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(for context, Xi is replying to some question to an ultra-left fraction of the CPC)

Nor can we regard as an answer the opinion of other half-baked Marxists, who think that the thing to do would be to assume power and to expropriate the small and medium rural producers and to socialize their means of production. Marxists cannot adopt this senseless and criminal course either, because it would destroy all chances of victory for the proletarian revolution, and would throw the peasantry into the camp of the enemies of the proletariat for a long time.

The answer to this question was given by Comrade Deng in his writings on the "reform and opening up" and in his celebrated "cooperative plan."

Comrade Deng's answer may be briefly summed up as follows:

a) Favourable conditions for the assumption of power should not be missed - the Party should assume power without waiting until capitalism has succeeded in ruining the millions of small and medium individual producers;

b) The means of production in heavy industry should be expropriated and converted into public property;

c) As to the small and medium individual producers, they should be gradually united in producers' cooperatives, i.e., in large agricultural enterprises, collective farms;

d) Industry should be developed to the utmost and the peasant commune should be placed on the modern technical basis of large-scale production, not expropriating them, but on the contrary generously supplying them with first-class tractors and other machines;
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Communism is when you oppose marxist leninist states for not being marxist enough (based us government is though)


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Socialism is when you oppose liberal democratic states for not being democratic enough (based central powers though)


Mods saged this thread for no reason. It isn't about China but about Stalinists not reading Stalin - and they feel called out.


As a Stalinist I enjoy these threads cause they always have these guys freaking out about Deng and you can tell they are so clueless

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History should be rewritten after the proletariat takes power. Just like the bourgeois wrote not just their own history, but the history of the slaveowners and feudal lords, so should the proletariat write the history of its own movement, its history to the relation to the bourgeoisie, the history of the exploited classes in all of class society. We will erase the existence of all kings, all slaveowners, all bourgeois politicians etc. from public life, except those who helped the communist cause directly one way or the other. We will replace the history of property with the history of the working classes! Every bourgeois falsehood has to be erased so that communist society can be built.

Permanent cultural revolution! The next stage of the theory of Maoism-Trotskyism.

Весь мир насилья мы разрушим
До основанья, а затем
Мы наш мы новый мир построим,
Кто был никем тот станет всем!

No more tradition’s chains shall bind us
Arise, ye slaves, no more in thrall;
The earth shall rise on new foundations
We have been naught we shall be all.


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this is worse than hoxhaism-third worldism

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The Ukranian War is putting a strain on NATO. Some of the US want to end the european gibs and focus on "internal problems". US may never get out of NATO in the short term, but they could decrease their participation.

On another different note entirely, the EU is pressuring Apple to allow sideloading in iOS. They already made them use USB-C. And hardware is more expensive to segregate between continents, so the Brussels effect applied. But the sideloading issue is is software, which is easier to just enable on EU and not on the US. EU already has different laws on foods and such that american countries have to follow. But Apple is the largest company on Earth and mobile tech is very important. Is this another sign of the end of Atlanticism? What are some other signs?


NATO has to lose in Ukraine first at the very least


War on Gaza: Israel pummels Khan Younis, damaging field hospital and razing cemetery
The Jordanian army on Wednesday accused Israel of a "flagrant breach of international law" after its field hospital in southern Gaza's Khan Younis was badly damaged by Israeli overnight shelling. This came after Israeli forces heavily shelled and bombed the vicinity of Nasser Hospital, the main medical facility in Khan Younis, on Tuesday night, killing at least 23 people.

Protests erupt in Tunisian town as search continues for 37 missing migrants
Other than three or four people from elsewhere in Tunisia, all of the boat’s passengers are reported to be from the small village of El Hencha in the Sfax Governorate. They range in age from about 13 to 35 years old. Frustrated by the lack of news since the boat’s disappearance, the families of the missing migrants erected roadblocks and burned tyres around the village yesterday, only withdrawing when the government authorities assured the public that search efforts would continue.

