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Eurocentrism is the dominant ideology of capitalist society, which also exists within the "left-wing" movement. It has certain specific characteristics:

  1. Left Eurocentrism builds upon the bourgeois unilinear theory of "social progress," with Europe serving as the highest peak and the universal reference point of world history.
  2. Left Eurocentrism uses a false version of historical materialism to present early capitalism as a progressive social order on a global scale, while in reality, it was only progressive in relation to the feudal system in the major European states.
  3. Left Eurocentrism underestimates the role of colonialism, the slave trade, etc., as the foundation for the historical origins and ongoing accumulation of the capitalist mode of production.
  4. Left Eurocentrism schematizes world history based on the European experience and forces everything into this mold—for example, the expectation that all societies must go through a succession of the same modes of production (slave-owning, feudal) as Europe, or else they are considered "backward."
  5. Left Eurocentrism assumes that advanced productive forces necessarily lead to advanced struggles; it underestimates the peasantry; it conceives of revolution primarily as the dividing of the national pie between the proletariat and the bourgeois class in the major capitalist countries.
  6. In its approach to international relations, Left Eurocentrism elevates inter-imperialist contradictions above the fundamental contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations, and it considers relations between great powers to be the main events in world politics.
  7. Left Eurocentrism fails to see the continuous nature of super-exploitation and the unequal international division of labor as the basis of imperialism, and it attempts to explain dynamics without giving any place to the relations between imperialist and dependent countries.
  8. Left Eurocentrism does not recognize the extent to which the main contradictions of the capitalist mode of production are embodied in the contradictions between oppressor and oppressed nations, and therefore considers nationalism in colonial countries to be backward and a hindrance.
  9. Left Eurocentrism generally considers national liberation movements to be subordinate to the supposed interests of the proletarian movement in the "advanced" countries, and d
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All of this is just another campist excuse for why fascist despots in non-western countries are actually based and cool and anyone who wants to revolt against them is actually a racist imperialist/CIA asset

>>2800309
Why are the fuck are you even on leftypol if you believe that

>>2800305
>campist
Trot neocons screeching empty words, but we have the receipts of what you NATO camp follower boot-polishers did in Libya and Syria and Ukraine and Iran etc etc etc. The antifa left will never escape their reputation for being servants of the Jeffrey Epstein class. Leftists define their entire personality around seething at "Assadists" who resist their CIA operations to build Greater Israel
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/cia-ramping-up-covert-training-program-for-moderate-syrian-rebels/
>All of this is just another excuse
You didn't read any of OP's post did you? Zionist liberals are so arrogant they will never read a single word written by their global slaves, but they're baffled that no one wants to read their latest anti-Iran, anti-Russia, anti-China Trot neocon zines on Marxists.org or WSWS
>anyone who wants to revolt against them is actually a racist imperialist/CIA asset
<no denial, just the assumption that theoretically there must exists at least one antifa Trot who isn't a globalist cuck
"Venezuela is Hamas"…"Iran needs to be bombed for peace" - actually existing anti-fascists who fight despot regimes

>>2800332
And you'll never escape your reputation for simping for some of the worst despots on earth



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My family didn't starve in the 80s only due to kolkhoz markets. It was simply impossible to buy something in state groceries. The peasantry, the petit bourgeoisie (aka big proletarians) saved tens of millions of lives of the soviet people while the party bureaucracy tried to murder them. So why should I hate the first ones and like the second ones and their descendants (Cucktin and his party)?
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>>2799907
* Ignore the second paragraph, which is incompletely repeated, and skip to the third, which is complete.

>>2798259
>No, dude, Russian government is the one who likes soviet era
No, they like the aesthetics and the cultural memory of strength and national greatness. They absolutely despise its actual policies and what it stood for. If that hadn't been the case then they wouldn't have destroyed it.

>>2799779
>No one could change their mind after twenty five fucking years
lmao, "change mind"

Uygha, Putin is the biggest ideology shopper there is, not because he changes his mind a lot, but because he is an opportunist.

He has record of saying that he's a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist.

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>>2800115
>he's a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist.

>>2798259
>There used to be a period of hate under Yeltsin, but it's gone
Yeah, he was unpopular for a reason



 

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>>2799000
It's less work to bring up a quote than explain it in your own words. I do agree that a lot of Marxists don't think for themselves much though
>>2798993
They do though. I don't know about your HS education but Newton was quoted in my textbook

>>2799000
>polisci
as opposed to economics, which is much more foundational and common of a major.
>Marx is required reading
in poisci you will at best get a (liberal slanted) political reading of marx, and not get much economic content at all
> His teachings are not being hidden from the public people just don't want to read
ok?
>you have to be able to explain things with your own words using modern language and modern examples and not rely on Marx to do all the heavy lifting for you.
I literally do this all the time, it's not that hard. And when I do it I get called a Marxist dogmatist by people like you because people like you accuse anyone who says the working class is being exploited of being a Marxist dogmatist, whether they actually are or not. That's why there's no winning this argument.

