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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2605246
That's fucking cursed

Could the Soviet Union be reunited if we all ask nicely enough?

>>2667310
Lukashenko would be down for it, no one else would be

>>2667326
is Lukashenko even a communist or is he just an ultimate Russophile

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I remember reading once someone saying how Marx predicted culture would become increasingly bizarre as a way to cope with alienation. Does anyone know where that could've been? I know it's pretty vague but that's all I remember and I've been thinking recently that from the last few years it seems like a pretty accurate prediction of the modern world.


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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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>The US is weighing precision strikes on "high-value" Iranian officials and commanders who it deems responsible for the deaths of protesters, a Gulf official familiar with the discussions told Middle East Eye.

>The strikes could come as early as this week, but that timeline could shift, MEE was told on Monday.

>Discussions within the administration have been described as “chaotic”, with a debate over what the repercussions will be in terms of Iranian retaliation.

>The Trump administration has toyed with attacking Iran for nearly a month on the pretext of the brutal crackdown on demonstrators that has seen thousands killed by government security forces.

>After calling on demonstrators to "take over" state institutions, President Donald Trump backed down and said the “killing has stopped”. Trump’s decision to de-escalate came as Gulf states, namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman, lobbied against strikes.

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxTkLyXsIYCxwfz-5brQtWlX8q4oZfJ7zN

>>2666743
The "multipolar" position is daydreaming about the "billions must die" button, apparently. Got to bed, retard.

palestinian victory status?

>>2637195
>le leftcom position isn't to support israel
I've yet to see evidence for that, every single leftcom Ive ever interacted with has been a bothsideser, muh hamas, muh iranian imperialism faggot

>The Zionist entity is engaging in an ethnic cleansing campaign
The zionist entity IS an ethnic cleansing campaign and must be opposed on that basis

>this doesn't magically make class relations within Israel and Palestine disappear.
The class relations in Israel and in Palestine are entirely defined by the apartheid

remember not to say the forbidden sentence.


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Recent news:
SDF rejects the agreement and vows that they'd fight.
Prison break in Shaddad, freeing ~1000 ISIS veterans.
Aqtan prison (which houses ISIS members) north of Raqqa gets besieged.
Clashes in Kobani & Hasakah countrysides.
Breach in Al-Hol camp, which is now mostly emptied.
New agreement signed by both the STG & SDF.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
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QAMISHLI, Syria, Jan 26 (Reuters) - Russia is withdrawing forces from an airport in northeastern Syria, moving to end its military presence in a corner of the country where the Damascus government is trying to seize control from Kurdish forces, five Syrian sources said.
Two of the sources said Russian forces had begun a gradual withdrawal from Qamishli airport last week. Some of the forces were expected to move to Russia's Hmeimim air base in western Syria while others would return to Russia, one of the sources said.
There was no immediate comment from Russia's defence ministry. Russian daily Kommersant reported last week, citing an unnamed Syrian source, that the Syrian government might ask Russian forces to leave the base once it had pushed the Kurds out because "there’s nothing for them (the Russians) to do there".

biji biji status?

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>>2667523
Still bijiing. Also advanced to An Serkeftin an Serkeftining.

>>2664237
>>2664240
Bets on ISIS turning rogue and attacking both the YPG and the new syrian goverment?

American here. Someone tldr Syria for me thx


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A general to compile all news, articles, essays and info related to the Greater Middle East-North Africa region.

Creating this general in an effort to centralize all the info that currently gets posted to 5 different threads concerning conflicts and developments in the MENA region. Seeing how slow they generally are and at risk of getting bumped off besides the Palestine thread and that it’s likely people interested in Yemen, Syria, Iran, Sudan and Palestine are likely also interested in news and info from across the region I think it would be useful to post everything in one place.

