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 No.82495[Reply]

im kind of at a loss for words with this one guys. are they really like this?(user was sent to a camp for free vocational training for this post)
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 No.82724

>>82514
deluded
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 No.82725

>>82555
Lmao the Chinese are so racist for pointing out that USA bureaucrats are too racists to even travel to certain areas of their own cities
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 No.82760

>>82675
probably because if you start recognizing minor flaws with the modern PRC it opens up the floodgates and youre eventually gonna have to recognize that it simply liberalized after Mao
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 No.84103

I don't even know what's going on in this photo and I don't fucking care lol
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 No.84105

>>82560
Che later changed his opinion on the matter after he became a revolutionary.


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 No.82482[Reply]

It seems as if the right has quite a lot more vigor than I thought it did, though /pol/ is the most active board on 4chan still, it is also the most boring. How come they're still around?
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 No.82743

>>82492
Imagboard users in general hate Reddit.
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 No.82784

>>82496
>banning the donald on reddit was a terrible move
What are you even talking about, banning le_donald was a brilliant move because it gave them "fair and balanced" cover to ban r/CTH, one of the few subs that wasn't a boomer convent

>>82573
>reciprocity
>a right-wing value
>t.underage liberal with no life experience
You're a fucking idiot for letting rich people tell you how to feel.
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 No.82798

>>82733
hes probably an underage chud who is pissed his social studies teacher wont let him say faggot and nigger in the school district his suburban parents sent him to
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 No.83399

>>82502
I'm not sure whether it was cross-pollination from stormfront, incel forums etc or 4chan had a collective awakening but from gamergate onwards 4chan has definitely become much more reactionary.

Hell it wasn't that long ago that blatant incel posts would often be told ">>>r9k" but now incel ideology has permeated a lot of the site
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 No.84098

>>82544
Because they think we like him for some reason and that making fun of him offends us. It's the equivalent of some retarded radlib thinking that /pol/yps watch Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder.


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 No.83040[Reply]

Half of the working class is permissive on social issues and the other half is conservative/traditionalist. Class unity requires both halves to work together, but it's unlikely that liberals can tolerate religious conservatives and vice versa. Lenin had both the industrial workers and the peasants, how can the modern left unite the working class when they are so divided by cultural issues?

Do you see woke radlibs tolerating anti LGBT chuds who are nevertheless for a minimum wage? What about rural rednecks who want more gibs but are anti abortion and casually racist (and also they're spooked by the word socialism because socialism=communism=atheism which of course basically = SATAN)?
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 No.83958

>>83956
To summarize. Make culture revolutionary by integrating it with class analysis and class struggle.
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 No.83980

>>83942
>There are plenty of gay couples that have kids. What are you going to do? Take their kids away?
You have to be trolling really hard to misread my comment in such a fashion as to endorse anything like that, nu-/pol/. Have you been told to kill yourself today? If not, please do.
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 No.84040

>>83910
I would say the attention it gets regardless of how much people care about it is disproportionate because the media manufactures it.
>>83918
Getting hung up on ethnicities is not about material conditions though. It tangles it up in social values.
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 No.84056

>>84040
But the concept itself is manufactured, the term as I said was coined by Republicans in order to have a political platform, cause the dems went full neolib so the only reason to support the republicans is if you either hate minorities or be so ancap that neo liberalism looks like the ussr
Thus they changed their rhetoric, it's not about nigger and lazy poor or trickle downs, it's about muh American values and the fact that there is a debate to be made about calling people by the preferred pronouns, do you think retards like Shapiro don't know their arguments are bad? They just paint it as a war or a debate to look important, more important than the objective truth that the average non brainwashed republican is just anti social
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 No.84093

>>84040
>Getting hung up on ethnicities is not about material conditions though.
What about living conditions brought on by sociohistorical factors such as colonialism and imperialism is NOT related to material conditions?