>>2799000
replied in the new thread

Platnerchads, we can't stop winning.



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why are there so many fascists on leftypol now
the fascists are poisoning this board
this board was much better in the past
how can this be defeated
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>>2798352
Getting no pussy and having no money brings you here.

>>2799679
This website is a bunch of middle class sex-having normies calling each other broke incels and larping as such. Leftypol is the most fakecel community in the world

>>2799696
Realcel gets brutally framemogged by middleclasspilled fakecels leftypolmaxxers.

Because supporting Iran is progresaive or something, now we have to endure islamo-fascists because "muh multipoltard*

>>2799740
>not mentioning the russophiles
I see you ivan



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I remember seeing a reply to the US pol thread and I think its a good idea

In countries without socialist rep in their goverments, we should purposely vote for the worst candiates in elections, to further accelerate the ongoing collapse of capitalism.

So list retarded political candiates.
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>>2799256
>votes.
>is anti-cia


fixed that

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>>2799311
this but unironically.
I mean just look at the state of things. 20 years ago if someone calls themselves a socialist its social suicide to general conservative/patriotic culture. now, just a little economic stagnation has been enough for something like 30% of gen z ending up with a positive view of socialism. (of course don't get me wrong they have a very skewed perspective of socialism and only want social democracy, but just 20 yrs ago even saying the word socialist is culturally illegal, so its still somewhat of a jump in the right direction I guess? not to mention anti establishment sentiment is at an all time high due to epstein and distrust of party leaders. if we had an organized core, we could take advantage of some of these people to bring the masses to our ideals, or at least begin teaching them about it.

>Accelerationists sitting a concentration camp due to their politcal stances

How about just educating people that the true nature of political power comes from control of the military/weapons/industry and not voting?

Why would you want to continue deluding workers into participating in the sham of voting?



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Vietnam has a smaller public sector than the United States and they are Pro-America, Pro-Israel, and Anti-China in their foreign policy. I have no idea how after America nearly committed genocide in your country you can put them over fellow socialist states, they will condemn America when it does something shitty but never act on it, they are practically just Spain, Norway, or Ireland when it comes to foreign policy. I know that China is also shitty when it comes to foreign policy and stuff too but they are at least technically Anti-America.
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>>2798800
I dont know if its objective reality, I just trust the 10's of millions of sincere communists in Vietnam to keep the ship in the right direction.

>>2797994
it always shocks people when i tell them xi has a doctorate in marxist law


>>2798818
>Posting Xi in a thread about Vietnam
At least there are three 8s in your post number.

>why does a weaker capitalist nation act cucked towards stronger capitalist nations
Because the weak do what they must etc etc. Don't worry, the Vietnamese ruling class cucks themselves to your beloved capitalist nation China as well, so you can sleep easy tonight Mr.Nationalist.



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The revolutionary task, as Foucault articulated in his debate with Chomsky, lies not merely in the denunciation of the obviously repressive organs of the state and ruling class but in the patient, systematic exposure of the mechanisms of power embedded within those institutions that present themselves as benign, neutral, or even benevolent. The bourgeois therapeutic apparatus, psychology, psychiatry, medicine, sciences, sexuality, and its allied practices is a paradigmatic case of such a mechanism. It functions as the dominant social institution for the management of subjective distress, yet its foundational logic is the atomization of the sufferer. It systematically abstracts the individual from the material conditions of their alienation, reframing crises of exploitation and oppression as failures of personal adjustment or thinking. This is not liberation from mental suffering; This is more accurately described as the pacification of the mind veiled in the clinical language of care.'

This individualizing logic is not incidental to the therapeutic project; it is its structural function under capitalism. As the radical psychiatry movement contended, fostering mental health was to be an art rather than a science, requiring a shift away from individual psychotherapy and toward supportive group work, coupled with direct social and political action. The consumer/survivor/ex-patient (c/s/x) movement, a powerful, decentralized coalition emerging from the anti-psychiatry struggles of the 1970s and 1980s, forged the very concept of peer support, where those with lived experience provide mutual aid outside the medical model's bourgeois hierarchical structures. This movement has been instrumental in developing a variety of peer-support alternatives. AA was one of the original movements to flirt with these concepts in it's religious, communal stance against the medical world's treatment towards alcoholism at the time, directly organized by the alcoholics themselves, not passively accepting the official treatment they were often subject to. Things like this often end up creating something more than a mere psychotherapy model or a technique; it is a movement of community that fundamentally challenges the power relations embedded in professionalized care and recovery itself.

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>>2798450

Ha disorganized don't mean jack when they're good at running their mouths with long winded speeches and sounding all knowing with their confusin manipiulative rhetorics so people eat up their crap. You give losers like this three weeks on a job? They won't lift a finger for you. But you give them three weeks alone with people in your orgs? They'll have them talking like whatever some scared Republican thinks when he hears the big scary word socialist. People love watching chaos and fun looking crap, so these idiots have the edge in America;s alternative political world right out the gate if you let them that is. America's cultish as all hell so folks fall in line behind cults when things get rough and our job is to make damn sure that doesn't happen. And by the way, buddy, the person you're defending? His friends have pictures with people from the MOVE organization a cult …the U.S. government labeled as one. Lmfao. The Juche poster posted here before saying "communists need a socialist version of the Branch Davidians to spread across America, minus the rape and incest."… What kind of ideology is that in socialism? I'm real curious, explain your defense of people who defend authoritarian cults, rape?

