/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2798022
Are you sure you want to use this angel of attack while defending Lysenko?

>>2799080
you are my angel, come from way above, to bring me love, love ya

>>2798264
80% of this thread unironically shares your libtard analysis lole

>A.G.I
Automated Gooning Intelligence?

Humanoid robots incoming.

>>2798256
listen mate, i watch hundreds oflongform content videos on the youtubes where unqualified petty bourgeoise imposters summarised wikipedia articles sounding authorative. i watch videos on economics, computer science, politics etc. when i'm not watching these highly stumilating and thought provoking video essays by selfimportant twats trying to make a quick buck, i listen to podcats by thought leaders and critical thinkgers such as leks fridmann, erik weinstain et. al. i am basically a modern day davinschi at this point.

>>2797857
>buy

They dont need anyone to buy their products. They will just print money and give it to themselves. The idea is they dont need people anymore if robots can do stuff. So no need for producing products to give to people so they can do what you order them.

>>2798502
>>Grew up with a Christian working-class mechanic dad.
>>Church every sun day. Raised respectful.
>>Small town god's country. No room for antisocial behavior.
>> So the left and people in American cities feel foreign to me.
>>Visited cities they're urban hellholes, no stars to see, no owls howling.
>>Get why people in big cities are aggro
>>Got added to a Reddit group chat, told to come here with scripts to fight fascists.
>>Thought they were teaching me. Got tricked.

I don't get why people here think juche fascism is good though. Isn't Juche bad? What do OP believe if its not? Everything about NK looks cultish too me people in the group chat didnt seem like lying?

>>How I got interested in socialism

Don't laugh or flame like the left on ig does to me. I left Baptism and evangelicalism. Prefer Catholicism not the church itself but the community, the charity lifestyle. Protestants avoid the poor, see them as dirty a lot not always but the most popular churches of Protestantism are not like the most popular catholic churches. In Catholicism and Islam, martyrdom for justice is a big part of believing. In Protestantism work ethic replaces that. My leftist curiosity period started as a becoming devout Catholic. Lots of anti-fascist, pro-immigrant Catholics i didnt know. My family church had dog whistles about immigrants. First Catholic church I went to, the priest said "Blessed are the poor" multiple times never heard that before. Said hoarding wealth leads to eternal suffering, the catholic hell seemed to focus on people who are anti justice… very different from the dark ages of catholicism. My old church just talked identity politics for lost white people non stop. Catholicism pushed me from fascism to socialism, my perish members had a meeting and said i couldnt post nick fuentes or anti palestinian memes as a part of their perish, please don't yell at me i was young and dumb still am but im trying to better myself because when my faith group attacked my old world view idk it felt like the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2798506


i listed my background because i wanted people to give me reading or advice to understanding these ideas, how im wrong now not to be manipulated all that sutff based on who i am

>>2798506
>I don't get why people here think juche fascism is good though. Isn't Juche bad? What do OP believe if its not? Everything about NK looks cultish too me people in the group chat didnt seem like lying?
The further left you go the more distrustful people are of mainstream media narratives. Question everything you hear about any foreign state you don't personally live in. We have no fucking idea what North Korea is like, and the only people you can really ask about it are North Koreans. Not the North Koreans that fled to South Korea and are now TV celebrities who make a living denouncing North Korea, but the actual people living there currently.

All that said, you seem like someone that genuinely wants to do the right thing and I really respect you for being honest about your upbringing. I would suggest looking into Christian Socialism/Communism/Anarchism, whichever you have a preference for. You'll get a lot of pushback for being religious but most organized labor these days has a religious undertone to it.
You might get some value out of the Marxist internet archive's sections on religion and ethics:
https://www.marxists.org/subject/religion/index.html
https://www.marxists.org/subject/ethics/index.htm
Sorry I can't be more helpful with reading material anon, I was hoping someone else would reply because I was not raised Christian and have never read about religious Marxism. My background is Arab so I'm more familiar with Muslim Socialists like the FLN and the groups in Iraq/Syria that are mostly dead now.

