/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2760738
we all know spain will get a fash government on next cycle who will cuck out to the US to embarrassing degrees but I still don't understand the anons saying spain is being anything but based right now when it comes to this war

>>2760819
he is a retard, the whole idea of petrodollar is forcing everyone to have dollars to get oil, making it the de facto forced global reserve currency and forcing the petro monarchies to recycle their dollars into the american debt, if too much of the global supply escape dollar, the whole thing will eventually collapse

>>2759559
Dank. Saved.

>>2760747
Gasoline goes bad in a matter of just a few months. It's better to buy oil futures and sell some of it every time you need to put some gas in the car.

>>2759404
Greenblatt:
>Stop blaming jews for all these wars. We have nothing to do with this, m'kay.
Also Greenblat:
>We are going to surveil all anti-war activists and communists and rat them out to the FBI. Mwahahahahah!

>>2760273
Oh and all of this is being managed by the Trump administration which has been repeatedly shown to be absolutely fucking incompetent.
GENUINELY Trump would be better off blowing his brains out than trying this. Fucking hell if you want to see a US collapse you would be salivating at a draft.

>>2760273

They're waging psyops on highly condensed cities like Baltimore,Philadelphia,Chicago,Boston attempting to build up reactionary bases in the localities, because fighting a counter-insurgency in these regions and cities is a nightmare. The partial reason so many lumpens and gangs generally get shot up in a lot of these cities, is the highly condensed urbanized environment that allows for ambush, but also, old European style, narrow, one way streets that can act as death traps for both sides. Another thing is, it is hard to pin down where gun-fire comes from in cities like this, because sounds bounce off the walls, homes exist in rows down narrow streets, which causes this. Then there is the nook and cranny style of interconnected alleyways, and intertwining small streets that allow for people with high knowledge of the neighborhoods to evade aggressors. An example of all of this in action is Belfast, Ireland, during the troubles.

In fact many cities widened their streets, and "modernized" their formats to essentially riot proof their city. NYC did this. Philadelphia, and Baltimore did not. Chicago did restructure its layout, though this was due to the great fire, and the south side is still a highly condensed area that is filled with alley ways and back streets that only people who live there have full knowledge of. Same with Boston. This makes even low-scale conflicts with police forces nightmares, now imagine high-scale conflict.

>>2760302
Rural reactionaries will surround the cities and starve them through reverse Maoism

>>2760158
Deuce bigalow is calling for a draft?

this neocon, a.k.a. mr. my ladybugs is in disney world. If you see him, whack him good.

>>2760103
Thanks, nice site

>>2759793
No one claims here that Communism is about values or ideas but that Communists tends to attack certain values that other Communists or Leftists hold, I think you fail to comprehend the fact that people may hold various different subjective values yet still participate in Communist movement while understanding that Communism is purely a class movement.

>>2759410
communism has nothing to do with shit like veganism. that is a problem for society to solve after the revolution. people keep trying to turn communism into a "completely expansive worldview" (aka a cult) that has an answer for everything. communism is about organizing the proletariat to overthrow the bourgeoisie, everything else is irrelevant. people who bicker about shit like that are feds and wreckers

>>2760141
if neither party is bringing up communism, then shitting on someone for i.e. being a vegan is as valid as being a vegan lol

>>2760195
That's the point in this post, there's no reason for Communists to fight over matter of subjective values yet alot of Commies tend to shit on each other and act as if these are important questions for the proletarian party while they aren't.

worst thread on /leftypol/ since i'm here, could be a page in fucking SPIEGEL or BILD. literal anti-communist propaganda

>>2760060
fuck off lib

>>2760095 lol

Don't look up the troubled youth industry in the US

>>2760133 one wrong bla bla bla doesn't make another right bla bla bla, i've already said this in the thread. I feel like we are missing out on having a useful convo about makarenkovian pedagogy, how to approach these past events and learn from them and if to defend the gdr, with something more nuanced and complex then whataboutism (not to discreddit any critisism and downplay these very real things that are arguably worse due to the unapologetic nature of structures that allow more abuse under capital than that in the socialist bloc)

Before 1999 that was the average children's home/orphanarium everywhere.
People did not give a shit about children's rights or their well being beyond being well fed before the late 90s.

