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New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.
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>>2558403
the video proves there is something towards the ideas of the "Stalin school of falsifaction" not that trotsky was right about everything or good in any way. He made that clear in the video

>>2558390
He's not a communist he's just autistic.

>>2558411
the closest person to him actively glazing is Yakov Sverdlov and even then he remained netural


>>2558411
yeah i rewatched that one and he says that towards the end, but you gotta admit that's one clickbaity thumbnail



 

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>>2554820
I guess that explains why bukele is running a concentration camp.

>>2554110
Yeah of course they want us to believe being aggressive to fascists is bad

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Wömen

Provocative take: NSN's Sydney photo-op going ahead was a good thing.
>cops publicly exposed as incompetent or compromised
>impatiently targeting Jews (strategic L)
>one has already been fired from an IT job, another 'under investigation' (less funding for the movement)
Obviously their majority aren't doing mask-off ops, especially those with higher-paying or sensitive government-contracted jobs. But attrition on their foot soldiers is real.

also laughing at one of them for this absolute statement:
>“You people want us unemployed, kicked out the street, want our family broken up and my newborn to starve,” he said. “All because I disagree with you politically. What you try to do to us personally is far worse than any of our general political ideology.”
SMH publishing this quote because they know no-one will take it seriously.

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https://victoriansocialists.org.au/news/electoral-registration-update
This is the saltiest thing I've read in a while.

>we cant register our favourite party name. can you, uh, stop existing please? just fold into us.

It's perfectly fine to ask and explain, but the writing style of the statement is just petty.



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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there's like three-four western academics' books in the sources and for further reading there's this gem… i find this all very unbelievable

>>2557713
I remember Chomsky claimed that he believed that 2 million died during the whole period going back to the Cambodian civil war. Around 800,000 could be blamed on American shenanigans and 1.2 million on the Khmer rouge. That's just how I remember what he said I think there's a video on YouTube where he states his belief on these matters.

>>2557713
millions? it's sort of hard to prove that, the best explanation is that they did at least murder a significant number, probably in the hundreds of thousands (say, 300-500k) whereas the rest were what we'd call deaths by reckless negligence, that is to say, while they didn't directly kill them, they may as well have as they were caused directly by the khmer rouge's policy, likewise there's the aforementioned US bombing beforehand which also contributed to these deaths
>>2557715
it's not that hard to believe, there's enough witness testimony and enough overall evidence to at least make it a reasonable enough thing to say

Victims of leftism

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>>2557716
this reads like pretentious dystopian fiction wholly inspired by readings of postmodernist philosophy, of the french post-structuralist kind
>>2557773
very reasonable take tbh. you also have to keep in mind the scale of the US carpet bombing during the civil war. they bombed the whole mainland southeast asia during that time with laos and kampuchea getting the absolute worst of it because of the ho chi minh + sihanouk trails (first covers laos and cambodia, second is through cambodia only, both lead to "south" vietnam aka kampuchea krom)

<https://data.opendevelopmentcambodia.net/en/dataset/us-bombing-in-cambodia-1965-1975-



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Hello, new user here so please excuse my naivety or possible ignorance.

As I've spent the past few months trying to research history and further define my own political identity, I've fallen down a rabbit-hole from mainstream social media platforms to smaller imageboards (such as this one, which has particularly interested me!).

I was hoping to hear some of your own conclusions as to why it's so much more common to see people fall for right-wing pipelines and propaganda, and whether or not it makes them stupid or just gullible. I started to research niche right-wing online communities (which I will avoid mentioning by name) and have noticed their significant influence despite their small size, and their sheer output of content.

My theory is that right-wing politics provide short, simple answers to complicated issues. Because of that, it's easy to build a community that produces content which mocks people who provide answers that can't be explained in a single paragraph. Also the fact that this content is played off as simply a joke or absurdist humor rather than legitimate propaganda.

