/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

<instead of changing the bourgeois school system invented in Prussia, let's kill the teachers, this will surely accomplish something
Infantile disorder. Petty-bourgeois radicalism. And communists on leftypol and the rest of the internet continue to make the same error of not actually studying anything except communist texts, and then think they know how to run society. What they fail to understand is that communist texts are like physics books, physics books don't actually teach you engineering, nor do engineering books teach you how to be a car mechanic. I hope that analogy makes sense because I struggle to articulate more concisely why the current approach leads to retardation like the Cultural Revolution, or the various man error famines that occured in 20th century socialist states.

>>2804348
because i said so

>>2804183
who are you even arguing with though? most people would agree with this even communists and maoists no?

>>2809572
when did marx told people to go kill teachers thoughbeit

>>2806296
>due to the "scientific" language you use, you will never actually achieve the "Mass Line"
thats not historically true the poorest from the third world are often more receptive to this scientific language than the propagandized workers of the west that they actually understand what the fancy words mean is entirely another issue

HOXHAISTS REDEEMED, THIS MUST BE THE PRE-REVISIONIST POINT

Another leftcom win

The main problem with anti-civ ideology in my estimation is that it cannot be implemented because there is no collective will to implement it, and if it were, the people implementing it would be committing suicide. Nature is struggle and evolution. Technology and civilization evolved out of nature. They are not purely and simply a negation of nature. If a bird can build a nest an ape can build house, and eventually, a city, surrounded by farms, paying grain tribute to the temple. The productive forces and forms of exploitation develop alongside the advancement of technique, and the game-theoretical logic of the various forms of human struggle run themselves automatically, independent of our individual willpowers, or our desire to negate the logic of competition for scarce resources with increasingly advanced technologies, or our conservative nostalgic desire to RETVRN fundamentally rooted in moralism: A desire to return to a beautiful and uncorrupted state of nature, when people lived short, brutal, lives, died of simple infections, bone fractures, sometimes dying for mistakes as simple as foraging the wrong fruit/vegetable/fungus and dying for it. To wage anti-civilizational struggle is to wage struggle against the very same productive forces we have accumulated which allow us to multiply and specialize. If technology is an arms race, and the people with the superior technologies and numbers of trained troops win struggles most of the time, then it follows that anti-civilizational struggle is the struggle of the weak, unarmed, and numerical minority to not merely disarm the strong, armed, majority, but to destroy those arms so they are never used again. There is no realistic path to do this. It is a fantasy.

>>2809468
Ancient peoples lived under constant and total social surveillance. Not even modern people with all our spyware begin to approach the reality of ancient life. They lived in a tribe that demanded total devotion and without which they would perish. The destruction of that unit was the same process as creation of the family.
Now you know why anarchists are fascist. Fascists wish they could capture a tiny portion of that spirit of ancient man.

Moved to >>>/siberia/781868.

And Pakistan is totally not a deeply reactionary and oppressive country today and treats its minorities perfectly well right?

1) Kashmir is 35% Hindu (the original indigenous inhabitants of India)

2) Those Hindus would fight a civil war rather than join Pakistan and suffer oppression in Pakistan.

3) Kashmiris Muslims dont bother to fight for seperation, as evidenced by severe decline in protests and terrorism in the region. Remember they should fight not just the Indian government but also half of the Kashmiri population who don't want to join Pakistan.

4) Only Pakistan uses this issue as a geopolitical wedge. No other country, not even China, bothers to do anything about this issue as antagonizing India to that extent is not their goal.

>>2808924
you certainly seem to think so

>>2807368
even in video games i learned that if you shoot at the abdomen then the next shots tend to land still mostly around the shoulder-level

my boy says not guilty.

>>2807368
the headshot meta appeared before videogames,,it goes back all the way to decapitations and it's not even the first media to be obsessed with it,movies loved that back in the 80's,the head being the "vessel of the soul" of a person and thus insta killing them is pretty ingrained. (also omg child golshi)

Slavic paganism

marxism marxism-leninism is atheism

Daosim 5 year wu wei plan

>>2809095
☯️ased

Atheism or you end up being re-educated. How is this even a question?

I think the contradiction you're looking at in your latest video is between the red pill and the black pill. Clav is blackpilled, and so thinks looks determine everything. He is seemingly a man without hobbies or interests, besides investing in his looks, and so as you say, he becomes a wax statue of a man; a purely formal entity without content. Now, the red pill can be equally delusional, in imagining that by improving your inner life that you can attract women, almost magnetically, like the semen retention copes. The truth is that neither are satisfying of the whole truth because both are frameworks, and all frameworks are absolutist. These days, I am drawn to the blue pill; not because I think being a "nice guy" is a viable strategy of sexual selection, but only that the unironic mantra of "be yourself" is healthiest, since if we are not ourselves, who are we? We are something that exists for other people.

Now, as a sub-5 male, I have only attracted sub-5 women my entire life (e.g. conventionally unattractive, old, transgender, etc.) and so I see how the cards are stacked, that in a free sexual market, supply meets demand, and I think people just have to make peace with that. You attract a reflection of your own essence; if you have bad friends, you will have a bad life, and so on. The ancient device of "hubris" plays a part in this; when we imagine ourselves greater than we are, we suffer the error of our own folly, and transhumanism, as the highest stage of civilisation, demonstrates this fact. The denial of our own nature leads to misery. So, to end on a blue pill take; Clavicular needs therapy, not drugs. 🙂👍

>>2817237
Hey, cool it with the over-civilised remarks.

