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The ongoing student, and non-student protests (and also those of Belgium, Italy, and Albania to a weaker extent) are promising signs of revolution, BUT if this is only the start it is the end.

Occuptions, student strikes, riotting, and arson don't overthrow the state only dual power (ex establishing parallel political Institutions) will make these amount to anything beyond a histotical footnote. The only form of dual power that exists is theoractial, and I will give credit to the students attempting to create assembies and trade unions also attempting so, but unless THEY ACTUALLY DO IT the protests will be a fail.

And if these fail the state will just have more of a justifcation to further its surveillance state and prevent anymore uprisings, this is why the USA looks pathetic right now its not because people aren't mad its because the bourgesis state kidnaps anyone who attempts them and aids reformist liberals.

TLDR no organization dual power = these protests will die out and stregthen the bourgesis state in the long-term.
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>>2937972
You’re a djinn and I banish you, OUT, YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE

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>>2937979
I think you might be in love with me. <3

>>2937982
OUT DEVIL, I REBUKE YOU

>>2937886
don't count your eggs or something

Bumping this because its becoming more and more true



 

O que será do Brasil governado por Zognaro?

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Feels like there's a lot less people talking about communism these days. There's fewer people sharing communist memes on social media, and fewer people discussing their favorite communist countries and movements. And /leftypol/ is definitely slower than its peak in the late 2010s.

Is there anything we can do to revive interest in communism, or is the real movement dead forever?
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I'm not up to speed with communism fandom, could a get lore breakdown video?

>>2937692
>There's fewer people sharing communist memes on social media, and fewer people discussing their favorite communist countries and movements.

That's because Social Media has been cracking down on communist ideas and shadowbanning them. These social media sites are owned by capitalist techbros. Of course they don't want communists to post on their sights.

Social Media has no correlation with reality. Get off the internet and touch grass.

>>2939598
Here is the first episode.

>>2939301
>supported them against the axis powers
as if they had a choice when Barbarossa happened and they started going on an extermination campaign east

>>2939634
Marx anime? I wonder if they made a Stirner episode, that would be fun.



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I have been a communist since I was 9 or 10. I have read Engel's, Marx, Lenin, Mao, etcetera…
>when will you wake up?
My question is this how do we as Marxists deal with the dialectical materialism of race? Asians and Jews are 100IQ+, whites are 100IQ, Latinos are 90IQ, Indians are 75IQ, and blacks are 65IQ. This shows up in disparate cultural and societal structures. How do you think we can build a communist society when people at 90 autism score or lower cannot understand counterfactuals i.e. hypothetical situations?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2939691
eyecue tests are not true tests of intelligence, they just test western style education. if we determine intelligence by bushcraft knowledge im sure whites will be on the bottom and africans will be geniuses

>Idealist materialism

>>2939691
ok????

Mods, do you think an IP ban works?

>>2939695
Your critique commits vulgar materialism by conflating the capitalist superstructure with universal species-being. "Western education" is merely the ideological apparatus of a specific historical mode of production, whereas autism score tests index fluid intelligence, the domain-general cognitive architecture inherent to the human brain. The "bushcraft" argument is crude environmental determinism that confuses the localized acquisition of use-values with raw cognitive capacity. The positive manifold scientifically proves that the means of mental production are universal; g is an objective feature of human biology, not a bourgeois construct.
>>2939703
The correct dialectical materialist formulation is this: The biological hardware (g-factor) is the material basis, but cognitive development is historically mediated by social praxis. To deny the biological substrate is idealist utopianism; to deny the social mediation is mechanical vulgarity. autism score tests measure the dialectical friction between the two.

>>2939723
>autism score tests measure the dialectical friction between the two.
does it though. none of the preceding text justifies that conclusion, even if all of it was correct



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So say a Marxist-Leninist economy has all of the stuff important to the state nationalized and operating under scientific planning, it tries to give the basic needs of life like employment and housing to everyone as possible, but there's additionally a private sector for commodity circulation because trying to micromanage every small business to the smallest detail is silly in general. The private sector is heavily regulated to prevent them from subverting the rest of society, and also taxed to help pay for the rest of society.

