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Belgrade protests plan to turn historic NATO bombing site into Kushner luxury hotel
On Tuesday, November 11, protesters converged from across the city and drew a red line around the site’s perimeter to symbolize a promise to defend it. “Today we have performatively shown what we will do in the coming days,” student Valentina Moravčević told Mašina. “We will be a living wall between all those who are trying to demolish these buildings. Cultural heritage is now defended exclusively on the streets, and that’s what we’re going to do.”
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/11/11/belgrade-protests-plan-to-turn-historic-nato-bombing-site-into-kushner-luxury-hotel/

Reeves has 'manifestly failed' as unemployment jumps to 5%
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) reported a figure of 5 per cent covering the three months to September - the highest since late 2020. This was up from 4.8 per cent reported last month and a larger leap than economists had predicted, with men worst affected by the shift. Separate HMRC data released by the ONS also showed a 32,000 decline in payrolled employment during October.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/reeves-has-manifestly-failed-unemployment-jumps-5

Court rules asylum seekers can stay at Epping hotel
Epping Forest District Council sought to block migrants lodging at The Bell Hotel in Epping by arguing its owner had flouted planning rules. Mr Justice Mould dismissed the claim on Tuesday, ruling an injunction was "not an appropriate means of enforcing planning control".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8x1wz8jz0yo

Indian police invoke ‘terror’ law as Modi alleges Delhi blast ‘conspiracy’
Police were still to give details on Tuesday on what caused the explosion near the Indian capital’s historic Red Fort, but officials said that the case had been registered under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, India’s main “anti-terrorism” law, giving investigators broader powePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The FBI Is Trying to Unmask the Registrar Behind Archive.Today
About a week ago, the X account belonging to Archive posted a link to a federal subpoena, which is dated October 30th. The subpoena, which was originally spotted by a German news site, is for a Canadian web registration company called Tucows, and demands that the company turn over “customer or subscriber name, address of service, and billing address” as well as an extensive list of other information related to the “customer behind archive.today.”
https://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-trying-to-unmask-the-registrar-behind-archive-today-2000682868

California police intervene as ICE agent in plain clothes points gun at woman=
The officer stopped when he saw a man exit one of the vehicles and point a firearm at the other driver, the agency said in a statement. He did not initially know the identity of the armed man, who was dressed in plain clothes and soon provided credentials showing he was an ICE agent.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/11/california-police-intervene-ice-agent

California Supreme Court strikes down warning on LAPD citizen complaint forms
The high court ruled 6-1 on Monday in favor of the city of Los Angeles and against the union that represents its police officers in finding that the admonishment describing penalties for filing false has the potential to deter “citizens from filing truthful (or at least not knowingly false) complaints of police misconduct”.
https://apnews.com/article/general-news-law-enforcement-california-los-angeles-courts-060a5d57d1aa8fb6fa79f3b8446382b6

Kansas county to pay more than $3m over police raiding local newspaper
A rural county in Kansas has agreed to pay out more than $3m and apologize over a raid by police on a small-town weekly newspaper in August 2023 that sparked a national outcry over press freedom, the paper’s editor said on Tuesday. Eric MeyePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

PFLP Makes Statement at the 34th Session of the Arab National Congress
We will not surrender. The struggle will continue until the liberation of Palestine, all of Palestine, the end of the zionist genocide regime, and the punishment of war criminals. The answer to brutality and genocide is not surrender, but more steadfastness and resistance. Despite the fires of genocide and the moaning of wounds, the message of Palestine remains present, from the Gaza of Dignity, West Bank, occupied interior, and Al-Quds, carrying the voice of our heroic prisoners, including the leader Comrade Ahmad Sa’adat, and the voice of the families of martyrs, the wounded, and the displaced, children and women, and those remaining steadfast in tents and shelters, or standing firm on the rubble of their homes. We meet at a pivotal historical moment when the attack on Palestine and the peoples of our nation intensifies, and our national responsibility to protect the nation’s identity and its liberation project grows, and we meet to renew the covenant on the will for struggle and resistance against the zionist enemy, which was, still is, and will remain an enemy of every Arab person, and against the war criminals and those who align with them.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/22535/

