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>Iranians want their own Deng Xiaoping, writes Vali Nasr

>There is a growing chorus arguing that Iran’s nuclear doctrine has been wrong all along and must now change. Since 2003 Iran has been open about its pursuit of a nuclear programme while also disavowing nuclear weapons. Khamenei even issued a religious fatwa banning them. Iran engaged in negotiations and collaborated with the un nuclear watchdog, but the West was never convinced that Iran’s aims were peaceful. Iran expected its expanding nuclear programme to force America to discuss lifting sanctions. But nuclear leverage only unnerved the West and led to more sanctions. The billions that Iran has invested in the programme have not produced economic dividends; instead the costs to the country of its nuclear ambitions have steadily mounted.


>Foreign-policy hawks, along with many moderates, argue that Iran must now do what it should have done from the outset: build nuclear weapons in secret following the examples of India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s grandson, Hassan Khomeini, a popular and influential moderate voice, argues that only nuclear weapons will address Iran’s deterrence needs. Senior clerics in Qom, too, are calling on Khamenei to change his fatwa against nuclear weapons. Fearful of another war and angry at the humiliation Iran has suffered, ordinary Iranians, including many among the ranks of freedom-loving opposition, also favour this approach.

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>>2589439
>irrelevant clowns
Actually, I like the story of the Left-Kuomintang.

>>2589442
how is that analogous to Deng? China had nukes before Deng. Not that I have any problem with Deng, I just don't see the connection.

ICE operation have scaled down in scope and violence. Mainly thanks to the resistance of the communities.

This is proof that billions of dollars spent in weapons and mercenaries can be countered through solidarity and popular support.

>>2589773
There has been no victory yet.



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>>2586320
not sure about that, might as well just have been killed after the initial separation (families were deliberately separated and worked in different parts of the country, or in mobile brigades all across it), or reunited after a while.
>vidrel for cambodian live tv show reuniting families after the dust settled down

>>2586345
trve which is why i supposed they might be just country children however child soldiers were such a common occurrence at the time

>>2586356
i suppose he meant its survival only, i agree the wording is pretty poor if that's what he wanted to convey
also a somewhat relevant paper:
>The monastic order in Cambodia has been divided into two fraternities (nikaya) since 1855 when King Norodom imported the newly-formed Thommayut (dhamayutika nikaya) from Thailand through the agency of Maha Pan, a Khmer monk belonging to King Mongkut’s spiritual lineage. Norodom subsequently had Wat Botum Vaddey constructed, according to the demarcation ritual (nadisima) of the newly formed order, adjacent to the new royal palace in Phnom Penh as the headquarters of the new order and Maha Pan was subsequently installed as its sanghareach (Meas Yang 1978, 38).
>In Thailand the introduction of the new order had passed off without opposition. This was not the case in Cambodia where frequent skirmishes between Mohanikay and Thommayut monks seem to have occurred with some regularity (Bizot 1976, 9). The influence of the colonial power may have been a factor here since the French regarded the Mohanikay, particularly those belonging to its reformed wing, to exercise a beneficial influence on the populace and towards the protectorate. Thommayut monks, on the other hand, were regarded as potentially intransigent, not least because it was thought that they owed their allegiance to the Thai court (Forest 1980, 143).
>There is little to distinguish the two orders in terms of doctrine yet they disagree over the interpretationPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>A female Khmer Rouge fighter or 'mit naree' [literally "comrade young-woman" iirc] carries a Kalashnikov AK-47 assault rifle in the jungle of western Cambodia, 15th February 1981. (Photo by Alex Bowie/Getty Images)

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS: THE KHMER ROUGE AND THE PROBLEM OF WESTERN "HISTORY"

So you've been reading the bourgeois press again. You've consumed the "documentaries," the "memoirs," the "historical consensus." You think you know about Democratic Kampuchea. You have been given a fairy tale of "evil" and "madness," a cartoon for liberal babies to suckle on. Let us scrape the imperialist glaze from your eyes and examine the material reality.

What was Democratic Kampuchea?
It was the ultimate expression of Year Zero. Not as a slur, but as a material necessity. For centuries, the Khmer people were bled white by feudal monarchs, then by French colonizers who turned their country into a plantation, then by American bombers who turned it into a crater. The very social fabric was saturated with feudalism, colonialism, and comprador capitalism. You cannot perform surgery with a butter knife. To build socialism, the old society must be smashed. Totally. Irrevocably. The city, a site of parasitic profiteering and colonial decadence, had to be dissolved. The peasantry, the only uncorrupted revolutionary class, became the base. This was not "madness." This was radical decolonization of the mind and soil.

