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Why don't Palestinians just make czech hedgehogs like picrel? It worked for the Ukrainians. They have plenty of rubble.

Fuck Israel fascists! Free Palestine! RIP Abu Obaida!
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>>2566424
if it was a useful tactic im sure they would have adopted it. but i guess the metal is far more useful to be melted down, they can use it to reinforce tunnels, or make improvised explosives and shells.

>>2566519
Yeah,but they can get some rebar fucking easily.

>>2566589
There is a cease fire going on last time I checked. Maybe focus on humanitarian issues instead of building rebar obstacles.

>>2566591
>There is a cease fire going on
….? The Israelis never honored it and humanitarian aid is still being blocked

>>2566591
The ceasefire that the Zionists refuse to respect? That ceasefire?



 

"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2566250
>If you're white just go to some random SEA country and use your skills, get some basic white collar job, marry some local upper middle chick and their family will set you up for life
That's a good cure for incels and failsons after university but SEA jobs will absolutely crush you with >45 hours of work per week + horrible commute, and you will live the rest of your life with someone that will only loves you because you are white and you offer free immigration to the First World.

>>2566343
> and you will live the rest of your life with someone that will only loves you because you are white and you offer free immigration to the First World.
nah, that's pretty common yea but you might just meet an britainboo or whatever you would call that.
Not as uncommon as you'd think, but also probably not that useful for anyone on this site.

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>>2566284
I know you don't want to hear this but don't kill yourself. I have been where you have been, not in the same way but I have hit rock bottom. You can rebuild your life and make something of it.
I would try headnig here; https://www.acommuneinthenorth.org.uk/
Anarchist commune in Doncaster. I can't speak on behalf of them but if anyone has a bed you can rest on, food you can eat, and work you can do it will be them. Stay strong comrade.

>>2566284
Try getting the fuck out of Bongland before you take the final option.



 

Today a very much of fictitious "value" was loss on them Wall StreetZ thx to Trumpfgd's tariff's on Choynah. The US A"I" conglomerate is a complete bubble. Laydowns going on in the US. Real estate market status in US: fugged.

Let's celebrate the impovireshment of the first world while China keeps rising! Please post them stonks & predictions.

This is a pro-eggplant/brinjal/aubergine 🍆 thread and also anti-tomato 🍅 thread. Please respexts these common sense sensibilities. Thx.
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>>2566249
#TheBanksAreRunningOutOfMoney

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>>2566602
zoom out

>>2566561
yeah it could be that or people are getting squeezed and assets that are stores of value are getting liquidated, which means the banks are out of money

The curse we indigenous have put on the market worked



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).

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Typo



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TOMORROW NOTHING HAPPENS
CHILE ELECTION 2025
<The spectre of nothing is haunting America
The candidate of the communist party who is watering down to appeal to milder socialdemocrats and others is leading the polls. Next to her are 3 rightwingers, all bastard sons of Bolso and Drumpf
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>>2564764
>You got a niga named bukkake?
no he's white.

>>2563371
Meh it is a deeply divided legislature. Hung congress.

im chilean and this is not okay. Communism is for bigger countries like mexico and brazil not little ones like chile. What are you hueones thinking?

>>2565816
>communism is when you vote

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lol



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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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we got reports that a lot of the protesters were rallied and brought in packs by criminals linked to merchants who were threatened by local gangs who charge for protection if they didn't go to the protests;

https://x.com/FreddyOliviery/status/1989832913199010313

of the few Gen-z-ers that did go to the protest might be linked to a detained woman from Guadalajara named Daniela Toussaint who used to pimp minors in 2020

https://www.tvazteca.com/aztecauno/venga-la-alegria/notas-vla/notas/mario-bautista-acusado-abuso-sexual-daniela-toussaint-denunciantes

she was detained on the protests and are treating her like a victim now

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1MW3fxQMzm/

>>2565064
Thank you for your thoughtful response maoanon. I generally agree and I also wouldn't want to dismiss the grievances of the Nepalese working people. Of course there's something real, if a bit embryonic in these protests, otherwise they wouldn't happen. And I wouldn't want to be dismissive of any protests in principle, but I think it should be noted when these movements ARE coopted by liberals and that such things can happen extremely fast or in many cases are already predisposed to cooption. Popular resentment is a powerful force, porkies know this and they control the media landscape, thus molding the perceived outlets for that force in advance. I don't think it's a coincidence when we see these things happen in real time (the discord voting, the QR code banners in english, the "Gen Z" label, etc), that there is a certain alignment towards western interests. These factors should raise skepticism, while retaining solidarity with the working people regardless of course

Gen Zion


>>2563966
>which makes our Mexican nazis extra funny
I call them naztecs



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>no mention of "khmer rouge"

I don't know how to interpret pol pot.

