/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Has there been any confirmation of civilian casualities?

>>2622282
yeah most people are fucking retarded
Though there's not many people in the mainstream media making the argument that US interventions lead to more immigrants, even though it's obvious.

>>2622161
>they're going for a decapitation strike on the leadership.
I think the smelly armchair generals on Zigga Twitter and Telegram need to tell the US that decapitation strikes don't work.

>>2620531
Yes they can. Colonialism isn't a greater concept than capitalism.
>>2620539
>Summoning the great alibi that justified the continuation of the same system that produced the holocaust.
Yeah thank god Stalin did his national liberation thing and made Israel. Hail Sakai.

>>2616770
tf? are you aware that your country is and always has been heavily pro israel on account of the Indian governments anti-muslim discrimination and its rivalry with pakistan?

>>2617232
>Assad's cronies and his family controlled virtually all major businesses
it's true that Alawis and Christians were major supporters and members of the Syrian government, but Assad's government also was packed with sunnis from top to bottom. It's easy to represent it as an ethnic supremacy but it's just the nature of family patronage and kinship is that alawis were easier to put into the government. Plenty of alawis also weren't benefitting from the assad's rule directly except for the secularist and enforcement of nonsectarian rule, while many sunnis were part of the Assad's network of cronyism.

Has Hamas released any statement on the Iran protests happening right now?

>>2622213
Yeah, they support Iranian workers who are getting fucked over by their cucked regime.

>1922
Yeah this was when Lenin was dooming and coping.

>>2621189
It was when he realized war communism brought nothing but misery to proles and peasants.

>>2621189
Even if so then what?

How is he a Marxist when he rejects dialectics which is fundamental to dialectical materialism? He even lends to ridiculous idealizations of bourgeois economics such as the axiom of assuming people are rational actors when people are often irrational and desires and therefore decision making even with perfect rationality differ. His entire anti-woke schtick is really just him being a stereotypical smelly Indian who is trying to find acceptance from white people (more specifically white men) by trash talking progressivism.

>>2621106
>His best quote is "we're all social democrats in the short term" as well as "there have never been any successful revolutions in already established bourgeois democratic states"
Yeah people love to talk about the right way to do shit but we still haven't found it yet. All the successful revolutions have been either in the periphery or in outright undeveloped places (USSR). The situation is different and will necessarily call for different methods. If the standard ML programme was applicable to the "imperial core" and highly developed capitalism, it's had plenty of time to prove it.

>>2621036
Who would win?
<Team Marx:
<Vivek Chibber
<Vijay Prashad
vs
>Team Mises:
>Dinesh D'Souza
>Vivek Ramaswamy
>with surprise tap-in from Ajit Pai

Based

His bungacast episode was great:

https://bungacast.com/2022/03/08/246-why-isnt-there-revolution-ft-vivek-chibber/

>>2621743
The Indian wars

A new California law gives the state more power over workplaces. Trump is suing to block it
A federal judge on Dec. 26 granted the NLRB’s request for a preliminary injunction to keep the law from taking effect, meaning California cannot implement most of its provisions. In addition, the NLRB now has a quorum after the Senate confirmed two of President Trump’s nominees to the board.
https://calmatters.org/economy/2026/01/california-labor-law-under-fire/

DHS pauses immigration applications for an additional 20 countries
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, or USCIS, in a memo released Thursday, said it would pause the review of all pending applications for visas, green cards, citizenship or asylum from immigrants from the additional countries. The memo also outlines plans to re-review applications of immigrants from these countries as far back as 2021.
https://www.npr.org/2026/01/02/g-s1-104284/dhs-pause-immigration-applications-20-countries

Prominent Jan. 6 defendants plan to march to Capitol to mark 5 years since attack
The event is billed as a memorial march honoring Ashli Babbitt and four others who died on or after Jan. 6. Babbitt, a supporter of President Trump's, was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer while a mob attempted to breach the Speaker's Lobby outside the House chamber nearly five years ago. Brian Sicknick, a U.S. Capitol Police officer who died after suffering two strokes after he defended the Capitol during the assault, is also set to be honored.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-capitol-march-5-years/