This will be the inaugural edition to see how it goes. Welcome!
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Saudi Arabia in Talks With Egypt, Somalia on Military Coalition

Saudi Arabia is finalizing an agreement on a new military coalition with Somalia and Egypt, part of its bid to curtail the United Arab Emirates’ regional influence.

https://archive.is/utDRe

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>Israeli B747 freighter reg 4X-ICK transporting munitions from Serbia to Nevatim Air Base.

>This morning, 4X-IAJ departed from Beersheba 🇮🇱 Nevatim military air base 🇮🇱 and landed in Belgrade 🇷🇸. This is the 4th Israeli 🇮🇱 cargo flight in less than 72 hours.

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2014806410563825960

https://x.com/Lukai1861/status/2014797564533731610

Why is Israel importing large amounts of Warsaw Pact weapons?

from newsanon's thread:

Exclusive: Weapons flow to RSF via Libya continue despite pressure on Haftar

Earlier this week, MEE reported that the eastern Libya commander is coming under growing pressure from Cairo and Riyadh, which have warned that continued assistance could trigger a serious shift in Egypt’s relationship with him.
Libyan sources with direct knowledge of the matter told MEE, on condition of anonymity, that Saddam is now also under pressure from the United Arab Emirates to continue the facilitation of weapon shipments to Sudan via eastern Libya.
Saddam remains undecided, the sources said, even as weapons continue to flow to Sudan.
Eyptian military officials shared intelligence with Saddam Haftar outlining Emirati plans to fragment Haftar’s territory once the RSF secured control over Darfur and Kordofan and destabilised SAF-held northern Sudan.
“The Emirati plan involved dividing Libya into multiple zones, with some areas remaining under Tripoli’s control, others under Benghazi, and Jufra and Sirte separated,” the source said.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-weapons-flow-rsf-libya-continue-despite-pressure-haftar

Israeli report says Jordan and UAE to support potential US attack on Iran

Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and the United Kingdom would provide logistical and intelligence support to the US military in the event of an attack on Iran, according to an Israeli media report.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-report-says-jordan-uae-support-potential-us-attack-iran

US weighs 'precision strikes' on Iranian officials as military build-up surges, sources say

The US is weighing precision strikes on "high-value" Iranian officials and commanders who it deems responsible for the deaths of protesters, a Gulf official familiar with the discussions told Middle East Eye.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-weighs-precision-strikes-iranian-officials-military-build-surges-sources

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>Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke today with Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shiaa al-Sudani.

>The Secretary commended the Government of Iraq’s initiative and leadership in expediting the transfer and detention of ISIS terrorists to secure facilities in Iraq, following recent instability in northeast Syria. The Secretary and Prime Minister discussed ongoing diplomatic efforts to ensure countries rapidly repatriate their citizens in Iraq, bringing them to justice. The Secretary and Prime Minister also discussed Iraq’s ongoing deliberations to form a government, emphasizing their shared commitment to ensuring that Iraq can fully realize its potential as a force for stability, prosperity, and security in the Middle East.

>The Secretary emphasized that a government controlled by Iran cannot successfully put Iraq’s own interests first, keep Iraq out of regional conflicts, or advance the mutually beneficial partnership between the United States and Iraq.

What are the chances that if Prime Minister Sudani doesn't do what the Americans say all these ISIS people are going to break out and wreak havoc? what are the chances they are going to break out anyway?


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Singapore is an economical and social miracle undoubtedly, low rate of corruption, high rate of employment, FDI, Income and quality of life in general.
All this achieved through a strict neoliberal economy, Lee Yew is practically worshipped by Neoliberal for not only his policies but also for his Anti-communist operations.
Marxist (atleast I haven't found any) can point out to any contradiction plaguing Singaporean multicultural society.
Does this economical path is the way to prosperity, as an alternative to liberal western ideology.
What does /leftypol/ say on this? Can he be refuted by Dialectical Materialism?
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>>2654305
>But what isn't really emphasized is the shifting narrative by and of PAP to suit current tastes, discarding and obfuscating history when needed.
fair enough

>>2652564
Finally a decent post in an otherwise questionable thread
>despite exploiting the tariff situation like Carney and Albanese did.
I'm curious to know how in your view Albanese has put the tariff situation to good use, aside from attempting (so far rather fruitlessly) to secure some concessions for the steelmaking and aluminium industries as well as agriculture, he has been far more meek and willing to turn the other cheek about the whole thing than Carney has.

