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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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>>2829020
all unions should provide militant arms and martial arts classes.

>>2829020
>but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union
This can be how you end up with a labour aristocracy though. For example, it was common in the past for dockworkers to show solidarity with people in colonial or fascist countries by refusing to load or upload goods bound for or coming from those countries. To take a comteporary hypothetical, if a dockworker's union and management are in negotiations, and management offers a contract that includes large wage and benefit increases in exchange for a pledge not to boycott military shipments to Israel, should the union take the deal?

>>2829034
>should the union take the deal?
You're describing the economist issue. Syndicate action has to be made political, otherwise it is just economism. But it is hard to repoliticize syndicates.

>>2808692
>why hasn't this happened yet?
Coordinated effort by porkies to keep unions disorganized.

>>2808692
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
The third world is filled with small capitalists and reactionaries that prevent that violently.



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Nothing To Lose But The Chain Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2849287
THEYRE the same


>>2849389
They are


>>2849253
you are correct and you must never stop saying it loud
mods are creeps, perverts, degenerates



 

Peru’s Keiko Fujimori wins presidential election, in latest victory for Latin American right
Fujimori won the 7 June presidential runoff by the slimmest of margins, outpolling Sanchez by fewer than 50,000 votes out of the more than 18 million ballots cast, the final results showed.Peru’s National Electoral Jury is scheduled to officially announce a winner on 3 July after weeks spent reviewing contested ballots.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/30/keiko-fujimori-wins-peru-presidential-election-polls-runoff

Milei-linked Fundación Faro told to name donors behind US$4.8mn windfall
Fundación Faro presented itself as a platform of ideas. But the libertarian think tank’s opaque finances, links to key Milei insiders and 400-fold surge in donations have left the organisation facing uncomfortable questions from regulators and judges.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/milei-linked-fundacion-faro-told-to-name-donors-behind-us48mn-windfall.phtml
https://archive.ph/boa9x

Lula leads Senator Bolsonaro in Brazil presidential run-off, poll shows
Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva ​would win a potential second-round ‌run-off vote in the October presidential elections against opposition Senator Flavio ​Bolsonaro, an AtlasIntel/Bloomberg poll showed ​on Wednesday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/lula-leads-senator-bolsonaro-brazil-presidential-run-off-poll-shows-2026-07-01/

Colombia’s left candidate calls for ‘civil disobedience’ over rivals’ ties to the US
He said that Mr de la Espriella should clarify whether he is a US “agent” because, as a criminal defence lawyer, he had defended a former paramilitary leader who was an informant for the US Drug Enforcement Administration. Mr Cepeda also said that the president-elect should dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Hind Rajab Foundation calls on top prosecutor to investigate Ben Gvir ahead of NYC visit
The groups are also urging James to meet with what they say are local victims of Ben Gvir, including one Palestinian American subjected to starvation and torture in Israeli prison, as well as 10 participants in the 2025 and 2026 Global Sumud Flotillas who were subjected to abuse directly by Ben Gvir.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hind-rajab-foundation-calls-top-prosecutor-investigate-ben-gvir-ahead-new-york-visit

Trump administration says the ICC has no jurisdiction over Americans
The U.S. ​Department of ‌Justice on Thursday said ​it had ​told the International ⁠Criminal Court ​in a ​letter that the United States ​would not ​cooperate with any ‌ICC ⁠investigations and that it rejected the ​view ​that ⁠the court had ​any ​jurisdiction ⁠over Americans.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-says-icc-has-no-jurisdiction-over-americans-2026-07-02/

Trump puts allies on notice: AI power comes first
For the White House, it's now about how partners can help the U.S. win the AI race. For decades, shared values and security interests have underpinned alliances with Europe and other partners around the world. Under Trump, that's no longer enough. As AI becomes central to economic and military power, frontier AI models, chips and infrastructure are turning into new instruments of American influence.
https://www.axios.com/2026/07/02/trump-allies-ai-power
https://archive.ph/xlqTm

