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I wrote this as a proposal for both capitalism and socialism so excuse me talking about taxes in the example;

I consider myself a big supporter of direct democracy, however there is a problem that people point out that everyone can't be educated on all issues and someone has to write the laws as a full time job. I usually advocate a system of delegates to do this somewhat similar to 'liquid democracy', but I just had the thought that we could use sortition as the highest body.

Every year, or two, or something like that, we would select people via sortition to sit in parliament (or whatever you want to call it). They would have the job of setting the votes for the public to decide on. This would not be in the subject of full laws initially but in the sense of simple questions like "do we want to impose a tax increase of 1% on corporate profits to go towards education". Then the public will vote, let's say they say yes, then the sortees will draw up a law to that effect with the help of public servants/legal experts to give them guidance on how to actually do this and any potential problems with implementation. Then once that law is drafted, it will be passed and put into effect - however there is a time period of say a month where the public can object to the final wording of the law, if some number of the public vote that they don't believe the final wording matches the original intent, they can ask for a review of the law (let's say 5% of the citizens for sake of argument). Then there will be a public consultation process where the law is discussed with the public, and hopefully changes are made, then the new law will be voted on by the public who can accept or reject the final version.

Since this process is a pain, hopefully simple laws like "we will build a new sewer pipeline" will not have to go through this process unless there's some glaring issue with them and public debate will focus on genuinely contentious issues.

Anyway, I think this could be a good method to allow true democracy while also respecting the fact that average people don't have time for legal minutiae.

The biggest problem I can see is that the sortees will be reliant on the public servants/legal experts to interpret things for them to some extent and if those people tried to actively insert a bias into the process it could lead to issues. I think that this could be partly solved by ensuring these people represent a range of political viewPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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An issue is confusing suffrage and democracy. If the right to vote does not lead to the "rule of the people", then universal suffrage can persist, even by an absence of democracy. This is also part of Marx's naivety (1852):
<The carrying of Universal Suffrage in England would, therefore, be a far more socialistic measure than anything which has been honored with that name on the Continent. Its inevitable result, here, is the political supremacy of the working class.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/08/25.htm
Around a century of universal suffrage in the UK has not brought any supremacy of the working class, and so the capacity of voting is not a measure of either "freedom" or "democracy", and in fact, the opposite has occured. The political cartel of "representatives" has expanded to over 21,000 members in the UK, who are incompetent or malicious in their task of improving the lives of others. This has a simple explanation however, that the demand for politicians raises supply, and this is best achieved by the failure to complete tasks, like how our construction workers are incredibly ineffecient since it extends their salaries. We see a similar crisis of overemployment in such services as the Police Force, which has been duely commented on since at least 1994 (e.g. Francis), in how "anarcho-tyranny" is a perpetuation crime as a means to increase the police sector. The "War on Drugs" is a good example, while in the UK, there is a war against words. The manufacture of problems in order to sell solutions is then a large industry, and this infects all politicians.

The confusion of present systems of government are shown. In France, Germany, the UK and US, you have bicameral legislatures, which have majority/minority parties, as well as general representatives for the lower and upper houses of parliament, such as Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Speakers, and so on. This is in tandem with Executiveship, which in both France and the US, are given by general elections, apart from local elections. It is almost purposefully convoluted and wasteful, and the movement toward unicameral governments should be embraced. In the US, calls to abolish the Senate, and in the UK, calls to abolish the House of Lords, have popular demand from people. The "separation of powers" does not seem to preserve virtPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2877463
Dictatorship of the proletariat

>>2877473
Which looks like what exactly.

>>2877472
In my proposed system, the sortees would only be there to administer the direct democratic system basically. They decide on what forms laws and votes take but don't have the final say.

>>2877475
>They decide on what forms laws and votes take but don't have the final say.
But wouldn't it be a job of professional lawyers to this?
An issue of statesmen isn't in their expertise, but only of trust. Nobody in the world trusts their politicians today. So, if we are to have overseers, it has to be somebody trustworthy, which requires fatal penalties for failure, as well as competence to complete tasks. What exactly is this sortition lottery? Is it like jury duty?

>>2877475
>>2877481
Just to clarify, I think that a system of random sortition "works" in a representative democracy, but I don't think it works in a direct democracy.



 

Post your best diagrams, flowcharts, maps, timelines, cheat sheets, and visual explanations. Stuff that's easy to save, understand, and pass around.

