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/PRC/ People's Republic of China 18
>Pet The Donkey Edition
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>>2576257
>y-you are just cheap!
Lol, lmao even. If this was the case, why are Euro automakers suffer financially and downsize? Doesn't sound like a lot of added value to me

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>>2576265
that's why in recent negotations, eu wants tech transfer from china. for instance, the battery is the most important part of an EV and china leads in that tech

>>2576274
Yeah, not gonna work. China was an outsource destination FOR ALL kinds of labor for the West, Chinese had come to Westoids and offered to produce everything bottom to top at a fraction of price, and only required technology to do so, so Westoids had obviously obliged - for profit. Why would China give them technology when Europe is merely a consumer market? What, do Europoors expect China to outsource labour to Europe, for this to be a win-win trade?

Just how the bourgeoisie truly act by the logic of their markets rather than the moral idealism they believe to uphold, the Chinese will change the financial order and become the new dominant trading power and the bourgeoisie will have no choice but to indirectly help countries that have been embargoed for generations.

>>2576273
If they didn’t have so much prestige from their brand, they wouldn’t just be downsized, they’d be dead with no chance of recovery.


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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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So many words in this thread

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>>2572113
Transitional Government forces opened fire on protesters
In response to the recent violence in Homs, shots were fired at people who took to the streets in the cities of Homs and Latakia.

In Latakia, the Alevi community held a protest at the Ziraa Junction in response to recent violence and attacks in Homs. However, a group of youths attacked the protesters with stones, who were then shot at, injuring some.

A similar situation occurred in Homs. A group attacked protesters with clubs and knives. During the demonstration, some were injured, and people were fired upon directly.

Following the shooting of demonstrators, military mobilization of government forces is taking place in all cities and districts under the control of the Transitional Government.
>>2572389
>So many words in this thread
READ THEM!

>>2572113
>>2572113
oh well, welcome to the best Syria

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>NEW: Multiple unidentified drones have struck the Khor Mor gas field in Sulaymaniyah, Iraq, the second attack on the site in less than a week.

>• Local sources report casualties and say at least three drones hit the facility.
>• All operations are now suspended, confirmed by the KRG Ministry of Natural Resources and Energy.
>• Khor Mor is one of the most important energy sites in northern Iraq. It is 70% owned by UAE companies Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum, in partnership with the Kurdistan Regional Government.

>The motivation and the actor behind the strike are still unclear, but repeated attacks on a strategic UAE-KRG energy asset will have major implications for the region’s gas supplies, foreign investment in northern Iraq, and the already fragile security situation in Sulaymaniyah.

>More details as they develop.

Oh boy Israel just raided yet another southern Syrian city.


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Apparently folks are still confused about the purpose of sex education. not on here necessarily but like in general

The first and most important component of sex ed is teaching children
a) How to recognize if an adult is sexually abusing you, and
b) What to do if an adult is sexually abusing you.

Comprehensive sex ed includes other topics, including discussion of what changes your body will go through in puberty and how to have safe sex, but those can and usually do come later.

Sex education needs to start as early as possible, because if kids don't start sex ed until age X, then pedophiles know they can more easily get away with abusing kids who are younger than X.

The people most likely to sexually abuse kids are their parents, which is why we need schools, not parents, to provide sex education.  

You likely can't teach a lesson about sexual abuse to a 1-day-old baby, but you absolutely can teach a 5-year-old.  

When you hear policymakers say "kindergarten is too young to get sex education," what they are really saying is that they want to rape kindergartners and not get caught.
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This thread is fucking retarded and you're all creeps

>>2576238
Why?


>>2575912, I have to admit sometimes its hard to interpret many people who reply in these threads in any other way. Consider:

>>2575642
>>2575809
>>2575871

They legitimately don't see the problem at all. Despite the sentence being explicit:

"And for KIDS WHO ARE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, the research shows that THEY PARTICIPATE IN much safer practices around SEXUAL ACTIVITY."

