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Guesswork and futurology, write thoughts for what the state of the world may be or look like in 2050.
I will not start with a kick off. Start guessing what will happen, make a bingo or something.
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Xpeng robot girlfriends by 2050 or it's a protracted people's war on the fascist state of China

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>>2569626
https://akarlin.com/short-history-of-3rd-millennium/

>(1) (a) Direct Technosingularity - 25%, if Kurzweil/MIRI/DeepMind are correct, with a probability peak around 2045, and most likely to be implemented via neural networks (Lin & Tegmark, 2016).


>(2) The Age of Em - <1%, since we cannot obtain functional models even of 40 year old microchips from scanning them, to say nothing of biological organisms (Jonas & Kording, 2016)


>(3) (a) Biosingularity to Technosingularity - 50%, since the genomics revolution is just getting started and governments are unlikely to either want to, let alone be successful at, rigorously suppressing it. And if AGI is harder than the optimists say, and will take considerably longer than mid-century to develop, then it's a safe bet that autism score-augmented humans will come to play a critical role in eventually developing it. I would put the probability peak for a technosingularity from a biosingularity at around 2100.


>(3) (b) Direct Biosingularity - 5%, if we decide that proceeding with AGI is too risky, or that consciousness both has cardinal inherent value and is only possible with a biological substrate.


>(4) Eschaton - 10%, of which: (a) Philosophical existential risks - 5%; (b) Malevolent AGI - 1%; (c) Other existential risks, primarily technological ones: 4%.


>(5) The Age of Malthusian Industrialism - 10%, with about even odds on whether we manage to launch the technosingularity the second time round.

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>>2569626
You WILL eat meat from the nonsentient biopig

>>2571451
this looks like a fetish post

>>2573944
what is this eugenicist trash



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Belgium grinds to a halt in three day general strike against austerity
It was the 13th national strike since Prime Minister Bart de Wever’s five-party right-wing coalition took office in February. Transport was brought to a standstill by the industrial action, which was joined today by teachers, healthcare staff and postal workers. A walkout across multiple sectors is planned for tomorrow.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/belgium-grinds-halt-three-day-general-strike-against-austerity

Farmers decide to blockade roads, ports
The farmers are protesting high production costs and what they term the collapse in producer prices. They demand minimum guaranteed prices and effective measures against the smallpox that has decimated sheep and goats since August 2024.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/economy/1287680/farmers-decide-to-blockade-roads-ports/

Zuma-Mncube opens criminal case against Zuma-Sambudla, others
Former President Jacob Zuma’s daughter, Nkosazana Bonganini Zuma-Mncube, has opened a criminal case against Duduzile Zuma-Sambudla, Siphokazi Xuma and Blessing Khoza. This relates to 17 South Africans who are trapped in the Ukraine-Russian war.
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/1084838-2/?hilite=lured+Russia+under

MSF pulls out of Darfur hospital after fatal shooting
The victim, who worked for Sudan's health ministry, was killed outside the Zalingei Hospital on November 18 in an incident in which four others were also wounded, MSF said. The facility is located in central Darfur state, in an area controlled by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces and removed from the front lines of the conflict with Sudan's army.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/msf-pulls-out-darfur-hospital-after-fatal-shooting-2025-11-25/
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Trump administration to retroactively vet refugees already resettled in US
The memo, signed by US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Joseph Edlow, said that refugees who are found to have failed to meet the standards for resettlement would have their legal status revoked. “Given these concerns, USCIS has determined that a comprehensive review and a re-interview of all refugees admitted from January 20, 2021, to February 20, 2025, is warranted,” the memo stated.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/25/trump-administration-to-retroactively-vet-refugees-already-resettled-in-us
https://archive.ph/gHZtp

