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There is power in Marxism that you cannot find in other systems of ideas. Marxism is a totality; if you’re a committed Marxist, you can’t pick and choose where to apply it. You cannot have a bit of Marxism for breakfast and a bit of liberalism for lunch. Choosing to be a Marxist means examining every facet of the social world through a rigid system that rejects esotericism, magic, or religious thinking.

But when you step outside your Marxist bubble, you realize: people are fucking idiots. Not "idiots" meaning "stupid," but ἰδιώτης (idiotes), an Ancient Greek term for a private person indifferent to politics or public life. Most people refuse to see the connection between politics and their daily existence. They prioritize a "good" private life: a stable job, a wife who cooks and cleans, 1.8 children, maybe a dog, a home, and holidays twice a year (sorry, Americans, this is Europe). Young Marx (or Engels, I can't remember) once called this an "animal’s life": unreflective, driven by instincts the bourgeoisie instilled in workers. Tragically, this remains true 150 years later. The separation of private and public life poisons any cohesive society.

As capitalism’s crises deepen, bourgeois propaganda (mass media, PR) aggressively pushes unscientific, esoteric, and religious ideas. I told my family I’m a materialis - not chasing money, just rejecting spirits - and they got sad for me. Like I’m some empty husk because I don’t "feel" ghosts. It’s even more exhausting to explain that most "personal" thoughts aren’t original. Humans rarely have new ideas; we recycle old ones. Yet people resent being asked to examine their beliefs. They deny that their desires are manufactured by mass media, or that history predates them. Many cling to a nonexistent sentimental past or an idealized future. I’ve developed profound hatred for the state, family, private property, and religion. My mother understands my critiques of the state, religion, and property, but family is sacred to her. Explaining its evolution as a social structure is pointless. This mental block leads to a common schema: individual → family → nation. You see this everywhere. ("States are cities; cities are families.") Most people can’t grasp their own historicity.

This is why meaningful mass political action is nearly impossible today. As a Marxist, you must constantly fight: first, to stay sharp and avoid sinking into the swamp of bourgeois society; second, to drive change against bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2421840
ok fair I'll stop giving you a hard time

bump

if you end up being this ascetic and misanthropic its time to reconsider your beliefs

>>2421696
This is why revolutions in the 1st world are so important.

Ignorance, conformism and magical thinking aside, one thing that pisses me off is how everywhere in mass media, social interactions and the normie Internet you can see the death of nuance in real time. Every online argument is like watching two toddlers going "nuh huh" defending their dumbfuck either-or takes and you can sense how unwilling people are to engage with complex ideas or criticism, or even to show a minimum of empathy for others, particularly strangers. It's the consequence of a decades-old, multi-front attack on the fundamental cognitive mechanisms that allow people to independently form thoughts, led by instant gratification algorithms that favor short-form content. There's also a constant push by propagandists and politicians to normalize this sort of either-or logic and non-sequiturs in everyday talk: "oh you don't support sending one gorillion dollars to israel so they can decimate the remaining children? you must be a hamas terrorist who hates america"

This is gonna sound pretentious as fuck but I'm glad my irl friend group has meaningful discussions on the most random ass topics like life and relationships, entertainment, national politics, markets, tech and science. Guess studying mathematics and going to grad school led me to meet a ton of interesting people, who maybe aren't Marxists nor have a grasp on dialectical materialism (some do) but definitely are halfway there by rejecting bullshit and embracing critical reasoning and dialogue as an approach to life. Most of said friends are autistic as fuck in a good way and have some kind of science background, others are artists or in med school and so on. There's a reason why Marxist thinkers have always insisted it's a scientific approach to history, and why a bunch of people in the "hard" sciences leaned left in the 20th century, according to some accounts (I think Paul Cockshott made a point about this once, also think e.g. Einstein's writings about lib-ish socialism or whatever)