Now perhaps this not what the original pronouncer of the statement intended to say, though its at least a severe revelatory freudian slip if you ask me, especially if you now insanely depraved and corrupt the field of sexology is. Regardless though, the statement on its own says children participate in sexual activity, and not only does it not mention any of the harms of this, but even going to say that sexual helps make the practices safer!

It reminds me of the time I posted table 34 from the first Kinsey Book (Sexual Behaviour in the Hunan Male) along with his interpretation. People legitimately tried to argue with me that Kinsey was not engaging in apologism for pedophilia.

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>>2576260

Small Correction: Apologism for child sexual abuse.

Pedophilia is a misnomer.

>>2576260
That's still a neutral thing to say: it's unoptimal that they are engaging with it at all, but there's definitely further mistakes that can worsen the situation that proper education can mitigate.
>especially if you now insanely depraved and corrupt the field of sexology is
Vibes based gesturing. I can see how malpractice can arise in the feild but you're wildly speculating over the mere coverage of a worse case scenerio, non-coverage of something that probably wasn't in the scope of the study, and the mere notion that harm can be mitigated in said worse case scenerio.
>/thread
denied, if you're tired then take a break, discussions can continue with or without you.


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Why do people use the industrialization and subsequent rise of the standard of living in Russia and China as proof of the success of socialism when neither countries were and are socialist. Socialism being defined as worker ownership of the means of production, as Marx defined, as opposed to state ownership and in the case of modern China with large parts of the economy privately owned. The success for these two countries is a testament to there size, abundance of resources and people. Germany was afraid of pre-revoultionary Russia and predicted by 1917 they would be no match for its growing might. China before the Second Sino-Japanese war was a lot more industrialized than people usually give it credit for, with most of its industrial base being destroyed by the war. And too give examples of two capitalist countries that being the United States and Germany. Both of them were able to surpass the United Kingdom due there larger access to resources and people. And not to mention the increased development of technology allowing industrializeing nations to catch up faster to their established piers. What allowed these countries to industrialize in the first place is a stable government and there ability to fight off foreign threats, which was not the case for Imperial Russia, Qing China and the ROC.

>Socialism being defined as worker ownership of the means of production, as Marx defined, as opposed to state ownership and in the case of modern China with large parts of the economy privately owned.
Sauce?
<inb4 wikipedia

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I think that Mao the best communist leader of all time because of for the love of his country I bring the rule area in modern area together cultural revolution was based as fuck

I like to read his talks on Marxists.org. He was pretty chill and philosophical. The military strategy aspects of Mao is also kino.


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How can anyone think that Donald Trump is a Christian when all he is a Zionist bootlicker not just that he’s enforce the National Guard deported so many migrants friends with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bombed boats in Venezuela he’s basically a war criminal but apparently he worked at McDonald’s. I’m loving it. That. Fat fuck

Christianity for most people is based aesthetics and not actually following the doctrine, cause if that was true they would all become vagabonds. Also no right winger believes Trump is a Christian they just like his policies.


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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott
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>>2573818
>А.В.Сафронов – историк, экономист, кандидат экономических наук, ведущий канала «Простые числа».
so it seems. historian, economist, kandidat (roughly MSc I think), video (though it almost reads like Veduta's) channel prime numbers. and yeah he's on the Prime Numbers channel

>>2573828

Дикбласт must become ДикВласть. Αμήν.

What the hell did he mean by this? Is he /ourguy/ for real?

The so-called TRULY FREE MARKET

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Continuing with my abstract non-proposal from the last thread. I was thinking about a meta-procedure that combines an auction with something else.

Quoting this critique from myself:
>The fixed prices were introduced to deal with worries about raising prices. But to deal with that, it is enough to have a price ceiling.
What are the worries about raising prices really about though? If somebody snatches a thing right before your eyes, what good does it do to know you could have paid the price? It's better to have a guarantee that you can obtain a thing. So I have come to the conclusion that the part of the proposal that isn't an auction should not be something with a fixed price, nor something with a price ceiling, but simply something without any price. And since I got no idea how to combine the parts in an elegant fashion for now, we just do first the part without any prices and then the auction stuff.

