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The presidential elections in Poland are coming soon, which means that it's time for me to bitch about this place (or more exactly the people that reside in it, which science still has not fully been able to describe the behaviorism of) again.

Of course, the Poles, being a classified reaKKKtionary group will cast their votes for the candidate that they (wrongly) believe is the right one, and while most likely the uninspired liberal Trzaskowski will win, this election also sees (so far) a rise in the popularity of a right wing agent of Satan candidate Mentzen (his name is German - that already is an ill omen)

I guess people deciding to caste their vote for the KKKlandidate from KKKonfederacja is bad enough, but currently he has 3rd place in most polls (which are a shit source of info, at least in Poland, but his supporters are loud at least). Like his memes say, he might actually have a higher chance of beating PO's Trzaskowski if he gets to the 2nd turn (which he likely won't). Of course the postulates are the same old rightoid spiel - low taxes, privatize stuff, shit that would never help any common prole (which is funny because common cis male proles are his biggest electorates, followed by teenagers and young adults with delusions of grandeur and entrepreneurial success)

In true Polish fashion there is no real good candidate, maybe Razem's Zandberg who actually has leftist postulates, criticized Israel (uncommon among Polish politics even though the population is like 80% anti-Israel at least), ran the pre-www Polish section of the Marxist Internet Archive as a teenager. But then, Razem is a socdem party through and through - unless Zandberg somehow gets elected and randomly brings back the Polish People's Republic.
His biggest supporters are actually among academic young adults, most of studentoid friends of mine actually vote for him.

Sometimes I wonder what CIA programming Poles went through to just go "jezu komunis" at any leftist postulate and causes them to react towards nazism (speaking of - plenty more nazi stickers around my place recently, being Polish and a nazi has to be a new suicide cult)

tl;dr the Poles have had it too good for long enough.
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>>2293662
>stop the press!
is being wanted for criminal prosecution in Russia a common thing for polish politicians because if so thats hilarious

>>2293636
Belorrussians got access to the juche Ancient divination bones

>>2294009
From what I’ve read a lot of leftists voted tactically for the center-right candidate, so that explains it a little. Still wtf

>>2294282

If only juche necromancy was advanced enough to wake up our Respected Vladimir Ilych.

>>2294288
It's not as simple, 60% of poles (100% of 50+ old folks) are caught in the hate spiral between christian solidarist right wing (marching towards maga-style conservatism), and neoliberal center right (ex-liberal on social issues). The christian solidarist right (last 10 years) was taking a role of what socdem parties (rabid polish anticommunism made that impossible) do in normal countries, high employement keynesian policy but fucked up post-covid.
Third place (15%, 40% of young people) is a tiktok candidate, a thatcherite "lets crash this mess but also fuck immigrants and poor leeches" so both major players were both trying to capture this group of voters. Which also lets the hoppian neofash candidate (6%) (the menora+fire estingusiher guy) gain ground because why vote for the cheap imitation where the real guy is on the ballot.

When it comes to the left in Poland. it's completely fucked in the head. SLD (left) was ruling 25 years ago (neoliberalism was hip back then) but atrophied to ~5% support, the other fraction of leftist thought in poland is an alt-left socdems, that also got ~5% of support (30% of young people).
As a sidenote there also is a dead-center (faux-christian, made in a thinktank) centrist party that collapsed from 15% support in the parlimentary to 5%, they were 5th before the two leftists, there also were few 1-2% jokesters (record number of candidates).
The presidential election has a runoff system so the two hates spiral parties got to the runoff and the the electorates of other people split. But president here is mostly a socialite with veto power so it's a great spectacle but not that significant.



 

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>>2293967
The ol "Good Tsar, Bad Boyars" approach

At least we owned the libs by making everyone’s lives worse

>>2291925
heh. exxon mobil made chevron to cuck. I hope they end up selling their company for a 1/10th the price to another oil company.

apparently a flamethrower was used in the colorado "attack"? i thought it was just molotov cocktails?

>>2293077
>Why did he take his shirt off?
Obvs so he didn't burn himself incase his clothes caught fire.



 

The Frankfurt School refracted Gramsci’s materialist theory of hegemony through the lens of Freudian psychoanalysis, Weberian cultural pessimism, and idealism, effectively mutating it into a bourgeois theory of subjectivity rather than a tool of working class revolution.

Hegemony is not just cultural dominance or consent, it’s the means by which the ruling class stabilizes its rule through a combination of coercion and consent. It is rooted in material social relations, especially those between the base (economy) and the superstructure (institutions, ideology, culture). Gramsci believed organic intellectuals of the proletariat could construct a counterhegemonic bloc, capable of transforming the state and society. Regardless of your stance on this view (I personally don't even like Gramsci), instead of building on Gramsci’s materialist framework, thinkers like Adorno, Horkheimer, and later Marcuse, recentered hegemony around mass psychology and alienation (drawing heavily from Freud rather than Marx), framed culture as a site of despair rather than a terrain of struggle (see shit like "The Culture Industry"), treated the working class as passive consumers of ideology rather than active agents, moved the critique from economic structures to academic shit like "rationality," "instrumentality," and "false needs". This flattened hegemony into a totalizing force of domination, where resistance is nearly impossible and mass culture is always regressive.

