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i'm gonna vote for the apple
it's like the blue donkey in america but russian and green and also an apple instead of a donkey

your thoughts comrades
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>>2885987
да утонет и утонет, похуй, новый сделаем. нас здесь аутистов десять точно наберётся на тред, а обсуждать политику этой страны с кем-то кроме /ukr/-зигомётов хочется

>>2885988
У меня нет идей для шапки, так что лучше ты создай тред


ладно, не проголосую

https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/c0qv3qpqv25o

>>2885388
Cute Yuno



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What happens to the party after communism is established? Does anyone believe organizations like the ccp or cpk or anyother communist party in power in a country will just willingly let go of all their power?
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>>2885118
>there aint even any motion at all.
parmenides predicted this

>>2877437
the party never stops bay bee!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Public execution

>>2884898
L'État est parti

>>2884695
>Remove the cause, and the institution becomes obsolete
That is literally the crux of the question. What happens to the Party once it's become obsolete. Saying it "fades away" doesn't answer it.

>>2877437
>What happens to the party after communism is established?
It ceases to become a progressive force, and very likely fights to safeguard its own interests that diverge from those of the proletariats. From then on the solution is to perpetuate class struggle once the DoTP serves no more purpose



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REAL, NOT CLICKBAIT, NOT A DRILL, THE CHICAGO POPE CRACKS DOWN

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-07/holy-see-decrees-excommunication-lefebrians-consecrations.html

As a result of escalating tensions revolving around some unapproved bishop appointments, it's officially happened: the Vatican has declared the tradcath Society of Saint Pius X to be schismatic and therefor not just its bishops but lay practitioners too are excommunicated. While the largest amount of tradcaths tend to congregate in America there's still plenty spread out all over the world. What are the implications of this split? Possible Antipope soon?
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>>2859707
I’ve had some wild experiences on Mushrooms but I don’t think I’ve really had religious ecstasy from it.

TBH I think the “mystical” elements of religion are so completely ignored in modernity that people kind of dismiss what religious thinkers went through with “lol they must’ve been high”

Within the more mystical strains of Judaism, for example (I think you can learn more from studying “Merkevah Mysticism” or “Chariot mysticism”) there were religious/historical figures whose mystical experiences had such a profound effect on themselves that one became a “messiah” contender and disrupted Jewish society by preaching whatever their form of “heresy” is while another allegedly went incurably insane. For many of these people the experiences were so profound that many were willing to die (or, sadly, kill) for their beliefs.

So when these ancient Rabbis talk about seeing the chariot of God and going mad, I think it’s important to know that to many of these people their experiences were profoundly real.

>>2864015
I’m not a Gnostic or a scholar, but I’ve been on a Gnostic text binge lately so if you’ve got questions about Gnosticism contra Catholicism, I can try to answer as best I can.


Liberation Theology BTFO

>>2864085
>Liberation Theology BTFO
>look inside
>refutation from a theological perspective
ugh

>>2859395
>however I genuinely wish the Church made it easier to attend traditional Latin mass; I think its a beautiful thing that kind of falls by the wayside these days.
The Catholic Church is like any other organization with the corporatist drive for uniformity in worship – it's the same with Microsoft and pushing everyone to update to the latest version of Windows. Initially, that was the appeal of the TLM, but now that same drive has thrown off the TLM.
Latin itself was adopted simply because it was at the time the vernacular. I think Latin remained appealing afterwards because a foreign language sounds mysterious and intriguing and draws people in out of curiosity because it is unconventional, but also for its universal application of the Roman Empire.
The Orthodox Church keeps vernacular but the old vernacular becomes an eccelestical language.
A similar trend in English is seen among KJV-onlyists who like the old King James style English and made that a kind of eccelestical language. The nostalgia you see here is really a similar current with KJV-onlyists.



 

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>>2888808
the american left would love her if she became a democrat and said the word "healthcare"

>>2888930
are they really left then


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>>2888925
Normally I would but just got a job at a non-profit that I actually like. Mostly helping people not get evicted.



