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The imperial core practices dysgenics on itself while practicing eugenics on everyone else. Imperialist social democracy will give state services, welfare, and in-home care to the disabled nonverbal person with a developmental and mental disorder so that they don't have to become a worker, while bombing the farmers and workers in third world countries. If you produce food or commodities for the imperialist mouths, they will reward you bombs, sanctions, coups, embargoes. They will rain pesticides down on you. They will practice eugenics on you, killing your old, your disabled, your vulnerable populations. And they will do this while simultaneously protecting those populations in their own country, enabling them to live when in a standard environment they would have died. They will remove all the "useless eaters" from the third world while adding more "useless eaters" to the first. It is baffling. They are literally practicing dysgenics on themselves and eugenics on everyone else. Do they even have a long game anymore? It's totally deranged.
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>>2707539
So your surprised counties take care of their citizens?

>>2707614

Wouldn't trapping people in poverty and forcing them to live near pollution be considered a form of dysgenics?

>>2707539
kill yourself retarded thirdie (as in third worldist)

> in a standard environment they would have died.
> in a standard environment

so tell me, what is a "standard" environment?

>>2762510
A medieval village where a fetal alcohol syndrome child would be bashed against the rocks or worshipped as a pagan god


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I keep seeing this bait posted:

>>2719727
>Marx was a zionist who praised the US conquest of Mexico and tried to move to Texas

>>2689654
>I can and I will, Marx was a proto zionist, his writings on America confirm it, he even tried to become a settler in Texas

>>2689640
>Marx would have been a zionist too had he lived to see 1948 and especially 1967, he’s dead and his opinions don’t matter

>>2684654
>Fuck marx and fuck marxists, all pieces of shit, all Zionists outside of Palestine

>>2684652
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>>2720690
>"Marx supported the genocide and settler colonialism of the American indigenous people by the proto-Jeffrey Epstein transnational sex slave trafficking class, because Marx saw those bourgeois proto-redditors as more productive and likely to do bourgeois revolutions and primitive accumulation to develop the means of production to 'end barbarism'. Marx would celebrate the enslavement and genocide of indigenous peoples sustainable primitive communism so the proletariat could build Ford assembly lines and AI data centers"
the trvthnvke /leftypol/ can't handle
this is why I don't classify myself as a Marxist
to be a true Marxist you have to hate Slavs, hate Mexicans, hate Jews, hate gays (Marx condemned "pederasty"), and all sorts of other baggage that doesn't matter to an actual socialist revolution. true marxists are all post-marxist aka Leninists Stalinists Trotskyists Maoists etc.

>>2722461
what a crock of shit

This htread is further proof that Marx was extremely based

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>>2720469
he was historical-necessity and historical-progress pilled

>>2762136
Wrong. Today, the lazy cracker are the volkerabfalle. The mexicans are energetic. Marx and engels would love mexicans today


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Everyone right now should be hoping and preparing for AI to be successful in replacing large amounts of knowledge labor. It will probably be the thing that genuienly kicks off the start of a true resurgence in the communist movement. 2008 revived socialism theoretically and planted the seeds of the movement to come. The post-war blip of high-paying white collar jobs in first world countries was in hindsight a historical blip and AI is setting things back to how they once were in a desperate attempt to save the rate of profit.

The conditions for it are really perfect. Displaced white collar workers are educated and socially progressive so they are unlikely to be swept up into right wing populism, unlike displaced manufacturing workers. They'll be forced into low wage and precarious work pushing down wages in those sectors.

Social Democracy isn't an option this time. Social democracy requires a large domestic manufacturing base to tax profits to fund a welfare state, in the age highly mobile, extremely liquid capital any attempt to fund a UBI will at first be met by intense fury by the capitalists likely killing it before it ever even is passed, and on the off chance it is passed you will see capital flight like never before. Additionally govenments are already up to their necks in debt so they cant fund it with deficit spending.

keynsian monetary policy by central banks would also have little effect, if employment is structurally lowered by AI then lowering interest rates doesnt bring back jobs it just makes credit cheaper to invest in more AI.

Fascism is also a much smaller threat then people realize, for aformentioned reasons displaced white collar workers are unlikely to be drawn into fascism, additionally the class base for fascism just doesnt exist anymore. Fascism was born out of the petit bourgeoisie ruined by the great depression, and the bourgeoisie allowed them to take power in order to crush the workers movements. While they succeeded in the that, it also led to massive destruction of capitalist wealth in ww2, so capitalists are going to be unlikely to want to give power to fascists again, additionally the modern petit bourgeoisie is weak and not a threatening force in politics like they were in the 1930s.

So if Social Democracy can't work as a compromise anymore and fascism is no longer possible then that makes the conditions for socialist revolution much more favorable in the coming decades.
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I agree that jobless intelligentsia is required for a revolution.
However, has job killing technology ever resulted in radicalization? Is there a single labor or trades union that has every went on strike over the addition of automation? Even cashiers don't organize against self-checkout lanes.

