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I think that Mao the best communist leader of all time because of for the love of his country I bring the rule area in modern area together cultural revolution was based as fuck
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>>2576805
Great leap forward proved that ultras are mentally retarded and that China needs pragmatic economics.

>>2576805
yeah dude china was so much better when red guards were shooting other red guards because the dogmatic confusion was so surreal entire student communities killed other student communities for being too reactionary

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>>2576982
Mao didn't say to struggle violently though, they just did that

>>2577000
>call for a violent revolution
<no he didnt mean it like this
Mistakes were made millions are dead.

>>2577000
So the cultural revolution was a failure? If Mao created a movement that he could not control or discipline that spiralled out of control and began to do more bad than good to China then it was a failure.



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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2422283
the president/congress controls US foreign policy not the price of commodities on the world market 2/10 gothca

>>2334358
I'm too autistic to succumb to peer pressure.

If the masses don't want to reckon with their own stupidity, they will reckon with their own extinction.

Or do you think being a brainlet carries no consequence?

>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.

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Climate Change is the biggest threat to humanity and nobody is doing anything about it, 10 years ago we would hear about it in the news and people would protest but people don’t even do that anymore. The only solution to stop the world from being destroyed in 10 years is to nationalize the extraction industry so we only burn as much fossil fuels as we need until we can fully convert to renewable energy but nobody will do that because that’s communism. Conservatives like to deny that climate change exists and censor journalists and scientists who speak the truth while liberals like to say “It’s Trump’s fault!” Even though they are just as responsible because Obama and Biden did nothing to stop this. The only hope I ever feel when reading the news about climate change is hearing about China’s clean energy infrastructure, it’s so good that I have to end this on it so I don’t have a mental breakdown.
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>>2576583
>and we'll also build a huge train that goes around the world too what could go wrong anons

it's not over until it's over

the goalposts will just be moved from preventing large-scale mass extinction/ecocide (already happening/happened) to preventing the earth from hitting the sort of runaway warming w/ water vapor as a greenhouse gas that made venus the way it is.

>>2567053
if you believe this you should hire a legal guadian because you're too stupid to be trusted around stovetops and blenders

>>2567051
I'm already stockpiling precious metals!

>>2576807
Indonesia is like the fifth largest economy in the world



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #2
>Tired of the re-runs edition
>>2440521 Previous thread
https://archive.ph/4Dq3L Thread 1 Archive

The Real Reason the USA Is Attacking Latin America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWH-LPyTow
0:00 Trump's war on Latin America
1:04 (CLIP) Trump meddles in Argentina's election
1:23 US imperial strategy in Latin America
2:02 (CLIP) Trump wants Venezuela's oil
2:14 Natural resources
2:41 Ties with China and Russia
3:02 Oligarchic counter-revolution
4:11 US war on Venezuela
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>>2575857
>I bet BRICS are negotiating the price of selling Venezuela right now lel
Didn't read. Need to tell you that you are retartid.

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The Revolution Will Not Be Terrorized
The Caribbean Sea holds the memories of countless African and Indigenous lives brutally killed by imperial power. From the terrible Transatlantic Slave Trade to today’s US bombings of civilian vessels, executing dozens of Caribbean people. Though separated by centuries, the underlying motives remain the same: profit-driven colonial domination.

This year, Latin America and the Caribbean honor the memory of the victims of the “Zong Massacre” on its 244th anniversary and its lasting impact on the fight against colonialism.

In 1781, the British slave ship Zong left Accra in Ghana with 442 Africans on board, which was more than twice its capacity. The captives were destined for Jamaica, where they would be sold for an average price of £36 each to work on sugar plantations. However, the British enslavers ran low on supplies after navigating off course miles from the island and decided to mass murder captives to collect insurance money of £30 per person.

On November 29, 54 women and children were thrown into the Caribbean Sea. A further 78 men were tossed overboard in the following days, while 10 enslaved people jumped into the water in an act of revolutionary resistance. Another 62 Africans had already died on board from malnutrition and disease. The story is only known because of court documents, which were filed after the insurance company sued the ship’s crew to avoid paying.

The “Zong Massacre” reminds us of the horrors of colonialism and serves as a warning against today’s Western imperialist efforts to repeat history through different methods, exploiting the labour and resources of indigenous and black nations.

<The Caribbean massacre

Centuries ago, the bodies of thousands of Africans were either left to drown or to be eaten by sharks. The same is happening now, with more than 80 people having been killed since September, mostly in Caribbean waters just a few miles from the Venezuelan coast, but also in the Eastern Pacific, by US military forces. Their mangled bodies have been left to sink to the bottom of the sea or wash up on the shores of nearby countries such as Trinidad and Tobago, as happened soon after the US attacked the first vessel, killing 11.

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>>2575857
You seriously believe feds? They got Viktor Bout and he was innocent.

Fuck feds. Mutts deserve drug deaths. Im burgerreich was truly based they would kill drug users Duterte style.

