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>a picture of before 2023.
lemme show you the latest idc attempt to legitimize israel:
2026
lol, lmao even.


When the pedophiles more actively sweep, constantly vigilant to hide their crimes, then we become more active in attack, whittling away at the pedophile energy morale and overall cognitive. The more active defense of the pedophiles, the more successful our psychologic operation. The less active they are, the easier exposing them is. Win-win tactic is assured against these rotten pedophiles. PLA texbook asymmetric psychological warfare assure success against these no life pedophiles. The more these pedophiles try to defend themselves of their proven crimes, the bigger grave they dig. Give up now, pedophiles. Arent you tired? What do you fight for, aside your pedophile imperialist epstein sickness? Give up, pedophiles. Repent for your crimes against humanity.

BANNED WITHIN THE MINUTE, THE PEDOPHILES ARE PUTTING IN ANOTHER 8 16 HOUR SHIFT, ON FRIDAY NO LESS xD. YOU SAD EPSTEIN FUCKS

You child porn loving moderator. Imperialist epstein aristocrat devils who do notjing but but spend 12 hours average a day defend their child porn. All good people, all good things are on my side against you imperialist pedophile devils. you pedophile imperialist aristocrats are therefore doomed. You fight for child porn, I fight for what is right. No matter how sad and retarded the user base is by your pedophillic no-life ban cudgel, You will always be wrong because youre pedophiles and racist and imperialist, like epstein.

Give up, pedophiles, You know youre wrong. You lie to people constantly, but youre pedophiles and I have the proof. I have the leftypol-getchan moffin files https://getchan.net/GET/res/1011+50.html#1011
Youre all a bunch of marxless pedophile epsteins. Karmelo anthony did nothing wrong but youre all here defending the leftypol epstein child porn connection. >>2850007
Pay no mind to this retarded libsoc Agent Kochinskiite ziocom pedophile nor their lies, because he is totally wrong. This pedophile expends untold energy in 8 or 16 hour shifts, checking IP of every post waiting for me all day, banning me within the minute of posting, a post innocous and mere general consciousness shared by the board against the all combined braincells of the pedophile libsoc DSA namefags, all to hide the evidence of their affiliation to pedophile GETchanPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Can't believe id communism is fueling and feeding he zionist genocide machine


>>2857636
With so many crimes that it's actually committed why does Ukraine need to be punished for something it didn't do



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What are the best arguments for or against third-worldism?

>Is there a true “proletariat” within the global north?

>How culpable are the rank and file citizenry in first world nations?
>Do first world nations have potential for proletarian revolution from within, or can they only be destroyed externally by “proletarian nations”?
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>>2857659
> I'm talking about the observable historical reality of workers self organizing that is also observably absent in the modern day.
how do you observe the past, hippy? do you have a time machine

>>2857608
they believe in american exceptionalism and conflict of civilizations just as much as any other NeoCon they just disagree on who le good civilization-state is and still think the world revolves around america and americans.

>>2857667
i agree. strip out the very superficial use of slogans and jargon and you can sort them into two categories: liberal idealists clinging to anarchism and agent provocateurs

>>2857665
Read a book uygha

>>2857765
go to bed



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No bait no rageful discussion just honest question, Why was he so hated?

It seems to me that By all means he is an orthodox marxist and his writings perfectly fine. And his criticisms of the USSR seem non-objectionable to most people (Totalitarianism is bad, More party discourse needed, More worker democracy, etc.)

Why is he so hated among many marxist circles? Hate doesn't describe it, He is thoroughly despised.
I'm all ears. and will respond if I have time.
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>>2856178
menshevik revisionist who conspired with enemies of the revolution to remove stalin as premier 100% because he was malding that both lenin and the party liked stalin better. in exile he formed the 100% bourgeois CPUSA that to this day has yet to acheive anything, and wrote a bunch of cringe shit about how the proletariat of oppressed nations couldn't do revolution properly and they needed le western left to help. got booted out of the USA and went to mexico where he hooked up with frieda kahlo: quintessential libtard postcolonialist art ho who was pretending to be indigenous.

in short:
>he a snake
>he stupid
>he don't got bars
>his bitch is wack

>>2856443
why? I like being cool and having cool friends.

