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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2579817
Depends on the time and place. Women used to be bought and sold for marriage dowries. Anyway serfs were tied to land. I wasn't saying women are slaves, but that they are seen as property in a lot of societies, which is why there is this asymmetrical with relationships. It's why men are more than happy to have sex with women of other races but when "their" (property) women have sex with men of other races, the West/East/North/South has fallen and billions must die.

>>2579821
thanks for the book


iirc India was ready to drop the caste system
to which england intervened to keep it.

>>2579821
thank you anon <3



 

Today a very much of fictitious "value" was loss on them Wall StreetZ thx to Trumpfgd's tariff's on Choynah. The US A"I" conglomerate is a complete bubble. Laydowns going on in the US. Real estate market status in US: fugged.

Let's celebrate the impovireshment of the first world while China keeps rising! Please post them stonks & predictions.

This is a pro-eggplant/brinjal/aubergine 🍆 thread and also anti-tomato 🍅 thread. Please respexts these common sense sensibilities. Thx.
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>>2579720
how does this effect me

>>2579744
It doesn't unless it's an early sign of a liquidity crisis in which case you're so fucked it's not funny

>>2579800
What are the chances it's a liquidity crisis?

>>2579818
I think it's been high the whole year, money is being molested left and right and banks have been relying on short term borrow for months but this particular BTC crunch seems like it's reacting to interest hikes in Japan



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Why didn‘t the British colonize North America? Why did they leave such vast lands to a bunch of random persecuted people fleeing to America?

>Well they lost the war again them

Okay, but Great Britain didn‘t seem as interested in colonizing America anyways which is the point of my question.
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>>2579344
I‘m not American breh

most intelligent ESL

>>2579139
The East coast of North America really was not remotely valuable in material terms compared to India or Africa.
Besides furs and wood it had no real resources that couldn't be gotten elsewhere easier and cheaper, plus we still had Canada, and we did colonise across Canada all the way across to the Pacific.
Americans simply overvalue what the colonies were worth massively because of their ego and because of the power the US now has.
Back then, the British saw the American colonies were a troublesome backwater that we could take or leave having control over.
It was a dumping ground for puritans and schizos who weren't wanted at home, and failures who had nothing to lose by starting over in a relative wilderness.
While the Yankees pretend they slayed a giant, Britain only fought against US independence half heatedly and barely managed a shrug when the war was concluded.
Plus the French were willing to arm American resistance to British rule, to the point of economically destroying themselves just to say "fuck you" to Britain.
Which as a matter of fact is unironically the main contributors to the spike in poverty which ultimately lead to the French Revolution.

t. Brit repeating what we were taught in A Level (High school diploma level) History class like a decade ago

>>2579139
Security economics and the difficulties of keeping control over distant lands. The UK had a global empire of which the UK was just one bit, so it was more cost effective to try to make treaties with natives. The independent US on the other hand faced a different calculus: there was no risk that the army would be tied down fighting Indians while France attacked their European heartlands.

>>2579698
"Of which the UK was just one bit" > "of which the US was just one bit"



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Ah, look, look! [sniffs violently] This whole question of the hammer and the sickle—my God!—it is already a kind of ideological joke, eh? Because when we look at symbols, we think they are innocent little pictograms. But symbols—they are like those weird Slovenian pastries: they always hide something inside, something messy, something unexpected. [sniff]

And so let me propose—of course, in a totally irresponsible, speculative way—that the hammer and sickle is not merely a workers’ emblem, no! It is like a dialectical offspring, a strange symbolic synthesis, between the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent-and-star.

You see, in early Christianity—especially before it became this gigantic bureaucratic megachurch—there is this radical concern for the poor, the oppressed. You have this idea that the first shall be last, that the beggar is closer to truth than the emperor. And what is this if not the proto-Marxist suspicion that the ruling class is full of, eh, ideological nonsense? [sniffs]

And then, Islam—look, please, I say this with all respect and purely in symbolic terms—brings this martial decisiveness, this warrior energy. Not in the Hollywood sense of violence and terrorism, but in the sense of the angel with the flaming sword, the insistence that faith is inseparable from action. It is a kind of ethical militancy: do something, engage, submit not to oppression but to the absolute.

So what happens when you combine these? [sniff] You get the hammer and sickle: the Christian concern for the poor—the weak, the exploited—joined with the Islamic ethos of active struggle, of refusing to be passive. It is as if the cross and the crescent enter a Hegelian marriage: thesis, antithesis, and then—boom!—the proletarian symbol emerges as the bastard child.

And the beauty—eh, the obscenity!—is that Marxism tries to become a universal emancipatory project without the supernatural elements. It keeps the moral passion of early Christianity, the activist thrust of Islam, but throws out God like old cabbage from a Slovenian kitchen. [sniffs, gestures wildly]

So the hammer and sickle becomes this strange thing: a materialist Pentecost, a secular jihad, a revolution without heaven, formed from the leftovers of two great religious traditions, but now made edible for the modern worker.