California is considering cutting power company profits to historic lows, but bills will barely drop
In a proposed decision, the California Public Utilities Commission recommended dropping the “return on equity” by 0.35% each for Pacific Gas & Electric, Southern California Edison and San Diego Gas & Electric. If approved, shareholders of all three companies would see a potential return next year of just under 10%. Such returns for PG&E and Edison haven’t dipped below double digits in at least 20 years.
https://apnews.com/article/pg-e-corp-sempra-california-utilities-taxes-0f985b7ea71e29b04f48eb6589f7c7b2

US Education Department investigates University of California, Berkeley over Turning Point USA protest
The department's Office of Federal Student Aid will investigate whether UC Berkeley violated the Clery Act, which requires higher education institutions that receive federal funding to collect, report, and disseminate crime data to the public, support victims of violence, and publicly outline their policies and systems for improving campus safety.
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Where does the RCP stand on ‘Your Party’?
In July, Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana announced the formation of a new political party. That provoked a wave of enthusiasm, with 800,000 people signing up for a left-wing alternative to Starmer’s hated Labour. At that time, the potential for this new party was enormous. It could have given political expression to the pro-Palestine movement and all the strike action erupting across the country. Corbyn and Sultana could also have coordinated opposition to Trump’s state visit to the UK, and to Tommy Robinson’s ‘Unite the Kingdom’ demonstration in September. They could have attacked the rich and the capitalist system as the cause of the crisis in Britain, instead of allowing Farage to dominate with his anti-immigrant rhetoric. They could have raised millions in small donations, like Mamdani in New York, to hold rallies and conferences all over the country. Starting with 800,000 people, if Corbyn and Sultana had connected with the mood that exists in Britain today, they could have been at the head of a movement of millions by now. Unfortunately, we couldn’t be farther from that today.
https://communist.red/where-does-the-rcp-stand-on-your-party/

You Can’t Just Wish Away Jeffrey Epstein’s Israel Ties
It’s not hard to imagine what would happen if the Jeffrey Epstein saga had any other country at its center. If the well-connected billionaire sex trafficker was rumored to have ties to the ruling elite and intelligence agencies of, say, Thailand; if emails showed him repeatedly hosting a Thai intelligence officer at his house; if they showed him doing secret, back-channel work for the Thai government through his friendship with a former Thai prime minister; if in private messages, he claimed that he had been involved in that former prime minister’s return to politics in a recent Thai election, aimed at toppling the country’s sitting leader from power — if any of this happened, it would obviously be a massive scandal that would prompt many more questions about that billionaire’s exact relationship to Thailand and its intelligence agencies, particularly given how close he was with various members of the US elite, including one former president and the one currently in office. It would also no doubt be a major scandal in Thailand itself, iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



 

Spartan society is unique and rare in slave societies through history. The majority of its society was made of slaves: 100 000 Helots, and only around 8000 Spartans. The question naturally arises: How comes the minority rule over the majority?

Humanity is facing a similar situation, power in the hands of a few thousands, yet billions of people can't free themselves. So the question remains: how comes the minority rule over the majority?

David Hume attempted to wisely answer such question:

"Nothing is more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than to see the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and to observe the implicit submission with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers.

When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded."

As such, to change society masses to change opinion. It is, therefore, political education the most important task of the revolutionary.
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>>2564333
>Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy

I'd say it isn't, it just so happens that those who hold power within the state also think highly of morals and values etc. but theoretically the state could do whatever the fuck it wants and it could get away with it

>As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way


that might depend but it doesn't change the fact that thinking about criticism like that is still ideology and love for the system, this sort of theoretical attitude only accepts critique of anything if it has any proof of being succesful without actually considering its arguments (that's the reasoning behind the classic line "what's the alternative though?")

>>2547502
>The majority of its society was made of slaves
That was common i the ancient world. Sparta just had much more and the slaves were greeks.

The Roman proletariat lived at the expense of society, while modern society lives at the expense of the proletariat.

>>2557523
>organization, discipline
The German revolution had those and it still got crushed

>>2572527
Not enough numbers though



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How do you reconcile that this revisionist is responsible for China being the only hope left for socialists? What does China‘s success change about Marxist thought?
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>United action of the leading civilized countries at least is one of the first conditions for the emancipation of the proletariat.
Why is there no united action? People will blame the chinese proletariat for that.