>>2857041
>can't spout commodity-producing furrTRVTH without open mysoginy
ever wonder why nobody likes you guys?

>>2857094
just saying he got MOGGED so hard by stalin his gf had a mustache.

>>2856950
They repaid that by assassinating him after bombing the soviet embassy
RE: The doctors' plot



 

The global economy is overproducing in general. Abolishing overproduction would not lead to drop in living standards, since with planning and rationing we can ensure decent living standards for 8.5 billion people using 30% of current production, and use the remaining surplus for luxury, free time, and science.
<Some narratives* in international development hold that ending poverty and achieving good lives for all will require every country to reach the levels of GDP per capita that currently characterise high-income countries.
<However, this would require increasing total global output and resource use several times over, dramatically exacerbating ecological breakdown.
<Furthermore, universal convergence along these lines is unlikely within the imperialist structure of the existing world economy.
<Here we demonstrate that this dilemma can be resolved with a different approach, rooted in recent needs-based analyses of poverty and development.
<Strategies for development should not pursue capitalist growth and increased aggregate production as such, but should rather increase the specific forms of production that are necessary to improve capabilities and meet human needs at a high standard, while ensuring universal access to key goods and services through public provisioning and decommodification.
<At the same time, in high-income countries**, less-necessary production should be scaled down to enable faster decarbonization and to help bring resource use back within planetary boundaries.
<With this approach, good lives can be achieved for all without requiring large increases in total global throughput and output.==
<Provisioning decent living standards (DLS) for 8.5 billion people would require only 30% of current global resource and energy use, leaving a substantial surplus for additional consumption, public luxury, scientific advancement, and other social investmentsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anti-imperialists are unironically muh iphone lmao

>>2854484
>Abolishing overproduction would not lead to drop in living standards, since with planning and rationing we can ensure decent living standards for 8.5 billion people using 30% of current production, and use the remaining surplus for luxury, free time, and science.

umm fuck your science. it's bourgeois. clearly the world is a zero sum game. every calorie that goes into a westoid tummy is ripped out of a third world tummy.

(jk anon, this is totally correct and has been correct for decades now)

>>2854546
>every american has a car, 3 iphones, a laptop, a gaming pc, a smart watch, a fridge, a microwace, AC, and hundreds of useless little trinkets they buy from time to time
even the homeless. it's true

>>2854546
And yet if you eliminate the inherent wastefulness of capitalism it becomes possible for literally everybody in the world to have a comparable living standard without growing global GDP.

>>2854484
search copper -> no results
search soil -> no results
search coltan -> no results
search concrete -> no results

Anyway the left should figure out if we need to expand the means of production to overcome scarcity or if we're actually overproducing and just have to distribute it better. The latter is probably more optimistic unless you want to start doing asteroid mining or we figure a way to save the topsoil and vanishing fossil water.



 

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>>2857218
Newsom knows the new game in the age of social media: double down and never apologize

>>2857218
only surprising thing is that his staff wasn't intentionally sending shit to the feds

>>2857372
Notice Non-Dixians demonize us in the same way as an internal colony that is only worthy of death.

>>2857381
Relativizing idiot. They see it as a threat because that is basic market competition logic at play.

>>2857396
Utterly wasting your time with a controlled opposition org filled with idealist liberals and feds instead of building the fucking revolutionary proletarian communist party, you "playing dumb" ass motherfucker. Bet you don't see that on your feed or whatever because it's entirely composed of rosa killers, grifters, entertainment, viral marketing and porn.



 

ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

Manica di degenerati. Non mi aspettavo proprio che dopo un mese d'assenza, il filo cadesse dalla tavola. Vabè, leftypol ormai è l'ombra di quello che era soltanto qualche anno fa, ma c'è un limite a tutto.
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Non si smette mai d'imparare

>>2829865
Na tristezza

Bump

Sembra che il fascismo vincerà in Italia. Voglio dire, a questo punto la maggior minaccia del governo Meloni non è neanche uno della sinistra, ma un ex’generale capitalista, razzista e omofobico che vuole che l’Italia sia ancora più schiava all’America ed Israele (ma del resto, nessun politico in Italia può avere una carriera senza viaggiare a Washington DC per dichiarare massima lealtà alla casa Bianca e Tel Aviv). Ovviamente, sto parlando di Roberto Vannacci del “Futuro Nazionale”, che ora ha 5% dei sondaggi. Credo che l’italiani abbiano già capito che votare non serve a nulla, ma credo che Meloni cercherà di allearsi con lui per poter rimanere in potere per lungo sebbene i sondaggi di Meloni non sono le migliori.

