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Living in an housing complex with 20 people and 2 showers, a sense of control is needed, if there was 30 showers, there would be no control needed.

Abundance and public ownership would create less of a need for police. I get that, but really I can't see the abolition of police because some guy will get always get drunk and do stupid shit
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>people will be hecking gooderino if we give them more stuff

Naive as fuck

police is the only thing I agree with MLoids with


Citizen militias brutalize and kill people just like cops do. The CHAZ disaster comes to mind.

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>muh cops
Cops are just the enforcers of the ruling class, if the ruling class is the bourgeoisie they represent their interests against ours, if the ruling class is the proletariat they'll represent our interests, being concerned about the police as an essentially negative thing is libshit. The American police force is particularly bad and militarized however, being something like the third or fourth largest army in the world



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What's some genuine extremists or ultra radical leftist opinions that you think are too radical even for you? I'm genuine curious to know some extremists position.
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>>2578290
mentioning islam but saying nothing bout yiddaism… well well well moshe ben yitzhak lets bomb some kids shall we? when hearing criticism on abrahamic religions without mentioning yidds always assume its a yidd. im denouncing the hadith now go ahead and denounce the talmud

Real communism has never been tried except one time in Russia where it was based but then became cringe.

>le radical
>opinions
Unashamed larper thread.

>>2578457
>communism
>tried
is it a state of affairs to be established or something?

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>>2578454
>>2578290
as expectred the bastard son of abraham is unable to denounce his beloved child rape talmud, either denounce all abrahamic religions or stfu, disgusting child killer apologetic.
picrel was chief rabbi of israel who also called blacks monkeys btw



 

He is correct as far as I know. Can any of you actually prove why you think he is wrong?

The body was too short or empty. The body was too short or empty.

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>>2578481
>Abloo bloo Yitzhak Rabin and Ben Gurion blew up the Atlalena and murdered Jooooooos
Cope

Rav Kook is better.

He is who created and popularized the term never again. It's a fascist slogan

Name looks like Mein Kampf. I have no further opinion.

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>>2578481
not listening to fasco yidd ramblings for an hour fuck you fuck all zionists i hope you hang yourself and your neck doesnt break so you suffocate until you die, these cunts are so evil even the israeli government designated them terrorist lmfao



 

Socialism and communism are not modes of production, they're social orders. The mode of production is capitalism and the next mode of production will be full automation in the transition from semi-automation by the fourth industrial revolution. The feuds and the slave owners and the previous modes of production never did the change consciously and neither did the bourgeois when they brought capitalism, they simply developed as much as they could until they changed, they were not a 200 year movement of trying to consciously enact change, think social darwinism.
Anyway the USSR is the loser and ML failed, Dengism won, when the realpolitik geopolitics and all the blablabla is over and China has won the world it will lead towards full automation.
And you only say full automation is impossible because you misinterpret it, you're like those conservative crackers that say communism isnt possible or its utopian, well too bad you're gonna get fucked in the ass one way or another, sucks for you you wont get to live to see that I'm right.
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>>2530240
Aka why you have to get to socialism first, no? The entire reason I sell ML and AI work is because ML and AI are now the means of production to seize. Before it, at porky command, kills us all.

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>>2530021
Next mode of production will have planned economy done by AI but property rights (and thus social classes) will still exist.

>>2530165
AYN RAND communism aka dangist

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>>2530043
fucking retard that's not how it works kill yourself



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Anwar Shaikh - Historical Foundations of Political Economy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTMFx0t8kDzc72vtNWeTP05x6WYiDgEx7
Anwar Shaikh - Capitalism: Competition, Conflict and Crises
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go
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>>2578185
so, is this you explaining the difference between value ratios and exchange value ratios, then? or have you given up on that?

>>2578185
>>2578236
read this carefully:
<the common substance that manifests itself in the exchange value of commodities, whenever they are exchanged, is their value. The progress of our investigation will show that exchange value is the only form in which the value of commodities can manifest itself or be expressed […] When, at the beginning of this chapter, we said, in common parlance, that a commodity is both a use value and an exchange value, we were, accurately speaking, wrong. A commodity is a use value or object of utility, and a value. It manifests itself as this two-fold thing, that it is, as soon as its value assumes an independent form – viz., the form of exchange value. It never assumes this form when isolated, but only when placed in a value or exchange relation with another commodity of a different kind. When once we know this, such a mode of expression does no harm; it simply serves as an abbreviation.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
so exchange-value is the only mode of expression for the value of commodities. value cannot be expressed outside of this quantitative relationship to marx, which may be represented as a ratio between commodities:
<the ratio of the value of silver to that of gold…
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch03.htm
again, this is all entirely uncontroversial to most.

>>2578085
>How many times does Smith Anon have to read this?
He doesn't read he only lies.

>>2578738
lies about what? 🤔

>>2578085
>>2578738
here are some more resources to help your confusion:
<The prices which obtain as the average of the various rates of profit in the different spheres of production added to the cost-prices of the different spheres of production, constitute the prices of production […] And in the same way the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society — the totality of all branches of production — is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
so, the average price is still reflective of the value given in production, the same as in pre-capitalist relations, and in fact, the total average is equal to the total value. so as marx says, total value = total price, which if you measure as exchange-value, comes to the same conclusion: [Ax = By]. hope this helps. 🙂



 

I was born into a whole lot of dominant groups in my society (95+% anglo suburb, never met an open queer person until 18yo, you get the picture).