Sullivan: U.S. post-war strategy links Saudi-Israel peace deal with two-state solution
Sullivan laid out four principles for U.S. thinking on a political settlement for the day after the war: Gaza is never used for terror attacks on Israel; peace between Israel and the Arab countries in the region; a state for the Palestinians; and security assurances for Israel. … Netanyahu's government includes ultranationalists who oppose even small overtures to the Palestinians. It's extremely unlikely they'd agree to a path toward a future Palestinian state.
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>Italy turns to Cuba to help revive ailing health system
holy fuck


Amid a national shortage, the US Adderall black market is booming
Peruse an online marketplace like Craigslist, and you’ll find coded classified ads for “Study Help” and “Study Hall”, or calls looking for a “Study Buddy”. Despite the scholarly language, these aren’t people looking for pre-final cram session. They’re plugs for Adderall: the trade name for a combination of amphetamine salts long prescribed as a first-choice treatment for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). It’s a drug that is, of late, in perilously short supply.

With US in Deep Freeze, LNG Exports Blamed for Spike in Domestic Gas Prices
With millions of Americans suffering sub-zero temperatures under a deadly Arctic blast, a leading consumer advocate on Tuesday attributed the fivefold increase in the U.S. benchmark price of natural gas to the recent "explosion in LNG exports."

Judge denies motion to dismiss charges against ex-Marine in Jordan Neely NY subway killing
A former U.S. Marine sergeant, who was charged with manslaughter for killing Jordan Neely, a homeless man, on the New York City subway, must face trial after a judge decided on Wednesday against his motion to dismiss the indictment.

150 Mennonites Arrested at Capitol for Peacefully Demanding Gaza Cease-Fire
The group displayed signs reading, "Mennonites for a Cease-fire" and, "Let Gaza Live" as they sang hymns and other songs from a "cease-fire songbook" organizers had distributed.
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On the 102nd Day of the War of Genocide: PFLP Statement
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine calls for a qualitative escalation in all forms of struggle and Arab and international protest against the war of fenocide waged by the occupation and the alliance of aggression against our people. We are facing a decisive phase where pressure must be exerted on the United States, the actual leader of this aggression, and its strongest allies and supporters of the occupation in the war of extermination, namely Britain and Germany. After more than 100 days of genocide, the United States and the countries of the aggressive alliance still enable the occupation to continue its war of extermination against our people, providing it with political cover, military support, and protection in international institutions. They exercise all forms of political pressure against any movement to stop the aggression or a stance supporting the people of Palestine and their legitimate rights.

“Fair Trade” Labels Conceal Brutal Abuses of Farmworkers
Any US consumer walking down the supermarket aisle will find berries, tomatoes, and other vegetables that are labeled “responsibly grown,” “farmworker-assured,” and “fair-trade certified.” But behind the labels, the Mexican workers who harvest these fruits and vegetables live and labor in conditions they call “twenty-first century slavery.” We interviewed two hundred workers for our new report “Certified Exploitation: How Equitable Food Initiative and Fair Trade USA Fail to Protect Farmworkers in the Mexican Produce Industry.” They detailed widespread wage theft, sexual harassment, rampant retaliation, and, in the most extreme cases, forced labor. In the Mexican state of Baja California, farmworkers often get paid just $15 per day — while less than two hundred miles north, farmworkers in California earn a minimum of $15 per hour. Often they’re picking for the same familiar household brands, like Driscoll’s or Andrew & Williamson. But that fundamental unfairness is hidden behind labels declaring that the produce is “Responsibly Grown, Farmworker Assured,” and “Fair Trade Certified.” It raises Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Thanks News Anon

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Basically isnt it better of capitalist world is as disunited and unconnected as possible? People here often bemoan dissolution of Soviet Union, but at that point any pretense of socialism was already done away with. So my question is, should national separatist/regionalist/isolationist movement be supported by communists in all capitalist countries, be it USA, France, Russia, Bulgaria, Democratic republic of Congo, whatever, and if not, why?
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mfer thinks NATO singlehandledly invented balkan ethnic animosity and that bombs serve some purpose other than destabilization, the purpose of which is to heighten internal contradictions


>mfer thinks balkanization is something you do to a country and not a consequence of internal contradictions
By and at large, "natural balkanization" is a myth. Balkanization doesn't come about naturally, it IS something one country does to another country. That said, balkanization having some kind of significant popular support relies on the people of said country being split into multiple coherent nations whose petty nationalisms and ethnic resentments can be stoked to bolster support for balkanization. There is no equivalent of this in the United States. The Americans constitute a more or less single coherent nation, and the American national project has been incredibly good assimilating and integrating disparate peoples into its nation. Now, there's racial identity and racial resentment in the United States, but that's a whole other ball game.


