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 No.1813461[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Judeo-bolshevism conspiracies are so 20th century, now we blaming communism creation on Islam homies 😎

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
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Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/8/israels-war-on-gaza-live-60000-pregnant-women-face-malnutrition-in-gaza

Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-march-09-2024/ (trigger warning)
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>>1813461
>>1813621
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>>1816182

>This just in…

Zionism is Kosher Fascism

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>>1818588
This is actually quite accurate.
MENA communists literally flipped 180 degrees after the USSR fell to support US liberalism. Only a tiny bit didn't.
From one political idol to another, without the capacity to read and think for themselves mostly.



 No.1816949[Reply]

Palestinian prisoner Walid Daqqah dies in Israeli occupation prison
After spending 38 years imprisoned by the Israeli occupation, the Palestinian revolutionary organizer and thinker, Walid Daqqah died at age 62. Daqqah was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer in December 2022 and also suffered from chronic lung disease. Activists and left groups maintain that Daqqah was killed by intentional medical neglect by Israeli prison authorities.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/04/07/palestinian-prisoner-walid-daqqah-dies-in-israeli-occupation-prison/

After kidnapping, senior Lebanese Forces official found dead in Syria
The kidnapping and subsequent killing of a local official of the Lebanese Forces (LF), one of the largest Christian political parties in Lebanon, over the weekend has caused outrage and sparked sectarian tensions in the country, which is already at a boiling point due to the ongoing conflict between the Shiite Hezbollah paramilitary group and Israel in the south.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/04/after-kidnapping-senior-lebanese-forces-official-found-dead-syria

Clashes reported on Armenia-Azerbaijan border hours after EU support announced
In a statement Saturday, the Armenian Foreign Ministry reported clashes “in many parts of the border” along with “the movement of dozens of military vehicles,” alleging that the neighboring country “has clearly pursued a provocative goal.” However, according to Azerbaijan’s Defense Ministry, Armenian troops have opened fire on its positions more than 30 times since Friday.
https://www.politico.eu/article/clashes-reported-on-armenia-azerbaijan-border-hours-after-eu-support-announced/
https://archive.is/H1NYC

Ally of left-wing PM wins Slovak presidential election
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Biden unveils new plans to ease US student loan debt for millions
The proposal, which Biden unveiled on Monday during a trip to the state of Wisconsin, includes cancelling up to $20,000 of accrued and capitalised interest for borrowers, regardless of income.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/8/biden-unveils-new-plans-to-ease-us-student-loan-debt-for-millions
https://archive.is/WWRz4

Exclusive: groups call for US inquiry into police killing of ‘Cop City’ protester
Human rights groups have filed a petition to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights calling for a US Department of Justice investigation into the police killing of “Cop City” protester Manuel Paez Terán, as well as the release of all related evidence, and apologies to the family from the US government.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/cop-city-tortuguita-human-rights-investigation

Boeing plane engine cover falls off prompting investigation
Southwest Airlines said its maintenance teams would review the Boeing 737-800 after its cowling, which covers the plane's engine, fell off. The airline confirmed it was responsible for maintenance of such parts. "We apologise for the inconvenience of their delay, but place our highest priority on ultimate safety for our customers and employees," a statement said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68758088

Off-duty NYPD officer allegedly punched wife in Brooklyn, arrested: police
Police say Boiragee got in an argument with his wife that turned physical when Boiragee allegedly struck her arm with a closed fist. On Sunday, he pleaded not guilty to assault and harassment charges, court records show.
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Episode 367: High Weirding (Part 1) TrueAnon
We join Erik Davis, scholar of the weird and esoteric, in his home for a long conversation about California ideological supremacy, crazy trips, the history of LSD, and his forthcoming book Blotter: The Untold Story of an Acid medium.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/high-weirding-1

