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I really don’t understand why people think that the Jews control communism I know why people think that because Marx was a Jew but he pacifically said that religion was the religion was opened to the masses and corrupted people so I don’t know why people think that communism? Is a Jew thing when it’s more of a atheist thing
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>>2753938
Antisemitism isn't really about "the Jews" as much as it is a response to complexity and contradiction. If you look at an antisemite's imagined idealized society it's really a utopian, crunchy, hippie sort of thing where everyone has a role and nothing is internally divided. Instead of a big government bureaucracy with corporations who are sticking needles in people's arms (vaccines) you just have people in their local communities bartering local "healthy" organic produce. Anything deemed to corrupt or mess up that unity and "one-ness" is deemed to come from the outside and that is "Jewish." The Jews are seen as like a biological, alien agent that has messed up a harmonious organic unity, and like you put it, "corrupted" people.

This can seem radical and anti-capitalistic, but Marxism operates with basically completely opposite assumptions about how society works, and really it's about how things evolve and change based on their internal contradictions (or struggles, tensions within a thing) as the primary source of a thing's own development and self-movement. Like you're a certain age and you're older than you were when you were a child, and one day you will get old, and that's a process of change throughout your life based on internal characteristics of your biology. It's a process of both growth and decay. You might be able to speed up or slow down aspects of aging due to external factors, like you can shorten your lifespan various ways, or "age" faster because of certain habits, but you can also get with somebody and reproduce yourself, but eventually you're going to die as well, that's built into what a biological organism is.

At any rate, capitalism is also internally contradictory. It needs to expand and constantly find new growth opportunities, but that same process also leads to economic crises. People lose their jobs which become obsolete as new technologies enter the scene which increase economic productivity but also results in higher unemployment which means less purchasing power to buy a surplus of goods until there's a big economic crash that wipes out a bunch of industries (see how this is contradictory). This isn't a glitch or a a conspiracy it's how capitalism gets into a hole and climbs back out of it. Economic production is carried out in a large-scale, basically cooperative way with large firms andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Jews abandoned communism once their presence in Israel was solidified, but you’d have to be a straight up liar if you have not noticed that prior to that the majority of communist movements were led by Jews. Luxemberg, Lenin, Trotsky etc it’s all so tiresome along with Marx himself being a jew

>>2755225
Like those famous Jews Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, and Kim Il-Sung.

>>2755225
Let's ignore all the communist leaders who were not Jews like engels, che, mao and sankara bitch

>>2755232
>>2755236
the nazi copes are either

A) that non jewish communists are "spiritually jewish" because communism "is just jewish because it just is ok???"

or

B) that non jewish communists were really just third world ᴉuᴉlossnWs who didn't care about communism and just used it as a vibe



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This is an attempt to completely analyze the subject of power, from principle to biology to observed social movement. I wrote this originally starting the axioms, and then I tacked on some previous work I had done to describe aspects of the model, and I kept going until I had a relatively complete model and then a complete-ish assortment of timelines, discussion points, and more angles of analysis.

The central thesis is this:
  1. Action Is Primary.
  2. All Action Is Preceded by a Cognitive Loop.
  3. The Cognitive Loop Produces the Collective Loop.
  4. The Collective Loop Is Dominated by One Elite Group.
  5. The Group Controls the Pen.
  6. The Group Is Controlled by the Family.

For PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/9f1lui.pdf

For markdown:
https://dustebin.com/api/pastes/FF_Oao3R.rs/raw
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No interest at all? I admit it's not perfect, but come on.

>>2752817
gotta find a better hook for your thread anon. Maybe condense what you're trying to say better? Your point by point of your thesis is pretty unclear and not many people are gonna bother reading a 70 page document by some rando

>>2752949
I understand not wanting to read the whole thing, but I would hope a skilled reader could follow the structure of the paper (using the table of contents) to read just 2-3 pages that are most pertinent to their interests. I don't know if other people read things the same way I do, so I can't say for sure if that would work.

Even though it's a long paper, it's quite shallow in many of the subjects. I'm just trying to cover a lot of bases in terms of how I weave the central model into anything. And for me, that is necessary because if I come across a puzzle piece that doesn't fit, I have to adjust the model.

I also did not write this with the intention of publishing it or even really having others read it. It's more like a dense, organized collection of notes that I've developed through covering many of the subjects mentioned at different layers of depth.

