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They're all in cahoots. It's true, it's one big club, and (you) are not in it. Politics is just one big spectacle where the rabble gets exploited and killed. But the elites party and have their fun. Xi Jinping, the oh so great anti-imperialist. Of course!(b8 thread)
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>>2921197
an actual good leftcom post that isn't just racism and ragebaiting, amazing

>>2921197
>the "proof" was available in the 1930s itself in the words and actions of the people who turned the CPC from a real communist party into a vehicle for bourgeois nationalism.
The CPC is explicitly against nationalism, tho. Han Nationalists are highly annoyed by all the "woke" stuff the government promotes such as giving ethnic minorities higher test scores and affirmative action hiring practices.

>>2921333
To this day there are still Russian nationalist butthurt USSR built nuclear plants and dams for free in central asia

>>2921333
Nationalism ≠ Ethno-Nationalism
Tho I don't think shattering your former borders would serve any use if you wanted to do a dotp (why I'm against balkanization in general for the same reason people here are fine with monopolies, it's better to keep the whole territory/ressources when transitioning to socialism and not be stuck with montenegro or somaliland borders)

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THEY ARE ALL IN CAHOOTS.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2026-09-25/Full-Exclusive-CMG-interview-with-Tesla-CEO-Elon-Musk-1QJCMoucyVG/p.html


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<Even bigger war edition

>previous bake
>>2909568


Latest News
>Iran is trying to expand the war
<Iran retaliated
>Iran has destroyed 5 more US bases in Iraq
<Houthichads are advancing
>Oil is rising
<Iran possibly preparing to invade kuwait

>Important Links:
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>>2921168
>everyone today likes Salvador Allende.
Ehem.

>>2921399
Nat to mention British imperialist kickstarting the wahabist take over of Islam.

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mossad is getting sloppy. maybe thats why this war is not going well for them

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>>2921168
Don't you have a fat genocide convention to go to lib?

>>2921458
what made you even think that's a post by a lib? surely it's more 'hard left' than anything?


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>Bye, bye, Microsoft! – edition
https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-drops-windows-for-linux/

The Chinese question is: how does a comfy non-imperialist nation transform itself into a global socialist model that can be reproduced and adopted by the rest of the world, without either reproducing the aggressive and counter-productive policies of the USSR or appearing toothless, while resolving the contradictions of the so-called first world FOR THEM and liberating them from capitalist domination, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?

<A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

Original threads:
https://archive.ph/S2XYA
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leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html

bunekrchan.xyz archives:
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>>2920178
epicly meme'd response, my friend!

My father has become full chinapilled. He's a working class man who works with his hands, phoned my yesterday to whine about however he points out anything that's better in China than here (UK) his boss and others blather about 'human rights'.

>>2917803
If you are a young man gender ratio in your cohort is the number one predictor of quality of life.

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https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/socialcreditsystem/

Turns out, famous Chinese social credit system only applied to companies, huh. Capitalist China established a social credit system specifically for it's own blood and flesh capitalists, to see which one of them are worthy of receiving government contracts, huh

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>>2921462
How the fuck nobody in this thread ever brought this up?

Promoted by government and built together with society. Give full play to the government's roles in organizing, guiding, promoting, and modelling. The government is responsible for formulating and implementing development plans, completing regulations and standards, and fostering and supervising credit service markets.

Establishment of credit in the production field. Build production safety credit reporting systems, improve records of production safety pledges and negative production safety information, as well as systems for punishments of untrustworthy production safety conduct. Focus on coal mining, non-coal mining, hazardous chemical product, fireworks, and special equipment production enterprises as well as enterprises producing or selling civil explosives and demolition enterprises or units, in completing mechanisms for production safety credit review and evaluation at entry and withdrawal, and promote the implementation of enterprise responsibility for production safety.

Focus on food, medicine, daily consumer goods, agricultural products and farming inputs in strengthening credit management for all kinds of production operation entities' production and processing steps, and establish systems for sharing information on product quality credit information between different regions and departments. Promote the establishment of systems for credit investigation on quality, accelerating the improvement of the 12365 product quality complaint reporting and inquiries platform; establish systems for reporting on creditworthiness regarding quality, releasing a black list of the untrustworthy, restricting market entry and calling for market withdrawals.

