/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2722193
look at some of the old popes you dont think they did similar things withe the page boys?

>>2723426
No.

>>2722193
The most popular prostitutes in the Roman Empire were castrated boys, the early-modern period was chock full of aristocrats having little boys as "servants". So no I don't think so.

>>2724507
The reason for this is because pedophilia ultimately is an expression of the reactionary desire to halt the dialectic of nature in its tracks. The unfolding of natural development is terrifying to the parasitic classes. They become reactionaries in order to stop all historic development, and in this see development as inherently evil. Thus they see the development of the female body as evil as well, as human bodily growth is a manifestation of the dialectic of history. Economic parasitism creates a hatred of the dialectic, and that hatred is the basis of pedophilia.

>>2724481
Why not? Men also have penises and they can cum just fine

europe finally getting hypersonic tech (although the missiles are still quite a distance away)

https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/11/is-europes-just-tested-hypersonic-missile-the-answer-to-russias-oreshnik

DOJ running quiet operation in Miami to hunt for charges on Cuban leaders, per sources
A Justice Department-led effort to seek to prosecute leaders of the communist nation on the nation’s southern flank has been ongoing since mid-February, which could help propel a change in Cuba’s leadership, the people told MS NOW. The U.S. attorney in Miami, Jason Reding Quinones, created the multi-agency working group, emphasizing internally that it had an urgent goal: find and pursue leaders of the Cuban government or Communist Party for prosecutable violations of federal law.
https://www.ms.now/news/doj-running-quiet-operation-in-miami-to-hunt-for-charges-on-cuban-leaders-per-sources
https://archive.ph/YJOYo

Trump to forge ahead with immigration crackdown driven by top aide Stephen Miller
the White House deputy chief of staff and the architect of Trump’s immigration agenda - retains control of the issue, three U.S. officials said. And Trump’s pick to become homeland secretary, U.S. Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma, is viewed as closely aligned with Trump’s approach. “Stephen is a survivor,” one of the officials said, requesting anonymity to discuss internal dynamics. The official said Noem’s firing was not a referendum on Trump's restrictive ​agenda, but rather on the execution of it.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-forge-ahead-with-immigration-crackdown-driven-by-top-aide-stephen-miller-2026-03-06/

The Government Uses Targeted Advertising to Track Your Location. Here
a new report gives us direct evidence that Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has used location data taken from the internet advertising ecosystem to track phones. In a document uncovered by 404 Media, CBP admits what we’ve been saying for years: The technical systems powering creepy targeted ads also allow federal agencies to track your location.
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Women, capitalism, and the struggle against oppression – A Marxist critique of Silvia Federici
The communist movement has a proud legacy when it comes to fighting oppression, linking this struggle to the fight against class society itself. This is the tradition that International Working Women’s Day was based on, when it was first proposed in 1910. The Marxist position on oppression is often attacked, however. One of those who slams Marxism is Silvia Federici. This article deals with the main points raised by Federici about women and the role they play in the family under capitalism, and defends the true revolutionary legacy of Marxism and its position on women.
https://communist.red/women-capitalism-and-the-struggle-against-oppression-a-marxist-critique-of-silvia-federici/

School Strike in Germany: 50,000 Against Military Service
At 11:00 am, teenagers started flooding Potsdamer Platz. They came from schools around the city, marching in groups of 50 or 100, waving banners and banging drums. “Not one person and not one penny for the Bundeswehr,” they chanted. “I don’t want to die for a country that doesn’t offer me anything,” said Karl, 18, a student at Evangelische Schule Berlin Zentrum in Mitte. “They talk about protecting us while cutting funding for education and culture.” On January 1, Germany’s military began sending out questionnaires to people born in 2008 as they turn 18 this year. Young men are required to fill out the form; it’s voluntary for women. After that, men may be asked to submit to a physical exam. It’s a soft launch for reintroducing conscription, which was paused indefinitely in 2011. Now, claiming that a Russian attack could be imminent, the government wants to expand the Bundeswehr from 184,000 to 270,000 active soldiers in less than a decade.
https://www.leftvoice.org/school-strike-in-germany-50000-against-military-service/

Netanyahu’s Iran War Is Also the War of Global Neocon Elites
On the second day of the US-Israeli war of aggression against Iran, US secretary of state Marco Rubio indicated that the decision to go to war waPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thank you based news Anon

Houthis continue being the real MVPs

>>2722586
anti-zionism without a left is a pointless strategy because america will not give up israel unless it gives up capitalism or finds another israel

>>2722273
I think the global division of labor is more complicated but this is basically it. IMO the warrior caste can temporarily slip their leash and sometimes in a case of Bonapartism though. Israel is the USA's wild dog.

