/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2792212
thoughts on Giovani Palestinesi d’Italia ??

are they campists or aristocrats?

>>2792555
>They didn't have their stomachs ripped open and their unborn children crushed underfoot.

if only someone had ripped your mother's "stomach" open and crushed you underfoot we wouldn't be reading this drivel

if you really want to be a part of some kind of leftist revolution you're going to have to figure out how to achieve permanent ego death and deprogram your brain of all the sexist, racist, classist, ableist, etc. nonsense that the capitalist system has instilled into you, otherwise you're just going to be a confused weak poseur and you will only get in the way.

>>2792555
>>2793994
the question is not of who's oppressed or ideological programming

>>2787199
>A death bourg is always a good thing, unless you are a fucking classcuck
Had the developing Turkish bourgeoisie been defeated in the 1920s, would that have been good or bad? What about the French bourgeoisie during 1789? What about the Chinese national bourgeoisie during the 1930s? Would their defeat had been a good or bad thing?

>>2786991
>legitimizing the Israeli destruction of all of Iranian society, including its bourgeoisie.
Total war fantasy that's not gonna happen

>>2794041
>Not even "reverse-engineered" tho,you could have the thing rewrite it entirely from scratch

well what i mean by reverse-engineered is stuff that hasn't been fully disclosed to the public, proprietary products where the source code and production processes and other trade secrets are kept under lock and key, AI will allow people to look at the public-facing side of it and cross reference everything through its vast library of training data and test every conceivable solution and work out the missing pieces of the puzzle with inhuman speed. as much as AI's capabilities are grossly overhyped by big tech evangelists, unraveling and reconstructing extant human creativity through mindless brute force is one thing it is actually quite good at and it will probably keep getting better at it as the training data grows larger and larger.

The ai bubble is not bursting, this is one of the most progressive technologies ever. This is a machine that costs less than $5000 that automates skilled digital labor all day and night. A major part of the class distinction in modernity was the ability to command skilled digital labor, which is why over the last 26 years everyone has been scrambling to do computer (unsuccessfully for the most part.)

>>2794041
There's plenty of vintage LLMs. They even have anime wifus for them now…

>>2754063
>openAI or anthropic, but you can also go to deepseek or moonshot
what chips do you think all these run on?

>>2794056
people's ai compute made by aes huawei

It's very obvious that people who shill AI on this site just like using it to generate slop and let it think for themselves, and then they try to ideologically justify it after the fact. None of it comes across as genuine - especially those who try to double down and act like AI will advance communism.

>>2792898
yes

>>2792898
It depends on what you mean.

Jesus preached an apocalyptic gospel of rectification upon the earth, where the meek and poor shall inherit a kingdom, where the last shall be first. He says that a rich man shall not enter heaven, for worldly riches are opposed to heavenly riches, where reward is given for thankless deeds rather than prideful displays of virtue.

He said that one ought to not simply love their neighbour, but also to love their enemy; to give one's cloak to the thief, and to turn the other cheek. Upon unrighteousness, it is seen that sinners ought to be forgiven and not punished, for they "know not what they do". The criminal should not be executed, for only he that has not sinned has right to cast the first stone.

On money, it is seen that the love of mammon is the root of all evil, and that the rich should sell all their possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. On family, Christ claims that one must love God more than his earthly father, elsewise he will be left behind. Tradition is expelled by the New Covenant, as the old vine dies off and a new one is attached. And finally, one should not fear death, for in Christ is the Resurrection.

The sublime cannot be wholly politicised, only aestheticised.

Has anybody go through Anark's or Daniel Baryon's work? I'm thinking about reading A Modern Anarchism in a book club and I was wondering if anyone has any critiques that I should be aware of. Is it a good starter text?

>>2793004

all the early prophets were just the social struggles against empire and division in ancient forms

Do people in Iran enjoy Islam or do they want to get rid of it?

>>2793972
> I could understand this if and only if people were literally systematically dying. Please don't be mean to me - I have spent most of my life in a bourgeois echo chamber.
Here's a good start.

