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what do you guys think of the red shambala trend on tiktok?
i for one really like it and think its funny but it is kinda copying the whole 'agartha' thing and i think leftist shouldnt just copy whatever the right does
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I found a transparent version of this symbol, but it's ugly compared to the original.

>>2589949
its so fucking cool

>>2589949
looks like some retarded homestuck shit

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>>2589073
>>2589949

Here's the one I made for this >>2587924

I just found a tool font on a free font website, and used the path tool in GIMP to type the "sickle" character in a circle. Then I exported that as a PNG and rotated it in kdenlive. All freeware.

>>2588052
So, fascism in the 2030s?



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Can someone redpill me on DPRNK? Is how the west describes them close to what it's actually like living there or is it bullshit westard propaganda?

Everyone is starving, everyone is in prison, everyone has Kim’s haircut, and even though everyone is starving and in prison they are also a threat somehow

Kim eats all the food

>>2590344

Ask in the DPRK thread.

>>2590344
Have a good day!

https://www.youtube.com/c/ZoeDiscovers/about
North Korea isn't a completely closed off country, a major source of foreign currency for them is Chinese tourists. This is a YouTube channel with videos of North Korea owned by a woman who works in North Korea tourism.



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Hello, anons, I'm creating this thread about what where you share some controversial views on have. I have some views that seems to clash with left leaning view and honestly I don't know how to reconcile my leftist views with those controversial views I have, here some topics that clash with leftist tendencies:

>immigration in general

I'm not against immigrants actually, but I do think bring millions of immigrants from very radical different culture is recipe for creating tension and division inside of a country

>genes and behaviors

Yeah, that one is a hard, I think genes play a strong role on human behavior, I actually told that to some leftist in real life and I got shot down by being called "eugenicist", only a gay dude agree with me because he says that he didn't choose to be gay, he was born that way and could see other behavior having gene influencing too

>religion

I don't support religion at all, I think they are reactionary as fuck, especially desert religions like christianity, judaism and islam are especially bad and very very reactionary and should be fought against.

So far as I remember those are to topics that cause me to clash with my leftist tendencies, do you have any opinions and views that you considered to clash with your progressive views?
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Love the H3 podcast
Anything other than socialist democracy doesn't work
People who love regimes while living in a first world country are cringy as hell

>>2544398
>nooo why can't gays act more straight and heteronormative.jpg

>Enter thread
>See post like this
<Yep checks out
>Exit thread

>>2552351
India, Japan, and Ghana all prove that even if only one giant mixed race existed they would still develop a highly racist caste system with untouchables to discriminate against. Unironically this is woke nonsense because you genuinely believe in it. I believe in white genocide because if the global north is taken over from the inside by migrants directly attacking and raping as praxis and taking electoral office while displacing natives they will put an end to colonialism, but as far as believing it will somehow end racism that's just liberal propaganda we sell people, which is why I'm going to have to ask you to go back as your reasoning sucks.

bordiga was cute



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It's easy to hate the rich, it takes courage to hate poor people. Why do leftists hate men who rise from poverty to the top more than those who are born rich?
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>>2589313

Part of the explanation is nouveau riche ideology & lifestyle: It tends to have thoroughly petit-bourgeois individualist outlook, ie. Not recognizing or acknowledging the social and material conditions & forces enabling such rare rapid individual wealth accumulation.

The more "old money upper class" also finds the excessive public displays of opulence to be in very poor taste; Like quasi-prostitutional and very obvious a cue that the person has fallen for window dressing marketing that any truly upper class person is educated to recognize and avoid.

t. Member of the Bourgeoisie.

>>2590093

Addendum: This >>2589316 is some good insight.

>>2589313
People don't care if the boot on their neck has a different foot in it.