It's easy to doomerpost about porky going "gaza but with nuclear weapons and clankers with guns" on the entirety of humanity if global revolution were to happen, or about not ever getting there because people don't care and if they do they have no hope, but I have hope that resistance networks can be built. It starts with cultivating the connections you have right now, checking on your friends and family, loving and caring for them, talking about current topics they care about bringing your mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Overwhelmingly majority of right-wingers are hetero males, a demography consisting mostly of sociopaths to a degree, reactionarism is politized sociopathy

You just connect the dots

Absolute majority of hetero males are apathetic, sadistic, sociopathic, hateful creatures

personally i think its the hormones

>>2423003
>idpol but not with race but even more retarded concept of cis males being le evil
Dont you have other social media to post this crap?

Gender idpol is still idpol. I know lots of women who are fucking scumbags and 200% hardcore capitalist even though they vote dem. Voting dem/rep is not an accurate signifier for left/right but ameritards keep pretending it is. Hillary Cinton is not morally superior.

>Absolute majority of hetero males are apathetic, sadistic, sociopathic, hateful creatures
touch grass, hon.

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>>2423129
>People only get involved in politics because they're insecure
The bourgeoisie are not only involved in politics but control it, not out of insecurity, but to maintain their security.

>>2421595
I often think about how Emmet Till was lynched for (allegedly) whistling at a white woman days after doing it.

>>2421452
>active shooter slaughtering children at Uvalde elementary
<dozens of police in body armor with rifles stand around doing nothing
>Arab man randomly accused of thought crimes
<rush in, slam him and give him a heart attack

fuck this planet lol

>>2421452
>"I'm tourist, this not good."
<"YEAH IT'S NOT GOOD THAT'S RIGHT!!!!!"
love the guilty until proven innocent mindset of the knuckle dragging pig

>>2423127
i posted a joke about how the HOUDINI party is recruiting and 3 people messaged me if I was starting a party and if they could join. Really caught me off guard.

An anon here donated $100 to me and I got $80 of that after fees. That's clutch. Makes me want to keep grinding at this. People, comrades, believe in it.

We struggle. We grind. We're all gonna make it.



 

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>>2423052
Abridged version: 14:1 K/D ratio in favour of Ukraine! Do not panic!

>>2423057
>annex Belarus
Any second now NATObros

>>2423057
Even the IMF says there around 6-7 million people in New Russia, retard

IMMINENT BREAKTHROUGH




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Reminder that migration is not driven by absolute wage disparities between nations; rather, it is a consequence of global capitalism's tendency to produce and maintain unequal productivity structures across countries. These structural differentials more than wage gaps themselves underlie capital's demand for mobile labor. Immigration functions as one among several strategic instruments, including outsourcing, technological innovation and labor market flexibilization, that capital employs to regulate labor supply in response to rising unit labor costs.

Global wage convergence doesn't occur because labor remains largely immobile, institutionally segmented and subject to political controls, whereas capital is highly mobile and operates according to the imperatives of competitive profit maximization. Therefore, framing immigration as a binary choice between accepting migrants or reducing domestic wages misrepresents the dynamics of the system.

Capitalism neither pursues nor facilitates global wage equalization rather it utilizes labor migration as a means to restore and maintain profitability under conditions of real competition, but so many radlibs are never gonna get it because they're stuck on that broken Unequal Exchange logic. They unironically reduce competition between bourgeois nation-states to "poor countries are getting robbed".
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>>2421168
>Are 4 and a half continents supposed to just relentlessly siphon off tens of millions of Nigerians each year or what?
Yes? Are you dumb?

>>2421182
tax on childlessness

>Stirner reaction pic
<immigration not as a consequence of social relations under a capitalist mode of production but as a conscious "tool"

sure i agree but i still think immigration is fine

>>2421182
What happened in India and Mexico?

Malaysia?

Iran?

Brazil?

Why no babies?