Judge dismisses Louisville police reform proposal with the US Department of Justice
New DOJ leadership accused the Biden Justice Department of using flawed legal theories to judge police departments and pursuing costly and burdensome consent decrees. The consent decrees with Louisville and Minneapolis were approved by the Justice Department in the final weeks of the Biden administration, but tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

In Iran, the turmoil continues: Steve Bishop member of the executive Committee for the Defence of the Iranian People’s Rights
Protesters have pointed out the bitter irony that while they are asked to “take a war formation” and endure austerity, the budget for ideological military wings has reportedly seen massive increases. One representative from Dehloran recently asked President Pezeshkian in parliament if he could “hear the crushing sound of the people’s footsteps.” The demands of protesters have not been confined to the issues of wages and the economy but have become increasingly political, demanding regime change, with protests echoing to chants of “death to the dictator,” aimed at Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. The regime’s response has been the familiar mix of threats and force. Judiciary chief Gholamhossein Mohseni Ejei has warned of harsh punishments for “hoarding foreign currency,” while police have fired tear gas to disperse the biggest crowds seen since the protests following the death in custody of Mahsa Amini in September 2022. Hundreds of people were killed, more than 20,000 arrested, and several executed in connection with those demonstrations. The situation in Iran is being watched closely by both Israel and the United States, as the threat of further action against the regime from both looms. US President Donald Trump has recently threatened military action if Iran rebuilds its nuclear or missile programmes, warning he will “knock the hell out of them.” For the Iranian people 2026 sees yet more uncertainty, arising from the internal pressures of a collapsing economy and the external pressures of both international sanctions and the threat of further military intervention.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/iran-turmoil-continues

Demonstrations and protests continue in Iran
There are no exact figures, and no one knows how many people have been killed or injured, arrested, or kidnapped. What is clear, however, is that the people have gone beyond demonstrations and protests, and the movement has turned into an uprising. Likewise, their everyday demands about the rising cost of basic necessities have shifted into political demands, reflected in slogans such as “Down with the regime,” “Out, out, dictators,” “Women, life, freedom,” and many others. MePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna

Maybe. Maybe he was a mentally unwell person manipulated by greater forces get to rid of Abe. Most likely he was just a man with problems who sought out a more powerful individual to vent his frustrations at.

Wasn't it something religious?

>>2621972
I believe he was angry at Abe for having connections to the Unification Church. The shooters mother gave a lot of money to the church and he was angry about that. She seems to put the family into economic difficulties because of her donations. They were apparently fairly well off but ended having to rely on of one her brothers for financial support. He had a brother that was also very ill at one point who killed himself. I think the shooters also killed himself.

>>2621975
*shooters father killed himself

>>2621916
>Abe wasn't in office anymore.
>2 years after why bother
He was still active with various think tanks and was generally emblematic of a lot of life ruining shit happening over there.
>>2621975
That too

>>2621155
It was universal in bronze age religions.

>>2621192
The Talmud is from Late Antiquity, not the Bronze Age.

>evolution is when racism
not this shit again

>>2621192
The old testament is an iron age text, not a bronze age text, and the talmud is even newer.

There were racists before the theory of evolution. It's just after the theory came out people used it to jusify their beliefs liked they used the Bible in the past. Racists aren't logical people they will use anything to justify their beliefs.

Not directly replying to the cuck post but, I am yet to say that "I am a marxist-leninst", cause I have not understood Marx and Engles thoroughly. But get why every communist in the past has done so, Marxism-Leninism rests upon the dialectical materialist position. So your actions and decisions can change but the goal is to reach an absolute. The idea is not to interpret but to change the social postions through resolving contradictions.

theres so much wrong here but

<libertarians and certain conspiracy theorists

ok gl never wielding power or accomplishing anything of note, communists will be working to improve your material conditions nevertheless.

itt: anarkiddy retards reveal their ignorance

>>2620523
>In the past, I identified as left-wing
ok but what did you actually do with your life

I'm not reading your text but only commenting on the pics.

that type of 'reasonable libertarian who is actually really cool and pro weed and pro gays and just likes the free market because he is a wholesome little logical chungus' will turn into a genociding fascist when the wind blows a little bit in the other direction.

they did the same pretend infantile left wing shit when bush was around and then ended up supporting trump, out of principle if a wigga has some sort of yellow black snake imagery you have to tell him to fuck off and kill himself, sorry not sorry.

