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>>2773711
>They literally act lile he's going to magically fix every problem
He does.

>>2776088
No actual leftist could possibly believe that, unless you're making an accelerationist argument.

>Canada’s Hidden Links to Jeffrey Epstein's Network

>The Liberal party Patrick Pichette a former Senior VP of Google, say that if Canadians want to leave Canada to work in the US they need to pay an exit tax of half a million dollars.




 

Your Party Scotland’s interim executive committee resigns en masse
The leadership said consistent contempt was shown towards members and the organisation north of the border after tensions were raised last month when it emerged that the party would not stand candidates in next month’s Holyrood elections. … In a statement, the committee said: “No serious attempt to unite the left can be done through purges of socialists or by disregarding entire nations and their representatives.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/your-party-scotlands-interim-executive-committee-resigns-en-masse

Lufthansa pilots strike for 2 days, cabin crew will follow
On Monday afternoon, UFO said that it had called on its members to strike again on Wednesday and Thursday of this week, meaning Lufthansa could face four consecutive days of disruptions. Hundreds of flights were canceled on Monday, with the major hubs of Frankfurt and Munich hit hardest, in the fourth strike of 2026 at the airline.
https://www.dw.com/en/lufthansa-pilots-launch-2-day-strike-cabin-crew-say-they-will-strike-right-after/a-76760890
https://archive.ph/6xSVe

French lawmakers set to push bill criminalising speech on Israel
Under Article 1, individuals could face up to five years in prison and heavy fines for speech interpreted as justifying or reframing acts labelled as terrorism. That could include describing such acts as “resistance” or providing context deemed insufficiently condemnatory. France’s former anti-terrorism judge Marc Trevidic issued a stark warning about the implications. "I'd never seen anything like it, the notion of implicit incitement to terrorism. Do you realise what that means? Becoming a censor of other people's thoughts, trying to guess what a person really meant."
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Judges fired after blocking deportation of pro-Palestinian students
The New York Times reported over the weekend that the justice department had terminated six judges, including Roopal Patel and Nina Froes, who oversaw deportation proceedings against Rümeysa Öztürk and Mohsen Mahdawi, two students who were arrested last year as part of Trump’s campaign against the Gaza protest movement.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/13/immigration-judges-fired-trump-administration

With Congress Back in DC, Sanders Plans Another Vote on Blocking US Weapons to Israel Over Genocide
With members of Congress returning to Washington, DC, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday pledged that he will, yet again, force a vote aimed at cutting off the flow of US weapons to Israel over its genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-weapons-israel

Man shot by ICE in California has been arrested by the FBI, attorney says
A man shot by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents during an enforcement stop in central California last week was arrested Monday by the FBI after being discharged from a hospital, his attorney said. Attorney Patrick Kolasinski said federal officials have not said what charges Carlos Ivan Mendoza Hernandez might face. Messages were sent to the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office seeking more information about the arrest.
https://apnews.com/article/california-ice-shooting-carlos-ivan-mendoza-hernandez-71b60ba1007bd705454a4cef5293da6e

Minnesota investigates the arrest by ICE of a Hmong American man as a possible kidnapping
Ramsey County Attorney John Choi and Sheriff Bob Fletcher said at a news conference they will pursue information from the Department of Homeland Security that they need for their investigation into the arrest of ChongLy "Scott" Thao in January. Ramsey County includes the state capital of St. Paul.
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The homeland must be defended: Cuban unions call for mass mobilization on May Day 2026
In the face of growing threats from the U.S. government—reinforced by the executive order of January 29, which has added an energy siege to the already intensified economic, commercial, and financial blockade imposed on our country for more than 65 years, simply because we chose to build a dignified, sovereign, and independent nation—there is nothing more urgent or decisive today than to act together and strengthen ourselves as a country. In this context, the Central de Trabajadores de Cuba (CTC), its national unions, and the National Association of Innovators and Rationalizers (ANIR) call for the celebration of May 1st, International Workers’ Day, under a clear and mobilizing principle: The homeland must be defended. To mark May Day is to reaffirm the unity and patriotism of the Cuban people. It is to once again “break the corojo,” as Antonio Maceo did at Baraguá when he rejected a peace without independence; to recall José Martí’s message in Los Pinos Nuevos, a historic call for unity across generations in the struggle for sovereignty; and, in the year marking the centenary of Commander-in-Chief Fidel Castro Ruz, to uphold the vision he expressed on May 1, 2000.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/04/the-homeland-must-be-defended-cuban-unions-call-for-mass-mobilization-on-may-day-2026.html