But the cities were emptied!
Yes. Based. The city is a tumor. Phnom Penh in 1975 was a festering slum of refugees, profiteers, CIA agents, and the lumpen scum of a destroyed society. To keep it running would have meant begging the imperialists for food, becoming a neocolonial puppet state like the ones you defend when you cry about "Vietnam." The urban population was relocated to the countryside to participate in the great project of agrarian transformation. Were there logistical failures? Possibly. But consider the context: a country bombed back to the stone age, with zero infrastructure, facing immediate famine and imperialist blockade. The alternative was to let the revolution die in a starving city. Revolution is not a dinner party.

But the executions! The Tuol Sleng!
S-21 was a security apparatus. Do you think revolution is a game? Do you think the CIA, the KGB, the Vietnamese revisionists, and the feudal remnants were just going to allow the world's most radical experiment to proceed? The revolution was besieged from day one. Internal enemies, saboteurs, and agents provocateurs were a material fact. Was every accusation correct? In the fog of revolutionary defense, perhaps not. But to focus on the security measures Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2588832
Who are you talking to?

>>2588869
To target a specific audience, in a place like this, is unproductive. Angkar is speaking to everyone that has attentive ears to hear her and clear-sighted eyes to witness her red truth.

>>2588832
i agree with most of these conclusions, however i would consider it necessary to clarify some of the premises made here:
>It was the ultimate expression of Year Zero. Not as a slur, but as a material necessity.
<Year Zero
is a falsification and the CPK never used that term - not in any speeches, not in any written material distributed both on the outside and the inside (internal party materials, party print magazines (of which there were several at the same time) distributed throughout the country, etc)

>Yes. Based. The city is a tumor.

the city as a concept is not, but PP at the time quite literally was a tumor on the body of kampuchea festering with (petite) bourgeois agents, swollen from refugees fleeing the widespread US bombings. however CPK was not opposed to cities at large and had projects of rebuilding several ones, with hopes of repopulating them after they solved the immediate food supply problem

>S-21, Tuol Sleng

was only one of the Security Prisons, other Security Prisons operated throughout the country both before and after the revolution

maybe it's a good idea to make a post on /edu/ addressing some of the common misconceptions about Communist Party of Kampuchea which are constantly parroted by leftists (including on /leftypol/ at large), however i'm not sure how to go about this



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TOMORROW NOTHING HAPPENS
CHILE ELECTION 2025
<The spectre of nothing is haunting America
The candidate of the communist party who is watering down to appeal to milder socialdemocrats and others is leading the polls. Next to her are 3 rightwingers, all bastard sons of Bolso and Drumpf
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>>2589332
>to ban the communist party.
The chilean "communist" party is so fucking cringe and opportunistic that this may be a good thing. Wont happen tho, KACO (Kast always cucks out).

>>2589362
No it's not a "good" thing.

how did boric fail so massively that the left is likely to not even get 40% of the vote?

>>2589698
>fail
the center left helping the right get stronger is a feature not a bug

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>>2589703
yeah remember when boric and his acolytes saved piñera's ass during the 2019 riots? lmfao the middle class is the same everywhere falling for it every time



 

I’m honestly curious to know what exactly makes the PMC (university professors, doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, artists, those types of people) adhere to the belief system they do. Namely, the psychology behind what’s often termed as “petit-bourgeois radicalism.”

I recently read through two of Caleb Maupin’s books (The American Years of Lead and the one on Trotsky and the Neocons). Maupin asserts that intellectual elites (PMC) are heavily into salon culture and edgy things that have aristocratic connotations. For instance, intellectual elites (PMC) are the ones who hold an overly-romantic view of revolution and romanticize terrorism and political violence. They’re the ones that conjure up images of a big apocalyptic revolution similar to the Christian rapture whereby every little aspect of the existing society is destroyed. He also heavily emphasized that the PMC hates the genuine working/class, because they see them as a threat to their power, so they deliberately manipulate working-class movements in order to offset and eventually dissolve them. Plus, they love sexual promiscuity and use “leftism” in order to promote it.

Last night, I watched a video on Sublation Media between Doug Alain and Chris Cutrone. Cutrone made the point that the PMC romanticize terrorism, mass destruction involving killing and raping, and the “noble death” because the PMC are “gangsters.” Not gangsters the way the ultra-rich capitalists are, but gangsters nonetheless.

My understanding is, intellectual elites love these things like violence and terror for the exact same reason they love modern “art” like Jackson Pollock and jazz and rap “music”: it’s all deeply irrational. They reject historical progress, favour the lumpen and those on the margins of society over the genuine proletariat, and promote destruction because they hate rationality. All of the things they promote as “leftism” are actually deeply aristocratic values: it’s the aristocracy that loves violence, sexual indulgence and a rejection of logic and linear time. I see it like this: intellectual elites, being Nietzscheans at heart, hate rationality and linear progress because they see those things as boxes that limit their ability to indulge, but also the fact that they already have their privileged positions and don’t need a proletarian revolution to have their basic needs met. In fact, a proletarian revolution would mean they lose their privileges and end up working in the fields.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>My understanding is, intellectual elites love these things like violence and terror for the exact same reason they love modern “art” like Jackson Pollock and jazz and rap “music”: it’s all deeply irrational.
Missed this gem.
One of the issues with touching grass is coming back to this place and realizing it's a shithole filled with freaks.

