/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2205582
How fitting that a thread about the stupidity of fascism attracts a fascist, one who is so deluded by his ivory tower education that he thinks fascism is when the government doesn’t cater to freaks

>>2204301
True. Will there ever be TTD?

>>2204301
Fascism is a modernized version of the spirit of King Jehu and his cult of the golden calves. A false light reactionary movement that God uses to eliminate one evil with another. Beast against Harlot, Harlot defeated, then the beast is destroyed. This is why these movements don't last long. They are tools that God uses and then throws away.

>>2205850
pic related

>>2205645
>>2205826
You seem indignant. I have fluctuating empathy but I worry I hurt your feelings.

>>2201624
Remember when the Soviets held a grudge against the Americans for their anti-Bolshevik intervention during the Russian Civil War? When they refused lend lease aid or American bombing campaigns against Germany? Me neither. Grudges are impractical in addition to being unscientific. The balance of forces is always in flux and an organization or movement that was on the side of reaction yesterday can be transformed into a progressive force tomorrow.

The Taliban are the free market strongest soldiers btw

>>2196876
>Heavy D and the Halfghans
wut lol. Story?

>>2196866
They US literally funded the Taliban against the Socialist government in the 90s you gigafaggot OP

>>2203987
Former anarchist here. Most Anarchists are introduced to the history of anarchism first before they get into the theory- it's often why they mistake The Zapatistas/ The DAANES as "actually existing anarchism"- despite the fact that there are theoretical and political differences (though in the case of the Zapatistas, indigenous anarchism was a massive influence).

If you're talking about beginners texts:
Enrico Malatesta "Anarchy".
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-anarchy

Means and ends by Zoe Baker
https://files.libcom.org/files/2024-07/Zoe%20Baker%20-%20Means%20and%20Ends%20V2.pdf

To understand the basis of more anarcho-communist thinkers- you can go into "Mutual Aid a factor in Evolution" or "The Conquest of Bread" by Peter Kropotkin. Both are free on the Anarchist library, but they, like a lot of other forms of socialist theory- are products of their time, though Kropotkin does a good job of slapping around Bakunin, lol.

And as much as I loathe Bakunin, I can't deny he made theoretical contributions, disagree with them as I may.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/colin-parker-basic-bakunin

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>>2205418
> it's often why they mistake The Zapatistas/ The DAANES as "actually existing anarchism"
Nobody does that, the working with and solidarity is out of shared values and projects, not out of a mistaken belief they are anarchist.

>>2204952
>f Anarchists ever lose hope that people can be convinced in their lifetime, if their conviction that transition away from central governance can be instantaneous falters, then they just surrender to being a SocDem as a lower hanging fruit
I used to be a self proffessed AnCom for years until this process happened to me but instead of returning to SocDem land I read some more of the marxist canon and am now just a plain ole communist nothing else. imho Anarchism(or at least all the big historically succesful anarchist movements and similar projects that get looped in like the Zapatistas and Rojava) is/was the socialism of the countryside and marxism the socialism of the city. Its much easier for semi-self sufficient agrarian communities that are already somewhat decentralized and cut off from the State to become anarchist than urbanized areas and I would contend the rural character of shit like the Free Territory,KPAM or even the Tambov rebellion are manifestations of this. My core issue with anarchism wrt to this point I just made was actually something I came to believe after reading the coming insurrection and not some ML polemic indistinguishable from anti-communist slander. They pointed out how (at least in first world countries like france) the differences between City and Country are basically gone. Applying this too my own life here in Burgerland while there are many small towns I've been in none of them have the same degree of local production, self-suffiency and autonomy and previous rural regions that went anarchist or at least something close to "libsoc". There more like skinny tendrils of highway and gas station coming out from the cities than the agrarian communities of the past.


tldr: I became disillusioned with anarchism partially because the material conditions that most anarchist projects form in are simply nonexistent around me.


>why anarchism is exclusively a first world phenomenon
would you consider Argentina and several other latin american countries first world by any chance

>>2203959
IMO the issue is the confusion between lumpenprole and petite-bourgeoisie politics. Lumpen are hesitant to engage with Marxism out of fear of the masses. The petite-bourgeoisie are hesitant because they have mixed interests. Egoism and Anarchism are completely different trends which shouldn't be confused.

- Anarchism is petite-bourgeois (peasants)
- Marxism is prole
- Egoism is lumpen

IMO in certain periphery parts of the world anarchist trends are progressive.

I still need to think through Egoism. Shit's complicated.

