/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2811929
the classcuck went mute at this question

>>2848903
it's more money than a human being could possibly use in several lifetimes. he himself will die having not used 99.99999999999% of it for anything, while paying accounts to manage it, and dolling out a small portion of it to his many ex-wives and spawn… what's the point? Legitimately what is the point?

>>2811929
Does it matter when the USSR subsequently collapsed in an embarrassing heap? If there were incentives to develop in the short term, they clearly weren't there for staying the course.

>>2854231
I should be less glib: "does it matter?" Was unduly dismissive. My actual point would be that capitalism can function with a dud leader so long as he doesn't meddle too much (and even then his meddling can be routed around) since the incentive structure is decentralised while soviet socialism was dependent on having a Stalin tier leader to keep things in check and progress progressively slowed and then stagnated under average tier leaders before finally appointing a substantially below average leader who brought the whole thing down. (And he was not uniquely bad in this respect, many of his ideas were clichés of his generation.)

A system dependant on always having a once in a generation talent in charge is a doomed system. Better a thousand average people, some lucky, some blundering.

https://xcancel.com/NickGriffinBTP/status/2070778754654208425

https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/2071283893336948830

https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/2071312887822319653

About that movie Elon has been gushing over, it’s basically just Islamophobic propaganda, and a hymn to racial violence. Also, some guy on Leftypol named captain Sindabad did a break down of it. Apparently more locals and cops get killed than non-whites LOL

As for use message: There are fans who are eagerly rooting for Sanders' killing sprees but Uwe Boll himself the film is not meant to endorse the killing of immigrants and that the film is designed to spark debate regarding the character's violent actions rather than serving as a standard, celebratory hero narrative: https://youtu.be/ySHByNp6pNk

But yh, I find it unconvincing considering how the MC’s actions are never questioned in-story nor is he pushed back against. Truly an Uwe Boll movie alright.

Going back to Elon: What bugs me about Musk is his sheer evilness. This is a trillionaire who isn't just a product of apartheid SA, but also has no regards for truth and knowledge that he is happy to push lies even as it leads to the deaths of millions, all the while whining about leftists saying mean things to him. Like, he'll boost nazi content but only to deny he is a nazi since he supports Israel and censors anti-zionism on his private platform. He is basically a villain of the kind shown in anime and cyberpunk fiction.

I tell my friend all the time
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Rightoid politics force an alignment of socioeconomic disparities with the amde up concept of races to make an example and perpetuate their politics.

>>2855461
It's hard to argue with chuddery. If you really want to try to appeal to reason though maybe the ecological fallacy. Like yeah per capita (American) black men shoot people at higher rates (that's what we're talking about right?) because of growing up in the hood but that just collapses completely if you randomly pick on any individual black guy. (Which the police really do.) It's something you learn in a statistics 101 class, not even re: race or politics specifically, it's just a problem about inference from population-level data but it usually applies to people.

Also chuddery is an interally contradictory ideological formation in an ironic paradox sort of way, in that it tends to make what they don't like into a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like Hitler is going to save the white race whoops Hitler just killed millions of white people and destroyed Germany! That is an especially catastrophic example and it's a bit weird of an argument to make since it's almost like making it from the far right but still, that did happen. But in the U.S. context you have white flight, disinvestment, mass incarceration and otherwise the state fashioning black men as a criminal enemy sort of class. Huh gee now these people are really good at hitting licks and evading detection, but you made them that way.

Third thing is more psychological. If people from different "races" encounter each other and have negative experiences, that isn't good. But I think people need to get out and explore and meet different people. Often once you do you realize it's not such a bad deal. You also develop a more accurate understanding, because what you're afraid of is probably not going to kill you, it's something like a vehicle accident or drowning in a pool that will kill you. Also mosquitos have a massive death toll on humans worldwide.

There are war correspondents who went to to war-torn West African countries 20 years ago and filmed child soldiers ripping people's hearts out. That is a bad deal but those kids are like soldiers who are proud of that and want to show off to the white man with the camera, so he wasn't actually in as much danger thank you might have thought. Also battle casualties weren't as high as you might think either because of the style of warfare. It's not that the chuds are pussies necessarily (just kidding a lot of them are) but tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855461
direct them to Richard Hanania, a former white nationalist who now spends most of his time pointing out all the ways that conservatism has a "human capital" problem.
(and also highlighting groups like indians are, statistically, model minorities in every way except being brown… so naturally they're loathed because chuddery is about feelings over facts.)