>>2797350
I'm genuinely surprised you didn't mention Wilhelm Reich or Roberto Friere in this essay, fam. Ever heard of Soma? (not the accupunture thing)

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>>2798510
are you truly ready for the orgone pill anon

>>2798443
honestly sort of true. has anyone analyzed why any of this stuff didnt catch on?

>Foucault
stopped reading

>>2797350
is that some fisher? source?



 

The cults of personality of 20th century communism were a mistake, though perhaps unavoidable. The emergence of pronounced cults of personality in several 20th-century socialist states can be understood as a historical misstep rather than an inherent feature of Marxist theory. Stalin himself denounced this in his interview with Feuchtwanger, and some personal letters. The concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat, as developed within Marxism, refers to the collective rule of the working class organized through its institutions. In practice, however, this principle was often conflated with the authority of individual leaders such as Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Kim Il Sung. This conflation obscured the distinction between class power exercised through mass participation and the symbolic centrality of particular historical figures.

This development did not arise in a vacuum. Many of the societies in which socialist revolutions succeeded were shaped by predominantly peasant populations, relatively low levels of literacy, and recent histories of feudal or semi-feudal rule. In such contexts, political authority had long been associated with monarchs, emperors, or strongman figures. It is therefore unsurprising that revolutionary movements, even when grounded in collective and egalitarian ideals, were interpreted through familiar cultural patterns that emphasized personal leadership. The elevation of revolutionary figures into near-mythic symbols can be seen as a byproduct of these conditions rather than a deliberate theoretical aim.

Recognizing this helps clarify that the issue was not simply the presence of influential leaders, but the tendency to substitute their personal authority for the organized, conscious activity of the working masses. A more consistent application of proletarian rule would emphasize institutions, education, and participation over symbolic identification with individuals. Understanding the historical roots of these personality cults allows for a more grounded assessment of past socialist experiences without reducing them to caricature or dismissing their broader social and economic transformations.
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>>2798808
I once heard Lenin didn't want to be mummified and put in the mausoleum. I think he would have cringed at all the statues and shit. It's not false modesty either. He wants you to put statues up of the workers instead. True modesty. Happy May Day, comrade.

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>>2798819
The party and the people wanted to keep his body, what I think trumps his personal desires on the matter. Happy May Day.

>>2798819
there will come a joyous day when we will have to say "Sorry Lenin" and put up even more statues of him

>>2798799
OP's post might lowkirkenuinely be LLM generated but if you disagree with it your still a crypto-sorelian tbh

They were a product of their time/material conditions not a policy choice



 

I legitimately do not understand why people believe he was wrong. Look at Jewish people and how specialized into getting better at academia or India with how certain groups become natural fishermen. Lysenkoism feels like it's striking a cord between Stirnerite individualism and collectivism and it legitimately sounds cooler than Darwin's lame "one will breed more than the other and the species will survive". Darwin's system doesn't explain suicide for example.
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>>2798022
Are you sure you want to use this angel of attack while defending Lysenko?

>>2799065
>angel

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>>2799080
you are my angel, come from way above, to bring me love, love ya

>>2799065
>oh he didnt make them up from nothing it was just "bias" which is okay because i like the results



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>Some even believe that artificial general intelligence, or A.G.I., will create a permanent underclass. In the United States, the term “underclass” gained currency in the 1960s to describe the factory workers left behind by the postwar automation boom. Today, it has become repopularized as a viral term for a theory that posits that people have a limited window of time to build wealth before A.I. and robotics are advanced enough to fully replace human labor. At that point, everyone will get frozen in their current class positions: The rich will be able to deploy superintelligent machines to do their bidding, and everyone else will be rendered useless and unemployable, left to live off welfare scraps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/30/opinion/ai-labor-work-force-silicon-valley.html

So is it over or will throwing millions of people into becoming peasants lead to a revolution?
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>>2798264
80% of this thread unironically shares your libtard analysis lole

>A.G.I
Automated Gooning Intelligence?

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Humanoid robots incoming.

>>2798256
listen mate, i watch hundreds oflongform content videos on the youtubes where unqualified petty bourgeoise imposters summarised wikipedia articles sounding authorative. i watch videos on economics, computer science, politics etc. when i'm not watching these highly stumilating and thought provoking video essays by selfimportant twats trying to make a quick buck, i listen to podcats by thought leaders and critical thinkgers such as leks fridmann, erik weinstain et. al. i am basically a modern day davinschi at this point.

>>2797857
>buy

They dont need anyone to buy their products. They will just print money and give it to themselves. The idea is they dont need people anymore if robots can do stuff. So no need for producing products to give to people so they can do what you order them.



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