>>2204893
That’s the whole point of Daoism, grasping the ineffable, or “possessing the Dao”. I believe it’s intentionally written that way so the reader doesn’t get caught up in the language and is encouraged to think about the meaning themselves, since “the Dao that can be written is not the true Dao”.

>>2202956
>Wondering why the system of a priest-nobility which upheld a system of class and patriarchal domination as the highest sacred authority and generally preached a "might makes right" morality (or, as they put it, "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"), where the gods love the Romans, the state and the patrician nobility best, slaves die forgotten in shame and emperors ascend to godhood lost to the new religion that emphasized altruistic and empathetic virtues, equal salvation and equality before God and a very early, crude form of internationalism and separation of church and state.

There's a reason why the Roman state religion lost so badly to the Christians. The people who preach stoicism and "ancient wisdom" are going to give you an overly rosey picture of the Romans that glosses over what a brutal imperial, class and slave society they were and not mention some of their less savory worldviews. Christianity was progressive compared to the Roman pagan system. Anyone who gives you any kind of impression otherwise is telling you a story.

>>2204893
Daoism, particularly philosophical non-religious daoism, is probably the least incomprehensible eastern philosophy. Laozi is digestible all on his own, particualrly when you view it through the context of it being a reaction against Confucianism. I would say buddhism is the one that gets incomprehensible as you follow it's development, and imo gets bogged down with a lot of Buddha naval and trying to "be a Buddhist". Daoism doesn't care for you "being" a Daoist in contrast.

>>2205735
Ok redpill me on daoism real quick

>>2205720
>The people who preach stoicism and "ancient wisdom" are going to give you an overly rosey picture of the Romans that glosses over what a brutal imperial, class and slave society they were and not mention some of their less savory worldviews.
didn't all the y/a fiction crib from this? I thought the kids would be better now and the 'always fantasising about rome' thing was a forced-meme.
idk, i read Red Rising, it was okay ya fiction if terribly lib heroshit

>>2204120
Got fooled again award

>>2204151
Fooled by what exactly? If anything this indicates that they haven't subordinated themselves to HTS, which is a good thing no?

>>2204151
Didn't read again award.

MSD: The new cabinet is a continuation of exclusion policies
The Syrian Democratic Council (MSD) made a statement regarding the newly formed government in Syria, describing this development as a continuation of exclusionary policies.

In its statement, the MSD noted that the new government does not reflect Syria’s political and social diversity; on the contrary, it conveys the dominance of a specific faction. While some technocratic figures were included in the cabinet, the overall structure of the government was described as marked by a unilateral tendency.

The statement also pointed out the absence of women in the new administration, emphasizing that women—who have paid a heavy price during the years of war through displacement, loss, violence, and political exclusion—are once again being disregarded.

The statement emphasized that the current government representation is far from being solution-oriented, and that a government shaped by ideological bias cannot offer a healthy model for the country’s future. It stressed that a genuine government must be established on the basis of national partnership and include all influential forces on the ground.

The statement noted that the appointment process followed the process since the formation of the dialogue committee has shown that the Damascus government has not adhered to the principles of participation and diversity. It added that this reveals the absence of a genuine transitional process capable of enabling the reconstruction of the Syrian state based on sound political standards.

The statement included a call to all national forces in Syria to work together to build a new political approach based on democracy and the equal representation of all components of society, rather than exclusionary politics. It emphasized that Syria needs new solutions rooted in dialogue and reconciliation, instead of old methods that have only deepened the crisis and increased the suffering of its people.


People in North-East Syria visit cemeteries of martyrs on Eid al-Fitr
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>>2205382
Didn't know womens tracksuits were so big in Aleppo.

Are you going to post one if those youtube videos about how China is LICHERALLY GONNA CALL APPS IN TWO WEEKS GUISE too you fucking retard.

Also those "ghost cities" are unironically one of the best examples of Chinese economic planning in action. They were pretty empty for the first couple years but they exploded once people from rural areas had incentives to move in.

>>2205719
Ghost buildings also partially exist because Chinese people traditionally like to invest their money in land, not stocks. The issue is that many people who buy an apartment to rent out can’t find tenants because home ownership is very high and there isn’t enough demand. There are many apartment buildings that got constructed and ended up empty because people wanted to buy an apartment in it, but it turns out they aren’t going to live there themselves and can’t find tenants either.

>>2205725
fake news. spare housing is built by design of centrally planned Communist system to drive down rent and eliminate speculation

>china le bad
>2 more weeks and china will le collapse
Ok CIA.

