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On contradictions mao talks about there being a progressive bourgesisie, a bourgesisie thats good and helped the shift from the chinese feudal mode of production to capitalist mode of production and thus allowing a socialist mode.

Yes its confusing and i don't get it even after reading it because i don't think he understoon dialects.
But it makes me think, today is there a progressive bourgesisie in america? I thought the CEOs of ben and jerrys were good until they were ousted, and also buckyies.
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>>2855279
And Other Opinions Of The Utterly Insane



>>2855364
wow mao said it was good

>>2877893
Average maoits



 

The global economy is overproducing in general. Abolishing overproduction would not lead to drop in living standards, since with planning and rationing we can ensure decent living standards for 8.5 billion people using 30% of current production, and use the remaining surplus for luxury, free time, and science.
<Some narratives* in international development hold that ending poverty and achieving good lives for all will require every country to reach the levels of GDP per capita that currently characterise high-income countries.
<However, this would require increasing total global output and resource use several times over, dramatically exacerbating ecological breakdown.
<Furthermore, universal convergence along these lines is unlikely within the imperialist structure of the existing world economy.
<Here we demonstrate that this dilemma can be resolved with a different approach, rooted in recent needs-based analyses of poverty and development.
<Strategies for development should not pursue capitalist growth and increased aggregate production as such, but should rather increase the specific forms of production that are necessary to improve capabilities and meet human needs at a high standard, while ensuring universal access to key goods and services through public provisioning and decommodification.
<At the same time, in high-income countries**, less-necessary production should be scaled down to enable faster decarbonization and to help bring resource use back within planetary boundaries.
<With this approach, good lives can be achieved for all without requiring large increases in total global throughput and output.==
<Provisioning decent living standards (DLS) for 8.5 billion people would require only 30% of current global resource and energy use, leaving a substantial surplus for additional consumption, public luxury, scientific advancement, and other social investmentsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2854484
>Abolishing overproduction would not lead to drop in living standards, since with planning and rationing we can ensure decent living standards for 8.5 billion people using 30% of current production, and use the remaining surplus for luxury, free time, and science.

umm fuck your science. it's bourgeois. clearly the world is a zero sum game. every calorie that goes into a westoid tummy is ripped out of a third world tummy.

(jk anon, this is totally correct and has been correct for decades now)

>>2854546
>every american has a car, 3 iphones, a laptop, a gaming pc, a smart watch, a fridge, a microwace, AC, and hundreds of useless little trinkets they buy from time to time
even the homeless. it's true

>>2854546
And yet if you eliminate the inherent wastefulness of capitalism it becomes possible for literally everybody in the world to have a comparable living standard without growing global GDP.

>>2854484
search copper -> no results
search soil -> no results
search coltan -> no results
search concrete -> no results

Anyway the left should figure out if we need to expand the means of production to overcome scarcity or if we're actually overproducing and just have to distribute it better. The latter is probably more optimistic unless you want to start doing asteroid mining or we figure a way to save the topsoil and vanishing fossil water.

>>2854484
>The global economy is overproducing in general
overproducing relative to what



 

ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

Manica di degenerati. Non mi aspettavo proprio che dopo un mese d'assenza, il filo cadesse dalla tavola. Vabè, leftypol ormai è l'ombra di quello che era soltanto qualche anno fa, ma c'è un limite a tutto.
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>>2829865
Na tristezza

Bump

Sembra che il fascismo vincerà in Italia. Voglio dire, a questo punto la maggior minaccia del governo Meloni non è neanche uno della sinistra, ma un ex’generale capitalista, razzista e omofobico che vuole che l’Italia sia ancora più schiava all’America ed Israele (ma del resto, nessun politico in Italia può avere una carriera senza viaggiare a Washington DC per dichiarare massima lealtà alla casa Bianca e Tel Aviv). Ovviamente, sto parlando di Roberto Vannacci del “Futuro Nazionale”, che ora ha 5% dei sondaggi. Credo che l’italiani abbiano già capito che votare non serve a nulla, ma credo che Meloni cercherà di allearsi con lui per poter rimanere in potere per lungo sebbene i sondaggi di Meloni non sono le migliori.

