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How do you wake up every morning knowing you're Australian not immediately kill yourself?


>>2829498
Why is the only thing Australian leftists are capable of effectively doing at all attacking anyone who opposes the mass importation of cheap labour for capitalists?



 

The replies of thread >>2766805 have been so poor I intended to make a new thread, giving a historical overview of the last few decades of the communist movement.

>What is the difference between:

>Mao Zedong Thought [ML-MZT]
>Maoism-ThirdWorldism [M3W]
<Missing: >Classical Marxism-Leninism-Maoism [classical MLM]. Exemplified by Communist Party of the Philippines and Communist Party of India (Maoist) as key leaders and influences.
>Gonzalo Thought [aka "MLM-pM" and "Gonzaloism"]
>How interrelated are they?

Comrades. don't forget these tools:
<Historical materialism.
<General-Particular-General dialectical spiral in analysis.
<Never capitulate proletarian leadership to reactionary classes.
<Analyze the contradictory relationship of petty-bourgeois ideology to scientific socialism-communism throughout time, which always ends just yesterday.

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>>2790329
like as in occupy wall street?

>>2777121
Thanks for pointing it out.
He ended the perior unpopular as Boluarte in recent times but alive. Check video.
Only putting Mlm as THE communist movement seems to me the most reductive way to see history in the last decades. Specially since is another boat drowining in a sea of nothingness (writing this as the Cuban capitulate to the gringos for the X time in the decade and the chinese "sociailism with markets TM" is the only horse winning the race)

>>>/leftypol/2849563 related topic

yall just putting letters together at random

>>2850275
seems pretty deliberate to me

this is random:

daf;lisdj;fwilejfjslafnl;slghine[hoinowandfvins



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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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>>2849748
He's a hoxaite

>>2849610
That interview was something else, it was like talking to a lizard.

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>>2849606
Pretty easy to get big in "the business" when you dickride zionist democrats

only read first sentence, TRVE! tho



 

It's very unlikely but since Trump has vocally been calling for annexations and Canada is moving out of the American imperial orbit, is it really possible that a regime change war against Canada is possible?
The US is already funding Albertian separatists and the American bourgesisie want direct ownership over Canadian oil, plus couping carney with somebody else wouldn't be much hard.

Again I would like to support some revolutionary defeatism so i wouldn't mind
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If the US were to invade it would be the job of L
Albertian communists to destroy the oil reserves, after all thats what the Americans want


Bump

what do you guys think of this video?
He says the US would win in 3 days but because there's so many vets in Canada a Insurgency would be inevitable.
He also brings up that much of the US relies off of Canadian energy and sabotaging it by insurgents would be extremely easy.

I think canadians should agitate for war against america, to destablize global imperialism.
Perhaps if trump makes another comment, and then an american railway or something gets blown up by canadian terrorists, it would be quite the crisis



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Hello, this is a troll.

Our party cell's Perpetual Purpose Trust is currently deliberating on whether to exit our traditional Boglehead 70-30 Equity-Bond allocation for holding funds, a la the Norwegian GPFG in favor of more aggressive investment strategies like actively stock picking or even launching financial warfare on BTC and the S&P 500.

As we are ML Mao Zedong Thought adherents, we would like to conduct a Mass Line Operation to see what Leftypol thinks we should do with the money. The current AUM is 34 million USD, although a considerable portion is Euro denominated, in JPY, and CNY.

What would you suggest we do with the money?

Pic related, pictures of us.



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WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition

>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.

>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.

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>>2849719
she kinda cute honestly

>>2851148
>towns being flooded with feral MUTUMBOs who don’t work, scam welfare sell drugs and rape every woman between 8 and 80s.
Based they should reap more of what was sown. Europeans are a cancer upon the biosphere.

Sure was a hot one today lads

>>2849953
>>2848660
Remember to high five them with a mace on your hand

>>2851297
Funny thing is that, if so-called “race science” was real, then they would be 100% justified in taking welfare, on the top of affirmative action and DEI being justified too. I mean, you never see these chuds ever question gender quotas despite biological differences between males and females being greater than that between ethnicities save for extreme examples like the Congolese pygmies.

Then again, the average chud is just a shitlib so don’t expect consistency from them.

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in europe, the ac is turned off when it gets too hot



 

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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Paul Robeson Edition


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>>2850632
ur gay like >>2850924

>>2850632
>it's just cartoons
so, was it the dingus nooticer?

>>2849831
Shut up, glowie.

will there be presidential elections? will the DSAmocrats win the presidency? will whomever comes in roll back the donroe doctrine?

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Anarchists and MLMS are always trashing everything. They're like leftist rain men. Ever notice most of them seem very on edge too, like in a constant state of anger, almost ready to hit somebody? You can hear how angry they get when talking about their beliefs, it's always like evangelists, or violent. They want leaders calling for heads and pikes, otherwise its "bourgeiose". The best part is, the pro violent anarchists are actually confused dictators, anarcho-pacifists are correct to tell insurrection anarchists that theyre just authortarian communists without knowing it, because a successful violent revolutions basic function is wielding authoritarian power against someone else. All revolution with violence is authorarian or leads to authoritarianism. Anarchists will vote on which rich dude or priest dies in a firing squad first, then line them up, and decide on their life or death, and say "yup, anti-authoritarian". ᴉuᴉlossnW calling them confused dictators was correct, ᴉuᴉlossnW was using his knowledge of true socialism to reach this conclusion.