>NATO singlehandledly invented balkan ethnic animosity
>NATO intervened specifically to ensure that Yugoslavia would permanently split up and likely never reform again


Full support.


bigfoot is our 4th largest ethnic minority

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Are you from a labour aristocratic country? Do you, as a worker, benefit from the exploitatiin of the periphery and the underdeveloped world?

Modern science (Marxism) says yes!

But first, let's try to determine if you are from the first or second or third world!

>Is there a massive population wave leaving your country to live in yours?

If yes, congratulations, you are from a labour aristocratic, i.e. first world country!

>Are people from your country leaving en masse to live and work in other countries?

Congrats! You live in a labour aristocratic country wherein you and your ilk benefit!

Appeals to lowering income or lessening housing opportunities (and so on) mean NOTHING, since you already personally benefit from rhe squalor of the rest of the world.
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My comrade in marx, what do you think their long term goals are with climate change, low birth rates, and the mass destruction of communities


They're going to rise up due to their own material interests and the rising urgency of climate change and the death throes of the American empire lashing out wherever it can reach.
The bait threads are just to deliver psychic damage to westoids in the process.


The labor aristocracy is a minority of workers who exist to coopt the masses in their specific countries by deceiving them. You combat this by fighting for the interest of the working class by reducing the surplus value extracted by capitalists to intensify the class struggle such as guaranteeing public employment and strengthening the revolutionary party of the proletariat to unmask bourgeois democracy.
Now I'm going to demonstrate the sources that prove what I'm saying:

<One of the most common sophistries of Kautskyism is its reference to the “masses”. We do not want, they say, to break away from the masses and mass organisations! But just think how Engels put the question. In the nineteenth century the “mass organisations” of the English trade unions were on the side of the bourgeois labour party. Marx and Engels did not reconcile themselves to it on this ground; they exposed it. They did not forget, firstly, that the trade union organisations directly embraced a minority of the proletariat. In England then, as in Germany now, not more than one-fifth of the proletariat was organised. No one can seriously think it possible to organise the majority of the proletariat under capitalism. Secondly—and this is the main point—it is not so much a question of the size of an organisation, as of the real, objective significance of its policy: does its policy represent the masses, does it serve them, i.e., does it aim at their liberation from capitalism, or does it represent the interests of the minority, the minority’s reconciliation with capitalism? The latter was true of England in the nineteenth century, and it is true of Germany, etc., now.

<Engels draws a distinction between the “bourgeois labour party” of the old trade unions—the privileged minority—and the “lowest mass”, the real majority, and appeals to the latter, who are not infected by “bourgeois respectability”. This is the essence of Marxist tactics!

<Neither we nor anyone else can calculate precisely what portion of the proletariat is following and will follow the social-chauvinists and opportunists. This will be revealed only by the struggle, it will be definitely decided only by the socialist revolution. But we know for certain that the “defenders of the fa
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Climate change in every model destroys poor countries first.
Lowering of birth rates doesn't seem to be a purely capitalist phenomenon nor is it solely affecting imperial core countries.
Most community destruction followed economic law without the need to invoke malicious intent.

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How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists? I have this horrible feeling whenever I look at Neo-Nazi imageboards and online spaces and see actual useful (for them of course) and constructive discussion based on what should be done to actually further their movement. Compared to, for example, leftypol where Anarchists are constantly weighed down by Marxists seemingly obsessive desire to pull down the Socialist movement at every opportunity, to alienate it from the general public and argue about useless semantics and "dialectics" instead of anything that actually matters IRL. A movement isnt attractive if you have to constantly argue the validity of your given sect of the "movement" at all times from your supposed comrades.

"A house divided cannot do shit" or whatever Lincoln said, it is just better for us to just separate, for both parties. I would create an Anarchist-only imageboard if it werent for me being retarded when it comes to technology.
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>bourgeois sentimentality?

Picrel has no sentimentality, let alone a boirgeois one, since they didn't exist. AES was great for the second/third world. Imperialism is great for the labour aristocrat.


Ah it's hard to know when it's sincere, because you get people from the 80s who were in the CPSU who now boast that ending communism was always their goal despite officially being a member of the communist party.


>yet only the third world kept revolting in any meaningful way for the last 60 yrs.
We are still waiting for you to stop cooperating with imperialists by stopping to sell your labour power to them, so you can finally crash the capitalist system with no survivors instead of basking yourself in slave morality.
I'm not even a Brit btw.


