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Yeah, so. This BTFO any argument against the infeasibility of planned economies.

tl;dr: Google has created an AI that readily trains specialized AI models that act as data scientists who collect data in an eclectic manner to make predictions for a wide array of real world use cases that are on a large scale, such as predicitng the spread of disease in a country or estimating which regions are at risk of food insecurity. Their AI has produced the best results so far in terms of making reliable predictions ranging from 60-90% depending on the subject. We can only go up from here.

Planning an economy and all social affairs relevant to it is not just theoretically feasible but Google themselves have released an AI that could plausibly do it, even if they haven't explicity stated that.

I know that a lot of you will say that we (socialists) already knew this, but there is something funny about capitalism itself revealing it while also being blind to it. What will their cope be if you pointed this out?

Planetary prediction engine: Automating global models via Earth AI
https://research.google/blog/planetary-prediction-engine-automating-global-models-via-earth-ai/

<Google's paper introduces the Planetary Prediction Engine (PPE), an autonomous AI system designed to build high-accuracy geospatial predictive models from plain-English requests.


<Traditionally, predicting real-world global events—such as tracking a disease outbreak, forecasting local food shortages, or mapping environmental changes—requires months of tedious work by specialized teams. Data scientists have to manually find datasets, clean satellite imagery, merge census data, eliminate bias, and code customized machine learning models.


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>>2904854
This retardation again? America is not centrally planned. Companies operate on market signals. There are thousands of smaller companies feeding into the big monopolies.

>>2904844
>slop
People learn 1 term and use it whenever they can I guess. That AI is probably worth more than your life.

Small scale iterative experimentation > grand macro plans, simple as.

>>2904668
>reliable predictions
>60-90%
knowing these papers and how they tune their numbers this model can be replaced by tossing a coin.

The problem with planned economies was never their feasibility, that was propaganda. The problem is that it doesn't benefit capitalists enough. Sure China has billionaires but not to the extent of the US, and they can be disappeared at any time if they act against the public interest. Western billionaires want to be the protagonists of reality and immune to any form of consequences for their evil acts.



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>Broke with Lenin's militant atheism and began to reconcile with the Russian Orthodox Church
>Hated abstract art and promoted "socialist realism" over the avant-garde of the Proletkult
>Recriminalized homosexuality under the pretext of increasing the birth rate
Stalin sucked compared to his predecessor.
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>>2906176
Who won and who lost?

>>2904837
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PROTECT THE WORKERS THINK ABOUT THE PEDERASTS AND NEPOBABIES

>>2905192
>just like my heckin' chud containment chambers!

>>2909408
>the workers must be protected from atheism and abstract shapes
oh nonononono kulakeks… the tsar's reign is over…

sfd



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Hello I'm new to this whole thing. I understand that proles are supposed to work together to overthrow capital but how is that possible when so many proles are retarded cattle? What do you do with proles who love the bourgeoisie like hardcore elon musk/trump fans. What about blue collar guys that blame everything on immigrants and love capitalism. What about military veterans who actively aided the capitalists and have zero regrets. What do we do with all those people? There's too many to just kill them all and the idea that "education" will suddenly change them seems idealist. I don't see how those guys would be compatible with revolution, what's their role in this?
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proles don't exist
proles are an abstraction, an economic class

ganing class consciousness doesn't mean to "realize that the capitalist is ripping you off personally", you start acting on behalf of this universal subjectivity

class is not an essence or mere condition of being a wage worker, it's a kind of subjectivity that has to be developed

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>>2903411
>if a socialist revolution happened
What materially causes the revolution to happen? When does the contradiction become so acute that a unified revolt becomes more viable than a continuation of the current regime? Also, define what you mean by socialism. Is it AES like the USSR or China that practiced social imperialism and unequal exchange? Please answer without idealism.
>almost all of them would go along with it
Why would they go along with it? A true global socialist revolution would inevitably involve the imperial core having to give up its relative privilege over Earth's natural resources, as the imperial core's material consumption cannot be universalized. Most people, including ostensible class conscious socialists, would resist surrendering that privilege as it would feel like downward mobility.

>>2905106
Bougie propaganda, there's more than enough for everyone

>>2903406
>Did Mary account for retarded proles like myself?
No, because you are not a prole.