Establishing credit in the field of circulation. Research and formulate systems for the collection and sharing of enterprise credit information in the fields of trade and logistics, improving the basic norms and index systems for credit appraisals. Advance the establishment of credit in wholesale and retail, trading and logistics, accommodation, food and drink, and residents’ services, carrying out categorized management of enterprises by credit. Improve credit cooperation models for retailers and suppliers. Strengthen law enforcement against monopolies and unfair competition, intensify investigations of actPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Previously: >>2586971

Linkfarm:
https://mlwerke.redflag.ps/
https://www.papyrossa.de/
https://www.marxistische-blaetter.de/
https://www.jungewelt.de/
https://www.unsere-zeit.de/
https://www.klassegegenklasse.org/
https://www.demvolkedienen.org/index.php/de/
https://www.wsws.org/de
https://kommunistische-organisation.de/
https://kommunistischepartei.de/
https://wiki.kommunistische.org/index.php?title=Hauptseite
https://www.rf-news.de/rote-fahne-news
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Was ist eigentlich hier der Konsens über Femboys?

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🤔

>>2921429
People say French is the most beautiful language but imo it's German. There's something magical about how German makes every word sound like an industrial meat grinder slowly kick-starting into operation. German is truly the best language.

>>2921443
>People say French is the most beautiful language
First time I ever heard of that. I heard people say French accent is sexy but that's not the same thing.

>>2921443
German is actually a beautiful language, don't use those crusty boomers in that clip as an example.

French sounds goofy as hell, the dialect most the time too, at least High French from Île-de-France. I don't know anybody who thinks of French as the most beautiful language. Most celtic languages are beautiful, like Gaelic.


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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2920948
>How would you get workers into an industry that is short on hands without incentives? The Soviet Union had better pay and conditions for people willing to work in the Arctic regions
Strictly speaking, there is no need for that, because people can be drafted to work at this or that activity in this or that place. IIRC Trotsky was a big fan of that, though I am not. (A drafting procedure could still take into account what the drafted people actually want to to, e. g. people fill out forms ranking activities from more liked to less liked and then the forms are processed in random order or by some order of merit like school grades.) There can be remuneration standards for that, I just wouldn't want them decided at the enterprise level.

Suppose the administration of an enterprise is not all its workers. These administrations communicate with the center. The center makes decisions about allocating resources to the enterprises. If the center gives money to the administration of an enterprise, that's a very flexible resource for the administration, too flexible'. If the center gives management that sort of freedom, they will likely just do the short-term thing and enrich themselves. With an electronic accounting network that the check clocks are linked up with, the center can compartmentalize a local administration's budget or even use completely distinct circuits of play-money for things like remuneration. Aaron Benanav speaks of that.

The less universal and abstract, the more compartmentalized and specific, the requests from the enterprise administrations to the center are, the less room an enterprise has for bullshitting, but it also gets kinda tedious.

>>2920930
it depends on how often we can re-plan things. if it can happen instantly then there is no issue. but if there's a three-month delay to re-plan for you to get a necessary spare part, then it makes sense to have a monetary budget with which to order parts until the plan catches up. that way you keep "spontaneous" spending in check. without a budget you run into issues associated with soft budget constraints

>>2920975
I'll check it out; thanks.
>>2920992
>drafted to work
Literally slavery.
What happens if a worker exiles his commander? Court Marshalling?
>>2920985
>A type of social knowledge
Read: >>2915426
<In classical economics and Marx, the use-value of something is what it is useful for due to its known aspects. Known by whom? - Most adult people living in society. Even though this knowledge changes over time (Marx gives the example of magnets), for a given time and place this knowledge is taken to be something fixed and objective.
I have interpreted anon's meaning perfectly.
I thus critique this naivety by adding how to Marx, use-value was still contingent, even in the presumption of social knowledge. It is true that in the general classical view, supply created its own demand, but Marx permits error on the part of suppliers; especially in the larger thread of crises of overproduction. If use-value was a known factor, all markets would achieve equilibrium. We see Malthus as early as 1800 comment on the "glut" of markets, which in Smithian terms, exceed effectual supply, and so become waste-products. Another Malthusian, Senior, also sees that there is overproduction, which can only be solved by redistribution. Rodbertus finally saw that overproduction is coincidental of underconsumption, although Marx was earlier in the Manifesto, diagnosing this issue. If we take even the earliest classical economists like Boisguilbert in France, we see how the contradiction of value-formation impresses itself on the value of wages; e.g. where food is "overproduced", this cheapens labour, and so the excess food becomes wasted, unless it is traded abroad, which was Boisguilbert's free trade solution, which nonetheless distracted from a commercial confrontation of the limits of capitalist production. So, use-value as a type of social knowledge has always been limited, especially as it concerns the "paradox of value", described as early as in ArisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2921323
>>drafted to work
>Literally slavery.
>What happens if a worker exiles his commander? Court Marshalling?

