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>>2512418
McPherson will likely win.

I hope Alberta UCP MLA’s get recalled.


https://actionnetwork.org/events/urgentbriefing
https://armsembargonow.ca/nomoreloopholes/

Canada is still sending weapons to israel, to the surprise of no one. Time to bully your mp

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>>2565980
Why are Canadian conservatives so committed to bootlicking ? They aren’t even nationalists like old conservatives



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).
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Did subcomandante Marcos really say that?

allegedly there is a controversy (that only exists bc of rumor so take with a grain of salt) that one council betrayed another in favor of their own interests(not stepping in for security or something like that), which, as a result is argued to have made it easier for the govt to overrun their specific territory. first of all, a tragedy but also confirmed a critique/bogeyman of this system where small town/council "nationalism" overrides helping others in favor of their territory's interests. anyone hear about this? you can try to discuss it but anarchists and such will call you a fed for even wanting to find out about it/clarifying details

Nazism is shit in all forms

>>2575989
anarchism as a movement collapsed this decade. there's no substance to it anymore, anarchism as it exists (or recently existed) would never be able with its network of communes to go against the bourgeois state. people hopefully realize this before lapsing into literal identity politics like the OP

>>2575220
I've always been interested in the revolutionary process within Catalonia/Aragon/Spain during their civil war but I've never been able to find anything that focused on that topic alone. Where can i find this?



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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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Whatever Betar is threatened Norman Finklestein by giving him a pager

https://x.com/Betar_USA/status/1992703463474491631

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>>2576019
Old meme from back when Jewish pagers were topical. I love Fink's response tho:

>You know…. people used to think Jews were smart.

>>2575177
I hate this guy. So fucking arrogant.



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>>2575760
Its a sign that western powers are ready to negotiate and let Russians enter different institutions so there can be a dialog. Trumps cuckoldry can also not be underestimated.

Closely related to this subject is that Jared Kushner tried to include a "christian alliance against China" in the the original 28 part plan which Russians were smart enough to dismiss outright. While not a big fan of Russia I have loyalty towards socialist states like PRC and DPRK.

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r8 the plan

>>2575506
God I love Luka

Shall I bake?




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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2574194
it secretly is a logic puzzle

>>2573109
When you think about it, a chandal kid must cause the most seethe.

Because using that system made it easier to extract resources. If they actually cared about human rights they would have abolished the caste system like in Tibet, but obviously that was not the priority considering they squeezed the Indians so hard for food that the bengal famine happened.

this is what the british do all the time, they always did that, there is no time where they didn't do that

>dalits are not even on the chart
dalitsisters..



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

A couple of things:
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How is this relevant to the left?

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>>2570854
>chomsky
oy chill bro he just diddled gentile girls nothing to worry about brahski

just typical anarcho retardo things

>>2575554
That Talmudic verse is literally about whether or not a girl who was molested as a small child is still considered a virgin on her wedding day. It’s absolutely not an endorsement of child rape.

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>>2575899
It's about determining the price of slave fussy, who are you trying to make it sound kosher?

<And similarly, with regard to a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant, who were ransomed with regard to the captive, or who converted with regard to the convert, or who were freed with regard to the maidservant, when she was more than three years and one day old, for all of these, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not subject to a claim concerning their virginity. When they married, their presumptive status was that of a non-virgin.


>Rav Oshaya raised an objection to the opinion of Rav from the mishna: With regard to an adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old, or a minor boy less than nine years old who engaged in intercourse with an adult woman, or a woman who had her hymen ruptured by wood or any other foreign object, the marriage contract for each of these women is two hundred dinars. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: The marriage contract of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood is one hundred dinars. Contrary to Rav’s opinion, the Rabbis distinguish between the halakha in the case of the intercourse of a minor boy and the halakha in the case of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood.



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>>2573131
thank you for your opinion on shimomuran economics.
Also I recommend reading prince of yen, or other works by richard werner. Hes the primary scholar who studies shimomuran economics

>>2573131
>any examples?
just the hundreds in all the previous threads

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>>2573807
>hundreds of examples
pick one.
>>2573578
no prob, bob. 👍

highlighting a difference between ancient economic conception versus the modern, as a difference between the role of the mechanical arts in relation to liberal arts.

first is the earliest text on formal economics, xenophon's "the economist" (360 B.C):
<Well, then, we agreed that economy was the proper title of a branch of knowledge, and this branch of knowledge appeared to be that whereby men are enabled to enhance the value of their houses or estates; and by this word "house or estate" we understood the whole of a man's possessions; and "possessions" again we defined to include those things which the possessor should find advantageous for the purposes of his life; and things advantageous finally were discovered to mean all that a man knows how to use and turn to good account. Further, for a man to learn all branches of knowledge not only seemed to us an impossibility, but we thought we might well follow the example of civil communties in rejecting the base mechanic arts so called, on the ground that they destroy the bodies of the artisans, as far as we can see, and crush their spirits.
https://www.fulltextarchive.com/book/The-Economist/
we may thusly compare this to the first modern text of formal political economy, antoine montchretien's "treatise" (1615):
<Among these three kinds of men are practised the effective arts, commonly called mechanical, having more regard to the hands that exercise them than to their own dignity… We note in mechanics the representations and images of the same prudence that shines in the liberal arts, in proportion to their greater or lesser merit… These are streams flowing from the same source and spreading incessantly through the necessities of human life […] Let us then consider the liberal and mechanical arts, where its light shines most brightly in so many rays; we will find them so necessary, useful and pleasant that the one we look at most will seem the most preferable […] I say this to shut the mouths of those who would accuse me of speaking to such high and exalted Majesties about things which they consider to be so low and mechanical…
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>>2572884
>I do not believe that Marx thought that value ratios are equal to exchange-value ratios.
>>2573131
>whats the difference? 🤔
>exchange-value is "value in exchange" (Ax=By)
In Volume I, Marx presented his model with the simplifying assumption value ratios = exchange value ratios. He did that for a pedagogical reason, since the first book was supposed to be the introduction. He explicitly told the readers:
<We have in fact. assumed that prices = values. We shall, however, see, in Book III., that even in the case of average prices the assumption cannot be made in this very simple manner.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch09.htm#9



