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 No.1051719[Reply]

>Bezos net worth:
<135.3 billion USD

>Number of seconds Bezos has been alive:

<1.82 billion

damn imagine being SO SMART and working SO HARD that you have 75 dollars for every single second you have been alive. communists just don't understand the value of hard work! They just don't understand the market. Jeff Bezos's great great great great great great grandkids deserve to grow up rich because jeff bezos was the only person smart enough to come up with "what if books, but online"
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>>1053921
I already said then your problem is surplus value not the amount of money. Whether he had 1 million or 1 billion doesn't really mater. It doesn't make it any worse. It's like if someone owns 10 McDonalds franchisees or 10000. It's the same thing.

 No.1053944

>>1053921
To be more clear.

If 10 people own 10 McDonald's or one person own's those same 10 McDonald's it makes absolutely no difference. The same workers are getting exploited in the same way. Being mad that one guy owns 10 instead of 10 guys owning 10 is retarded. Even if you break up Amazon you just have the same exact number of workers being exploited at 3 new Amazon's by 3 new bosses instead of one. Who gives a shit.

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>>1053939
>>1053944

i agree with 100% of what you're saying but want to argue over nuance out of principle

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>>1053965
kek thanks for being honest.

 No.1054005

Not real capitalism



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 No.1052465[Reply]

Americans(black and white, right and left wing) are retarded when i comes to race, both in how they talk about it and how they categorize it, now because of american cultural domination of the world this moronic rhetoric that doesn't even work for america, is spreading to nations where it just sounds so fucking awful that literally no one outside upper class bubble understand what's being said
here's an example, so you know how some mostly woke women will try to use "cis straight white men" as some sort of insult in the west, well some wokies in my country tried to use "Sunni Punjabi Male" as they are the ethnic majority in my country but it doesn't work at all cause the vast majority of them are illiterate peasant farmers
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 No.1053344

>>1053210
Also not white.
Also inquiring as to who defecated on your cereal.
>>1053314
Whiteness is not determined by skin color alone. You already know this, so not sure what the purpose of your post was.

 No.1053361

>>1053344
Sure, but how are Iranians white?

 No.1053382

>>1053361
I don't see iranians on my day to day, but there are many "white passing" middle easterns, excluding ashkenazi Israelis, which are canonically white but also canonically oppressed within whiteness.

 No.1053404

>>1053382
I gave you a site where you can see white Iranians fbi cyber list. I don't think all Ashkenazis see themselves as white, i remember a NYT oped about this exact thing.

 No.1054002

>>1052646
>communist societies will not allow rascism
What will you do? Ban rascism?



 No.1053813[Reply]

"Oh, so having your assets seized by the state is bad now? How hypocritical of these so-called "communists."

Unironically, how do communists (maybe more accurately, Marxist-Leninists) respond to the argument that their defense of free speech in situations like this is hypocritical? Outside of some empty gesture of democratic centralism allowing for dissent, in ML nations free speech isn’t really a thing. And even in America, PSL, one of the largest American left-wing organizations, explicitly states modifying the 1st amendment to ban promoting capitalism (along with hate speech). So how does a communist defend the idea of being protected by the right to free speech? Is it just taking advantage of liberal bourgeoisie kindness?
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>>1053833
Except the assumption of kindness is moralistic and just incorrect. At best you can call it complacency

 No.1053844

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>in ML nations free speech isn’t really a thing.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T ANNOUNCE YOU WANT TO ASSASSINATE THE POLITBURO, WHERE IS THE FREE SPEECH?!!

 No.1053849

>>1053837
What do you mean unproductive. It’s very useful to demonstrate picrel

 No.1053865

>>1053813
>respond to the argument that their defense of free speech in situations like this is hypocritical?
We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

 No.1053996

>>1053837
Normies do care about hipocracy



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 No.1050471[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I see a lot of liberals talk about the importance of representation, be it more and better representation of women, black people, handicapped people, transexuals, etc.

What is the marxost belief regarding this viewpoint?
Is it just liberal symbolism?
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>>1053859
>Me, a south asian who looks at lenin, fred hampton and ho chi minh as idols

 No.1053901

>>1053866
Don't need too. I know it's mostly just bloviating about anti-id pol, lel radlibs and feels vs reels.