And this, of course, is precisely why nobody wants to admit it! Because it reveals that even our most “atheist” symbols are hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Classic leftypol sniffposting

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Bombs Over Caracas Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
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>>2579630
>praxis
<spraying a wall with paint instead of reactionary brains

>>2579206
>It's cracked but the deep state is deeply afraid of the possibility of an organized revolutionary movement led by a "Black messiah."
yeah they killed fred hampton for the same reason, and he was an even bigger threat, despite being much younger (killed at 21)

>>2579148
>>2579133
what's funny is rubio (or maybe it was ted cruz) once admitted that his father fled batista, not castro, despite lying about that for years

>>2579592
>CIA shooter? I thought it was a national guard shooter.
The guy who was the shooter worked for the CIA in Afghanistan.

>>2579347
where the fuck is that house located that its 1.7 million? the fuck?

the house I grew up in is much nicer and it has like 900k value at most…



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Why the fuck does FINANCE make so much money despite not producing anything and therefore being even more parasitic and useless than even normal capitalist companies that make goods and services, its like capitalism in its purest form of just being a machine that turns money into more money with zero social utility.
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>>2578768
>BTW… that's why even "day trading" is inaccessible to the proletariat: they are either broke or in debt.
Me, and my parents, are all proletarians and have each earned enough money to invest in mutual funds. There are some nice benefits to socdem life.

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>>2578772
>If only Marx had the balls to actually work a proletarian job, maybe his life wouldn't be so fraught and precarious.

but the life of the proletariat IS fraught and precarious, especially in the time/place Marx was writing about them:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch10.htm

<Dr. Greenhow states that the average duration of life in the pottery districts of Stoke-on-Trent, and Wolstanton is extraordinarily short. Although in the district of Stoke, only 36.6% and in Wolstanton only 30.4% of the adult male population above 20 are employed in the potteries, among the men of that age in the first district more than half, in the second, nearly 2/5 of the whole deaths are the result of pulmonary diseases among the potters. Dr. Boothroyd, a medical practitioner at Hanley, says:


<“Each successive generation of potters is more dwarfed and less robust than the preceding one.”


<In like manner another doctor, Mr. M’Bean:


<“Since he began to practice among the potters 25 years ago, he had observed a marked degeneration especially shown in diminution of stature and breadth.”


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>>2578790
Well today the most immiserated proletariat are the people mining the minerals which end up in your devices. And that's why Lenin wrote extensively about the labor aristocracy in imperial core countries and the need for anti-imperialist solidarity with oppressed nations:

<Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.


<This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”



<Private property based on the labour of the small proprietor, free competition, democracy, all the catchwords with which the capitalists and their press deceive the workers and the peasants are things of the distant past. Capitalism has grown into a world system of colonial oppression and of the financial strangulation of the overwhelming majority of the population of the world by a handful of “advanced” countries. And this “booty” is shared between two or three powerful world plunderers armed to the teeth (America, Great Britain, Japan), who are drawing the whole world into their war over the division of their booty.


- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, PREFACE TO THE FRENCH AND GERMAN EDITIONS

<Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the advanced countries has
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>>2578687
thats great but why does industrial capital tolerate this and not just form their own banks instead of letting finance capital siphon off their profits

>>2579570
i mean they do. but then many industrial capitalists become finance capitalists, because financial markets offer quicker and often higher returns than reinvesting in production. so as surplus profits accumulate, it becomes more profitable for industrial capitalists to place money into financial assets or create finance subsidiaries. 🤑



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What it says on the tin, this applies to Western Leftism as a whole, but particularly American “socialism” can be written off as basically the militant defense of capitalism and Empire

What do I mean? American Leftism almost entirely centers around resurrecting the 90 year old New Deal. That is literally it. Nothing more radical. Nothing less imperial. Hell, usually not even anything less racist! American leftoids do not care about the history of the New Deal, do not care about the contradictions of the New Deal, do not care about the outcome of the New Deal nor the purpose of the New Deal. Unironically all that matters to them is that for nearly a century they have been taught that socialism is when the government does things therefore FDR was a communist. And that’s a good thing. This is unironically what the majority of American leftists believe. I know why they believe these things, but is it possible to break them out of their worship of the Settler Fuhrer (FDR) and his radical program to save capitalism through Americanization and American totalitarianism?
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>>2577641
Im not reading this shit

the Swedish socdems did much worse than sterilizing cripples. for one thing they turned a blind eye to freikorps (Munchska kåren), they forbade sending aid to Spanish Republicans, they armed Finnish Whites during the Finnish revolution

>>2577823
I think the problem is more that the uniparty pretty much controls the entire election process from top to bottom, up to and including who gets on the ballot and how they're counted.

>>2579366
Join school boards and shit 🙄

Because things like class struggle and class consciousness are merely asserted as hegemonic ideals despite lacking a material basis born from actual struggle within the labor movement, in no small part because American corporations both de-industrialized and are on a footing of total warfare at the mere hint of union drives.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2573637
We don't, it's a meme. Reactoids hate the french

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>>2575950
Un vil tankie qui veut la bite de Poutine dans sa bouche.
Le communisme n'est possible qu'en défendant l'Ukraine et Taïwan de toutes nos forces contre les offensives réactionnaires impérialistes et bourgeoises.
Rejoignez le NPA.

