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Russia is at fault here, somehow

>>2565821
Putin is weaponizing rats, just like the chinks did with the black plague.

>>2565823
>chinks
Time to go back.

>>2565814
>when radar detects
So they keep radars on all the time?

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>>2565821
comrade rat taking care of the Fr*nch problem



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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2565799
it's not nonsense. what does trump want to do? reindustrialize! but what is his other goal? keep the dollar strong. the two goals are impossible together. you can't bring the jobs back, because burgers work for higher wages. People say this makes burgers spoiled, but they also pay higher prices. US currency is hegemonic because it is the world reserve currency. Burgers CAPITALISTS pay lower prices for importing commodities, but then they resell it at higher prices to american workers. The american worker's wage will buy more outside of america, but doesn't buy much inside america. if you tried to bring back industry to america, you would have to lower wages to be competitive with 2nd and 3rd world countries, which would lead to class struggle and riots. the burger porky doesn't want that. The other option is to make the burger currency weaker. world reserve currency status depends on burger reich racking up trade deficit, printing money, inflating currency over time, and importing more commodities than it exports. currency hegemony would end if you brought back jobs, but currency hegemony will also end anyway because inflation will eventually cause burger population average wage to go below subsistence, which will cause class struggle and riots. class struggle and riots is in burger future either way. only way out is for burgers to start big war, but big war requires draft, and bringing back burger draft will result in class struggle and riots. class struggle and riots is burger reich future no matter what option burger ruling class takes. reindustrialization will be good for burger reich but will kill US currency hegemony and cheap imports, which is bad for burger porky. burger porky outsourced to china, but now china is more developed than burger in many regards, and is even catching up in GDP PPP which porky fetishizes the most as an important metric.

>>2565768
You seemingly dont understand how national debt works. AmeriKKKan national debt is owed to capitalist parasites you cry about, mostly amerikkkan ones. Repudiating national debt would mean expropriating their bonds.

>>2565807
I don't think this solves the underlying issue but okay, do it

>>2565806
>you can't bring the jobs back, because burgers work for higher wages.
>you would have to lower wages to be competitive with 2nd and 3rd world countries,

You can bring jobs back if you automate enough. Higher end American stuff is still good, but the amount of parasites make it worse and worse for them.

Burger currency abroad =/= burger currency at home. Two systems are essentially insulated from each other. Comparing dollar wages is fucking stupid, like, a couple of years back Japan had yen devalued, "wiping out" what, 40% of their GDP and wages? What, do you think they've had holodomor happen to them? Nah, nothing of the like happened.

Burger currency abroad is popular because foreign exporters prefer USD denominated bonds because of inflation differences. Japanese Yen was popular for a while because it had great inflation compared to other currencies. This is one of the reasons why Westoid economists jerk off to inflation so much, and laugh at Russia and the like for having high inflation - economists are stupid enough to think that the whole world works just like US inner market, lol

>US currency is hegemonic because it is the world reserve currency.


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>>2565819
>You can bring jobs back if you automate enough.
Wrong. Automation eliminates jobs. Read marx
>Burger currency abroad =/= burger currency at home. Two systems are essentially insulated from each other.
Wrong. AmeriKKKans have no dual circulation because all wealth they consume is stolen from third world.

The number one thing that makes many marxists seem like pseuds with no credibility is trying to handwave away the world we live in.
Why aren't you doing anything to organize? Well, our economy is mostly services, and service workers aren't real proletarians. Capitalists outsourced all the REAL jobs, so now I'm going to outsource responsibility for the revolution.

Give me the naive people who want to form a communist ""union"" of pornographic commission artists any day.



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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Hey German anons, I have a question for you.
I know that the Nazis tried to eradicate usage of Fraktur and Sütterlin writing styles that were traditional to Germany and Austria, and wanted only Antiqua-type writing to be used.

Can most modern Germans still read Fraktur and/or Sütterlin text?
If not, doesn't that make reading stuff written pre-1930s difficult for you? That must make learning about history from first hand sources / reading documents from great-grandparents frustrating…

Was there any attempt by any political movements, be they Communist, or any other ideology, to revitalise Fraktur or Sütterlin for modern use?
Are such writing styles connected to any particular ideologies?

