>>2551301 (me)
>Marx says the result is quantitatively the same as what a certain type of simple calculation results in. He is NOT saying that this simple calculation resembles the actual process.To elaborate on that, it's a bit like having to stay within a weight limit for transporting items and facing the question whether one is below that without data in hand about the individual weights, but only with data about the average item weight and the number of items. From that one can trivially compute the total weight of the pile. But it would be asinine to assume that the things themselves actually get uniform in weight.
>>2551309>You already conceded that value is transferredI did not "concede" that, at no point did I assume otherwise.
>you have yet to tell us what you think in your interpretation the source of this value isThis shouldn't be necessary in a thread on Marxist economics: labor power. (There are complications in that you can't directly use time, because people work at different speed, and there is labor power at different skill levels, and there is overproduction and mismanagement.) I'm not making a new definition of value. I'm telling you that at some point the value has to be embodied in something to be transferred.
>you just repeatedly ask the same inane questionWell at least now you don't claim anymore I'm constantly changing the topic, so finally you are making a tiny bit of progress.
Third-worldists say first-worlders live the nice life on the back of third-world workers. You live the nice life (any life really) by consuming use-values. Hence to make a compelling case for the third-worldist claim being true, value transfer can at best only play one part in a bigger argument about use-values constructed wholly or in crucial parts in the third world ending up being consumed in the first world. The value transfer described volume III from industries with low organic composition of capital to industries with high organic composition of capital all by itself does not work as proof or almost-proof for the third-worldist claim. Marx did not construct that to argue for giga-profi
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