>>2855572
Indians are a model minority unless you've ever interacted with them

>>2855525
>black men shoot people at higher rates (that's what we're talking about right?) because of growing up in the hood
But why is "the hood" the way it is?
>muh drugs
White America is plagued with drugs too
>muh poverty
The median black american has a higher adjusted income than most Europeans, and around the same level as West Virginians. Their murder rate is 5-40 times higher.
>muh inequality
White America is pretty unequal too.
>it's just a problem about inference from population-level data but it usually applies to people.
Well nobody's saying that one individual black person can't be intelligent or peaceful. The problem is that these things are rarer amongst black people. Politics don't deal with individuals, it deals with groups.
>It's like Hitler is going to save the white race whoops Hitler just killed millions of white people
Genuinely: do you think Hitler was the only racist ever to exist? You know Woodrow Wilson and FDR were racist as well, and they… Won?
>you made them that way.
How? Is it possible that they were that way to begin with, and that's why white flight and mass incarceration happen? Or are you just discounting that wholesale? If so, why?
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>>2853969
>Gorbachev’s presidency had other unintended consequences. Nursultan Nazarbayev, the fifty-year-old Party head of the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, who had effusively supported Gorbachev, suddenly announced he would become the President of Kazakhstan. Two weeks later, the Party head of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov, said the same. Gorbachev reacted with genuine surprise: “How come? Without any advice and consent . . . I thought we had agreed . . . that there would be only one president in the country.” Karimov calmly replied: “It is the wish of the people.” Nazarbayev intoned: “People in Kazakhstan also say: can’t we have a president too?” Gorbachev then lamely agreed. Thus, he had recog-nized the right of the republican potentates to change the republican constitu-tion in the same way the Kremlin had done.
Do kind of feel bad for him sometimes lmao

>>2853969
exactly, but i think its a stretch to say he had the best of intentions. he was mainly ego-driven and wanted to be remembered as a great-man savior, a position that led him farther towards seeking out western and imperialist clout the more that the western media and diplomats humored him. the funniest part is the US & NATO didnt even particularly want, let alone expect, the USSR to collapse. better to have a unified 2nd rate power to equal parts exploit & compete against. not to say that the US didnt quickly jump on the decaying corpse of the soviets ofc.

that said i do pity him, hard not to when you read how regularly he fucked things up or stuck his head in the sand. i dont think he wanted things to be worse, my guess is that he just didnt have a sense of the real stakes involved & was equal parts delusional and self absorbed. he definitely wasnt the only incompetent moron high in soviet politics, and not the most incompetent, but there were also more competent and intelligent people trying to course correct at so many moments. and he climbed and sweet-talked for the job for most of his life. i feel pity just at the second hand embarassment but also incredulity & disgust

>>2854920
i think you're both being too charitable to gorbachev's intentions and not appreciating the direction he walked through the river, let alone its thick mud and strong currents, gorbachev's biggest ideological inspiration toward the end was social democracy (late perestroika, new union treaty, 500 days programmem etc.) and both this and many of his failures are not entirely his but can also be laid at the feet of the soviet system that, even outside of it's disregard to even some of the most basic tenants of marx/engles' socialism, was byzantine and filled with self-interested bureaucrats and careerists, the very same that strangled ogas

>>2854953
yeah wasnt even my intention to be particularly charitable but i get your point. im not even sure he sincerely believed in his brand of social democracy any more than he did his earlier brand of leninism. but if you read his later interviews and statements and can get past has contemptible his refusal of any accountability is, he did seem genuinely dishearted by the dissolution and the state of the former union states in the 90s going forward. thats not sympathetic but it does make him a bit more pitiable as a historical "character" compared to completely unfeeling snakes like yeltsin

>>2853969
>presidency

It needs to be said, that the office of President, was a pure Gorbachev creation, on the advice the traitor-wrecker Alexander Yakovlev. Yakovlev has advocated for a presidency multiple times, he got his wish in 1990.

