/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2700533
if you want a serious answer go read state and revolution by lenin

Theres the historical way it plsyed out pragmatically and what marx meant. Back in marx day he got the inspiration because if the paris commune where workers seized the loom factories and ran them collectively for a short period of time before they got shot.

>>2700668
Dat pic is peak historical illiterate meme

>>2700668
>Back in marx day he got the inspiration because if the paris commune
Marx was already writing for decades when the paris commune happened. manifesto was in 1848. capital was in 1867. paris commune was in 1871. marx was supportive but also critical of the paris commune, and the mistakes which caused it to fail.

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Whats the TLDR on the picrel rightist getting BTFO?

>>2700704
he went to bully leftoids outside a melenchoid gathering, he got acked

>>2700708
> he got acked
I don't believe it. Have you considered he already had a pre-existing brain injury and simply fell dead as his pre-existing condition was compounded due to his inability to control his high cortisol levels?
Will our comrades go to prison for this?

>>2700714

let us not fall into floyd-deviationism

the melenchonist bloodthirsty petit-bourgeois-lumpen-hooligans killed the right-wing faggot and as communists, we must say it loud and proud

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Idealism and propaganda

>>2700628
temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome

Zoomers are raised to be praised for every little thing they do, it's like a generation of narcissists who demand praise or else they lash out. They also want to be rich,

>>2700667
beat me too the punch anon, at least here in Burgeria where main character syndrome is basically official state ideology alot of people are allergic to the idea there just another worker who will have to actually work together and organize with a bunch of other workers. Instead there somesort of special indigo child member of the Elect destined to become a small business owner since there a good person with good ideas. If this hasn't happened yet its because [insert scapegoat of the month here]. The simplest way I could describe this is that they're anti-Sonder and anti-Society.


>>2700669
>muh genpol
>muh scurry young people
NGMI

>>2700361
Yes, that is exactly what I said.

>>2700312
>What if we can't get the recipe from the CEO?
CEO has no idea about any recipes. You should ask engineers operating the machinery.

>>2700361
>>2700312
Cola should be a once a week drink

>>2700406
No. It should be three times a day and they need to put the cocaine back in.

>>2700334
A lot of people claim this but at the end of the day it doesn't taste the same

>>2700353
>>2700367
>>2700360
So we DON'T seize the means of Coca-Cola production? :'(

>>2700404
The production is separated into multiple factories and assembled at the final factory so that workers don't know the recipe. The meme is that two people know the recipe and they're not allowed to fly on the same plane.

>>2700406
I'm okay with a two cans a week ration if there's actually some.

>>2700603
I'm okay with this too if there's a decaf option

>>2696814
>core mission
>internal affairs

we gonna be Gladio'd

You asslickers of the european bourgeoisie are embarrassing. You are chauvinists. You are supremacists.

>>2696879
The simple-minded europoller cannot comprehend this.
Their understanding of EU is:
Many countries together = internationalism = good and Socialist
Countries separate = nationalism = bad and fascist

The eurocommunist turn in the last century wrecked the brains of euro leftists

Sad.

>>2696879
Stfu and send more tax money to poland labor aristokkkrat

>>2700464
Myth of the hardworking protestant north EXPOSED

>>2700523
Maybe it took some time for that to occur? A slow burn if sorts.

Capitalists don't hate it, the bourgeoisie doesn't hate it, and reactionaries love it.

>>2700517
shut up. you are clearly straw manning. to say that there is a particular section of adults that is minor chasing and calling them "minor attracted persons" as if they are some type of neurodivergent group is some hideous mental illness on your part, or deliberate muddying of the waters. take your loli shit to another site, because that actually belongs on /pol/.

>>2700523
I was in school at that time too, it was just before the internet was widespread and the incel subculture arose, but incels already existed before the subculture, the internet is just the first time crystallized it into a massive grievance group you see today. before that incels were atomized and persecuted losers who were never in a position to find a collective voice by their very position in the social hierarchy of grade school.

>>2700494
also, all of this is to say that teenage women are pubertal, and if you are pubertal you are horny and will sleep with people. Just like younger boys will watch adult porn and jerk off to adult women, so teenage women will also be attracted to older teenagers and adults. The idea that because they are intellectually and emotionally immature, therefore they are not ready for sex, and any sex they have will somehow impede their development and cause permanent trauma, is a bit of an odd argument and I believe is simply just the post-facto justification of the current taboo that arose after age of consent laws were passed and internalized by society at large. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it only just tells us that adults have internalized the rules of society, and that those adults who are against it are usually like >>2700483 says prone to anti-social behavior. However, it is also just as plausible that the waters are muddied by anyone who has an attraction to younger women, because the spectrum of women from roughly 16- 22 can look very similar physically (though mentally the latter is more developed than the former… not by much admittedly, it is only at 25 I would argue that you have the development of an adult brain, and even then the degree of "adult brain" really begins to come together in the early 30s).

>>2700799
In other words, sexual libido and development far, far precedes mental development, it is simply a awkward biological fact that societies handle in a variety of ways. I do not think there is one "correct" way to solve it. Each way of attempting to regulate it comes with its own benefits and downsides. Imposing an age of consent at 18 will have its own pros and cons, and lowering it will also have its own.

>>2684652
>Marx’s Proto Zionist screeds
his what

>>2695602
anon will never elaborate. it was just ragebait

>>2684993
Lying is a bad idea, but I don't think you have to make communist symbolism central to the hypothetical Movement. I don't think the aims of socialism are that disagreeable to the average person as long as it doesn't involve establishing stalinism again or whatever. The key issue here is trust between the Movement and the workers, as well as confidence of the workers in their own strength. Another thing Marxists struggle to understand with their disdain for liberalism is the fact that society doesn't take kindly to party hegemony over politics. Many of the countries in the former Warsaw Pact face worse living standards than they did under AES yet they are more stable now. That's partially because capitalism and bourgeois society is not held together by a party of individuals or a single ideology that can be blamed for everything that happens in these countries. If socialism ever makes a comeback, it will be based on a constitution instead of a party.

