/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Because States Rights aren't real. In the US they only exist when the goal is to defend or further reactionary politics and hinder progressive ones. Whenever thr most reactionary elements of American electoral politics they don't give a crap about states rights and federally enforce whatever.

>>2772445
> In the US they only exist when the goal is to defend or further reactionary politics and hinder progressive ones.
Isn't this just rainbow imperialism?

> In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm

>>2772488
>Isn't this just rainbow imperialism?
Were the northern states practicing imperialism on the confederacy during the US Civil War?

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They would rather prefer if you were Volunteering or Running for Office/Federal Council instead.


>sus
that's mi waifu
rude owo

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also
Do it. Run for office
See how that goes :^)

>go into random retail store
>10/10 Indian bombshell behind the counter
Either the IRCC are a bunch of gooners or India is entirely composed of smoking hot babes

>>2772073
I'm using ML mostly as a stand-in for someone who thinks China and the USSR are legitimate AES and such, the ones less ideologically committed to "anti-revisionism"

>>2771534
exactly

How are you gonna have a dictatorship of a class that theoretically is supposed to abolish itself? You have schizophrenia

>>2770983
same reason it's hard for people who say this to explain how it constitutes "a new class" without abandoning marxism. Djilas who popularized this view completely dropped communism btw. arguing that having a higher income and some material benefits like dachas for vacationing is a class is the kind of thing Trotsky criticized, but it keeps happening
From Isaac Deutscher the biggest trot historian
>What this so-called new class lacks is property. They own neither means of production nor land. Their material privileges are confined to the sphere of consumption. Unlike the managerial elements in our society, they are not able to turn any part of their income into capital: they cannot save, invest, and accumulate wealth in the durable and expansive form of industrial stock or of large financial assets. They cannot bequeath wealth to their descendants; they cannot, that is, perpetuate themselves as a class
this is why I could never take the 'new class' and the maoist/hoxhaist debate about capitalist restoration in the USSR seriously. the only clear restoration happens after perestroika and even then only by 1990 with Gorbachev's 500 days program do they seriously start debating the transition to a market economy and mass privatization. by 1991 gosplan was abolished but only few privatizations happened before 1992. so in short, they were never a new class in the soviet union and only after it was abolished some of the party higher ups and pro-capitalist camp used their advantage to secure wealth and positions in the new capitalist russia. and only some, it's a myth that they all became capitalists. studies show that most of these came from managerial posts in industry and banking or had backgrounds in science and engineering. not to mention the huge role organized crime played.

and trotsky defined the problem as a workers state hindered by a layer of bureaucracy that had necessary roles like sustaining a planned economy but also dangerous, oppressive political power. yet he also explained that the rise of this bureaucracy was unavoidable due to the Russian civil war, the failure of other revolutions, the shitty conditions of Russia and so on.
>Trotsky once predicted that the Soviet bureaucracy would fight for the right to bequeath their possessions to their children and that Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

some of it is just cope, some of it is the prudent instinct that just denouncing the problem as ossified bureaucracy leads to saying "well next time we simply wont do that :)" and then failing to learn from successes and failures

that said they were not really a distinct class in the sense of materialism. they worked for the state like anyone else and whatever privileges and allowances they accrued were only really different in scale not in kind. they were essentially a caste of factory managers on the scale of an enormous society. whatever is unequal and resented about the managers cushy office and distance from the actual labor he disciplines others to perform, he doesnt own the factory.

>>2766856
Brezhnev was better, Brezhnev was probably the greatest communist of all time.

>>2767110
That picture is falsely titled btw. It's the vote to elect Khruschev as premier in 1958, not to remove him in 1964. Neither Voroshilov nor Bulganin were part of the Central Committee in 1964

>>2771874
Brezhnev was a lion but his biggest L was Afghanistan

>>2771841
>And there is no balance when it comes to the dark side of force
I know this is a star lore thing, but this really depends on the writer, and to some extent George Luca's current thought process. Because Lucas has said very different conceptions of what this dark side is. Either it's part of the force's yin and yang. Or it's a cancer to the force.

Read grover furr to learn the truth

>>2771992
It’s still bad when the US replaces those governments instead of the local workers

>>2772013
Moralism lmao

>>2772024
It’s materialism, the US makes the socdem treatlers like Evo Morales look like good guys and patriots

>>2772025
No it isn't, the democratically elected will flirt with the US, allow Amazon, Blackrock, and Palantie to operate inside their borders and to profit from the workers.

>>2772262
It’s the only mov available until proven otherwise

Certainly, keep making antisemitic IG reels using the juicebox emoji and Israel will fall.

>>2763486
>Were we supposed to be engaging in violent riots and molotoving the banks or whatever?
Isn't this what every American leftist dreams of? "We'll win socialism once we firebomb the fucking banks."

>>2769700
no that was in the 90s and 2000s. now its about becoming the next hakim piker with a podcast

>>2763486
The average American doesn't care about Palestine. They don't. They were bombarded with endless images of children in Gaza being killed for two years and the vast majority of them didn't protest. Americans care more about the economy and whether or not the infrastructure in their small towns will be repaired.

>>2769058
“The Palestinians” are useful to the American left because their suffering can be utilized to push the Democrats slightly further left.

>>2769587
>Sapphic Wicca
What kind of new age bs is that?
>woman could never reach enlightenment
And there's nothing wrong with that. Women are attached to prakriti. Enlightenment is something they don't want. Neither you.

