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 No.1603965[Reply]

Maoists in India and the Philippines have been fighting for over 50 years and are nowhere closer to taking power than they were in the 60s. In fact they control less territory and command less popular support than ever. Filipinos clearly prefer Duterte and Bongbong to the NPA, granting both landslide victories. In Peru, Gonzalo said the quiet part out loud that he would go full Pol Pot if he won and lost what support he had. In Nepal, Maoists did win, but then abandoned trying to achieve a socialist state and just begged the IMF for handouts. Maoism just seems to be another failed ideology like Trotskyism at best, and mindless terrorism at worst. And let's not forget to mention the cringe Maoists in the first world who are obsessed with J. Sakai, and who believe that conservative racial minorities will somehow turn into Maoist guerrillas overnight. Convince me why Maoism shouldn't be relegated to the dustbin of history.
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 No.1604115

>>1604039
>Struggles in Peru
MPCP have rejected Gonzalo after believing that he surrendered, and actually do everything the old PCP was accused of like being drug lords. And this year they have officially declared support of China and Xi Jinping Thought.
Meanwhile MOVADEF are basically socdems who also believe Gonzalo surrendered but that it is actually a good thing.

 No.1604131

>>1603986
Pol Pot was literally trying to maximise rice production for export to buy machinery for industrialisation.

 No.1604151

>>1604131
The Stalin gambit - too bad it's still commodity production. Not real socialism.

 No.1605438

>>1603965
>Maoists in India and the Philippines have been fighting for over 50 years and are nowhere closer to taking power than they were in the 60s.
Objectively untrue. The Filipino movement is surging in size and popularity at the moment, and the Indian Maoists have succeeded in re-achieving unity after the disintegration of the CPI(ML), this unity being stronger for honestly undergoing serious self-criticism and recognizing the errors of the CPI(ML)'s practice and that of their sister party in Nepal. These are objectively positive trends in the movement.
>In fact they control less territory and command less popular support than ever. Filipinos clearly prefer Duterte and Bongbong to the NPA, granting both landslide victories.
Tell me, who owns the company that produced the election machines in the last Filipino election? It's pretty well accepted that the last elections were rigged to hell and back. And even if they weren't are we seriously going to accept bourgeois elections as an accurate measurement of the popularity of a people's war based principally in the most disenfranchised regions of the country?
>In Peru, Gonzalo said the quiet part out loud that he would go full Pol Pot if he won and lost what support he had.
The idea that going "full Pol Pot" is somehow the secret agenda of Maoists and Maoism is cute. Wikipedia has a better analysis of why the people's war in Peru failed.
>In Nepal, Maoists did win, but then abandoned trying to achieve a socialist state and just begged the IMF for handouts.
What exactly are you trying to argue here, that Prachanda's opportunism is reflective of the wider Maoist movement despite their wholesale denunciation of him? Not to mention it's not like Prachanda is the first communist to gain power and then take on a liberal reformist stance. See: the vast majority of Soviet-backed African states between 1970-90. The lessons of Nepal are important to the Maoist movement and Maoism has long moved on.
>Maoism just seems to be another failed ideology like Trotskyism at best, and mindless terrorism at worst. And let's not forget to mention the cringe Maoists in the first world who are obsessed with J. Sakai, and who believe that conservative racialPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1608792

>>1603985
>capital export is imperialism
And other hilarious jokes from the dogmatists stuck in the 20th century. Since all nations do capital exports, this means every nation is imperialist, so let's hide in our book clubs and write newspapers instead.


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 No.1602125[Reply]

>travel to the DPRK on orders from the CIA under the Obama regime as a "tourist"
>get caught on your hostile mission to deface a propaganda poster encouraging Korean patriotism in face of US aggression
>admit to your crimes on national TV
>deliberately contract botulism to initiate a smear campaign against the DPRK
>get your parents to falsely claim you were tortured despite zero medical evidence of this
>complete the coverup by arranging for your corpse not to be autopsied
why did he do it? what turns a young man to such heinous crimes? was it his father? Fred Warmbier has been seen on US television calling the DPRK a "pariah regime", "brutal" and "terroristic" despite the DPRK never having attacked the US
>US citizens are since banned from traveling to the DPRK
why does the Biden regime not want its subjects to see the DPRK for themselves? this cannot be a coincidence
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 No.1603905