>>2751190
The group controls the pen is a pretty interesting point

>>2755286
well, here's what i think from reading around 12 pages
i find it pretty interesting, especially when it comes to childhood and adulthood development and with frameworks
so far it seems very focused on one particular style/place/state of people but i haven't read the rest of it(i have it bookmarked to read for later)
the theory put forward intrigues me but the classification into a few separate domains like social, law, and finance seems a bit too narrow, there could be a lot more
the writing could see some improvement because some of it feels llm-generated (eg: this is not because x. it is because y) so it ruins the immersion sometimes



 

I recently started reading Lukacs's ontology of a social being and my whole understanding of dialectics has been flipped.

Originally, I had read Engels' Anti-Duhring, in which he argues that dialectical analysis is essentially a physical interaction, which, in human societies, translate into different classes fighting for their existence and needs (i.e. the bourgeoisie wants low salaries, the proletariat needs higher salaries, conflict occurs = law of interpenetration of opposites). The argument is very "physicalist" and relies on seeing nature as a totality in constant mutation.

HOWEVER, Lukacs seems to completely disregard this. Instead, his dialectics could be best described by the following : Any individual has multiple possibilities to realize his "teleological acts" (conscious acts aimed at satisfaction of desires/needs/sustenance etc). Alienation occurs when he is constrained by an external cause to choose a possibility unsatisfactory compared to others. As such, the dialectic is essentially a movement between the individual who attempts to overcome this alienation, which translates into class war (proletariat see capitalism as irrational for them, but are forced to endure it => conflict with the bourgeoisie).

So, which is it ? Lukacs' dialectics imo can be reconciled with Engels, but it makes the latter's work appear as very superficial.
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>>2754627
Contradiction is what causes decay, communism has no contradictions

>>2754627
Many people would say yes, many would say no.
This demonstrates that this question hasn't been answered *practically*. But the answering of it will not be done through thinking, but by praxis: by class war and building of communism.

The question will then become meaningless because the CONDITIONS of society changed from underneath it.

It will become as irrelevant as how "would you blaspheme to save your family" was "answered" (ie made obsolete) by capitalism

It's not that we have two positions it's just that the QUESTION itself is a product of capitalism.

This shit so easy when you grok marxism

>>2754627
>But why do you care about the interest of others?
This is like asking « why do you want to stop being exploited ». I’m not a bourgeois, I don’t gain anything in the recurring crisis, I don’t have capital etc.


>You havent described the method.

I have, it’s called dialectical materialism (and arguably alienation). You analyze society by looking at its structures, at its elements, its contradictions, its totality. You don’t presume things to be eternal or fixed, and you make claims based on the logic that you derive. Read Marx’s 18th brumaire if you want an example of how it’s used.

>If dialectics means that everything decays, then why would communism not decay?

Because communism is the abolition of contradictions within human society by means which enable them to be overcome. Like how our judicial system in theory provides the resolution for vengeance.

>Why is linearity also presumed in the movement of things? (i.e. "progress")

It’s not. This is a deviation which occurred later.

>morality

Morality is not and has never been the sole determinant in society’s form. Morality is inherently subjective and you won’t derive universal claims about it.

>>2754633
contradiction causes change, to say that there is no contradiction is to say nothing will change about it. "decay" isn't really the right term for it.

>>2754627
to make even more questions with moral realism, it rapidly becomes more and more incoherent when viewed historically and across a broader section of the animal kingdom.
Like, are animals that live in ways incompatible with human society "evil"? Why is it humans, and specifically only humans, whose social order lines up with "morality" as some real thing? And even if humans are the only ones who can "access" morality, or are subject to it, what about the apes and earlier mammals that humanity used to be? When did humans start being subject to morality, what was morality before homo sapiens? Did morality just vaguely exist without anything that was connected to it, or were all the animals before humans just underdeveloped in their morals?

at some point moral realism either necessitates religious creationism of some kind, or arbitrary cherrypicking.



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Come on, western leftist! What is going on? You have the perfect opportunity - the old cannot rule in the old way, and the new cannot rule in the new way. You are between two class dictatorships RIGHT NOW. There is a crisis developing that will mark the definitive end to Western 500 year long hegemony. This is the time for DUAL POWER. Where are your contacts? Where is your network? Where are the people like Stalin and Sverdlov? What is happening? Hello? Does anyone care? Or do we need ISLAMOCOMMUNISM? Iran is the only organization currently attacking the old order.
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>>2743338
>Where are the people like Stalin and Sverdlov?
people like that are only produced by semi-feudal conditions

Does joining a organization and attempting to create dual power count?