The West Papua National Liberation Army and Separatist Militancy in Indonesia
A Brief History: Given the history of the Papuan provinces, it is no surprise that the conditions are ripe for insurgency. The provinces, which are collectively referred to as West Papua by pro-independence elements, were taken over by Indonesia following the Dutch withdrawal in the 1960s. Indonesia’s takeover was supported by the United States and other Western powers, who were trying to assert global dominance against the spread of communism in Indonesia and Southeast Asia. These dynamics led to the formation of the Organisasi Papua Merdeka (OPM), or the Free Papua Movement. Papuan calls for independence have only strengthened since the 1960s due to several factors. These include various allegations of human rights abuses by Indonesian forces, the exploitation of resources in the Papuan provinces, and the ethnic and religious differences between Papuans and the rest of Indonesia. There is a high degree of racism towards Papuans in Indonesia; this was the main factor in the 2019 unrest in West Papua and Indonesia. There are several more reasons why the insurgency has brewed in the Papuan provinces; these have been well documented by others.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/post/2024/04/07/the-west-papua-national-liberation-army-and-separatist-militancy-in-indonesia/

Is ‘artificial intelligence’ a threat or a promise?
POPULAR debate over the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) tends to be couched in terms of utopias or dystopias. Will AI lead to some benign post-capitalist paradise — “fully automated luxury communism” perhaps, or to a hellish “technofeudalism”? The answer of course is probably neither (though, yes, capitalism could get even worse!). PolicyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

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TYBNA

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i love you news anon



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 No.1819702[Reply]

Oh no, Russian FSB has declassified more documents about Nazi falsifications about Katyn https://tass.ru/obschestvo/20515213

How can Katyn denialists ever recover?

MOSCOW, April 11. /tass/. The FSB Directorate for the Smolensk Region has declassified archival documents on crimes committed by the Nazis in the region during the Great Patriotic War, including materials on the executions of Poles and the falsification of the Katyn Case by German special services.

The TASS correspondent got acquainted with copies of documents submitted to the OGKU "State Archive of the Modern History of the Smolensk region" within the framework of the project "Without limitation period".

The archive includes information, intelligence and special reports of the Smersh counterintelligence dated 1944-1945. A significant part of the documents are the interrogation protocols of Poles who served with the Germans in the Smolensk region, the forensic medical expert of the Budapest City Royal Court, Imre Sechody, a member of the commission investigating the murder of Polish officers in the Katyn forest, Boleslav Smektal and others involved.

For example, a native of Poland, Eduard Potkansky, who served in a workers' battalion formed by the Germans from Poles in a camp at the Krasny Bor station in the Smolensk region, said that in the summer of 1943, the Germans decided to show the participants of the workers' battalion the graves of Polish officers in the Katyn forest. Grave graves," Potkansky recalled, "According to the Germans, there were up to 12 thousand Polish officers who were shot, and up to 3 thousand more people are in another place, and these graves have not yet been opened."

According to him, officers' belongings, Polish money, personal letters and documents of the executed officers were lying near the graves. "All these things, and especially personal documents and money, were in such a form in which they could not have been preserved in the ground since 1939 (when, according to Nazi statements, NKVD officers shot Polish officers - approx. TASS). The money, for example, was still brand new and did not seem to be in circulation," the Pole noted.

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 No.1820084

Current russia is imperialist.

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>>1820063
wouldn't them using tor (or i2p) imply that they are doing more work than you guys? they put more effort into being anonymous to slowly organize without getting stopped or sabotaged by the current state

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>>1820063
I would have said the opposite. Dengbeetle activity surged along with american hours

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>>1820116
torchads are always one step ahead
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>>1819758
>>1819702
I'm the same person, though. You are grossly misrepresenting my position

>>1820051
>enlightened bothsidism

Middle ground between a truth and a lie is a lie



 No.1817871[Reply]

Broadband internet connection and algorithmic content curation has realized Zbigniew Brzezinski's vision of TITTYTAINMENT. Videobinging, excessive videogaming, gooning. Zbiggy was already talking about it many, many years ago. The ruling class needs a way to pacify the masses, now the technology is here. Welcome to the future.
>Uh, just let people enjoy things!
Ok, but keep in mind, why this all stuff actually exists.
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 No.1819297

I do think sometimes what useful info I would know or talents Id have if I hadnt spent most of my youth gaming. I kinda envy kids today since games are such shit now, you're better off playing on a little or not at all

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>>1819297
Gamers never die, they respawn

 No.1819318

I won't have you defame gigantic tits they're the only things that keep me sane and alive.