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Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
I know theres like one group trying but its really just a gang and isnt actually communist
The entire bourgesise goverment has collapsed, theres already a communist party, and even americans are trying to establish colonies in it to rape people, like seriously are you just gonna let a bunch of crackers take over again?

Come on, do something already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haitian_Communist_Party_(Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/21/texas-haiti-rape-indictment?

https://www.blackagendareport.com/challenging-imperialism-communist-party-kenya-stands-solidarity-justice-and-equality-haitian-people
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>>2877812
The reason why emancipation happened in Jamaica etc is partially becase of the Haitian revolution, the most radical elements trickle down and force change

You never let a good crisis go to waste. If you are a leftst in Haiti you should be jumping at the opportunity to do something.

>>2877812
Yes? The Haitian colony was basically everything bad about post-revolution Haiti but with slavery stacked on top, so there wasn't really any loss in freeing themselves anyways.

>>2819423
As for why Haiti never had a proletarian revolution, the answer is that they were never really in a good position too. Haiti throughout most of it's history has mostly been an agrarian nation with little industrialization developing throughout it's lifespan, and industrialization makes workers a lot more class aware because of the relation to their labor and it's exploitation. The Haitian revolution being a bourgeois revolution alongside being a slave revolt probably didn't help either. Combine this with a ruling class who has basically been under the thumb of the US and who were actively stamping down on any serious communist movement in their country and you get a nation where most of the proletariat have very little class consciousness to speak of.

>>2822437
no dumbass

>>2819437
correct answer. thread should have ended here but leftypol has to weigh in with their racist trolling



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Why is nationalism such a powerful force?
Nearly all communists buy into it in some form.
Seems like we cant seem to get rid of no matter what. Why? Whats so special about it?
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>>2888224
>Kant also rationalised war as a progressive force of "perpetual peace", where disputes are resolved by the forced result of a concession.

that's a load of crap. during kant's lifetime europe was in a state of perpetual war and he was insulated from all of it because he was a privileged intellectual, a gentleman scholar. his closest exposure to war was during the seven years war, when his homeland the prussian empire teamed up with the british empire and went to war with the rest of europe, killing about 10% of the entire european peasant population at the time. for a few years the russian army had occupied kant's home city and he and his fellow prestigious academics all immediately betrayed their country and swore allegiance to the russian empress in exchange for being allowed to keep their wealth and their positions. just for comparison, if a peasant soldier in the prussian army even tried to desert he would be forced to slowly walk a gauntlet back and forth between two rows of soldiers caning him on his bare back until he died, but a privileged prussian scholar like kant could publicly swear allegiance to a foreign enemy and it wasn't considered a crime at all, it was just business. this is the kind of person whom we are supposed to revere as one of the brilliant philosophers of our great western culture, this craven powdered-wig fop who lived inside of a plastic bubble totally removed from reality, sitting on ornate furniture writing about war and morality while getting drunk on expensive wine imported from an enemy country. a so-called "world citizen", like these modern-day silicon valley techbros who think that they are outside of everything and have this higher understanding of it all and are totally oblivious of their own tremendous privilege. western people who call themselves leftists really need to do something about their preprogrammed eurocentrism and deification of the historical european intellectual elite, which includes marx and engels. they need to stop internalizing the idea that all of the knowledge of the world comes from the minds of a few great men in europe and a few highly-publicized books, start becoming more mindful of the extreme historical biases in play and the fact that there is a whole other vast universe of knowledge beyond what we are taught in our schools that has always bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2888251
If your family is from genoa it’s easier to bring a girl from Mali to them than a girl from Venice

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>>2888496
Hegel also welcomed the conquest of Prussia by Napoleon because of the illusions of progress. If Hegel's life was immediately threatened, I doubt he would be so enthusiastic. As for Kant himself, he only published his Critique of Pure Reason when he was 57, and so lived a life of leisurely contemplation before then. His ultimate aims for the project of Perpetual Peace was the creation of a global government, such as the United Nations. Liberals in this time also concieved of free trade as a means of ensuring mutual interests, but free trade itself is mostly an imperial interest, so we return to hegemony.

