/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2572160
>literally anyone who lives at high altitude will adapt over time. even within one person lifetime
That's not evolution lmao

>>2572377
Why not just get a Latina wife and have kids? I don’t know if you know this but race is made up and you’re perfectly capable of dating outside your race.

>>2572427
I’ve been with a few latinas. Good bodies but somewhat low autism score and unsophisticated.

Maybe dengists are a distinct subspecies of humanity with the brain only being the size of a walnut.


Here is a graph, proving that autism score decreases when Deng levels increase.

>>2570344
>Antifa was the paramilitary wing of the KPD, but yes, it is nothing more than a fed op now … I might see antifa as legitimate in the west again the moment they raid the DSA HQ and kill people in it.
You will be disappointed because the original antifa was an attempt by communists to create an alliance of communists and social democrats in 1932 as the Nazis were rapidly taking over Germany. That's why the original symbol used two red flags (symbolizing the communists and socialists).

>>2570812
>Non-Aligned Movement with his own formulation of it.
fascist italy + fabian india alliance?

ᴉuᴉlossnW 2.0 award

>>2567333
First as a tragedy…

>>2571369
No idea; could see him trying to play a bunch of different sides. One element of ᴉuᴉlossnW's style of dictatorship was that he could be pretty lenient/opportunistic. In the Cold War he could've been a wildcard; coming up with all kinds of insane schemes where he'd ally with one side in one conflict only to fight on the opposite side in another.

>>2571927
the point still stands; if you dont like it, then stop forcing yourself to be malcontented. if you have anything to actually contribute however, then go ahead.
>>2571930
they can never actually explain why im wrong or why i ought to be despised, yet i live rent free in their heads anyway. i think its something to do with marxist cultists encountering heretics or unbelievers. of course, it only ends for them with concentration camps where they get to "re-educate" you into following their opinions, otherwise you deserve to die or be enslaved.

>>2571930
>>2571950
That's a totally different anon, the only posts I've made have been in regards to how effectual discussion is in relation to how it may be applied to praxis. That should have been obvious with the writing style.
>>2571950
>they can never actually explain why im wrong or why i ought to be despised, yet i live rent free in their heads anyway.
I wrote a longer post that I despise having lost when I clicked a link to double check a reference, but to shorten and summarize what I guess my issues are, it's that you tend to easily go off on side tangents that aren't very useful and are more a practice in onanism, and that you tend to overcomplicate things beyond what they are by taking the most uncharitable view of it, while inserting some assumptions into the small details that then add up. Just now, your writing about Marx and Aristotle is easily addressed by looking at the context of his critique, of how Aristotle only goes half way in his theory but is unable to recognize the uniting feature of his comparisons, and the social context of why that might be. Marx seems to be using "concept" (even when referring to antiquity, though this may be wholly separate as well) in a very different way then you are, and I don't see how it's a contradiction to value (as he defines it) being an emergent "abstraction" dependent on social relations. And from that, I further do not see the necessity of getting into the weeds with Hegel, when much of what you refer to Marx here doesn't bother with such, with Marx using Hegel at the most as a framing model/diagram then using it outright. Complexity can be useful, but not when its unnecessary. You seem to also add more confusion by taking early Marx (Grundrisse) and trying to reckon it with his far less "Hegelian" influenced works 10 or 20 years later, when I found Marx to more heavily "Darwinian" in his framing as time went on. Using terms like the "economic cell form" is a lot less of a hegalian framing.
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>>2571989
>praxis
what is the thread topic, again? dont you think its weird how the guy who talks about political economy in a political economy thread is constantly demonised?
>side tangents that aren't very useful and are more a practice in onanism
such as?
>tend to overcomplicate things
any examples?
>Just now, your writing about Marx and Aristotle is easily addressed by looking at the context of his critique, of how Aristotle only goes half way in his theory but is unable to recognize the uniting feature of his comparisons, and the social context of why that might be
but its a false analysis, as i have previously demonstrated. aristotle has a theory of value and indeed, commensuration, which marx obscures. he doesnt even provide a source for his quotations, which says a lot.
>I don't see how it's a contradiction
because value as a social construct must have recognition to have validity. if it is unrecognised, then how does it persist?
>I further do not see the necessity of getting into the weeds with Hegel
because marx is using hegel's logic to describe the development of capitalism… you appear utterly incurious as to the contents of the text, so why have loyalty to a man you dont even want to understand?
>You seem to also add more confusion by taking early Marx (Grundrisse) and trying to reckon it with his far less "Hegelian" influenced works 10 or 20 years later
marx in the 1873 preface to capital says this:
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>>2571930
>he certainly cites sources and contributes more than you
lol you dont know who i am. i stopped in round two after going in circles with this guy for over six months with heavy citations. he openly contradicts himself constantly and posts things that are objectively false and when corrected ignores it. his position has been completely exhausted and he just comes back to repeat it despite being proven wrong repeatedly

