/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2855517
he kicked out the french army and nationalized a bunch of shit like mines and stuff. what more do expect him to do?

>>2854219
its pretty funny how the glowies imperialists have to make up those ridiculous strawmen and missing the point gotchas to whine about an historic shift against the US empire. They are quite obviously too dumb to even understand what the multipolaristas position actually is

>>2855517
France yes,America no, why would he ? America is still totally in favor of neo colonies of Europe becoming independant and trading with them instead,unlike say any country in the Pacific ocean being anything but their bitch

>>2855744
>he kicked out the french army and nationalized a bunch of shit like mines and stuff. what more do expect him to do?
Well for starters he should not have positive relations with Israel, Nicaragua cut ties with Israel and Cuba went as far as to withdraw its recognition of Israel as a state. So I don’t see why Burkina Faso can’t do the same.

>>2855754
because they're not socialists. They simply want some basic ass development. Which in context is anti imperialist, but I wouldnt expect them to put their neck out for anyone else beyond the sahel or have any principled position.

>>2855754
>he should not
for your moral reasons or for his strategic reasons

because i promise you he values the latter more than the former

and i dont say that to defend him, just to be realistic

>>2855659
That's what happens when you monopolise God, whatever geographical region has implicit supremacy even if they don't explicitly say so.

>>2855624
>protozionism
nationalism and the formation of capitalism are historical materialist processes that must be understood not merely scolded from a moralist lens

Thesis: Jewish bible based on the neo-Assyrian empire, the first recorded imperialist project ("Jews are crazy for imitating nazis" their entire shtick is ripping off their oppressors and saying 'wow we should do that!' lol)
Antithesis: anarcho-liberal Jesus Christ resolving early class society contradictions with the hippie idealist, utopian ideology Marx/Nietzsche/etc later critiqued
Synthesis: Islam, a sort of Maoist desert warlord ideology that attempts to resolve contradictions between urban and rural areas involving finance and banking and slavery (hence the later formation of Islamic Black Nationalism in post-slavery America) which seems to be the essence of modern liberal capitalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islamic_economics#Legal_institutions
<The Hawala, an early informal value transfer system, has its origins in classical Islamic law, and is mentioned in texts of Islamic jurisprudence as early as the 8th century. Hawala itself later influenced the development of the agency in common law and in civil laws such as the aval in French law and the Cavallo in Italian law. The words aval and Cavallo were themselves derived from Hawala
<The transfer of debt, which was "not permissible under Roman law but became widely practiced in medieval Europe, especially in commercial transactions", was due to the large extent of the "trade conducted by the Italian cities with the Muslim world in the Middle Ages." The agency was also "an institution unknown to Roman law" as no "individual could conclude a binding contract on behalf of another as his agent." In Roman law, the "contractor himself was considered the party to the contract and it took a second contract between the person who acted on behalf of a principal and the latter to transfer the rights and the obligations deriving from the contract to him." On the other hand, Islamic law and the later common law "had no difficulty in accepting agency as one of its institutions in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855682
the dynasty founded by muhammads companions were heretics?

>>2855683
fichte pseud dialectics & schizoid thinking

fichte pseud dialectics & schizoid thinking
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>>2855682
>heretics
as always,universalist until you find a yazidi and then it's "fucking kufar,I will behead your entire family" because they have angels in their scripture or some shit

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>>2855669
I think it's just something he said at a concert or interview or some shit, not a lyric

>>2855669
never mind, wikiquote says it's disputed

>>2855034
Ding ding ding

>>2855092
That looks like 2007 Obama if he got on HRT

>>2811929
the classcuck went mute at this question

>>2848903
it's more money than a human being could possibly use in several lifetimes. he himself will die having not used 99.99999999999% of it for anything, while paying accounts to manage it, and dolling out a small portion of it to his many ex-wives and spawn… what's the point? Legitimately what is the point?

>>2811929
Does it matter when the USSR subsequently collapsed in an embarrassing heap? If there were incentives to develop in the short term, they clearly weren't there for staying the course.

>>2854231
I should be less glib: "does it matter?" Was unduly dismissive. My actual point would be that capitalism can function with a dud leader so long as he doesn't meddle too much (and even then his meddling can be routed around) since the incentive structure is decentralised while soviet socialism was dependent on having a Stalin tier leader to keep things in check and progress progressively slowed and then stagnated under average tier leaders before finally appointing a substantially below average leader who brought the whole thing down. (And he was not uniquely bad in this respect, many of his ideas were clichés of his generation.)

