/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Maoism is just personality cult third world nationalism. For that reason it was very popular in the 60s but is probably never coming back.

>>2796794

The proposition is ahistorical, idealist, and reeks of the liberal bourgeoisie's inability to comprehend the dialectic of national liberation. To reduce the history of Maoism to a "personality cult" is to mistake the surface appearance (the veneration of a revolutionary leader by the masses who liberated themselves) for the essence (the concrete application of Marxism–Leninism to the semi‑feudal, semi‑colonial conditions of China). The Maoist era was not a cult of personality of nationalism. It was an era of expelled imperialism and laid the material foundation for anti-colonialism / anti settler colonialism becoming the leftist standard of today. The "third world nationalism" epithet is a slur deployed by the imperial core to dismiss any anti‑imperialist struggle that refuses to bow to the will of western forces who attack sovereignty

The claim that Maoism "is probably never coming back" confuses the contingency of historical conjunctures with the permanence of contradictions. The conditions that produced Maoism semi‑colonial exploitation, feudal remnants, the necessity of agrarian revolution have not vanished from the globe; they have merely shifted. The oppressed nations of the Global South, including the Black and Indigenous internal colonies of the settler state, continue to face the same essential contradiction, imperialism and its comprador allies. As long as that contradiction exists, the strategic lessons of Maoism will be found in the voices and praxis of today's left.

The dialectical unity of revolutionary currents Maoist, nihilist, anarcho communist insurrectionist, is not an eclectic pastiche but a materialist synthesis. Each contains partial truths to be found. Maoism teaches protracted struggle and mass line; nihilism strips away bourgeois spooks, and passivity, and encourages negation of anti-materialism; anarchism hones the art of autonomous action. People like us do not discard these lessons; we absorb, refine, and apply them according to the concrete conditions of the moments in places and time we find ourselves in. A true revolutionary does not fetishize labels but seizes what is useful, discards what is weak, and forges a living weapon in their mind.

That the mainstream western left has abandoned all revolutionary thought for electoral tailism and NGO careerism is not evidencPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Is maoism completely dead?
Yes, and it should be. Outside of Africa there are no longer are any countries where it would be applicable.

>>2796164
maoism is from latin america
>>2796166
correct
>>2796168
read this thread since you didn't know the diff:

>>>/leftypol/2767836

>>2796938
>The "third world nationalism" epithet is a slur deployed by the imperial core to dismiss any anti‑imperialist struggle that refuses to bow to the will of western forces who attack sovereignty
Except when it's an accurate critique of the limitations of inherently succdem left-nationalist opportunism which more often than not serves the interests of the national bourgeoisie and petty bourgeois clans while throwing the proles and lumpens under the bus.

>>2795394
>Israel-Palestine has nothing to do with race.

it quite obviously has a huge amount to do with race, just maybe not exactly as americans understand race

>>2795394
>Israel-Palestine is fundamentally about nationality AKA competing nationalisms

ok, why are arab-israelis still treated like dogshit even if they have citizenship? they literally aren't allowed to marry a jew

>>2795394
Psued take. Palestinians/arabs are absolutely racialized by israel.

>>2796704
Because of competing nationalisms. Palestinians are not a race and Jews are not a race. Israeli marriage laws are actually based on Ottoman marriage laws.

>>2796701
>>2796706
Most Israeli Jews are the same colour as most Palestinians. This conflict is mostly brown-on-brown violence.

>>2794015
That link no longer works but I remember that image and I remember it working at some point.

>>2794022
it works fine, you're bad at typing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoQ5uLK4fI

>>2794023
Oh true, thank you.

>>2794015
They were already running ads like vidrel for asbestos before and after 9/11, the market was already prepared to make a profit off of asbestos victims

>>2793983
DISCLAIMER: I hate AmeriKKKa to an insane extent
I don't think this is that accurate given that most who died probably supported US imperialism and deserved it. I do not, however, see 9/11 as a positive event because it also killed many innocent people.

>>2795866
>decisions have to be planned by rationality and reason not by popularity.
Humans are not rational agents. And indeed, society is such a large organism that it is impossible for society to collectively plan production without competing interests existing. We've seen the 20th century play out, we know a rationally planned economy is not possible.
I think it would be better for producers and consumers to work out their interests and plan locally according to their needs, but I don't think a planned, centralized communist society is possible.