opinions on shimomuran economics.
Mainstream economics suggests that investment should equal savings. Shimomuran economics suggests investment should be greater than savings.
Shimomuran econmics suggest doing this by using the central bank to create money out of "nothing". For example, the central bank buys assets in local banks and then puts a debt (I owe you) towards these local banks, in its balance sheets. The central bank then sends this literal "free" bank credit to the local banks. The local banks then send it to key industries for the central bank guides the local bank to do that. (more credit to those local banks that follow the central banks guidance).
Japan, sk, taiwan, and maybe china did this. It lead to an economic boom

just 2 reasons really

1) Raw strength; the ruling class is obviously better equipped to militarily enforce their will land defend their interests, whereas proles literally have nothing and getting guns is hard

2) Ideology; as if the previous point weren't already enough, the majority of people nowadays absolutely love the system they live under (completely consciously and willingly) and are dumb enough to think its interests coincide with theirs. That's how you get people going around spewing constructive criticism of capitalism out of their mouths.

>>2547502
organization, discipline
why do you think communists are obsessed with those? because this is the source of power

>>2553610
A method to oevrcome all those forms of control has never been found and probably will never be. But it is not required as history shows. Good post though
>>2557273
Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy. As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way
>>2557523
This discipline and organization is nowhere to be seen. Long gone are the days of thousands of common people organized meaningfully

>>2564333
>Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy

I'd say it isn't, it just so happens that those who hold power within the state also think highly of morals and values etc. but theoretically the state could do whatever the fuck it wants and it could get away with it

>As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way

that might depend but it doesn't change the fact that thinking about criticism like that is still ideology and love for the system, this sort of theoretical attitude only accepts critique of anything if it has any proof of being succesful without actually considering its arguments (that's the reasoning behind the classic line "what's the alternative though?")

>>2547502
>The majority of its society was made of slaves
That was common i the ancient world. Sparta just had much more and the slaves were greeks.

>>2564002
so nothingburger?

There is currently shootings and instances of widespread looting by armed tribals/militias in an Alawite neighbourhood in Homs following the murder of two people who happened to be Sunni. STG itself says there's no evidence that the murder was motivated by sectarianism, but that hasn't stopped the situation.

Remember the mfs who thought Rojava was gonna fall in a week after Assad? Lmao.

>>2572136
The situation definitely isn't good for them, the regime is once again attacking them, they have conceded a lot and got nothing out of it.

So many words in this thread

Emirati journalist films with female RSF commander calling for mass rape of Sudanese women

If arabs and hitler had a kid it would look like RSF.

Courtesy of newsanon's thread

Emirati, Israeli and far-right influencers 'invented Christian killings in Sudan': Report

Beam Reports, a Sudanese investigative platform that combats disinformation, said in its latest report on Wednesday that after the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) paramilitary group seized control of el-Fasher in Darfur nearly a month ago, misleading content about the nature of events began to surface online in a "synchronised manner".

The objectives of the coordinated campaign, Beam Reports stated, included shifting blame of atrocities away from the RSF, recasting Sudan's war as a religious conflict to "evoke foreign sympathy", and flooding the online space with fabricated content to confuse media coverage.

Beam identified Amjad Taha, an Emirati analyst, as the architect of the campaign. He posted several claims about alleged Islamists in Sudan, which were then amplified by other accounts.

One claim alleged that Britain was about to grant citizenship to a "Sudanese jihadist" whilst "Christians are being slaughtered in Sudan and Nigeria by Islamist extremists".

Taha added that Sudan's army had "killed 2 million Christians, displaced 8 million, and raped 15,000 women, while leftists stay busy attacking the UAE… a nation where church bells ring freely".

Taha also claimed that a Sudanese army officer had "eaten a man's heart after killing him and his children". Again, no evidence was provided, but such claims were amplified by Emirati, Israeli and far-right accounts.
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The Sheikh Who Conquered Soccer and Coddles Warlords

The Emirati vice president is best known as the owner of Manchester City, a top English soccer team. Behind the scenes, he has been described as the “handler” guiding his country’s secret foreign wars.

https://archive.is/2dwMV

>Charities controlled by Sheikh Mansour set up a hospital, saying they were treating civilians. But that humanitarian effort was also a cover for the secret Emirati effort to smuggle drones and other powerful weapons to General Hamdan’s group, the Rapid Support Forces, or R.S.F., according to American and U.N. officials.

