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Why are so many modern communists obsessed with liberal concept of indigenous rights? When communists dont believe in land ownership or inheritance.

>Body too short

>Body too short
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>>2838877
How come the feds understand communism better than you do?

Because they are liberal LARPers

because the westerns "leftists" have been co opted by IDpol

>>2838925
meds now

may I see these modern communists obsessed with indigenous shit?, I don't know any parties or public figures doing what OP is describing but maybe I just live under a rock. internet bullshit doesn't count



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Jewish people are an ethno-religious group that have largely been ostracized from Christian/muslim society because they were here first. It’s created, beyond just a religion, a form of ethnic identity. This board believes in decolonization, and in the principle that children should not be judged for their identities and the identities of their parents. That should extend fully to Jews as well and it’s far and away the biggest issue I have with this “leftist” group that many of you want to exclude such a large population of historically marginalized people. Some of the best leftists from Marx and Luxembourg to Goldman and Bookchin, Jewish individuals have written much of the theory we practice today.

We can, and should, be antizionist, but antizionism ≠ antisemitism. The most bigoted thing you can do towards a Jew is to assume they are spoken for by a genocidal apartheid regime, and to unionize your fight for antizionism with the rights fight for antisemitism. Don’t get the two confused and don’t be a schmuck.
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>>2836528
Humans

After Hitler's death a new version of Mein Kampf was released with thousands of footnotes calling out his bullshit, and all sales of the book were donated to Jewish families. What nobody talks about tho, is that in the 60s Jewish bankers and politicians ended the deal to incentivize Israelis to continue stealing from Palestinians amid the wave of decolonization and racial equality sweeping the west

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>>2836531
The jewish continuous genealogy stories are myths, and jews are made up of converts from the areas they lived.
Thank you, god bless.

>>2834367
Giga Based

>>2838875
Just like Kars 4 Kids but with Hitler!



 

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>>2837742
He said "white" genocide.

>>2837716
If they are doing for profit, they are only going to amplify what's already popular.

>>2837820
I mean kinda but not really, it's a lot easier to generate shock outrage content than actually thoughtful stuff, it leads to a general degeneration of the mindset of the viewer towards reactionism.

>>2837776
only applies to ruthenians

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>>2838726
I always knew Ukrainians were Black.



 

This history of socialism shows, with perfect clarity, that a fully planned economy is plainly inferior to a socialist market economy. This is not to say that fully planned economies are bad, they absolutely do have their strengths. But economies that are partially planned, directed rather than dictated, have all of the same strengths, while being infinitely more flexible. The socialism of then may have raised millions out of poverty, but it was the socialism of now century that raised them into luxury, luxury greater than anything the capitalist world has ever been able to provide.

Western "Marxists" are fucking obsessed with the idea of command economies. Half of them say that AES states are not actually socialist; this is wrong. The other half says that AES states have only temporarily adopted markets, and will return to the Golden Path as soon as possible; this is also wrong, and much more egregiously so, be because it requires ignorance of and/or cognitive dissonance towards the official statements and actions made by these nations.

Western "Marxist" arguments in favor of command economies are, likewise generally rooted in ignorance, not understanding that the lifestyles they have/aspire to would be unfeasible within a purely planned system. Those that are not rooted in ignorance are instead rooted in aceticism, in poverty worship, in an intellectual cancer that must be rooted out by whatever means necessary.

Sure, we may, at some point, obviate markets. But it would require a fundamental change in the means of production that, by my calculations, is far, far away from where we are now.

In any case, you would do yourself well to stop worshipping the corpses of Stalin and Mao and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
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>>2835487

Actually the fortune 500 companies are in the most fervent & irreconcilable competition with one another, generally speaking; Significant expansion means cannibalizing each other.

While singular bilateral deals can happen, there is no generalized merger or coalition.

The problem with capitalism is that it is insufficiently centralized (or unitary, which is a less ambiguous & imprecise term than centralized)

>>2836560

Safronov recently came out with a huge book on the topic of the USSR's economy & the changes to its organizational structure over time.

>>2805722
Only good post in this shit thread

Ignoring also that the DPRK is debunking this, after clamping down on markets which produce nothing around 2020 they are now doing pretty well, so well in fact that now even the cope york times have reported on this. Even "experts" are crying about how north korean people doing better is actually bad um ok? Also im pretty sure the USSR didnt plan literally everything or every commodity they produced, the goods that lacked in the ussr were also the same goods they really didnt plan, the planning resources were mostly used towards heavy industry, not consumer goods (although some things they did produce are known for their reliability, like in the GDR). Anyway, it all boils down to how much of the surplus value you reinvest back into a given society and towards infrastructure etc… markets themselves dont do jackshit

>>2838211
That book is good. A few pages of commentary during the 70s section.



 

Genel Türkiye siyaseti ile ilgili konuşun!

Li ser siyaseta giştî ya Tirkiyê biaxive!

Şıma qısey bıkı Poliya Turika!