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>>1819292
Please take your meds

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>>1819292
this is a good post

>>1820463
this is a reddit post



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 No.1819572[Reply]

I don’t mean by its original definition. We need to be like cuntservatives and just start calling everything we don’t like WOKE so we can steal it from them and basically turn it into a neutral word. For example:

Imperialism=WOKE
Cops=WOKE
US military=WOKE
NATO=WOKE
Israel=WOKE
USA=WOKE
Founding Fathers=WOKE
Proud Boys=WOKE
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 No.1820352

Idpol=Woke

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Thinktank thread

 No.1820357

Thais thread is so moid lol

 No.1820359

I've heard people say "woke" so much that now it just sounds to me like the vocalization of some slimy swamp creature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation

 No.1820515

>the left
No.



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 No.1817030[Reply]

What did he mean by this?

>Chairman Mao: Those questions are not questions to be discussed in my place. They should be discussed with the Premier. I discuss the philosophical questions. That is to say, I voted for you during your election. There is an American here called Mr. Frank Coe, and he wrote an article precisely at the time when your country was in havoc, during your last electoral campaign. He said you were going to be elected President. I appreciated that article very much. But now he is against the visit.


<President Nixon: When the President says he voted for me, he voted for the lesser of two evils.


>Chairman Mao: I like rightists. People say you are rightists, that the Republican Party is to the right, that Prime Minister Heath is also to the right.


<President Nixon: And General DeGaulle.


>Chairman Mao: DeGaulle is a different question. They also say the Christian Democratic Party of West Germany is also to the right. I am comparatively happy when these people on the right come into power.
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>>1819750
>Mao tended to like his enemies
One of the traits I like about him. He didn't like to belittle his enemies and would call Chiang "our common old friend" when talking to Nixon and Kissinger. Like "we insult him, he insults us, eh!" When people would say his writings are great he'd be, like, "nah, none of that stuff is any good."

<Dr. Kissinger: I used to assign the Chairman's collective writings to my classes at Harvard.


<Chairman Mao: Those writings of mine aren't anything. There is nothing instructive in what I wrote. (Looking toward photographers) Now they are trying to interrupt our meeting, our order here.


<President Nixon: The Chairman's writings moved a nation and have changed the world.


<Chairman Mao: I haven't been able to change it- I’ve only been able to change a few places in the vicinity of Peking. Our common old friend, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek [Jiang Jieshi], doesn’t approve of this. He calls us communist bandits. He recently issued a speech. Have you seen it?


<President Nixon: Chiang Kai-shek calls the Chairman a bandit. What does the Chairman call Chiang- Kai-shek?


<Prime Minister Chou: Generally speaking we call them Chiang Kai-shek's clique. In the newspapers sometimes we call him a bandit: we are also called bandits in turn. Anyway, we abuse each other.

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 No.1820135

because right wingers are unironically easier to deal with than amerikaner liberals who are bitchy and always want to get up in your business and tell you how to run things. the soviets preferred dealing with republicans over dems for the same reason. blinken goes to china. he tells chinese "you gotta embrace lib democracy. you gotta pass a womans rights act. you gotta make lgbt culture law and open a dozen gay bars. you gotta allow our companies unrestricted access. you gotta stop building planes. you have to learn better english. also you need to stop putting unforms on kids at skool. how come you dont play football? you need a chinese NFL now" etc. liberal internationalists are like roman diplomats but even gayer and more insulting.