>>1603903
>catch glowie
>deport him to mother base without punishment
hmm yeah no

 No.1603907

>>1603903
If America is allowed to imprison people in remote prison colonies for suspected terrorism then why is it such an inconceivable thing for the DPRK to punish someone engaged in espionage on behalf of a foreign power. Swear to god, a nation in the imperial periphery need only exercise its sovereignty and the resident libs will demand its extermination

 No.1603908

>>1603905
>>1603907
the worst part is I can't even tell if you guys are trolling or not

 No.1603915

>>1602160
>least psychotic leftypol poster

 No.1603918

>>1603915
Good job, you found an unhinged post on an imageboard


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 No.1602614[Reply]

>The American Genocide of the Indians—Historical Facts and Real Evidence
<The term “genocide”, made from the ancient Greek word genos (race, nation or tribe) and the Latin caedere (“killing, annihilation”), was first coined by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish-Jewish legal scholar, in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. It originally means “the destruction of a nation or an ethnic group”.
>In 1946, United Nations (UN) General Assembly affirmed genocide as a crime under international law in Resolution 96, which stated that “Genocide is a denial of the right of existence of entire human groups, as homicide is the denial of the right to live of individual human beings; such denial of the right of existence shocks the conscience of mankind … and is contrary to moral law and the spirit and aims of the United Nations.”
<On December 9, 1948, the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 260A, or the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which entered into force on January 12, 1951. The Resolution noted that “at all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity”. Article II of the Convention clearly defines genocide as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the groups to another group. The United States ratified the Convention in 1988.
>Genocide is also clearly defined in U.S. domestic law. The United States Code, in Section 1091 of Title 18, defines genocide as violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, a definition similar to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
<According to historical records and media reports, since its founding, the United States has systematically deprived Indians of their rights to life and basic political, economic, and cultural rights throPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1603377

Was a genocide

 No.1603382

>>1603167
I seriously can't believe that calling them 'Indians' is still not considered offensive in 2023, just goes to show how they truly are given even less of a shit about than black people. I mean I can't think of a single rich or famous native American person in the USA.

 No.1603384

>>1603167
also, calling the american indegenous "indians" is the most amerimutt fucking thing i have ever seen.

The essay written in the original post is by the government of China. Guess it's time for you to tell Xi he is an amerimutt

 No.1603420

>>1603257
>i expected higher quality reasoning than muh revolution
If you want theory go read a book. Rosa Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution is popular on the topic. Nobody here wants to lay out the arguments for a revolution because if you actually care you can go read those.
>i genuinely misused the word genocide, what i should have said is "a large death toll".
If you think "a large death toll" is the probable outcome of not treating indigenous people like shit then you have a totally warped view of reality and should log off.

>race and autism score shit
I.Q. is dependent on environmental factors and isn't measuring anything real anyway. This has been debunked to death. There's a million books or essays or blogposts or youtube videos that explain thoroughly why this is made up nonsense.
TL;DR version is that it's just a test that was made up and then assumed that it meant something when some people did better than others. It's unscientific and has no theoretical or evidential basis behind how it works, only post-hoc rationalizations. Further, it originated as an explicitly eugenicist project looking for a superiority that was assumed to exist.

 No.1603436

>>1603396
You are calling China historians lazy for calling them indians. China refers to them as indians

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/wjdt_665385/2649_665393/202203/t20220302_10647120.html


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 No.1601504[Reply]

Soviet and communist support for the creation of Israel was a critical break in the spring of the world communist movement, and in some ways led to the downfall of the Soviet Union, because it was the first major policy undermining Leninist principles. Even after 1967 when the socialist bloc cut ties with Israel and started heavily supporting the Palestinian resistance, global communist parties continued to advocate for a two-state solution. The Palestinian revolutionaries who rejected the two-state solution were called the Rejectionist Front. Support for the two-state solution is still prominent among most ML parties today with the exceptions of some parties like the Korean and Portuguese parties. Why are so many MLs, let alone leftists, so afraid to openly call for the total liberation of all of historic Palestine, and the expulsion of all Zionists?
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 No.1601962

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>>1601720
>waaah you can't post alunya!!111!!!!
stay mad, zioshitter

 No.1602254

>>1601577
>which tbf it kind of is.
It's not.

