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After reading Marxist literature, studying the history of Marxist states, and interacting with self-proclaimed Marxists, I've come to the conclusion that "Marxist" as a term isn't particularly useful.

In common usage, it describes a number of largely distinct ideologies and forms of political and economic organization that are connected by genealogy and geopolitics. China under Mao was a very different beast than China under Xi, and yet they're both seen as Communist because the latter came from the former, and the former had its basis in the Soviet Union under Stalin had its basis in the Soviet Union under Lenin had its basis in the writings of Marx and Engels. And this is just one state (technically two, but you get the point); looking at the bigger picture, things are even more variable based on time and place.

This isn't to talk ill of China or the Soviet Union by the way, I admire both greatly. My issue is more that "I'm a Marxist" isn't a phrase that tells anyone much of anything unless it's heavily qualified.
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>>2451591
Are there places to discuss Marxism that aren't braindead? This is an honest question.

>>2451618
Chinese, Russian, German, and Spanish speakers probably have more communists per capita than speakers of other languages just because of their historical connection to the real movement so go to Marxist websites online that speak those languages and you might have better luck, even if you're stuck using translate tools.

>>2451683
Thanks for the suggestion. I need to learn more languages anyway.

Yeah, it's not a very useful term by itself. It's just a vague framework.

>>2451618
to be honest the time for discussing is long past.



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Brawl erupts in Mexico’s senate after debate over US military intervention to fight drug cartels
The scuffle followed a tense debate during which the governing Morena party and its allies accused the opposition Pri and Pan parties of calling for US military intervention in Mexico, a claim that both parties denied. Earlier this week, a senator from the Pan party had gone on Fox News and said that “help from the United States to fight the cartels in Mexico is absolutely welcome”. The issue has become particularly contentious in Mexico after Donald Trump reportedly authorized the use of military force targeting drug cartels deemed terrorist organizations in Latin American countries.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/28/mexico-senate-fight-us-military-intervention-cartels

Paraguayan Drivers Demand Labor Guarantees in Transit Reform
The National Workers’ Union of Paraguay (CNT) warned about the lack of labor guarantees in the public transportation reform, denouncing that the bill proposes the outsourcing of services without ensuring stability, continuity, or respect for workers’ seniority. Union representative Ramón Ávalos explained that nearly 5,000 employees, including drivers and administrative and workshop staff, are uncertain about their future employment.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/paraguayan-drivers-demand-labor-guarantees-in-transit-reform/

More audios linking Karina Milei to Andis scandal leaked
Spagnuolo mentioned that Karina Milei was taking kickbacks from disability allowances, while he complained about his own salary, suggesting officials need to “get money from somewhere” to make ends meet. The former official claimed that the irregularities under him were deeper than those committed by previous administrations after suppliers were instructed to raise their prices and deliver the money to “the president's office.” Spagnuolo also mentions having WhatsApp messages from Karina Milei, who - he believed - would fall given the scandal.
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Trump administration announces a $825 million arms sale to Ukraine
The State Department announced Thursday that it had notified Congress of the sale of extended-range attack munition missiles and navigation systems for Ukraine. The sale will cover 3,350 ERAM missiles, 3,350 GPS units, along with components, spare parts and other accessories, as well as training and technical support.
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-us-weapons-sale-trump-russia-74e01123c0067d5fc160141e0cabf207

State DFL chair's text fueled tension after Fateh endorsement reversal
For some Fateh supporters, the message reinforces a belief that top party officials were eager to intervene on incumbent Mayor Jacob Frey's behalf after his convention defeat. That suspicion is at the heart of an intra-party feud that has erupted since the state party's rules committee revoked Fateh's endorsement. Carlbom told Axios the text "was purely about procedural mistakes that we would need to address, not a preference for or against any candidate."
https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2025/08/27/dfl-carlblom-text-fateh-endorsement

Former Memphis police officers granted new trial in Tyre Nichols killing
Three former Memphis police officers who were convicted on federal charges related to the beating death of unarmed Black motorist Tyre Nichols have each been granted a new trial. U.S. District Judge Sheryl Lipman on Thursday ordered the new trials after finding that another judge held communications with federal prosecutors without defense lawyers present, giving the appearance of possible bias.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-memphis-police-officers-granted-new-trial-tyre-nichols-killing-2025-08-29/

