/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2576669
Woke compass horseshoe unity into NazDemSocBol antisemitism gang.

>>2576715
>What were you before?
I was born in a very conservative, catholic, middle class family, and I kept getting away from conservatism as I grew up, but I still kept some traditional christian values in me until I became leftist. I was born in a third world country and that kind of mentality is normal. I had all kind of prejudices on race.
>What video specifically had that impact?
I really don't know which one exactly, but thanks to his videos I started to learn more about racism, exploitation, misogyny and white supremacy and how everything is tightly connected to capitalism. I realized that all of those things are real and are very present in my country. I've seen extreme poverty and bigotry with my own eyes, I've learned that our history is full of injustice and extreme vioence, I noticed how the US and other countries profited of us, but I never knew why nor gave a shit because I thought it was normal until I watched his videos. From there, I started to get more interested on leftist ideologies.

>>2577186
>guys like me love you
>nagatoro pic

transitioning could have saved her?

>>2576830
Delete this.

>>2576838
>Delete this.
nah he has a point both jewish and christian yakubians have done a lot of evil, dont act like the british empire was jewish or that the german settlers in namibia or the belgians in congo were jewish

>>2576830
>hating people for their skin color
cringe
>>2576848
>hating people for their religion
based

>>2576995
Reading comprehension

Wenn der Russe kommt, dann wird endlich der Ostlohn and den Westlohn angepasst, und Bayern hat dann auch nicht mehr 4 Feierttage mehr als wir.

>>2574325
what do they want

Guinea status?

>>2574325
I wonder why the drug traffickers didn't choose equatorial guinea instead? It's a Spanish speaking African country and I'm assuming the drug trafficking organizations are largely from Latin America. Or maybe they're there already and I just don't know?

The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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The kidnap gangs, jihadists and separatists wreaking havoc in Nigeria

Nigeria is currently grappling with a spate of mass abductions. But the vast country - bigger than France and Germany combined - also faces many other security challenges.

Recent attempts by US President Donald Trump and his supporters to frame the insecurity purely as the persecution of Christians overlooks the complexity of Africa's most-populous nation.

There are more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, which is roughly divided into a mainly Muslim north, a largely Christian south, with intermingling in the middle - and the government says people of all faiths have been victims of attacks.

There are criminal gangs in the north-west, an Islamist insurgency in the north-east, clashes over land in central regions and separatist unrest in the south-east - leaving the 400,000-strong army and the police force of 370,000 officers overstretched.

Here's a breakdown of the main armed groups and flashpoints:

Bandits' - kidnap gangs

These criminal gangs, known locally as "bandits", are largely composed of people from the Fulani ethnic group, who traditionally make their living by raising animals. They have traded their pastoral tools for assault rifles, which have flooded Nigeria - and other states in the region - since Libya descended into anarchy following the overthrow in 2011 of long-time strongman Muammar Gadaffi by Nato-backed forces.
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>>2575621
okay, so in this thread there are left-wing democrats and right-wing non-democratic people who both call themselves "communists", so its bewildering.

>>2575635
Even those authoritarian communists argue that its a necessary temporary phase to protect revolution from internal and external counter-revolutionaries. Anyone thinking that real communism is when there is a literal strong man dictatorship and youre a slave to state is mildly put ignorant about this topic.

>>2571366
>"Palestinians are reactionary" the only thing you're educating people about is that 'Marxism is for spiritually Israeli armchair pseuds'
Wrong. In scientific socialism, any violence by a subjugated population without even bourgeois rights under imperialist capitalism is acceptable in order to acquire economic sovereignty. You can see this with Marx accepting the separation of Ireland from England if the alternative is the continuation of the subjugation and exploitation of Irish workers, as long as it is not possible to organize English and Irish workers because of English chauvinism that deceives workers into not acquiring solidarity, then separation is an acceptable alternative so that in the future a socialist federation can be formed with more equal relations between Irish and English, but remembering that the ideal would be to organize English and Irish workers together for a socialist revolution acting together. This already helps to understand the position of defending the self-determination of nations that Lenin wrote.

Now let's start by explaining to you the question of what capitalist imperialism is with Lenin:

<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:

<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2571366
>I've never once heard a single Marxist podcast talk to their undocumented slaves who actually have the jobs that depicted in the symbol of communism. Marxists have spent more time talking to worthless labor aristocrats like Contrapoints. Its impossible to explain why!

