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>Wants the Party to lead the revolution
So far so good

>Wants to establish councils/re-establish multiparty elections within the scope of socialism once the revolution abolishes capitalism

So far so good

>Wants to be worldwide so that the bourgeoisie can't establish itself somewhere else

So far so good

What's actually wrong with them ? Seems pretty consistent desu

>inb4 look at what they did during the 20/21th century!!!

The ML actions don't seem to have been this excellent too
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>>2591280
It's more about the extremely negative experiences people have with trot parties, tbh.

>>2591280
Beyond constantly splitting over everything when they supposedly agree with democratic centralism, the main problem was Trotsky. He was supported by the capitalist west because he constantly spread anti-Stalin and anti-USSR propaganda, tried to stir up terrorism inside the USSR and even advocated breaking up the USSR right after Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia. All because his ego couldn't handle being exiled and he needed to be in charge.
After he finally died Trotskyist parties were just anti-USSR communists that capitalists let hang around in order to split the movement as much as possible and they have been easily ignored ever since.

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>>2591280
The reason trotskyism appeared in the first place is because it was a wrecker group that undermined the role of the party as the command center of the working class and believed that socialist construction in the Soviet Union was impossible. No wonder westoids loved it so much.



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I'm probably going to get jumped but uh regardless, I'm feeling very frustrated because a lot of the more far left people i listen to keep saying to stop supporting stuff like DSA and junk and move to something more radical. but then they don't offer anything more radical, so we're just stuck in this feedback loop and i feel frustrated because i genuinely want to help. They keep saying that my arguments for not working on non-viable stuff is flawed but then they don't offer any alternatives and it's driving me up the wall. My main hope is that if a Dem Teaparty goes off, we can work on building actual space for third parties post trump. But I'm struggling on ways to do that, if any of you have any basic starter groups for a noobie demsoc like me please let me know. I wouldn't be here if i wasn't desperate
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>>2589387
Just be wary of any “oldheads”

>>2589217
That one anon is schizo
But yeah join some local org the DSA is fine. There's plenty of MLs in it.

>>2589392
You aren’t passing out “free candy” on my watch. Get.

>>2588894
I'm kind of in a similar situation to OP where people keep telling me to do direct action. But then they don't offer any examples of it and instead just keep saying "DSA is le bad" on repeat, So we're just stuck in a rock and a hard place. B.E live's latest video is a good example where he glazes Calla Walsh
but then doesn't tell people how to be like her.

>>2588894
this is directed at the thread in general and the glowies here:
1: Individually we can't solve the social issues we face
1.a Therefore our work needs to be done collectively and systematically rather than individually
2. Our first step as scattered communists is to gather ourselves together, since we at least know that the work (whatever it's nature) has to be done together
3. Communists alone, who are a small minority of the population, can't effect change alone, and especially not change that puts a majority class in power. It requires the active participation of a much larger segment of the working class.
3.a. Therefore we have to get a much larger segment of the working class on board with what we know needs to be done. This work can be generally described as education and organization
4. The existing state enforces bourgeois power and the exploitation of the working class.
4.a Therefore we need to at some point take material actions against the existing state
5. To put it all together, we need to unite as communists first, for the task of systematically educating the proletariat, and their education is towards the ends of taking effective action against the state in order to constitute our own state, and to use a new workers state to keep down the bourgeoisie and transform society

Step one is finding each other. Arguments about what collective action to take have no place getting in the way of step one, because they're a later issue. If you're an isolated communist them step one is getting hooked in. Afterwards you can argue about what to do. But generally everyone has similar ideas. Just be ware of adventurists who think communists can do everything alone, and movementists/liquidationists who deny the role of conscious communists and our collective action altogether in changing society.

Anyone who denies this is a fed



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>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2591637 (me)
forgot pic

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>>2591638
inb4 the ACP itself splinters off into effectively 2 pieces, one being just the CPUSA but they're on the internet now, and the other being somehow even more racist and anti-electoralist



 

US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
Two US officials told Reuters the operation was led by the US Coast Guard, but did not name the tanker or say specifically where the interception happened. A senior Trump administration official told Bloomberg that the US had conducted a “judicial enforcement action on a stateless vessel” that was last docked in Venezuela.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/us-forces-reportedly-seize-oil-tanker-off-venezuela-coast

Former Bolivian President Arce arrested in corruption investigation
Bolivian law enforcement officials on Wednesday arrested former President Luis Arce as part of a corruption investigation, the country’s vice president said on social media, opening an uncertain new chapter in Bolivia’s politics just a month after the inauguration of conservative President Rodrigo Paz ended 20 years of socialist rule.
https://apnews.com/article/bolivia-luis-arce-arrested-corruption-65566acd1d5cacbd9d650c40394da631