Top Human Rights Group Makes Case for Countries to 'Break Up' Big Tech
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The DSA Voted Against Zionism — But Will It Break from the Democrats?
Every rupture carries its shadow. In Chicago, the same convention that declared support for anti-Zionism also codified loyalty to the very party arming Israel. Resolution 7, “Principles for Party-Building,” reaffirmed DSA’s surrogate strategy, stating outright that an independent ballot line “is not the primary goal or an indication of political independence.” Resolution 18, adopted unanimously, pledged a massive push in the 2026 midterms on the Democratic ballot line and even created a committee to explore a DSA-backed campaign for the 2028 Democratic presidential primaries. This is no longer inertia about the “dirty break” — which is the term used to describe the DSA’s self-evidently “dirty” decision to stay in the Democratic Party for now and break at some undetermined point in the future. What was once justified as a temporary tactic has now hardened into the DSA’s long-term strategy — a consolidation made explicit in Resolution 18, which commits the organization to remain within the Democrats through 2028. The contradiction could not be sharper: even as the convention voted to strip Zionism from the organization’s politics, the leadership secured resolutions that bound the DSA more tightly to the very party financing genocide. Today, some sectors of the DSA’s leadership wrap themselves in more radical, anti-imperialist rhetoric than in 2023 — but beneath the new language lies the same reformist strategy: to keep the socialist Left tethered to the Democratic Party, one of the main pillars of imperialism. This debate over strategy isn’t abstract — it’s unfolding through real campaigns and real figures. Nowhere is that clearer than in the phenomenon of Zohran Mamdani. His mayoral campaign in New York electrified millions. For the first time in decades, a Democrat running for high office said “Free Palestine,” called Israel an apartheid state, and endorsed boycotts against Israel. And crucially, his campaign showed that Palestine is not separate from so-called “bread-and-butter” issues. People rallied to him because his campaign has fused the fight against genocide abroad with the fight against skyrocketing rents, precarity, and exploitation at home. The link is not rhetorical but material: the same state that sends billions to fund Israel’s bombs is the one slashing housing, healthcare, and education; the same ruling class that justifies ethnic cleansiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>Nuclear armed far right Jewish ethnonationalist state mass ethnic cleansing Palestinians and annexing Palestinian land like there's no tomorrow

>All being funded by YOUR tax dollars


Uhhh… Based Department? I'd like to file a claim…



 

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>Russian forces have fully captured Udachne.

>>2451543
Only one reported death though, so don't start printing postage stamps in celebration just yet ROSINYA!

Russians work as unpaid slaves and beg for bombs on their factories

Leftypol nazi vermin hate this fact

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First they came for the german economy, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a german.

Then they came for the french economy, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a french.

Then they came for the …. (insert next EU economy here)

>>2451644
if they really want to collapse russia's economy maybe they should stop with all the sanctions and just admit russia into the eu



 

In the previous discussions with mates in leftypol, the most contentious part has been regarding Democracy.

The mainstream view on this forum is one of distrust towards Western electoral systems, holding that electoralism is nothing more than an art of misleading and deception, with greater preference for vanguardism.

Yet as a resident of China, a citizen who has been ruled by the vanguard all my life, I loathe the fact that the government fails to hear our songs and ignore our criticism and supervision.

Yeah, I can see, what is happening in Taiwan, where there is full of chaos and hardly something in progress. It's true that the western system is uneffcient and corrupt, but changeable and reviseable, different from autocracy.

Anyway, I'm sorry that a director, which you prefer, with great authority, has come into power already, in the USA, whose name is DJT.
Or, what you like is a director you like, instead of a director you dislike?
Then how can we make sure about it?

Power can change a person, from head to toes. You may like someone before ther're in charge, but you cannot take them down after they come into power. They may cheat, they may lie, but no way you can regret, withnot democracy.

