/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Secretive US court meant to deport alleged terrorists hears first case
The hearing, before the Alien Terrorist Removal Court, was open to the public and centered on Nazira Haji Zada, a 47-year-old lawful ​permanent resident accused of supporting Islamic State and helping conceal a failed Election Day 2024 mass shooting ​plot. Prosecutors say much of the evidence against the Texas woman cannot be publicly disclosed.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/first-case-secretive-us-court-meant-deport-alleged-terrorists-2026-07-30/

US to make visa bond requirements permanent, affecting mostly African countries
The program requires holders of passports from the affected countries to pay the bond to be interviewed for business and tourist visas — known as B1 and B2 visas — to travel to the United States. The bond is refunded if the visa application is denied or, if granted, if the person adheres to the visa terms. The Trump administration rolled out the program last August to crack down on visa overstays and as part of its broader efforts to curtail illegal migration. The government estimates that arresting and deporting visitors who have overstayed their visa costs about $18,000 per person.
https://apnews.com/article/visa-bonds-permanent-us-state-department-travelers-ca7e5a540309d7cafad47ed1520b9c68

Children face higher threat of US deportation as legal support deal expires
The expiring contract paid about 100 legal groups across the country to provide legal services to about 24,000 unaccompanied minors. The contract allowed the groups to enter government-funded shelters as part of their representation. It was unclear what would happen after the contract expires, or if they would still be allowed to access their young clients.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/31/children-face-higher-threat-of-us-deportation-as-legal-support-deal-expires
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Brazil: Solidary Campaign for Venezuelan People Affected by the Recent Earthquake
The Solidarity Group with the Venezuelan People launched a fundraising campaign organized in Dois Vizinhos, Paraná. They are mobilizing to gather donations for Venezuelan people affected by the recent earthquake. Starting in July, volunteers are going door to door collecting supplies, such as non-perishable food, clothing, medicines, hygiene products, and other basic essentials. The campaign is rooted in a broader support effort: organizers say the group was formed to help Venezuelan families who came to the municipality to work, and who later faced difficulties, especially around housing and the costs of everyday life. With limited assistance after the initial period of employment, families often end up sharing small spaces and relying heavily on people’s solidarity.
https://redherald.org/2026/07/29/brazil-solidary-campaign-for-venezuelan-people-affected-by-the-recent-earthquake/

China’s Upsurging Strike Trend
China is still the world’s worker’s strike capital. This fact is not always visible or perceived as such. The government of Xi Jinping, much to the linking of the capitalists, closes the siege against worker’s strikes with severity. Nevertheless, behind a facade of a unified, high-tech global powerhouse, this nation grapples with deep-rooted social unrest. Authorities frequently try to sweep these recurring conflicts under the rug, but undeniable reality makes them impossible to hide. The class struggle in China over recent decades has developed in the context of the country’s astonishing cycles of economic growth. In the first decade of the 2000s, rural struggles emerged prominently amid significant labor migration to export-oriented cities. Small farmers and rural workers clashed with local governments over the expropriation of their land, the advance of real estate development, and the rise of U.S.-style agribusiness. In the cities, from 2004 to 2008, strike movements blended the distinct characteristics of the Rust Belt in the North (where the former large-scale danwei system saw workers fighting layoffs and the restructuring of state-owned enterprises) and the Solar Belt in the South (where migrant rural workers demanded an enPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Rather than thinking of these things as individual moral problems, I prefer to think of the collective-action effects of social signalling.
e.g. it does not matter whether or not I buy meat, however, if I am a vocally annoying vegan and I convince at least one other person to stop eating meat and to become a vocally annoying vegan, and they convince at least one other person… and so on, and so on, then this aggregates to a structural effect which can meaningfully shift (a) demand for meat and (b) the social position of meat eating (hopefully in a less cool, lower-status direction, or at least into the "controversial" category, further amplifying this structural effect.) leading to (c) greater production of meat alternatives and investment in lab-grown meat as a consequence even in the less optimistic scenarios, and reduced meat consumption and profits on-the-margin in more optimistic scenarios.

This holds for BDS, or to a lesser extent for "ethically sourced" products (The problem with the latter is that there's always the incentive for enshitification.) and most other things slighted as "virtue signalling" - signalling matters! people will kill themselves to send social signals! "I, a cool person, refuse to associate with Israel because they are evil" - they hate that! they're always trying to coolwash themselves as a normal country!