Cuba’s Role in Angola Changed the Course of African History
The end of Portuguese colonial rule in Angola fifty years ago was also the beginning of a Cuban military mission that had a major impact on the country’s history, beating back a South African invasion and denying Pretoria the opportunity to bring its local allies to power. It also left its mark on the region as a whole: Nelson Mandela credited the Cuban victory over the South African army in 1988 with hastening the fall of apartheid. When Cuba’s armed forces became openly involved in Angola in November 1975, there was a widespread assumption that Cuba was a Soviet “proxy.” Those who knew Cuba well argued that it was not that simple. They questioned whether it could really be described as a client state, and whether Moscow was really interested in becoming embroiled (indirectly) in the internal conflicts of Southern Africa. In due course, further research shifted attention away from an interpretation that owed much to the hegemonic Cold War perspective. It slowly became clear that CPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



 

I'm a PhD candidate who actually understands Hegel and has a grasp the broad history/development of left wing thought from Rousseau to Zizek. I'm sick today and remembered this place existed. If you are trying to get a better handle on theory of any kind and have questions on how to go about understanding something, go ahead. I imagine this makes me sound like an ass, but I promise that I'm being totally sincere
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You get any recommendation about the mathy formal stuff or is that out of your scope? Have you ever encountered anyone who claims that Cantor's diagonal argument is bullshit; or more dramatic yet, that the very concept of infinity in math is bullshit?

>>2554599
Yeah ain't my field of philosophy. More of a question for >>2553176 (who I still need to give a real response to)
I also wonder what he thinks of pic related. Haven't read it yet myself (getting extremely mixed reviews–from high praise to total rejection).

>>2553354
>>2553418
>>2553340
I've been listening to that podcast, has helped me quite a bit to understand, even just to form a basic understanding. As an aside, have listened to the guys discuss Marxism a little bit as well and heard McGowan express an idea I found interesting but don't know enough about to form a proper opinion. Do you agree with him, or rather, is it common for Hegelians to agree, that Marxism represents a rightward political shift from German Idealism?

>>2557526
*Sorry, from the left-wing political principles derived from Hegel. I think McGowan says in an episode on Zizek that Marx, in asserting that capitalism is the final contradiction, to be solved by communism, is aligning more closely with right wing politics which wants to ignore contradiction, rather than what he feels the more left-wing project is, which is to acknowledge and work within contradiction.

>>2557526
i dont think so. he and zizek are (very)good for learning hegel or at least dialectics as a method of analysis but terrible at politics really uninformed and basically support populist liberalism. if its the case that as anon says that lacan and freud mirror hegel that doesn't mean psychology overcomes politics but they kinda imply that it does, that issues arent really about class rule but about personal resentment and you should instead accept your station and recognize that there will always be a lack and you dont want what you think you want etc which is very convenient for a comfortable academic to say

>>2557531
>in asserting that capitalism is the final contradiction
i dont think this is an accurate representation of marx either



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This is a real position I hold. This isn't ironic or parody. I'll even explain wtf a Floyd Dollar is.
I for one take great pleasure in knowing how uncertain people are about their livelihood with EBT cuts. Mind you I'm not conservative, I'm well aware it effects many people young and old, it effects whites and blacks, it effects many who can't find a job even if they wanted too, and at the end of the day it's like 600usd a month and very curated. The reason they spend it at Mcdonalds is because McDonald's has sub contracts with the government to accept EBT but fresh produce does not. Meanwhile they blame the idiot with only 600usd in his name monthly as if he has fuck all influence over the process. He's just here to not die.

But y'all should die. I hate you… However, should you be alive. You should be alive and accelerating me to my perfect vision of no moderators. Part of that is the very crude, very blunt, dark woke language of the Floyd Dollar. I want the first thing these rudimentary assclowns to think of when they think of welfare, is for some fent addicted black man whose just belligerent to every living thing, to be down at the gas station getting the most malign of items possible. Sheeeeiiitttt.

Floyd Dollars would not cover food. Steal food. You'll never steal enough to warrant a felony unless you're my fat boomer parents. It takes a thousand dollars in theft to be a felony. You are not stealing a thousand dollars worth a food. Even if you stole every day, it would only be applicable to that day because of double Jeopardy. Just steal food God damn.

No, Floyd Dollars provide the real essentials. Alcohol, tobacco, guns, and lottery tickets. Maybe drugs too but weed is cucked and I've never met a based pothead. Maybe like heroin. My previous ex was a coke head. She wasn't AS BAD as the potheads just an annoying self-deluded whore. I don't know, but what I do know is I wanted George Floyd to have a gun to fightback against the cop who kneed his neck. So the new snap should cover his self autonomy to defend himself, as well as his self autonomy to not need my program hence he can buy lottery, and self autonomy to want to be alive because life is depressing hence alcohol and tobacco.

