/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2574047
take a knife and cut your little dick off you fucking faggot, you don't deserve to be alive or give others the gift of life, I hope if your dysgenic kind ever somehow manages to breed that your children are diagnosed with terminal cancer and you have to hold their hands as they die

>>2574056
>>2574079
>>2574080
The best thing that can be done is that we just agree to disagree, as this “debate” is clearly spiraling out of control, and I sincerely do not wish to cause anymore contentious disagreements in this thread, and I do understand where you guys are coming from, as it would have been much better if the Jews stayed in Europe and assimilated into the various Nations there, and the Crypto-Zionist Frankenberger did not murder 6 Million Jews so the rest would be forced to flee Europe and go back to Palestine in order to create the Zionist State and come into conflict with and ethnically cleanse the Arab population there, but that is sadly not the World we live in, so I will ask one more question before I leave this thread, what position do you want me to take on this issue, 🤔?

>>2573839
I'm tired of nations

>>2574089
>and go back to Palestine
stfu lmao just because their book says they come from israel (actually it says abraham is from iraq but god told him to move over) doesnt mean theyre from there thats like claiming an indonesian muslim has a promised spot of land in mekkah because hes muslim not matter what your magical book says a pole stays a pole and belarussian stays a belarussian, are you jewish? you act jewish.

>>2574128
Only Liberal Idealist Anarchists and Fascists oppose the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2574203
I hate to break it to you, but Primary Sources, Archeological evidence, and Population Genetics all confirm that Jews are a Canaanite Semitic ethnic group that lived in Israel/Palestine/Judea/Canaan before the Romans expelled them in the Genocidal Roman-Jewish Wars in the 1st/2nd Century AD, with the second Autosomal DNA Ancestry Component Chart I posted showing that Ashkenazi Jews are 53% Roman Middle Eastern/Semitic, 33% Italic, and 14% Germanic, so they clearly are partially indigenous to the Levant, and the Palestinian Arabs are also indigenous due to the fact that they descend from a mixture of the populations that have been present in the region since the Jewish expulsion, including Arab Muslim tribes that invaded in the 7th Century AD, Arab Christian tribes like the Ghassanids that arrived in the 3rd Century AD, Jews that remained after the expulsion and slowly converted to Christianity and eventually Islam, and other Semitic groups like the Phoenicians and Arameans, thus proving that the only fair and just solution to this conflict is a Two-State Solution on the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land Swaps as described in my post at >>2573839 , which is supported by the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2574501
I was gonna say, saying shit like
> According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west

Is why people *actually* can't stand third worldists. Third Worldists constantly strawman criticisms of their position in bad-faith, where anyone who disagrees with them is assumed to be on the same page as a racist or pro-imperialist and therefore must be killed by JDPON, and then pull a motte-and-bailey fallacy where they claim they're not actually saying that.

And here's the thing - christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.

>>2574505
> christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.
I mean both groups unironically believe in picrel and all the racial essentialism that comes with it, the only difference is who they think the intrinsically noble civilization is

>>2557921
OP, the reason you people get criticized isn't for opposing imperialist governments, it's for picking fights with comrades in the core constantly while strawmanning their criticisms of your position.

No, leftists in the core who think you're wrong aren't "Being mad that you want to take their treats away," they think your analyses regarding the labor aristocracy and the reasons revolution hasn't happened yet are wrong, because they fly in the face of their own experiences.

>>2574512
This needs to be stickied. The perfect rebuttal

>>2574513
third-worldists treat their theory the way bourgeois economists treat orthodox economics - if the facts don't fit their theory, then it's assumed that reality is in error, not the theory!

>>2574311
>No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party.
Tell me why. Explain it like you would to a child.

>>2574311
>most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.
it might emerge that way, but parties can become revisionist and/or self destructive, like the CPSU did. Did the class "need" the CPSU to dissolve the USSR?

Communism is a mode of production

The rest of your post is vauge in purpose and irrelevant to the starting topic.

>>2530843
<What do we do about immigration?
Damage control. Multiculturalism has been achieved now we need time for integration.

