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Maryland politics

Politics pertaining to maryland

For the discussion maryland and its future

Maryland residents prefered

Why is there no maryland meme flag?
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I used go live in the Baltimore area. Does that count?

What's with those half US, half confederate flags everywhere? It's been 150 years, pick a damn side already.
Also Old Bay sucks

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>>2598864
Last time I was there my first experience was at a train station hearing this dude talking to some other dudes about shooting people like he was Soulja Boy. He was doing the moves.

>>2598864
Why is there no general for Baden-Württemberg?



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Britpol 's unconcerned with cornish republicanism, we cornu holio have been occupied by brits for 1000s of years, we WANT A REPUBLIC.
FUCK THE UK Kernow Bys Vyken
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>>2617131
The guy is this video is literally an open fascist by the way.
He's an American Jew who immigrated to the UK, he's an ultra Zionist, a white nationalist, and an fascist with some autistic obsession on "saving" the Welsh and Cornish people.

This is the Cornish leftist group btw who you should be following if you are interested in Cornish liberation https://sordya.net/


>>2617123
This holds as a general rule, but shouldn't really. The cluster of German speaking countries independent of one another, the failure of Pan-Arabism, and perfectly viable small-scale states like Singapore all speak to the possibility of having somewhat arbitrary states.
(Though Britain is probably best compared to Yugoslavia. Just because they all speak "Serbo-Croatian" doesn't mean they like each other!)


>>2617106
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions of the UK (and with that, one of the poorest in Northern Europe)
The old, rich people are holiday home owners giving the people who live in Cornwall all year the worst of both worlds: low incomes, high house prices and rent.

>>2617282
There are several smaller independent countries. Perhaps we should weigh the US's population against China and India and conclude that it, too, is tiny and irrelevant.



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>Israel has recognised Somaliland, a breakaway region of Somalia, as an "independent and sovereign state," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Friday, making Israel the first country to do so.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-recognises-somaliland-somalias-breakway-region-independent-state-2025-12-26/

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These are the christian nigerians trump is so desperately "protecting"

>>2617224
that is really sad, you can see how cruel his parents are
hopefully the kid will get the emotional support they need in the future

>>2617224
That's brutal. Not only do your parents diss you but now you'll probably get bullied at school for not having a BBC

Hope whichever faction is genociding the Christians is successful



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I've been on this site long enough to get a superficial understanding of Marxist politics, but I've officially passed the Dunning-Krueger peak, where I've realized how superficial that knowledge is. So in an attempt to deepen my understanding of the subject, I have a few questions.

People say that gradual reforms won't work, with the cited reason being that, so long as the bourgeois element is allowed to exist in any significant capacity, it will burrow its way into government and reassert control. But doesn't China disprove that? Their entire plan is to gradually reform their market economy into "full" socialism.

On that note, from what I understand, "capitalism has inherent contradictions that will lead to its downfall" is really just a fancy way of saying that the relationship between the bourgeois and proletariat is an antagonistic one, and eventually the proletariat will get fed up with it and assert control. But is this actually a given? I could easily see a scenario where technology allows the bourgeois to assert permanent control, using robots to replace the proletariat and surveillance and weapons to quell any opposition. I could also see the opposite happening, where capitalism keeps rewinding itself to earlier states indefinitely, creating a situation where life is "good enough" that people don't feel the need to rebel.

Dialectics in general confuse me. Every time I think I have a grasp on them, I'll have someone else loudly proclaim that I'm wrong. If I ask for correction, the explanation provided is so long-winded and convoluted that I end up with more questions than answers. Can someone please give me a basic, working definition of what dialectics are in the context of Marxism? They seem so fundamental to Marxist analysis, and without understanding them, I don't feel like I can actually properly understand any of what I'm looking at.

Finally, I frequently hear people say that we're going to be entering a China lead multipolar world order. That sounds like like a (logical) contradiction to me. Doesn't the term "multipolar" imply multiple leaders?

Note that I don't ask these questions with any ideology in mind. I find much of what I read here incredibly confusing, and my ignorance has been punished enough that I figured it's high-time I do something about it.

