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Any one off philosophical writings by work men or peasants you know of?
Or anonymous one off philosophy works?
A good example of this is Menocchio/Domenico Scandella.

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>>2506550
obvious bait but anyone can plainly see that the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling classes, that the workers and peasants are less likely to contribute to the "body of knowledge" because the "body of knowledge" is gatekept by the ruling classes, and the workers and peasants are deprived of the very same formal education that the ruling classes deem make one "worthy" of "contributing" to the "body of knowledge." One can observe quite easily that the ruling classes would lack the free time which allows them to "contribute" to the "body of knowledge" if it weren't for the (to quote you) "worthless rats" doing all the work for them. Without servants, the ruling classes would be too busy working for a living to contribute to the "body of knowledge".

The video seems to indicate that Menocchio was not the poorest peasant but closer to something like a Kulak, since he ran two mills, had 11 children, was prominent enough that his opinion in the community warranted heresy trials. He was also literate and could do math. The reason we don't know about teh vast majority of poor people's opinions throughout history is, as the video said, they were illiterate and their opinions were utterly disregarded by the elites, and therefore not committed to records by them. Most of our data about the exploited classes is purely economic: Transactions of slaves, Taxes collected from peasants, tithes paid to the church by peasants, workers lost in a construction accident, soldiers lost in battle.

Epictetus (Slave) stoic philosopher

Spinoza (Lens maker)

Joseph dietzgen (a Tanner by trade) created dialectical materialism independent of Marx.

>>2507048
>Joseph dietzgen (a Tanner by trade) created dialectical materialism independent of Marx.
Cockshott argues that only Dietzgen created DiaMat and Marx never created DiaMat.



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So America never went through a feudalism stage being a settler colonial entity . The petit boo sprang fourth fully formed due to land/resource theft and genocide. No stages of history just right into the industrial age . I find It’s why You can’t apply a Marxist analogy of Germany or England or France to America. So why does Marx still apply this Eurocentric analysis that misses this important point about America in his letters to Lincoln and other writings about America?

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>>2509038
>So America never went through a feudalism stage
Cockshott argues in this video…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceXrK7LCvmE

….that the period between the abolition of slavery in 1863 and the total mechanization of agriculture in the 1940s was a period where black southerners were basically treated as serfs. They had no generational wealth to fall back on, and no education, and so many of them basically returned to their plantations, but as sharecroppers instead of slaves. They were tied to the land and paid rent by working. It was essentially a form of quasi-serfdom.

>The petit booj sprang fourth fully formed due to land/resource theft and genocide. No stages of history just right into the industrial age .


English colonists first arrived in the early 1600s and full industrialization wasn't achieved in the USA until the 1930s. In fact a majority of US citizens were still rural until the 1930s.

>I find It’s why You can’t apply a Marxist analogy of Germany or England or France to America.


Marxism is not a dogma to be applied by copy pasting it onto every situation. It is a doctrine of adaptation and evolution to local circumstances. This is why the Chinese call it "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" even though American "communists" who have achieved next to nothing mock them for (allegedly) doing "national socialism."
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Indigenous resistance in Paraguay forces Peña’s government to back down
On October 3, it was announced that this Indigenous struggle in Paraguay had been successful. The leaders of the protests said, “Our heroic resistance has paid off. Today, the first point of our demand was achieved: the dismissal of Ramón Benegas from the presidency of the INDI. Following this measure, we held a meeting with the new president of the INDI, Mr. Hugo Samaniego, to whom we reiterated our demands. The new president agreed to return INDI’s headquarters to Asunción, which will allow for the full reactivation of services to our brothers and sisters.”
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/10/04/indigenous-resistance-in-paraguay-forces-penas-government-to-back-down/

Trouble brewing: Maya people in Yucatán fear new Heineken plant’s thirst for water
At a rallying point in the city, protesters read from a manifesto and accuse the government of prioritising profit over water, health and land. They denounce a wave of mega-projects imposed without their consent, from industrial-scale pig farms to the controversial Maya Train tourist expansion. But they reserve their greatest anger for the Heineken brewery in Kanasín, near Mérida, which was announced in June.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/04/maya-heineken-brewery-yucatan-mexico-cenote-ring