Contrapoints is not a Marxist, therefore it's irrelevant to what I'm writing. Remembering that I am from the so-called global south and I have solidarity with all workers of the world, including those of the so-called "first world," so that the proletariat acquires political supremacy to abolish private property in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Since you are talking about the labor aristocracy, then I have a quote for you from the source with Lenin that demonstrates that you do not know that this labor aristocracy is a small minority group of workers that exists to sabotage the workers' movement and weaken it by serving the bourgeoisie, deceiving other workers, but the victory in the class struggle of the working class also benefits this labor aristocracy that is acting as class traitors, unlike the discourse of resentment against first-world workers that third-worldists have been talking about, equating the interests of first-world workers with capitalist imperialism to create passivity and resentment, thinking that scientific socialism is based on a moralism of feeling pity for third-world workers:

<In a letter to Marx, dated October 7, 1858, Engels wrote: “…The English proletariat is actually becoming more and more bourgeois, so that this most bourgeois of all nations is apparently aiming ultimately at the possession of a bourgeois aristocracy and a bourgeois proletariat alongside the bourgeoisie. For a nation which exploits the whole world this is of course to a certain extent justifiable.” In a letter to Sorge, dated September 21, 1872, Engels informs him that Hales kicked up a big row in the Federal Council of the International and secured a vote of censure on Marx for saying that “the English labour leaders had sold themselves”. Marx wrote to Sorge on August 4, 1874: “As to the urban workers here [in England], it is a pity that the whole pack of leaders did not get into Parliament. This would be the surest way of getting rid of the whole lot.” In a letter to Marx, dated August 11, 188Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Post-the holiday, so I can talk a bit.
>>2574095
>okay, so why should i talk to you if you dont believe in democracy (rule of the people) on a supposedly left-wing board? you dont appear to believe in anything anyway.
Left wing isn't synonymous with democracy. There have been plenty of political movements which style themselves as "democratic" which operate with strictly anti-leftist goals. Bordiga outlines my issues with democracy in a revolutionary context cleanly https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1922/democratic-principle.htm
>is it possible to raise the minimum wage to $1,000,000 an hour? if not, why not?
What relevance does this have? No, but the point is the struggle for higher wages so as to heighten and elucidate the contradiction and conflict between prole and capitalist.
>okay, so again, you are forcing the ultimatum that one must either unconditionally support mass immigration or they are hitler.
Where did I say "unconditional support for mass immigration" once? It seems like you can only strawman my position, either out of a lack of understanding, or purposeful misrepresentation. A person who "unconditionally supports mass immigration" is also not operating with a proper communist mindset, as they are completely missing their role we play and necessity of what must be done.
>does marx say that mass immigration lowers the economic and moral condition of the native working class? yes or no?
And I posted his later developments and clarifications. Would you deny this? I don't think you would apply his standard to any other economist or even philosopher.
>you should know since you said marx was wrong. more lowly deception.
Again, where is the deception. I've been awfully accommodating this entire time for what little you provide.
>because youre a coward who both feigns ignorance but also have an implicit dogma.
I posted responses and sources, I don't think I've been feinging anything, while that of your claims seems to be ctrl + f for whatever agrees with you, and a stubborn obsession iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

sigma boy labubu

>>2577157
Okay, I see you're giving this gimmick a political edge, but in that case why not go for the checkmate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YlbiyiuMc&list=RDx2YlbiyiuMc&start_radio=1
The Ukrainians traded that for Erika, fucking please.

>>2577160
Can only think about some underrated political songs out there

>>2577166
Yeah okay, you win.

Continuing with my abstract non-proposal from the last thread. I was thinking about a meta-procedure that combines an auction with something else.

Quoting this critique from myself:
>The fixed prices were introduced to deal with worries about raising prices. But to deal with that, it is enough to have a price ceiling.
What are the worries about raising prices really about though? If somebody snatches a thing right before your eyes, what good does it do to know you could have paid the price? It's better to have a guarantee that you can obtain a thing. So I have come to the conclusion that the part of the proposal that isn't an auction should not be something with a fixed price, nor something with a price ceiling, but simply something without any price. And since I got no idea how to combine the parts in an elegant fashion for now, we just do first the part without any prices and then the auction stuff.

Assume a given pile of classified and quantified resources, ready to be used up in the next period. After the central authority has set the Resource Access Power (RAP) of each pseudo-firm, the pseudo-firms should not yet have to participate in the resource auctions. Instead, the central authority sets aside a part of the pile for the pseudo-firms making requests in kind. The hydraulic diagram from a 2D world describes a situation of just three pseudo-firms. On the left, the blue liquid representing the resource sits in a tank that is closed at the bottom. If we let the resource flow, it will go through the pipe into the three vessels on the right and will reach equal level (and the air will escape from the vessels through the pipes they got on top). These three vessels represent the three pseudo-firms. The width of a pseudo-firm's vessel is proportional to its RAP, so these three are equal in that. The size of a pseudo-firm's request is represented by its vessel's volume (and since the diagram is in a 2D world, area = volume). A pseudo-firm exaggerating its request will make its vessel taller, but not wider.

