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Der Marxismus und der auf ihm fußende historische Materialismus reduzieren Geographie und Ethnographie der verschiedenen Völker auf die einfache und bequeme Zweiteilung in Proletariat und Bürgertum. Der Bürgerliche ist 'bourgeois', d. h. der Feind. Der Marxismus ächtet die Klasse der Bürger und schafft einen Zustand permanenter Feindschaft zwischen Proletariern und Bürgerlichen.

>>2768833

>Der Marxismus ächtet die Klasse der Bürger und schafft einen Zustand permanenter Feindschaft zwischen Proletariern und Bürgerlichen.


Genau, das ist ja auch das Ziel.

>Geographie und Ethnographie der verschiedenen Völker

Wenn man Rassismus einfach ein bisschen hübscher und akademischer klingen lassen will, lmao.

>>2768883
Maschallah

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>>2768833
Sehr schön.

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>>2768833
Sieg heil, Kamerad!



 

Israeli Abrahamics, if a theft of semen is stolen and spotted (a system foreign to the famous "Mordred" is used, the trap of the father or mother matching as hand gesture moved; "A Knight's tale"), will be conduced to hunt their own families by the proper Ismaelis; God's Chosen, Ismael, not God's Favorite, Isaac; the Polander Aryan Brotherhood (American History X, the foundation of the World War 2 National Socialist movement among others).

This is performed simply; the entire registry of patents is identified, and a child will be raised as a particular Catholic clergy's philosophy to target the enemy political alliance through necessity of most public trade relation; however through the non-Ismaeli parent having been a victim of anal sodomey from a male, male or female; the common tracker of "Arabic", the tell-tale signature of the enemy; not "Urdu", the language of any court in carpentry; Parochial school for an Islamic Catholic, not taught Lotus as a child due to parents equivocating in Hebrew linguistics at having placed someone in opiates confinement; the Roman, African, or Chinese Empires.

Let's go over the list of slain figures.

Samson (the women's lingerie, as the men's thong, for sword fighting).

Alexander the Great (the labor patent, as mass draft, per pensioner elder's children and family).

Scipio Africanus (the sugar reed market, a plantation, out of the sizes of the white man's versus black woman's buttocks, wealth and poverty out of the front gusset sitting fetish).

Jesus Christ (the paternity suit, as the Old Testament, the Bible in any copy; the fraud of self into New Testament, a post-arrest police family execution at declaration of self as Jordanian-Arab bride in men's gender).

John Wilkes Booth (the haberdasher's class, or other tailor, per contact by British intelligence forces to kill First Lady; hence the switch, contract hired, to the pay per grievance of contract; and if crossed, then both, otherwise, spouse switched either way).
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USAtanists! We don't want you on this board! We don't want you on your stolen land! We don't care what class you think you are! We don't care what you think your "relation to the means of production" is! Your entire country was founded on rape, genocide, slavery, betrayal of treaties, wars of annexation, etc. You were imperialists before you came under the influence of Zionism, and you will remain imperialist after every last Zionist, man, woman, and child, is turned to ashes for their crimes. Truth be told you didn't come under the influence of zionism, you were the influence for Zionism AND Nazism. Manifest Destiny is Lebensraum. Manifest Destiny is Greater Israel. Your puritan ancestors were the original zionists. And I don't care if you're African-American and your ancestors were brought over as a slave. You have been a collaborator since the Civil War, and even more of a collaborator since the Civil Rights Movement. You have never fought for indigenous sovereignty, only for equality with your former masters. And I definitely don't care if you came Europe after the civil war. You are still guilty. Moving to America after the Genocide was finished and Slavery ended, is like moving to Israel for the kibbutz right now. You let others do the crimes so you could benefit. You are just a more cowardly than average settler. Total Settleroid Death. I don't want you to go back home. I want you to die. Do you understand? There is no convincing me that you are a class ally or even a decent human being. Your individual characteristics do not matter. Only liberals believe in individualism, trial by jury of peers, presumption of innocence, etc. Communists understand that entire populations of people, especially settleroids, can be guilty from birth. Including the children. Stop hiding behind your anchor babies, settleroids. I don't want your "reparations" anymore. Just kill yourself painlessly now with a bullet, a rope, or a long fall, and save yourself from the righteous torture of my cadres. There is no peace treaty. You don't get to become the good guy in the third act. I don't care if you betray the empire starting now. You won't be spared. There is literally nothing you can do to change my mind about you. Even if you kill yourself I will still piss and shit on your corpse given the chance. You deserve to be raped and tortured but you have the opportunity to spare yourself by suicide. But we will never ever ever remember you as anything less than collectively guiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.(American derangement syndrome)
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>>2770045
>races of people
not him or OP but why'd you flair yourself as confederate, praise a slaveowner founding father, and bring race into it? Are you OP false flagging? I couldn't imagine a better series of posts designed to feed OP.