How many MAGAs are there, who voted for Trump, and got upsetted by his behaviour and policy afterwards? Ones those believe in socialism and hope for a leader, is not that different from the Republicans, are they? They want a GOP, Grand Old Party as well. The mere diversity lies in the specific.
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Another thing that occurs to me is that Mao expected Deng to take over and do something different and was mostly ok with it; his major regret was not getting Big Letter Democracy into the constitution

>>2434829
Gosh, democracy! That sounds swell. So regular people can vote not to live by the party's dictates? or the great man's? No. But maybe not working in factories? Well of course not that's necessary. But maybe fewer working hours? Ohohoho. How about not being conscripted? If you're lucky.

>>2434829
The people ITT are morons, I agree with you OP, at least to an extent.

I've said it before, and I'll probably say it a million times more, but the problem with "representative" politics, including Western republicanism, is that they create two distinct political "classes", politicians, and regular people. Obviously some degree of authority is necessary, but it needs to be as minimal as possible. Otherwise, those with political power can and will use it to their own ends.

>no distinction between bourgeois "democracy" and proletarian democracy
>no commentary on the class character of a given system claiming to be democratic
>no historical understanding of democracy as limited freedom/suffrage with universal suffrage being only a recent historical innovation
>no understanding that there is illusory "democracy" (political campaigns for representation) in the public sector of the nation-state without there being not even the attempt at such an illusion in the workplace

just gonna copy paste a response i had to another anon:

Marx talks about bourgeois democracy being "shallow" and "vulgar."

>Even vulgar democracy, which sees the millennium in the democratic republic, and has no suspicion that it is precisely in this last form of state of bourgeois society that the class struggle has to be fought out to a conclusion — even it towers mountains above this kind of democratism, which keeps within the limits of what is permitted by the police and not permitted by logic.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm

>Every demand of the simplest bourgeois financial reform, of the most ordinary liberalism, of the most formal republicanism, of the most shallow democracy, is simultaneously castigated as an "attempt on society" and stigmatized as "socialism".


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>>2434829
if thise anon represents chinese general ethos we are fucked



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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>>2450459
Did you miss the part where I informed you lot that we do physically demanding work 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week?

I have a diploma, btw, you cunt, and would like to learn German, if I had the time or energy, but as it stands now I'm sooner to learn Polish, because that's the majority of my coworkers.

Also, today a german worker called us, migrant workers üntermenschen, to my face, which is funny, cuz he works 2 hours less each day, has free weekends, and earns more. I guess the übermenschen are physically weaker and lazier, or something.

>>2451444
You should leave that shithole country of subhuman kraut rats.

Stalin should have annihilated their entire nation. Here's hoping Russia and China will finally wipe Berlin off the map.

Every german baby should be shot in the head.

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>>2451444
>demanding work 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week
I'm a Catholic Kurdish Jew and I milk the brown cows that give chocolate milk using only my feet because I have to pay my landlord in body parts, working 8 days a week. Get on my level.

>>2449655
>Bossman says migrunts need to stay and clean… We do… Local german proles stand around us in a half circle, point at us and laugh,
>>2451444
>Also, today a german worker called us, migrant workers üntermenschen, to my face
Damn bruh. Is Germany really that bad? I think it's actually much more chill in America despite what you might see in viral vids. Everyone has only ever been super nice in my experience. I had this one coworker, boomer, Fox News watching, Rush Limbaugh listening, old White guy. We do a mostly manual labor job surveying out int the middle of nowhere and shit. Our boss was a foreigner, and although they had problems a lot I never heard him say anything racist. My boss also hired some recent immigrant from his country, and him and the old White boomer were out in the middle of nowhere Arizona working on this job for a month straight, living out of a motel room and eating frozen dinners. I had to drive out there to bring them some equipment, and then drive back. When I pulled in he was like so happy to see me lol, then he was like, "oh you're going to be sharing a room with Ajowato(making up a name), don't worry, he's good guy, doesn't speak a lick of English." That old dude has work ethic like a motherfucker tho. He's always trying to beat the clock for I don't know what reason, because if we do the job faster, that just means we make less money. Like he'll get on your ass for being slow, but he'll also be doing more than his share of the work putting you to shame.



