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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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Degrowth is based

The proletariat is a reactionary class, not a revolutionary one. Capitalism collapses all possibilities and revolution becomes impossible the more advanced capitalism becomes.

I don't hate White people

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>>That one can simultaneously hold Marxist-leninist tendencies, and support anarchist inspired formations in other regions.

>>Nihilism has a deeper and more direct historical relationship with anti‑capitalist thought than is often acknowledged, across traditions, including Leninism. The association is not exclusive to anarchists.


>>The most based of both Marxist-leninists, and anarchists usually just support people on the merit & dedication of their praxis so you'll get anarchists who praise che, or mao, and then you'll get MLs who love the paris communes history, and the EZLN


>>The CIA’s historical reliance on NGOs as covert instruments of influence funding, shaping, and deploying them to steer opposition movements into harmless channels, is well documented. Viewed through that lens, the contemporary landscape of leftist organizations begins to resemble less a collection of revolutionary parties and more a vast counter‑insurgency architecture of honey‑pots designed to absorb, professionalize, and neutralize genuine anti‑capitalist energy under the guise of NGO professionalism and party aesthetics.

Dialectical materialism is bad



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You will not be allowed to achieve class consciousness. they will turn this movement into another pro capitalist movement. the boomers and celebrities are already getting behind it, any talk of higher wages or lowering rents will be removed from the discussion, it's about trump. get evil trump out of the white house and then the democrats will give you all you want, only the democrats can defeat the ebil billionaires.

lol why do people keep falling for this old trick over and over? is everyone really just an NPC cattle golem?



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Previous thread: >>2381106

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
https://archive.is/ga3OG
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>>2759069
Should I? I'm a little knew

>>2759069
>>2759069
I'm back now, here's the summary i got for pages 7-8 (Introduction)
>James P. Cannon, national secretary of the Socialists' Worker Party got put onto trial along with 28 other members of the same party and Minneapolis Teamers 558. James P. Cannon (the book's author) argues that America was in World War I & II in order to spread capitalism, despite what American slogans say. He also claims that the attempts to spread capitalism are reactionary (i.e. trying to control the masses). He says that Marxists are to help the oppressed of capitalism in these attempts of subversion. He adds that soldiers should be given all the rights of a basic citizen.

How do I convince stalinists that trotskyism is the superior ideology?

Can religion and communism be compatible? Can a Muslim, a Buddhist, or anyone else be communist?

>>2759234
Depends on the religion, but most religions come with laws included already that can't be replaced, like the Sharia in Islam.



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2759138
>The ZOG isn't real
>But we must act as if it was
>TEE HEE!

But also…
<Every federal government must swear unconditional limitless support for Israel
<And also, they must swear to do it for literally no reason
<Thinking otherwise is antisemitic
These motherfuckers would sooner accept the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" into historical record, than mention the petrodollar.


Free Clavicular
Free Luigi
Free Houdini

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how embarrassing

>>2759335
He is right that Stav is closer to a Joe Rogan type because he's not doing politics all the time. Calling Hasan a public intellectual though lmao

>>2758877
Stalin subordinated the Comintern to soviet national interests. Khruschev was actually more of an internationalist relative to Stalin.



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>treatler this, treatler that

Marx says it is unrealistic to expect workers in developed societies to live like workers in the least developed societies:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ch06.htm
<An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.

Marx denounces "crude communism" based on "envy" which seeks leveling down the standard of living and a total equality of wages rather than abolition of the wages system:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/epm/3rd.htm
<The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the entire world of culture and civilization, and the return to the unnatural simplicity of the poor, unrefined man who has no needs and who has not yet even reached the stage of private property, let along gone beyond it.

<(For crude communism) the community is simply a community of labor and equality of wages, which are paid out by the communal capital, the community as universal capitalist. Both sides of the relation are raised to an unimaginary universality – labor as the condition in which everyone is placed and capital as the acknowledged universality and power of the community.


Marx poinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2757858
Simulacra and Simulation

>>2755582
Stop using the CPUSA logo; we know it's you ChagosAnon.

>>2758260
didn't reply "on his behalf" just answered your stupid pro anti-intellectualism statement about intellectuals being the architects of imperialist wars. Yes I do blame people for being anti intellectual even though I'm not the original anon you asked that question to. It was a stupid fucking question and being anti-intellectual is not the solution to imperialism because revolutionary practice requires revolutionary theory, and revolutionary theory requires revolutionary intellectuals: a vanguard. Like god damn, imperialism is part of capitalism, it's not like capitalism would be without imperialism if all the ruling class were dumbasses (which most of them are). Anti-intellectualism is actually a huge force for reactionary defense of the ruling class. You really are so fucking desperate to avoid the subject of conversation you almost made me forget it by making this side tangent about whether I was the same anon you asked the profoundly stupid fucking question to. Also I was replying to many people at once not just you.

