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I made this flag for people who aren't Stalin dick suckers but are still okay with millions of people dying/support China. Like me.


"body to short or empty" fuck you!
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>>2792554

It's Max Stirner as Beavis, someone who is included in Anarcho-Juche's basis for their cults new theory.

>>There is way too much value on victimhood within the American left, which is something that definitely leads to drawing in a weaker coalition of apes. People who aren't weak generally can view themselves as conquerors even in situations stacked against them 1000:1. People who are weak and moralistic feel safer to be in the role of the "victim" than they do "the aggressor or conqueror". The way the American left approaches meekness isn't that far off from the modern Christian obsession with the same concept; being a victim, and turning the other cheek gives you higher moral ground, this is the worldview of the modern left, religious like victimhood - Juche Poster


Which is just building on the same logic as Stirner's quote,

>>One is not worthy to have what one, through weakness, lets be taken from him; one is not worthy of it because one is not capable of it. - Max Stirner

>>2792524
Didn't happen in India lol

>>2791966
>support China
Counterpoint: ching ching ching ching chong chong chong chong ching ching ching ching ching chong chong ching

>>2792856
they are correct about that

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>>2801011
>>they are correct about that

Um didn't Juche literally post a bunch of those "muh whitey settler oppressor" threads? You know, the classic Maoist Black Panther shit that dominates leftism. Malcolm X quotes, all that. And now people are acting like he's consistent? Like… how does that even work?

You can say "Black people are America's biggest oppressed workers, settler colonial states this" kay, fine. But that directly contradicts his whole anti victim mentality. You can't have it both ways, my guy. Either it's a victim game race blame theory or it's class struggle.

Imagine saying the left is too obsessed with being victims but black people are victims of the system? That take is literally the prototype for leftist victimhood in the new left. Like, this existed before gay rights was even a conversation.

I'm just saying… the math ain't mathing. But hey, don't let me interrupt the circlejerk.


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>During the 2008 Russo-Georgian war, China opposed Russia's infringement on Georgia's sovereignty.[141]: 347  Citing principles of sovereignty, territorial integrity, and global order, China used its influence in the SCO to prevent the organisation from supporting Russia.[141]: 347 

Multipolar zizters… why would china do this?


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>political system was built from the ground to just be nothing more than a farce so the proles would not have any say in how the ussr was run and the leaders were completely unaccountable did not draw their legitimacy or power from them.
>leaders decide to dissolve the ussr upon their own volition the proles oppose this and vote against it but it doesnt matter as the system never needed or cared about their approval to work and so the ussr gets dissolved against the wishes of the majority of its populace anyways
Really amazing "dictatorship of the proleteriat" you got there ML's.


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I hear often that to establish a communist society implies the abolition of the law of value, which means abolishing the commodity form – that objects are created for exchange rather than for use.
But how exactly do we get to do this ? It seems that the idea of exchange-value imposing itself on use-value as the dominant way of production simply reflects scarcity. Some objects are valued more than others and we would prefer that the ressources required to produce one are spent in object A than object B.
As such, how exactly do we go about to about to abolish the law of value whilst retaining the inevitable characteristic of scarcity in most domains ?

>inb4 paul dickblast
It's been a while since I've read dickblast's TANS but doesn't his concept of labor-vouchers imply commodification of labor ? Working to be able to get said-vouchers is recreating a form of exchange which reflects scarcity. It's a better monetary system than the one we have now, but it still operates under a form of the law of value. (note that it's been a while since I've read it, so this might be incorrect)
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By abolishing market exchange.

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>doesn't his concept of labor-vouchers imply commodification of labor ?
According to Marx, labour-vouchers are not money, but are simply a type of ticket or coupon which distributes goods (the communist system presupposing universal rationing of resources):
<Owen’s “labour-money,” for instance, is no more “money” than a ticket for the theatre.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch03.htm
<For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another. Here, obviously, the same principle prevails as that which regulates the exchange of commodities, as far as this is exchange of equal values. Content and form are changed, because under the altered circumstances no one can give anything except his labor, and because, on the other hand, nothing can pass to the ownership of individuals, except individual means of consumption. But as far as the distribution of the latter among the individual producers is concerned, the same principle prevails as in the exchange of commodity equivalents: a given amount of labor in one form is exchanged for an equal amount of labor in another form.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm
EBT Cards (food stamps) would be an appropriate analog.

As yet, we see that people prefer the liquidity of money to hard assets, so there is an inherent psychological issue. For example, would you rather be paid $400 in cash, $500 credit or $600 food stamps? Most people prefer cash to any other token.

>>2800836
Yeah but in the end it's reproducing the law of value but for only one type of commodity : labor. Working to get money/paid is de facto exchanging your labor for other labor, it's commodifying.

>>2800903
de facto but not de jure
Marx simply states that form and content are reversed, so we no longer have a form of value (e.g. money) but still retain its meaning.

>>2800903
>>2800917
Marx uses the same trick with the state; its not a state if it doesn't fit my definition of a state. So you can see it as dishonest if you want to.


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>Unemployment to rise by a quarter of a million as Iran war hits UK economy

<The working class in Britain faces a surge in unemployment as the economic shockwaves from the war on Iran push an already stagnating economy towards recession […]
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>>2800735
>a gay bakery can't refuse to make a homophobic wedding cake

political views aren't a protected class (supposedly)

if you make cakes condemning gay marriage, you need to make one condemning straight marriage if asked

>>2800168
>Define neoliberalism as you understand it

I agree with your definition mostly but would also include tax cuts.

>[what you described] is obviously some flavor of neoliberalism, even if it's an atypical one.

