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>uhm, actually, u can't have socialist revolution in non western countries u need industry and developed capitalism first
Bolsheviks: *simply buys industry from the west, develops capitalism, then collectivises everything like a boss*
>uhm… Slavs are subhuman

Was this guy retarded or what. Did he think nation borders were a magical force field that siloed historical development? Once capitalist industry emerges, it seems obvious that bringing it to another part of the world is a mere practical question
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He was right tho. There was only one actual communist revolution (USSR), and that later collapsed because of economic conditions, isolation and intense opportunism arising from the large non-proletarian sections of Russia.

But today, almost the entire world is industrialized, and revolution can happen anywhere.

>>2828501
Bureaucracy took over the USSR because of how backwards Russia was around the 1910s. Permanent revolution would've solved everything.

>>2828624
>revolution can happen anywhere
the strength of our opposition is not uniform across space. weakest in the chain.
Neither uniform is the strength of our revolutionary organization of the conscious class, militant and activated in the unions, economic, social and cultural. It too has hot concentrations and cold spots, across the terrain.
>>2828634
Trots have had ample time to take the L. That you're mostly just tailing social fascists to this very day is embarrassing. You're just as dogmatic and inflexible as Hoxhaists. Intelligent Leninists learned the failures of the United Front from Above in the early 20s. You're just another mutation of radlibs, but with additional steps than even the socdems.

>>2828501
Fuck you, OP.

>>2828644
We don't abandon the international working class under any circumstances.

>>2828650
Apparently you can't tell the international working class from the international bourgeoisie. But you always were mensheviks first and bolsheviks for clout. How's Corbyn doing, leading the proletarian revolution? Has he got any artillery from his comrade EU bureaucrats in Brussels yet? NO?? Bummer…



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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/15/oqst-m15.html

>Trade union leaders call for orderly transition from Starmer to police working class opposition


<Britain’s trade union bureaucracy is working overtime to suppress mounting hostility in the working class to the Labour government, amid the deepening crisis surrounding Keir Starmer’s premiership…
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>>2827781
Nelson Mandela of all people agreed with you

>>2828119
>palestine
>hitlerite nationalism
are you german or israeli? either way tie a knot and hang yourself now. do palestinians want a state for one ethnoreligious group only? no, not even hamas does. do israelis want that? look at their actions the last 75 years or so.

>>2828534
It's pretty funny that it happenned to Cenk after now years of trying to appeal to MAGA and other right wing freaks.

maybe i've just been reading too many insane libertarian cranks, but i can't help but roll my eyes when reading socdems these days. "why doesn't the government simply implement an industrial strategy, throw loads of money at industry, generally slap together a good economy single-handedly instead of relying on the market" motherfucker the government can't build a single railway line, have you looked at the government, if the government ran the supermarkets you'd starve to death. it doesn't matter that this isn't a fundamental law of economic reality and that governments in some places and some times can be competent: your actually-existing government is a joke!
forget industrial strategy and big LARPing photos with re-opened shipyards and coal mines, forget "reversing" neoliberalism that never mostly didn't happen in the first place, if you were given absolute power tomorrow you would spend the next 15 years constructing the fundamental infrastructure for implementing policy and you'd likely still fail. but you won't even do that because you can't even organize a party or a takeover of an existing party, or a fucking think tank. as above: so below!

socialists have the same problem times a thousand. less frustrating than socdems because it's easier to see it's in the realm of pure fantasy, but still eye-rolling: what if instead of the state doing a few things, it did everything? what if we tried new planning mechanisms that have never been tried anywhere, or old ones that failed elsewhere, or this really cool one that totally works in china where the state builds a billion miles of railway a day and beats you up if you put your hand in the till, what if we overthrew the entire existing order of things when so far we haven't even been able to get 15 people to show up to a meeting on wednesday without getting into big arguments about who we'll take our our petty psychosexual frustrations on first once we take absolute power, which will happen any day now.




