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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2568598
Retard vs. retard fight. No need to belittle China's contribution in defeating the demonic Japs while criticizing them for their stance on Shitrael. Both of these "people" deserve to die.

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>>2570201
colors are just symbolism that can be repurposed at will. the international brigades used purple on their flag which was historically a royalist color.

Black Liberal Larper shows what the DSA is really about

>>2570935
DSA: Do nothing, Swallow latest products, Accept defeat.

>>2570936
Needs to be shorter:

Defeat Surely Assured
Down Syndrome Actor
Dick Sucking Assholes
Does Sexual Assault
Doesn't Swallow After



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>>2570907
Shits falling for year…

>>2570922
Very nice, now send him to the front

>>2570924
Kiev has also technically been falling by nafo standards.



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ITT: we come up with direct replacements for misleading, recuperated, overly-verbose or scary socialist terms.

This isn't for anti-censorship codewords or downplaying our values, this is about sharing words and phrases that avoid someone mid-conversation having to ask "what the fuck is a 'proletariat'?", and "aren't dictatorships bad, even if the dictator is a proletarian?", confusions which could all be avoided by not being out-of-touch academic wankers.

comic rel is obviously a joke, don't be an idiot and waste time critiquing it.
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>>2570339
"most communists are not taking any practical actions to bring communism any closer, they spend all their time posturing about ideas and vibes instead (like a religion or fandom), which is (to OP's point) why they prefer complicated and outright ambiguous language to simple language" is an argument, not an analogy. the analogy exists to hammer home the argument.

>>2570360
i am happy to be open ended, i want to be positively surprised. the chances someone says "i organize irl" as a counterargument are already minuscule, even before you start pulling apart their organization and realizing they're in a newspaper cult that puts out pompous statements of demands despite having 15 members and no serious plans to add more because it would upset the dynamic of their social club.

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>>2568420
vanguard (of the working class) -> forefront, thought leaders, natural leaders

disambiguate private/personal property into personal property (things you own and use) and socially productive property (things that produce goods or services for the market)

organize (as an imperative) -> find out how you can support local socialists/communists/anarchists/people-feeding-the-hungry

organize (as an answer to "how can you make this happen?") -> connect with likeminded people, educate others, defend and support the vulnerable and poor in our communities, fight fascism, win the people's trust, govern by putting the working class's needs first, step by step transition to socialism

mass line -> solicit complaints and get to the root of problems

proletariat -> working people

bourgeoisie -> the super-rich

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>just go back to pre-scientific socialism, let's mistify Marxism even more, let's just confuse the everliving shit out of everybody instead of just taking the Communist Programme and its language - this will SURELY help the movement
are you all retarded? genuinely asking?

>>2570944
There's so much aggregated crap, wrongheadedness, disastrous failure, backwards-looking cultishness, and go-nowhere definition debates that it's easy to answer your strawman question with: yes.

There is no movement. There are barely movements capable of building the groundwork for a movement. There are millions of good people who basically vibe with the idea of socialism/communism, which is when the world isn't as shit as the status quo, and there are hundreds of thousands of stupid idiots (many on this website) who are very arrogant because they've got ideas and words floating about in their do-nothing heads. Knowing that the dictatorship of the proletariat is a special snowflake meaning of dictatorship different to the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein (wait, no, critical support for him against US imperialism!) or whatever does nothing to bring communism any closer.

Point me to a real movement that abolishes the present state of things. $80 if you pick something other than a foreign government which conveniently lets you outsource your ideological battles like they're the manufacture of cheap cutlery.



