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Five Eyes, honestly, shouldn't be using that much AI because AI based opinion control tends to breed reactance and ressentiment.

My previous position was pure Third Worldist, i.e, that Marxism is hopeless in the developed West, that for Marxists in the first world, you have three options: rear guard battle in the core, revolution in the periphery and semi periphery where Marxism and more specifically Marxist-Leninism actually have a chance, and emigration to an actual ML state (North Korea, China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, C) or ML controlled territory (Kerala in India).

Looking at the "what is Communism" thread, it seems that it might be worthwhile to actually establish a Trotskyite/Demsoc territory or country within the imperial core, simply for the propaganda value and to influence opinion in the developed West.

That means:
-Developed country / Imperial Core status
-Victory through elections, however much disinformation is used to win the first few.
-Subsidies from BRICS to provide high HDI and standard of living to survive the inevitable Western sanctions.
-Potential military protection from Russia or China, to prevent coup attempts or hard attacks.
-A BJP / LDP-style political structure, wherein the vanguard party effectively controls the mainstream and the elections, but allows the existence of rump opposition parties or loss of local control over regions.

I think the point is concentration, i.e, looking for a country where a Trotskyite revolution CAN succeed, and dedicating efforts to decisively win elections there.

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>Looking at the "what is Communism" thread
Shit thread, clearly anticommunist bait
>looking for a country where a Trotskyite revolution CAN succeed, and dedicating efforts to decisively win elections there.
wtf

Are you retarded and/or glowing

basically, all you want is LARP socialism / Marxism. Marxism demands praxis, not being bitches of social Dems and fascists.

You have three choices: rear-guardism in the core, or being social Democrat whores. Revolutionary death in some insurgency somewhere, I think only the Naxalites are still active and prominent. Or, moving to an ML country and conducting normal praxis there, by paying your taxes and accelerating socialist development.

I'm suggesting a fourth: find a core country vulnerable enough to the periphery and semi-periphery that has the conditions necessary for electoral victory, and then do it. Then build up counter hegemony from state backing, while under effective semi-periphery protection and support.

Bump

>>2609506
Why so you bump cringe you shit general

From an actual ideological perspective, Trotskyism was never that far off from its more popular sibling, MLism, and at this point they've basically coverged into the same thing anyway. To conflate Trotskyism with Demsocism is to admit that you've never read him.



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Socialist
>Emmm END OF HISTORY is le wrong amirite?

Actual Fukuyama
>Everybody will eventually learn to love liberalism because the atomized liberal subject who is free to set up whatever they want as their identity/being and be validated for it is the least bad model for every ideological tendency out there

If you actually read about Fukuyama what he said is legit what a lot of lib leftoids (and rightoids who want to have individual space where they can identify as an agarthan superman) wants society to look like. They say they want community or "a village", but in the end what these liberals perceieve as a "community" is a libertarian association that ultimately serve to empower the individuals that is the end all be all of politics. Regardless of whether its rightoid politics who tell impressionable young men that they can larp as macho hunters in a warband with women all over them as long as they spend enough time doing the based ritual or leftoid anarchist who misinterpret the Deluzian rhizome all of you guys unconsciously pivot to Francis's position
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>>2607158
>>2607144
>>2607150
Samefag, stop trying to rehabilitate Fukuyama, its pathetic


>>2609818
>a useless concept that is an analytical burden
i.e. you're too lazy to make your model fit reality or too cowardly to accept there will be edge cases, so all that's left is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and coercing reality to fit the model. which is doomed to failure
you'd go far as a bourgeois economist.

>>2609866
If your defense of Wallerstein's stupidity is "but, Fuck your mama…" that means you don't have a real defense.

>>2609818
>>2609871

The individual obviously does exist. The only people who'd argue otherwise are retarded naval-gazing philosphers. Stop reading nonsense and start reading actual theory.



