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What does leftypol think of Tolstoy?


The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.
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>>2646147
Tolstoy late in life was basically a Slavic Quaker

Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl

>>2646202
Bulgakov wrote proto-new-age shit

>>2646168
they do, aside from Ilf & Petrov, but they're really hard to read without the cultural context

t. Russian

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I like the movie.

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
i remember jordan peterson claiming he was the wisest man who lived.

>>2682265
Who cares what Jordan Fucking Peterson thinks

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
it's not just western. lenin expressed his annoyance at dosto fanboys. the truth is he was a good fuckin writer, and even in translation his writing is good. at some point you've just gotta accept that chuds can write banger novels every now and then.



 

Have there been any studies done deconstructing the left-to-right ("Saul-to-Paul") political conversion narrative that the right-wing loves to throw around?

I'm talking about people like former CPUSA members who turned state like Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd, and Louis Budenz; neocons like Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and David Horowitz (rest in piss); or contemporary "conversion" stories like those of Abby Johnson. I'm obviously talking about Americans here but I'm sure you can name plenty of examples from other countries. What psychological factors cause someone to abandon leftism and fully embrace the right, and even worse, turn on their former comrades?

Is it simply the case that they upheld leftism as a dogma, so when their "god" died they found another god? Is it because they were always authoritarian assholes and embraced the right when the right gave them a better outlet for being authoritarian assholes? Was it because they found that the left was moving in a direction they didn't approve of, so they gradually became rightist? Or, using the narrative they themselves most often parrot, they felt "betrayed" by the left so in turn they betrayed the left?

Also, why do we rarely see any prominent right-wingers turning to the left?
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>>2699619
I found Bella Dodd’s great-grandniece from one of her mother’s Facebook posts where she said Bella Dodd was her great-aunt. I cyberstalked her from there and saw that her daughter is now an influencer. People need to be way more aware of how much info about themselves they put online.

>>2661687
See this is what people mean, like you can support Palestine without trying to connect two radically different issues, also the Palestinian resistence blueprint has been an objective failure more or less

>>2649156
>there was a trend of ex-Jacobins who flipped to the Holy Alliance against Napoleon
any specific examples of books about this?

This is precisely the trap that unfolds when one's praxis remains suspended in the realm of idealist abstraction rather than grounded materialist investigation. The settler colonial apparatus doesn't merely operate through the barrel of the gun, no it reproduces itself through the very same structural frameworks we deploy to critique it. Those who haven't undertaken the difficult work of excavating the material foundations of settler sovereignty the land-as-commodity, the juridical production of the Native and Black body as modern homo sacer, and the structural necessity of elimination for capital accumulation are susceptible to reactionary tendencies or grifts . Theres no shock they become susceptible to what I term reactionary interpellation. The far right doesn't contradict settler colonialism, you understand? It intensifies it, accelerates its contradictions, defends it. Without a grounded antagonistic positionality towards this, one's "radicalism" becomes mere aesthetic posturing, which won't hold up over the years.

Don't forget the identitarians, the liberal managers of white supremacy's symptoms. They treat race as cultural rather than structural, as discourse rather than as a relation to production. Their praxis inevitably gravitates toward the petite-bourgeois horizon because they've abandoned the class analytic that would reveal how white supremacy functions as a mode of colonial governance securing surplus populations and dividing the local proletariat.

Everyone here is saying MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY but the Occam's Razor answer is that the far right appeals, on a human level, to the same insecurities and frustrations as leftism. So, it's not weird at all to see a former anarchist become a fascist, a former Marxist-Leninist become a TradCath, you name it. I think it's weirder to see a former radical become a milquetoast liberal, like a former anarchist become a Republican.



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Which socialist countries could a NEET move to join the working class?

<As of 2023, approximately 21.7% of young people worldwide, aged 15 to 35, are classified as NEET, meaning they are not in education, employment, or training. This statistic highlights a significant global issue regarding youth engagement in productive activities.
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>>2705701
Neets and elites are both on the same train eating the same gravy. It's only different amounts. You are too afraid of being the former, and too eager to be the latter, to stop funding our unholy union.

>>2706918
Neets and elites. That rhymes

>>2705701
>How do NEETs not experience an existential dread
I do, but I also did when I was non-NEET, I just have better quality sleep now.

>>2660145
Nepal?

>>2705701
the vast majority of "neets" are incapacitated by serious mental health issues exacerbated by capitalism but fuck empathy because a random unemployed shartmerican on pol called me a wagecuck once amirite



 

Without him, UKKKraine and LGBT EU Neoliberalism would fully declare war on Russia. Vote for Viktor Orban without him, Russia would deal with EU invasion of Russia.