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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>>2528311
A sclerotic, ad-hoc, and unstable response to imperialist decay that historically appeared during the advanced interwar crisis of several imperialist nations, three of which were technical victors of the Great War. The program of the fascists was one of “national rejuvenation” as a means of saving their imperialist national capitals; the program pursued consisted of agrarian and industrial cartelization, the terroristic attack upon all workers organizations, the smashing of all German unions, the formal and de facto end of bourgeois democracy (democracy for the bourgeoisie) to produce a unitary party overcoming the fractious nature of an internally competitive class to allow for an aggressive reorientation towards both the proletarian enemy at home and the imperialist rivals abroad, a program of economic rationalization led by the state, that is, mass mechanization, the consolidation of economic functions into the state, not, say, by nationalization as would happen under “socialism” (Stalinism or social democracy) but by turning the Nazi Party itself into constant regulating pinkertons with seats on the corporate boards and usually ensuring owners and executive officers were loyal party comrades, so that is, a symbol wherein the bourgeoisie are told what to produce and when yet profits accumulate to that class as it was before and their hierarchical position within production is maintained, in the Nazi example the failures of these policies (they failed for all three) were most evident, so additional measures to end the economic crisis were initiated, including mass prison labor, compulsory labor for the unemployed, mass arrests (all amounting to state directed slavery) and eventually international conquest as an endless funnel for investment, means for acquiring plunder, and means for the acquisition of additional labor-power to exploit; in terms of state backed slavery, as stated, the economic crisis never abated, not even through the war, a slave functions as fixed capital within this system, as such it comes with costs, namely the costs of maintaining a slave as a living human capable of labour. The Nazi solution to this was annihilation through work and the outright murder of those who could not be worked to death in such a fashion, such as the pregnant, very young children, and the elderly; luckily for the Nazis this could be justified as Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2528614
It’s always funny as fucking shit to me that tankoids unironically think the reason Britain and France didn’t immediately go to war with Germany was *specifically* so it could destroy all of Europe and then the Soviet Union and not, like, the massive fucking war that was still alive in recent memory, killed millions of their people, destroyed their economies, and nearly collapses their governments. Like, when France actually did fight Germany in WWII they fuckin lost, and Britain nearly did too. That’s why they went with appeasement for a very long time. Not to mention WWII was a good outcome for capitalism so idky tankoids worship it so much, it literally revitalized the system. Like not saying either government was benevolent but “Ackshually they were HOPING Europe would be destroyed because they hated that random shithole that also wasn’t going to invade any other country THAT MUCH” is such a nonsensical and arguably idealist as fuck take

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Fascism (Italian fascismo, from fascio — bundle, union, association) is a political movement that arose in capitalist countries during the period of the general crisis of capitalism and expresses the interests of the most reactionary and aggressive forces of the imperialist bourgeoisie. Fascism in power is the terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary forces of monopolistic capital, carried out with the goal of preserving the capitalist system. The most important distinguishing features of fascism are the use of extreme forms of violence to suppress the working class and all working people, militant anti-communism, chauvinism, racism, extensive use of state-monopolistic methods of regulating the economy, maximal control over all aspects of social and personal life, broad connections with a significant portion of the population not belonging to the ruling classes, and the ability—through nationalist and social demagogy—to mobilize and politically activate this population in the interests of the exploitative system (the mass base of fascism consists mainly of the middle strata of capitalist society). Fascist foreign policy is a policy of imperialist conquest.

The common features inherent in fascism as a political movement do not exclude the existence of various forms determined by the degree of predominance of political or militarist forces. The predominance of militarist forces is characteristic of military-fascist regimes.

>>2570929
In the struggle to create a mass social base, fascism put forward a system of views (the so-called fascist ideology), which made extensive use of reactionary doctrines and theories that had developed before its appearance (the racist ideas of J. A. de Gobineau, J. V. de Lapouge, H. Chamberlain, etc.; the anti-democratic concepts of F. Nietzsche and O. Spengler; antisemitism; geopolitics, pan-Germanism, etc.).

At the center of fascist ideology are the ideas of military expansion, racial inequality, “class harmony” (the doctrine of the “people’s community” and “corporatism”), leadership cult (“the Führer principle”), and the all-powerfulness of the state apparatus (the theory of the “total state”). These ideas found their most concentrated expression in Adolf Hitler’s book Mein Kampf (1925). A very significant characteristic of fascist ideology is loud demagogy aimed at masking its true content. Serving this goal, in particular, was the speculative use by fascists of the popularity of socialist ideas among the masses.