Being in the intersection of socially-dominant groups, I suspect this affects the range of mainstream in-group politics, since there are plenty of people who want to conserve dominance, and since there is more social power there for propagandists to prey on.

Consider the White family Thanksgiving stereotype, with the racist unkkkle, the progressive/socialist niece, and everything in-between.
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In minority groups, whether it be race, gender/sex, disability, certain jobs, religion, etc., is there more uniformity of politics? Or is it still common to see people spread out across progressive and reactionary positions?
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>>2576234
>is there more uniformity of politics? Or is it still common to see people spread out across progressive and reactionary positions?

More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.

>>2576234
most social minorities are "left" wing relatively speaking because they know they will be on the wrong end of the gun when it boils down to it, but there are exceptions like black men who turn right wing for anti feminist reasons or minorities who are religiously anti LGBT, or certain minorities who (kinda falsely) think they are assimilated into whiteness like high caste indians who think they can bond with upper middle class anglo christians based on being in the same socio economic circles (usually professional IT/medicine jobs which gives them access to high end suburbs) and think they can bond on shared anti islam/muslim sentiments (EX: the Saajar Entjeti / Kash Patel stereotype of the right winged Indian-american).

>>2578490
>More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.
Go on…

>>2578499
yo i aint even clicking that why do you save this crap?

>>2578512
That videos not that bad. It's probably racist or misogynist but she's pretty and has one of my favorite body types so therefore it's good

>>2578526
pack it up goonerblud



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I think that Mao the best communist leader of all time because of for the love of his country I bring the rule area in modern area together cultural revolution was based as fuck
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>>2576982
Mao didn't say to struggle violently though, they just did that

>>2577000
>call for a violent revolution
<no he didnt mean it like this
Mistakes were made millions are dead.

>>2577000
So the cultural revolution was a failure? If Mao created a movement that he could not control or discipline that spiralled out of control and began to do more bad than good to China then it was a failure.

>>2576964
>muh ultras
Great leap forward was voluntarist just like corn mans retardation, okay?

>>2578634
Even corn man's corn stupidity wasn't as disastrous as ignoring basic metallurgy, construction and agricultural methods. The USSR which was provably successful at manufacturing and farming warned Mao but he believed in magic peasants instead.



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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Guinea status?

>>2574325
I wonder why the drug traffickers didn't choose equatorial guinea instead? It's a Spanish speaking African country and I'm assuming the drug trafficking organizations are largely from Latin America. Or maybe they're there already and I just don't know?

The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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The kidnap gangs, jihadists and separatists wreaking havoc in Nigeria

Nigeria is currently grappling with a spate of mass abductions. But the vast country - bigger than France and Germany combined - also faces many other security challenges.

Recent attempts by US President Donald Trump and his supporters to frame the insecurity purely as the persecution of Christians overlooks the complexity of Africa's most-populous nation.

There are more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, which is roughly divided into a mainly Muslim north, a largely Christian south, with intermingling in the middle - and the government says people of all faiths have been victims of attacks.

There are criminal gangs in the north-west, an Islamist insurgency in the north-east, clashes over land in central regions and separatist unrest in the south-east - leaving the 400,000-strong army and the police force of 370,000 officers overstretched.

Here's a breakdown of the main armed groups and flashpoints:

Bandits' - kidnap gangs

These criminal gangs, known locally as "bandits", are largely composed of people from the Fulani ethnic group, who traditionally make their living by raising animals. They have traded their pastoral tools for assault rifles, which have flooded Nigeria - and other states in the region - since Libya descended into anarchy following the overthrow in 2011 of long-time strongman Muammar Gadaffi by Nato-backed forces.
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china has wuxia, cdramas, xianxia, etc. cultural markers, does africa have anything remotely similar?



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Zarah Sultana Boycotts Your Party Conference Over Member Expulsions
Your Party’s founding conference began in Liverpool today, with Jeremy Corbyn calling for unity among warring factions in the party – shortly before co-founder Zarah Sultana announced she would be boycotting all of the day’s events. Sultana’s refusal to set foot inside the conference hall was to protest a wave of last minute expulsions, with Socialist Workers party national secretary Lewis Nielsen claiming that he and several other members had received letters cancelling their memberships on Friday. He was already on a train to Liverpool at the time, he said.
https://novaramedia.com/2025/11/29/zarah-sultana-boycotts-your-party-conference-over-member-expulsions/

Unions and left MPs slam government for cutting day one protections from unfair dismissal into the Employment Rights Bill
Ministers have axed the proposal to cut the “qualifying period” for workers to make an unfair dismissal claim from 24 months to the first day in a new job. They intend to introduce the right after six months of service instead, while other day-one rights to parental leave and sick pay are still set to go ahead, coming into effect in April 2026.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/complete-betrayal

Germany’s far-right AfD forms new youth wing in attempt to revamp extremist image
It was in a bowling alley beside a parking lot in a small eastern German town that the designated youth-wing leader of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) laid out a simple vision for the party’s march to power: recruit and professionalize the young acolytes.
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-far-right-afd-new-youth-wing-germany/
https://archive.ph/usDtV

Tens of thousands march across Europe in show of support for Palestinians
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>>2578349
>He said some leaders still have not let go of their ego
Rich coming from the guy who claimed his "path" was a universal advancement of Maoism.