>>2204067
>buh buh buh lease from the state!!!
ok. england literally does that exact same thing but worse. if you think china is bad wait until you hear about the entirety of the fucking west? lol

>>2205780
>I'm saying that the idea that all the bad stuff happening is because of some "evil book" is nonsense.
I didn't say that. It's their entire belief system. How is this so hard for you to grasp?

BASED?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQaJYlgKp_A

new thread >>2205841

>>2205488
>crying recucklican type many letter til wrists tired
chinese century here
burger century gone

>>2205364
>you forgot the part where I said
I didnt forget it, I find you silly to trust the words of the political enemy that shot him as an argument, especially someone who we know peddled absolute bullshit on stalin for political reasons. If you want to believe him thats your business, but its retarded and dont expect others to take you seriously.

>>2205372
>muh genocide
are you seriously gonna push the "poor germans were genocided in ww2" line? for real?
just fuck off moron, you could have had a sensible discussion about means and end in difficult situations with only bad choices but you chose to be an outrageous retard

>>2205087
>The USSR had to deal with an expanding Japan and a Fascist Germany aiming for them.
Probably shouldn't have moved the Koreans then since Korea had an active communist-dominated anti-Japanese guerilla movement, and the majority of PLA fighters in Manchuria were actually Koreans at one point. Maybe there was some justification for the Tatars or something but the deportation of Soviet Koreans was entirely nonsensical, especially since it happened before the war. If anything the Soviets could have been using their ethnic Korean population as a conduit to Kim Il Sung's resistance movement.

>>2205493
>especially someone who we know peddled absolute bullshit on stalin for political reasons. If you want to believe him thats your business, but its retarded and dont expect others to take you seriously
This coming from the guy defending a rapist and a man who committed ethnic deportations.

>are you seriously gonna push the "poor germans were genocided in ww2" line? for real? just fuck off moron, you could have had a sensible discussion about means and end in difficult situations with only bad choices but you chose to be an outrageous retard
You straight up said the majority of the population were collaborating with them. I proved that they not only weren't, but were knowingly fighting against said Germans. you're the one defending collective punishment and the actions of Beria, not me.
The only "moron" here is you.

>>2205498
Honestly why would they give a fuck about koreans?

>>2205513
>This coming from the guy defending a rapist
Saying this with no proof other than anti-communist sources and a political enemy who wanted to legitimize his power
>a man who committed ethnic deportations.
<Think about the Germans where the majority collaborated with the Nazis
<Think about the substantial number of Crimean Tatars who collaborated with the Nazis
<All during wartime on Soviet soil with a genocidal army
You are comparing the deportations to something like the Trail of Tears where the natives were sent into poverty, while this did not occur during the Soviet deportations
>You straight up said the majority of the population were collaborating with them.
The majority did. This was common across Eastern Europe not just the Soviet Union.
> I proved that they not only weren't
You didnt
>but were knowingly fighting against said Germans
not the majority. The Germans gave exceptional treatment to Germans wherever they were in the East and whether due to occupational pressures or genuinely believe in the Third Reich's Greater German Reich collaborated with the Germans until the army and themselves were kicked out. The collaborations is what got them kicked out in most Eastern European countries.
>you're the one defending collective punishment and the actions of Beria, not me.
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Union sues to block Trump from ending collective bargaining for many federal workers
The National Treasury Employees Union said in the lawsuit filed in Washington, D.C. federal court that Trump's executive order last week exempting more than a dozen agencies from collective bargaining obligations violates federal workers' labor rights and the U.S. Constitution and threatens the union's very existence.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/union-sues-block-trump-ending-collective-bargaining-many-federal-workers-2025-03-31/

Trump pardons a bunch of white-collar crooks
President Trump on Friday pardoned two startup founders convicted of investor fraud, and three crypto exchange co-founders who had plead guilty to violating anti-money laundering laws.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/31/trump-pardons-bitmex-crypto-fraud

US immigration officials look to expand social media data collection
It seeks to collect social media handles and the names of platforms, although not passwords. The policy seeks to require people to share their social media handles when applying for U.S. citizenship, green card, asylum and other immigration benefits. The proposal is open to feedback from the public until May 5.
https://apnews.com/article/social-media-immigration-applicants-handles-dhs-f67b480abebff7e451056be17572593d

