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THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM

As a supporter of the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, I obviously realize that the Democrats are a Controlled Opposition Party who exist to keep the Workers and Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of Naw Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, inside the U$ corralled and controlled, while the dominant ruling Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans transform the U$ into a Full-Blown Fascist Police State, which combined with the fact that the U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American population like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police, as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists as stipulated by Lenin’s principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR, which will happen once World War III escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted, with the former U$ Balkanized into a New African SSR that includes the Black/New Afrikan majority counties of the Black Belt, a Hispano-American SFSR that includes the Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo majority counties in the U$ Southwest, along with the rest of the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas, while the White Settler majority regions in the rest of the former U$ becomes part of the Anglo-American SFSR, which also includes the English-speaking provinces of Canada, as Quebec will become its own SSR, with all the Native American reservations becoming ASSRs) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2382579
The fact that this spam isn't getting banned on sight is proof that it's in fact the pb revisionist mods astroturfing to make a mockery out of revolutionary Marxism (which would correspond to the self-interest of their class position, enriching themselves on us as well as chinese stocks).
Dont forget to send your money and bank details to them as they vilify anonymity / tor usage! Trustworthy faceless lot running the site like a telegram honeypot. Great stuff.

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>>2524854
You have the right to think what you want about me Comrade, but I would kindly advise you that Instead of making wild unsubstantiated Conspiratorial claims about me absurdly being a “sock puppet” of the Mods, you would accept that this website is not a mere Echo chamber and that not everybody has to embrace Khrushchevite/Dengist Revisionist Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Capitalist Roader Marcyite Campism, and it would also be really nice if you could clearly articulate what is exactly wrong with my Thread about my “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform”, like, if you actually look at my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist with an open mind, you would realize that my Maoist praxis makes perfect sense that as long as Maoist PPW is not viable in the Material Conditions of the Imperial Core (Maoist PPW will not be viable in the Imperial Core until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended with these events being connected and probably happening around the same time, while Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru), Social Democracy should be critically supported (The U$ Democrats are the Lesser Evil Controlled Opposition to the Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist Theocratic MAGAtard Republicans within the Bourgeois Liberal Demcoratic U$ Political System in the same manner Social Democratic/State Capitalist Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Dengist China is the Lesser Evil Controlled Opposition to U$ Imperialist Hegemony within the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System), their in order to prevent the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World from being crushed before the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the Map I posted) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRACK

>>2524854
Also, I forgot to mention that “Tor” is a CIA/NSA/FBI Honeypot created by U$ Naval Intelligence, so I don’t think I need to say anymore about the merits of viewing “Tor” as some kind of “Anonymous” Internet, when in reality their are ZERO websites on the Internet that are not fully accessible to Glowies because the entire Internet itself emerged out of the U$ Military ARPANET project, so I would strongly advise for the sake of yourself, your friends, your family, and everyone else on this website (myself included), that you not fall for Glowie Honeypots like “Tor” that lure gullible Leftists into foolishly incriminating themselves with Illiterate Fedposting , 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2525618
I am a Maoist, not a Democrat, but as much as you don’t want to admit it, a proper Dialectical Materialist analysis still reveals that a Controlled Opposition is better then No Opposition, and as we see on the International Stage that China is a “Controlled Opposition” to U$ Imperialism in the same way that the U$ Democrats are “Controlled Opposition” to the Republicans, thus making China the “Global Democrats”, with the massive caveat that a Maoist faction taking over the CCP and purging the Dengists could place China back in the Socialist Mode of Production on the Shining Path to Communism without another Maoist PPW there, though despite this fact both China (Iran is another example of a Lesser Evil Controlled Opposition) and the U$ Democrats should be “Critically Supported”, not because we genuinely support these Bourgeois entities, but because they are both a “Lesser Evil” faction of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System who De Facto prevent the “Greater Evil” of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System from completely crushing the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World before the World Maoist PPW can be successful when the Global Nuclear War breaks out, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2523426
Comrade, what do you think of my responses to your critique of my “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform” at >>2524486 , 🤔?



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>>2530466
Shouldn't mods be able to ban you now, now that you've forgot your TOR node?