Pic related is why you should vote for him and I encourage every Hungarians do that.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2707054
>There is no reason for multipolarism to need
Multipolarism does not "need". It is an established fact. This is the aspect that blows your ass the most.

>If China can do multipolarism

China doesn't "do" multipolarism, instead, it is a part of it.

You are terminally burger-brained and I refuse to read your post further. Fuck you for polluting this space with your ignorant takes, I hope you die.

Bye

>>2706784
Orban is to NATO what Ceaușescu was to the Warsaw Pact. Also nobody understands Hungarian, it's an impenetrable language, it might not even be a real language, they made it up for a fantasy book and film franchise.

>>2707054
>There is no reason for multipolarism to need fascist epstein islanders to carry it out.
Orban was in the Epstein files? Prove it.

Stopped reading here, btw.

Any European who opposes Russia is bad
Any European who supports Russia is good

Whether Russia is good or bad is a moot point
Russia serves as a litmus test for the European

>>2707190
why would any european support russia?



 

Sure the Sassanids had issues like raidings, slavery and forced resettlement, but we must critically support them to weaken Roman Empire unipolarity.
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>>2706788
>lets replace Roman slave society with Arab slave society

>>2706776
>Roman Empire
>unipolarity
bro did you even look at your own fucking map

>>2706776
Muhammad PBUH and the early Muslim community critically supported the Roman Empire thoughbeit

>>2706844
Shut up chud. The romans have 200 military bases around the mediterranean. They literally control the Nile too. They're literally the heckin puppetmasters of whatever happens in europe. Let's be real slavs teutons or anglos will never do imperialism.

>>2706788
>>2706790
It wasn’t really the “Arabs” per se, more accurately the Believers who came out of the Hejaz were actually a broad coalition of monotheists, whose baseline were non-Trinitarian Christians, whose teachings would have been closer to the non-Trinitarian populations of the Byzantine and Sassanian Persian realms than to orthodox Christianity. Islam proper only began much later.



 

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>>2703744

the counter revolution was the revisionism and US imperialism.

realize doing this radio shit youre doing to feds is like 10 years in federal penitentiary minimum right?

>>2703759
But le party? Le centralism?

>>2703819
It isn't illegal to listen and the criminals are them and their bosses

so whats the point if this is all encrypted



 

There is an unspoken agreement between US and Iran to maintain the delicate balance of power in the region.

Losing Islamist Iran period means losing Iraq to a power vacuum.

Losing Islamist Iran to communists is doomsday scenario for capitalists, the resource rich region is filled with unpopular regimes and immiserated workers. Iran and Iraq (the most susceptible for revolution) alone make up a quarter of the world oil supply. The stakes are too high to allow an unpredictable mass movement (that cannot be entirely controlled) to overthrow the regime.

Iran poses zero threat to western imperialism, in fact in places like Iraq and Lebanon it is the lever that is maintaining it. Decades of wheeling and dealing through backchannels have exposed this myth for what it is - a false dichotomy that sets the ideological framework for US and Iranian imperialism in the region, so-called "Axis of Resistance" and "Forces of Order"

Does this mean they're in agreement on everything and Iran is secretly run by da juice? Of course not, that's conspiratorial and Kautskyist nonsense. They're united in so far as their class interests meet, mostly in suppressing workers and maintaining the status quo.

Will this last forever? No, eventually a war will break out due to capital's growing contradictions and the need to counter overproduction through destruction. The region and the world broadly have yet to fall into designated camps for such event to happen, that will spark the a third global imperialist war.

Don't fall into this false dichotomy, or prepare to be disappointed. Learn from the communist parties in the region who have reached this conclusion.

No war but class war
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>>2684618
Wrong. Islam forbids exploitation. Iran is a revolutionary Islamic People's Democratic Dictatorship. That is why working peoples support Iran Revolution and imperialist speak ill of it


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>US is threatening with military action inside Mexican territory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NVpQjPjpdA

>The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration alerted airlines about possible military activity and interference with the Global Navigation Satellite System when flying over Mexico, Central America, and South America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9C4y8H4PJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiu3Bn-Ayho

>Trump is demanding the Mexican government to turn in polititians involved in drug trade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HTuXzNsxlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d87QtGAExY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVp-Of1TFvo

>In recent months, Mexico has started to detain more and more criminals, recently, they have detained people wanted by the FBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwBL5F-hcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBB7V8jU78
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>>2703207
A morena party member told me that they almost didnt run her because they knew the army wouldnt like to have a woman as their constituional boss, and that amlo tried to make a women 4 star general but the army was like no so they made her in charge for the national gaurd and that amlo wanted the army to go to the barracks but the army refused so he gave the national gaurd to the secretary of defense and had the army back off somewhat from day to day patrolling

>>2704891
I wonder if self hosted models can do that

>>2704898
Holy cringe machismo

>>2704899
tell us the results when you try it




 

This should be the elephant in the room for a lot of people. The reason why Zionist Jews and Mormons have so much power and control over America is because America has freedom of religion. Jewish supremacy and Mormon influence in government and culture are the result of people being allowed to worship freely with zero government oversight. Same reason Evangelicals have so much power in the American South.