Yurtişi siyaseti p'ara yoxaleps!

تحدثوا عن السياسة العامة في تركيا!
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Members of ESP and SGDF were detained.
As part of an investigation launched by the Diyarbakır Chief Public Prosecutor's Office, five members of the Socialist Party of the Oppressed (ESP) and the Federation of Socialist Youth Associations (SGDF) were taken into custody.

Those detained in different cities are: Fethiye Ok, Soner Çiçek, Bensu Özkan, Poyraz Aksu, and Rümeysa Batıran.

In a statement released via social media, ESP stated, “The political crackdown against revolutionary socialists continues. Revolutionary socialist struggle is not a crime. Long live our organized struggle! This blockade will be lifted, freedom will prevail!”
https://anfenglishmobile.com/guncel/amed-de-5-esp-ve-sgdf-li-gozaltina-alindi-229780

>>2838056
This happens very often unfortunately. ESP and ESP members are constantly getting raided, arrested, followed around and harrassed by undercover pigs, etc.

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>>2802838
iskender kebap

>>2802838
Doner. Perhaps the greatest invention of turks.

>>2802838
Raki (I’m an alcoholic)



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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/06/afghanistan-new-code-enabling-child-marriage-compounds-dismal-situation-for-womens-and-girls-rights/

>A new decree from the Taliban enabling child marriage is the latest salvo in an ongoing assault on the rights of women and girls in Afghanistan, Amnesty International said in a new legal analysis.


>The Decree No. 18 “Code on Judicial Separation of Spouses”, published by the Taliban in an official gazette on 14 May 2026, codifies the circumstances under which women and girls may seek separation from marriages. It includes provisions that uphold marriages arranged during childhood and restrict women’s and girls’ ability to challenge or leave such unions.


>Prior to August 2021, Afghanistan’s civil code set the legal marriage age for girls at 16, while marriages involving girls under the age of 15 were criminalized under the 2009 Elimination of Violence Against Women (EVAW) law. Afghanistan also had legal and institutional mechanisms aimed at addressing violence and discrimination against women and girls, including family courts, specialized units within the Attorney General’s Office and Ministry of Interior, and a high-level commission tasked with addressing violence against women, child marriage, and family separation matters.


>While these protections were often inconsistently implemented and significant barriers remained, they nonetheless provided women and girls with some legal avenues for protection and access to justice. Today, these laws and institutional structures have been dismantled by the Taliban and replaced with deeply discriminatory and repressive systems that further entrench gender inequality and restrict women’s rights and autonomy.


How do we stop muslim pedos from normalizing pedophilia and child marriage in a multipolar world?
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>>2837977
i can see the value and positives of china distabalizing american dominance, sure, but otherwise i really dont see the value in upholding ccp intrests when it comes to being on good terms with the fucking taliban or trading with israel, i really dont

>>2837143
It really wasn't. As others have pointed out, child rape in other forms (especially pederastry) was widespread under that government. It was also obscenely corrupt, completely incompetent, not remotely sovereign, and composed of some of the most viscious criminals and warlords in the world. It had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. At the very least with it gone the people of Afghanistan (which like it or not includes the Taliban) are free to determine their affairs for themselves.

>>2837314
so? that doesn't make seculars the majority and both seculars and their zionist backers love to piggyback and takeover any unrelated protest (and ruin it) like they did in december when people were protesting inflation

>>2837848
>sanction hurt the ruling class and not the people! SANCTIOOOOONS!
kys imperialist lib

>>2837136
>The national bourgs wouldn't develop on their own without the US
Fucking retard



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In this thread we list crimes the USA has committed against Cuba to debunk the myth the USA wants to “free” Cuba

>On the 20th of april 1898 the United States intervenes in the Cuban war of independence against Spain supposedly on the Cuban rebel’s side but later betrays them on the 1st of January 1899 replacing Spain as Cuban imperial overlord and installing a military government in Cuba led by U.S. army general John R. Brooke.

>>2837884
Because you touch yourself at night

Huh

The Mob and other American organized crime groups had a huge presence in Cuba before the revolution. Cuba was a massive hub of gambling and drug and human trafficking under gangsters like Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano. Said gangsters were heavily involved in US intelligence backed anti-communist terror networks that tried to undermine Cuban socialism.

>>2837810
On on the 20th of May 1902 Cuba gained
Faux “independence” from the United States with a constitution that was accepted by the USA on the condition it was amended to include giving the united states the right to invade Cuba if it felt the Cuban government was jeopardising “freedom”, a limitation of the amount of public debt the Cuban government could have, letting the U.S. keep Guantanamo, Cuba required U.S. permission to entire into relations with other countries.

