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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Copypasting the past OP edition



The American question is: how does a settler-imperialist nation transform itself into a decolonized socialist commonwealth without either reproducing the imperial form or fragmenting into balkanized enclaves that allow capital to reconstitute, while resolving the contradictions of internal colonization and liberating its external colonies, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?


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>>2909358
people think they can ride it to the top and cash out before it crashes. basically "nah i'd win" mentality.

>>2908924
Least obvious psyop
>mask mandate enforced
That one is good though. Covid is still circulating and infecting people, and so are plenty of other respiratory infections.

>>2908924
>mask mandate enforced
based


>>2909358
people love thinking they can beat the odds before becoming a statistic.
mildly more charitably you can hypothetically cash out early if you can ignore FOMO



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Pretty much everyone under 50 in the US is aware that the drug war failed. Once we rule out those on the right who feel that the only reason it failed was a lack of authoritarianism, need it to justify various prejudices towards the "wrong" sort of people etc.. and the like, we come down to even vaguely centrists from a social point of view and an even wider group for economic ones (though the specifics of implementation may differ), see that this is a failed, ineffective strategy. Especially among those who define themselves as left leaning, why is ending the drug war and replacing it with legalization and regulated, affordable substances a greater political focal point?

Every historical and material example shows that prohibition is not going to be effective and brings its own problems, not to mention that the motivation for these policies were often intentional to hurt varying groups of people deemed undesirable - from the entire alcohol prohibition era until its repeal for instance, or the now famous Nixon staffer talking about how drugs were an easy way to target 'the hippies, mexicans, and blacks', the cocaine era and crack epidemic, AIDS being spread by sharing needles, and so much more. Its now common knowledge that not only did "drugs win the drug war, and continue to do so" but all the harm done by it also made profiteers wealthy, from narco traffickers who operated private armies, to the whole Iran-Contra affair and Air America black budget work in the Golden Triangle during and after Vietnam, to military-industrial complex extended to militarized policing etc. Most of the money went to a handful of people from the criminal enterprise or those ostensibly fighting it, while people paid more for worse quality, less safe products. This is no longer the kind of thing you'd only read about from some underground zine next to psychotic ramblings, its well documented and seemingly, accepted . So why are we not doing anything about it ?

It seems that the only lefties who comment on the drug issue at all are those with the myopic to just plain incorrect issue of fixating on pharmaceutical companies, doctors etc.. at fault for things like the opioid crisis, which is far from the truth. While certain companies like Perdue Pharma were guilty of malfeasance (the specifics here I can get into but the way they advertised it even to medical professionals was inaccurate ) and there were cash only "pill mill" doctorsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2895042
Well maybe, but I rarely see them taking strong stances on it despite it being something that both socially and economically could be beneficial and even signal a break with the status quo. You don't see incoming candidates saying they're going to legalize ALL drugs and put an end to punitive "drug war" policies, changing how we interact with them and offering a new vision to replace the old one that clearly isn't working

>>2895073
To some degree, but I wonder how much of that are those that are ideologically opposed to 'drugs' or 'drug users'. From a purely financial standpoint, they could do just as they did with nicotine vapes and simply join in selling something different. Kinda like how the same beverage companies that pushed alcohol have now also started buying up brands of non-alcoholic "boutique mocktail" alternatives because there's a certain demographic who don't drink like they used to. Same could be with drugs. While I have no interest in watching Anheiser-Busch attempt to monopolize cannabis with "Bud Lite huhhuhuhehehee Bud" I'd rather have them as one of many vendors offering a product than it be illegal. WE've seen even oil companies take dips into everything from ethanol to solar when it was financially easier for them to do so vs trying to fight against the tide (of course the current administration has now pushed that back twice) but its an option. Its usually easier for them to join rather than trying to beat them back, even if we're just talking profit potential. Of course, any leftist should need to craft policy to ensure that profiteering won't allow megacorps to control the industry and push out healthier, ethical competitors but that's sort of universal no matter what we're talking about from food to drugs.

>>2895092
>War on drugs, war on people
I already mentioned this, but that's the things people figured it out and its now common knowledge. Nixon's chief of staff (I think) has the comment about how they can't make it illegal to be black or protest the war, but if they associate blacks with heroin and hippies with marijuana, they have reaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

This site would improve considerably if everyone here used some more drugs.

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>>2894888 No can do anon, the empire needs its permanent backdoor to interference in Latin American politics

bro, die kapitalistische gesellschaft der gegenwart ist dermaßen geflutet mit drogen wie nie zuvor. kinder kaufen im kiosk lachgas, auf tiktok kann jeder normie amphetamine und pilze kaufen. und dann gibt es ja noch die digitalen drogen. der zugang zu drogen war noch nie einfacher als heute.

