/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2588623
>I‘m from Swaziland
You're not, that country is called Eswatini since almost a decade. Besides, Eswatini is an actual monarchy and their King supports Israel.

>>2588231
>I think the difference between you and me is that I wouldn't blindly defend my nation.
Yeah wou will blindly defend other nations cause of "anti-imperialism" lmao

>>2588687
So I can‘t be from the beautiful nation of Swaziland because I choose to call it Swaziland? I don‘t know man. Maybe I just like to cling to the past, similar to how you put on the DDR flag despite its collapse 30 years ago.

Now tell me the amount of arms and weapon systems Swaziland has sent to Israel.

>>2588687
The Communist Party still calls it Swaziland because it views the decree to change the name as illegitimate since it was done by the Monarchy.

>>2588073
>non-voters
Yeah among those with voting rights, non-voters are the biggest "party" in Germany so to speak. Just like pretty much with any modern liberal democracy.

>>2588687
OH SNAP.

>>2588607
>he says socialism requires a strong, rational state, he didn't argue for universal or compulsory party membership.

a perfect state has universal membership. its the perfect position for bureacratic ML states without dismantling their bureacracies (which will never happen)

>>2588614
>a perfect state has universal membership
Okay but that is your conjecture, not Peter Hacks. Universal party membership contradicts Hegel’s state theory because the state’s universality is mediated and rational, not totalizing.

>>2588624

you are correct.

But I also heard that in the former Eastern Bloc it was felt that improving the state into perfection was the path towards communism. In my view that seems totalitarian.

>>2588540
Yes but unironically. Nazism needs to be eradicated on a genetic level.

>>2588642

It is indeed totalitarian conceptually.

For a Proletarian Dictatorship to truly triumph, it must come to encompass all of society; Nothing must be outside it or against it.

And it is by this process, as OP hinted at, that the state itself, defined in the Marxist sense as the instrument of class power itself can wither away.

The yet harder pill to swallow is that any totalitarian state almost also itself come to resemble something close to Proletarian Dictatorship. That is to say class collaborationism will never actually achieve what the corporatists say they want it to achieve (comprehensive social harmony analogous to a healthy body); Only something resembling the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can ever hope to lead to anything close to such an outcome.

red shambala is a psyop by white american petit-bourgeois theorley MList dengoid deprogramslop enjoyers who see communism as a mere aesthetic choice and who do not care in the slightest for materialism or marxist doctrine.
it would be just as easy to make such edits featuring obscure, edgy, and esoteric looking symbols and concepts of a materialist, scientific, and marxist nature.
there's lots of crazy stuff about space, quantum physics, even fricking posadist aliens would be more realistic and accurate than buddhist tibetan serfdom ass lamaslop with a sickle poorly shopped rotating around it.

>>2586061
The original meme that Red Shambhala parodies is in reference to "Agartha", which I think is supposed to be this magical aryan kingdom or something inside a hollow earth, hence the song (Do you come from a land) Down Under

>>2588928
>can't go one sentence without bringing up the deprogram
obsessed

Can someone post the original image of the black sun with crescents?

>>2588928
touch grass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Korea

Looks like some of the recent death rate calculations are wrong as well; They don't match the deaths/population ratio at all.

>>2453271
the og video had sources for that, i think this is the main part

South Korean president considers an apology to North Korea over past leafletting and drone use
OUTH KOREAN President Lee Jae Myung said today that he’s weighing up a possible apology to North Korea over suspicions that his ousted right-wing predecessor intentionally sought to raise military tensions in the build up to his brief martial law declaration in December 2024.

Speaking to reporters on the first anniversary of former President Yoon Suk Yeol’s ill-fated power grab, Mr Lee stressed his desire to repair ties with North Korea.

A special prosecutor charged Mr Yoon and two of his top defence officials last month over allegations that he ordered drone flights over North Korea to stoke tensions.

South Korean media also reported on Monday that South Korea’s military under Mr Yoon’s presidency flew balloons carrying propaganda leaflets across the border.

Despite possible domestic political repercussions, Mr Lee insists that he personally wishes to apologise to North Korea.

He said: “I do think we need to apologise, but I haven’t been able to say so because I worry it could be used to smear (me) as pro-North Korean or spark political ideological battles” in South Korea.

Since taking office in June, President Lee has taken steps to ease inter-Korean tensions, including turning off front-line loudspeakers that blared K-pop and world news and banning activists from flying balloons carrying propaganda leaflets across the border.

