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 No.230612[Reply]

Why does mainstream culture jerk off programmers so hard? Every mainstream outlet, politician, corporation, exalts being a programmer over almost everything else (and STEM generally)?

Liberals are even more pro programmer than conservatives while /pol/tards claim to love stem to BTFO the sjw majors, liberals say moar women in STEM.

what the fuck is up with this? It's not like the west is equivalent to developing countries which actually do need more technical people to build them up, everythings already fucking built how many engineers do you even need?
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 No.230874

>>230842
they could be slaves and they'd still get the gulag for the harm they do to the world tbh.
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 No.230897

>>230842


its very competitive to get into google and most coders would earn much less
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 No.230907

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>>230834
I mean those countries probably actually prepare kids and build a climate for them to want to be programmers. I don't know what American schools prepare you for.
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 No.230926

>>230907
they prepare you for getting shot.
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 No.230935

>>230907
I guess because they are using an outdated schooling system its obediance and basically to accept everything being shoveled at you without question. Which is why sadly Burger College students are actually really shit at college. For one you are pushed to go to college through out grade school being told "You need to go to college to get a job." then when you go you have to take out loans just to afford to go to university. Since Burger Schools done such an injustice the freshmen to college is unable to think for themselves.

Now I went to be a programmer and doing programming because I want to help improve Archives in Museums and be able to not only upgrade them but preserve them as well. If that makes me a person to go to a gulag then so be it, but I feel that preservation is the most important thing to learn from our past to make a better future. I guess its not as selfish as most people wanting to get into it for the money.


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 No.220769[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.230846

>>230816
I seen french police do this too.
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 No.230861

>>230844
https://www.reddit.com/r/ColombiaSangra/comments/n7fs0i/someone_reports_4_injured_people_because_of/
(cont) woman reports 4 people are injured and police officers are pulling up dressed as civilians
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 No.230867

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>Overall it seems to me like an aimless protest going nowhere, with no aims, you can tell that their messaging is weak because they literally jammed the main street, stopped all commerce and business, and still couldn't get the working class of around the city to join them, a lot of them simply prefer to sit comfortably in the sidewalk with their newly found afternoon, it just reminded me of the carnaval, because of everyone seemed to be with another person, a lot of them couples, boyfriend and girlfriend, mostly partying, and buying shit from a swarm of petty salesmen, surrounding the protest like birds of prey.
I give you the title of honorary American
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 No.230868

https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/n75i1p/por_tratar_de_ayudar_a_un_polic%C3%ADa_sali%C3%B3_lastimado/
ESMAD dude falls down, dude tries to help him, he gets hurt by other ESMAD dudes
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 No.230871

>>230108
>>>/b/


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 No.230067[Reply]

How could Monero holdings and transactions be taxed? Transaction recipients and amounts are encrypted, senders are obfuscated using ring signatures. Even a state like China could not stop people from connecting to Monero nodes and making transactions, because there isn't a fixed set of IP addresses running Monero nodes, and stuff like VPNs and Tor exist.
It seems to me that Monero is mostly used by people buying and selling drugs online and by nazis for donations, so in the event of a revolution those people could hide their cash. If they get killed and nobody knows the private key for their wallet the money literally disappears. If they correctly set up a dead man switch that automatically sends all their money (through a transaction or by sending the private key) to their heirs it would be impossible to know who received it.
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 No.230380

>>230369
I probably can, I'm just a lazy ass. My Gemini account took over a month to verify way back when. The main coin I mined was Ethereum on my pro gaming PC. I'm still beating myself up because I sold all of it at $650 at the start of the year - it's nearly $3,500 a coin now, absolute lunacy.
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 No.230383

>>230380
Don't worry I sold all my BTC years ago in college days when it was around $1000, thinking that it was the top.
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 No.230782

>>230303

You are correct. But it's most certainly not fiat, same for essentially all crypto/absolutely all crypto depending on how particular you want to get in defining fiat.
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 No.230854

:^)

>>230067
(also the IRS mandates that you report any income from thefts and robberies and fraudulent activities
just to make things fair)
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 No.230863

I will never work, and I will never pay taxes


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 No.226189[Reply]

Why is everyone leaving California? Right wingers say that it's cause democrats are retarded but I think it has more to do with it the rise of remote work letting people with bay area salaries live in LCOL areas leading to an exodus. This is compounded by the fact that Denver is exploding which is a democratic city. That said I don't know shit about California politics and democrats are retarded so is there something I'm missing?
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 No.230001