The drug war succeeded in Maoist China because they were willing to do what must be done: executing even low level dealers. :)



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Hi IVE been a communist for a few years now at least I think though the problem is that IVE neve read Marx
Though I have read the 1st paragraph of the communist manifesto however im not sure if im still communist I support AES and the ussr etc… though to be fair IVE only ever read 2-5 books(not counting textbooks)(counting assigned books) in my 20+ years of existing im also autistic though IVE watched communist videos on YouTube in fact that’s how I found this site and my ideology and political views and my personality IVE also watched Finnishbolshevs video on the history of phillosophy so am I just too stupid to understand Marx or even any philosophy and reading or am I a larper(dont feel as that’s the case as IVE been a communist for 3 years and have tried to learn more) or am I a truly faithful to the cause and a great true communist revolutionary im also not apart of any orgs
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>>2909063
>reading a summary of summary of a summary of das kapital
What were they doing

>>2909063
What's next on this page? Fellating social-democrats for building assistance offices, which never solved any problems ever and only existed to scam people for donations?

why are many anti communists fearmongering if they think it is a failure? What would you have to worry about unemployed losers who make bad memes?

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>>2909063
>I have not read it



 

Genel Türkiye siyaseti ile ilgili konuşun!

Li ser siyaseta giştî ya Tirkiyê biaxive!

Şıma qısey bıkı Poliya Turika!

Yurtişi siyaseti p'ara yoxaleps!

تحدثوا عن السياسة العامة في تركيا!
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any laz anons?
what are some resources to learn the language? an anki deck would be nice
we need to establish a proper movement to preserve the language and the culture

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Gobble gobble.

>>2881349
there are millions of syrian refugees and only like 250k of them have turkish citizenship

>nationalist Movement Party (MHP) leader Devlet Bahceli on Wednesday renewed his call for imprisoned Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) founder Abdullah Ocalan to be granted a legal “right to hope” that could eventually allow his release, after becoming the first person to sign a new framework bill for Turkey’s ongoing Kurdish peace process.

<After becoming first signatory to Turkey’s peace process bill, Bahceli also called for the release of jailed former Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) co-chair Selahattin Demirtas and the reinstatement of elected mayors Ahmet Turk and Ahmet Ozer, who were removed from office and replaced by government-appointed trustees.


>“I am saying the same thing again. Selahattin Demirtas should return home, the Ahmets should return to their posts, and Ocalan should be granted the right to hope. Turkey must find peace,” Bahceli said.

Why is the arch Conservative saying this? I don't really get it

turkey just reached its highest ever pisa score and it's now above almost every country in europe



 

https://duihua.org/two-restraints-one-leniency-part-i-chinas-ethnic-minorities-and-criminal-law/
>China’s criminal policy of “Two Restraints, One Leniency” (liangshao yikuan 两少一宽) was enacted during the administration of reformist leader Hu Yaobang (1982-1987). Derived from a Soviet-era policy that granted regional autonomy and preferential protection to ethnic minorities, the policy had the intended purpose of strengthening the political loyalty of ethnic minorities in the multi-national country. Hu believed that granting sufficient autonomy to members of ethnic minority groups was indispensable for safeguarding national unity. To this end, Hu improved ethnic representation in politics across autonomous regions. This progressive policy was reversed by Deng Xiaoping and Hu’s successors. In 1984, Hu pushed through the Central Committee Document Number Five, a new criminal policy which called on law enforcement to be lenient towards criminal offenders from ethnic minority groups by making fewer arrests and handing down fewer executions and lighter sentences to ethnic minority offenders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liangshaoyikuan
>Liangshaoyikuan (Chinese: 兩少一寬; lit. 'two fewers [in arrests and executions] and one leniency [in sentencing]'), was a policy of the government of the People's Republic of China of giving leniency in charges and sentences with regard to minorities as compared to Han for the same criminal offenses.[1] The policy was enacted in 1984 by Peng Zhen and Hu Yaobang. On July 9, 2010, a statement jointly published by the Publicity Department of the Chinese Communist Party, State Ethnic Affairs Commission, and United Front Work Department suggested that "everyone should be equal before the law, and criminals should be punished regardless of their ethnicity". However, they do not have the legal authority to challenge a policy implemented by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, a higher authority; the policy has thus never been officially repealed.
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>>2909287
There was nothing ever said about communism having “infinite possibilities”. That is not a scientifically proven value.

