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Thank you for everything, Joseph <3
I have seen many interesting input from various anons on Stalin here, whether in the form of opinions, books, documentaries etc. They happen sporadically, scattered on different threads which rarely have anything to do with Stalin, ML or USSR. I figured a Stalin General Thread would be useful. A place where to share all things Stalin and discuss all things Stalin.
Though I am pro-Stalin, this is not a strictly Stalin-worship thread. Posts critical of Stalin too are welcome. I simply request that they are in good faith, and not just 'muh ML' trolls.
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>>2367160
>be right but it doesn't represent any shift away from how the Soviet economy worked under Stalin.
what you talking about the Kosygin reforms changed the economy.

>>2364681
>i don't like it 100% unlike biden so it's a hecking stalinism.
Succdems, always being catty bitches.

>>2367217
>Kosygin reforms
>1965
So Khrushchev era was socialism


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>>2367369

Khrushchev broke a lot of Stalin era institutions but didn't really have time to cement replacements. The k-l reform really foes cement the basic features that lead to the restoration of capitalism.



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>Major firms such as HSBC, Standard Chartered, and Saudi Aramco have begun deploying or testing Chinese AI systems, including models developed by DeepSeek and Alibaba, according to a WSJ report published on Wednesday. Even US-based cloud providers such as Amazon Web Services, Microsoft, and Google are offering DeepSeek to clients, despite alleged security concerns flagged by the White House.

>>2367412
Thank u jesus

>>2367492
>approaching but never reaching zero
Universally applicable androids

There have been more than thousand strikes in china this year. China repressed workers and bowed to the usa

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>Kabul (TDI): The Taliban-led Afghan government has officially canceled a major oil extraction contract with a Chinese firm, citing repeated breaches of the agreement.

>The deal was signed between the Afghan Ministry of Mines and Petroleum and the China-based Central Asia Petroleum and Gas Co, Ltd. (CAPEIC) in January 2023, was terminated this week after the company failed to meet investment deadlines and also violated multiple clauses.


>The 25-year agreement, which was previously celebrated as the largest foreign investment since the Taliban’s return to power, focused on oil exploration in the Amu Darya basin, covering the provinces of Sar-e-Pul, Jowzjan, and Faryab.


>The Chinese company had committed to investing $540 million over the first three years and planned to extract up to 1,000 tons of oil daily. As part of the agreement, Afghanistan was to receive 20% of the extracted oil, with a gradual increase to 75% with time, and around 3,000 local jobs were promised to the Afghani’s.


OH NONONONO XIBROS…
https://thediplomaticinsight.com/taliban-cancels-540-million-oil-deal-with-china/



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If you 'denounce' the historical real socialism that existed and exists, you can't be a communist.
>but those were not real communism
Real communism is the movement which abolishes the current state of things (private property the alienation of species-being) and it is the expansion of worker association to international terms. To think 'communism' can be reduced to just a single historical act is silly. It is, after all, a process. Real socialism was one such historical act in a chain of many to come.
>okay, they are communist, but they are totalitarian! They are authoritarian!
Those are empty words liberal ideolouges use to justify equating the Soviet anti-colonial socialist project and the Nazifascistic colonial Lebensraum project, to keep the status quo of liberal representative democracy as the 'only democratic nonauthoritarian' society.
>what do you mean the soviet project is an anti-colonial project?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/18.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/07b.htm
>I… I didn't know. I'm sorry. I will now study the history of the Soviet Union and build an antiimperialist socialist project on the Marxist-Leninist tradition. I will support the anti-colonial Palestinian people's struggle. I will globalize the intifada.
And you will defend the People's Republics of China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Belarus and the DPRK. You will study Cuban agroecology and you will learn to live with nature. You will have Chinese high speed rails and high quality Belarusian agricultural machinery. You will be happy.

Any questions?
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>>2367475
t. "one day I will own this boot" type mf

>>2366888
>American wage slaves work for Beff Jezos
>Soviet wage slaves worked for the state
>American wage slaves answered to some beer belly thumb head named Steve Bilkos or something
>Soviet wage slaves answered to some vodka smelling pale bastard named Ivan Stroganoff
profound take, did you also know that the USSR and nazi germany were exactly the same because
<they had wage labor
<they produced commodities
<they both had a man with a moustache leading them
crazy, I know

>>2366888
>Soviet wage slaves worked for the state
is there no nuance between a worker's state and a bourgeois state? why are you lapsing into essentialism? do you not feel ashamed to put out these "i'm 14 and leftcom and this is deep" slop arguments out here
why don't you kill yourself, anticommunist rat?

>>2366888

> The soviet union is the exact same as America because people have jobs


What are you 12? I swear you anarkiddies just want a society where you can shoot up heroine all day. Only difference between you and lolbertarians is they realize they need to get slaves to do the actual work for them to shoot up heroine all day but you retards think everyone can just sit around shooting up heroine funded by daddy's trust fund.