>>2576763
cheer up a bit

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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2573637
They didn't accept american bases

>>2573637
We don't, it's a meme. Reactoids hate the french

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>>2575950
Un vil tankie qui veut la bite de Poutine dans sa bouche.
Le communisme n'est possible qu'en défendant l'Ukraine et Taïwan de toutes nos forces contre les offensives réactionnaires impérialistes et bourgeoises.
Rejoignez le NPA.

>>2575950
putain le PTB est tellement basé

>>2576108
je crois pas que le npa est mauvais au point de demander la défense de taiwan si ? ils ont quand même pas voté pour les envoi d'armes à l'ukraine ?
en même temps qu'attendre de guignols qui se définissent en "anti" tellement ils ont accepté les prémisses de l'anti communisme



 

How do you cope with spectacle? I know it sounds silly, but it's a genuine question.

I find myself getting drawn into the antics of e-celebs and flavor-of-the-week social media drama without even fully realizing it, and by the time I realize what happened, I've already wasted a disproportionate amount of mental bandwidth on it. I know none of it matters in the grand scheme of things, I know that none of these people hold any significant amount of real-world cultural relevance. But I have so much trouble convincing my reptilian brain of that fact.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would very much like to hear them.
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>>2576313
php boards, news groups, imageboards and by now archaic shit like that is social media in the original sense. people interacting, more or less organically, with one another based on a shared interest.

what is called social media nowadays is in fact anti social, individualist and egocentrical. participation is not born from a personal interest in a specific topic but from peer pressure and asinine incentivisation schemes in form of updoots/likes etc. pp. to maximize engagement and screen time.

>>2576402
old person is correct. It's social media, but in a different ballpark to commercial for-profit addiction machines. All we've got is the bump algorithm and (You)s.

>>2576230
Do you have much connection to IRL networks? Friends, sport you play, socialist orgs, that kind of stuff. Definitely helps to have something more important to fill those gaps than spectacle.

Want dramashit? Meet my local trot orgs, especially the ones on college campuses. Holy fuck they are a mess, including the One True Revolutionary Party getting student members to vote second preferences to the right-wing party just to their rival fellow trots couldn't get a seat, not to mention trying to stall pro-Palestine motions which passed unanimously when their stalling didn't work. Or that time they tried to change a protest route at the last minute, but forgot to tell the dozen new students they recruited on that open day, so their leadership got off the train a station early and left their targets to get poached by their rivals.
Hell, even the M-L orgs have their own weird drama, with the CP# splitting into the CP#-ML and the SP#, then CP# dying, and soon after the SP# changing their name to CP#, and the #CP being formed, before a branch split from them. vidrel

>>2576343
>If you bury yourself in books, or learning to code, or practicing an instrument then you're taking charge of your own headspace before the slop merchants can fill it for you.
This. Also getting into political theory (even breadslop), propaganda creation and coding got me out of habitual gaming. At least my hobbies are now somewhat productive while being fun and interesting.

>>2576230
I kinda want the opposite, I want to subsume myself to it.

If I can give one piece of advice, it's that while throwing yourself into learning to code, play an instrument, write a story, draw, or any other creative or skill-developing hobby (fish for all it matters!), is exceptionally worthwhile, you should categorically not get into political theory or history or similar dry academic topics. That's what I did, and I regard it as the only possible waste of time worse than using social media. At least on social media I'd have vague acquaintances and the ability to hold a facsimile of a conversation. Instead, all I have is petty resentments and an encyclopedic knowledge of dead movements, movements that were dead before they started, movements that are undead, dead economic theories, and an all-pervasive sense that everyone engaged in 'politics' outside real power is just LARPing and has nothing approaching a coherent plan for building or taking power.

It is a superficially smarter but actually much dumber way to waste your life. You are still just looking at words on a page - if you want to do that, literature is the way to go, not theory. At least it'll come in handy if you decide you want to write down the road.
This is not the good communist answer, the good communist cliche is to write paeans to theory that you don't actually read. Go on social media and do that if you must, but don't fall for the meme. You will not, in fact, read your way into actually existing socialism. You cannot get that time back, don't waste it like I did.

>>2576313
Yes but this is one of the few places for me personally that I dont want to get permabanned like I am on 4chan and reddit. Getting banned prevents me from consuming brainrot content as I get bored quickly and leave the site if I cant post.



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I'm petite bourgeois that has seen my business increase in profits as conditions have gotten worse. (tech 2020-now). Are there any Marxist writing on this phenomenon?
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>>2573837
you're just agreeing with me now

>>2573771
What are you basing this on? That your personal business is making money?

>>2573771
>>2573716
<tech itself is slowing becoming a blue collar field.
>The point is that the tech petite bourgeois has grown in crisis not been absorbed by the bourgeois
no contradiction - plenty of "blue collar" petit bourgois like electrician plumber masters who own businesses.

OP is a probably an high end consultant or an small to mid size MSP/it shop. No surprise its booming now.