You have no intellectual value
I am turning that avatar drawing into porn
quit trying to do politics
activism is an illness

>>2817450
>Clavicular needs therapy, not drugs.
Drugs are the only true therapy, psychoactive drugs, not facial reconstruction shit

>>2819367
Thanks, I'll post it on twitter. Fix up the shoulder area though. You didn't get rid of the other shoulder I originally drew. And fix the collarbones if her body is tilted like that.

Yeah, it's over. My objective now is to slay as much pussy as possible

>>2808789
based

>convert to Islam
What if I don't want to fuck goats?

Guy who never actually did anything in his life : "Oh man I'm so exhausted and depressed it's all over man".

I suggest you actually follow through with this larp and kill yourself

>>2804221
>Are the minutes of the early parliaments available, or polemics between the factions
Some of the most well known speech are available on the french assembly website
https://www2.assemblee-nationale.fr/decouvrir-l-assemblee/histoire/les-grands-discours-parlementaires

but if you want the primary source of the first parliamentary debates, according to this
https://shs.cairn.info/revue-parlements1-2010-2-page-146?lang=fr#s1n2
you gotta read "Le Moniteur universel"
Theres apparently an old history book version of it "Révolution française ou, Analyse complète et impartiale du Moniteur" that you can find online
https://books.google.fr/books?id=pTM_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PP9&hl=fr&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

But even better, the BNF apparently have it digitized, then you can really feel like a 1789 frenchman reading about the debates in the news, starting from the estates general (pretty amazing honestly) :
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb34452336z/date1789.r=
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k44109553

>>2804993
some good books of the period would prolly be the best ofc, but Im no expert on that front
maybe "1789-1792 / 1792-1794 : Les deux Révolutions françaises" by Henri Guillemin who is a well liked historian by leftists here in france, although it might be a bit dated now.

My entire view of jacobins is based off of TFR and it will be extremely hard to change that

Talking to apolitical workers or moderate leftists is fine. Talking to conservatives can be okay if they share your material interests (i.e. they're working class), but it's a poor investment of your time and energy for obvious reasons. Talking to fascists and the bourgeoisie (even petite bourgeois) is counterproductive, complete waste of time.

>>2808852
i'm sure worshipping the same guy is gonna get you real far in a country detached from it, but what do i know? i'm just an ultra!

>>2808695
Simply talk about all the obvious ways in which capitalism is completely antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. He tells his followers to care for the poor and the downtrodden, that the accumulation of wealth at the expense of others is sinful, that property should be held in common and distributed according to need, etc. In short, simply identify to them the myriad of ways in which capitalism compels and encourages people to behave in ways that are the complete opposite of Christian teachings. From there it's a small leap to point out how a socialist society would be objectively closer to the application of those teachings on a national scale.
>>2808639
>Massive scientific and technological activities that would have been greatly hampered in an environment lead by the retarded superstitions of backwards religions institutions.
And yet countries like the US which didn't engage in any crackdown on religion made similar advancements and often surpassed those of the Soviet Union. This isn't the 17th century, no mainstream Christian denomination teaches that scientific inquiry and research is a bad thing. On the contrary, some of the largest denominations (like Catholicism) actively promote it as a means to better understand God through studying creation.
>the rift already existed
The rift existed between socialism and established religious institutions. Those institutions like the Russian Orthodox Church absolutely needed to he subjugated and neutralized. However it doesn't follow from this that religion in general should be demonized. The correct course of action would be to promote schools of religious thinking which were compatible with the revolution. This is the current approach in China. If a reactionary priest tells somebody that they cannot be both a Christian and a socialist, we aren't helping our cause by confirming that and allegation and forcing Christian workers to choose between their faith and their class. We would be much better off convincing them that not only can they be both, but that their faith compels them to be a socialist.
>Religious "Marxism" rejects dialectical materialism
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If you believe the world was immaculately concieved you are not a materialist. Simple as

>>2808837
>Reading my posts I see I might come across as a concern troll and I’m sorry if I do, but I’m really asking here
No, it's fine. And even if you were, it can still lead to an interesting discussion.

A big thing in Marxian historiography is that, while the overall direction of history is in a given direction, on a moment-to-moment basis, it can still go backwards. It took centuries worth of back and forth for capitalism to overtake feudalism, so long that feudalism still existed in Russia by the time the Russian revolution had occurred. Whether or not we actually are moving in the direction that Marx and Engels believe us to be is debatable, but that's a whole conversation unto itself.

>>2808852
I don't see what any of this has to do with anything.

>>2808877
>And yet countries like the US which didn't engage in any crackdown on religion made similar advancements and often surpassed those of the Soviet Union.
The US also has a construction that protects people from religious authority. Both countries were still, from a legal perspective, secular, so the distinction isn't quite as large as you think.

>This isn't the 17th century, no mainstream Christian denomination teaches that scientific inquiry and research is a bad thing. On the contrary, some of the largest denominations (like Catholicism) actively promote it as a means to better understand God through studying creation.
See above. And crazed Christians who want to live like it's the middle ages absolutely exist.
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