Again, sorry if this sounds dumb or has an obvious answer!
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>>2558091
racism and xenophobia are not the same
go to North Sentinel and see how the locals greet you

>>2558058
It's not true of people in general, it's basically correlated with intelligence and with personality. Intelligence is improving over time and personality can be shaped culturally, so the picture is optimistic in the medium / long term.

It's a bad default but one that in the process of being fixed, even under capitalism.

I mean part of it is that the Right Wing tries to lovebomb people into their side while the Left tries to exclude people from theirs.

Like if you roll your eyes at, I dunno, someone saying “video games appeal to the male fantasy” then right wingers will go out of their way online to spread their propaganda—“Yeah they all hate men, THEY are trying to take your vidya away!” They see a little hint that you share an enemy and they try to grow that.

The Left? One mistake or difference of opinion and you’re out. You show the slightest disagreement and you’ll have people nagging you or coming up with new ways to call you a terrible person. Even in cases where it looks like you might have some broad agreement with a left wing point that’ll be whittled down into nothing by other left wingers.

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no more jobs or inflation reports

>>2558126
They are only so defensive now because they got sick and one or two of them went to the outside world got sick and died too
Not because they are inherently xenophobic



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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Persistence in socialism
Socialist movements around the world, as well as individuals or circles concerned with this question, experienced the most intense diversity of views and debates on socialism in the nineteenth century. The nineteenth century is marked as the century in which the main theoretical framework of socialism began to be constructed.

Those who study socialism generally converge on one common point: they take the “Enlightenment Period,” when the concept of socialism began to develop theoretically, as their reference. At that time, the viewpoints that prioritized social problems were accepted as the main starting point. In this regard, the views of Jacques Rousseau hold an important place. It is also necessary to mention that Pierre Leroux, assumed to be the first to use the concept of socialism at the beginning of the nineteenth century, as well as Marie Roch Louis and Robert Owen, were among the followers of Henri de Saint Simon (1760–1825).

The Industrial Revolution and the rise of capitalist modernity intensified contradictions and conflicts, while thinkers of the time systematized their views on socialism and engaged in heated debates among themselves. As a result, a turning point emerged in the development of socialist thought, a new era, so to speak. Saint Simon, Robert Owen, and Charles Fourier began to be considered “Utopians” in this phase and were defined as “Utopian Socialists.” François-Noel Babeuf (1760–1797), who took a revolutionary stance against the Directory period during the 1789 French Revolution, was also included among those in this line. This did not stop there: those who developed views on socialism sought to systematize and conceptualize their ideas. Within this scope, those who embraced or sympathized with these views began to be referred to as followers. Intensifying social problems, class contradictions, and conflicts further expanded and spread these ideas. The fact that numerous ideas were defended in the name of socialism in the nineteenth century is itself evidence of this.

Proudhonian, Bakuninian, Blanquist, Lassallean, Bernsteinian, and Marxist interpretations and evaluations of socialism emerged and developed within such a historical process. By its nature, intense and relentless ideological struggle also occurred among these theoreticians and those who defended them. Arguments were developed and employed to refute one another’s ideas. Countless aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Rumors that the US will establish a military base in Damascus has been denied by the STG.

>>2552637 (samefag)
Denied by US officials now.

Centrifugal & Centripetal Forces

>I. Forces


Broadly, the centripetal-centrifugal framework is about scale. Much in our lives cannot be determined by us as individuals — we inadvertently must coordinate with others (or otherwise participate in coordination as consumers, followers, etc).2 Generally, such coordination is often done through recursive hierarchies.3 I refer to forces that increase the size of this coordinating body as centripetal, in that they are pushing for a centralization of coordination through a single larger hierarchy. An alternative terminology could refer to a ‘scaling up’ of coordination.

On the other hand, there are forces running counter to this — which render it more difficult to coordinate at large scales.4 These forces are centrifugal, as they disperse coordination (and therefore power) away from the center on to new smaller hierarchies on the periphery, or even on to individuals. These forces reduce the scale of coordination.

