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Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

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>>2788767
Same exact reason leftists thinks having monsters in your story is an endorsement of racialism and colonialism and will encourage beating up black people for xp, idealism

>>2788767
to reiterate, it's a culture war thing. it's because the left have this idea that media will profoundly influence people, especially young people, so the content of said media should be carefully considered and safeguarded. the right won't challenge that idea, or critically explore it; their strategy is to run with it and assert that media should espouse messaging that they approve of, so they'll look for any media they think is representative of their world view and annex it as an example of 'media done right', whether or not said media was actually created by people who would agree with their interpretation of its messaging. 'death of the author' makes it possible to try and interpret anything in any way you so choose, so there may be left-leaning interpretations of the same media, and both sides will squabble over the finer details and try to gain narrative supremacy over how this game should be digested.

as for political figures like trump, elon, matt walsh, ben shapiro, dennis prager etc. they're all effectively demagogues for the right wing. a demagogue is a sycophant who spreads propaganda and messaging that is sympathetic to organizations and ideologies to which they belong, uncritically and for the sake of making political headway. they're bad-faith propagandists. they all have variances in their beliefs (shapiro and prager are zionists; elon is most likely anti-zionist; walsh and trump play to the fundamental christian interpretation of traditional values), but they all present a unified front against the left, and although no one is immune to confirmation bias, the right wing tend to value tribalism over critical thinking, so they'll make apologetics for the flaws in their world view that don't necessarily make sense when examined, and will be generally unwilling to change their world view to accommodate a wider and more nuanced perspective.

Why do anarchists think that they are left wing?

Did the mods delete the thread advertising vidrel?

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Upon the first notion of "equal rights", I would historicise the context of equality to being something "constitutional" (as Aristotle speaks of in the 4th century BCE, where he makes a distinction between a wife and a slave, whether she be a maid-servant or a male). The wife differs from the maiden by the contract of marriage, which in monogamous societies, advances from the polygamous (for example, the Old Testament features polygamy in the prophets yet in the New Testament, Jesus commands monogamy, such that in marriage "two become one flesh"). We also see the dynamics of marriage in the Greek Myths, like Homer's Iliad (800 BCE), where Zeus suffers the nagging of his wife Hera, and so seeks to appease her. Here, the almighty is limited in his power by loyalty in marriage, making his options adultery, which reak havoc upon the adulteress. Thus, the wife shares the power of the patriarch and monogamy is a regulation upon his power. Thus, rather than marriage being a mere relationship of property (e.g. the father "giving away" his daughter to a new master), the wife is immediately empowered, and the man is disempowered. So then, the first act of gender equality is the ancient rite of marriage.

We also see in the Iliad, where Agamemnon offers gifts to Achilles, he gives the offering of a wife, and concubines, as though there is no contradiction in the contract. Thus, the Wife is not simply a gendered position, but a class position, which is superior to the sex-object. Further readings upon the relative power of the wife we may read in Plutarch's "Parallel Lives" (115 CE):
<Discoursing on the power of women, he said: “All other men rule their wives; we rule all other men, and our wives rule us.” This, however, is a translation from the sayings of Themistocles. He, finding himself much under his son’s orders through the lad’s mother, said: “Wife, the Athenians rule the Hellenes, I rule the Athenians, thou rulest me, and thy son thee. Therefore let him make sparing use of that authority which makes him, child though he is, the most powerful of the Hellenes.”
https://lexundria.com/plut_cat_ma/8/prr#t8
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>>2789095
because they are mostly. Communist arent alone being "left wing" sadly



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I don't know which board this belongs to. Brutalism or functionalism has been the main architectural choice for most of the Eastern Bloc nations, I've enjoyed it for its utility but also thought of the prospect of elegance and appeal so I did some searching looking for any compromise between it and my other favorite styles - baroque and gothic and it seems like at some point galician baroque had a brutalist turn on its own accord as seen in Santa Clara Convent in Santiago de Compostela, Spain, by Simon Rodriguez (1719).
I am primarily interested in this because my organization wants to have its own office & offices at some point, right now all we've got is an apartment space used for storage and our own personal homes / apartments. I want something functional yet plausible from an aesthetic point of view.
Panel structures are not really plausible anymore - panels are no longer produced since the privatization of the industry, had it been an option we would've just settled for our own panel bloc.

Feel free to use this as an architecture general, but I'm trying to find some achievable examples of good looking buildings. I am beyond tired of shitty squats that refuse to remodel in fear that they might end up being lost anyway.
Very fond of pyramids in peculiar, as most people know pyramids are the most structurally sound and therefore stable structures that can last eons regardless of all sorts of disasters.