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the current right wing strategies

  1. thinking magic is real thus circlejerking everything you can into an ergragore

  2. waiting for a caesar to show up

  3. refusing to come to terms with china being socialist and thinking hyper accelerating finance capital will defeat it
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>>2827858
Who exactly are you saying is supporting China here?

>>2827858
Critical support to BJP for crushing reactionary Islamists and Maoist ultras who are proven to mismanage the productive forces. India's GDP growth over the last 30 years proves we must support India. All criticism of India is foreign glowie propaganda whose goal is to hurt India's industrialization.

>>2817297
so magic is just marketing/charisma?

>>2816182
  1. pretending to be communists

>>2817048
Come on, I don't even consider myself that much of a full-on communist, but even I see that China is the most powerful, or second most powerful nation on Earth (depending on the metric).



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Janice Fiamengo is one of the go-to “researchers” among MRAs when it comes to citing an “expert” on feminism to the extent that one of her articles got hosted by kosher right outlet PJ Media and, despite MRAs circle-jerking over her, most feminists have barely heard of her. Indeed, I can only think of one feminist response to her, and it amounts to just an answer post at Quora: https://www.quora.com/What-arguments-do-you-have-for-or-against-Professor-Janice-Fiamengos-view-on-feminism/answer/Frederic-Christie?ch=17&oid=27190247&share=dd688188&srid=3gfRuZ&target_type=answer

I should also note that, in spite of her many interviews with various outlets across the Canadian and American right-o-sphere, she still remains an obscure figure and you’ll never see her ever debate her views on video. Hmm, wonder why? 🤔

I wouldn’t talk about her if it wasn’t for the fact that she is one of the most cited female apologists for the manosphere, and her audience is mostly made up of run-of-the-mill chuds and MAGApedes who circle jerk over her as shown by how almost every result shows her works whenever you type her name on search engines.

Now, while I’m unfamiliar with her academic work in English literature back when she was professor of English at Ottawa university, I am familiar with her anti-feminist polemics and overall right-liberal takes on other matters.

So, first let’s get out of the way and say that she does point out many flaws in the history of feminism such as the disdain towards men shown by even some of the first-wave feminist figures, the elite-driven nature of feminism that runs contrary to the rugged individual image common in the mainstream, as well as the anti-social behaviour they display since the second wave.

But with that said, that’s where my praises for her ends, since I’m really critical of her since despite her facade she is merely an ideologue that uses factoids to spin a narrative that fits into the chudintern’s incessant culture war paradigm.

A key example would be her take on Emmeline Pankhurst and her mail bombing campaign that led to her arrest, as well as her securing female suffrage in exchange for promoting the BriPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Now, as to why MRAs won’t help men? Simply put it, they are just one of many idpol groups whose sole purpose is to divide the working class by pointing to men’s issues without addressing the systemic factors underlying it in favor of culture war-type sloppy narratives that demonise feminists and women but not the capitalists that make men’s lives (as well as women’s) miserable.

Indeed, their portrayal of feminism as all-powerful has been discredited with the repeal of the Roe v Wade by the SCOTUS where feminists were largely incapable of stopping the various state-level anti-abortion legislations. Another discrediting factor is that most MRAs, due to their right-wing proclivities, are often incapable of genuine economic critique as most chuds are, so they often resort to spooks like feminism and boomers and sometimes “woke” to explain away the general degradation of living standards for men of all races

Sure, they may be spot on as it pertains to how society favors women more than men, but apart for a left-wing minority, most MRAs are just chuds so their solutions either amount to “reforming” the stuff they shit on like marriage and family, but not once they ever challenge any of those patriotic institutions that make men’s lives miserable, instead pretending that patriarchy would be good without “gynocentrism”.

Ofc some of those chuddish MRAs do acknowledge how a patriarchy often reconstructs the very things they hate, but they’ll support the right wing anyway just because they find the left “icky” both because the left is pro-equality and because of chuds’ general inability to question their own priors. Indeed, many of those white MRAs turn into MeToo-supporting feminazis whenever news of brown-on-white sex or rape is brought up.