>>2905149
>there's more than enough for everyone
in the imperial core – which, if it ceased to be imperial, there wouldn't be enough for everyone



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I am of a strong belief that most contemporary “theory” “writers”, convey relatively simple ideas in more and more words, there is so much insanity that can be possesed in a statement, so much shock you can pack into another bullshit essay. Post-modernist, post-marxist, post-structualist, post-rational, post-post-post-post-post, post post blah blah blah it all becomes a meaningless babble. I don’t give a shit, kill yourself.

All this, combined with a history of failure to stand up against injustice and explotation of this world, it creates a feedback loop where more and more layers of ‘post’ are being added to something, more new words are being invented, and more old words are being used in different, “wrong” ways. This results in works that are at best a very advanced schizopost, and at best some broader psyop.

It all becomes obnoxious, everyone knows it is obnoxious, and even pointing it out is counter-productive.

Every sincere expression of a revolutionary zeal both rightfully and wrongfully is percived as naive, as real possible change is drifting away to the realm of history.
It makes everything seem like theater, a way to fulfill your need to feel good about yourself and the world, all while the subconcious truly fights against that.

The paradox of it is that, this very critique (and possible critique of it), creates so many layers of meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta answers and questions, one could say this sort of “realism” is a immunization of capitalism, but so does that very statement and even whatever I am doing right now, and whatever you could say about it. It is an unwinnable situation.

The performance can be both something good, it can be art, it is also quite literally the only way to state something, an opinion in modern times without the pretense would not be an opinion, in most cases it would be a punch to a face of the other people in discussion. We are simply trapped in it. Even every single asshole which claims to point it out (including me, being just one meta layer above) like Mark Fischer and co. fuels the same thing, repeats the same patterns, and plays social games with language. Talking about talking about capitalism. And what I am doing is talking about talking about talking about capitalism. Every layer repeates the mistakes of the last one.

I don’t want to claim a solution, or know enough about what truly causes it or how it can be resolved.
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self-editing is an important and essential skill for being an effective writer, or any other form of communication for that matter, and to be able to edit yourself you have to have a sense of self-awareness as well as a sense of your audience. in other words, you can't be a narcissistic asshole who thinks that every turd that comes out of your asshole is a nugget of solid gold. to convey a complex idea in very direct and clear and concise language is a highly underrated skill, particularly among the upper-class intellectual elite. consider a phrase like "shit happens" - elitist snobs dismiss this as crude vulgar lower-class gutter language, but in just two words it manages to perfectly convey what philosophy and political science and quantum physics majors write entire 50,000 word theses on every day.



 

Five years after Saied’s power grab, Tunisia’s old grievances resurface
A slogan from the 2011 revolution is being heard again: “employment, freedom and national dignity”. This time, those demands are being fuelled by water cuts, electricity outages, rising prices, medicine shortages and a struggle to make ends meet, problems increasingly affecting Tunisians across social and economic divides.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/1/five-years-after-saieds-power-grab-tunisias-old-grievances-resurface
https://archive.ph/3JEwi

Kenyan aviation workers end strike
The workers were demanding better working conditions and the implementation of a previously agreed deal. “We are simply calling off our strike action and pleading with our members to begin the process of normalising operations, restoring services,” Moss Ndiema, the head of the workers’ union, told a press conference yesterday.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/kenyan-aviation-workers-end-strike

Israeli hasbara influencer Yoseph Haddad launches political party
Haddad has also been in contact with several political and military figures about his political plans, including former Israeli military commander Ofer Winter. Winter has been accused by the Hind Rajab Foundation (HRF) of war crimes allegedly committed during Israel's 2014 assault on Gaza, known as Operation Protective Edge, as well as incitement to genocide over statements made in connection with the current war on the enclave.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-hasbara-influencer-yoseph-haddad-launches-political-party

Israel imposes curriculum on 45,000 Palestinian students in East Jerusalem
Israeli authorities are imposing their curriculum on more than 45,000 Palestinian students in state-run schools in East Jerusalem, as part of a wider crackdown on education in the occupied area of the cPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

U.S. officials defend deal with controversial Venezuelan oil baron
In 2018, Betancourt was listed as an unnamed "conspirator" in a federal indictment of his cousin and seven others in a $1.2 billion international money-laundering scheme involving manipulated currency exchange rates between U.S. dollars and Venezuelan bolivars. Betancourt was never charged in the crimes, which largely occurred between 2014 and 2016, because his attorneys successfully argued he was unaware of the scheme.
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/01/us-officials-defend-deal-venezuelan-oil-baron
https://archive.ph/7VmWs

