/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

So what is the communist thought on productivity? Behavior? How does communism fit people who are not neurotypical or whatever

>>2496153
>Capitalism produced so called psychological identities like ADHD and Autism so it will have more productive workers to work in its factories
I am unable to keep my own home clean, and am incapable of engaging in hobbies most days, without my adhd medication. It made me suicidal even in spite of me having decent academic and career success. So stop saying that my medical condition is just made up by capitalism.

>>2496177
>But unironically 'treatments' for ADHD and depression just exist to make you stupid docile animals.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

> They make it so all you can do is work and you are already out of energy by the time you have to be doing political work,
That is caffeine, not ADHD medication. If you are tired, you are still tired on ADHD medication, you just can't fall asleep if you tried. Caffeine suppresses feelings of fatigue, adhd medication doesnt if taken in the dosis you're supposed to.
>or they make you sick when you have to do it.
No
>And it is addictive.
I have to put my medication next to my front door because I keep forgetting it. ADHD medication is not addictive, especially to those with ADHD.

>>2496513
My parents just went the coffee route
[counts how many times I filled my mug this morning]
Eh, fair enough.

>>2496153
If the only good thing capitalism has done has found a way for people like me to exist in broader society, that alone justifies it.

Adderall for All is a Proletarian demand.

Law is something humans made up because the alternative is to struggle forever without any real purpose. Nothing about the law is written for you in Nature, you dingus.

This natural law faggotry has gone way out of hand.

>>2499703
>Not sure if it's just my algo psyoping me, but I've been getting an increased amount of black people/influencers with 50k+ likes denouncing Palestine and Palestinian liberation, on the basis that their cause is irrelevant to black struggle and it's a slave mentality since support for Palestine is predominantly white.
Alright but the polling data on this apparently shows black Americans in general are far more supportive of Palestine than white Americans, or at least less supportive of Israel (in general). There's a bunch of them who don't give a shit either way, but you ask black people in America whether supporting Israel is super important to them, 95% say "no." There is a sizeable number of largely white Evangelicals who will answer "yes" to that. You can look this up or ask ChatGPT to give you some studies. So that's the first problem with your post, you're drawing out generalizations based on some propaganda (which can be paid for) you're getting on your feed. Polls aren't perfect but it's at least a bit more "scientific."

>Obviously this doesn't just apply to black people, I just think it's the most pronounced; that "hustler" mindset, this idea that personal gain is revolutionary even, seems to be engrained in black culture.
On the surface, yes, but it's actually a materialist way of looking at things in a way. What's important for survival? Money and resources. Okay it's oriented differently in a society where capitalist values are overwhelming and it's highly individualistic and competitive, but… gib me some of dat. People respond to material pressures, and I'm not sure hustling means allegience to the "system" necessarily. Like you can just take the money.

>All ties back to slavery; black people came to America as property, not "workers". there's like a subconscious fear after generations of trauma that any collective action is against their best interest.
Yeah I don't think that's true at all. Or maybe we define collectivism differently, but I don't know how you read about the history of American radicalism and miss that the backbone of radicals have usually been minority community men, many of them emigres to this country, and blacks. That whole BLM thing? That very much came out of a tradition (relatively Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2499703
It doesn't matter since the only outcome for your retarded muslim natlib movement is an Israeli lead fake ass Palestinian authority recognition and bourgeois peace, do you think Israelis will just kill themselves to make up for the genocide and settlement they did? You must be a fucking quack. See the RECENT trend of WESTERN bourgeois states starting to recognize Palestine, you've gotta be fucking retarded if you think that's out of good will or respecft for the fucking protesters, they're wrapping things up so you can have "Palestine" that will probably be resettled by jewish liberals and whatever resistance groups there are would be too cucked to keep fighting and instead go for a plea deal to continue another "Palestinian authority".

>>2499713
They're hallucinating that the only way to end the genocide is to support islamist natlib uyghurs when it only provokes it, the lion rapes the small dog when it barks and there is zero chance of islamist uyghurs winning on their own UNLESS some other nation directly intervenes to destroy Israel and the US, not like your Cucky China doing trades and aids and writing letters of condemnation then the faggots here acting like every weapon being Made In China is some type of support, its just business but the midwits want to act like heroes. The thing that ended genocide in WW2 was the Red Army invading Germany, so WHO will invade Israel and consequently the US now? Nobody wants to get nuked, conventional war is no longer what it was, it is now an extremely teadious game of geopolitics of who can get away with what without getting fucked like crocodile dentist (picrel). So its a fantasy if you think a great eastern BRICSian power will just Rush B to help Filistine beause if they do it will surely escalate a global war. You don't believe in nukes though, nobody on here does because they've been conditioned by movies and by quotes from retard Mao of "paper tigers" to ignore them. Some retards on here are so retarded they actually think they can survive a nuclear war by going into a bunker, an early sign of lunacy-donquixoteism.