It's really not, you're just proposing social democracy with extra localist characteristics. You can't be like 'they should do proper neoliberalism - high welfare, progressive taxes, and big infrastructure projects' because that's not neoliberalism. they did do neoliberalism, which is just voodoo economics and an excuse to rob the poor blind.

Left the thread for a day and its dead swear to god I carry this site on my back.

>>2799984
>>2799947
Turnout was good in the end happy days.

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>>2800871


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I want this crisis in Iran to lead to a communist revolution in the country, but I know that the movement is weak both domestically and internationally. But still I hope.
Do you feel the same?
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>>2800734
>the actual universally hated groups are the MEK
as if the average iranian could tell the difference
>supporting their efforts
what efforts? what have they actualy done to stop the bombing of the iranian workers? unless you think cheering for schools getting bombed counts as revolutionary defeatism and the ultimate form of praxis for all nonzionists nations

>>2800738
>what efforts? what have they actualy done to stop the bombing of the iranian workers? unless you think cheering for schools getting bombed counts as revolutionary defeatism and the ultimate form of praxis for all nonzionists nations
the first part is already answered, the second part i have no fucking clue what you're talking about, the iranian communists are currently irrelevant, keyword there, "I R R E L E V A N T", they don't have enough power to do anything, they have no backing with which to carry out your fantasies, it'd be like asking the bolsheviks in 1915 to prevent german chemical warfare, they are not capable of it because they have nor the weapons, nor the numbers to achieve it!

>>2800752
*the enemy is both weak and strong

shitlamists can't even hide their fascist class collaborationist origins

>>2800752
>Iranian communists overthrowing their libshit regime is anti-zionism enough
ok I'll wait for them to go ahead and do it then
>they don't have enough power to do anything, they have no backing with which to carry out your fantasies
>waa waa they are weak and stupid all they can do is lay down and cheer for zionists while their country turns into rubble
and they'll remain like that unless they actually start opposing imperialism instead of just watching form their cushy europeans apartments how their countrymen are massacred

>>2800752
>they influence strikes that cripple the country and protests where thousands of proles lay their lives
wich strikes and protests?? unless you mean the ones initiated by the pettybourg earlier this year and swiftly taken over by mossad agents


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Is maoism completely dead? The CCP doesnt follow it and has practically disavowed it.
Modern maoism only exists online and is entirely composed of just resentful thirdworlders and non-white ethnonationalists with teenage revenge fantasies.
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>>2796164
maoism is from latin america
>>2796166
correct
>>2796168
read this thread since you didn't know the diff:

>>>/leftypol/2767836

>>2796938
>The "third world nationalism" epithet is a slur deployed by the imperial core to dismiss any anti‑imperialist struggle that refuses to bow to the will of western forces who attack sovereignty
Except when it's an accurate critique of the limitations of inherently succdem left-nationalist opportunism which more often than not serves the interests of the national bourgeoisie and petty bourgeois clans while throwing the proles and lumpens under the bus.

>>2797122
It was popular mostly among Western leftists and the diaspora who criticized the USSR for not engaging in a suicidal war against the US and accused them of being imperialist.

I lived in China for a few years and I can confirm it’s completely dead. Even in Chinese left-wing circles, the most popular thinkers are Bukharin and Engels. No one hates Mao in China he’s considered essential to win the civil war, but that’s about it. More respected as a military leader then a thinker.

>>2796166
thats MLM retard thats different from maoism wich was the result of the sino-soviet split


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https://fashfront.st/
Found this site randomly, from what I know it’s appeared fairly recently.
It’s honestly sickening to see stuff like this still and of this retarded vibe based ideology refuses to die, I mean most of their ideas about immigration and ‘Muh replacement’ are shared by billionaires and the modern day, trivial zoomer right. I literally don’t see any reason to be into something like this when you can just vOOOte another Hitlerite in democratically.

A nazi to me is simply a retard who bases his ideology on their porn addiction and le heckin based Hitler edits from Xitter.

Let’s come together and destroy this faggotite ideology forever
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>>2798364
Nobody tell them a big part of what made Mao & his guerillas so successful was that they actually mingled with and helped the locals

>>2799997
Your really leaking
>>2799995
Same thing

>>2799995
Jews won WW2, we didn't win shit.

>>2800327
How is that antisemitism?

>>2800216
I'm not doing shit Bruce


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Why are small towns so Hitlerite? There's just an incredible amount of tribalism, anti-intellectualism and moral busybody behavior. Small towners are just people who don't know how to mind their own fucking business and get outraged over every moral panic. What the fuck is wrong with these libertarian freaks who want to diddle little girls and execute the gays? I've noticed that a lot of marginalized groups also maintain these kinds of small town politics. I just don't get it.
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re: this entire discourse

>>2800019
>muh human nature

>>2800019
People in big cities have more schizophrenia, people in rural communities tend to be more depressive. Both big cities and small rural towns are unnatural deviations from human's origins of small hunter-gatherer tribes.

>>2800638
An attempt to return to hunter gatherers tribes would mean the death of 90% of humanity, there aren’t enough wild plants and prey animals to feed us all

>>2800638
>muh primitivism


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>all nothing on the happening front

Trump and Hegseth's claims of U.S. 'victory' in the Iran war: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trump-and-hegseths-claims-of-u-s-victory-in-the-iran-war

>Previous poop
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he's trying to shift blame for all the shitty things that will happen soon in the US on Iranians.

>>2800290
> The CIA is planning to take over Sinaloa as we speak
You stupid inbred uyghur, Rocha Moya is 100% in bed with cartels and the Us demanding his extradition iss a good thing.

>>2800243
Ben said that Iran changed the global hegemony and this war will be the end of the US empire.

>>2800410
>I suck american cock constantly
yes we know


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