>Charities controlled by Sheikh Mansour set up a hospital, saying they were treating civilians. But that humanitarian effort was also a cover for the secret Emirati effort to smuggle drones and other powerful weapons to General Hamdan’s group, the Rapid Support Forces, or R.S.F., according to American and U.N. officials.

>In interviews with more than a dozen American, African and Arab officials, he is described as being at the sharp end of his country’s aggressive push to expand its influence across Africa and the Middle East.

>In places like Libya and Sudan, they say, Sheikh Mansour has coddled warlords and autocrats as part of a sweeping Emirati drive to acquire ports and strategic minerals, counter Islamist movements and establish the Gulf nation as a heavyweight regional power.

>President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, was allied with Iran, a fierce competitor with many Arab states for influence in the region. Sheikh Mansour was tasked with wooing him to the Emirati side, Sudanese and American officials said. A series of back-channel meetings culminated in 2017 with a high-profile visit by Mr. al-Bashir to Abu Dhabi.
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UK allowed arms exports to UAE after being told weapons given to RSF
Britain licenced £172m in military equipment exported to the UAE between April and June this year

The British government approved weapons exports to the United Arab Emirates even after being told that the UAE had diverted UK military equipment to paramilitaries accused of committing genocide in Sudan, it has emerged.

It was reported last month that British-manufactured small-arms target systems and engines for armoured personnel carriers were found in Rapid Support Forces (RSF) hands in combat zones in Sudan.

MEE has previously revealed that the UAE provides the RSF militia with extensive logistical and military support.

The UN Security Council, of which Britain is a member, received information in March alleging that the UAE may have supplied British-made arms to the RSF, according to the Guardian.

But it has now emerged that Britain then continued to approve exports to the UAE for military equipment.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-allowed-arms-exports-uae-after-being-told-weapons-given-rsf

Eurasia Federation from eastern Europe to China gouverned by the workers for the workers. Any kind of formation of bueraucracy should have been purged.

Socdem on Natlib violence

Actually true. Khrushchev being a revisionist was no excuse for such petty geopolitical maneuvering and sabotage. DPRK had the better approach.

>>2568365
1. it's not oikophobia to dislike people who aren't similar to you. today, identity and culture is determined by fandoms, politics, cults, celebrities, sexuality, and a million and one other things other than where you're from. a 20 year old furry transsexual social policy graduate and DSA activist has nothing in common with a 60 year old evangelical guy who barely graduated high-school and now runs the largest chain of car dealerships in the tri county area and throws a chunk of change at the Republican party. "oh, they're both Americans" - so what? what does that mean in a world that is connected by telecommunications 24/7, a world in which it's easier to talk to someone in new zealand or botswana or in alaska as it is to talk to your next door neighbor.
it's not just the left, either! the right (the racist xenophobes! the upholders of tradition!) has become a global trump cult - you want to play-act being a real marxist? how about you consider the material conditions that drive this cultural shift rather than blaming "leftards"?
2. the left is not a counter-culture, there is no longer such a thing. the right has a much more oppositional culture than the left, however. ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/conservatism-as-an-oppositional-culture )
3. while it is true that the left are 2cool4u virtue-signalling posers for the most part, the right are deeply uncool vice-signalling sociopaths. one of these things is clearly better than the other.
4. gatekeeping this is good. the very fact that you (a vice-signalling and uncool weirdo unable to read the room and still throwing out dated references to tumblr) are filtered by it is precisely why.

>>2569975
Why the fuck would anyone care what the twinky neolibs say?

>>2569975
>60 year old evangelical guy who barely graduated high-school and now runs the largest chain of car dealerships in the tri county area and throws a chunk of change at the Republican party
Yeah this one should lose power and/or die.

>>2569942
Okay succdem

I keep hearing this but half of men still call themselves "leftists". And half the woman are rightists or will be in short time. So, is it just an oversimplification of class politics?

>>2571472
that niger pipeline wowed me

>>2571472
Yesterday two locals in Port Harcourt told me the French are criminals but are gone. Now it's Russia and China that are there. And that's why Trump is sperging, he also wants in. The chinese built everything, like roads and a rail in Lagos. The chinese own everything.

But those locals weren't stupid, they expected the Chinese to also turn shit. At least they accept the local currency and built some stuff.

But I like how they said that basically the French are gone.

>>2539217
damn

>>2406671
zionist shill, you are not a communist

>>2407378
extremely good post