>>2574095
> okay, so why should i talk to you if you dont believe in democracy (rule of the people) on a supposedly left-wing board?
<le people
You’re a fuckin retard, communists aren’t trying to constantly litigate the French Revolution again and again
> is it possible to raise the minimum wage to $1,000,000 an hour? if not, why not?
Because this would destroy a currency, and has nothing to do with the communist project fascist retard
> okay, so again, you are forcing the ultimatum that one must either unconditionally support mass immigration or they are hitler.
Nta but yes, 100%, you have no other argument than fear of the stinky poopoo people and child-like attachment to a “culture” that was invented by americans in the 50s during the Marshall Plan
> does marx say that mass immigration lowers the economic and moral condition of the native working class? yes or no?
Does Marx call Lasalle a Jewish nigger yes or no?
> because youre a coward who both feigns ignorance but also have an implicit dogma. is mass immigration good or bad?
You’re a coward that wants the bourgeois state to slaughter the stinky poopoo people for you, along with the communists, all because you’re too much of a racist cunt to organize with the brown man

Immigration won’t be a problem if the global south stops being exploited

>>2574162
>I mean, this just btfo's your entire fucking point and proves mine.
>Thanks for that.
Bruh, what are you talking about? Do you even know what I'm saying here? SNP X + Z doesn't do the same thing, because SNP Y + Z does do the exact same thing you idiot. SNPs aren't genes, they are variations in the code that operate in conjunction with other SNPs. In practical terms, person A and person B are still exactly the same, but the extremely small minutiae of how things end up the same can be marginally different.

>>2574488 (me)
Also, good on you for ignoring literally every point I made to try and hone in on one part that doesn't even refute what I'm saying. Proves even more you don't know wtf you are talking about, and that you pulled all this from one post.

there's degrees of fucked. if you're first worlder you'll be fucked but not so fucked. third worlders are the most fucked. they'll go through hell on earth, famine, warlordism, barbarism

I know my grandkids won't learn how to read in 50 years.

>>2574083
learning pi to 200 places is mad impressive. people go to the club to party with their mates, despo single guys aren't just gross on the inside they're embarrassing to be around. being your authentic self is way better for getting wifey: even if it sounds naff to shallow boring narcicists.

Climate change is overrated and you sound like a cultist crying that le End is Le Nigh, uygha.

>>2567053
So the alignment people are worried AI is gonna slaughter us like the Terminator? That's fun. I'd be more worried that humans will become dependent on them to manage complex systems and we couldn't survive if we turned it off, like electricity. You see this in embryo with people who are addicted to LLMs. Imagine when they actually get good and run the economy. The point of socialism is for people to control the products made by their own hands, not the other way around.

r/socialism is having a meltdown over being invaded by ACP. I hate socdem on socdem violence. Mirrors leftypol tbf.

>entire threads worshipping fascism up for 12 straight hours with zero actual videogame discussion in them on the videogame board on the other site with just a Wolfenstein picture in the OP to justify itself
>jannies do nothing
/vpol/ and twitter are just a flat circle Venn diagram at this point, reactionary propaganda machines

>>2574399
it's haz
so it's stalinist magacom vs socdem violence

>>2574410
I'd wager /v/ is more botted than /pol/ at this point.

>>2574428
I feel like I’ve noticed an uptick of /v/ posters finally sick of the endless /pol/ wignat posting so I feel a slim hope.

>>2573158
>Dalits
>Animal Waste Removers
I thought Indians loved that shit (pun intended)

>>2573109
why did indo-euroeans create racial caste systems twice (in india and latin america) when mixing with non-indo-europeans?

I clicked on this thread because I thought the OP pic was a logic puzzle. It's not a logic puzzle, so I have zero remaining interest in this thread.

>>2574194
You wouldn't have solved it anyway, pussy

>>2572542
French companies were and are in Nigeria

>>2574264
ackshually that's no longer the sahel

What's happening in Guinea boys.

military officers in control of country

>>2574325
what do they want

wake me up when they test an algorithmic intelligence on a hypothetical planned economy

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>>2574201
>You would have all of Marxist theory on your phone.
marxists.org has existed since the 1990s

I don't know how trustworthy polling is, I'm assuming fuck all in general, and with a sample size of ~1000 volunteers then probably less. But it rlly maeks u thunk
>young responders - one in four poll for greens party
>old responders - one in six poll for one nation, with one recent poll claiming one in four

What I'm saying is, it sure would be nice if a whole bunch of old people carked it soon.

>>2568027
aussie unions need a bit of a bashing. they've been toothless since the accord.

police control the pitch and tenor of any demonstration. if they wanted peace they could have petitioned to shut down the fascist march like they did the palestine ones but they welcomed them.

Who's excited for more pauline kino?

>>2574299
>it's real
society of the spectacle