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Are right wingers genuinely stupid or just selfish? I know it's a massive generalization (and maybe ironic because of that) but I'm just dumbfounded. It's like they either know they're lying or too stupid to either understand cause and effect, or just struggle with empathy.
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>>2387549
By your logic whatever North Africans do is just retaliation for the Spanish colonial outposts in the canaries and even in Morocco proper

>>2333844
Depends on what kind of right-wingers you mean. The young highly online alt-right is largely people who just genuinely lack empathy and are fueled by anger. The more rational and intelligent right-wingers, on the other hand, are often people who correctly perceive that the left has a problem with pathological empathy, misunderstanding complex situations, and knee-jerk emotional desire to support supposed "rebels against the oppressors" no matter whether those "rebels" are actually righteous or not: an example is how many left-wingers support BLM even though reducing policing of black neighborhoods actually results in more black people dying from the lack of policing than were dying because of policing.

>>2337551
"Also just for genetic diversity between human ethnicites, would result at minimum, 12 different species, if we applied that distance, to any other animal. " is bullshit. After all, dogs have vastly more variation than humans and are considered to be one species. Not like species are well-defined, anyway.

That said, there are indeed many good arguments in favor of the idea that human genetic groups differ in things like intelligence and culture in part for genetic reasons, not just because of nurture. Leftists who reflexively lash out against this concept instead of engaging with it intellectually, by doing so, just cede ground to people who are willing to talk about the concept.


>stupidity
studies show that leftists on average achieve higher I.Q. scores than rightists, but being intelligent isnt everything; for example, more intelligent people tend to be more conformist (or "oversocialised") and have higher likelihood of mental illness. this is why mental illness is also higher on the left than the right.
>selfishness
everyone is selfish. although, studies show how leftists are generally more concerned with abstract concerns rather than immediate relations. a rightist values their family over society, while it is typically opposite for a leftist.
>>2423016
i was thinking yesterday about the issue of race, and i wonder if you will agree with me? the reason why "white people have no culture" while others do is because the discourse occupies the gaze of whiteness (similarly internalised by POC), where in existentialism and psychoanalysis, the subject externalises phenomena as objects (and why "hell is other people", since in the other's gaze, we are objectified). the subject makes objects, but in itself, is empty of content. so the subject can attribute qualities to the other, but it cannot do so of itself. when a western POC says that "white people have no culture" therefore, it is because they are expressing their own alienation as a western subject, but mistake it for a lacking white objectivity, rather than subjectivity - whiteness in this sense is the place of universality, since only "white people" are able to escape "culture", while others are forced to be enculturated. this is why a metropolis is "cultureless" (an anti-place), since it expresses a public universality (we lose "culture" when we become authentic - which is why a POC can "act white" when they perform their own alienation). the denial of one's objectivity then grants them subjectivity, and which further allows them either to dominate others, or to criticise themselves. in vidrel for example, see how the irishman denies the ritual of heritage, while the other embraces what is lost to him. the irishman is a subject, who is objectified by the insistence upon culture.



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The real subsumption of labor is an important element of class conflict to analyze. The design of the means of production is an important way in which the bourgeoisie maintain power. But I am unsure of how the working class may fight the professional strata who design the means of production.

It seems to me that the professional strata only profits from a share of temporary super-profits due to innovation. If the workers want to fuck with the scientists then they must fight the intellectual monopoly rents the techs make their money from. It seems to me that rather than smashing mills the Luddites should have leaked the mill designs and trade secrets to their employer's competitors.
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>>2387107
>It seems to me that rather than smashing mills the Luddites should have leaked the mill designs and trade secrets to their employer's competitors.
sure, in the sense that this speeds up the spread of a technology and therefore speeds up historical development. It is an accelerationist approach, but…
>monopoly
is actually the endpoint of capitalist development. competition has winners. Either the govt. steps in to "trust bust" like Teddy Roosevelt, which just resets the clock on capitalist competition, or the monopoly gets nationalized, which Lenin says is the prerequisite social condition for socialist revolution in the imperial core, and he pointed to Weimar Germany as the example of that. You want the workers to smash the bourgeois state and seize the nationalized monpolies for themselves, not revert to some kind of primitive competition and decentralization that is anathema to a planned society.