>>2857100
Elettori di destra i più cojoni in assoluto. Le proposte di Vannacci sono tutte minestra riscaldata, tutta roba già proposta da salvini e meloni. Paese bollito.



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A peasant, a shepherd, a simple worker from Donbass, he became the leader of the most powerful country in the world. Was such a thing possible under capitalism?
"I learned to count to 30, and my father decided that learning was enough for me," Khrushchev recalled. "All you need is to learn to count money, and you'll never have more than thirty rubles anyway. My father dreamed of saving up, returning to the village, and buying a horse to grow enough potatoes and cabbage to feed the family. But we never got a horse. My parents cherished this dream even after 1908, when we finally moved to Yuzovka. There, my father worked in the mines, my mother washed clothes, and I cleaned steam boilers."

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The European attempt to talk about colonization was a failure. Come one at a time, faggots. The USSR colonized Central Asia so much that it SPENT MORE on it than it received, and yet 98% of the population voted to preserve it, but the leaders of the Belarusian, Ukrainian, and Russian republics destroyed the USSR.

and Russia benefited so much from Central Asia that it voluntarily abandoned the idea of ​​a single country with it

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>i was colonisated

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>>2857373



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I think it’s interesting to observe the pattern of technological development in Africa compared to NATO. A lot of what’s being made there is surprisingly specific, pragmatic, and efficient compared to many new western technologies that often serve as solutions to problems western companies make.

Technologies built around mobile systems; efficient use of clay, cement, and steel metals; decentralized utility and logistics systems; a lot of work related to solar power which im happy for; some oddly specific technological developments surrounding armoured cars, surveillance, and border security etc.

From what I infer a lot of this behaviour is driven organically by the geographic conditions of the continent in general. Many of the resources on the continent are stretched across vast distances, sparse/scarce in supplies, and broken up by unusually poor terrain. This often means that any technological developments made are unusually way more specific, pragmatic, and efficient in use for immediate and existing problems compared to tech made outside of it where figures or promises on features surrounding what the tech can do. Sometimes, this does *alot* to change how people approach life. It’s only recently that a lot of changes were made so that desert sands and earth could be used conventionally at scale to produce modular construction kit—this is huge on construction in general since it offers a way to build on the scale that china did *without causing the same level of ecological destruction*.

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by Africa do you count North-Africa or just Sub-Saharan Africa
?



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Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
I thouht the proles were supposed to be in charge? Did ML's lie to me? I dont believe it.
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>>2857113
yes actually

>>2857137
I said it unironically. How gorbachev and his clique could be so naive is beyond me. At least CPC has learnt her lessons about this catastrophy.

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>Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
<Revisionism and its consequences for the human species

>>2824516
the population voted for the new union treaty/gorbachev's conception of the union, regardless of if that was right or wrong, once it became clear that dream was dead, they moved on

>>2825014
da jooz are not responsible for your inability to plan an economy



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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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>>2829020
all unions should provide militant arms and martial arts classes.

>>2829020
>but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union
This can be how you end up with a labour aristocracy though. For example, it was common in the past for dockworkers to show solidarity with people in colonial or fascist countries by refusing to load or upload goods bound for or coming from those countries. To take a comteporary hypothetical, if a dockworker's union and management are in negotiations, and management offers a contract that includes large wage and benefit increases in exchange for a pledge not to boycott military shipments to Israel, should the union take the deal?

>>2829034
>should the union take the deal?
You're describing the economist issue. Syndicate action has to be made political, otherwise it is just economism. But it is hard to repoliticize syndicates.

>>2808692
>why hasn't this happened yet?
Coordinated effort by porkies to keep unions disorganized.

>>2808692
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
The third world is filled with small capitalists and reactionaries that prevent that violently.



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