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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-city-officially-famine-says-global-hunger-monitor-2025-08-22/

>UNITED NATIONS, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Gaza City and surrounding areas are officially suffering from famine, and it will likely spread, a global hunger monitor determined on Friday, an assessment that will escalate pressure on Israel to allow more aid into the Palestinian enclave.


<It was the first time the IPC has recorded famine outside of Africa, and the global group predicted that famine conditions would spread to the central and southern areas of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis by the end of next month.



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>>2450658
/palestine/ in a nutshell

>>2449899
based Brad Pitt??

>>2450806
if they remove the early life section rachel sennot's groyper hatemail is going to triple overnight

>>2450238
>X is now turning against Israel?
Well everyone will at some point been against the second Nakba, other than people and organizations whose identity is *just* Zionism. Even Joe Biden's admin is already washing their hands off it.

But don't get tired of WINNING yet, fellow anti-Zionist. I have it on good word that the good people of Israel (Anti-Netanyahu) are planning to institute mandatory land acknowledgements for at least a couple of years in Israeli Gaza, before corporate AND public sector meetings.

And, aaaand peep this out: There are some A-M-A-Z-I-N-G-L-Y scathing Hareetz and 972mag articles in the pipeline. I'll tell you now, Israel is never gonna live down the second Nakba! We got em'!

>>2442512
>Hamas winning the war on the battlefield is delusional at this point.
>at this point
It was never feasible. The problem is, Israel's "victory" would always be too costly, and be the end of them.



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Letter from R.I. Kosolapov to the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, "Comrade" M.S. Gorbachev (1986)
To the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Comrade M.S. Gorbachev

Dear Mikhail Sergeevich!

For several months now I have felt an urgent need for a frank conversation with you (even a brief one) about the nature and direction of the work of "Kommunist" in the current conditions. Usually the editor-in-chief of the magazine was invited for such a conversation by the newly elected General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.

Rumors persistently leak out from academic and literary, journalistic and even church circles, from foreign embassies about me as a "disgraced" editor, who "backed the wrong horse", came "out of place", etc. These rumors cannot help but make the Kommunist workers nervous and affect their attitude toward the editorial board. I must immediately note that I have never backed any "horses", have never attached myself to any "courts", have never belonged to any group, and have always considered myself a party man. All comrades who are impartial toward me, who have observed my behavior over the course of twenty years of work in the Central Committee apparatus, know this. The fact that I, like other party members, carried out the orders of the three previous general secretaries, cannot discredit me.

Of course, I did not contact you for career reasons. They have not played a role in my life. I am concerned with something else - maintaining the authority of the theoretical journal of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the trust in it of the readership that has grown in the last period, and the maximum use in the interests of the party of the potential of a talented, combat-ready team, which we have basically managed to put together over the past ten years.

Over the course of a quarter of a century, since my first major publication, in addition to the positive development of theoretical issues, I have had the opportunity to participate, to the best of my ability, in polemics against right and “left” opportunism, versions of Yugoslav and market socialism, Maoism, Czechoslovak revisionism, “Eurocommunism.” Against voluntary and involuntary burps of petty bourgeoisness, erroneous interpretations of current problems, which, alas, are still encountered, and sometimes intensified, in our press.

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awesome, another thread about pop history trivia from decades ago thats absolutely irrelevant to proletarians today lol

very interesting anon, appreciate you sharing

>>2451137
Letter from R.I. Kosolapov to the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Comrade N.I. Ryzhkov (1989)


To the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Comrade Ryzhkov N.I. (1989)


Dear Nikolai Ivanovich!

I and many of my colleagues are increasingly concerned about both the deterioration of the general state of the national economy and the growth of tension in society, as well as the incompetence of the recommendations of those scientists who have been turned into a monopolistic group of advisers to the top leadership of the party and the state. I am writing to you in this way because I can judge the subject professionally and know some of these people personally.