>>2573170
Yeah, all these ultroid bordiggers suddenly become voluntarist when it comes to China. They are so inconsistent man. And they never elaborate.

>>2573080
> What would the late Marx say?
You tell us. Late marx wrote Capital, his critique of poiltical economy but as far as I know never rejected the content of the 1848 Manifesto

>>2573080
lol he gets even more explicit and economic determinist

>>2573064
reminder that he surmised that socialism will likely come about in advance western countries because they had the most advance productive forces and he was writing the communist manifesto with that in mind.
he even says
>These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
this means that the development of the socialist project in a post colonial agrarian countries will not be the same as socialist development in advance western countries. marx's view is not actually rigid as often claim, he mainly gives direction and a method call dialectical materialism. by the end of his life, he even allows for different starting points and uneven development, with his writings in his letters on russia.

when china established a dotp with the founding of the PRC in 1949, it was still agrarian and technologically backwards and far behind the west. its industrial output was tiny and like 1% of its population would even be considered proletariats in the marxist sense. so mao's central goal was to build a strong industrial base that is necessary for socialism in marxist theory as well as modernize society by improving living standards and urbanization.

by the late 1970s, the prc did achieve some basic industrialization and improved the quality of life for its people with a dramatic increase in life expectancy and literacy. however, china still remained overwhelmingly rural with subsistence farming being the norm for most people. there was still limited connectivity between rural areas and industrial centers. most people were living in extreme poverty and they were far behind in living standards to the west as many did not have access to electricity, running water, or modern healthcare.

according to historical materialism, the capitalist phase is considered necessary before socialism. marx even admired capitalism, not morally, but as a historical force in its ability to revolutionize the productive faster than previous modes of production. he also says,
>The bourgeois mode of production is the last antagonistic form of the social process of production but the productive forces developing within bourgeois society create also the material conditions for a solution of this antagonism.

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>be stalin
>fascism is on your doorstep
>uh oh, better go ask the west for an antifascist alliance!
>"FUCKING KILL YOURSELF JEW" or something along those lines is the response from the west
>wow okay uhm
>repeatedly beg the west for a pact against hitler
>nope times ten gorillion
>france and the UK sign non aggression pacts with hitler
>appeasement delimits where hitler can expand
>idea.jpg
>offer non aggression pact with hitler, delimit where he can expand
>hitler actually accepts
>delay the inevitable for an incredibly crucial two years
>7 years later, raise the red flag over berlin, huzzah hitler is gone
>"STALIN WAS AN EVIL FASCIST COLLABORATOR"
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>>2573156
This as well, if the French leadership wasn't full of mongrels then the Soviets could have mobilized and started a front in the East

>>2573408
>Fact is, the Soviets tried to ally with France and Britain to stop the Nazis and they rejected thus
When exactly did this happen? When did France and Britain stop negotiating?

>>2573668
All the time.


>>2573712
The PDF only confirms that the British and French had negotiators in Moscow when Molotov-Ribbentrop was announced. Stalin simply decided that the Nazis were offering him a better deal and he took it



 

Usually people living under communist rule come out as obnoxious anti communist libertarians but she seems more nuanced which is nice

any of you read the book Free: Coming of Age at the End of History

I read an interview or two. The two things that I can remember was how she talked about how the school system was really tough and education was the greatest commodity in communist Albania.

The other thing is how people processed the transition. They were coming out of a situation where you had to be a party member to have any significant career. There was obviously the state security but in fact people bent the rules a lot and so did those guys, so you were working around the system but you knew a guy and he was also bending the rules, and also some of the dissidents themselves could be state spies, and former communists set themselves up as post-communist oligarchs or mafia (or whatever, however it worked in the 1990s) so it wasn't really clear who could be blamed after communism collapsed. So yes, communist Albania did bad things, but it became easier for people to just blame ideology (socialism/communism) and move on, which is unfortunate because capitalism isn't all that it was cracked up to be, and that has benefited right-wing nationalists who have set themselves up as the "alternative" to the status quo.

