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Is Venezuela about to be fucking invaded?

>Venezuela mobilizes its militia after US says it’s deploying military forces to waters around Latin America:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/19/americas/venezuela-maduro-militia-us-military-deployment-intl-latam
>US destroyers head toward waters off Venezuela as Trump aims to pressure drug cartels:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-destroyers-maduro-drug-cartels-e33794ebc24d9031e536d132ce205b4c
>Donald Trump Deploys 3 Missile Destroyers: What to Know:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-missile-destroyers-venezuela-drug-cartels-2115786
>Proposed United States invasion of Venezuela:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_invasion_of_Venezuela
>Estados Unidos, “dispuesto a usar todo su poder” contra el narcotráfico desde Venezuela:
https://elpais.com/us/2025-08-19/estados-unidos-dispuesto-a-usar-todo-su-poder-contra-el-narcotrafico-desde-venezuela.html

I don't know if you've heard the news, but several US ships have sailed towards Venezuela's coast in order to "combat drug trafficking". Someone investigate the ships to see if they're old to see if they gonna false-flag Venezuela. I know that Nothing Ever Happens, but Trump has already put a price to Maduro's head and these news… I think something's cooking, something's sizzling.

Just making this thread in the case to discuss this, and to see if there are further happenings. I'm going to be honest, I'm getting bad vibes from this.
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<The Imperialist Offensive is Nothing New for the Bolivarian Revolution’: A Conversation with Ana Maldonado
>A Chavista organizer examines the US militarization of the Caribbean and the Bolivarian Revolution’s enduring resistance to imperial aggression.

>In recent months, Washington has stepped up its military presence in the Caribbean, sending warships, aircraft, and even a nuclear submarine to waters near Venezuela amid extrajudicial attacks on fishing vessels. For many, this new phase of aggression is all too familiar — part of a decades-long campaign of hybrid warfare designed to undermine Venezuela’s sovereignty.


>In this context, Cira Pascual Marquina spoke with Ana Maldonado, a sociologist, international relations coordinator for the Francisco de Miranda Front—a national Chavista movement—and member of the Venezuelan chapter of ALBA Movements. In this interview, Maldonado offers her perspective on how Venezuelans are experiencing the latest imperialist escalation, reflects on the country’s long resistance to hybrid war, and situates the current threat within the broader struggle for sovereignty in Latin America and the Caribbean.


https://venezuelanalysis.com/interviews/the-imperialist-offensive-is-nothing-new-for-the-bolivarian-revolution-a-conversation-with-ana-maldonado/

<Venezuela Denounces US-Backed Military Drills by Trinidad and Tobago as Hostile Provocation

>The information was released in a statement by Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez. In the statement, Venezuela reported it captured a mercenary group with direct information from the US intelligence agency, the CIA, and has determined that a false flag attack is being prepared from waters bordering Trinidad and Tobago or from Trinidadian or Venezuelan territory itself. It warned this could lead to a full-blown military confrontation against Venezuela.

>“We are not intimidated by military exercises or war cries. The Bolivarian National Armed Force (FANB) will remain alert and mobilized in perfect Popular-Military-Police unity in the
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>>2538494
>In the statement, Venezuela reported it captured a mercenary group with direct information from the US intelligence agency, the CIA, and has determined that a false flag attack is being prepared from waters bordering Trinidad and Tobago or from Trinidadian or Venezuelan territory itself.

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>>2514857
>A common opinion on Reddit is that all this bluster is about deterring Venezuela from attacking Guyana and that US doesn't care about Venezuelas oil because it's high sulfur. What's your opinion on this?

>>2538788
Even if they don't directly want to use the oil they can benefit from taking off the market, either way they don't want that oil to be reinvested in Venezuela

>>2536485
Based. Agreed.
I'll give you some guns and we'll wack em together.



