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It doesn't matter what ideology you have. Whether you're left-wing, right-wing, communist, anarchist, primitivist, nihilist, Nazi, Muslim, or Christian. You can't be a revolutionary if asceticism isn't part of your life. What do you give up? Social media? Video games? Drugs? Shopping? You know perfectly well what the comforts of the system do to your revolutionary spirit. It corrupts you, it makes you dependent. The system re-educates you with consumption and comfort.
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>>2794155
I'm very ascetic when it comes to some things, and very hedonistic when it comes to other things

>>2794258
>Engels raped
sauceless accusation

There's no virtue or benefit to suffering for sufferings sake, to engage in performative poverty and pain.

>>2794799
this was Deng's point too and everyone hates him for it



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I see a lot of talk concerning how Israel should be supported by the USA and European countries for various reasons and, notably, none of them concern with material benefits for either native Europeans or long-time American citizens, instead focusing on abstractions and ideals. As Trump has led the USA into another forever war with Iran (at the behest of Israel, per the words of US Secretary of State Marco Rubio), it is pertinent to talk about a common anti-Zionist talking point that I find counterproductive. Namely: Israel’s colonialism is the same as that of American settle colonialism from the late 18th century to the early 20th century.

This is incorrect as, while America is a settler-colonial state, nonetheless was founded on the basis of enlightenment principles like equality before the law and liberty, considering how the American and French revolutions at the time were leftist at the time of the events, with the notion of equality of men itself being already extremely radical at a time when absolute monarchies were the standard in Europe. That’s not all, as contrary to popular opinion the Founding Fathers themselves weren’t conservative. Whether it’s the lack of any mention specifying the USA as a “white Christian country” founded on the basis of theology in the constitution and the federalist papers, George Washington himself coming to oppose slavery before the abolitionist movement began to gain momentum, many of said fathers being at best deists or nominally Christian, the USA being effectively the first democratic republic in history with limited suffrage being a short-lived experiment that was swept away in favour of universal male suffrage, Thomas Jefferson himself owning a copy of the Quran and a version of the Bible excised of all supernatural elements and among other examples show that the USA was far from the hotbed of reactionary politics both liberals and chuds tend to portray it as. Even the Indian Removal Act that led to the infamous “Trail of Tears” wasn’t unanimously agreed upon, with strong opposition by Christian missionaries and other politicians who opposed it based on the shared humanity and parity between white settlers Native Americans. Indeed, while such ideals coexisted with institutionalised inequality, it is precisely by appealing to those founding ideals unique to America's foundations that movements like MLK's civil rights was even possible. Indeed, had it not been for America, most of the progressive movementsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2771618
nope, swarthy meant darksinned back then too. consult an etymology dictionary if you don't believe me. I think franklin called so many europeans swarthy because most of the european immigrants to pennsylvania at this time were indentured workers who came over on boats and had just spent months getting hit by direct sunlight every day.

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The mayor of the capital of the Israeli-occupied territories in the West Bank is a North African Jew, the Minister of National Security is an Iraqi Kurdish Jew, you never really saw anything like this in America.

>>2768987
In you second paragraph you try to make the point that the settler-colonial state USA is different from Israel in the respect that the former was founded on enlightenment principles while the latter was not. This is false. They were both hypocritically founded on enlightenment principles which were progressive for their time.

The USAs declaration of independence declares that the people of the colonies had the right to fight off their British masters because they violated the principles which they valued: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,". That is
-all men are equal,
-they have inherent rights (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness),
-to secure these rights men form governments which derive their powers the consent of the governed (democracy).

The drafting of the constitution of course excluded any blacks, native Americans and women. Following decades would show the government of the USA betraying all of these high minded (for the time) founding principles (blacks, native Americans and other ethnic minority groups were not equal before the law and were excluded from those inherent rights thus no true democracy existed; native Americans were systematically exterminated). And to the present day, as you are doing now, desperate believers in USA exceptionalism refused to look at reality and instead pointed at various texts to defend the reputation of the USA, and themselves from the cognitive dissonance.