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>>2588957
damn a south korean president with a decent nk policy? or maybe they're just spooked that the nork just got modern combat experience in russia and are setting up drone factories and they dont want to suffer an ukraine fate

>>2589152

These are just symbolic gestures. The military drills remain in place, their constitution stipulates the Southern government is the sole legitimate one that must absorb the whole peninsula, etc.

>>2588718
>the idea of a unified "white" race is entirely a product of the 20th century
No, its a product of the late 17th century. By then colonial records in Virginia recorded "Whites".
>considering italian-americans and irish-americans were still second-class citizens not too long ago
Italians and Irish were considered "the negros of the whites", meaning they were still considered white even if ultimately inferior to other whites.

>>2588511
Koreans are just naturally light skinned. It's sun exposure during the summer and manual labor that makes a lot of Koreans look darker. I know several Korean people who live in countries closer to the north than SK and they are pale af.

>>2588709
According to ancient Greece, Europe was just Greece, according to Romans, it was Italy and Greece, Northerners were called milkies.

Reminder that Marco Polo described East Asians as having the same skin color as he has. Reminder that there was a Japanese immigrant in early 20th century America that almost succesfully won a whiteness debate before an US court to be considered eligible for US citizenship. Reminder that 19th century European scholars were major hinduboos (compareable to modern weeaboos) and thats why the term "Aryan" was adopted for Indo-European languages. Reminder that the Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons since the 8th century.

>>2588931
>Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons
well, more because they lost them and got colonized

>>2588031
>slop artists
>>2588469
>Seriously what crawled up your ass to hate artists so much, leftypol?
Seething neoliberal technocrats ("I am not a Marxist" - Karl Marx) can't help but tell on themselves about their soulless, inhumane nature. These degenerates who put scare quotes around the word "art" like it doesn't exist literally define their entire personality around hating literacy:
<The People Who Don’t Read Books
<https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/kanye-west-sam-bankman-fried-books-reading/672823/
<In an ill-conceived profile from September, published on the Sequoia Capital website, the 30-year-old Sam Bankman-Fried rails against literature of any kind, lecturing a journalist on why he would “never” read a book. “I’m very skeptical of books,” he expands. “I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. I think, if you wrote a book, you fucked up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.”
…
<It is one thing in practice not to read books, or not to read them as much as one might wish. But it is something else entirely to despise the act in principle. Identifying as someone who categorically rejects books suggests a much larger deficiency of character. As Kanye once riffed (prophetically) during a live performance, “I get my quotes from movies because I don’t read”
"deficiency of character" yep that's Leftypol dot org slash leftypol

>>2588353
>either make art for the organization, to push forward proletarian association, or kill yourself
Trots: "kill yourself"
also Trots: (entirely consistent with neoliberalism against the "Stalinist authoritarians" who oppress their utopian free markets for individual consumers to do free association) "Black Friday Sale! Get 15% off your entire purchase at Liberation Store with coupon code Comrade"
https://xcancel.com/pslnational/status/1993760533611270296

>>2588031
Nobody cares about the rights of large corporations. You're willfully confabulating "I have moral rights over my individual creative work" with "Disney ought to have legal and moral rights over the works of long-dead employees" either out of stupidity or out of seethe at artists.
Post less, reflect more.

>>2588425
It's a pernicious case because if you start from an unsympathetic viewpoint that's precisely what it looks like (they're selling an artisan product!!), even though it ultimately operates on the same logic as believing that uber drivers, deliveroo drivers, doordash drivers, etc, really are "self employed".

>>2588456
It matters because /leftypol/'s lack of sympathy comes from their own imageboard-user identity, which is unsympathetic to those categories while feeling superior to them.

>>2588031
I will never forget that that shitty picture you posted comes from reddit

>>2588362
Shut the fuck up, you dumb liberal artist.

>>2589035
>>2589124
same poster btw

Cuba is a shithole overrun by CIA ideology but Vietnam has recently made surprising moves of rapprochmont with China. So I'd say Vietnam is socialist.

Is it easier to learn vietnamese or chinese? I'm a latino looking to save money and get the fuck out of latam.

Cuba is one of two genuine socialist economies I the world (the other being the DPRK). Vietnam more or less follows the Chinese model which I would argue is a valid means of socialist construction but is more strictly speaking a form of state capitalism (as Lenin used the term).
>>2589134
>Cuba is a shithole overrun by CIA ideology
Wtf does that mean?
>Vietnam has recently made surprising moves of rapprochmont with China. So I'd say Vietnam is socialist.
Socialism is when you have good relations with China.
>>2589135
With Vietnamese you at least wouldn't need to learn a new writing system.