But even if I was the other anon you accused me of being, what would it fucking matter? Literally nothing about the correctness or incorrectness of what I said hinges on that. For what it's worth I agree with the other anon even though I am not him, which is why I answered """on his behalf"""

>>2758286
Chagos and WrongSchizo are two different anons with two different post styles

>>2759261
The "both sides" you're talking about >>2755648 is just demonstrating that cherry picking quotes can go both ways.
You used the word "intellectual" about 100 times but you're too retarded to understand what anonymity is and completely misunderstood the point of that post anyway.

>making this side tangent about whether I was the same anon

<notice how it says (You) next to the name when it's my post? and doesn't when it isn't?
<in fact you don't even seem to have noticed that the anon you are confusing me with has a flag on. picrelated. you can see the lack of (You) next to "Anonymous" on his post
Sigh, just join Reddit, it has identity, indented replies and it keeps a log of all your posts. You'll be a lot less confused and angry there.



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AMERICANS ARE LITERALLY SUB-ANIMAL UNTIL THEY PROVE OTHERWISE. THEY SPEND DECADES, COUPING, BOMBING, SANCTIONING, EMBARGOING, TORTURING, KIDNAPPING, RAPING, MURDERING, STEALING, POISONING, EVERYONE EVERYWHERE AND EXPECT SYMPATHY FOR THEIR """"CLASS"""" STRUGGLE TO GET A 401K OFF THE BACKS OF THIRD WORLDERS WHO FEED THEM. THEY ARE PARASITES. SUBHUMAN ISN'T DEMEANING ENOUGH. A DOG IS SUBHUMAN BUT I LIKE A DOG. I PET A DOG. A DOG IS LOYAL. AN AMERICAN IS SUB-ANIMAL. SUB-MICROBE. FUCK AMERICANS. FUCK AMERICANS. FUCK AMERICANS. I HATE AMERICANS SO MUCH IT'S FUCKING UNREAL. ALL 340 MILLION OF THEM ARE BOURGEOIS, PETTY BOURGEOIS, LUMPEN. IF A SINGLE ONE IS PROLETARIAN, HE IS A CLASS TRAITOR. DEATH TO THE SHITYANKS AND ALL THE LAND THEY OCCUPY. THAT INCLUDES THEIR 51ST STATE ISRAEL.

I HATE ESPECIALLY HOW SHITYANKS GET SENSITIVE AND OFFENDED AND MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM AND TRY TO PRETEND THEY'RE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES INSTEAD OF JUST DOUBLING DOWN WHEN CONFRONTED. COMMIT TO THE BIT SHITYANK. DON'T TRY TO REDEEM YOURSELF NOW. THIS ISN'T A FUCKING CHRISTMAS CAROL. YOU'RE NOT SCROOGE. YOU DON'T GET TO BECOME THE GOOD GUY AT THE FINAL STRETCH. IT'S FUCKING OVER. JUST ADMIT WHAT YOU ARE AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. AND NO DON'T HIDE BEHIND YOUR KIDS WHO YOU WERE GOING TO INDOCTRINATE TO BE BLOODTHIRSTY MONSTERS JUST LIKE YOU.
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Lmao good job OP, you made all the epstein drones come out of the woodwork.

>>2759379
We clown the whole history of your country a thousand times over.

>>2759380
le epic rape country bombe your children

absolute trvthnvke to end all other trvthnvkes
Americans have started 0 socialist revolutions.
Americans have stopped 0 imperialist wars launched by their government.
But every individual American has 7 or more critiques about how every other country on the planet "should" run their own society.

I agree w this aside deom the blood and soil part at the end



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Cuba is currently facing one of its worst energy crisies in its history, entirely caused by the US goverment further tighting sanctions on Cuba, and with the recent overthow of the Venezuelan goverment now Cuba has lost its most valuable trade partner.
There is a deficit over 2,000 MW, so its supply isn't even coming close to its demand.

Local transportation, services, and obviously healthcare is being restricted. And considering Cuba does more for the global south in heathcare then literally any western country, it tells you how much this really effects the world, not just the nation itself. As of writting this thread Russia is sending a humanitarian ship to Cuba, do we think the US is gonna stop the ship?

So i must ask, what can we do indiviually to help Cuba?
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>>2758535
The USA economically is forced into constant foreign wars, it is a imperialist power, even Trump who was larping as a "isolatist" realized that American capital can only dominate through the means of war.
Its not the politicians, its the system of capitalism that forces them into war.

