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How will the drop in students and workers coming from south asia and china affect american economy? Everybody knows not enough Americans study medicine to be able to fulfill the need for doctors in USA. How else will it affect usa? Could it end up being good for the global left in the long term if it leads to a chronic crisis and loss of faith in capitalism?

America has shot itself. But this is also a thing in western europe. Fewer foreign students. Fewer tourists. America asking people outside of America to provide biometric ID and several years of social media history is the final straw. Nobody has the right to call China obscenely authoritarian again.

Nothing special about Asians. The masses of Blacks and Latinos will fill the hole, and who knows, maybe even surpass the productivity of Asians.

>>2597521
This excellent news if the brain drain towards USA drops.



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PMC leftists when blue collars whine about immigrants taking their jerbs
>Why are these people so backwards and stupid? Don't they know that wages already declined even before immigration and that immigrants mostly take over jobs that nobody wants to work with in the first place?

PMC leftists when AI take their jobs:
>NO AI SLOP SLOP FUCK AI I HATE AI LYNCH AI BURN THE DATASERVERS

And no, i'm not justifying anti immigration nativism, the point against them are valid and true. But those same points apply with AI. Wages are already declining long before AI is a thing, and AI is used primarily, in the creative industry setting, for entry level jobs with low wages that nobody wants to work in. You know, like making codemonkey scripts or making fillers for game backgrounds. But its the fucking hypocrisy i can't stand: you guys can correctly see through hysteria when it affects the blue collars, but when it affects your substratum's interest, your creative art making and programming jobs, suddenly you become as insane as the most rabid nativists who think that haitians are eating cat and dogs
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>>2596202
Anon please think for a second. If porkies would've destroyed wages regardless of whether there is immigration or not, then the bourgeoisie would've cut jobs regardless of whether AI exist or not. You demonizing AI as "tools of the bourgeoisie" is no different with rightoids demonizing migrants the same way. But you have internalized in your mind that its ok to be paranoid to AI because you perceive AI to threaten your class interest the same way blue collar rightoids have internalized the belief that migrants are threatening their livelihoods, leading to them to constantly spout outlandish lies about migrants, not dissimilar to how AI skeptics constantly spout fearmongering nonsense about AI

>>2596328
And please read my reply here >>2596071. I'm not justifying blind nativism against migrants. What i hate here is the utter hypocrisy of PMC leftists fearmongering about AI while smugly lecturing blue collar workers who bought into similar hysteria vis a vis migrants. It is this overbearing PMC hypocrisy that is grating more than anything else

>>2596216
This is heavily implied. If your job can be automated then its completely wasteful to keep it just because people dont like "ai slop". Why keep an army of accountants when AI can do all of their jobs? Their labor is better used elsewhere. For artists I suggest making art for arts sake as a hobby instead of doing art for money.

>>2596058
These people haven't read Capital. AI wrecks the rate of profit in all industries and brings the impossibility of capital's continued existence closer with awe-inspiring speed. Most satisfyingly, ones that liberal culture thought would be safe for all eternity and already coped with since the 90s. But their importance in real terms is far smaller than all the scientific uses AI gets and robotics. It's hard to overstate how much use AI is getting in every single branch of science right now.
Immigrants raise the rate of profit at the expense of immigration origin societies that had to practically waste all these resources and value to create this labor power that will be used by more powerful capital now for next to no cost.
This behavior makes sense since one of the first working class movements was luddites, but it is very much counterproductive and only resulted in workers being trampled harder the first time. It has no place among materialists and the vanguard of the working class.

>>2596058
this contradiction is why the PMCs come up with all the other anti ai shit, because if they complain about ai raping wages too much they'll be in for a generational mockery from a working class full of schadenfreude



 

Doesn't the fact that CHINA has multiple STOCK exchanges, prove that its CAPITALIST? How do le elder scroll ones explain this? Even old turn of the century imperial germany was closer to socialism than modern day China.
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>>2595920
I'll do my part to establish socialism by trading stocks. Every time I make money by moving it around, the proletariat grows stronger

>>2596603
only if you are doing that as a non western person in a non western country since as we know marxism is as conservatives think, about destroying the west but actually thats a good thing

China is in phase D of capitalism as described by Engels in Anri-Duhring

>>2597447
can you summarise the phases please




 

Why is china a communist country claiming non-chinese territory as its own because it was once conquered by their imperialist predecessor?
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>>2596601
I really like this meme.