So what exactly is bad about this generally speaking? Especially on a neoliberal Earth where the international elite, outside of china, can flee and go anywhere and has no accountability? The strategy of dengist economics has produced the same results that people like Mao and Stalin wanted out of their countries like mass industrialization, electrification, and prosperity but at the same time holding their own societal elites accountable.
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>>2910119
>Naturally, whenever anything is successful, MLs claim that is what they believed in all along.
Giga based. Imagine being anything but ML lol

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>>>2910119
>>Naturally, whenever anything is successful, MLs claim that is what they believed in all along.
>Giga based. Imagine being anything but ML lol

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>>2939467
That's right

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>>2878242
>pic
finally, a giga who understands what historical progress actually means

>>2939425
>can't even claim the whole image
oh nononono lasaillekeks… THIS is your giga???



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B.C. is lost to the far-right for the first time in a century.

>>2939194
No problem

>>2939194
The right wing coalition of Racists, misogynistic, petite bourgeoise and Indians win the Tories a majority. David Eby fumbled this shit hard, only comfort one can take is the tory coalition is shitty neolinbs to right wing populist that hate each other, but right wingers are cattle so i think they'll get back in line when government time comes and they do what they were elected on.

Tax cuts for the rich, cuts to a struggling healthcare system and culture war bullshit. What a hell hole. Oh well, at least the greens arent half bad. Time to join the communist party

>Christian Nationalism in Canada

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>>2939194
social credit ran bc until the 90s this shit ain't new



 

Explain this you Eurocentric, racist Marxists with your necessary linear stages of development. Did the Inca already have their capitalist stage before they achieved socialism or not?
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>>2909271
>society on a different continent centralized different hereditary tribute structures
>socialism
OHHH I HATE BLOOD AND SOIL SO MUCH

>>2909417
Beria regularly sacrificed young girls to Perun, Khrushchev put a stop to this and the USSR immediately declined.

>>2909271
Centrally planned palace economy =/= Socialism

>>2939334
>bumping 2 month old thread that should have been deleted to get in le epic correction
You are terminally retarded. Please fuck off and never come back.

>>2909305
why do you instantly take the tone of a 4pol troll the second you are asked a question



 

>Why bother with building a mass working-class movement? Just have a small group stage a coup against the government lmao

How do you respond to this without sounding mad?
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>>2934494
Zero actual empirical exemple of it outside of tocqueville own book on the revolution btw, no idea why the idea is even entertained

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>>2934215
Obviously a coup is not sufficient to STAY in power, but it is a path to secure it in the first place. From there it's a matter of managing the inevitable power struggle.

Besides, Gaddafi was Obama'd out of power so I don't think he's a good example. Almost any regime could theoretically be overthrown by a hostile foreign power.

>>2934468
Presumably a militant group with support from handful of key insiders in the ruling government/military.
Most coup d'etat aren't accompanied by a large popular movement, it just requires the current government to be unpopular enough for people not to give a shit, which is what I think >>2934475 was talking about.

Why take political power when you can be a charismatic cult leader and impregnate your followers.

>>2934336
>a single guy betrays you
>socialism ends in a day
i wonder if involving 7,000,000 people to the same extent as said guy might have shifted the balance of power

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>>2934336
well yeah, anon didn't deny CIA coups. that's why it has to be international working class movement. kind of built into both the question and answer, no?



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I have seen this retardation spammed all over the place because of austrian economic loons however it always did feel so retarded.

I think this is the most condensed example of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3OH4QO5JY

Basically it becomes more and more retarded until you end up
>What about captain america?
>And captain america not fighting Thanos in my MCU?!
>communism and money can not exist!

That was always a incredibly retarded argument and I do not understand how the viewers of this trash are not dying of cringe.

Did people make debunking of this """"logic"""" because the video is pure insanity. The truth is that there is no such thing as central planning.
>Herp derp how do we produce things? How many of them?!
How does the factory do it now?
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>>2933917
Is it strange I have no idea what is the thesis you are proposing?

>>2934439
>This is why centralized planned economy didn't allow this
It existed in varying degrees in AES countries and moving away from custom orders was a pain in the ass for socialist economy. China proved the Yugoslavian model was generally correct.

>>2934550
>Books published by pro-capitalists show that capitalism is pro.
Nice bait leftychud.

