/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2785617
My thoughts exactly.

>>2785642
was waiting for someone to post this gem

>>2785642
Well thankfully it did happen

>>2785635
There are two races, Cockroach and Hutus.

Wtf is the point of this thread when this pic settles it

More than 50% of americans have something to lose but their chains case closed

>>2785350
This must go hard if you're fucking stupid.

>>2785354
>>2785350
Jewish negro posts

>>2785070
nta…

>>2785423
Oops didn't mean to hit post yet. Liberalism is basically just a fancy garb worn around naked capitalist exploitation. There's no such thing as an actual free market. I mean you criticise the deranged nature of privatisation in this country which is fair enough but how could say 'true' free market railways for example work? Whoever owns the railway and the stations has absolute authority over pricing, there can't be any actual market competition unless you're proposing there should be 10 different railway stations/railway lines in each city, and how would that possibly work? The government needs to be involved as the arbiter in some way, either over an actual state system or a fake psuedo privatised one like we have today.

>>2785667
i mean whatever they think is really irrelevant, they are opportunists and certainly like the govts that came before them but ultimately they will believe whatever it is their lumpen base believes in

>>2785712
>ultimately they will believe whatever it is their lumpen base believes in

uh no. They might say they do but that's not the same thing. Politicians tell the proles what to think not the other way round.

>>2785714
if you want to stay constantly appealing to them, then you will have to become them in some way, they're not hyper-intelligent prolewranglers, they're middle aged men (mostly) who benefit from deception and co-opting from people like tommy robinson and the other lumpens

>>2785720
I'm sure the people involved in Reform are sincerely right wing but that doesn't at all mean they believe the simple, borderline retarded 'ate pakis' shit that their voters do. Maybe some of their MPs/staff etc do but by and large? Absolutely not. Politics are shaped by class interests, Farage does not at all have the same material interests as the average Reform voter.

>>2785616
I don't disagree with you in the main anon, I don't think it was some master stroke of tactical genius or anything, or some "necessary evil". It was merely one of the multitude of avenues the soviet union had at its disposal in preparation for the inevitable conflict, which they all knew was coming.

I do think the soviets did have in mind that they would be invaded by germany eventually and were working with that in mind. A "landgrab" to take land that will be torn up in defensive warfare in the near future seems illogical to me, it's not like you can do anything with it except prepare for said warfare. The only reason to bother is because of the strategic benefit it grants, which is what I think the soviets were doing.

I really don't think we can assume the war would have been prevented without the pact, you are now in your indignation about it, giving it more importance than I ever have. It would have been suicidal for the soviets to assume war with germany could be prevented by that point.

Again, I don't think the MR pact was some masterful gambit. It was simply a pragmatic choice to make given the information available at the time. That's why it's dumb to get all worked up about it

Stalin should have just prayed instead of signing MR. Us ultras in the ICP would just pray for a spontaneous German revolution and not do anything to try and push Germany westward

>>2785334
cheeky

>>2785334
>if we just kill enough people, surely it'll work just this time!
this method has literally never worked, there's a reason why the soviet union "degenerated" so rapidly, if say even half as many people were purged, i bet the soviet union would still be alive, since you'd still have competent members of government who are not opportunists, falsifiers, and rats, because that's exactly what the purges did

Same way you avoid being purged after a fascist revolution or any other flavor of authoritarianism - blend in with everyone else, always do as you are told, and keep your mouth shut.

>>2672346
obligatory

>Maduro Is Gone, and the Purge Has Begun
>The successor to Venezuela’s captured President Nicolás Maduro is purging the people who kept him in power. -NEW YORK TIMES

U.S. Special Forces brought down President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela swiftly and publicly.

Now, the people who kept him in power are being purged gradually and inconspicuously. Some have been fired or detained, and others are anxiously looking over their shoulders, worried they might be next.

Oligarchs close to Mr. Maduro’s family have been snatched from their homes. His political allies have been summarily removed from their posts. His relatives have been sidelined from business deals and barred from media appearances.

The housecleaning is being carried out by Mr. Maduro’s former vice president, Delcy Rodríguez, who is running the country under instructions from the Trump administration. The detentions and leadership purges have unfolded without public explanation, but often with the approval — and sometimes at the urging — of the White House, according to people close to Ms. Rodríguez’s government.

After Mr. Maduro was dragged off in January to a New York jail, Ms. Rodríguez presented herself as a reluctant and temporary stand-in for a fallen leader, denouncing his capture as an illegal attack on her country.

The overhaul of national leadership, combined with sweeping new laws and her alliance with President Trump, is reshaping Venezuela and its management of one of the planet’s largest oil reserves, just as the world grapples with the energy turmoil caused by war in the Middle East.