>>2596647
you can have it friend


>>2596690
point out and correct the mistakes, don't just be a smartass about it



 

something *good* is always just over the horizon. Alien disclosure is coming to earth, Hitler 2.0 rising from the ashes, Jesus descending to smite their enemies, Trump and the globohomo awakening in two weeks, mass genocide solving all their problems, or the magical day when everyone suddenly agrees with their garbage takes.

It’s all hopium for losers who can’t deal with the present. Instead of doing anything meaningful, they sit in their digital basements praying for a future that never comes. Every post is just another round of "just wait, you’ll see," while the rest of the world keeps living, laughing, and leaving them behind.

The truth? Nothing’s coming. No savior, no reckoning, no mass awakening, no shift in opinions. It’s just endless cope for people too powerless to face reality. The only thing in their future is more disappointment and deep down, they know it.
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>>2596667
Trúke

>Trump and the globohomo awakening in two weeks
The eternal two-weeks wait usually appeals to intellectually insecure rightoids, hence the chess metaphors in which it's usually couched, with the gloriously elaborate checkmating coming any day now.
Rightoids are intellectually insecure because of the liberal domination of academia and also because deep down they're embarrassed about the intellectual merits of their representatives from Dubya to Trump (it's no surprise that the two-weeks wait usually includes a lot of overcompensation about Trump's "genius" as he lays his "traps").

As opposed to the collapse of capitalism which is right around the corner and the global proletariat rising up in unison to install gay space communism?

Two more weeks

>>2596903
Oh don't worry about it, climate change is gonna send 7 billion third worlders your way by 2050 🤫

>>2596626
>The only thing in their future is more disappointment and deep down, they know it.
Have you tried shopping? It actually feels really good to buy stuff. Of course the feeling wears off and existential dread and anxiety returns in about 2-3 days but you can always go back and buy more stuff.



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>>2596842
The Soviet "schizophrenia" was entirely justified and the only reason why the bloc failed is that they didn't go far enough. The USSR was one of the best functioning states in the world, there was no corruption and then Khrushchev came in and re-implemented capitalism while loosening party discipline and freeing all the fifth columnists from prison. It's not a surprise that the state collapsed, the Communist party was full of opportunists many of whom (Gorbacuck) were active enemies of socialism. Gorbacuck was mad because his Kulak grandparents were correctly liquidated by Stalin and he set about to destroy the USSR because of it.

new thread >>2596947

>>2596932
responded in the next thread: >>2596967

>>2596363
thank you

>>2596820
I genuinely did not know about Venezuela's communal councils until last week, that's lightyears ahead of burgerdom where much of this kind of work gets laundered through non profits



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Porky pretends deflation is le bad but it's only bad by porky logic. Prices going down is good. Yes, including the price of labor power, which Marx shows is the price of keeping the worker alive, sheltered, and capable of reproducing and raising a child, since Capitalism depends on the working class surviving and reproducing itself. Porky hates deflation and wants "price stability" instead. This is why you see all the porkies getting angry at Chinese deflation. Porkies also get mad at the idea of full unemployment as outlined here: >>2563763

"Deflation bad" and "100% employment bad" are HUGE porky copes that should be attacked relentlessly. I suspect some of you will argue to the contrary, and suggest, just as porky does, that deflation is actually bad.
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>>2596613
Wouldnt you able to adress by simply making money expire after ar certain time?

>>2596631
Im not sure my educated guess is that this would create just an another set of problems. I would focus more on socialism instead of trying to fix capitalism.


>>2595926

Here we go teaching the "marxists" marxian economics again

Deflation can result due to productivity increases. Deflation of necessary goods is the basis for relative surplus value, through which porkies can increase the rate of exploitation via lowering wages. This phenomenon is implemented concretely via relative inflation, through which inflation of commodities rises faster than wage rises, having the same effect as a direct deflation of wages but the mechanism is hidden from the worker to reduce class conflict. Productivity-derived deflation of capital goods on the other hand lowers the organic composition of capital, and thus constitutes a countervailing effect to the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

Deflation is an entirely different matter in the context of a crisis of overproduction. Once the crisis hits, credit disappears causing a massive drop in demand and surge in debt payments, so capitalists clear their stock at low prices to get any money they can, investment stops and unemployment rises, leading to a drop in demand and sales, leading to lower prices still, reinforcing the cycle. Deflation here includes a lowering of wages due to a growing reserve army of labor. Because it is a systemic feedback loop there's no such thing as "prices are low so you can buy more!!1" because incomes fall in tandem with prices. Only once sufficient capital has been destroyed, sufficient debt has been settled, and wages and interest rates have fallen enough, will the rate of industrial profit be restored to the point that expanding production can once again be profitable.