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>capitalism is when market
>communism is when no market
I'm convinced ancaps don't actually know what capitalism is. like you will unironically hear "that wasn't real capitalism" from ancaps all the time
>>2933920
>muh inefficiency
>state-capitalism
>stagnation!
pick up a book, retard

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>>2933917
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>2933917
><Epic debunking of the army everyone!
><How can 1 guy decide what position of every finger ever soldier must have?!
><Ha no one can do that!
><IMPOSSIBLE! GENERALS DEBUNKED!
this but unironically

>>2934439
>The ECP and information problem aren't about how to know what to produce, it's how to allocate it and how to make this allocation efficient.
You must understand that you have schizophrenia. Literally nothing you have written makes any sense whatsoever it is literally incoherent babbling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0



 

Speech at the Ceremony Marking the 105th Anniversary of the Founding of the Communist Party of China

XI JINPING

Comrades and friends,

Today, we gather to celebrate the 105th anniversary of the founding of the Communist Party of China. We meet to reflect on the glorious journey our Party has traveled, to look ahead to the bright prospects for the cause of our Party and our people, and to rally all Party members and the Chinese people to march with confidence and courage toward the goal of building a great modern socialist country and realizing the rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.

First, on behalf of our Party’s Central Committee, I would like to extend greetings to all members of our Party on this occasion. I also wish to warmly congratulate the recipients of the July 1 Medal, as well as the outstanding Party members, exemplary Party affairs workers, and advanced primary-level Party organizations from across the country being honored here today.

Comrades and friends,

One hundred and five years ago, out of the great awakening of the Chinese people and the Chinese nation and the close integration of Marxism-Leninism with the Chinese workers’ movement, the Communist Party of China was born. From that moment on, the Chinese people and the Chinese nation had in the Party a truly dependable anchor. The long-enfeebled and impoverished China, embattled by internal turmoil and foreign aggression, thus embarked on a historic and earthshaking transformation.

Over the past 105 years, our Party has remained true to its original aspiration and founding mission: to seek happiness for the Chinese people and rejuvenation for the Chinese nation. With a deep insight into the prevailing trends of global development and an accurate grasp of the principal challenges facing Chinese society in each historical period, it has united and led the Chinese people in pursuing tireless endeavor. Together, we have achieved great accomplishments in the new-democratic revolution; in socialist revolution and construction; in reform, opening up, and socialist modernization; and in socialism with Chinese characteristics in the new era—writing the most magnificent chapter in the millennia-long history of the Chinese nation.
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Comrades and friends,

A strong country must have a strong military, as only then can it guarantee the security of the nation. On the journey ahead, we must fully implement the Party’s thinking on strengthening the military in the new era and our military strategy for this era. We must uphold the Party’s absolute leadership over the people’s armed forces and firmly follow the Chinese path of military development. We will take comprehensive measures to enhance the political loyalty of the armed forces, to strengthen them through reform, scientific and technological advances, and the training of competent personnel, and to run them in accordance with the law. We will promote high-quality modernization of national defense and the armed forces, meet the centenary goals of the People’s Liberation Army as planned, and move faster to build our people’s armed forces into a world-class military, so that they can resolutely defend our national sovereignty, security, and development interests and make greater contributions to world peace and development.

Lasting prosperity and stability in Hong Kong and Macao are integral to the rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. On the journey ahead, we will fully, faithfully, and resolutely implement the One Country, Two Systems policy, under which the people of Hong Kong administer Hong Kong and the people of Macao administer Macao, both with a high degree of autonomy. We will see that Hong Kong and Macao are administered by patriots, ensure that both regions are more effectively governed in accordance with the law, and promote their economic and social development. We will support Hong Kong and Macao in better integrating into and contributing to our country’s overall development.

Resolving the Taiwan question and achieving China’s complete reunification is, for our Party, a historic mission and an unshakable commitment. It is also a shared aspiration of all the sons and daughters of the Chinese nation. We will fully implement the Party’s overall policy for the new era on resolving the Taiwan question, and uphold the one-China principle and the 1992 Consensus. Standing together closely with our Taiwan compatriots, we will promote exchanges, cooperation, and integrated development across the Taiwan Strait. We will resolutely fight against separatist forces aimed at “Taiwan independence” and oppose external interference. With firm resolve, we will continue advancing the great endeavor of national reunificPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

And now china has betrayed everything the chinese revolution stood for

Long live social democracy

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