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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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retarded thread by a retarded person

>>2583374
Is it a genocide though? Why do they let Palestinians live in Israel proper?

>>2583969
>Is it a genocide though?

>>2582414
>Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia.

Its pretty simple really, people care more about palestine because its closer to europe and as such more relevant to westerners than sudan or somalia.
Its like wondering why someone in the congo didn't give a shit about the troubles in northern ireland

>>2583293
>I've never understood why the western left places so much significance on Israel-Palestine.
The Palestine struggle used to be led by the PLO, socdem nationalists funded by the USSR. It's cold war legacy.



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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>>2576810
Yeah if there's one thing dictatorships fear it's the awesome power of local democracy

>>2576951
which is why they say it has to be armed.

>>2576810
>Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?
semi related with Kurdish groups in Iraq that have supported the Kurdish groups in Syria, financially, militarily, and politically. also, the plants in Iraq have processed in those refineries and plants in the past, which makes me wonder if the attack was to sabotage any Kurdish income.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit: One force will join the army, the other will ensure public order
Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, Deputy Group Chair of the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party), who was among the members of the Parliamentary Commission who met with Leader Apo in İmralı, stated that Syria was evaluated comprehensively by Leader Apo during the meeting, but this was not reflected in the minutes in Parliament, and that Leader Apo presented a formula for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

Speaking to Cansu Çamlıbel of T24, Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit said that Leader Apo warned that if democratization is not achieved in Syria, Ahmed al-Shara, the head of the transitional administration, could turn into a dictator.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, who reported that Leader Apo presented a formula for the SDF during the meeting, said, "He says the military force could be integrated into the army, and that the region could have its own security forces. In fact, while discussing this, he said, 'I think there are watchmen in Türkiye.' What he meant was, 'One power center will join the army, and another power will establish the local defense line and ensure security.'"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit stated that Önder Apo did not say to the YPG that he would unconditionally lay down all his weapons and disband himself like the PKK, and that this was not true.

'"IF DEMOCRATIZATION DOES NOT HAPPEN, SHARA WILL ALSO TURN INTO A DICTATOR"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, stating that Leader Apo made an assessment of the Assad family dynasty since the time of Hafez Assad in Syria, said the following:

"They became a family dynasty. And we see that Syria is the most wounded, most painful region in the region. Today, they say Sharaa has transformed. If he has truly transformed, then democratization is necessary," he said. "But if democratization doesn't happen, Sharaa will also turn into a dictator," he said. "We know what can happen in such a situation," he said.

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Soverign Nation Complex
Actually, I could have titled it "Supremacy Complex." This condition is also referred to in socialist literature as "chauvinism" and "social-chauvinism." Undoubtedly, Kurds living within the borders of the Republic of Turkey know very well what these concepts mean. They have learned this firsthand over the last 100 years.

Therefore, Kurds weren't surprised to hear CHP Chairman Özgür Özel, speaking with some arrogance from the podium of the party he was re-elected to, using the terms "Stockholm Syndrome" and "falling in love with your executioner." Nor were they surprised to hear his words, "Why is everything being tied to İmralı?" directed at Kurdish People's Leader Abdullah Öcalan, whom over 10 million Kurds had signed 15 years ago, declaring "My Political Will."

In fact, Özgür Özel's remarks made it much clearer why the CHP refused to include a member in the National Solidarity, Brotherhood, and Democracy Commission, established by the Turkish Grand National Assembly, which traveled to İmralı on November 24th to hold valuable discussions with Leader Abdullah Öcalan on the Peace and Democratic Society Process. Clearly, the CHP was rejecting the will of the Kurds as the chief negotiator. Furthermore, an "Apo complex" was lurking within the CHP leadership and its ranks. It also became clear why they frequently traveled to meet with Selahattin Demirtaş.

We certainly don't know who Özgür Özel meant by the term "executioner." However, the kinds of meetings he held with the AKP leadership under the guise of "normalization" as soon as he became party chairman are still fresh in our memories. Regarding working with the MHP, we advise him to look back to the periods when Bülent Ecevit and Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu were party leaders.

The CHP's "Arrogance of Grandeur" isn't actually very different from the chauvinist approaches of the AKP and MHP. All Kurds have learned this from decades of humiliation and contempt. It could be argued that no dominant nation in the world has ever exerted a level of racist-chauvinistic oppression on the Kurds, nor has any other national community. Books could be cited for this, but further explanation is unnecessary, lest it damage the positive atmosphere inherent in the Peace and Democratic Society Process we are currently experiencing.