>>2743338
You can't rile them up, let them rot away.

There's no left. Only queers and trans and pronouns coming together

>this is the time for dual power
Last time I checked there isn't a country currently suffering from total governmental collapse where that dual power can be used to replace and eventually overtake it



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Iran rejects Trump's 15-point peace proposal with five conditions of its own
"We do not intend to negotiate. So far, no negotiations have taken place, and I believe our position is completely principled," adding that Iran is sending messages through mediators but has not spoken to the US. Araghchi, however, added that Iran demands a permanent end to the war and compensation for destruction. He also taunted the US, saying it had failed to protect Gulf states despite its bases in the region.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-counters-trumps-15-point-plan-own-5-conditions-end-war

230 students, teachers killed in Iran as schools hit by US-Israeli strikes
The latest figures from the Iranian government follow the deadliest single incident of the conflict, which occurred on its first day, when the Shajarat al-Tayyiba girls’ primary school in the city of Minab was bombed. The air strike reportedly killed 168 students aged between seven and 12.
https://www.newarab.com/news/230-students-teachers-killed-us-israel-hit-schools-iran

South Africa’s top police officer faces charges in a widening corruption scandal
National Police Commissioner Fannie Masemola was served with a warrant ordering him to appear in court next month in relation to an investigation into an allegedly corrupt contract to provide health and well-being services to police officers, police spokesperson Brig. Athlenda Mathe said at a court appearance for the other officers. The high-profile arrests and warrant came while an inquiry continues into alleged high-level corruption in the South African police. Parliament also held special hearings into the allegations.
https://apnews.com/article/south-africa-police-corruption-arrest-contract-crime-9226199627aff1dc806ea22701e92b2a

‘RSF and SPLM-N seize parts of Sudan’s Blue Nile region’ as more than 73,000 flee
Paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) and fightersPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Army extends maximum recruitment age to 42, allowing older recruits to join
The average age of recruits is going up marginally, going from 21 years old in 2010 to nearly 23 years old last year, service data reviewed by ABC News shows. Additionally, the Army will now allow enlistments of individuals with only one marijuana-related conviction.
https://abcnews.com/Politics/army-extends-maximum-recruitment-age-42-allowing-older/story?id=131411519

Sanders and AOC unveil data center moratorium bill
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday will announce legislation to pause all new data center construction nationwide until AI safeguards are in place.
https://www.axios.com/2026/03/25/sanders-aoc-data-center-moratorium-bill

US Senators reach deal on capping insulin costs at $35 per month, Semafor reports
Shaheen is making ​an urgent push to ‌pass ⁠legislation to reduce the cost of insulin before her ​retirement ​from ⁠Congress, teaming with Senators Susan ​Collins, Raphael ​Warnock ⁠and John Kennedy, according to the ⁠Semafor ​report.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-senators-reach-deal-capping-insulin-costs-35-per-month-semafor-reports-2026-03-25/

TSA tipped off ICE in arrest of mother and child at San Francisco airport
The report, which cites federal documents, adds a new dimension to the arrest by ICE officers that went viral this week, casting new scrutiny on the Trump administration’s information-sharing agreements that critics say are leading to more indiscriminate immigration arrests.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/25/tsa-tip-off-ice-san-francisco-airport
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At No Kings: Let’s Flood the Streets to Demand the Abolition of ICE, Full Rights for Immigrants, and an End to the Imperialist War Against Iran
On March 28, No Kings and dozens of unions, community organizations, and left-wing groups across the country are calling for a mobilization under the slogan: No ICE, No War, No Kings. This cannot be just another mobilization; it must be a historic surge of millions so that Donald Trump and the Epstein gang hear us loud and clear. Trump and the Far Right were defeated in Minneapolis by the massive grassroots movement that brought about the end of Operation Metro Surge and the firing of Kristi Noem as head of the Department of Homeland Security. The Epstein scandal has shown millions that capitalism and violence against women and children go hand in hand with the systematic oppression of the most vulnerable by those who rule the world. Further, it revealed that several leaders of the ruling class from both parties are responsible for the rape, torture, and trafficking of over a thousand women and girls. In this first year of Trump’s presidency, the rights of trans people have been trampled upon in a super-conservative offensive that demonstrates just how authoritarian and reactionary the Far Right’s agenda is.
https://www.leftvoice.org/at-no-kings-lets-flood-the-streets-to-demand-the-abolition-of-ice-full-rights-for-immigrants-and-an-end-to-the-imperialist-war-against-iran/

