/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1902869
Eat shit and die. The so called "left" is so boring and predictable even in a space that should be a free for all. No wonder people in many countries doesn't want anything to do with it.

>>1902872
No way

>>1902872
If Le Pen gets elected, I swear to fucking God, I will stop being so polite to "third worldism bad!" shitters.

>>1902848
Anon, if that's your strategy you need to vote for whoever presents the biggest threat to either Labour or the Conservatives. So if there's a WPB candidate support them. If not, support Reform. If there is no WPB or Reform candidate standing just vote for whatever minor parties are on the ballot. Vote Communist or Monster Raving Loony or something.

>>1903178
Voting for reform as a communist is flat out retarded

>>1901522
most have petit bourgeois mentality due to owning their land and tools

>>1901505
>Posting genuine history about actual communism
<thats bait
every time

>>1901950
thats bait

Milei 🤝 Evo
https://www.bbc.com/mundo/articles/c4ngxn45y0yo
Milei calls Bolivian coup a farce

At least one settler is wounded in what appears to be a resistance shooting operation in the settlement of “Har Bracha” south of Nablus. The settler was sniped in the stomach from a long distance, according to zionist sources. The executor of the operation has not been identified.

The IOF admits that two of its officers were killed in yesterday's ambush in "Netzarim," while two other soldiers were seriously wounded. Over 200 mortar shells were fired at the IOF's headquarters in "Netzarim," which killed a deputy company commander and a platoon sergeant.

Hebrew Channel 12:
Head of the Shin Bet says that Israel is holding 21,000 Palestinian prisoners, although the prison capacity is only 14,500.
This number is much higher than the previously reported number of around 9,088.

IOF Reserve General Yitzhak Brik:
The stories from the "israeli" army claiming that we kill dozens or hundreds of fighters in every battle are a complete lie, as any fighter who has fought in the Gaza Strip will tell you they almost never encounter Hamas fighters face to face.
We destroy buildings, but we do not cause any harm to Hamas fighters, whom we do not fight face to face. Instead, we get hit by the explosives and traps they plant and the anti-tank missiles they launch.
The fighting in the Gaza Strip, which has lost its purpose, must stop immediately. Our soldiers are being killed and wounded in vain, and we are unable to bring Hamas to its knees because we cannot stay in the territories we have entered.
Netanyahu, Gallant, and Halevi should be stripped of their license to manage the war. This is akin to revoking the license of a drunk driver who has already run several red lights and caused a fatal accident. In such a case, the driver is immediately deprived of their license.

Red Cross:
The Gaza European Hospital in Khan Younis is unable to continue operating due to the evacuation of many employees and members of the medical, nursing and administrative staff following "israeli" evacuation orders.

In order to appease the International Criminal Court, the zionist Attorney General requested a criminal investigation into Itamar Ben-Gvir on charges of inciting violence against Gazans.
This morning, Ben-Gvir stated: "Since assuming my position as Minister of National Security, one of my highest priorities has been to worsen imprisonment conditions for [Palestinian] prisoners… I do not care about the international community’s anger regarding prison conditions."
The decision has been met with ridicule by zionist media. Ben-Gvir called it an "assassination attempt."
On a similar note, yesterday's release of dozens of tortured Palestinian prisoners from Gaza came in light of pressure from the zionist Supreme Court regarding the conditions of zionist concentration camps, in yet another attempt to appease criminal courts and whitewash genocide, despite the unabated shedding of the blood of tens of thousands of Gazans.

Fires have been burning for hours in "Kiryat Shmona" as a result of Hezbollah's large rocket barrage earlier today. Eight zionist firefighting crews have been working to extinguish the fires for several hours.

>>1903104
Based

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>>1900821
How is what he said disproving what I said?
If educational labour time adds to simple labour time to produce complex labour, then it doesn't matter if people have no formal education or haven't developed refined skills to teach. Their labour-time is still adding to simple labour. Their primitive nature is essentially irrelevant.

Also, no, he did not do simple calculations to prove me wrong. Please explain how anything that the spreadsheet showed challenged any of my arguments.

And (finally), let's examine this statement: both tailoring and weaving are products of labour and fulfil nutritional and psychological needs. Ok, that's great - doesn't have anything to do with the labour theory of value though. The critical question is: how do we determine which is worth more than the other? I concede that my original statement, "incomparable a priori", is too strong: what I should've said was that they cannot be appraised a priori without a market and subjective valuation. In other words, we cannot say which is worth more to society than the other. And, again, nothing about them both being products of labour or fulfiling psychological needs or being things the same person can do disprove that notion.

>>1902898
This is why marx appeals to "subsistence" in the reproduction of simple labour. "Necessary" goods fulfil the needs of his being, which is the minimum price of goods in comparison to wages.
Youre right that you cant "price" a good from the bottom-up based on the labour imported, but the (re)production of goods still pertain to the (re)production of society itself, in the worker.
This is why labour-power is the primal commodity of the capital process; its what everything else hinges on - so what is the price of labour-power? The cost of necessity.