On Kant's politics, I have discovered inconsistencies, where in "Groundwork for the Metaphysic of Morals" (1785) he sees the "moral law" as categorical imperative by practical reason, and so we are made free by the legislative act, presuming the legislative body above the executive branch (e.g. parliament above president). This has continuity in "Perpetual Peace" (1795) where a code of international law is suggested (which before this time there was only the "law of the seas" of Grotius, 1609). This really has precedence in Rousseau, such as in his "Discourse on Political Economy" (1755), where he says that the limit of positive law grants freedom henceforth, similar to Thomas Paine in "Common Sense" (1776), where he defines government as a "necessary evil", and thus a ground for freedom by its constitutive limit. We see in Coke's "Petition of Right" (1628) a cause for the "rule of law"; a sentiment carried on into Enlightenment. Yet, in Kant's other work "Principles of Political Right" (1791) we see that Kant views Sovereignty as the right of executiveship, reversing his apparent Republicanism by favour of monarchy over democracy. Kant's attitude to royalty was always inconsistent, offering praises to the Prince in his first edition of Critique of Pure Reason. He was an opportunist, as you imply. On Kant's class interests, we also see him philosophically justify an idea of intellectual property in his text "Of the Injustice of Counterfeiting Books" (1785). Copyright Law itself was an 18th century invention, with precedence of publishing rights limited in the case of the KJV Bible (1611), which is still in effect today. Kant makes note of the "profit" of unauthorised publishers being owed to authors, and so intertwines morality and monPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2888831
nobody cares larping faggot, now fuck off this board

>>2888840

orrrr?????? nothing you are a fat jewish man with a bald head



 

A little known topic about how the basis of Vietnamesse coffee production came from their socialist era. Trade agreements that benefit the client state are rare and shows how communism can work


Reading like 5 of these pics gave me brain cancer

Thx, op

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>Lenin and Trotsky
Stopped reading there

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kinda looks like engels artstyle, who agrees!?!



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I think America deserves some credit for the minute good it’s done on the world stage, but can any political unit ever even come close to a comparative amount of suffering and death caused? I feel like I don’t even need to go through the atrocities but I mean the USA has directly caused genocides on more continents than they have not… Has any tribe, nation, kingdom, soviet, whatever the fuck term you want to use EVER caused as much real physical harm as the great Satan, America?
Britain? Portugal? Rome? The Khanate? I don’t know if any of them match the amount of real distress and suffering caused, in a utilitarian sense, as the United States has.

No this post has nothing to do with the fact it’s the Fourth of July.
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>>2887759
dare to use the brain now and then

>>2887707
>Stalin, along with Khruschev and Zhukov, made the same statements in private
<Khrushchev attempting to make detente and Stalin trying to squeeze everything out of the western powers.
Lend Lease didn't make the difference between winning the war, it made the difference with how many loses

>>2888238
Do you know what the word "private" means?
They PRIVATELY admitted to their OWN PARTY COMRADES they would’ve lost. Why do you keep inserting appeasing the Allies into this scenario? Are you stupid?
>Khrushchev attempting to make detente
No, dumbass, Khrushchev authored his memoirs in secret after he was overthrown, and he wrote it before detente became official Soviet policy. The only reason we know the memoirs exist is because his son smuggled copies to the US and Western Europe in the 1970s; it was a major political embarrassment for the Soviets at the time.

>>2858900
>I think America deserves some credit for the minute good it’s done on the world stage
like…. what?

>>2888618
defeating imperial japan? Defeating fascist italy? Helping defeat fascist germany?