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 No.83005[Reply]

Turkish army humiliated by PKK in Iraqi Kurdistan as it is forced to retreat with ‘the blood of its own people on its hands’
TURKEY’s military operation against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in Iraqi Kurdistan has ended in humiliation, with forces retreating on Sunday after air strikes killed 13 Turkish soldiers. The HPG, the military wing of the PKK, said that Operation Claw Eagle 2 had failed and that Turkey, which has Nato’s second-largest army, had been forced to leave with the blood of its own people on its hands.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/turkish-army-humiliated-pkk-iraqi-kurdistan-it-forced-retreat-blood-its-own-people-its

Policeman Killed By IED Planted By CPI Maoist Cadres In Lohardaga District
A policeman who was wounded by an IED planted by CPI (Maoist) cadres in Lohardaga district succumbed to his injuries at a Ranchi hospital a few hours later on Tuesday. According to police, the incident took place at around 9:45 am when a search operation was conducted by a joint team of the CRPF and state police.
https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/policeman-killed-by-ied-planted-by-cpi-maoist-cadres-in-lohardaga-district/

Bengal Polls: Left-Congress Clinch Seat-Sharing Deal, Leave Room for New Entrants
It is learnt that the Left-Congress alliance has also kept some seats for parties, such as the Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) and Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), who have expressed willingness to fight both Trinamool Congress (TMC) and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
https://www.newsclick.in/Bengal-Polls-Left-Congress-Clinch-Seat-Sharing-Deal-Leave-Room-for-New-Entrants

Bolsonaro Relaxes Gun Laws Amid Fears of Increased Violence
The new regulations announced on February 13 also expand the ammunition capacity that owners can acquire from 1 000 units per year up to 5 000 across a range of categoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.83478

>>83464
Yes, they do what the US does, invade regions that have "enemy insurgents". Who's going to say no to the second biggest army in NATO.
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 No.83656

>>83478
Neo-Ottoman Empire when?
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 No.84066

BASED APU'S ARMY
>>83464
yup that's just typical t*rks they are an abomination
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 No.84082

>>83457
What's with the added fake film grain?
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 No.84087

>>84082
The fake defects/scratches/ghost images? I guess some people expect to see that sort of thing in a music video.


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 No.83975[Reply]

Spanish police fire rubber bullets after Barcelona protest demanding rapper’s release descends into riots (VIDEOS)
Hasel, whose real name is Pablo Rivadulla Duro, was arrested earlier on Tuesday after barricading himself inside the University of Lleida in Catalonia. He is to serve a nine-month sentence handed down in 2018 over song lyrics and tweets regarding disgraced former monarch Juan Carlos I, and a social media post praising a Spanish Maoist terrorist group.
https://on.rt.com/b1ym

Nepal PM Oli says ruling party leaders tried to form a parallel government
Defending his move to dissolve the House of Representatives, Nepal Prime Minister K P Sharma Oli has blamed some leaders of the ruling Nepal Communist Party (NCP) for attempting to form a "parallel government".
https://www.eastmojo.com/world/2021/02/17/nepal-pm-oli-says-ruling-party-leaders-tried-to-form-a-parallel-government
https://archive.is/CwhlU

Communist MP wants top Russian TV host prosecuted for calling Hitler ‘a very brave man’ in debate about comparisons with Navalny
Following Solovyov’s statement, Communist party MP Valery Rashkin asked the authorities to investigate whether the TV host had broken the law. Russia has stringent restrictions against what it calls the ‘rehabilitation of Nazism’.
https://on.rt.com/b1zr

German solider to stand trial over race war plot
AGERMAN soldier who planned to inflame a race war by attacking politicians and human rights campaigners while posing as a Syrian refugee will face trial in May, a Frankfurt court ruled on Tuesday. The 32-year-old has been accused of the “preparation of a serious act of violence that endangers the state,” along with the illegal possession of weapons and explosives.
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 No.84029

TYBNA
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 No.84034

'I will not make that happen': Biden declines Democrats' call to cancel $50K in student debt
"I will not make that happen," Biden said at a CNN town hall in Milwaukee, his first event outside Washington since he took office, in response to an audience member who called on him to commit to cancel at least $50,000 in debt.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/i-will-not-make-happen-biden-declines-democrats-call-cancel-n1258069

