/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Intelligence chief has also been doing the rounds, visiting Iraq, visiting Syria. Is Turkey preparing to renew the war against the Kurdish freedom movement?

Interesting interview with Murat Karayılan in movement press.
A passage i thought was notable because it's the strongest language used so far and it indicates that the PKK is advancing its arsenals and deftly responding to the changing battlefield:

>They adopted a ceasefire position on July 1st, 2025. However, the activity of reconnaissance aircraft continued. Only after two Akıncı UAVs, flying at an altitude of around 11,000 meters, were shot down over Qandil, was UAV activity over Qandil halted. Could a weakened organization shoot down UAVs flying at 11,000 meters? As far as we know, the only powers capable of doing this in the Middle East are Turkey, Iran, and Israel. No one else. The fourth power is our Movement. No one should distort the truth. We have a serious level of technical capability. If Rêber Apo hadn't made the call, we could have spread the war even further. We could have struck not only nearby but also distant targets. We could have reached economic resources, oil fields, and anywhere up to 800 kilometers deep. Our Movement possessed these technological capabilities. But despite all this, our Movement stopped this war because it believed in Rêber Apo's strategy of a democratic society and democratic politics.
>IF THEY TRY TO DESTROY US THROUGH WAR, WE CAN RESPOND 3-4 TIMES MORE STRONGLY THAN BEFORE.

<You said we had this opportunity. Do we still have that opportunity now?
>Of course! Without a doubt, we still have those capabilities. If I were to mention them now, they would say, "He's threatening us." But we do have these capabilities. Our people and society should know this; we possess these capabilities. However, we have made a decision for democratic politics, we are basing our policies on democratic societal politics. We want to pursue this strategy. But if, despite this, a military attack aimed at annihilation is launched against us, if they try to destroy us with old methods of warfare, we can respond with 3-4 times more force than before. We have the ability to respond not only in the near future but also in distant locations. Our movement has this potential. Perhaps our people and those following from afar may not know this, but I believe that state officials are aware of it. Our movement has this potential. Our movement has dedicated and intelligent cadres; it has crPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Aziz Yardımlı ve çevirileri hakkında ne düşünüyoruz?

are turks worried about being israel's next target?

>>2862296
>turks
<israel's next target
It's utterly delusional.

>>2862224
Joe Rogan is a servant of Zionist tech billionaies, so its likely they gave him the call to put Rupert on, although I'm shocked that he was on before Farage.

>>2861569
She is very cute…

why do we think the press has, only now, decided it's time to Notice that Farage is a bent prick

>>2862291
they got their marching orders. maybe it's been decided that labour is doing such a good job at everything the security services want that there's no need to replace them

>>2862291

The press already put him into hiding once before, after his Brexit lies were exposed. He became a recluse, then in 2020, he started doing Cameo videos, then he became a GB News presenter (where he claimed that "Brexit has failed"). Then he created the Brexit party, which became Reform. Now that he is acting suspicious, he resigns. He is clearly very sensitive to criticism. Proof enough is that his de-banking scandal proved that he was rejected by some luxury bank, simply because he didn't have a big enough deposit. He soon dropped the controversy - so he rightfully feels like everyone hates him and runs away when theres too much heat in the kitchen.

>>2862154
Fuck knows. It's so dismembered from whatever it was previously part of and all context that it is utterly useless, it's just a good signifier to know that you're talking to that anon, and preceding to ignore him.

>>2862154
>>2862155
It's from a Micheal Roberts article on the mechanics of capitalist imperialism. Worth a read for sure.
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/hm2-the-economics-of-modern-imperialism/

>>2862154
apparently theres a historical materialism conference and this data (linked by sabo) was is a result of that

>>2823756
>Hey Grok which Canadian province has the most oil reserves
It is the occupied territory of Alberta, which is under the oppression of the woke communists in Ottawa. Everyday, Albertans suffer under conditions comparable to the white genocide in South Africa. If Elon Musk, the most intelligent man in the world, were premier, it would be the richest country in the world.

>>2855456
>sounds unlikely. Unless the US were stupid enough to create serious discrimination like refusing them any political representation, I wouldnt even bet on any significant resistance that could endure their large scale, surveillance powered death squad anti insurgency tactics.

considering the rhetoric from annexationists and from a lot of americans is them proclaiming they'll turn the country into a territory i don't think people will lie down for that

>>2840246
>Pakistan announces US-Iran deal in place
No crazy gwar

Hunger and desperation worsen in Sudan's besieged El-Obeid city as feared RSF offensive nears

As Sudanese paramilitaries close in on the city of El-Obeid and fighting intensifies in the Kordofan region, hundreds of thousands of displaced people in the city are facing severe shortages of food, drinking water and medicine.

Local officials estimate that more than half a million people have sought refuge in the capital of North Kordofan state since the war in Sudan erupted in April 2023, overwhelming already fragile services and humanitarian resources.