>Not sure if it's just my algo psyoping me

If you use "algorithm driven" social media then you are just voluntary psyopping yourself you rube

Playing the game and committing fully to the capitalist system is the only way for an impoverished under-educated disenfranchised underclass to survive. Having wealth, or at least appearing to have wealth, is the only way to rise above it and be accepted into mainstream society, it's the only way to be respected as a human being.

You've got trolldiga'd

rewrite it in simple English please

Where can I get Bordiga audiobooks. None of the M-L audiobook channels on youtube put out Bordiga stuff. I like listening to books while I get weekend cleaning done.

>>2499640
overnment serves the rich, and voting is a distraction that maintains their power

>>2499640
Leftists sometimes rediscover Aristotle's observation that oligarchy is best upheld through elections.

>spiritually Israeli
True and the mad USApolers can go suck a dick

>>2500574
Did an Israeli ever offer to buy you a new pair of shoes?

>>2499745
Yes, granted, but most of us here also have the self awareness to not pretend like we're the Leninist vanguard

>>2499731
i don't make the rules

>>2499830
Are you new here?

>>2499687
nice show of strength, i hope next time though you'll do something more impactful than walk around and do nothing

>>2499746
>Only bitch ass nerds bother with reciting the difference between a ratchet and a hammer
>Actual prole-chads just grab either and hammer them into the nail
>As long as it works
>>2499746
>Only bitch ass nerds bother with reciting the difference between a ratchet and a hammer
>Actual prole-chads just grab either and hammer them into the nail
>As long as it works
If you use one of my wrenches as a hammer i'll legitimately murder you.

>>2499728
It'll probably be an issue. I've read it was also a problem after World War II but I don't know much about it. There was a famous Soviet crime show (from the 70s) that took place in the early 50s involving detectives trying to stop a mafia.

>>2499697
>Why can’t we do something like this again, wouldn’t a federal jobs program were people do stuff like planting trees, picking up litter, providing disaster relief, or doing food drives help decrease unemployment?
Unemployment is on purpose. They don't want 0 unemployment. They want a reserve army of labor, which means a certain variable amount of unemployment has to be maintained at all times for the "stability" of capitalism.

If there is 0 unemployment, then that means it's harder to replace people when you fire them, or to pick up scabs when people try to unionize. They don't like that. They like a large pool of desperate unemployed people willing to underbid existing employed people for lower wages.

Here's someone admitting it. [Vid]

Real estate CEO Tim Gurner openly advocated for a reserve army of labour during an onstage appearance at the Australian Financial Review’s Property Summit:

>I think the problem that we’ve had is that people have decided they really didn’t want to work so much anymore through COVID, and that has had a massive issue on productivity. . . . They have been paid a lot to do not too much, and we need to see that change. We need to see unemployment rise. Unemployment needs to jump 40-50 percent, in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around. There’s been a systematic change where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around. So it’s a dynamic that has to change. We’ve got to kill that attitude, and that has to come through hurt in the economy.

But also consider that the US/UK literally opposed international legislation that would have pushed Keynesian ideas of full employment:

>Originally GATT was set up as a temporary body to facilitate trade negotiations. The International Trade Organisation (ITO) had instead been created to break down trade barriers, govern trade during negotiations, and resolve trade disputes. The ITO Charter, adopted at the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTE) in 1948, included (among other "leftist" principles) a provision that all nations should maintain full employment. This provision outraged the U.S. and U.K.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>713052
>Why can’t we do something like this again, wouldn’t a federal jobs program were people do stuff like planting trees, picking up litter, providing disaster relief, or doing food drives help decrease unemployment?
Yes. Increased government spending increases inflation and reduces unemployment, and those two things are related by an inverse relationship called the Phillip's curve. Different governments may choose different tradeoffs between inflation and unemployment depending on circumstances and their ideology. During the great depression, the USA had really bad deflation (negative inflation) and extremely high unemployment, so there was overwhelming political will for things like jobs programs that could solve those problems.

Between the start of the neoliberal era and the pandemic, the US government and federal reserve pursued a policy called "The Washington Consensus", which prioritized low inflation at the cost of higher unemployment. Economists now believe that this policy was partially responsible for the lower economic growth and growing inequality that characterized this period, and as a result, the pendulum swung after the 2020 recession and, with a democrat in the white house, interest and lobbying groups such as Employ America pushed for a policy of higher spending in response to the recession. This led to the period between 2021 and 2023, which saw the lowest unemployment rates in the US since 1953. You might remember what this looked like from the inside. A big meme at the time was "no one wants to work anymore", as employers were having trouble finding workers to work at lower wages. This naturally led to higher inflation, which policymakers assumed would either/both be more negligible than what actually happened (partially because of cost-push inflation in some sectors like agriculture caused by an avian flu outbreak) and/or that voters would tolerate it in exchange for a swift end to the recession, in comparison to the years of unemployment and sluggish growth the USA saw in the years after the global financial crisis.

However, voters rebelled hard against inflation, and before Biden was out of the white house US fiscal policy had already shifted to higher interest rates and higher unemployment.