>>2366730
>muh first chapter of Capital
>muh commodity production
>muh brown bourgeoisie
Please for the love of god come up with your own arguments. Stop browsing reddit, it is destroying your brain



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>>2367496
LMAO what a bunch of fucking idiots

>>2367719
wait until you get laid off lmao

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>>2367724
>Ge*hen"na (g�*hĕn"n�), n. [L. Gehenna, Gr. Ge`enna, Heb. Gē Hinnōm.] (Jewish Hist.) The valley of Hinnom, near Jerusalem, where some of the Israelites sacrificed their children to Moloch, which, on this account, was afterward regarded as a place of abomination, and made a receptacle for all the refuse of the city, perpetual fires being kept up in order to prevent pestilential effluvia.
<In the New Testament the name is transferred, by aneasy metaphor, to Hell.

>>2367445
Also there were multiple waves of Cuban migrants. Not all of them were anti-castro. The first waves were anti-Castro. The subsequent waves were just dodging the declining standard of living caused by the embargo.



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Whenever I see our burger comrades cry about their boomers? I just smirk. You guys got it good.
What unites post-soc boomers with burger boomers is:
>they did gone got it way better than the following generation(s)
>loudmouthedness
>know-it-all mentality
What differentiates post-soc boomers from burger boomers (from most obvious to less):
>They enjoyed WAAAAAY more "social benefits": world class and completely free education; rents paid toward the local gov. (instead of private entities) that cost them at most 5% of the median wage; way more off time, paid holidays, maternity leaves, etc.
>during the regime change (soc -> cap) they faced a market environment that was basically EMPTY, meaning they could easily become the "plumbing tsar in a region" with just their basic socialist provided education (if they were anti-social enough) and pre-capitalist "colleague-network" (as opposed to burger: heavily saturated market + inter-p-bourg networked "capital");
>they had a MUCH EASIER access to unproductive/parasitic capital post-economic-system-transition, especially in the sense of (almost) FREE REAL ESTATE (acquired during socialism), which they converted to rent seeking, and so on;
>and very importantly, the "post-soc to pro-capitalist transition period" had basically provided them a period which paralleled what Marx and Engels called the "phase of primitive accumulation" in the context of Great Britain, which is to say: legalized robbery;
>the afformentioned meant in the context of industrializing Britain that newly emerging capitalists just could force everyday serfs into wage labour. For post-soc boomers, however, this meant the unashamed STEALING of state manufacturing, importing, exporting, EVEN if they were literally illegal under the post-socialist law…
I could go on, but hear me out on the consequences!
Fucking post-soc boomers:
>Had it easier than post-ww2 boomers in Burgerland (explained above);
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Complete bullshit. Most post-soc boomers agree that socialism was better, they were robbed during the transition, and now they barely survive on their pensions.

I'm guessing OP has a reactionary daddy. My parents are pretty based.

>>2362604
You are describing ruling class people, not working class people. For the working class, the reaction meant severe deprivation. Boomers are pretty based on the zigger side, and while I don't know much about the Nazi side, these people definitely didn't have it better than the burgers who sell their houses for a 20x markup and go on world cruises.

>>2362604
I mean imagine basically living in a capitalist society but the heads of your state call it socialism because your wagie job is employed to the state rather than Beff Jezos (you literally still have a boss and a 8-12 hour shift and everything lmao) and your grand trade off for this is a shitty subsidized apartment, a shitty car it took ten years to acquire, can’t listen to rock and roll or watch any film with Hollywood level funding, you live in a country culturally and socially trapped in 1950, horror movies don’t exist (lmfao) and even though you are an engineer in the grand “socialist” proletarian freedom paradise your quality of life (what you have access to) is literally lower than an engineer in the US has; your country, which is supposedly a more advanced stage of society than that of the West, is literally constantly playing catchup in terms of consumer luxuries and quality of living, all your economic metrics copy the West anyway (lmfao) and the only technologies that do outstrip the West are nonsense that bring prestige to the state and no tangible benefits to you personally, like enough nukes to sterilize the planet (planetary extinction is one of the grandest ambitions of AES!) and laughable “space travel” that goes nowhere for both sides of the Berlin Wall; to top it off, like 35 years after “AES” decided to become a normal “actually existing” capitalist regime, you have some retarded ass zoomer born and bred in the United States telling you how great it was, for you, to be a wage slave to the state rather than a wage cuck to Beff Jezos, except, you remember, that dumbass zoomer is a fucking loser and dumbass while you were a paid and trained engineer that would have been living better had you been born elsewhere, such as the US, UK, Japan, etc, and you genuinely don’t give a fuck that a poor unskilled worker would be better off in the USSR than the USA

Of course, you don’t know you didn’t even live in a socialist society but rather a long failed attempt at socialism that spent half its history playing catchup to long established, much wealthier capitalist societies that never existed in denial of their own nature, so you become a hyper reactionary, because your only understanding of what “socialism” is amounts to a shittier version of the capitalist mode of production

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>>2362604
the communist parties were given mandates to do unspeakable evil for greater good they had obligations that they didint uphold and therefore collapsed i dont blame the anticommunist reactions of the 90s and boomers for participating.

