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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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>>2809147
>jacobin

>>2809827
>subtenance
Probably, but he used that word, so I copied him to mock him.

>>2808692
Companies will flee to AI. No human in the loop is needed.

>>2808707
>Luxemburgian understanding of imperialism is wholly incorrect
It's not Luxemburg that promulgates that, but Stalin and his "socialism in one country" and Third-Worldists and their "labor aristocracy" BS

>>2810833
Was Nick Land right in the end about Capital going full automatized and kick out humans from the loop?



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thread #2

French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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>>2803125
Le front de gauche est bien quand il y a trop de parti différent mais entre les vieux carrieristes du PCF attaché à leur rocher à tout prix qui refusent de partager et les socialopes du PS qui veulent faire barrage à la HAINE et l'antisémtisme de Mélenchon en semaine A puis demander à faire alliance avec lui pour mieux l'enculer en semaine B… Je comprends que ça ne prenne pas.

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>120 000 emails et 20 000 numéros privés (+ les noms) de la FI leak
>le hacker affirme qu’il publiera le contenu des serveurs mail
Toutes les infos de la FI sont mises en accès libre à la seconde où Mélenchon se présente, on se demande bien qui est derrière tout ça

Mélenchon va gagner

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Frenchies, answer: >>2811046



 

i get disliking Russia's bourgeois government, since it was a product of the collapse of the soviet union, and the US-backed shock doctrine under Yeltsin, but i really don't understand the screeching about "ziggers" and the weird focus on Putin as an individual. the "anti-zigger" posters are basically 10x worse than the "zigger" posters in terms of their basic historical literacy surrounding the 2022 conflict. And no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes and tone down their rhetoric. It's hard to not have contempt for them. They don't even see how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR, products of Yeltsinism, pit against each other for the benefit of the imperial core capitalists.
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>for the benefit of the imperial core capitalists
ftfy

>>2810991
>capitalists
They are people's job creators, you stupid ultra.

>>2810974
came after troops appeared > basically a LARP even if the votes accurately reflected public opinion.

>>2810988
/thread, nationalists are just babybrain retards regardless of there chosen fixation

>>2810799
>no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes
if anything historical context would only make both sides more entrenched
> how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR
this conflict is in essence older than nato or ussr by centuries



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Hoxhaism, like other Scientific Socialist movements, had first emerged out of the ideological conflict during the middle-to-late potion of the 20th Century CE. During this time, Enver Hoxha, General Secretary of the Albanian Party of Labour, began to understand, and be critical of, the increasingly revisionist and opportunist rhetoric and polices of the leaders of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics after the death of J. Stalin. At this time, the powerful and harmonious socialist economy that was created as a result of the five-year plans of the 1930’s was slowly being metaphorically watered-down as Khrushchev and later Brezhnev ruled the USSR into the later part of the 20th century.

Enver Hoxha was further agitated by Mao Zedong’s “three worlds theory”; a revisionist and opportunist idea which ignored any sort of societal contradictions in favour of Mao’s immediate geopolitical ambitions. To quote Comrade Hoxha on the “three worlds theory”:

"[…] all of these terms which refer to the different political powers working in the world today conceal — and don't reveal — the class character of these political powers, the basic contradictions of our epoch, the predominant key problem on the national and international scale today, the grim struggle which is waged between the bourgeois-revisionist world on the one hand and socialism, the world proletariat and its natural allies on the other hand." (Enver Hoxha, Report to the 7th Party Congress of the PLA)

Enver Hoxha would seldom capitulate to Khrushchev’s careerism or Mao’s flunkeyism, however. Instead, he would later withdraw from the social-imperialist Warsaw Pact, and would end relations with the revisionist People’s Republic of China. Thus in the process, preventing the People’s Socialist Republic of Albania from becoming a vassal of either social-imperialist state or bloc.

Hence, from this ideological conflict emerged Hoxhaism – the continuation of Marxism and modernisation of Leninism for the international proletariat, free from the crass revisionism and careerism of the Khrushchevite-Brezhnevite Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and the petite-bougeois pseudo-Marxism of the People’s Republic of China.

After Hoxha’s life concluded in 1985, a large amount of Communist Parties, many of which located in the Americas, have taken up Hoxha’s example resilience to revisionism and careerism.

Hoxhaism, as it exists in the present, is the most potent Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2807887
he was making fun of the french, nuff said

>>2802652
you must admit this is a bit silly?
Marxism should be "revise" or "re-envisioned" whatever as material conditions change. The world is very different today from the industrial revolution
Not only that, but Albania never really progressed under Hoxha. The country still doesn't even drinkable tap water. Clearly Dengism or Castroism or even Juche are superior models.