Anyway tech is a growth field but eventually the cloud will eat everything anyway and bezos/gates/etc. will own 90% of the worlds IT infra

>>2573771
>The point is that the tech petite bourgeois has grown
Where is the proofs? Can you share any actual data on that claim? How is petite bourgeoise growth ratio compared to monopoly capital growth?

wtf is this shit thread.
>helo guis explain my anecdote with marxism



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How can anyone think that Donald Trump is a Christian when all he is a Zionist bootlicker not just that he’s enforce the National Guard deported so many migrants friends with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bombed boats in Venezuela he’s basically a war criminal but apparently he worked at McDonald’s. I’m loving it. That. Fat fuck

Christianity for most people is based aesthetics and not actually following the doctrine, cause if that was true they would all become vagabonds. Also no right winger believes Trump is a Christian they just like his policies.



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How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?

For the past 10 years, the entire crux of the Democratic Party has been "STOP TRUMP". The average American Democrat or liberal now bases their political views solely on how much they hate Trump, MAGAts, "manosphere" podcasters, so-called "alt-right pipelines", and everything in between. They have no real principles and it shows.

The right-wing, on the other hand, believes it is creating a new world; it's a much worse world, but that's how they want it. This has caused liberals to prop up the old, dying system as a way of preventing it from collapsing into something worse. Now, we're seeing liberals who claim to be "left-wing" embrace everything from free trade agreements (on the basis Trump's tariffs need to be stopped) to hyper-consumerism (on the basis that spending money on fashion and makeup and mindless consumer goods helps maintain your "individuality" against Trump-era conformity) to literal junk food (in order to own RFK and MAHA). It doesn't take much to realize all of these were once things American liberals strongly opposed 20-25 years ago; I'm old enough to remember when "clean girl" no-makeup aesthetics, eating organic, and herbal medicines were leftist things.

American liberals are now pushing a culture of hyper-rationality and order to counter the mass chaos that has erupted in America under Trump. They hate ICE agents terrorizing communities but they hate the sporadic community defence and protests that pop up to beat back ICE even more. They hate the Luigi Mangiones and the Tyler Robinsons and the prospects of an American Years of Lead. They want everything to be "rational" and based on slow progression and linear shit. But this way is outdated. Trying to find the "middle path" doesn't work when capitalism is in a state of collapse. For the liberal, everything that doesn't fit their paradigm is "mysticism" which always equates to "fascism" and needs to be stamped out before it manifests into authoritarianism. But how can this hyper-rationalism win?

The same is true of foreign policy. Liberals insist on American soft power, which arguably won't work in a world post-Gaza where American support for the most documented genocide in recent history was on full display. Trump, on the other hand, is an old school imperialist who simply seizes whatever he demands without caring.

So where does that leave the DemocraPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I don’t think that there will be a strong liberal movement after Trump. The liberal base is practically all just demsocs except for boomers and unless you consider them to also be liberals then it’s pretty much over. Everyone is either a demsoc or a Nazi which is pretty bad because I don’t think that demsocs are the polor opposite of Nazis, I would consider the polor opposite of a demsoc to be an Eisenhower-style conservative and I would consider the polor opposite of Nazis to be Maoists, then again what would a Guevarist like me know? After all we all like to think we are in the center.

>>2526945
If the Dems could recover from the Vietnam debacle (Vietnam was a Dem project for most of America’s involvement) they can recover from the Gaza genocide
What they cannot recover from is their utter inability to improve anyone’s life in any way

>>2526850
>american liberalism after liberalism
Same old. Uniparty will continue to murder both americans and foreign victims of imperialism in the name of capital.

>How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?
Those who aren't ready for socialism, particularly those not directly hit hard by the current repression, might just celebrate the 'victory' of Democrats (assuming they aren't overtly blocked from electoral power) and interpret it as the system working, validating their trust in US institutions, electoralism and the legal system. Honestly, a show-trial of Trump could kill a revolution.

But if socialists GTFO /leftypol/ and actually seize upon these grievances, they can inoculate people from liberalist claims of America working, if/when the Republicans face any roadblocks in the future.

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I used to think that the democrats were a good thing but now I think they crap



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Happy Türkiye Day Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2576058
>why won't you share your emotions
<okay i feel like crap
>fuck you for making me deal with your emotions unpaid
lmao

>>2576244
fracking started at 1:1 EROEI IIRC. And shale deposits are kinda huge, so it's not likely that they'll deplete too much for a while. But it's only really gonna make sense for the US.

>>2576247
Of course the people in the "C"PUSA tried to join the most reactionary organization in the history of the world, the KKKatholiKKK Church. When that failed, they joined the second most reactionary organization, the "C"PUSA. If you think that you learn right and wrong from the Bible you are even more reactionary than I thought you were, and frankly I already think the only substantive difference between you and Goering is honesty.

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death to the Trumpist Burger Reich™ appeasement agenda. Genealogy tried to warn us in Eurovision with their song which was originally called "Don't Deny". Hayastan and Sakartvelo is falling thanks to P*tin's Psy-Op and his puppets like Ivanishvili and Trump. I recognise that Nagorno-Karabakh as Armenian. "Muh Christianity!", MAGAists say when in reality Hayastan was the first Christian country. Face the facts, Trumpists



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