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>After destruction commences, the masses are going to emerge in all countries – in a short time, in a few hours. Capitalism cannot defend itself in an atomic war except by putting itself in caves and attempting to destroy all that it can. The masses, in contrast, are going to come out, will have to come out, because it is the only way to survive, defeating the enemy… The apparatus of capitalism, police, army, will not be able to resist… It will be necessary to organise the workers' power immediately

>One of the best-known positions of J. Posadas was his enthusiasm for nuclear war. More precisely, at the height of the Cold War, Posadas thought that nuclear war was inevitable. His idea was that rather than wait for the forces of capitalism, the nuclear-armed socialist states should launch a preemptive attack that would destroy the nuclear capabilities of capitalist countries. Additionally, he believed that this sort of catastrophe could spark the world revolution
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>>2580089
Apparently Posadas never heard of radiation and nuclear winter

>>2580116
>radiation
cures CO2 pollution
>nuclear winter
reverses global warming

>>2580116
Most areas not directly hit by nukes would not have radiation levels high enough to be a direct threat beyond way higher cancer rates in the future, and most hit areas would go back to safer levels after 2 months. From his point of view nuclear winter would force the remaining humans to band together because they would be forced too in a post nuclear world for survival, because the only other option would be death. Though I don't understand how he thinks it would result in socialist communities forming after when I think things would just return to feudalism instead at that point.

>>2580089
Destroying the productive forces is something the capitalists do 🙄.
Communists support the development of the productive forces.

>>2580364
Capitalists' fault for imbuding their mode of production into literally every facet of society, They literally left us no other option. The world will be debased and scoured as the losers claim their prize.



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If the proletariat is the historic subject then why are proletarians useless retards while most great socialist figures were not proletarian themselves, i.e. didn’t produce surplus labor value.

<Karl Marx

>Son of a lawyer
>Journalist, philosopher, political economist

<Friedrich Engels

>Part-owner of textile mills
>Factory manager

<Vladimir Lenin

>Son of a noble-rank civil servant
>Lawyer and professional revolutionary

<Leon Trotsky

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>>2579981
>>2579840
Mods ban these falsifiers NOW!

>>2580844
The mods are falsifiers howeverbeit

>>2580605
The sad thing is that if you read marx its pretty clear he’s commenting on the revolutionary and militant working class movements that existed a long time before he ever entered politics and which all of european society was being forced to respond to

>>2579840
>>2579840
>Working class and proletariat do not mean exactly the same.
Nationalist, retard

>>2579375
>>2580605
>>2585598
IMO the simple answer is that the bourgeoisie were still largely historically progressive at the time. Marx was a visionary but the transition from the bourgeoisie to the proletariat as the revolutionary subject was a process that has taken much longer than Marx expected. I think that today the proletariat are the revolutionary subject much more than they were in the past.



 

*This is mainly targeted towards zoomers on TikTok

Practically all leftist "propaganda edits" have been filtered towards slop copies of whatever the far right has been doing for the past few years;

The right starts making little dark age edits with World War 2 movies? The left copies that, only changing it from the German sided perspective to the Soviet,

The right starts putting shitty statistics over nature scenarios with nightcore blasting through? The left copies it, only changing the statistic and adding a ushanka to the retarded greek statue reaction image,

The right starts doing Agartha/Hyperborea edits? The left copies it, only changing the symbolism from the Black Sun to Red Shambhala (And yes, I know the whole Red Shambhala thing is supposed to be a parody of that),

What the fuck are we doing in that department? Any suggestions?
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>>2552861
>What a pathetic person you are. You're probably a millennial. No in fact I know for certain that you are.
i hate genpol so much lol

Tailism

cultural dissemination, you wouldn't get it old man

>>2561149
Because they are stupid and overused and there doesn't need to be a soy/chudjak board.

>>2565436
I sort of had a anti-SJW Phase, but I came into it thinking that the ideology of SJWs were more similar to Puritanism/American Christianity than anything else (especially the whole anti-sex/anti-sexual expression/anti-porn wing of feminism). And how SJWs were the unwitting "useful idiots" of corporations, who didn't realize that the corporations were only using "diversity" as a cynical advertising/marketing scheme that wouldn't actually improve the conditions for minorities and women.