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>>2530466
Yes, they possess smartphones yet they still have rivers polluted with innumerable plastic trash and human shit and live surrounded by much of the same. I dropped street view on a random spot in India and got this, Iphones != poverty reduction

>>2530860
The expansion of internet access and consumer electronics in India is just to distract them from how shit their material reality is with online entertainment or flame wars, unironically that's what the Modi government is doing.

This always happens with democracies, they go with the easiest path to appease the people in the short term because all a ruling democratic party cares about is getting elected another term so they can keep stuffing their pockets with corruption money from various useless projects.

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>>2532063



 

Sooo…….Do you support making drugs legal?
To what limit and why or why not?

Whether for recreational purposes or sale, And how to combat substance abuse and life ruin caused by addiction and children's access to them if they're made fully legal.
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Yes I want fent to be legal so more people can die

>>2530142
That would probably lower the death count tho

>>2530139
in socialism there is even less reason to criminalize drug use, the problems of drug use spreading through a population will always be less severe than the power struggle between the people selling those drugs illegally.

also life under socialism will be better, people may be able to experiment with drugs from curiosity and not from a desire to cope from the shittyness of life

>>2507952
in my state we're back to smoke shops just selling 4sub tryptamines like its the 2000s or sum shit. tbh its kinda fire that I can just go buy 4-aco-dmt gummies down the street.

nope



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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2529419
>GIC
What's that?

>>2528370
>Schwab
You intended to be sarcastic. I'm sorry, but it falls a bit flat.
File one.
>>2529436
That's not what central planning in the context of Marxism is.
File two.

Wake up, comrades.

>>2529643
MZT is a dead ideology, much like Karl Marx Thought is. Marxism is constantly evolving, so it is no surprise that the CPC is as well
>That's not what central planning in the context of Marxism is.
the word "planning" has multiple meanings. the CPC has rejected the old method of planning. that doesn't mean it has rejected planning. there are new methods of planning yet to be implemented
what we will need to do is come up with is methods to fully centralize planning. this was not possible in the 1920's, nor in the 1950's, when the USSR and the PRC respectively instituted their planning systems. these were systems of the old kind. they were highly decentralized. they used aggregate indicators and disaggregation of arrived at allocations to make the planning process tractable. today we would not do this. today we have the IT necessary to 1) fully centralize planning and to 2) fully disaggregate planning. we would also not cuck to exchange by substituting planning with exchange as the Liberman reforms did. attempts at doing so must be combated
despite the call for disaggregation above, there will unavoidably be many goals set in aggregate terms. it is not possible for any decision body to decide on every little detail everywhere. what we can do is set goals like "increase rail transport capability by 50% by 2030". this is an aggregate constraint. the details of this would need to be handled by railway workers. but said details must also go into the one, single, global, centralized planning system, so that the exact need for say steel for rails can be checked against production capabilities and against environmental constraints and so on. the long term effects of say concrete vs wooden sleepers must be evaluated against this singular planning system. any attempt at "decentralizing" such a process always amounts to exchange

can we out-compete capitalism somehow using cybernetics? kind of like the bourgeoisie did with capitalism?

>>2529887
there is potential to create something that is better at regulating production than capitalism is. Capital has various blind spots. Capital also likes to create crises



 

Socialism and communism are not modes of production, they're social orders. The mode of production is capitalism and the next mode of production will be full automation in the transition from semi-automation by the fourth industrial revolution. The feuds and the slave owners and the previous modes of production never did the change consciously and neither did the bourgeois when they brought capitalism, they simply developed as much as they could until they changed, they were not a 200 year movement of trying to consciously enact change, think social darwinism.
Anyway the USSR is the loser and ML failed, Dengism won, when the realpolitik geopolitics and all the blablabla is over and China has won the world it will lead towards full automation.
And you only say full automation is impossible because you misinterpret it, you're like those conservative crackers that say communism isnt possible or its utopian, well too bad you're gonna get fucked in the ass one way or another, sucks for you you wont get to live to see that I'm right.
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In the agrarian society the land is the means of production, the owner of the land controls the means of production and owns or rents slaves/serfs to work the land, who do not control the means of production. But the slaves/serfs could potentially revolt and take over the land and seize the means of production.

In the industrial capitalist society factories and machinery and tools are the means of production and the factory owner hires workers who do not control the means of production. But the workers could potentially revolt and take over the factory and seize the means of production.

In the fully automated high-tech society, intellectual property is the means of production and the company owner needs no human resources at all and their control over the means of production is absolute. There are no workers to seize the means of production and even if there were, there's no way to seize intellectual property.