>>229965
So where are all of California's awesome public services and public transport? It's just as shitty and underfunded as it is in Texas. If California had like universal healthcare or an awesome public transport system I would agree but that's not the case. So yeah while it isn't much an extra $150 in your paycheck is better than not having it, instead of going to what might as well be the wind.
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 No.230806

>>226231
California has had rolling blackouts and brownouts for decades.
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 No.230850

>>230806
Source please? Not being hostile. Actually curious.
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 No.230852

>>226189
Housing prices are through the roof in the areas with employment. Too many people moved there because of the weather and like, but it's unaffordable for all but the richest. So they move to more affordable ground. This could be countered if the higher taxes also paid for robust public infrastructure but California is barely trundling along in that respect, traffic is absolutely horrible.
So you may as well live in Texas where there's lower taxes as well as cheaper housing. I hope more rightoids move here to Texas so I can move to California when it gets cheaper. I don't like Texas that much, only reason to live here is because of my job.
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 No.231265

>>226189
taxes and housing prices I guess


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 No.230453[Reply]

Give me your redpills, resources, books on Socialist Afgahnistan. From what I've seen so far, this was one of the biggest shitshows in communist history:
>KGB kills afghan communist leader Amin
>US and China supports islamic rebels againt the Sovjets
>???

WTF was going on there??
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 No.230724

I wouldn't deny some reading material either for this and South Yemen.
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 No.230767

is the kite runner good
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 No.230770

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>KGB kills afghan communist leader Amin
We do a little bit of trooolling


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 No.230721[Reply]

It's a board full of /pol/tards and pedos. The two usually go together lol. I made them a special thread in anticipation for the weekend when we can celebrate the 76th anniversary of the victory against fascism.

https://kohlchan.net/int/res/11705530.html

It would be good to have a little fun there this weekend, wouldn't it he-he-he.(NYPA)
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 No.230727

>>230721
>kohlchan
what's this, the imageboard for Kohl's the department store? Never heard of it. Saged and ignored lol
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 No.230730

>>230727
Krautchan's replacement.
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 No.230743

>>230725
>>230727
counter sage
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 No.230766

Lol, they're removing the posts from the board and banning the posters.

https://kohlchan.net/m/

It just shows what a joke they and that board is. There is rampant paedophilia on there and it's been reported many times, yet it's still up.


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 No.229167[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Congratulations Leftypol.org for achieving 3000 unique IP's a week, may you live long and your Quantity and Quality both increase!


There was a sudden sharp increase in posters for some reason, I don't know whether that was because of the article or healing the split.
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 No.230340

>>230273
When d0llars payment for the servers lapses it will go down. Unless he hosts it on actual hardware he owns.
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 No.230348

>>230324
Nah I'm talking about some crazy pagan satanist girl
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 No.230500

>>230232
the thing with posters like Leninhat who have an obsession with a certain topic is that it quickly becomes apparent you will literally never change their minds or extract any concession that they were wrong, even on relatively trivial matters of fact. (I am still waiting for him to confirm the high circular error probable of WW2 airplane bombsights.)
depending on how you approach that, that either makes talking to them and reading their posts a fun sounding board to argue with (in the knowledge that you're not really arguing to change their mind or learn much new, you're arguing for the benefit of lurkers and for testing your own case), or incredibly annoying because you know what you're going to get each time. you'll just see a wall of text and a flag and know all the core beats they're going to hit, meanwhile more interesting posts further up will probably be overlooked because they're now above the attention grabbing textwall.

I'm being a bit unfair to use Leninhat as the example here: he's not a one-note covid obsessive (since he's also a proud rug seller), he doesn't usually textwall in /leftybritpol/ unless it's as part of an argument where the upward creep in wordcount is a two player game, and he's generally quite funny. It is for his sheer stubbornness I use him as the example. If Stalin was the man of Steel, Leninhat is a pashmina draped over a brick wall.
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 No.230518

>>229577
> arguing with dishonest posters is fun
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 No.230756

>>230201
fashoids don't partake in the discourse, they just shitpost

>>230212
same

>>230216
no fuck off, this is an anonymous imageboard
if you want your identity to matter there's always reddit and twitter


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 No.175072[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Feel like shit, just want him back lads.

Hello again everyone. I'm CPUSA Anon. You might remember me from bunkerchan. Welcome back to /log/! A place for discussion of Socialist organizations the world over. Feel free to ask questions, talk about your experiences, and share news about exciting goings-on in your orgs!

<Now for some general news.