>>2909294
So you’re against scientific socialism? Figured that’d be the position of someone who thinks they can just vote themselves out of communism.

>>2909300
>The only successes of “scientific” socialism so far are spreading capitalism to the semi feudal semi colonial nations of the world
That in itself is historically progressive, which is a success.
>the proletariat wholly rejects it in the advanced capitalist world and for good reason
<Source: my ass
>if implemented it would just be the status quo but slightly worse
And how would it be slightly worse?

>>2909315
>It’s not historically progressive
A feudalist now? Interesting
>the proletariat is not a revolutionary class in the first world, in fact there is no revolutionary class in capitalism at all
And a revisionist? Fascinating.

AES dumbass



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The emergence of capitalism is recent and things have accelerated faster than people can adapt to. We are used to foraging, hunting, farming, fishing, or scavenging. But now you can work in the rat wheel for 8 hours a day for five days a week, at minimum, to be able to afford obesity, rentals, and carcinogenic drugs. Capitalism is awkward to humankind; we are used to frolicking freely in the sun.

Replace "capitalism" with "civilisation" and you are even more correct.



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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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So much blood has beeen spilled for new generation to come up with new idpol issues to argue about . Ist really sad and 50 years too late to argue about cultural preferces.

>>2907392
>>2907393
Whether people like to admit it or not, they influenced online alt-left humor, which really isn’t taken from the right so much as it is from stand-up and shock-jock traditions.
Shock-jock humor is edgy, offensive and smarmy but it’s also inherently neurotic, self-deprecating and cowardly. It’s not really the kind of humor you’d ever see from a confident or well-adjusted guy. it’s the kind of humor you’d associate with someone who could get his ass handed to him by literally anyone else.

>>2907396
Stav literally bragged about how he voted for Madami for Assemblyman over some Greek woman.

You just sound like you have a recency/hipster bias.

>>2907708
>Shock-jock humor is edgy, offensive and smarmy but it’s also inherently neurotic, self-deprecating and cowardly.
I'm not sure what you mean by this but maybe I'm not too familiar with ye old shock jocks. I agree the dirtbag left has (or had) a kind of passive edginess, like the "safe" anti-Italian racism, or the "safe" horniess of wanting women to step on their balls or whatever, but the shock jock would just be racist and chauvinist, I thought.

>>2908962
>I'm not sure what you mean by this but maybe I'm not too familiar with ye old shock jocks
You know that 99% of those guys are wimps who act like the biggest faggots in the world when anyone physically threatens them.



 

Trump is histoically progressive for collasping USA and jan 6th was histoically progressive because it humilated the USA for a second time in a century
>short
>short flood
>short
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>>2908877
>Why is such low quality ragebait on this board?
>>2909011
>This is ragebait?
It's the same xhem reporting all the interesting threads

>>2908867
Are we sure he’s gonna collapse the U.S.? The U.S. was already collapsing he’s just tryna stabilise at the cost of the livelihood of most Americans.

>>2908867
Y'all been saying that Trump is totally gonna cause the collapse of AmeriKKKa in just 2 more weeks since 2016

>>2908877
They think it's /pol/ where they can just drop a fat ogre shit right in front of you and demand that you take them seriously.




 

>their greatest achievement in 15 years of existence was electing a Zionist pedophile to the White House
Can we already say the alt-right was a massive failure?
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>>2908824
>pedo
What are you basing that on?

Well it WAS a board created by epstein. What do you expect?

>>2907200
And your greatest achievement was taking over 9000 uyghur cocks in your ass.

>>2908903
Xi pls stop obsessing about Xinjang so much it's not healthy.

>>2907445
>>2907444
Why do they have hard trouble on edging to Normies?
>>2907774
>immortalizing a shooter
It’s making fun of him
>>2907200

Yes I hear some people say that modern groyper are alt right which yeah back in the day though nowadays THEYRE just Normies the alt-right due to it being replaced by a new far right



 

Presidential election 2027: Fabien Roussel officially announces his candidacy and sets out to conquer the Élysée Palace once again
This candidacy confirms the PCF's desire to maintain an independent voice in the presidential race. For several years, Fabien Roussel has championed a platform strongly focused on work and purchasing power. He notably proposed replacing the RSA (basic income support) with a salary linked to employment or training.
https://entrevue.fr/en/presidentielle-2027/presidentielle-2027-fabien-roussel-officialise-sa-candidature-et-repart-a-lassaut-de-lelysee/
https://archive.ph/95bNI

