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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2583313
>Honestly the UK left could easily take over the lower rungs of the judiciary if they actually knew anything about how British institutions actually function.

Good idea

>>2583740
>an issue with curtis though is that he appears to have no concept of history before the 20th century
Other than perhaps extending this to 19th century for industrialisation, how important do you really think history before that is for influencing present day?

Isn't that one of Curtis's main messages? That our obsession with the past, or rather, a mythological past, is what's keeping us from coming up with new ideas?

<Corbyn’s clique began the witch-hunt on day one, got its organisational strategy and standing orders passed and remains firmly in control of the levers of power. However, the left is clearly winning the battle for hearts and minds. Jack Conrad gives the view from inside the ACC hall
https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1564/a-triumph-for-citizen-sultana/



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I discovered the answer to what causes Quantum Fabric to exist. It has been 40 years since I started my research, but I may be the first person to know unless others have hidden their research.
The research is stored in multiple hard drives, I will upload all of it in one conditon. Legalize all drugs, destigmatize them and promote responsible use in the AES states.
I am messaging you leftypol users as it can be your historic mission because if I were to message representatives of the AES nations I may get kidnapped and the research be forcefully seized. You must message them if you want the research and the answer.
Starting today I set a deadline of three weeks. If drugs aren't legalized by three weeks I will not upload the research and if I am ever caught an appropriate dead man's switch has been set.
For every reply that badmouths drugs and drug users I will delete pieces of the research from beggining to end. If this thread is deleted or moved the research will not be released.
For reference I work at the Berkeley Lab. More proof of work will be posted in the near future.

daaaaaamn. I don't think they'll do it bro. AES states arent into drugs. Maybe post something amazing and they'll consider it… PLEASE don't delete!!!

>>2584179
Teleportation is possible not probable. Right now, though, it can only be done with subatomic particles, with my research it can be accomplished on a larger scale and more than you could imagine.

>>2584189
I can show it in practice but it would be pointless since its easy to accuse of stop motion.



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2583990
> Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.
>
> On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution.

LGBT emancipation is a core plank of communism.

>>2584020
Abolishing the nuclear family as a norm doesn’t imply homosexuality and transgender politics.

>>2584020
Eh, not a "plank" so much as a historical-material development. It's so much a "Marxist" project but an outcome of concrete social transformation.

>>2584022
Guess again gayboy

>>2584025
NTA but there no reason why I can't live in a townhouse with extended family including my many wives



 

Opinion of Nick Land(CCRU time)/Deleuze?Are they too schizo? Also opinion on Dugin/Nick land(Atlantism vs Eurasianism). I think they are greatest philosophers and they were not clear to everyone.
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>>2583807
Legendary post.

>>2583806
misleading at best

>>2583813
hegel and diogenes laertius both say that plato invented dialectics

>>2583825
and its not the same. if you disagree go ahead and explain

>>2583825
There is difference between dialectic materialism and dialectics



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Is it impossible to be unbiased? Or is it rather that a prevalence of biased sources makes it difficult to arrive at the truth?

If we were to say that it is impossible to be unbiased, then how do you arrive at objective truth? Is it to be self-aware and honest about these biases and then to adjust? Doesn‘t this necessitate knowledge about objective truth beforehand to be able to make such an adjustment? And wouldn‘t that be a contradiction to the initial claim that it is impossible to be unbiased?
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>>2583889
> obviously not
Then we’re in agreement. You overcome your biases in service of what you consider “true” which many people already do including people who don’t believe it’s possible to completely get rid of all biases.
> submitting to them
OK, but you already established you submit to the idea of an “objective truth” politically.

>>2581403
This is the most thought provoking philosophical post I've seen on any chan in over a decade. I think the answer to this lies in the discernment of every contribution to the question, and I only have a metaphysical one. Each of us has a different starting point, so we are prone to bias. Orientation provides context which aids navigation but its expression is often lost in translation, so objectivity lies in careful evaluation of circumstance, which itself is subject to bias. Objective truth in this case is discernment of lived experience. Some claim to know this from their understanding of God, but from my perspective these don't appear to understand from experience aside from academic endeavors. I say objective truth can always be sought but never fully possessed, and seeking it can help overcome various cognitive biases, but nobody can it hold all within themselves. How's that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmA705ULjc

>>2581403
IMO objective truth does exist but reality is so insanely complex that humans cannot fully grasp it. We just can't perceive or measure all of it. We can only get closer and closer to the truth. So accounting for biases and shortcomings in perception requires endless iteration and revision.

>>2583922
You must've missed out the time a 420Chan user recorded his own phone with the front camera without using a mirror, the phone saw itself.
https://leftypol.org//siberia/res/627790.html#q692312

>>2584132
Haha. Yeah I missed it,



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Based Russia finally banning lgbtpedo game, more Anti-Imperialists nations should do the same.