Run Comrade Run! CP Gets Ready to Flex its Election Muscles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiJHdRKr7RY
>CPUSA is re-entering the world of electoral politics. American comrades can expect to see CPUSA on the ballot more and more.

SPECIAL BULLETIN; International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
http://www.solidnet.org/multimedia/printings/
>Available in 3 languages, provides statements/documents from Communist Parties all over the world.

IWOC: A Union for Prisoners
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.229881

>cpusa co chairs read Krugman and show critical support for the Democrats

Don't get me wrong, they seem endearing and earnest, but it makes me think all the twitter libs calling the party succdems aren't wrong
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 No.229901

>>225443
Stop glowing
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 No.230635

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>>226604
Made a thread on /hobby/ to honor you please come contribute
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 No.230738

>>230635
wow thanks I hope I won't be the only contributor lol
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 No.230754

https://twitter.com/HowieHawkins/status/1389913168357568515

Dare I say Based coming from the Green Party. Never thought they could get so redpilled


 No.229931[Reply]

https://tribuneofthepeople.news/2021/05/04/austin-revolutionaries-celebrate-may-day-with-combative-march-clash-with-police/
https://tribuneofthepeople.news/2021/05/07/video-international-workers-day-march-2021/

Imagine the day you'd see this shit going down in any major US city, let alone Austin. Let's get some appreciation going for the revolutionary masses!
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 No.230502

>>230409
>I've said this before but in Texas it's not insane to be a communist.
Yes it is, probably even more so than in most states
>Right wingers can't just use that as an insult and shut down conversation it has to seriously be debated.
That is, assuming they would even listen to you after you call yourself a communist and unironically praise Stalin. It's hard enough to get right-wingers to even get on board with coops.
>I'm seeing less "spooky socialisms" and more "they're woke!"
"Wokeness" is currently more widespread than socialist ideologies, so of course they talk about it more.
>The establishment hasn't figured out a way to deal with the meteoric rise of communistic sentiment.
Those polls just say that 36% millennials "approve" of communism, not that they are itching to become the new Bolsheviks. Also, the words "communism", "socialism", and "Marxism" have widely varying meanings depending on who you're talking to. For example, I remember seeing a leftist online unironically said that the New Deal was Marxist. Additionally, capitalism is still more popular than communism among millennials.
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 No.230565

>>230502
see >>230467

Yeah all the terms and definitions are muddle and you're average joe might think communism = universal health care. That's not a bad thing, that means even a simple succdem policy is removed from the realm of standard politics because it's drilled into the heads of Americans that the system can't give you basic needs because that would be communism so there forth communism is the only way to achieve those things. If that comes with the baggage of hammer and sickles so what? The current generations are far removed from the cold war that the propaganda isn't as effective.

>"Wokeness" is currently more widespread than socialist ideologies, so of course they talk about it more.


I don't know what you mean by this. First off socialism is more widespread than back when they were calling obama and the ACA socialism. They don't call things x because of how widespread they are but by how effective it is to trigger peoples lizard brain. Secondly "wokeness" isn't a thing. It's a vague term to once again activate peoples lizard brain as "something bad". In less you think the Wall Street Journal is being genuine in calling the PRC woke.
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 No.230607

>>230565
>>>230502 (You)
>see >>230467
Yes, I saw that, but that isn't necessarily how most people would react. The video was also clearly edited, so it is possible that there were other bystanders who didn't react so favorably. We also have no idea how serious the people shown in the background were, as they could just as easily just thought it would be fun to play along as opposed to sincerely approving of their ideology. Ironic communists are quite common on the internet, so it wouldn't be that far-fetched for some to exist in real life too.
>If that comes with the baggage of hammer and sickles so what?
Hammer-and-sickle isn't that bad, but I do think carrying around portraits of people like Stalin and Mao is harder to justify what they did and how they are remembered. At least with a hammer-and-sickle you can say "well, they had good intentions, but we want to do things differently from how the Soviets and Chinese did things", but when you carry around pictures of people like Stalin and Mao the implication is that they are roles models you seek to emulate.
>I don't know what you mean by this.
What I mean is that people talk about "woke" movements like Black Lives Matter, feminism, LGBT activism, and immigrant activism more than socialism.
>First off socialism is more widespread than back when they were calling obama and the ACA socialism.
That is true.
>Secondly "wokeness" isn't a thing.
By "wokeness" I referring to what leftypol calls "identity politics" or "idpol".
>In less you think the Wall Street Journal is being genuine in calling the PRC woke.
I don't think that that one headline from one publication can be used as an accurate representation of how the word "woke" is typically used.
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 No.230673

>>230607
>but I do think carrying around portraits of people like Stalin and Mao is harder to justify what they did and how they are remembered.

