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Has anyone else been dismayed by how like 99% of the left these days is fanatically pro-Copyright/IP, reporting people for IP "piracy" and whining about Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?
>"Nooo my giant media companies and slop artists deserve to have a capitalist monopoly on thoughts and ideas for literally 150 years NOOOOOOOO"
Anyway, any Marxist who is against mass smart automation through AI should hand in their Marxist membership card.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch08.htm
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>>2588991
>"I have moral rights over my individual creative work"
Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Also this is ridiculous, artists should read Hegel and Marx then.

>>2589275
>Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Ultimately because you exist in a social context and have to coexist with other human beings by affording them a modicum of respect and common decency. If you want to make edits of people's OCs being put up against the wall by the Cheka nobody can realistically stop you - but they can ostracize you from their social group. If you've got a brain and still can't control your compulsion to do things that piss other people off, you'll appreciate that this is the sort of thing you should do anonymously rather than demanding everyone else accept your social faux pas as moral because there's nothing in Das Kapital about not acting like a moron on the internet.

I do not believe you have seriously read either. You are posturing here for precisely the same socially motivated reasons: "look at me, I am virtuous, I read the approved communist thinkers." "The approved communist thinkers agree that my social status should be elevated and that of artists lowered.", well, no sell. Hegel and Marx would think you are an antisocial little dork.

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>>2588268
>>2588031
>99% of the left
idk where you got this statistic from but yes it's annoying

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>>2588477
>ai is bad because it's controlled exclusively by reactionaries so yeah everything should be done to hinder its development

It is uncommon in human history for a technology to be destroyed or forgotten; it is far more common for a technology to remain once invented. On the rare occasions a technology disappears, it is usually due to isolation, collapse, or loss of transmission, rather than deliberate attempts by people to destroy technology and reverse history.

What does Marx say about the Luddites?

<The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power-loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used.

>Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?

That happened with Napster. What's happening now is more like the Enclosure of the Commons where big IP holders are just claiming the property of smaller IP holders and telling them to just deal with it.


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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2584802
its just gonna get worse and continue to fracture the closest America has to a working class.
Imagine in 20 years dudes in their 40s refusing to do party work because of whatever obscure identity the assume

>>2574529
>>2574752
If you're looking to solve problems like those that autistic and queer people face, you have to build up orgs with people you actually like and are willing to work alongside long-term. That's how you get political leverage. So far, the autistic/neurodiversity and queer movements have largely been failures given how easily the Trump Administration could undo all the progress both groups have made within a matter of a year, because both of these movements don't have strong enough structures that they can effectively bite back.

>>2588290
You would assume an autism diagnosis (even if it's self-diagnosed) would radicalize someone and make them more willing to be proactive. But from my experience it's been the exact opposite: as soon as a comrade finds out they're autistic they use autism as an excuse to not organize or attend meetings/study groups and decide to stay on the couch or in bed all day. Now you're seeing a whole trend of autistic leftists (all of them zoomers, shocking) who insist attending protests and marches is "dangerous" for autistic people and they should have permission to stay out of protests without scrutiny. Really makes me wonder what these kiddos will do during a general strike or some other kind of mass upheaval.

>>2589291
Again though that's not about building socialism, that's about begging for concessions (treats) from piggy

If we really want to liberate autistic people we need a new system and they will have to fight for it and that requires picking up a book.

>>2589295
It American individualismnat it's peak


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LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER AND TELL ME THAT HE ISNT WHITE!!! Race obviously is a social construct but despite the fact that Persians have white skin in America they are “Brown” because they are Muslim, the same goes for Kurds, Turks, Azerbaijanis, and Pashtuns. It’s not just Muslims either but it also goes for Spanish speakers, I remember there was an episode of the Simpsons where they were making fun of Fidel Castro and they didn’t color his skin yellow.
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Reminder that Marco Polo described East Asians as having the same skin color as he has. Reminder that there was a Japanese immigrant in early 20th century America that almost succesfully won a whiteness debate before an US court to be considered eligible for US citizenship. Reminder that 19th century European scholars were major hinduboos (compareable to modern weeaboos) and thats why the term "Aryan" was adopted for Indo-European languages. Reminder that the Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons since the 8th century.

