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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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>>2856475
what put him on the map is his uncle is chunk yogurt of the young turks, also he dated porn stars

>>2856098
>u sure bout that? cuz hasan said blah blah blah
your random example doesn't mean anything statistically significant
>>2856415
part of getting a lot of attention is being a narcissist and this guy's job is to get attention and give attention to the things giving him attention

>>2856415
>streamer is a narcissist
I mean isn't it practically a requirement of the job? put yourself on camera and yap for hours, gotta have a significant ego or you probably wouldn't bother doing it except as a hobby

Looks the dirtbag left LEFT to get the BAG ($$$).

>>2856792
Don't go into debt for your daddy who doesnt know you exist now. gl bud



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If you think about it…

The ACP is basically all the worst parts of CPUSA combined into a single reactionary party that exists to cry about all the other orgs, coup subreddits, support the petitie-bourgesisie, and be transphobic.

>flood
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>>2856417
Western "marxists" be like:
"I disagree with this national socialist party on many points, especially the mysticism and larp, but the fascism part is valid"

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>>2855647
>>2856367
>>2856369
>A Menshevik, eurocom and Marcyite walk into a bar…
You lack complexity and demonstrate naivite. The following quantitative methodology thread will help improve your material analysis, for you are missing connections as demonstrated by your sentences.
Read in full before replying: >>2758817

The worst part of the CPUSA is that they are loyal slaves of the Democrats and you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.

>>2856369
>PSL
I used to think so to but they pussied out big time by condemning the SMO in Ukraine.

>>2856375
>infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside
What "leftism" in America exists to infiltrate you fucking retard? Your shitty little Twitter clique? Your subreddit? Name even one organization that matters, that has achieved anything in half a century. There is nothing to destroy.

>>2856569
>how is babby formed?

>>2856569
u jus big mad that ppl dont take you seriosuly cuz why tf would they



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‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom reported that the first site will open in Tel Sultan, near Rafah, “within weeks”, and house civilians “with no weapons or affiliation with Hamas”. It added that the zone will be policed by a “multinational force”, known as the International Stabilisation Force (ISF), which will be equipped with “non-lethal weapons” and operate from the Israeli Amitai Camp near Gaza under the command of the board. According to the report, while aid and temporary housing will be supplied to the areas, Board of Peace officials have pledged not to import concrete into Gaza.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trumps-board-peace-launch-hamas-free-shelters-while-israel-tightens-grip-gaza

Turkey eases job rules for 1M+ Syrians under temporary protection
Turkey introduced a work permit requirement for Syrians under temporary protection in 2016. Under the initial rules, employers were allowed to hire one Syrian worker for every 10 Turkish employees, a quota that was later eased to one Syrian worker for every five Turkish employees. Refugee rights groups have long said that work permit requirements prompted widespread informal employment among Syrians, many of whom work in sectors such as agriculture, textiles, construction, manufacturing and services.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2026/06/turkey-eases-job-rules-1m-syrians-under-temporary-protection-what-know

Morocco: Rights group says 'face' of Gen Z protests Zineb Kharroubi's suspended sentence 'worrying'
The Moroccan Association for Human Rights (AMDH) said Zineb Kharroubi's six-month suspended sentence for her activism during the youth-led protests last year "forms part of a wider trend of increasing prosecutions targeting young people engaged in the peaceful exercise of their fundamental rights," in a statement to The New Arab.
https://www.newaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thank you based news anon,

Tybna

I created a visualization of the 577 people George Washington held in chattel slavery at Mt Vernon

https://erikhoudini.com/577

>>2856197
Uh I think you mean the 577 underprivileged urban youths he provided internships for

>>2856165
>‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
So what's the leftypol righist cope patrol's line on these countries joining the BoP under literal "chairman for life" Trump?
· Vietnam (Ae Ea Ss!1)
· Belarus (need I say more)
· Kazakhstan (leftypol loved when they shot the strikers)
· Cambodia (Vietnam is responsible)
? The silence is so loud it's hilarious



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What’s with the hate on Japan about xenophobia. WW2 hate is valid, but hating them for immigration is stupid if you don’t criticise China on it.

If you gonna hate Japan for that then you have zero idea how strict China is.


>Xenophobia Japan

/leftypol/: NUKE JAPAN
>Xenophobia China
/leftypol/: Well actually….
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>>2855832
what are you going to do about it, baizuo?

>>2855835
Call you out on your hypocrisy

The difference is that one nation is fascist and the other is steadfast in proletarian internationalism. Hope this helps

>>2855795
And to think Logo Daedalus constantly tells his followers that the Chinese are all well-read on William Blake and how the PRC is le Christian country.