I mainly disagreed with Sarkessian because I was under the impression that if video games don't cause violence, then they also don't cause sexism. That and I thought she was just another "Jack Thompson" type of grifter trying to make yet another moral panic over video games like the Satanic Panic in the 1980's with DnD.



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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>>2584719
Assad's exiled spy chief and billionaire cousin plot Syrian uprisings from Russia
From exile in Moscow, ex-intel chief Kamal Hassan and Assad cousin Rami Makhlouf are spending millions of dollars in competing efforts to build fighting forces that would lead a revolt along Syria’s coast. They are also vying for control of a network of 14 underground command rooms stocked with arms and ammunition that were built in the dictatorship’s last days. Syria's government has deployed another former Assad insider – a childhood friend of the new president – to neutralize the plotters.

Summary

>>2584440
>As Rosa Luxemburg said to Kautsky, they have become, in effect, "guardians of the treasury of Marxism."
< libertarian and democratic forces must be at least as committed to seeking and striving as the dominant system.
> it is incomprehensible and unacceptable that leftist and socialist forces are engaged in exhausting debates, effectively opposing each other rather than fighting against the dominant system.
Truth Nukes
>>2584721
Real or bullshit that will be used to justify the next round of crimes against humanity on the coast?

>>2584719
This sounds like islamist propaganda
>reuters
Yeah lmao

>>2584719
It's just dumb Facebook capeshit from ex-regime figures. Will probably be used by the STG to amplify & justify paranoia about Alawites.



 

Uno si assenta per qualche mese e il filo più importante di tutti scompare… Roba da matti!

Non ho proprio calcolato questa tavola più o meno dal periodo dell'impresa di Luigi Mangione e ho ricominciato a buttarci un occhio solo da una settimana o due. Vediamo un po' che ne viene fuori stavolta.
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Is Italy tired of fascists again for a few more years, or is Meloni still seen as the zionist queen who will make the country great again?

>>2547558
Everything is going to shit even quicker and worst than usual. Just to give some perspective. In 2024 the PPP per capita average income was 95% of what it was in 2008, the year of the whole Lehman Brothers world financial clusterfuck and then the turbo-austerity on the 2010s. Aside from Greece, which is in even deeper shit, it's the worse result compared to every other euro-poor country. And things are crap everywhere, but they are just atrocious here.
I guess I have to come up with one of my ebin efforposts, but I guess I have to send a letter tonight. I'll try to come up with something for our beloved international anons anyway. If it's not tonight, it's gonna be tomorrow.
Btw, Georgia Malhoney is usually high on coke when she goes out in public.


>>2563442
CGIL is the biggest and oldest union, but they're one of the main causes of the current salary stagnation in Italy.
It's also stuffed with boomers and retirees, they don't give a fuck.

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eeeh ma il PD



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It's old news that fascism is on the rise but I can't be the only one that is suspecting there's a deliberate push by social media companies at this point? Twitter might be obvious but I'm also seeing more and more things on places like youtube getting tons of views that wouldn't have been allowed to stay up a couple years ago, picrel for example. Instagram reels being full of nazi content and its comment sections being bombarded with racism is something that's become infamous but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
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>>2585674
>slopbrained unorganized prole has less political power now
And its going to get even worse with AI. A major collapse would benefit everyone except liberal status quo.

>>2585674
>The real question is whether fractions of the national bourgeoisie are embracing anti-liberalism and race pseudoscience, since they actually have political power.
So, uhh, the Muskrat?

>>2555799
>there's a deliberate push by social media companies at this point?
no, they just gave up on trying to suppress it, all the suppression between 2017 - 2024 did was make trump and the far right more popular
If you de-platform trump from every media platform on the internet, then he gets re-elected anyway with a majority vote it becomes pretty clear which way the wind is blowing, shitlib censorship attempts just aren't tolerated anymore

>>2585674
>The real question is whether fractions of the national bourgeoisie are embracing anti-liberalism and race pseudoscience
Yeah, of course. Where have you been?