Honduran election turmoil grows as president decries 'electoral coup'
Honduran President Xiomara Castro on Tuesday denounced what she called an "electoral coup" unfolding amid a chaotic vote count from the November 30 presidential election, as hundreds of protesters gathered in the streets of the capital Tegucigalpa to demand clarity over the vote count. The election has been marked by technical failures, unsubstantiated fraud claims and a shadow cast by U.S. President Donald Trump, who has threatened to withdraw funding for the Central American nation if his preferred candidate is not successful.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-backed-asfura-leads-honduras-presidential-race-preliminary-count-nears-end-2025-12-09/

Bill that could reduce Brazilian ex-President Jair Bolsonaro’s prison time advances in Congress
The bill now goes to the Senate. The bill’sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Tybna 🥰

why are cambodia and thailand fighting?

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Thanks News Anon

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>>US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
nothing will happen..

>>2591413
this chapo ep specifically getting the newsanon bump is very funny and cool lol. TYBNA



 

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>>2584219
Ngl if you did this as a trade union banner, it would look pretty sick.

https://xcancel.com/WhiteRoseSocAU/status/1998189853826289765

<Antifascist alert Telegram channels - join and share the links with comrades and friends

<Melbourne: t.me/AFAAlertsNaarm previous channel was censored, please resubscribe
<Sydney: t.me/antifaalertssydney
<Brisbane: t.me/antifaalertsmeanjin

Naarm (Melbourne) channel has been newly recreated. Gadigal (Sydney) channel has been newly created. The bot mentions a Woolongong one with no activity this year. Meanjin (Brisbane) channel has occasional activity.

>>2591443
Exercise utmost caution in these chats. They'll definitely be infiltrated by fascists themselves


>>2591556
I don't use Telegram but I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter since they're channels and not groups, and I'd assume that only channel admins can post.
>Reactions are anonymous in channels, because followers are anonymous, unlike groups, where you can see who's included in a group.

Good instinct though. Being security-conscious is important.



 

Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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>>2588839
This is my position on Maduro too, even if he did rig the erections its still better than the alternative who would destroy the revolution.

>>2578974
many such cases (actually all such cases)

Election protests in Honduras as Congress panel vows not to validate result

Officials of a Honduras Congress panel threatened on Wednesday not to validate the result of a Nov. 30 presidential election, citing an "electoral coup" and "interference" by U.S. President Donald Trump, as counting stretched into an 11th day.

While the ruling LIBRE leftist party has no chance of winning the election, it is throwing its support behind Salvador Nasralla, of the center-right Liberal party, who has also alleged fraud and said he has won the election.
It is unclear if Wednesday's declaration by the permanent commission of Congress, which escalates the election crisis, could be enough to annul the results, which must be validated by two of the three members of the National Electoral Council.

With more than 99% of ballots counted, conservative Nasry Asfura of the National Party was about 40,000 votes ahead of Nasralla of the Liberal Party, while LIBRE candidate Rixi Moncada was a distant third.
But inconsistencies in roughly 15% of the tally sheets require further review, heightening the political suspense, as those could be sufficient to sway the election outcome.

<could honduras become the 1st country to defy the us under trump?




 

Living in an housing complex with 20 people and 2 showers, a sense of control is needed, if there was 30 showers, there would be no control needed.

Abundance and public ownership would create less of a need for police. I get that, but really I can't see the abolition of police because some guy will get always get drunk and do stupid shit
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Citizen militias brutalize and kill people just like cops do. The CHAZ disaster comes to mind.

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>muh cops
Cops are just the enforcers of the ruling class, if the ruling class is the bourgeoisie they represent their interests against ours, if the ruling class is the proletariat they'll represent our interests, being concerned about the police as an essentially negative thing is libshit. The American police force is particularly bad and militarized however, being something like the third or fourth largest army in the world

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Police are controlled by the liberal elite capitalist class to beat suppress an kill black, brown, and poor white people

>>2591600
You can just say poor people. They aren't out there beating and killing the OJ Simpsons of the world. Reminder that idpol minded Americans celebrated his acquittal at the time. I spoke to an old black guy about it once, he said he and his friends were ecstatic that a rich black guy could get away with the same shit as a rich white man. He said even back then he thought he did it though.