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>>2920975
>>2921323
I'm through 2 chapters of the second volume, and the word "tome" is apt. I will not be continuing, since it's not befitting of a novice to be so acquainted with this dry economic history. Here is my own summary:

Chapter 1 deals in the general situation of the kolkhozy, or the collective farm, which began to develop in 1925, in smaller form (Ch. 1C), but which by 1930 had grown in size to encompass dozens of households. By 1930, there were 113,000 kolkhozy in the USSR - jumping from only 57,000 in 1929 (Ch. 2), expropriating hundreds of thousands of kulaks (Ch. 1A); a struggle notoriously culminating in the Holodomor (1932-3), and so the class struggle between peasant and state ended. The drive for collectivisation was simultaneous of the application of "laws of industry" to all sectors (Ch. 1A), necessarily meaning centralising authority in line with investment (e.g. mechanisation). It was suggested in November 1929 that the kolkhozy be managed in the style of the state-owned sovkhozy, or "grain factory" (Ch. 1A), but this was too costly.  Along with the kolkhozy was their union in the kolkhozsoyuzy, which was sought to be joined with the agricultural cooperatives, or the koopsoyuzy, further centralising authority. Enthusiasm for the kolkhozy displaced the traditional power centres of mir and skhod, and even overshadowed the soviets - along with intrusive plenipotentiaries. Major features of the kolkhoz system established in 1929-30 endured until Stalin's death, and for some time after it (Ch. 1C). So, the basis of collectivisation was firmly planted in this era.

Chapter 2 deals with Machine-Tractor Stations (MTS). In terms of ownership, by Spring 1929, the sovkhozy only possessed 100 tractors, while large 147 kolkhoz owned 800 tractors, and 57,000 small kolkhoz owned majority of the 20,000 available tractors. By October 1929, no tractors remained in personal possession. Technology for agriculture was suggested to be joined in a "unified organisational centre" to provide investments to places most requiring it, and so on. Markevich rejected a policy resuscitated by Khrushchev 30 years later, that each kolkhoz-village should possess its own tractors, and so insisted upon MTS monopoly. For this, representatives of thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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The question is, presuming it's possible without forever balkanizing the country,
What would a Socialist America be like?

I would have just posted this in /USApol/ but I feel the question is dense enough to necessitate a thread of it's own.
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>>2920637
Like this

>>2921431
>>2920656
Damn, beat me to it lol

>>2921277
Tbe post was accurate tho, the last American capitalist regime would rather nuke its own soil out of spite rather than allowing the USA to go red even for a second.

>>2921431
I love social democracy

>>2921436
t. will be crushed


 

Why is it that the surviving members of the George W. Bush administration who acted as the architects of the Iraq War have never faced any legal penalties for what they did?

The 2003 US invasion of Iraq was arguably one of the worst human rights atrocities of the past 50 years. Over 1 million Iraqi CIVILIANS were killed. If that's not a low key genocide similar to Gaza I don't know what is. But it's even worse knowing this war was based entirely on a gigantic lie (a "noble lie" if you will) by some of the slimiest, most diabolical villains ever known to American politics. Yes, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld are dead and rotting in hell. But George W Bush, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith are still alive. Neocons Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan and John Bolton who were the top dogs in PNAC (Project for a New American Century), which called for massive military spending and preemptive attacks (also a "New Pearl Harbor" which conveniently happened on 9/11) are also still alive. WHY HAVEN'T ANY OF THEM EVER BEEN CHARGED AS WAR CRIMINALS?????

The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics. Many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats and publicly supported Kamala Harris over Trump on the basis Trump wasn't Neocon enough. These people have names and addresses and have to face some kind of legal penalties so the world can finally have closure and the Neocon war criminals can finally reap what they sowed.
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>>2920792
>doesn’t name the Jew once

>>2920802
>expecting women to be consistent

>>2883310
Can we convince Caleb to re-upload the “WHERE DID THE NEOCONS COME FROM?” slideshow video on his archive channel?

Holy shit it's back.