No AI slop and no walls of text, please and thank you.
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>>2876976
Thats some lib shit

>>2876955
>>2876973
I have had a moderate amount of sex, still enjoy sex, and would like you to contribute infographics and educational content.

>>2876976
Oh joy, more spookery from libs that totally don't believe in the same bullshit as white supremacists just inverted.

Race and Gender are spooks created by the ruling class to act as divide and conquer BS to keep the working class fighting amongst each other.

>>2876976
>science is white
>also christianism is white




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We can — after extensive analysis — recognize that Bakunin truly conquered the bread.
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>>2875743
Nice pun, except The conquest of bread was written by Kropotkin not Bakunin.
Too bad

>>2876732
as the torah says,
the turd does not fall far from the faggot's ass


>>2876733
Somewhat to Kropotkins credit, he distanced himself from and ended up critiquing Bakunin along with some of the more anti-semitic anarchists at the time.

He conquered the MacDonalds



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https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412
>NOOOOOOO DONT MAKE AI OPEN SOURCE, ITLL KILL US ALL BUT WE ALSO WONT BE ABLE TO CHARGE RENTS FOR ITS USE AND MAKE TRILLIONS WHILE RIDING THE COAT TAILS OF THE ASI GOD WE ARE CREATING TO ESTABLISH WORLD DOMINATION

Behold, the most transparent capitalist melty ever. These people are nothing but parasites and the entire American AI boom is nothing but a scam. The AI industry needs to be nationalize and strategic tech and arms control need to be created between primarily the US and China much less the rest of the world.
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>>2877377
companies like cursor and lovable just wrap access to chatgpt or claude in a pretty interface, so the minute chatgpt or anthropic start raising prices, which is what they intend to do to make their investors whole, they either absorb the rising costs and go bust, or pass the cost to consumers and go bust. meaning that their existence literally depends on what AI providers decide their price should be. with open weight models, they can just grab kimi, retrain it a little bit, and pass it as their own model, and not be tied to the whims of either chatgpt or anthropic. which is what cursor did with composer 2.

>>2877379 (me)
open weight models also mean that openai and anthropic effectively lose the defacto monopoly over the AI space, which means that they can no longer raise prices as a cartel to recoup investor money because consumers will just go to another provider. so if they have no avenue for profit through cartelized pricing schemes, then they can just go bust. so you see, either open weight models are allowed in the US, and companies like cursor live another day while openai dies, or open weight models are banned, cursor dies, and openai and anthropic get to dominate through a government-mandated oligopoly.

>>2872811
who is this moron anyway?
>a Visiting Fellow at Heritage Foundation
ah yes…
>served as Senior Policy Advisor for Artificial Intelligence and Emerging Technology at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
>was the primary staff drafter of America’s AI Action Plan
okay
>he also serves as a Visiting Lecturer at Yale Law School
>where he co-teaches the Colloquium on Frontier AI Governance
whatever that means
<a lot more yada yada about AI and whatever policy
>graduated magna cum laude from Hamilton College in 2014 with a B.A. in History
LMAO. why is it the most unqualified people lobby for and make policy for shit they have zero qualification to talk about in any way?

OH MY BURGER, THE CHINESE ARE BEATING US, SHUT IT DOWN
OH MY BURGER, THE CHINESE ARE BEATING US, SHUT IT DOWN
OH MY BURGER, THE CHINESE ARE BEATING US, SHUT IT DOWN
OH MY BURGER, THE CHINESE ARE BEATING US, SHUT IT DOWN

>>2877342
>At the end of the day capital will embrace whatever reduces socially necessary labor time to produce commodities, which means embracing whatever is most efficient.
But I thought we lived in the age of imperialism and monopoly capitalism. Only losers have to compete.



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It was historically progressive for the USA to have the Yankees defeat the dixies.

BUT it would have been historically progressive for the rest of the world if the dixies defeated the yankees.

only ultroids and libtards will fail to understand
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>>2875461
Why was the Russian Empire pro union? I know why the UK wanted the South to win. Cotton for their textile industry.

>>2877306
Negative polarization against the UK

The South was the major interventionist region in pre-Pearl Harbor USA. If you want an alt history, have the North join the Axis in order to conquer the South.

>>2877309
Turtledove’s novels have the north joining the central powers in WWI, that’s the closest you’ll get




 

Amerimutt brotech company has been approved to launch a prototype satellite carrying a 20m wide mirror to reflect sunlight back on Earth on an area of 5km2.
The company plans to launch ONE THOUSAND of these things in two years and have 6,000 units in the sky by 2030.
Since we know the American government nowadays and in the future will be little more than a rubber stamp for whatever tech fascists want it's pretty much assured the company will try to fill the sky with reflecting mirrors unless their prototype fails spectacularly or turns out to be extremely unprofitable.