Viktor Orbán’s Hungarian Model Has Collapsed
Reacting to news of Viktor Orbán’s defeat in Sunday’s Hungarian election, many of his admirers insisted that he had, after all, done a good job. Jordan Bardella, president of France’s Rassemblement National, wrote that Orbán had “led Hungary’s economic recovery, promoted family policies that helped maintain the birth rate, and defended his country and Europe’s borders against migration.” Dutch nationalist leader Geert Wilders insisted Orbán was “the only leader with balls in the EU”; for others, the fact that he had admitted defeat proved his democratic spirit. Many accounts focus on Orbán’s authoritarian hold on power, whether rewriting the state’s Fundamental Law or packing the Constitutional Court. His Fidesz party’s influence on public media and the education system was also an importanPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

So, it appears that despite the most common assumptions, labour "aristocratic"/well paid workers can and have been notable partecipants in the class struggle, everywhere from Italy to Chile and from the UK to South Africa

> The most important counter-example is the Russian working class in the early 20th century. The backbone of Lenin’s Bolsheviks (something he was most definitely aware of) were the best paid industrial workers in the Russian cities – skilled machinists in the largest factories. Lower paid workers, such as the predominantly female textile workers, were generally either unorganized or apolitical (until the beginnings of the revolution) or supported the reformist Mensheviks.


> German Communism became a mass movement when tens of thousands of well-paid metal workers left the Independent Socialists and joined the Communists in 1921. The French and Italian Communists also became mass parties through the recruitment of thousands of machinists who led the mass strikes of the postwar period. These highly paid workers were also overrepresented in the smaller Communist parties of the United States and Britain.


> In Chile between 1970 and 1973, and Argentina between 1971 and 1974, copper miners and metal workers engaged in industrial struggles and took the lead in mass mobilizations against the military and the right. In Brazil, it was the well-paid metal workers in the suburbs of San Paolo who led mass strikes in the 1970s that created the CUT


> it was the highest paid Black workers in South Africa – in mining, auto, steel – whose struggles in the 1970s created the radical and militant FOSATU trade union confederation.


https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/atc/129.html
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>>2779288
And yet the only country in the world that scores high on both sustainability and human development is Cuba. Socialism won't automatically solve the ecological crisis, but it's the only system that can. Surely you agree that these problems cannot be solved without careful, long term economic planning, eliminating the need for constant growth, the prioritization of profits above all else, etc.

>>2779297
Then either kys or at least stew alone in your pessimism without infecting others. This board is for people who haven't given up yet.

>>2779274
>Ridiculous exaggeration
you are delusional if you think thats not whats going to happen in the next 50 years
but you live in one of the only few places that won't be destroyed by climate change so in that sense it is an exaggeration, for you

>>2779305
>but you live in one of the only few places that won't be destroyed by climate change so in that sense it is an exaggeration, for you
So your climate change drivel won't result in human extintion then

>>2779318
It's not unlikely.



 

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>>2777168
If it were really AI, and they really framed Chamel Abdulkarim for the arson, they would have had him say something like "Allahu Akbar" rather than having him say something like "All you had to do was pay us enough to live" which is a lot more relatable.

>>2775977
ADHD meds actually makes you do stuff fuck you mean

>>2776651
As we all know, only westoids have cats and dogs, which are utterly unknow to the working class of the global east

>>2776089
Some good news at least: microplastics fucking up testosterone production means femboy future.



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Are all Non-US NATO countries puppet-states or Vassal-states or proxy-states or whatever? France and the UK have the ability to be independent since they have nukes but they choose not to be for some reason. NATO countries just seem to let America smear its dick all over them in exchange for “Defense” which is actually just offensive somewhere in the other side of the world.
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>>2780392
France is building up military capabilities for her to be able to defend against mutts. For UK they have chosen to be a USA colony.