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because theyre actual, unironic, satanic fucks? im not even talking politics here, the bourgeoisie are plain creepy

>>2589313
leftists is an immaterial term, they perhaps might be some sort of petty bourgoise socialists.
leftism like liberalism are moral systems they "hate the rich"
true socialists see the patterns of exploitation on a larger scale. that exploitation leads to contradictions, the true socialists job is settle to resolve these contradictions not for a moral reason but simply because capitalism is failing



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2587993
The diasporoids have been seething that DAANES areas banned/discouraged celebrations.

>>2589867
Why are they surprised? Rojava is essentially at war with the rest of Syria and they no longer have the Americans to provide them with aid. They're on their own. I hope they make it.

>>2589869
>>2589869
On one hand I think HTS could crack them with Turkey but on the other I do not think Turkey would take the losses politically as bodybags coming home would exponentially increase. If anything the peace process w the PKK could be enough for Turkey to force their dogs in Damascus to heel.



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TOMORROW NOTHING HAPPENS
CHILE ELECTION 2025
<The spectre of nothing is haunting America
The candidate of the communist party who is watering down to appeal to milder socialdemocrats and others is leading the polls. Next to her are 3 rightwingers, all bastard sons of Bolso and Drumpf
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>>2589332
>to ban the communist party.
The chilean "communist" party is so fucking cringe and opportunistic that this may be a good thing. Wont happen tho, KACO (Kast always cucks out).

>>2589362
No it's not a "good" thing.

how did boric fail so massively that the left is likely to not even get 40% of the vote?

>>2589698
>fail
the center left helping the right get stronger is a feature not a bug

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>>2589703
yeah remember when boric and his acolytes saved piñera's ass during the 2019 riots? lmfao the middle class is the same everywhere falling for it every time



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Has anyone else been dismayed by how like 99% of the left these days is fanatically pro-Copyright/IP, reporting people for IP "piracy" and whining about Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?
>"Nooo my giant media companies and slop artists deserve to have a capitalist monopoly on thoughts and ideas for literally 150 years NOOOOOOOO"
Anyway, any Marxist who is against mass smart automation through AI should hand in their Marxist membership card.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch08.htm
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>>2588991
>"I have moral rights over my individual creative work"
Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Also this is ridiculous, artists should read Hegel and Marx then.

>>2589275
>Why should I give a fuck about some vague moral rights?
Ultimately because you exist in a social context and have to coexist with other human beings by affording them a modicum of respect and common decency. If you want to make edits of people's OCs being put up against the wall by the Cheka nobody can realistically stop you - but they can ostracize you from their social group. If you've got a brain and still can't control your compulsion to do things that piss other people off, you'll appreciate that this is the sort of thing you should do anonymously rather than demanding everyone else accept your social faux pas as moral because there's nothing in Das Kapital about not acting like a moron on the internet.

I do not believe you have seriously read either. You are posturing here for precisely the same socially motivated reasons: "look at me, I am virtuous, I read the approved communist thinkers." "The approved communist thinkers agree that my social status should be elevated and that of artists lowered.", well, no sell. Hegel and Marx would think you are an antisocial little dork.

>>2588268
>>2588031
>99% of the left
idk where you got this statistic from but yes it's annoying

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>>2588477
>ai is bad because it's controlled exclusively by reactionaries so yeah everything should be done to hinder its development

It is uncommon in human history for a technology to be destroyed or forgotten; it is far more common for a technology to remain once invented. On the rare occasions a technology disappears, it is usually due to isolation, collapse, or loss of transmission, rather than deliberate attempts by people to destroy technology and reverse history.

What does Marx say about the Luddites?

<The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power-loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used.

>Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?

That happened with Napster. What's happening now is more like the Enclosure of the Commons where big IP holders are just claiming the property of smaller IP holders and telling them to just deal with it.



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2584802
its just gonna get worse and continue to fracture the closest America has to a working class.
Imagine in 20 years dudes in their 40s refusing to do party work because of whatever obscure identity the assume

>>2574529
>>2574752
If you're looking to solve problems like those that autistic and queer people face, you have to build up orgs with people you actually like and are willing to work alongside long-term. That's how you get political leverage. So far, the autistic/neurodiversity and queer movements have largely been failures given how easily the Trump Administration could undo all the progress both groups have made within a matter of a year, because both of these movements don't have strong enough structures that they can effectively bite back.