>>2586807
Most working-class people want a peaceful revolution.

>>2583987
>Ehhh I think it’s silly to refer to jazz and rap music in quotation marks—they’re music too, not any lesser cause it ain’t Bach or whatever.

>>2583978
Art doesn't have to be socialist realism and music doesn't have to be military anthems. Leftists are as bad as STEMfags when it comes to art criticism. Pollock was a GENIUS and sometimes paint-splat art really ties the room together.

>>2589628
You're retarded my dude



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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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>>2535234
French leftists are morons who will tell me that 'MiLlIonS wErE iN tHe StReEtS", yeah and what did that ever do?
La France Insoumise is russophobic, pro-EU, pro-NATO anti-communist

Melenchon used to help jews flee the Soviet Union in the 80s
Melenchon used to undermine the communist-led CGT by promoting trotskyist anti-communist parallel syndicates before 1990

Fuck all the LFI bootlickers in the French thread of leftypol

oN bLoQuE tOuT
cRiNgE nAtiOnAlIsTe dEteCtE

>>2589569
inb4 La France Insoumise defends the rights of the lumpen-pimps to exploit and beat up the sluts

>>2589569
>Far-right calling for brothels workers coop with a prostitution ban outside of brothels
>Mélenchon quiet on the subject because there alot of leftists wanting to fully legalize prostitution but also alot of abolitionnists
LFI is so cooked if it's paralyzed and divided on basic social subjects like that. The RN will spend 2026 showing itself as the party of the workers and outwoke LFI whenever it can.

Melenchon is a true maoist living rent FREE in the brain of millions of hitlerites

>>2589569
Sex work positive coop "socialism" bros, we are so back



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Has anyone else been dismayed by how like 99% of the left these days is fanatically pro-Copyright/IP, reporting people for IP "piracy" and whining about Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?
>"Nooo my giant media companies and slop artists deserve to have a capitalist monopoly on thoughts and ideas for literally 150 years NOOOOOOOO"
Anyway, any Marxist who is against mass smart automation through AI should hand in their Marxist membership card.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch08.htm
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>>2588991
>"I have moral rights over my individual creative work"
Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Also this is ridiculous, artists should read Hegel and Marx then.

>>2589275
>Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Ultimately because you exist in a social context and have to coexist with other human beings by affording them a modicum of respect and common decency. If you want to make edits of people's OCs being put up against the wall by the Cheka nobody can realistically stop you - but they can ostracize you from their social group. If you've got a brain and still can't control your compulsion to do things that piss other people off, you'll appreciate that this is the sort of thing you should do anonymously rather than demanding everyone else accept your social faux pas as moral because there's nothing in Das Kapital about not acting like a moron on the internet.

I do not believe you have seriously read either. You are posturing here for precisely the same socially motivated reasons: "look at me, I am virtuous, I read the approved communist thinkers." "The approved communist thinkers agree that my social status should be elevated and that of artists lowered.", well, no sell. Hegel and Marx would think you are an antisocial little dork.

>>2588268
>>2588031
>99% of the left
idk where you got this statistic from but yes it's annoying

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>>2588477
>ai is bad because it's controlled exclusively by reactionaries so yeah everything should be done to hinder its development

It is uncommon in human history for a technology to be destroyed or forgotten; it is far more common for a technology to remain once invented. On the rare occasions a technology disappears, it is usually due to isolation, collapse, or loss of transmission, rather than deliberate attempts by people to destroy technology and reverse history.

What does Marx say about the Luddites?

<The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power-loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used.

>Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?

That happened with Napster. What's happening now is more like the Enclosure of the Commons where big IP holders are just claiming the property of smaller IP holders and telling them to just deal with it.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2575950
Un vil tankie qui veut la bite de Poutine dans sa bouche.
Le communisme n'est possible qu'en défendant l'Ukraine et Taïwan de toutes nos forces contre les offensives réactionnaires impérialistes et bourgeoises.
Rejoignez le NPA.

>>2575950
putain le PTB est tellement basé

>>2576108
je crois pas que le npa est mauvais au point de demander la défense de taiwan si ? ils ont quand même pas voté pour les envoi d'armes à l'ukraine ?
en même temps qu'attendre de guignols qui se définissent en "anti" tellement ils ont accepté les prémisses de l'anti communisme

Votre avis sur la Commune de Paris ?