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The most critically acclaimed tv shows in the western world all have one thing in common. Their mc is some irredeemable sociopath who uses manipulation and violence for gaining wealth. Breaking bad and the sopranos is the most glaring example. But even mad men is extreme in how evil the mc is. Dude cheats on his wife and neglects his kids but is considered badass for doing so. There's even one scene where don is handed a copy of Atlas shrugged by his boss
Is this how western elites view themselves?
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>>2609839
lmao sopranos is still the only one to really do it well. didnt cop out and give tony a sentimental ending like breaking bad. also the therapy scenes in are some of the best scenes but also harder to sit through than any of the kills because theyre so awkward. every time Tony goes on some horrific tangent clearly having no idea how offputting he comes across i have to pause to collect myself. peak tv

>>2609821
it lets you have your cake and eat it: people can enjoy it both as a power fantasy within the status quo and as a critique of the status quo.

>>2609973
a fun one here is pre-capitalist morality towards commerce: making money through inheritance without 'earning' it was considered noble and moral, while making it through trade was suspicious because you weren't producing it, nor were you getting it through your birth. you were conjuring money out of thin air by ripping people off by buying for less than a fair price in one place and selling for more than a fair price elsewhere. (in the morality of the time.)
today by contrast, most people who inherit their wealth try to hide that fact and pretend that they've earned it through business.

similarly, to be a male wage laborer - except perhaps at a young age - was often faintly shameful, since it meant you weren't capable of running your own household and needed somebody else to boss you around.

>>2609861
There's nothing wrong with anti-heros, provided their negative actions aren't glorified. Real people aren't perfect platonic beings, so if you want to do social realism properly, you need to depict people struggling against themselves.

>>2610210
Not only Tony but the show presented pretty much EVERYONE as a hypocrite and a douchebag. If the viewer still finds the character a 'role model', the viewer is a piece of shit, not the writer.



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Is prostitution inherently wrong?
We can all agree that it generally correlates with human trafficking and crime but I'm talking about sex workers who persue this career out of their own free will.
I don't think the state should interfere with what consenting adults do with their bodies as long as no one is harmed?
Would society become less violent if men were able to satiate their sexual frustrations through sex workers?
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>>2610185
why would gay men find women attractive?

Every loli poster is as guilty as Epstein

>>2610188
Maybe if the woman is manly enough?

>>2610191
No, gay men are not attracted to botch lesbians either
>>2610188
Hetmoids unironically believe gay equals solely liking dick instead of the whole package (Masculine body, physical features, etc…), is peak projection as most hetero males see women as walking cum dumpsters




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considering the average "discussion" on this place im convinced 99% of posters here have not read even the fucking manifesto (but have gladly wasted years of their lives reading shit only relevant to academics)

>The charges against Communism made from a religious, a philosophical and, generally, from an ideological standpoint, are not deserving of serious examination.

https://www.marxists.org/admin/books/manifesto/Manifesto.pdf
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Manifesto is a trash introduction to Marx. It's the most dated of his works and treatlerites will claim that most the points in its program have been accomplished so communism is pointless, while conveniently ignoring that it was class struggle by organized labor that won them. Value, Price and Profit is a clearer introduction to Marx's work and better illustrates how workers are still getting fucked.

>>2608879
Technically there are still some points that arent really implemented even in the most advanced countries today.

>>2608877
you are a mass tor baiter and i wasn't quote mining but you are. your quotes do not function as a counter to what I was saying, and you add no additional text from yourself to aid
>>2608876
nobody called themselves an intellectual. they spoke out against anti-intellectualism. you derived the additional
>implication
because you are a shitty mossad CIA LLMslop mass tor baiter and one of many who have utterly ruined this site.

>>2604680
>convert [boring egostical wankfest] into 6 bullet points please
reading books is so 2020

>>2604680
>muh discussions



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Due to a glitch in DHS software code you can bypass the redaction.
> First : Open the attached link and scroll down to item #203. Second: Copy the content (you may need to include the end of #202 and the beginning of #206). Third: Paste the copied (redacted) text into ms word.
https://archive.org/details/combined-all-epstein-files/DataSet_1_COMPLETE.pdf



 

What is the official /leftypol/ position on the growing phenomenon of of upper class people using surrogacy to have "hundreds" of children? As well as the concurrent phenomenon of certain sperm donors being selected over and over again until they reach similar counts of children?

https://archive.is/x1j4e#selection-2899.0-2903.137
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg8mge23leo
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>>2609154
this, I don't think it really matters

Better than 80 autism score Jamal having 16 baby mamas. Billionaires having loads of children is unironically eugenic.

power corrupts i guess. who knew?!