>>2808070
>Albania never really progressed under Hoxha
you wot m8. the party of labor of albania basically built all the infrastructure, industry, electricity, technology, education, etc. albania has

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>>2807863
>idk they seem pretty lame compared to ICMLPO
Do you even know what the united front and popular front are you fucking dumbass?
There is nothing more "lame", to speak you prepubescent verbiage, than, after going out of your way to rebase on anti-revisionist, revolutionary Marxism-Leninism like Hoxhaists are supposedly doing, not dispense with one of the most blatant batch of revisionist seeds found in the simpleton directives of Dimitrov's years in the ECCI; collaboration with bourgeois liberal leaders (progressives like Churchill!), parliamentary cretinism and peaceful coexistence with capitalist imperialism. After your "Fifth head", Hoxha himself, at the end of his life, famously spend a large amount of energy tackling and critiquing the so-called "eurocommunist" counter-revolutionary advance; a political movement within the eastern bloc which was exactly a direct consequence of a process starting with the Comintern's 7th Congress. Concessions there from made into a battering ram, weaponized by the bureaucrat right-wing. In everything Dimitrov modified of the United Front with his Popular/Anti-Fascist Front addition, Stalin found the need to add absent cautious detail, clarification, grounding it in the united front conclusions; pointing to the Popular Front having no place after the fascist axis were no more.
Stalin was a Leninist and the Comintern gradually refined the United Front tactic, crystallizing in the United Front from Below during the 5th Congress the most universal tactic for the capitalist imperialist era, having none of the 6th Congress ultra-left mistakes. It was born out of praxis in the real sense of the word. To think 7th Congress 'Popular Frontism', pushed by Dimitrov, consisting of a right-deviationist overcorrection to 6th Congress, which was in turn a left-deviationist overcorrection in response to Bukharinite eclecticism causing chaos in the Comintern during the 5th, when it is the ground which revisionist stand on, is fucking sus. Apparently ICMLPO just concluded that the mantle of anti-revisionism just wasn't that important as Hoxha stans and, as a result, have handed the KKE that sword instead. Practically, that is (as far as I can gather) the case right now. KKE and their ECA international from 2009 onward, have a more ML anti-revisionist line than the largest Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

So not a single Hoxhaist actually is on leftypol to engage with the discourse attempted in this thread or?
So who the fuck made the fucking thread?



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>Rafael López Aliaga is a Peruvian businessman and conservative politician, founder of Renovación Popular and current mayor of Lima. He is known for his right-wing views, including support for free markets, strong religious values, and opposition to leftist politics. He is often nicknamed “Porky” in English as a mocking reference to his appearance, but he has embraced the nickname himself and even used it in his political image, turning an insult into part of his public brand.

El peruANO seniores…
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>>2810227
I feel like gozalo set that shit back

>>2810227
>Peru is a ticking time bomb to having a communist revolution
nah thanks to gonzaloids that will never happen

Why is Peruvian politics such a massive clusterfuck, even compared to most places in LatAm?

It's like Peru and Argentina are in constant competition for messiest political system.

>>2810227
Urbanization hasn't produced any political destabilization since the 80s at least, in fact the opposite is true: it is associated with collapsing civic participation and labour militancy (India is a very great case study here).

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>>2810227
>Honestly Peru is a ticking time bomb to having a communist revolution.
there already was one



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I've decided that I'll vote for socdem next elections in my region. There will never be a proletarian revolution in the West in our lifetime, so why not vote for something that proposes necessary measures? Such as regulating the housing market, building more housing, improving the public sector and public transportation, and reindustrializing. Yes, thinking about and debating hypothetical scenarios online is all well and good, but the reality is that it’s a fantasy.

Plus, the ONLY big Marxist-Leninist political party in my country is literally a bunch of literal nazis
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>>2810181
that's only the tip of the iceberg, there's a 300 pages long document written by ex members talking about all the shit going on, there were cases of abuse to people who wanted to leave the organization. They also groomed teenagers to go fight ISIS in Syria.

Literally all they talk about is immigration, the woke left and feminism.

>>2810094
fpbp do whatever you want in elections losing your mind over is like losing it over what capitalist product you will consume at the end of the day neither the wrong nor the "correct" choice change much of anything
>>2810270
you will be swallowed by neoliberalism and fascism soon enough too do enjoy the fruits of 3rd world imperialism while you can thou

>>2810177
yeah this and also forget about all that faggy nihilism even if the revolution is truly impossible going down fighting is still the better option

>>2810184
>>2810197
>>2810389
>>2810402
Oh so it's like a less fun and grimdark version of the ACP then

>>2810722
Kinda, but if you look at Falange (spanish fascist party) they look almost the same and talk about the same things. Difference is even Falange supports Palestine when FO doesn't. FO doesn't have any connections with any other political party from other countries since according to them everyone who is not a Hoxhaist is a revisionist



 

How do we change the American popular perception of the CIA? If you talk to the average American, their perception of the CIA comes from movies and TV shows, they are cool, they use epic gadgets and are all super smart educated talented people who know martial arts and lots of languages. They are eccentric and interesting individuals who command respect.