>>2758324
gumshoes, i thought hezbollah was destroyed by israel
did the ghost of kuwait do this?

>>2758883
We need more Jews that are on the side of trvth and jvstice.

Based Orthojews.

>>2758367
>>2758371
Are tanks just useless in 21st century warfare? They seem to function only as a way to intimidate to civilians at this point. However now even some of the most poorest resistance fighters can knock them out now with drones and other low cost anti-tank weapons.

>>2757883
How long until Vance is described as a traitor

>>2758510
pomeGRANATE juice lol, Iranians just can't stop thinking about war can they

>>2756793
Towards a worldwide union of producers and consumers, for planned production, for the advancement of the species, the utilitarian strive.

>>2756793
As show that we're not all bark no bite, I have prepared a special surprise for the KKE headquarters next month in Greece :)))))))))))))))))))

>>2756376
Incorrect. Even with a mitigated neoliberalism, the PT (Workers' Party) used and expanded public properties and employed state capitalism to the extent possible within the framework of class conciliation, often making defensive gestures when the bourgeoisie launched an offensive to remove labor rights, privatize, etc. The PT has politicians from the MST (Landless Workers' Movement) and has ties to this movement for agrarian reform, while you cling to the natural right to private property when the constitution itself states the need for a social function of property that can be expropriated. The PT's activists do not share your position on the inviolable natural right to private property; within it, there is discussion of the use of a developmentalist ideology, which you can find in Dilma Rousseff, who had abandoned her program to move away from the macroeconomic tripod with the New Macroeconomic Matrix, but gave up when she realized that there was no national industrial bourgeoisie that was not financialized to make this capital and labor agreement since the Brazilian bourgeoisie only cared about speculating in the financial market.

The Workers' Party (PT) has a position of not falling into the trap of demonizing foreign countries in order to have dialogue and economic sovereignty, where Palestine is recognized and its existence in an economically viable way is demanded. Defending a US invasion is not a position of the PT. Go to the alternative media close to the PT and you will see Marxists, supporters of campist ideology, defenders of 21st-century socialism and fans of Chinese revisionist socialism, as well as various warnings of threats from the CIA to Brazil, or talking about the lies of the mainstream media. Your speech is that of a lackey of the mainstream media apologist for American imperialism.

But the PT is a reformist, conciliatory party that cannot stop the advance of neoliberalism and the financialization of the economy, even if in a delayed manner, constantly making concessions to the bourgeoisie, demobilizing the population, always conceding more to the "broad front" and electoralism. The PT will not reverse the financing of fascism and reactionism, which is the natural result of capitalism. There is no peace or reconstruction if you don't reverse the financialization of the economy, which would require ending thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2755890
If you lived within a state that was genuinely democratic and with a proportionally strong lobby for working and poor people, you would have to choose whether your commitment to weak government or your commitment to poor people is higher. You will no doubt disagree, but this is how I see it, as a communist. The only way to fix the ills of capitalism is progressively expanding reforms in the economy towards socialism. Early on this looks like regulating business, but as this disrupts the economy or businesses try to undermine/work around it, further measures, like targeted expropriations, freezing funds of huge business owners like Jeff Bezos, state owned enterprises competing seriously with private sector, etc. will be needed. All this happens under liberal capitalist states as well. Beyond that, a move towards the whole of the productive economy (i.e. people who make stuff en masse) being state directed (and later state owned), and the non-productive economy (i.e. land and monopoly rents) being expropriated for most likely municipal state ownership.

This is all "authoritarian" because there is deprivation of property (of billionaires and parasite rentiers), freezing assets in order to not allow capital flight, government heavily involved in economy, strong regulation with no loopholes, etc.