>>2588931
>Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons
well, more because they lost them and got colonized

>>2583533
>Persians have white
You have to go back

>>2588709
the big-cock-having moors obviously
read a history book

>>2588921
Yep
Greeks considered the greek/balkan area to be Europe, they considered 'asian turkey', that is Anatolia, to be 'Asia', and North Africa to be 'Lybia'. They knew of India and China but considered them distinct from 'Asia'.
As for the Germanoid lands, the Greeks simply did not give a fuck about them. The musty anglo racists never faced this reality, they shoehorned themselves as being part of 'Europe', when the Greeks did not even think about them. Inconsequential barbarians.


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Artists such as Peter Hacks from East Germany interpreted "abolishing the state" from a Hegelian perspective, in that the state will become so big and all emcompassing that everyone born will be a member of the party, and that is the peak of human archievement
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>>2588614
>a perfect state has universal membership
Okay but that is your conjecture, not Peter Hacks. Universal party membership contradicts Hegel’s state theory because the state’s universality is mediated and rational, not totalizing.


>>2588624

you are correct.

But I also heard that in the former Eastern Bloc it was felt that improving the state into perfection was the path towards communism. In my view that seems totalitarian.

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>>2588540
Yes but unironically. Nazism needs to be eradicated on a genetic level.

>>2588642

It is indeed totalitarian conceptually.

For a Proletarian Dictatorship to truly triumph, it must come to encompass all of society; Nothing must be outside it or against it.

And it is by this process, as OP hinted at, that the state itself, defined in the Marxist sense as the instrument of class power itself can wither away.

The yet harder pill to swallow is that any totalitarian state almost also itself come to resemble something close to Proletarian Dictatorship. That is to say class collaborationism will never actually achieve what the corporatists say they want it to achieve (comprehensive social harmony analogous to a healthy body); Only something resembling the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can ever hope to lead to anything close to such an outcome.

anarchism was an antisemitic mistake


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COUP IN BENIN
A Faction of the military apparently has ousted President Patrice Talón, seizing the media stations and spraying the bullets of the president's house. Apparently he is another french neocolonial subject
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This morning:
>The coup is over, don't worry fellow allies
This evening:
>FRANCE AND NIGERIA SAVE ME
>Nigeria preparing to invade if the coup succeed

>>2587136
lets see what the communist party of benin say
https://www.la-flamme.org/index.php/bibliotheque-du-pcb/1481-editorial-de-la-flamme-n-619-le-peuple-beninois-relevera-le-defi-de-la-constitution-de-type-monarchique
https://www.la-flamme.org/index.php/bibliotheque-du-pcb/1482-editorial-de-la-flamme-n-620-du-28-novembre-2025-se-lever-contre-le-despotisme-pour-sauver-la-patrie-et-pour-un-avenir-radieux-pour-le-benin

>>2587425
juste admets que tu as eu tort. il n'y a pas des mentions à propos de devenir le président à vie dans ces liens.
and inb4 people here sperg out at me for daring to speak the DEVIL's language. i'm not french, i'm mexican.

>>2587836
>no mention of lifetime presidency
because it doesnt use the regular presidency position (where they just added 2 years to give them more time to entrench their power before the next elections), but the newly created senate president position, the senate being unelected, for life, and concentrating ridiculous power

I will post some translated excerpts :
>On the early morning of Saturday, November 15, 2025, with the hasty adoption of a new Constitution under emergency procedures, creating a despotic monarchy, a black veil fell over our beloved homeland.

>We extend our hand to all of you, inviting you to gird your loins, to show heroism and a spirit of sacrifice. We call on you to rise up against despotism to save the homeland, democracy, and a bright future for Benin. Young women and men of Benin, Young people from all corners of our country, Stand up, for the Day of Glory is coming! Forward for the homeland and democracy!

>On the night of December 14 to 15, "our people saw a new constitution imposed on them through violence, maneuvering, pressure, and manipulation of all kinds. " Thus, we are witnessing the advent of a monarchical constitution with "a Senate concentrating in its hands all powers, including those of the people (constituent), legislative, executive, and judicial powers; a Senate made up of unelected people whose members, appointed for life, rule over all the constitutional institutions of the country. There is no other term for this than a despotic monarchy. And when we know that the President of this new institution will be none other than the current President, Patrice Talon, we can clearly see the logic behind it."