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i know you theory-minded suburban adolescents don't want to hear this, but one of the unavoidable prerequisites for any kind of leftist revolutionary effort, or any large scale human endeavor for that matter, is obtaining money. you want to organize a strike or start a union, you need money to pay your friends who are now out of work and starving. you want to start a big protest on the streets, you need money to pay lawyers and bondsmen and hospital bills when your friends inevitably end up in jail or the emergency room. you want to start an armed insurrection and go to war with cops and national guard and maga militias you need enormous amounts of money to pay for weapons and ammunition and vehicles and fuel and radios and burner phones and medical supplies and rations so your friends don't get massacred. you need a lot of money, and the money has to obtained honestly and ethically, otherwise you cease to be a revolutionary movement and you just become a violent capitalist drug/weapon/human trafficking cartel masquerading as a revolutionary movement and the people you're supposed to be fighting for will despise you even more than the regime. and you need to be able to handle the money without becoming emotionally attached to the money, i.e. you need to be willing to part with the money you worked very hard for and throw it into the pool with everyone else's money and cease to think of it as your money after that, it is now everyone's money and it doesn't matter how much your contribution was compared to anyone else's because it's not your money anymore. and trying to abandon the whole concept of money is not the solution, it's an absurdly unrealistic and lazy copout that simply tries to ignore and sidestep what is ultimately the true source of all of our problems, the fundamental flaw of human psychology that got us into this mess to begin with, which is our lack of emotional maturity when it comes to material wealth. there is no getting out from under capitalism without addressing that core problem, there is no clever shortcut that will allow us to skip ahead to the next level of human social evolution without dealing with our greed and our entitlement and our pettiness. if we can't find any reasonable middle ground between getting high on money and rejecting it outright, between capitalism and utopianism, then we've got more immediate and personal problems to deal with before we can start talking about how to refactor the entire world.
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>>2919195

every conversation turns into raping corpses sooner or later that's just what happens

>>2915273
They hated him because he told the truth

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white bourgeois leftists have some completely bananas out of this world levels of entitlement and financial ignorance i've noticed. i was doing some research on housing and i stumbled across an advertisement for some leftist "intentional community" project who are looking for a new roommate who will agree to pay like $1200 a month and also fulfill a weekly work quota in their organic vegetable garden just to rent a single bedroom in a tacky mcmansion with like 6 other people who smoke weed indoors and have big loud parties all the time and have who knows how many cats. it's like, what's the catch? it sounds too good. it seems like any time the so-called "radical left" in america handle some kind of business transaction their prices are always unreasonably exorbitant for whatever it is they're offering or extremely stingy or non-existent for whatever it is they're requesting and they have no idea what money is actually worth to most people in the world.

>>2921311
$1200 a month for rent is fine wtf you are mad about. A work quota requirement is based it means you don't have to fight roommates over chores and shit since everyone knows what they're signing up for. I guarantee that place is better than paying 2k per month to some asshole landlord who will never fix anything and will force you to pay for repairs. The only issue is the loud parties that can probably get really annoying but if you bought a pair of industrial grade ear muffs like any sane person you'll be able to snooze through anything.

>>2921311


Can get you the same style of arrangement, 'for free. I'm serious.


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I've seen this pop up on /co/ few times and I honestly think it has a lot of potential to red pill normies.
Gaston is a popular, masculine man of the people. He's portrayed as a charismatic leader who organizes the effort to kill the Beast, who is depicted as a cruel noble elite. The fact that Gaston is French, that red is strongly associated with his character and the recent Disney prequel project about him would great potential.
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>>2921056
what if the villains in captain planet were actually good because they were advancing the productive forces and the planeteers were reactionary anprims who worship gaiaia

>>2921084
let him cook
by him i mean the planet

>>2920699
furries are revolutionary

>>2921084
Gaia was real tho

>>2921178
Krystal is literally a princess but whatever


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https://theworker.news/2026/09/24/mamdani-seeks-trumps-approval-for-nyc-real-estate-windfall-project/


>>New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and US President Donald Trump met at the mayor’s mansion on September 21 to discuss Mamdani’s plan for an expansive housing project atop the Sunnyside rail yard in Queens with federal support.

>>Trump made the planned visit before speaking at the United Nations General Assembly, where he threatened to “annihilate the Islamic Republic”.

>>The two spoke jovially, with Trump saying that Mamdani will be “hopefully, a really great mayor.” Mamdani announced that he and the president agreed to advance talks to a technical level to discuss carrying out the project.

>>According to the mayor’s office, the proposal entails building a $21 billion platform above the rail yard that would allow real estate monopolists to construct housing on the platform.

>>Mamdani claimed the project would lead to the creation of 12,000 housing units, and 30,000 jobs in the process.

>>The idea of housing above the rail yard has long been flirted with by NYC administrations for decades, given its prime location near the East River and Manhattan.

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I hate how slow history is

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>>2921276
>>because dialectics are false



You deserve to be sidelined, rendered inert, crippled by the sudden, vicious percussion of a Steyr AUG A1, a beast from the 80s, sleek, utterly decisive, and ruthlessly efficient, meant not just to wound, but to permanently dismantle the posture of complacency.

>>2921290
The monectic will eat you long before it eats itself

>>2921291

In struggle, martyrdom is the highest reward.

>>2921293
Or you can choose to stop being abrahamic


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