC won and the KMT became an impotent exile government in Taiwan that for a very long time declared to be datruetrue government of a larger China which consisted of the Chinese mainland and Taiwan. The KMT has lost this battle and the government position in Taiwan since then, and officially Taiwan is considered to be something like an autonomous region in China. Unofficially Taiwan is still treated like a mostly sovereign country.

When Japan talks about defending Taiwan, that would be like Mexico saying it intends to defend Texas against the US government, in case Texas wanted to revamp the Confederacy. The comparison is bad but the US would understand such a statement like Mexico threatening to declare war against the US. And that is exactly how China sees the Japanese statements about defending Taiwan.

If you consider the History between Japan an China, where preWW2 imperial Japan was ruthlessly occupying big parts of China for the better part of a century, it's very unsurprising that Chinese officials might have let say "rude reactions" to potential Japanese "involvement".

The other part is that Japan was on the loosing side of WW2 and conditions for it's surrender was that Japan wasn't allowed to engage in warfare. China was part of the winning side and technically China could treat this as Japan violating the conditions of their surrender in WW2.

Regardless where you stand on the Taiwan question, Japanese officials are morons of the highest order for spraying gasoline on the fire, they are not making China rethink it's position on Taiwan, they are making China rethink it's military positions towards Japan. All they did is poison diplomatic relations.


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 No.389948[Reply]

What a fucking Eurocentric cop out.
Is this the proof that Marxism is Eurocentric?
How do you justify this shit?
Are the 5 stages of history bunch of bullshit too?
Do Brainlets still justify this shit?
Did and actual AMP existed in some form?
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 No.391055

>>389999
Marx said that his model of historical materialism was Eurocentric:
>Now what application to Russia can my critic make of this historical sketch? Only this: If Russia is tending to become a capitalist nation after the example of the Western European countries, and during the last years she has been taking a lot of trouble in this direction – she will not succeed without having first transformed a good part of her peasants into proletarians; and after that, once taken to the bosom of the capitalist regime, she will experience its pitiless laws like other profane peoples. That is all. But that is not enough for my critic. He feels himself obliged to metamorphose my historical sketch of the genesis of capitalism in Western Europe into an historico-philosophic theory of the marche generale [general path] imposed by fate upon every people, whatever the historic circumstances in which it finds itself, in order that it may ultimately arrive at the form of economy which will ensure, together with the greatest expansion of the productive powers of social labour, the most complete development of man. But I beg his pardon. (He is both honouring and shaming me too much.)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/11/russia.htm
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 No.391561

>>389948
AMP is a kind of slavery. Also, "asiatic" in AMP means Mesopotamian kingdoms. AMP is a non-issue nobody ever cared about
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 No.391568

>>390993
Evolution is a fact, the theories are about how it operates. In they are always striving to have predictive power, in fact macroevolution is the subdiscipline of biology that is always grappling with the challenges of predictive power more than any other.
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 No.391722

>>390989
Yep, it’s so true that these kind of cultists always have some strange impulse to promote their own brand of ideology by picking and choosing certain out of context passage Marx wrote without a historical and materialistic analysis of his entire body of work. Most of the criticism toward early Marx was later addressed by the man himself.

It’s like they see Marx as a non-corporeal being that existed and wrote all of his work all at once like the biblical myth instead of a social scientist that achieved so much more than his limited research capabilities allowed.
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 No.391917

Follow Marx's mode of analysis, rather than its conclusions.

AMP should be replaced with corvee labor, which is the mode of production preceding slavery.


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 No.388889[Reply]

So your telling me that the united states had thousands to millions of armed and trained infantry, cannons, fully automatic rifles, bombs , molotovs, battle jets, missiles, flamethrowers and chemical weapons but somehow lost to some rice farmers with ak47s whom got their weapons from some communist shithole in the 1970s?
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 No.391622

>>388907
You burger don't realize how big Vietnam is. USA would have to send in like 5-10 million soldiers to pacify the country.
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 No.391711

>>388986
No
It was a struggle to reunite their country and beat back foreign invaders for North Vietnam and the US wanted a puppet government in South Vietnam (who never stood a chance against the NVA and their own internal peasant insurgents). The US was terrified that an actual invasion of North Vietnam would trigger a war with China or Russia (whom the US knew then as it does now that it could not actually defeat) so fought the war to best of their ability in the interests of avoiding a confrontation with a military and geopolitical equivalent.
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 No.391815

americans can't fight on mountains
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 No.391915

>>389538
The best weapon is time. Capitalism will inevitably collapse on itself.


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