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Hice un ensayo para un concurso, como casi no sé ni lo que es un ensayo quiero que me digan que tal está. Soy muy joven asique disculpen si está mal redactado, aparte de que no he leído mucho. Espero que les guste

Tienes ganas de aprender, pero la forma de redactar se siente informal, tampoco tiene bibliografía ni trata de explicar la economía en detalle. ¿Qué edad tienes? Sin ofender, pero parece una redacción escrita por un chaval en bachillerato.

Y otra cosa, en este board solo se permite el inglés, así que probablemente tirarán este hilo. Si quieres discutir con otros hispanohablantes, usa /latam/ mejor. Pero me alegro de encontrar a otro español aquí

You have to cite each fact. Not just throw it at the end in bibliography. Also, a good intellectual excercise would be to challenge your ideas. With your knowledge about political economy, marxism and the history of the UUSR you could make a critique of the USSR and the decissions it took.



 

I've made a fascinating discovery. Leftypol, or rather its users, have direct power to influence the output of AI services. I've been spamming Leftypol with my hot takes a lot over the past few weeks, and voila: they're appearing in Grok and Perplexity!

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/85ab939d-16f5-40e4-9a51-348bc0161bae

https://leftypol.org/meta/res/37383.html#q44572
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>>2795286

This is what revisionists imagine maoists discussions to be like

>>2794589
>ai scrapes the web for user takes
this has been know for years. how is this an insight that warranted its own thread? might as well have put this in /isg/

>>2795403
the original post was made to satire leninhat, as was the video, which was made with elevenlabs rather than really voice acted


Nu uh



 

>isolate the allies to the point Armenian has no other choices to appeasement of EU
>threaten le Denazification of Armenia

Russia really needs better leadership at this point, his brain got destroyed after COVID and mismanagement of Ukraine war.
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>>2828073
Lobotomy, the party

>>2827948
It is a ticking time bomb because Putin is beginning to do arrests of communists including KPRF members and as >>2827755 align more with the LDPR to counter them. It is going to backfire because it shows the Communists are getting persecuted for things the workers want and will increasingly radicalized the populous. It is why they are attempting to rehabilitate Stalin but even Lenin is seeing skyrocketing rise in his approvals as well. Putin is between a rock and a hard place on what the next move is to please the national bourgeois and not have October 2.0 happen

Part of being a Russian leader is keeping Russians poor. It keeps them on their toes.

Why is this dude in power in the first place? And why hasnt the military or national bourgeoisie overthrown him already?

>>2828162
the cucktin narrative may mislead you to believe he is not useful to the national bourgeoisie, but the concentration of wealth in the russian economy is proceeding well so they have no reason to mind him



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Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
I thouht the proles were supposed to be in charge? Did ML's lie to me? I dont believe it.
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>>2825545
This is just kvetching and fake news made up by Zionists to justify their immigration to Israel. Jews in the USSR were treated no differently than anyone else.

>>2824564
>an armored vehicle
It was a tank, just call it a tank. They also killed around 1000 people, iirc.

>>2825545
I thought the Soviet Union was a Judeo-Bolshevist plot to kill Christians…

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>Yeah the hardliners tried to coup the government and failed.
They weren't "hardliners". They were Gorbachev's own handpicked men. And there are theories, that Gorbachev himself was behind it, and others, that Kryuchkov [the main ring leader] had a secret deal with Yeltsin.

The referendum was to update the USSR in a new union of independent and free republics, not to keep the USSR as it was



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I am unable to remember the exact place i discovered this but its pretty obvious from just class warfare in general.

At some point we are probably gonna see Luddite riots and bombings against ai development, we are already partially seeing it.
What is the material reasons for this and can anybody find an example?
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>>2826495
But if clerical tasks are already accomplished by smaller local models, is there really a point to the data centers? Tangentially, I think massive investment deposited into centralized data centers is halting development of AI elsewhere e.g. local inference models, so even if someone concludes that LLMs are productive you steal need to account for the particular mode of "compute distribution" being a productive net loss

It happened

Revive

>>2825685
>and they blame technology, not capitalism
oh no, the original luddites absolutely blamed the social relations that led to their livelihood being destroyed by the tech more than the tech itself, but its way easier to destroy a machine than the socio-economic system you're in, and so they destroyed the machines to extract concessions



 

Is it fair to say that most of the culture wars that take place in American politics are merely fights between the petite-bourgeoisie (small business owners) and the PMC?