>inb4 read a book

I plan to do that as well. I just thought I'd come to you guys so I have a startinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2616729
>per capita
Read my post again. CAPITALISTS (not billionaires/millionaires - the first is a relation to the MoP, the second is a description of how much cash money you have; one is a social relation, the other is not) as a POLITICAL CLASS. You are fucking poison to the movement, dude.

>>2616736
Cause it's capitalist. Wage labor.

>>2617050
>I ask every leftcom this and never get an answer, so try to keep up.
>There was a planned economy. Therefore, there was no unemployment. Therefore, there was no labor market. Labor power was not a commodity. Therefore, there was no generalized commodity production. If labor power is not a commodity, then the surplus appropriated (which acts as a reproduction fund, read the Gotha Critique) was not appropriated in a capitalist way. The social division of labor wasn't forced by arbitrary market dynamics; it was planned. So where is the capitalism? Where? Can you show me the capitalist class—as a political body—appropriating surplus via wage-work? You can't. That’s the issue: you are hallucinating critiques based on false narratives from bourgeois alphabet agencies.

>>2615896
>Robots could produce surplus
Value is socially necessary abstract human labor. Machines, whether automated or “self-reproducing” do not create new value. They only transfer the value already embodied in them. If production becomes fully automated, the value of commodities tends toward zero, because the socially necessary labor time tends toward zero.

>>2617234
I think we fundamentally agree but you think the logic of capitalism would break down under a full automated system and there would be no way for the capitalist to extract the surplus value.



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The more you read into the history of Stalin and Trotsky and their respective followers, the more you will realize that Stalin was right and Trotsky was at best an idealistic retard and at worst a literal fascist collaborator that literally wanted Nazi Germany to destroy the USSR.

Trotsky was basically an Osama Bin Laden type figure that railed against Stalin because Stalin didn't immediately abolish the state, abolish the family, pursue muh "permanent revolution" aka embroil the USSR into ill-fated wars and other idealist bullshit that had no basis in the actual material conditions of the time. How dare that Stalin works worth the material conditions and historical context and develop the state to advance proletarian interests – it's all "bureaucracy" and Trotsky is out of power so therefore Stalin must go and he must literally be assassinated (This Trotsky advocated for).

After all this it becomes clear the justification for Stalin's "purges" of these terrorist assholes trying to destroy the USSR. It's amazing that the USSR survived WW2 and constant subversion from these pseudo-fascist retards. It's a testament to Stalin's strength and competence that this is so.
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Koba was right

>>2617087
>man evolves his thinking and strategy in light of new experiences and consequences of his past strategy
<this is bad somehow hehe

>>2617094
Stalin was right(wing)


>>2617099
He was an elightened centrist



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got mad having to constantly hear from stirnites so i made this to cope. how the fuck does an ideology like this even continue to exist?

literally every time someone even says something pro-com, there's always a fucking stirnite in the corner of the room chuckling to themselves, waiting for their mom to call them home for chicken nuggies and appy juice
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Stay spooked lmao.

But for real, are there still stirnites around?

>>2562552
Fuck off to Siberia.

>>2611495
This is like Maoism but with multiple steps

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>>2563065
His grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162563267/max-stirner

And John Henry McKays book on him "Max Stirner, his Life and Work"

https://files.libcom.org/files/Mackay%20-%20Max%20Stirner%20-%20His%20Life%20and%20His%20Work.pdf

Combined with documents mentioning him and linking Max Stirner with Johann Caspar Schmidt

http://max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/max_stirner.html

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>>2616892
History repeats



 

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>>2615262
p much

>>2615266
Alright, I will do it then


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>>2614484
Is this from Made in Abyss?



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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.

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>>2576897
Didn't Lenin literally say that?

This thread is still alive? …..



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Redpill me on Radio Free Glowrope.

Please provide sources. I will buy everything you say but have in turn libby friends to convince.

I'm personally more interested in what they're up to right now than their historical background. The short and sweet of the latter is by the way nicely provided by wikipedia, which however doesn't say much about the current state of things (which may be for the better).