>>2770045
>You are making five thousand unfounded assumptions about my politics
OMG I'm so sorry your majesty!
>You have no praxis, no plan to radicalize constructively, no plan to awaken the American Proletariat
Do you? If you do go do that then, I wish you good luck.

>>2770167
Because I'm a Southerner and I like the flag and believe it represents resistance to Federal Tyranny, sue me ig. Nah, I'm not OP. Believe that or not, idk.
>>2770183
You could do what the Alt-Right did, actually try to reach out to in order to educate and radicalize people instead of impugning them with some Marxist version of original sin - that'd probably be a good start.

>>2770211
>You could do
I don't live in Epsteinland, stop trying to outsource your job of "awakening the american proletariat" to me, yank
>what the Alt-Right did
Redirect discontent against the system right back into the uniparty plantation? There is already an army of right wing and left wing influencers on that job, not sure why you want even more people dickriding the uniparty, but as I said in my first reply to you its not surprising.

>>2770263
I don't know where the fuck you live, dude. But most of this board seems to be Americans. It's a safe assumption to make.
>Redirect discontent against the system right back into the uniparty plantation?
For the record this sort of trend is exactly why many people like me have eventually abandoned this camp. We wanted to be actual revolutionaries, overturn the system and create something good for our people. Instead what kept happening was we kept getting told to, "trust the plan," et al. In spite of being in many of these groups, not once did I ever vote for DJT. I never trusted it, but at the time and being much younger I could not fathom ever standing with Leftists when generally my perception of them was, "Kill Whitey," and none of them gave a shit about anything related to the plight of the Working Class.



 

Recently saw a discussion in regards to "Third Worldism" as in MLM + unequal exchange (a non-Wallerstinian branch of world systems theory) having grown in influence in the anglophone/western, largely online, "communist" spaces.
Here is my dialectical engagement, as they were on to something important, not usually recognized, but also partially incorrect. I attempt to correct it ITT.

Unequal exchange, Mao/Chinese aesthetics and purely performative MLM rhetoric has grown in recent years… But with time comes change.

The original 90s ThirdWorldism "movement", centered in north-america diverged from MLM on a variety of theoretical issues, most crucially the revolutionary nature of the proletariat. They supplemented their divergence with integrating post-Marxist turns happening in word-systems theory (which was ongoing in western academia between the 80s and 90s). As ""Maoism" ThirdWorldism" largely accomplished nothing, other than maybe increasing confusion in the communist movement during the era of blackest reaction, we mostly remember them by their cartoony writing and online media available through archives from that era.

So if 90s Third Worldism was a north-american revisionist offshoot from MLM which integrated non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and rejecting revolution in the imperial core for rhetorical "support" of [far off, peripheral countries]… What are the particularities of the contemporary expression?

2020s Third Worldism can be observed as being a north-american right-wing revisionist movement which retains both the non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and the purely symbolic appeals to Mao, but now replacing the "MLM" pretender framing for the simpler, safer state ideology of social-imperialist China; that also just so happens to feign adherence to 'Mao Zedong Thought', even after it was systematically replaced with the Bukharinist-Dengist capitulationist counterrevolution. which is continued today, the true basis for Xi Jinping Thought, as the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist heading the political line of the party has only deepened the cementation of a new pole in the capitalist imperialist world system since Deng, when neither as many NEZ, stock markets, overall % of bourgeois in the party or billionaires existed in China. Mao Zedong Thought lives on in the rural and urban areas of any militant area of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2767262
Even if you "run out of work to do" (lol), you'd want to reduce the workday across the board instead of creating a class of parasites

This is just equivalrnt to saying "the work beyond the official workday is beyond our current capacity to plan for, so go nuts and find new work on your own"

>>2767262
>>2767356
I place it more down to structural issues leading to the reserve army of labor such as the anarchy of production. Over-accumulation leads to wasted work for some and unemployment for others. Small businesses are extremely inefficient in part because they have to do the same HR work every other business has to do. But you can't simply legislate away the greater and greater managerial work caused by the anarchy of production. Socialism in one country will inevitably lead to a massive contradiction between the socialist and capitalist bloc. It's a confusing technical issue tied to the town-country contradiction which I hope telework and other communications innovations will help solve. Nonetheless, I believe the centralized administration of employment by the state is a step forward.