US workers go on strike in 15 cities to demand $15-an-hour minimum wage
The workers at McDonald’s, Burger King and Wendy’s, joined by home care and nursing home workers, took action as the Biden administration is attempting to push through an increase in the federal minimum wage from $7.25, in what would be the first increase in since 2009.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/16/minimum-wage-strikes-us-cities-15-dollar

Democrats' very pricey, very small health care coverage expansion
The Congressional Budget Office doesn't expect much from House Democrats' plan to temporarily expand health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act. According to CBO's estimates, Democrats' proposals would cover fewer than 2 million uninsured Americans — at a cumulative cost of over $50 billion.
https://www.axios.com/house-democrats-affordable-care-act-insurance-4e9ff820-6ba0-46ec-a4d4-5162bea3c6fd.html

Oakland Chinatown turns to private, armed security in wake of assaults, robberies
As Oakland Chinatown reels from a recent string of assaults and robberies — some of them captured in stark, instantly viral video footage — merchants are testing a controversial solution: armed security guards.
Business owners raised more than $80,000 through a GoFundMe campaign to fund the guards from Goliath Protection Group, meant to supplement a police force strained by budget cuts.
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 No.84050

<Nevada Democrats move to end presidential caucuses

>Proglib union organizers figure out how to win in caucuses

>Harry Reid: The proles know! Shut it down!
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 No.84059

Libya's surprise election is bad news for meddling powers
The unexpected winners of this contest have all taken a back seat in the tumultuous events that brought them to temporary power. The new prime minister, Abdul Hamid Dbeibah, portrays himself as a businessman and technocrat. He comes from a wealthy family in Misrata, raised in the construction industry of the Gaddafi era.His cousin Ali Dbeibah was a confidant of the Libyan dictator and head of the Organisation for Development of Administrative Centres. Once the revolution started, Adbul Hamid was one of the main bankrollers of revolutionary forces. In 2017, he was part of a Misratan delegation that visited Moscow and Grozny. As every camp in Libya is divided, his candidacy was a compromise between two other Misratan candidates, Bashagha and Ahmed Amaitiq. The winning list is headed by Mohamed al-Manfi, who is from Tobruk. He opposed the Battle of Benghazi and the invasion of Tripoli, and has always been a staunch critic of Haftar. The GNA appointed him ambassador in Greece before he was expelled by Athens after supporting the maritime agreement between Turkey and Libya. His two deputies have had little to do with politics. One of them, Musa al-Koni, is the brother of internationally acclaimed novelist Ibrahim al-Koni. The Konis are popular in the south. Why them and not the battle-scarred frontrunners? Saleh, it appears, could not rewrite his own history. Libyan delegates were attracted to the least controversial of the two lists that made it to the runoff vote, and that was compounded by the enemies Saleh had made in Tobruk. His former allies in the east were also upset by his plan to move the capital, where it would be in Haftar’s hands. The election on Friday was hailed with a sigh of relief by the UN, and the outgoing envoy who fixed it up, Stephanie Williams, called it a historic moment.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/libya-election-surprise-meddling-powers-bad-news

The Counterinsurgency Of The Fourth Transformation
English translation of a recent article from Uruguayan journalist, Raúl Zibechi, about contemporary strategies of counterinsurgency being used in Mexico and throughout the world Counterinsurgency strategies are flexible. They adapt to time and place, and to each sectorPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.84067

>>84050
>Proglib union organizers figure out how to win in caucuses
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The Iowa caucus last year was the most transparently corrupt contest in decades. At this point it's just more priming for the dictatorship to cut out even any pretense of a popular government


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 No.81649[Reply]

i have a lot of friends involved IWW and SRA and such who don't even read theory but have done great things. Do you need to ready theory to be a good leftist? Or do you need to be in orgs to be a good leftist? This is all arbitrary but i'd love to hear your thoughts
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 No.83007

(i trust from context it's obvious that the fucking CPC is not relevant.)
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 No.83010

