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/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

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#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
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Previous thread: >>2539692

Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2592190
>Pirates were based anti imperialists
A good number of them literally worked inderectly for the english governement to loot spanish and portuguese ships

>>2592249
yeah, privateers.

>>2592182
>Americas too fucking scared. This is fake sabre-rattling. Venezuela is not calling their bluff.
It doesn't have to be a bluff even if the US never enters the war proper.

They are just doing a soft naval blockade and scaring the money from Venezuela by seeding uncertainty. Eventually, Venezuela will face unrest and much before anything grassroots(glowopped or not) takes root, the army will intervene. Because that's all the armed forces need in a liberal regime, the signal that *they* will do better under the new management than the old. The regime change environment under siege will give them exactly that veneer of consent. And then they'll get bribed to do a coup "for the people".

The USA is just gonna keep Venezuela under siege until it is sufficiently undermined internally and externally. Venezuela is getting the Syria/Irak treatment. They can afford it, it's a giant mineral wealth and the promise of so much more on the region once the upcoming blue wave gets sponsored by cheap fuel. And also, once the gulf states sign the Abraham accords or w/e, having an unhindered Venezuela with the full support of the USA to refine and export puts OPEC even harder under the USA's heel.

The reward for undoing Chavismo and grabbing Venezuela is probably so vast that the USA would happily burn any amount of money to get it, as long as it is a straightforward transaction like that, with no other risks.

>>2592282
And what if that doesn't happen?

SOMEONE PLZ POST DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY LA LA LA LA



 

>Wants the Party to lead the revolution
So far so good

>Wants to establish councils/re-establish multiparty elections within the scope of socialism once the revolution abolishes capitalism

So far so good

>Wants to be worldwide so that the bourgeoisie can't establish itself somewhere else

So far so good

What's actually wrong with them ? Seems pretty consistent desu

>inb4 look at what they did during the 20/21th century!!!

The ML actions don't seem to have been this excellent too
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>>2591863
Yeah and the U.S. Navy just defensively made off with a Venezuelan oil tanker.

>>2591286
I consider myself a MLoid and agree with anti-revisionists on a lot of things but what you are describing is real, they straight up end up doing great man theory when they say Khrushchev and Deng killed the international communist movement of the 20th century, when it was american imperialism that did that. Its true Khrushchev and Deng did damage it but anti-revisionists end up straight up using them as scapegoats and sweeping for the CIA sometimes.

>>2591887
Deng saved the PRC

>>2591452
>they're killing the planet with 10,000 student newspapers nobody will ever read.
It's old fashioned but those newspapers used to be serious shit.

>>2591280
>>Wants the Party to lead the revolution
Bureaucrat.
>>Wants to establish councils/re-establish multiparty elections within the scope of socialism once the revolution abolishes capitalism
It'd be contradictory to have one party leading the working class and to then have multiparty elections, that would defeat the party's purpose. Also political parties are bourgeois.
>>Wants to be worldwide so that the bourgeoisie can't establish itself somewhere else
Yeah but how does that actually happen?
>The ML actions don't seem to have been this excellent too
Which proves that they're both impotent.



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>>2589757
awwww hell naw the #PolPotPosting was deleted❗❗

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>>2592419
Really appreciate your work on KR, this is probably the most informative thread on /leftypol/ right now.
For now I have a question that's probably a bit funny, but I'm curious. There are a few pictures on the internet of alleged Pol Pot statues that are now stored in the Tuol Sleng Museum. Yet at the same time we are told that Angkar was 100% secretive and no one was allowed to know the identity of "Comrade One".
Do you know of any sources confirming that these statues were displayed in public?

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>>2592432
thank you anon („• ֊ •„) i wouldn't consider this to be much work though, mostly copy-pasting random material i find somewhat interesting due to various reasons. thank you for paying attention♡
>There are a few pictures on the internet of alleged Pol Pot statues that are now stored in the Tuol Sleng Museum.
yes honestly i was also rather surprised by these (genuine) statues at S-21/Tuol Sleng, especially with the vietnamese Kampuchea Dossier 3: The Dark Years pamphlet stating this in particular:
<In the two workshops [at Tuol Sleng presumably just after the Vietnamese discovery], busts and portraits of Pol Pot are seen everywhere. One can imagine under what constraint painters and sculptors were made to do this work. (published by Vietnam Courier, Hanoi - 1979)
https://archive.org/details/kampuchea-dossier-3

>Yet at the same time we are told that Angkar was 100% secretive and no one was allowed to know the identity of "Comrade One".