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Besides Cockshott and maybe Richard Wolff, are there any good, academic, Marxist economists who are worth reading and can be used in debates to defend Marxism?
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>"It would take a long time to list what Lenin and Stalin understood about Marxism and what their like-minded colleagues did not, but we will touch on just one mere "trifle," which nevertheless seems extremely significant. We are talking about the connection between the fate of commodity production and socialism. A connection that is either long-term but temporary, or organically inherent in socialism and therefore ineradicable. If someone chooses the first answer, he is an undoubted Marxist; if he hesitates and is at a loss, he cannot yet be considered one; if he chooses the second answer, he is an opponent of Marxism. But it was precisely in this direction that the entire atmosphere among professional economists, created from the late 1950s and maintained until the late 1980s, when the collapse followed…" - Richard Kosolapov

>>2538643
>to marx, "labour-money" is NOT money, and its this item which he suggests be used in a communist society
If 'good proletarian money' has the same functions as 'bad porky money' there is no difference, lmao. It still has the function of an asset with absolute liquidity.

>>2538946
>articles of consumption are only use-values to marx
not if they're bought and sold

>>2538570
You are dead wrong. Communist China continuously publishes actual Communist textbooks. Not articles of pseuds espousing anti-Communism like cockshott. To read anti-Communist pseuds is harmful.

This book right here has more cognitive value than all of cockshot articles where he cries about Communism in China

>>2539023
so then you disagree with marx.
this would be easier if you just said it.
>>2539033
theyre not bought and sold, theyre redeemed, like a ticket to the theatre. you are free to disagree with marx's vision, but it must be stated so.



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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Tod den Deutschen.

Do Germans think they can successfully energy transition like EVs, solar and wind? By 2040, let's say?

leftypol bros, es ist vorbei. die alten zeiten der diskussionsforen sind over. ich kann alles in X machen. ich muss keine artikel lesen, weil grok den kerngedanken aus den jedem artikel herausfiltert. und wenn ich fragen habe und mit jemanden SOFORT über marxismus quatschen will, dann gibt mir grok die antwort. klar, man könnte einwenden, grok ist nicht die beste quelle für marxistische analysen. aber ist der durchschnittliche leftypoler besser? vielleicht vulgärer, aber das wars auch schon. die zeiten des alten internets sind vorbei. die zukunft ist post-click, post-human.

>>2539054
>twitter nutzen
kek

>>2538779
Consider jumping from a bridge.



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There's a division between:
1. The "based right", who supposedly fight for the white race and the cuckservative Christian society that da joos are trying to destroy Adolf Schicklgruber, Trump and Jesus are jews btw.
2. The «soy left», who support BLM, LGBT, feminism, and so on.

If you look objectively and remove all the propaganda and stereotypes, you can understand that the right is about licking the boyar's boot and persecuting those who are not part of their agenda.
The left, after all, is about some kind of utopia. The left supports the rights of the marginalized, such as gays and trans people, who don't fit into the right's agenda. Any negro will be smarter than a nazi unter, so racism is pointless and there's no need to support it (I think an artist from Africa and a European one will be closer to each other than an artist from Europe and a European office worker). The stereotypical feminist agenda of equal rights and responsibilities is much better than the t0rahditional family (even if this agenda is not reality). It's better than living in a world where women have no rights and are forced to stay at home, while men are forced to work and fight.

In general, if you see MSM coverage of a movement being discredited, take an objective look. Perhaps this movement is being deliberately created to discredit a good goals.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

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>>2539027
>Any negro will be smarter than a nazi unter(mensch)
HEY I WROTE THAT LONG AGO HERE. Did you memorize my post?

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>>2539028
> HEY I WROTE THAT LONG AGO HERE. Did you memorize my post?
No, it’s just great minds think alike

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In the two years since ChatGPT and DeepSeek were released, we have observed some significant quantitative leaps.

The use of commercial AI has allowed many people to bring their fantasies to reality through the use of "AI Slop." This has created a divide in the artistic sphere by sparking debates over AI art and whether it should be considered art.

AI has made accessing knowledge more convenient, as it can scan the internet to provide the information you desire. However, it has also made people less knowledgeable, as they become too lazy to do the research themselves.

There has also been an ongoing project to implement AI into the military-industrial complex, which has created Project Maven (or similar). This can only be described as a mechanized executioner.

Not to mention that AI systems can be of great importance to future socialist experiments, as we know that the quantitative leaps produced by AI can create qualitative changes.

