/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2839478
Dengoids enjoyed the benefit of the doubt as long as China's rate of profit was high and they economy was growing, so they could pretend it was NEP in action. But now that the economy is slowing and RoP is declining, it's going to be increasingly harder to maintain this illusion.

Some examples include raising the retirement age for workers, making anti-automation laws, threatening other countries for violating Intellectual Property, threatening countries that want to adopt "Dengism" themselves because doing so would it make it harder for Chinese exports to enter, making public about intentions to increase consumption share of GDP (which results in declining growth), revising down GDP growth expectations, providing support for real estate market, increasing regressive taxes and tightening tax compliance on working class etc

>>2839477
>If a real communist revolution happened anywhere, the US and China would work together to crush that revolution.
as china builds socialism you will cry every step of the way that China and the USA are secretly best friends, all the way up until the point that the USA starts thermonuclear war with China, and then you will say it's just inter imperialist war

>>2839482
ultras have nothing but complaining from their armchairs

>>2839483
Why would I cry if China does something that benefits the real movement? You know the "capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them" applies to Chinese capitalists as well right?

>>2839484
I mean if you actually bothered to learn about China from Chinese themselves you would realize all the things I talked about are publicly discussed problems in China. Btw there are lots of Chinese leftcoms as well.

>>2839477
No they wouldn't, they don't even have the capacity for that in the slightest

Replace P with N in Photoshop.

A woman’s hypothermia death in Pittsburgh after her release from ICE custody is ruled a homicide
Daphy Michel, 31, died March 2. She was found at a bus shelter in Pittsburgh. The Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office found her cause of death to be hypothermia and ruled the manner a homicide, “indicating the death was caused by the actions of another individual” and should not be interpreted as a declaration of criminal guilt, the office said in a statement. The office released its findings Friday.
https://apnews.com/article/haiti-woman-homicide-ice-e31e7109eba053b41f6b0319640df042

Cruz breaks with Trump on key endorsements as 2028 looms
Cruz this week announced he was backing Rick Jackson for Georgia governor and Alan Wilson in South Carolina's race for governor. Jackson, a wealthy health care executive, faces Trump-backed Lt. Gov. Burt Jones in Georgia's June 16 runoff. Wilson, South Carolina's attorney general, is up against Trump-endorsed Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette in a runoff taking place on June 23.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/ted-cruz-trump-endorsements-2028
https://archive.ph/ZdgZ6

Blaze at 1m-sq-ft California warehouse rages into third day: ‘We’re struggling’
The fire has been raging at the medical supplier Medline Industries’ warehouse in Tracy, a city of more than 100,000 residents located about 55 miles (90km) east of San Francisco. Officials expect to be battling the fire for a few more days.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/13/california-warehouse-fire-tracy

Some people are making guns with 3D printers. A new law seeks to cancel their print jobs
A New York law signed last month and a bill in the California Legislature both would direct panels of experts to come up with standards for firearm blueprint detection algorithms. The technology would analyze every design submitted for 3D printing, compare it to a digital library of fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Elon Musk: What kind of system produces a trillionaire?
"If a man tells you he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?'" The old remark by Don Marquis has never been more relevant. Elon Musk has officially become the world's first trillionaire. Predictably, the newspapers, television networks and business magazines are treating it as a historic achievement. A monument to innovation. A triumph of genius. Proof that capitalism rewards talent. But a trillion dollars is not a measure of talent. It is rather a measure of power. No human being creates a trillion dollars. No human being earns a trillion dollars. A trillion dollars represents the labor of countless workers — miners, engineers, technicians, drivers, factory workers, programmers, cleaners, warehouse employees — whose collective work is transformed into private wealth. The billionaire appears at the end of the process and claims the credit. The defenders of capitalism want us to marvel at the size of Musk's fortune. We ask a simpler question: Who produced it? Not Musk alone. Not even remotely.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/06/elon-musk-what-kind-of-system-produces-a-trillionaire.html

Mamdani and the ABCs of Marxist State Theory
More than four months have passed since Zohran Mamdani, a young activist from the Democratic Socialists of America, rose to the position of mayor of one of the wealthiest and most important cities in the world. His electoral victory over the Democratic Party establishment candidate, Andrew Cuomo, was viewed sympathetically by many and seen as an expression of a leftward shift among a generation that led the university campus occupations in solidarity with Palestine and has been radicalizing since the rise of Bernie Sanders. His campaign centered on “affordability,” with proposals including free public transportation, taxes on billionaires, and anti-repression demands, such as the dissolution of the police’s most violent units. For these reasons, his candidacy was widely perceived as a challenge to the U.S. political and social order. Yet, as soon as the task of administering the state apparatus took hold of both the candidate and the organization, they made a series of concessions to economic and political power. These concessions sparked intense debaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2834009
assuming this person sodomized people w that thing, funny to think she was my countryman and is probably well-off w some consulting gig or gainfully retired.