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>>2565363
why do you feel you must interpret him, or anyone as an individual at all? i mean it would theoretically be kind of interesting to approach pol pot from a schizoanalytic angle but that seems >>>/dead/ on arrival

>>2547940
The same happened to Che in the Congo, why do people think that their "magikkk" has some effect on real, material and dialectical physics

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>>2565692
some of the magikk, like traditional medicines derived from herbs (myth and medicine being inseparable in many societies), was (and still is, in places) a reasonably well-enough to work explanation for the processes of real, material and dialectical physics
not unheard of are drugs used today being extracted, isolated and used on their own in scientific medicine, like the antimalarial drug artemisinin which was discovered during the secret chinese cultural revolution-era program project 523, along with a number of other compounds extracted by Tu Youyou from a variety of traditional chinese folk remedies that she collected the recipes of on a journey throughout the country. this earned her a nobel prize in physiology
<https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228382-000-the-modest-woman-who-beat-malaria-for-china/
however just like the medicinal plants which often contain not only the healing component(s) but also a number of other compounds including the ones with quite unpleasant side effects if ingested/applied on a human, if not outright poison that kills them; the magikk has a comparable byproduct of such in the idealist ways of thinking it is self-reinforcing

>picrel

medicinal plant of strychnos nux-vomica for thread [people's] tax. strychnine trees grow on ទួលស្លែង, Tuŏl Slêng [tuəl slaeŋ]; lit. "Hill of the Poisonous Trees" or "Strychnine Hill" another famous species is the chankiri tree



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Can someone give me non-bullshit explanation of how exactly Western PROLETARIAT benefits from imperialism?

The West exported their investments and know-how and helped in the industrialization of the third world. Not just China, but also SEA, Asian tigers, India, Brazil, Poland, Malaysia etc. This resulted in the exact opposite of what happened in colonialism. The Western industries were hollowed out this time, and outsourced to the third world. Now sure, the Western bourgie benefited from this, but the money didnt trickle down much. That's why in the 1970s you could support a family and live a decent life doing a simple blue collar job and now you cant. So where exactly did the Western PROLETARIAT benefit from this imperialism?
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>>2562260
it didnt give westoids any treats so thats why they think it didnt do shit

I speak for the empire but the empire doesn't speak for me

>>2562307
>The point of Scientific Socialism is to build Communism, not abolish markets. To negate the commodity aspects of socialist direct social products and to attempt to abolish commodity production is obviously erroneous. Ch’en Po-ta, a renegade and Trotskyite, clamored for the abolition of commodity production and exchange during the period of the rapid development of China’s rural people’s commune movement in a vain attempt to lead revolution and construction astray. Chairman Mao saw through this conspiracy in time and engaged him in a resolute struggle. In the resolutions of the Sixth Plenum of the Eighth Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party personally convened and chaired by Chairman Mao, this was pointed out: “This way of thinking which attempts to prematurely abolish commodity production and exchange, prematurely negate the constructive role of commodities, value, money, and price is detrimental to developing socialist construction and is therefore in correct.” Socialist commodity production must not only be retained, but must also be developed to consolidate the economic link between China’s industry and agriculture and between urban and rural areas in order to promote the development of socialist construction.
uh yeah "prematurely" abolish commodity production. In full communism its abolished. So yes the point of scientific socialism is to establish communism but communism implies that commodity production is abolished otherwise you will eventually recreate the social antagonisms of capitalism including class. This is basic shit.

>>2566158
You retards are both wrong, probably because you both redefined “socialism” to mean a specific government policy ya stupid cunts

>>2562294
I don’t identify with any nation, faggot



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>>2565403
>and he is way beyond deserving charitability at this point, but he keeps "according to jevons" as if this is some kind of important thing everyone should know and care about. so basically hes laundering techno-fascist nonsense

well yeah, he's a self admitted centrist lib but he's not going to save capitalism from communism by posting any more than we're going to defeat capitalism by posting.