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posting Cuban rationing notebooks

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>>2759388
and also Revolution Continuation Committee documents

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>>2759390
Cuba in the cold war seems COMFY for Autistic people like I, frankly.
coherent monolithic worldview, organization, bureocracy, paperwork…



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Since the nixon shock (1971) and petrodollar deal with the saudis (1974) if you need oil, and every country on earth does, you need dollars first, which means every country has to maintain dollar reserves, which means demand for dollars is structurally guaranteed not by gold or treaty, but by energy. You can't buy energy without dollars. You can't run your economy without dollars. The US has made itself the global tollbooth. The US gets to print dollars, spend them on goods (for treatlers), military (for defending treatlerism), debt (to actual workers), export them to the non-burger world (as inflation), and the world is forced to absorb them, because the alternative (not having energy) is worse. It's a global tax that every other country pays to the US treatler reich. There are two camps: Capital and Labor. This is Capital vs. Labor, but on a planetary scale. The US is capital. It made everyone else labor. Iran is destroying that. Praise Iran. Thank Iran.

Prices of oil are global. If oil prices stabilize (because of trading in Chinese Yuan) then also the petrodollar stabilizes. If the great mullahs had read Marx, they'd know, that for them to win against Ami, they have to collapse global capitalism. They, of course, will not do that, being that they are Kantian idealists, ideologically speaking.

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>>2759325
The Kantian Republic of Iran

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So, during the Cold War in Quebec was founded the Front de liberation du Quebec, apparently a marxist movement who did 300 bomb attacks and 2 kidnapping. No idea what to think honestly
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>>2710120
Looked that up. Apparently thr biggest representatives were in France and like many anti-authoritarian and anti-soviet tendencies post-68 they got absorbed into neoliberalism because it promoted the whole promoted flexibility, self-management, " your own boss" crap.

>>2679277
This is a very disingenuous analysis and if anything just demonstrates your total lack of understanding of French Canadian history. Like, since Quebec historically has had some notable prime ministers, and in 2026 is wealthier than they were in the past therefore… the entire history of Quebec nationalism is totally baseless?

You are intentionally ignoring the very long and well documented history of intense and brutal colonialism that French Canadiens endured at the hands of the British. A great example of this history is The City Below The Hill by Herbert Brown Ames, a pretty widely known piece of Montreal history in the 1890’s. French Canadiens (along with the Irish, black, any many other groups) were effectively proletarianized and served for centuries as the Anglo colonial class’ labour base, enduring horrible living conditions - infant mortality for French Canadiens in the city was 1 in 3, French Canadien life expectancy was about 25 years while the English average around 50. They were, for most of their history, forced to live in wildly overcrowded English-owned slums with some of the highest tuberculosis rates in the industrial world. They were basically cannon fodder for the British colonial project in North America well into the 20th century. While French Canadiens obviously came to North America as settlers themselves, they were quickly subjugated to serve the interests of the British ruling colonial class.

It’s ironic that you write off the 20th century separatist movement as just the opinions of a petit bourgeois class and yet, you also say that Quebec’s grievances are irrelevant because a few very wealthy French speaking Quebecers of the ruling bourgeois class happened to either serve as PM or in government roles, and so that apparently disqualifies the exploitation and hardships of millions of regular working class French Canadiens throughout their history, none of whom obviously ever got to serve as a wealthy politician. I am not going to pretend like Quebec is the most oppressed community in the world or something. As you mention, there have been major reforms since the 70’s that have lead to them achieving economic and social parity for the most part with Anglo Canadians. But to look at their struggle through this ahistorical lens and just say shit like, “well, they’re allowed to speak their language now so wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2758780
>You are intentionally ignoring the very long and well documented history of intense and brutal colonialism that French Canadiens endured at the hands of the British
No, I acknowledged that there were legitimate grievances in the past, however today there is no basis to regard Quebec as an oppressed nation within Canada.
>and so that apparently disqualifies the exploitation and hardships of millions of regular working class French Canadiens throughout their history, none of whom obviously ever got to serve as a wealthy politician
It doesn't disqualify them, but it doesn't mean that these have a national or colonial character. The point is to illustrate that French Canadians have not been significantly locked out of the highest echelons of Canada's political system due to their nationality. Their position isn't comparable to say, Indigenous people who had absolutely zero say in anything, no recognition of their cultural rights, and were not even recognized as full citizens until very recently. Of course the fact that two Quebecois wrote our constitution is of little comfort to working class French Canadians, but that's a class issue. It's not of any comfort to working class Canadians of any kind.
>why a formerly oppressed and proletarianized group of people may have a political desire for self-determination
I understand why they had a desire for self determination, I'm just telling you why I think those desires, or at least separatism as a means of achieving them, were misplaced. The fact that you acknowledge that they were formerly oppressed (i.e. are not currently oppressed) means that any oppression they faced was not of a genuinely colonial or imperialist nature. If it was then it would not be possible to resolve these issues within a capitalist-imperialist framework. This is why I made the comparison to Scotland. The Scots had plenty of legitimate grievances against the English, but these never rose to the level of making them an oppressed nation in the Leninist sense.

so much of this site is just guys discovering shit on wikipedia for the first time. read a book

Quebec nationalists can claim to be socialist all they want, they dont believe in it. They are franco supremacists.