The Frankfurt School’s pessimistic, psychoanalytically-infused marxism domesticated Gramsci, turning a strategic theory of proletarian advance into a fatalistic theory of cultural rot. This led to even further academic detachment from revolutionary politics, moralist critiques of culture (music, film, advertising) with little class analysis and the foundation for much of radlibbery which fixates on subjectivity, identity, language, and desire while neglecting the material mode of production. In effect, it helped divorce marxism from its historical and class-based roots.
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>>2293365
>He’s a lens for understanding why capital lets you tell stories about rebellion, etc in the first place, and how that defuses actual revolt.
More importantly he describes the processes by which the ruling class establishes the material basis for their cultural supremacy so that real revolts don't occur.

séx with the uyghurs

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so many posts on here regularly complaining about how they hate frankfurt school and philosophy and cultural critique etc etc okay, okay, whatever. why not talk about what you do find useful or interesting? talk about your organizing successes or failures?

Something something German socialists writing under the text of others



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So in short, I was born into a very big bourgeois family here in my country, im not talking upper middle class im talking about having control over a giant ass company that reaches nationwide with the other half of my family being filled with rich politicians, how the fuck do I get organized without looking like a fucking hypocrite or retard???
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>>2289807
donating to unions & lgbt support groups is a good idea of the top of my head

Uphold Marxism-Beyonceism

>>2293660
Wrong
All your money to Palestinian support groups or you are a reactionary

Honestly, don't. Start a charity, volunteer for a soup kitchen, adopt an orphan, do whatever you feel will clean your conscience.

Now if you want to larp as an Engels, be my guest.

>>2289832
>You're probably from a quality bloodline
I'm literal royalty and I think you're a faggot



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>>2293624
Putin look much more funny get real

Nah Zelensky has these really dramatic unsaturated photos of him looking like he has a slapped arse in the western media to emphasise that he is a tragic figure, being an actor pressed into being a war time leader, that’s his meme

Tell me chuds. Have there been any happenings? Or is the cuck still cucking out?


>>2293566
you have no idea how ukrainians talk about european libs that allowed black and brown inmigrants to arrive the EU from Syria, Libya, Sudan, Niger and other areas where they themselves were part of their homes destruction.
they literally talk that they are the torch that will make europe white again, and the beacon of the white dream in europe, and that they have to do it by all means, by force if necessary.



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Have any of you pretentious uyghurs even read this shit? You can not tell me with a straight face that this man is a Marxist. It‘s just nationalism, collaborationism and cultural idealism.
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>>2292205
>if liberal state that kills workers fall Marxism is doomed
>unironically using the word logic in his """"Marxist""""" critique

>>2292417
>being socialist is a spectrum
If only MLs read theory as much as reddit comments

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>>2292205
>A Marxist supports China regardless of whether it is Real Communist or not because it's insanely progressive
lol, lmao even

>>2293510
>kills workers
What are you talking about?

>>2293255
You talk as if that's not a popular talking point from "ML"s these days



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For real, uyghaz, did anyone used the mainstream economic theory to defend socialism and communism instead of appealing to heterodox economic schools? Or mainstream economics is just pure apologetics for capitalism?
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>>2292830
Political satire is dead

classical liberalism:
>The philosopher John Locke also wrote reports on how to deal with the children of the poor: ‘The children of the labouring people are an ordinary burthen to the parish and are usually maintained in idleness, so that their labour also is lost to the public till they are 12 or 14 years old.’ The conclusion drawn by Locke (left) was that poor children should be put to work at three years old with a bellyful of bread daily, supplemented in cold weather by ‘a little warm water-gruel’. Locke’s views were not extraordinary at the time
>>2292622
>Only clowns try to say evolution is wrong. Only clowns try to say Marx is wrong.
When you apply the theory of Darwinism, you can create fascist eugenics. When people apply Marxist theory, it can also be flawed and following in reactionary bourgeois ideology like Malthusianism etc

>>2292622
>Mel Blanc
Don't get the reference sorry

>>2293156
Voice of many classic Looney Tunes characters inlcluding Porky Pig.

>>2292850
>Marx is the Darwin of economics.
Is that why modern China, the most powerful socialist nation in the world, has "revised" his theories so much, to the point where they've created social democracy from first principles?



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Why was after the fall of the Soviet Union the West still hostile towards Russia? Aren‘t they both capitalist now? Didn‘t Russia try to be cooperative with the West until Putin made a U-turn a bit more than a decade ago? What great contradiction is there between Western bourgeoisie and Russian bourgeoisie for there to be such a conflict?
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>>2292111
>Nothing short of carving up russia into smaller countries will satisfy the west.
yes, Yugoslavia is the model going forward for Russia and China. Imperialists wants to balkanize their enemies into feuding ethnostates.

>>2289056
this video is pretty reasonable and NAFO libs still seethe about it

NATO = NAZI

it really is that simple!