Forest Service chief faces scrutiny over logging ties as Trump plans to scrap protections
Donald Trump this month announced plans to rescind a landmark rule that has protected old-growth forests in the US for 25 years. If finalized, the rollback is expected to benefit the companies that Tom Schultz, chief of the US Forest Service, represented in his previous roles as a timber industry lobbyist and executive, according to research by consumer advocacy non-profit Public Citizen.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/01/trump-roadless-rule-old-growth-forests

House Democrats fume about GOP's anti-socialism bill
House Democrats are grumbling that Republicans are setting one last political trap for them before November by attaching language touting their marquee voter ID legislation to a resolution denouncing socialism. This is a classic election-year tactic by the majority party in Congress, but centrist Democrats say it is also a missed opportunity for a genuinely bipartisan vote to denounce socialism.
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/01/democrats-house-socialism-republicans-save-act
https://archive.ph/IG3aF

BofA vice president killed in Times Square stabbing
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>BofA vice president killed in Times Square stabbing

Awesome

Burnham must stop housing back-sliding
IF IT is too early to come to any rounded judgement regarding Andy Burnham’s programme and policies – that should wait until the budget next month — it is not too soon to express concern about his government’s course in relation to the vital issue of housing. Here he is in danger of following Keir Starmer in under-delivering. One pledge after another has been discarded or diluted. First, a suggestion of introducing a private-sector rent freeze was dropped without explanation. This would have been a far more substantive measure to tackle the cost-of-living crisis than anything else the new government has announced, and would have indicated whose side Burnham is on – working people rather than rapacious landlords. Second, a clear commitment to promote council housing has been watered down in favour of more amorphous concepts of social or “affordable” housing. Only three of the more than 30 bodies to get new government funding for construction are actually councils.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/burnham-must-stop-housing-back-sliding

Rosa Luxemburg: Down With Reformist Illusions—Hail the Revolutionary Class Struggle!
Proposals to hold out “the open hand to good will” marked the beginning of the nineties; promises of an inperceptible, “gradual evolution” into Socialism marked their end. Crises, wars, and revolutions were considered outworn theories, mere swaddling clothes of modern society; parliamentarism and trade unionism, democracy in the State and democracy in the industry were to open the gates to a new and better order. …. The actual course of events played frightful havoc with all these illusions. In place of the promised mild social-reformist development of culture there has set in since the end of the nineties a period of the most violent, extreme sharpening of capitalist conflicts, a period of storm and stress, of crashes and turmoil, of tottering and trembling in the very foundations of society. The ten-year period of the economic upward curve of development was compensated for in the following decade by two world-convulsing crises. After two decades of world peace there followed in the last decade of last century six bloody wars and in the first decade of the new century four bloody revolutPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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99.9999% of fights on leftypol are over whether the top pic or the bottom pic is true.

https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkvDRyV

So which is it leftypol?

1: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 1st world workers are trying to crush the 3rd world bourgeoisie and the 3rd world workers

2: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 3rd world bourgeoisie are trying to crush the 1st world workers and the 3rd world workers
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>>2900750
NTA, but both the French and Russian revolutions made their states way stronger and followed their pre-revolutionary geopolitical goals. I wonder if Pentagon planners will ever figure that out as they watch their military get hollowed out by financiers.

>>2903598
>i would rather be worked to death on a farm
Nothing is stopping you from giving up your lifestyle of whining on the Internet 24/7 and joining up with the Zapatistas or something.
>>2903686
>Pentagon planners will ever figure that out as they watch their military get hollowed out by financiers
This is just pure cope. I wouldn’t be surprised if this talking point is a US military psyop to secure more funding.

>>2904534
class struggle doesn't care about your feelings thoughever

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>>2904534
>There literally won’t be a First World anymore if imperialism against the Third World ended.
phew. that's eye opening. thank you for reminding me to support the troops

>>2904545
Global warming and the worst el nino in 200 years doesn’t care about class struggle



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That includes VIP tickets, fans wanting to talk to them labeled as "psychofans" and normalization of high prices?
I'm a rock fan, but this is unrelated pic of Skolim, Polish kitschy disco polo celeb
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>>2904305
Yeah I've noticed musicians doing it, musicians in the "middle" of the industry who got destroyed by the internet taking their income away. I like "industrial" music and there's a band called PIG that I saw selling VIP tickets for the current tour this month where you can hang out with the guy for an hour before the show and get some special merch. He's actually a really nice guy (a goofy Englishman) and I met him once, but I think it's just the brutal economics of the industry.