>Mr. Nowack said in an interview in March that the company would charge about $5,000 an hour for the light of one mirror if a customer signed an annual contract for at least 1,000 hours. Lighting for one-time events and emergencies, which might require numerous satellites and more effort to coordinate, would be more expensive. For solar farms, he envisions splitting revenue from the electricity generated by the additional hours of light.

>He said that Reflect Orbital’s satellites could be a tool to reduce the burning of fossil fuels and thus slow climate change. One of the biggest weaknesses of solar power is that electric generation stops when the sun sets, although batteries are enabling the ability to tap into stored solar power after dark.
>The satellite could accelerate construction projects, with crews working more safely through the night, and farmers could grow more food per acre, the company said.

https://archive.is/z9JUz

>>2877326
You saw the movie.

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>>2877326
>amerimutt
stopped reading



 

Israeli settlers rampage through Palestinian village near Nablus
Residents said that at least two homes were set on fire, while several Palestinians suffered from smoke inhalation after the fires. Eyewitnesses told MEE that villagers also attempted to confront the attackers and prevent further damage. The attack on the village comes after a series of attacks carried out by settlers in the Nablus area, following the deadly attack on the town of Tell.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-settlers-rampage-through-palestinian-village-near-nablus-burn-homes-and-force-families

US expands Iran attacks as Trump warns Tehran and Houthis over Red Sea strikes
The US has struck targets across Iran, reaching as far as the Caspian Sea, as Donald Trump threatened “major military punishment” for Tehran and its Houthi allies in Yemen for extending the war to a second shipping ⁠chokepoint at the entrance to the Red Sea.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/24/us-expands-iran-attacks-as-trump-warns-tehran-and-houthis-over-red-sea-strikes

Dodging snipers, housing crisis forces Yemenis to live on front line
Um Yousef knew that living on the front line in Taiz was dangerous. The area had been quieter for the past few years thanks to a general de-escalation of the war in Yemen, but it still lay between territory controlled by Yemeni government forces and Houthi rebels. Destroyed buildings mark the city’s front line areas, evidence of the brutal fighting that has lasted for more than a decade.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/25/dodging-snipers-housing-crisis-forces-yemenis-to-live-on-front-line
https://archive.ph/YDWZ0

Gabon opposition leader jailed for political reasons, his lawyers say
Gabon's main opposition leader, Alain ClaudPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Inside the growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras
As anger grows towards law enforcement contracts with Flock, vigilantes across the country are taking matters into their own hands by smashing, obstructing or taking down these cameras.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jul/25/flock-surveillance-cameras

Food banks confront growing SNAP gap
As the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) continues to undergo a historic remolding, food banks say they're staring down a gap they can't fill. "We've been operating kind of in emergency management mode," says Terri Shoemaker, the executive vice president of the Arizona Food Bank Network. "At some point, that will fatigue."
https://www.axios.com/2026/07/25/food-banks-snap-cuts-obbb
https://archive.ph/HeLAl

Americans rewire their grocery shopping routines while digesting the biggest price jump in 50 years
An economic indicator like median wages does not capture the capacity of family budgets to accommodate additional price hikes. Americans spent an average of 12.9% of their pretax incomes on eating out and at home in 2024, but the share was 33% for the one-fifth of U.S. households with the lowest earnings, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Prices also can vary substantially by region. In St. Louis, food for home use cost 2% more in June compared to a year earlier; in San Francisco, it was 6%, the consumer price index showed.
https://apnews.com/article/grocery-shopping-prices-food-affordability-8468c1d6532ca762bbcfa17e3c7707d1

