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Enough is enough, I have had it. I have had it with the online 'left' and Communist movement, at least Americans. You people (and most online Communists) spend your entire damn days doing nothing but posting, and rehashing historical ideological battles over and over and over ad infinitum.

>>2803913
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I don't think any of you fuckers, nor anyone else online who is in America and claims to be a Communist have ever gone out and tried to organize, ever. You are all completely out of touch with the American working class.

Do you even know how reactionary the average Zogbot is?
Do you realize that Maoism is just Marxism-Leninism applied to the peasant class in pre-revolutionary China? and that Marxism-Leninism is just Marxism applied to feudal Russian conditions?

It's all a damn charade, nothing more than LARP and endless navel-gazing. You guys shit on anyone doing IRL organizing short of armed struggle (adventurism under present conditions, something that the American working class has no appetite for and is not ready to accept), or people like Hasan Piker who are actual Marxists trying to put class politics into mainstream discourse and consciousness, who are harassed endlessly and targets of neo-McCarthyism (see the Josh Gotheimer bill) but this time supercharged with AI surveillance and AI powered Zionist/Imperialist online disinfo campaigns because of what? Aesthetic and rhetorical differences.

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>>2805695
What the DᛋᛋA is attempting is what they were designed to do, which is funnel revolutionary energy of the left into the Democratic party where it can be safely contained and dissipated by the system. If you hope they are successful, you are objectively not a leftist.

>>2805692
not the same anon but I would hazard a guess that most people are scared of the word "dictatorship" and do not know what "Class dictatorship" means versus "personal dictatorship', let alone that they already live under a bourgeois class dictatorship.

>>2805676
how about you mix chlorine and ammonia?

>>2805695
>but I still hope that they have success in what they are attempting
if you are actually to the left of them, I think maybe you will see why some people are so insistent on social-democrats being untrustworthy if they start getting more power

>>2805995
I hope that they do and that they are sincere. I'm not unaware of the historical record though. I don't think combating them should be a priority though. Dropped flag btw I am not a nihilist nor an anarchist, but I do feel a kinship with them.



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the cuban flotilla is being run by the PSL but they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre across multiple branches, so they are using other orgs they run like code pink to do the promotion and optics of the flotilla

the flotilla, much like the PSL and the rest of these astroturfing organizations like Veterans for Peace or Code Pink are funded primarily by this billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham

I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla. The PSL is one of the biggest obstacles for a revolutionary American left to overcome.
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>>2754758
I've thought the Singham story is the biggest nothingburger. Like there's some rich guy giving you money? My attitude is like meh take the money, what criticism can you make of that which isn't moralistic. What makes me feel more pessimistic, however, is seeing someone like Chris Smalls (in your example) go from being this popular union organizer who came out of nowhere and seemed different and new to becoming another "media leftist" quasi-celebrity. Like there's no workers' political organization as much as a media presence substituting for one and the activism which builds around that skews towards the symbolic and performative side because that's good for media, and maybe that is related to the money going into the media side of things.

Whta even happened with this

Up

>>2748781
Cuba is an irrelevant island. America is the global superpower. It would be us developing cures for the world's diseases. Cuba isn't special. It's America's turn to kick out our occupiers and part of that is realizing what's good for Americans like having cool medicine and why we don't have it.

>>2748081
>with no ties to the american working class
The American working class is basically nonexistent, so it tracks.

>>2748500
Trotskyism is just Marxism Leninism for hipsters. Any problems you have with one likely apply to the other, especially nowadays.



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>>2805377
just after ted turner dies, fucked up

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Why did the redistricting bullshit have to come in an election year. Now the vooters will be extra insufferable and nothing still won't happen

Because the only way to fight fascist vooter disenfranchisement is with more vooting

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>>2805568
Porky of Capital

>>2805377
Read Butcher's Crossing for a fun time



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So China's real state market just crashed, and houses will be cheaper. How is this a bad thing exactly? I don't understand much about economics. But why is everyone saying this is a bad thing?
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>>2795730
But gorbachev and western marxists were 100% in agreement.
In fact, that was the problem, gorbachev listened to the western leftists and eurocommunists who said the USSR was too totalitarian and needed to liberalize

>>2795436
>just crashed
old fucking news, all the westoid "muh ccp collapse!" did their thing already, more than a year ago, and then had to admit it didnt propagate and was a good calculated move from the government stepping in to curb speculation on home construction sector and make sure the sector is there to give people places to live and not rake in money
socialism with chinese characteristics win again

>>2795495
Who are you quoting?