Is leftypol banned in Singapore? I haven't seen anyone from Singapore here

>>2652564
>Nor is Singapore an amazing place to be in right now. The neoliberalisation has left the city state with low TFR on par with South Korea and Hong Kong. And this is already with constant immigration and Malay minority, the native chinese and indian would be even lower. Rising living costs and declining economic power has meant that the PAP couldn't make any gains against the Workers Party, despite exploiting the tariff situation like Carney and Albanese did. Ironic that LKY spent decades ranting about welfarism only to have the current Prime Minister be called Voucher Wong for his constant reliance on government vouchers and stimulus spending. PAP even gives out free groceries as 'political campaigning'. The economic miracle of Singapore for Singaporeans is over. I doubt any local neoliberal or fascist would be happy with the sober reality now.

this is pretty much the same path japan, korea, and taiwan went. Lol

>>2651637
>>2652094
>>2652127
good posts


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>>2515750
red shamhala edit i made, thoughts?

>>2667466
The drop should hit harder after lenin's speech/during Zhukov's medal shot, rn it's a bit flacid imo. Good clips tho

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>>2667468
is this better? (also made some changes)

>>2667491
Yes, the shift from speech to music is stronger now imo, tho lenin's sentence is a little bit cut off at the end there, he says hand instead of hands

>>2667518
still works tbh


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How far back did he send American leftist movements? Before him Jimmy Carter was talking about more programs, working with the USSR and socialism lite equivalents. Then Ronald Regan comes in, introduces crack, reignites the red scare and perma fucks all relationships with leftist ideology. To the point where the Democrats regressed hard and socialism would be a dirty word until the 2020s. Even then it’s still only used by the most radical mainstream politics.
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Reagan didn't kill the New Deal in America. Reagan didn't establish a half century of liberal hegemony.

That was Carter

The left set itself back by falling for every single bit of brazen COINTELPRO since the 1950s, abandoning materialism for smug elitist "good fucking person" and ostracizing the general working class for college students and HR professionals and complete rejection of pragmatism and playing the game for personal purity.
The Western Left went through the same declines everywhere, not just the US

Yankleft was already dead by the time of Reagan.

Reagan didn't destroy the American left, he saved it.

Prior to 1980 the US left was in shambles. Labor unions were thoroughly anticommunist, Maoists were busy killing themselves because of Dengist counterrevolution, stagflation had discredited social democracy and the student movements had collapsed. No one could agree on anything and no one had any real vision for social revolution.

Then along comes this charismatic rightoid named Ronald Reagan who sweeps the elections and seems to represent everything wrong with America. Anti-Reagan sentiment was like Trump Derangement Syndrome on steroids. The Popular Front with the Democrats is revived as leftists pour into the Rainbow Coalition for Jesse Jackson. Everyone in the mainstream media pours hate onto the Reagan administration. Communism and Marxism are forgotten as everything is reduced to anti-imperialism, anti-militarism and critical support for the Ayatollah, or the Taliban, or Noriega. The worst tendencies of the US left were cultivated in the 1980s, and only got worse after the USSR collapsed, discrediting socialism and leading to 15 years of post-left anarchist nonsense that only died in 2008.

>>2667514
America was always this post-left anarchoretardation nonsense. America never had a proper left.