There is a story of Yakovlev telling Anatoly Chernyaev, [in said man's diary], of Yakovlev convincing Gorbachev, of changing the political system, and taking loans from western countries.

>The Diary of Anatoly Chernyaev: January 28, 1990

Chernyaev: On Monday there was PB, discussing the “CPSU Platform” composed by Skakh and me and edited by M.S. The level [of discussion] is hopelessly bad. Although Egor did “quiet down” and was not too aggressive, though he did say that he is strongly opposed to “a multiparty system.”

By the way, M.S. picked new secretaries for the PB: Usmanov, Stroev, Girenko, Manaenkov, etc. “Good guys.” But they shouldn’t be above the level of a mid-level oblast committee. Why should they be in the highest echelon? He himself keeps talking about intellectual potential!

We spent the whole day in his office. He did not give up his positions on the multi-party system and private property, but ordered that we make it “more rounded.” He agreed with me that the term “Marxism-Leninism” should not be allowed into the Platform.

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you've got a lot of reading to do

Don't ask people here about communism, it's like astrology shit here.

>>2855112
>What are your solutions?
War of national liberation against israel. If youre talking abous jewSA instead the problem seems to be evangelical christians corrupted by israel.

>>2855112
>these Zionist assholes
Capitalists are also bad even if they aren't zionists

22 Democrats Join GOP to Block Lebanon War Powers Resolution, Enabling Netanyahu’s Sabotage of US-Iran Ceasefire
Despite top House Democrats, including Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (NY) and Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Gregory Meeks (NY), giving rhetorical backing to the resolution this time around, The Intercept reported that they did not formally whip the vote.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/lebanon-war-powers-vote

Supreme Court spurns Trump on birthright citizenship, allows transgender sports bans
The U.S. Supreme Court handed President Donald Trump a painful defeat on Tuesday by rejecting his move to restrict birthright citizenship on the final day of its momentous term, while also letting states ban transgender student athletes from women's sports teams and striking down more ​campaign finance limits.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/supreme-court-spurns-trump-birthright-citizenship-allows-transgender-sports-bans-2026-06-30/

US threatens to cut funds for Kansas school district over transgender policies
The U.S. government said on Tuesday it will bring enforcement action against the Kansas ​City Public School District in Kansas over its ‌transgender policies that could include judicial proceedings and loss of federal funding. In a statement, the Education Department alleged that the school ​district's policy not to disclose a student's transgender status ​even to parents violated the Family Educational Rights ⁠and Privacy Act.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-threatens-cut-funds-kansas-school-district-over-transgender-policies-2026-06-30/

AIPAC, Big Tech Back Diana DeGette Over Melat Kiros With $2M Spending Flood
The June 30 primary in the Denver area has drawn national attention in the wake of Tuesday’s sweeping set of wins by democratic socialists in New York. Kiros has run as a critic of unchecked AIPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

India’s Cockroach Janta Party: a lightning rod for Gen Z rage
“Those in power think citizens are cockroaches and parasites. They should know that cockroaches breed in rotten places. That’s what India is today.” These are the words of Abhijeet Dipke, founder of the Cockroach Janta Party (CJP) – the ‘Cockroach People’s Party’, a play on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP), the ‘Indian People’s Party’. In just a few days, the party garnered over 22 million followers on Instagram, 220,000 followers on X, signed up one million members, and has the ruling BJP government terrified. What started as a satirical online joke has become a lightning rod for the profound anger and indignation of India’s youth that is terrifying our rotten ruling class.
https://marxist.com/india-s-cockroach-janata-party-a-lightning-rod-for-gen-z-rage.htm

Left must not give Burnham a blank cheque
Burnham himself is a blank piece of paper onto which everyone in Labour projects what they most want to see. He was firmly in the New Labour mainstream during the Blair-Brown governments, lurched to the right during his own leadership bid in 2015 but then reinvented himself as an interventionist mayor in Manchester, within the considerable limitations of the post. In recent weeks, as he was seeking election in Makerfield, he articulated a range of positions – on standing up to the bond market, on electoral reform, on justice for the Waspi women – only to walk them back almost immediately. Given that Keir Starmer was partially undone by his endless U-turns, this is hardly reassuring, given that Burnham has not even been subjected to the full-force pressure of vested interest that will be brought to bear on him in Downing Street.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/left-must-not-give-burnham-blank-cheque

Pride: From Stonewall to Social Revolution
Every June, politicians, corporations and state institutions wrap themselves in rainbow colours and speak of diversity and inclusion. Yet the history of Pride did not begin in boardrooms or parliament. It began in resistance. The Stonewall upPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855086
Millions

Tybna!