Indeed, since angry young white men get nothing out of voting for right-wing parties, it wouldn’t be wrong to describe them as the battered wives or the cucks of the political spectrum because, as much as African Americans are admonished for overwhelmingly voting Democrat for decades, at least the latter gets something out of it in terms of secured civil service jobs. Angry young chuds get nothing at all in contrast.

Basically: MRAs can diagnose the issues with society’s mistreatment of men of various races (despite the overwhelming focus on white men), but their focus on idpol shit and shifting blame from porkies to women and minorities makes them complicit in putting young white menPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>pre-1914 (tsarist state)
3k bolsheviks
>mar 1917 (provisional state)
80k bolsheviks
>nov 1917 (soviet state)
240k bolsheviks

meow.
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>>2828026
>The peasantry as a whole was a huge blindspot for most early marxists its very weird how they thought they could achieve a revolution and overthrow society with only 10% of the population on their side.
they thought stolypin would turn all the peasants into proles. when that didn't happen they began courting the peasants and did it themselves through rapid industrialization after winning the civil war

>>2828032
>Communism is not a popularity contest nor does it concern itself with vulgar populism and majoritarianism as liberals do.
This sort of apophatic theory where you can only say what Communism is not is so tiring.
> With the exception of the impoverished proletariat the vast majority of any given population will violently oppose communism, necessitating party command of military force
well obviously force must be used to carry out a revolution, there are plenty of countries that have an impoverished proletarian majority, and those are the countries where revolution is most likely to succeed. because surprise surprise, it's easier to carry out your political program when you aren't seen as yet another ruling minority that rules at the expense of a majority, which, surprise surprise, even most impoverished proles dislike seeing. Unless you think the proles are sadistic little gremlins who enjoy it when the peasantry, petty bourgeoisie, lumpen also get stomped into dust by the ruling class.

>>2828022
They were a very popular party. In what world is a party winning 25% of the popular vote not popular? Millions of people voted for them so it's only natural that hundreds of thousands would join the party. Returning to the OP, this can also be seen in Duma elections under the Tsar where the estate-based unrepresentative electoral system set aside only a small fraction of seats to be elected by workers (with a restrictive franchise at that), the Bolsheviks won all the seats in the workers curia even then under conditions of repression and illegality. So while the party membership number may create an illusion (often repeated by modern leninists of all stripes) of the bolsheviks being this elite tiny vanguard that explodes in popularity in the revolutionary situation based on their correct theory, the truth is the bolsheviks has been the deeply entrenched party of the russian proletariat for two decades at that point, with their papers having substantial circulation and winning deputies even under the insanely unrepresentative duma electoral system. If anything the notable thing in 1917 is the growth of Bolshevik support among peasants based on their opposition to the war and support for land seizures which helps peel of the bulk of the SRs to the side of the soviets.
As for the constituent assembly elections, they obviously didn't have the support of a majority of the entire population but they absolutely did have the support of a vast majority of proletarians actually who overwhelmingly voted for the Bolsheviks, hence their very large majorities in urban constituencies, also large majorities in army and naval garrisons reflecting their overwhelming support among soldiers and sailors. The demographics of russia being as they were even getting every single proletarian behind you wouldn't be close to enough to reach 50% of the vote, the country was majority peasant and the peasants though many voted for the Bolsheviks too, overwhelmingly backed the SRs and the fate of the constituent assembly had far more to do with the Socialist Revolutionary party than the bolsheviks, since the party split during the elections with a majority of the party's base and activists being expelled for their support of soviet power and the revolution, while the rump party leadership, which in reality had now very little support reduced to the progressive intelligentPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2828177
It's also worth noting that the Bolsheviks were aware of the limits of their popularity and sought to address this issue by offering the SRs a coalition.