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I was curious to know what you guys thought about liberalism. Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
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>>2524381
>science of Marxism-Leninism
how to tell someone you don't understand or like science, marxism or leninism

>>2549169
>was to the American Republicanist model in particular.
imho this is also the secret sauce to talking to burgers abt socialism, every critique they've been taught was also something absolute monarchs said about the american revolution(muh huemon nature, republics only work on a small scale, muh democracy equals mob violence,muh divine hierarchy,etc)

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i was researching freemasonry, when i got to the "lansdowne MS" (1560) which is part of the "old charges" of the order (english masonry only officially beginning with the grand lodge in 1717). what struck me is the lexicon highlighted here:
<First, there is no reference of the word ‘Freemason’ or even ‘Free Mason’, only ‘Free born’.  This might suggest Free Mason was not yet in use in England.
https://www.thesquaremagazine.com/mag/article/202101lansdowne-ms/
this is interesting, since it reminds me of john lilburne's notion of an englishman's "freeborn" rights (1641-9). was liberalism a child of arcane masonry (such that later liberal revolutionaries openly adopted the doctrine)?


>>2524222
>Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
What the fuck. Blumpf is just another liberal.



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Guinea-Bissau army officers say they have seized power; president deposed
The head of the main opposition PAIGC party, Domingos Simoes Pereira, has also been arrested, Haque said. “As well, we’ve just heard that the military is trying to cut off the Internet. There’s a curfew in place.” He added that the army officer leading the coup, Denis N’Canha, served as the head of the presidential guard. “The man supposed to protect the president himself has put the president under arrest,” Haque said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/26/guinea-bissau-army-claims-total-control-after-gunshots-heard-in-capital
https://archive.ph/F0LbG

Sudanese army rejects RSF proposed truce
Sudan’s top military commander, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, slammed the US-backed truce initiative as benefiting the RSF and the United Arab Emirates, which many in the international community believe to be backing the paramilitary group.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/sudanese-army-rejects-rsf-proposed-truce

Syrian security forces use gunfire to disperse rival protests in Latakia
Witnesses said hundreds of Alawite protesters had gathered to demand a federal political system in Syria and the release of men they say were unjustly detained by the country's new authorities. Supporters of the government then gathered and began shouting insults at the Alawites. While members of Syrian minorities have called for federalism in Syria, the idea has little support among the Sunni majority.
https://www.newarab.com/news/syrian-police-use-gunfire-disperse-protests-latakia

Israel lays siege to occupied West Bank’s Tubas, displaces tens of families
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Thanks News Anon


>>2575093
>Another Italian antifascist activist, Ilaria Salis, arrested during the Day of Honour event in 2023 on three counts of attempted assault and membership of an extreme left-wing organisation, was held in Hungarian custody for about 15 months.

>However, she had to be released when she was elected to the European Parliament for Italy’s Greens and Left Alliance in June last year.


Based

>>2575391
Didn't see that one, thanks anon




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Ah, look, look! [sniffs violently] This whole question of the hammer and the sickle—my God!—it is already a kind of ideological joke, eh? Because when we look at symbols, we think they are innocent little pictograms. But symbols—they are like those weird Slovenian pastries: they always hide something inside, something messy, something unexpected. [sniff]

And so let me propose—of course, in a totally irresponsible, speculative way—that the hammer and sickle is not merely a workers’ emblem, no! It is like a dialectical offspring, a strange symbolic synthesis, between the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent-and-star.

You see, in early Christianity—especially before it became this gigantic bureaucratic megachurch—there is this radical concern for the poor, the oppressed. You have this idea that the first shall be last, that the beggar is closer to truth than the emperor. And what is this if not the proto-Marxist suspicion that the ruling class is full of, eh, ideological nonsense? [sniffs]

And then, Islam—look, please, I say this with all respect and purely in symbolic terms—brings this martial decisiveness, this warrior energy. Not in the Hollywood sense of violence and terrorism, but in the sense of the angel with the flaming sword, the insistence that faith is inseparable from action. It is a kind of ethical militancy: do something, engage, submit not to oppression but to the absolute.

So what happens when you combine these? [sniff] You get the hammer and sickle: the Christian concern for the poor—the weak, the exploited—joined with the Islamic ethos of active struggle, of refusing to be passive. It is as if the cross and the crescent enter a Hegelian marriage: thesis, antithesis, and then—boom!—the proletarian symbol emerges as the bastard child.

And the beauty—eh, the obscenity!—is that Marxism tries to become a universal emancipatory project without the supernatural elements. It keeps the moral passion of early Christianity, the activist thrust of Islam, but throws out God like old cabbage from a Slovenian kitchen. [sniffs, gestures wildly]

So the hammer and sickle becomes this strange thing: a materialist Pentecost, a secular jihad, a revolution without heaven, formed from the leftovers of two great religious traditions, but now made edible for the modern worker.

And this, of course, is precisely why nobody wants to admit it! Because it reveals that even our most “atheist” symbols are hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Classic leftypol sniffposting

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