>>83004
you're totally clueless to the political implications of anything then. thanks for confirming that.
>>83006
>>83007
I would argue that that's because the goals of many of these parties themselves are ill-placed, such as focusing on utopian projects and unionism. tell me why Wall Street Bets seems to be more politically disruptive than weeks of record-breaking riots. the left's ideas of "agitate, educate, organize" are woefully outdated. I know this will trigger a lot of people to say but it's a fact. trying to be disruptive the way they did it 100 years ago isn't going to work anymore.
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 No.83016

>>83010
>tell me why Wall Street Bets seems to be more politically disruptive than weeks of record-breaking riots
because you're over-focusing on Wall Street Bets / it's fresher in your memory.
but even were that not the case, you've jumped the gun: parties lack the capability to start riots anyway, just as they lack the capability to manipulate share prices, or indeed to carry through most other plans. a party capable of directing people to riot - even if the riots achieved little - would be the most powerful left-wing party in living memory.
the problem with framing things as outdated (and many strategies are outdated - by god, they print newspapers!) is that it misses a more objective test: are they effective?
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 No.83332

>>82996
>Frankly, the SocialistRA are the ONLY praxis in the imperial core worth doing rn.
lol
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 No.83840

>>82977
That is true, but they are of lesser importance since anarchists tend to avoid totalism, do not slavishly adhere to the thought processes of those distinguished persons Praise Graeber and therefore have no particular need to develop a comprehensive, flawless, prescriptive Theory of Everything. In fact, we see it as a fool's errand because such theories serve no other function than evidence of time wasted and provide corrupt nomenklatura something to do other than be shot. That's a real problem on the left.

>>83016
>it misses a more objective test: are they effective?
To me, outdated implies that they were effective in the past, or they wouldn't have become a thing, but aren't anymore, or they'd still be current.


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 No.19690[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Learned about bunkerchan from his youtube livestreams. His ideology is probably the closest of any MLs to my own. I have one of his books and hope to get others. Also thoughts on his Center for political innovation?
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 No.83395

>>83280
And Engels was 100% independent lolololol
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 No.83409

>>83368
>>83373
>>83380
>>83382
People like this only fearmonger about Russian and Chinese "imperialism" because they are afraid of losing their Western privileges. It's the same as people warning against communist revolution because it might lead to excess terror and death. It's because the terror implicates them in upholding the old world. Of course the new world after a revolution will have its own challenges and its own contradictions to overcome, but they don't want to confront how scary such a world would be.

Lenin called these people social chauvinists during WW1, and it's still true today.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/jul/26.htm

<The phrase-bandying Trotsky has completely lost his bearings on a simple issue. It seems to him that to desire Russia’s defeat means desiring the victory of Germany. (Bukvoyed and Semkovsky give more direct expression to the “thought”, or rather want of thought, which they share with Trotsky.) But Trotsky regards this as the “methodology of social-patriotism"! To help people that are unable to think for themselves, the Berne resolution (Sotsial Demokrat No. 40) made it clear, that in all imperialist countries the proletariat must now desire the defeat of its own government. Bukvoyed and Trotsky preferred to avoid this truth, while Semkovsky (an opportunist who is more useful to the working class than all the others, thanks to his naively frank reiteration of bourgeois wisdom) blurted out the following: “This is nonsense, because either Germany or Russia can win".


<What is the substitute proposed for the defeat slogan? It is that of “neither victory nor defeat” (Semkovsky in Izvestia No. 2; also the entire Organising Committee in No. 1). This, however, is nothing but a paraphrase of the “defence of the fatherland” slogan. It means shifting the issue to the level of a war between governments (who, according to the cont
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 No.83612

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>>19690
He hasn't been relevant since this guy destroyed him
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 No.83791

>>83362
Us hegemony is not to disappear, this "one will simply substitute the another" does not account for the fact that the Us is TOO FUCKING POWERFUL to not be a superpower, the difference is that they will not be the only superpower on the planet.
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 No.83792

>>83612
Imagine believing that.
If anything he has become more influential since then.


