/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1939607
A lot, actually. Poltards have eyes, they and almost everyone else can see that things are generally getting worse in most areas of life. However, poltards keep on the side of bourgeois consciousness, and this means that they're not in control over their own mind. They're thrashed by the wind and carried to places they really don't want to be, just like regular and radical liberals. The Nazi party was famously inconsistent and self-contradicting. They don't really have beliefs, just whatever works out right now.
Poltards are also just terrible politically speaking, there's a reason why Thiel and others hate them.

>>1939607
Materialist analysis of how tight is your mom

>>1939607
Zigger thread

>>1939638
the real truth is that the sky is blue independent of The Jews, who are not in a conspiracy to make it blue, what are you talking about

Firefighters continue battle against more than 100 blazes burning in the US
In northern California, the Park fire grew at ferocious speeds to become one of the largest wildfires in the state this year. In southern California, a blaze swept through the historic mining town of Havilah. And in Oregon and Idaho, authorities were assessing the damage caused by several large wildfires raging there.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/29/100-wildfires-burning

Federal appeals court rules against Missouri’s waiting period for ex-lawmakers to lobby
The 8th District Court of Appeals panel found that the ethics law, enacted by voters through a constitutional amendment in 2018, violated the free-speech rights of former legislators-turned-lobbyists trying to sway their successors. Supporters of the two-year ban on lobbying were attempting to stop lawmakers and Capitol employees from misusing their political influence in hopes of landing well-paying lobbying jobs.
https://apnews.com/article/lobbying-ethics-missouri-lawmaker-40ff2f50fca5be158813f01eb823a367

US President Joe Biden unveils proposals to reform the Supreme Court
The reforms, which would need to be passed by Congress, include setting Supreme Court justices’ terms at 18 years and establishing a stricter ethics code for them, similar to that governing federal judges. Biden is also urging for a constitutional amendment that would undermine the Supreme Court’s recent ruling backing Donald Trump’s claims to presidential immunity.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/29/us-president-joe-biden-unveils-proposals-to-reform-the-supreme-court
https://archive.is/3MQ6X

>>1939637
>Israeli soldiers suspected of raping Palestinian prisoner arrested, sparking far-right riot
The far right standing up for their heroes

Thank you based News Anon!

Sir Kid Starver declares war on the working class
Keir Starmer laid down a marker in Westminster last night, and sent a clear message to the working class and the capitalists alike: his Labour Party is no home for left-wingers, and no representative of workers and youth. In a parliamentary vote relating to the government’s legislative programme, as outlined in the King’s Speech, seven Labour MPs supported a SNP amendment calling for the abolition of the two-child benefit cap. In the end, the SNP motion was defeated by 363 votes to 103, demonstrating Starmer’s large majority in the House of Commons. There was no need for Starmer to whip the vote. Nevertheless, the seven Labour rebels – including left-wing backbenchers like John McDonnell, Richard Burgon, Apsana Begum, and Zarah Sultana – were all unceremoniously suspended from the parliamentary party for their open opposition. The purpose of this punishment is unambiguous: to tell the Labour ranks that dissent will not be tolerated; and to reassure the ruling class that Sir Kid Starver is their loyal servant, willing to go to any lengths to defend the interests of the bosses and bankers.
https://communist.red/sir-kid-starver-declares-war-on-the-working-class/

The Economy Isn’t Actually Good for Workers Right Now
For months, media pundits and Biden campaign operatives have been scratching their heads attempting to describe why, given all the measures that seem to indicate a strong economy, people think it’s bad. Paul Krugman has been trotting out one flummoxed opinion piece after another, bemoaning the fact that, despite evidence that the economy is “in remarkably good shape,” ordinary people just don’t see it that way. Pundits’ obsessive focus on this question was understandable. With a presidential election looming, Kamala Harris’s campaign and Democratic leaders are rightly concerned about one of the “laws” of political science: presidential incumbents’ electoral performance is strongly linked to voters’ perceptions of their own economic fortunes. With a sitting vice president on the ticket, how people feel about the economy heading into November will likely impact who wins the US presidential election. From a 30,000-foot perspective, Democrats appear to be on solid economic footing: strong employment numbers anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

>>1939041
>The ROC was famously a backwater colony and not an established bourgeois nation state.
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>>1939070
not like in a stablished bourgeois nation state other classes besides the proletariat wouldn't take part in the revolution

>>1939072
They do, and we often call it a coup.

>>1939041
>something something accumulation
How would you describe the early Soviet state from 1917-1928? Were the Russian national and petty-bourgeoisies not subordinated to the leadership of the workers and Communist Party, yet still in existence? As they do not simply evaporate, they will have a role in the initial formation of the new economy. I'll post this line again since it might take two readings for you to properly recognize and digest it:
>The proletariat needs state power, a centralized organization of force, an organization of violence, both to crush the resistance of the exploiters and to lead the enormous mass of the population - the peasants, the petty bourgeoisie, and semi-proletarians - in the work of organizing a socialist economy.