 

South Yemen secessionists, supported by the UAE, are crushing the Saudi puppet state and took over most of the cities in the Southern part of the country, also taking control of the Oman-Yemen border. But the Southern Transitional Council isn't communist like was South Yemen, and fully supports the Palestinian genocide:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/us/2025/09/24/southern-independence-opens-door-to-ties-with-israel-says-yemens-al-zubaidi/

>Transitional Council chief says Abraham Accords will be key to stability after Gaza war

Declaring an independent southern Yemeni state would pave the way for entering the Abraham Accords, the deputy chairman of Yemen's Presidential Council Aidarous Al Zubaidi told The National in an interview.

>The president of the Southern Transitional Council said all the conditions were in place for statehood and added that secession would allow the south to make its own foreign policy decisions, including the option of joining the Abraham Accords.


>“Before the events in Gaza, we were advancing towards joining the Abraham Accords,” he said. “If Gaza and Palestine regain their rights, the Accords will be essential for stability in the region. When we have our southern state, we will make our own decisions and I believe we will be part of these accords.”


>Yemen's eight-member Presidential Council leads the anti-Houthi, internationally recognised government in exile in Aden. The secessionist Southern Transitional Council holds three of those eight seats.


>Mr Al Zubaidi framed independence not just as a local aspiration but as part of a wider commitment to stability in the region. “We support the two-state solution – a Yemeni state in the north and in the south – and a Palestinian state alongside Israel,” he said. “Self-determination is a right. All people have the right to determine their future.”
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>>2591019
>Indeed, Brigadier General Tareq Saleh has claimed that this offensive was to unite the millitary theater in order to prepare to fight the Houthis.
who is this guy allied with? the saudi backed government?

>>2591261
>Already Houthis have essentially no chance of beating the STC any time soon, even if they take out the gov.
why?

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>>2591352
Instead of a corrupt and hollowed government with a shitty Saudi support, they are against an army in the middle of a huge national-secessionist movement that took most of the country in a week with huge support from UAE. Iran and Hezbollah are weakened, STC control mosts ports and roads toward Houthis territory.
Houthis are taking a defensive stance and isolating themselves: today they detonated the roads towards STC areas rather than looking for a fight

>>2591419
does stc have popular support across the south? how effective are they at governing?

>>2591295
South Yemen is obviously not a socialist movement, they're merely taking the flag of the old socialist state, but they are openly anti-socialists.
>>2591352
STC are a well equipped and well organised army that just defeated the government, Houthis are fairly good defensively, but I think even taking the remnants of the Gov will be costly enough for them, beyond that, they are also exhausted by their fight with the west, and even Iran probably doesn't want to spend to much ressources to make them win, finally, if it seemed as if they were going to win, the west would intervene because they obviously don't want them in control of the very important south Yemen.



 

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MODERN DAY BRUTALITY ON A WORLDWIDE SCALE

The policy (the so-called 'War on Drugs') is built on a gross deception: that drugs other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine comprise a unique group of substances that present an unacceptable risk to health and welfare. This is wholly incorrect: alcohol and tobacco are the most dangerous drugs in existence. The criminalisation of associations with substances other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine creates a criminal underclass that is the resource for the strategy.

The so-called 'War on Drugs' has absolutely nothing to do with drug use or drug-related harm of any kind: it is purely a worldwide economic system based on intentionally-created crime.

It results in mass imprisonment, fining, asset forfeiture, execution, wars, state-sanctioned murder and endemic violence etc. It provides the pretext under which huge sums of public money are allocated and sustains a massively profitable black market in substances other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine.

The US oppresses its own citizens under the name of the policy and this oppression extends worldwide, with governments forced to oppress their own citizenry or be chastised and threatened by the US through the United Nations.

Those who profit from or otherwise wish for the so-called 'War on Drugs' to continue constantly proffer the falsehood that the strategy is related to substance use and the prevention and minimisation of drug-related harm. Those who profit from the oppression of others include but are not limited to enforcement organisations and the prison industry, the legal and welfare systems, academia and a plethora of other industries.

The phenomenon continues due to the power and ruthlessness of the US and its ability to generate economic activity. Its true motives are kept hidden via the mass complicity of governments, the press and those who profit from it.
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>>2591578
settle down,beavis




>>2591580
What server?



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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>>2589867
Why are they surprised? Rojava is essentially at war with the rest of Syria and they no longer have the Americans to provide them with aid. They're on their own. I hope they make it.

>>2589869
>>2589869
On one hand I think HTS could crack them with Turkey but on the other I do not think Turkey would take the losses politically as bodybags coming home would exponentially increase. If anything the peace process w the PKK could be enough for Turkey to force their dogs in Damascus to heel.

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>>2587993
Something tells me the Alawites aren't as enthusiastic as they were at the start.

>>2591533
>mbs
what kind of fucking retarded subhuman do you have to be to equate him with saddam?



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