Emerging as a reaction to the revolutionary upsurge heralded by the Great October Socialist Revolution in Russia, fascism became a fierce and dangerous enemy of all progressive humanity and above all of the international revolutionary workers’ movement. The first fascist organizations appeared in spring 1919 in Italy in the form of paramilitary squads composed of nationalistically minded former frontline soldiers. In October 1922, the fascists—who had become a major political force—staged an armed “March on Rome,” which provided the ruling circles of Italy with a pretext for appointing the leader of the Italian fascists (“Duce”), Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW, as prime minister on 31 October 1922. Over the next four years, the fascist leadership gradually eliminated bourgeois-democratic freedoms and established the absolute power of the fascist oligarchy. In the 1930s Italy completed the creation of a corporate state, which contributed to the militarization of the Italian economy. The democratic trade-union movement and the economic and political gains of the working class were abolished. ᴉuᴉlossnW’s government pursued an increasingly active policy of imperialist expansion. In 1935 fascist Italy launched a war against Ethiopia, and after conquering it (1936) took part in the intervention against Republican Spain (1936–1939); in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2570930
The German fascist National Socialist Party arose in 1919 (the official name — National Socialist German Workers’ Party — reflected the desire of its organizers to exploit the influence of socialist ideas among German workers in the interests of extreme reaction). Amid a deepening political crisis, relying on support from major monopolies and forming an alliance with influential circles in the Reichswehr leadership, the leader (“Führer”) of German fascists, Adolf Hitler, received a mandate to form a government in late January 1933. By staging the Reichstag fire and blaming the communists (see Leipzig Trial, 1933), the German fascists within a few months completely “synchronized” the country, unleashing bloody terror on all democratic and liberal currents, imprisoning and physically eliminating all real and potential opponents of the Nazi regime. After the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party and all traditional bourgeois parties were banned. All public organizations—especially trade unions—were dissolved; parliament was stripped of its prerogatives; all forms of public oversight over the state administration were abolished. The dictatorship mechanism created by National Socialism included a terror apparatus marked by extreme brutality (SA, SS, the Gestapo, the “People’s Court,” and other organs of fascist justice), an apparatus for organizing influence on the population (the National Socialist Party, the National Socialist Women’s League, the Hitler Youth, the German Labor Front, the “Strength Through Joy” organization, etc.), which controlled all forms of public activity, as well as an apparatus for propaganda control of the masses (headed by the Ministry of Propaganda). In close alliance with the military leadership, Hitler's government carried out a rapid militarization of Germany. A course was immediately taken toward militarizing the economy, accompanied by the implementation of various forms of state-monopolistic regulation (state investments, primarily for military purposes; tax policy; credit policy and planned inflation; administrative control over economic development; forced syndicalization or cartelization of industry; creation of new associations of monopolists, etc.). International agreements limiting Germany’s armaments were broken, and a series of aggressive acts were carried out to strengthen the military-strategic positPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #2
>Tired of the re-runs edition
>>2440521 Previous thread
https://archive.ph/4Dq3L Thread 1 Archive

The Real Reason the USA Is Attacking Latin America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWH-LPyTow
0:00 Trump's war on Latin America
1:04 (CLIP) Trump meddles in Argentina's election
1:23 US imperial strategy in Latin America
2:02 (CLIP) Trump wants Venezuela's oil
2:14 Natural resources
2:41 Ties with China and Russia
3:02 Oligarchic counter-revolution
4:11 US war on Venezuela
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>>2570616
>>2570658
well the real kicker is that it's the USA and the CIA who have historically supported cartels and their bosses against socialists in the region, just like the CIA has worked with the mafia before. Organized crime has always been in bed with western hegemony.

>>2570616
It's a completely fake cartel made up by the US govt, this was actually admitted to on 60 Minutes in the 90s

>>2570885
>this was actually admitted to on 60 Minutes in the 90s
got a source for that clip so I can send it to braindead burgers who believe lies?

i missed this interview greyzone did with the main coup plotter of venezuela in 2019. jordan goudrou. some interesting things here.
remember when it happened and everyone laughed at this pathetic attempt of a coup. two crazy americans and a hanfdul americans taking down maduro?

he claims it came out of the white house, venezuelan opposition, and from the highest level.
but also remember he is a ex-glowie and was working for them until he claims he was betrayed.

the plan was that several of maduros generals had allegedly been compromised assets. they were working on getting people in place for the palace coup. the boat operation with 90 guys was the first phase in the link up with the covert assets. had the plan suceeded, then they would have linked with the compromised assets, performed a palace coup, maduro would be forced to flee or be arrested.
then a temporary junta would be put in place. but he says that two major problems. the opposition was very divided. some demanded that juan gauido was put into power, while a lot of people did not trust guaido or want him in power.
then he says that the reason the mission failed was sabotage. he claims that for whatever reason, the CIA leaked their location so that they were arrested. the CIA at the time was opposed to this regime change scheme.
max actually pushes back on him saying that it doesn't seem very plausible that he would be able to pull it off, but he replies that the same tactics took down bolivia. and he insists that enough of maduros generals were scared and willing to turn.

idk how much is true or false. probably true that this was acutally a much more serious and larger plan with multiple phases and not just a random scheme of some privateer. i can also maybe buy that CIA opposed it. but its hard to know why. he doesn't know either, but he suspects that venezuelan regime change would have disrupted CIA drug trafficking. he also blames mike pompeo for closing the Caracas embassy which made glowie destabilisation ops much much harder. but i don't believe Venezuela is a narco-starte like other nations when they have so much oil reserves.

>>2570896
i believe this is the video



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>>2570875
your posts would be so much higher quality if you included more arguments and fewer personal attacks. you always sound like you're putting someone on trial and it's so cringe and larpy. just educate people, man.

>>2570882
Sir he is trolling

>>2570884
trolling is for children in game lobbies. he should grow up.

>>2570864
>I think it's closer to what Stalin is saying in that picture I posted
his reasoning is based in dialectical materialism, the concrete analysis of historical conditions occuring at the moment
the reasoning of "geopolitics" is based in distorted interpretations of physical and economic geography and often appeals to ages-old national sensibilities, such as a conquest war of the distant past that occurred on the same soil being relevant today to justify military aggression of tomorrow
>Does this make Ben Norton of Geopolitical Economy Report a "neo nazi?"
not at all, but i would suspect someone that uses "geopolitics" to explain their reasoning to have somewhat faulty reasoning, since the entire "science" is based on false, metaphysical premises

Oh no no no, ziobros



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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I don't know how to interpret pol pot.