Sorry for forcing you to witness my autism but since I learnt that you used to use to write so differently in style to the rest of Europe, I can't stop thinking about these questions…
I personally think it'd be cool if German leftists revived Fraktur and Sütterlin writing as a fuck you to the Nazis who tried to eradicate them.

>>2565769
If you are not completely retarded and think the old s is an f it should be no problem for like 80% of the population

>>2565769
>Are such writing styles connected to any particular ideologies?
In practice most blackletter is used in faux-medieval pastiche and by weirdos on the internet. Ironically Sütterlin is strongly associated with NS Germany now, because it only started being phased out when they were already at war and the lettering continued to be used in a lot of iconic Nazi art. People also tend to notice Antiqua writing less than that weird writing style that went out of use after the war, so it's a case of selective memory more than anything.
>>2565777
They're hard to differentiate on low-resolution scans of historical documents though. So are capital K and R.

>>2565769
Kurrentschrift has been taught at schools here at least till the 60s-70s, so most people today still can write or read it, because of their parents. Fraktur on the other hand is pretty much dead. You may find it on some beer cans, but thats it. We can read Fraktur, but not as good as Kurrentschrift and reading lots of Fraktur is a pain the ass. Simce many uneducated right wingers use Fraktur for their memes, you wont be able to make it a lefty thing. People will just think you're right wing.

>>2565769
Fraktur is not that hard to read. It is still being used for e.g. restaurant signs in villages and towns, labels for "traditional" stuff e.g. local traditional food products, music and design and most importantly, a lot of street signs are in Fraktur still. Sütterlin is a different thing, it's much harder to read plus it was in use for only a very short time. Most historic official documents, construction blueprints etc. are written in Kurrent.
i'm not aware of any political attempts to get rid of mainly using Latin writing in favour of returning to German letters. Fraktur is not connected to a specific ideology, both left and right may use it occasionally on leaflets, banners etc.
>so differently in style to the rest of Europe
Well from a modern and/or Romance/Anglo-Saxon perspective certainly. However Fraktur developed from Carolingian and Gothic letters, historically it was used in Germanic speaking countries i.e. DACH as well as in Scandinavia and the Baltics from Hanse times up until the late 19th century. Some Slavs prefer their own letters which are related to Greece/Byzantium iirc over Latin in daily life to this day.



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Historically speaking how were judeochristian westoids so successful at divide and conquer to the point they managed to literally invent meme ethnicities to serve as compradors and fifth columnists in the places they wanted to colonize?
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>>2564896
And so is Islam

>>2565059
Islamic, christian and jewish civilisations are part of the one same Roman Civilisation. Rome isn't more western then it's middle eastern.

>>2564882
>Historically speaking how were judeochristian westoids so successful at divide and conquer
by introducing your people to mia khalifa

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>>2564896
abrahamism must be abolished

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>>2564928
"United" states on the even of Chinese conquest, 2025



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Alienation is not some fucking moral crisis of humanity it's literally just how wage labor and capital accumulation work. Marxist humanists can't admit that because they keep putting "the human" at the center of everything instead of looking at the material setup that creates it.
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>>2561765
>"Alienation" has several meanings
Alienation is a purely economic phenomena, which has social implications. You are irresponsible with your words.

It's a legal term, from which the "moral crisis" proceeds

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Alien nation? That's what we're gonna be if we don't build that wall!

alien nation.

think about that.

>>2561611
>Alienation is not some fucking moral crisis of humanity
nobody with any marxist background, humanist or otherwise, says that
stop fighting imaginary enemies in your head



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Is a lemonade stand in the middle of the desert doing imperialism when they sell hydration to weary travelers if they are the only one around?

>>2565772
china is not imperialist yet they just want to be imperialist (inwade smol country on tiewon)

>>2565774
taiwan is basically what if all the confederates fled to puerto rico after the american civil war and called themselves Dixie Rico. Nobody should be obligated to take that seriously.

>>2565786
Puerto Rico was not in the USA until decades after the Civil War.

>>2565796
You get the point uygha.

But ok, Taiwan is basically what if all the Cuomintang fled to Staten Island after the New York civil war and called themselves the real New York government. Nobody should be obligated to take that seriously.