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>>2789177
Some more examples of Galician structures in a brutalist style. Although I fucking hate brutalist statues, they look like ass. The DPRK doesn't make statues like that for a reason. See this beauty on pic3. Soviet Realism is way better for expression than brutalism. Brutalism is only good for practicality / utility.

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>>2789192
Brutalist sculptures all look like this garbage to me.

>>2789192
That horreo has a detailed ornament so not really
That lighthouse was built by Romans not Gallicians

>>2789194
>pic
It's like Mata Nui and Squidward's House had children



 

So, it appears that despite the most common assumptions, labour "aristocratic"/well paid workers can and have been notable partecipants in the class struggle, everywhere from Italy to Chile and from the UK to South Africa

> The most important counter-example is the Russian working class in the early 20th century. The backbone of Lenin’s Bolsheviks (something he was most definitely aware of) were the best paid industrial workers in the Russian cities – skilled machinists in the largest factories. Lower paid workers, such as the predominantly female textile workers, were generally either unorganized or apolitical (until the beginnings of the revolution) or supported the reformist Mensheviks.


> German Communism became a mass movement when tens of thousands of well-paid metal workers left the Independent Socialists and joined the Communists in 1921. The French and Italian Communists also became mass parties through the recruitment of thousands of machinists who led the mass strikes of the postwar period. These highly paid workers were also overrepresented in the smaller Communist parties of the United States and Britain.


> In Chile between 1970 and 1973, and Argentina between 1971 and 1974, copper miners and metal workers engaged in industrial struggles and took the lead in mass mobilizations against the military and the right. In Brazil, it was the well-paid metal workers in the suburbs of San Paolo who led mass strikes in the 1970s that created the CUT


> it was the highest paid Black workers in South Africa – in mining, auto, steel – whose struggles in the 1970s created the radical and militant FOSATU trade union confederation.


https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/atc/129.html
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>>2787264
Bur leftypol told me we should support the national bourg?!?!

>>2786991
>When you say that the Iranian bourgeoisie must be destroyed for socialism
The bourgeoisie of all countries eventually need to be destroyed for socialism. Socialism as a system is antithetical to their existence.
>you are implicitly legitimizing the Israeli destruction of all of Iranian society
That might be the case if I hadn't said that the national bourgeoisie are progressive compared to imperialism and that Iran should be supported against Israel for this reason. How about you actually read what I said instead explicitly instead of imagining what you think I said implicitly?

>>2787471
You simply fail to recognize that anti-imperialism *is* part pf the overal arc of the proletarian revolution, and that that governments, even bourgeois ones, can have genuine popular legitimacy among the masses, because they, at this juncture, correspond with the interests of the masses.

All that so you can flatten the first world workers, who are aiding imperialism or doing nothing, with the third world workers, who are opposing it, as both "not doing revolution"

It is very transparent

>>2788523
>You simply fail to recognize that anti-imperialism *is* part pf the overal arc of the proletarian revolution
If you think I've failed to recognize that then you don't understand a word of my point. Anti-imperialism (even when bourgeois led) is obviously part of the socialist struggle, but unless it is followed by a revolutionary socialist government of workers and peasants, it becomes an exercise in futility. National bourgeois governments can accomplish important historical tasks without which socialism would be impossible, but their progressive potential is highly conditional, limited, and prone to disappearing as they reach a modus vivendi with imperialism. This has happened over and over again, and it is exceedingly rare for a national bourgeois revolution to result in socialism. Far more common is for the anti-imperialist orientation of such governments to gradually fade before evaporating completely (after neutralizing the local communists), bringing us back to square one.
>All that so you can flatten the first world workers, who are aiding imperialism or doing nothing, with the third world workers, who are opposing it, as both "not doing revolution"
I stand by that statement. Workers in the third world are not displaying much more in the way of independent class power and consciousness than their Western counterparts. They are absorbed into the political orbit of their bourgeoisie. The only difference is that the third world bourgeoisie which has absorbed them has some progressive potential, whereas the first world bourgeoisie do not. The working people of national bourgeois countries are absolutely being led into a better cause, but the problem is that they are being led rather than leading. This is the obvious origin of your impulse to substitute national bourgeois for proletarian politics and regimes, and your reluctance to acknowledge the clear limitations of the national bourgeoisie as a progressive force. If you were to acknowledge first, that the national bourgeoisie cannot supplant the proletariat as the ultimate revolutionary subject, and second, that the third world proletariat is captured by their bourgeoisie, you would be forced to abandon your chauvinist, anti-Marxist notions that replace class struggle with geopolitical cheerleading. I hope Iran utterlyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2788523
>that governments, even bourgeois ones, can have genuine popular legitimacy among the masses, because they, at this juncture, correspond with the interests of the masses.
Kek, you are fucking retarded



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Chapter 15 sucks. I thought it wasn't supposed be an appeal to morality? Recurring in several parts of the text but chapter 15 especially is a pure slog.
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>>2788829
thank you again for the MZT/M3W/MLM effortpost

How do you "justify" anything without an appeal to morality?

