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Another radlib myth deboonked. Marx and Engels did talk about the middle class and it means exactly what even non-communists would expect it to mean.

>This middle class — which includes everyone who is a gentleman, i. e., has a decent income without being excessively wealthy-is, however, a middle class only compared with the wealthy nobility and capitalists; in relation to the workers its position is that of an aristocracy

https://wikirouge.net/texts/en/The_Position_of_the_Political_Parties

Incoming cope in 3… 2…
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>>2241638
>You people are always gripping about finance, so why not call this "financialism" instead?
OK let me just ctrl+F find and replace every single marxist text written since 1867 and phone up every marxist on earth and say "sorry buddy, it's called financialism now because one guy refused to understand that Capitalism refers to the age of industrial capital and bourgeois society which began to emerge with the decline of feudalism"

>>2241549
>wageism
>>2241638
>financialism
You would still complain "ummm finance has always existed, ummm wages have always existed" and refuse to see the expanded definition of the term as it is used in the specific context we are talking about

>>2241644
>You obviously do
I mean i dont care about vowing down to the ghost of Marx before stating a fact
You seem to reply to everything with "well, according to marx…" and get surprised when others dont.

>>2241648
>refused to understand that Capitalism refers
Again, Marx doesnt own the term capitalism, and neither do his fanboys.

>>2241656
>"ummm finance has always existed, ummm wages have always existed"
Well its true tho, labor and capital have always existed. Finance, less so because you can have economies without finance. However the use of capital and labor are UNIVERSAL in all economies in all ages


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Consumption is not a labor issue. Whining about treatlerites is just petty-bourgeois guilt. There is no ethical way to spend ill-gotten gains. If anything monopoly rents are a reason to push for cheaper treats. Socialists will enjoy the people's slop.
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>>2241515
It's the 4chan term for sex with fat women

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>>2241515

>>2241657
Maybe guys should take the plapill look how healthy that anon at the computer looks

>>2241662
He's a former (now spiritual) incel who got in shape, but could only attract an obese diabetic with severe hormonal imbalances. He now has a gf, but was it worth it?

>>2241671
What if he got buff from lifting his heifer and trying to plap through her enormous flaps.


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What exactly is the Order of the Nine Angles?
Where does their ideology comes from?
How the fuck did David Myatt became a muslim out of nowhere?
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>>2241475
christianity is also borrowed from previous traditions. does that mean there was pre-christian christianity? its a contradiction in terms. so, to historically locate alchemy, we must look at the hermetica, which arrived even after the gospels. this is what we may call historical evidence. what evidence is there that a belief system called "alchemy" existed milennia before this? none. this is where the occult loses its head.
>it was inherited from them
it was. alchemy was lost to the west and then returned to them, where it was then combined into rosicrucianism during the renaissance, which helped march forward the protestant reformation, by the "luther rose" in germany and "tudor rose" in england. even the templars as proto-masons worshipped baphomet from being in contact with the arabs and ashashins.
>>2241481
well there is also the contradiction today of anarcho-tyranny. the state is the father of crime. so its complicated.

>>2241496
they didnt worship baphomet they worshiped abrasax and the severed head of saint john. youre such a midwit anon. you call yourself an occultist?

>>2241521
>they didnt worship baphomet
that was the name given from their accusers, which was indeed a decapitated head. many today think it was a translation of "mahomet", since again, they were in contact with many arabs. eliphas levi later relates this baphomet as lucifer, or the "astral light" of imagination, in his "history of magic". this magical "fluid" is also called electro-magnetism by others. on abraxas, they used the symbol, but i cant find evidence that it was itself, worshipped as a deity. tjhe johannite claims also came centuries after their trial in 1307.

>>2241496
The state is the father of crime. Can't remember which French monarch said "L'État, c'est moi ", but crime, or corruption is really B.O.G. Standard for the unchecked state:
https://www.tiktok.com/@graceblakeley0/video/7343289083671678241
>>2241373
>in my own time i have been trying to restore what has been lost to the o9a, very privately and very carefully.
Probably feasible. More so than worldly influence: There's just too much competition now from Andrew Tate-style scammers. Also in the news is Neil Gaiman suing the women who accused him of abuse, for breach of a non disclosure agreement. Really, who needs evil cults?