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>>2388774
it really isn't and also I've seen longer titles

>The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself.

>>2388926
Yes, I'm an accelerationist. I'm very inspired by the Free Software movement. I want to do stuff like piracy and free software in order to drive the small businesses out of business. It's the same reason I support labor unions which put small businesses out of business as well which can't tolerate labor strikes. Also because labor bargaining forces corporations to innovate and so drives the rate of profit down.

>>2388786
I want to accelerate the proletarianization of the professional strata by attacking the intellectual monopoly rents you fuckwit. Also, read Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital". I want to intensify competition within the professional strata and accelerate monopoly capital.




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The more i read about him the more retarded he seems. He's basically just a shittier stalin that failed at everything he tried to do after unifying china.
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>>2388340
>no one is looking at 'excess mortality' in the US and condemning them for killing millions of people.
Listen to Death Panel podcast and read Health Communism
>Yes, the GLF and cultural revolution were bad
(Maoist Red Guard schoolgirls with eye lasers meme)

>>2388238
Not this individualism nonsense.

Comrade Mao had far less importance and power than is mistakenly attributed to him. Mao was a good man but not a great man who do not exist.

Jesus Christ this site is cooked.
>mao was bourgeois
vs
>mao was retarded aside from the bourgeoise things he did and Deng was better

>>2388358
didn't the cultural revolution target not just capitalist roaders and bourgeoisie but also random people people educated in STEM fields who were contributing massively to the PRC? Like the very same people who helped China get its first atomic weapons were targeted by the GPCR. So it seems to me that it was at least partially retarded, counterproductive, and a circular firing squad. Some people always want to defend purges as getting rid of reactionaries but it's very obvious when a shotgun is being used instead of tweezers to remove lice.

And just like the purges of the 1930s didn't stop revisionism from eventually taking hold, the GPCR didn't stop Deng. It is very easy for defenders of these purges to double down and say no, actually they didn't go far enough. But the question becomes in what regard? Perhaps they didn't go far enough in the regard that they actually failed to target the bourgeoisie, and perhaps they went too far in the regard that they falsely targeted a lot of communists?

>>2423087
"They should have targeted the bourgeoisie" is easy to say but what do you mean by that specifically? The old pre-revolutionary Chinese bourgeoisie had been reduced to a bunch of pensioners without any capital, they were expropriated in the 50s. If you mean that the bureaucratic clique constituted a new bourgeoisie and the GCPR should have targeted them more than it did then most Maoists would agree with you.



 

>The exponential growth of data and the rising demand for data centres is challenging global climate progress. The rapid development of AI could undermine decarbonisation efforts worldwide by driving electricity consumption and emissions to extreme levels.
>As AI models evolve from simple text generation to more complex image, video, and music generation, data requirements are expanding rapidly, further amplifying energy demand. Since 2022, global investment in data centres has nearly doubled, reaching half a trillion dollars in 2024. However, this boom has also triggered mounting concerns around the sector’s growing energy footprint. Today, data centres and data transmission networks are responsible for about 1 percent of global energy-related greenhouse gas emissions.
>AI-optimised data centres, particularly hyperscale facilities, are pushing energy use to unprecedented levels. Some centres now require 100 megawatts or more of electricity. For perspective, a single large-scale facility can consume as much electricity annually as 350,000 to 400,000 electric vehicles.
>In 2022, data centres consumed an estimated 240 to 340 terawatt-hours (TWh) of electricity, accounting for approximately 1 to 1.3 percent of global electricity demand. Electricity demand from AI-optimised data centres is projected to more than quadruple by 2030, reaching about 945 TWh, which would exceed Japan’s current electricity consumption.
>As of March 2025, the United States holds the largest number of data centres globally, operating 5,426 facilities. As a result, the USA accounts for the highest share of global data centre electricity consumption, responsible for 45 percent of global usage in 2024, followed by China at 25 percent and Europe at 15 percent.
>In the United States, data centres are expected to drive nearly half of the country’s electricity demand growth between now and 2030. By the end of the decade, the USA will consume more electricity for data centres than for the production of aluminium, steel, cement, chemicals, and all other energy-intensive goods combined.
>A recent study examined 2,132 data centres operating across the United States, representing 78 percent of all facilities, between September 2023 and August 2024. The findings showed thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2421254
I thought that most disease was caused by the adoption of cattle? So that would make it even more recent