(Maybe it would have been better to show two pseudo-firms in the diagram, one at half the RAP of the other, but I'm too lazy to edit it. Anyway, you should be able to picture what that would look like.)

Only after this procedure is through do we start with the auction stuff.

Get the fuck in here.

>>2573879
of all porky, musk seems one of the rare breed that are a little bit class conscious as he doesn't expect billions of homeless proles to just disappear when the automation layoffs fully hit

>>2576720
class conscious porkies are the most dangerous

For a long time, I've wanted to write a piece on the potential of a social networking platform as the facilitator of voluntary collective labour coordination.

From everyday communication, to house parties, and large scale mass mobilisations, it is clear the internet has revolutionized relations. Why not extend it to organizing production?

Of course tankies prefer to fantasize about political power, but why in general do communists never actually talk about how to organize production in a communist world.

>>2576872
Considering the track record of both the Roman Empire and the Hellenic Pantheon in general this just feels like the pot calling the kettle black

>>2576985
My point is that Christanity and judaism's moral flaws were pointed out in the 300s, however, I think you assessment of Julian the Apostate to be a bit unfair, sure he prevented christians from becoming teachers and he obviously hated christianity, but he was far from being the anti-christian tyrant he was portrayed as, especially when you compare him to his cousin, Constantius the Second.
Beyond that, Julian's philosophy of Neoplatonism was quite modern in some aspect as he denouced what he called the fables of both greek and jewish mythology. Instead advocating for a more figurative and philosophical religion. He's closer to Enlightened era thinkers then christians were at the time.

>>2576996
I mean that Constatius the second was more anti-pagan then Julian was anti-christian, obviously Constantius wasn't anti-christian as he was one.

>>2576194
Religion is weird and creepy. They also rape children.

>>2576996
Deists are fucking creepy as all hell TBH. I'd trust some illiterate peasant who believes in the big man in the sky over some Newtonian deist.

Oh boy Israel just raided yet another southern Syrian city.

Öcalan spoke mostly about Syria during the meeting:
"The March 10th Agreement between Mazlum Abdi and Shara must be implemented. Those there will listen to me, too."
Gülistan Koçyiğit, a member of DEM, who attended the Commission's visit to İmralı, explained what Öcalan said during the meeting:
"The Syrian issue was the main focus of the meeting. The delegation members also asked more questions about Syria."
"He said he attaches importance to the March 10th agreement and that it must be implemented. Perhaps it's worth noting that this is the most fundamental and underlined point in the Syrian context.
In this sense, he expressed the need for integration of the armed forces into the army, but also for local security forces.
He described one as the Ministry of Interior and the other as the Ministry of National Defense. "You can think of it as two," he said. "One will be integrated into the Ministry of National Defense as an army. The local security forces will be local security forces under the Ministry of Interior. "It could be considered that way," he said. He emphasized the need for thorough discussion of this issue.
I must say that Mr. Öcalan's stance on Syria is very constructive. He believes that the problems there can be overcome through dialogue.
And he clearly and directly stated that he would be very effective in this regard. When asked this question himself, he said, "Yes, the people there will listen to me, too."

For a very long time, the Assad regime existed, and its characteristic feature was ultimately a dictatorship, and it remained so for years. Today, there's a Sharia regime. If true democratization doesn't occur, it will ultimately lead to a dictatorship. In that sense, we must emphasize that one of the fundamental things he described as essential is local democracy.
<https://x.com/serbestiyetweb/status/1994326169127158085

>>2575263
Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?

>>2576810
Yeah if there's one thing dictatorships fear it's the awesome power of local democracy

>>2576951
which is why they say it has to be armed.

>>2576805
Great leap forward proved that ultras are mentally retarded and that China needs pragmatic economics.

>>2576805
yeah dude china was so much better when red guards were shooting other red guards because the dogmatic confusion was so surreal entire student communities killed other student communities for being too reactionary

>>2576982
Mao didn't say to struggle violently though, they just did that

>>2577000
>call for a violent revolution
<no he didnt mean it like this
Mistakes were made millions are dead.

>>2577000
So the cultural revolution was a failure? If Mao created a movement that he could not control or discipline that spiralled out of control and began to do more bad than good to China then it was a failure.

>>2422283
the president/congress controls US foreign policy not the price of commodities on the world market 2/10 gothca

>>2334358
I'm too autistic to succumb to peer pressure.

If the masses don't want to reckon with their own stupidity, they will reckon with their own extinction.

Or do you think being a brainlet carries no consequence?

>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.