/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2584765
they were never against imperialism as they see it as based subjugation of inferiors, they are just against any perceived jewery controlling them, but thanks for the mask off moment.

>>2584761
LaRouche was doing his thing years ago when it was a mortal sin to even look at the Zionist entity wrong.

>>2584777
To take this lucky post even further I would say modern anti Zionism wouldn't exist without LaRouche.
He carried the torch before the internet came, when mass information (Hollywood, NYT) was all controlled by the Zionist entity.
He walked so everyone from Ms. Rachel to all of us here can run.

the zoomer slander so played out on this board, the self diagnosis as replacement for personality clique is def a thing but its literally just one clique you might as well say everyone below the age of 25 is scammer or stoner since those are also now cliques in high school/college

>>2584755
>LaRouche did some good shit. He was a very outspoken opponent to Zionism
Argumentum ad Zionism. Try again retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDyqNocp14

This is very good, I recommend comrades watch.

>>2584417
Titled: Why MAGA is not working class. Feat John Bellamy Foster.

Dr. Foster speaks very well on the issue.

>>2583110
I bet that never gets changed.

>>2584182
Chyna collapse(TM) is copyrighted. expect a lawsuit for using the those words too loosely.

>>2584375
Also in the same polls have the most positive reception to "socialism" and the highest group to oppose War with Venezuela. It is less a moderate group but more that the bloc chooses moderate candidates.

>Jacobin not on board with Venezuela invasion
>complete silence from every ""leftist"" org that got clapped by GrayZone for being NED funded
Damn… Trump cuts have been brutal, haven't they.

*ring ring*
>Hello?
>Hello? …… Anyone there?
<Hi Nick, it's nothing ever happens calling

TACO

honestly this entire situation is just so blackpilling and completely exposes how mighty the bourgeois have gotten in the past years. their leader is a literal child rapist and theres nothing we can do. they have full power at this point

>>2584116
I like how comically old fashioned the phone is

>>2576810
>Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?
semi related with Kurdish groups in Iraq that have supported the Kurdish groups in Syria, financially, militarily, and politically. also, the plants in Iraq have processed in those refineries and plants in the past, which makes me wonder if the attack was to sabotage any Kurdish income.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit: One force will join the army, the other will ensure public order
Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, Deputy Group Chair of the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party), who was among the members of the Parliamentary Commission who met with Leader Apo in İmralı, stated that Syria was evaluated comprehensively by Leader Apo during the meeting, but this was not reflected in the minutes in Parliament, and that Leader Apo presented a formula for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

Speaking to Cansu Çamlıbel of T24, Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit said that Leader Apo warned that if democratization is not achieved in Syria, Ahmed al-Shara, the head of the transitional administration, could turn into a dictator.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, who reported that Leader Apo presented a formula for the SDF during the meeting, said, "He says the military force could be integrated into the army, and that the region could have its own security forces. In fact, while discussing this, he said, 'I think there are watchmen in Türkiye.' What he meant was, 'One power center will join the army, and another power will establish the local defense line and ensure security.'"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit stated that Önder Apo did not say to the YPG that he would unconditionally lay down all his weapons and disband himself like the PKK, and that this was not true.

'"IF DEMOCRATIZATION DOES NOT HAPPEN, SHARA WILL ALSO TURN INTO A DICTATOR"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, stating that Leader Apo made an assessment of the Assad family dynasty since the time of Hafez Assad in Syria, said the following:

"They became a family dynasty. And we see that Syria is the most wounded, most painful region in the region. Today, they say Sharaa has transformed. If he has truly transformed, then democratization is necessary," he said. "But if democratization doesn't happen, Sharaa will also turn into a dictator," he said. "We know what can happen in such a situation," he said.

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Soverign Nation Complex
Actually, I could have titled it "Supremacy Complex." This condition is also referred to in socialist literature as "chauvinism" and "social-chauvinism." Undoubtedly, Kurds living within the borders of the Republic of Turkey know very well what these concepts mean. They have learned this firsthand over the last 100 years.