>>2575950
putain le PTB est tellement basé

>>2576108
je crois pas que le npa est mauvais au point de demander la défense de taiwan si ? ils ont quand même pas voté pour les envoi d'armes à l'ukraine ?
en même temps qu'attendre de guignols qui se définissent en "anti" tellement ils ont accepté les prémisses de l'anti communisme

Votre avis sur la Commune de Paris ?



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I'm presently working on a translation of "Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation" or "Aperçu sur la Formation Historique de la Nation Haïtienne''. This is considered one of the definitive works on Haitian history, written by Haitian communist Étienne Charlier. As far as I'm aware it has never been publicly archived or translated into english before. I might post more sporadically as I go.

Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation
2nd Edition

Editor's Note
Les Éditions DAMI is pleased to present to the public, more than fifty years after the first edition, the re-edition of the book Overview of the Historical Formation of the Haitian Nation as it was written by Étienne D. Charlier in 1954. This book is an essential work for anyone who wants to understand the historical foundations of the Haitian Nation.
May the youth find answers here to their questions and reflect powerfully on the History of our country.
Our thanks go to Mrs. Ghislaine Rey Charlier, widow of Etienne D. Charlier, and to her sons André and Max, for the confidence shown in Les Éditions DAMI and for all the documents and information provided.
—Les Éditions DAMI Montreal, August 2009

Biography of the Author
Étienne Charlier was born in Aquin on June 12, 1904. Son of Danton Charlier and Gervrine Girault, both originally from l'Anse-à-Veau. Upon the death of his mother in 1906, Étienne was adopted by the couple Numa Cassy, whose wife was born Louise Charlier, who brought him to l'Anse-à-Veau. He remained there until September 1916. His studies, which began at the École Nationale de l'Anse-à-Veau, continued the same year in Port-au-Prince at the Petit Séminaire Collège St-Martial. Equipped with his second part baccalaureate, he entered the Port-au-Prince Law School directed by Dean Léon Nau. He obtained his law degree in 1927. He took an active part in the founding of la Nouvelle Ronde, which he managed after Antonio Vieux until the review ceased publication in April 1926.
He left for the Northern United States in September 1928 where he continued his legal studies at Columbia University. Then he went to Paris (France) in 1929, where he began a Doctorate in Law. He defended his thesis, On the arrangement of the principle of individual Freedom of Labor in French Law on May 30, 1932, at the Faculty of Law in Paris.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Man Haiti has to be one of the most continuously fucked over nations on earth. As a yinzer I live only a drive near a town called Charleroi (My great aunt who my grandpa ghosted in vice versa actually lives there) and a bunch of Haitians immigrated there and despite the fact that they actually benefited this dilapidated unheard of declining rust belt town everyone hated them.

>nation
yawn

>>2579242
It likely wont be possible, sadly. This work is still-in-print and Charlier's family controls the rights. While it's entirely possible that they'd give the project their blessing, this wouldn't be something I could just take straight to a publisher. My current plan is it archive it on Library Genesis and format a digital version which could be bound from home.

Preface (1954)

Relatively few in number have, concerning the formation of the nation, presented the results of their work, and that work has been fragmentary. But through their work the materiality of the facts is now established, the essential character of the events acquired, barring, as always, a few possible clarifications and details.

It was inevitable that, from these accumulated scattered materials, a general overview would emerge; where the interplay of all these fragments, succeeding one another and clashing according to a rhythm, could be shown to conform to the laws of history which condition the constants of social evolution since the organization of the first societies.

The author of this book devoted himself to this task. Here is the result of enormous labor. So many questions which, until now, remained obscure in their complexity or poorly explained in their causality, despite the efforts of researchers, are treated and analyzed here according to the strictest methods of modern information. The mechanism that was the secret driving force, under a myriad of appearances, whose processes disconcerted the shortsightedness of many commentators, is explained here.

With an unparalleled wealth of detail, colonial society is brought back to life, torn between the demands of a revolutionary period and the imperative of class interests. Hence its inconsistencies, its sycophantic concessions, a seesaw game that is merely the political representation of the contradictions inherent to a political system destined for the worms. Hence the tenacious, fierce struggle of a reactionary bourgeoisie braced in defense of its privileges against the rush of the enslaved masses determined to violently seize the end of their exploitation; against the rise of the freedmen seeking to complete, through the conquest of political rights, the status acquired through the power of money.

The clarity of this critique, sharpened by the objective methods of the laws of science, is manifest in the examination of this Southern War where, alongside a question of epidermal nuance which is certainly not to be minimized, there is inscribed an economic content of capital importance. This refers to the action of the two colonialist powers, the English and the Yankee, trying to secure their interests against the French, as well as the class struggle in Saint-Domingue which had reached a point of exasperation.

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>>2579422
*Lechaud is referring to Toussaint L'Ouverture



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>>2578147
because the uniforms are cute, just put on the uniform and kick me already

>>2578104
>National Post



>>2579328
>>2579340
What did he do?



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