 No.1603340

Hot take, but I wonder what would happen if Zionists (especially Revisionist Zionists and Likudniks) started taking a bite from PatSocs and began reading and applying ideas from Hegel, Heidegger, and D*gin into their ideology. I wonder how Haz and co would respond.

 No.1603343

>>1603340
With the way things are going I predict Israel will join BRICS by 2025

 No.1603344

>>1603343
I do too. Israel would be stupid not to join, and the one thing no one ever says about us Jews is that we’re stupid.


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 No.1603213[Reply]

What will become of the culture industry under a DOTP?
Can Americans even be saved at all?
Will there be biopics of revolutionaries instead of Marvel superhero movies?

 No.1603215

Suicide Squad was the last and most influential product of lumpen mass culture actually.

 No.1603222

>What will become of the culture industry under a DOTP?
The Hollywood proletariat will sieze production of culture.
>Can Americans even be saved at all?
Indeed, Americans have everything to gain from socialist revolution.
>Will there be biopics of revolutionaries instead of Marvel superhero movies?
The international proletariat will consume the tales of the revolutionary vanguard comprised of Seth Rogan, Margot Robbie, Fran Dreschler, Bryan Cranston, and Ron Pearlman and how they led the American proletariat in the battle against the bourgeoisie.

 No.1603231

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What?
You’re telling me there wont be a funko pop of Lenin if America goes communist?

 No.1604044

>anything i dont like is lumpen
i think funkos are ugly too but learn what words mean next time op


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 No.1602066[Reply]

It’s a little bewildering knowing nothing has happened to actually curb out indias population growth at this point. It’s not high in the sense that the countries geography can’t actually sustain a lot of people, it’s that its government definitely can’t, and this shows in the state of the country and its unemployment issues. The visibly poor urbanization rates topped with a complete lack of industry who is well behind China in terms of productiveness, alongside horrid amounts of corruption and you end up with a country that’s still horribly poor after decades of undisturbed development. Indias population projected to increase even more doesn’t do anything good for other Indians at all and just becomes a raging annoyance for the countries leaders to put up with, not because it’s increasing, but because it’s not going down to a level that their leaders can actually handle. There’s also just the sense that being capitalist instead of socialist makes things substantially harder in general for the country to actually progress at all.
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 No.1602661

>>1602066
Population is growing overall, but growth is decreasing in some parts. iirc kerala is below replacement levels of fertility.

 No.1602679

>>1602066
indias birthrate is already falling like everywhere else bruh

 No.1602686

>>1602679
>>1602661

In some parts, yes these ideas would apply, however the population of the country is set to increase by skittle over 100 million by 2050 and continue increasing somewhat until the end of the century.

 No.1603185

>>1602080
The imperial core outsources tech jobs to them, and they dedicate their resources to fulfilling those economic needs for the imperial core, so it's a feedback loop. The falling rate of profit will fix it eventually.

 No.1603188

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>>1602267
god I hate ch*rchill


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 No.1602984[Reply]

How democratic exactly is european union? How much of nfluence do members have in it, do some have more influence compared to others? Why are countries donating different quantities of capital and how does that influence them? How much influence do normal civilians have in this structure?

Please write actual answers and statements and not one word/one sentence texts with no arguements or information.
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 No.1603031

If we are just talking about the EU institutions and what goes on within the organization then all EU institutions are basically powerless, except the European Council which is represented by the national governments. The EU parliament has no legal initiative and the commission just pivots things that have been decided by the council before-hand. So there isn't even much effort put into the semblance of democracy It's a league of imperialist nations dependent on their respective bourgeoisies and corporations in a trenchcoat of a supranational government which doesn't exist.

 No.1603036

>How democratic exactly is european union?
It isn't democratic at all, unless you're bourgeois. It's a bourgeois dictatorship circus of bourgeois dictatorship states.

>How much of nfluence do members have in it, do some have more influence compared to others?
The larger bourgeois states have more influence because they control more capital; Germany and France, for example.

>Why are countries donating different quantities of capital and how does that influence them?
This is the manifestation of the rivalry between imperialists. These bourgeois dictatorships who "donate" the most (Germany France) aren't donating capital, but investing it into the subordinate bourgeois states of the EU (Greece) and its neocolonies (Ukraine, former communist states and Africa) to extract more capital.

>How much influence do normal civilians have in this structure?
Literally none at all. The citizens already have zero power over their own national bourgeois overlords, but they're even more alienated from the bourgeois EU lizards.