Therefore, Kurds weren't surprised to hear CHP Chairman Özgür Özel, speaking with some arrogance from the podium of the party he was re-elected to, using the terms "Stockholm Syndrome" and "falling in love with your executioner." Nor were they surprised to hear his words, "Why is everything being tied to İmralı?" directed at Kurdish People's Leader Abdullah Öcalan, whom over 10 million Kurds had signed 15 years ago, declaring "My Political Will."

In fact, Özgür Özel's remarks made it much clearer why the CHP refused to include a member in the National Solidarity, Brotherhood, and Democracy Commission, established by the Turkish Grand National Assembly, which traveled to İmralı on November 24th to hold valuable discussions with Leader Abdullah Öcalan on the Peace and Democratic Society Process. Clearly, the CHP was rejecting the will of the Kurds as the chief negotiator. Furthermore, an "Apo complex" was lurking within the CHP leadership and its ranks. It also became clear why they frequently traveled to meet with Selahattin Demirtaş.

We certainly don't know who Özgür Özel meant by the term "executioner." However, the kinds of meetings he held with the AKP leadership under the guise of "normalization" as soon as he became party chairman are still fresh in our memories. Regarding working with the MHP, we advise him to look back to the periods when Bülent Ecevit and Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu were party leaders.

The CHP's "Arrogance of Grandeur" isn't actually very different from the chauvinist approaches of the AKP and MHP. All Kurds have learned this from decades of humiliation and contempt. It could be argued that no dominant nation in the world has ever exerted a level of racist-chauvinistic oppression on the Kurds, nor has any other national community. Books could be cited for this, but further explanation is unnecessary, lest it damage the positive atmosphere inherent in the Peace and Democratic Society Process we are currently experiencing.

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https://www.reuters.com/investigations/assads-exiled-spy-chief-billionaire-cousin-plot-syrian-uprisings-russia-2025-12-05/

Interesting story

>>2584719
Assad's exiled spy chief and billionaire cousin plot Syrian uprisings from Russia
From exile in Moscow, ex-intel chief Kamal Hassan and Assad cousin Rami Makhlouf are spending millions of dollars in competing efforts to build fighting forces that would lead a revolt along Syria’s coast. They are also vying for control of a network of 14 underground command rooms stocked with arms and ammunition that were built in the dictatorship’s last days. Syria's government has deployed another former Assad insider – a childhood friend of the new president – to neutralize the plotters.

Summary

Aren't the communists all in Razem anyway?

>>2584397
a lot of funding from cia to anti communist catholics, and they've indeed always been nationalist retards

>>2584343
had they won we'd have two israels

>>2584397
communism is mutually exclusive with polish racial nature

>>2583336
>>2583336
>to marx, they are, as a component of total price matching total value, by the equalisation of the rate of profit. he writes this explicitly,
lol no he doesn't
please start saying "my interpretation of marx, who i havent read"

I HAVE REALIZED THE TRUTH OF HOW OUR WORLD WORKS
MAXIMUM POWER PRINCIPLE CAUSES THE RISE OF NATIONS
CATABOLLIC COLLAPSE CUASES THE FALL OF NATIONS
CREATIVE DESTRUCTION CAUSES THE REBIRTH OF NATIONS.
I REALIZE NOW I SEE

>>2584191
Im being unironic btw. (seriously I think this explains how the world kinda works)