>>1820120
>He didn't like to belittle his enemies and would call Chiang "our common old friend" when talking to Nixon and Kissinger. Like "we insult him, he insults us, eh!" When people would say his writings are great he'd be, like, "nah, none of that stuff is any good."
thats because mao was from a very traditional background. he new classical chinese and read all the classics. he was old fashioned in that way. in traditional confucian culture your not supposed to belittle your enemies or draw attention to yourself and your supposed to put your own work down and act like your not a big deal. mao was educated. unlike know nothing lenin and stalin and the trot. never completed their education.

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>>1820135
Why is your name "Lolitron"?

 No.1820163

>>1820155
why is your name anonymous?

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>>1820155
nice dubs btw



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 No.1819964[Reply]

The prevalence of opportunism and reformism is primarily due to the extremely large middle class which forms the majority of the population in the West (and possibly in China as well) today. As capitalism develops the proletariat declines as a relative % of society, on the other hand an enormous petit-bourgeois mass is created in order to realize surplus-value for capital. It is a buffer between the two classes, it increases the power and security of the bourgeoisie.

When faced with critical periods, as in recent times, the middle class must find a crutch to rely upon, to find a lifeline to avoid being proletarianized. This it does by recruiting proletarians to fight for its cause, since it is impotent on its own. This is what leftism is, a guise for middle-class elements to ideologically delude the proletarian class in order to use it to pass reforms that will save the petit-bourgeois from doom by preserving its small capital (via welfare, free services, regulations on larger firms etc). All pseudo-communists (the various 'communist parties', the 'democratic' sects like DSA/MUG, all these anarchists and Berniebro-type socdems, Labourists etc) are agents of the middle class, their sole aim is to use the proletariat as a prop for PB interests, even if unknowingly.

This is the source of opportunism and impotence within the proletarian movement, it is the reason why no successful genuine communism has taken hold within the western proletariat. Only when this polluting influence is recognized and shaken off, will anything proceed forward.

 No.1820005

>today
But Glownonymous, Theories of Surplus Value is over 150 years old and not really a finished work. Whenever there is tension between that one and Capital Volume I, which Marx did publish after all, you should go with the latter.

 No.1820012

So what exactly is your policy prescription? How do you intend to move forward?

 No.1820607

>>1820012
OP's goal is anti class-struggle FUD by using some out-of-context quotes by Marx that are in conflict with what he and Engels usually said about the polarizing of society into two classes.

OP claimed:
>the extremely large middle class which forms the majority of the population in the West (and possibly in China as well) today.

Compare what OP wrote with how Engels defined proletariat:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
<The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital…

Sounds like the majority to me.



 No.1801409[Reply]

Many are increasingly waking up to the fact that a "two state solution", which imperialists have been trying to shove down the throats of the Palestinian people for years, does nothing but legitimize and reward Zionist colonialism, while denying the right to return for Palestinians violently driven out of their Homeland by the ZioFascist marauders and denying a democratic voice to the Palestinian people. Unfortunately, the alternative that many of them have embraced is a "single democratic binational state" for both the indigenous Palestinians and the descendants of the racist colonizers, who will have equal rights in this "democratic" Palestine. This is alleged to be an "anticolonial" and "socially just" solution, and people insist that when they say "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" this is what they mean.

The reality is that this "solution", no less than the two-state solution, rewards the genocidal Zionist colonizers and hideously equates their "rights" with those of their victims, while denying the right of the Indigenous population to decide who can live on their land. Furthermore, it violates the right of return: how can there be a viable right to return when the homes stolen from Palestinians are being squatted by "Israeli" colonizers? And if this one-state solution is "democratic", can't "Israeli" colonizers just bring more of their co-ethnics to Palestine to outnumber and out vote the indigenous population, and restore Zionist fascist control? Furthermore, given that 98% of "Israelis" hold genocidal ethno-supremacist views to which they are fanatically committed, the idea that they will suddebly have a change of heart and peacefully agree to such a solution in the first place is UTTERLY preposterous!