In other words, this thread is about discussing the importance of AI in the future socialist experiment and what your opinion on it is.
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>>2538598
>The perfect way to eliminate the problem of excess labor, which is the fundamental problem that the modern ruling classes have.
and who's going to maintain their giant automated systems after we're gone? Them? doubt.

>>2538535
>what your opinion on it is
My opinion is that we do not need a weekly iteration of an 'AI' thread that in the end only is about LLM and people discussing a topic they have no technical expertise to discuss whatsoever.

>>2538535
>The use of commercial AI has allowed many people to bring their fantasies to reality through the use of "AI Slop."
It didn't "allow" anything, it just made the "what if what I make isn't goad enough" hurdle weirder by giving an instant option that will leave them unsatisfied, but then further paralyzed to take any other route of implementation because the AI can emulates things people consider their own beginner art to lack: rendering, backgrounds, greebles, etc… so the effort barrier is out of whack when it's an option.
>This has created a divide in the artistic sphere by sparking debates over AI art and whether it should be considered art.
On twitter, maybe. No one really debates that anymore. Art is just a form of communication, and AI is just a very vauge and indirect one that doesn't actually need a sender, and thus raises issues on the internet–a massive communication machine–that senderless and thus incommunicative communication is better at search engine optimization, and thus building the internet around search engines and supermassive, unmoderatable platforms that curate on the same principal as search engines was a mistake and we'll need to adapt to using an internet that doesn't have either.
>AI has made accessing knowledge more convenient
If you have to do the same research to vet it anyway then it's just a pointless step. All it did was make "it came to me in a dream" socially accepatble among twitterites.
>Not to mention that AI systems can be of great importance to future socialist experiments, as we know that the quantitative leaps produced by AI can create qualitative changes.
This paragraph does not convey information.

That said, machine learning has always been useful and will continue to be, there's a reason the USSR dabbled in it. AI, thoughever, is a marketing term and there's no place for commercial advertisement under socialism. So no, AI won't survive the bubble.

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if anything LLMs have become an obstacle to AI development, also we have an AI thread on tech. polite sage

>>2538932
>there's a reason the USSR dabbled in it
If all the libs promoting 'AI' did any research and realized how much of the groundwork for ML was done by commies, they'd dismiss this shit immediatly lol.

>Since machine learning can be used for weather forecasting stuff

Especially forecasting with ML is kinda iffy, imho, and most papers that conclude with 'our model outperforms tested method XYZ' seem not to hold what they promise when put into production and faced by new, unseen data.



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>>2537328
>its progress is relative. relative to what? to feudalism.
what has been progressed from feudalism? again, read chapter 32 of capital vol. 1. what is "progressive" is the alternation of property relations by systematic theft. what is "progressive" to marx is private monopoly.
>>2537644
>its not a wage, its a labour certificate(tm)!
>>2538407
so yes, it seems that no fun is allowed with you.
>>2538378
>The myth that Böhm-Bawerk “ended” Marx’s value theory is one of the oldest ghost stories in economics. What he actually did was misunderstand it…
what exactly does bawerk misunderstand?
>capital-value (money)
you surely mean commodity-value? capital is money "in motion" by the means of its self-expansion (M-C-M').
>Ironically, it was marginalists like Böhm-Bawerk who changed the rules by abandoning coherent theory when their own contradictions emerged.
such as…?
>neoclassical economics
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Fellas I need help as a 70 I.Q. layman. When an economy has a trade deficit, I'm told that the money flows into the country in the form of capital flows in order to ensure a balance of payments. In essence, what this means is that the outside world net exports capital to the country with a trade deficit. Now I'm reading from economics-understanders on Reddit that this is usually fine depending on the size of the deficit and nature of the capital inflows, but my personal hunch is that trade deficits are always bad and ideally you have a trade surplus or at least balanced trade. Am I right? And if so, why is my hunch right?

>>2538988
>fine depending on the size of the deficit and nature of the capital inflows,
usually people who say this defend the neoliberal deindustrialized structure of western capitalist economies. And while this type of structure can produce "growth" the issue is as this financialized country sits on its increasing money pile, the countries which engage in industrial development keep growing and getting stronger, industry wise. Until finally you reach the point where these industrialized powers can easily beat the shit out of the financial power. (industry creates actual fucking goods that can be used to destroy the opposing power). For example, this happened with britain vs spain, and now is happening with america vs china

>>2538998
That makes sense, thanks.

