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>it works in practice but it doesn't work in theory edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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Does anyone have the video of the chinese guy living under a bridge in NYC shouting about how he was lied to that he could have a good life as a dishwasher?

>>2786931
>an article
thats just a random person ranting on the chinese equivalent of quora, not "an article" that examined the average condition thoroughly across the country

and yes a lot of factory work (especially exploiting rural migrant labor) can be pretty damn awful, thats standard capitalist dynamic at work
but on the other hand, these eventually get automated (or get outcompeted by automated factories and close), or there come a crackdown from the authorities, or they're forced to improve condition, or workers get truly fed up and come in the CEO office to sequester him and the authorities make an example out of him and send him to jail to calm everyone down
all statistics and metrics show that steadily things are improving, and work become higher quality and less harsh.

>>2787131
all polls show that on the contrary, they massively support the current system and government, and your argument is retarded, none of the developed states are at replacement rate

>>2787415
no, it was a smart policy with some bad side effects

>>2787825
You can’t genuinely support a system where you can’t afford to have kids, also polls are literally always wrong

>>2787943
i think we are being raided by the sharty rn



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Luddism, Malthusianism, Proudhonism and Lassalleanism edition


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>>2787974
Re-read my post you buffoon

>>2787979
my posts will change the world!!!

>>2788007
Yeah I read your post and it relies on me and my org being amerikkkan. If my party was helping homeless people and I started talking about TAD everyone would agree

>>2787202
>joker movie (2019) reference
spiritually burger

new thread burggas >>2788019



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Not sure if this board is suited for Q&A, but I’ll have to arrange myself as an ancap.

Is communism relevant at all?

If you think about it, Marx and many communists and socialists of his times thought that the first communist revolution would occur in one of Europe’s most industrialised places, namely England and Germany where there was a more substantial working class. Instead, the two most successful communist revolutions in history, the ones that produced lasting communist governments as opposed to the short-lived ones of Hungary and Bavaria, occurred in the heavily agrarian countries of Russia and China. Whilst the Russian empire did have some relatively minor industrial sector (albeit it still relied on serfs and their indebted descendants for most of its labor) compared to its European peers, China was still an agrarian society and even with modernisation under the republican post-Qing Kuomintang, China was by and large made up of peasants as opposed to proles. Same goes for Cuba, whose tourism and agriculture forms the backbone of its economy as opposed to industry, and Cuba is nowadays the only country on Earth to have anything approaching a genuine command economy.

Most communist revolutions thereafter heavily relied on Soviet or Chinese support throughout the Cold War, with many communist governments either falling (e.g., South Yemen) or switching to socdem/neolib economics (e.g., Angola) following the cut of Soviet aid.
For the global north, most of its citizenry work in the tertiary and primary sectors such as agriculture and IT as opposed to industry, as is the case in Britain, America, Italy, Sweden, Switzerland, etc… Germany and France are the only countries one can think of with an actual manufacturing sector, but those have been on the decline in recent years. That leaves us with South Korea and Japan in terms of having a strong manufacturing sector, and even then the tertiary sector of those countries makes up the biggest share of their economies.

As for the global south, the lack of industrialisation due to both the global north disincentivising them from it as well as national governments being unwilling to risk their resources on a gamble whose dividends will only manifest after generations means that much of the global south is either agrarian, service-oriented, or in the case of India both agrarian and FIRE-oriented.

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can't have shit with branigs, their whole political view comes from wanting to fuck little kids and giving a bad rep to right ideology

>>2787828
>it DA JOOS for not letting me rape kids
ok first of all epstein was a russian saboteur
secondly the fact you post softcore cp just show how fucking raped you are to the jewish pornographic industry

literally go back, no one wants you on the right,(Nazi)

Marxism is descriptive not prescriptive or proscriptive which would be morality.

>>2787328
meme b8 but for the sake of it

>gommunism is about le industrial labor

It's really not. Marx talked a lot about industries because it was the main source of companies for his time, but his critique is true of any profit-oriented firm-based economy.