>prof at London School of Economics
literally MI-6

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Trump moves to name some Muslim Brotherhood chapters 'terrorist organizations'
"This order sets in motion a process by which certain chapters or other subdivisions of the Muslim Brotherhood shall be considered for designation as Foreign Terrorist Organizations," the order said, making specific mention of chapters in Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trump-inches-closer-designating-muslim-brotherhood-foreign-terrorist-organisation

Curfew extended in Syria’s Homs following Bedouin-Alawite clashes: What to know
The Internal Security Command of Homs announced on Telegram that the curfew will remain in place in the south of the province until 5 p.m. local time, affecting the neighborhoods of al-Abbasiya, Armenian, al-Muhajirin, al-Zahraa, Nuzha, Akrama, Nazheen, Ashira, Zaydal, Karm al-Zaytoun, Karm al-Loz, Hay al-Wurud and a police housing area.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/11/curfew-extended-syrias-homs-following-bedouin-alawite-clashes-what-know

Hezbollah mourns Tabatabai in Beirut amid fears of an Israeli escalation
Israel on Sunday struck Lebanon’s capital for the first time since June, saying it killed Tabtabai. Five people were killed in total and 28 others were injured, Lebanon’s Health Ministry said.
https://www.newarab.com/news/hezbollah-mourns-tabatabai-amid-fears-israeli-escalation

Hundreds protest in Tunisia over crackdown on freedoms
The Against Injustice rally brought together families of political detainees and activists from different ideological backgrounds. The demonstration drew more than 1,000 protesters chanting anti-regime slogans, including: “No fear no terror, the street belongs to the people.”
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Realpage agrees to limit data collecting to settle DOJ rental price fixing case
The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with RealPage over allegations it helped landlords fix rents by sharing pricing information through its software, court papers showed on Monday. Under the settlement, Realpage agreed to a three-year monitorship and limits on how it collects and uses non-public data.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/realpage-agrees-limit-data-collecting-settle-doj-rental-price-fixing-case-2025-11-24/

Ford hit again by layoffs as a second major fire erupts at critical aluminum plant in New York state
The company claimed that the latest fire was swiftly contained and the site was made safe. Despite this, the efforts to restore full production have been set back. The hot mill segment, where the incident occurred, was shut down; shipment of finished aluminum sheet was temporarily suspended; and supply to customers such as Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis was disrupted, reported the Detroit Free Press.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/25/rdmr-n25.html

Tyson to Close Major Beef Facility, Shafting 3,000 Workers After Boosting Stock Buybacks
The company said late last week that its decision to shutter the Lexington, Nebraska plant and scale back shifts at its Amarillo, Texas facility is “designed to right size its beef business and position it for long-term success” even as beef prices are close to record highs. The Wall Street Journal reported that Tyson and other meatpackers, which are facing federal scrutiny for allegedly colluding to drive up prices, “have been losing hundreds of millions of dollars processing beef because of the lowest amount of cattle on U.S. pastures since the 1950s.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/tyson-foods-stock-buybacks

Sinclair makes full takeover bid for Scripps
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Who is really behind the ‘Gen Z’ protests in Mexico?
A familiar sight awaited you if you were around the Zocalo of the National Palace of Mexico City on 15 November: One Piece flags, anti-government slogans, and clashes with the police. Has the revolution come? Is Mexico going through a similar uprising to Nepal or Madagascar? But something feels off: the guy holding the flag is 80 – hardly Gen Z. Another is held by a hooded man wearing a huge swastika. The words “Jewish whore,” aimed at President Claudia Sheinbaum, are spray-painted on the National Palace. Vicente Fox, the reactionary ex-president of Mexico, stands beside you in a bad disguise and a One Piece shirt. Almost no young people can be seen for blocks.
What the hell is going on?
https://marxist.com/who-is-really-behind-the-gen-z-protests-in-mexico.htm