Why Israel's defence in ICJ genocide case has disintegrated
Last week, Israel suddenly dropped charges against five soldiers accused of the sexual abuse and rape of a male Palestinian prisoner. This development was grotesque - all the more so, since there is no shortage of evidence. The soldiers were filmed as the atrocity was allegedly committed. As for the victim, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz has cited medical records showing that his injuries included a ruptured bowel, a severe injury to his anus, lung damage and broken ribs. In this article, however, we will not dwell on the moral squalor of the decision by Military Advocate General Itai Ofir to abandon the case. We will examine instead the consequences for Israel’s ongoing defence against genocide chargPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

TYBNA



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Feminists won and Chuds lost again.

No longer they can do problematic hate speech, with new ID verification laws finally children are safe from getting groomed by Chuds. I hope they will also add great firewall soon similar like China and ban all problematic websites like 4chan.
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parents will do anything but parent like just don't give them an Ipad with unrestricted youtube that shit not hard.

>>2754322
my primary question is: how is this information collected? cause like, if I'm just inputting a birth date without tying it to an identity, I will be able to do what every kid circa 2004 did to bypass any given age verification: 1/1/1901 now let me access the site, bitch.

and yeah I don't see how this helps feminists, or really, anyone other than major websites/platforms who don't want the responsibility of integrating some sort of age verification layer on their frontend. personally, it's a huge pain in the ass and it will be resisted and bypassed if people get pissed off enough about this.

Rule 14 a and g. Mods, OBLITERATE this social democratic reactionary anarchist peasantoid.

This false flag makes no sense THOUGH. How the flying fuck is it connected to feminism in any way?

>>2755116
You think rightards even know the answer to that?
They just pick a topic people don't like, and then tie it to whatever they dislike most, next one is going to say trans people did it, or DEI indians.



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Not a lot of revolutionary ideas coming out of the left . just talk about defending lost causes like the USSR etc we are looking backwards which is Undialectical .some new ideas coming out of leftypol but nothing groundbreaking . ACP RCP FRSO
DSA PSL have nothing new to say Losardo , cockshott and rock hill all talking about the past and dead ideas that can’t meet moment. They are brilliant people but it’s not new ideas just organizing the dead stuff . We can’t keep talking about history like a bunch of Reddit nerds where are the new ideas in theory and I don’t mean the dead end deleuze and anarchist crap of the 90s
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>>2682943
1. Pee is stored in the balls
2. Earth is flat
3. Aquatic ape theory
4. Russiagate
5. There are only two holes

AI will make the proletariat irrelevant in like 15 years

Full communism will not make racism or religious bigotry go away

2 very VERY important facts that communists need to truly comprehend and grapple with. The grappling might result in the new ideas you're looking for.

>>2709573
>Full communism will not make racism or religious bigotry go away
Yes it will because it will erase the material conditions that promote racism and it will eliminate the power of institutions that promote racial and cultural chauvinism

>>2709525
What advancements in communism?

ok ill make one



 

What exactly is the ml cope to justify the chernobyl disaster and the attempted cover up by soviet authorities?








The body was too short or empty.
OK
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>>2754777
Industrial accidents happen, but I think the issue was really bureaucratism, excessive departmental secrecy. It helped the party run the country but it had its downsides.

Mailuu-Suu was arguably a lot worse but you’ll never hear about it from westerners because Chernobyl happened to le aryan and euro Ukkkrainians and Mailuu-Suu happened in Kyrgyzstan and westoids don’t even know enough about them to even be racist

>>2748356
Do MLs still defend the Soviet Union after Khrushchev? And in any case they wouldn't call the Soviet Union a perfect socialist state anyways so I'm not sure what your point is.