>>2762133
the luddites?

Your dutch tulips will do as all the other dutch tulips did

>>2725697
>very close to profitability
<bro
<just one more round of venture capital
<trust me bro
<just another ten billion
<please bro
<one more round of multiple billions
<just one more data center the size of a town

>>2725815
>nonprofit means its neutral
lol, thats not how it works


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Marxist solution to exploitation:
>be worker
>have full time job
>not enough to pay bills
>get a 2nd job that doesn't pay you anything and which might get you killed called "professional revolutionary"
>start civil war, probably die in civil war
>if survive civil war, probably get purged in party purges after civil war
>if survive party purges, probably have glowie-backed coup
>if survive glowie-backed coup, probably become revisionist and do capitalist restoration
>right back at square 1

Normal solution to exploitation:
>be worker
>have full time job
>not enough to pay bills
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>>2759909
>Two jobs make you a petry bourgeois
Holy shit you fucking idiot, you cannot be this fucking stupid fucking kill yourself you fucking retard

having two jobs is the kind of thing that leads one to develop frivolous, expensive and unhealthy habits like smoking, drinking, gambling, gaming

>>2759670
>exploitation = not having enough money
cool thread retard

>>2760998
This.
>>2761530
Also this.

>>2759670
>right back at square 1
Uhhm no? After surviving the glowie-backed coup, revisionism and capitalist restoration you are now a well respected party apparatchik/people's billionaire/potential revolutionary war hero

problem solved


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This sir asmongold has saved my life, I used to be an angry transgender chud, but after watching his funny stream I am liberal conservative king. Many well wishes and love to this glorious one true king.

The hero of the reactionary movement. Great intellect of Evropa.


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>>Wearied by the struggle of life, how many close their eyes, fold their arms, stop short, powerless and discouraged. How many, and they among the best, abandon life as unworthy of continuance. With the assistance of some fashionable theories, and of a prevalent neurasthenia, some men have come to regard death as the supreme liberation.

>>To those who hold this view, society replies with the usual clichés.

>>It speaks of the “moral” purpose of life; argues that one has no right to kill himself, that “moral” sorrows must be borne courageously, that a man has duties, that the suicide is a coward or an “egoist”, etc. etc. All of these phrases are religious in tone; and none of them are of genuine significance in rational discussion.

>>What after all is suicide?

>>Suicide is the final act in a series of actions that we all tend to carry out, which arise from our reaction against our environment, or from that environment’s reaction against us.

>>Every day we commit suicide partially. I commit suicide when I consent to inhabit a dwelling where the sun never shines, a room where the ventilation is so inadequate that I feel like I am suffocated when I wake up.

>>I commit suicide when I spend hours on work that absorbs an amount of energy which I am not able to recapture, or when I engage in activity which I know to be useless.

>>I commit suicide whenever I enter into the barracks to obey men and laws that oppress me.
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>>2760714
>being depressed = petite bourgeois
peak leftoid moment

>>2760795
you are jordan peterson

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>>2760714

It is interesting how low the reading comprehension level of leftypol users is, much lower than I expected. First, I checked my comrade’s post. The excerpt comes from a text written during the era of the Paris Commune and its fall, which reflects a period very different from the Russian Revolution. Lenin was not even a revolutionary at that time; this predates the Russian Revolution by many years.

Yet all you get out of this text is “life sucks.” It seems pretty clear that the conclusion of the text is that assimilation to the material conditions created by capital is a form of suicide, and that choosing life means resistance. That life does not suck, but the material conditions our class is subjected to do. Even if your fearlessness puts the physical body at risk, once you no longer fear death, you become a very strong individual contributing to the collective class struggle. It is wild that you do not see this. The comrade posted pictures; the text is plainly put. In fact, some of the people influenced by texts like this later fought as Bolsheviks.

You comrades really need to brush up on your history and theory. Stop being so linear and repetitive in your knowledge accumulation. Learning to repeat things is not understanding history. Open your minds and stop being so intellectually weak. I never even finished high school, what is the excuse here?

>>2760714
Lenin was a college educated middle peasant and had no children. This was one of those moments where he was just really salty at the neighbors he grew up with because his whole family scared the hoes after his older brother got ACKed at the gallows for being a failed Nechayevite bombthrower.

>>2761474
>I never even finished high school


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What is the Marxist take on Solipsism? (Or more acuratelly, metaphysical Solipsism: The idea only the self exists and all the universe is merely an image plastered onto it.) Ive always followed this line of thinking, despite being a materialist in parallel. It just sounds incredibly hard to sincerely refute.
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I think therefore I kill the bourgeoisie

>>2761168 this is such bs lol im sorry if im rude op but this is sooooo fake lol

>>2761168
Im not big fan of this metaphysical philosophical wankery. Every single phenomenon, including your consciousness, your abstract ideas, and your subjective projection of reality, are fundamentally physical.