>Faced with what appears to be inevitable, I urge all my fellow citizens not to sink into despair… I urge all forces, whether political, social, moral, or religious, committed to democracy, justice, humanity, and the homeland, to unite in a sacred union and use all legal and legitimate means to save the homeland and democracy. Today, the word is sacred union to meet the challenge of tyranny. No to the establishment of a despotic monarchy in Benin! No to the monarchical Constitution!

>UAPDB, thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Sahel Confederation issues harsh warning after Nigerian aircraft violates Burkinabè airspace amid Benin coup fallout

>Mali’s military government has released a communiqué announcing that a Nigerian EC-130 helicopter was forced to land in Bobo-Dioulasso, Burkina Faso after entering Burkinabè airspace without authorization on December 8.

>The aircraft carried 11 Nigerian military personnel (2 crew, 9 passengers). An investigation by Burkinabè authorities concluded the craft had no overflight clearance.

>The Sahel Confederation, made up of Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, condemned the incursion as a “violation of sovereignty” and announced that all confederal air-defense systems have been placed on maximum alert, with authorization to neutralize any aircraft entering AES (Alliance of Sahel States) airspace without approval.

>The incident occurs as regional forces mobilize around the failed coup attempt in Benin, where Nigeria and France are reported to be conducting military operations.

France behind the orders to attack Benin with airstrikes.


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I'm probably going to get jumped but uh regardless, I'm feeling very frustrated because a lot of the more far left people i listen to keep saying to stop supporting stuff like DSA and junk and move to something more radical. but then they don't offer anything more radical, so we're just stuck in this feedback loop and i feel frustrated because i genuinely want to help. They keep saying that my arguments for not working on non-viable stuff is flawed but then they don't offer any alternatives and it's driving me up the wall. My main hope is that if a Dem Teaparty goes off, we can work on building actual space for third parties post trump. But I'm struggling on ways to do that, if any of you have any basic starter groups for a noobie demsoc like me please let me know. I wouldn't be here if i wasn't desperate
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>>2588924
this is also an absolutely correct stance, seconded

>>2589223
>>2589216
>>2589218
>>2589253
A herd of succdems passes through a communist image board, and it is disgusting.
>>2589217
Ignore the above, and never join a succdem party. If you are really dead set on finding a group, go on the down low, and find something less obvious and more material in its purposes. A food pantry perhaps. You might even meet people you would never have the chance to meet otherwise.

>>2589387
Just be wary of any “oldheads”

>>2589217
That one anon is schizo
But yeah join some local org the DSA is fine. There's plenty of MLs in it.

>>2589392
You aren’t passing out “free candy” on my watch. Get.


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Taiwan’s ban on mainland China app RedNote makes it a top download amid fierce pushback
The island’s interior ministry announced on Thursday it had ordered local telecoms and internet providers to block access to the app, also known as Xiaohongshu, for one year over “rising online fraud cases”. Authorities also cited a “lack of cooperation from its operator in Shanghai”. But the move has unleashed a wave of public criticism, with many accusing Taiwan’s ruling independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) of overreach and damaging the island’s reputation for open internet access.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3335652/taiwans-ban-mainland-china-app-rednote-makes-it-top-download-amid-fierce-pushback
https://archive.ph/0QevL

Powerful 7.5-magnitude earthquake strikes Japan's northeast
Tsunami warnings were issued for the prefectures of Hokkaido, Aomori and Iwate, and tsunamis from 20 to 70 cm (7 to 27 inches) high were observed at several ports, JMA said. In the early hours of Tuesday the JMA downgraded the warnings to advisories, meaning it now sees lower estimated wave heights and less risk of inundation.
https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/japan-warns-3-metre-high-tsunami-after-magnitude-72-earthquake-2025-12-08/

Thailand launches air attacks along Cambodian border
The Thai Ministry of Defence said that more than 35,000 people have left areas near the border for shelters and more are believed to have fled to stay with relatives elsewhere, while Cambodia’s Information Minister Neth Pheaktra said that residents of several villages near the border have been evacuated.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/thailand-launches-air-attacks-along-cambodian-border

Indonesia counts human cost as more climate change warningPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thanks News Anon

>>2589137
>‘Yellow line’ that divides Gaza under Trump plan is ‘new border’ for Israel, says military chief
And nobody was surprised. Hamas should just break the agreement and kill the infantry enforcing the "new border", if they stick to the agreement they're only going to get praise for it from Israel's allies once they're dead. They'll be like "omg Israel was totally in the wrong here but that was like 50 years ago guys and Netanyahu isn't in power anymore and it was Netanyahu's dictatorial government that made us do this, wdym move out of the Gaza settlements though I was literally born here?"