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>>2795730
"Let's see you do better" is probably the most retarded argument a Marxist could probably make. Not only does it not address the argument made, it also completely ignores historical materialism. Revolutions happen because the material conditions of the day make them possible, not because the people involved wanted it hard enough.

>>2805138
Marx supported the American north when they abolished slavery, you'd be fucking retarded to think he wouldnt support Xi's China.

>>2805145
I never said he wouldn't.

I actually like China, by the way, probably even more than most people ITT. They are far and away the most successful socialist experiment thus far, and ought to serve as the model for any future socialist states. They're also a much better influence on global politics than the US. That doesn't mean that they're above criticism tho.



 

What do communist parties and anarchist groups actually do in the west? I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees. When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
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enjoy your dues lol.

>>2804643
>What do communist parties
Protests as rituals and book clubs.
>and anarchist groups actually do in the west?
Drugs

>>2804643
> I joined my union but nothing happened,
You are supposed to do even less than now when there is a strike.

The goal of a union is to grow in size until strikes combined with demands yield results.

The goal of a socialist party is to maintain internal discipline and avoid useless adventures that cause legal risk without material reward.

Realistically, America might be the last country to end up socialist.

Put in plane language, don’t start useless aggressive talk that just results in everyone labeled under NSPM-7 for death.

>>2804643
> communist parties
They read and complain about the anarchists and the other communists
>anarchist groups
They read and have sex with each other while also shit-talking the communists and other anarchsist.
>I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees.
Ok? thatd be your own fault then.
>When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
you are the kind of person people would specifically not bring to that kind of thing. Too eager, too stupid, talks on social media.



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I live in the Global South in a region being absolutely hammered by rising heat waves, the worst kind. People are dying, people are suffering, daily life is becoming unbearable. I’ve watched the heat get worse in real time and seen the misery it brings.
And unlike the retarded neocons these activists do understand the consequences of climate change, but then what? They offer nothing remotely proportional to the crisis. “Plant more trees,” “switch to solar” that’s it. I’ve had to explain over and over that our governments are too corrupt and dysfunctional to pull that off. They barely function as it is. There’s no institutional capacity and Individual actions don’t mean much in a system like this.
We had chances. When Al Gore lost and oil billionaire won, that was a turning point and a disastrous one. I genuinely mourn what could have been different. We could have built global institutions capable of dealing with climate change before it spiraled into this nightmare. But that’s not the world we got.
This is the reality now and If we want to prevent total collapse, geoengineering is the only option left on the table. I know it’s dangerous and I know it doesn’t fix the root cause. I’m not blind to that. But at this point it’s not about perfect solutions, it’s about any solution that might actually keep people alive and not in pain.
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>>2804071
Pakistan

There's been an answer for years that requires zero change in consumption but we are simply fettered by Epsteinite occupiers.

>>2803811
>What industries
NTA, auto.

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>Hey guys and bros! Today I have a really retarded question that I'm going to ask here without doing even the most surface level of research on the topic! Next I'm going to act like you are the stupid one! It's going to be greaaaat!!

"Western activists" weird framing since it comes almost entirely from western billionaires.



 

I live in South Carolina. Joshua Sutter and his wife, Jillian Hoy operated Martinet Press and lived in and were based in South Carolina. There they formed the Tempel ov Blood/Libre 333/Iron Gates together for a theistic satanist order.
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>>2775415
yes, christian identity has several churches all of which are whites-only
there's also a fringe sub-sector ,Dual Seedline
william finck is the worst

>>2775399

i thought it meant confidential informant

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>>2773122
>What hate groups originate in your state (Amerimutts only)?
Most of them

The JDF are very active in a college town in my state. They know that they can get away with it too. I wonder why.