>>2854111
>class anger
Small capitalist anger

Porky shocktrooper down

>>2854126
Left one not bad either

>>2854098
>what the hell happened on january 6th, 2021 again?
A literal inside job just like 9/11. It was allowed to happen. Cops let the putschists in. Vid related.
>>2854550
>Democrats not executing the enablers and organizers was such a cuck moment.
That would require them to not be liberals.

It’s right up there with the Kirk assassination as a peak news day. Man do I wish more died though, what a shame.

Petro maintains leadership role on Colombia’s left
The two leaders met at the Casa de Nariño in response to the loss of the elections to the far-right candidate, which led to fighting among the leftist coalition that formed around the Historic Pact party to support Cepeda’s candidacy.Gustavo Petro and Senator Ivan Cepeda will jointly lead the political opposition to President-elect Abelardo de la Espriella, they announced after a meeting at the presidential palace. In a post on social media platform X, Cepeda said that Petro “is our supreme leader and the architect of the first progressive government.”
https://colombiareports.com/petro-maintains-leadership-role-on-colombias-left/

Colombian Forces Destroy 81 Illegal Mining Operations in the Choco Department
The Army stated that the action directly impacts the illicit economies of the Clan del Golfo, also known as the Gaitanista Army of Colombia (EGC), considered the largest criminal organization in the country. According to military intelligence, the Clan del Golfo obtains part of its income from illegal mining in the Colombian Pacific region, in addition to drug trafficking, extortion, and armed territorial control.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/colombian-forces-destroy-81-illegal-mining-operations-in-the-choco-department/

El Salvador's Bukele seeks party nod for third term after constitutional change
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele has registered to seek his party's nomination for the 2027 ​presidential election, pursuing a third term after allies in ‌Congress changed the constitution to allow indefinite re-election, the head of the ruling Nuevas Ideas party said on Sunday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvadors-bukele-seeks-party-nod-third-term-after-constitutional-change-2026-06-29/

Collapsed hospitals and morgues raise health fears in Venezuela's earthquake zone
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(TrueAnon)Episode 558: Zone Time
We’re joined by Natasha Dow Schüll to talk about GAMBLING, MONEY, The Machine Zone, the Ludic Loop, and MORE.
https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod/posts/episode-558-zone-162397774


Josip Broz Tito: Concerning the National Question and Social Patriotism
What are the phenomena of nationalism? Here are some of them: 1) National egoism, from which many other negative traits of nationalism are derived, as for example — a desire for foreign conquest, a desire to oppress other nations, a desire to impose economic exploitation upon other nations, and so on; 2) national-chauvinism which is also a source of many other negative traits of nationalism, as for example national hatred, the disparagement of other nations, the disparagement of their history, culture, and scientific activities and scientific achievements, and so on, the glorification of developments in their own history that were negative and which from our Marxist point of view are considered negative. And what are these negative things? Wars of conquest are negative, the subjugation and oppression of other nations is negative, economic exploitation is negative, colonial enslavement is negative, and so on. All these things are accounted negative by Marxism and condemned. All these phenomena of the past can, it is true, be explained, but from our point of view they can never be justified. In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression. In the new, socialist Yugoslavia the existing equality of rights for all nationalities has made it impossible for one national group to impose economic exploitation upon another. That is because hegemony of one national group over another no longer exists in this country. ….
https://www.marxists.org/archive/tito/1948/11/26.htm


Earthquakes in Venezuela Show Consequences of State Neglect, Social Inequality, and Imperialism
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Tybna

>>2854198
Not so much great, more a return to the to the norm. Quite funny the best the USA were able to get out of unopposed hegemony was a few decades max.
>Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
Lol. Lmao. They could have turned off the taps and stopped this at any point.