>>2589137
Funny to me that RedNote is too libby ("wine mom-y") to the Western ultraleft but too commie for the Taiwanese ruling libs.

taiwan is d e m o c r a t i c

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>>2589148
>Shapiro's strategy for 2028 White House run starts with 2026
>Shapiro has quietly and methodically tightened his grip on Pennsylvania's Democratic machine in recent months — recruiting key congressional candidates, clearing the field for them and remaking the state party. The moves, insiders say, are designed to maximize Democratic wins while positioning Shapiro as the party's most electable presidential contender.
I can't believe this narcissist really thinks he's got what it takes to run for presidency in '28. Must've drank too much koolaid. Reminder to everyone else not from PA that when he ran for PA Governor in 2022, he was our last governor's AG and was the only candidate the state Dems ran for the primaries. Not even a humor of internal party democracy, just a bureaucratic-bordering-on-feudal line of succession. He's lucky his opponent by the time of the general election was Dominionist psycho Doug Mastriano, whose own campaign Josh boosted with his own excess, unspent campaign funds because he figured Mastriano was an easy opponent. Fuck him.

Who knows? The Dems clearly have more room to degenerate further.


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>>2442214

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• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

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>>2585668
I wonder if hamas regrets letting this one live. Not like that makes a difference but still. Pissrael is one sick society.

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>>2586108
Yea. Read Shlomo Sand. You will appreciate it!
Fdpd

>>2586108
>The most bizarre part was even states that the story of Jewish slavery in Egypt isn’t true
Of course it isn't true, btw, all that jazz predates Judaism, just a schizo zionist talking point with no basis in reality.

>>2588090
>moralist and nationalist drivel
Nah bro

>>2583849
This is one weird development.


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Are vietnam and cuba legit socialist projects? asking from a place of genuine ignorance because I know fuckall about how both countries run their economies.(Qtddtot)
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Is it easier to learn vietnamese or chinese? I'm a latino looking to save money and get the fuck out of latam.

Cuba is one of two genuine socialist economies I the world (the other being the DPRK). Vietnam more or less follows the Chinese model which I would argue is a valid means of socialist construction but is more strictly speaking a form of state capitalism (as Lenin used the term).
>>2589134
>Cuba is a shithole overrun by CIA ideology
Wtf does that mean?
>Vietnam has recently made surprising moves of rapprochmont with China. So I'd say Vietnam is socialist.
Socialism is when you have good relations with China.
>>2589135
With Vietnamese you at least wouldn't need to learn a new writing system.

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>>2589131

>>2589135
probably viet

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Boring. Seen this one.


 

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>>2589048
>because they are a democratic centralist organization
kek
dem cent was BANNED in DSA till the last convention

i am aware of that ballot tickets are non binding, but when you start having succesful candidates like Mamdani being forced to run as Democrats the Democrats will inevitably siphon them off

thats why the clean break is necessary

>gig workers are petit bourgeois because semantics
AAAAAAAAGGH YAAAAAAAARRRGGHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGG

>>2587616
You are still a goldbug, don't worry. Gold is an intermediary step that's acceptable for everybody

>>2588970
I work at the chicken producer and my paycheck has measurably gone down this year, they're cutting hours to try to create a higher rate of profit from labor by reducing overtime costs.

By the way we're a strong net exporter of chicken. We import labor for the industry but it's mostly prison laborers and vaguely legal agricultural visas. I can tell you as someone doing the demeaning work you subconsciously think is being exported to third world untermensch that there's no "labor aristocracy" in the fucking chicken plant. But I guess we're not real. The online left will need to be dealt with at some point.


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