Assume a given pile of classified and quantified resources, ready to be used up in the next period. After the central authority has set the Resource Access Power (RAP) of each pseudo-firm, the pseudo-firms should not yet have to participate in the resource auctions. Instead, the central authority sets aside a part of the pile for the pseudo-firms making requests in kind. The hydraulic diagram from a 2D world describes a situation of just three pseudo-firms. On the left, the blue liquid representing the resource sits in a tank that is closed at the bottom. If we let the resource flow, it will go through the pipe into the three vessels on the right and will reach equal level (and the air will escape from the vessels through the pipes they got on top). These three vessels represent the three pseudo-firms. The width of a pseudo-firm's vessel is proportional to its RAP, so these three are equal in that. The size of a pseudo-firm's request is represented by its vessel's volume (and since the diagram is in a 2D world, area = volume). A pseudo-firm exaggerating its request will make its vessel taller, but not wider.

(Maybe it would have been better to show two pseudo-firms in the diagram, one at half the RAP of the other, but I'm too lazy to edit it. Anyway, you should be able to picture what that would look like.)

Only after this procedure is through do we start with the auction stuff.


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Pics are Bambidbar/Numbers 31:13-18. If you are a christcuck or jew, you by definition believe that the Torah or the Torah fanfic that is the bible is the infallible word of God. These books say that when you take a town, you should kill every single person in them besides the young girls which you take as sex slaves. Why do we let these lunatics in left-wing spaces? Sure, you can make a "progressive" interpretation of these books if you erase enough words, but you can do the same with Mein Kampf. There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
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>>2576194
This is old testament bruh

>>2576208
This is very true. However, such religious groups are much more dependent on corporate donors and do not set their own independent agendas as much. This is part of why decentralized religious faiths can be more blatantly hateful. That being said, there are some big ones like "Plymouth Brethren Christian Church" and "Seventh Day Adventist Church".

Also a few of these groups are secular.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/africa-us-christian-right-50m

IMO the spend on queerphobia more reflects fossil fuel industry interests in diverting attention from climate change as part of a broader global campaign.

Semi-relevant

https://atmos.earth/political-landscapes/fossil-fuel-billionaires-are-bankrolling-the-anti-trans-movement/
https://healthliberationnow.com/2024/12/19/terfs-eco-fascists-and-christo-nationalists-from-deep-green-resistance-to-wolf-partnering-with-the-global-christian-right/

A lot of the eco-fascists like Derrick Jensen are fossil fuel agent provocateurs.

>>2576194
>There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion

Here's Marx on Christianity:


<The social principles of Christianity have now had eighteen hundred years to be developed, and need no further development by Prussian Consistorial Counsellors.

<The social principles of Christianity justified the slavery of antiquity, glorifies the serfdom of the Middle Ages and are capable, in case of need, of defending the oppression of the proletariat, with somewhat doleful grimaces.

<The social principles of Christianity preach the necessity of a ruling and an oppressed class, and for the latter all they have to offer is the pious wish that the former may be charitable.

<The social principles of Christianity place the Consistorial Counsellor’s compensation for all infamies in heaven, and thereby justify the continuation of these infamies on earth.

<The social principles of Christianity declare all the vile acts of the oppressors against the oppressed to be either a just punishment for original sin and other sins, or trials which the Lord, in his infinite wisdom, ordains for the redeemed.
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>>2576194
>muh nazis
>muh religion
Moralism

>>2576194
https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm


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How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?

For the past 10 years, the entire crux of the Democratic Party has been "STOP TRUMP". The average American Democrat or liberal now bases their political views solely on how much they hate Trump, MAGAts, "manosphere" podcasters, so-called "alt-right pipelines", and everything in between. They have no real principles and it shows.