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revolution in the imperial core is unlikely but highly necessary because there is no stronger imperialist force that can come in from the outside and ruin the revolution. the third world is more immiserated and has had mores successful revolutions, but those revolutions get rolled back by CIA coups, sanctions, bombs, opportunism, revisionism, etc. the opportunism and revisionism is usually a side effect of trying to protect the gains of the revolution from a stronger outside force without being suicidal. the core would not have to do this. they are the strongest force. who's gonna bomb and sanction america if it has a revolution? china? iran? russia? DPRK? Give me a break.
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>>2876565
>so the revolution will only come when TWD happens
this has to be some far right accelerationist trolling leftists trying to get them more racial and hateful lmao

>>2887920
>If you do not destroy the unproductive right-wing parasites you will not develop the productive forces
Revisionist
>If you do not develop the productive forces, you will not have communism
We know, we’re still not doing Dengism
>You want a crisis induced by falling rates of profit but you reject the notion of reducing the profits extracted by rent seekers by subjecting them to competition.
No
>Tell me, anon, why do you love American car dealers so much?
We really don’t

>>2876600
>a homeless in the we$$t kkkan eat heckkkin mcdonald$$!!
Thirdie-neoliberal synthesis

>>2876646
ok this just brings us full circle back to OP which argues that revolution in the imperial core is necessary even though it hasn't happenedy et

>>2876653
That's actually pretty despicable behavior and how you see substance users really tells me a lot about you.



 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clyey5glv4ko
Increased security for England and Argentina tie

<Authorities say there will be increased security measures in place for Wednesday's World Cup semi-final between England and Argentina.


>The pair will resume one of international football's most storied rivalries at the Atlanta Stadium, as England bid to defeat the defending champions and reach their first World Cup final since 1966.


>Atlanta police are aware of historical tensions between the two countries.
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https://kaygreen.blog/2026/08/09/the-alarming-tale-of-the-far-right-bookshop-in-rural-suffolk/
>TERF who edited Glinner's memoir is shocked to find that all their TERF pals support a far-right bookshop
<For many prominent GCs who genuinely started out on the left, it’s clear that hanging out on the right, taking pay cheques from UnHerd, The Critic, Spiked and The Spectator, and knowing they’ll get a sympathetic ear from Julia Hartley-Brewer of Talk TV or Josh Howie of GB News, has meant they end up sounding very like their new right-wing friends. Cheering for Israel and abusing anyone who opposes the genocide of Palestinians has become de rigueur for many vocal GCs.
<When some of them embrace obsessive anti-Muslim racists who happen to be GC, it feels like they’re not doing it despite the Islamophobia, but because of it. This distortion of values doesn’t escape trans rights activists. As one mocked the other day: ‘You could not write a better punchline to the “protect women and girls” TERF academics joke, than them all coming out to eulogise the wife-beating paedophile Rod Liddle.’
<Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology. This is a familiar position, but I would suggest it’s not actually true. Yes, they’ll work with anyone on the right. But if you’re the kind of deranged ‘tankie’ and ‘Hamas apologist’ who thinks it’s bad to shoot Gazan kids in the head for target practice, they don’t want to know you.
they're so close to getting it. (but then go down the blind alley of wanting a new TERF left grouping instead, which will always in the end lead to you the grotesque spectacle of the CPB praising the Supreme Court and British Government.)

>>2890153
>Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology

Every single time lmao, it's like being anti-trans is a brain worm that overrides everything else they supposedly believe in, also why I cringe at "anti-idpol" types

You just know those types of "people" would be bitching about the DDR, not because of anything related to revisionism or anything along those lines but because of their position on trans people

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5th heatwave of the year, 35c summers in the north of England, everything is dead, dry, the lakes are mostly shrivelled up and GONE…
Yes still 2 of the 3 largest political parties straight up deny climate change, and all 3 of them want to open more oil drilling sites.

If anything as it gets hotter, the rate of denial increases.
The Tories of 10 to 20 years ago - despite how abhorrently vile and evil they were in all conceivable ways - at the least acknowledged climate change is real. Can't say that about them under Kemi…




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