Israels declaration of independence similarly paid lip service to ideas of equal rights for all. Paragraph 13 states: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL … will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2794038
bullet point lists don't work wtf. ah whatever.

>>2769182
Vietnam was to help the French. Post WW2 the U.S has been basically western Europes colonial imperial thrall. Israel being one of the many Euro colonial projects tasked to the U.S. Its no surprised that the breaking up of U.S/Israel relations is also conceding with the deterioration of NATO. I agree with most your post.



 

/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

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>>2794146
Tbf someone said the choice was Socialism or barbarism.

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>>2794162
sister was right

>>2794293
Even then, a barbarian may still be a noble savage, while the patricians are strategically hostile to the lower orders

>>2794306
trve its time to return to monke



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Can you retards stop replying to obvious weird bait threads.
Like holy shit its the most obvious shit too, its always a specific loser doing it too.

>words words words words words
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There is an ingress of newfags due to the decline of 4chan, the /leftypol/ vanguard must be ready to ridicule posters who lower the quality of discourse or watch their forum die slowly

>>2793094
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>>2793082
Why doesn't /leftypol/ make a xenforo forum, we would be able to identify specific posters that are retarded and probably expand the amount of people on the site, and in actual good ways.


>>2793080
if you would please consult the mp4

<just le don't respond!!
You know they will respond retard. Go blame the jannies for lack of moderation and steadfast refusal to ban the most problematic users instead.



 

So, it appears that despite the most common assumptions, labour "aristocratic"/well paid workers can and have been notable partecipants in the class struggle, everywhere from Italy to Chile and from the UK to South Africa

> The most important counter-example is the Russian working class in the early 20th century. The backbone of Lenin’s Bolsheviks (something he was most definitely aware of) were the best paid industrial workers in the Russian cities – skilled machinists in the largest factories. Lower paid workers, such as the predominantly female textile workers, were generally either unorganized or apolitical (until the beginnings of the revolution) or supported the reformist Mensheviks.


> German Communism became a mass movement when tens of thousands of well-paid metal workers left the Independent Socialists and joined the Communists in 1921. The French and Italian Communists also became mass parties through the recruitment of thousands of machinists who led the mass strikes of the postwar period. These highly paid workers were also overrepresented in the smaller Communist parties of the United States and Britain.


> In Chile between 1970 and 1973, and Argentina between 1971 and 1974, copper miners and metal workers engaged in industrial struggles and took the lead in mass mobilizations against the military and the right. In Brazil, it was the well-paid metal workers in the suburbs of San Paolo who led mass strikes in the 1970s that created the CUT


> it was the highest paid Black workers in South Africa – in mining, auto, steel – whose struggles in the 1970s created the radical and militant FOSATU trade union confederation.


https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/atc/129.html
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>>2792212
thoughts on Giovani Palestinesi d’Italia ??

are they campists or aristocrats?

>>2792555
>They didn't have their stomachs ripped open and their unborn children crushed underfoot.

if only someone had ripped your mother's "stomach" open and crushed you underfoot we wouldn't be reading this drivel

if you really want to be a part of some kind of leftist revolution you're going to have to figure out how to achieve permanent ego death and deprogram your brain of all the sexist, racist, classist, ableist, etc. nonsense that the capitalist system has instilled into you, otherwise you're just going to be a confused weak poseur and you will only get in the way.

>>2792555
>>2793994
the question is not of who's oppressed or ideological programming

>>2787199
>A death bourg is always a good thing, unless you are a fucking classcuck
Had the developing Turkish bourgeoisie been defeated in the 1920s, would that have been good or bad? What about the French bourgeoisie during 1789? What about the Chinese national bourgeoisie during the 1930s? Would their defeat had been a good or bad thing?