Double setback for Milei as Congress overturns two vetoes
Senators invalidated both vetoes, which had already been rejected by the lower house Chamber of Deputies, bringing to three the number of laws upheld by Congress despite vehement opposition from Milei. The upper house voted 59 to seven, with three abstentions, to override the veto on the paediatric emergency. The law boosting funding for public universities drew a near identical tally, with 58 votes in favour, seven against and four abstentions.
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US Supreme Court to hear Exxon bid for compensation from Cuban entities
The U.S. Supreme Court agreed on Friday to hear ExxonMobil's bid to obtain compensation from Cuban state-owned firms for oil and gas assets seized in 1960 under a federal law that lets Americans sue foreign companies and individuals over property confiscated by the communist-ruled Caribbean country. The justices took up Exxon's appeal of a lower court's ruling that undercut its legal efforts to win such compensation from Cuban state-owned companies that allegedly have profited from stolen property in litigation invoking a 1996 U.S. law called the Helms-Burton Act.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-supreme-court-hear-exxon-bid-compensation-cuban-entities-2025-10-03/

Border Patrol agents shoot woman amid Chicago immigration protests
A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said in a statement Saturday that no law enforcement officers were seriously injured in the incident in which a group, including the shot woman, rammed cars into vehicles used by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. The woman, a US citizen who was not identified, drove herself to the hospital, according to the statement. No additional information was immediately available about the woman’s condition.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/4/border-patrol-agents-shoot-woman-amid-chicago-immigration-protests
https://archive.ph/tSx14

Georgia-based journalist Mario Guevara arrives in El Salvador after his deportation from the U.S.
On Wednesday, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Guevara's deportation could go forward, finding that, while the journalist did have the First Amendment right to report on the protest, he had not filed the proper paperwork to apply for permanent residency.
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James Connolly: Our Rulers as a Study
The most interesting study for an intelligent worker to take up and make his own is, in our opinion, the study of the natural history of the ruling class. It is not only interesting in itself, but leads to and makes necessary excursions into all sorts of allied fields of study, so that once you have begun to take it up seriously you are led on almost unconsciously to a broadening of your field of vision, and a deepening of your insight into the heart of things. Also, as you grasp more firmly the lines on which the ruling class proceed, and the policy which enables them to retain their place in the saddle, you receive a higher opinion of the worth to the world of the mere toilers and humble ones whose place is among the ruled, whose backs itch with the gall sores of the saddle these gentry bestride Some such thoughts as these must surely be arising in the minds of many Irish workers in Dublin and throughout Ireland to-day. They must see around them continually accumulating evidences of the unscrupulous methods by which the ruling class strive to ensure a continuance of their ruling. They must see how in times of security the ruling class bully, brow-beat and tyrannise over the people, and how in times of insecurity these same rulers come around whining and crawling, and protesting their common interest with those whom but yesterday they denounced as dogs and rabble.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/connolly/1915/01/rulers.htm

What Is To Be Done? by Vladimir Lenin: Conclusion
The history of Russian Social-Democracy can be distinctly divided into three periods:
The first period embraces about ten years, approximately from 1884 to 1894. This was the period of the rise and consolidation of the theory and programme of Social-Democracy. The adherents of the new trend in Russia were very few in number. Social-Democracy existed without a working-class movement, and as a political party it was at the embryonic stage of development. The second period embraces three or four years—1894-98, In this period Social-Democracy appeared on the scene as a social movement, as the upsurge of the masses of the people, as a political party. This is the period of its childhood and adolescence. The intelligentsia was fired with a vast and general zeal for Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

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>>2508910
> to what extent they believe their own bullshit
what they do matters more than what they think. imagine a world where every religious person was secretly atheist but they kept going to church, kept paying tithes, kept fighting in religious wars, kept pushing for the spread of their religion… what goes on in their heads wouldn't matter one bit, would it? "Beliefs" are just the veil that actions wear to make them quickly and easily socially transmissible. A "belief that compels people to act" travels around the world while a "reason to do something" is still getting its shoes on.

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>>2508912
woah… la raza cosmica…

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>>2508912
shhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell them

>>2508909
Who said anything about thought crime? Just don’t let them be bitter.

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What's the real story behind the Soviet deportations during WW2 because even MLs say that it was a bad thing but that feels like capitulation that Stalin is as bad as the Nazis as it was an ethnic cleansing from how it's described by western liberal historians
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>>2508335
If this is true why didn't they deport ethnic Ukranians?