>>1053897
Now, that's what I'm talking about. Be more like this guy /leftypol

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>>1053910
Is that why marx said labor in white skin cannot be free when labor in black skin remains in chains



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 No.967760[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

VERSIÓN 3.0
Edicion Mafalda
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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 No.1053291

>>1053085
That's the flag of chad in africa

 No.1053301

>>1053291
its joke

 No.1053401

Bueno, les traigo critica politica del Siglo XXI

 No.1053449

>>1053077
un plebiscito por una nueva constitución sería una de las pocas instancias en donde votar sí cambiaría algo

 No.1053895

troskos siendo el hazmerreír de la izquierda nuevamente



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 No.1053872

https://www.reddit.com/r/librandu/
What is this subredditt

 No.1053875

>>1052920
RADLIB INDIA
RADLIB INDIA

 No.1053876

>>1053872
Probably right liberals making fun of Indian left liberals.

 No.1053880

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>>1052920
What the actual fuck is going on in CPIML?

 No.1053885

>>1052920
>>1053880
Punching left to own the fascists, how could it go wrong?



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 No.1052495[Reply]

I realized that religion is a tool for control.

Example:
Show anything wrong with the world and in no time some christian shows up ready to tell you that all everyone needs to do is it get right with jesus while posting schizo crap and shitting up the conversation.

Very simple distraction to fight the imaginary evils of some imaginary supernatural satan.
Very easy tool for distracting society from real problems and into wasting their time on jesus fagging.

However it gets better since religion is literally insanity. Literally nothing in religion makes sense.
Religion is whatever your pastor made up nothing more. Or more correctly what your pastor copy pasted from other pastors who copy pasted it from another pastor that made it all up.

This is what religion is nothing in it makes any sense whatsoever literally nothing Christians need to go in opposite to their own book to practice christieanity. And the comedy never ends. Because after you point this out they scream
<That is a wrong interpretation you must schizo interpret it like my pastor says.
And the christians fight the 100s of other christians who have another schizo made up christieanity.

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 No.1053655

Isnt EVERYTHING fundamentally a tool for control? Stop with your individualistic discourse

 No.1053825

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>>1053290
>family,
Family values. See picture.

>Bible is irrelevant, most of the time christians didn't even own one, or had sermon in a language they spoke.

Self contradiction.
<Dude like we have this magic book we will read to you from
<Says right here in the book you must do X
<Book says so

VS
<REEE stop reading my book !
<You are not allowed to read it ! REEEE
<You are interpreting it wrong !

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 No.1053826

>>1053290
>Bible is irrelevant, most of the time christians didn't even own one, or had sermon in a language they spoke.
Cool story
<Yea do whatever we tell you
<Its not like we are making this shit up and change it every generation LMFAO

 No.1053828

>>1053363
>moralism
>religion, all have very very strong factors of manipulation of people.
BASED.

 No.1053848


lol the christfags on this thread are so hilariously disingenuous. It mus take some amazing levels of cognitive dissonance in order to be smart enough to be a leftist but dumb enough to be religious.



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 No.1053050

>>1053047
Well when they actually start moving forward then that will change things. Until then you'll have to forgive me if I don't #trusttheplan

 No.1053059

>>1053050
You wouldn't know what a revolution is even if slapped to your face.

 No.1053102

FBI directors assures us that there was not in fact an end to any “China initiative”, and in fact FBI harassment of Chinese Americans has only accelerated and there is immense pressure within the FBI to more aggressively profile and investigate Chinese Americans, bragging about a 1300% increase in opened investigations (which it must be reminded do not yield actual wrongdoing) and a nee investigation ever 12 hours, which he says is too slow. The UK head says his police have increased investigations into Chinese by 7x and hopes to increase it to 14x within the next few years.

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 No.1053785

>>1053050
>Well when they actually start moving forward then that will change things.
What does "moving forward" mean?



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 No.1048053[Reply]

I won't try to debate you.

Why leftism is a good alternative to good old liberalism/conservatism?