>>2833372
>To be fair to Kyle, Fetterman was a totally different person back then, before the brain damage
no he really wasn't, he was just better at faking it. the jogger incident is the best known example of him always being a hotheaded asshole, but I have also been in the same room as pre-stroke fetty IRL and witnessed him raging out the exact same way at some mild left pushback from a fucking DSA meeting. the stroke didn't make him an asshole, it just took away his ability to pretend he wasn't

>>2826855
People are desperate to reduce criticism of Graham Platner to the rejection of ex USA military people in a wider movement when it's never been that. There are plenty of clearly repentant veterans with with histories of activism and political experience. That background is important in that it makes it more likely that this is a person you can trust to cooperate with your political agenda. Platner does not have that. On the contrary he has an extremely sketchy background which he has lied about. Furthermore many supposedly radical independent journalists and media figures (Ryan Grim, Majority Report, Hasan Piker) have repeatedly lied about him. They said he regrets his participation in the military, he doesn't. They said he is anti-war, he isn't. They said he is anti Israel, he's a liberal zionist. They said he has a working class background, he owns an oyster business and comes from a business owning family.

Regarding his class background, it is not a moral failing that he is from a bourgeoisie family, but it's the fact that he and the previously mentioned media people have lied about it. And when that lie and all the others are pointed out, all those legitimate demonstrable criticisms and their conclusion (that there is no good reason to trust this guy and they should have gotten a better candidate), are waved away by Grim, ME, Piker etc. as incoherent crying by tankies or ultras or third worldists. If you are not from the USA, they'll jump to "stfu this isn't your country", as if USA senators weren't people with powers that can affect whole planet. If you are from the USA they'll throw the contrapoints/basil criticism at you (not verbatim because that would be too embarrassing for them): "you don't want power you just want to endlessly critique power". Which has been endlessly ripped apart but once again: any ideologically driven person does not want power just for it's own sake, they want the things that that power can obtain, in the case of leftists a better socioeconomic system.

>>2839037
truthfully I don't remember any of what he said in that meeting that wasn't angry hollering. because I was in the back of the room and he absolutely refused to use a microphone, no matter how many times we tried to tell him it was an accessibility issue. every single other candidate just got up at the podium and spoke, but he insisted on doing his fakeass "man of the people" act in the middle of the aisle and refused to touch the wireless mic they kept trying to hand him
(yeah I know, lol DSA electoral shit, I was a dumbass and had to learn the hard way how retarded it was)

>>2838380
Total pro-lifer death

>>2838784
>I think people don't like reading things they might potentially disagree with
yeah most people are intellectually cowards like this

Yes but it is worth pointing out the aged phases of this too.
For example what you say reminds me of the… "discourse" you see on communities like Deprogram subeddit, but that also has a clear bias towards the very young and recently initiated. They simply haven't had time to read more than an individual few number of works, if any at all in full, relying on hunches, memes, summaries, guesstimations, wikipedia, LLM responses for a lot of their "views" so far.
It's up to the older among us, I'd say anyone past 25 y/o, to intervene without as much condescension as is sometimes observable and actually be informative in a dialectical way about the misinfo haze they find themselves in.
Among the hardest struggles personally is to 1. discard the pb "read a book stupid" mentality that chans have fostered in me and in addition to actually systematize referencing and sourcing. For the longest time I just read books willy nilly and tried store this shit in memory, approximally verbalize "the gist" to those that dont know. I've come to learn how inefficient that is due to the sheer depth of younger people's theoretical illiteracy, a consequence of AI-powered social media evolution compromizing them dopaminergically to petty bourg "left" populist grifters.

"who could've thought he'd become a fascist" >>2838823

>>2838784
Curious about some examples from both sides if you have any

>>2838784
>people from both schools of thought clearly haven't read outside of that school of thought
people don't even read shit from their own school of thought
myself included

>>2838121
>>2838141
i want to clarify that this guy is not OP

>>2838173
Good reply, thank you.

>>2836715
I think Lenin on the Prussian path of agrarian development is relevant here.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1907/agrprogr/ch01s5.htm

I think it is entirely possible that the bourgeoisie may usher in communism for the bourgeoisie and then kill most of the proles. This would be bad.

I think the quickest and least painful path to socialism involves revolutionary struggle. I am opposed to a long and cruel path to socialism.

>>2838351
>the bourgeoisie may usher in communism for the bourgeoisie and then kill most of the proles. This would be bad.
I've heard this one before and I'm not convinced. It's based on the fantasy that they will just have AI robot slaves that are somehow more energy efficient than humans, who will always do what they're told, always have context sensitivity, never disobey, and are able to do everything from washing dishes to picking crops, to cleaning toilets. I just don't buy it.

