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What is the point of horror when real life is infinitely more horrifying? Your average horror film is like watching the Teletubbies compared to a Mexican cartel torture/execution video. And I don't mean just the violence and suffering, I mean the casualness and banality. Or, to use another example, picture the scene of Roman mining slaves being literally worked to death because the profits of the mines were so large that human life became not worth maintaining, a level of greed that is perhaps unmatched even today.

Was horror unironically invented by sheltered people? What is the analysis?
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AAAAHHHHH

Yeah bro going to work is fucking scary
Literal shivers down my spine

>>2579304
Horror’s point isn’t to be scarier than reality, it’s to let you safely feel the thrill of fear for a few hours because nobody wants to work in a fucking slave mine or have soldiers rape and murder their family just to feel scared


>>2579304
What's the point of any art or fiction when reality exists anon?
It is entertainment, it is escapism. Story telling has been a core part of human socialisation since the stone age.
Can you even begin to imagine a world where we're limited to only discussing or portraying the real world? It's not psychologically healthy to only think on heavy topics that happen in reality. But fiction can give us an adrenaline rush without the risk of such trauma.



 

>After destruction commences, the masses are going to emerge in all countries – in a short time, in a few hours. Capitalism cannot defend itself in an atomic war except by putting itself in caves and attempting to destroy all that it can. The masses, in contrast, are going to come out, will have to come out, because it is the only way to survive, defeating the enemy… The apparatus of capitalism, police, army, will not be able to resist… It will be necessary to organise the workers' power immediately

>One of the best-known positions of J. Posadas was his enthusiasm for nuclear war. More precisely, at the height of the Cold War, Posadas thought that nuclear war was inevitable. His idea was that rather than wait for the forces of capitalism, the nuclear-armed socialist states should launch a preemptive attack that would destroy the nuclear capabilities of capitalist countries. Additionally, he believed that this sort of catastrophe could spark the world revolution

Meds

>>2580089
Apparently Posadas never heard of radiation and nuclear winter

>>2580116
>radiation
cures CO2 pollution
>nuclear winter
reverses global warming

>>2580116
Most areas not directly hit by nukes would not have radiation levels high enough to be a direct threat beyond way higher cancer rates in the future, and most hit areas would go back to safer levels after 2 months. From his point of view nuclear winter would force the remaining humans to band together because they would be forced too in a post nuclear world for survival, because the only other option would be death. Though I don't understand how he thinks it would result in socialist communities forming after when I think things would just return to feudalism instead at that point.

>>2580089
Destroying the productive forces is something the capitalists do 🙄.
Communists support the development of the productive forces.



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Here is my thesis

When the USSR collapsed, its former territory and the entire former Warsaw Pact, treacherous scum that they were, should have been nuked. We live in a time where we still suffer the consequences of Soviet mercy. The USSR left our world, and in its wake was left dozens of fascist nations with hundreds of millions of Nazis buried within. The Soviet Union assumed 50 years of hegemonic rule wiped out the scourge that was hitlerism in the region but they failed; and Eastern E*roids seem beyond redemption. As such, lay waste to everything between Berlin and Moscow; nuke every square inch of it, luckily they have no real means to retaliate unlike the nuclear armed West. Modern hitlerism can be stopped in the here and now!

>>2579984
soviet union state welfare didn't do shit lmao

>>2579984
>Soviet mercy
lol lmao even

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>>2579984
EUchads gotchu covered

Its because the Slavs are ethnically reactionary. Specifically the Poles. The Oder-Neisse line was perhaps the greatest mistake of Stalin-era policy. All of Poland should have been partitioned between Belarus and Germany.

>>2579984
I warned you about nationalism bro but you didnt listen.
<what? you want me to support nationalist movements across the planet because anti-imperialism?
No thats exactly the opposite of what I said.
<got it. I will now dedicate yearsof my life shilling online for nationalism because its literally anti-imperialism



 

Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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its over

they voted for the narco party

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Conservatives never gave a shit about drug trafficking it’s all just an excuse to stop brown people from moving next door.