The right-wing, on the other hand, believes it is creating a new world; it's a much worse world, but that's how they want it. This has caused liberals to prop up the old, dying system as a way of preventing it from collapsing into something worse. Now, we're seeing liberals who claim to be "left-wing" embrace everything from free trade agreements (on the basis Trump's tariffs need to be stopped) to hyper-consumerism (on the basis that spending money on fashion and makeup and mindless consumer goods helps maintain your "individuality" against Trump-era conformity) to literal junk food (in order to own RFK and MAHA). It doesn't take much to realize all of these were once things American liberals strongly opposed 20-25 years ago; I'm old enough to remember when "clean girl" no-makeup aesthetics, eating organic, and herbal medicines were leftist things.

American liberals are now pushing a culture of hyper-rationality and order to counter the mass chaos that has erupted in America under Trump. They hate ICE agents terrorizing communities but they hate the sporadic community defence and protests that pop up to beat back ICE even more. They hate the Luigi Mangiones and the Tyler Robinsons and the prospects of an American Years of Lead. They want everything to be "rational" and based on slow progression and linear shit. But this way is outdated. Trying to find the "middle path" doesn't work when capitalism is in a state of collapse. For the liberal, everything that doesn't fit their paradigm is "mysticism" which always equates to "fascism" and needs to be stamped out before it manifests into authoritarianism. But how can this hyper-rationalism win?

The same is true of foreign policy. Liberals insist on American soft power, which arguably won't work in a world post-Gaza where American support for the most documented genocide in recent history was on full display. Trump, on the other hand, is an old school imperialist who simply seizes whatever he demands without caring.

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I don’t think that there will be a strong liberal movement after Trump. The liberal base is practically all just demsocs except for boomers and unless you consider them to also be liberals then it’s pretty much over. Everyone is either a demsoc or a Nazi which is pretty bad because I don’t think that demsocs are the polor opposite of Nazis, I would consider the polor opposite of a demsoc to be an Eisenhower-style conservative and I would consider the polor opposite of Nazis to be Maoists, then again what would a Guevarist like me know? After all we all like to think we are in the center.

>>2526945
If the Dems could recover from the Vietnam debacle (Vietnam was a Dem project for most of America’s involvement) they can recover from the Gaza genocide
What they cannot recover from is their utter inability to improve anyone’s life in any way

>>2526850
>american liberalism after liberalism
Same old. Uniparty will continue to murder both americans and foreign victims of imperialism in the name of capital.

>How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?
Those who aren't ready for socialism, particularly those not directly hit hard by the current repression, might just celebrate the 'victory' of Democrats (assuming they aren't overtly blocked from electoral power) and interpret it as the system working, validating their trust in US institutions, electoralism and the legal system. Honestly, a show-trial of Trump could kill a revolution.

But if socialists GTFO /leftypol/ and actually seize upon these grievances, they can inoculate people from liberalist claims of America working, if/when the Republicans face any roadblocks in the future.

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I used to think that the democrats were a good thing but now I think they crap


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A few reasons why:
1. Its a nice country
2. Nice aesthetic
3. Ok food
4. Its ok
5. Normal life
6. No gendergoblins two genders male and female
7. Lukhashenko souvenirs
8. Its normal
9. Its alright
10. Climate is ok
Bonus:
join communist marxist leninist party of Belarus for fun
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>>2576258
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>>2576266
you didn't disprove anything you retard! How can someone who claims to be a leftist defend someone who is an oligarchic dictator that has done nothing left-wing?

>>2576233
Chicks are always like "hey go kick that guy's ass he was looking at me funny" with guys.

>>2576266
The chad gendergoblin vs the soy Cuckashenko

>>2576258
>No its not, its a Russian puppet state
Actually it's more like Lukashenko wanted it to remain part of the Russian Federation so he could one become leader of the whole federation. He had a falling out with Putin a few years ago but his overtures to the west didn't work or weren't very serious so he sought Putin's protection again hen an attempted color revolution happened in his country. It failed and he's still in power


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