>>2724631
we don't need your permission, leftoid

>>2721798
>Kennedy Posting
>Not even respected

What the fuck

>>2724689
neh

new bread >>2724715

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>>2724607
what are you critical of? what would you have them do? chant is pretty good imo

>>2724721
A deeper badass voice

>>2724680
its wierd because there appeares to be a total media blackout, which makes me lean towards it being a hezbollah vs IDF special ops. maybe they came into dahieh via helicopter along with all the other raids tonight to go through all the ruins of the command bunkers to collect electronics and intelligence, but then got ambushed.

>>2723511
>>bringing up memes that are old enough to vote
ORLY?

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>>2723511
I shaggy scooby doo

>>2723378
Are you retarded?

>>2723297
Banger

recent happenings in iran?

>>2715065
>If Cucktin was POTUS, there would have already been 200,000 US casualties in Venezuela and instead of dozens of top IR assassinations, he would be meeting the Ayatollah and talk about the "Spirit of Tehran" or something.
trvthnvke…

I wonder how those libs that thought the world was getting better feel now.
Looking at you steven pinker

>>2710932
>muh nation
*sharts*
>>2712677
The only leftists to support the Iraq war are the ML party of Iraq and Iran's Islamists

The Iraqi Communist Party was actually expelled from many international orgs but they're back to being wholesome 100 campists now

>>2714455
>Capital

You mean "Capital" as in Marx's book, or capital as in financial assets?

>>2722101
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NATURALMOTION ENDORPHIN??? I WAS ON THERE BACK IN THE 00S. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES???

>>2722314
i will say it's a fucking shame they discontinued that excellent software.

>>2722314
>WHAT ARE THE CHANCES???
Well consider that a lot of the endorphin wrestling videos were made by 420Chan /wooo/ users. 420Chan was the biggest site for wrestling discussion.

>>2722398
i was never on 420chan. but i knew ironman2pto and darkmatter who moderated the endorphin forums. ironman2pto was named christian fagg IRL and he sadly drowned on vacation with his family

>You cannot combat globalism with chauvinism, seclusion, nationalism.
true,but with a nuke you can

>>2721446
The context is still way too different. China was a semi-feudal backwards agrarian state. The same was true for the revolution in Russia.

Successful socialist resolutions have only happened so far under these conditions because the bourgeoise were weak or close to non-existent and state institutions were fragile or in crisis. By contrast, in advanced capitalist democracies, bourgeois class power is deeply entrenched: economically, institutionally, and ideologically. There's basically a material tipping point. Before that tipping point, countries are able to establish proto socialist revolutions because capitalist power and liberal institutions haven't become too entrenched.

By the way, the Cuban Revolution led by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara largely did not receive Soviet support before victory. Same with Nicaragua and Angola. If they did, the support was very minimal. And there was obviously no other communist power sponsoring the Russian revolution.

Also, the Chinese communist movement grew large as it did because the Allies in the west betrayed them during WW1. This led to a cultural and political movement called the May Fourth movement and a turn towards Soviet Russia. It was also mainly the innovation in Mao Zedong Thought about mass mobilizing peasants and the people's protracted war that made their movement successful. Not to mention, the Soviets supported the anti-communist KMT as well and helped build military academy at Whampoa Military Academy, where officers like Chiang Kai-shek trained. The Soviet Union tried to grow a communist moment inside it but this collapsed after the Shanghai Massacre in 1927, when Chiang purged the communists. And then during the Second Sino-Japanese War, the USSR mainly supported the Chinese Nationalist government under Chiang. The CPC received very little direct aid during this period.

>>2722725
>By the way, the Cuban Revolution led by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara largely did not receive Soviet support before victory
The Batista-era Cuban Armed forces were basically an extended police force rather than a true army. That was/is the case for many post-colonial militaries and something people willfully forget is that when Che and other guerrillas tried to apply foco doctrine in other Latin American countries that had semi-decent militaries, it ended up failing miserably.
>The Soviets supported the anti-communist KMT as well and helped build military academy at Whampoa Military Academy, where officers like Chiang Kai-shek trained. The Soviet Union tried to grow a communist moment inside it but this collapsed after the Shanghai Massacre in 1927, when Chiang purged the communists.
But that literally happened. The Communists only gained real relevance when they were part of the KMT. It became the main nexus and meeting point for most Chinese communists, in 1921 the party had only about 60 members in all of China.

>>2722413
They'll start some time after they reach basic socialist modernization

>>2678317
Obviously the masses won't overthrow the USG. That's the military's job. And it won't necessarily be violent either. See the Carnation Revolution.

You people need to look into the history of revolution and insurgency in order to understand what you are even talking about with words like "clandestine", "underground", and "above ground".