>>2579848
colour me surprise



 

The USA has funded, trained, and mantains death squads, paramilitary forces, and criminal militaries in Latin America. One of the most awful cases is Guatemala, which became a counteinsuryency (a.k.a terrorist) state due to US influence. It is basically open warfare against the civilian population, mainly the indigenous who make up more than 50% of the total population. It has some similarities with Palestine, in fact. The main difference being the perpetrator is not a foreign force but their own government. These forces are trained at WHINSEC in the US and local forces around Latin America. For example, Brazilian forces train Panamian force, and these forces train Costa Rican ones.

Is it possible to beat a terrorist state that is supported by the US? To at least stop the government from its murder spree?

Also this is more of a curiosity question, but what kind of training turn men into killers and torturers? Especially of children?
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>>2542452
Watch home alone 1 and 2


>>2542468
This blog about Sparta was pretty interesting.

>>2542452
If women have sex with them they will stop being fascists

>>2580193
true…



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A list of nearly 800 Republican sexual predators can be found here
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/dennis-hastert-released.html
Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/03/former-judge-tim-nolan-could-sentenced-today-more-drama-could-get-way/577947002/
Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/11/20/former-oklahoma-state-senator-admits-to-child-sex-trafficking-while-in-office/
Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/22/lawmaker-quits-race-after-daughter-says-he-molested-her-more-than-decade/?utm_term=.8ac8527c7f43
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Do something about it then bitch

>>2539374
Let's force that MAGAs are PDFs?

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>>2539761
Been there done that.



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Right now the Trump administration is signaling its intentions to begin criminalizing the left, opening investigations, and moving to eliminate even the most non-threatening anarchist book clubs. They're speaking openly about designating "antifa" as a terrorist organization. Will anyone be surprised if within a couple years the PSL, the DSA, and your local larp group are also designated as criminal organizations? Will anyone in Europe or anywhere controlled by American influence be surprised if right wing governments there adopt the same methods they do in the US?

How can serious left wing organizers under these conditions continue to engage in building above ground parties engaged in feckless reformism under these conditions? Yes, officer, here is our formal centralized list of dues paying members and their legal names and credit card numbers. We have a right to free speech, officer. We're a legally registered nonprofit organization, officer. You'll be hearing from my lawyer, officer. Does this seem like a strategy prepared for the future to you?

People need to shift their organizing underground in advance and we should have done it yesterday. We need to build hardened cell networks and we need to take encryption and countersurveillance seriously. These cell networks need to be seriously prepared for prolonged asymmetric conflict against the most sophisticated surveillance state on Earth. If a crackdown happens, even if you aren't violent, it would be infinitely preferable to be in a hardened underground group that survives instead of sitting out in the open larping that this time we can make social democracy work or that our book club will amount to anything.

Right now, Trump is just a senile figurehead for a cabal of guys like Stephen Miller who are gearing up for Palantir fascism and race war. Anyone who could stand in their way has proven themselves to be too cucked to attempt anything. The worse the economy gets, the more they're going to start lashing out at the low hanging fruit.

>inb4 burger/europoor proles are incapable of revolution so why bother


If you do nothing there's a good chance that they're going to kill you personally, retard. The burgerreich endseig will not be fun to live through. If you don't plan on moving to China somehow you should take this seriously.
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>>2537260
I can join your underground cell :)

>>2537070
1. all that's required is the ability to have conversations with coworkers, not necessarily on the clock. This is not a high bar
2. if we all lose our jobs and there's a huge surplus population then I'd advise going door to door and seeing who else is in the same boat and organizing the unemployed, and immediately engaging in taxation or some form of banditry to keep yourself fed and free

>>2537260
Only people seriously committed to liberation would join. Don't expect it to be like a mass above-ground org where the goal is to make anyone join and then educate them. Educate and vet them first in low stakes front groups that can build their resolve and knowledge of the scope of injustice and what it takes to win. Secondary reasons to join could be a sense of agency in a chaotic world, camaraderie, and the safety net provided by mutual aid - all the things missing in society for the average person.