>>2837810

>>2838682
America used their right to invade Cuba to occupy it for a 2nd time from September 1906 to February 1907, to crush an Afro Cuban uprising in 1912, and to occupy it a 3rd time from August 25th 1917 to February 15th 1922



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  1. How would anarchists respond to the criticism that, over 150 years of organized anarchist thought (from Bakunin and the International in 1866 onward, or even Stirner before that), their analysis of exploitation has remained largely vague and general?
  2. How do anarchists explain the origins and development of exploitation? And how would they account for the evolution of society without relying on concepts like class struggle and the dictatorship of the proletariat as scientific tools?
  3. Are anarchists generally committed to social ownership of the means of production, or do they tend to favor small-scale production and some forms of private ownership? How would they address the claim that anarchism is just bourgeois individualism turned on its head?
  4. How do anarchists propose to organize and educate workers for class struggle while refusing participation in bourgeois political institutions? How would they avoid offering what critics call one‑sided, disconnected fixes, especially when global coordination seems necessary and anarchism’s individualist tendencies may undermine it?
  5. How would anarchists respond to the observation that anarchism lacks a unified doctrine, elementary revolutionary teaching, or basic theory? How do they view the historical fragmentation of the workers’ movement often attributed to anarchist influence, and what can be learned from the short‑lived anarchist “state‑like” experiments?
  6. How would anarchists avoid the charge that rejecting bourgeois politics in practice ends up subordinating the working class to bourgeois politics—all under the guise of being “above” or “outside” traditional political action?
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>>2831936

>It is vague. How does this exploitation occur? What are its characteristics? What makes someone a worker and what makes someone a boss?


A worker is someone who must sell their labor to survive because they don't own productive resources. A boss is someone who owns productive resources and therefore can extract surplus from those who do the work. Exploitation occurs through this structural relationship not through individual bad behavior but through the wage relation itself. It's the same basic analysis as Marx. The anarchist addition is that the state isn't just a tool of this class relation but co produces it. For example, enclosure, legal enforcement of property, suppression of horizontal institutions are all state functions that make capitalism possible.

>What else is anarchism based on if not scientific methods?


Materialist analysis of power structures rather than a teleological stage theory. The disagreement with Marxism isn't about method, it's about whether history has a predetermined destination requiring a transitional state to get there.

>Are anarchists for or against small production, large scale industry?


Social anarchists favor collective ownership and management of large scale industry through worker councils and federations. Not small production as a romantic ideal, not state ownership, but direct worker administration.

Yellow unions? All unions? Every social movement? What is "popular education"?
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I attended the first smack a white boy event, where we disrupted the crimethinc anarchist confrence in our neighborhoods which were facing gentrification, ask me anything.

>>2838506
>Materialist analysis of power structures rather than a teleological stage theory. The disagreement with Marxism isn't about method, it's about whether history has a predetermined destination requiring a transitional state to get there.
Are you the same anon spamming the board about Marxist teleology?


>>2838561
No though I've only posted in the other anarchist thread to show the social anarchist perspective



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I'm not sure I'm going all-in on the tankie kool-aid, but if there's anything I can respect about this man, it's how quickly and decisively he handled business when he found out his brother was snitching on him to the CIA. If everyone in the world had this sort of attitude when it came to American feds, we wouldn't have any problems at all.

Kim is the only man to make Xi stutter and trip on his own shoes

Rumors has it Kim, during his off the record visit to China at the height of 2010s DPRK-China tensions, took Xi to an otherwise empty parking lot in which they had escorted Xi to park his car. When Kim and the Workers Party of Korea went with him back to the parking lot they surprised Xi with the introduction to the DPRK's first working nuclear missile. It was held by a crane 50 meters in the air, centered above Xi's car. Slowly but surely it was lowered, and the closer it got the sheer size of it was demonstrated. "P-Please! Stop! Stop that!" Xi exclaimed, but to no avail. Uninterrupted in its secure descent the nuclear warhead arrived at the roof and effortlessly smushing his car flat, before it stopped. Xi was at a loss of words, before falling to his knees. He uttered "I apologize", in Korean.

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>>2838287
When all the leaders go to pay deference to the Workers Party of Korea they also make the leaders do some labour, which is considerate of them.

>>2838294
screencap this gem



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Where did all the anarchist arsonists go? What happened with the regular revenge killings and assassinations between leftists and rightists? Wasn't there even a story about an artillery unit possibly going rogue, with special forces on standby just in case? Why has all this been memory-holed? Seemed like there was a real possibility of revolution, and it been culled into only radlib circlejerks.

Anyone got any footage and content from 2020?
Any clear timeline of events and the main organizations involved?
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>>2838104
i mentioned it to one of my friends who was living in DC at the time (unbeknownst to me) and he mentioned that they did indeed jam the phones but they weren't disappearing people.

>>by god we'll have our home again


they're hiding because were closing in on them, we're going to show everyone what millions of anarcho-brains look like, and no other leftists will care because you pissed them off anarkiddies!

>>2837839
>2020 was 6 years ago.
I feel ancient, I still remember night gang being based.
Oh and that one anon who created the fake news story that homeless people stole all the food from CHAZ

>>2838105
glowie bait

>>2838105
obvious ai schizo bait
sloppy job langley



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