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>>2289065
Russia should destroy the west but its led by a fucking cuckcicle.



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Why are there so many people on the right that are poor and call themselves rednecks vote for Rich billionaires like Donald Trump they’ll never help them with healthcare or anything like that and doesn’t care about the farm workers that’s why democracy is a scam The only way you can spark real change is with a violent revolution endpoint
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>>2291678
ive seen your sinophobic anti-communist posts. you are a liberal who should be perma banned. poor people actually support trump as well as rich.

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>>2291763
>ive seen your sinophobic anti-communist posts. you are a liberal who should be perma banned.
Which is why you can't link to a single post to prove that, so I guess your faggot ass is shit out of luck.
>poor people actually support trump as well as rich.
Poor people support no one and either do not or cannot vote or do any sort of political action. The universal condition of the poor under liberal democracy is one of apathy. Instead of conceding to that fact, you are hell-bent on portraying poor people as nazis, because that's your wish, your agenda and your politics.

>call themselves redneck
well there you go for every surburban wigga there's also a surburbanite larping as there idea of what a redneck is. mfers deadass dressed in denim head to too with carhartt and cowboys hats to go work at there dads small business lol. Both are just putting on a costume of cultural signifiers they picked up from pop culture in a vapid attempt at finding something resembling personality or personal identity. Wigga, fake redneck or hottopic emo are basically the 3 premade personality types available to surburboids w/o any personality or culture of there own. If someone is basing there style and mannerisms off starter pack memes and aesthetics I think it makes sense they would vote for the guy who is all vibes and aesthetics with zero fucking substance(just like them)

I thought that avatarfagging was banned?

>>2291536
A few things
<extreme levels of propaganda
>reactionary petty bourg that call themselves "workers"
<opposition being incompetent and not pro-worker enough
>religion



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Nietzsche, first of all – began to undermine communist ideology.
<‘Whom do I detest most, among the modern scoundrels? The Socialist scoundrels – the apostles of the mob, who intrigue against the workers’ instinct, contentment and feeling of satisfaction with their modest life – who make the workers envious, and teach them revenge.’
(The Will To Power)
<Socialism ‘is for the most part a symptom of the fact that we are treating the lower classes too humanely, so that they get a taste of the happiness forbidden to them… It is not hunger that causes revolution; it is the fact that when the people begin to eat they acquire larger appetites.’
(Ibid)

So - the exploited classes would be at ease with their poverty, if it wasn't for socialist agitators; and it is not material poverty that causes revolt, it's people daring to imagine a better life.

No, these philosophies are not compatible. Let me reminder all idiots here that you don't get to pick and choose when it comes to Marxism. You take it as a totality, as a totalitarian philosophy of life, or you don't accept it at all.
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>>2290037
Nah, you still subscribe to bourgeois morality in which "lowly" emotions such as envy are seen as distasteful, thus you try to distance yourself by claiming a scientific detachment.

In the class war, all weapons and tools are good. Yes, I envy the the bourgeoisie's ability to perform unalienated labor. At the same time, I want not just that, but also not to be on the leash of capital like they are.

>>2290343
the remnants of the bourgeoisie will be the dalits of lower stage communism, and under full communism society will change to such a degree that all speculation is pointless

and i'm ok with that

>>2291703
>never brought up morality or its social context in the post
kys retarded moralist

>>2290343
>"In order to create a stable societal system and some cohesion between its members, some people will need to be part of an underclass, some people will need to be reviled by all the other members of such society, a society always have its internal enemies. Look at the Dalits, they are even forbidden to drink clean water. You, who want to improve humanity with a new cohesive system, is that truly what you want?"
>This is my interpretation of it, and I'm not pretending it's perfect. I'm not even saying it's very deep, or that it's a transhistorical truth and therefore a reason to abandon any attempt at transforming society.
>However, it still gave me food for thought, because thinking about it, I can't think of a modern society which don't or didn't have some form of Dalits. I think it's for such passages that some anarchists found inspiration in Nietzsche while rejecting its reactionary aspects too.
You have to basically not be a marxist, or horribly misunderstand marxism in order for any of this to come off as anything but meaningless idealistic drivel.
No class analysis, no materialism, no mention of modes of production, just "uhhh… you have to have an underclass for a stable society" ← unsobstantiated assertion out the ass.

Btw, Nietzsche's answer to "is that truly what you want?" is "Yes, obviously. Now stop being a feckless moralfagging liberal and embrace mastery". Stupid liberals look at his critiques of morality, reason, capital, etc., and go "woah… so deep… what do we do about this..? much to ponder…", ignoring the parts where these critiques are IN SERVICE of an answer he already has in mind: intelligently organized slave society.

Nietzsche did have a system. His system was run of the mill class society.
He talks a bunch of shit, but these two passages give it away pretty much.
"Masters shouldn't fight each other, and slaves shouldn't be abused to such an extent that they revolt". That's basically liberalism, no?
Guy was basically an edgy liberal who wanted to warn other liberals that moralfaggotry will lead them to lose the ruling position, and that to avoid such a fate they must become super edgy slave master uppermenschen



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