the secrecy (including initially) applied not only to the high leadership, but to all levels of the CPK organization, following stated by Nuon Chea (Brother No.2) in a speech to the visiting Communist Workers' Party of Denmark in July 1978:
<The Communist Party of Kampuchea has never before been legal. This is also true of other progressive organizations we created. We developed the tactic of secrecy, firstly, to defend ourselves, secondly, to mobilize more forces, and finally to serve our struggle, for example, in mobilizing intellectuals. We found they would not join us if we used semi-illegal forms, but with legal forms such as celebrations and visiting temples, they joined in. Thus, we made them join us step-by-step. Many semi-secret and semi-illegal and secret activities were organized so as to protect the wholly illegal and secret activities of the party centre. Thus, when the enemy attacked from outside, he struck semi-illegal and semi-secret activities only and we were able to defend our party and its leadership. In the neo-colonial, semi-feudal society [regimes of Sihanouk and Lon Nol which both actively persecuted Cambodian communists, or thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2592482
Fascinating, thanks. So they were probably looking forward to a more or less stable socialist society like in China where such depictions could be displayed?

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>>2592506
yes; they did plan on the regime lasting a lot longer than it turned out to be and made plans spanning over multiple years, the first one and the only one that they could put to action before the invasion was a four-year plan (instead of the more "typical" five-year plans) presumably to have it finished by a "round date" of 1980
tables in picrel 3-4 from Pol Pot Plans the Future: Confidential Leadership Documents from Democratic Kampuchea, 1976-1977 1988, Yale University Southeast Asia Studies - useful only for the translations/tables, authors' prefaces are rather biased
<mfw ben kiernan



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>Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
>You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
>The body was too short or empty.
6-2=????
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>>2592222
Never thought of that pun tbf seen it's pronounced Bree-ston.
>>2592224
>I don't know why us believing you would even be important to you.
You make a good point
>Did you fuck her?
No, didn't even know she was like that back then. She was kinda bitchy and mean girlsy, thick as shit, but not any more promiscuous than the other girls like that as far as I remember.

Farage deserves everything he gets but it's funny watching the machine turn on him. He was racist in school and told homophobic jokes in the past - who knew? Nigel Farage doing something like that, next thing you'll know it'll turn out that Jeremy Corbyn has links to bennism.

>>2592214
>Name of Tia Billinger
>Thinks she needs a name that sounds more like a pornstar
tell us some things about her in school anon

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Rough guide to personalities and platforms
Your Party launch conference might not have been allowed to discuss amendments that sought to enshrine the right of members to form platforms and factions - but there are plenty of them already operating and most of them openly. Carla Roberts takes a look

https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1565/rough-guide-to-personalities-and-platforms/

Long shot but does anyone know what happened to britfa.gs? It was a UK imageboard with some unironic blairites on it but it seems to have died shortly after the online safety bill came into effect



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2589288
Essentially. Thank the logic of the market.

>>2589289
Why should I thank an abstraction?

>>2589390
Because the abstractions logic will doom the porkies. Praise be the abstraction.

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juche cigs

>>2589289

There is no good reason to thank capitalism. You can happy about some results, but its irrational to praise that which you are supposed to be against.



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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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>>2563898
Yamato Damashit stories are garbage idealism.

>>2570436
>genz
>mostly elderly
Huh

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It looks like the Nepal thread is gone, so I'm posting this here. I hope everyone that said this "gen z" shit wasn't a color revolution is ready to apologize.

US regime change front funded Nepalese youth revolutionaries, leaks reveal

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/12/10/cia-front-funded-nepal-revolutionaries/

>Leaked files reviewed by The Grayzone show the US gov’t covertly funded Nepalese youth groups in the run-up to a violent coup. The “Gen Z” shadow army mobilized as the US sought to neutralize Chinese and Indian influence over Kathmandu – now controlled by a leader chosen by an informal social media poll.


>The US government’s National Endowment for Democracy (NED) spent hundreds of thousands of dollars tutoring dozens of Nepalese youth on “strategies and skills in organizing protests and demonstrations” prior to a violent coup which overthrew the government of Nepal in September 2025, leaked documents show.


>The documents reveal a clandestine campaign organized by an NED division known as the International Republican Institute (IRI) that sought to cultivate a Nepalese “network” of young political activists explicitly designed to “become an important force to support US interests.” The leaked documents note that the IRI’s program “connects vibrant youth… and political leaders” and “provides comprehensive trainings on how to launch advocacy campaigns and protests.”


>The demonstrations organized under the NED’s umbrella would relate to “issues selected” by the Institute and its local collaborators, thereby “ensuring the U.S. concerns with Nepal’s democracy [would] be resolved,” an IRI report stated. As The Grayzone reported, a similar effort by the IRI in Bangladesh helped generate a coup in August 2024.

>gen z protest
>they are all boomers

>>2592415
glad to know even that close to the border,China just let the governements be couped for the lulz.
The CIA really is the only secret service allowed to do actual work to further their country interests once again.



