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im a socdem but a very left one ive read lots of marx and i agree w a lot of the economic ideas and i would be very naice to the communists can i pls stay
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people are trolling you
dirty heckin libs are known to prowl this website so as a socdem youll be fine but expect people to shit all over your beliefs just like anyone else because they dont align perfectly with theirs, its still leftypol after all

>>2573244
You sure know nothing about fascists

People will call you a fascist for being a commie-friendly socdem then ignore that you can post with a nazi flag on here LOL

kys

>>2572569
>can i pls stay
Social democracy fails because these radlib nerds who "read lots of Marx" are like children who think they can just rationally convince their parents to quit their jobs so they can live in Disneyland 24/7. Capitalists will simply try to accumulate more bourgeois property ownership to extract more rents, get real

>>2580131
>liberate the capitalists of your nation
liberalism is historically progressive if you live in a feudal system with monarchy who hoard wealth instead of doing the Marx commodity cycle of re-investing to buy new industrial technology and so on. Social democracy for Lenin was revolutionary, but its a joke for the PMC art and culture critic Marxists in Jeffrey Epstein's home New York City



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>>2582264
>I especially love the cynicism of making capitalists pay for the military and police designed to crush porkies under the proletarian boot; it closely mimics how historically the ruling classes forced proletariat and peasantry to pay for their own oppression
shitposting aside, I have to agree. Poetic justice

>>2582267
Also, the ruling class move of STALLING on promises made to the oppressed class, regrouping, and reneging on your promises to oppress even harder. Like Lenin did to Americans, lmao - "wait a bit, we'll give you all kinds of concessions, ahaha, just get rid of Japanese, and there'll be no one else to get those concessions! You'll be monopolists!" and then just like "lol you are alone lmao, you have rebellions at home whne you try to send weapons to your troops in Siberia, so, why don't you excuse yourself out of the door?"

>>2582255
your understanding of fascism is the same libtards have

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgzqxjzjyqo
Yep. This has hit me like Krondstadt hit the anarchists. China is confirmed a fascist totalitarian state.

>>2582537
>some sickos buy childlike sex dolls
>now no one can have sex dolls
it's so over



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2581993
>I recommend Sally Engels on the origin of the family
>also Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital".

Why?

>I recommend Robert Chapman's "Empire of Normality". I've also heard good things about Althusser and Bruce Cohen's "Psychiatric Hegemony". I also recommend Vierkant and Adler-Bolton's "Health Communism: A Surplus Manifesto". There's actually some fairly good work on Marxism and disability.

How does solve the problem?

>>2575163
>This is a Franken-left. I won’t even call it a “left”.

Literally every generation says this. Old Left comrades like the ones who participated in CPUSA in its heyday and who went to jail during McCarthyism hated the 60s/boomer New Left. Those same boomers who were active in the New Left all hated the Gen X/xennial left from the 90s. Gen X/xennial leftists who participated in the anti-globalization movement all mocked millennial leftists for being too sensitive about feminist and queer issues. Now millennial leftists like you cry about zoomer leftists being too sensitive to neurodivergent issues and issues regarding generational trauma. This is the SAME SHIT in every generation. "Why isn't the left the way it was when I was 21?" BECAUSE MATERIAL CONDITIONS CHANGE YOU FUCKING MORON.

You know how when conservatives are asked what period in US history they consider to be the "good old days" they always point to the time when they were 10? Aging leftists like you are no different. When asked about when you think the left was good you'll always point to the time when you were in college and ask why the new generation of college students doesn't believe what you believed when you were their age. This isn't hard to see.

>>2581993
How are any of these texts relevant to someone who was molested by her stepfather and has crippling PTSD because of it?

>>2575163
Would be interesting to understand why Gen Z is so obsessed with trauma.

>>2582232
>>2582235
I think these people would be interested in the structural origins of misogyny and saneism.