>>2793972
>Why do so many people want to kill people like me?
You might be surprised by this, but the goal of Communism is to abolish class society, through any means necessary, not simply kill the bourgeoisie. If it were possible to abolish classes without violence, the Communists would take that option, but because the bourgeoisie defend their class interests through murder, it becomes self defense for the proletariat to wage class war against the bourgeoisie.

Stalin:
>Marx in his day (the seventies of the nineteenth century) made an exception in the case of Britain, and probably also of America, where militarism and bureaucracy were little developed at that time, and where at that time there was a possibility of achieving the political rule of the proletariat by other means, “peaceful” means. I said that this exception, or reservation, made by Marx in the case of Britain and America was correct at the time, but, in Lenin’s opinion, has become incorrect and superfluous in the present conditions of developed imperialism, when militarism and bureaucracy are flourishing in Britain and America in the same way as in other countries.

>Permit me, comrades, to turn to Marx. Here is what he wrote in his letter to Kugelmann in April 1871:

Marx quoted by Stalin:

>“. . . If you look at the last chapter of my Eighteenth Brumaire, you will find that I say that the next attempt of the French revolution will be no longer, as before, to transfer the bureaucratic-military machine from one hand to another, but to smash it . . . , and this is the preliminary condition for every real people’s revolution on the continent.* And this is what our heroic party comrades in Paris are attempting.”

Back To Stalin:

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

The promise of capitalism as opportunity for everyone does not materialize. Normal people live and die having to submit to the orders of modern day aristocrats or their representatives. Education is no longer a guaranteed ticket into the middle class. Saving money in the hopes of becoming your own boss grows less realistic as barriers of entry to business rise while wages stagnate for decades despite productivity growth.
In short, mass desperation and palpable inequality which (social) democracy failed to keep in check.
Now consider that this is actually many people's life, when you're actually hungry or at risk you will have a very strong emotional response that makes you easy to radicalize. We're not quite "there" yet and most people are still reasonable but this will get worse with conditions.
See, if you haven't: wtfhappenedin1971.com
As a bonus, read Kropotkin, the de facto father of my flag. He was also someone born into money but switched sides.

Black people are also Americans, anon…

>>2794015
That link no longer works but I remember that image and I remember it working at some point.

>>2794022
it works fine, you're bad at typing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoQ5uLK4fI

>>2794023
Oh true, thank you.

>>2794015
They were already running ads like vidrel for asbestos before and after 9/11, the market was already prepared to make a profit off of asbestos victims

>>2794001
no one cares about your shitty russian puppet

>>2794004
I wonder if you bots are coded to respond to every post someone makes? Maybe if I reply 100 times you'll sing ode to joy as a reward? The EU is retarded enough to do that im certain.

>>2794004
chinese; mali government tries to tie itself to chinese investment
chinese try to secure mining rights for mostly gold but also rare earth without having to resort to criminals like in ghana
russians work for chinese, they've no agency of their own

>>2794006
you can think i'm a bot if that makes you feel better at night, but last time i checked i'm a real guy who breathes oxygen with real feelings
>>2794007
either way they're a puppet state that has a high likelyhood to fall to pieces

>>2794010
they're not a puppet state and they've been in a state of disarray most of the time since the 60s

>>2793572
it's not "bullshit" it serves a purpose: protecting the ruling class.
>>2793574
>vaguepost king quotes nobody and responds to no args

>>2793575

meaning != purpose. meaning is the "why", the rationale and intellectual significance of the idea, purpose is the "what", the actionable goals of the idea.

the idea of intellectual property has always had plenty of purposes, but in my opinion it never really had any meaning, any rational basis - the idea that information can be a form of privately owned property has always been bullshit, a nonsensical and unrealistic idea.

the only reason we were able to treat information as property is because of technological limitations that made information difficult to encode/copy/modify/transmit/etc., but as i described, these technological limitations do not last. intellectual property makes unrealistic demands of reality and reality is refusing to accommodate them. that is why it is bullshit.