>>2780401
The UK has nukes, if there is ever a socialist revolution then they could avoid invasion unless the US is insane enough to invade a nuclear power

nah bro hungary is anti-zionist AES now, dont let ziggers psyop you

>>2780641
the nukes have US backdoors

>>2780392
they're vassals, which is different from a puppet or a proxy. A vassal or puppet can serve as a proxy, but even an ally or independent force with a common enemy can serve as proxy. A puppet has no independent will. A vassal is dependent on and serve its master but has independent agency, and will have to be forced to act against its interests.
hezbollah or the houthis for example are iranian ally and proxy, but not a puppet nor a vassal. Israel is an ally, vassal and proxy of the us, but not a puppet.
The EU are vassals of US. Ukraine is a vassal and proxy of the US. Syria is both a puppet of turkey, and a vassal of the US.



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Some reading for UK /Leftypol/

Some brutal home truths about Sultana - I dont buy the muh fed stuff and Corbyn's lot haven't behaved wonderfully either but what Sultana and the screeching sects and radlibs behind her have done for the chances of YP now is just unforgivable.

https://samjoyce96.substack.com/p/your-partys-infantile-disorder
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>>2775407
Corbyn himself didn't even want Labour lol, he just wanted a loose alliance of community groups. It's just all the people around Corbyn who wanted Labour (because then they could have jobs in the party bureaucracy, like they had in Labour). Sultana didn't want the Democrats, she just didn't want to be shut out of any influence whatsoever, so she took up saying whatever left twitter wanted her to say.

The name fiasco wasn't because the party was divided (if it was, there would've at least been some good candidates for names), it was because the clique around Corbyn like the name "Your Party" and rigged the name-choice vote to offer "Your Party" (the alternatives "Popular Alliance" and "For The Many" were both jokes, and no effort was made to coordinate with the electoral commission and other parties to remove barriers to left/socialist/etc type names which is the kind of name most people would go for.)

https://www.thenational.scot/news/26016125.party-scotland-over-leadership-team-resign-en-mass/
The entire Scottish committee just resigned and are now saying they'll start their own party because they've been ignored by the Your Party CEC (for those just tuning in: Your Party aren't standing for the holyrood election because the UK party didn't care enough to register candidates)

Remember: The Corbyn (hanger on) faction controls the UK CEC!

>>2780422
Why did she do this?
Zarah is the face of all evil, truly.

>>2775314
>it hasn't produced much, but the same is true of whatever "true" grassroots leftism you want to align yourself with.
NTA but thats the effect the electoral neolib left was supposed to have, its existence prevents anything else outside of it from growing
in this sense it has been a complete success and not a failure
>but that doesn't mean it should be entirely written off
I agree but all needs to be subordinate to class from now on, that needs to be the new "litmus test" for the left
>unfortunately, here we return to the disposition of the average leftist: agreeable, open minded, and neurotic is not a good mindset for knuckling down to boring practical organizational work even before you throw in the need for conscientiousness/rule following, which is generally a trait more common on the right.
I wonder how the bolsheviks did it then? Maybe this framework of what defines leftists is self-defeating by design?
like, when you say stuff like this
>fundamentally, people's political alignment is downstream of their personality and disposition.
you have already given up to a class based understanding and delimination of politics and what being a leftist is or could be, it makes you sound like your mind has already been completely hijacked by individualist bourgeois ideology and therapy talk

>>2780501
There are plenty of freaks with their own little non-"neoliberal" non-left parties (indeed, most British "communists") qualify. They fail because they can't appeal to anyone under 60 or anyone who doesn't want to join a literal cult, not because the big bad Green party is bedblocking.

You do not have the power to subordinate anything to class. As Your Party clearly shows, the ultimate litmus test is "are you remotely capable of organising anything whatsoever?", only once that is answered can one try to organise on a class-first basis. (One would however require a useful understanding of class. The average class-first leftist really doesn't want to admit that most pensioners are something other than proles…)

The Bolsheviks existed in vastly different circumstances. You are making the Trotskyist newspaper argument (it worked in 1917!!) and you are confusing my empirical analysis (disposition correlates to political views much more strongly than class) with a normative one ("and that's a good thing")

But let's look at the Bolsheviks with a broad brush: they were surely the most progressive wing of their class, but did not have it's universal backing. There were almost certainly differences in disposition between Bolsheviks and SRs, and between left and right SRs, let alone other groups. Some misguided proletarians fought for the white army! My advice, if you wish, is that the Bolsheviks should not alienate natural Bolsheviks in a doomed attempt to win over the black hundreds. They should instead focus on being better Bolsheviks.
(And this is what the Bolsheviks would do! They could and would eject proletarian members who were insufferable dickheads with reactionary sympathies!)