>>2521599
i'm still in awe at how stupid this take is, even two weeks after it was dropped.

>>2537260
if someone is too ADHD to read give them youtube videos
also people dont need to be super theorybrained to get involved in revolutionary politics

keep it simple
the system doesnt work we need a new system we can organize whats necessary now and form a group based on that interest of making dual power its easy to see its necessity

>>2538377
We are at the point where it needs to be a 20 second tik tok video.



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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2579817
Depends on the time and place. Women used to be bought and sold for marriage dowries. Anyway serfs were tied to land. I wasn't saying women are slaves, but that they are seen as property in a lot of societies, which is why there is this asymmetrical with relationships. It's why men are more than happy to have sex with women of other races but when "their" (property) women have sex with men of other races, the West/East/North/South has fallen and billions must die.

>>2579821
thanks for the book


iirc India was ready to drop the caste system
to which england intervened to keep it.

>>2579821
thank you anon <3



 

Today a very much of fictitious "value" was loss on them Wall StreetZ thx to Trumpfgd's tariff's on Choynah. The US A"I" conglomerate is a complete bubble. Laydowns going on in the US. Real estate market status in US: fugged.

Let's celebrate the impovireshment of the first world while China keeps rising! Please post them stonks & predictions.

This is a pro-eggplant/brinjal/aubergine 🍆 thread and also anti-tomato 🍅 thread. Please respexts these common sense sensibilities. Thx.
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>>2579720
how does this effect me

>>2579744
It doesn't unless it's an early sign of a liquidity crisis in which case you're so fucked it's not funny

>>2579800
What are the chances it's a liquidity crisis?

>>2579818
I think it's been high the whole year, money is being molested left and right and banks have been relying on short term borrow for months but this particular BTC crunch seems like it's reacting to interest hikes in Japan



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Ah, look, look! [sniffs violently] This whole question of the hammer and the sickle—my God!—it is already a kind of ideological joke, eh? Because when we look at symbols, we think they are innocent little pictograms. But symbols—they are like those weird Slovenian pastries: they always hide something inside, something messy, something unexpected. [sniff]

And so let me propose—of course, in a totally irresponsible, speculative way—that the hammer and sickle is not merely a workers’ emblem, no! It is like a dialectical offspring, a strange symbolic synthesis, between the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent-and-star.

You see, in early Christianity—especially before it became this gigantic bureaucratic megachurch—there is this radical concern for the poor, the oppressed. You have this idea that the first shall be last, that the beggar is closer to truth than the emperor. And what is this if not the proto-Marxist suspicion that the ruling class is full of, eh, ideological nonsense? [sniffs]

And then, Islam—look, please, I say this with all respect and purely in symbolic terms—brings this martial decisiveness, this warrior energy. Not in the Hollywood sense of violence and terrorism, but in the sense of the angel with the flaming sword, the insistence that faith is inseparable from action. It is a kind of ethical militancy: do something, engage, submit not to oppression but to the absolute.

So what happens when you combine these? [sniff] You get the hammer and sickle: the Christian concern for the poor—the weak, the exploited—joined with the Islamic ethos of active struggle, of refusing to be passive. It is as if the cross and the crescent enter a Hegelian marriage: thesis, antithesis, and then—boom!—the proletarian symbol emerges as the bastard child.

And the beauty—eh, the obscenity!—is that Marxism tries to become a universal emancipatory project without the supernatural elements. It keeps the moral passion of early Christianity, the activist thrust of Islam, but throws out God like old cabbage from a Slovenian kitchen. [sniffs, gestures wildly]

So the hammer and sickle becomes this strange thing: a materialist Pentecost, a secular jihad, a revolution without heaven, formed from the leftovers of two great religious traditions, but now made edible for the modern worker.

And this, of course, is precisely why nobody wants to admit it! Because it reveals that even our most “atheist” symbols are hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Classic leftypol sniffposting

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