>>2621692
Marriage isn't inherently monogamous and monogamy isn't necessarily something natural. Marriage isn't something tied to the state either since it exists in stateless societies or societies where the state isn't very strong, arguably it plays an even stronger role in those communities. The idea that marriage can be a private affair (it seems your parroting Engels here since he said something similar) is delusional and contradicts Marx actually. Humans make decisions within a social context so no choice is purely private because all of them are shaped by social constraints.

Some soft family/marriage abolitionists still seem to think people will form monogamous relationships by choice in the absence of marriage, but this is just semantics. Its also ironic because they claim to oppose bourgeois sexuality, but then go on to promote monogamy which is very bourgeois. The other types that believe in unrestricted free love not bound by relationships, children raised by the community etc. well people tried that in the 70s and there was a huge spread of STDs.

>>2621694
In the pre-capitalist past, if men ran off they and their family would be punished by the wife's family or civil authorities. In Europe, divorce and abandonment were crimes. In other societies, divorce was permitted but it came with reimbursements and compensation. Today, adultery laws are not enforced in most places where they exist. Men are not punished for abandoning women and children besides alimony payments, which some feminists want to scrap because they reason that a man being bound to pay up is a violation of his individual freedom to quit a relationship.

>>2621659
>When marriage was reduced to just an aesthetic thing (ceremony, wedding dresses etc) that's when gay marriage became possible. It serves basically no purpose whatsoever but it continues to hollow out marriage as an institution.
Capitalism freed people up to live more autonomous sexual lives, but same-sex marriage came around (as a result of a dialectical process) to stabilize people's lives under actually existing capitalist conditions in which security is not socially guaranteed, but privatized through intimate relationships. Bottom-line though is that marriage is an economic unit and marriage has certain benefits like joint property ownership, easier access to credit / mortgages, stuff like that. That's really what this was all about, and that's also really why banks sponsor floats at Pride parades. It's not some grand conspiracy to "distract" people from the class struggle like some socialists have been fond of saying, it's economics at work. Like maybe expanding property ownership makes people more conservative by integrating them into a 30-year fixed mortgage, but what banks care about is producing more mortgageable "units" and expanding the market.

But that's what marriage already was for straight couples. The ceremonies which people spend a lot of money on are ways to kind of mystify it and make it feel dramatic and spiritual. Maybe in the Middle Ages the incense smelt better.

>>2621685
>The need to care for someone whose body is being put under extreme pressure is what made marriage important. Central to that is sacrificing somethings for another person and I don't mean pitty patter responsibilities (who pays rent, who walks the dog) but more meaningful roles and commitments that have to be fulfilled.
Okay but in reality, in the modern world, straight married couples don't necessarily have to have children either. Also in some cases they can't because the woman can't produce children for medical reasons. But that's not really the point. Also there are same-sex couples with children.

>>2621685
>The breaking Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2621659
>>2621685
Communism is not a movement fantasizing about returning to some past of patriarchal relations with isolated petty-bourgeois property, as fantasized by reactionaries. Your analysis is not materialistic and is not based on social class relations. Capitalism destroys the institutions of the past by destroying part of the individualism of private property that maintained patriarchal relations of subjugation. The other part of the property will be socialized with the communist revolution, with the abolition of private property, destroying once and for all any institution that reactionaries cling to, so that the proletarian class becomes the dominant class that will abolish social classes.

Now I will leave you with a quote from Engels:

<[Reactionary Socialists:]
<The first category consists of adherents of a feudal and patriarchal society which has already been destroyed, and is still daily being destroyed, by big industry and world trade and their creation, bourgeois society.>> This category concludes, from the evils of existing society, that feudal and patriarchal society must be restored because it was free of such evils. In one way or another, all their proposals are directed to this end.