Who is Zarah Sultana and what's the deal with Your Party

US Progressives Warn Trump Against Interference in Honduras Election
The US Congressional Progressive Caucus on Friday accused President Donald Trump of “flagrantly interfering” in Honduras’ upcoming presidential election after Trump announced his endorsement of right-wing candidate Nasry “Tito” Asfura and repeated threats he’s made previously ahead of other electoral contests in which he sought to secure a conservative win.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-honduras

FDA claims Covid shots killed 10 children and vows new vaccine rules
The memo, sent Friday, did not include the children’s ages or medical histories, timelines or documentation for the deaths he references and does not identify the manufacturer of the vaccine. The FDA’s findings have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-covid-vaccines-children-deaths-rcna246437

Pete Hegseth denies he gave orders to ‘kill everybody’ on alleged ‘narco-boat’
The remarks came after a Washington Post report this week alleged that Hegseth ordered defense officials to “kill everybody” traveling on a boat that was being surveilled by analysts on 2 September, the first strike of many carried out in recent months by the Trump administration. The White House said – without proof – that the people in the boats in the Caribbean, killed in Pentagon operations, were drug smugglers.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/29/pete-hegseth-denies-ordering-deaths-narco-boat

Northwestern to pay $75 million in deal with Trump administration to restore federal funding
Under the agreement announced Friday night, Northwestern will make the payment to the U.S. Treasury over the next three years. Among other commitments it also requires the university to revoke the so-called Deering Meadow agreement, which it signed in April 2024 in exchange for pro-Palestinian protesters ending their tent encampment on campus.
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PFLP Calls for Mass Popular Action in Global Cities for Gaza
Restoring this momentum is an urgent necessity to pressure for a halt to the aggressions and violations, for the occupation to fully implement the agreement, for the crossings to be opened unconditionally, and for the flow of humanitarian aid into the sector amidst the escalating catastrophe. We call for a unified global day of solidarity that constitutes a new push for organized popular action and brings the cause back to the forefront of international attention. The importance of restoring the luster of this global movement is highlighted by the unchanging reality and the worsening humanitarian tragedy in Gaza. We affirm that the cause is passing through an extremely dangerous stage with continued breaches, escalating violations in the West Bank and Jerusalem, the suffering of the prisoners, and the collapse of living conditions in the sector.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/24343/

COP30 Isn’t a Failure — It’s a Farce
As the COP30 climate summit comes to a close here in Belém, in the Brazilian state of Pará, conference organizers have little to show after two weeks of highly publicized talks. This is bad for everyone. The United Nations Climate Change Conference desperately needed to restore its reputation. After all, last year’s COP29 took place in Azerbaijan, where fossil fuels make up 90% of the exports and where the government was being accused of carrying out genocide in the months leading up to the conference. The previous year, the COP28 was held in Dubai, capital of another petrostate. This year, the marketing strategy for the climate conference began with a mea culpa for the historic exclusion of Indigenous peoples. A UN press release announcing the findings of a recent report on Indigenous peoples and the climate crisis put it this way: ​“From green energy projects imposed without consent to policy decisions made in rooms where Indigenous voices are absent, these communities are too often excluded from climate solutions, displaced by them, and denied the resources to lead the way.” To address this, Brazil’s Ministry of Indigenous Peoples (MPI) invited 360 Indigenous leaders to participate in negotiations inside the COP, after a six-month process in which events were held with 80 Indigenous peoples whose territories aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

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I know, it's reddit slop, but can't help laughing.

>>2574299
IMAGINE

A DYSTOPIAN FUTURE IN WHICH ANTHONY ALBINOSE

BECOMES

PRIME MINISTAH

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>>2574299
god i want her to origami my cock

>>2552699
The west should be collectively grateful that Lukashenko is only in charge of Belarus. If that Union State proposal went through back in the 90s with him as president we would be living in a very different timeline right now.

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The Eureka Initiative is an American Communist Party (Haz cult) associate.
Probably deeper connections, I just haven't dug any further because I don't see the point.

Some basic evidence:
1) Their official subreddit /r/RedAustralia has an American Communist Party member as a moderator (/r/FamousPlan101). pic1rel

2)
a) Their official website, lists the Eureka Collective twitter account as a friend
b) Their official reddit account talks about the relationship of the EC to the EI. pic2rel. While the EI account correctly points out that one account on twitter generally doesn't represent a community (see also: /leftypol/ twitter account), this account is listed as a friend.
c) pic3rel

3) An /r/AustralianSocialism member alleges Eureka Initiative members initially met through "MAGA Communism" Disc­οrd.gov servers.

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