When it comes to not falling for misinformation and psyops, I think it's something you have to develop through experience and just being hypercritical of everything you consume. Also just reading the basic Marxist texts to have an understanding of dialectical materialism and how nations operate goes a long way. Like, it's obviously in America's interest to paint North Korea as a hellhole, so if I'm reading any American or Anglo-targeted news about North Korea I'm gonna assume there's a slant to it and do my own due diligence on confirming facts etc. If you can't find sources for a claim lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2798524 (me)
also til North Korea has its own official translation of the bible and now I want a copy just out of morbid curiosity of what they changed from the south korean version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_North_Korea#Christianity

>>2798493
>>2798506
Since you seem sincere I'll give you some explanations:
Short version of Juche:
Massive devastation of North Korea by the American military during the Korean war necessitated state driven industrial and agricultural development to feed, cloth and house the survivors. The Soviets and Chinese lent a hand, but North Koreans came to the conclusion that they couldn't necessarily just totally rely on either. One might say that this came in handy when the Soviet Union croaked and the development assistance stopped, eventually becoming just standard trade with Russia and China.
So with those characteristics and the Kim family also taking part in the previous anti Japanese resistance efforts you've got Juche.
On it being "fascism", I'll say that fascism is used in liberal-conservative spaces in a very a vague sense of "authoritarianism". It helps to actually analyze the class fractions that help propel it into power and see what those class fractions do. You usually have aggrieved groups of downwardly mobile small business owners, professionals, soldiers, non organized workers and others who see capital plunging the world into crisis and want to create a "cooperative" system between national capital and "national" labor, and often wanting to annihilate those deemed beneath them. They also see Communism as a menace to ""tradition"" and their special snowflake ""cooperative"" economy. (The "national" bourgeois has a tendency to help tamp down on many of the redistributive aspects of the fascist program once they get into power though).
I don't think this really describes Juche, do you?
Here's some reasonably short readings on Fascism:
https://www.marxists.org/subject/fascism/conze-wilkinson/index.htm

https://libcom.org/article/nazism-and-working-class-sergio-bologna

I have heard people give high praise to Wages of Destruction for a long version of the German case, but I unfortunately have not been able to get it from my library yet.

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Who is the poster who makes titles all of his image posts as ClipboardImage.png? Easily one of the worst posters on this entire forum I have seen him argue against himself multiple times, bump years and months-old threads just to start up a new controversy, argue and encourage both sides of a debate to drag on a discussion forever, and make the most ridiculous bait posts.

>>2797451
This

>>2797451
Its just what happens when you copy paste a image onto here, or do what I do often and screengrab something with print screen.

>>2797451
But this is an anonymous board.

>>2796898
>victim blaming

yeah the retarded proles just cant help themselves, there is an evil mind control ray forcing they to reject objective information and vote for right wingers, there is nothing they can do to avoid this, they aren't accountable at all

>>2798860
No, the comments in every social media blaming "🧃" for everything including Columbine, Christopher Columbus, Slavery in the US
It's wild some of these people look for jews under their bed before going asleep

>>2798986
So you're telling me the censorship is so bad they need to use emojis to bypass it?

>>2798702
stop resisting my bbç

In the opposite of this I think that anti-woke will be around for quite a while. There is certainly a sort of hyper repetitive content from the right that I simply call the "Chud hole" or ant-lion politics where a deluge of petty grudges such as ugly people in media, general "cringe" from the left and poor translations are constantly dredged up to keep people who buy into that shit in line. I think the increasingly petty nature of the online left might actually be a good way to counter this because simply "going for the nuts" of the online right by just going no u when it comes to calling them ugly retards might actually wake up some people who are kind of chud curious but aren't fully buying into it yet for whatever reason.
Zoomer men in particular are vain as fuck and juts noticing how ugly Asmongold, Heelvsbabyface is even if they point out Agent Kochinski or some online transsexuals is enough to keep them out of the hole I feel.

>Lately leftists online (such as
who cares. grass yourself.

>>2797592
Jesus did not ask for graven images to be made of him
which is why the protestants replaced the crucifix with the cross

>>2795726
based video

>>2797371
Your small campost cock can't comoete with BBC

>>2799037
You said spreading the BBC meme is /pol/tard racism a week ago doe

>>2799038
I am doing it ironically

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>>2799000
It's less work to bring up a quote than explain it in your own words. I do agree that a lot of Marxists don't think for themselves much though
>>2798993
They do though. I don't know about your HS education but Newton was quoted in my textbook

>>2799000
>polisci
as opposed to economics, which is much more foundational and common of a major.
>Marx is required reading
in poisci you will at best get a (liberal slanted) political reading of marx, and not get much economic content at all
> His teachings are not being hidden from the public people just don't want to read
ok?
>you have to be able to explain things with your own words using modern language and modern examples and not rely on Marx to do all the heavy lifting for you.
I literally do this all the time, it's not that hard. And when I do it I get called a Marxist dogmatist by people like you because people like you accuse anyone who says the working class is being exploited of being a Marxist dogmatist, whether they actually are or not. That's why there's no winning this argument.