It is true that having an individual moral framework distinct from this is also much more healthy, but it is a larger mental leap when you're used to thinking structurally and denying yourself. Sometimes you have to double down on your existing methodology.

>>2881035
>Ask yourself whether the cause you think is political has the potential to mobilize the masses
Well by that standard almost nothing is political. Whatever the scribes of the duopoly say, I guess. Back in the 19th century the abolitionists tried to buy products not made by slaves and it failed miserably, guess slavery wasn't political.

>>2881177
>it does not matter whether or not I buy meat
It does matter though. Every bit matters.

OP here, why do my shitpost threads get the most replies? I expected this to be moved to /siberia/.

>>2879015
this is a pretty much meaningless truism that has been repeated ad absurdum but never defined what "western left" or "socially conservative" actually means

Leftists somehow manage to be double-wrong on immigration. Immigration under capitalism leads to suppressed wages and is generally not a great things AS LONG as capitalism exists. Under communism, nations will be abolished and there will be free movement of people worldwide.

So the "socially leftist" communists simultaneously support immigration in Western countries which is the single biggest reason for them not having any popularity, while also claiming that nation-states will exist in socialism, denying the inherently international nature of communism, therefore falsifying communism and making it easy for the working class to be misled by opportunist governments.

In other words, leftists are economically right and socially left when it comes to capitalism and economically left and socially right when it comes to socialism. Both are retarded.

>>2879588
>NO LEFTY PERSON WITH A LARGE SIZED HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDERS WOULD HAVE EVER FULLY STOMACHED ALL THE DEGROWTH, DRUG-LIBERALIZATION, PRISON ABOLITION, ANTI-GUN STUFF, STATELESSNESS ADVOCACY, PROTECT THE INNOCENT CRACKHEADS STORIES, PRO-SEXWORK PROMOTION, KEEP THE SAME ORDER/GOV BUT REFORMED STUFF, LET PEOPLE STEAL THINGS
That's exactly it. I'm not right-wing in any meaningful way. I'm not even a taylorist larper who needs everything to be about sweaty industrial workers, development of the means of production tends to reduce physical labor anyway. I'm all about actual, real, material progress. Many things associated with "the left" have nothing to do with that. The lumpenproletariat has nothing to do with progress by definition. The same is true of degrowth.

>>2881308
But the question remains, who can we trust, and who is actually allied with the American people at large?

>>2881314

i can only speak for myself and my own ability to read a person and be a judge of human character, i can't tell other people who to trust and not to trust. i personally don't think any democratic or republican candidate has ever been allied with the american people at large, our entire society and all of its institutions are designed in such a way to prevent those kinds of people from ever rising to positions of importance.

i remember a long time i ago i listened to an episode of the marc maron podcast where he interviewed barack obama and it kind of made me understand the situation in a way that i've never really been able to forget. the longer i listened to him talk the more i became aware of two things, one being that he talks about the common american people the exact same way he talks about his own daughters, where he sees them as helpless confused children and himself as a loving but firm parent, and the other being that when he says things that are just blatantly false or misleading or downright callous, like defending us drone attacks in the middle east as a necessary national security measure, he isn't being dishonest; he is being completely sincere and he genuinely believes these things.

people tend to have this conception of politicians as being these crafty scheming pathological liars, but the truth is actually a lot worse than that. the real painful truth is that they aren't lying and that they are completely and utterly brainwashed, indoctrinated to the point where they are genuinely insane and have no connection to reality at all. the school system, the military, big business, corporate journalism, the justice system, local politics, national politics, all of these hierarchical institutions are designed to groom and filter people from early childhood onward, indoctrinating them to think a certain way and weeding out the ones who cannot or will not get with the program, so by the time you get to the top you're not really dealing with human beings who are capable of critical thinking or perceiving reality anymore, you're dealing with manufactured products that come from a machine.

>>2881123
I look like this

>>2881155
>My fellow rightoids did this with Drumpf thinking both times thinking he was on their side, but as time moved along Drumpf revealed he was part of the same big club of elites just playing an actor's role, what makes you think your little DSA is going to be any different?
Trump was always transparently an elite though, rightoids had to turbogaslight themselves into thinking otherwise with gematria and pepejak spam. Unlike rightoids, you have the tech literacy to research into the DSA and weigh the cost-benefits of an imperfect but momentarily optimal choice in a system purposely built to not give workers an obvious good choice.

Why not vote for actual communists?
>there arent any
Then run for election and/or start a communist party.