Anthem Is Cutting Access to Out-of-Network Doctors
A new policy by the health insurer Anthem will penalize hospitals for using doctors outside of its coverage network. Anthem claims the move is designed to reduce its members’ out-of-pocket costs. But critics argue it will force medical facilities to police physicians’ network status, strong-arm doctors into accepting lower payments from health insurance companies, and could lead to fewer care options for patients. According to the new policy, which will take effect on January 1, Anthem will cut a hospital’s reimbursements by 10 percent whenever the facility submits a claim that includes services from out-of-network providers. Additionally, hospitals that rely on out-of-network service providers will risk “potential termination from Anthem’s networks,” according to Anthem’s notice. The policy will impact plans across eleven states, including Colorado, Georgia, and New Hampshire — all of which are managed by Elevance Health, a multibillion-dollar health company that operates Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans across fourteen states and serves millions of people.
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/anthem-health-insurance-hospitals-coverage

State-Sanctioned Jewish-Mob Terror in the West Bank
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>>2572820
Burma? It hasn't been Burma since the 1980s. Why is the US government so dumb.

TYBNA



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Hail Caesar Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2572770
I remember my street getting locked down and like two helicopters overhead cause some dude mugged a guy in broad daylight and then tried escaping through peoples yards. Tried going to work and some cops had their guns drawn and yelled at me to go inside.

>>2572776
$7 for a hotdog is highway robbery holy shit

>>2572760
>La Costra Nostra
Why would Sicilians say "the our thing"?
It's just "our thing"
The cia added the "la" part.

>>2572776
is there a single person under the age of 25 who understands that you're = you are and your = something that belongs to you?

Why did the new USApol thread got nuked lol



 

>be me
>a part of the italian socialist party
>be pro war
>get kicked out for being pro war
>start retarded new ideolagy
>larp as a roman soilder who will rebuild the roman empire
>join ww2 cuz senpai hitler said so
>get raped by a country 3x smaller than mine
>germans have to carry me the entire war
>people start to revolt
>flee to the north
>get caught
>die
why did any think this retard would ever amount to anything?
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ᴉuᴉlossnW 2.0 award

>>2567333
First as a tragedy…

>>2571369
No idea; could see him trying to play a bunch of different sides. One element of ᴉuᴉlossnW's style of dictatorship was that he could be pretty lenient/opportunistic. In the Cold War he could've been a wildcard; coming up with all kinds of insane schemes where he'd ally with one side in one conflict only to fight on the opposite side in another.

Why did Musso take a picture of himself taking a shit?




 

I can’t be the only comrade worried about this.

Iran, which has been at the forefront of fighting Zionism and global imperialism, may have to relocate millions of people from Tehran in the next few weeks as the capital city faces a massive water crisis. Tehran is running out of water and the only option the government has is to move its people. Iran may very well have to establish a new capital city closer to a water source. This means spending a ton of money the country doesn’t have.

But it doesn’t stop there. The West and the Zios are already taking advantage of this looming disaster. Once Iran is in a state of crisis the CIA will certainly fund a new colour revolution to overthrow the revolutionary Islamic government and replace it with a western puppet, most likely the ousted Shah’s son. The Zionist entity is mocking Iran and “offering” desalinization plants in exchange that the revolutionary government sell out the Palestinian people and recognize the Zionist settler-colony as “legitimate.” This is disgusting. So far, no one else is offering Iran any aid, not even China.

I fear for both the people of Iran and the state of global anti-imperialism because of this.
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President just said they're moving the capital due to the water crisis.

Imagine 8 million people in Tehran mass-migrating.

Did something happen yet?

>>2569703
Is it Ayatollver?


Why do people assume Iran's water situation has anything to do with Iranian support for the Palestinian, Lebanese and Yemeni resistance?



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