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If there exists class conflict between proletarians and bourgeoisie and historically proletarians have established their supremacy in certain countries and certain time periods like the dictatorship of the proletariat under Stalin in USSR for example was there ever a place where Lumpenproletariat has won the class struggle and established themselves as the ruling class?
Would it even be possible for Lumpenproletariat to seize the power and make their class interest the dominant one? How would such system look like and function?
Is there any political party at this moment advocating for the interest of lumpenproletariat?

Who even constitutes XXI century Lumpenproletariat?
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Lumpen cops

>Lumpenproletariat has won the class struggle and established themselves as the ruling class
"What a country!" - retarded illiterate pedo Jeffrey Epstein on class mobility
>>2780043
>Lumpen cops
"ICE is a counter-revolution of satanic guys who can't do productive labor against devout Catholics who actually produce real material value in their communities"

>>2780056
Nah, lumpens are lame. They're like failed actors who become conspiracy theorists. Proles are good.

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>>2779227
The great Lumpenproletariat are being organised in fascist anarchist squats in order to march against any worker's state available.

>>2779258
The lumpenproletariat is just a scapegoat for the labor aristocracy. Fucking Social Demokkkrats scapegoat queer people and the poor instead of their own labor aristocracy.



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Is the key flaw of Marxism that all of its predictions are bullshit? Why do communists feel like facts have to conform to their feelings when Marx never said that? Marx was never a moralfag and based his ideas in the fact he believed the collapse of Capitalism was inevitable. 200 years on, and it has not collapsed or led to any sort of successful socialist revolution.

You can identify the exact point at which Marxists start coping and treating their belief system as a religion. From the Preface of The Poverty of Philosophy on Marxists.org:

>The above application of the Ricardian theory that the entire social product belongs to the workers as their product, because they are the sole real producers, leads directly to communism. But, as Marx indeed indicates in the above-quoted passage, it is incorrect in formal economic terms, for it is simply an application of morality to economics. According to the laws of bourgeois economics, the greatest part of the product does not belong to the workers who have produced it. If we now say: that is unjust, that ought not to be so, then that has nothing immediately to do with economics. We are merely saying that this economic fact is in contradiction to our sense of morality. Marx, therefore, never based his communist demands upon this, but upon the inevitable collapse of the capitalist mode of production which is daily taking place before our eyes to an ever growing degree; he says only that surplus value consists of unpaid labour, which is a simple fact. But what in economic terms may be formally incorrect, may all the same be correct from the point of view of world history. If mass moral consciousness declares an economic fact to be unjust, as it did at one time in the case of slavery and statute labour, that is proof that the fact itself has outlived its day, that other economic facts have made their appearance due to which the former has become unbearable and untenable. Therefore, a very true economic content may be concealed behind the formal economic incorrectness. This is not the place to deal more closely with the significance and history of the theory of surplus value.


Marx never would have said this lol, this is plain magical thinking
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>>2780259
>If the masses declare wage-labor to be done for
they will get beaten by their ruling class until they stop having wrong thoughts

>>2780153
The inexistance of a socialist world economy makes it impossible to do it in one country. How do you plan on keeping yourself afloat without a state capitalist economy? You must extract surplus value from your workers even if only from the purpose of international trade. To some degree all state controlled enterprises have a profit motive
>>2780224
Capitalism was always everything. Whatever mode of production you happen to be a participant of determines nearly everything about your life.