 

https://abolishthedea.com

MODERN DAY BRUTALITY ON A WORLDWIDE SCALE

The policy (the so-called 'War on Drugs') is built on a gross deception: that drugs other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine comprise a unique group of substances that present an unacceptable risk to health and welfare. This is wholly incorrect: alcohol and tobacco are the most dangerous drugs in existence. The criminalisation of associations with substances other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine creates a criminal underclass that is the resource for the strategy.

The so-called 'War on Drugs' has absolutely nothing to do with drug use or drug-related harm of any kind: it is purely a worldwide economic system based on intentionally-created crime.

It results in mass imprisonment, fining, asset forfeiture, execution, wars, state-sanctioned murder and endemic violence etc. It provides the pretext under which huge sums of public money are allocated and sustains a massively profitable black market in substances other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine.

The US oppresses its own citizens under the name of the policy and this oppression extends worldwide, with governments forced to oppress their own citizenry or be chastised and threatened by the US through the United Nations.

Those who profit from or otherwise wish for the so-called 'War on Drugs' to continue constantly proffer the falsehood that the strategy is related to substance use and the prevention and minimisation of drug-related harm. Those who profit from the oppression of others include but are not limited to enforcement organisations and the prison industry, the legal and welfare systems, academia and a plethora of other industries.

The phenomenon continues due to the power and ruthlessness of the US and its ability to generate economic activity. Its true motives are kept hidden via the mass complicity of governments, the press and those who profit from it.
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South Yemen secessionists, supported by the UAE, are crushing the Saudi puppet state and took over most of the cities in the Southern part of the country, also taking control of the Oman-Yemen border. But the Southern Transitional Council isn't communist like was South Yemen, and fully supports the Palestinian genocide:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/us/2025/09/24/southern-independence-opens-door-to-ties-with-israel-says-yemens-al-zubaidi/

>Transitional Council chief says Abraham Accords will be key to stability after Gaza war

Declaring an independent southern Yemeni state would pave the way for entering the Abraham Accords, the deputy chairman of Yemen's Presidential Council Aidarous Al Zubaidi told The National in an interview.

>The president of the Southern Transitional Council said all the conditions were in place for statehood and added that secession would allow the south to make its own foreign policy decisions, including the option of joining the Abraham Accords.


>“Before the events in Gaza, we were advancing towards joining the Abraham Accords,” he said. “If Gaza and Palestine regain their rights, the Accords will be essential for stability in the region. When we have our southern state, we will make our own decisions and I believe we will be part of these accords.”


>Yemen's eight-member Presidential Council leads the anti-Houthi, internationally recognised government in exile in Aden. The secessionist Southern Transitional Council holds three of those eight seats.


>Mr Al Zubaidi framed independence not just as a local aspiration but as part of a wider commitment to stability in the region. “We support the two-state solution – a Yemeni state in the north and in the south – and a Palestinian state alongside Israel,” he said. “Self-determination is a right. All people have the right to determine their future.”
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>>2592112
why would uae-controlled stc destroy saudi's economy?

>>2592112
UAE-Saudi inter-imperialist war incoming !

Fucking good. Any stupid war involving Saudi Arabia will cause potential fiscal crisis.

booooorrrring

>>2592112
I think thats just diplomatic stuff, they'll threaten war, STC is probably going to give in a few things, Saudis won't do anything, STC gets propaganda boost of seeming like reasonable and rational side, whilst Saudis get to save face because this is already a fairly humilating situation. They won't attack because they'll know that STC defeat will just mean Houthis victory and they'd rather have to deal with UAE puppet on their border rather then an Iranian one.



 

Living in an housing complex with 20 people and 2 showers, a sense of control is needed, if there was 30 showers, there would be no control needed.

Abundance and public ownership would create less of a need for police. I get that, but really I can't see the abolition of police because some guy will get always get drunk and do stupid shit
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>>2591600
You can just say poor people. They aren't out there beating and killing the OJ Simpsons of the world. Reminder that idpol minded Americans celebrated his acquittal at the time. I spoke to an old black guy about it once, he said he and his friends were ecstatic that a rich black guy could get away with the same shit as a rich white man. He said even back then he thought he did it though.

>>2577824
If there's one thing AES countries are known for, it's lax policing

>>2592085
They don't kill people like here. Most of them are unarmed.

>>2577848
>The cops, especially in America, are armed with military surplus
This needs to be emphasized a lot more when we're discussing police.
The police didn't become hyper-militarized by accident. They are getting surplus directly FROM the military, and of course they're going to find every excuse to use it. It's directly tied into the military industrial complex.

>>2578875
This is such a dumb and reductive way of looking at things.
Obviously the police exist as they are, not in a hypothetical communist future, and the police exist the way they are because of capitalism, and the police are one of the major barriers protecting capitalism. The idea that you could just keep them as-is even under a DotP is fantasy.



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