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The specter of Ultraleftism. All the powers of old Leftypol have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this specter; Ziggers and Dengists, Anarchists and Stalinists, MAGAComs and Third-worldists.
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>>2586044
You're replying to chauvinists who won't even question Stalin's alliance with western imperialism in WW2, let alone reject capital's attempt to distance itself from fascism.

>>2586065
>everyone is a capitalist except fascists
Amazing theory.

>>2586044
The only one getting triggered here is you. I know the "long live the butcher Hitler" quote was most likely just Bordiga covering his ass while living under ᴉuᴉlossnW's rule. I called him the "first zigger" as a joke. I personally view Bordiga the same way I view Trotsky. Their theoretical works made some salient points and did some based things. But their self proclaimed followers are the biggest retards imaginable. You people are so invested in this supposed struggle against "MLoid falsifiers" that only exists online. You're not going up to PSL meetings IRL to confront their supposed revisionism. This "struggle" solely consists of seething at people who like Stalin and Mao online, smugly deriding opponents of Israeli atrocities as "moralists", hand wringing about Third Worldism, and getting groomed by O9A. At least retarded Gonzaloists had the balls to disrupt a DSA meeting that one time.

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>>2584576
Redditards coming in to seethe isn't a specter, and not a haunting. In fact, it's the complete reverse - the specter of Third Worldism haunts the West and the Western pseudo-left. Just look at Josep Borrell, a member of the Spanish "Socialist" ""Workers'"" Party.

>>2586179
Hello I'm a brown third worlder and the spector of western third worldism (critically supporting the bourgeois boot on my neck) haunts me


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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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Recently watched this video about how Ashkenazi Jews are actually just European converts and aren't Indigenous to the Middle East, It's a trend I've noticed a lot where Western liberals think most Israeli's are just Ashkenazi and the Mihrazi are just a downtrodden minority, In reality, the Mizrahi are among the most conservative right-wing factions within Israel. The most bizarre part was even states that the story of Jewish slavery in Egypt isn’t true, which while true is a bizarre statement to make while making a video trying to defend Muslims, does she genuinely not know that story is also a fundamental part in Islam?

>>2586108
the koran doesn't have to be true for muslims to deserve life, dipshit.

>>2585668
I wonder if hamas regrets letting this one live. Not like that makes a difference but still. Pissrael is one sick society.

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>>2586108
Yea. Read Shlomo Sand. You will appreciate it!
Fdpd

>>2586108
>The most bizarre part was even states that the story of Jewish slavery in Egypt isn’t true
Of course it isn't true, btw, all that jazz predates Judaism, just a schizo zionist talking point with no basis in reality.


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Nation of Cults Edition

>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.

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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2586155
>>2586146
if you think they're more relevant than everyone else you might be terminally online or just shilling them with slightly more subtlety now that the irrefutable reactionary nature of their grifter streamer leadership has been elaborated upon multiple times

>>2586159
>Make unsubstantiated claims
>Prefix them with "objectively" or "material"
That's pretty much the crux of what passes for argumentation or analysis on here.

It's a goddamn shame because the whole point of dialectical materialism is to avoid the kind of vibes based assertions of shit like "The Protestant Work Ethic" and grounding political thought in reality. Instead it's used by a few as window dressing for the same vibe based assumptions.

>>2586166
>>2586167
Y'know what fucking blows my mind is the ACP will make bizarre exclamations
>"Gays are naturally imperialist"
>"America is some authoritarian collectivist Eurasianist state"
They'll proclaim themselves "MAGA Communists" and you'll get absolutely childish people here saying "Erm, they're objectively to the left of the CPUSA".

I think this boils down to people not even in leftist orgs trying to dictate what the wider movement "should look like"

>>2586172
It like… HAS to be solely keyboard warrior shit, right? How much of this even happens irl? Is this just another permutation of the "marketplace of ideas"?