A system dependant on always having a once in a generation talent in charge is a doomed system. Better a thousand average people, some lucky, some blundering.

https://xcancel.com/NickGriffinBTP/status/2070778754654208425

https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/2071283893336948830

https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/2071312887822319653

About that movie Elon has been gushing over, it’s basically just Islamophobic propaganda, and a hymn to racial violence. Also, some guy on Leftypol named captain Sindabad did a break down of it. Apparently more locals and cops get killed than non-whites LOL

As for use message: There are fans who are eagerly rooting for Sanders' killing sprees but Uwe Boll himself the film is not meant to endorse the killing of immigrants and that the film is designed to spark debate regarding the character's violent actions rather than serving as a standard, celebratory hero narrative: https://youtu.be/ySHByNp6pNk

But yh, I find it unconvincing considering how the MC’s actions are never questioned in-story nor is he pushed back against. Truly an Uwe Boll movie alright.

Going back to Elon: What bugs me about Musk is his sheer evilness. This is a trillionaire who isn't just a product of apartheid SA, but also has no regards for truth and knowledge that he is happy to push lies even as it leads to the deaths of millions, all the while whining about leftists saying mean things to him. Like, he'll boost nazi content but only to deny he is a nazi since he supports Israel and censors anti-zionism on his private platform. He is basically a villain of the kind shown in anime and cyberpunk fiction.

I tell my friend all the time
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Rightoid politics force an alignment of socioeconomic disparities with the amde up concept of races to make an example and perpetuate their politics.

>>2855461
It's hard to argue with chuddery. If you really want to try to appeal to reason though maybe the ecological fallacy. Like yeah per capita (American) black men shoot people at higher rates (that's what we're talking about right?) because of growing up in the hood but that just collapses completely if you randomly pick on any individual black guy. (Which the police really do.) It's something you learn in a statistics 101 class, not even re: race or politics specifically, it's just a problem about inference from population-level data but it usually applies to people.

Also chuddery is an interally contradictory ideological formation in an ironic paradox sort of way, in that it tends to make what they don't like into a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like Hitler is going to save the white race whoops Hitler just killed millions of white people and destroyed Germany! That is an especially catastrophic example and it's a bit weird of an argument to make since it's almost like making it from the far right but still, that did happen. But in the U.S. context you have white flight, disinvestment, mass incarceration and otherwise the state fashioning black men as a criminal enemy sort of class. Huh gee now these people are really good at hitting licks and evading detection, but you made them that way.

Third thing is more psychological. If people from different "races" encounter each other and have negative experiences, that isn't good. But I think people need to get out and explore and meet different people. Often once you do you realize it's not such a bad deal. You also develop a more accurate understanding, because what you're afraid of is probably not going to kill you, it's something like a vehicle accident or drowning in a pool that will kill you. Also mosquitos have a massive death toll on humans worldwide.

There are war correspondents who went to to war-torn West African countries 20 years ago and filmed child soldiers ripping people's hearts out. That is a bad deal but those kids are like soldiers who are proud of that and want to show off to the white man with the camera, so he wasn't actually in as much danger thank you might have thought. Also battle casualties weren't as high as you might think either because of the style of warfare. It's not that the chuds are pussies necessarily (just kidding a lot of them are) but tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855461
direct them to Richard Hanania, a former white nationalist who now spends most of his time pointing out all the ways that conservatism has a "human capital" problem.
(and also highlighting groups like indians are, statistically, model minorities in every way except being brown… so naturally they're loathed because chuddery is about feelings over facts.)