>>2761255
Supposing that we, somehow, were able to fully copy every last atom of your brain: Would you have two consciences at once? It's fundamentally very hard to trace where our consciousness comes from, and exactly how others would have it. Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen? And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once? I personally believe it's ignorant to fully discard metaphysics, as there's a reasonable limit materialism can describe conciousness.

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>>2761293
Yes, there would be two identical minds at once. From that poing onwards, obviously, they will begin to diverge because being in different points of space will make them subject to slightly different stimuli.

>Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen?

I don't understand where you're going to here. You need your exact genetic make up in order to have your exact consciousness, but I need a diferent one to have mine. Chances of the present state of things occuring are not relevant to the problem of solipsism or of reductionism. If you are a materialist you believe that "chances" are just a mental model of our ignorance, they are not something that actually exists. God doesn't play dice, and all that.

>And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once?
If you are asking why you are inside your particular body you are pressuming that which you are wanting to prove, i.e., that you are something not physical tied somehow to a physical substrate. A materialist doesn't believe this, we believe you are your body, and "consciousness" is simply a word to describe the mental phenomena of your body. It's not necessary to understand the exact nature of consciousness to the last comma to presume it being of a physical nature, it's enough to merely extend to ourselves the knowledge we have of the world. Animals, trees, rocks, planets, parsimony dictates that whatever those things are we must be of the same nature, there is no reason to believe otherwise. So either everything is a soul tied to a body or everything is only body or everything is only soul.

You are on your Descartes era and you must trascend to best philosopher era, our prince Spinoza, the only TRUE materialist metaphyisician.


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Why this whole Lasagna Guy aka Amadeo Bordiga wasn't right?

Also he definetly didn't support fascism, I'm looking for actual critique against his theories and interpretation of marxism.

>>2761321
>Also he defitenelly didnt support fascism
Read 'Vai Victis Germany', falsifier. Long live the German barbarian in brownshirts and his millenar struggle against democratic civilization

>>2761342
>"read this!"
>didn't read himself
Nice one buddy


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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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>>2687710
Tribalism has been a disaster for humanity. Sadly only bad news on the palestinian front. I just stopped paying attention since I can't help them and I can't afford living my whole life pissed off.

Israel’s prison authorities have begun preparations for executing Palestinians under a proposed law condemned by Amnesty International and UN experts.

The preparations include the construction of a “green mile” facility to carry out the hangings, with groups of three volunteer executioners simultaneously pressing a trigger, Israel’s Channel 13 reported.

Two prison rights groups described the death penalty bill as an “unprecedented act of savagery”.

Meanwhile, eight UN experts last week called on Israel to withdraw the bill, which mandates executions within 90 days of a guilty verdict.

The bill, which must pass two more readings in the Israeli Knesset to become law, introduces two tracks for the death penalty.

In the illegally occupied West Bank, Israeli military courts would impose the death penalty for “terrorist” acts that cause someone’s death, even if it was unintentional; while in Israel and occupied East Jerusalem, the death penalty would apply under Israeli criminal law, and only for the “intentional killing of Israeli citizens or residents”.

Only Palestinians will be executed, while Israelis convicted of similar offences will face prison sentences.

If passed, the Israeli government intends first to target the law at the elite Hamas military unit that conducted the 7 October 2023 attacks.
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Bump so this thread doesn't die. All focus is on Iran now.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-death-penalty-bill-palestinian-murder-convicts-faces-vote-2026-03-30/

Law was passed 62 to 120


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/Iran/ - Iran War Thread #45

>Previous Bake
>>2757544

<YHWH Edition

Latest News
Americans are still sub-animals
Israelis are still sub-animals

>Important Links:
https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:52.7/centery:26.8/zoom:7
https://www.defconlevel.com/
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>>2760738
we all know spain will get a fash government on next cycle who will cuck out to the US to embarrassing degrees but I still don't understand the anons saying spain is being anything but based right now when it comes to this war

>>2760819
he is a retard, the whole idea of petrodollar is forcing everyone to have dollars to get oil, making it the de facto forced global reserve currency and forcing the petro monarchies to recycle their dollars into the american debt, if too much of the global supply escape dollar, the whole thing will eventually collapse

>>2759559
Dank. Saved.

>>2760747
Gasoline goes bad in a matter of just a few months. It's better to buy oil futures and sell some of it every time you need to put some gas in the car.

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>>2759404
Greenblatt:
>Stop blaming jews for all these wars. We have nothing to do with this, m'kay.
Also Greenblat:
>We are going to surveil all anti-war activists and communists and rat them out to the FBI. Mwahahahahah!


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