>>2586174
Yknow I think an awful lot about what an older comrade once told me, which amounted to: "The most radical thing you can say doesn't necessarily mean the most radical thing you can do.." I'd say people who aren't in parties but consider themselves "Marxist-Leninists" are attracted more to the aesthetic of politics than actual politics.

And the ACP is a great source of aesthetics for them, they're throwing their logo on everything, they're waving their flags around, its a full social media blitz. Most importantly they always swagger about like they're "winning" and act like every tiny advance is a huge momentum shifting victory.

It's great for people who are more concerned with vibes I'd say.

>>2586100
cheers


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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2585127
You be cloppin?

>>2584892
le ornage man bad

>>2585751
Huge assumptions here. Russia-Ukraine conflict is more important for anti-imperialism than Palestine.

>>2586046
it might be more important for ending US hedgemony but its nowhere near as blatant and obvious as Israel.

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>>2585997
Orange retard is a liberal. Liberals bad.


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what do you guys think of the red shambala trend on tiktok?
i for one really like it and think its funny but it is kinda copying the whole 'agartha' thing and i think leftist shouldnt just copy whatever the right does
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>>2553798
>memecommunists on tiktok
who gives a fuck about the politically inert?

>>2565089

children usually tend to grow up

>>2565093
>memecommunists are only children
lol just look at this place

>>2565099

I rather not know the answer to that tbh

>>2556055
Why specifically the song Down Under? Is it because it's by "Men At Work?


 

Post news on Luigi Mangione and his clones. The bourgeoisie press gags any prole propaganda. Post the proles and lumpens raw-dogging the bourgeoisie and labor aristocracy into a bloody pulp.

<Death to the managers, the labor-traitors, the smug enforcers, the gatekeepers of capital. Death to the think-piece left, the conference-circuit radicals, the union bureaucrats selling out
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>>2570834
sneed

Left-wing terrorism is back on the menu. Columbine created a generation of school shooters, the Christchurch shooting was part of a pattern of white nationalist terror. If the same disaffected young men eager to throw their life away see that the rich and powerful could be valid targets—and worse yet, be praised by the people for it—then they may switch targets.

>>2570829
The American Dream

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>>2570821 (OP)
Fuck off, Luigi was with me and the guy they got they accused of killing those zionists. Not even in the country. We were watching movies. all were fit up to cover for police incompetence..



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South Yemen secessionists, supported by the UAE, are crushing the Saudi puppet state and took over most of the cities in the Southern part of the country, also taking control of the Oman-Yemen border. But the Southern Transitional Council isn't communist like was South Yemen, and fully supports the Palestinian genocide:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/us/2025/09/24/southern-independence-opens-door-to-ties-with-israel-says-yemens-al-zubaidi/

>Transitional Council chief says Abraham Accords will be key to stability after Gaza war
Declaring an independent southern Yemeni state would pave the way for entering the Abraham Accords, the deputy chairman of Yemen's Presidential Council Aidarous Al Zubaidi told The National in an interview.

>The president of the Southern Transitional Council said all the conditions were in place for statehood and added that secession would allow the south to make its own foreign policy decisions, including the option of joining the Abraham Accords.

>“Before the events in Gaza, we were advancing towards joining the Abraham Accords,” he said. “If Gaza and Palestine regain their rights, the Accords will be essential for stability in the region. When we have our southern state, we will make our own decisions and I believe we will be part of these accords.”

>Yemen's eight-member Presidential Council leads the anti-Houthi, internationally recognised government in exile in Aden. The secessionist Southern Transitional Council holds three of those eight seats.

>Mr Al Zubaidi framed independence not just as a local aspiration but as part of a wider commitment to stability in the region. “We support the two-state solution – a Yemeni state in the north and in the south – and a Palestinian state alongside Israel,” he said. “Self-determination is a right. All people have the right to determine their future.”
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is it 'coincidence' that UAE is involved in creating a South Arabia state. involved in Somalia (Puntland) Somaliland, Sudan, and has a base in Eritrea?