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Made a subreddit to explore the potential of using social media as a facilitator of organizing labor outside market relations. Come check it out, troll if you want, but the general idea is that social media already facilitates market less activity from basic communication, to large scale mass mobilization such as protests, could it not extend to production as well?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialProduction

First project is to make the banner and icon for the sub. Think of like a place to experiment with alternative relations of production, without market relations and incentives. Will it fail? Probably. But we need to actually create an alternative, not just sit around crying about how bad capitalism and it's externalities are.
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>>2666088
>Reddit is shit I know. But I'm not gonna build an entire platform just to experiment. If the model proves it has some viability then sure, collaborative labour without market relations would be a perfect project to build.

https://join-lemmy.org/
https://lemmy.ml/

You might not need to do that.
Going on lemmy might attract more serious people.

I dont think this is gonna work
Social media is literally designed as a market, maybe if it were its own site id think its otherwise but its a subreddit

>>2666366
I'll check it out, thanks.
>>2666369
Social media is a tool, that has been in many cases captured by the market. No different than the printing press was captured by religious institutions.

It's a subreddit right now, the idea is to test the viability of coordinated non market production, using social media as a facilitator.
If it it proves viable, a standalone non corporate platform would be an obvious project to collaborate and build.

>>2666071
Anon let me help you with one issue you have:
"social production" means production that is done not for individual use but for use by members of society as a whole, such as commodity production
"individual production" is when you cook a meal for your family. It's production for the producer, not for wider society

Feudalism engaged heavily in individual production. Capitalism turns production into social production by alienating us from the means of laboring for ourselves and compelling us to labor in a system of commodity production. If your goal is not co-ops, and isn't expropriating existing productive forces, then it seems like you want people to engage in individual production. People already do this, but the reason it's not dominant anymore is because we don't all live on self-sustaining homesteads. We work jobs and that takes the majority of our time and energy. If the goal is socialized production, then I ask why anyone would want to do this for free, outside of their hobbies and charitable work, which I assume they're already pursuing if interested and don't need to be convinced to pursue.

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>leddit


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The system doesn't just manufacture consent. It also manufactures dissent and decides which dissidents you're allowed to hear.
Michael Parenti published "Inventing Reality" in 1986. Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" came out in 1988.
Chomsky cited Parenti exactly once, for an article, not the book that preceded his own on the same subject.
Same thesis: media serves power. But the books are not the same.
On "conspiracy": Chomsky dismisses structural analysis that names actors as "conspiracy theorism." Parenti: "The alternative to a conspiracy theory is an innocence theory… the CIA is by definition a conspiracy."
Chomsky wanted you to protest… abstractly. Never name the names.
Right-wing anticommunism is obvious. But they needed someone to attack socialism from the left, to gut-punch communism from inside the tent. Enter Chomsky.
Chomsky equates Stalin with Goebbels, called Leninism "counterrevolution."
Parenti documented the real gains: full employment, free healthcare, free education, free housing.
He wrote about how the existence of the USSR forced concessions in the capitalist countries: social programs, worker rights, formal decolonization.
Capital had to compete with an alternative Chomsky made sure you wouldn't defend.
On empire: Chomsky framed US foreign policy as blunders and mistakes. Parenti said "the Iraq war has not been a mistake", it succeeded for the class it serves. Your taxes, your children's lives. Their profits, their reconstruction contracts. Externalized costs, privatized gains.
On intervention: Chomsky supported the NATO no-fly zone over Libya. Parenti opposed it, listed what Libyans would never see again after "liberation."
On elections: Chomsky did the "lesser evil" dance every four years, vote Democrat in swing states. Parenti broke with Bernie Sanders over the bombing of Yugoslavia.
Chomsky got MIT, The Guardian, documentaries, Jacobin. Parenti barely got lecture halls and public access TV.
Parenti was the one they didn't want you listening to, so they put Chomsky in front of you.
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>>2666578
>utopianism
What does this even mean? Why the fuck do Marxists think their delusional ideas are less utopian than the previous ones?

>>2666325
Structures don't exist without actors, lmao

It takes a special type of larp to use a self-assigned label as proof that you're part of a real historical continuity with figures you have never met and their so called 'successes' in which you played no role.