>>1901927
Yes, but its dialectical within the logic of the commodity also, where Value is always indirectly attained by consumption (where capitalist consumption always implies overproduction). Where exchange-value is esteemed, use-value is sacrificed (just think of capitalist waste), and where use-value is promoted, exchange-value suffers (look at the poverty of the soviet union).
But these aspects of production also necessitate each other by the class relation in commodity production.
Proletarian consumption (C-M-C)
Capitalist production (M-C-M)
proletarians are only productive where they *consume* "productive capital" - the means of production

>>1899897
The Austrian School "attack" is a facile one an entry level philosophy student could dismantle, or anyone who is honest and approached the system in the same way classical political economy did. They're playing games with the infinitesimal and insinuating ad nauseum that it doesn't work, without regarding what a market actually is - that it is something overlaid on a real world, rather than a material phenomenon in of itself. That was always understood for political economy to be sensical, and one of the arguments from Capital is that political economy is a pseudoscience, basically. Of course, political economy was never really a science to begin with, and when there was a mathematical and scientific view of economics, it did not arise wholly from political economy. That was abandoned after Marx rather quickly.

There are so many flagrant errors against sense and reason in the Austrian School framework, but they care not, because it's a litany of insults to intelligence, from people who did not understand British political economy and had a case of Kraut s'pos'das and wanted to make reality a racial truth. Typical Germanoid insanity.

>labor theory of value
Isn't really the point. There are arguments against the law of value raised that aren't facile, then and now. The most common is to dispute that labor as a social relation is valued at all, or was ever equalized in principle. What is really valued is the stability of the state and city. The human beings are external to it. Only the contract and legal person is relevant to the concept of free trade, because free trade was never premised on a humanistic conceit about capital or anyone involved in this arrangement of society. The human subject could be replaced with an abstraction or any machine appropriate to the task and the working of stock would be the same. Smith's claim did not even place a mathematical value on labor, and Ricardo's assumptionw as a violent assumption. It was also one where Ricardo made clear that any complex society didn't actually work that way, and that even a primitive society would have developed a sense of something that doesn't enter commercial exchange. This is what Marx was critiquing as it was, rather than inventing a straw man, and Capital would be understood as if you were familiar with classical political econoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The point of placing the fount of value in labor was a moral claim rather than a material one - that it was human labor that was contested and the only reason why we had this thing called money or currency, and there have been various forms of money throughout history. Marx makes a point of this, which no one refutes or rejects with any seriousness, because it was basic to this question. The labor is valued more because it is a thing to be commanded, rather than the labor itself having any particular quality. The machines and things that are employed for labor are morally the same, but those distinctions are irrelevant because technology by definition was understood as something made by human beings. You'd have to make a leap that wasn't yet made - that technology itself was the object of interest, rather than stock or things. Part of Marx is making that claim - that "dead labor" of machines becomes more prominent. But, it would be easy enough to circumvent the worker altogether, and in practice, this is what happened. Labor had no ability to bargain with their condition and never would. They were entirely at the mercy of the favored classes, so far as they were consigned to the social class of labor.

http://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/lcbt/sgfyrbt/202405/t20240514_11304155.htm
<China's position on the issue of illegal immigration is consistent and clear. The Chinese government firmly opposes all forms of illegal immigration. In recent years, Chinese law enforcement departments have cracked down hard on crimes that harm the tranquility of national border, and maintained a high pressure against all kinds of smuggling organizations and offenders. Our work has produced good results. At the same time, Chinese law enforcement agencies have regular cooperation with relevant countries to jointly tackle cross-border smuggling activities, repatriate illegal immigrants and maintain the order of international flow of people.

How is it that Communist China can raise real wages for everyone, especially migrant workers? Why do wages decline in the whole west?
https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202405/05/content_WS6637246fc6d0868f4e8e6bd0.html

>>1903089
>How is it that Communist China can raise real wages for everyone, especially migrant workers? Why do wages decline in the whole west?
Starting from a low base retard. Things have a tendency to reach equilibrium. Western workers are insanely overpaid on the global average.

>>1903093
In poor countries, gas is subsidized, not taxed. Think about it dummy.

>>1903047
>American socialists don’t happily quote Marx saying “Jewish nigger” to justify racism?

People only quote that because it's funny lol

>>1903107
The White MLs that quote it find it funny largely because of the contempt they frequently hold for the marginalized communities in their own countries
>Inb4 I have to say not all white MLs

>>1903039
Now does it tell you which people are watching these videos?

>>1903052
No but it does tell us the majority are white.

>>1903051
>>1903051
>Only interaccial japs make is AMWF and BMAF
But blacked stuff out numbers riced stuff 10 to 1 to add.

