/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2578464
>Yet another breadtuber has made a video trying to equate being anti-Israeli with being a literal actual nazi.
Material explanation for why these are all either trans and/or women

>>2578832
They're not. You're just a misogynist.

>>2578836
Throw more buzzwords in there while you're at. Maybe I'm also a zionist and an amerikkkan

>>2578836
I've yet to see one who's not

>>2578832
Nazis push them away for being woman or trans so they end up running into vicinity of lefty communities. But other than trans rights and feminism they have no real principles. And since Nazis hate Israel they then use their herdthink to conclude maybe Israel is not bad.
And notice her main concern in the video is Nazis using Palestine to brainwash leftists into nazism? That's because they are more afraid of western Nazis taking away their lefty support than by current middle eastern genocide.

>>2578485
he lookin old.

>>2578672
Engels and Marx were right about 1848 and you are just a butthurt nationalist who cant face his country's reactionary history.

>>2578763
>>2578764
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>>2577969
>>2577998
>>2577999
Rosa stare

>>2578802
建国同志 must remain in power, he's far too useful to us

>>2577619
This is why Christianity needs to go

>>2578650
tbh i didn't see what you were replyng to. i was just copy pasting the same reply i posted to someone who also used that image in a thread about deng and revisionism, sorry! >>2573064 but maybe that was you as well and i didn't understand what it meant

>>2578289
Shai Hulud

>>2578623
Yeah on the other hand the KMT has handed out a lot of benefits to rural/indigenous areas and is considered the government which replaced the colonial japanese and developed the country.

>>2577583
Robespierre was based

>>2577119
Did le international left save the USSR?

>>2530240
Aka why you have to get to socialism first, no? The entire reason I sell ML and AI work is because ML and AI are now the means of production to seize. Before it, at porky command, kills us all.

>>2530021
Next mode of production will have planned economy done by AI but property rights (and thus social classes) will still exist.

>>2530165
AYN RAND communism aka dangist

>>2530043
fucking retard that's not how it works kill yourself

Because they like it, simple as.

>>2577584
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trick

All of us in modern society are hemmed in by a dense network of rules and regulations. We are at the mercy of large organizations such as corporations, governments, labor unions, universities, churches, and political parties, and consequently we are powerless. As a result of the servitude, the powerlessness, and the other indignities that the System inflicts on us, there is widespread frustration, which leads to an impulse to rebel. And this is where the System plays its neatest trick: Through a brilliant sleight of hand, it turns rebellion to its own advantage.

Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless. They know that they want to rebel, but they don't know what they want to rebel against. Luckily, the System is able to fill their need by providing them with a list of standard and stereotyped grievances in the name of which to rebel: racism, homophobia, women's issues, poverty, sweatshops…the whole laundry-bag of "activist" issues.

Huge numbers of would-be rebels take the bait. In fighting racism, sexism, etc., etc., they are only doing the System's work for it. In spite of this, they imagine that they are rebelling against the System. How is this possible?

First, 50 years ago the System was not yet committed to equality for black people, women and homosexuals, so that action in favor of these causes really was a form of rebellion. Consequently these causes came to be conventionally regarded as rebel causes. They have retained that status today simply as a matter of tradition; that is, because each rebel generation imitates the preceding generations.

Second, there are still significant numbers of people, as I pointed out earlier, who resist the social changes that the System requires, and some of these people even are authority figures such as cops, judges, or politicians. These resisters provide a target for the would-be rebels, someone for them to rebel against. Commentators like Rush Limbaugh help the process by ranting against the activists: Seeing that they have made someone angry fosters the activists' illusion that they are rebPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

problem with parties in the US is they're basically marketing agencies: they create a set of policies by committee you have to generally follow as a politician for them, and they get ads for you. So you get nonsense policies when you try to do anything communist because marketing people sand it down beyond recognition because they think voters won't want it if it isn't sanded down.

>>2577587
Olaf Palme was the last good socdem

>>2577639
American industry must remain offshored or American militant imperialism will become an even greater existential threat

>>2578185
so, is this you explaining the difference between value ratios and exchange value ratios, then? or have you given up on that?