On fox news they are calling Biden a maoist or some shit. I think the public perception is shifting on these historical figures because obviously nobody died in Obamas cultural revolution and Biden is building gulags.

>hat I mean is that people talk about "woke" movements like Black Lives Matter, feminism, LGBT activism, and immigrant activism more than socialism.


4 years ago they were calling all those groups communist, hell like last year they were calling them communist. Why call them woke all of the sudden? Or at all? Those groups all have legit grievances, idpol and stupid solutions aside. Lumping all of those things in as "woke" isn't a refutation or serious examination. It's a way to write them off.

>I don't think that that one headline from one publication can be used as an accurate representation of how the word "woke" is typically used.


That's not one headline, it's multiple. Just google Chinese communist woke and you'll find dozens of articles from this year about how "woke" the PRC is. Hoover, Heritage, Spectator, Washington Examiner and the national Review all have similar articles. Why is the conservative media changing their language on this?

I genuinely think they over played their hand and communism isn't the scare word it used to be. It's backfired in that it's turned two generations by significant margins into outright supporters or sympathetic. Either by learning the history and theory or by lumping everything good as communist and making people associating the connection.
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 No.230707

>>230673
>On fox news they are calling Biden a maoist or some shit.
Yeah, Fox News, not your average American.
>4 years ago they were calling all those groups communist, hell like last year they were calling them communist. Why call them woke all of the sudden? Or at all?
I never noticed any shift in phrasing, so I don't know what you're talking about.
>Those groups all have legit grievances, idpol and stupid solutions aside. Lumping all of those things in as "woke" isn't a refutation or serious examination. It's a way to write them off.
I'm not trying to write off any of these movements, I'm just saying that identity-based movements seem to have gotten more attention in the past few years than class-based movements. I don't think that identity-based movements are bad.
>That's not one headline, it's multiple. Just google Chinese communist woke and you'll find dozens of articles from this year about how "woke" the PRC is. Hoover, Heritage, Spectator, Washington Examiner and the national Review all have similar articles. Why is the conservative media changing their language on this?
Ah, consevative media. It's just an old tactic of comparing ideologies and movements they don't like to communism to make them look bad. This goes all the way back to the Cold War, perhaps even earlier.
>I genuinely think they over played their hand and communism isn't the scare word it used to be. It's backfired in that it's turned two generations by significant margins into outright supporters or sympathetic. Either by learning the history and theory or by lumping everything good as communist and making people associating the connection.
I agree that the word "communism" is becoming less scary to people, although I don't think it's because of its use as a scare word. It has more to do with 1) the fall of the Soviet Union and the subsequent loss of a red boogeyman and 2) the economic struggles a lot of young people have faced since the 2008 recession.


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 No.205838[Reply]

I know the LTV is an important part of Marx's theory of exploitation and demonstrating the theft of surplus value by the capitalist, but is it necessary for most people to accept labor's right to the world? It seems like most people were swayed by the realization that labor is this kind of ultimate force that nothing can be created without and since they are laborers they hold a technical monopoly over it.

Kinda manifests in the way old wobblies used to talk about it "you work, they don't", it seems like when people understand that products and services can't be magic'd into being, they become more amiable to lefty ideologies. As opposed to somebody stumbling across an article on the LTV and cooming or having a bookslug spout a bunch of gibberish at them, it seems like this is the more effective form of argumentation. I'm not refuting LTV or denying it's academic importance, but can't you use the essence of the formula without having to engage in the economic scruples, which most people don't really have the patience for?
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 No.229193

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>>229100
Zachariah, D. (2004). Testing the labor theory of value in sweden. Unpublished paper, April.
>This article has shown that, in Sweden at least, market prices and labor content of industry outputare closely correlated. This is in line with similar studies done for other economies. Also the simpleLTV predicts prices equally well as the TPP. Profit rates are however neither narrow nor statisticallyindependent from organic composition of capital, which is what one would expect from the TPP.
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 No.229786

>>229123
No it isn't.
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>>205838
>right
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 No.230678

>right to Earth
spooky legalistic anglo thinking
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 No.230698

Labor theory of value doesn't mean what you think it means you dumb retard. How did Adam Smith start at the premise that labor is the creator of all wealth in society? Fucking stupid fuck. If labor already creates wealth in capitalist society, what is the denominator that leads labor to alienate itself? Which you fucking mongoloid illiterate fuck? It starts with the letter p you fuck face retard.


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