 

Zohran Mamdani sent in feds to protect Palestinian-American activist Nerdeen Kiswani from an alleged targeted assassination plot.

The FBI noted the activist on Thursday night that multiple arrests had been made in an imminent attack on her life. The suspect was later revealed to have been a member of the Jewish Defense League, a Zionist Jewish supremacist organization with a history of anti-Arab terrorism.

The plot was disrupted by the NYPD and FBI, which conducted a search in Hoboken, NJ Thursday night and made at least one arrest in connection with the plot on her life.

We are now confirmed to be in an American Years of Lead. Tell Caleb Maupin to interview Nerdeen.
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>>2758219

the white first world leftist who has never lost a comrade to the state, never risked his own skin in any struggle that couldn’t be Instagrammed, now wants to flee to China, not to join anything, but to live a normal life, to opt out of the gang war he was never in. He wants the safety that colonized peoples built with their blood, but he wants it as a vacation, not as a commitment. He wants the shelter of a nation that had to fight for its survival, and he wants it without ever having risked being buried in the same fight that the Chinese people fought when their time came, with no question. Pure tourism with a political alibi. You don't get to inherit the liberation struggle you spent your whole life watching from the bleachers.

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I have reason to believe that individuals connected to the Jewish Defense League (JDL) have been surveilling me, and this goes beyond mere suspicion. I also suspect there have been attempts on my life using methods designed to appear accidental or untraceable. My cat died suddenly after a seizure; a subsequent test came back positive for arsenic. I also fell pretty ill around the same time-frame, a month earlier, and felt the same sensation as "alcohol poisoning" in my body.

Beyond that, there is a man I cannot seem to escape. He appears aggressively in different neighborhoods, often when I have my smartphone on me. The way he moves, the way he stares, it feels as though he is testing how easily he could walk up to me at close range and end my life. I have a reference point for this, sadly, many years ago, as a teenager, I witnessed someone walk up on a friend in an attempted murder. The shooter’s mannerisms and body language in that moment became a template in my mind for what a person looks like in the seconds before they try to kill a target. The man I keep encountering moves with that same quality, and demeanor, I swear, and he is always on a bluetooth. I noticed when I leave my smart phone in a safe location, that he doesn't pop up; and when he did it was just one time, and it almost looked as if he was confused (IE, looking for something), which wasn't his normal expression. This makes me believe my phone is giving my location away, and someone is dropping him off on foot.

What unsettles me most is the uncertainty. I cannot tell whether this is simply street‑learned awareness, the hard‑won ability to read dangerous people, or whether it is something else, a trauma response triggered by that event I never fully processed as a kid. Either way, the feeling will not leave my mind.

From what I can gather, this man appears to be an outside operator, possibly an addict, but connected to organized crime at a cartel or mafia level (I have evidence of that connection), not some random street criminal.

I cannot prove any of this, so I have not accepted it as reality, but the feeling persists. If anyone has information on this topic beyond what has already been shared in this thread, particularly anything that might prove useful, I would appreciate it.

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>>2759307

Four months before my cat died, I was nearly run off the highway at 2 a.m. while riding my motorcycle. A box truck with dark, illegally tinted windows swerved directly into my lane, forcing me onto the shoulder at highway speed. There was no other traffic. It was deliberate. Around that same period, I began receiving threatening text messages, just emojis, no words from numbers that, when called immediately after they were received, did not exist. They were untraceable. I sincerely believe the JDL is working with other far right, racist American organizations as well, because I've experienced these same tactics down south, from white supremacists and their police.

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>>2759313

It was only after my cat died, and the motorcycle close call incident that the man began showing up. This timing makes me wonder, did they decide to give up on “clean” methods? Perhaps when the subtler attempts failed to end things, they shifted to overt surveillance and intimidation. I have since changed my patterns, I move frequently, and I no longer accept food delivery, because I cannot trust what might be added to it. I experienced all of this while staying in Newark, NJ, which isn't that far from the topic of OP, in fact only 8 miles down the road.

>>2758876
She did not "save the savior" of Palestine. She IS THE SAVIOR of Palestine!!
>The past is past. To see real heroes, look around you. – Chairman Mao Zedong



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