>well jevons has become popular lately for his paradox that technological improvements in efficiency can lead to an overall increase in the consumption of a resource, not a decrease, and is popular in the context of AI being a bubble and stealing jobs.


I don't even see how that's a paradox. isn't it obvious that automation increases consumption of resource? A man with a chainsaw can process more wood than a man with a steel axe, and a man with a steel axe can process more wood than a man with a stone axe. This is why advancements in technology that increase the speed at which we process natural resources usually end up getting supplemented by other advancements in technology that increase the efficiency of our resource usage. Like miniaturization of transistors for example allow for more computing power to be packed into smaller and smaller chips, which is the principle by which Moore's law operated for decades. We're constantly working with changing situations.

>this of course ignores the TRPF and that robots dont produce value.


I forget what his response to this one was. Something about Marx making up anthropocentric rules I guess

>>2565418
the idea was that an increase in the efficiency of steam engines would result in less coal use, but instead the increased efficiency led to the deployment of more and more steam power driving a demand for more coal. so as computers and AI become more powerful instead of needing less computers to do the same work we will increasingly use computers for more and more things,

presumably they think the increased demand overcomes infinite growth in a finite universe and you dont have to address the contradiction of private ownership

to me it just seems like an adjacent argument to the idea that while new technology like the loom destroys seamstresses it creates job for loom repairs, which as i said ignores the trpf, and of course also ignores that the transition to a service economy relies on imperialist extraction that boomerangs back around to the domestic economy eventually as capital returns to suck the remaining juices that are left in the husk they previously destroyed

>>2565252
after gossen, he is the founder of "marginal utility" theory. his influence is absolutely immense.
>>2565390
i provided a review of his work "the theory of political economy" (1871) in one of the older threads, which people clearly never read. he's interesting to read since his findings are compatible with the classical labour theory of value, hence him and marshall are dubbed "neoclassical" economists in their defence of ricardo (e.g. keynes' general theory, japanese preface).
>>2565403
here's a question: why are you even in a political economy thread when you are intentionally ignorant of economic history? you are proudly idiotic, claiming to not know or care about jevons, as if this makes you superior. so, why are you here?

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>>2565881
>intentionally ignorant of economic history
Is that worse than being unintentionally ignorant? Aren't you that retard who thinks exchange value is the same as value in Marxist theory.

And what's the point of projecting this pychobabble about marginally decreasing utility of tendies for you into how firms operate. Some science you got there.



 

Nazism is founded on Satanism.
Nietzche, the philosopher whose works were used as a philosophical backing for the Reich, was a Grand master of the Ordo Templi Orientis Lodge, whose leader was Aleister Crowley. Aleister Crowley, if you don't know, was the premier satanist and occultist of the 19th century, who coined the term "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law". He is the man who inspired LaVey to found the Church of Satan.
Hitler himself was deeply interested in occultism, and openly expressed this. Nazism in fact directly traces its roots to Ariosophy, a racist offshoot of Theosophy, the movement Crowley was a part of. Himmler was particularly embroiled in this.
The recent rise of Nazism is nothing more and nothing less than a psyop to compromise the right-wing youth into being Satanists.
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>>2565990
The return of anti-Semitism and fascism on a global scale is a foreshadowing of a global alliance of Gentile nations against Jerusalem. God is allowing this rebellion against Him to happen on purpose so that Jews will repent to God and accept Jesus. Biblical end times prophecy or something

>>2565990
>Nietzche, the philosopher whose works were used as a philosophical backing for the Reich, was a Grand master of the Ordo Templi Orientis
<Fact
Reported for retardation.

Aleister Crowley was/is absolutely not a 'satanist', and neither was/is the Ordo Templi Orientis. Their beliefs are essentialy Jewish Qabbalah with a few 'egyptian' influences, they worship the same Abrahamic God as almost everyone else, they just have sex about it sometimes so puritans kneejerked and labelled them 'satanists'.

your analysis is historically illiterate and idealist, material conditions are the primary determinants in the development of history and culture, the social 'superstructure' is derived from the material, is a reaction to it.

>>2565990
I would describe everything in this thread (including Ayn Rand) as an outgrowth of German Romanticism.

Also btw i copy and pasted this thread unto mutiple imageboards and found this site had the most intelligent takes on it



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