>>2799000
replied in the new thread

Platnerchads, we can't stop winning.

j'aime Trotsky

>>2774629
Le Sentier Lumineux envoie ses respects…

>>2770041
Here you go
floodsss

Il y a l'air d'avoir beaucoup de monde à République, allez, c'est reparti comme en 40 !

Newroz in Damascus. Interesting.

protest against the new anti-alcohol laws

Intense activity on the Damascus-Rojava front: Integration, job offers, and returns are on the table.
During meetings held in Damascus on April 16, Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) Commander Mazlum Abdi, Autonomous Administration Foreign Relations Officer Ilham Ahmed, Interim Government Head Ahmed Shara, Foreign Minister Asad Sheibani, and Presidential Advisor Ziyad al-Aish came together.
The meeting addressed key political and security issues in Syria, the advancement of the integration process, and the timeline for the implementation of necessary measures. It was noted that the parties conducted a comprehensive and detailed assessment, particularly regarding the implementation of the military, administrative, and political arrangements defined within the framework of the January 29th Agreement.
The main focus of the meeting was on the topics discussed in Damascus, the stage of the integration process, the steps that need to be taken along the Rojava-Damascus line, and how the situation on the ground is developing.

According to information we received from local sources, the question Ahmed Shara posed to Mazlum Abdi during their meeting – "When are you coming to Damascus?" – is noteworthy. In the past, it was known that Mazlum Abdi had stated, "Instead of a presidential election, I will be among my people and involved in national unity efforts." However, as this meeting indicates, Ahmed Shara considers Mazlum Abdi's involvement in Damascus a vital and unavoidable step. Abdi's move to Damascus, whether as vice president or in another capacity, is seen as critical for the implementation of the January 29th Agreement and for the resolution of political issues in Syria through coordination between the SDF and Damascus.

<THE GOVERNANCE OF A SHARED SYRIAN INTEGRITY IS BEING DISCUSSED.
There is a topic that came up between the SDF and Damascus even before the April 16 meeting. According to local sources, Damascus had conveyed to SDF-Autonomous Administration officials in previous meetings a request for an individual who could serve in the Syrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Although there has been no official statement from the Syrian Interim Government on this matter, it is clear that this is a topic related to the integration process.

<INTERIM FORMULA FOR YPJ
During the visit of the Women's Protection Units (YPJ) delPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

May Day statement in Kobanê.
The Democratic Society Movement (TEV-DEM) and the Kobanê Workers' Union held a joint press conference on the occasion of May 1st, International Workers' Day. The statement, delivered by Kobanê Workers' Union Co-Chair Mihemed Derwîş and Democratic Union Party (PYD) Women's Council Member Bedîa Miho, celebrated the holiday of the entire working class, especially the workers of Kobanê who contribute to the construction of a developed society, and who never shy away from fulfilling their duties with loyalty and selflessness and facing challenges under all circumstances.

The statement, which commemorated those who have fought for social justice, freedom, and dignity throughout history, said: “The workers' struggle in Syria, and especially in Rojava, is also a complex process due to Türkiye's attacks on infrastructure, ISIS's attack on Kobanê, and the sieges. In such processes, workers have faced harsh conditions such as attacks targeting their rights to life and work, murders, sieges, hunger, displacement policies, economic restrictions, widespread unemployment, injustice, and exploitation.”

In a statement expressing continued support for workers on the occasion of Labor Day, it was stated that the struggle would ensure the protection of workers and their families and strengthen the principles of social justice, and the following statements were included: “Organization and struggle are the only way to eliminate betrayal, exploitation, and social injustice. The only weapon of all workers is solidarity. We salute the resistance of the working class and emphasize that workers' rights are not a right granted by fate, but indisputable legal and ethical rights.”

The statement, which expressed wishes for security, stability, and a dignified life for all peoples throughout Syria and Rojava, included the following call: “We call on all the children of the Syrian people to see this day as an opportunity for unity and solidarity, to reject hate and hostility, and to thwart the conspiracies of those who seek to use the blood of the Syrian people for their own interests. Let us work together to build a democratic, pluralistic, and decentralized Syria where a dignified and free life is possible for all, and to strengthen the collaborative roles of Syrian and Kurdish women in production and resistance.”

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>>2748047
That wasn't in Damascus.

>>2797893
Changing the way things are calculated won't will industries into existance, buddy. And we don't even talk about how GDP is a false metric nobody's in charge of anything is using in practice

>>2797893
>>2798487
Also, GDP PPP is just a modifier on GDP, so it's shit as well.

I found out recently that the Chinese have been converting old J-6 airframes into kamikaze drones. https://theaviationist.com/2025/09/17/china-j-6-drone-conversion/

>>2798575
Big bada boom