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>>2241623
i think of the law thencewise:
what is crime? that which is beyond law.
who makes law? those beyond the law.
(this is my schmittian understanding; i.e. "law" is just the crime of the state itself)
crime is defined by the law and law is defined by crime. without "crime", there would be no law, and no state. therefore, the state must create crime to defend law. this is the general paradox; the greater the law, the greater the crime.
>Really, who needs evil cults?
i came to the conclusion a while ago, that one can only be truly evil if he acts in the name of the good, and conversely, one who defines himself as evil, is limited in his activity, by the boundaries of goodness. this is why christianity will always have more blood on its hands than satanism. again, more paradoxes.


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If Trump wants to turn a dump into a sparkling luxury resort town, instead of seizing Gaza why not do this with Detroit?

Simply move all 700k people out temporarily, get other cities like Chicago or Pittsburgh to take them in (or even better, ship them to Toronto and let the Canadians deal with them), demolish everything with the exception of downtown, and rebuild the whole thing from scratch. Make the new Detroit into the Monte Carlo of the Midwest. Think about it. Citizens could even demand human-centred European infrastructure which favours pedestrians and cyclists instead of cars and mixed-use buildings instead of waste-of-space single family homes.

Someone suggest this to Trump.
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Move all the Israelis to new delhi

>>2185868
Canadians won’t take them.

at the end of the day trump still has neolib brainrot so him and his people consider the idea of the government doing stuff(that isnt intervening in favor of the market with violence) as literally 1984 Stalin Mao 200 bajilliion dead

>>2239555
comments so butt hurt lmao I occassionally forgot some whites will legitimately get upset even you acknowledge the existence of race in the US lmao.

>>2185868
Sorry but whos going to pay for this? Any surplus funds are allocated to israel, you think we can afford crystal detroit?


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I don't think my psyche could handle witnessing the EU collapse or be reduced to an irrelevant institution by far right """reforms""". But that is just the outcome that is becoming increasingly more likely with each passing year.
How do I cope?
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>>2241236
Yes it is. Some things are universal
Workers work, and they work using tools/installations/machines and land, whcih we today collectively call capital.
A blacksmithing operation in ancient assyria was capitalism, as it used labor and tools to create valuable iron products

>>2241243
>its irrelevant if such laborers get paid in soup or with wages
yeah go read a fucking book moron, agrarian and slave society are not capitalists and do not have wage, its simply not how this works

>>2241605
>agrarian and slave society are not capitalists and do not have wage,
Any worker that works for someone else besides his own family is getting a wage or compemnsation of some kind and its always a fraction of the added value created in the operation. There are no exceptions to this.
Slave and agrarian societies are 100% capitalist as they do the same thing all capitalist societies do, they employ capital and labor to create wealth.
Who cares about a wage or "mode of production"? Theres only one mode of production and that is that workers work using capital and then get a cut from the generated added value.

>>2241624
repeating your stupid shit doesnt make it anymore true. Educate yourself you moron, dont stay an ignorant retard, and stop shitting up threads with your ignorance or go do the human race a favor and blow your brains out

>>2241631
> Educate yourself you moron,
Are you writing a response just to insult me? You dont have any arguments so yes, i will repeat mine.
Every society uses capital and labor. There is no other way to generate wealth, of any kind. Any economic operation will use capital and laborers. All laborers get paid a fraction of the generated wealth and they are all bossed.
This is a constant in all societies. Theres nothing special about what you imagine to be "capitalism" contrasted to literally any other ism.
You think im wrong?
Name any society where capital and labor was not used to generate wealth. I cant think of a single one, maybe jungle aboriginals that walk around naked and eat spiders?


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
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>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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>>2241412
>but why the fuck is Zizek allowed to rant about quantum physics when is not even capable of providing proper footnotes for his historical anecdotes in his books?
he shouldn't, but the word quantum became tecnobabble in modern day equal to mystical or magical.