>>2666578
>controlled opposition
You're the retard who presents milquetoast reform easily achievable under capitalism as "communism", dipshit.

>utopianism
You don't even know what this means. For example, communism doesnt do "land reform", communism abolishes land ownership altogether. The bolsheviks were conscious of this, which is why they clearly stated the "peace, land, and bread" slogan was merely an expression of their role in executing the tasks of the democratic (read: not socialist) revolution. Meanwhile you are a disingenuous larper who calls literally anything under the sun "communism".

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>>2667405
>Why the fuck do Marxists think their delusional ideas are less utopian than the previous ones?
Calm down Mises.

"Utopianism" here refers to socialisms that ground themselves on ready-made visions of the future rather than the dynamics of class struggle. MLs intentionally misinterpret this to throw concrete analysis out of the window completely because the future of communism hinges on pretending bourgeois nation-states with an untouched capitalist mode of production are actually Existing Socialism(tm) because their leaders larp as communist revolutionaries.

Writing recipes for the cookshops of the future is not the domain of marxists, but it's not difficult to analyze the present and conclude we haven't moved past a capitalist MOP anywhere yet.

>>2667410
>because i said so


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Trump is about to drive Canada and Europe into China's arms over this greenland shit in which case China will have the majority of trade on every continent even north america outside the US.

This is basically happening as we speak with Canadian PM Mark Carney openly welcoming Chinese auto manufacturing into Canada.

Now that China will have overwhelmingly won the trade war against the USA and will be the primary trade power in south america, north america (minus USA), western europe, eastern europe, the middle east, africa and asia.

Given that, when can we expect China to implement global socialism?
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>>2665999
>what consumer benefit could offshoring bring?
Cheaper prices (though this is fluxuating), younger workforces, and new consumer markets which means more profits which means more spending and economic activity back home. From the article you quoted:

>While Vietnam still offers a “tariff dividend”, labour and land costs have risen sharply.
>In Bac Ninh, industrial land prices now exceed some Chinese regions. Yet demographics provide fresh momentum: millions of young workers are entering the labour force, while China’s manufacturing workforce is ageing.

From the McKinsey article:
>Notably, 88 percent of Southeast Asian trade flows stay within the Asia–Pacific (APAC) region.12 This may be a consequence of Chinese investment in manufacturing production in the region: around 30 percent of exports flow to China.
>Chemicals exports to Mainland China have more than doubled since 2016, as have electronics exports to Mainland China, Taiwan, and the United States.
>In Indonesia, opportunities could be found in chemicals and metals export routes to China. For example, metals exports stood at 15 million tons in 2023, growing by 179 percent compared to 2016.
>Malaysia exports around 10 million tons of metals a year, the majority of which is to China, and around 3 million tons of electronics a year, the majority of which is to the United States.
So they aren't just going to the US as a tariff dodge.

>Offshoring to dodge tariffs is not the same as what you're describing.
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>>2666009
Indonesia did it themselves though, they banned the export of certain raw metals, such as their biggest metal export, nickel, in order to force them to be processed domestically.
https://www.iea.org/policies/16084-prohibition-of-the-export-of-nickel-ore
Malaysia has instituted similar policies.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysias-ban-raw-rare-earths-exports-remains-despite-us-deal-trade-minister-2025-10-29/
So while they're not related to US tariffs, these were still driven by foreign export restrictions on China.
>There isn't anything bad about it. I'm just saying that this isn't a sign of "China ushering in global socialism." It's a sign of a developing service economy.
Oh I see. But isn't developing full automation beneficial to the advance towards socialism? People generally don't want to do hard work, especially factory work, when they aren't in poverty and have other choices. Automation solves that problem by removing the need for human manual labor entirely.
>If young Chinese workers don't want to work in factories though, I don't think farms will fare much better.
Young Chinese workers are mostly competing for white collar jobs, but I've seen a trend of people tiring of the academic/corporate rat race and opting for agriculture for psychological reasons(simpler life, quieter, etc). The fact that many of their families already own rural land or operate farms helps with this.
https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/11/17/chinese-millennials-are-quitting-their-empty-city-jobs-to-find-fulfilment-as-farmers
I think an agricultural rebound is probable, farm automation like drones and self-driving tractors will also reduce the labor necessary.