Counterstrike Skins and crypto might also be applicable to the Floyd Dollars. It's the same logistical end as why they should be able to get free lottery tickets.

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Truthfully we should just have vans delivering a box of food to every household every week but we live in a world of cruelty and pain so we can't have anything good unless we take it.

>>2557377
Preferably train over van, maybe a trolley. Rubber wheels are for spontaneous stuff, not routes.



 

Spartan society is unique and rare in slave societies through history. The majority of its society was made of slaves: 100 000 Helots, and only around 8000 Spartans. The question naturally arises: How comes the minority rule over the majority?

Humanity is facing a similar situation, power in the hands of a few thousands, yet billions of people can't free themselves. So the question remains: how comes the minority rule over the majority?

David Hume attempted to wisely answer such question:

"Nothing is more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than to see the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and to observe the implicit submission with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers.

When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded."

As such, to change society masses to change opinion. It is, therefore, political education the most important task of the revolutionary.
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>>2549932
>What's stopping me from turning around, taking the whip and whipping they instead?
The five other guys with guns watching you get whipped.
>Yes but police and soldiers are a minority. In the US especially people have easy access to weapons
yes but those cops have the technological infrastructure, the military grade gear, and the support of local government to enforce their might that is right.

>>2549932
>What's stopping me from turning around, taking the whip and whipping they instead?

The fear of getting whipped again. I don't care how tough you are, it won't take more than a few good licks on the bare back with a bullwhip or a birch switch to drive all those silly thoughts of rebellion out of your mind and make you realize what is actually most important to you in your life, which is to not get whipped again.

1. divide and conquer
- incentivize atomized, subservient behavior cooperative to occupation
- punish or remove the strong, charismatic, intelligent and outspoken
- this creates levels of privilege and misery, with the goal of not falling further down, and maybe being able to climb up. The outcome is controlled by the ruling class, putting them in charge of the actions of any rational and self-serving individual

2. supremacy ideology
- with the material foundation of drastic differences in living condition, convince both the ruling and ruled classes of fundamental differences that must cause this division. The rulers are superior and untouchable, the ruled are weak, stupid, and selfish
- the rulers see the condition of the oppressed as natural
- the ruled believe there's no way they could ever beat the rulers
- some ruled worship or want to become the rulers, despising their own class. It creates solidarity among the rulers and dissolves solidarity among the ruled

3. manipulating people with the effects of trauma
- use terror and deprivation on the ruled to make them obedient, make them grateful to barely (but at least) survive
- makes individuals less outgoing, therefore less likely to organize
- keep them only thinking about survival, and the easiest way to survive the next day is to obey and not do anything differently than before
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just 2 reasons really

1) Raw strength; the ruling class is obviously better equipped to militarily enforce their will land defend their interests, whereas proles literally have nothing and getting guns is hard

2) Ideology; as if the previous point weren't already enough, the majority of people nowadays absolutely love the system they live under (completely consciously and willingly) and are dumb enough to think its interests coincide with theirs. That's how you get people going around spewing constructive criticism of capitalism out of their mouths.

>>2547502
organization, discipline
why do you think communists are obsessed with those? because this is the source of power



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What's the real story behind the Soviet deportations during WW2 because even MLs say that it was a bad thing but that feels like capitulation that Stalin is as bad as the Nazis as it was an ethnic cleansing from how it's described by western liberal historians
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>>2556209
no they also did kill people 1975-1979 democratic kampuchea period

>>2557380
Never happened.

>>2557413
prove it never happen.
there are at the very least records at https://archives.tuolsleng.gov.kh/persons of tuol sleng (security center 21 during the regime) detainees, it has been proved that most are kill (either by torture until death or executed later, as there was no gain in keeping them alive)

Those were bourgeois nations and their removal was necessary to make living space for proletarian people of Russia.