Russia doesn’t tolerate LGBTpedos unlike West and their degenerate vassals.
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>>2583863
Hmm you might be right

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Actually hold on a damn second, aren't those "RTSG" accounts that spam Z and Infrared shit a Roblox thing? Russia really does need to crack down on this stuff.

>>2583829
IIRC Roblox had an actual pedo problem. And more predatory microtransaction schemes than usual. Or at least made worse because the audience is younger children.

Another case of the RF doing the right…ish thing for entirely wrong the reasons lel

>>2584109
> *the wrong reasons

Based RF acting as the vanguard against child exploitation.



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What's actually wrong with the Falange?

>supports workers rights

>strong state that controls strategic sectors
>actually supported the separation of church and state, unlike Franco
>built lots of public housing and infrastructure
>implemented social welfare measures, such as the mandatory family allowance system
>hated Freemasonry, big bankers, and oligarchs, without being anti-semitic
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>>2582240
holy based

>>2582281
spain did not recognise israel until 1986

>>2581857
>Even if some leadership remains committed to Communism it really wouldn't be difficult for the membership to upend things and go full Fash.
oh god imagine if haz becomes the american ᴉuᴉlossnW.

>>2581857
>whereas the more "radical" and "working class" types (closer to Lumpen imo) wanted to beat people to death
I can't find it online, but there's a pic of a Falangist rally in Madrid in this book that was against the USSR in 1941 at the onset of the German invasion, and the front row of guys in it was a mix of slick-looking guys (nice suits, well cut), guys with paramilitary uniforms with straps across their chests, and then some absolute zoot-suit looking gangsters.

>I posted Haz mainly because I think he kind of already falls into this camp or, if not, risks falling into it more than most other "Communist" parties.

I mean just look at the aesthetics of the pic you posted. All black outfit. This weirdly ritualized / wedding ceremony stage dressing.

People say "saying aesthetics = politics" is a fascist thing. I don't agree with that exactly. It's more that fascists took ritualized political aesthetics to an extreme, although aesthetics are a constituent part of political ideologies and to understand them requires some attention to their aesthetic dimension.



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The biggest rebutal I see in the eyes of the average person to "socialism" and "communism" is that it's utopic, that it relies on bad assumptions, that it doesn't work in reality etc. In essence, that we're advocating for something that can't be and that we have no alternative to capitalism.
And, to that effect, what are we even advocating for ? It appears to me that we have a bunch of different movements with many different goals that don't actually ressemble one another. Yet, despite this, very few of these movements have actual "models", it just seems like they want to reform or do a revolution for the sake of action rather than purpose.
Shouldn't we concentrate on clear objectives and goals before having all this talk about how marxism-leninism-maoism-gonzalo thought is superior to cybernetic-trotskism-councilism in achieving [we run into the problem here]?

>inb4 abolition of private property, abolition of capitalism, abolition of alienation

We can't actually base our objectives around these vagues goals though, or at least not at the current time and at the forefront. Abolition of private property doesn't mean anything if there's no framework to offer an alternative or to replace it. Marx laid us many goals but, given that he didn't specify what or how, shouldn't it be up to us to conceptualize the type of system which we want in accordance with the relevant theories he proposed.

Apart from small intellectuals scattered everywhere (Cockshott, Schweickart etc), there seems to be an evident lack of clear model that actually adresses the critique of marx's ambitions and dismisses its apparent utopianism.
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>>2580651
They don't though. They propose many reforms but they fundamentally don't have a way to coordinate labor whilst simultaneously negating private property.

>>2580588
>What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour
That's a bit like parecon. Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services

>>2581203
>Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
>I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services
Yeah, of course, it would be impossible to supplant the bulk of production instantaneously. But it is something that could as you say progressively supplant services, and work in conjunction with state seizure. As an alternative economic model it does have possibilities, and could constitute the slow withering of state control of industry.
Something I haven't seen proposed from people purely interested in taking control of the political apparatus. Both are required.

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>>2581119
This nonsense is playing out with ubi and job loss due soyence and technology

>>2573868
A society where classes have been smashef, the state been demolished and the money burned, where the workers manage the means of production and where resources are allocated through central planning from one's abilities according to one's needs.

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>>2573868
This thread is a great place to repost my very relevant Effort post about the “Aesthetics of Communism” from my thread of the same title https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2545468.html , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

This Effort Post will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead completely destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM

As a supporter of the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, I obviously realize that the Democrats are a Controlled Opposition Party who exist to keep the Workers and Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of Naw Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, inside the U$ corralled and controlled, while the dominant ruling Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans transform the U$ into a Full-Blown Fascist Police State, which combined with the fact that the U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American population like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police, as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists as stipulated by Lenin’s principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR, which will happen once World War III escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted, with the former U$ Balkanized into a New African SSR that includes the Black/New Afrikan majority counties of the Black Belt, a Hispano-American SFSR that includes the Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo majority counties in the U$ Southwest, along with the rest of the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas, while the White Settler majority regions in the rest of the former U$ becomes part of the Anglo-American SFSR, which also includes the English-speaking provinces of Canada, as Quebec will become its own SSR, with all the Native American reservations becoming ASSRs) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