There is nothing that fundamentally cuts off revolutionaries from the masses by them organizing in a clandestine way. That simply means their activities, existence, and membership is not openly advertised. Like both the Bolsheviks did and the Chinese communists did in the cities while the PLA was at work in the countryside, you can do clandestine work in unions, community organizations, and really any sort of organization or place of gathering. It's clandestine because you don't advertise your affiliation, goals, organizing activity, party organizational structure, etc.

Once you firmly grasp this essential fact, alongside the history of repression against all communists, allies, and accused allies of communists via annihilation campaigns, as well as simple illegalization and communist bans, you will see that "above ground" serves no purpose. It's a historical artifact of the organic working class movement, but the organic working class movement begins with reforms in mind, and communists have to act from the knowledge that all reforms accelerate the dissolution of bourgeois democracy and violent repression. It's our unique position as communists to set up clandestine organizations that can at worst survive repression, and at best successfully defend against it with arms and contest bourgeois state authority.

The clandestine work among the masses consists of intelligence gathering (mass line (i.e. assess grievances, combine this with economic-political knowledge to create solutions, and return with these solutions), social investigation (i.e. objective analysis of local economy, classes, class relations, class forces, etc.), and determining the advanced (those you can recruit), intermediate (those you can educate and potentially mobilize semi independently when necessary), and backwards (those who need to be watched for sabotage, violence, snitching, etc. and suppressed/marginalized), and counter-intelligence on bourgeois forces), intelligence disseminating (education and propaganda), intelligence denying (security), and building a people's militia.

>>2682468
>>2721578
The Marxist position for bourgeois elections is not abstentionism nor voting for bourgeois parties that serve the domination of capitalist imperialism, but rather into organizing a distinct revolutionary party of the working class for proletarian class domination that is independent of the bourgeoisie. Using the election to count forces and demonstrate its program to the masses, even if its candidates have no chance of winning. Voting for communist candidates is a duty if you call yourself a communist, to develop experience in the class struggle and spread propaganda to the masses.

Now let's begin with three quotes from Marx and Engels on how communists should act in a bourgeois democratic election:

<Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.

<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, 1850, "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League"

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm

<The first great step of importance for every country newly entering into the movement is always the organisation of the workers as an independent political party, no matter how, so long as it is a distinct workers' party. And this step has been taken, far more rapidly than we had a right to hope, and that is the main thing. That the first programme of this pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2722096
*Here is the correct link to the text “Letters: Marx-Engels Correspondence 1886”, Engels to Friedrich Adolph Sorge in Hoboken:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/letters/86_11_29.htm

>>2682468
At the upcoming Amerimutt elections, you need to vote democrat.
Liberal democracy promotes the lie that it can resolve its own issues by reforms, and the democrat party exemplifies this lie. When they return to power and nothing gets any better
for the average burger, the last veneer will vanish: no blaming trump, no blaming republicans, no blaming le bad man, only the system laid bare for all to see, Ezra Klein's "Abundance" as it really is.
>Liberal retard
Liberalism in its modern incarnation, the ideology of AI Abundance, trickle-down everything, EA smugness, is the real accelerationism.

Vote Democrat as ridiculous as it sounds.

If you vote for republican you will end up with a populace and media that sublates all the system's flaws on le Bad Man. Republicans will only be a scapegoat for America to continue its pedophilic imperialist existence, whereas Democrats will expose the flaws as intrinsic to the imperial capitalist system and collapse it.

>>2723676
>That's precisely my point, except that (A) is not stipulated, it is presupposed.
reads as a distinction without a difference. i've been using the terms interchangeably.
>If Nature is made intelligible by thought, then are mind and nature not subject to the same principles? If nature is not made intelligible by thought, yet Mind grasps itself (by necessity of Reason), then you appear to be promoting dualism (which is not unrespectable, but just not transparent of the current discussion's terms).
the question of what makes nature intelligible is separate from the question of whether mind and matter are homoousian. mind does not grasp itself by any "necessity of reason". if mind "grasps itself" at all, it does so contingently in a historical act of practical reasoning which constructs, adopts, and reifies conventional certainties as "things". this act is what we call thought. it is the same act by which mind "grasps" any object with propositional content. all that is special about this case is the apparent reflexivity which makes it the constitutive act of symbolic subjectivity.
>What must be understood however is that Knowledge is an abstract category, which I hope you would agree with.
i don't know that there is such a thing as a concrete category.
>How can one perceive, if it is not of things which possess identity?
we do not perceive objects of definite identity, e.g. in sensation. the identity of the objects obtained in sensation is constructed in post-sensual perception. it is through the practical act of abstracting from common sense memories that we construct and reify categories like "brown", "tree", "chair", "table", "1", "+", "=", "2", and so on ad infinitum if we had the time and energy.
>Even to be a subject is still to be, and so one's identity is presupposed (e.g. Descartes).
that is to say, it is stipulated as certain.
>No you couldn't, thats the point. But let's proceed: The first law of anti-logic is the law of non-identity (A≠A). Now what? If (1+1≠2), then what does it equal? See how contradiction here is negative, so cannot be logical.
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>>2724474
So who taught the first crow how to fly?
>>2723983
>no difference between proposition and presupposition
But thats clearly false. A proposition must be demonstrated to be true, while a valid presupposition is self-evident. You already said that in The Law of Identity, that Identity is presupposed in the proposition.
>Reason is historically contingent
This is nonsensical in the terms that you put it, hence why its seemingly impossible for you to be honest and say that (A+A=2A) as an absolute fact. Even if we are Hegelian, Hegel does not deny the actuality of Reason throughout history, but rather sees that History is defined by its immanent rationality (e.g. telos), and so at the dawn of self-consciousness, freedom is already present, but as yet not "realised" in its Being. We can otherwise call it potency; if Reason springs up from Nature, then Nature must be rational so as to Be.
>identity is inherently abstract
Yes, and Knowledge is the Knowledge of identity (e.g. "things"). How else can we define Knowledge?
>any proposition is valid on a system of logic which allows strict anti-identity.
The point is that to propose non-identity is contradictory, so then Identity is presupposed.
>knowledge is immediate
And how do you "know" this, exactly?
>i don't have much else to add other than that it's fascinating to me how many of our premises and understandings align, and yet the conclusions we draw on most everything are fundementally opposed.
It must be because one of us is being more rational than the other.