 No.1603045

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>>1602984
EU is governed by the European Council that is compromised of foreign ministers of EU countries. You could say these foreign ministers are democratically elected in their respective countries.

 No.1603046

>>1603036
but what is it like when viewed from the lens that none of the options get in the way of the cartels? Like how bourgeoise don’t manipulate the democratic process as long as it doesn’t do anything of significance. How much influence do people have in that case?

 No.1604391

>How democratic exactly is european union?
not at all


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 No.1526572[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Lately I've been reading about how syndicalists teamed up with fascists, and were in fact influential in the original fascist movement in Italy, not to mention many fascists were originally socialists. Why does there seem to be so many "hippie" fascists who paradoxically incorporate leftist ideals into their beliefs? Their understanding of capitalism is usually flawed anyway, but many fascists love to pride themselves on the fact that they transcend "left" and "right". Even considering they'd just be killed on a night of long knives anyway, many pol types support some odd amalgamation of basically just being socialism for one race, instead of being overtly pro-big business, as fascism always is in reality. Some even go as far as to basically spout textbook communist rhetoric but change "bourgeosie" to "jews". How can this phenomenon be explained?
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 No.1599222

>>1599204
>authoritarian left is when kill minorities

 No.1599297

>>1599204
context? This seems to be a common thing with reactionaries, who often participate a little in some “progressive” movements and ideas and then quickly jump to murdering and raping minorities as a political ideology.

 No.1602994

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Hey not all their ideas are bad

 No.1603003

>>1602994
That’s not an idea, it’s rhetoric.
None of these people were sincere.

 No.1603032

>>1589816
A Lot of words just to say “I’m a fascist because I’m spiritual”.
I’m not impressed.


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 No.1583135[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How do you respond to this without sounding mad? And how do we make key survival skills "leftist" again? If there is to be an imminent collapse within 10-20 years, from climate or what have you, it is imperative to cultivate these skills
>Physical strength, stamina, general fitness
>Hunting and farming
>electrical work
>building
>auto maintenance
These are just off the top of my head, but feel free to add some if you have any.
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 No.1602802

I will simply be homer simpson, lazy but nothing bad happens to me because I am a jolly and good at heart man

 No.1602819

> This stupid cartoon has a point
consider this: no it doesn't. i've been on at least one ground zero disaster zone and literally it was nothing like the survivalist nonsense /pol/ masturbates with. the best skill you can probably learn is to not be an antisocial fuck and actually bond with your friends and neighbors, form actual communal networks.

 No.1602824

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>>1600372
>it's not going to be a complete collapse but rather increases in social pressure that we're already seeing.
If only you knew how bad things really are.

 No.1602825

>>1601263
At least half of them are liberals and rest are shills from /pol/.

 No.1602830

>>1602819
what if everyone but me is an antisocial highly atomized freak


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 No.1597297[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You can't claim to be left-wing if you do not admire him. It is disgusting to see how many western "communists" repeat imperialist propaganda.
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 No.1602052

https://soha.vn/dai-su-nguyen-quang-khai-ke-ve-cuoc-gap-nguyen-thi-binh-saddam-hussein-va-viec-iraq-xoa-no-cho-viet-nam-20170828124034879.htm
Cool dude but did a lot of dumb shit. He gave us oil when Vietnam was under huge embargoes.

 No.1602161

>>1601866
>>1601869
absolute braindead behavior
get a hobby

 No.1602801

As contrarian as I am to support a man the yanks hated, he was funded by the yanks, and then proceeded to attack Iran and do no help to Tudeh or socialist movements, oppress kurds because of Iraqi nationalism, and getting so bankrupt you invade a neighbor to pay off debts. I would only support Saddam if he actually unite the Middle East against NATO but he harmed any plans to ally with Iran and Saudi Arabia was too deep in burgerstans pocket to get in good touch with Iraq

 No.1602813

>>1597761
For those, truth flows from the facts, a direct exprience is a building block in gathering a concrete understanding of the issue at hand.

 No.1602827

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>>1602161
<calling out reactionaries is braindead behvariour

>>1602813
>a direct exprience is a building block in gathering a concrete understanding of the issue at hand.
Including the concrete understanding that Saddam Hussein was a CIA plant.
Glad we agree.
on the real listen to the blowback podcast


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