 

>burgerland
>bourgeoisville located outside of a major city
>cant fucking breathe, feeling like i'm about to pass out
>call ambulance
>takes at least 6 minutes to arrive
>arrive at hospital
>put in wheelchair and taken to waiting area
>there's a fucking line
>wait 20 minutes
>get triaged, EKG, wait another 10 minutes
>get a room, blood drawn, wait some more
>see the doctor for like 5 minutes, describe symptoms
>at least an hour later get breathing drug
>get discharged shortly after, can breathe a bit better but still feel like shit and nothing shows up on the bare minimum tests they do
>"how are you getting home?"
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As a non-burger, Michael Moore's Sicko was an eye-opener. Incomparable to other Western countries, despite our problems. If you want a far better version of Moore's political stunts, try ''Chaser's War on Everything.

For real, >>2582046 unfortunately hasn't seen what good looks like. I've had both bad (didn't notice an obvious fracture in an x-ray that the caster noticed in under two seconds, one that [jokingly] accused me of faking excruciating testicular torsion that almost suffocated a testicle) and some excellent ones. There are piece of shit doctors everywhere, but doctors aren't pieces of shit everywhere.

Also shout out to the rural retard doctor that a /leftypol/ comr8 mentioned who, when our comr8 told them they were having alcohol withdrawal tremors, told them to stop drinking alcohol. Literally lethal advice.

Just got kicked off of my parent's obummercare, hope I don't get sick or injured this year before I can apply for myself!

I've been having to take my 78 year old grandmother to her doctors appointments lately because she's senile, and everyone else in the family fucked off a long time ago. She's not racist or anything weird like that, just nobody else is willing to take care of her. About a month ago she fell and traumatized her arthritic hand. We thought it was broken but the x rays showed nothing. Turns out her tendons just became massively swolen from the fall, causing immobility in her hand. Now she needs physical therapy but we have to wait another month for her insurance to approve it. Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it. She doesn't know how to use a smartphone or an email so I also have to do sign up to use my email for everything involving her. It's been a total nightmare. I'm actually leaving out some other key details to avoid saying too much about myself. What this experience has made me realize is I don't want to burden my kids with taking care of me when I get old and my wife and I have both privately discussed finding humane ways to commit suicide if it ever comes to that.

>>2582512
> Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it
also it was physical paperwork. like 10 pages, a total nightmare, and it's her writing hand she injured, and also some of the pages were basically trying to get us to sign up for random bullshit having nothing to do with the matter at hand, so I had to read carefully. Forgot to mention that part.



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

Previous Thread Archives
#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#2 https://archive.ph/sntTt

Previous thread: >>2539692

Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2582213
>it is not a good look for the left
lol who gives a fuck the US will bomb innocent people you fucking retard
take this "muh optics" bullshit to /USApol/ and then kill yourself

>>2582243
How do you know?


>>2582260
wow someone was really trying to glow it up in here and failing, huh. Hope they got fired for incompetence.

>>2582149
NVKETRVKE (a truth nuke about nukes)



 

Doesn't the fact that CHINA has multiple STOCK exchanges, prove that its CAPITALIST? How do le elder scroll ones explain this? Even old turn of the century imperial germany was closer to socialism than modern day China.
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>>2582022
> hyper-capitalist
what is "hyper" capitalism and why is a state controlled by as communist party managing a slow transition from state capitalism to socialism, just as Engels predicted would happen, somehow "more" or "hyper" capitalist compared with bourgeois dictatorships in the west, especially when that communist party first took power in relatively semi-feudal conditions? Why are "Dengoids" and "MLoids" wrong when they show you Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin, all saying the same thing, that once a DOTP is in power they have to practice stewardship over a transition at a national level, based on material conditions they find themselves in, by using state capital?

>>2582307
Oh yeah and it was an absolute delight talking to your retarded ass, who cannot engage in basic arguments or defend their position at all, rather just gasping exasperatedly and referring to some kind of seniority that must be upheld without explaining why that matters at all. The fact that you're asking for anyone to be centered, rather than view history and the development of Marxism into the current day as a continuous whole that you are also subject to, is the problem. This conversation does suck, because you are a retard and I was stupid enough to think you might actually engage with anything being put forward instead of complain about 4chan. I'm out too, fuck you and the waste of time it was arguing with you anon

>>2582022
>facts
>doesnt post any source

Ok, buddy.