As Lenin says, socialism is state-capitalist monopoly made to serve the people. Right now we have state-capitalist monopoly serving the rich. If you care about the poor and working people more, you will eventually see the necessity of strong government (democratically controlled by the working class) in overcoming control by and for a very small class of opulent wealthy, and I don't have to convince you right now about this, I just have to convince you that a state where the working class has a say is better than a fake democracy or dictatorship. If you support small government more, then you were never on my side in the first place, and all the niceties about weed and butt sex were just you wanting some personal liberties to increase your personal comfort (and i could only assume you're somewhat wealthy yourself), and nothing to do with freedom or the comfort of working people as a whole. If the latter is the case it's not loss, you were a class enemy from the start, just one with a softer and less realistic outlook than the fascists.

Kino thread

>>2760190
Cheering for american military deaths is in-line with Marxism.

Israel has conscription and so tangible revolutionary(defeatism) potential with the right circumstances.

>>2760194

Brother acts like Anarchists and Marxist leninists weren't physically targeting US personnel in south Europe 1970s-80s. Surprised how many leftists know more of ancient, industrial revolution history than they do recent history. They quite literally LARP the 1800s

>>2760194
I never cheered for American military deaths because I always knew that it was nurture not nature. But I understand why people outside of the United States would do so.

>>2760190
yep

>>2760206
>personnel
when i said we cheer for amerikkkan and israeli deaths that includes treatler at home, not just "personnel." Coward.

this is just identity politics which we're just not interested in at all. I get that you're a loser trying to bait us but nobody cares.

there's a really extreme case that's kind of prototypical of the whole problem with capitalism and the human body and that is San Cristóbal de las Casas in Mexico. it's a town with a coca-cola plant that buys all of the natural water, and corrupts the government to prevent the townspeople having proper infrastructure for town water. there's a ton of yellow journalism about "the town where coke is cheaper than water". obviously obesity and diabetes is through the roof, the kids are all fucked up from having hero doses of caffeine from toddler age.

it's obvious that capitalism is responsible:
> lack of democratic oversight
> lack of regulation
> lack of education and development
> economic rationalization for what is child abuse enforced through poverty

it occurs across the world with people subsisting off of highly processed shit that they can afford, or a diet composed of their primary export to the US.

your next rhetorical step will be to say
>I don't care

which just begs the question why you made the thread, which as I initially stated is just to bait people into debating identity politics. kind of sad you're this dull a thinker and don't have anything better to do.

>>2760470
>Is ableism fascist?
It's more that fascist ideology was ableist. Really it was really tied up in Social Darwinism in which they borrowed from a crude interpretation of natural selection in which the "strong" select out the "weak" which justified physically exterminating people with disabilities (they actually experimented with killing methods on them before moving onto others). Also a big part of it was preparing the population for war.

>the ideal leftist should be fit and healthy
What is "ideal" is doing a lot of work here. If you're looking at some people as more or less valuable than others, that is going to clash with a left-wing outlook sooner or later. A class society also operates like that and the rich generally look better than the poor, have more free time and money to hire personal trainers and the like. I think physical fitness is good BTW but I tend to relate to motivational and positive encouragement types. It's like everyone has an inner strength that you can bring out and that can motivate them to exercise.

Fascism is anything I don't like, the more I don't like it the more fascismer it is

>>2760470
I've brought up reverse eugenics before, but if anything we need to encourage the handicapped.

I mean the actually handicapped, being fat is not a handicap. Being traumatized isn't either so most women are not handicapped. I'm talking about like downs syndrome or blind, deaf, no limbs or something.

Midgets too. Women should be forced to lay with manlets both so they suffer, and to derail heightism. No doubt westoids fetishize nephilim fallen angel giants hence like talls.

When everyone is an acne riddled paraplegic transgender with epilepsy, people will no longer have time to discriminate and lord their superiority. They'll cooperate to function or die out. I am more than willing to gamble the complete erasure of humanity to insure i never have to hear another fucking redditor again say words like "preference" you don't get preferences, you're a Kafir and should be beheaded for your insolence.

>>2760562
I read a theory about how the space aliums who helped engineer humans purposefully made us weak compared to the primates we come from to force us to cooperate.