>>2786991
>legitimizing the Israeli destruction of all of Iranian society, including its bourgeoisie.
Total war fantasy that's not gonna happen



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Private sector "innovations" are almost entirely hype and bullshit and exaggerated claims and continuously finding worse and worse ways to reinvent the wheel and devotion to nothing but short term profit from venture capital, zillions of dollars devoted into things like AI chatbots to replace human labor with inferior slop, cryptocurrency pump and dump scams, ridesharing companies that make taxis and delivery services that charge customers more and pay drivers less, anti-aging drugs that will never work, actually useful drugs being repurposed into cosmetic drugs, renewable energy technologies that will never work, space exploration projects that will never pan out, electric cars that are so overpriced and shitty that we had to enact massive tariffs to stop Americans from buying cheaper better ones from China, smarthome technology that nobody wants or needs except bored millionaires, cars and electronic devices deliberately designed to break early and be unrepairable to increase sales volume, life-saving pharmaceuticals locked behind patents for decades and price gouged to exploit the sick and dying.

The one thing I am looking forward to at this point is when this "innovation" finally backfires in the worst possible way, like when China starts using their reverse-engineered clones of US AI models to utterly destroy the concept of intellectual property forever, when every software patent and pharma patent and trade secret can be reverse-engineered by anyone at the press of a button and the secret inner workings of absolutely everything we manufacture instantly becomes public knowledge and can be sold as a perfect generic clone at a fraction of the price, courts overwhelmed with more lawsuits than they could ever possibly settle with, tariffs and trade restrictions and economic sanctions desperately trying to undo what cannot be undone, the private r&d industry losing all incentive to come up with the next patentable marketable bullshit idea and closing up shop, tech innovation returning to the domain of the public sector where it belongs.
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>>2793572
it's not "bullshit" it serves a purpose: protecting the ruling class.
>>2793574
>vaguepost king quotes nobody and responds to no args

>>2793575

meaning != purpose. meaning is the "why", the rationale and intellectual significance of the idea, purpose is the "what", the actionable goals of the idea.

the idea of intellectual property has always had plenty of purposes, but in my opinion it never really had any meaning, any rational basis - the idea that information can be a form of privately owned property has always been bullshit, a nonsensical and unrealistic idea.

the only reason we were able to treat information as property is because of technological limitations that made information difficult to encode/copy/modify/transmit/etc., but as i described, these technological limitations do not last. intellectual property makes unrealistic demands of reality and reality is refusing to accommodate them. that is why it is bullshit.

>>2793606
> but in my opinion it never really had any meaning, any rational basis
for the ruling class, protecting their own class position is a perfectly rational basis, even if the tools they used to do that appear irrational to everyone but themselves

>>2793692

well if we are going to preserve our sanity and live in rational objective reality we have to refrain from internalizing the irrationality and solipsism of the ruling class, even doing it inadvertantly through careless use of language

>>2793575
and is merely a debate addict



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might be silly to ask users of an inherently hobbyist shitposting forum to confront its hobbyism in their movement but maybe this will pull some people out of the vicious cycle of the Four Opportunists.
https://clarion.unity-struggle-unity.org/2026-04-22-combat-hobbyism/
https://clarion.unity-struggle-unity.org/2026-04-16-social-reproduction-revisionist-party/
https://clarion.unity-struggle-unity.org/2026-03-24-against-settler-socialism-lessons-minneapolis/

Fine i'll read it.

RCI won btw

>>2793750
that makes fascism an ancient concept since art has existed for as long as we know
but your statement is simply not true, you just hate nice things because you're a disguising faggot with no skills

>>2793754
is conlanging fascistic too?

>thread immediately devolved into circlejerk of b8ers
why did i ever use this website
fuckin' SAGE

>>2793763
sorry. i will read first and maybe second of your links tomorrow.
but maybe you should elaborate your post a bit more if you want people to engage with it. what do you want us to do after we read it? to comment it? what exactly? what is your opinion? et caetera…



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“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2760901
The deep state are the ones who elect the judges however.