Although China is facing severe population decline, its current absolute labor force and total population are still incredibly large. So unlike Japan or some European countries, China doesn't have an urgent need to open its doors and attract foreign low-skilled laborers. Therefore, China's immigration policy won't see any fundamental changes in the short term. You might think China lacks diversity, but that's probably just a stereotype - there are plenty of Tibetans and Uyghurs, and while they're a tiny fraction of the huge Han population, they still make up a significant group



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Obviously if we were in charge of government there would be a variety of options but what can we personally do right now to prevent the monthly mass shooting done by some neo-nazi. This cannot keep happening. Surely there must be something we can do.
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We send rightists to the gulags so we can re-educate them. If they don't change, gas them

>>2846515
redirect it against piggies

>>2846581
If you read the shooting as anything less than a miscalculation from some illiterate dipshit. I'd question your sanity and your integrity as a human being.

>>2851494
the best way to win a game of chicken is to throw your steering wheel out the window and make sure the other guy sees you do it

>>2851729
faggot



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The following analysis of structural coercion and surplus extraction holds entirely true even if the classical Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is mathematically false. Whether the ultimate price of a commodity is determined by socially necessary labor time or subjective marginal utility, the physical reality of the power dynamic remains unchanged. Surplus extraction is a function of material leverage, not the metaphysical origin of economic value.

1. Ownership is a Survival Bottleneck
<The capitalist does not participate in value creation merely through ownership; they control a physical bottleneck. They gatekeep the tools, infrastructure, and resources required to produce a livelihood. Because the owning class has historically enclosed the means of production as private property, the worker cannot survive independently. They are physically forced to approach the capitalist to secure the means of their own survival.

2. The Contract is Structural Extortion
<Because the worker's alternative to employment is homelessness and starvation (structural coercion), the negotiation is absolutely asymmetrical. The capitalist dictates the terms: "I will allow you access to my tools to earn your survival, but only if you surrender a significant portion of the value you generate to me." The worker must comply. This is not a voluntary transaction; it is extortion backed by biological necessity.

3. Surplus is a "Survival Tax
<Regardless of how prices are set on the market, the mathematical difference between the revenue the worker's output generates and the wage they receive is siphoned by the owner. This surplus is not a legitimate reward for "time preference" or "risk," as mainstream economics insists. It is a survival tax, a toll the worker pays for the right to remain alive. The capitalist can collect this tax exclusively because state violence (police and property laws) protects their monopoly over the means of production.

Materialist Conclusion
<Surplus extraction is a pure metric of power. It calculates exactly how much material wealth the owning class can squeeze from the producing class using the structural threat of starvation, stopping just short of triggering mass dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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OP hasnt read capital. thats not what the labour theory of value is, thats just what online ancaps think the labour theory of value is.
no muh mudpie is not a valid argument, no marx did not deny supply and demand, no marx did not deny that there are multiple factors that determine the prices of commodities

read the actual fucking book

>>2855223
Can you actually make an argument how it follows that, "if you did not have diminishing returns for labour (…) there would be no profit". Your original claim, now quoted at you for the third time.

>>2856161
I'm not the anon making nonsense claims about profit requiring diminishing returns from labour

>>2854445
shit, an ai thread and anons arent even noticing. its fucking over lol, its been dead the last few months tbh

>>2856465
Literally said in first reply:
>sounds very LLMish tbh
Second reply:
>Thank you for your ChatGPT revisionism



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<low autism score
>hurr durr Stalin was le bloodthirsty dictator equivalent to le Hitler because my western propaganda slop book said so!

<midwit autism score

>well akshually muh kulaks muh socialism in one country muh defeated the nazis *quotes Losurdo* so therefore Stalin based!!1!

<high autism score:


Stalin was a bloodthirsty counterrevolutionary dictator who ruined the legacy of socialism and led to the downfall of the USSR. "Socialism in one country" goes strictly against basic Marxist doctrine that socialism needs an international foundation. The show trials and purges were injust sate-sanctioned assassinations of actual old bolshevik revolutionaries, completely gutting any notion of actual socialism in the USSR. The collapse of the USSR was the natural endpoint of a bureaucratic caste that had long since abandoned any connection to the international working class.

tl;dr Trotsky was right
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GIGA AUTISM SCORE:
I like Stalin, he tuff.