<Radio Free Europe was created and grew in its early years through the efforts of the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE), an anti-communist CIA front organization that was formed by Allen Dulles in New York City in 1949.[17][18] RFE/RL received funds covertly from the CIA until 1972.[11][12]



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Why is it that the quote "The right looks for converts, the left looks for heretics", applies so well? Will the left cease to grow in the West for another century? Will there be a left wing revolution in this decade?
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>>2616244
>Eh, I think the mistake a lot of communists make is assuming class consciousness already exists or is like the default, and if that's the case then why isn't the socialism happening? So they think, well, it must be because THEY are trying to stop it because "they," like you, also anticipate the proletariat awakening (obvious!) and overthrowing them (inevitable / two weeks / etc.).
whether a lot, or some, or even most communists believe that class consciousness is obvious i cannot speak for, but personally i have no illusion that class consciousness is at all something obvious. in the recent Reitter translation of Capital (that i have been enjoying immensely), the foreward states that one of capitalism's peculiarities is its opaqueness on its concrete presentation, i.e. the way you can analyze a factory or a corporation and be unaware of capitalism's intricacies and working components, contrasted with its clarity only through abstract theoretical analysis. you must study capitalism from a distance to understand how it really works because obscuring and camouflaging the appearance of things is core to how capital operates. lenin was correct in his conclusion that the proletariat must become organized and led to be able to see the chains on their wrists, otherwise they live believing that they are free, that those chains simply do not exist or that they wear them through their own free will, or that this is god's will, or nature's will, etc. this is the duty of the vanguard.


>But the most sobering possibility is that they have no reason to think that. The working class actually does not by default think of itself as a class, and your ideas are simply not shared by the vast majority of people in most developed capitalist countries in the first place.

i agree
No one actually needs to "divide the working class" either if the existing structure that organizes society already does that.
here i disagree. although an ignorant populace is ideal, there still has to be a plan b, plan c, etc. and an eventual panic button. it doesn't hurt to guarantee success for the ruling class, and it doesn't cost them much either.

It's a kind of post-hoc way of thinking, like [things happened this way] so therefore [it must have been intended this way]. It's in the way youPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Idk why so many like OP whines about this in the Left, when the wilful acceptance and cheap grace of the Right has attracted a lot of grifters and morons on their side. So much so that they cannot even carry out their political projects properly at all.

For whatever the problems of the Left, over-fixating on its flaws misses the real reason of its status in the West, which is the class cuckery of its proletariat. You people talk like an abused spouse, thinking that if only they will do things properly, their abuser would love them for who they are.

>>2615866
Terminally online drivel.

I'll give you the real reason: because in recent decades left wing ideologies have become high-status and right wing ideologies are low-status.
>but rightists tend to be rich and powerful!!
This is true, but they're also low-status. Look at Elon Musk, he's a complete fucking loser despite having more money than god and more real power than every leftist outside China. The reason he's welcomed by the right is because the right cannot be choosy. The left can be: if you are a loser, if you are deeply uncool, nobody really wants you to be on the left.
There is, after all, a reason that cool celebrities endorse the Democrats (or refuse to endorse anyone because the Democrats are too right-wing, very cool move) while Republicans get daytime TV stars, used car dealers, and antivax schizos.

The one exception is that if you're uncool in ways that cool people can play off, then you're welcome. This is because your uncoolness won't wipe off on cool people, but it will wipe off on uncool people. A cool left-wing communist suffers no reputational harm when he says he'd rather talk to a furry diaper fetishist than a /pol/tard, while a /pol/ user simply becomes more pathetic when you find out he's got a furry diaper fetish. A cool left-wing person only becomes cooler when they pretend to have read Settlers, while most right-wingers capable of stringing two sentences together either have to pretend to be much cleverer than they are (Land, Moldbug, etc) or quickly drift over to becoming Neoliberals (Richard Hanania, etc.)
The dynamic here is much the same as with fashion: very wealthy people can dress like shit if they want to because you aren't going to confuse them for poor people, middle income people have to be more careful with their appearance because they could be seen below their station, and poor people don't much choice.

>>2616514
Eh, a lot of the right are grifters.



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