SOMETHING has to be done to combat these groups. We need to keep them monitored so they don’t keep political power and are drained of their enormous wealth. But we can’t do that if freedom of religion is allowed. Any socialist group in America needs to address this and call for the full-blown abolition of religious freedom. Shut down every single Zionist synagogue and Mormon and Evangelical “church.” Only allow liberation theology, anti-imperialist Islam and anti-Zionist Judaism. Keep religious places highly monitored by the proletarian state like they do in China. This is the only solution. And if you think not, come up with a better one.
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>>2706755
try it religger

>>2706175
But when he made a video criticising jews he lost his patreon and his bank account.
Curious.

>>2707228
>bank account
No. Just his Patreon.

>>2706282
>>2707432
Christian exceptionalism is a cancer on the western left.

Leftist antisemitism is fundamentally an outgrowth of Medieval Christian antisemitism, that being the idea that Jews are innately “evil” because they reject Jesus. The idea is that the Catholic Church (regardless if you believe in God or not) was supposed to unite humanity under its banner, and that by rejecting Christianity the Jews rejected universal brotherhood for tribalism (even if it was solely due to theological reasons). Leftist hatred of Jews takes the guise of Jews being immoral because they reject the teachings of Jesus, which again is a very old school form of this particular hatred.

It’s also the reason why the western left hates China, Vietnam, Laos, etc. They think the Chinese and other East Asians can never be “real” socialists because they aren’t Christian but Buddhists/Taoists/Confucians and whatnot. If India ever gets taken over by the Naxals, the western left says it will fail very shortly because Indians are Hindu. When it comes to Islam, the western left has a very shaky relationship, very far from being a “red-green alliance”. Western leftists praise Islam only on the basis that Islam resembles Christianity, as if they’re trying to force Islam into adopting a western Christian paradigm — “Islam is liberal”/“Islam is about compassion”/“Islam loves Jesus”, that kind of thing. They can never let Muslims be Muslims without injecting Christianity into their faith.

>>2707498
How many of those leftists preaching "JESUS WAS A RADICAL PALESTINIAN ANTI-COLONIAL COMMUNIST" types actually go to church? Seems like nearly everyone who says that crap is an atheist/secular.



 

Okay /leftypol.

Do you feel more bad for Socrates or for (historical) Jesus?

Bullied into suicide for not being a retard (or at least being less of a retard than everyone around him) vs tortured to death for being a slightly deluded edgelord
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>>2706061
> Secularism was practically unheard of in the ancient world
I question the historicity of Socrates as a secular figure. He seems at most a heretic.

>>2706416
>Creating a mere posibility is worthless
That's like saying we shouldn't build foundations because a foundation is not yet a house. We shouldn't plough fields because ploughed fields are not bread. Creating the possibility is not worthless when that possibility did not exist before.
>NATO is just a bunch of western democracies, athenian democracy is the prototype of that and the foundation of western civilization
It was not a prototype of anything. It was a completely different society governed by completely different social relations. It doesn't even share the same mode of production. The idea that Athens and Greek society was "the foundation of Western civilization" is a narrative conjured up during the Enlightenment. It's not actually true.
>It only matters that he opposed it and was considered enough of a problem to it that he was sentenced to death because of it
By that logic you should be buddies with skin heads who oppose liberal democracy because it isn't racist enough.

>>2706301
yeah christianity did grow out of these material conditions, but not of the poor, but of the wealthy, greek jews like paul and many others described in his epistles, this religion gained strength because of that, and your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity, in there there may very well be something you could turn into an emancipatory ideology, yet such a doctrine hardly caught on, since liberalism not long after changed the words of these men, frederick douglass for example was a christian himself, but he did not speak through the words of christianity to justify that slavery was unacceptable, he spoke through the liberal lens, as he had managed to be educated in ideas other than it

>>2706533
>your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity
That's my point though. I don't think it was the prime motivator of either of them, and it was simultaneously the language through which virtually all politics was conducted at the time.

>>2706539
in the US? yeah sure, but an enslaved man may speak in christianity because his slavemasters do, a slavemaster speaks of it because it represents power, i get that this is what you're saying but the religion itself has grown 9/10 to support the worst oppressive structures, and in the rare case it doesn't (like with john brown or whichever instance you can conjure up), it is crushed by those that do



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