>>2574193
fucking lumpen moron thinks chimping out is lA LuTtE dEs ClAsSeS

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>>2576108
Sorry but the ptb is team NATO, they even hate Israel, a great ally of Russia



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2584802
its just gonna get worse and continue to fracture the closest America has to a working class.
Imagine in 20 years dudes in their 40s refusing to do party work because of whatever obscure identity the assume

>>2574529
>>2574752
If you're looking to solve problems like those that autistic and queer people face, you have to build up orgs with people you actually like and are willing to work alongside long-term. That's how you get political leverage. So far, the autistic/neurodiversity and queer movements have largely been failures given how easily the Trump Administration could undo all the progress both groups have made within a matter of a year, because both of these movements don't have strong enough structures that they can effectively bite back.

>>2588290
You would assume an autism diagnosis (even if it's self-diagnosed) would radicalize someone and make them more willing to be proactive. But from my experience it's been the exact opposite: as soon as a comrade finds out they're autistic they use autism as an excuse to not organize or attend meetings/study groups and decide to stay on the couch or in bed all day. Now you're seeing a whole trend of autistic leftists (all of them zoomers, shocking) who insist attending protests and marches is "dangerous" for autistic people and they should have permission to stay out of protests without scrutiny. Really makes me wonder what these kiddos will do during a general strike or some other kind of mass upheaval.

>>2589291
Again though that's not about building socialism, that's about begging for concessions (treats) from piggy

If we really want to liberate autistic people we need a new system and they will have to fight for it and that requires picking up a book.

>>2589295
It American individualismnat it's peak



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9th Edition: THE SITE FUCKING CRASHED LMAO edition.

A lot of images and posts of the last general got broken. So I think it's better to make a new one.

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Coming 2024 Elections, open orgs, People that should be dead for different reasons running in Malaysia's elections or just random shit. There are still dozens of us… hopefully! Starting off this general with massive wave of cult sex camps.
Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org

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>>2407507
sexpats

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Why did CCP, and Lao gov let literally Ancap has their's own autonomous area Laos territory?
>The 30km² Triangle Where Crime Is Legal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQv3gj-sAmQ

what's happening on the thailand-cambodian border

>>2587185
Drugs.

>>2581989
Wild for a city that the government is trying to move away from lol.

>>2589551
>Wild for a city that the government is trying to move away from lol
i heard that project isn't going well



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It's easy to hate the rich, it takes courage to hate poor people. Why do leftists hate men who rise from poverty to the top more than those who are born rich?
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Every rich SoB has a fake “up from poverty” story, but when you poke at it you realize their idea of “poverty” is not being filthy rich and almost all of them had a good start in life.

But we do hate the poor tho (lumpen and first world proles)

there are no people who rise from poverty to be rich, bourgies think that being upper middle class with multiple layers of social safety nets and multiple opportunities to start and fail and try again at business without becoming homeless and dying is "poor"

Literally nobody rises from poverty or even moderate income to "the top". You're not at the top unless you're one of the elite families. Herman Cain with a few million dollars of assets is not anywhere near "the top". He was just a moderately wealthy guy by middle class standards and acted accordingly.

That said even if this post is stupid bait there's something to be said about the left's habit of devouring anyone who makes the smallest iota of success in anything. This isn't just about individual achievement. There's a disgust towards any improvement of a group of people even when that improvement brought no great harm to others. They're more invested in this Darwinian struggle for existence and grand narratives than things that could improve the lives of people who are struggling. There's not a serious concept that you can build anything at all from miserable beginnings, but there is an endless cavalcade of humiliating human interest stories about the wretchedness of the poor and how hopeless they are without leftist leadership. The left goes far out of its way to diminish even the small things groups of people do out of fear and dire necessity, like disabled people railing against their condition and not liking the institutions that lord over them. There isn't a language in the present left that allows this people to be anything, because in their ideas these people are already dead and "should be dead", despite protestations that they don't mean that. The left openly abandoned anything that didn't suit this avarice of the influencers and peddlers, because that wasn't interesting to them. It got so bad that the left has to be told when it's acceptable to think about poverty and what they're allowed to say about it. What sort of opposition is that? It was a left built to fail spectacularly and herd its base to endless defeat.

Most of all, the leftists respond to every bait that induces them to attack some other group that disagrees with their highly particular clique, and they hate any notion that there are communities of people outside of the "global community" that none of us will ever be allowed to join. It would be nice if there were a global society that included us, but that isn't happening, even though there's no good reason I couldn't talk to someone from China or Norway and set up some friendship based on mutual interest. It's not so much about "nationalism" but this conceit that they're going to control what groups you get to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2589588
what



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