>The ROC was famously a backwater colony and not an established bourgeois nation state.
Though definitely more developed than China, Russia was far and away not a developed bourgeois state. They were still largely feudal with limited capitalist development.

>>1939072
>other classes besides the proletariat wouldn't take part in the revolution
There isn't a single revolution in history where this is true. Pure idealism.

>>1939053
>FRSO was the remnant of the Pro-Deng faction of the American New Communist Movement no?
A large part of its formation was that, yes, but it also absorbed much of the Hoxhaist trend after the collapse of Socialist Albania, and today the pro-Deng faction of the NCM and the Hoxhaists are barely distinguishable in practice, at least in the US.

>>1937796
>why?
Cause there are so many religioids and reactionaries on here they won't accept that state atheism makes people superhuman.

>>1938244
i kno how senitiv ur noblman hands r lmao

>>1937607
>>1936706
>>1936701
>>1937267
Many here are missing the point OP made. It was never claimed that the passage from one mode of production to another was ever peaceful, just that it wasn't always revolutionary. Slave revolts and peasants revolts are violent acts and they were happening CONSTANTLY in Ancient times and in the Middle Ages. A revolution is a specific form of violent transformation that implies national projection (not localized), some kind of tacit or explicit program, political objectives, a more or less structured millitary, the organizacion of parties, etc. These things were commonplace in the XIX century, they are not now; I don't think this means that history has stopped, just that we will only get a clear grasp of the specific form of a transition away from capitalism once it has already happened.
Slave revolts weren't entirely unsuccesful though. A big reason why the slave mode of production ended was because slaves constantly revolting made things difficult to the slave owner. Similarly, the bourgeoisie revolutions were manned by peasants dissatisfied with the feudal system.

>>1938501
Progress acelerates though. The ancient mode of production lasted for thousands of years. The Middle Ages were one thousand only. Capitalism hasn't existed for more than four hundred years being generous.


>>1938538
Then maybe the goal should be to design cooperatives that outcompete capitalist businesses or have a socialist nation outcompete capitalist nations with national economic planning. Once we lay that foundation, a revolution is much more likely and it will actually be following the general laws posed by historical materialism. Socialism should be the liberation of the productive forces, this means it should be evidently more efficient than capitalism, not less.


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>>1939357
Quite sure OP point was that capitalism would fade away by itself, or just transition to another mode of production. But OP's historical examples of transitions are at most oversimplified.
But well, revolutions are not just revolts, they are change in general. The transition from feudalism to capitalism was in itself a revolution; it was a radical change in the mode of production and in the power dynamics. Now, sure, it didn't happen overnight, it was a long and complex transition, but it was revolutionary in the sense that it changed the mode of production.
Now, maybe OP's point is that a transition from capitalism won't be a thing that will just happen at once all over the world, but a long and ardous movement that will have it's drawbacks and will need a continous struggle, and I must say, in regards to that, I agree.
Historically speaking, and by the examples that different anons have pointed out, the change from a mode of production to another can take some time, at least globally.
But again, that doesn't mean that "revolutions", in the leninist or marxists way of putting it, don't work, but they are just a part of what may be the global transition from capitalism to socialism, or other mode of production.
Only problem about this realization is the fact that with the global crises that the world is dealing with, sometimes it feels like we don't have the time fo wait for a full transitiom from capitalism.

>>1938196
ive been lookin for third pic for so long thank you

>>1939498
OP wasn't making a point that capitalism would fade away by itself, they were asking why it wouldn't. There's a difference between asking a question and having an opinion.

>I'm going to risk everything I have and side with the violent mob that wants to kill me just to spite my neighbor that is just like me but I dislike because he sometimes plays his music too loud
you are wasting your time thinking about this extremely unlikely scenario

>>1924553
True but bring this up to any "communist" and they will say "THEY ARE ALL OUR ENEMIES WE CANT PRETEND TO SUPPORT ONE AGAINST THE OTHER TO PLAY THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER"
Western communists are retarded and only countries like China know how to play the game even if they probably sold out by now.

>>1924620
None of that was a "concession", certainly not to labor. What labor got out of it was that its leadership - union bosses, mafia types, men of the people, etc. - were paid off and got their piece of the action, which has always been an expedient of ruling institutions in civilization. This wasn't a trade-off between classes, but the favored interests paying off those who would advance the program, who were already amenable to the way things were.

What FDR really did with his social spending is what Keynes described - circulating money to basically dig holes and fill them for seemingly no purpose, so that the debits and credits appear to line up. Social Security brought in more money for the government than it ever paid out, and this is the design of it. To this day, the tax collected and income from that tax is more than all of the benefits that have been paid out throughout its existence. The tax is paid by someone, but since the money isn't real, and the things the favored classes valued weren't money but assets, it has always been the workers being taxed to pay for a promise that they'd be paid when they are old or disabled. That's a shitty deal for labor that is starving now.