In this genre/scene, virtually all of these musicians are middling at best with the exception of Nine Inch Nails. But that's more like U2 or Metallica or Coldplay. And even then Trent Reznor is still charging $120/ticket (plus fees) and will sell you a $60 hoodie at the enormo-dome because otherwise shit starts to fold up fast. I actually did go see Nine Inch Nails a couple of years ago and it was this gigantic, expensive production with a small army of crew setting up the lights and handling everything. That was one of the only times I've actually paid money to go see a "celebrity" rock star performer. I got my money's worth though.

But unless you're Trent Reznor, what are you gon do. The only time there was really any money from actual labels for this style of music was a very narrow window in the mid-90s when the mainstream briefly flirted with industrial rock because Nine Inch Nails was successful. Also the reason Nine Inch Nails sounds like that is because it took an 18-wheeler full of gear, recording engineers, and a massive studio with rooms designed to record drum sounds. That shit is expensive.

At any rate, the middle got completely hollowed out. You still have the Taylor Swifts who are a mega-huge, but there's a lot fewer middle-of-the-pack artists. You have a lot of people playing around on their computers and uploading their music to Bandcamp. Same with games. Either it's a Rockstar/Ubisoft/EA/Bethesda blockbuster that costs hundreds of millions of dollars (GTA VI apparently is going to cost over a billion dollars to make), and then you have shoestring budget indie games with retro 16-bit graphics from people who are essentially doing it as a hobby. So yeah if you're a musician, you charge $90 for a VIP session and if 12 people buy the VIP tickets and show up before the show in Phoenix, Arizona, you make $1,000.

>>2904305
stop spending money in shit that isnt food or basic necessities
stop consuming
save up
stop working

rock stars have always been raping teenage girls, it was only a matter of time before the record labels figured out how to set up a toll booth for that too.

>>2904328
It always seemed to me that the geography alone makes being a touring musician difficult in the US. Like, it's huge. It's not like you just gotta jump in the van and drive a few hours to the next city, you have to cross this vast and poorly connected, with regard to transport infrastructure, continent.
>>2904519
Rock music has always had a pedophilic current. Jerry Lee Lewis famously went for teenagers and a lot of lyrics in the genre revolve around teenage and young girls.




 

Where can a capitalist collaborate with the community?
No matter how much I try to collaborate with capitalists, no true collaborative effort can be made, they just keep stealing from me.

>>2904274
Stonks have always been a richfag's game.
>No matter how much I try to collaborate with capitalists, no true collaborative effort can be made, they just keep stealing from me.
It's almost like collaboration with these people is impossible, like we need a revolution or something…

>>2904274
Dividends aren't the only way to make money from stocks, or even the main way, they're just a bonus basically

just open a CD




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saw this on instagram(as u can fucking tell from the side) and it was funny but lowk true
I guess this whole pissrael saga made this normal type of speech so normalised from people from across political of spectrum( who aren't normies obviously )
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>>2904045
erm, acktually its called détournement and its a good thing, chud

>>2904045 (me)
Although calling groypers "most raped goyslave" or whatever is sometimes funny because it's using their language against them. They spent so long hyping themselves up as the most badass based racist guys on the internet and now they're stuck with the Iran war so they have to complain that not castrating yourself for Israel is antisemitic. But the line between owning someone by their own logic and doing it unironically always evaporates eventually.

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>people from across political of spectrum
>looks inside
>twitter users (center rightists that larp socialism because they like Hasan and turbochuds with a BBC cuckolding fetish)
Please touch digital grass. Twitter is a "normie" website in the same way FOX News is a "normie" news station.

>>2904194
Isn't Twitter one of the most popular social media sites on the internet though?