>>2588290
You would assume an autism diagnosis (even if it's self-diagnosed) would radicalize someone and make them more willing to be proactive. But from my experience it's been the exact opposite: as soon as a comrade finds out they're autistic they use autism as an excuse to not organize or attend meetings/study groups and decide to stay on the couch or in bed all day. Now you're seeing a whole trend of autistic leftists (all of them zoomers, shocking) who insist attending protests and marches is "dangerous" for autistic people and they should have permission to stay out of protests without scrutiny. Really makes me wonder what these kiddos will do during a general strike or some other kind of mass upheaval.

>>2589291
Again though that's not about building socialism, that's about begging for concessions (treats) from piggy

If we really want to liberate autistic people we need a new system and they will have to fight for it and that requires picking up a book.

>>2589295
It American individualismnat it's peak



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LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER AND TELL ME THAT HE ISNT WHITE!!! Race obviously is a social construct but despite the fact that Persians have white skin in America they are “Brown” because they are Muslim, the same goes for Kurds, Turks, Azerbaijanis, and Pashtuns. It’s not just Muslims either but it also goes for Spanish speakers, I remember there was an episode of the Simpsons where they were making fun of Fidel Castro and they didn’t color his skin yellow.
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Reminder that Marco Polo described East Asians as having the same skin color as he has. Reminder that there was a Japanese immigrant in early 20th century America that almost succesfully won a whiteness debate before an US court to be considered eligible for US citizenship. Reminder that 19th century European scholars were major hinduboos (compareable to modern weeaboos) and thats why the term "Aryan" was adopted for Indo-European languages. Reminder that the Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons since the 8th century.

>>2588931
>Irish are the palest Europeans but were seen as subhumans because of the constant conflicts they had with Anglo-Saxons
well, more because they lost them and got colonized

>>2583533
>Persians have white
You have to go back

>>2588709
the big-cock-having moors obviously
read a history book

>>2588921
Yep
Greeks considered the greek/balkan area to be Europe, they considered 'asian turkey', that is Anatolia, to be 'Asia', and North Africa to be 'Lybia'. They knew of India and China but considered them distinct from 'Asia'.
As for the Germanoid lands, the Greeks simply did not give a fuck about them. The musty anglo racists never faced this reality, they shoehorned themselves as being part of 'Europe', when the Greeks did not even think about them. Inconsequential barbarians.



 

Artists such as Peter Hacks from East Germany interpreted "abolishing the state" from a Hegelian perspective, in that the state will become so big and all emcompassing that everyone born will be a member of the party, and that is the peak of human archievement
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>>2588614
>a perfect state has universal membership
Okay but that is your conjecture, not Peter Hacks. Universal party membership contradicts Hegel’s state theory because the state’s universality is mediated and rational, not totalizing.


>>2588624

you are correct.

But I also heard that in the former Eastern Bloc it was felt that improving the state into perfection was the path towards communism. In my view that seems totalitarian.

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>>2588540
Yes but unironically. Nazism needs to be eradicated on a genetic level.

>>2588642

It is indeed totalitarian conceptually.

For a Proletarian Dictatorship to truly triumph, it must come to encompass all of society; Nothing must be outside it or against it.

And it is by this process, as OP hinted at, that the state itself, defined in the Marxist sense as the instrument of class power itself can wither away.

The yet harder pill to swallow is that any totalitarian state almost also itself come to resemble something close to Proletarian Dictatorship. That is to say class collaborationism will never actually achieve what the corporatists say they want it to achieve (comprehensive social harmony analogous to a healthy body); Only something resembling the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can ever hope to lead to anything close to such an outcome.

anarchism was an antisemitic mistake



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