>>2855572
Indians are a model minority unless you've ever interacted with them

>>2855525
>black men shoot people at higher rates (that's what we're talking about right?) because of growing up in the hood
But why is "the hood" the way it is?
>muh drugs
White America is plagued with drugs too
>muh poverty
The median black american has a higher adjusted income than most Europeans, and around the same level as West Virginians. Their murder rate is 5-40 times higher.
>muh inequality
White America is pretty unequal too.
>it's just a problem about inference from population-level data but it usually applies to people.
Well nobody's saying that one individual black person can't be intelligent or peaceful. The problem is that these things are rarer amongst black people. Politics don't deal with individuals, it deals with groups.
>It's like Hitler is going to save the white race whoops Hitler just killed millions of white people
Genuinely: do you think Hitler was the only racist ever to exist? You know Woodrow Wilson and FDR were racist as well, and they… Won?
>you made them that way.
How? Is it possible that they were that way to begin with, and that's why white flight and mass incarceration happen? Or are you just discounting that wholesale? If so, why?
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>>2853969
>Gorbachev’s presidency had other unintended consequences. Nursultan Nazarbayev, the fifty-year-old Party head of the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, who had effusively supported Gorbachev, suddenly announced he would become the President of Kazakhstan. Two weeks later, the Party head of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov, said the same. Gorbachev reacted with genuine surprise: “How come? Without any advice and consent . . . I thought we had agreed . . . that there would be only one president in the country.” Karimov calmly replied: “It is the wish of the people.” Nazarbayev intoned: “People in Kazakhstan also say: can’t we have a president too?” Gorbachev then lamely agreed. Thus, he had recog-nized the right of the republican potentates to change the republican constitu-tion in the same way the Kremlin had done.
Do kind of feel bad for him sometimes lmao

>>2853969
exactly, but i think its a stretch to say he had the best of intentions. he was mainly ego-driven and wanted to be remembered as a great-man savior, a position that led him farther towards seeking out western and imperialist clout the more that the western media and diplomats humored him. the funniest part is the US & NATO didnt even particularly want, let alone expect, the USSR to collapse. better to have a unified 2nd rate power to equal parts exploit & compete against. not to say that the US didnt quickly jump on the decaying corpse of the soviets ofc.

that said i do pity him, hard not to when you read how regularly he fucked things up or stuck his head in the sand. i dont think he wanted things to be worse, my guess is that he just didnt have a sense of the real stakes involved & was equal parts delusional and self absorbed. he definitely wasnt the only incompetent moron high in soviet politics, and not the most incompetent, but there were also more competent and intelligent people trying to course correct at so many moments. and he climbed and sweet-talked for the job for most of his life. i feel pity just at the second hand embarassment but also incredulity & disgust

>>2854920
i think you're both being too charitable to gorbachev's intentions and not appreciating the direction he walked through the river, let alone its thick mud and strong currents, gorbachev's biggest ideological inspiration toward the end was social democracy (late perestroika, new union treaty, 500 days programmem etc.) and both this and many of his failures are not entirely his but can also be laid at the feet of the soviet system that, even outside of it's disregard to even some of the most basic tenants of marx/engles' socialism, was byzantine and filled with self-interested bureaucrats and careerists, the very same that strangled ogas

>>2854953
yeah wasnt even my intention to be particularly charitable but i get your point. im not even sure he sincerely believed in his brand of social democracy any more than he did his earlier brand of leninism. but if you read his later interviews and statements and can get past has contemptible his refusal of any accountability is, he did seem genuinely dishearted by the dissolution and the state of the former union states in the 90s going forward. thats not sympathetic but it does make him a bit more pitiable as a historical "character" compared to completely unfeeling snakes like yeltsin

>>2853969
>presidency

It needs to be said, that the office of President, was a pure Gorbachev creation, on the advice the traitor-wrecker Alexander Yakovlev. Yakovlev has advocated for a presidency multiple times, he got his wish in 1990.

There is a story of Yakovlev telling Anatoly Chernyaev, [in said man's diary], of Yakovlev convincing Gorbachev, of changing the political system, and taking loans from western countries.

>The Diary of Anatoly Chernyaev: January 28, 1990

Chernyaev: On Monday there was PB, discussing the “CPSU Platform” composed by Skakh and me and edited by M.S. The level [of discussion] is hopelessly bad. Although Egor did “quiet down” and was not too aggressive, though he did say that he is strongly opposed to “a multiparty system.”

By the way, M.S. picked new secretaries for the PB: Usmanov, Stroev, Girenko, Manaenkov, etc. “Good guys.” But they shouldn’t be above the level of a mid-level oblast committee. Why should they be in the highest echelon? He himself keeps talking about intellectual potential!