>>2585966
Is it a coincidence that Russia, China, Qatar and Iran are also involved in raping Sudan? Must be the Jews again

>>2585966
read this and linked articles
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-yemen-somalia-circle-bases-control-gulf-of-aden
>>2585980
kill yourself for making shit up

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UAE influencers don't even hide it

>>2586019
Now show the tweet it was replying to :^)


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What's the critique from the left on George Soros? I know he's been involved in a hell of a lot of anti-Communist regime-change activities but not the details.
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>>2585839
hes literally a cia asset

>>2585848
State assets are bourgeoisie tools in a bourgeoisie dictatorship. In USA there is facade of independent institutions while in Russia FSB is the bourgeoisie. They call FSB officers the new aristocracy.

>>2585839
He is a capitalist.

he represents an internal contradiction on the right - he is a staunch anti-communist attempting realise popper's "open society" to globalise american hegemony - yet the pro-capitalist right hate him (because he's a jew or something).

>>2585839
real knowers understand people like soros are ultimately helpful to communism


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>After destruction commences, the masses are going to emerge in all countries – in a short time, in a few hours. Capitalism cannot defend itself in an atomic war except by putting itself in caves and attempting to destroy all that it can. The masses, in contrast, are going to come out, will have to come out, because it is the only way to survive, defeating the enemy… The apparatus of capitalism, police, army, will not be able to resist… It will be necessary to organise the workers' power immediately

>One of the best-known positions of J. Posadas was his enthusiasm for nuclear war. More precisely, at the height of the Cold War, Posadas thought that nuclear war was inevitable. His idea was that rather than wait for the forces of capitalism, the nuclear-armed socialist states should launch a preemptive attack that would destroy the nuclear capabilities of capitalist countries. Additionally, he believed that this sort of catastrophe could spark the world revolution
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>>2580089
Apparently Posadas never heard of radiation and nuclear winter

>>2580116
>radiation
cures CO2 pollution
>nuclear winter
reverses global warming

>>2580116
Most areas not directly hit by nukes would not have radiation levels high enough to be a direct threat beyond way higher cancer rates in the future, and most hit areas would go back to safer levels after 2 months. From his point of view nuclear winter would force the remaining humans to band together because they would be forced too in a post nuclear world for survival, because the only other option would be death. Though I don't understand how he thinks it would result in socialist communities forming after when I think things would just return to feudalism instead at that point.

>>2580089
Destroying the productive forces is something the capitalists do 🙄.
Communists support the development of the productive forces.

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>>2580364
Capitalists' fault for imbuding their mode of production into literally every facet of society, They literally left us no other option. The world will be debased and scoured as the losers claim their prize.


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If the proletariat is the historic subject then why are proletarians useless retards while most great socialist figures were not proletarian themselves, i.e. didn’t produce surplus labor value.

<Karl Marx
>Son of a lawyer
>Journalist, philosopher, political economist

<Friedrich Engels
>Part-owner of textile mills
>Factory manager

<Vladimir Lenin
>Son of a noble-rank civil servant
>Lawyer and professional revolutionary

<Leon Trotsky
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>>2579981
>>2579840
Mods ban these falsifiers NOW!

>>2580844
The mods are falsifiers howeverbeit

>>2580605
The sad thing is that if you read marx its pretty clear he’s commenting on the revolutionary and militant working class movements that existed a long time before he ever entered politics and which all of european society was being forced to respond to

>>2579840
>>2579840
>Working class and proletariat do not mean exactly the same.
Nationalist, retard

>>2579375
>>2580605
>>2585598
IMO the simple answer is that the bourgeoisie were still largely historically progressive at the time. Marx was a visionary but the transition from the bourgeoisie to the proletariat as the revolutionary subject was a process that has taken much longer than Marx expected. I think that today the proletariat are the revolutionary subject much more than they were in the past.


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