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Ecuador sentences ex-president Moreno to five years in jail in bribery case
The attorney general’s office launched an investigation in March 2023, linking Moreno, his family members, and local and Chinese business partners to an alleged corruption network connected to the Coca Codo Sinclair plant. The facility began operating in 2016 and has experienced technical problems since.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/29/ecuador-sentences-ex-president-moreno-to-five-years-in-jail-in-bribery-case
https://archive.ph/dNis8

Vote to move Uribe’s massacre probe to Congress triggers infighting among Colombia’s left
The controversy erupted after the five PH members of the committee backed a motion of Uribe’s Democratic Center (CD) party to assert legislative jurisdiction over long-standing criminal cases against Uribe, including investigations into the massacres of El Aro (1997) and La Granja (1996), and the 1998 assassination of human rights defender Jesus Maria Valle.
https://colombiareports.com/vote-to-move-uribes-massacre-probe-to-congress-triggers-infighting-among-colombias-left/

GM's Canadian workers approve deal adding truck to Ontario plant amid US trade war
… GM has promised to invest over C$1 billion ($720 million) in Canadian plants. That includes a C$691 million ​commitment to support production of new V8 engines in Ontario that was previously ​announced in April, according to Unifor, which represents 4,600 GM workers in the province. The deal offered ‌Canadian ⁠workers a 3% wage increase a year over three years.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gms-canadian-workers-approve-deal-adding-truck-ontario-plant-amid-us-trade-war-2026-08-31/

SACP sets sights on improved service delivery,reshape localPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Pentagon plays down report of Hegseth regularly overruling military advice
Pete Hegseth regularly receives formal objections from senior commanders and proceeds anyway, the Pentagon’s top spokesman has said, as he tried to discredit a Washington Post report that four generals and admirals had advised against prolonging the war in Iran. “Of course, we demand candid military advice,” Sean Parnell wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “Non-concurs are standard. The Secretary sees them constantly. That’s how you run a real military.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/31/pentagon-report-pete-hegseth

Trump says US will refill its petroleum reserves using Venezuelan oil
United States President Donald Trump has said on social media that oil from a recently struck deal with Venezuela will be ⁠used to replenish the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve, an oil stockpile that the country keeps for emergencies and that has been drawn down sharply in ⁠recent years to respond to global supply disruptions and high fuel prices.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/30/trump-says-us-will-refill-its-petroleum-reserves-using-venezuelan-oil
https://archive.ph/9IZ9c

USDA cyclospora research projects shelved amid funding cuts and relocations, Politico reports
Although the third project remains ⁠funded, all scientists working on the parasite have declined to relocate ​to Iowa, Politico reported, citing people familiar with the plans and internal ​documents. Reuters could not immediately verify the report. "None of the research has been disrupted, and research will continue without disruption," a USDA spokesperson said, while pointing to Congress ​over the funding cuts.
https://www.reuters.com/world/usda-cyclospora-research-projects-shelved-amid-funding-cuts-relocations-politico-2026-08-30/

Cisco probably violated MiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Where is the climate movement?
At a time when climate change is no longer an abstract ‘question of the future’ for Britain, but is making itself devastatingly felt in the here-and-now, it’s right to ask: where has the climate movement gone? For young people today who only have further ecological collapse ahead of them, it can be seriously demoralising to not see anyone taking action to save the environment. It’s no wonder that this summer’s rising temperatures have brought with them a rise in ‘climate anxiety’. So what happened to the climate movement? And will we see its return any time soon?
https://communist.red/where-is-the-climate-movement/

Venezuela-U.S oil deal exposes the total bankruptcy of social democracy By Nikos Mottas, Editor-in-Chief of In Defense of Communism
There are moments when political developments strip away every disguise and expose the class character of political forces with unusual clarity. The latest oil agreement between Washington and the government of Delcy Rodríguez is one such moment. After years of “Bolivarian,” “anti-imperialist” and even “socialist” rhetoric, Venezuela’s social-democratic leadership is presiding over a further opening of the country’s strategic energy wealth to U.S. monopoly interests. This is not an isolated commercial arrangement. It follows the reform of the hydrocarbons framework, which widened the possibilities for transnational capital in the oil sector and continued the privileged position of companies such as Chevron. The Communist Party of Venezuela (PCV) has denounced this course as a retreat from national control over hydrocarbons and as a policy increasingly shaped by the demands of foreign capital. The political significance goes far beyond the terms of a single deal. For years, opportunist forces internationally demanded that communists identify solidarity with the Venezuelan people against U.S. imperialist aggression with political support for the PSUV government. Criticism of the capitalist character of the Venezuelan economy, of concessions to domestic and foreign capital, of attacks on workers’ rights or of the persecution of the PCV was often treated as if it objectively served Washington. Recent developments once again show how bankrupt that argument is. The same political current that presented the managePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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