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>AYN RAND IS A FUCKING COMMIEEEEEE

Why don't we just run electricity through the plumbing system and see what happens? Water is conductive, why the need for cables? We could get electricity with pipes instead.

>>2530240
Aka why you have to get to socialism first, no? The entire reason I sell ML and AI work is because ML and AI are now the means of production to seize. Before it, at porky command, kills us all.



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More than 2,500 “No Kings” protests are being held on October 18 throughout the US, in every major city and many smaller towns, as well as in other countries. The Socialist Equality Party supports these demonstrations and calls for the broadest possible participation. The last “No Kings” demonstrations, on June 14, attracted upwards of 10 million people in what is believed to have been the largest single-day political protest in American history.

These demonstrations are taking place under conditions of a mounting conspiracy by the Trump administration to establish a presidential dictatorship. In the days leading up to October 18, administration officials and leading Republicans denounced the protests as a “hate America rally,” branded demonstrators as “terrorists” and threatened to launch investigations against those organizing them. The White House is also preparing to invoke the Insurrection Act, which would give Trump sweeping powers to deploy the military throughout the United States under his direct command.

National Guard troops have already been deployed to major American cities, including Washington D.C., Chicago, Los Angeles, Portland and Memphis. In Chicago, the third-largest city in the country, residents face daily assaults by a combination of police, ICE and Department of Homeland Security agents, while National Guard forces have arrived in preparation for further action.

The language coming from the White House is the language of civil war. Trump has called for the military to be used against the “enemy within.” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller has described even the Democratic Party as a “domestic extremist organization.” Trump has opened up the White House to neo-Nazis, Christian nationalists and far-right propagandists, who are openly plotting the abolition of democratic rights.

What is unfolding is not a temporary aberration or a passing episode. There will be no “return to normal.” With the Trump administration, the American ruling class is breaking with constitutional forms of rule.

The decisive question is: What is to be done? How can Trump’s coup be defeated?

The October 18 demonstrations express deep hostility to the Trump administration’s efforts to set up a fascistic dictatorship in the United States. The central slogan, “No Kings,” articulates vast popular hostility to autocracy, (though we would add to it, in the present-day context of the neo-Nazi programPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2528063
See I'm not sure if "riots" are the answer. I think what would be needed (hypothetically, of course, NSA) is leadership that could steer a generic "riot" into something with political bite. Shit like actually taking territory and sectioning it off, declaring a "people's government" or what have you. Generic property damage and violence isn't the answer, ideally things would remain peaceful, but it'd be a stark declaration that you wont be governed by the Trump regime any further.

>>2529896
>Shit like actually taking territory and sectioning it off, declaring a "people's government" or what have you.
this is much more dangerous than "Generic property damage and violence" though, thats straight separatism and is ample justification for the state to use all his means including its armed forces

>>2529896
>leadership to steer
wtf is Joe Sims doing then?

>>2529687
you would have sex with the young fertile hourglass figure 2D waifu drawings? Wowzers what a controversial opinion!!!!

>>2530187
>Wowzers what a controversial opinion!!!!
On this site it is somehow



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Has anyone here ever read Stirner’s works cover to cover? Do you think they suffer from mistranslation? I became an egoist anarchist when I was 18. But I do not read German very well and found that I got confused by a lot of the writing. The strangest was not being able to parse the writing because of its poetic nature. Take this as an example:
>Where could one look without meeting victims of self-renunciation? There sits a girl opposite me, who perhaps has been making bloody sacrifices to her soul for ten years already. Over the buxom form droops a deathly-tired head, and pale cheeks betray the slow bleeding away of her youth. Poor child, how often the passions may have beaten at your heart, and the rich powers of youth have demanded their right! When your head rolled in the soft pillow, how awakening nature quivered through your limbs, the blood swelled your veins, and fiery fancies poured the gleam of voluptuousness into your eyes! Then appeared the ghost of the soul and its eternal bliss. You were terrified, your hands folded themselves, your tormented eye turned its look upward, you—prayed. The storms of nature were hushed, a calm glided over the ocean of your appetites. Slowly the weary eyelids sank over the life extinguished under them, the tension crept out unperceived from the rounded limbs, the boisterous waves dried up in the heart, the folded hands themselves rested a powerless weight on the unresisting bosom, one last faint "Oh dear!" moaned itself away, and—the soul was at rest. You fell asleep, to awake in the morning to a new combat and a new—prayer. Now the habit of renunciation cools the heat of your desire, and the roses of your youth are growing pale in the—chlorosis of your heavenliness. The soul is saved, the body may perish! O Lais, O Ninon, how well you did to scorn this pale virtue! One free grisette against a thousand virgins grown gray in virtue!
The first time I read it, I thought it was about Stirner perving on a teen girl.
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>>2527726
This is an interpretation I favoured for some time, but I think it is unlikely that Stirner was entirely anti-Hegelian. Stirner still defends his work after the fact, even in the text you pull that quote from, including its structure and logic.