>>2857100
Elettori di destra i più cojoni in assoluto. Le proposte di Vannacci sono tutte minestra riscaldata, tutta roba già proposta da salvini e meloni. Paese bollito.

>>2752797
what the fuck is a moffinist



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A peasant, a shepherd, a simple worker from Donbass, he became the leader of the most powerful country in the world. Was such a thing possible under capitalism?
"I learned to count to 30, and my father decided that learning was enough for me," Khrushchev recalled. "All you need is to learn to count money, and you'll never have more than thirty rubles anyway. My father dreamed of saving up, returning to the village, and buying a horse to grow enough potatoes and cabbage to feed the family. But we never got a horse. My parents cherished this dream even after 1908, when we finally moved to Yuzovka. There, my father worked in the mines, my mother washed clothes, and I cleaned steam boilers."
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and Russia benefited so much from Central Asia that it voluntarily abandoned the idea of ​​a single country with it

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>i was colonisated

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>>2857363
>All you need is to learn to count money, and you'll never have more than thirty rubles anyway.
retard didn't know about inflation smdh



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I think it’s interesting to observe the pattern of technological development in Africa compared to NATO. A lot of what’s being made there is surprisingly specific, pragmatic, and efficient compared to many new western technologies that often serve as solutions to problems western companies make.

Technologies built around mobile systems; efficient use of clay, cement, and steel metals; decentralized utility and logistics systems; a lot of work related to solar power which im happy for; some oddly specific technological developments surrounding armoured cars, surveillance, and border security etc.

From what I infer a lot of this behaviour is driven organically by the geographic conditions of the continent in general. Many of the resources on the continent are stretched across vast distances, sparse/scarce in supplies, and broken up by unusually poor terrain. This often means that any technological developments made are unusually way more specific, pragmatic, and efficient in use for immediate and existing problems compared to tech made outside of it where figures or promises on features surrounding what the tech can do. Sometimes, this does *alot* to change how people approach life. It’s only recently that a lot of changes were made so that desert sands and earth could be used conventionally at scale to produce modular construction kit—this is huge on construction in general since it offers a way to build on the scale that china did *without causing the same level of ecological destruction*.

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by Africa do you count North-Africa or just Sub-Saharan Africa
?

>>2857368
>by Africa do you count North-Africa or just Sub-Saharan Africa
why did you ask this question



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What happened to Trump's freedom cities, and other techno-feudist projects?
Trump in 2023 made a promise to build 13 new cities where there would be near-zero environmental or labor regulations, effectively giving corporations their own fiefdoms.

This project as of 2026 has been stalled and instead trump is obsessed with his ballroom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Cities
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What if trump built trumpland

Elon Musk has a secret black site in Texas where he's doing brain surgery for neuralink.

>I found a facility that Travis County thinks is a ranch. The EPA has never visited it, not once in five years, even though it sits on the Colorado River in a watershed that feeds Austin's drinking water. The animals being used there are registered to a UPS Store mailbox in Fremont, California. And yet the state environmental agency doesn't call it a ranch. It calls it a Commercial Research Facility. One where over 600 animals have undergone brain surgery.


>And then on March 31, 2026, Neuralink's General Counsel signed a new LLC into existence at that address. It's called Neuralink Surgery Center LLC. There is no surgery center license on file in Texas.


>This is the company that wants inside your skull.


>The full investigation: thedreydossier.substack.com

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They literally can’t even get rural communities to both work and be ancap, how would it work for any large metropolitan area?

>>2856094
>Elon Musk has a secret black site in Texas where he's doing brain surgery for neuralink.
can I kidnap chuds and send them there?




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Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
I thouht the proles were supposed to be in charge? Did ML's lie to me? I dont believe it.
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>>2857137
I said it unironically. How gorbachev and his clique could be so naive is beyond me. At least CPC has learnt her lessons about this catastrophy.