>>2767356
>yeah so we're going to need you working 30 minutes monday,two hours tuesday etc etc
the statements of the utterly deranged

>>2767315
Are there any blogs that have historicised this being the case via archival methods or something similar? Or is it able to be unearthed through links to SA archives? Wasn't a SA user but considering it was very internet-centric this doesnt sound too unlikely. Would need some sort of proof of the connective tissue to counter-pose to the emergence of the M3W """orgs""" like MIM, IRTR, LLCO, etc.

>>2767251
invasive plant species mean no more "bullshit jobs",mechanical removal with lawn equipment of phragmites and kudzu alone would end unemployment.



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Ukkkraine won. Zisterland lost.

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when you scrap the bottom of the barrel, because you are winning.

>>2768986
>Rampant busification and recruitoors getting murdered on the reg, but err, Russia is also struggling
So what’s the point of even discussing Ukraine’s woes if they’re going to downplay the importance of said woes by chucking in a “also Russia has the same problem”? The takeaway will always therefore be “Ukraine can take it, Russia can’t, victory is assured”.

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>Gets deported from the US back to Ukraine and immediately mobilised
>But it’s a feel good story because he’s given the westerner’s dream job of FPV drone operator
<Clearly operating out of a civilian van in an urban street
It must be literally impossible to find images in Ukraine that doesn’t involve either evidence of a war crime or neo-nazism. I can’t imagine such images are still distributed by mistake by unaware western news outlets or for the lols by Ukrainians when they watch said outlets scramble to explain away depictions of war crimes and Nazi iconography as rare occurrences of Ukrainian cheekiness whom otherwise fight cleanly for liberal democracy.

Shariy says hezbollah has taken hold of ukrainian drones brought to the middle east and is reverse engineering them. Not sure how he would know that, but wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.



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got bored so made a tyler robinson reaction gif

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cookie: the final frontier

>>2765989
You drew El Comandante well Anon

someone please draw a stalin sucking up all the food version of the sandy cheeks cock vore image this is really important i swear

>>2767827
……WUT



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>Previous Bake
>>2765370

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>>2768924
Brian Berletic. Just watch his videos.

Winningest

>>2768962
we are such a cucked country
if a french politician said that shit he'd be under a guillotine in five seconds

>>2768924
the various rand corps reports and analysis. They're ez to find, they're a pretty influential (meaning the US seems to be following most of their plans to the letter) neocon think thank strategizing for maintaining the US global hegemony

>>2768964
That's the problem, there wasn't a Robespierre over there



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Thoughts on analytical Marxism?
It seems good cuz it uses no hegelian metaphysical bullshit, but uses methodological individualism instead of this which is cool. Like, it makes it easy to understand and logically invincible.

>revisionism

Why not?

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>>2763482
>>2763495
>Duuuuude, are you fucking serious?
are you? you keep asking stupid fucking questions that could be answered with a quick google

>>2763719
Wiki is a cia lies source

marxism has no need for philosophies, marxism is anti-philosophical

>>2768623
Every anti-philosopher was a philosopher. Science is natural philosophy. Logic is philosophy. Organization of thought is philosophy.

Sorry, bub, many tried, but you can't excape it.

Philosophy is here to stay.




 

What is happening sociologically when radlib Leftoids in circles stuffed with permagrads endlessly go on about muh 'Strasserism' or 'NazBols'? Here's an answer that may be a bitter pill for some of you, because the Left rarely likes to use its own tools of class analyses on itself

https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/on-strasserism-and-the-decay-of-the-left/
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>>2755464
>the idea that identity politics repels "workers" has also proven fallacious. on the contrary, people love identity politics. those put off by identity politics of the liberal left generally find themselves comfortable with the identity politics of the right. those incensed that you're proud to be black are usually themselves proud to be white, or at least, wish to be told that they should be proud to be white.
I wouldn't say the argument is that identity politics is necessarily repellent to workers as individuals, though. Racial pride is obviously "attractive" for some in some sense and not always for the same reasons, but having people organized in terms of identity (as the Black Pride Socialist League, the White Pride Communist Front, etc.) seems counterproductive to collective worker organization and joint action. Really, it sounds like a recipe for toxicity and rancor.