>>2788892
someone more philosophically inclined will probably clown on me for this but I think the 3 forms of justification are

>might makes right

>truth makes right
>morality makes right

something can be one of those things without being the other two.

An appeal to morality is only an appeal to moralists not necessarily an argument in an of itself.

>>2788522
The section on the Factory Acts is crucial to understanding the role of 'progressive' reforms and the state to capital. Limiting child labor and the working day allowed the further rationalization and extension of industrial production, while the seething laizzez-faire factory owners were actually better off once the laws were in place and their workforces weren't dropping like flies.



 

How exactly does one avoid being purged after a communist revolution?



The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.(Don't evade the character limit! But I will let this thread say since it's had a lot of discussion already.)
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so in summary stalins the best and if you dont like it fuck off

>>2788921
An issue i've never really heard addressed

>>2788921
What was stopping the soviet citizenry recalling gorbachev?

>>2788166
>I want a democracy
>We are not the same.
actually, you are
>In the usual argument about the state, the mistake is constantly made against which Engels warned and which we have in passing indicated above, namely, it is constantly forgotten that the abolition of the state means also the abolition of democracy; that the withering away of the state means the withering away of democracy.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch04.htm#s6

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Trotsky is the best



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>>2785583
name of the communist font?



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The Technological Republic, in brief.

1. Silicon Valley owes a moral debt to the country that made its rise possible. The engineering elite of Silicon Valley has an affirmative obligation to participate in the defense of the nation.

2. We must rebel against the tyranny of the apps. Is the iPhone our greatest creative if not crowning achievement as a civilization? The object has changed our lives, but it may also now be limiting and constraining our sense of the possible.

3. Free email is not enough. The decadence of a culture or civilization, and indeed its ruling class, will be forgiven only if that culture is capable of delivering economic growth and security for the public.

4. The limits of soft power, of soaring rhetoric alone, have been exposed. The ability of free and democratic societies to prevail requires something more than moral appeal. It requires hard power, and hard power in this century will be built on software.

5. The question is not whether A.I. weapons will be built; it is who will build them and for what purpose. Our adversaries will not pause to indulge in theatrical debates about the merits of developing technologies with critical military and national security applications. They will proceed.

6. National service should be a universal duty. We should, as a society, seriously consider moving away from an all-volunteer force and only fight the next war if everyone shares in the risk and the cost.

7. If a U.S. Marine asks for a better rifle, we should build it; and the same goes for software. We should as a country be capable of continuing a debate about the appropriateness of military action abroad while remaining unflinching in our commitment to those we have asked to step into harm’s way.
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>>2788861
The question was "Is religion extremely important in your life" and the plurality of the youth men said yes. Considering how popular Asmongold is to the point of being almost officially recognized as their spokesman I do believe in the results of this poll

>>2788900
>le asmongold
okay so why should we believe the poll? this is a genuine question because everything we know shows otherwise

>>2788902
The medium is the message, ever since normalfags got onto the internet hipsterism which would preclude millennials from having their own generational "pope" (central ideological authority figure) because we were raised on internet forums which had their own jannies and shit. While most zoomers are on mainstream social media platforms which mostly shoves the same sentiment that the masses have, thus making sure that they would have a more centralized ideological structure because of financial and social benefits that come from having the same ideas as everyone else does. If say you listened to Slipknot a millennial might like it but they would be equally likely to shit on you for it while pretty much every zoomer guy out there likes shonen anime, anime ops and rap music to at least until very recently very little deviation from that. This is why I have said in another thread that "Non-chuddified zoomers are starting to ween off the chudsauce but those that are already in it are doubling down"

>>2788913
well the problem is i really doubt there's such a thing as a "religious revival" because every source of data seems to indicate otherwise, if i look at the average zoomer they're not exactly enticed in religion, even if they may say "i'm catholic/muslim" and so on, they don't really believe it because it's there more or less as a flag to be waved

>>2788917
Of course, actual religious attendance is only like 5% of the population that consistently does so in spite of most polls showing it to be 22%. That doesn't mean that the fact that they have to wave the flag at all isn't an important social trend in itself however. Then again while the chuds are doubling down, the more centrist leaning spaces seem to have been moving away from them. It used to be extremely controversial and you would lose major "aura" points with zoomers if say you thought Frieren's demon depiction was low-key fascist or just bad but now I'm seeing more and more weebs saying that the woke people had a point there.



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>>2784409
>Government sources
Might as well get news from the Zionist entity

look at this based village in india. communism is still strong, alive, and well

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Lmao I remember the last 10 times the Indian government made this declaration.