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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2584022
Guess again gayboy

>>2584025
NTA but there no reason why I can't live in a townhouse with extended family including my many wives

>>2583977
To be fair, even a lot of disabled people are getting sick and tired of the "DON'T CURE THE DISABILITY, CURE SOCIETY" bullshit. Who under socialism would want to be disabled and lose out on enjoying life to the fullest in a system that works for everyone? It seems like a lot of disabled idpol is based on the idea that having a disability makes you "unique" and thus more marketable on social media. Plus, a socialist society would seek to cure debilitating conditions or use CRISPR to wipe out debilitating conditions entirely.

>>2583896
Haz and his ilk literally are a LaRouchite grifter cult. Hell, Haz said himself that he was inspired by Heidegger and Dugin instead of Marx. They are literally fascists once again co-opting left-wing slogans and rhetoric to try to appear left -wing when they really are not.

>>2584413
Haz is a very avowed reader of Marx, you're just lying. You can syncretize Heidegger with Marx, this is not at all unique to Haz.



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>>2583449
>Teachers, Nurses, Flight Attendents, cashiers, stockers, firefighters, waiters, warehouse workers, electricians, plumbers, daycare worekrs, truck drivers aren't LE REAL WORKERS because they're PROVIDING LE SERVICE instead of PRODUCING LE COMMODITY on LE ASSEMBLY LINE
please… stop this nonsense…

>>2583448
the article is hysteria per usual. It's called a coworking space and every country has them. in the usa a daypass is like 30$ so the Chinese are getting a pretty sweet deal here. you pretty much do whatever, for the homeless its meant to be used as a resource to network and find jobs online

>>2582193
People have already started parodying those retarded "Japan is living in 2050" videos which show someone opening a plastic cup with some kind of bright-colored jelly desert inside

bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeKu6VpasW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_9BKd8HtdY

If you all know hindi, these two videos are good imho.

one indian journalist went to china (in its poorest province) to see their poverty elevation program, and found out how the system works,

quick tldr
>the system takes a bottom up approach to create plans. Ground Cadre has a say in policy making
> To eliminate corruption five layers of inspections are at work, where the political cadre and educational figures can go for inspection anytime
>government provides infrastructure to rural poor citizens so that they can participate in the economy, even providing wifi or digital equipments like mic, to help them share their products on the internet
>the party cadre close to 45000 works as volunteer in these rural provinces.

Total death to bordigaists, long live PRC



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Which is the real and correct way of material analysis?
General Relativity?
Quantum Mechanics?
Quantum Gravity?
M Theory?
???

No teleology answers.
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>>2584334
So you're an underage fag who can't read, got it.

QM

>>2584333
>>2584334
Did you just reply to yourself immediately after as though you were expecting a within-the-hour response on a non-4chan, non-livechan imageboard?

>>2584283
Read Althusser's ''Philosophy and the
Spontaneous Philosophy
of the Scientists''
https://archive.org/details/philosophysponta0000alth
http://www.marx2mao.com/Other/PSPS90NB.html

>>2584337
Everyone is a trccn to you, your own mother is hermaphrodite while you are the only manly boy in existence. Burp yourself to death trailer trash.



 

Opinion of Nick Land(CCRU time)/Deleuze?Are they too schizo? Also opinion on Dugin/Nick land(Atlantism vs Eurasianism). I think they are greatest philosophers and they were not clear to everyone.
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>>2583825
There is difference between dialectic materialism and dialectics

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>another philosophy thread
Don't make me tap the sign again: philosophy is religion rendered into thought and hence to be condemned.

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>>2582299
>>2583210
>>2583797
Lmfao peak pseud shit, to Marx dialectics is just a mode of presentation for his ideas. People who unironically think that a knowledge of "dialectics" or whatever helps you master the world of subjects are just religious fanatics under a different name.


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>>2584322
Here are (1) Hegel, (2 & 3) Marx on Hegel, and (4) Marx on his own "method".

Marx is very clear here: he does not have a method. A scientific investigation has to "appropriate the material in detail, analyse all forms of development and trace out their inner connections" rather than starting out with a ready-made schema and distorting the material to fit it like pretty much all of philosophy does.

>>2584360
Your reading comprehension fucking sucks, lol.

>>2584399
and you are an idiot. marx was a philosopher



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>>2578956
close enough, leftmost is Kaysone Phomvihane - Laotian communist [Lao People's Revolutionary Party & Pathet Lao] leader and first president of Lao People's Democratic Republic

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hanging out with my friends♡