Of course, the example is extreme, but just because people might be attracted to identity politics doesn't say anything about its place in socialism. I don't find the "tu quoque" argument (and bare assertion) of "well, you must support right-wing idpol if you don't like it" very convincing either.

>what such an outlook really shows is that the left is alienated from "workers" for a different reason: because it imagines a certain fixed image of a worker, in his hard hat, at his factory. a starbucks barista on minimum wage? she's not a worker, she's just some middle class woman. what's she going to do? anyway, we should find positions that repel her and attract the bloke in the hard hat.

I've heard this argument off and on for a number of years, but if this sort of "narrow" view of workers had a significant following and a substantial effect on the left in aggregate (I don't think so myself), you'd think that other groups with different views would have had extensive growth and led to a revival of the left at some point in the past decade, but no such thing has happened.

The alienation of the left from workers is more likely related to the general decline of political party participation, even though political stances have become increasingly central to how people identify themselves.


>>2765394
I actually completely wrote a whole big thesis but the janny feds deleted it I swear to God.

>>2749726
I actually agree with a lot of this. Did you write it? But there are some key differences.

1: The right does it too. There's the class you claim to be, the class people see you as, and the class you act upon and internally recognize yourself as. If you actually care about any of this; you are not proletariat. You're petty bourgeois middle class. Third worldists are right about that. What they're not right about is how this interacts with such people.

Most aren't willing to admit leftism is synopsis with nihilism. For me to care about stability, I have to have class interest in that stability. That's why liberals can speak all day long about building cheap housing for inner city folks, and it means nothing. Cheapening goods and services means nothing. You think I care about any of that? Why do you unless you have a vested interest in it?

Let's take for example ice. Ice is le'bad. Just grabbing Latinx and throwing them in vans. Bad stuff. Ok…and? Lots of things are bad. Bad stuff happens to me every day. Why is it my responsibility to care? Because I'm a good person? Why is it my responsibility to be a good person?

It isn't. It's bullshit the other class interests invented. And you acknowledge this and think it means I want them out of my country. I don't as see…that's also not in my class interests. The contradiction of capital is some need those Latinx around working for cheap, others see them as an existential threat. The only thing I see is how upset the situation makes people when I'm not the one working, I'm not the one having sex with some 6/10 Mexicana Trotskyist named Pumfee, I'm not the one who is getting shit out of this. In essence I am the real proletariat and for me this just looks like a purple haired woke gorilla rubbing herself up against an ice agent molesting him and it's all very funny, but ultimately just distraction.

The fact of the matter is, if either side got it's way, my life does not significantly change. The only real leftist position is hoping the lights go out. No hospital care, no food in grocery stores, no gas to drive with, no hope left. Everyone is dead or just wishes they were dead. If that physically repulses you, you have petty bourgeois vested interests.

>>2765371
>you'd think that other groups with different views would have had extensive growth and led to a revival of the left at some point in the past decade, but no such thing has happened.
the group in question is the actually-existing left outside /leftypol/ and a handful of cult parties and boomers. blue haired starbucks union member furries who proclaim a belief in a nebulously defined socialism.



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>>2768468
the problem with mmt is that capital can just stop lending to you or inflate prices as much as it wants in protest to pro-worker spending. for mmt to be successful you'd basically need a socialist revolution and at that point there's no real argument for money in the first place

>>2768584
Lending is ultimately what drives asset prices. The trick for capitalists is to artificially inflate asset prices through excessive lending while maintaining the stability of financial institutions. If you do that on asset classes like property you can force generations in to debt servitude.

>>2768586
>you can force generations in to debt servitude
nothing matters so long as worker replacement through birthrates remains negative globally. capitalism would last for thousands of years if populations of countries actually grew over time, so not having kids is the most revolutionary action an individual can make

>>2768869
True and based, just havibg 1 kid would be enough

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