 

New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.
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>>2558411
yeah i rewatched that one and he says that towards the end, but you gotta admit that's one clickbaity thumbnail


>>2565789
……..unexpected lol

I was already wondering what leftypol thought of him. Hopefully you aren‘t getting your panties in a bunch just because not all that he says is favorable to the USSR and Lenin.



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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2564767
>Why are you such bootlickers?
I gotta have a strong state
>>2564682
see pdfsrel

>>2564682
>>2564854
as for my commentary, they all dance around the issue that joint production can lead to negative values. interestingly you can have negative surplus value and positive profit
joint production is "dealt" with in national accounts by aggregation. this forces everything into a square Leontief matrix where you only get positive values

>>2562210
Introducing Fixed Prices

What if instead of a bidding for resources with variable-price bids, the bids must be done at fixed prices? I very strongly feel that a resource-allocation system needs to have some flexibility. Imagine only one pseudo-firm wants some resource, but doesn't have the play-money. Isn't that a very silly situation? If the prices are fixed, it should be possible and indeed trivial for that pseudo-firm's spending to exceed its budget to get the resource.

What is the purpose of the budgets? To give the pseudo-firms power to access resources. If society decides to give pseudo-firm A twice the budget society gives to pseudo-firm B for the next period, our working assumption is that society evaluates what A will do as more important than what B will do (even though the two decisions might be made by two different committees without a single person being a member of both). If we have to state any sort of ratio of importance here, we assume that what pseudo-firm A will do is deemed as twice as important by society compared to B. (I'm assuming here A and B are in the same tier. Like in the system with flexible prices, we can have lexicographic tiers of importance for the pseudo-firms, so that a lower tier only gets the leftovers from the higher tiers.)

Suppose the spending period isn't over yet so no new budgets are yet available, but both pseudo-firms are already out of play-money for accessing resources. They are going into minus. I'm using this phrasing for a reason. I'm NOT saying they are "going into debt", because they won't have to pay back anything. Any pseudo-firm's play-money account, whether positive or negative, gets reset to zero at regular intervals and it gets a new budget.

Suppose there is a resource that nobody is bidding for except A and B, each asking for all of it. (Despite using fixed prices here, I'm still using the term "bids", because like with variable-price bidding the requests are not instantly approved, instead we wait for a while till bids are closed; and if the demand exceeds what's in stock, we allocate the stuff in a way that follows a simple rule that has nothing to do with the order in which the bids arrived.) Suppose both A and B are in minus. Again, it is clear that the resource should be assigned despitPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2564859
>We can even split up the same resource and make available some amount of it in each system
I've been thinking along these lines. the plan amounts to a set of entitlements to resources. beyond the plan we could have spending money, but firms choosing to use their money instead of plan allocation get lower priority. for this to work we also need firms to produce enough of a surplus that such spontaneous orders can be accommodated. in other words we should plan for a bit of an excess

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How can someone with so little power inside Russia be sitting next to the God-Emperor of People's Republic of China?
Is Zyuganov actually more powerful than it seems?
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>>2564702
They don't even vet parties before asking them to come because they're that confident. Straight up CIA fronts like Haz's ACP showed up.

>>2565270
Or maybe they are not a CIA asset?

China does this all the time with international communist/socialist parties, besides the russian communist party specifically is allied to Putin

>>2565270
China likes anyone who will suck up to them, Zyuganov is a great Russian chauvinist who regrets the USSR time because "Russia was bigger and most powerful then", Russia yeah, not the union. He also says the struggle between civilizations replaced class struggle which is revisionist and fascist.
So it's not surprising they would say hello to CIA burger nazbols

>>2564686
>le handshake meme, but good this time



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The crackdown on immigration in the west has the potential to be a good thing for revolutionary and anti-imperialist states, because it will prevent both brain drain and loss of labor forces. The downside is that these countries won't be able to expel the reactionary elements that would otherwise go to the west, especially the US.
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>>2564805
Yes, precisely.

no

This is why I think Trump winning was a good thing btw, he basically accelerated the end of American hegemony by several years

>>2565699
And this is only the start of his term, Comrade Nationbuilder will do more for us yet!

>>2564787
Is Aryan some kind of Asian because she looks like a Chinese chick that dyed her hair blond



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