ICE arrests 10,000 in 5 days, a sharp late-June surge in Trump’s deportation push
The arrest numbers, obtained from a person familiar with the information who spoke anonymously to discuss data that has not been publicly released, comes after the agency shifted its approach from high-profile arrest sweeps in major American cities to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Communist Party of Ireland on the Irish Presidency of the EU: "There is simply not a better or more peaceful EU to be won"
As the Irish government assumes the Presidency of the European Union from July our people will continue to be bombarded by over-exaggerated claims about the democratic nature of the EU and the extent of the Irish government influence on decisions, selling us the myth that we are at the heart of the EU power structures. This is simply untrue. The Irish government follows orders as a willing servant of the EU. It has intentionally abandoned all serious levers of national economic sovereignty and national political independence. Since the adoption of the Nice and Lisbon treaties, militarism has been baked into the structure of the EU. Economic and social policies favour big business and attack workers rights. These treaties cemented the “primacy of the market” over national social and economic policies. For example, the restrictions on state-led housing strategy and ensuring both housing and healthcare favours global financial institutions and mega-corporations.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/07/communist-party-of-ireland-on-irish-presidency-of-eu.html

When the Personal Is Political — and When It Isn’t
This commitment to linking the subjective and the structural has shaped feminist theory and practice for decades. Feminists have often combined structural analyses of oppression with an interest in ethical conduct, personal experience, and self-transformation. Political emancipation has been understood not only as a collective project but also as a personal one. Feminism, in this sense, has never been concerned solely with changing the world. It has also been concerned with changing the self. Today, however, this relationship between ethics and politics has become increasingly complicated. Over the past four decades, neoliberalism has transformed not only economies and states but also the ways individuals understand themselves and their responsibilities. As many critics have observed, neoliberalism encourages us to see ourselves as autonomous, responsible subjects whose successes and failures are largely products of our own choices. Social problems are increasingly interpreted as matters of individual responsibility rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2856955
>Trump administration says the ICC has no jurisdiction over Americans
Shit, why didn't maduro think of that



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the commanding heights of the economy should be state owned. commodities essential to the survival of the society should be collectively owned by society. commodities essential to the survival of the individual should be the property of the individual who intends to use them, after they have been produced by society. production of commodities not essential to the survival of the individual can be produced by worker owned cooperatives that are limited by the state in number according to production plan, that way you don't have a whole country of people running off to make vidya games for a living when there are ores to be mined and surgeries to be performed. add in labor vouchers with a clear date of expiration and periodic decay from the date of distribution, so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts. Keep statistics on necessities so they are not produced just in time as needed, with only a small buffer surplus, to avoid the problem of food waste. Encourage frequent days off and healthcare checkups for preventative care, so that serious medical interventions are needed less often, and problems like cancer can be nipped in the bud early. If the population begins to age too much, resulting in too many retirees to take care of, while birth rates decline… fuck. I haven't figured that one out yet.
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>>2855998
you still would need vouchers to decay and/or expire so people don't horde them to reproduce money capital

>>2856127
You can't do M - C - M' if there is no money (medium which mystifies value). Plus the value of time-vouchers decreases as production develops, since it takes less time. But 1 hour of labor-time is still 1 hour of labor-time. More effectively you could even go down to joules to get even better measurements.

>>2855969
>do NOT imagine a better state of things
you really are a socdem

>>2856292
if labor vouchers can be hoarded and exchanged for means of production, then a neo-bourgeoisie could emerge from a cartel of labor voucher hoarders.

>>2856808
Who owns the MoP you're exchanging this "hoarded pile of labor vouchers"? And why is your Crusoe so keen on owning MoP?