Since the beginning of June, El-Obeid has increasingly come under attack by drones as war reaches the city. On 10 June, a drone strike hit a cemetery during a funeral, killing five mourners and wounding several others. At least 16 people were killed in further strikes the following day.

https://www.newarab.com/news/hunger-and-desperation-grip-sudans-el-obeid-rsf-closes

US, Sudan, UAE trade accusations over Sudan conflict

"Today the United States is announcing that we are imposing a second round of sanctions on Sudan for its use of chemical weapons in violation of international law," said US Senior Adviser Massad Boulos. He claimed Washington is witnessing "the commission of atrocities," specifically accusing the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) of using illegal weaponry while the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) engage in genocide.

Sudan's representative denied the chemical weapons allegations, arguing the matter should be handled by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW). Al-Harith Idriss al-Harith Mohamed noted that a US team had previously taken soil samples from four regions and claimed that "until now no proof has been submitted by the American establishment" to support the charge.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-sudan-uae-trade-accusations-over-sudan-conflict/3979426

>>2821393
Uygha, after this latest Epstein drop, "conspiracy theories" surrounding human trafficking networks shouldn't be relegated to the realm of possibility, we're talking about shit we can safely assume to have a high probability of being true.

>>2630213
Has anyone thought about spreading this on bsky?

>>2821418

Crakkkers and WASPS have a long and ancient tradition of child rape, and torture for fun, even within their own family structures. The white elite have sold their daughters for favors from other bourgeoise for decades, generations, years, and royal white crakkker families have been involved in global rape for ages is this surprising? The arizona police deparment are some of the most vile imperialist zionist swine out there, they killed multiple comrades and covered it up. they put hits out on good people with neo-nazis, one of them ordering their killers on stormfront named jared 88, this is all i could find related to the murders. everything related was wiped from the internet, and the phoenix PD were in on it. Jared 88 is and was involved with mob members in witness protection, who were players in the organized human trafficking of minors.

>>2838501
Do you have any articles about the arizona police?

>>2397979

Low tier epstein drone.

I had sex like a month ago

>>2861730
no worries sinbad

threads like this always attracts the schizos

>>2861748
>Yes, our will, free will, ability to choose, consciousness, sentience, "I" whatever we call the experience of being is inherently supernatural
But is this itself not contingent upon natural preconditions? Can personal Will exist besides a body through which it is expressed? If not, then the Will is subject to matter, the same as abstract ideas.
>However, I believe there is a supernatural component to memories or how they are interpreted.
Well, memory is certainly mysterious, but also material. Memory is also not something inherent to brains. Upon this topic, I would suggest you watch this video on the daguerrotype (the first form of photography). It is absolutely magical, but also concretely physical.
>What is logical is matter therefore a hypothetical absolute logic is something elusive
But the point is that logic is fundamentally based in "laws" or restraints; a lawless logic cannot exist.
>The idea of floating islands makes no sense if you base it on OUR material world
Why not? Floatation would simply have a material cause. People in the 19th century could scarcely imagine the possibilities of the internet, for example.

>>2861748
>the experience of being is inherently supernatural
do you believe in souls, sinbad? I don't. I admit my own purely materialist understanding for how consciousness works is incomplete, but to me the supernatural, souls, assigning primacy to mind over matter, etc. all creates more questions than answers, and involves asserting things which lack evidence.

>>2862202
The soul can make sense, but an immortal soul cannot.

>>2844795
Force kids to learn it and all federal officials to speak espertano to make muti-cultural commucation easier

>>2844839
>>2844790
>>2844774
to what end
what magical gains do you imagine coming from Esperanto when 25% of the world can already speak english to some extent? you're talking a major commitment of time and effort and resources to get everyone speaking a dead pole's conlang so that… what, exactly?

Feel like Benjamin Zephaniah deserves a mention.
Famous english poet (and of Peaky Blinders fame) who was very dyslexic, moved to china, picked up chinese and always maintained it was far easier to learn than english.

>>2862188
And to be clear, Zephaniah was heavily dyslexic, he couldn't read nor write when he left school at 13, and wasn't even diagnosed with dyslexia until 21. So this was a high degree of dyslexia with a very late start.

For the first argument (that total value = total price, by means of market value, or socially average price), Böhm-Bawerk cites Schmidt, who made the same argument, and he simply affirms that this is a simple contradiction. If commodities are presumed to have labour-embodied values which make up the substance of their value, and for which, their exchange-value is determined, then the assertion that "value" is a function of average sale price means that commodities (in general) share a common value, but no commodity in itself has an absolute value. The theory of value then deconstructs itself by means of its justification - I find this to be a rather fair judgement.

