/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2572492
A heartless Ultra’s life for me

>>2572106
its true but more nuanced than a direct conspiracy. trots are fine in latam for example. leftcoms and anarchists are also pretty anti-communist. opposing the ussr is pretty stupid usually there is a conflation here with modern russia which obviously isn't communist. same with the cpc. its fine to be critical or skeptical but actually propagandizing against them in a public forum is certainly anti-communist. i find that most people dont "worship" either one and usually people think a few online personality psychos like the ACP are representative of the majority when they very much are not. and finally campism in the pejorative sense isn't a real thing. being in the socialist camp is good.

>>2572352
>lesser imperialist
no such thing, its either imperialist or not and if you actually understand imperialism then you know it only applies to ex british colonies western europe japan and worst korea.

>>2572376
>"multipolar" nations are not only doing nothing to help them, but are often actively harming them as well, so i don't want to hear it
pretty clearly misunderstanding the point. unipolarity means no competition and IMF sets loan rates like a monopolist. multipolarity means lower rates for productive development(the definition of progress according to marx) due to competition outside the dollar system. thats it

western marxism is anti=communism
read Losurdo

americans are sleeping

New thread

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2593380.html#2593385

>>2592232

MTG redemption arc?

>>2593204
No he doesn’t you fucking moron, he’s a goddam braindead diet-strasserite AT BEST

Stop fucking dick glazing goddamn internet celebrities, it’s pathetic you stupid cunts

>>2592377
didn't get answer. can only assume leftypol is taken over by LLMs now

>they suck both US and multipolar dick at the same time
most countries do this
"multipolar" powers also suck the USA's dick

>>2566707
Kerala should be independent first. USIR when?

>>2566270
I honestly don't know how the Naxalites didn't get more support. There must have been really strong boogeyman anti-communist propaganda by Hindu religioids/West-glazers

>>2566430
No one can convince me electoral democracy isn't just a release valve for revolutionary pressure.

india should've just given the minorities the full Xinjiang Uyghur treatment in the 1950s
china wins, as always

>>2591280
>>Wants the Party to lead the revolution
Bureaucrat.
>>Wants to establish councils/re-establish multiparty elections within the scope of socialism once the revolution abolishes capitalism
It'd be contradictory to have one party leading the working class and to then have multiparty elections, that would defeat the party's purpose. Also political parties are bourgeois.
>>Wants to be worldwide so that the bourgeoisie can't establish itself somewhere else
Yeah but how does that actually happen?
>The ML actions don't seem to have been this excellent too
Which proves that they're both impotent.

I can't speak to historical divisions as I've never found Trotsky that worthwhile as a theorist. I still don't understand what permanent revolution would mean in a practical sense had Trotsky taken power in the 20s, and Stalin ended up siding with the left of the party by the end of the 20s anyway.

As an organiser in Britain, I have frequent contact with Trots. They vary depending on the party.

> Socialist Party
Honestly, these guys are fine. They're a key part of TUSC which is a worthwhile project. They tend to have good links with local councils and, in my limited experience, will engage with MLs in good faith. They're not very radical so this probably helps avoid pointless sectarian bickering, or maybe I've only spoken with the good ones.

> SWP
They're sort of okay, I guess. Some of the work they do, like the People's Assembly and Stop the War, is important and MLs work alongside them. Individually they're often fairly based older ladies who genuinely give a fuck and will work with you in good faith. As an org they're hopelessly committed to entryism and we've all heard the horror stories of how they lie and cheat and subvert collective movements to their organisational goals. The classic symbol of this is how they show up to broad left events with protest signs with their name plastered on it - just so lame and bad faith lol. They get a lot of work done but for little use - quite impressive how busy they are without their work going anywhere meaningful.

>RCP (formally Socialist Appeal)
Yeah, these guys suck really, really bad. Their political project is based on having the most radical and correct opinions, and then educating everyone to agree with these opinions. This is why they only sell newspapers and run internal educationals, because they think revolution entails convincing the working class to agree with their very limited and idealist interpretation of Marxism. They don't need to base their movement on the working class and their experiences because they already have the Correct Opinions TM. Any meaningful organisation within the working class is a waste of time and there's always an excuse to not do it - bureaucratic unions and such like.