 

*This is mainly targeted towards zoomers on TikTok

Practically all leftist "propaganda edits" have been filtered towards slop copies of whatever the far right has been doing for the past few years;

The right starts making little dark age edits with World War 2 movies? The left copies that, only changing it from the German sided perspective to the Soviet,

The right starts putting shitty statistics over nature scenarios with nightcore blasting through? The left copies it, only changing the statistic and adding a ushanka to the retarded greek statue reaction image,

The right starts doing Agartha/Hyperborea edits? The left copies it, only changing the symbolism from the Black Sun to Red Shambhala (And yes, I know the whole Red Shambhala thing is supposed to be a parody of that),

What the fuck are we doing in that department? Any suggestions?
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>>2557170
Shitpost that gets like 5 000 likes on tiktok isn't going to impede class consciousness lol

>>2548966
Don't listen to them,they are just out of touch rich city twig boys with savior complex

Why are weebs alive and continue to breathe air when it could go to better places?

By the way, this guy >>2548966 is a schizo tranarchist from some dead incel board with 10 posts per day (https://endchan.org/lgbt/res/13942.html this is his thread and he practically lives on /lgbt/ board) and the Vatnik meme was made by a pro-EU and Euromaidan Ukrainian who fell into irrelevance and tried to come back by dunking on SJWs, radfems and liblefts and his fanbase fucking hated that LAMAOO.

>>2548966
>the ratio between patriots and liberals was 50/50, probably now is around 60/40 or slightly worse
"patriots" 40, "liberals" 60 [since 2022]
reactionaries 100. all of them



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2556679
Хрущев лежал?

Russian left status? I don't know anything about whats going on over there. How cucked is it?

>>2556998
we are killing ourselves


>>2556998
Сейчас самый главный вопрос поддерживаешь ли ты Пыню и СВО, про срачи правых с левыми все уже давно забыли



 

Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?

No one believes he’s an actual socialist, however his victory will be the most important victory of the American left of the past 90 years. Why? Because it shows the Zionist Lobby has NO POWER compared to the power of the MASSES OF PEOPLE and we can defeat the satanic Zionist entity not with a violent revolution but simply with voting. Nobody believes Mamdani is a perfect candidate but that’s not the point.

So why aren’t we backing him en masse? His inevitable win will be the biggest blow to US-Zio imperialism in modern history.
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>>2555555
>>2555562
I’m starting to think “Zionist” means “anyone who doesn’t want to gun down Jews in the street” to these obvious glowies.

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A Red-Brown Alliance I can get behind


Democrats need to win a supermajority next year during midterms so they can change the Constitution so Mamdani can be POTUS.



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How did "dudebro" culture end up being sort of retconned as right wing? I was in a purple state college during Bush's second term and everyone loathed conservatives. We didn't even have the obligatory Ron Paul guy in 07-08.

It's so funny how ubiquitous the "you shouldn't have touched our bideo games!!" talking point has become. The culture around them, the coverage, G4, the magazines, all chock full of jokes at the expense of the right. Maybe this issue isn't deeply political, but it is deeply infuriating to see history rewritten.
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>>2557087
Ngl mate, but I think you might actually be retarded
People looking at entirely different societies and immediately reading their own society and way of life into it, and therefore naturalize their own different circumstances as actually universal and inevitable is the very definition of reification

>How is it reification when I assume patriarchy is “natural” by specifically only considering patriarchal societies, ignoring egalitarian ones, and intentionally ignoring all individual men and women in my own society and across history that do not conform to how “I” (my society) has defined “natural” (itself)


What I want to understand is if this level of fascist stupidity and lack of even basic logical inquiry is a consequence of being raised in the West or something that needs to be molded out of most people?

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>>2557115
One group that knew the stark challenge were the xenofeminists, hence the motto: "If nature is unjust, change nature!" It seems many would prefer to say nature was just and good, once upon a time, we just fell from grace and need to retvrn. Very Christian.

Feminists tried to discover matriarchal societies in the 60s and 70s but it was a dead end. The way Marx talked it doesn't sound like he's say capitalist societies even in the 19th century were patriarchal, he always seemed to say that capitalism swept away the feudal patriarchal family (where the patriarch had life and death authority), but it seems you and most feminists would disagree and say we still live in patriarchy, men still rule and build the world. Even in AES, women might "hold up half the sky" but they can't be half the Politburo.

As for egalitarian tribes, that's probably more complicated and was overstated by past research, see here for example:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349971177_Human_social_organization_during_the_Late_Pleistocene_Beyond_the_nomadic-egalitarian_model

The tl;dr being that in the past there was a mosaic of nomadic egalitarian/sedentary hierarchal tribes depending on local food sources, that tribes tend to be more egalitarian in harsher environments (e.g. what most tribes live in now, pushed to marginal lands by civilization), and that's why humans exhibit a mixed social strategy.