>>2854198
>unites the muslim world with now Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
stopped reading

go back to plebbit pakistani cuckslamist

>>2854198
>with now Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
Dont hold your breath waiting for this.

>>2853861
>I've still never thought that "mercantilism" should be considered its own economic system or mode of production though.
The period was never self-described as "mercantilist". It is a derisive term given by liberals, especially after Adam Smith. The term "capitalism" itself is also a 19th century term, when according to Marx, capitalism existed since around 1500 CE, in development.
>>2853854
The Mercantilist period began around 1600 CE and can be seen in various tendencies within the British, Dutch and French empires of the time. We see literature in the early 17th century (highlighted in Antoine Montchretien's "Traicte", 1615) that merchant guilds in the City of London were growing in social power following the joint-stock company of the East India Company (est. 1600), immediately followed by the Dutch East India Company (est. 1602). New legal frameworks such as the laws of the sea (maritime law) were being debated, regarding new mercantile systems of global trade and colonial capture. We see an emphasis on a growing industrial base at the same time however by Antoine Montchretien's primary account of the manufacturing of both Britain and the Netherlands (who were coincidentally the two great protestant powers which in establishing a national church - rather than submitting to Catholic internationalism, economised church property. Marx discusses this in regards to the Dissolution of the Monasteries, 1536-41, were former Church property became privately leased, which if you are inrerested in the saga of British law, overthrow internal debates about "mortmain", or the "dead hands" of "corporate" property). The most famous mercantilist writer is Thomas Mun's "England's Treasure" (1640), in which he emphasises a "balance of trade" as his main objective, which of course is entirely reasonable. Soon after this, we get William Potter (1650) who is subverting the dominant discourse away from the "usury" of creditors for the sake of expanding commerce (Marx also viewed this turn as the interests of industrial capital overtaking interest-bearing capital). This is followed up by Josiah Child (1668) on the same premises. Each of the men demanded a further lowering of the national rate of interest (which since the starPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2853861
>>2853854
>>2853921
To add something basic which was overlooked, William Potter in 1650 proposes a "land bank" to establish lines of national credit for investment, and Marx calls Josiah Child a precedessor to the creditors who establish the Bank of England (1694), which then becomes integral to the national investment in industry, by collecting funds for large-scale development. In the same time, the Netherlands had established a central bank. John Law in the early 18th century was also advocating the same policy for France. The foundation of central banks is then internal to mercantile debates. John Locke himself became a member of the Board of Trade in 1696, like how Isaac Newton became Bank of England treasurer, who in 1717 established the gold standard. So then, interest-bearing capital loses primacy by the consolidation of credit for the sake of investment into industrial capital. Now, the world's first central bank has an interesting history. It was established by the Knights Templar in the 12th century, setting up franchises all over the place, such as the Temple Bank in the City of London. The assets were eventually seized on October 13, 1307 (which was also a massively corrupt era of the Catholic Church - the accusations of the Templars being idolaters who worship Baphomet equally apply to the institution as a whole - even barring the later selling of "indulgences" to piss off Luther). This was the beginning of the end of the medieval era, as the Black Death came soon after, along with the dissolution of feudalism in England, and the rediscovery of antiquity in the Renaissance, finally leading up to the Protestant Reformation.

>>2853673
>Muslim opinion of Jews: -8
>Atheist opinion of Jews: -17
Damn

>>2853610
>no israelis
antisemtic

>>2854002
You are reading it wrong. The vertical collummn is the group who is being rated horizontal is group giving rating. Every single group has positive opiniom of Jews, but this was an old rating before oct 7. Seems the jewish media does the PR campaign well, but I think the last few uears may have finally been a bridge to far even for the best hasbara.

>>2850415
Elon musk Larry page Jeff bezos Sergei brin Micheal dell mark zuckerburg the swamp is much deeper than one mere ethnicity

>>2850419
Not all of them are at the top and it's not about being ethnically Jewish btw

>>2850425
True though the people are the richest people so they are at the top

>>2850517
>>2850517
>>2850517
>>2850517

NEW, MIGRATE

>>2846364
Unironically, do something about BAP and the entire modern "dissident right" practically collapses in on itself overnight