>>2856152
>"Socialism in one country" goes strictly against basic Marxist doctrine that socialism needs an international foundation.

ever heard of the comintern buddy. socialism in one country was not meant to be a permanent state of affairs but a hunkering down after the german revolution failed

Socialosm on one country: bad
Workerism in one empire: good
Western leftist logic

>>2856234
>look inside
>99% theoryslop
don't care

>>2856245
It's clear you haven't read Lenin or misread him intentionally if you characterize his intentions for the socialist movement as coalescing around one country. You might as well just come out as a fascist and be done with falsifying Marxism instead of quotemining to twist his words. ᴉuᴉlossnW can teach you a lot more about what you want to achieve (if anything at all)



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What happened to Trump's freedom cities, and other techno-feudist projects?
Trump in 2023 made a promise to build 13 new cities where there would be near-zero environmental or labor regulations, effectively giving corporations their own fiefdoms.

This project as of 2026 has been stalled and instead trump is obsessed with his ballroom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Cities
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>>2849421
I'll admit I'm not the biggest understander of it but even assuming it's not trve AI and can never be (I've read some smart people posit this before), is it really truly incapable of running manufacturing operations after porky pours every single cent on them? I feel like that's very unlikely.

I'm not talking about the free chatbots you can use to shitpost online, but the actual made-for-purpose bid budget boys.
I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

>>2849440

Remember that time thunderf00t autistically hyperfocused on one weird person to the exclusion of all else for literal years and made 500 videos about them just repeating the same bullshit with the same clips over and over?

Remember that time thunderf00t autistically hyperfocused on women in science crying too much so he publicly debated this guy Phil from sixty symbols on the topic of women being worse scientists?

What if trump built trumpland

Elon Musk has a secret black site in Texas where he's doing brain surgery for neuralink.

>I found a facility that Travis County thinks is a ranch. The EPA has never visited it, not once in five years, even though it sits on the Colorado River in a watershed that feeds Austin's drinking water. The animals being used there are registered to a UPS Store mailbox in Fremont, California. And yet the state environmental agency doesn't call it a ranch. It calls it a Commercial Research Facility. One where over 600 animals have undergone brain surgery.


>And then on March 31, 2026, Neuralink's General Counsel signed a new LLC into existence at that address. It's called Neuralink Surgery Center LLC. There is no surgery center license on file in Texas.


>This is the company that wants inside your skull.


>The full investigation: thedreydossier.substack.com

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They literally can’t even get rural communities to both work and be ancap, how would it work for any large metropolitan area?



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On contradictions mao talks about there being a progressive bourgesisie, a bourgesisie thats good and helped the shift from the chinese feudal mode of production to capitalist mode of production and thus allowing a socialist mode.

Yes its confusing and i don't get it even after reading it because i don't think he understoon dialects.
But it makes me think, today is there a progressive bourgesisie in america? I thought the CEOs of ben and jerrys were good until they were ousted, and also buckyies.
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Honestly, being a feudal peasant probably wasn't all that bad

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>>2855279
Ehh among the problems of such an underdeveloped country is the periodic massive famines. Also the treatment of girls is like whut. You mean this guy had to sell his kid into sex slavery to his landlord because he inherited his grandparents' debts and the local pawn broker (i.e. mobster) who is in cahoots with that guy will break your legs if you don't. The Red Detachment of Women is a 60s propaganda piece but it depicts runaway slave girls in kill-a-mother-fucker mode. A lot of these people got lynched IRL by crowds of angry peasants.

>>2855279
And Other Opinions Of The Utterly Insane





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Multipolarsisters? How could this happen? I thought random third-world dictator number #387499 was going to be the one to finally defeat the west? This guy was supposed to be finally be the one too! As they say the 99999th times the charm.
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>>2855517
he kicked out the french army and nationalized a bunch of shit like mines and stuff. what more do expect him to do?

>>2854219
its pretty funny how the glowies imperialists have to make up those ridiculous strawmen and missing the point gotchas to whine about an historic shift against the US empire. They are quite obviously too dumb to even understand what the multipolaristas position actually is

>>2855517
France yes,America no, why would he ? America is still totally in favor of neo colonies of Europe becoming independant and trading with them instead,unlike say any country in the Pacific ocean being anything but their bitch

>>2855744
>he kicked out the french army and nationalized a bunch of shit like mines and stuff. what more do expect him to do?
Well for starters he should not have positive relations with Israel, Nicaragua cut ties with Israel and Cuba went as far as to withdraw its recognition of Israel as a state. So I don’t see why Burkina Faso can’t do the same.

>>2855754
because they're not socialists. They simply want some basic ass development. Which in context is anti imperialist, but I wouldnt expect them to put their neck out for anyone else beyond the sahel or have any principled position.

>>2855754
>he should not
for your moral reasons or for his strategic reasons

because i promise you he values the latter more than the former

and i dont say that to defend him, just to be realistic



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