>>2881528
That’s true of literally every wave of automation that’s ever happened

>>2881530
and tell me about the current success of gas lamp lighting unions, saddlemakers unions, etc.

IT workers had to gradually get proletarianized because they started out as petty bourgeoisie and labor aristocrats highly adjacent to the military industrial complex. It took several decades of privatization deregulation and outsourcing for this process to reach a fever pitch, and now maybe tech workers will begin to develop the sort of trade union consciousness (let alone class consciousness) that had to be developed independently by manual laborers in the 19th century.

>>2881528
> it's like a machine is scabbing you all the time.
That's not … ugh never mind. It's the tor node baiters.

Moved to >>>/labor/2053.

U.S. investigating whether Iran was behind cyberattack on Minnesota water systems
Malicious cyber activity affected technology at more than 30 community water systems across Minnesota this week, forcing some utilities to switch to manual operations as state and federal authorities dig into who is behind the attack, CBS News has learned.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-investigating-iran-cyberattack-minnesota-water-systems/

US cites ‘unauthorized travel’ to end DACA status for a mother of 3 deported to Mexico
A Texas mother deported to Mexico despite having legal permission to stay in the U.S. after arriving as a child has filed a lawsuit against the federal government after it notified her it would be terminating her permission because of “unauthorized travel” stemming from her deportation.
https://apnews.com/article/daca-immigration-texas-uscis-09071c1707e6e1d385ca503c9c75bc6f

Data Centers Divide Democrats in Michigan Primary
This growing opposition has forced Michigan’s elected officials to reconsider the wisdom of the state’s 2024 decision to hand out tax breaks to data center constructors. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist and former Wayne County public health official running in the August 4 Democratic primary for U.S. Senate, told Barn Raiser that the corporations building data centers aren’t straightforward about their development plans.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/data-centers-michigan-democrats-primary-el-sayed-stevens

Seattle police chief resigns under pressure from mayor over response to festival shooting
Mayor Katie Wilson’s announcement followed hours of speculation about whether Police Chief Shon Barnes would step down, as some of his supporters said he had rebuffed Wilson’s request to resign. Wilson said she was appointing Deputy Chief Andre Sayles, a law enforcement veteran with more than two decades of experience, as interim chief. Barnes told The Seattle Times earlier ThurPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The Right vs. the Right: Conservative “Liberals” in the Age of Trump
Before the last presidential election, Adolph Reed Jr. argued that “electoral politics has captured too much of the political imagination of the American left—or, at least, of those occupying the cultural space that a left would if there were one in this country.” Reed lamented the culturally dominant “sensibility that approaches politics as largely performative, a theater for the expression of righteousness, or bearing witness for justice and against injustice.” As many radicals long predicted, this approach to politics has handed the whole of the national political conversation to the right, and this development will plague American society long after Trump is a memory. We’ve reached a point where Bill Kristol can be a featured speaker at a “liberal” conference. It’s hard, in this context, to know which way is up, yet we can see clearly that all ways now point rightward. Kristol is far from alone; this cottage industry includes a who’s who of bloody-handed, Bush-era conservatives who now pretend to care about the rule of law, when their whole careers were spent writing thin apologies for the many constitutional violations of the post-9/11 years. We would not be in this moment with MAGA lawlessness and authoritarianism were it not for the people behind The Bulwark, the Lincoln Project, and the various other groups and outlets that have emerged on the right since Trump.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2026/07/30/the-right-vs-the-right-conservative-liberals-in-the-age-of-trump/

Power beneath the surface: Mining, politics and the Marcos dev’t agenda
For Indigenous peoples in Kasibu, Nueva Vizcaya, there is no justice in Ferdinand Marcos Jr.’s ‘just’ energy transition. Growing up in the fertile rice fields of the province, Bugkalot-Ilongot resident Zesirie Enggo chose to till the same land that had sustained generations of their community. On sunny days before, she recalled, a single hectare of their rice field could yield up to 100 sacks of palay. Yet, as several mining corporations — FCF Minerals Corporation, Oceana Gold Philippines Inc. and now North Luzon Mineral Resources Corporation (NLMRC) — take interest in the richness of their mountains and soil, their livPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2881212
Yes anon. We all read the OP.

>>2881217
Those 2500 euro are surely going to overthrow the American Government

>According to the campaign, the organizers claim responsibility for previous acts of vandalism targeting replicas of the Statue of Liberty associated with the Brazilian retail chain Havan.
We did it boys, we have defeated imperialism

>>2881022
He was an anti semite?
Maybe I should actually read him

>>2881037
Yeah as much as Bakunin gets flack for his antisemitism, which was mostly limited to a few outbursts triggered by Marx and friends outmaneuvering him, Proudhon was a lot worse about it

>>2881049
Any particular texts highlighting this?