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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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>>2856475
what put him on the map is his uncle is chunk yogurt of the young turks, also he dated porn stars

>>2856098
>u sure bout that? cuz hasan said blah blah blah
your random example doesn't mean anything statistically significant
>>2856415
part of getting a lot of attention is being a narcissist and this guy's job is to get attention and give attention to the things giving him attention

>>2856415
>streamer is a narcissist
I mean isn't it practically a requirement of the job? put yourself on camera and yap for hours, gotta have a significant ego or you probably wouldn't bother doing it except as a hobby

Looks the dirtbag left LEFT to get the BAG ($$$).

>>2856792
Don't go into debt for your daddy who doesnt know you exist now. gl bud



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If you think about it…

The ACP is basically all the worst parts of CPUSA combined into a single reactionary party that exists to cry about all the other orgs, coup subreddits, support the petitie-bourgesisie, and be transphobic.

>flood
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>>2856417
Western "marxists" be like:
"I disagree with this national socialist party on many points, especially the mysticism and larp, but the fascism part is valid"

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>>2855647
>>2856367
>>2856369
>A Menshevik, eurocom and Marcyite walk into a bar…
You lack complexity and demonstrate naivite. The following quantitative methodology thread will help improve your material analysis, for you are missing connections as demonstrated by your sentences.
Read in full before replying: >>2758817

The worst part of the CPUSA is that they are loyal slaves of the Democrats and you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.

>>2856369
>PSL
I used to think so to but they pussied out big time by condemning the SMO in Ukraine.

>>2856375
>infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside
What "leftism" in America exists to infiltrate you fucking retard? Your shitty little Twitter clique? Your subreddit? Name even one organization that matters, that has achieved anything in half a century. There is nothing to destroy.

>>2856569
>how is babby formed?

>>2856569
u jus big mad that ppl dont take you seriosuly cuz why tf would they



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‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom reported that the first site will open in Tel Sultan, near Rafah, “within weeks”, and house civilians “with no weapons or affiliation with Hamas”. It added that the zone will be policed by a “multinational force”, known as the International Stabilisation Force (ISF), which will be equipped with “non-lethal weapons” and operate from the Israeli Amitai Camp near Gaza under the command of the board. According to the report, while aid and temporary housing will be supplied to the areas, Board of Peace officials have pledged not to import concrete into Gaza.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trumps-board-peace-launch-hamas-free-shelters-while-israel-tightens-grip-gaza

Turkey eases job rules for 1M+ Syrians under temporary protection
Turkey introduced a work permit requirement for Syrians under temporary protection in 2016. Under the initial rules, employers were allowed to hire one Syrian worker for every 10 Turkish employees, a quota that was later eased to one Syrian worker for every five Turkish employees. Refugee rights groups have long said that work permit requirements prompted widespread informal employment among Syrians, many of whom work in sectors such as agriculture, textiles, construction, manufacturing and services.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2026/06/turkey-eases-job-rules-1m-syrians-under-temporary-protection-what-know

Morocco: Rights group says 'face' of Gen Z protests Zineb Kharroubi's suspended sentence 'worrying'
The Moroccan Association for Human Rights (AMDH) said Zineb Kharroubi's six-month suspended sentence for her activism during the youth-led protests last year "forms part of a wider trend of increasing prosecutions targeting young people engaged in the peaceful exercise of their fundamental rights," in a statement to The New Arab.
https://www.newaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thank you based news anon,

Tybna

I created a visualization of the 577 people George Washington held in chattel slavery at Mt Vernon

https://erikhoudini.com/577

>>2856197
Uh I think you mean the 577 underprivileged urban youths he provided internships for

>>2856165
>‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
So what's the leftypol righist cope patrol's line on these countries joining the BoP under literal "chairman for life" Trump?
· Vietnam (Ae Ea Ss!1)
· Belarus (need I say more)
· Kazakhstan (leftypol loved when they shot the strikers)
· Cambodia (Vietnam is responsible)
? The silence is so loud it's hilarious



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What’s with the hate on Japan about xenophobia. WW2 hate is valid, but hating them for immigration is stupid if you don’t criticise China on it.