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>Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
<Revisionism and its consequences for the human species

>>2824516
the population voted for the new union treaty/gorbachev's conception of the union, regardless of if that was right or wrong, once it became clear that dream was dead, they moved on

>>2825014
da jooz are not responsible for your inability to plan an economy

>>2857145
gorbachev wasn't naive. he literally wanted to destroy communism, and so did yakoklev



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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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>>2829020
>but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union
This can be how you end up with a labour aristocracy though. For example, it was common in the past for dockworkers to show solidarity with people in colonial or fascist countries by refusing to load or upload goods bound for or coming from those countries. To take a comteporary hypothetical, if a dockworker's union and management are in negotiations, and management offers a contract that includes large wage and benefit increases in exchange for a pledge not to boycott military shipments to Israel, should the union take the deal?

>>2829034
>should the union take the deal?
You're describing the economist issue. Syndicate action has to be made political, otherwise it is just economism. But it is hard to repoliticize syndicates.

>>2808692
>why hasn't this happened yet?
Coordinated effort by porkies to keep unions disorganized.

>>2808692
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
The third world is filled with small capitalists and reactionaries that prevent that violently.

>>2808802
>You don't need to wait for workers to fight for their wages in other countries; just use state capitalism to encourage occupations, nationalizations, cooperatives, and bankrupt other private companies so that state-owned enterprises can compete against them with cheap consumer goods. A national bank with its own currency, 100% state-owned but not independent, should provide cheap credit to the masses.
this is how you get CIA couped



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the commanding heights of the economy should be state owned. commodities essential to the survival of the society should be collectively owned by society. commodities essential to the survival of the individual should be the property of the individual who intends to use them, after they have been produced by society. production of commodities not essential to the survival of the individual can be produced by worker owned cooperatives that are limited by the state in number according to production plan, that way you don't have a whole country of people running off to make vidya games for a living when there are ores to be mined and surgeries to be performed. add in labor vouchers with a clear date of expiration and periodic decay from the date of distribution, so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts. Keep statistics on necessities so they are not produced just in time as needed, with only a small buffer surplus, to avoid the problem of food waste. Encourage frequent days off and healthcare checkups for preventative care, so that serious medical interventions are needed less often, and problems like cancer can be nipped in the bud early. If the population begins to age too much, resulting in too many retirees to take care of, while birth rates decline… fuck. I haven't figured that one out yet.
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>>2856127
You can't do M - C - M' if there is no money (medium which mystifies value). Plus the value of time-vouchers decreases as production develops, since it takes less time. But 1 hour of labor-time is still 1 hour of labor-time. More effectively you could even go down to joules to get even better measurements.

>>2855969
>do NOT imagine a better state of things
you really are a socdem

>>2856292
if labor vouchers can be hoarded and exchanged for means of production, then a neo-bourgeoisie could emerge from a cartel of labor voucher hoarders.

>>2856808
Who owns the MoP you're exchanging this "hoarded pile of labor vouchers"? And why is your Crusoe so keen on owning MoP?

>>2856874
ambitious individuals will try to reintroduce exploitation while the normie cattle are not paying attention. eternal vigilance is required and anything else is cope



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If you think about it…

The ACP is basically all the worst parts of CPUSA combined into a single reactionary party that exists to cry about all the other orgs, coup subreddits, support the petitie-bourgesisie, and be transphobic.

>flood
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>>2855647
>>2856367
>>2856369
>A Menshevik, eurocom and Marcyite walk into a bar…
You lack complexity and demonstrate naivite. The following quantitative methodology thread will help improve your material analysis, for you are missing connections as demonstrated by your sentences.
Read in full before replying: >>2758817

The worst part of the CPUSA is that they are loyal slaves of the Democrats and you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.

>>2856369
>PSL
I used to think so to but they pussied out big time by condemning the SMO in Ukraine.

>>2856375
>infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside
What "leftism" in America exists to infiltrate you fucking retard? Your shitty little Twitter clique? Your subreddit? Name even one organization that matters, that has achieved anything in half a century. There is nothing to destroy.

>>2856569
>how is babby formed?

>>2856569
u jus big mad that ppl dont take you seriosuly cuz why tf would they

>>2856763
they need to do way with instain mother who kill thier babbys



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