>>2666036
>So while they're not related to US tariffs, these were still driven by foreign export restrictions on China.
The point is more that China is going to these smaller countries in the first place. China has plenty of these metals within their borders. They bought them to refine and sell. They can't refine them themselves anymore, but they still buy it for the sake of keeping their market dominance by way of making everyone else buy it from them. Regardless, if you want to discount these examples, that's okay; the articles still discuss others.

>“In fact, the global furniture production hub shifted from Dongguan to Binh Duong in 2018,” said a Chinese furniture factory owner. “That industry will not return to China.”

>But isn't developing full automation beneficial to the advance towards socialism?
Sure, but every developed nation is *also* doing this, and nobody is making any threads asking if the United States is going to usher in global socialism once Waymo, Cruise, et. al. solve the spatial navigation machine learning problem for very obvious reasons. All that I'm saying is that, at present, there is A.) nothing particularly special about the current trajectory of China's economic development, and B.) no real indications that they plan on making a global socialist pivot, especially since "automated socialism for me and global trade through my markets for you" is patently not global socialism either. Automated manufacturing will still require resource exploitation in the wider global market.

(I will note here though that "full automation," if possible, will probably be the biggest accelerationist factor in any country in which it occurs towards at the very least a welfare state if not socialism, because at that point societies will be forced to pay people the dividends of automated work in order for the economy and its surrounding society to remain stable.)

I think that part of the reason why people are so hung up on China and Russia is because those are the only past or present superpowers with any real connection to former socialist / communist ideals and ideas, prompting a certain amount of fearful "if not them, who?" thinking in the minds of those who really want to see global socialism or communism in their lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2666044
>China has plenty of these metals within their borders
Not really, we're talking mineral deposits here, not refining. There are plenty of metals for which China does not have sufficient domestic deposits to supply its industry.
>Sure, but every developed nation is *also* doing this, and nobody is making any threads asking if the United States is going to usher in global socialism once Waymo, Cruise, et. al. solve the spatial navigation machine learning problem for very obvious reasons.
Food delivery and taxis isn't exactly the most useful area of automation. The only major company I'm seeing that's seriously implementing automated factories is Tesla, and without heavy government involvement and focus like there is in China, the majority of American industry, mining, farming, etc. is not likely to become automated in the near future.
>"automated socialism for me and global trade through my markets for you" is patently not global socialism either.
But prosperous automated socialism in one country is already a bigger step than what has happened so far, which is prosperous socialism nowhere. The world isn't exactly ripe for global socialism with how strong anti-socialist forces, both military and ideological, are in nearly every region of the world. But having a socialist society where truly nobody is poor will deal a massive ideological blow to the global conception of "socialism is when tyranny" or "socialism is when everybody starves equally", not to mention the challenge to capitalist military hegemony.
>Automated manufacturing will still require resource exploitation in the wider global market.
It will require continued trading for minerals from Russia, Africa and South America. However, trading for raw resources is not necessarily exploitation, and these countries can be built up through the Belt and Road rather than being turned into extractive colonies.
>I will note here though that "full automation," if possible, will probably be the biggest accelerationist factor in any country in which it occurs towards at the very least a welfare state if not socialism, because at that point societies will be forced to pay people the dividends of automated work in order for the ecPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Given that, when can we expect China to implement global socialism?

the chinese are not your kitchen boys you lazy shit
fight for your liberation yourself
the gall on you, you will sit with funko pop in your ass, gulp starbucks and play video games while other people have to toil and present socialism on a silver platter for you
fuck you treatlerite scum


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