>>2582307
>Other guy is more stubborn than a mule in their thinking
the irony is palpable

>>2582446
Where’s that article about how western “Marxism” worships martyrdom and hates success? I feel like that’s always relevant when discussing people shitting their pants about muh Dengism, that and racism of course,because god forbid subhuman orientals do capitalism better than the herrenvolk. That’s what it all boils down to in the end and why they embrace self defeating martyrdom and hoping socialism



 


who cares, communists will just organize around some other name for a while (iskra, rabocheye dyelo, zarya etc)

Their form of communism was imported by the soviet, it wans't a genuine grassroot movement, more like a top down change that many didn't like it or accepted that well, no wonder some people still salty about it

>The Court combined both applications into one proceeding and on Wednesday 3 December issued a unanimous judgment. – The Court ruled that the objectives and activities of the Communist Party of Poland are incompatible with the provisions of the Constitution. Thus, the Court divided the argument of President Karol Nawrocki, indicating that communism, as a result of the criminal Bolshevik revolution, tragically changed the face of a huge part of the world, and its social and economic effects are felt in many countries to this day. Communist ideology is aimed against the fundamental values of humanity, the traditions of European and Christian civilization. In this context, the programmatic activity of the Communist Party of Poland, referring to the pre-war activity of the communist Workers’ Party of Poland and praising the attack of Soviet Russia on Poland in 1920, was particularly shocking – justified the judgment by the rapporteur judge, Krystyna Pawłowicz.
holy based

>we have to ban the 300 strong party that's done literally zero illegal actions because communidum scary
poland is more authoritarian than the ruskis lol



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Why not nationalize merchant capital? It seems like a perfectly reasonable liberal democratic reform that is easily achievable under capitalism. The same way the government takes care of roads it should take care of staffing, education, commuting, communications, shipping, retail and logistics of all sorts. Industry should focus on making goods and providing services and not on costs like staffing, training skilled workers and shipping goods. All that stuff is pure overhead which is best nationalized. Picture unrelated.

>>2562816
some countries do this already (ex: in mexicos constitution)

el bumpo



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L/Acc Edition

Mods, don't move this thread to /latam/. This general is meant for English language discussion of Brazilian politics focusing on an international audience (think of it as our embassy on this board).

PT-BR: >>>/latam/13593
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>>2581755
They are in the "trust the plan" phase. Opportunists are trying to launch themselves as an "heir" to Bolsonaro's legacy while his family tries to keep the cohesion. Truth is, Lula is in a much more comfortable position with him in jail, as no alternative to Bolsonaro can match his popularity.

Call me when that dwarf stops cucking the brazilian working class (showed no solidarity when there was mass mobilization to end 6 day work week) and breast feeding bankers, speculators and rentiers.

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>>2581759
>his family tries to keep the cohesion
His family who?
His wife just messed up their plans for Ceará state, sparking Mr. former-4th-International-superstar's fury.

>>2581754
lol not a chance, I don't think they will release him but even if they do, his political powers are revoked and he can't run for anything until at least 2030. Someone from his family or some other oportunist close-ish to him will take his spot - I'm hoping his wife goes for it because all of Bolsonaro's sons absolutely despise her and that would be a pretty funny situation

>>2582176
Is she /ourgirl/?



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Dictatorship-era military officers rally in Argentina
FORMER military officers who served in Argentina’s brutal dictatorship and their families staged a rare rally at the weekend to push for the release of colleagues imprisoned for human rights abuses committed during the junta’s 1976-83 rule. Saturday’s demonstration was seen as a provocation in the country of “nunca mas,” the slogan that represents Argentina’s commitment to “never again” return to authoritarianism.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/dictatorship-era-military-officers-rally-argentina

Hundreds flee central Haiti after gangs launch large-scale attacks and burn homes
The bulk of Haiti’s police force and the Kenyan officers leading a UN-backed mission to help repel gangs are in the capital, Port-au-Prince, which itself is largely held by gangs. Guerby Simeus, a Pont-Sondé official, said on Monday that he had confirmed nearly a dozen deaths, including a mother and her child and a local government employee.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/01/haiti-armed-gangs-attack-artibonite