>>2584191
maximum power principle
the nations who produce the most maximized and efficent energy usage and capture will be the ones who dominate
we saw this with rome, victorian era britain and modern usa
the industrial revolution for example being a great example of energy usage
then this keeps going
jevon paradox happens where the rise of more efficent and better energy usages
ends up causing more and more energy usage until finally reaching limits
then catabolic collapse happens
the only way such energy usage can be done is through complexliuty
complexity of political, economic and social institutions
this leads to losts of costs (corruption, maintenance or other costs)
eventually as growth reaches the limits, costs will now become greater than growth
and thus the nation starts decaying
it starts collapsing
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>>2584203
>>2584191
in "econophysics" terms, we can say that productive labour conserves energy, while unproductive labour expends free energy. creating complexity requires a closed system to regenerate itself, while also increasing energy transfer. if we put too much energy into one sector (e.g. invest too much capital), it burns out (loses profit) and causes the system to shut down (like how watering one plant kills the garden, and the plant itself). if we transfer energy to different sectors we generate greater complexity (division of labour, or in keynesian terms, the marginal efficiency of capital) which is able to catalyse energy. so then, a closed system is necessary, but not too closed, since it breaks the circuit. creating more circuits creates a positive feedback loop which amplifies efficiency.
>>2584174
interpret this statement for me:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society […] is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
total price = total value
it shouldnt be controversial, since this is the prevailing conclusion of smith, ricardo and jevons. its also economic common sense to austrian economists, since one cannot produce without means of creating value (i.e. utility is the limit of production - j.b. say, 1802) due to economic faculties. so you appear to be denying something every economist is forced to agree on, including marx, yet you do this to defend marx? as i say, you are confused, but not just confused; irrational.

YOU ARE NOTHING
YOUR CRITIQUE IS BASED IN NOTHING
YOU ARE A HUMIST SOLIPSIST
KILL YOURSELF

Based

i never became a cop or a troop, and i am a huge leech on the system by being a lazy piece of shit. if the whole country followed this praxis, the american empire would be finished.

i bashed feminists on the internet

I argue with people on anonymous image boards until we have achieved ideological purity

>>2584162
At least when I do it's intentional

>>2584038
fpbp

Берем?

>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя

Where are the russian protests against the involvement of their state in the Sudan genocide?

>>2582414
>Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia.

Its pretty simple really, people care more about palestine because its closer to europe and as such more relevant to westerners than sudan or somalia.
Its like wondering why someone in the congo didn't give a shit about the troubles in northern ireland

>>2583293
>I've never understood why the western left places so much significance on Israel-Palestine.
The Palestine struggle used to be led by the PLO, socdem nationalists funded by the USSR. It's cold war legacy.

>>2582414
People pay more attention to Gaza because their own governments are actively complicit in backing Israel. Sudan is a murkier case because the Russians, al-Qaeda, and other African states are involved. You can protest Gaza because your government has actual leverage over Israel, which isn't the case with Sudan. There is a lot more exposure to Palestine because of cultural ties with Israel (people are constantly asked to apologize for Israel and condemn Hamas). Kashmiris are even more light skinned and "caucasian white-adjacent" than the average Palestinian but the Western left rarely talks about them. Afghans are very light skinned but you saw more people protest the Iraq war than oppose the Afghan one and even leftists treated Afghans as backward savage pedophiles. So its not a simple skin color thing okay.

Palestine has also become a left wing cause in a way Sudan, Somalia, Kashmir etc. have not. Leftists have become pro-Palestine out of herd mentality and there's a generation of Palestinian activists in the West that pander to the woke center left crowd. The Sudanese diaspora is much smaller and not as well connected. Leftists don't give a shit because its not a hot button issue and they are more fixated on how bad NATO is etc. Since Trump came to office, he's ramped up drone strikes in Africa but whenever you see woke center left progressives talk about the War on Terror they use the past tense, as if its all in the past and doesn't happen anymore. Americans and Europeans are generally extremely egocentric and don't care about issues they can't be connected to. There's no obvious connection with Sudan, so they don't care.

There's a kind of third world phobia too. Sudanese and Kashmiris are overhwelmingly rural, socially conservative, and religious Muslims. All of these are things Western wokies hate in their own society (see classist jokes about how retarded rural Americans are and rednecks etc). Even if they hate Hamas, they generally see Palestinians as people who can be romantic noble savage indigenous people who will one day grow up to be progressive, queer, and urban etc. Few Sudanese or Kashmiris speak English and use social media, most are rural farmers etc. so Westoids never see them and dismiss them as dumb hicks.

>>2584563
>Sudan is a murkier case because the Russians, al-Qaeda, and other African states are involved.
I sure whished communists in Russia would protests against the genocide in Sudan.