So deflation as a symptom of a crisis of overproduction and indirect wage deflation bad actually, while wage increases tied to productivity increases good, as well as capital good deflation only because it increases in the rate of profit without resorting to class warfare



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Interested to see if we have any contrarians here who can explain why the RSF is good and anti-imperialist actually. They're secular and portrayed as the bad guys in western media, so they're probably the good guys?
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Apparently the number of people butchered in Al-Fasher is 60,000 as a low estimate:

https://uk-crime.co.uk/sarah-champion-2025-speech-on-gaza-and-sudan/

So this is the multipolarity that was promised

The UAE's strategy is to create interdependence on global, often conflicting power players in order to carve out its little colonialist enterprises in Africa and Yemen. So they submit to US military dominance in the gulf, help Russia avoid sanctions and just signed a new trade deal with China. They also offer a safe haven for oligarch money. This way they can fund this arab supremacist, genocidal RSF and no one tells them to stop

>>2584404
60 000 dead 150 000 missing.

South Sudan army moves into Heglig after ‘tripartite deal’

South Sudanese troops have entered the Heglig oil field in West Kordofan after an agreement with Sudan’s warring parties. The field processes some 130,000 barrels of South Sudanese crude for export via pipelines in Sudan.

The deal requires both Sudanese parties to withdraw from the field and allows South Sudanese forces to protect oil installations to prevent sabotage, Nang said. The aim is to “completely neutralise” the area from combat as battles intensify across the Kordofan region.

South Sudanese troops will not participate in any military operations inside Sudan and will maintain strict neutrality, he stressed, adding the SSPDF’s mandate is limited to securing oil infrastructure vital to both countries’ economies.

The deployment follows the RSF’s takeover of the strategic site on Monday, which forced SAF units to retreat across the border into South Sudan, where they surrendered their weapons.

Economist Wael Fahmy told Radio Dabanga that the RSF’s capture of Heglig is significant but will have limited economic effect. Revenues from the sector have become marginal and “consequently, oil is no longer a vital resource for domestic consumption for the government.”

Heglig’s production has fallen from 65,000 barrels per day to around 20,000 since fighting between SAF and the RSF escalated in April 2023. As reported by Dabanga yesterday, the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) withdrew from Sudan after three decades, citing deteriorating security in the West Kordofan fields.

https://www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/south-sudan-army-moves-into-heglig-after-tripartite-deal
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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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its over

>>2596172
it has been since 26th December 1991


>>2596710
Klauskino

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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

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• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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>>2595076
because it is called ceasefire and not ceasekilling you stupid

>>2595076
israel also re-arrested some people released in prisoner exchange

Fuck sunnis

>>2593365
God their negotiating position is so fucked if they are considering dis arming, all that fighting and with out external help and more than anyone was going to give they were always doomed

saw it on newsanon's thread

Egypt: Organi-linked armed groups looting, confiscating Gaza aid trucks in Sinai

Armed groups affiliated with the Union of Sinai Tribes, based in the Egyptian peninsula, are reportedly inspecting and looting trucks carrying aid and goods headed towards the Gaza Strip, exclusive reports from The New Arab's sister site revealed on Sunday.

The armed groups are reportedly stationed at several points on the international highway linking the Egyptian city of Sheikh Zuweid and Rafah in the war-battered Gaza Strip. The individuals stop trucks headed towards Gaza, whether carrying humanitarian relief or goods intended for Palestinian traders, meticulously looking for allegedly banned goods.

Such items include cigarettes, mobile phones, certain types of medicines and medical supplies, among others.

One truck driver told Al-Araby that armed men routinely stop trucks, unload several boxes, and manually search them.

He added that all vehicles are inspected without exception. The driver also said such searches often result in the destruction of goods, with the armed individuals often tearing open bags of flour and other foodstuffs, rendering them unfit for consumption.

In the event that a "prohibited" item is found, the armed groups will photograph it, confiscate it entirely – including the truck – before transferring it to warehouses belonging to Sons of Sinai, owned by the controversial businessman Ibrahim Al-Organi (also spelt Al-Arjani).
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