So the answer for why the US government doesn't do another federal jobs program is that inflation makes you lose elections and we're not in a great depression rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>As long as nothing happens to me personally, it isn’t real and I don’t have to worry about it
-every actual working class person

treatlerism is the theory of our times
it answers all your questions

Sorry for the low quality post in advance. There are definitely more communists and other strains of socialists than 10 years ago. Morale was at a record low after the fall of the USSR. Since then, the working class has been buttfucked by capitalism again and again. Material conditions are trending downwards worldwide except for China. In my country, the working class used to claim for privatizations and all that false consciousness stuff. Nowadays, everyone's pro national industry and benefits for the working class. Our communists orgs are also receiving more workers and public attention.

Unfortunately, we're still far from the 20th century. But people are waking up as shit gets shittier.

>>2474273
>The US doesn't have a proletariat
>>2474335
>allowing any random crackhead neo-nazi to buy an assault rifle and gun down a school
Historical materialism shows its not random and gun ownership is tied to bourgeois dictatorship of Jeffrey Epstein rape culture guys (women aren't even allowed to fire a warning shot to deter a man lol):
>Zionist Marxists: "We need guns to do genocide of our goy slaves to protect settlers"
>American Marxists: "We need guns to do genocide of our nonwhite ethnic slaves to protect settlers"

DSA socialists supported their fellow settler ally John Fetterman because they think its good that he is a deputized settler colonialist who can legally run around with a shotgun to threaten random black people for "invading" and "terrorizing" his PMC socialist constituents. There's a reason why the anarchists at the CHAZ explicitly called the black children they murdered "terrorists", they are materially the same as their Israeli counterparts who also see a black child and think "I'm being terrorized!!! I need weapons to protect my woke whites only trans community"

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>>2498979
Again I find this anti-marxist tendency for superstition about the concept of the state in many people here who do not realize that the state is an instrument of oppression of one class against another that result from the irreconciliation of social classes by the contradictions of private property between those are owners against other owners and those without property. There is no sensitive law of arms, this is to give the bourgeois state power to prevent workers from arming in a popular militia free from the bourgeoisie that is necessary to start a communist revolution and defend workers' interests outside police control and the bourgeoisie to intensify class struggle.

Remembering that it is only the dictatorship of the proletariat that will form by the popular councils that can disarm the bourgeoisie, landowners, agents of the capitalist superstructure that maintain the bourgeoisie in power, agents of the capitalist state, counterarevolutionaries and all who deny the political domination of the proletariat. Not to mention workers' training for conflict with weapons and defense of an invasion by imperialists it will be necessary for workers if they hope to consolidate the dictatorship of the proletariat to socialize the economy that will need expropriations and defense of this collective property of imperialists and sabotagers.

There is no revolution or dictatorship of the proletariat without arming as many workers as possible with weapons, and anyone who denies this is betraying revolutionary socialism for fear of the chaos necessary to intensify the class struggle. Whether the petty bourgeoisie and lumpenproletariat engage in shootings is irrelevant because the proletarian state has not yet been established.

Here is an example of Marx speaking about arming workers against the petty bourgeoisie who will try to consolidate power:

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>>2499299
Wrong. All countries have proletariat, including Israel and the United States, even the labor aristocracy is only a minority that exists in the workers' movement to weaken it, but they would also win if other workers get more victories fighting their collective interests.

Let's see what Lenin talks about the labor aristocracy and if his explanation fits what you say of resenting against the first world workers clinging to a moralistic view rather than seeing the collective class interest of the proletariat with all the workers of the world in solidarity:

<In a letter to Marx, dated October 7, 1858, Engels wrote: “…The English proletariat is actually becoming more and more bourgeois, so that this most bourgeois of all nations is apparently aiming ultimately at the possession of a bourgeois aristocracy and a bourgeois proletariat alongside the bourgeoisie. For a nation which exploits the whole world this is of course to a certain extent justifiable.” In a letter to Sorge, dated September 21, 1872, Engels informs him that Hales kicked up a big row in the Federal Council of the International and secured a vote of censure on Marx for saying that “the English labour leaders had sold themselves”. Marx wrote to Sorge on August 4, 1874: “As to the urban workers here [in England], it is a pity that the whole pack of leaders did not get into Parliament. This would be the surest way of getting rid of the whole lot.” In a letter to Marx, dated August 11, 1881, Engels speaks about “those very worst English trade unions which allow themselves to be led by men sold to, or at least paid by, the bourgeoisie.” In a letter to Kautsky, dated September 12, 1882, Engels wrote: “You ask me what the English workers think about colonial policy. Well, exactly the same as they think about politics in general. There is no workers’ party here, there are only Conservatives and Liberal-Radicals, and the workers gaily share the feast of England’s monopoly of the world market and the colonies.”

<On December 7, 1889, Engels wrote to Sorge: “The most repulsive thing here [in England] is the bourgeois ‘respectability’, which has grown deep into the bones of the workers…. Even Tom Mann, whom I regard as the best of the lot, is fond of mentioning that he will be lunching with thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2489129
mental illnesses are a fascist myth

if you would consider the One Commandment