It doesn't really make much sense to suggest that Stirner wrote the entire work, some 340 pages in my copy, just to show that philosophy is a trick that can prove anything. He believes most of what is said

>>2527726
>This monotonousness and abstract universality are maintained to be the Absolute. This formalism insists that to be dissatisfied therewith argues an incapacity to grasp the standpoint of the Absolute, and keep a firm hold on it. If it was once the case that the bare possibility of thinking of something in some other fashion was sufficient to refute a given idea, and the naked possibility, the bare general thought, possessed and passed for the entire substantive value of actual knowledge; similarly we find here all the value ascribed to the general idea in this bare form without concrete realisation; and we see here, too, the style and method of speculative contemplation identified with dissipating and, resolving what is determinate and distinct, or rather with hurling it down, without more ado and without any justification, into the abyss of vacuity. To consider any specific fact as it is in the Absolute, consists here in nothing else than saying about it that, while it is now doubtless spoken of as something specific, yet in the Absolute, in the abstract identity A = A, there is no such thing at all, for everything is there all one. To pit this single assertion, that “in the Absolute all is one”, against the organised whole of determinate and complete knowledge, or of knowledge which at least aims at and demands complete development – to give out its Absolute as the night in which, as we say, all cows are black – that is the very naïveté of emptiness of knowledge.

>The formalism which has been deprecated and despised by recent philosophy, and which has arisen once more in philosophy itself, will not disappear from science, even though its inadequacy is known and felt, till the knowledge of absolute reality has become quite clear as to what its own true nature consists in. Having in mind that the general idea of what is to be done, if it precedes the attempt to carry it out, facilitates the comprehension of this process, it is worth while to indicate here some rough idea of it, with the hope at the same time that this will give us the opportunity to set aside certain forms whose habitual presence is a hindrance in the way of speculative knowledge.

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>>2511289
>Anyone attempting to read Stirner without being familiar with Hegel is a genuine retard.
How familiar before I read Stirner I only read Hegel's "Philosophy of History" and "History of Philosophy". And I felt like I understood all the main points Stirner made. I read the Unique and His Property Translation.

>>2510613
I would say its about toiling for these so-called spooks (like religion for example) instead for yourself.

>>2527791
>hates monochromatic formalism
<proceeds to create a form of philosophy that’s parroted by the most banal fat reactionaries on twitter, clout chasing college girls, and sniffling coke heads defending the Ukrainian war.
Curious



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There's multiple competing narratives about Americans. Two of the more prominent narratives on here that come to mind are:

1. Americans know everything their government has done, and the consequences, but they keep supporting their government anyway, because they're all fascist labor aristocrats and petty bourgeoisie drunk from drinking the blood of the exploited nations

2. Americans are clueless retard hamburger people who can't even locate the last country they invaded on a map, and don't even know what the phrase "CIA coup" implies, let alone sanctions, embargoes, structural adjustment programs, etc.

Are either of the above narratives true? Are they false? Are they oversimplified? Are they mutually exclusive? Is there some other narrative you prefer?
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Scapegoating the lazy stupid obese uneducated American working class is such a middle class bourgeosie limousine liberal tactic. It absolves them of any guilt or accountability, everything is the stupid poor people's fault. It is standard operating procedure of the middle-management to always blame everything on their subordinates, shit always rolls downhill.

From personal experience, it's the latter.