We spent the whole day in his office. He did not give up his positions on the multi-party system and private property, but ordered that we make it “more rounded.” He agreed with me that the term “Marxism-Leninism” should not be allowed into the Platform.

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you've got a lot of reading to do

Don't ask people here about communism, it's like astrology shit here.

>>2855112
>What are your solutions?
War of national liberation against israel. If youre talking abous jewSA instead the problem seems to be evangelical christians corrupted by israel.

>>2855112
>these Zionist assholes
Capitalists are also bad even if they aren't zionists

22 Democrats Join GOP to Block Lebanon War Powers Resolution, Enabling Netanyahu’s Sabotage of US-Iran Ceasefire
Despite top House Democrats, including Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (NY) and Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Gregory Meeks (NY), giving rhetorical backing to the resolution this time around, The Intercept reported that they did not formally whip the vote.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/lebanon-war-powers-vote

Supreme Court spurns Trump on birthright citizenship, allows transgender sports bans
The U.S. Supreme Court handed President Donald Trump a painful defeat on Tuesday by rejecting his move to restrict birthright citizenship on the final day of its momentous term, while also letting states ban transgender student athletes from women's sports teams and striking down more ​campaign finance limits.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/supreme-court-spurns-trump-birthright-citizenship-allows-transgender-sports-bans-2026-06-30/

US threatens to cut funds for Kansas school district over transgender policies
The U.S. government said on Tuesday it will bring enforcement action against the Kansas ​City Public School District in Kansas over its ‌transgender policies that could include judicial proceedings and loss of federal funding. In a statement, the Education Department alleged that the school ​district's policy not to disclose a student's transgender status ​even to parents violated the Family Educational Rights ⁠and Privacy Act.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-threatens-cut-funds-kansas-school-district-over-transgender-policies-2026-06-30/

AIPAC, Big Tech Back Diana DeGette Over Melat Kiros With $2M Spending Flood
The June 30 primary in the Denver area has drawn national attention in the wake of Tuesday’s sweeping set of wins by democratic socialists in New York. Kiros has run as a critic of unchecked AIPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

India’s Cockroach Janta Party: a lightning rod for Gen Z rage
“Those in power think citizens are cockroaches and parasites. They should know that cockroaches breed in rotten places. That’s what India is today.” These are the words of Abhijeet Dipke, founder of the Cockroach Janta Party (CJP) – the ‘Cockroach People’s Party’, a play on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP), the ‘Indian People’s Party’. In just a few days, the party garnered over 22 million followers on Instagram, 220,000 followers on X, signed up one million members, and has the ruling BJP government terrified. What started as a satirical online joke has become a lightning rod for the profound anger and indignation of India’s youth that is terrifying our rotten ruling class.
https://marxist.com/india-s-cockroach-janata-party-a-lightning-rod-for-gen-z-rage.htm

Left must not give Burnham a blank cheque
Burnham himself is a blank piece of paper onto which everyone in Labour projects what they most want to see. He was firmly in the New Labour mainstream during the Blair-Brown governments, lurched to the right during his own leadership bid in 2015 but then reinvented himself as an interventionist mayor in Manchester, within the considerable limitations of the post. In recent weeks, as he was seeking election in Makerfield, he articulated a range of positions – on standing up to the bond market, on electoral reform, on justice for the Waspi women – only to walk them back almost immediately. Given that Keir Starmer was partially undone by his endless U-turns, this is hardly reassuring, given that Burnham has not even been subjected to the full-force pressure of vested interest that will be brought to bear on him in Downing Street.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/left-must-not-give-burnham-blank-cheque

Pride: From Stonewall to Social Revolution
Every June, politicians, corporations and state institutions wrap themselves in rainbow colours and speak of diversity and inclusion. Yet the history of Pride did not begin in boardrooms or parliament. It began in resistance. The Stonewall upPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855086
Millions

Tybna!

>>2854111
>class anger
Small capitalist anger

Porky shocktrooper down

>>2854126
Left one not bad either

>>2854098
>what the hell happened on january 6th, 2021 again?
A literal inside job just like 9/11. It was allowed to happen. Cops let the putschists in. Vid related.
>>2854550
>Democrats not executing the enablers and organizers was such a cuck moment.
That would require them to not be liberals.

It’s right up there with the Kirk assassination as a peak news day. Man do I wish more died though, what a shame.