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>>2565363
why do you feel you must interpret him, or anyone as an individual at all? i mean it would theoretically be kind of interesting to approach pol pot from a schizoanalytic angle but that seems >>>/dead/ on arrival

>>2547940
The same happened to Che in the Congo, why do people think that their "magikkk" has some effect on real, material and dialectical physics

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>>2565692
some of the magikk, like traditional medicines derived from herbs (myth and medicine being inseparable in many societies), was (and still is, in places) a reasonably well-enough to work explanation for the processes of real, material and dialectical physics
not unheard of are drugs used today being extracted, isolated and used on their own in scientific medicine, like the antimalarial drug artemisinin which was discovered during the secret chinese cultural revolution-era program project 523, along with a number of other compounds extracted by Tu Youyou from a variety of traditional chinese folk remedies that she collected the recipes of on a journey throughout the country. this earned her a nobel prize in physiology
<https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228382-000-the-modest-woman-who-beat-malaria-for-china/
however just like the medicinal plants which often contain not only the healing component(s) but also a number of other compounds including the ones with quite unpleasant side effects if ingested/applied on a human, if not outright poison that kills them; the magikk has a comparable byproduct of such in the idealist ways of thinking it is self-reinforcing

>picrel

medicinal plant of strychnos nux-vomica for thread [people's] tax. strychnine trees grow on ទួលស្លែង, Tuŏl Slêng [tuəl slaeŋ]; lit. "Hill of the Poisonous Trees" or "Strychnine Hill" another famous species is the chankiri tree

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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2560064
Мой дед отрицает геноцид в Камбодже. Понятия не имею, почему. Мы живём в Барнауле, не имеем никакого отношения к Камбодже, и он вообще не сторонник теорий заговоров. Он никогда не был в Камбодже и не встречал ни одного камбоджийца, но у него дома дохуя документов "доказывающих этот обман". Например, полный сценарий фильма "Кампучия: народ, который хотели убить" с кучей рандомно выделенных букв якобы указывающих на "секретные послания" от режиссёров. Он утверждает, что Хенг Самрина не существует, и что любая смерть приписываемая "красным кхмерам" "явно является результатом американских бомбардировок", и в качестве доказательства приводит огромные распечатки аэрофотоснимков Камбоджи. Не знаю что не так с Вьетнамом, но если это ему сказать он зовет меня "социал-империалистической свиньей".

>>2569620
ВАМ ЛИБЕРАЛАМ НЕ ПОНЯТЬ ЧТО ОТСТАИВАНИЕ ЧЕСТИ ТОВАРИЩА ПОЛ ПОТА НА САМОМ ДЕЛЕ НЕОТЪЕМЛЕМАЯ ЧАСТЬ ПОСТРОЕНИЯ СОЦИАЛИЗМА В ОТДЕЛЬНО ВЗЯТОМ УМЕ ДАЖЕ МАРКС ПИСАЛ ОБ ЭТОМ В ПИСЬМАХ ЭНГЕЛЬСУ

>>2569330
>No famines during the wars in yurop
Are you retarded?
>Kulaks never hoarded grain and something about le evil bolsheviks seizing supposed non-existent grain
The evil commies also gave me a unicorn.
>Rightwing
I don't need to hide my communist sympathies behind idealistic notions like morality like you lmao

>>2570019
В рунете посты подобные твоему называют последним вскукареком.

>>2569849
В голове же. А эвтаназия база? Или буржуазное



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Lest you want a certain dam to go KABOOM!

Then there goes your imperialistic way of life.

Don't try to take things that don't belong to you.

People will fight for their freedom to the very end, and you will cause your own downfall, when you could have just played nice instead.
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>>2567040
The declaration of war. The first move of open warfare. The first missile fired.

>>2567025
i don't want to be burger anymore

>>2570886
拯救我们吧,习主席
解放我们吧,习主席
我不想再当美国人了
拯救我们吧,习主席
光荣属于中国共产党

>>2570886
No one is stopping you from moving there save Xi's strict border control laws. Tell him how much you love Marx like that fucking idiot Hasan did.

>>2567029
>umm, I'm Chinese



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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I don't give a fuck about any of these "le based anti imperialist" countries until any of them ACTUALLY takes any meaningful action against GLOBAL CAPITALISM.

>>2566879
stfu retard, establish your own DOTP instead of leeching off the global south

Why not Eritrea?

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>>2562383
What about Belarus? The last true social democracy in Europe?



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