>>2366647

> Society that was literally feudalist two generations ago didn't catch up with slaver empire sitting on wealth from 200 years of colonial extraction


Your hypothetical soviet guy would literally be a illiterate shitting in the streets like an Indian if Russia wasn't communist. That's if hypothetical non-communist Russia wasn't already ethnically cleansed by the Nazis or exterminated by the Americans since you think nukes are apparently useless. Coomers like you only care about treats like "subsidized apartment" isn't the difference between life and death for millions of people. Idgaf people living in the soviet union couldn't jerk off to hentai. Coomers like you should all be lynched tbh.



 

i really want to understand how lenin, stalin, mao, kim, xi etc. managed to turn so many shitholes into nuclear superpowers

the 5 year plans always seems to follow the same pattern though

>nationalize an industry

>up production
>profit
>reinvest into industry
>expand into new industry
>repeat
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>>2365341
Saw something else interesting which is that because of just how lax South Korea's working hours laws are, they're actually extremely unproductive (in terms of money produced per hour for the company) because since hiring these guys for so long is so cheap the companies cheap out and don't give them the best equipment to help them with their work.

>>2364246

They'd be like India, a mentally colonized shithole where the only nice part is the Communist controlled enclave. KMT are a bunch of retards who couldn't out-maneuver a bunch of idpol liberals who secretly think they're Japs.

>>2364246
India says hello.

>>2362879
Asian countries aren't high trust bro, you basically don't exist outside of the family or professional workplace matrix, you ever see those Webms were gooks literally walk past/avoid some random that is on fire?

>>2363926
no shit you're the one who doesn't know what capital is mongrel



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17th July 1936

''How do the women in the Soviet Union stand towards the new abortion law?'
I would like to first point out the fact that it is an error to place the question of abortion in the foreground in the assessment of the June 27 law. The new law has another and very particular purpose: to give women an even greater possibility than before of combining motherhood with an occupation. Seven out of the eight articles of the law deal with the increased provisions for mother and child. With this law the Soviet state emphasises once again its principled position towards motherhood. Motherhood is not a private affair but a natural social function of women. From the first day of the existence of the Soviet state, Soviet legislation always emphasised the view that women have two primary tasks in the new society: to be active citizens of the state and at the same time not to neglect motherhood. But so that women can fulfill their occupation and citizen’s duty without disadvantage to motherhood, the state must make sure that motherhood is made easier in all possible ways, on the one hand by a broad network of social institutions for children‘s welfare (nurseries, kindergartens, children‘s colonies, homes for mothers, etc.), on the other hand by state material support for the mother, and finally by detailed legislation that governs the question of child support. The new law of June 17 is really a logical extension of this principle.

With this law the Soviet government takes on a huge material obligation in its budget, in order to accomplish the expansion of the institutions for the well-being of mothers and children and make accommodations for women, so that they can fulfill their two tasks without disadvantage to the one by the other.

But what does article 1) of the law mean, which abolishes the former law for the permissibility of abortions and forbids abortions?

The law about the permissibility of abortions was approved in 1920 in the Soviet Union under the pressure of specific unfavourable conditions that prevailed in the country at that time. The Civil War was not yet over. Severe economic living conditions prevailed and the main task for the country fighting for its freedom consisted in using all forces for the building of a new social order. Women as active citizens of the state had to take part, even if their maternal duties were thus left behind.

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>>2367353
Who gives a shit about Malthusianism? Anarchists were Malthusians 120 years ago.

>>2367366
yeah anarchists are reactionaries, we know

>>2367330
fuck you

>>2367251
NKVD having to spend a lot of resources to find starving families in remote villages is not the proof of commonplace famines that you want, buddy

>>2367294
Kollontai was probably unawares of the shift in material conditions in USSR.
https://ondatra.livejournal.com/336718.html
Bakovsky Factory of the Rubber Products started operating in 1936. Yep, it produced condoms, and it was Soviets' first. Spermicide was also being advertised as the correct way of preventing unwanted pregnancies



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Yes I know worker coops aren't socialism because they still have markets and commodity production but could they at least break the power of the bourgeoisie since there would be no more capitalists at most there would be proletarians and petit bourgeoises