I've genuinely had this question for some time now and really want to know why people would support leftist policy.

Give me all the information you can on why leftism can be a good ideology. Books, videos, images anything goes.
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 No.1052553

>>1048053
Left and right are political terms that date back to the 17 century in France.
The politicians who supported the French king and monarchical rule sat on the right in the national assembly hall and the people who opposed the king and wanted a bourgeois republic sat on the left.

At that point Marxism didn't exist yet, and Socialism was a vague dream of peasants who wanted to get rid of all the lords, aristocrats, nobles , theocrats, barons, and all the rest of those people who kept taking parts of their harvests.

liberal and conservative in today's politics represent 2 factions of the bourgeois class. Technically both adhere to ideological liberalism and only differ on some social questions and imperial policy.

I would say that neither the left-right nor liberal-conservative political spectrum includes socialist or Marxist politics.
We are excluded from the bourgeois political spectrum, for the most part.
Maybe we should stop using these terms altogether.

 No.1052558

>>1052508
> Out of ~350 daily /leftypol/ posters, you can probably count on one hand those who have read the three volumes from start to finish.
because the average person here isn't a communist

 No.1052559

As for your question, the first thing to do before reading any theory, or at the same time, is to feel why you could be a leftist. If you don't understand why leftism could be an alternative to "standard" politics, it is because you see them as legitimate, maybe not perfect, but acceptable. It simply the "normal", the stable and proven. Better this than dictatorship or civil-war right ? The situation is not the best, but it could be worse.
The first thing to understand is then why we don't think it is such the case : why the present order is in fact not acceptable. Why, if we don't only look at the US, but at the entire world, everything is totally unfair : there's billions of people that are starving, while a few of big richs guys have more than the majority of the population. Where we could possibily gives everyone a decent life, we we don't. Where we are always on the verge of a world war for the pettiest reasons, and against people you never see. You need to look at your gov, the democrats and republicans, beyond their speeches and promises, beyond their policies, and asking : why do these guys do for me, a normal guy ? Have I really power on my gov. and on their parties ? Do they represent my interest, not as a voter or as an american, but as what you contrectely are, a worker, a poor, or a student ? What power to they give you for your daily life, where you will control nothing over you life, always dependant of the next job finding, of working for shitty job for a boss that earn 1000 time you pay for half your work, and your only alternative is to starve ? What control do you have on your life when everything is on the verge of collapsing at each economic crisis ? Where you can't do small business whitout being eaten alive by giant corporations ? Is it really an acceptable outcome for humanity at the age of wonders such as internet and space station ? Can't we do better ? In't there the vision of a better society, where everyone would be treaded as human being, that is, as free peoples, equals in dignity to you and me, above and below me in privileges, and with who we can fraternize and cooperate without suspicion ?
At this, we answer yes, and we answer this with our theory, our concepts etc. But, first and foremost, we answer with our convictions, solidified both by personal experience and the general and honest look of the present world.
With this in mind, start to read easy texts of socialist tradition : principles of communism Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1053739

Soviet onion was nice



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 No.982208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Sonic for President of Brazil Edition
Cause Brazil gotta go fast!
Feeling our beautiful country is too slow and it needs to accelerate? Tired of being ruled by the Centrão lead by Dr. Robotnik Sarney?
Vote for Sonic the Hedgehog and Brazil will go fast!
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 No.1050410

O que que houve que após o biênio 2020-2021, o Bozo parece ter parado de falar tanta merda? Ele ficou quietinho por causa das eleições?

 No.1050700

>>1047752
Graduar de lutar contra milícia jihadista no iraque para lutar contra artilharia russa é como passar do campeonato Paraense para a Premier League. Lembrete diário para não cutucar o urso

 No.1050900

>>1050410
Ele mudou bastante, atualmente ele anda bem progressista.

 No.1052054

Bolsonaro vai ganhar de lavada em:

RS
SC (principalmente esse estado)
PR
SP
MS

Bolsonaro ou Lula podem ganhar em:
GO
RJ
MT
ES

Lula ganha de lavada em todo norte e nordeste

 No.1053678

>>1052054
Esqueci de agregar MG, fica entre os swing states



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