It'll lead to more incest maybehaps.

>>2609154
Are they actually giving these kids inheritance? I assumed this was a strat to circumvent inheritance and keep money to the grave.



 

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>>2609102
i would happily pay double for rice and beans and the other foods I eat most often if it meant there were less school shootings, fentanyl addicts, and imperialist wars. but these trolls don't believe me. it's a never ending struggle session with them. they could harrass actual reactionaries but they curiously spend their infinite free time at their cobalt mining job to harass americans. because they are CIA LLM bots.

The stuff that the Chagos poster and other "Maoist Third Worldists" say is basically American Exceptionalism, but in the reverse. Saying that America is uniquely evil in history but when you honestly look at history it's not that unique. Even African slave kingdoms enslaved other African tribes and sold them to the Europeans.

It's basically yet another form of burger Protestant Christianity and "Original Sin" all over again.

>>2609191
Chagos poster repeatedly said that he is not a TWist though.

>>2609036
The fact of the matter is that Hegel ended up being right in his analysis of the state as the representation of the general interest of a people by encompassing all parties, when the focus is on the Western states.

The invasion of Greenland is planned for 31st December 2025. Do not ask how I know.



 

I really dont know how you can claim that the donbass and luhansk are rightfully russian when all the russians living there and inside ukraine in the first place are just the descendants of settlers and colonists that arrived there during the russian empire.
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Ukraine is the definition of a nonhistoric, reactionary people. It will not exist after total Russian victory.
Z

>>2606249
russians are settlers eveywhere east of the urals and in central asia

>>2609456
Learn how to read

>>2606249
>The USSR resolved all 'colonist' question. After the 70 years of the USSR, no one was a 'colonist' anywhere in the USSR anymore.
What did they do to resolve this? If it's the same people on the same land, they are by all means 'colonists', with the only difference being that they live under a different form of social organization, one which is still being imposed by the same people.

Of course, I don't believe in magical legitimacy of land. People live in a place or they don't, and authority either asserts itself, or it doesn't.

>>2606261
Making a smartass meme very much is a response though. You might not think of it as such, but are indeed communicating a sentiment in a public forum. Shitposting is just as much a part of the dialectic as anything else.

>>2606353
This. It's a worthless plot of land with zero real-world significance that nobody cared about until Russia attacked it. It's currently the puppet state of a capitalist power, and the people trying to claim it are another, smaller capitalist power. Both arguments either way are stupid; the belief that Ukraine has some kind of magical "right" to exist is idealism, the belief that Russia is the lesser of two evils is the same logic that American politicians use to uphold the status quo.

I know the internet has turned people retarded, so I feel now is a good time to remind everyone that you don't need to have an opinion on literally everything that happens. There's much more important things to spend your time and energy on then stupid fucking Ukraine.



 

Casualty rises to 23 | Seven more civilians injured, including a girl, amid ongoing shelling in Al-Sheikh Maqsoud and Al-Ashrafiyah
According to SOHR local sources, interim government forces targeted Sheikh Maqsoud and Al-Ashrafieh with mortar shells and heavy machine guns of the “DShK” type, in parallel with direct clashes on several fronts inside the two neighbourhoods, causing widespread panic among civilians. In the same context, SOHR sources reported that seven injured people were taken to Al-Razi Hospital in Aleppo city, including two members of the Civil Defence, as a result of the shelling and ongoing clashes. Meanwhile, the Gaziantep–Aleppo road was closed from the Al-Layramoun roundabout side, following sniper fire attributed to SDF targeting the vicinity of Sheihan Roundabout, amid heightened security deployment.
https://www.syriahr.com/en/375281/

Turkish FM casts doubt on Kurdish integration in Syria
Ankara says the SDF presence along its southern borders poses a security threat to both Turkey and Syria, and that the Damascus government must address this. It has said any integration must ensure the SDF is disbanded - in line with a disarmament process between outlawed Kurdish PKK militants and the Turkish state - and its chain of command broken.
https://www.newarab.com/news/turkish-fm-casts-doubt-kurdish-integration-syria