In essence, the model proposed by representatives of the academic school of economists boils down to the formation in our country, along with the necessary market for goods, also a free market for capital and labor. In social terms, this meant restoring the commodity character of labor and its bourgeois exploitation, undermining the right to work. The formation of a market as a comprehensive system with its inherent subsystems, attributes and institutions is a long and difficult matter. In the West, it took several centuries. Therefore, the hope that, having adopted the market model, we will quickly become one of the advanced countries, cannot be characterized otherwise than as utopian capitalism. At first, a powerful Western competitor "will certainly break our native industry" (Lenin). We will not become a prosperous Sweden or Australia, the FRG or Canada due to objective circumstances. At best, the USSR will be relegated to the position of Brazil or India in world economic relations for decades, with growing social contrasts and collisions (including the development of class struggle) within the country.

The incessant attacks on public property and planned economic management, on democratic centralism and the socialist state, the possibilities and advantages of which we have only partially used, are surprising and indignant. Taking advantage of our historical forgetfulness, some authors praise private property and profit, and claim the legitimacy of distribution not according to labor, but according to social agility. It is with bitterness that we have to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Can someone tldr please im retarded



 

All the other previous modes of production were brought about over the course of centuries. The replacement of slavery by feudalism and feudal decentralization of the disintegrated ancient slave empires took centuries to complete. Slavery was not overthrown by slave rebellions, but by local magistrates using legal codes to turn poor freemen and ex slaves into coloni which were the prototypes of serfs. Slave revolts and servile wars shook the ruling classes, but they were put down quickly and did not establish a new order. Then the re-centralizing and industrializing force of capitalism also took centuries to emerge, requiring political/economic developments that began during feudalism and carried on: The rise of merchants and mariners in breakaway republics, the colonization and genocide of the new world, the enclosure of commons in England, the bourgeois revolution in France, the prototypical corporate structures and joint stock companies created by the Dutch colonizers, and finally the industrial revolution in England. Just like slavery was not overthrown by slaves, Feudalism was not overthrown by peasants. In fact in some bourgeois revolutions, like France, peasants often played a counter-revolutionary role. All these changes were largely brought about by slow systemic changes out of the total control of any one class but involving all classes fighting over the steering wheel. The idea of a "revolutionary class" is almost in some ways the reproduction of the great man theory of history at a class level. History is driven by systems, not protagonists, collective or individual. Lower class political upheaval, when it happened, was often either directed (with varying success) by middle strata or crushed by ruling strata. Bourgeois transitions were top-down affairs in Prussia and Japan, though ambiguously so. The vast majority of slave revolts and peasant revolts failed, but there is a vulgarized idea that a world proletarian revolution is going to establish a new mode of production in a single cataclysmic event rather than the new mode of production emerging slowly from systemic changes beyond anyone's control as in all previous transitions between modes of production. There's only so much one can ignore the evidence of actual history in favor of treating any one class as the historical protagonist. There are modes of production, and they do change, but it is less certain whether "revolutions" inhPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2449061
>The only way for them to compete is to also increase productivity, and then down it goes again

>>2449580
yeah i agree thats why the belt and road is such a big deal. even if china ends up turning full revisionist they build a world wide amazon one day delivery connected by high speed rail and powered by nuclear all it takes is the international working class seizing it and your 90% of the way to world communism

>>2448260
>Why are they throwing trillions at AI?
We live in the post-Obama era where the low interest rates which allowed this soulless parasite class of Silicon Valley vampire to gain hegemony. Now that there is the threat of raised interest rates, maybe they want to all cash out? Its like they're turning the planet into a private equity corporate raid

>>2448260
American military Keynesianism, they want to use AI
for weapons targeting, also propaganda. America needs increasing investments in military might and psyops to fight the resistance of workers in the periphery and the beginnings of resistance in the imperial core.

>>2448231
It's shit that nuclear fission is suppressed by big oil but I think it's more stuff like domestic labor and housing. IMO denser cities and less urban sprawl are a prerequisite for a socialist economy. This explains why America is so reactionary IMO.



 

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>>2450882
>the radlib cosmopolitan slop you and Rosa Luxembourg argued in favor of.
reichwing schizo posing as communist moment

>>2450294
>inb4 demokkkrats say "all paths lead to RuZZHIA"

>>2450908
Based based based.

>>2450908
Based as fuck

>>2450932
That picture and caption remind me of that zoomer Reddit brainrot thread about how Taco Bell is a solarpunk third space



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