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Your naxalite neighbor wants to kill You.

Your naxalite nieghbor is on his way to kill You.

Your naxalite nieghbor is knocking on your door with intention to kill You.

Your naxalite neighbor just killed You.



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Recently came across these tweets. Often I've seen folk argue that the nuclear family structure is inherently abusive and tied to capital, while others, including these tweets, argue that biological parents are the least likely to sexually abuse, unlike that of extended families/communal rearing. Are these stats any accurate at all? Discuss.
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>>2788528
You know there's already plenty of people who look after kids professionally right? Communal childrearing doesn't even sound that bad, I'd happily do that 1 day a month or whatever

>>2774116
in fact this study proves that the nuclear family structure format (two parents with very little outside ties) is actually extremely fragile. Even assuming this is true.

>>2788528
That type of person would probably not be doing much of the child raising anyways so it wouldn't matter too much what they say. At least I assume they wouldn't in a scenario where a child is being raised communally. Since they most likely won t be having kids they won't feel as obligated to be raising kids I imagine.

>>2788534
>You know there's already plenty of people who look after kids professionally right?
Yeah they’re called pedophiles

>>2788528
<bumping this dogshit thread to quote something nobody is saying
Fuck i hate our jannies.



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My idea for a fully libre workstation

I'd use a MilkV Jupiter SBC w/ mainline Linux support, and stack 2 or 3 MilkV Mars SBCs ontop of the Jupiter SBC, and use these as network LLM acceleration nodes for a mini-cloud, w/ ASIC USB for bitmining (e.g. SHA256) into each so you can earn money (I think it's like $2/a month), use Ovrdrive USBs for decryption behind LUKS and KeePassXC, and on the Jupiter SBC have a custom Gentoo profile w/ refused peoprietary packages and patchwork if needed, then harden the kernel and secure the bootchain, then after you decrypt the machine upon startup with the Ovrdrive USB, then plug-in a Modos paper display, Keyboardio keyboard, Ploopy mouse, dumb earphones and computer mic, passive speakers, possibly openearable BLE wireless earphones. Then use a custom SOCKS5 proxy written in Python w/ X25519, Poly1305, ChaCha20 and Kyber for post-quantum cryptographic protection of your network using FTC (Full Tunnel Control) over their connections. Use GNU Icecat as the web browser w/ LibreJS, nftables, kvm/qemu, firejail, pyshark, fail2ban amd gnunet/gnunet-vpn/gnunet CADET (or Jami) w/ Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 / VX-3000 or a Logitech QuickCam 4000 / QuickCam Express 1999 web cam. Then add a second MilkV Jupiter to serve as the IP over DHCP router that you hook-up to your conventional default ISP router via ethernet serial port/UART, and a MilkV Jupiter w/ custom drivers and formware w/ ath9k PCIe snapped to it for open 802.11 IP over DHCP, using ethernet to the other MilkV Jupiter for all connections. Now just connect to the wifi and you're in! You can use a Wio Lite RISC-V board for the modem connections via GPIO.

I have an idea for a cell phone replacement: MilkV Mars + ThinkPenguin USB cellular modem + LoRa concentrator board: RAK2245/RAK833 (SPI) or SX1301-based Pi HAT for multi‑channel gateway + Antenna: 868/915 MHz omnidirectional antenna (SMA) + enclosure, power (battery + small solar if off‑grid) + XPT2046 touch controller w/ Stylus pen + Gentoo w/ Phosh (Wayland). StarFive GPU drivers (Imagination BXE-4-32) are properly configured in your kernel to get hardware acceleration; otherwise, the UI will be sluggish. Input: The XPT2046 is a resistive touch controller. While reliable and great for stylus use, Phosh is designed primarily for capacitive multi-touch. You may need to calibrate the libinput profiles to handle the pressure-sensitive input correctly. The Stylus Experience: Since you’re using an XPT2046, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Not saying privacy isn't important because it is, and thank you for your tips, but sometimes, it's better to embrace normieism. If your User-Agent says "Hardened Gentoo", it's more sus than Windows 10 or Ubuntu. It's like someone showing up to a protest with a body armor, a gas mask and a construction worker helmet. If this is absolute chaos time, why not, but in calmer times, the police will immediately see you as a target and think you are up to no good. Still bumping the thread because there are interesting tidbits of knowledge in there.

>>2788396
Now I can watch anime without ads.

What's wrong w/ Google Pixel + GrapheneOS? Aside from giving money to Google ofc.

>>2788519
Debian already offers a RISC-V port, as do Arch and Suse iirc. There's also a dedicated OS for BananaPI w/ SpacemiT.

>>2788591
Will need USBguard, at least.



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