>>2240738
I think they just scattered away

I know it is still a bit too soon, but I am surprised by how little clout the Soytards actually got from this. Then again I don't really go to anywhere chan-related outside of 4chan and here myself so eh

>>2241015
we're back

>>2241565
I'm sad they didn't delete /pol/ when they had the chance.
They also didn't update the site at all so uh. What the fuck were they doing for a week?

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Pro-communism meme with 21K likes on Reddit


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We're all principled Marxist here right? Marx's position is somewhat nuanced but it seems to basically be that one should oppose immigration and support immigrants, e.g. we should work and advocate with immigrants for immigrant and worker rights in a collective struggle against the capitalist class, and the imperialist forces which create pressure for immigration, while also opposing this mechanism of lowering wages. Is this really a strong position though, it seems under sympathetic to me? Does it really just imply a cooperation with other nations to avoid expatriation, while working with those individuals that happen to arrive anyway? This is at least non-violent.

>Owing to the constantly increasing concentration of leaseholds, Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labor market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.

>And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

>This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organization. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.

>In reducing the Irish population by eviction and forcible emigration, to such a small number that English capital (capital invested in land leased for farmiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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This is stupidly phrased at the minimum.
If you're opposed to imperialism and support immigrants theres no reason for further policy.
The phrase "opposition to immigration" becomes meaningless.

Irish men have BBC

What exactly is being meant by "moral"?
As in: What is the moral position of an English member of the working class.

Angloids are vermin that should be annihilated

>>2241544
>moral
Suspect this is in reference to the following paragraph on the chauvinism etc.


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Now that the dust has settled, did his grand act of self-sacrifice for the Palestinian people truly accomplish anything?

Did it do anything to mobilize the American people to stop the genocide in Palestine? Did it help the Palestinian resistance in any way? Or was it a vain, self-righteous act that served zero purpose other than to make this guy a martyr?

Is self-sacrifice worth it?
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>>2240854
Who was?
Tons of people thought and still think its just "religion is le bad'

>>2240496
It forced the USA and Israel to employ open, unapologetic repression. This degrades their soft power strategy of being the good guis and has earned them many more enemies worldwide. This leads to political and then trade isolation, to which Israel is a lot more vulnerable than the US (The US can theoretically close the border and live as a closed economy, Israel cant)

>>2240519
>morale doesnt matter in war and struggle
you are ngmi

>>2240508
well said

>>2240854
There are 300+ million burgers dude. There absolutely were some who learned it was a genocide because of the video where a member of the US armed forces called it a genocide and publicly an hero'd over that fact.

>>2241564
You make a good point actually, and something I hand't really considered before. Like yeah at a small scale if he shot a zionist that might count as a material win, but the machine is a lot bigger than any individual and it would ultimately keep on trucking and he'd be forgotten. Instead, the self-sacrifice ends up fostering much more sympathy for the cause since nobody can attack him on the basis of hurting "innocents" and people who shit on him for this or that reason look deranged to normies. Meanwhile the extreme nature of setting himself on fire does scare the security apparatus who will as you say escalate the repression and get more obvious. While it's not generally a good idea to get yourself or other people hurt just to make a point, the senselessness of the repression and violence does seem to be spurring more regular people to action.


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canada thread continuing from >>1878602

gonna try and make a cool OP for this involving a few party sites and news outlets (note it's not complete if theres other shit that should be added in the next thread post it)

PARTIES:
>https://communist-party.ca/
>https://cpcml.ca/
>https://www.marxist.ca/
>https://ncpc-npcc.ca/
>https://www.democraticsocialists.ca/
>https://iww.ca/
>https://socialistaction.ca/

NEWS:
>https://pvonline.ca/
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>blocks your path

Mulcair was pretty good.
It's not his fault if women virtue signaling their submission to Islam are icky.

>>2240517
>centrism is good

>>2241031
I mean, I would love a left populist who is also a class reductionist, but were grading on a gradient here.

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>>2240517
>Mulcair was pretty good.
At bullshitting, reminder he started his political "career" in Conservative party circles. He was as much of an opportunist as Trudeau II, or Poilievre. Layton was the last good NDP leader, & even he was just a poor man's Ed Broadbent.


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