Israel's new NGO rules risk leaving hundreds of thousands of Gazans without healthcare in 2026, MSF warns
The new requirements threaten to withdraw registration from international non-governmental organisations (INGOs) from January 1. This non-registration would prevent humanitarian organisations from providing essential services to people in Gaza and the West Bank, MSF said today. “With Gaza’s health system already destroyed, independent and experienced humanitarian organisations losing access to respond would be a disaster for Palestinians,” MSF said.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/israels-new-ngo-rules-risk-leaving-hundPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Watchdog Celebrates Victory Over Instacart Pricing Scheme—But Says Broader Corporate Abuse Remains
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) took notice of the report, saying it was “disturbed” by the findings, and launched an investigation on Thursday, which caused the company’s stock price to plummet by about 7%. It also attracted attention from members of Congress, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who demanded government action on what he called “shakedown pricing.” Instacart agreed that same day to pay the FTC $60 million in a settlement for what the commission said was “a variety of deceptive tactics that misled consumers and caused them to pay more in fees.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/instacart-ends-ai-pricing

US pauses offshore wind projects over security concerns
In a statement, the Department of the Interior said it was pausing five large-sale projects to look into how windmills could interfere with radar and create other risks to east coast cities. President Donald Trump has long opposed wind energy, saying it is unreliable and drives up costs, and attempted to stop all projects when he returned to office. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum has said wind farms have no future in the US energy grid.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd74lyr094vo

Democratic-led states sue to block US consumer watchdog's defunding under Trump
Last month, the CFPB under Vought's leadership said it could not request more money from the Fed because the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010 requires that funding come from the central bank's "combined earnings." Since the Fed had been operating at a loss since 2022, the Trump administration said no earnings were available. The CFPB in a November 10 court filing said it expected its funds would run out in early 2026.
https://www.reuters.com/world/democratic-led-states-sue-block-us-consumer-watchdogs-defunding-under-trump-2025-12-22/

Baltimore residents rally against BGE rate hikes, demanding public utilityPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Keir Starmer’s Government Is Leaving the Hunger Strikers to Die
By the standards of even the most forgiving and lenient Santa, it can’t be said that Keir Starmer’s government has been good this year. We’ve seen a manifesto-breaching budget that was leaked ahead of time, embarrassing U-turns on scrapping the two-child benefit cap, welfare reform and cutting pensioners’ winter fuel payments, and bursts of vicious briefing and leadership plot speculation amid Labour’s increasingly dire polling figures. Then there were the Tommy Robinson-approved plans for asylum seekers, support for Israeli football hooligans’ right to rampage through Birmingham and yet more cabinet cowardice over Israel’s continuous campaign of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. And if this wasn’t enough to warrant a lump of coal in the government’s stocking on Christmas morning, 2025 also saw Starmer’s weaponisation of anti-terror law in the form of the proscription of Palestine Action, ie protecting UK sites of Israel’s largest arms manufacturer while nanas in their 80s get carried off by cops. With parliament’s Christmas hiatus beckoning, there’s one shameful chapter left wide open: the six hunger-striking prisoners, who become more likely to sustain irreversible physical damage or die with every hour of government inaction.
https://novaramedia.com/2025/12/19/keir-starmers-government-is-leaving-the-hunger-strikers-to-die/

Chile Applies New Anti-Terrorism Law to Mapuche Youths; Prison Denies Basic Rights
In Wallmapu, Chile, the situation of Mapuche youths Lientur Millacheo and Jaime Huenchuñir—the first individuals in Chile to be prosecuted under the country’s newly revised Anti-Terrorism Law—has worsened, according to their spokeswomen. Both young men are currently held in the Temuco Penitentiary, where their families report that they have been subjected to torture and what they describe as direct political persecution by the Chilean State. We spoke with spokeswomen Alen Huenuche and Millaray Huenchuñir, as well as attorney Christian Arancibia, who is supporting the families. Millacheo and Huenchuñir remain in pretrial detention while prosecutors investigate their case under the new anti-terrorism framework—and could be legally held without trial for up to five years. In Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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