The ACP led by the perfidous Haz Al-Deen



 

Anyone read the book Meditations on the Tarot? Got interested it because of the Jungian archetypes.

posting this mainly to get vetted on the matrix since the mods are serious there and serious here since I got banned on one wifi for accidentally messing up the arithmetic problem

Oh great another annoying namefag

The best part of Jung was his materialist work on unconscious responses to stimuli measured with electronic devices, but all these retards want to talk about is magic beetles and archtypes or somesuch nonsense. There is an actual process for helping people with trauma and complexes that involves materialism you know that thing we are trying to defend. That bring said I like Passio's scholarship. Do not namefag.

Just go to the source and read jung



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THE AESTHETICS OF COMMUNISM

This thread will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ), including New Afrika, Aztlan (in a Hispano-American SFSR that includes all the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad, Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2776027
Why do you beg the question when it's well-known to everyone that that's what you are doing and the type of person you are? Fuck off. Done responding to the troll

>>2545468
Bump, I cannot let my Epic Dialectical Materialist Effort Post Thread on the “Aesthetics of Communism” die yet, like, this is literally my Masterpiece, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

>>2804606
What schizo shit are you talking about, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

Please ban this user. They’re part of a bot operation orchestrated by a cult that uses this image board to train online personas so they can release them to psyop people into following a fake herd. they will eventually do whatever the fuck they do and make hundreds of personalities based on it put it on YouTube and elsewhere to promote their misguided beliefs.

>>2804607

dude were logging you all, we saw the software responding to us. deleted it to show you, we're watching.



 

Liberal "mutual aid" is simply charity draped in the rhetoric of radical anti‑charity, a food drive, a medicine or clean‑needle table, a hot meal dispensed downward. Such interventions may be momentarily useful, but they are not mutual aid in the materialist sense. They reproduce the giver‑receiver relation, the commodity form of assistance, and the reification of the helper as petite‑bourgeois dispenser / volunteer. The recipient remains an object of pity; the circuit of capital is interrupted only at the point of transfer, not at the point of social reproduction. The empirical reality contradicts the self‑congratulatory narrative of radical cliques, there is more genuine mutual aid, more autonomous social reproduction, more daily cooperation outside the wage occurring in the poorest, most abandoned neighborhoods than in the entire apparatus of the NGO left and its salon revolutionaries. The most effective organizers, those who actually emerge from the material conditions of the working poor and the lumpenproletariat, struggle daily against the immiseration capitalism has imposed upon them yet they are systematically ignored by white‑collar, Ivy League students who inhabit comfortable, cushioned lives, who speak the language of Marxism while practicing hyper‑individualism, who mistake performative radicalism for class struggle, and who treat the poor as abstract signifiers rather than as comrades with whom one eats, sleeps, and fights with. This is not a failure of theory; it is a failure of class position entirely. The petite‑bourgeoisie has colonized the left, and until it is expelled, or until it learns to shut the fuck up and take orders from those who actually live the struggle, the light of truth will remain hidden behind a cloud of grant proposals and endless virtue signaling.

Real mutual aid is not an event. It is a mode of living, the daily, tedious, yet joyful labor of reproducing the material conditions of collective survival outside the wage, outside the bourgeois state, outside the NGO, and, ideally, outside every other institution that mediates and limits working‑class power. This process ideally must begin with the capture of space and the utilization of the commons. Territory is not merely a backdrop to existence; it is the material precondition for autonomous social reproduction.

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I am telling IFA that glowie uyghurs (probably the liberal glowie CIA uyghurs at black rose FED) are using sudanese uyghurs to fund juche methheads

>>2804530
I don't have a problem with meth, lsd, drugs, I have a problem with the uyghurs lying about sudanese uyghurs needing help and then doing this shit, death to the war on drugs and the juche retards too

>>2804540
>anarcho-Juche
No such thing, just a grifter, anarchism is incompatible with juche.

>>2804555
Liberals, 99,9% of them are liberals who use the name for the military chic, punk retards

New kind of schizo just dropped



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