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>>2785659
Part 2

Ms. Rodríguez’s caretaker post began hours after Mr. Maduro’s capture, on Jan. 3, with a fiery speech denouncing U.S. aggression. A week later, Ms. Rodríguez led a retinue of power brokers and Cuban officials to commemorate dozens of Cuban and Venezuelan servicemen who died in the American attack.

“We are not handing down a legacy of traitors and cowards,” Ms. Rodríguez said in a televised speech intended to project unity.

Most of those by her side that day have since been cast aside.

Mr. Maduro’s longest-serving minister, Gen. Vladimir Padrino López, was fired as defense minister in March and later given a much less important post running agriculture. Mr. Maduro’s son, Nicolás Maduro Guerra, and a son of Ms. Flores, Yosser Gavidia Flores, have been sidelined from lucrative business deals with the state, according to government insiders.

Mr. Maduro’s attorney general, Tarek William Saab, was fired, given a consolation post, and then fired again. Camilla Fabri, Mr. Maduro’s immigration envoy, lost her post. Days later, her husband was detained.

And then there’s Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodríguez. Since attending Ms. Rodríguez’s speech, he has watched his country’s decades-long alliance with Venezuela unravel in weeks.

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>>2785660
Hugo chavez strongly hated delcy

Delcy sold out

who would win?

>>2785661
I mean Grisha is one of the world's top players and Gunther is apparently having an ukrainian represent him because he's a boomer who only briefly played the game for memes

>>2785644
Hugo Chávez had always despised delcy Rodriguez

>>2785663
Has anyone claimed having a Ukrainian play Grisha is good value for NATO yet? What kind of energy drink givas has the player been promised?

>>2785663
True but it's going to be 7v1, that puts Grisha at a big disadvantage

>>2785634
Mao was China’s epstein, he fucked 12 year old red guards and gave them HPV

>>2785630
>if x, then
>I’m a proud reactionary
no need for unnecessary conditionals

>>2785628
It's not anti party or it would not be allowed to be published. The author is a professor in Beijing, are you saying the CPC allows anti party professors to freely disseminate anti party theory? The party allows for an open and scientific discussion and investigation of marxism, socialism and the stages thereof, within limits of course.

My critique of the image is that of course the real world doesn't fit so neatly into these little boxes with rigid and defined categories and traits, but overall it does a good job of illustrating how these phases could be considered

>>2785653
It is a conditional, why should anyone want to be a socialist if socialism has all the se anti human structures like money, capital, markets, and the firm?
>but deh winnin
For now, they’ll decline and that decline is already starting, people in China don’t want kids

>>2785232
So you're saying like, that a new middle strata always becomes the next ruling class instead of creating a 1 class society or a or 0 class society? That's like zeno's paradox but with classes instead of distance.

>>2785232
Well of course you can't abolish exploitation why would anyone be hired just to produce enough to support themselves. But under communism society exploits you instead of capitalists.

>>2784767
This tbh, at least when you've seized state power your guy has something to boast about. Otherwise it's like uhhhhh our guy has like uhhhh really good ideas or smt

>>2785026
>the ACP is more akin to blackhammer than the avakian RCP
it's way more akin to lyndon larouche.

How the fuck is Avakian still alive?

We need to organise cagefight between Haz and Avakian

>>2744799
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>>2785026
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>>2785336
Not a single western leftist group has ever come close to the level of political recognition the ACP has achieved. Most of them have floundered in academia. Comparing Haz and Hinkle to those groups is an insult, they’re leading the revolution

>>2785368
>Peak 3rd world bourgeois optics over reality.
I'll show you, I'm going to transition into a right-wing Hindu guy who makes badass music videos like the Spartans in 300.

>>2785058
Those colombian groups are run like businesses and mafias rather than revolutionary orgs, don't get me wrong for random peasants it's much more preferable to be under their thumb than the fascist paramilitaries but I wouldn't put much hope in them.

>>2785449
Naxal gangs were run exactly like that, it depends on Levi (extortion). Police, CRPF and politicians also used to get cut from this extortion money. The naxal cadre are more like employees but you can understand how poorly they were paid from the fact that normal naxal cadres are more than happy to hop on to a job which pays them INR 15k a month.

>>2784409
I’ve been saying this for over two years now, the Naxal movement was already dead or dying. But instead of engaging with that reality, you kept dismissing me as a defeatist. The point isn’t that revolution itself is dead, it’s that we can’t keep treating che's guerrilla warfare like some kind of sacred doctrine. That approach has been flawed and has led to the destruction of many leftist movements. At this point, I’m almost convinced it was even promoted by the CIA.