Troy Jackson secures Democratic nomination for Maine Senate seat after chaotic primary race
Jackson’s win amounted to a coronation for the progressive fifth‑generation logger and former state senate president, who faced no real opposition at the special convention after every major rival stepped asidePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Pushed Face to the Ground, Abderrahim Fakir Couldn’t Breathe
Anger stirred in Italy this past week after forty-two-year-old Abderrahim Fakir was killed while under police restraint during a routine check in Bologna. On Sunday, Fakir’s neighbors had called emergency number 118 after hearing screams, and police arrived first on the scene. Video footage shows two officers grabbing the man and holding him face down on the street for several minutes, applying pressure on his back after pepper-spraying him while he was already face to the ground, his ankles bound. When paramedics arrived, they stood watching as Fakir cried “help, stop.” He then stopped talking and moving, before being pronounced dead at the scene. A later preliminary exam showed lung compression was a possible cause of death. Fakir was a Moroccan national, and the country’s embassy said it was “following the case closely and with deep concern.” The Bologna city attorney has already opened a case against two officers and four paramedics, ordering an autopsy. But this case is also significant because for the first time a so-called criminal shield was invoked. This legal device, introduced in the right-wing government’s security decree this April, can prevent attorneys from writing someone on the suspect list if there is reason to believe they acted in self-defense or — crucially for violence by police — in the line of duty. This restarted debates about the propriety of this measure that many Italians already feared would give police too much power, and even impunity.
https://jacobin.com/2026/07/italy-fakir-police-violence-protest

Remembering Lindsey Graham Not for the Evil He Did But for the Fun He Had Doing It
When Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham died suddenly on Saturday night, July 11, corporate media’s elegiac coverage didn’t just whitewash his record—it illustrated the affinity and symbiosis between the press corps and the politician they were meant to hold to account. Like corporate journalists, Graham played a key role in cheerleading imperial wars and promoting domestic inequality. And Graham and the media both prioritized the appearance of bipartisanship while normalizing Trump and his politics.
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The more I look into history the more I realize that a huge number of supposedly old traditions are actually pretty recent. specifically products from around the 1970s.

Living in a Muslim country this is especially obvious with Islam. Before our societies obviously weren't "secular", but religion was much more rooted in local cultures, regional history and different traditions. A lot of what people now present as Islam(that has always existed) really comes out of the Sahwa movement of the 1970s, when Gulf states poured money into exporting their version of Islam through preachers, universities and televangelists.
But it's not just Islam. American evangelical Christianity's televangelist boom took off around the same era. Modern identity politics many strands of contemporary feminism and various political movements also took the forms we recognize today during the 1970s.
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>>2875334
What the other anon said. Also, I don't know if you're a zoomer or not, but I don't think you understand how misogynistic raunch culture used to be. A lot of the annoying feminists out types complained about were reacting against that. I'm talking about dozens of big budget movies eyes year where young women were routinely humiliated and sexualized, then paired with unattractive male protagonists. That was a standard formula for nearly 50 years.
As I've gotten older, I've become more sympathetic to feminists. I still think the movement would benefit from embracing socialism and being less individualistic, but I understand where it comes from.

>>2875397
He and you are both retardedly myopic.

>>2875416
I'm not against sexuality or romance in media, but I do think a healthier approach benefits both men and women. You can tell romantic stories featuring attractive people or more average-looking people without reducing everything to depraved fetishes. There's a big difference between portraying romance or attraction and promoting a raunch ideal that basically encourages men to act like perverts.

Bad weed, good blow and good acid decent music too
Dont forget queludes

>>2875693
shit, shit, shit and more shit



 

>"They brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks’ bells. They willingly traded everything they owned . . . They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They would make fine servants . . . with fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."

Why do white people fail at the basic task of displaying empathy and kindness to other beings? Is it because of the christian notion of the great chain of being?
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Doesn't everyone have original sin?

I kind of welcome the ecological collapse just because I wanna see right wingers stunned faces when their houses burn down

>>2876961
Native Americans have lived on the land for 12000 years yet whites managed to destroy the world in less than a couple of centuries

>>2876962
Look up which countries most pollute the planet.
Capitalism is not a "white" system.




 

What is the likelihood of the contradictions of capitalism accelerating to such a bad extent that another American Civil War breaks out, specifically before 2030.

And if it were to happen, what would be the leading factions, would there be a revolutionary party disciplined enough to overthrow the capitalist class during the internal conflict, and also, would it just result in an even more extreme fascist takeover?

Has the Iran accelerated the process of civil war?
Is the 2028 election gonna result in civil war?
Will a economic crash happen before it?
Is Trump gonna attempt a self-coup on the government that causes a civil war?
How will the DSA, CPUSA, RCP, Antifa, Trade unions, etc react to it?

(Yes i know i used the socdem antisemtic professor for the video)
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The longer we wait, the more violent the revolution will have to be

KILL THE EPSTEIN ELITE

Not gonna happen, everyone is too fat, addicted, or old

>>2839206
I’d say it’s likely by the 2040s I’d say

USA USA USA USA



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