I feel nothing about the USSR collapsing other than that for all the bloodshed MLs justify it ultimately really was for nothing

Otherwise I feel nothing, you wasted your time typing all that. I dislike MLs themselves more than I do a state that collapsed before I was born, and that's mostly because MLs are insufferable.


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Conducted by Oriana Fallaci, an accomplished journalist and former Italian anti-fascist partisan who turned fascist later in life during the Gulf Wars. Who better then to interview Deng Xiaoping?

<‘’’ORIANA FALLACI’’’: Mr. Deng, you recently wrote that China is at a turning point which can be compared with a second revolution. In fact, the traveler arriving in Beijing today has an almost physical feeling of change. No uniforms, no written slogans, and the portraits of Mao Zedong are so rare that I only saw three of them, including the one which stays at the entrance of the Forbidden City. Will those rare portraits of Mao remain or not?

>‘’’DENG XIAOPING’’’: Yes, they will certainly be kept forever. You see, in the past too many portraits of Chairman Mao were shown in public, and to such an excess that they looked almost disrespectful, so we took them off, but… Listen, Chairman Mao committed mistakes: It is true. But he also was one of the main founders of the Chinese Communist Party and of the People's Republic of China. In evaluating his mistakes as well as his merits, we think that his mistakes only rate a secondary place. This means that the contribution he gave to the Chinese revolution cannot be obliterated and the Chinese people will always cherish his memory.
<Q: Yes, it is known that today all the faults are being blamed on the Gang of Four. That is, Mao's widow Jiang Qing and the other three who led the Cultural Revolution. But does this correspond to the historical truth? I have been told that, when we speak of the Gang of Four, many Chinese raise their hand with the five fingers opened and they angrily answer: "Yes, yes, four!"
>A: (He smiles.) Then it's imperative for me to make a clear distinction between the nature of Chairman Mao's mistakes and the crimes committed by Lin Biao and the Gang of Four. I must remind you that Chairman Mao devoted most of his life to China and saved the party and the revolution in the most critical moments. In other words, he gave such a contribution that, without him, in the least the Chinese would have spent much more time in groping their way in the darkness. Then let's not forget that it was Chairman Mao who combined the principles of Marxism and Leninism with the realities of China, it was Chairman Mao who creatively applied those principles not only to politPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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This is rather illuminating. Mao was a true revolutionary and communist, but at the same time he was too much of a winner who accumulated so much prestige that even in a perfect democracy his opinion would outweight everyone else's. And this "patriarchy" (as in patriarch) is why he got himself a gang of bad people replace all the people around him with their cronies.


>A: The decision was taken collectively and knowing that there would be the mass support. We had seen it very well in April 1976 when the popular indignation against the Gang of Four had taken the form of a mass protest against the cancellation of a ceremony to commemorate the death of Zhou Enlai. I couldn't do anything in those days. I was out, I had lost my freedom. However, in 1974 and 1975, when I was back in government, I had had a direct confrontation with the Gang of Four and I had exercised all the influence I could to show the people the true features of the Gang. But I must also say that, shortly before his death, Chairman Mao had expressed himself in a rather hard way against the Gang of Four. In fact, it had been Chairman Mao to use, as first, the words "Gang of Four." He had also chosen his successor in Hua Guofeng, and this to avoid that Jiang Qing and the others would become his successors. And all things had a great part in the decision to arrest the Gang. A decision which wasn't easy because, at that time, the Four were still strong and had already tried to overthrow the new leadership led by Hua Guofeng.

Oh my, they even tried to cancel/purge Zhou Enlai the moment they got to the top. Gang of Four really were Khruschevite in essense


source ?


Reminder the PLA is responsible for the vast majority of casualties during the cultural revolution (which only existed from 66-68, not 76). They actively encouraged factional squabbles and it was the right wing red guard groups (who the PLA often preferred) who took "class struggle" to mean if someone in your bloodline was a landlord or bourgeois UOU were bourgeois and counter revolutionary, even though those economic categories basically didn't exist at the time.


can't wait for this to come to america. three percenters and oath keepers and vets pretending they're the working class


Qatar announces Israel-Hamas deal for medicine and aid to enter Gaza
The deal will see humanitarian aid delivered to civilians in “the most affected and vulnerable areas” in Gaza in exchange for the delivery of medication to Israeli captives held by Hamas, the group that governs Gaza, Qatar’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement on Tuesday.