>>2508789
There are limits to the logistics of evacuating civilians en masse, can't save everybody

>>2508789
Because there were actually very few Ukrainian collaborators relative to their population. The ratio of Ukrainians that took up arms against the USSR vs those who fought for the Red Army is about 1:35. Also almost all the collaborators were from Galicia. The idea that Ukrainians weren't enthusiastic participants and defenders of the Soviet project is Nazi propaganda.

>>2508800
Is that ratio of the whole population of the UkSSR, or just the actual Ukrianians?

>>2508818
That's the ratio of the combined strength of the UPA and 14th SS division (200k) vs the number of Ukrainians who served in the Red Army (7 million).



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Hamas agrees to release hostages but rejects foreign governorship of Gaza
Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk told Al Jazeera that the group would not disarm before the Israeli occupation ends. "The other issues mentioned in President Trump’s proposal regarding the future of the Gaza Strip and the inherent rights of the Palestinian people are linked to a comprehensive national position based on relevant international laws and resolutions, and are being discussed within a national framework," the Hamas statement said. A Hamas senior representative in Doha, Osama Hamdan, told Al Araby TV following the announcement that Hamas will not accept foreign governorship of the enclave, and that it must be run by Palestinians, even transitionally.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-agrees-release-all-israeli-captives-dead-or-alive

US judge dismisses lawsuit accusing UN agency of aiding Hamas attack on Israel
U.S. District Judge Analisa Torres in Manhattan said the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) had "absolute immunity" from the lawsuit because it is a subsidiary of the United Nations, which has immunity from such lawsuits. In her decision made public on Wednesday, Torres also rejected an argument that UNRWA was merely a "specialized agency" not entitled to immunity.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/10/us-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-accusing-un-agency-aiding-hamas-attack-israel

From Ang Bayan: NPA Unit Conducts Successful Attack On AFP Troops In Samar Province
Western Samar (Arnulfo Ortiz Command) unit fired the first shots against the 8th ID troopers operating in Sitio San Pedro, Barangay Poblacion 3, San Jose de Buan, Samar on the afternoon of September 27. With high alertness and guerrilla readiness, the people’s army’s attack killed one soldier and injured many others. The NPA-Western Samar reported that at 5 p.m. that day the 8th ID deployed a helicopter to retrieve its wounded soldiers. The soldiers again squandered funds the next day by flying another helicopter.
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Trump Bombs Another Boat in Caribbean
President Donald Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced on social media Friday that they bombed another boat in the Caribbean—at least the fourth alleged drug-smuggling vessel attacked by the US military since early September.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-bomb

Newsom signs bill giving 800,000 Uber and Lyft drivers in California the right to unionize
The new law is part of an agreement made in September between Newsom, state lawmakers and the Service Employees International Union, along with rideshare companies Uber and Lyft. In exchange, Newsom also signed a measure supported by Uber and Lyft to significantly cut the companies’ insurance requirements for accidents caused by underinsured drivers.
https://apnews.com/article/lyft-uber-rideshare-driver-union-california-68c0e55f90b779ae38e315538087d1b3

Leqaa Kordia has been held since March for overstaying a visa, after participating in multiple pro-Palestinian protests=
In her first interview since her arrest, Kordia said recently that she was motivated to protest because of deep personal ties to Gaza, where more than 170 relatives have been killed. The government has cast those ties as suspect, pointing to Kordia’s money transfers to relatives in the Middle East as evidence of possible ties to terrorists.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/03/leqaa-kordia-campus-protesters-gaza

‘Taking On AIPAC Again,’ Cori Bush Launches Campaign to Win Back House Seat
Former Democratic Congresswoman Cori Bush is running again in Missouri to reclaim the US House seat from which she was ousted last year amid a tsunami of campaign spending against her and other progressives by the Israel lobby.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/cori-bush-running-for-congress
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UNLOCKED: The Sumud Flotilla Interview (feat. Zue Jernstedt) (Chapo Trap House )
Zue Jernstedt joins us live from the Global Sumud Flotilla to talk to us about delivering aid to those in Gaza and weathering attacks from Israel.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/unlocked-the-sumud-flotilla-interview-feat-zue-jernstedt