>>2793606
> but in my opinion it never really had any meaning, any rational basis
for the ruling class, protecting their own class position is a perfectly rational basis, even if the tools they used to do that appear irrational to everyone but themselves

>>2793692

well if we are going to preserve our sanity and live in rational objective reality we have to refrain from internalizing the irrationality and solipsism of the ruling class, even doing it inadvertantly through careless use of language

>>2793575
and is merely a debate addict

>>2793537
the
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>>2793170
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>>2793273
KWAB

>>2793233
We need more Leninist mushroom growers and Juche Fent distributors for Total Schizo Victory

>>2793233
The new "wide awakes" are ugly retarded idpol-ridden faggots though, the classic wide awakes were stylish, classy, well-mannered and principled.

>>2792910
Look in the mirror cockroach, you'll find the perfect target

Fine i'll read it.

RCI won btw

>>2793750
that makes fascism an ancient concept since art has existed for as long as we know
but your statement is simply not true, you just hate nice things because you're a disguising faggot with no skills

>>2793754
is conlanging fascistic too?

>thread immediately devolved into circlejerk of b8ers
why did i ever use this website
fuckin' SAGE

>>2793763
sorry. i will read first and maybe second of your links tomorrow.
but maybe you should elaborate your post a bit more if you want people to engage with it. what do you want us to do after we read it? to comment it? what exactly? what is your opinion? et caetera…

>>2760901
The deep state are the ones who elect the judges however.

>>2761749
the right has always been a sham
from around 1649-1789, it was primarily concerned with the interests of the aristocracy and arbitrarily conserving power. it had no intellectual theory of its own, while the left completely dominated all relevant areas of culture and politics. after 1789, the right was complacent with regulating the aristocracy politically, but also regulating trade to benefit them economically, such as with the corn laws of england, 1815-46 (enacted under the tories) which artificially rose prices so that british landlords could derive greater profits from their sale. Marx also speaks on how the Acts of Union (1801) with Ireland was a conspiracy to create a landed aristocracy in ireland and mass immigration into England (causing immense competition amongst labourers, as Engels notes in 1848 and Marx speaks on in 1869). This Act was also issued by the Tories. The right then in this era, were not at all loyal to the common man, and never have been. After 1900, you get the Labour Party, the first socialist party in Britain, and so the Tories (now conservatives) make these their main enemy. In 1926, there was a general strike in protest of mining companies attempting to lower wages; the resolve of the Conservative government was simply to make general strikes illegal. This led to the election of Ramsay Macdonald, the first labour PM, from 1929-35. After WW2 we get the celebrated welfare state due to the work of Clement Attlee (who also opposed the EEC, or EU, while conservatives promoted inclusion and eventually put the UK in the EU). During the 60s and 70s we get the "new right" in continental europe and the anglosphere. In the anglosphere it is about free market economics, with reactionary cultural values (now, as it will be clear, liberal values come from liberal economics, so it is already a paradox). At the same time, "free market" just means selling public assets off to the highest bidder and exporting national industry to foreigners, creating mass unemployment and dependence on the state (the descent of places in the US like Detroit are entirely synonymous with the exportation of industry, creating welfare slaves who fall into crime - this evidently stains not only racial underclasses but also deindustrialised regions in general). This period (often termed "neoliberalism") passes from around 1979-1989 with Reagan and ThatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2616361
I support Elon Musk getting shot in an alleyway like that bank cuck Luigi shot
Even though frankly that's too good for him. He needs Epstein levels of shit done to his stupid ass, a broken bone for every banned Twitter account when he to this day says he's all about free speech. I'm not even mad about the twitter accounts themselves, but the lack of efficiency where when he bought twitter, he could have for a fraction of it sued tech companies and completely rewritten the law code and held websites more liable in practice. Like this shit hole has mods, and with all the CP posts on Siberia, guess whose liable? But isn't it funny how rebellious youths and feds can post child porn on some backwoods image board with like 200 people, but can't on Twitter or reddit.

Pic semi related as wrong killer but they're all based

>>2771694
I think you'd want the institutes of Justinian or something similar.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5983/5983-h/5983-h.htm

>>2771766
That's the one.