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>>2525301
>what year was the US founded
<1995
>who did we gain our independence from
<korea

>>2525428
wrong, burgers are like a completely different species or something, i am very smart

>>2526277
Homo Burgericus



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>Now these are serious crimes that Washington has levied against a sovereign state… and we have to remember that is the United States who disrupted the democratically elected governments of these regions… and I myself have met officials of these governments, and personally, I wasn't their strongest supporter by any means, in fact, my criticisms exist in the record… but it's completely not what the mainstream media is painting them as… your listeners only have to spend some time on this to see how much of a blatant lie the United States has peddled, I mean…
>One need only look at the literature… I mean, it's really quite astounding, when one merely acquaints oneself with what's out there… it's a complete falsity, I'm afraid, and these war aims, I mean, they're overwhelmingly fabricated, and none of the sweeping anti-privacy laws and draconian policies brought in are even justified, they’re not even justified… and they’re so regarded, in fact, by mainstream western Marxists that this criminal state’s, which is essentially what the United States is, this criminal state’s casus belli cannot be supported even by Washington's own legal frameworks… just take them at their word and it falls apart… America is just acting like a rogue state… completely, utterly terroristic—a pariah in the global community. It's really quite appalling from any normative ethical point of view.
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>>2528232
You are distorting what Lenin wrote about capitalism. He spoke about the NEP and the need to collectivize the petty-bourgeois peasants for collective labor in cooperatives to initiate economic planning throughout the economy, and this was achieved with Stalin through collectivization.

Let's start with the quotes, then:

<But what does the word “transition” mean? Does it not mean, as applied to an economy, that the present system contains elements, particles, fragments of both capitalism and socialism? Everyone will admit that it does. But not all who admit this take the trouble to consider what elements actually constitute the various socio-economic structures that exist in Russia at the present time. And this is the crux of the question.


<Let us enumerate these elements:


<(1)patriarchal, i.e., to a considerable extent natural, peasant farming;


<(2)small commodity production (this includcs the majority of those peasants who sell their grain);


<(3)private capitalism;


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>>2529042
The leftcom critique of stalin is his social-chauvinism, nationalism and the falsification that commodity production IS socialism. His economic programme was a necessary capitalist transformation and even carried out some communistic demands. You are shadowboxing

Federalism in the ussr was the actual mistake, critics of "stalinism" unironically make pro nationalist arguments, but it's ok because nationalism is ok for small nations for some reason

>>2524984
hes right you know



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VGP - Building on a solid foundation of traditional friendship and abundant cooperation potential, Deputy Foreign Minister Le Thi Thu Hang expressed her belief that the General Secretary To Lam's upcoming visit to Finland will open up a new chapter and create breakthrough progress in bilateral relations.

Le made the remarks in an interview with the press ahead of the first official visit to Finland by a Vietnamese Party General Secretary since the establishment of diplomatic relations in 1973.

The visit, cheduled for October 20–22, carries a message of sincere affection and deep regard from the Party, State, and people of Viet Nam toward Finland — a nation that actively supported Viet Nam's past struggle for national defense as well as its ongoing national construction and development process.

For decades, Finland has been an important development cooperation partner for Viet Nam, focusing on key areas such as water supply and sanitation, poverty reduction, climate change response, and forestry. These projects have made significant contributions to Viet Nam's socio-economic growth.

The visit is expected to open up opportunities for broader and more comprehensive cooperation across various fields, particularly in potential sectors such as the digital economy, green economy, circular economy, science and technology, maritime affairs, renewable energy, and high-tech agriculture — all of which are priorities for Viet Nam and areas where Finland has notable strengths and experience.

On the international front, the trip will help Viet Nam strengthen ties with the Nordic region and enhance its role as a bridge connecting Finland with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), as well as the European Union (EU) with ASEAN. This will contribute to fostering regional connectivity in a rapidly changing world that demands joint efforts and coordinated responses to shared challenges, the deputy minister noted.

Two-way trade between the two countries has seen steady growth in recent years, reaching US$422.5 million in 2024 and US$279 million in the first nine months of 2025.

Education and training cooperation has also flourished, with 18 memoranda of understanding signed between Vietnamese and Finnish universities. Nearly 2,500 Vietnamese students are currently studying in Finland in fields such as economics, information technology, and tourism.
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Viet Nam keeps winning.

>>2529362
>Education and training cooperation has also flourished
Funny considering current affairs.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/46c4c14e-358a-4e60-9773-bc9e61601169

Who and Where?

so russo-finland trade will go through Vietnam now
smart perkele



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