>>2754893
Nobody cares about uranium mining being genocidally dirty though, there are dozens of places like this, even in Japan, US or France

>>2754914
That’s what infuriates me about all the nuclear enthusiasts here, thorium is always two weeks away and waste disposal doesn’t matter



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Why are the bourgeoisie so unapologetically evil? I know this is a stupid question but its hard for me to fathom how a human being could be as malicious and uncaring as the bourgeoisie are. Do they not care at all for the suffering they cause humanity, and the destruction they bring to the planet as a whole? Or do they delusionally believe that what they are doing is somehow in the right?
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>>2702562
it's simple, they do it because they can

Because bourgeois positions select for low empathy, so that's the tendency. If a bougie has the opportunity to grow richer but refrains from doing so due to their morals, that leaves the opportunity vacant for another bougie to take.
Do note that bourgeois position don't usually select for other traits. Some are dull (Musk), some are smarter (Gates), some have low inhibition, while others have low self-awareness. So there's a multitude of different individuals composing this class.
Humans also always partake in ingroup behavior and bourgeois culture often involves displays of cruelty. An anon here correctly pointed out that the initiation rituals they have serve so everyone is compromised and thus willing to cooperate.

they are bored

I always though it was just people who just did evil even though i had the knowledge of evil consuming your entire life.

>>2702562
most of the time they aren't, as such. the wonders of modern organizational structure mean that nobody is responsible for evil things that happen. they just happen.
would you become evil just for going to a share trading site and clicking "buy"? the smug, glib answer you could give to play to the crowd is "yes", but you wouldn't really feel it in your heart. but you would be the shareholder who's value is to be maximized, you would be 1-millionth of the end that it's all supposedly for.

for everyone else: there's plenty of distractions, plenty more to be working on. if you think you're doing something for the greater good, or even something abstractly important, what does a little evil factor up against all the other practical problems you face?

also >>2752662

also-also: while occasionally it's just cope, it is also true that sometimes the most apparently evil bourgeoisie aren't so bad compared to the alternative. a sweatshop is evil, and all the evils of it are centralized in the figure of the owners of the sweatshop, but the alternative - everyone being subsistence farmers doomed to die next time there's a drought - is even more evil. it just lacks any individual to blame for that condition.



 

The western AI industry is estimated to be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. In 2026 that number will likely balloon even further as more and more capital is poured into the industry. The capitalist class whose shortsightedness is almost always a given has seemingly put all their eggs in this handbasket even at the expense of other sectors of the economy from consumer electronics to the water supply and electrical grids of small towns unfortunate enough to have had a datacenter built in their vicinity.
At the same time questions of what is being gained from these massive investments are being raised. If and when this bubble pops it will have adverse ripple effects across the entire global economic system and the capitalist class will be potentially set back trillions. In the process the contradictions that will lead to capitalism's downfall will intensify, opening the window for a socialist revolution. Even if AI and its related technologies can serve some kind of social good and help develop the productive forces. Actively cheering for an AI bubble burst effectively serves the same function as championing revolutionary defeatism whenever the ruling class wages imperialist wars.
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>>2754274
this is more significant than analysts are giving it credit because all the "world model" shit was pinned on some evolution of videogen, meaning that this is a technical dead end

I have been a rater for that shit for years, I don't personnaly use it. As a lowly worker in that field it is not getting better, meanwhile I have friends who fell for AI psychosis and adult students I kno are becoming completely dependant to it for anything to the point they spend the little money they have on tokens. I know there are some fields were it is useful but as far as mass consumerism is concerned it is pure alienation. I can't wait for that shit to burst.

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>>2752828
While China is one of the leaders in AI and has invested in the technology greatly. The Ai bubble is mostly issue for the west, not for China. The woe for western investors and the true horror of models such as deepseek is that. They are powerful, open and worst of all China went into the game with the expectation of not making any or very little money with the actual models.

Wester companies like openAI are all about having the best model and selling that for great profit for others. you can't compete as western AI company when your main competition doesn't expect to make a profit on the thing you are selling. They will undercut you every step of the way. Chinese tech sector however approached the whole AI thing with the expectation that the models themselves just enable other inventions like robotics and systems and those will make create the money and the growth. It's same it was with the internet. There was very little or at all money in building broadband networks and cell towers that enabled the whole thing. All the money was made at the "surface" of the tech. Like some mobile game or app with dev team of 12 people made 10000x of their initial investment.

When the bubble bursts and costs of AI drops, it will actually just benefit those who found a niche application for it and it will eventually democratize it further. Those who betted on GPU prices rising forever and somebody soon developing self improving AGI that they can rent for the rest of time for money will get fucked.

>>2754274
>AI bubble bursts
<Netanyahu suddenly stops appearing in public.

I do, but I still hope for Fully Automated Luxury Communism some day



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