>a worker’s revolution was inevitable in the industrialised world due to the contradictions of capitalism

>but the communist revolutions that Marx theorised happened in largely agrarian Russia and China
>So how did his successors try to make sense of it?
Perhaps because it is in war-torn countries with despotic leaders that contradictions are heightened ??? It made sense for Marx at his time to believe that the biggest contradictions would occur in industrialized countries, as it was there that the conditions were most unstable and worst. This did occur in the 19th century.
However, by the 20th century, labor unions, the rise of social policies, and nationalist tensions made the contradictions stand out the most in agrarian countries.

>But none of those account for people’s personal motives nor solve Marx’s deterministic dilemma

Marx's claim is simply that the mode of production of a given society before communism systematically reproduces the conditions which could overthrow it. There's no "deterministic" dilemma, it's simply more rational for workers to adopt communism when it is more rational for them to do so, i.e. when it permits further self-realization within the realm of possibilities.
The "vanguard party" is simply meant to enable those people to do so.
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>>2787330
> The axis of Resistance carries the torch of fighting the global capital.



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i'm a outsider if it wasnt obvious, but did communism ever work and if yes what actual real life example?
>The body was too short or empty.
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Communism has ALWAYS worked, EVERY TIME it has been tried. Communism ALWAYS bring peace and prosperity. EVERONE WHO SAY, "Communism does not work." Is bourgeois or bourgeois labor aristocrat who exploit superprofit from and oppress true working people. They KNOW Communism work. That is why they LIE

>>2787871
what news anon does can be done with an RSS feed tbh. not to shit on comrade news anon

>>2787858
to be fair DPRK does have property ownership enshrined in article 24 of its constitution. I have seen anons here complain that AES nations are proudhonist in practice but I think all people really care about is whether they're better off.

>>2787872
cuba also trains more physicians per capita than any other nation. AES consistently outperforms in metrics like STEM researchers per capita and female college graduates. if their GDP PPP and average income is low, it's because they are low on the imperialist food chain rather than because their system is a failure. they'd be worse off under IMF loan sharking and structural adjustment. Just look at Ukraine.

>>2787884
http://naenara.com.kp/index.php/Main/index/en/politics?arg_val=constitution
>Article 24. Private property is property owned and consumed by individual citizens. Private property is derived from socialist distribution according to work done and from supplementary benefits granted by the State and society. The products of individual sideline activities including those from kitchen gardens, as well as income from other legal economic activities shall also be private property. The State shall protect private property and guarantee by law the right to inherit it.
Bourgeois private property is abolished in Communism. Socialist proletarian private property is sanctified in all Communist proletarian dictatorship. In DPRK, bourgeoisie is eliminated. In Communism, capitalism is eliminated.



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>The Liberal party Patrick Pichette a former Senior VP of Google, say that if Canadians want to leave Canada to work in the US they need to pay an exit tax of half a million dollars.


Now Carney has achieved majority in Parliament. What do we think bros?

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2246142/mark-carney-enters-his-majority-era

>>2782644
Hope you like data centres hiking your electric bill and federal services getting cut due to personnel slashing and tax cuts.

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THE CPC IS HELPING ME FIND MY GUN



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So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?
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>>2786581
skill issue, even if climate panic was real there's multiple way of stopping and reversing desertification

>>2786798
I don't think the climate change negationists who will come into power in around two years will care, and the socdems would have been ineffective at it (as always)

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Magyarbros did he literally just say "Absolute Cinema"?!


>>2786822
they'll be forced face it one way or another, though obviously they won't have the capacity to deal with it in a humane way because we live in nationalist hellworld



 

In your opinion, in a situation of capitalist crisis, can a short-lived alliance exist between Marxist socialism and national (right-wing) socialism, in a Vanguard Party capable of making a radical change in the country's course, or is this a direct path to fascism and the destruction of the achievements of Leninism?(Reactionary)
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>>2787201
So you’ve convinced yourself being mad online and shouting mere vibes matters?