Other than that, FDR is building things like schools and an army - useful things that the state would very much want. He's building the apparatus that can choke the country and the world. That was always the purpose of it, understood to anyone who paid attention. It's not a concession for him to build schools, as if this is a service. The state wants schools and industry for its purposes, and found a way to eliminate their dependence on competitors. The oligarchy had a hammerlock on all social promotion and threw that in your face. That's simply what it did, for perfectly understandable reasons if you're in FDR's position. Those who didn't like it came from various angles, most of them from the opposing conservative order who had a Nazifetisch and couldn't give it up, and FDR is telling them to stop being stupid and get over themselves. The ordinary people who got crushed, well, they weren't long for this world. And, so it happened.

There is a need to make a struggle where there really wasn't one. So far as there was a struggle, it was for position in the institutions, at the expense of those outside of them. America before this was hardly an iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

As far as the people outside of this structure cared, when the state offered free money, you learned to take, and not think too long about your pride and standing - because you had none, and never would. Anything the people down here really valued, they could only hold onto against an enemy that had asserted what the world would be, and they had no one on their side. Their very existence became inadmissible, replaced with this parodic model of them - always the most degraded version of the working man. It just so happened that it was indeed what the workers were - opportunists who got anything because they kicked down the lowest class and shunted us, more and more readily. The workers didn't have it in them, weren't any good. The only people who really wanted it to be different were the lowest class, and everyone hates us. Hates them. We're the last people who will ever win anything, by design of every ruling idea ever known. If we did win, they start screeching like maniacs, as if it were a crime against Nature.

>>1928931
obviously meant "concession" in the sense of "threw them a bone to chew on and distract them from class struggle" not as in something genuinely good. We get it, you're Taxed Enough Already pilled

>>1939343
USSR had very little to do with a soviet democracy. Soviet congress was a rubber stamp institution for the party leadership.

Womp womp parasite. Work sets you free.

the Stalin totalitarian propaganda and its consequences have been a disaster to the human race

sounds like succdems begging for imperialist scraps. how exactly are you supposed to defend social gains when conditions change if you dont have some sort of industrial developmentalist policy? where are the resources going to come from?

>>1922381
Some Third Worldist westerners genuinely do not even believe that class struggle exists in the so-called Global South. They straight up think that the sole primary contradiction in our societies is the pernicious influence of "The West", and that the job of communists in the third world isn't to agitate for the revolution of the working class, but to support local nationalist bourgeois forces if those forces have an anti-western character.
Beneath the facade of being so concerned for our exploitation and behind all this performance of western guilt that they put on, what is actually concealed is pure chauvinism: do not fight for your class interests, third world worker, fight so that I western third worldist can find fulfillment in seeing my government lose, because I surely will never carry out the fight against my government myself.

>>1930710
>church
An assembly.
Neat.

>>1933057
succdem on deez nuts

>>1922381
Some of it is modern russian propaganda

Are Israelis reactionary anticommunists? They yap about their reparations from PRL so much.

>>1938051
>>1938051
>Israelis reactionary
These things are interchangeable

>>1925639
what happened in the Polish zone? we dont hear so much about what they did in Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_involvement_in_the_Iraq_War

>>1925639
Takiego Irakijczyka trzeba kochać całym sercem.

>>1938070
Wow seriously?

>>1937763
yeah the lack of a built in text outline in GIMP is annoying af but at least doing it manually with layers you have more control. You can do unique brush outlines, unique fill outlines, gradient outlines, multiple outlines, nested outlines etc, you just have to get creative

>>1764710
Meme made by someone who has never done anything hard in his life. If you had any clue how hard it is to climb Everest you wouldn't think about the miniscule amount of waste it causes in places no-one would ever see anyway if they weren't trying to climb it. There's a million places that are polluted and filled with junk by lazy wastes of space who don't think of anything but themselves, however climbing Everest takes years of training your body. I do agree there are a lot of rich scumbags who don't have the right to be climbing it endangering the locals as well as the search and rescue though. Thankfully a lot of those pieces of shit can be immortalized in rainbow valley for their hubris.

>>1938481
I don't see how these things connect.
Yes, the problem with stupid people doing dangerous things is precisely that others get endangered. Mountaineering being a prime example.

>>1938179
if GIMP had some kind of automatic macro thing it'd be OK. like if you could tell it "hey do these sequences of operations every time something changes in this layer group"

>>1938555
There are only four documents indicating the number of BT victims: Zubkin's certificate, Pavlov's certificate, Rudenko's letter, Pospelov's report.

All these documents bear traces of falsification, namely:

- Pavlov's certificate was signed by a non-existent official;

- Rudenko's letter (both copies) contains an error in Khrushchev's position and numerous traces of erasure, including in the figures given;

- Zubkin's reference and Pavlov's report contain an error in the dating of the beginning of the BT, characteristic of Nazi propaganda literature.

Stalinist copers and their low quality threads, name a better duo.

>>1938558
It didn't happen but it should have.

Yeah yeah and Bukharin lives on the moon with Janis Joplin