>>2796793
>we know a rationally planned economy is not possible.
only if the richest half of the world refuses to have a revolution for some reason

>>2796793
we're already under a planned economy if you look at how huge business functions,it's just built for profit

>>2796793
>I think it would be better for producers and consumers to work out their interests and plan locally according to their needs
That's basically what I wrote though, you just don't want to say it should function rationally because some people won't be rational but that's expected, nobody is pushing idealism to say all humans are rational. But humans should strive to make rational decisions.

>>2796954
Also Fichte already answered the question of contradiction of interests, its compromise or conflict.

>>2776046
trve. maybe bordiga was right about demokkkrakkky

>>2771924
Endeks we won

anyone?

anybody?

anyxir?

>>2795355
we can simply decide what the length of the working week is, and everything follows from that. this doesn't prevent people from doing things as a hobby

>>2795040
>ai
the point of cybernetics is that planning can be done with discrete algorithms, not AI

>>2796590
>the point of cybernetics is that planning can be done with discrete algorithms, not AI
yes

>>2795040

>Where is the schizo creating the planned economy bot. You would think there would be one Terry Davis MF working on an AI for that exact purpose
>>not enough Data
>Use as much data that is already available. Better sooner than later

oec.world has a lot of data, from several nations, but that's just trade flow. idk how you convert trade flows into plans. and who cares about making planning software if there's nobody in power to actually implement those plans? The world is still divided into nations doing destructive "geopolitics" that race to the bottom and dedicate trillions in resources to strategically outmaneuvering each other. Countries will destroy trillions of dollars to secure billions of dollars. It is an irrational and suicidal system: Capitalism.

>>2795981
>we can simply decide what the length of the working week is, and everything follows from that.
anon that's not how planning works because different commodities are produced and consumed at different rates, and services also have variable demand. In a war you need surgeons who remove bullets and shrapnel working around the clock for example.

>>2796641
uhuh. and in that case we will notice whether we hit the surgeon constraint and we will have to decide whether to relax the labor constraint, to train more surgeons or to simply let people die

BUmperino

The economy is only limited by the division of labour. If you allow for more specialised labour to flourish, it is harder to control.

>>2796739
You put an ultimatum on something that hasn't even been structured for an attempt, planned production isn't impossible, you fell for the same bullshit premise as "economic miscalculation problem".

nobody thinks its real. another psyop

>>2793456
Fuck off Maupin

>>2793456

Z tag, q-anon swag.

>>2793155
It's insane how much of it is literally in plainsight. It's so obvious they all recieved the same memo and do it for the same check.
Wasn't it revealed that half of them were indian dudes paid to do this too ?

>>2793173
No, he's just ready for it. For someone of his character and at his age, martyrdom is a preferred method.

>>2792559
I never said I am not a degenerate western man. Okay, maybe a good article explaining the situation?

>>2792439
Wagner are extremly incompetent and failing to beat the Jihadis, the Jihadis were helped by Ukraine for a bit, but most of their support is local, they're winning because Mali and Wagner is corrupt.
>>2793010
https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20260426-new-fighting-erupts-in-north-mali-s-kidal-as-army-clashes-with-rebels
Mali is withdrawing from some key cities, the end of this war is probably a de facto independant islamic state in Northern Mali, don't think they'll be able to take the rest of the country.

>>2793448
>Wagner are extremly incompetent and failing to beat the Jihadis, the Jihadis were helped by Ukraine for a bit, but most of their support is local, they're winning because Mali and Wagner is corrupt.
wagner (actually its called africa corps now) is mostly light infantry, the problem isnt that they're incompetent or corrupt (although they likely are, given they're mercenaries fucks), the problem is they dont have much heavy equipment or air support and arent many (and the most skilled guys prolly were kept in russia for the war). They're a small support force mostly there to help with shit like training or radio jamming
And I suspect france is helping the jihadist too. Just after france was kicked out mali had managed to retake kidal, a feat french military never helped with, and now they're becoming stronger and striking back and there were report of ukrainians helping them out, so its safe to assume the west empire is backing them as retaliation for the sahel states giving them the boot and nationalizing shit.

>the end of this war is probably a de facto independant islamic state in Northern Mali
thats the situation since more than a decade at this point

Suriyak got some intel from Wagner: sadly the Malian gouv strategy seems to be like Assadist Syria, with "repositioning and defense" to protect the main centers of power and leaving the rest of the country to rebels

feds just take tips from myths at this point, lefty pol's servers are almost ready to get raided because of Houdini

We know what goes on in these ideological enclaves. Too bad the feds are there for money instead of protecting kids (surprise surprise.)

>>2796169
Ah yes, the people's flag could be deepest red with the potential blood of our martyred dead, except it's not.

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