How do we get the average American to understand that this is basically an organized crime syndicate full of sociopaths who rape children, kidnap and torture people, overthrow popular elected officials for the crime of trying to raise the standard of living of exploited proles by nationalizing resources of strengthening labor unions? How can you combat Hollywood, big tech, and streamers who have a monopoly on communication and only seem to talk about the "cool" and "interesting" aspects of the CIA while downplaying or straight up ignoring the awful shit they do?

Please only answer if you actually agree this is a problem. If you just want to shit on me and call me stupid stay out of the thread.

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Qing Burgerreich will continue to collapse and only then will a cultural revolution happen

  1. Identify the horrors of the CIA.
  2. Drops large amounts of money into making videos hating them.
  3. Publish to Leftypol, Onions, and Progressive spaces.



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All the way back in 1980, a German social democrat drew a line delineating the countries causing problems in the world from the countries solving them. However, his life was tragically cut short in 1992 before he was able to create a solution to the top-liner problem.

What is to be done?
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>>2810244
A homeless man in New York is more a bourgeois then even the richest of Saudi princes !

>>2810272
The fact that there even is a bridge to sleep under is a marker of privilege

>>2810268
Cope, seethe, etc.

>>2810371
You will never be a communist

>>2810272
Saudi Arabia is no longer third world. they are a monarch capitalist dystopia that uses slave labor of migrants and cultural enslavement of women.



 

>belief is embodied through practice, not just felt in the mind
>credibility enhancing displays is "proof" that people "should" believe harder than ideology
>research shows kids will follow what you practice harder than what you preach
>if you tell them to brush their teeth but never brush your own teeth, they'll conclude it must not be that important

so if you just teach the kids communism but don't actually practice it, they'll just decide you're a windbag.

Communism isn't a religion, but these insights from religious studies should be useful for teaching communists how to build an actual praxis that outlasts revolution and a few generations of iron fisted rule

oh also

nonreligious, ex-religious, and religious people care equally about fairness and not harming people, but religious and ex-religious people care more about purity, authority, and loyalty than nonreligious people

>>2811783
>xyz study by hegelspookster university talking about moral norms as if they are transhistorical transrelational values
A lotta people will say that they support fairness in abstract but then vote for policies that harm poor amazon wagies so they can have cheaper labubus. Even on a purely interpersonal basis i've seen libs disown their parents because they don't want the burden of taking care of them. How tf are you gonna preach about taking care of the vulnerable when you do ts in your personal life brodie
Tldr moral values surveys are worth less than the papers they used to print the questionnaires

>>2811784
>How tf are you gonna preach about taking care of the vulnerable when you do ts in your personal life brodie
Hardly a hypocrisy, I cant take care of my parents -> I wish society as a whole took care of elderly makes perfect sense.

>>2811785
Charity starts at home though
In order for society at large to do this, people need to start doing it at home

>>2811784
This

Despite all the whining about racism and sexism on here, anons will still ogle and chase women, bemoan lack of young beautiful women and feel disgust towards brown skinned men



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A common criticism that I see is that capitalism is hyper adaptable to most circumstances and that it can't even really be fully defeated at all, especially from those who shill for it. However, liberalism and it's various forms of it has only been around for like 500 years. The previous order of despotism, empire and feudalism were around for much longer. While it's ability to subsumed criticism of itself into the system is potent, I am not exactly sure if capitalism is all that durable? Is this a weird thing to think?
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>>2810581
You do struggle with English grammar?

Saying X decays into Y means that X and Y are two different states of being, and that the object has shed its former properties of being X in favor of the properties of Y.
So in particle science, saying that Particle A decayed into Particle B, means that the particle no longer has Particle A's properties.

Then, in the phrase "fascism isn't capitalist", "capitalist" is not a noun, which would be "capitalism". Rather, its an adjective. Fascism is described as being "capitalist".

>>2810588
No, but I've had a very long day.

>>2810543
OP was using terms like "despotism" and "liberalism". I was more so refering to how liberal "democracies" decay into fascism because of the capitalist mode of production.

>>2810614
I was trying to convey the incestuous god-king variations of totalitarianism. I know that fascism is kind of like it but I think it has a different sort of appeal? IDK, people do worship Trump after all

>>2810614
OP was probably making a naive comparison, but despotism did usually lead towards idiosyncratic economic relations, that i would call palatial in a broad sense. Even in the presence of a state and bureaucracy, it often caused the personal property of the despot to be at least of equal importance in financing warfare and public investment, which can still be seen in later pre-modern autocracies like the Byzantine Empire. Roman imperium and similar forms of overlordship were also deeply economical and may be seen as precursors to later feudalist modes of distribution.



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