An important claim in the previous essay (and foundational to the rest of the argument) is that the balance between centrifugal and centripetal forces has tipped strongly towards the former. I didn’t expand on this greatly, but this is referring to several trends. The first pertain to local factors, such as the internal pathologies of the Islamic Republic’s ruling clique and the external war being waged against it by foreign powers. But more importantly, it is referring to the general crisis in coordination throughout the world.

This is a somewhat slippery issue to define, but in broad strokes it is the decline in the ability of those without power to coordinate in order to advance their collective interests. While economic inequality has deepened in the last few decades, those on the lower levels of the economic and power hierarchy have become less able to impose their collective will.5

Climate change is probably the easiest prism for understanding this issue. On one side, a growing proportion of humanity has an immediate short-term interest in reducing carbon emissions, while everyone has a long-term interest in doing so. On the other side, a proportion of the capitalist class (already a minority) has a short-term interest in maintaining business-as-usual, or at least not being a first-mover in reducing their own emissions. This is actually a staggeringly uneven balance of forces. NonethelesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Not Syria, Turkey peace process stuff but can someone please explain me what he meant by this? I was lost before even the Mandani stuff.
We are socialists, alhamdulillah
<Ege Cansen
The intellectual property of this striking title belongs to Yunus Emre Erdölen, one of the writers of "Freedom ." I congratulate him. Before continuing, as is our custom, I will attempt to delve into the roots of some words. Words are the building blocks of understanding, thinking, and generating ideas. Correct ideas are constructed with the right words. The original meaning of words changes over time. More accurately, people ascribe meanings to them that suit their convenience. Because humans are economic. One form of economic behavior is not taking responsibility for things you cannot do. "Elhamdulillah " does not mean "Thank God," but "I praise God ." This translation was made by the literary scholar Hamdullah Suphi (1885-1966). He took the Turkish equivalent of the Arabic name "Hamdullah" (Turkish: Tanrıöver) as his surname. Hamt(d) is derived from the root "h, m, d." It means praise or exaltation. Muhammad (Mehmet), Ahmed, Mahmut, and so on, all come from this root. Gratitude does not come from the same root. The English equivalent of "Elhamdulillah " is "Praise (the) God ." Hallelujah also has the same meaning. The prophets told their believers, "Do not deify yourself, anyone, or me by praising or boasting, but praise Almighty God ." They added, "The rules of life (the sharia) I have communicated are not my commandments, but God's." Thus, they did not assume the responsibility of rewarding those who adhere to the rules they communicated and punishing those who do not. This attitude is rational, that is, economic. In another article, I will discuss the economic aspects of the expressions "salamun aleykum" and "aleykum selam."

He is a revolutionist

Zohran Mamdani, a 34-year-old Ugandan-born Indian Shia Muslim, has been elected mayor of New York City as the Democratic Party's candidate. Mamdani met his secular Muslim wife on an online dating site and married her. He describes himself as a socialist who supports the rights of minorities, women, and gays. In a city with a large Jewish population like New York, he has openly supported Palestinians. Despite the widespread fear of Islam and socialism (read: communism) among white Americans, he has made neithPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Today is November 12th!
You know what that means!
HAPPY LIU SHAOQI DEATH DAY!!

>>2558051

your graph literally shows that its still more expensive than it was before

>>2558051
>line go down
ITS FUCKING OVER

>>2558169
>OVER
lmao buy the dip!