In reality, there is only solution: for the Palestinian people to wage a fanatical struggle to the death against the colonizers, with the unconditional support and solidarity of all the world's anti-imperialist fighting peoples, after which the Zionist colonizers will be given the same ultimatum that the French "pieds-noirs" were given by the Algerian freedom fighters upon their victory: the suitcase or the coffin! The Zionists must be driven out of all of Palestine, dead or alive, and the one state solution will be a free and socialist Palestine for the indigenous Palestinians. From the river to the see, Palestine will be free, and it's time we stop cucking out and actually MEAN that.
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>>1819488
You are deeply retarded to think the two are equivalent. The mere fact that you put a question mark at „economic relations“ is very telling on its own. Where do you think you are?

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>>1819487
he's real tho

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How would a two-state even work? When has Israel ever respected borders? Anyone still advocating or believing in a two-state solution is either malicious, ignorant or desperate.

It's also morally the wrong thing to do imo, but that's debatable, I guess

 No.1819797

>>1801409
>In reality, there is only solution: for the Palestinian people to wage a fanatical struggle to the death against the colonizers,

This is death cultism.

 No.1823119

best solution? single atheist workers state



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 No.1796726[Reply]

What could happen if harassment of Nazis became normalized?
What case studies are relevant, and what are their limitations?

In many places in the West, we see neo-fash orgs performing both unannounced 'flash-mob' marches, and police-protected protests. As dorky as they look, these still make a statement - we're publicly fascist and not being hurt. It's ok.
But sometimes, these don't go as planned. Antifascist groups frequently infiltrate their communications or have a local network ready to quickly react and counterprotest. And sure, on a regular good day they'll embarrass the fash more than they're doing themselves, deal financial damage by smashing their vehicles, maybe even get an assault in, but this requires organization and dedication. Ideally, this could be complimented by normalized, casual antifascism, creating an environment where it's not safe to be a Nazi outside.

But that's not easy when police will protect them, and make no mistake, that is not an inevitability. Take the example of when the British Union of Fascists went to Brighton, where police weren't sympathetic and basically just sent one cop, letting antifascists like the 43 Group throw bricks at them and beat them up. Or take examples where there are enough aggressive counter-protesters to make police aggression futile - you can only arrest so many people (safety in numbers is a real tactic used in known illegal actions like blockades). Furthermore, there are examples where nazis appear before police do (take the NSN arriving to a demonstration early in an attempt to avoid antifascists) or where they act as individuals performing stunts or wolfwhistling.
In these cases, nazis can be mobbed not just by antifascist activists but by normal citizens, with legal consequence being the only real chilling factor.
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>>1819423
No offense, this opinion reeks incredibly of Neo-Liberalism, and I'm an anarchist myself. Its not like mainstream opinion was perfeclty middle-ground between the Left and Right, there has "always" been a wedge towards the Right in issues, due to the lingering effects of redscare and the general overton window being slightly-right. A couple twitterfags punching retirees based btw is bad? I guess for the look of "Antifa", but its important to note there is no Antifa, this is a reactionary notion to create a boogyman of twitterfags who put on black masks and LARP as red warriors like the Weatherman, when in reality there is no centralized Antifa, on the same levels of a centralized effort such as Proud Boys. Returning to the point, this violence you allege did not just suddenly turn everyone pro-fascist, likely is they were already pro-fascist to begin with, the fascists just look more like typical Americans than twitterfags ever did. They wear suits and have dogwhisltes and speak in dumbed down, emotional tones to suede further support to their cause.

 No.1819619

>>1796781
follow your leader(kys)

 No.1819626

>>1819423
The libertarian, fascist, capitalist, and anarchist one side tugging against a worker/communist would make the stonetoss meme accurate.