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Today we had an especially hard day at work. We exchanged our labour power for le money for 12 hours straight.

Funny thing.

We have a new collegue, dude, trimmed eyebrows, eye-liner – JD Vance style –, total narcissist in my understanding, but most importantly buff as fuck. Like gym-buff, like i-have-the-small-pp buff.

In any case, dude after 9 hours was already exhausted, complaining constantly ("when are we finishing, ffs?"), and was visibly shaken by me being able to go on nonchalantly.

I ain't no buff guy, picrel is my /muskles/ taken after work, but constant prole-ing built up my endurance bigly. (Mind you, max I worked was 16 hours.)

I just wanna say that
1) if you prole, post your prole /muskles/ and tell us about your prole hours;
2) if u r gym parasite, plz leave;
3) is there any scientific papers comparing fake /muskles/ ("gym /muskles/") to prole /muskles/?

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>>2850872
100%. Hasan Piker and some of these other ISG retards were advocating for everyone to go to the gym for a while, really pushing it a few years ago.
All it does is reveal their class position, because nobody normal has the time, energy and money on this nonsense.

>>2850927
>people on here go on about nonsense like opening "leftist" gyms or MMA gyms as if that would lead to anything but modern blackshirts
Can you show me any examples that this has happened?
Somehow even more retarded than op.

>Now I have to see some uyghas fucking armpit
Imageboard users really are experts in irritating their users away in the most creative of ways

>>2850676
Fact is muscle =/= strenght =/= endurance =/= explosiveness. There are three different muscle fibers, one for very strong short exercise, on for low to moderate slow sustained exercise, and another one that is mixed. Every person has a different distribution of these so everyone's base abilities and proficiencies may very. There are two periods in life where you can actually gain more muscle tissue: at birth and during adolescence, when your body changes. After that you can only develop what tissues you already have through hypertrophy. There is also a kind of fluid that coats the muscle fibers that doesn't add strenght at all, which is what bodybuilders usually have, which is just more weight without strength nor endurance (which is why most bodybuilders may have some strength but are usually poor athletically). This doesnt mean a very buff guy isnt strong, it all depends on his physique and what kind of training he has done, because under that coating he can actually have a lot of strength and endurance but just be a buff fenotype guy.

Strenght actually has more to do with neural connections in your muscles than the muscle itself. The more you do a movement and the more demanding this is the more neurons are gonna be deployed to activate more muscle fibers, and nodes and "highways" of neurons develop this way. This structure remains for the whole time you repeat those kind of movements and once they go unused they slowly fade away, although never totally and they become very easily recovered after that (that's why you never forget how to ride a bike)

So, your coworker may be actually have a good physic and athletic body, but lack the neural connections necessary to perform the specific ranges of motion required for the job in question, or maybe has a lot of strength and lacks endurance, or maybe he is just psychologically weak.




 

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>>2850960
>Value does not exist as a natural thing; do you at least accept this? If so, then value can only appear as a fetishism of natural conditions
It serves here to point out that this argument is spectacularly ridiculous. You have latently accepted some of the passages from First Premises but cannot reduce the explanation to a more complex understanding than that that which appears in nature and hence is directly observable is empirically valid and that of social production entails a mystification (what you designate as a 'fetish').

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>>2850982
>the existence of socially necessary labour time
And labour is not "value"; it 'becomes' value in commodity exchange. This is why value does not 'appear' in communist societies as a material quality of the social product. You implicitly agree by now reframing the "form" of value as its content. The content is not the form, and you know that, and Marx wrote the same, here:
<little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them […] Content and form are changed […] a given amount of labor in one form is exchanged for an equal amount of labor in another form.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm
Here, "labour" is still accounted for, but no longer possesses the fetish character of commodity production (e.g. "value" as a form).
>value is not an empirical entity
But you are not discussing "value", you are discussing labour.
>value cannot be measured
"Value" doesn't actually exist, so of course not. Further, I take Marx's position that "value" can only be derived from price, speculatively:
<Consequently it was the analysis of the prices of commodities that alone led to the determination of the magnitude of value, and it was the common expression of all commodities in money that alone led to the establishment of their characters as values. 
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>value is again a social relation and a direct factor in the determination of exchange originating not in exchange itself
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>>2850986
And again you derive historical conditions of production with the mere appearance of the form of value from exchange, failing to explain why societies develop at all. Instead of an understanding of history and human society based on class relations we have instead an argument similar to those of the bourgeois economists.

I can't be bothered to continue contending this argument as you will just requote passages of capital abstracted from their context as you always do.

>>2850990
>you derive historical conditions of production with the mere appearance of the form of value from exchange
Right, these conditions are called "commodity production", which Marx gives attribution of in ancient times, though "not in the same predominating and characteristic manner as now-a-days". Social production in itself of course has no need for a "form of value" (e.g. the fetishism of commodities) since according to Marx, this only arises where social production is indirectly mediated by exchange.
>an understanding of history and human society based on class relations
Yes, that is the understanding which I have, since the ancient political science of people like Plato and Aristotle bases itself in class, the same way the political economy of Smith is based in class relations.
>argument
There is no "argument", I am simply teaching you about Marx.
It is a demonstration, not a dialectic.
>you will just requote passages of capital
Yes, reading is important for learning about things. 🙂👍

>>2851009
>political science
Made me laugh



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