>>2421206
Yeah well, I agree 100% with you on this lmao

>>2421254
Yeah it was a paradise before permanent settlements lmao. Ecofascoids should be airdropped in the middle in Siberia to see how long they can survive.

>>2423053
Keeping third world in peasant mode will neither make them more resilient to effects of inevitable climate change nor will it improve their quality of life. More industry and tech is the way forward to keep third world hospitable because again climate chamge is unstoppable

>>2423063
Are you legitimately retarded? Continued technological and industrial development only worsens the effects of climate change.
Why is everyone on this thread having the same opinion as tech porkies? Am I still on leftypol?



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Why does the left completely lack people with any understanding of planning or management, even at fairly basic levels?
The average microparty cult barely reaches the organizational complexity or success of the average small business, and the average small business fails within a year.

Entire lifetimes are spent debating whether or not we'll have coca cola under communism or whether the Soviet Union imploded because of revisionism or because of not revising enough, or on which children's entertainer on youtube is more revolutionary. Nobody seriously sits and plans out the necessary tasks to perform if we're to bring communism closer, then sets off to do them. if they do, they'll usually find some nagging detail, like the first step for any westerner being a boring program of raising class consciousness back to a level where trade union membership starts increasing again rather than the fun bit where they get to send missives to the comintern, and they'll revert to LARPing. Nobody operates with measurable goals, nobody adjusts the strategies that clearly haven't worked. Christ, even if your aim is just to LARP the CPSU, these organizations are failures: Given a year, even a mediocre capitalist could set up a more popular communist party than any extant English-speaking communist party.

Making people do things is not an impossible task: Look at McDonalds, look at Linux, Look at fucking Wikipedia, it's eminently possible to organize people to get things done, even without paying them. The task is hard, not impossible. Why, then, is the left so terrible at it? I'd half-confidently suggest that ChatGPT could do a better job.

For all their nonsense, cliches and flaws, I believe every communist should be forced to learn modern business management theories and techniques. Left-org management is so dismal that it could only be improved, even if ultimately any communist movement will need to go beyond them. Baby steps - if you can run a communist party better than your local bakery runs its affairs, then maybe we can talk about some Apollo Project level management skills…

My main answer is incentives. LARPing is fun, management ain't, and nobody's getting paid for this. Hell, I'm only writing this because I find the problem interesting and the lack of other people writing on the same subject unusual, I'm not going to go out and start Leftist-Walmart myself juPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Cooperatives!

>>2423064
no, i dont think those help.

i think they potentially have a place in a DotP as a loyal opposition that should be minimally appeased. i understand, appreciate, and would critically support (as in actually help despite my reservations) formation of coops among workers i knew, if they decided to push for it as a means of improving their immediate situation. its worse than unionizing but better than retarded grindset class traitoring.

ultimately i dont think there is really a way forward besides organizing as communists. i absolutely support unions, unionization is objectively historically progressive in the american context, not least of all bc even most american proles have been successfully brainwashed to hate unions now. IWW would be a nice thing to try to bring back if it wasnt mainly a weird furry thing now

>>2423071
>its worse than unionizing
Explain your position please

>>2423073
every time i have seen a cooperative form, they abandoned class struggle. it worked ok for them. every time ive seen a union, theyve been furious that well-established unions didnt bother with them because they already had theirs. were talking about twice in terms of coops and three times in terms of unions, each times small businesses and/or franchises. im not saying this is universally applicable, but thats what ive seen



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