I want a Cucker Carlson Maduro interview but I know it wont happen.

>>2587325
At this point it seems like the admin is having a hard time managing its priority targets and the burden of commitments across multiple theaters. They're trying to wind down involvement in Ukraine, but the problem there is if they just cut and run its a diplomatic disaster and threatens to cede a total victory to Russia as the Ukr gov refuses to negotiate even in the face of a progressive collapse of the front line.

Israel is also acting aggressively in Lebanon and Syria and they definitely want to resume fighting Iran, and so the US has to be ready to respond in case things go explosively sideways there. Syria itself is a seething cauldron where conflicting goals between Turkey and Israel are creating conditions which might lead to open conflict between them, and the encroachment of both is pissing of Syrians as they watch their country get carved up and colonized in real time. The real danger though is that Israel is a nuclear armed paper tiger, armed with the latest in weapons technology and headed by reckless psychopaths while being surrounded by much more populous neighbors and possessing no strategic depth. So the US has to be Johnny-on-the-spot because of the very real possibility of Israel overcommitting to a conflict it can't win, things taking a catastrophic turn, and deciding to treat the region to a little nuclear hellfire.

More worrisome still is the growing influence of Russia and China in Africa. Isis is more or less a yanky proxy force and between Russian mercenary support, Chinese infrastructural development, and western militaries being shown the door by popular military governments, nato influence on the continent is becoming more and more tenuous while their need for access to cheap and plentiful resources on their terms grows by the day.

As for Washington itself, White House, Pentagon, et al, there seems to be real confusion about what problems to focus on and how exactly to deal with them. It seems like there are elements in the military that are at least uncomfortable about the notion of murdering civilians without at least the pretense of a legal military justification. They're in conflict with the meat heads like Hegseth that seem to have this vae victis "try and stop us" mentality, oblivious to the concerns from the people they want pulling the trigger that however shit shakPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2586893
>>2587117
both those say maduro cheated, its just the first one has such a retarded obfuscating language its hard to decipher
why would you trust a usa professor part of their regime change campaign (which literally happen at every single one of their elections, and you can check who she thank : a bunch of gusanos actively involved in slandering venezuela and chavism) with no access to the actual material evidence and that couldnt be bothered to move her ass to the country is another question entirely

>>2587739
Fair enough, I didn't finish the first one, I found it hard to care about voting machine and process mumbo-jumbo.
The line should be that Maduro staying in power undemocraticaly I'd currently better than the alternative either way.
>>2587561
>Syria itself is a seething cauldron where conflicting goals between Turkey and Israel are creating conditions which might lead to open conflict between them
Nah. Israel won't go into the north, turkey won't go into the south. Their goals in Syria are not mutualy exclusive.

>>2589116
>The line should be that Maduro staying in power undemocraticaly I'd currently better than the alternative either way.
no the line should be thats all this noise about cheating is an obvious cia psyop like they do literally every time, why the fuck would you concede their falsehoods?

>>2589048
>God damn it they don't need to "break" with the Dems.
You're right, they only need to do so if they're actually serious about wanting socialism, which they probably aren't.
>You don't understand how the party system actually works in America when you say shit like this.
Winning elections is pointless if it's done by allying with hostile class forces and pursuing a hostile class agenda. The point of an independent working class party is not to immediately start winning elections. That could theoretically happen under the right conditions, but the primary goal is for workers to gain a mass political understanding of themselves as a class with its own goals and needs, and that can't happen if they are shackled to bourgeois parties.
>Stop obsessing over how they endorse candidates that run on the democratic ticket.
They can endorse whoever they please, but I'm correct to say that an organization that endorses bourgeois candidates is not socialist.
>It's a legitimate strategy and it works.
It works to elect Democrats. It doesn't work to elect socialists. Do we need to go over AOC's many many legislative betrayals again?

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>>2589048
>because they are a democratic centralist organization
kek
dem cent was BANNED in DSA till the last convention

i am aware of that ballot tickets are non binding, but when you start having succesful candidates like Mamdani being forced to run as Democrats the Democrats will inevitably siphon them off

thats why the clean break is necessary

>gig workers are petit bourgeois because semantics
AAAAAAAAGGH YAAAAAAAARRRGGHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGG

>>2587616
You are still a goldbug, don't worry. Gold is an intermediary step that's acceptable for everybody

>>2578936
>wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal
LOL

>>2588870
The DPRK doesn't have a bourgeois democrat election model.

>>2588839
This is my position on Maduro too, even if he did rig the erections its still better than the alternative who would destroy the revolution.

>>2578974
many such cases (actually all such cases)