And as for some of these so-called egalitarian tribes, still pretty patriarchal:

https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2018/1/31/on-secret-cults-and-male-dominance

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>"dudebro" culture
>2007-08
have you seen the infamous 2007 VH1 special about Wall Street guys like Jeffrey Epstein? Historical materialism explains this neoliberal grindset culture that has now been universalized to every opportunist wannabee-kulak Andrew Tate fanboy. Karl Marx's controversial essay on how everyone will be a "huckster Jew finance bro" after capitalism has proletarianized every ethnic group was proven correct:

twitter link https://xcancel.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1965400559634317790#m

also I found this 2007 post in a college forum thread in the Business Major subforum, where liberals explicitly talk about their envy of finance imperialists
https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/fabulous-life-of-billion-dollar-wall-street-ballers/369442
>Think stars are having all of the fun? Think again. These days nobody's making more and spending more than the buttoned-down badasses of Wall Street. From their sprawling estates and tricked-out private yachts to exotic vacation homes and multi-million dollar art collections– these guys are living larger than anyone else on the planet. Welcome to The Fabulous Life of Billion Dollar Wall Street Ballers Let's talk salaries people. Hedge Fund King Steven Cohen pulled in $1 billion in 2006. Financier Edward Lampert? He raked in $1.5 billion. That's right…in just one year. And you'd better believe these guys know how to spend their hard earned money too…especially when it comes to real estate.
<Billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein? He lives in the absolute largest dwelling in all of Manhattan, a 51,000-sq-ft palace on E. 71st street.
>Eddie Lampert paid over $20 million for a magnificent waterfront property in Greenwich, CT…only to tear it down and rebuild. But of all the Wall Street spenders around, absolutely nobody can outdo Steven Cohen. He's got a 32,000-sq-ft Greenwich home complete with massage, exercise and media rooms, plus a full-size basketball court, tennis court, ice-skating rink and even a 700-square-foot house just for his Zamboni. CohePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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it's what happens when you try to make a culture that surrounds or even overlaps with Call of Duty, American Exceptionalism and post 9/11 economics.

it's been brewing since the first gen-z'ers were born
capitalism will take everything you enjoy and turn it to shit

>>2557115
Can you show even one egalitarian society from the past? One society where men and women acted in a wholly different way from men and women of 2020s?
>inb4 some tribe of 50 people from Central Congo basin



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What's the best way to convince anarchists that power and hierarchy aren't inherently bad?

Anarkids act like they understand theory and sociology better than Marxists do. They love getting on their moral high horse by calling everything "oppression". Yet when you actually pick apart their arguments you'll see that they're full of hot air 95% of the time. They talk a good deal about intersectionality and anti-oppression, but when pressed on how to abolish those oppressive structures in society they have no clue.

Marxism, OTOH, is scientific. We understand that political power is necessary to reshape society. We also understand that hierarchies need to exist until we reach the stage of communism, and even then you will still see things like hierarchies of intelligence, talent, beauty, strength, and so on that can't simply be abolished through idealist methods.

But how do you explain this without looking like you're making apologia for oppression? I've tried the Hegelian way of simply saying "the real is rational" but that doesn't get through anarkids' heads very well.
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>>2547368
He needs to find a magic way where communism means the total subjugation of proletarians and the extraction of surplus value through the political machinery of the state rather than letting go of the sort of sentimentalism that forces him to argue that the red on the flag equals the blood wrenched out of workers

Anarchism is childish

>>2547318
>revolutionary abolition of capitalism
i wonder what marx would think the material premise for such abolition might be and if that effects the analysis of backwards underdeveloped states in any way

>>2547384
>>2547315
that is essentially what a dtop under conditions of underdevelopment is. whether you call that communism in the sense of the real movement or not communism in the sense of not having achieved a particular state of affairs is kind of a subjective distinction. we wont know till the owl takes flight since communism isnt a theory divorced from reality but the result of practice

if you're ever at a point where you have to morally justifying something you're on the wrong track. If you want to properly critique then you have to rid your analysis of any arguments which appeal to morality/morals. That's why MLs are just as bad as anarchists at critique, they bothe engage in moral discussion.



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