Individually, they're almost always objectionable in their interactions with MLs. Just looking to pick a fight and bicker away. Actually, this is how they behaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Trotsky is OK but trotskyists are not.
In my country, trotskyists just repeat the liberal's geopolitical positions. They're all "free ukraini", "down with Maduro!", "Cuba's a dictatorship", and on and on. All they care about is "being right" and selling newspapers. They don't have the slightest interest in taking power.

>>2592540
I agree, he still did damage to the international movement, but it was inevitable imo.

>>2593356
Sure, Deng made retarded choices. But was Mao any better after the Sino-Soviet Split and the "le hegemon" nonsense?

>>2570436
>genz
>mostly elderly
Huh

It looks like the Nepal thread is gone, so I'm posting this here. I hope everyone that said this "gen z" shit wasn't a color revolution is ready to apologize.

US regime change front funded Nepalese youth revolutionaries, leaks reveal

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/12/10/cia-front-funded-nepal-revolutionaries/

>Leaked files reviewed by The Grayzone show the US gov’t covertly funded Nepalese youth groups in the run-up to a violent coup. The “Gen Z” shadow army mobilized as the US sought to neutralize Chinese and Indian influence over Kathmandu – now controlled by a leader chosen by an informal social media poll.

>The US government’s National Endowment for Democracy (NED) spent hundreds of thousands of dollars tutoring dozens of Nepalese youth on “strategies and skills in organizing protests and demonstrations” prior to a violent coup which overthrew the government of Nepal in September 2025, leaked documents show.

>The documents reveal a clandestine campaign organized by an NED division known as the International Republican Institute (IRI) that sought to cultivate a Nepalese “network” of young political activists explicitly designed to “become an important force to support US interests.” The leaked documents note that the IRI’s program “connects vibrant youth… and political leaders” and “provides comprehensive trainings on how to launch advocacy campaigns and protests.”

>The demonstrations organized under the NED’s umbrella would relate to “issues selected” by the Institute and its local collaborators, thereby “ensuring the U.S. concerns with Nepal’s democracy [would] be resolved,” an IRI report stated. As The Grayzone reported, a similar effort by the IRI in Bangladesh helped generate a coup in August 2024.

>>2592415
glad to know even that close to the border,China just let the governements be couped for the lulz.
The CIA really is the only secret service allowed to do actual work to further their country interests once again.

>>2592415
Unbelievable how correct we always turn out to be man. Literally NED funded and managed lmfao. All those people screeching mad because we were skeptical and called it a color revolution, where are they now? I will accept their apology in the form of Japanese ritual suicide harakiri >>2592485
>This is China's fault somehow
Lol

Theres always da ACP ya kno

>>2592799
>There's always the bigoted grifting extremely online "communist" splinter org

Kill yourself

>>2592804
No, Id rather have coffee

>>2592795
wherever other marxists are. There's no one size fits all answer

>>2593041
fed wrecker

>>2593089
Are you this much of a monkey? An upgrade to visual processing isn't the same thing as consciousness emerging, you rube.

>>2593146
Nor is it even tangentially related…

>>2593146
It has flow-on effects. Broaden your mind. If there is visual processing that improves, then that means it can be applied to a bunch of jobs and automate things that were once low-paid, dangerous jobs that no one wanted. An example might be a packer in a factory. It's not "sentient" but it would be a robot that can effectively self-manage tasks in a warehouse.

>>2593146
>visual processing isn't the same thing as consciousness emerging
What the fuck are you smoking? Who is claiming that AI is conscious?

Video shows just how retarded lawmakers prohibiting THC are.

Total 420chan refugee death

>>2592839
American WODigger

>>2592132
Not even one progressive party in Thailand. Not even worth to vote.

>>2592135
>Not even one progressive party in Thailand
>Not even one
Kek

>>2592132
>>2592135
>>2592146
MFP is alright as a party.

>>2592204
dude that parties banned

>>2592205
Nah they created another party, People's Party.

>>2584219
Ngl if you did this as a trade union banner, it would look pretty sick.

https://xcancel.com/WhiteRoseSocAU/status/1998189853826289765

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>>2591443
Exercise utmost caution in these chats. They'll definitely be infiltrated by fascists themselves

>>2591556
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>Reactions are anonymous in channels, because followers are anonymous, unlike groups, where you can see who's included in a group.

Good instinct though. Being security-conscious is important.

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