>It's old news that fascism is on the rise but I can't be the only one that is suspecting there's a deliberate push by social media companies at this point?
Why would anyone, anyone, assume:
>media outlets are politically neutral
>social media platforms are politically neutral
>think tanks and propaganda services aren't important
___
>but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
Glad for you that it seems that way, but I've seen this shit since at least 10 years ago



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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2573157
anything that weakens imperialism has a lot to do with socialism

>>2579036
Aryans are basically the result of eastern hunters coming to europe, killing everyman and raping everywomen there thousands of years ago. Thats why half of europoors white people today have dark hair and dark eyes. These are the people called Aryans. Whites are still called whites. You find them in northern europe.

>>2398521
Communization is the belief that the revolution starts from the creation of new economic social relations. As opposed to Marxist leninist style state takeover and development of productive forces (how long they have to develop before spontaneously deciding it's ready for communism is anyone's guess).

Communization is more in line with historic evolution of modes of production. For example capitalism really began in the English agriculture sector, with competitive rents driving capitalist logic to the forefront.

Did any 19th century theorist predict that communist rethoric would be used in the future in underdeveloped states to justify capitalism?

>>2585622
they're the ones (marx and engels) that created that rhetoric
they also spent a bunch of time shitting on ultraleft idealists



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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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>>2584959
Maybe because the "Left" is the same (secularized) religious nonsense as the "Right" where they promise to save the world from the evil Other, end suffering, and prevent the Apocalypse. Except only the "Right" consistently appeals to obscene enjoyment and sadism, on top of of being shameless and unapologetic about it. Making it much more appealing compared to the "Left"?
The part of the "Left" (as far as it exists in this country) here running in elections and calling themselves "communists" concern themselves primarily with geopol shit, saint worship and "anti-imperialism". They're also anti-lgbt.

Maybe instead of yet another eschatological ideology people ought to subordinate their lives to, "The Left" should listen more to locals (e.g. workers and co-workers in their own towns and neighborhoods). And critique the metaphysical flaws of "bad faith" arguments like xenophobia, instead of appealing to "The Truth" (e.g. consult the graphs!).
I no longer feel there's any point to identifying with movements denying communism as something possible in the present (or already existing at small scales) anyway. Communism as the historical eschaton bringing salvation from suffering, fear and having to make choices through complete transcendence of the human condition is indistinguishable from organized religion.

>>2584678
>Confusing exports and domestic production
Shameful really

>>2585545
>The part of the "Left" (as far as it exists in this country) here running in elections and calling themselves "communists" concern themselves primarily with geopol shit, saint worship and "anti-imperialism". They're also anti-lgbt.
Yeah. And we haven't even reached peak tailism, which will happen after Le Pen and the others win.

>>2584955
>Russia is a complete neoliberal shithole and has nothing to do with communism or the USSR.
Someone smarter than me should write an effortpost about this genre of leftist for whom the tragedy of USSR's fall does not lay in abandonment of socialist project and the suffering privatisations brought, but in teritorial loss and flag change.

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I hate social chauvinism I hate social chauvinism



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Interested to see if we have any contrarians here who can explain why the RSF is good and anti-imperialist actually. They're secular and portrayed as the bad guys in western media, so they're probably the good guys?
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The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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Apparently the number of people butchered in Al-Fasher is 60,000 as a low estimate:

https://uk-crime.co.uk/sarah-champion-2025-speech-on-gaza-and-sudan/

So this is the multipolarity that was promised

The UAE's strategy is to create interdependence on global, often conflicting power players in order to carve out its little colonialist enterprises in Africa and Yemen. So they submit to US military dominance in the gulf, help Russia avoid sanctions and just signed a new trade deal with China. They also offer a safe haven for oligarch money. This way they can fund this arab supremacist, genocidal RSF and no one tells them to stop

>>2584404
60 000 dead 150 000 missing.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя

Where are the russian protests against the involvement of their state in the Sudan genocide?

>>2584574
There was no genocide if the US thinks there was.
That's dialectical materialism, liberal.



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