The ruling class doesn't seem to care about the cultural bullshit since they're not really affected by it. Likewise, the working-class doesn't care about cultural issues all that much either and really only cares about short-term economic stuff like the price of gas. Many of the conservative cultural attributes that are thrown on to the working-class are actually the traits of the petit-bourg (being anti-abortion and anti-queer, for instance).

Right now, in the era of social media, it seems like culture wars and "symbolic crusades" are at an all-time high. Interestingly though, much unlike the culture wars of the 80s-2000s which were lead by the right, these contemporary culture wars seem to be mostly lead by snarky white liberals who overwhelmingly make up the PMC. Take, for instance, something like the backlash against Olivia Rodrigo's babydoll dress: for decades liberals pushed "choice feminism" and told people to stop attacking what women wear, yet now seem very concerned about what women wear. Olivia's dress is an issue for them because they associate it with pedophillia, which of course they link to Trump and Epstein (never mind the fact Olivia is a proud liberal herself who works with Planned Parenthood and pro-Palestine organizations). On an almost identical note, multiple liberal women have raised hysteria over big retail chains like Target and Nordstrom selling milkmaid dresses, calling it "tradwife coded" and saying it's indicative that women's civil rights will be taken away. Obviously, this is bullshit. How could something as petty as a milkmaid dress destroy the decades of feminist struggles in America? We also see this very clearly with the "clean girl" aesthetic being demonized as right-wing or "eugenics-coded" with the heavy makeup/blue eyeshadow look being championed for being (allegedly) progressive. For a leftist, all of these things are simply a case of consumer identity vs. consumer identity.

But that's not the point. The real issue in these contemporary examples is that snarky liberal white women fear the decline of their social and cultural status. Jill from Manhattan is mad that Fynnleigh the Mormon tradwife has more TikTok followers than her, even though what Fynnleigh does in her home in Utah has no effect whatsoever on Jill. Women's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2827235
How does this analysis square with the fact that even university educated types in Europe are increasingly voting far-right after enough contact with problematic immigrants from Africa and Middle-East? The same people who used to vote for centre-left and centre-right parties are switching to populist right and far right by the millions.

>>2827274
  1. Because there are many factors at play: there are some educated people with no taste, for example.
  2. Centrist parties have generally been incompetent and self-destructive
  3. The center right also tends to appeal to uneducated types. 58% of Germans with only "basic education" voted CSU (32) or AFD (26) vs 40 with higher education (27 CSU, 13 AFD), and I chose Germany at random as an unsympathetic example. (The UK is a total victory for this theory)

>>2825988
Very interesting video.

No idea why comrades think it’s worth it to get involved so heavily in petty cultural bullshit.

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>>2827709
The superstructure reflects the material base. The trouble is that people don't get into the underlying material factors driving culture.

IMO contemporary politics have largely been driven by the slow proletarianization of white-collar jobs which is increasingly putting the cultural hegemony of capitalists into crisis. The reactionary shift is a temporary measure as reformism has ceased to satisfy the masses.



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Atlanticism is literally the Ruscism of the West, and Fehlingerism and Schwabism are the Duginism of the West.

meow. meow. meow. meow.

Should've added anti fascism and multiliberaism to that

You play too much hoi4 tfr

>>2824701
for "allahu akbar"
for "God is great" wtf does this even mean ? The equivalent to the others is the "Ummah" or maybe the caliphate.



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>The Urning [book by K. H. Ulrichs] you sent me is a very curious thing. These are extremely unnatural revelations. The paederasts are beginning to count themselves, and discover that they are a power in the state. Only organisation was lacking, but according to this source it apparently already exists in secret. And since they have such important men in all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rosing to Schweitzer, they cannot fail to triumph. Guerre aux cons, paix aus trous-de-cul [war on the cunts, peace to the arse-holes] will now be the slogan. It is a bit of luck that we, personally, are too old to have to fear that, when this party wins, we shall have to pay physical tribute to the victors. But the younger generation! Incidentally it is only in Germany that a fellow like this can possibly come forward, convert this smut into a theory, and offer the invitation: introite [enter], etc. Unfortunately, he has not yet got up the courage to acknowledge publicly that he is ‘that way’, and must still operate coram publico‘ from the front’, if not ‘going in from the front’ as he once said by mistake. But just wait until the new North German Penal Code recognises the droits du cul [rights of the arse-hole] then he will operate quite differently. Then things will go badly enough for poor frontside people like us, with our childish penchant for females. If Schweitzer could be made useful for anything, it would be to wheedle out of this peculiar honourable gentleman the particulars of the paederasts in high and top places, which would certainly not be difficult for him as a brother in spirit.
Letter from Friedrich Engels to Karl Marx, June 22, 1869
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idpol slide thread