Democrats Are Screwing Up the Shutdown
Schumer, Jeffries, and other senior Democrats always mention health care at some point in their statements, but it’s hard to escape the impression that their real passion is reserved for issues of process and decorum. They seem especially concerned with establishing that the other side drew first blood. Their core complaint seems to be that Trump and the Republicans broke from precedent by presenting the Continuing Resolution (CR) that would have continued funding as an ultimatum rather than negotiating about details. A video released on Thursday by Schumer’s Senate colleague Bernie Sanders exemplifies a strikingly different approach. In this walk-and-talk video, Sanders starts by saying he just ran into democratic socialist congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC). After an opening thirty seconds of sweet and slightly silly greetings, the two cut to the case. Bernie asks AOC why she didn’t vote for the Continuing Resolution. She replies, simply and directly, that by cutting subsidies for buying health insurance for state exchanges, the immediate effect of the CR would be that millions of Americans would see their monthly insurance premiums double.
https://jacobin.com/2025/10/democrats-shutdown-health-care-bernie-aoc

The Gen Z revolutions: India next?
After Nepal joined Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, the list of countries yet to be roiled by revolution on the Subcontinent has been reduced to three: India, Pakistan and the tiny Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan. [Even as these lines are being written, a mass movement is unfolding on the Pakistan side of the Line of Control in Kashmir.] Events just across the Indian border in Nepal unfolded in a matter of hours and days. If and when this revolutionary wave comes home to India, iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>https://thediplomat.com/2025/10/protests-violence-erupt-in-pakistan-administered-kashmir/
this article is so bad. i wonder if the author just asked chatgpt to write it. it essentially repeats itself like 4 times and has almost no actual information.

Why are Hamas doing this?



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>>2503447
The 2nd burger civil war be some Akira level shit. Nukes used, Biker gangs, psychedelic mafias, multiple warlords claiming to be the messiah, it's gonna be so kino. Shit unseen since Taiping rebellion.

it will be full of war crimes and rape of course

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>>2502393
>please, please make more kids. please. we need to beat china. please grow the reserve army of labor. we need to beat china. please just have 5 kids. no i won't give you higher wages. just get pregnant. please. i need slaves. just… we're getting rid of abortion ok. and birth control. and condoms. and sex education. get in the bed, you need to get pregnant. it's not a breeding fetish. we need to beat china, ok?

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>>2502401
where did he learn to dance like that

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>>2507104
same way hegel's "science of logic" is not a series of empirical experiments.

>>2498388
this is nice, unironically, but it doesnt erase the fact that modern marginalist economists are completely retarded

>>2529745
such as?

>>2530974
monetarists

>>2533350
monetarism isnt a marginalist economic theory?



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I know you American folks like to freak out whenever someone calls you treatlers and insinuate that you are collaborators in your government's imperialism and world raping. But let's be honest, between us, it is true right? I know the Theory of Treatlerism is not glamorous… but it is correct, right?
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>>2507882
>>2507878
What the bourgeoisie calls "services" produce no value. Read proletarian political economic textbook. Everything you said is wrong.
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch15.htm
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch20.htm

>>2507883
I never brought up services. Baristas aren't service workers, they're produce vendible commodities. Customer service workers are service workers because they don't produde suplus value. Even a porn star who produces a DVD film or porn movie is more proletarian than an Indian customer service worker because they produce a vendible commodity (Adam Smith).

>>2507883
>stars are the only proletarians because anything other than creating atoms is just moving shit around

>>2507809
theres a wide gap between read settlers third worldists and principled analysis of labor aristocracy.

>large group but not everyone in the 401k group is automatically precariat

yeah i was saying theres two groups the 401k group who are a new type of petty bourgeois and the precariat who are lumpen. the first being a part of the FDR new deal which was ultimately a compromise to stop communist revolution after ww2 while industry was booming and the big bourgeoisie could afford concessions. the actual proletariat is small but growing, the problem is that lumpen arent moving up, its petty bourgeois getting pushed down and becoming reactionary because there is no organized movement to educate them.

>>2506690
Is that what imperialism means?



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I dont like tankies but i hate nazis so i guess that puts me on the left.
Created this epic maymay after the DHS made post of gigachad being anti communist, which like everything else these fascist post has no base in reality and is telling about their media literacy.
please be kind like i know giga chad is.
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>>2507742
>>2507743
Shame about your infantile disorder

>>2507749
>>2507742
Otherwise great minds think alike

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>>2506935
He doesn't look like his pics though ;_;

>>2506935
he also hates when people make memes of him



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