>>2557776
trucculent



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>but muh marx

Apple just launched a new revolutionary product that completely changes how you can use your phone. Will bernd get the $149.95 version, or the $229.95 pro version that comes with a long strap? It's even compatible with icky green bubble androids.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/11/introducing-iphone-pocket-a-beautiful-way-to-wear-and-carry-iphone/
>ISSEY MIYAKE and Apple today unveiled iPhone Pocket. Inspired by the concept of “a piece of cloth,” its singular 3D-knitted construction is designed to fit any iPhone as well as all pocketable items.
>Born from the idea of creating an additional pocket, its understated design fully encloses iPhone, expanding to fit more of a user’s everyday items. When stretched, the open textile subtly reveals its contents and allows users to peek at their iPhone display. iPhone Pocket can be worn in a variety of ways — handheld, tied onto bags, or worn directly on the body.
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>>2557751
classic

>>2557751
you are missing the point, they are both scat piggies who enjoy degradation

Finally. Something to show off how cool child and slave labour is in the third world

>>2557384
>doesn't come in Red
fucking liberal shit

Moved to >>>/tech/31676.



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2543097
>i hope the ethos of xenia will win out and we may all be hospitable to one another, but things are forced to be different in a competitive world.
in the pierce brosnan movie goldeneye we see a female soviet villain xenia onatop. she is called onatop because she likes to be onatop

>>2554509
Because the public knows that everyone is bullshiting about being anti-immigration. The public has been voting in politicians who claim to be against immigration but when those come into power, they either do nothing or even increase it. It's to create a learned helplessness in the population. So an epic anti-immigration leftist is not going to make waves in this situation.

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>>2530954
>The focus should be on the quality of immigration with people coming to work study and build a life not just those chasing welfare gibs.
I'm just a burger, so I can't really say about Europe, but no immigrants are saving up 10s of thousands of dollars to immigrate to the West, DROWNING in the Mediterranean SO THEY CAN GET CRUMBS FROM WELFARE. They're trying to get motherfucking rich. That's the most obviously bullshit right-wing argument I can think of.

I hear people complain about the high taxes and welfare state in Europe long before and outside of the current wave of immigration. If such a problem exists, that has more to do with the nature of your welfare state and not "the quality of immigration."

Jesus Christ, I google migrants Medditerranean, just to grab a picture. And apparently 42 just drowned today.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/42-migrants-presumed-dead-after-boat-capsizes-off-127446881

But they're doing all that just for the SWEET SWEET GIBS!

>>2558136
In many cases the families, villages, tribes etc in Africa and ME pitch to make a fund in order to send one person so they can earn, comparatively to their country and not much by european standards, a huge amount of money that they then send back. This is part of why you see young dudes in disproportion, and ironically they will often get less welfare than regular wage workers because they work all of the bullshit jobs of the gig economy that don't have the same protections if any.

>>2558186
>In many cases the families, villages, tribes etc in Africa and ME pitch to make a fund in order to send one person so they can earn, comparatively to their country and not much by european standards, a huge amount of money that they then send back
Yeah exactly. They need to at the very least pay back all those people who chipped in to fund their voyage. But the rightoids want you to believe that these people did all that so they can come sit on their ass collecting welfare checks. No, they're trying to work as much ass possible with the opportunity to make as much money as they can.



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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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unrelated to the war as its pre2023 but who the fuck starts an official tweet with age is just a number lmao

>>2557379
not doing well to dispel stereotypes there …

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>>2557937
you can just tell this person lives in the west

>>2558039
People who are diametrically opposed to his opinion with him also live in the west.



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How can you bd a leftist thsts agaisnt ai? Ai is the best thing that has happened to leftism since the great depression er. On the one hand its accelerationist on the other hand it actually makes workers democracy possible for the first time realistically.
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>>2557420
The average punitive-brained comrade will happily traumatize children if it's in the interest of punishment

hide AI threads
ignore AI posts
do not reply to AI posters

I love AI

TOTAL PETTY BOURGEOIS DEATH

>>2557374
Besides that you are lumping a lot of different technologies into "A.I" you just said that it isn't fundamentally unsustainable
If the energy comes from renewable (including nuclear) energy it isn't wasteful (if all the other areas of life alzó use green energy)

It can also be done without AI. Penisblast explained it in one of his videos before AI took off.



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