If you gonna hate Japan for that then you have zero idea how strict China is.


>Xenophobia Japan

/leftypol/: NUKE JAPAN
>Xenophobia China
/leftypol/: Well actually….
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>>2855832
what are you going to do about it, baizuo?

>>2855835
Call you out on your hypocrisy

The difference is that one nation is fascist and the other is steadfast in proletarian internationalism. Hope this helps

>>2855795
And to think Logo Daedalus constantly tells his followers that the Chinese are all well-read on William Blake and how the PRC is le Christian country.

Although China is facing severe population decline, its current absolute labor force and total population are still incredibly large. So unlike Japan or some European countries, China doesn't have an urgent need to open its doors and attract foreign low-skilled laborers. Therefore, China's immigration policy won't see any fundamental changes in the short term. You might think China lacks diversity, but that's probably just a stereotype - there are plenty of Tibetans and Uyghurs, and while they're a tiny fraction of the huge Han population, they still make up a significant group



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Obviously if we were in charge of government there would be a variety of options but what can we personally do right now to prevent the monthly mass shooting done by some neo-nazi. This cannot keep happening. Surely there must be something we can do.
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We send rightists to the gulags so we can re-educate them. If they don't change, gas them

>>2846515
redirect it against piggies

>>2846581
If you read the shooting as anything less than a miscalculation from some illiterate dipshit. I'd question your sanity and your integrity as a human being.

>>2851494
the best way to win a game of chicken is to throw your steering wheel out the window and make sure the other guy sees you do it

>>2851729
faggot



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The following analysis of structural coercion and surplus extraction holds entirely true even if the classical Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is mathematically false. Whether the ultimate price of a commodity is determined by socially necessary labor time or subjective marginal utility, the physical reality of the power dynamic remains unchanged. Surplus extraction is a function of material leverage, not the metaphysical origin of economic value.

1. Ownership is a Survival Bottleneck
<The capitalist does not participate in value creation merely through ownership; they control a physical bottleneck. They gatekeep the tools, infrastructure, and resources required to produce a livelihood. Because the owning class has historically enclosed the means of production as private property, the worker cannot survive independently. They are physically forced to approach the capitalist to secure the means of their own survival.

2. The Contract is Structural Extortion
<Because the worker's alternative to employment is homelessness and starvation (structural coercion), the negotiation is absolutely asymmetrical. The capitalist dictates the terms: "I will allow you access to my tools to earn your survival, but only if you surrender a significant portion of the value you generate to me." The worker must comply. This is not a voluntary transaction; it is extortion backed by biological necessity.

3. Surplus is a "Survival Tax
<Regardless of how prices are set on the market, the mathematical difference between the revenue the worker's output generates and the wage they receive is siphoned by the owner. This surplus is not a legitimate reward for "time preference" or "risk," as mainstream economics insists. It is a survival tax, a toll the worker pays for the right to remain alive. The capitalist can collect this tax exclusively because state violence (police and property laws) protects their monopoly over the means of production.

Materialist Conclusion
<Surplus extraction is a pure metric of power. It calculates exactly how much material wealth the owning class can squeeze from the producing class using the structural threat of starvation, stopping just short of triggering mass dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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OP hasnt read capital. thats not what the labour theory of value is, thats just what online ancaps think the labour theory of value is.
no muh mudpie is not a valid argument, no marx did not deny supply and demand, no marx did not deny that there are multiple factors that determine the prices of commodities

read the actual fucking book

>>2855223
Can you actually make an argument how it follows that, "if you did not have diminishing returns for labour (…) there would be no profit". Your original claim, now quoted at you for the third time.

>>2856161
I'm not the anon making nonsense claims about profit requiring diminishing returns from labour

>>2854445
shit, an ai thread and anons arent even noticing. its fucking over lol, its been dead the last few months tbh

>>2856465
Literally said in first reply:
>sounds very LLMish tbh
Second reply:
>Thank you for your ChatGPT revisionism



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