>>2769587
cis-, trans-
I know who you are

>>2768997
>poland is to blame, it was completely retarded to sweep discontent with the pzpr government under the rug by scapegoating jews and gays. this country has been ran by complete morons for its entire existence
no more stalin = no need for stalinist. they were lucky they were jews and as such were able to play victim because had they been any other eastern race instead of claiming assylum in first world they would have been deported right back to soviet union which they came from

interesting

Endokomuna and Chamokomuna chads rise up

>>2771554
>understand that issue and take it seriously
Eugenicist misogyny is literally the ideology of Jeffrey Epstein
>what are their answer to this ?
have you tried not being a degenerate Elliot Rogers school shooter fascist?

>>2771798
TRVKE

every problem you have is due to money stop looking at the women, you can't have a fucking apartment or a job right now, of course you can't get laid.

CAPITALISTS ARE TAKING THE PUSSY AWAY ITS ALL THEIR FAULT, KILL THEM, GET YOUR PUSSY BACK

>>2771645

It's not a culture. It is a social cast similar to homeless people. There's nothing to celebrate about this.

Memes on this are just…well memes.

>>2772877
>you must provide for a woman
why exactly should this be the case?

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>>2771928
The point is that no ceasefire is being negotiated and this is just another round of lying to manipulate the market.

>>2771666
imaging really believing that trump was le hecking anti-imperialist person.
you can't expect bourgeoisie capitalists like him, that many times twisted the state (state and federal) law to his favor, to be anti-imperialist.
in fact, they will all do their version of imperialism.

>>2771925
Unless Iran agrees I don't see how this is different from all the ceasefire deals before

>>2771863
>that deal was comtemplated into the overall strategy against Iran
NTA but that doesn't make any sense - why would they make a peace deal (that was working perfectly) if they planned to invade? Are you saying Obama planned for a future president to rip up the deal and then attack? That's absurd.
American hegemony isn't a monolith, there are competing internal factions who have different strategies and goals.
>this war is a bipartisan thing that has been on the works for a long time
Just because some warhawks wanted it to happen didn't make it a guaranteed thing. Why did it take until Trump to make it happen? Why didn't Reagan or Bush Sr or Clinton or Bush Jr or Obama or Biden do it? And if it was being planned for so long then why has it been a complete disaster?
This war wasn't some grand decades-long machination. There was basically no thought put into it at all. Trump was pushed into it by Israel. Israel has been growing its influence over the past 50 years and now it effectively controls the US government.

>>2616384
This entire post is pretty much, "Why I Left the Right," summarized. Everything about all of that is just further proof the whole ideology today isn't real. It's a spook.

>>2760901
The deep state are the ones who elect the judges however.

>>2761749
the right has always been a sham
from around 1649-1789, it was primarily concerned with the interests of the aristocracy and arbitrarily conserving power. it had no intellectual theory of its own, while the left completely dominated all relevant areas of culture and politics. after 1789, the right was complacent with regulating the aristocracy politically, but also regulating trade to benefit them economically, such as with the corn laws of england, 1815-46 (enacted under the tories) which artificially rose prices so that british landlords could derive greater profits from their sale. Marx also speaks on how the Acts of Union (1801) with Ireland was a conspiracy to create a landed aristocracy in ireland and mass immigration into England (causing immense competition amongst labourers, as Engels notes in 1848 and Marx speaks on in 1869). This Act was also issued by the Tories. The right then in this era, were not at all loyal to the common man, and never have been. After 1900, you get the Labour Party, the first socialist party in Britain, and so the Tories (now conservatives) make these their main enemy. In 1926, there was a general strike in protest of mining companies attempting to lower wages; the resolve of the Conservative government was simply to make general strikes illegal. This led to the election of Ramsay Macdonald, the first labour PM, from 1929-35. After WW2 we get the celebrated welfare state due to the work of Clement Attlee (who also opposed the EEC, or EU, while conservatives promoted inclusion and eventually put the UK in the EU). During the 60s and 70s we get the "new right" in continental europe and the anglosphere. In the anglosphere it is about free market economics, with reactionary cultural values (now, as it will be clear, liberal values come from liberal economics, so it is already a paradox). At the same time, "free market" just means selling public assets off to the highest bidder and exporting national industry to foreigners, creating mass unemployment and dependence on the state (the descent of places in the US like Detroit are entirely synonymous with the exportation of industry, creating welfare slaves who fall into crime - this evidently stains not only racial underclasses but also deindustrialised regions in general). This period (often termed "neoliberalism") passes from around 1979-1989 with Reagan and ThatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2616361
I support Elon Musk getting shot in an alleyway like that bank cuck Luigi shot
Even though frankly that's too good for him. He needs Epstein levels of shit done to his stupid ass, a broken bone for every banned Twitter account when he to this day says he's all about free speech. I'm not even mad about the twitter accounts themselves, but the lack of efficiency where when he bought twitter, he could have for a fraction of it sued tech companies and completely rewritten the law code and held websites more liable in practice. Like this shit hole has mods, and with all the CP posts on Siberia, guess whose liable? But isn't it funny how rebellious youths and feds can post child porn on some backwoods image board with like 200 people, but can't on Twitter or reddit.

Pic semi related as wrong killer but they're all based

>>2771694
I think you'd want the institutes of Justinian or something similar.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5983/5983-h/5983-h.htm