>>1903057
Well at least that was my perception but maybe the stats say I'm wrong. I was 100% right that White Actor and Black Actress are non existent JAV genres.

Black Actor:
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/vl_genre.php?&mode=&g=arlq&page=93
White Actress:
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/vl_genre.php?&mode=&g=aqra&page=98

>>1903053
Where does it say that? Also what the hell is adult vid empire? Why couldn't you cite a more popular porn site like pornhub or xvidoes instead of fishing out some obscure little site to prove a point?

>>1902966
yes, this guy knows what he is talking about

>>1902945
>just remove the zoning laws
no, you cannot be this retarded, i dont want to believe it

>>1902968
on that grindset

>>1902976
Nah. Houses have existed before those laws have existed and will continue to. There’s absolutely nothing stopping homes (or any building) from being built past supply chain-based restraints and dickheads that don’t want things to be better for others.

I agree with OP. Say what you want, but he's right. I wish I could build my own house somewhere, but no, I can't. And to those who say "but there's already plenty of houses!" I reply that most of them are shitty to put it gently and in fact they should be completely demolished to start with. And somewhere there aren't even enough houses, it really depends on the place, one can't generalise like that.

There are not a few people who are irresponsible in their work, preferring the light to the heavy, shoving the heavy loads on to others and choosing the easy ones for themselves. At every turn they think of themselves before others. When they make some small contribution, they swell with pride and brag about it for fear that others will not know. They feel no warmth towards comrades and the people but are cold, indifferent and apathetic. In fact such people are not Communists, or at least cannot be counted as true Communists.

"In Memory of Norman Bethune" (December 21, 1939), Selected Works, Vol. II, pp. 337-38. *

Hard work is like a load placed before us, challenging us to shoulder it. Some loads are light, some heavy. Some people prefer the light to the heavy; they pick the light and shove the heavy on to others. That is not a good attitude. Some comrades are different; they leave ease and comfort to others and take the heavy loads themselves; they are the first to bear hardships the last to enjoy comforts. They are good comrades. We should all learn from their communist spirit.

"On the Chungking Negotiations" (October 17, 1945), Selected Works, Vol. IV, p. 58. *

Imperialism will not last long because it always does evil things. It persists in grooming and supporting reactionaries in all countries who are against the people, it has forcibly seized many colonies and semi-colonies and many military bases, and it threatens the peace with atomic war. Thus, forced by imperialism to do so, more than 90 per cent of the people of the world are rising or will rise in struggle against it. Yet, imperialism is still alive, still running amuck in Asia, Africa and Latin America. In the West imperialism is still oppressing the people at home. This situation must change. It is the task of the people of the whole world to put an end to the aggression and oppression perpetrated by imperialism, and chiefly by U.S. imperialism.

Interview with a Hsinhua News Agency correspondent (September 29, 1958).

If the U.S. monopoly capitalist groups persist in pushing their policies of aggression and war, the day is bound to come when the people of the whole world will hang them. The same fate awaits the accomplices of the United States.

Speech at the Supreme State Conference (September 8, 1958).

Over a long period, we have developed this concept for the struggle against the enemy: strategically we should despise all our enemies, but tactically we should take them all seriously. This also means that we must despise the enemy with respect to the whole, but that we must take him seriously with respect to each concrete question. If we do not despise the enemy with respect to the whole, we shall be committing the error of opportunism. Marx and Engels were only two individuals, and yet in those early days they already declared that capitalism would be overthrown throughout the world. However, in dealing with concrete problems and particular enemies we shall be committing the error of adventurism unless we take them seriously. In war, battles can only be fought one by one and the enemy forces can only be destroyed one by one. Factories can only be built one by one. The peasants can only plough the land plot by plot. The same is even true of eating a meal. Strategically, we take the eating of a meal lightly - we know we can finish it. Actually, we eat it mouthful by mouthful. It is impossible to swallow an entire banquet in one gulp. This is known as a piecemeal solution. In military parlance, it is called wiping out the enemy forces one by one.

Speech at the Moscow Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties (November 18, 1957).

>>1890625
Who was the original banner of?

>>1896377
Bill Maher. You can see it in the banner rotation from time to time

>>1903003
Lenin wrote an entire book denouncing kautsky faggot thoughever

Honestly I would be careful. Like, your friends might snitch on you, and you'd get a visit by Shin Bet or Mossad or just the police in general. Reminds me of that teacher who was like "pray for Gaza" and was arrested for weeks, released and now is regularly harassed by students

>>1902974
"Waow! Fascist pussy!!"

>>1903012
I doubt my friends will they've known my political views since i know them but my teachers will snitch in some way or another

Alright good night comrades i will go to sleep with my bashar al assad plush now thank you

>>1903013
I was referring to Bohemian pussy and in the end it depends on the head connected to that pussy if it's fascist or not. I hope I've been clear this time.

>>1903019
Good night to you.