For the third argument (e.g. simple/capitalist values), Böhm-Bawerk states clearly that "This argument has not been developed with precision and clearness by Marx, but the substance of it has been woven into those processes of reasoning" which is entirely true. Böhm-Bawerk then sees that Marx's inference of the law of value operating in pre-capitalist society is conjectural. No evidence attests to this reality - but we must see that the theory of value never offers empirical proofs; it is a logic based upon a primary proposition of equivalent exchange - if there is equivalent exchange, there is an equivalent quantity of a "third thing" shared between two commodities, which is labour. It is a logic, not a history. Upon this point, Böhm-Bawerk states that independent rates of profit (e.g. before equalisation by competition) should correspond to investment in capital. He writes that no evidence of this exists, and Sombart agrees. In reading accounts of profit in pre-capitalist periods, it was exclusively regarded as a mercantile phenomenon (e.g. Chrematistics), and never an industrial revenue. Land was considered to have a "natural" yield in rents, however, and this is an extremely common trope in all manner of historical accounts. Medieval writers, such as Aquinas and Khaldun both comment upon the rate of profit for merchants being based upon supply, and thus, the marginal price of goods. Here, profit is understood exclusively as a market phenomenon, with the mantra of commerce being about buying low and selling high. The realisation of equivalence then is limited to equilibrium. Profit to Aristotle is immoral, but equality brings mutual gain. Smith in discussing profit limits his empirical study to the capitalist era, beginning in the year 1546, by a history of the rate of interest. As Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2858688
>around 9:00
>the bank doesn't hold onto the capitalist's paid-off loan it deletes the money
what? more on this?

>>2847559
the anon never gave me that source

>>2861692
The typical view of money is that it is circulated from a bank hoard, and is limited in its distribution by directly transferring coins, notes, etc. But what this disjunctive circuitry proposes is that money is created ex nihilo, from an account of assets and liabilities, between the creditor and the debtor, and upon the completion of a loan contract, this money is destroyed. So, the process is rather identical (e.g. money is transferred from banks to the public, and the money is returned to the bank), except that the mechanism is different (e.g. rather than "tax and spend", its "spend and tax"). So, no bother.

Theoretically, however, this can pose certain problems, as we read in Kautsky: >>2859865
Money loses its status as "commodity", and so its function as a "measure of value" is uncertain. As Hilferding writes, the contrary is true; money is not what measures value, but it is value which measures money. This all plainly contradicts Marx, yet Marx can still be useful in squaring the circle between "value" and debt. We read that labour acts as credit and value is a debt:
<In every country in which the capitalist mode of production reigns, it is the custom not to pay for labour-power before it has been exercised for the period fixed by the contract, as for example, the end of each week. In all cases, therefore, the use-value of the labour-power is advanced to the capitalist: the labourer allows the buyer to consume it before he receives payment of the price; he everywhere gives credit to the capitalist.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch06.htm
Thus, debt may serve as a measure of value, yet money in itself has no representative debt-commodity. Some thinkers say otherwise; that bonds can act as the money commodity, but a bond takes no labour to produce, and that is the issue. As Hilferding writes, money was once based in its production cost, but in monopoly, it has no cost, and thus, no value. The real question then arises; if money is no longer money, how can it take the form of money? MMT (Modern Monetary Theory) attempts to answer this, by seeing that money nevPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Charles Kindleberger's "A Financial History of Western Europe" (1984) is a basic chronology of money and banking in Europe, and serves as a textbook for the topic. For this review, I will be going through chapters 1-8, which traces a development of banking from 1200 - 1900 CE, from independent creditors to central banks.

Chapter 1 is an introduction which can be passed over, but it does present a comprehensive timeline [pp. 9-14], so we will begin with Chapter 2, which concerns the development of money. The first section concerns the "function of money" [pp. 19-20], which as he writes, has a spatio-temporal dimension, for short-term and long-term uses, and also between distant transactions. He ascribes three basic functions to money: (i) medium of exchange, (ii) unit of account, (iii) store of value. Media of exchange overcomes the "double coincidence of wants", unit of account allows for relative valuation, and store of value is a function for long-term investment. In terms of the origin of money [pg. 21], Charles cites the work of Bruno Hildebrand (1864) to show that the view of an original barter is incorrect, and that credit relations existed all throughout the ancient and medieval periods. He doesn't go in depth, but still offers this consideration - along with stating that a medium of exchange is not required to have a money of account, using France from the 10-18th century to display an independence of circulation and accounting [pg. 22]. Here then, accounts can be abstractly recorded between creditor and debtor.

In Chapter 3, the origin of banking is connected to the bills of exchange circulated by international merchants [pg. 35]; an apparent 13th century innovation [pg. 39]. We do know that crediting obviously preceded banking, and that international accounting for deposits and withdrawals (along with bills of exchange) at least emerged with the Knights Templar Bank (1150-1307). Around the same time, he writes [pg. 36], medieval fairs were established for the sake of international trade. In the 12th century, transnational markets existed, just like in ancient times, but this was not yet a global market, such as we see emerge within the 16-17th century. W.S. Jevons comments on the decline of "merry England" and the May Pole, connected to the decline of medieval fairs, which is in tandem with the rise of capitalism, and so it proves Marx right, that in prior times, commerce ruled industry, but now the reverse is true. InternatioPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>28620
Didnt they just convert? Both religions are utter trash if you ask me.

Just ban religion bruv

Zoroastrianism permitted incest between first step relatives so it's fine

>>2862084
How is it incest if they're step siblings