Fantastic thread. Keep it up, /leftypol/.

i support the red-brown alliance, in the end it is a struggle against the forces pushing capitalism

>>2786244
>national (right-wing) socialism
thats called nazism and socialism is only there in the name, not in any way in practice, so any retard proposing this should be shot

>>2787188
the only ragebaiters here are the shityanks that pretend telling people to vote for zionists is not the same as telling people to vote for nazis



 

Honest question (NOT trolling):

What exactly should the western left do for Palestine that they haven’t already been doing for the past 2.5 years (or even longer for that matter)?

I’ve seen Palestinian activists say “we need to do more to stop the genocide” more times than I can count. But what should we feasibly be doing that we’re not doing already? Boycotts? Mass protests? Blockading arms sales? Policing your peers’ consumer habits so they’re compliant with BDS? Making lists of politicians who receive money from AIPAC and voting them out? We’ve done this already. In NYC, there was a mass protest every fucking weekend where we were told to “escalate for Gaza” yet we never escalated; I don’t even fucking know what “escalate” is supposed to mean. Were we supposed to be engaging in violent riots and molotoving the banks or whatever?

I asked this to a comrade of mine and he said: “You know what we mean when we want the left to do more for Palestine.” By that, he clearly means engage in political violence, bring back the Weathermen. But how would ultra-left adventurism do anything? Elias Rodriguez did exactly this and is now facing life in prison for killing two interns who were replaced the next day. What a fucking waste.

The American left is way too weak, disorganized, and incompetent to do anything meaningful to help the Palestinians resist or stop Israel. It’s gotten to the point where people are putting all their hope and faith in the idea Israel will collapse on its own because they’ve run out of strategies. So what should the left be doing that it’s not doing already? Give clear examples.
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Leftists should stop focusing on Palestine and focus on Black issues instead.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXVBw-bAGLQ/

Palestine will never be liberated by a racist America.

>>2787218
black american pig-dogs will get the nuke as well


>>2787218
The gaslighting in this video is off the fucking charts.

>>2787218
Liberal-on-liberal violence



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Rosa Parks, was a descent of Red Owen and Rosa O'Neil; raped by a Persian, Shane, claiming the blood, out of his falsehood's father of bigemy and homosexual lust of children, Constantine O'Neil; "Conn. O'Neil", as the battle lines have been laid.

Rosa Parks, is our descent in Afro-American skin; rejected the term "Nubian", as "nigrish", all of Boston our city witnessing; the Canaanites, against Jews, the Israelites and Jordanians; the Jews as Israelite, deported to Iran.

Rosa Parks, the spraying of hoses on striking marchers for being Beta Israeli, the African-Iranians, claiming our blood, Nubian, the Pharaoh; mixed with Ptolemy, of Cicero; Queen Samhain, the Iberian Celts and Roman Senators, dictated as a Clan by fascists of all skin colors and clans.

Universally disturbed, to place us in hospitals, per suits against those considering opiates imbibement to be less able; the Jews, those threshed and destroyed in common worker's abyss, with children as bisexual; actors and actresses and glee; faggots, our prison punks to bust up the butt and make bleed through the anus, in utter pain per bowel pass.



 

VTuber Camila was featured on X by RT news when she described 160 bombs being dropped on Beirut in 10 minutes. In other news, Null from Kiwi Farms is laughing about it.
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>>2787085
Your inability to understand how entertainers can become attached to their audience and crave their support when they're feeling distress is a you problem.

When will the internet meta of calling whatever you dislike pedophilic finally die

>>2787091
>Your inability to understand how entertainers can become attached to their audience and crave their support when they're feeling distress is a you problem.

I understand this perfectly. It's you who doesn't understand that this is a problem and dystopian as fuck, you parasocial liberaloid.

>>2787232
NTA but it sounds like you keep moving the goalposts.
  • I agree that there is a mutual parasociality that might be unhealthy here.
  • The notion in >>2787085 that it's about monetizing foremost seems like liberal moralism. She was explaining why she was upset yet chose to clock into work anyway, because it would be odd not to.

Moved to >>>/anime/30080.



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