US carries out new airstrike against Houthis in Yemen
The third U.S. military strike against Houthi targets was launched because the four missiles posed an imminent threat to merchant vessels and U.S. Navy ships, according to two U.S officials. On Thursday night, the U.S. and United Kingdom used Tomahawk missiles and fighter aircraft to strike at nearly 30 Houthi locations associated with the Houthi drone and missile attacks on commercial shipping.

Iraq: Baghdad recalls Iran ambassador after deadly attacks in Kurdistan region
At least four people were killed, and six others were wounded, according to the regional security council of Kurdistan. "The Iraqi Ministry of Foreign Affairs summoned the Ambassador of the Republic of Iraq to Tehran, Mr Naseer Abdul Mohsen, for the purpose of consultations in the context of the recent Iranian attacks on Erbil, which resulted in a number of martyrs and wounded,” read a statement issued by Iraq’s foreign ministry and posted on X.

Starmer ditches Palestinian recognition
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>What that meant was spelt out by shadow foreign office minister Wayne David, who said Labour would “recognise the state of Palestine at a point which will help the peace process once negotiations between Israel and Palestine and the others are taking place.”
They'll recognise the remaining rubble as Palestine before they recognise Israeli war crimes as genocide


US Supreme Court rejects Alaska's bid to let state workers avoid union dues
The justices declined to hear the state's appeal of a lower court's ruling that found that a union's collecting of dues from public employees who it represents without receiving their explicit written consent did not violate their free speech rights under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment.

Governor says she doesn’t want Alabama auto workers to unionize
In response to workforce conditions, this month over 30% of workers at the Tuscaloosa Mercedes plant signed union authorization cards. This is an important step to form a union with the United Automotive Workers, UAW. “Becoming a unionized facility means that these workers will have a voice in the operations of the facility and the way that they’re treated in their pay and their benefits and their disciplinary processes,” said Wakeley.

Lawmakers Reach Deal to Expand Child Tax Credit—In Exchange for Corporate Tax Cuts
The $80 billion tax framework unveiled by Senate Finance Committee Chair Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and House Ways and Means Committee Chair Jason Smith (R-Mo.) after months of negotiations is seen as a longshot to pass given Republican control of the lower chamber and likely GOP hesitance to deliver a legislative win for President Joe Biden in an election year.

Crop-killing weeds advance across US farmland as chemicals lose effectiveness
Crop-killing weeds such as kochia are advancing across the U.S. northern plains and Midwest, in the latest sign that weeds are developing resistanPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


In Italy’s Main Shipyard, Anti-Islam Policy Divides Workers
Holding her delayed end-of-year press conference on January 4, Italian prime minister Giorgia Meloni was asked about the “Monfalcone affair.” TV reporter Elisa Saltarelli sought Meloni’s opinion on the supposed “Islamization” of the northeastern Italian town, as denounced by Mayor Anna Maria Cisint, a member of Matteo Salvini’s far-right Lega party. Monfalcone, a historic center of shipbuilding that recently surpassed thirty thousand residents, made national headlines after Cisint’s decision to prevent Muslim worshippers from praying in either of the town’s Islamic cultural centers. This can be seen as the culmination of recent developments in which institutional racism has increasingly shaped local politics. But the policies enacted have also made Monfalcone a special vantage point on the contradictions of the far right in office — claiming to defend the Italian native workforce from Muslims even as it undermines job stability generally.

YOU LOVE TO SEE IT: Regulators Come For Boeing and Co.
Good things are happening! Federal regulators are now investigating Boeing and its longtime subcontractor Spirit AeroSystems after a series of Lever reports revealed widespread corporate malfeasance following a terrifying plane malfunction. Boeing and Spirit made headlines recently after a door plug manufactured by Spirit blew off of a Boeing 737 Max plane mid-flight over Portland, Oregon. The high-altitude debacle comes after two 737 Max crashes in 2018 and 2019 together killed 346 people and another fatal incident in 2018 saw a woman partially sucked out of a plane when a small engine explosion shattered a window. The Lever’s breaking story on Monday detailed reports of a toxic work culture at Spirit, where employees were allegedly told to falsify safety records and were reportedly fired for speaking out. Then we uncovered how Boeing lobbied for weakened safety regulations and a boost in production levels by spending tens of millions in Washington On Thursday, The Lever detailed how former South Carolina governor and current GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley helped kill a plan to force Boeing to fully disclose its political spending — part ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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