>>2827341
>If Schweitzer could be made useful for anything, it would be to wheedle out of this peculiar honourable gentleman the particulars of the paederasts in high and top places, which would certainly not be difficult for him as a brother in spirit.
Image of Karl Marx trying to recruit the first socialist elected to parliament in Europe (who was gay) to spy on othe socialists (who were also gay)

Oh wait that was Engels nm

>>2827611
I read OP like three times, Engels doesn’t sound hostile to Ulrichs unless I’m missing some sarcasm or context. Saying “ thank god me and Marx are too old to assfuck” is a pretty typical straight guy joke.

>>2827341
Engels was fucking hilarious, this is quality comedic writing
>war on the cunts, peace to the arse-holes
>rights of the arse-hole
Why am I picturing Milo Yiannopoulos?



 

I know that Western investment in the third world can be anti-imperialist and AES but what about IMF loans???
I thought Based China was going to wholesomely develop Africa's productive forces for free, what the FUCK is this??
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>>2827833
ML stands for Military LARP

>>2827841
I thought it stood for Moderate Leftism?

>>2827841
>>2827980
No, it stands for Massively Logical.

>>2827841
It stands for Moronic Liberal actually

>>2827832
Indeed, one might even say that it's so low that it's a nothingburger and this was a stupid gotcha thread that isn't based on anything meaningful.



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In 2024, somebody posted a clip of a somebody making the point that a trans woman whi didn’t disclose their gender transition status before having sex with a man was being deceptive and thus was raping him, which some leftists found to be controversial: https://xcancel.com/secondbyfarce/status/1852772181073445357

Some here may find the position of the guy in the video to be disconcerting and triggering, but within the context of consent in sexual intimacy, he is right since he is merely applying the logic of rape-as-lack-of-consent to its logical conclusion.

Because let’s face it: Consent, as pointed out by figures such as Harry Hay and Michel Foucault, is just liberal contract theory as applied to sex, and a contract is made void if you enter under it under false pretenses, and let’s not pretend that contracts are made in a vacuum, as whether a contract is or isn’t valid isn’t a neutral judgement made by an impartial figure, as much as being done by the powers that be (e.g., the state) under dominant or bourgeois cultural diktats.
So unless you think consent shouldn’t be absolute when it comes to sexual relations, then a trans woman having sex with a cishet man without disclosing “her” pre-transition gender is rape as much as sex by deception is rape, and neither are criminalised even in the most feminist countries like Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, the USA, Canada, Australia, the UK, and France. So what does it say about consent theory if not even the most feminist countries on Earth criminalised sex by deception as rape?

Then of course, there’s the issue of the AoC, a draconian and absolutist bourgeois piece of legislation used by the capitalist bourgeoisie to morally discipline the working class into anti-proletarian bourgeois morality since the days of William T Stead’s infamous yellow press journalism. In this case, a person under the magic age line cannot (legally) consent to sex with someone above the magic age line. Common idealist talking points often allude to an inconsistent and arbitrary notion of “mental maturity” that is heavily subjective depending on who uses it, whilst obfuscating the meat of the issue: It’s not that people below the magic age line are incapable of being willing sexual and/or romantic partners, it’s just that the state decided that the magic age line makes the willingness of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

It really seems like you are leaning on age of consent being a class-related thing, somehow, to justify pedophilia. I'm not saying that's what you are doing, OP, but it really seems like you are really pushing the edge of idpol bullshit right now. Do you or do you not want to fuck children. Let's just clear that up real quick and avoid any vagueness. I will quote you directly to free myself of bias:


>the issue of the AoC, a draconian and absolutist bourgeois piece of legislation used by the capitalist bourgeoisie to morally discipline the working class into anti-proletarian bourgeois morality since the days of William T Stead’s infamous yellow press journalism


I gave you the benefit of the doubt OP, now explain yourself.

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TELL ME ABOUT THE AGE OF CONSENT POSTER! WHY DOES HE USE THE VPN?

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>>2827923
While I respect the effort you put into this dialectic I have to say you did not answer my question whatsoever.



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