 No.1819675

>>1819626
source? or is this just ad-hominem gibberish, because i remember a certain Spanish Civil War inwhich the opposite was true, Stalin funding the nationalists against the CNT-FAI

 No.1819742

>>1819675
My bad, forgot to add Stalinists



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 No.1817225[Reply]

I really want socialism to work, believe me. We all have a vested interest in it working, for the working class to liberate itself. But seeing online economists arguments being so strong and never seeing leftists being able to counter them in arguments make me disillusioned. It also feels like when it comes to economics rather than philosophy or ethics, many leftists seem to be anti intellectual in that area. Socialism and Communism are economic systems, so its good if you can make a good argument based on exploitation about it, but its really important that it can stand by its own merits in an economical sense as well.

All the results we have in real world are state capitalist dictatorships, anarchist communes that lasted 5 years, small communist communes that don't have problems with logistics and industrial machinery and complex industry to worry about, and such. Lots of ideologies are untested, so for a rational individual to back it, it needs to be tested if it works in the first place at all. Even then, economists who are professionals state that market socialism will not work, and I'm inclined to trust their beliefs more than the average leftist online who is not a professional economist.

There is lots of propaganda out there that supports capitalism and the ruling class. However, as flawed as it may be and as much as I dislike the system and prefer the idea of Socialism to it, it seems Capitalism will be very hard to remove and to displace. It's very sad to look at past history, how hopeful people were (Mao I think of in particular back before he became a dictator) when they were first starting the first socialist countries, and to see how it played out and to see the authoritarianism take hold. I really love the idea of socialism and communism and a more collectivist system, and I wish we will eventually have some alternative to capitalism that will replace it. Hopefully, Socialist or not, that alternative will come.
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>>1819567
Just looking at Pyongyang isn't really representative of NK

 No.1819610

>authoritarianism
Unironic usage of this word is the ultimate indication that you haven't had your brain washed properly yet, as you still cling to liberal bougie ideals of individualistic freedom that do not exist outside of dreams. I recommend actually reading up about how the progression of history has taken place in the ways OTHER THAN what has been prescribed through liberal propaganda.

From there you will begin to understand what can actually be done and how to do it, and cease bemoaning of the horrible state of everything in the same way that liberals bemoan increasing illberalness.

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>>1819610
I like the idea of freedom and socialism at the same time. I think repression and secret police are bad but you don't necessarily have to support them to be a communist.

 No.1819617

>>1819613
Repression of the bourgeoisie is absolutely necessary to mantain the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. It's not a matter of morality or aesthetic preference, it's not optative, it's a condition for its existence.
>I like the idea of freedom
Should I have the freedom to rape you, your parents, your siblings, and your future children? Should I have the freedom to behead negros on the street? Should I have the freedom to enslave you under the threat of violence or deprivation of food? These are all freedoms, I don't see why someone shouldn't be allowed to do those if they posses this so calles "freedom". I might not be a sociopath but someone else on this Earth is, and they'll do worse under material incentives.

 No.1819659

>>1817225
Since I do empathize with the feelings that led to your post, I felt like sharing a brief reading list on these economic questions of socialism. Do keep in mind that being persuaded and understanding something are two separate things, but ignoring this dialectical process is equally dangerous. You may have some of these texts, but they may be useful to the other anons.
The first text should act as a short primer on what informed the soviet and chinese productive experiments; if you feel like focusing immediately on the economic subject you should read part IV of the book n°5 now, "Economics of Socialism". These two amount to roughly 80 pages (20+60) and two hours of time, since I understand how hard delving into something so deep can be if you don't know where to start.
The second is a general overview of the urss's economic history as a reference point for what can be done today.
After setting the stage of the past, the last three texts are concerned with the near future from two different perspectives: the AES examples of east asia in the third and Cockshott's analysis of contemporary implementation of planning in the last two.



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