Nasry Asfura, conservative backed by Trump, takes lead in Honduras election according to early results
Conservative candidate Nasry Asfura of the National Party (PN), who received the endorsement of U.S. President Donald Trump ahead of the vote, is leading the count with 40.54% of votes and about 43% of polling places counted, according to preliminary results released by the National Electoral Council (CNE). Second place goes to Salvador Nasralla, of the Liberal Party, with about 38.99% of votes so far, and third place to Rixi Moncada of the governing Libre party with 19.49% of the votes, marking a sharp decline for the democratic socialist movement founded by former president Manuel Zelaya.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-01/nasry-asfura-conservative-backed-by-trump-takes-lead-in-honduras-election-according-tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Starbucks to pay $35M to NYC workers after city alleges years of abuses
The department began looking into dozens of complaints against Starbucks locations in 2022, eventually expanding its investigation to the hundreds of stores throughout the city. Mayuga said investigators documented more than half a million alleged violations of the city’s Fair Workweek Law, which requires retail and fast-food companies to give employees predictable schedules and advance notice of changes.
https://gothamist.com/news/starbucks-to-pay-35m-to-nyc-workers-after-city-alleges-years-of-abuses
https://archive.ph/62sZo

Zillow deletes climate risk data from listings after complaints it harms sales
In September last year, the online real estate marketplace introduced a tool showing the individual risk of wildfire, flood, extreme heat, wind and poor air quality for one million properties it lists, explaining that “climate risks are now a critical factor in home-buying decisions” for many Americans. But Zillow has now deleted this climate index in the wake of complaints from real estate agents and some homeowners that the rankings appeared arbitrary, could not be challenged and harmed house sales. The
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/dec/01/zillow-removes-climate-risk-data-home-listings

‘Shamelessly Corrupt’: Trump Frees Private Equity Executive Convicted of Defrauding 10,000+ Investors
David Gentile, the founder and former CEO of GPB Capital, was convicted of securities and wire fraud last year and sentenced to prison in May, but he ended up serving just days behind bars. The New York Times reported over the weekend that the White House “argued that prosecutors had falsely characterized the business as a Ponzi scheme.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/donald-trump-david-gentile

Idaho prison system reopens sexual abuse case, reverses finding after InvesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

CP of Greece, The KKE salutes the mass uprising of toiling farmers and condemns government repression
On Sunday 30 November, Greek farmers began blocking major highways with tractors and other agricultural machinery. The government responded with repression, using chemicals, riot police and arrests to suppress the farmers’ mobilization, but these efforts proved futile in the face of the toiling farmers’ mass participation, determination and organized disobedience. The farmers are fighting for their future, to prevent their eventual extermination and to secure the chance to earn a decent living from their work in their villages. They are demanding support for their shrinking income, which has been eroded by the policies pursued by all governments that have consistently served the interests of business groups and implemented the guidelines of the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy (CAP).
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-The-KKE-salutes-the-mass-uprising-of-toiling-farmers-and-condemns-government-repression/

Inside Your Party Conference: Is This Farewell to Corbynism?
With the two-day founding conference for Your Party (and that is now the official name) concluded in Liverpool, Zarah Sultana has triumphed in a drawn out battle with former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. To rapturous applause from members, she’s staked out a new approach to leftwing politics in this country: socialist, democratic, decentralised and absolutely furious. But will it work? One of the more enjoyable features of attending Your Party’s founding conference in Liverpool was watching representatives of the mainstream press struggle to grasp the idea of a party under democratic control. One of the least enjoyable was watching them roll their eyes and sneer at the views of the 2,500 Your Party members sortitioned (selected by lottery) to attend. For many in the media and probably across the country too, democracy is framed by big figureheads whose pronouncements either do or do not attract voters. The relevance of the electorate lies not in voters’ opinions, but rather how they namelessly distribute across pie charts when the figureheads seek their endorsement once every few years. “What do you mean, what do you mean?” askePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna

>Dictatorship-era military officers rally in Argentina
what is the cure for such behavior?



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