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>>2761749
the right has always been a sham
from around 1649-1789, it was primarily concerned with the interests of the aristocracy and arbitrarily conserving power. it had no intellectual theory of its own, while the left completely dominated all relevant areas of culture and politics. after 1789, the right was complacent with regulating the aristocracy politically, but also regulating trade to benefit them economically, such as with the corn laws of england, 1815-46 (enacted under the tories) which artificially rose prices so that british landlords could derive greater profits from their sale. Marx also speaks on how the Acts of Union (1801) with Ireland was a conspiracy to create a landed aristocracy in ireland and mass immigration into England (causing immense competition amongst labourers, as Engels notes in 1848 and Marx speaks on in 1869). This Act was also issued by the Tories. The right then in this era, were not at all loyal to the common man, and never have been. After 1900, you get the Labour Party, the first socialist party in Britain, and so the Tories (now conservatives) make these their main enemy. In 1926, there was a general strike in protest of mining companies attempting to lower wages; the resolve of the Conservative government was simply to make general strikes illegal. This led to the election of Ramsay Macdonald, the first labour PM, from 1929-35. After WW2 we get the celebrated welfare state due to the work of Clement Attlee (who also opposed the EEC, or EU, while conservatives promoted inclusion and eventually put the UK in the EU). During the 60s and 70s we get the "new right" in continental europe and the anglosphere. In the anglosphere it is about free market economics, with reactionary cultural values (now, as it will be clear, liberal values come from liberal economics, so it is already a paradox). At the same time, "free market" just means selling public assets off to the highest bidder and exporting national industry to foreigners, creating mass unemployment and dependence on the state (the descent of places in the US like Detroit are entirely synonymous with the exportation of industry, creating welfare slaves who fall into crime - this evidently stains not only racial underclasses but also deindustrialised regions in general). This period (often termed "neoliberalism") passes from around 1979-1989 with Reagan and ThatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2616361
I support Elon Musk getting shot in an alleyway like that bank cuck Luigi shot
Even though frankly that's too good for him. He needs Epstein levels of shit done to his stupid ass, a broken bone for every banned Twitter account when he to this day says he's all about free speech. I'm not even mad about the twitter accounts themselves, but the lack of efficiency where when he bought twitter, he could have for a fraction of it sued tech companies and completely rewritten the law code and held websites more liable in practice. Like this shit hole has mods, and with all the CP posts on Siberia, guess whose liable? But isn't it funny how rebellious youths and feds can post child porn on some backwoods image board with like 200 people, but can't on Twitter or reddit.

Pic semi related as wrong killer but they're all based

>>2771694
I think you'd want the institutes of Justinian or something similar.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5983/5983-h/5983-h.htm

>>2771766
That's the one.



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In my view, all ideologies can be compressed in these 12:

radical left:
anarchism
communism

moderate left:
social-democracy
social liberalism

moderate right:
libertarianism
conservatism

radical right:
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>>2789515
This is why nobody likes egoists

>The 'middle' between 100 billion and $0 net worth is actually $50,000

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This is the true political compass

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>muh ideology shop

>>2793055
I want pet frog

>>2789555
Trips of truth, but no one here is willing to accept it and start getting practical.



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Why are the bourgeoisie so unapologetically evil? I know this is a stupid question but its hard for me to fathom how a human being could be as malicious and uncaring as the bourgeoisie are. Do they not care at all for the suffering they cause humanity, and the destruction they bring to the planet as a whole? Or do they delusionally believe that what they are doing is somehow in the right?
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Diddy blvds

>>2702562
its in their interest, and the entire ideological and cultural background of society is made to justify it

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/you-will-be-caught-ten-year-ban-for-sydney-s-highest-earning-real-estate-agent-20260402-p5zl29.html

"Josh Tesolin, the former star Ray White real estate agent who banked more than $9 million in commissions last financial year, has been slapped with a decade-long ban from the industry.

The penalty, which also include fines totalling $33,000, is one of the harshest imposed by the industry regulator in recent years. It comes on the back of a three-year investigation that unearthed findings that he engaged in sustained unlawful, improper and dishonest conduct on more than 100 property transactions."

A relative. When you can win this hard even in a country like Australia by being a crook, why wouldn't you feel like you deserve it?

>>2702562
capitalism selects for the most sociopathic specimens because they worship dead labor most effectively and without moral scrutiny or self-reflection. most bougies aren't even super evil as much as they are npcs with elevated egos

You say this than simp for Hasan Piker and Billy Elish

The bourgeoisie is most moral according to contemporary moralism (bourgeois)



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