However, as I have stated many timPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2546933
I was going to call satire until you actually explained the King Lear thing in a way that makes too much sense to be a joke

>>2525627
>“Tor” is a CIA/NSA/FBI Honeypot created by U$ Naval Intelligence, so I don’t think I need to say anymore about the merits of viewing “Tor” as some kind of “Anonymous” Internet, when in reality their are ZERO websites on the Internet that are not fully accessible to Glowies because the entire Internet itself emerged out of the U$ Military ARPANET project
LOW-ORBIT TRUTH RAY

Bump, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2547121
Thanks for the compliment Comrade, anyone who reads King Lear against the grain realizes that it has a much deeper meaning than just being a parable about a crazy old King attempting to divide his Kingdom between his three daughters, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2547122
Thanks for the compliment Comrade, it is really quite absurd that the whole ARPENET thing has not clued in more people about who really controls the entire Internet, and it is even more asinine that these same people who have not figured out who runs the Internet, believe that the Naval Intelligence Honeytrap for dummies known as “Tor”, is “Anonymous” in any way, shape, or form, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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I have decided to Bump my Thread about the “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform” with a related In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis Effort Post, detailing the two Shining Paths to Communism, the Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism and the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

The Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism operates under the assumption that their will be a total Fascist takeover of the Imperial Core in which Bourgeois Liberal Democracy is permanently suspended that will lead to an inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalating into a Global Nuclear War that will completely destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (In both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, where Maoist PPW is currently viable, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW will not be viable until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended with these events being connected and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first Map I posted, the second Map I posted specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, while the third Image I posted shows the version of the Two-State Solution to the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict implemented in the future Global USSR with the Zionist State overthrown by a Maoist PPW and replaced by a Jewish SSR created inside the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land swaps that are very similar to the two Maps in the third Image I posted, while the West Bank and Gaza are placed in the Arab SFSR that will include all the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa as shown in both my Map of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in the first Image I posted and the second Image I posted that specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, and the 1:1 Land swaps between the Jewish SSR and Arab SFSR will mean that Arab villages in the “Triangle” region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_(Israel) on the Jewish side of the 1967 borders will be exchanged for Jewish Settlements on the Arab side of the 1967 borders that are inside the “Seam Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Would any of my fellow Comrades like to provide an In-depth Intellectual critique of the two Shining Paths to Communism presented in my Dialectical Materialist Effort post at >>2578310 , 🤔?



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>>2578917
Sihanouk, uncle ho, and brother number 1?

>>2578956
close enough, leftmost is Kaysone Phomvihane - Laotian communist [Lao People's Revolutionary Party & Pathet Lao] leader and first president of Lao People's Democratic Republic

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hanging out with my friends♡

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>Despite the shifting influences of neighbors Thailand and Vietnam on Cambodia after the demise of Angkor, Theravada Buddhism subsisted with no major shocks or rifts to the established religious order for several hundred years (Harris 2005). Theravada Buddhism endured in spite of incursions by Islam, the French, the Japanese, and the Americans to name a few. The religion’s only genuine struggle for the continuation of its existence occurred during three years, eight months, and twenty days between April 1975 and January 1979. For the duration of that timeframe, the Communist Party of Kampuchea (CPK), or as Prince Sihanouk infamously coined them, the “Khmer Rouge”, organized one of the most brutal assaults on any religion in modern history.
>Democratic Kampuchea’s minister of Foreign Affairs Ieng Sary, soon after the Khmer Rouge victory, announced to the world that the Communist Party of Kampuchea’s government “granted freedom to all religious groups, a freedom which was clearly written into the new constitution: ‘Every citizen of Kampuchea has the right to hold any belief in religion and has as well the right to have neither belief nor religion. Any reactionary religion interfering with Democratic Kampuchea and her people is strictly prohibited’ (Constitution of Democratic Kampuchea, chapter XV, article 20). However, as he also asserted that the monasteries were opened throughout the country at that time (Newsweek September 4, 1975)”, the Communist Party of Kampuchea actually aimed to exterminate all religious beliefs (Yang Sam 1987: 67).

>The eradication of Buddhism under the Khmer Rouge destroyed more than just the religion sanctioned and supported by the previous regime; it destroyed something that was integral to the traditional Khmer way of life. Although not completely immune to the secularizing tendencies of modernization, Cambodians were a highly religious people (Hawk 1990: 131). “Like Roman Catholicism in Poland, Theravada Buddhism in Cambodia embodied and represented Cambodia’s tradition, culture, and identity. For centuries it was the main source of learning and education” (Ibid: 131). According to missionary Francois Ponchaud who lived in Cambodia from 1965 until he was forced to flee Phnom Penh ten years later: “until April 1975 the word for ‘race’ and ‘religion’ in Cambodia were the same, and in everyday language ‘Khmer’ implied ‘Buddhis
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