>>2838351
>I think the quickest and least painful path to socialism involves revolutionary struggle. I am opposed to a long and cruel path to socialism.
True and yet everyone wants to be the next Lenin and not the next red army conscript bleeding out in a trench

>>2836528
Humans

After Hitler's death a new version of Mein Kampf was released with thousands of footnotes calling out his bullshit, and all sales of the book were donated to Jewish families. What nobody talks about tho, is that in the 60s Jewish bankers and politicians ended the deal to incentivize Israelis to continue stealing from Palestinians amid the wave of decolonization and racial equality sweeping the west

>>2836531
The jewish continuous genealogy stories are myths, and jews are made up of converts from the areas they lived.
Thank you, god bless.

>>2834367
Giga Based

>>2838875
Just like Kars 4 Kids but with Hitler!

>>2837742
He said "white" genocide.

>>2837716
If they are doing for profit, they are only going to amplify what's already popular.

>>2837820
I mean kinda but not really, it's a lot easier to generate shock outrage content than actually thoughtful stuff, it leads to a general degeneration of the mindset of the viewer towards reactionism.

>>2837776
only applies to ruthenians

>>2838726
I always knew Ukrainians were Black.

>>2837884
Because you touch yourself at night

Huh

The Mob and other American organized crime groups had a huge presence in Cuba before the revolution. Cuba was a massive hub of gambling and drug and human trafficking under gangsters like Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano. Said gangsters were heavily involved in US intelligence backed anti-communist terror networks that tried to undermine Cuban socialism.

>>2837810
On on the 20th of May 1902 Cuba gained
Faux “independence” from the United States with a constitution that was accepted by the USA on the condition it was amended to include giving the united states the right to invade Cuba if it felt the Cuban government was jeopardising “freedom”, a limitation of the amount of public debt the Cuban government could have, letting the U.S. keep Guantanamo, Cuba required U.S. permission to entire into relations with other countries.

>>2837810

>>2838682
America used their right to invade Cuba to occupy it for a 2nd time from September 1906 to February 1907, to crush an Afro Cuban uprising in 1912, and to occupy it a 3rd time from August 25th 1917 to February 15th 1922

>>2831936

>It is vague. How does this exploitation occur? What are its characteristics? What makes someone a worker and what makes someone a boss?

A worker is someone who must sell their labor to survive because they don't own productive resources. A boss is someone who owns productive resources and therefore can extract surplus from those who do the work. Exploitation occurs through this structural relationship not through individual bad behavior but through the wage relation itself. It's the same basic analysis as Marx. The anarchist addition is that the state isn't just a tool of this class relation but co produces it. For example, enclosure, legal enforcement of property, suppression of horizontal institutions are all state functions that make capitalism possible.

>What else is anarchism based on if not scientific methods?

Materialist analysis of power structures rather than a teleological stage theory. The disagreement with Marxism isn't about method, it's about whether history has a predetermined destination requiring a transitional state to get there.

>Are anarchists for or against small production, large scale industry?

Social anarchists favor collective ownership and management of large scale industry through worker councils and federations. Not small production as a romantic ideal, not state ownership, but direct worker administration.

Yellow unions? All unions? Every social movement? What is "popular education"?
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I attended the first smack a white boy event, where we disrupted the crimethinc anarchist confrence in our neighborhoods which were facing gentrification, ask me anything.

>>2838506
>Materialist analysis of power structures rather than a teleological stage theory. The disagreement with Marxism isn't about method, it's about whether history has a predetermined destination requiring a transitional state to get there.
Are you the same anon spamming the board about Marxist teleology?

>>2838561
link?

>>2838561
No though I've only posted in the other anarchist thread to show the social anarchist perspective

Kim is the only man to make Xi stutter and trip on his own shoes

Rumors has it Kim, during his off the record visit to China at the height of 2010s DPRK-China tensions, took Xi to an otherwise empty parking lot in which they had escorted Xi to park his car. When Kim and the Workers Party of Korea went with him back to the parking lot they surprised Xi with the introduction to the DPRK's first working nuclear missile. It was held by a crane 50 meters in the air, centered above Xi's car. Slowly but surely it was lowered, and the closer it got the sheer size of it was demonstrated. "P-Please! Stop! Stop that!" Xi exclaimed, but to no avail. Uninterrupted in its secure descent the nuclear warhead arrived at the roof and effortlessly smushing his car flat, before it stopped. Xi was at a loss of words, before falling to his knees. He uttered "I apologize", in Korean.

>>2838287
When all the leaders go to pay deference to the Workers Party of Korea they also make the leaders do some labour, which is considerate of them.

>>2838294
screencap this gem