Sikh federation and Indian Workers Association condemn visit of far-right RSS leader to London gurdwara
The RSS is an umbrella of community organisations and paramilitary bodies aligned with India’s ruling BJP, which actually originated as the civilian wing of the RSS. It is regularly accused of organising violent attacks on religious minorities in India as well as against secular political parties and women’s groups.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/sikh-federation-condemns-visit-far-right-rss-leader-london-gurdwara

Far-right AfD wins key German state election but falls just short of majority
That was far ahead of Merz’s CDU , which polled 17.2% – losing about half its support – and won 15 seats. The centre-left Social Democrats polled 9.3%, the Greens 8.9% and the Left party 8.6%, winning eight seats apiece. The BSW party, which has said it would not elect either Siegmund or incumbent Sven Schulze as governor but criticises the “firewall” against AfD, took 5.3% and five seats. Participation in the election was at a record high of 76.5%.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/06/saxony-anhalt-germany-afd-exit-poll-ulrich-siegmund

Germany fights GazPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Melenchon bigger tho

The poorest in the US can’t find housing even as low-income units sit empty
The poorest people in the U.S. face the most acute shortages of affordable homes. But the majority of low-income housing financed in recent years is for those earning 50% of an area’s median income or above, according to a survey of state housing agencies. Some cities are now seeing an uptick in vacancies as rents for these units approach market rates. The result: Apartments designated as affordable sit empty because the poorest of the poor cannot afford them. Meanwhile, some people are forced into homelessness and others into desperate circumstances to pay for housing they can’t afford.
https://apnews.com/article/affordable-housing-shortage-poorest-us-80fab2a0fb645e4d629b0ef7e3c2b496

US labor unions saw membership gains in 2025, mostly in states with bargaining protections
States with collective bargaining protections saw an increase of nearly 305,000 union members in 2025, compared to about 107,000 in “right-to-work” states. States with protections have over 10.9 million members out of 76.9 million workers, compared to “right-to-work” states that have 3.7 million members out of 69.7 million workers.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/07/labor-unions-membership-increase

Federal investigators probe Amazon cargo jet’s fiery runway crash that killed 5 in Miami
Video of Sunday’s landing appears to show the Boeing 767 remaining airborne well down the runway before touching down. Aviation experts said investigators will seek to determine exactly where the plane landed and, if it was beyond the normal touchdown zone, why the pilots did not abandon the landing and circle back for another attempt.
https://apnews.com/article/cargo-plane-crash-miami-airport-amazon-prime-d5118998e880f380a3fd8786e35fd9bb

‘Nakedly political’: US attempts to link trans support to leftwing authoritarianism in new health department rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2908852
Yah, they mentioned that in the article. Was gonna put that part in but decided on his platform instead.

Tybna

Life Under Blockade: an Interview with Cuba’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Bruno Rodriguez
In Havana in August 2026, Helen Yaffe and Nina Blodau interviewed Cuba’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Bruno Rodríguez, for Cuba Analysis Podcast. Produced in collaboration with Belly of the Beast Cuba, the full episode is available via their channels and website. Below we publish a transcript of the interview.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2026/09/07/life-under-blockade-an-interview-with-cubas-minister-of-foreign-affairs-bruno-rodriguez/

Dutch strike wave: welfare not warfare!
The Dutch government is trying to impose a budget which cuts billions from the welfare state to spend billions on imperialist rearmament. This week, thousands of workers from across the Netherlands – dockers, rail and transport workers, metalworkers, brewers, civil servants and cleaners – are striking to stop them. This is the biggest strike wave in decades. Its potential is enormous. Just a few hundred dockers in Rotterdam have shut down the busiest port in Europe, responsible for 30 percent of the EU’s container trade, in direct response to cuts that are explicitly designed to fund militarist spending. This movement is just a glimpse of the potentially unstoppable power of even a fraction of the European working class. With a militant lead, this force could bring the ruling classes to their knees and deal a blow against the continent-wide rush to remilitarise, paid for by the working class.
https://marxist.com/dutch-strike-wave-welfare-not-warfare.htm

MKP’s Call for “Unity” WHY ARE WE SEPARATE, OR WHAT IS OUR DIFFERENCE?
Revolution is, of course, the work of the working class, the other labouring masses and, in total, the masses. The existence of oppressed and exploited classes constitutes the objective conditions of revolution. But without organizing the subjective force that provides leadership to the labouring masses under oppression and domination, it is not possible to carry the revolution to victory. More clearly, the leadership of the vanguard parties over the working class and the othePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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