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 No.83324[Reply]

Every few months I make a post about the Age of… series written by Eric Hobsbawm which covers history from the French Revolution to the fall of the Soviet Union
Each time I get almost no responses
Has Leftypol finally given up on reading?
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 No.83345

Probably. Tell us about it
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 No.83432

>>83324
>a guardian photo
>absolutely no insight of why its intersting
why would I bother? sell it to me mate
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 No.83433

>>83432
He fought alongside the French communist partisans in the big one W W I I
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 No.83438

dont have the time
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 No.83491

>>83324
I read the first two and am halfway through the third right now. Yeah it's good, a good treatment of the general trends of history from a 'materialist' etc perspective, with some focus on left wing themes. Not really a lot to say about it.


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 No.82226[Reply]

IMO racism and racial oppression is more real than other types of idpol, at least in burgerland. Feminism has already mostly succeeded and LGBT people have rights, no one even dislikes gays anymore except evangelical rednecks etc. In most major metropolitan areas LGB people are accepted, the only even slightly controversial one is trans people.

OTOH oppression of minorities through economic deprivation and police brutality and over incarceration still hasn't made that much progress since the 80s/90s. Women's rights have made real progress but race stuff really hasn't or at least not that much.

You can't compare police murdering of blacks to some spoiled white upper middle class enby on a campus of Yale/Brown/Vassar moaning about pronouns.

Maybe this isn't the same case in Africa, Eastern Europe, LatAm to the same extent, but in burgerland it is.
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 No.83387

>>83376
You forgot to mention that they do so at proportionally lower rates than even regular white men
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 No.83397

>>82349
t.faggot
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 No.83398

>>83387
Do what?
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 No.83400

>>83398
Get murdered
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 No.83442

>>83385
>>83370
Old school tactic, white supremacists made a concerted effort to infiltrate police departments in the 70s and 80s, way before nu-white supremacist millennials/zoomers got the idea


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 No.82704[Reply]

>Schools Action Union did not arise from a single moment; rather, it was the culmination of a broad and varied range of protests at home and abroad. One of these, in March 1968, saw hundreds of pupils from the Myles Platting Secondary Modern school in Manchester stage a school strike in response to the excessive use of the tawse, a pronged leather strap. Soon after, students from the strike formed the Manchester Union of Secondary Students. This was joined shortly thereafter by the Swansea Union of Progressive Students, the Bristol Sixth Form Alliance, and the Cardiff Union of Secondary Schools.

>The most dramatic moment came on May 17, 1972, when ten thousand school children went on strike. Central London came to a standstill as police struggled to contain crowds marching through the streets with banners reading “No To The Cane.” Unwilling to let the children occupy Trafalgar Square as they had intended, the officers dispersed the children across London in large groups, arresting many of the organizers in the process.



>On May 17, 1972, ten thousand British kids walked out of school to protest corporal punishment — and force authorities to change the law.



So you are telling me that kids in the 70's could mobilize 10 000 students to fight corporal fucking punishment but the left today can't must3r a few thousand to fight for the future of our fucking species? What went wrong? Why did rebelliousness dissapear amongst people?
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 No.82705

>>82704
psh, stupid reformist kids. don't they know they should want the punishments to be harsher so that there will be an uprising to abolish the school system and then capitalism itself, don't they know that reforms to make life more bearable only prolong their misery?
also despite it being 1972 they've made no statement on their position on growing tensions in the middle east, which means i can only assume that they're z*onists, or allow z*onists within their ranks.
until these children agree to rally behind my positions and only my positions i will not work with or support them. what is the point in supporting a gang of reformist little shits with bad foreign policy takes?

hopefully this post goes some way towards illustrating one of the many factors that pushes people away from doing anything
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 No.83136

The key point here is:

>Schools Action Union did not arise from a single moment; rather, it was the culmination of a broad and varied range of protests at home and abroad.


There is NEVER one big swooping movement that solves everything, little by little, action are taken, lessons learned, alliances forged, ground one, new battlegrounds opened up therefore. The struggle is protracted and NEVER goes from A-B at any point.
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 No.83139

>>83136
>>83136
*ground won


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