>>2538988
trade deficit = more imports than exports
trade surplus = more exports than imports
balanced trade = balance of imports and exports

it all depends on what your economic strategy is as to whether or not any of these are good things. for example, china builds its national wealth from a "mercantilist" strategy of creating trade surpluses by exporting commodities across the world in exchange for foreign debt (money). the downside to a trade surplus is that while youre making money, youre spending less, so you also consume less. its the same principle as spending, saving and investing. a trade deficit then has the opposite problem since youre spending all your money, and without any inverse trend to balance trade, you will simply run out eventually.



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I know.. I know..

It’s just that I’m going to keep posting on Trump’s truth social with Greta Thunberg communist propaganda is all.. Do not wait for leaders like him to save you. They will not. They have shown us who they are. Instead, take power back. Vote. Organize. Strike. Build. Speak. Act. Because the world does not need more billionaires pretending to be saviors — it needs ordinary people who refuse to be silent.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jokes aside Greta has done more things that "communists" for some years now… especially leftypol ones, those will circlejerk to hell but never do a single thing

why does she look like that

>>2538958
she comes from a royal family, so maybe incest

>>2538907
True, if she were born in the 30s or 40s she probably would’ve joined Che or Mao in combat



 

To achieve an international Socialist rule, we must ensure a full dedication to the party and it's objectives. Personal relationships that leech funds, attention, and dedication to the party must be destroyed by the individual internally to achieve an unwavering dedication to the proletariat. We've seen countless times in organizations that sexuality have led to the destruction of the individuals in power, Haz, Hasan, Maupin, MikefromPA, their downfall and degeneration? Falling from Marxist ideals in favor of dedication to sexual conquest. Our relationships to others should solely be dedicated to advancing the interests of the international proletariat, a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the return and advancement of the Comintern.
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>>2538736
Yeah, moffin prob takes estrogen too

>>2538611
I'm not advocating for castration, i'm advocating for having the will power to now let personal relationships or desires and influences, be it sexual, financial, or any other, having a party members faltering, or failing to have an unwavering dedication to the proletariat.

This is about a power over the mind and the natural instincts, having power over our class interest, this is what the party needs.

>>2538795
how am I a reactionary

The weak form works, i.e, being within bourgeois traditionalist respectability with the party form and class consciousness being the sole deviation.

Sex, drugs, and rock and roll are merely bread (soma) and circuses for the 20th and 21st centuries.

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>>2538736
> Leftypol mods are trccns confirmed. Kill yourselves



 

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Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
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>>2537213
What manfacturer is it? So I can never buy them
>>2535942
Belgian? If I were half belgian I would have stayed there.
>>2535947
>>2535972
Rent free out of three, with some random nonsense on top.

>>2538026
Bernie lost. I know shocking your dog hasn't helped gain favour by the masses but you gotta accept that

>>2538023
>I literally don't give a shit.
you finally went full me ne frego
congrats

>>2535903
Friendly reminder that while the sacking of Rome by Visigoths in 410 CE was felt as an apocalyptic catastrophe by contemporaries, the actual final end of the [Western] Roman Empire 65 years later… was not even noticed by the majority of the people who had lived on its territories. They just thought they are having yet another normal emperor succesion crisis and some average barbarian uprisings. Then the crisis went on for generations, then centuries, then, when Charlemagne finally becames Emperor… turns out most people already forgot how to speak Latin and the Senate building is, somehow, a church now.

…I think that 9/11 hijackers were the "Visigoths" of the USAmerican empire.



 

Uno si assenta per qualche mese e il filo più importante di tutti scompare… Roba da matti!

Non ho proprio calcolato questa tavola più o meno dal periodo dell'impresa di Luigi Mangione e ho ricominciato a buttarci un occhio solo da una settimana o due. Vediamo un po' che ne viene fuori stavolta.
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la capitale della Sinistra Progressista™


>>2534760
For ye anglos:
Lombardy is finishing off public healthcare.
The hospitals will be able to stipulate private contracts with insurances to give priority access to their clients.

>>2520283
Milano? Ma da quando?

>>2534763
Da quando hanno iniziato gente legata al PD



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