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>>2828244
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>>2828245
whine impotently on the internet

>>2828250
thanks for your honesty

>>2828094
I thought one of the funnier things about the French Revolution was how every group accused the others of being traitors and secretly working with foreign governments. Many such cases.



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I think it’s interesting to observe the pattern of technological development in Africa compared to NATO. A lot of what’s being made there is surprisingly specific, pragmatic, and efficient compared to many new western technologies that often serve as solutions to problems western companies make.

Technologies built around mobile systems; efficient use of clay, cement, and steel metals; decentralized utility and logistics systems; a lot of work related to solar power which im happy for; some oddly specific technological developments surrounding armoured cars, surveillance, and border security etc.

From what I infer a lot of this behaviour is driven organically by the geographic conditions of the continent in general. Many of the resources on the continent are stretched across vast distances, sparse/scarce in supplies, and broken up by unusually poor terrain. This often means that any technological developments made are unusually way more specific, pragmatic, and efficient in use for immediate and existing problems compared to tech made outside of it where figures or promises on features surrounding what the tech can do. Sometimes, this does *alot* to change how people approach life. It’s only recently that a lot of changes were made so that desert sands and earth could be used conventionally at scale to produce modular construction kit—this is huge on construction in general since it offers a way to build on the scale that china did *without causing the same level of ecological destruction*.



 

Hice un ensayo para un concurso, como casi no sé ni lo que es un ensayo quiero que me digan que tal está. Soy muy joven asique disculpen si está mal redactado, aparte de que no he leído mucho. Espero que les guste

Tienes ganas de aprender, pero la forma de redactar se siente informal, tampoco tiene bibliografía ni trata de explicar la economía en detalle. ¿Qué edad tienes? Sin ofender, pero parece una redacción escrita por un chaval en bachillerato.

Y otra cosa, en este board solo se permite el inglés, así que probablemente tirarán este hilo. Si quieres discutir con otros hispanohablantes, usa /latam/ mejor. Pero me alegro de encontrar a otro español aquí

You have to cite each fact. Not just throw it at the end in bibliography. Also, a good intellectual excercise would be to challenge your ideas. With your knowledge about political economy, marxism and the history of the UUSR you could make a critique of the USSR and the decissions it took.



 

I've made a fascinating discovery. Leftypol, or rather its users, have direct power to influence the output of AI services. I've been spamming Leftypol with my hot takes a lot over the past few weeks, and voila: they're appearing in Grok and Perplexity!

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/85ab939d-16f5-40e4-9a51-348bc0161bae

https://leftypol.org/meta/res/37383.html#q44572
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>>2795286

This is what revisionists imagine maoists discussions to be like

>>2794589
>ai scrapes the web for user takes
this has been know for years. how is this an insight that warranted its own thread? might as well have put this in /isg/

>>2795403
the original post was made to satire leninhat, as was the video, which was made with elevenlabs rather than really voice acted


Nu uh



 

>isolate the allies to the point Armenian has no other choices to appeasement of EU
>threaten le Denazification of Armenia

Russia really needs better leadership at this point, his brain got destroyed after COVID and mismanagement of Ukraine war.
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>>2828073
Lobotomy, the party

>>2827948
It is a ticking time bomb because Putin is beginning to do arrests of communists including KPRF members and as >>2827755 align more with the LDPR to counter them. It is going to backfire because it shows the Communists are getting persecuted for things the workers want and will increasingly radicalized the populous. It is why they are attempting to rehabilitate Stalin but even Lenin is seeing skyrocketing rise in his approvals as well. Putin is between a rock and a hard place on what the next move is to please the national bourgeois and not have October 2.0 happen

Part of being a Russian leader is keeping Russians poor. It keeps them on their toes.

Why is this dude in power in the first place? And why hasnt the military or national bourgeoisie overthrown him already?

>>2828162
the cucktin narrative may mislead you to believe he is not useful to the national bourgeoisie, but the concentration of wealth in the russian economy is proceeding well so they have no reason to mind him



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