Chaotic US Student-Loan Restart Drives Surging Delinquency Rate
The spike in delinquencies has no single culprit, experts say, pointing to the chaos of revving up what had essentially been a dormant loan payment system just as consumer strength shows signs of weakening and President Donald Trump pushes to dismantle the Department of Education.
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The new minimum wage is still far from being a real living wage
ON TUESDAY, April 1, more than three million workers get an increase in the statutory minimum wage which increases up to £1,400 for a 35-hour working week. In an ambiguously worded statement, the Chancellor said the increase marked “a significant step” in achieving the election manifesto pledge of a “genuine living wage for working people.” In real cash terms the 6.7 per cent rise will mean people on the top rate — for young people, apprentices etc the minimum wage is set at a lower level (ie below the wage needed to live on) — will get an extra 77 pence an hour to provide £12.21. There is an element of wilful obfuscation about the distinction between the national minimum wage and the living wage.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/new-minimum-wage-still-far-being-real-living-wage

Stopping Marine Le Pen From Running Is a Bad Idea
No one is above the law, and the court could not rule based on Le Pen’s personal popularity. But banning candidates from running for office due to financial crimes is highly dubious. The damaging effect on the democratic choice seems out of proportion to the crime in question, and (even coupled with a €2 million fine) is ineffective in punishing the party. As left-wing party France Insoumise pointed out in a statement, the Rassemblement National’s claim to be uniquely “clean” and stand against a corrupt establishment is in tatters. But that is for the electorate to judge. France Insoumise added that it had never sought to “use the courts as a means of defeating the Rassemblement National,” but instead relied on “popular mobilization of the French people.”
https://jacobin.com/2025/03/marine-le-pen-embezzlement-propaganda

What is Esencia and What Will Happen to Puerto Rico if This is Constructed?
Esencia is a massive $2 billion colonial development project aiming to seize over 2,000 acres of land, spanning three miles of beaches in Punta Melones, Cabo Rojo, by 2028. The United States has long justified its imperial presence in Puerto Rico under the guise of “progress” and “development.” With the complPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

>>2205133
o ok. its just weird that its like class struggle class struggle class struggle abolish the fed return to gold standard. i guess it doesn't say it outright but it seems to suggest that going back to commodity money would make things better, since it doesn't offer an alternative. people thinking about digital ledgers isnt a primary or really even secondary contradiction and thinking about stacks of gold coins instead wouldn't help

>>2203086
>that's how the economy literally worked (including worker councils inside the coops) under Marxism-Leninism
No it didn't, that wouldn't even be consistent with the principles of Marxism-Leninism. The only place something like that existed was Yugoslavia and that system sucked cock.

>>2205205
>o ok. its just weird that its like class struggle class struggle class struggle abolish the fed return to gold standard. i guess it doesn't say it outright
yeah i see why you got that vibe but like you said it doesn't really say that then it goes on to say

<but that's heavy, and smelly, and hard to keep track of, and can be slowly degraded in quality through erosion, or debased by a corrupt government. so we moved away from that in the name of increasing the speed of monetary circulation.

so it seems to acknowledge at least some of the historical-material conditions that caused us to move away from that.

>>2202848
Let's see what Marx says about how a socialist society should organize itself instead of lies from individualist petty bourgeoisies like you:

<Let us take, first of all, the words "proceeds of labor" in the sense of the product of labor; then the co-operative proceeds of labor are the total social product.

<From this must now be deducted: First, cover for replacement of the means of production used up. Second, additional portion for expansion of production. Third, reserve or insurance funds to provide against accidents, dislocations caused by natural calamities, etc.

<These deductions from the "undiminished" proceeds of labor are an economic necessity, and their magnitude is to be determined according to available means and forces, and partly by computation of probabilities, but they are in no way calculable by equity.

<There remains the other part of the total product, intended to serve as means of consumption.

<Before this is divided among the individuals, there has to be deducted again, from it: First, the general costs of administration not belonging to production. This part will, from the outset, be very considerably restricted in comparison with present-day society, and it diminishes in proportion as the new society develops. Second, that which is intended for the common satisfaction of needs, such as schools, health services, etc. From the outset, this part grows considerably in comparison with present-day society, and it grows in proportion as the new society develops. Third, funds for those unable to work, etc., in short, for what is included under so-called official poor relief today.

<Only now do we come to the "distribution" which the program, under Lassallean influence, alone has in view in its narrow fashion – namely, to that part of the means of consumption which is divided among the individual producers of the co-operative society.

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>>2202258
Read the first like 1 paragraph of capital. Jesus Christ.