Given this isn't turning 100% of for profit businesses in a country into worker coops a good intermediate goal since it starves the bourgeoisie of their profits which they use to rule with politics?
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>>2359487
Credit unions combined with worker cooperatives are a powerful combination. Unfortunately there is no politician aside from Richard Wolff who ran on this idea. The biggest problem is the lack of politicization of worker coops and credit unions and the reason kind of makes sense if you understand the historical fighters for coops and people’s banks like Proudhon, who didn’t want to rock the boat of their political system and decided to not participate and their hopes was that cooperatives would just magically take over the whole nation. Marx knew how stupid this shit was, the only way to change shit is to participate in the political system to put pressure and politicize the very act of cooperatives and credit unions are strictly a working class political policies aiming for nationalization, not nationalization in the legal sense but making cooperatives necessary for any business entering the economic world. A law for example that is used that requires any business looking to get a low interest loan only allowing cooperatives to get low or zero interest loans and private businesses being forced to pay premiums. Imagine for example a person looking to start a private business and the only way they can get a loan is by paying a 20 percent premium on interest, no and sometimes higher. In opposition would be cooperatives getting 1 or 2 or 3 percent interest on loans in their new business. This preferential treatment would have a massive politicizing effect on cooperatives and credit unions making them the political alternative to private business and private banks.

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>>2362494
> who didn’t want to rock the boat of their political system
Damn libs been betraying the revolution since the begining… now i see why Trotsky was right about Machkno

>>2355512
I sort of see worker co-operatives as a means of defending against HR/the managerial strata which emerges from finance capital, unemployment and labor arbitrage/the buying and selling of labor. In some ways I think worker co-operatives are better than trade unions which only really defend against productive capital and not the banks.

>>2362804
Anyhow I think there ought to be a better way of defending against the managerial strata and getting shitcanned than worker co-operatives. IMO labor unions don't really address the development of a managerial strata or the reserve pool of labor. I think there ought to be an organized way to fight against labor arbitrage directly. Not talking about labor monopsony (borders/colonies mostly IMO) which is usually what comes up when people talk about labor arbitrage.

>>2362804
good point



 

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>>2366729
They've been beefing with the Chinese for far longer and harder than they have beefed with the U$A

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are there no jobs in Algeria?
if not, did they want independence or not?
burning hatred for France but they insist on living there lmao

>>2366782
And all that when a few thousand would already be enough - namely, the american ruling class.



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Hoxha on Che and 'Castroism'
Specially for you, Debate Addicts. Type away.

For instance, Che Guevara was killed. Such a thing is liable to happen, because a revolutionary may get killed. Che Guevara, however, was a victim of his own non-Marxist-Leninist views.

Who was Che Guevara? When we speak of Che Guevara, we also mean somebody else who poses as a Marxist, in comparison to whom, in our opinion, Che Guevara was a man of fewer words. He was a rebel, a revolutionary, but not a Marxist-Leninist as they try to present him. I may be mistaken—you Latin-Americans are better acquainted with Che Guevara, but I think that he was a leftist fighter. His is a bourgeois and petty-bourgeois leftism, combined with some ideas that were progressive, but also anarchist which, in the final analysis, lead to adventurism.

The views of Che Guevara and anyone else who poses as a Marxist and claims "paternity" of these ideas have never been or had anything to do with Marxism-Leninism. Che Guevara also had some "exclairicies" in his adoption of certain Marxist-Leninist principles, but they still did not become a full philosophical world-outlook which could impel him to genuinely revolutionary actions.

We cannot say that Che Guevara and his comrades were cowards. No, by no means! On the contrary, they were brave people. There are also bourgeois who are brave men. But the only truly great heroes and really brave proletarian revolutionaries are those who proceed from the Marxist-Leninist philosophical principles and put all their physical and mental energies at the service of the world proletariat for the liberation of the peoples from the yolk of the imperialists, feudal lords and others.

We have defended the Cuban revolution because it was against US imperialism. As Marxist-Leninists let us study it a bit and the ideas which guided it in this struggle. The Cuban revolution did not begin on the basis of Marxism-Leninism and was not carried out on the basis of the laws of the proletarian revolution of a Marxist-Leninist party. After the liberation of the country, Castro did not set out on the Marxist-Leninist course, either, but on the contrary, continued on the course of his liberal ideas. It is a fact, which nobody can deny, that the participants in this revolution took up arms and went to the mountains, but it is an undeniable fact also that they did not fight as Marxist-Leninists. TPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2366397
What is not clear to you

>>2366191
He is correct. Castro and Che Guevara weren't communists.

Stalin was an old man who feared that the sky will fall. Xoxha was an old man who despaired at the revisionists taking over, powerlessness of Albania in the face of the great powers doing whatever they want, and doubled down on dogmatism. We all experienced this kind of despair in the 90s, though

guerrilla warfare today is all pure larp and nobody takes bunkers seriously

>>2366611
but Kendrick vs Drake and Diddy are taken very seriously.
So what?

>>2366637
thats your best response?



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