<This category of reactionary socialists, for all their seeming partisanship and their scalding tears for the misery of the proletariat, is nevertheless energetically opposed by the communists for the following reasons:

<(i) It strives for something which is entirely impossible.

<(ii) It seeks to establish the rule of the aristocracy, the guildmasters, the small producers, and their retinue of absolute or feudal monarchs, officials, soldiers, and priests – a society which was, to be sure, free from the evils of present-day society but which brought it at least as many evils without even offering to the oppressed workers the prospect of liberation through a communist revolution.

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>>2621200
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>>2621474
OP here. The reason why I find this to be the logical position is because.
>It's wrong to racially target immigrants, and I'm fine with reforming the immigration system in favor of a merit based one, but let's be honest, the reason why 80% of immigrants are in America because the capitalist overlords want cheap labor and screw native workers out of paying minimum wage. Applies to both undocumented immigrants and H1B workers
>Corporations have done more to normalize homosexuality and transsexuality than any gay activist could hope to. When same sex marriage was legalized in 2015, they ran a 1000 commercials a day featuring gay couples in order to get those pinkbux, so much so that it was dubbed the year of LGBT ads
>Corporations love abortions, because it gets them out of paying for a woman's maternity leave. If they could get away with it, they would push for late term abortions.
>Overall, socialist principles sound like they put the nation and its people first. Capitalist principles put money first and the nation is just a host, nothing more.
>>2621308
There's the whole heartbeat thing but frankly, I'm just skeptical of liberal abortion laws because they can serve as a gateway to late term abortions as well as turn abortion into something that can be abused. Of course I'm against strict "life begins at conception" laws too because they can be used to deny a woman abortion in case of rape or if her life is in danger (both of which I support as exceptions). So six weeks is a middle ground for me.

>>2621193
It's fine. People here want to say that
>these specific economic positions considered left-wing in america today and these specific cultural positions considered left-wing in america today are directly connected and inseparable
and they're wrong, there is a lot of leeway. History proves as much. The socialist camp accepted a wide variety of policies on issues as important as all of village life, it's not surprising socialists in different countries could agree to not push their views on things like gay rights onto each other.
>>2621217
>WOMEN SHOULD BE IN THE WORKFORCE AND ENJOY EQUAL RIGHTS AS MEN, GAYS SHOULD BE IN THE WORKFORCE AND ENJOY SAME RIGHTS AS STRAIGHTS
I got the ick from you using the word "rights" too often, sorry libtard. But seriously, it's a very vague and moralistic thing to say in most contexts. And that's by design, you can say "man has a right to freedom and pursuit of happiness" and then say "oh but nonwhites and women are not included in the definition of man teehee". If you think modern discourse around rights is all that different, grow up.
Productive forces are stagnating in western countries at best. No advancement in production is related to gay rights or third wave feminism, actual value-producing workers tend to be quite far from these changes for the most part, especially the most important ones that are involved with production of the means of production.

>>2621552
Its not that the other person is left in the dirt, but there is allocation of utilities based on needs because there are people producing such utilities to make it available of distribution to begin with. The mode of consumption is constructed from the mode of production to reproduce the relations of the mode of production.

"As the coat and the linen are two qualitatively different use values, so also are the two forms of labour that produce them, tailoring and weaving. Were these two objects not qualitatively different, not produced respectively by labour of different quality, they could not stand to each other in the relation of commodities. Coats are not exchanged for coats, one use value is not exchanged for another of the same kind."

>>2621526
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>>2621633
>what if i take ur shit as if communism is just capitalism minus "property" XDDDDDDDDD and not an entirely different mop and all the new relations that entails
why tf would u (yes u >>2621547 >>2621631 ) even bother engaging with this retardation

>>2621521
The text that was posted seems to imply a lack of economic planning in collective ownership; scientific socialism also involves the abolition of the anarchy of production, and it's important to understand that this will irritate some people who are against what is called "authoritarianism" in economic planning.

>>2621668
on the contrary, a mode of production is entirely concrete but ur retarded brain is too smooth to understand even that

>>2621669
social planning isnt really the central planning retards like cockshit who dont even understand value pretend it is