>>2725448
>A proposition must be demonstrated to be true, while a valid presupposition is self-evident.
again, a presupposition (stipulation) is just a kind of proposition, namely that kind of proposition the truth value of which is not demonstrated as a conclusion through deductive inference, but given as an axiom or premise. the demonstrably valid truth value of any conclusion is only ever a conventional result already contained within truth values we stipulate beforehand.
>You already said that in The Law of Identity, that Identity is presupposed in the proposition.
i said the opposite. you have to have propositions to formulate the law of identity.
>its seemingly impossible for you to be honest and say that (A+A=2A) as an absolute fact.
it's an absolute fact within an intentionally constructed practice of constrained signification.
>>2725448
>if we are Hegelian
i'm not a christian, so i'm not hegelian.
>if Reason springs up from Nature, then Nature must be rational so as to Be.
it does not follow that because reason is a part of nature, that nature is wholly rational in as much as that means reason itself is just nature's own self-apprehension. rationality is constructed in material reality by reason's practical and historical apprehension of nature, just as reason itself is constructed through the historical and unreasoned dynamical processes of nature.
>Knowledge is the Knowledge of identity (e.g. "things"). How else can we define Knowledge?
the question is malformed, because you haven't provided a definition, you've only asserted that the identity of things, i.e. an equation of truth apt-propositions, is the content of knowledge.
two common language intuitions i find massively instructive when trying to get at a definition of knowledge: first, you only know what you've learned. this is the rational kernel of naive tabula rasa empiricism. the epistemic subject is genuinely a blank slate prior to the perceptual act of knowledge creation we call learning. second, you only know what you remember. if i learn 1+1=2 on monday, andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2725875
>i'm not a christian, so i'm not hegelian.
lmfao

>>2725875
>a presupposition is just a kind of proposition
I simply disagree, so we must abandon this issue. You see that a valid presupposition is true in the terms which it constitutes, but in my opinion, you fail to see how what is proposed is different from what is presupposed.
>you have to have propositions to formulate the law of identity.
Okay, so what are the primary propositions of logic?
>it's an absolute fact within an intentionally constructed practice of constrained signification.
Yes, which denotes the content of thinking, which as something bound to necessity, is a logical structure. Thus as I have written, the laws of thought are logical.
>reason's practical and historical apprehension of nature
Reason is not an object of history, it is the subject. If not, then the meaning of history is absolved.
>you haven't provided a definition
But this is the same trouble in Theaetetus; to provide a theory for how we come to know (epistemology), we find that we must already know so as to come to know. This is why the rational subject is a knowing being, which begins in self-identity. If you deny your own identity, then from whence doth thou speaketh?
>the epistemic subject is genuinely a blank slate prior to the perceptual act of knowledge creation we call learning
Kant disproves this by seeing how the form of empirical knowledge is formed from the pure intuitions of space and time (in the understanding). Phenomena (i.e. perception) is constituted by these, which do not exist in things themselves, but in how things appear to us. To perceive thus, is to have content for what is formal. Proof of this is in how thinking itself is perceptual, as you put it, and so is conditioned by an internal space and time, which as I have said, links necessity to causation, and so logic to the realm of intelligence.
>you only know what you remember
We also come to know by Reason alone, hence I can know that all bachelors are unmarried, despite never having a memory of all bachelors and married people.
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