Still crazy to me this uygha was like praised during marxs time and is now a skidmark of history.
Shit this uygha is probably Hasan of his day

It's pronounced proo-dohn

>>2879582
>ultra
>labor power
i'm not an ultra and didn't mention labor power. as for the pic I am just retarded and copied the wrong thing from the booru. I meant to post this. I was commenting marginal utility

>>2879594
Oh, well, you should know that the idea that socialism is when every workers directly receives back the "value of their labor" is a proudhonist idea, and marx critiqued it himself

Workers sell thwir labor power, not labor, meaning they sell their potential to be performing any kind of labor. And the problem with capitalism is not merely that the capitalist skims off the top, but that this potentiality is subordinated to the irrational goal of reproducing capital itself, rather than anything else we could be doing

Thus the point is not that workers should "own the fruits of their labor" like some pwtty bourg producer.
When you expend labor it has already entered the sphere of social/common wealth, to say that you "ought to" own some part of it, your individual contribution, as an individual, is still liberalism. The point is to rationally organize the production process, politically.

the point of Das Kaptal is that it's a critique of political economy baka OP

>>2879595
So once again the point is to hope the ones in charge of "rationalizing" production don't end up giving themselves any advantage ?

>>2879595
I think you make a good point, but then it's hard to imagine anyone (save a handful of technocrats) really being an enthusiast for this. Many of the most enjoyable parts of capitalism are irrationalities in the production process, while many of the most dire parts are in fact rational efficiency savings. (e.g. that you can make a living drawing furry porn is "irrational" but good work if you can get it, while taylorism is so miserable that capitalists had to project it onto communism. and, tbf, AES states did embrace it.)

While theoretically one can imagine a world where we organise things so efficiently and so rationally that we only have to work a few hours a week, I think this is over-optimistic when one focuses on efficiency. We already live in a world where we could work but a few hours a week - if we'd accept being poorer in consequence. We can always work harder to be richer, so the most rational way to organise the production process can always appear to be an intensified version of the status quo…

>PL
>far-right
Só na sua cabeça.

>>2879476
You want primary sources?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Brazil,_2006)#cite_note-farright-10
>"Bolsonaro party challenges Brazil election result". BBC News. 23 November 2022. Retrieved 6 February 2025. The far-right party of Brazil's outgoing president, Jair Bolsonaro, has challenged some votes in October's election that saw him lose narrowly to leftist Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
>Harris, Bryan (24 September 2023). "Brazil's conservative carnival tries to put on brave face in era of resurgent left". Financial Times. Retrieved 6 February 2025. "Lula's government is marked by hatred, resentment and revenge," said Julia Zanatta, a federal lawmaker with Bolsonaro's increasingly far-right Liberal party.
>Venugopalan, Murali; Venugopalan, Johanna; Venugopalan, Mundiyath (26 May 2023). One Nice Guy Not so Nice: Joe Biden's Ineptitude. AuthorHouse. ISBN 979-8-8230-0783-2. Seventy-seven old former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva from the left-wing Workers' Party beat sixty-seven year old President Jair Bolsonaro from the far-right Liberal Party by five percentage points in the first round, four weeks ago.
>Munk, Tine; Kennedy, Morag (3 September 2024). Victimisation in the Digital Age: An Online/Offline Continuum Approach. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 978-1-040-13048-3. The legal actions were initiated by the Liberal Party, a far-right group that supported the establishment of Jair Bolsonaro's government.
>Mukherjee, Hoimi (1 June 2023). "Brazil's Emergence in the United States' 'Backyard': Domestic Leadership and Systemic Status". Jadavpur Journal of International Relations. 27 (1): 7–32. doi:10.1177/09735984231161723. ISSN 0973-5984. Recent disclosure shed light on the role played by the United States and a section of anti-Lula elites in Lula's controversial arrest and the rise of Bolsonaro of the far-right Liberal Party (Fishman et al. 2020; Fox 2022).

Does the BBC (which is United Kingdom state media) and Financial Times have a “left-wing bias” too?

>Popular with NPCs
Nem com esses. O MDB só ganha votos de gente disposta a eleger os coronéis locais ou os candidatos randolas do bairro (cujos votos também vão para o coronel local) sem sequer olhar para a legenda.