>>2578185
>>2578236
read this carefully:
<the common substance that manifests itself in the exchange value of commodities, whenever they are exchanged, is their value. The progress of our investigation will show that exchange value is the only form in which the value of commodities can manifest itself or be expressed […] When, at the beginning of this chapter, we said, in common parlance, that a commodity is both a use value and an exchange value, we were, accurately speaking, wrong. A commodity is a use value or object of utility, and a value. It manifests itself as this two-fold thing, that it is, as soon as its value assumes an independent form – viz., the form of exchange value. It never assumes this form when isolated, but only when placed in a value or exchange relation with another commodity of a different kind. When once we know this, such a mode of expression does no harm; it simply serves as an abbreviation.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
so exchange-value is the only mode of expression for the value of commodities. value cannot be expressed outside of this quantitative relationship to marx, which may be represented as a ratio between commodities:
<the ratio of the value of silver to that of gold…
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch03.htm
again, this is all entirely uncontroversial to most.

>>2578085
>How many times does Smith Anon have to read this?
He doesn't read he only lies.

>>2578738
lies about what? 🤔

>>2578085
>>2578738
here are some more resources to help your confusion:
<The prices which obtain as the average of the various rates of profit in the different spheres of production added to the cost-prices of the different spheres of production, constitute the prices of production […] And in the same way the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society — the totality of all branches of production — is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
so, the average price is still reflective of the value given in production, the same as in pre-capitalist relations, and in fact, the total average is equal to the total value. so as marx says, total value = total price, which if you measure as exchange-value, comes to the same conclusion: [Ax = By]. hope this helps. 🙂

>>2576234
>is there more uniformity of politics? Or is it still common to see people spread out across progressive and reactionary positions?

More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.

>>2576234
most social minorities are "left" wing relatively speaking because they know they will be on the wrong end of the gun when it boils down to it, but there are exceptions like black men who turn right wing for anti feminist reasons or minorities who are religiously anti LGBT, or certain minorities who (kinda falsely) think they are assimilated into whiteness like high caste indians who think they can bond with upper middle class anglo christians based on being in the same socio economic circles (usually professional IT/medicine jobs which gives them access to high end suburbs) and think they can bond on shared anti islam/muslim sentiments (EX: the Saajar Entjeti / Kash Patel stereotype of the right winged Indian-american).

>>2578490
>More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.
Go on…

>>2578499
yo i aint even clicking that why do you save this crap?

>>2578512
That videos not that bad. It's probably racist or misogynist but she's pretty and has one of my favorite body types so therefore it's good

>>2578526
pack it up goonerblud

>>2578779
Yes, writing a book which is sold as a commodity generates profit for the publisher.

>>2578768
>BTW… that's why even "day trading" is inaccessible to the proletariat: they are either broke or in debt.
Me, and my parents, are all proletarians and have each earned enough money to invest in mutual funds. There are some nice benefits to socdem life.

>>2578772
>If only Marx had the balls to actually work a proletarian job, maybe his life wouldn't be so fraught and precarious.

but the life of the proletariat IS fraught and precarious, especially in the time/place Marx was writing about them:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch10.htm

<Dr. Greenhow states that the average duration of life in the pottery districts of Stoke-on-Trent, and Wolstanton is extraordinarily short. Although in the district of Stoke, only 36.6% and in Wolstanton only 30.4% of the adult male population above 20 are employed in the potteries, among the men of that age in the first district more than half, in the second, nearly 2/5 of the whole deaths are the result of pulmonary diseases among the potters. Dr. Boothroyd, a medical practitioner at Hanley, says:

<“Each successive generation of potters is more dwarfed and less robust than the preceding one.”

<In like manner another doctor, Mr. M’Bean:

<“Since he began to practice among the potters 25 years ago, he had observed a marked degeneration especially shown in diminution of stature and breadth.”

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>>2578790
Well today the most immiserated proletariat are the people mining the minerals which end up in your devices. And that's why Lenin wrote extensively about the labor aristocracy in imperial core countries and the need for anti-imperialist solidarity with oppressed nations:

<Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.

<This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”


<Private property based on the labour of the small proprietor, free competition, democracy, all the catchwords with which the capitalists and their press deceive the workers and the peasants are things of the distant past. Capitalism has grown into a world system of colonial oppression and of the financial strangulation of the overwhelming majority of the population of the world by a handful of “advanced” countries. And this “booty” is shared between two or three powerful world plunderers armed to the teeth (America, Great Britain, Japan), who are drawing the whole world into their war over the division of their booty.

- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, PREFACE TO THE FRENCH AND GERMAN EDITIONS

<Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the advanced countries hasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Hi Ultraviolet here from the Americans Communist Party.
If you aren't an African child working in a mine then you're a petty borgeoiues barista uber driver faggot and not an actual AMERICAN worker like me, Ultraviolet the gigastreamer.

>>2573087
this image proves the validity of dialectical materialism

an sketch of Stalin I did for practice

>>2578251
that's really good

>>2578733
here anon i made it less wordy