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>Despite the shifting influences of neighbors Thailand and Vietnam on Cambodia after the demise of Angkor, Theravada Buddhism subsisted with no major shocks or rifts to the established religious order for several hundred years (Harris 2005). Theravada Buddhism endured in spite of incursions by Islam, the French, the Japanese, and the Americans to name a few. The religion’s only genuine struggle for the continuation of its existence occurred during three years, eight months, and twenty days between April 1975 and January 1979. For the duration of that timeframe, the Communist Party of Kampuchea (CPK), or as Prince Sihanouk infamously coined them, the “Khmer Rouge”, organized one of the most brutal assaults on any religion in modern history.
>Democratic Kampuchea’s minister of Foreign Affairs Ieng Sary, soon after the Khmer Rouge victory, announced to the world that the Communist Party of Kampuchea’s government “granted freedom to all religious groups, a freedom which was clearly written into the new constitution: ‘Every citizen of Kampuchea has the right to hold any belief in religion and has as well the right to have neither belief nor religion. Any reactionary religion interfering with Democratic Kampuchea and her people is strictly prohibited’ (Constitution of Democratic Kampuchea, chapter XV, article 20). However, as he also asserted that the monasteries were opened throughout the country at that time (Newsweek September 4, 1975)”, the Communist Party of Kampuchea actually aimed to exterminate all religious beliefs (Yang Sam 1987: 67).

>The eradication of Buddhism under the Khmer Rouge destroyed more than just the religion sanctioned and supported by the previous regime; it destroyed something that was integral to the traditional Khmer way of life. Although not completely immune to the secularizing tendencies of modernization, Cambodians were a highly religious people (Hawk 1990: 131). “Like Roman Catholicism in Poland, Theravada Buddhism in Cambodia embodied and represented Cambodia’s tradition, culture, and identity. For centuries it was the main source of learning and education” (Ibid: 131). According to missionary Francois Ponchaud who lived in Cambodia from 1965 until he was forced to flee Phnom Penh ten years later: “until April 1975 the word for ‘race’ and ‘religion’ in Cambodia were the same, and in everyday language ‘Khmer’ implied ‘Buddhis
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I’m honestly curious to know what exactly makes the PMC (university professors, doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, artists, those types of people) adhere to the belief system they do. Namely, the psychology behind what’s often termed as “petit-bourgeois radicalism.”

I recently read through two of Caleb Maupin’s books (The American Years of Lead and the one on Trotsky and the Neocons). Maupin asserts that intellectual elites (PMC) are heavily into salon culture and edgy things that have aristocratic connotations. For instance, intellectual elites (PMC) are the ones who hold an overly-romantic view of revolution and romanticize terrorism and political violence. They’re the ones that conjure up images of a big apocalyptic revolution similar to the Christian rapture whereby every little aspect of the existing society is destroyed. He also heavily emphasized that the PMC hates the genuine working/class, because they see them as a threat to their power, so they deliberately manipulate working-class movements in order to offset and eventually dissolve them. Plus, they love sexual promiscuity and use “leftism” in order to promote it.

Last night, I watched a video on Sublation Media between Doug Alain and Chris Cutrone. Cutrone made the point that the PMC romanticize terrorism, mass destruction involving killing and raping, and the “noble death” because the PMC are “gangsters.” Not gangsters the way the ultra-rich capitalists are, but gangsters nonetheless.

My understanding is, intellectual elites love these things like violence and terror for the exact same reason they love modern “art” like Jackson Pollock and jazz and rap “music”: it’s all deeply irrational. They reject historical progress, favour the lumpen and those on the margins of society over the genuine proletariat, and promote destruction because they hate rationality. All of the things they promote as “leftism” are actually deeply aristocratic values: it’s the aristocracy that loves violence, sexual indulgence and a rejection of logic and linear time. I see it like this: intellectual elites, being Nietzscheans at heart, hate rationality and linear progress because they see those things as boxes that limit their ability to indulge, but also the fact that they already have their privileged positions and don’t need a proletarian revolution to have their basic needs met. In fact, a proletarian revolution would mean they lose their privileges and end up working in the fields.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2584099
What do you mean? What’s the point of killing doctors when doctors are crucial to a healthy society?

>>2584100
ah i thought you were suggesting that we do execute some of the…. uh, particular reactionary professions…..

>>2583942
>Cutrone made the point that the PMC romanticize terrorism, mass destruction involving killing and raping, and the “noble death” because the PMC are “gangsters.”
Cutrone is the epitome of a pseud. You're better off not listening to a word he says.

The "PMC" doesn't exist, idiot.

>>2583942
>petit-bourgeois radicalism
These professions arent usually petit-bourgeoisie as they dont own means of production.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2573816
АНАЛитическая пидоросня

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Берем?

>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя



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This is a thread for you (yes you!) to share and celebrate the helpful actions you've done to advance the worker movement.

___
Remember not to violate you or your organization's operational security model - that's latin for "no fedposting or dox"
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>>2584038
I have killed a gorillion bolice officers ::DDD

I post on leftypol and try not to pee myself in public


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>>2584151
Your food, professor.

i never became a cop or a troop, and i am a huge leech on the system by being a lazy piece of shit. if the whole country followed this praxis, the american empire would be finished.



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