>>2779214
Most leftcom critiques aren't that great, but the better ones come from councilcoms who advance labor time calculation as the lower stage of socialism. The problem with the USSR is that workers had no right of disposal to their product, and were thus still alienated from their labor and society. Likewise the wage relation, commodity production, etc. still existed, even if their forms were distorted by the presence of central planning. You can't advance to communism from here, that's the central problem, you'd have to have a second economic revolution to truly abolish these forms and replace them with labor time calculation or something more advanced. The only thing a Soviet-style system can do is degenerate back into capitalism, which is exactly what happened, facilitated by the intense alienation of Soviet society and the general falsification of Marxism in the east.
>>2779610
Way to completely miss the point. Leninism is the economics of Social Democracy taken to the extreme: a paternalistic party-state which provides for the people, ensures fair distribution of wages and commodities while bullshitting enough theory to make people think it's "socialism".

>>2780149
>also how does one country develop socialism in one country alone?
By eliminating their bourgeoisie in the main and beginning the process of socialist construction through the rational planning of the economy

>>2780264
>And you can always jump to any other mode of production.
This is anti-thetical to Marxist historical materialism. Why would a prior MoP be reverted to unless a catastrophic loss in productive means occurs? Means of Production are, alongside the expropriation of surplus, the defining characteristic of Modes of Production. Yes it's true that once a more advanced MoP emerges other societies at a much lower level of development can skip the intermediary stages due to transfer of technology and state formation, but this chart acts as if for example the reversion from a Socialist Economy to a Capitalist economy was a reversion to a historical MoP which isn't true, the existence of a "Socialist Economy" itself indicates that the Capitalist MoP still has elements in society that never went away. This chart then replaces "Feudal MoP" is "peasant economy", I guess so it can sandwich together 11th century Europe and ancient Sumer together as having the same MoP? You know that MoPs are characterized in part by the Means of Production right?



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>grows massive fanbase of QANON believing Evangelical Christians
>said fanbase sees Trump as the fighter against shadowy pedophiles
>Trump on the 2024 campaign trail said he would declassify the Epstein list
>once in office he calls the Epstein files a democrat hoax
>uploads ai image of himself bringing life back to someone that looks like Jeffrey Epstein while looking like Jesus Christ

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>don't fight back against your masters you slaves… just sit tight and you'll get rewarded after you die

>and your masters? they're gonna burn in sulfur… trust me dude. so no need to fight back


greatest psy op of all time



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So according to Vivek Chibber what communists need to do is the following:

-Middle class intellectuals must create a party of dedicated cadres who will then approach the workers by committing class suicide.
-Some of these workers will be recruited as ideologically committed cadres who will then unionize their workplace, creating unions separated from the core organization
-There must be discipline and accountability
-Once there, we will somehow figure out how to solve the questions on how to organize workers in the face of globalization, capital flight, and so on
  • Must engage in social reforms to gain ground and then weaken the enemy using their own tools

This isn’t very different from what Felix says, the only difference being Felix wants to use violence instead of organizing workers.

There’s no excuse at this point. Chibber has offered a viable strategy, the only problem is finding cadres willing to commit class suicide
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>>2774547
Watch this video, especially towards the end he explains what he believe a communist party should do:

https://youtu.be/PvFmBW7PY7k?si=npzAvVCsPIXg7Ad-

I'd argue against trying to take your Tips for a Revolution from a Jacobin writer on principle, but that would be as unfair as it is valid.

I don't criticize intellectuals for doing what they do, because it is important. But the alarm bells always go off when the argument is "intellectuals should do this, but not me of course, because I'm the person writing about it, my job is to tell you how to do it."

I'm not saying he personally would have to do it to prove it's validity. I'm saying the reasons middle class intellectuals don't act on Chibber's strategy are generally the reasons he doesn't; "intellectuals" interested in The Revolution are smart enough to come up all of the ideologically valid reasons that they need to choose not to make their own lives worse in favor of that ideology. At least he's honest in his terminology. Very few people commit suicide, and it usually accomplishes nothing significant.

I met a Chibber fangirl at a local study group. She hates radlibs and is a qt. I need to figure out an excuse to see her again because she was only at the last meeting.

>>2773890
Yeah, they tried this in the 60s and 70s. It didn’t really work out but I guess they learned some things through empirical observation?

>>2778977
In that video I posted he recognizes that people from his class (middle class intellectuals) must be willing to compromise. I don't know if he plans on doing it himself though



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