You guys are retarded Fidel Castro up until he had power. He told everybody that he's not a communist and that he has no marxism in his ideas. Even in New York times, reporter who went up into the mountains with them for a long period of time, he did not believe they were communists or Marxist. It was not till after he got power that he said that he does believe in Marxism and that he's a communist

So it's like hilarious for some of you to say that this is unheard of or anti-communist to do. You guys really need to read up on history. It's evident that many of you don't read whatsoever

>>2684627
Bourgeoisie would react immediately to any kind of threat towards their properties and power status.

US Department of Labor reports 5,070 US workers killed on the job in 2024
A recent article in DCReport by Jordan Barab, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Labor under Obama, criticizes the administration’s proposed FY 2026 budget for federal worker safety agencies. Barab notes, “The job safety budget is just $3.68 per worker,” adding, “If budgets are the monetary expression of an organization’s values, Trump’s message to workers is: Drop dead.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/02/21/wtlw-f21.html

Cuban man’s death at El Paso tent camp was result of “spontaneous use of force,” ICE says
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials this week reported that the death of a 55-year-old Cuban man at a detention facility in El Paso was the result of the staff’s “spontaneous use of force” to “prevent him from harming himself.” Officials quietly updated the cause of death after previously declaring last month that the man died of “medical distress.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/20/texas-ice-detention-death-use-of-force-camp-east-montana/
https://archive.ph/16sUy

Hundreds of students suspended, schools under close watch over anti-ICE walkouts
Such anti-ICE or “ICE out” walkouts have increasingly popped up after Renee Good and Alex Pretti were shot and killed by federal immigration officers in Minneapolis last month. But experts say leaving school grounds is not a form of protest protected under the First Amendment for students, and Republican leaders are warning of consequences for those who participate.
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5745489-ice-out-student-protests-texas-florida-oklahoma/
https://archive.ph/gXhqg

Thousands of Minnesotans to be kicked off SNAP due to new eligibility requirements
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DIANE ABBOTT: The priority should be a plan for growth
THERE are widespread reports that the Chancellor Rachel Reeves will not introduce any tax or spend measures in the Spring Statement on March 3. This would be a mistake. The G7 economies are struggling and the British economy is among the worst. We are effectively stagnating, and unemployment is rising. This is no time for passivity. The economy is failing to deliver for the population, while the turmoil in British politics reflects that. Of course, any commitment not to make things worse for workers and the poor would be welcome. Doing nothing would be an improvement on the last two Reeves’s Budgets, which deepened the austerity that the Tories had bequeathed. It is amazing to me that it is ever disputed that this government has implemented austerity. This was the government that carried out the stealth tax of freezing income tax thresholds, raised energy prices and fares, pushed council tax higher and imposed sub-inflation pay rises in the public sector.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/priority-should-be-plan-growth

Israel’s Economy Has Problems, but It’s Not Collapsing Yet
In the last quarter of 2023, Israel was simultaneously reeling from the shock and trauma of the October 7 Hamas attack on the cities and kibbutzim of the Gaza Envelope and mobilizing for a campaign of revenge and retaliation. Over 200,000 Israelis were evacuated from communities bordering the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, and some 300,000 reservists were mobilized. In the following months, the Israeli economy was dislocated. Consumer spending, imports, and exports declined dramatically. Ultimately, nearly 50,000 businesses went bankrupt. Meanwhile, Israel’s global brand is in the trash can. Its genocidal campaign in Gaza put it in bad odor among progressive circles worldwide and across much of the Global South. But the economic disruption that Israel has experienced to date has been manageable for its leaders.
https://jacobin.com/2026/02/israel-economy-tech-weapons-trade

Ten Days that Shook the World by John Reed Chapter VI The Committee for Salvation
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tybna

>>2697573
>why is agriculture and mining subject to marginal effects (ground rent) but spinning and weaving supposedly are not? the simplest explanation is that both groups are subject to the same law
the marginalism of labour inputs is applied with the law of diminishing returns on each commodity produced. marx acknowledges this in capital vol. 1, chapter 1, where he says that technology lowers the value of commodities in proportion to output:
<The introduction of power-looms into England probably reduced by one-half the labour required to weave a given quantity of yarn into cloth. The hand-loom weavers, as a matter of fact, continued to require the same time as before; but for all that, the product of one hour of their labour represented after the change only half an hour’s social labour, and consequently fell to one-half its former value.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm

>>2697926
>the marginalism of labour inputs is applied with the law of diminishing returns on each commodity produced. marx acknowledges this in capital vol. 1, chapter 1, where he says that technology lowers the value of commodities in proportion to output
that's the opposite of a marginal effect. marginal effects increase the value of a commodity. this is the essence of ground rent. but, investment lowers the value of a commodity. the latter is what Marx is saying in your quote. both effects are neatly covered by optimization theory. it can be summarized thusly:
>value is marginal in the absence of technical change
the value of a commodity goes up the more commodities are produced
>technical change brings about economics of scale
the value of a commodity goes down the more commodities are produced
both statements above are true. it's dialectical you see

>>2694130
he seems to have misspelled project Cybersyn

>>2695337
>Open AI advertising on LinkedIn doesn't mean shit. I
>>2695380
>but it wouldn't be the AI "selling it's service" obviously

You're not getting it. AI that is cognitively capable of selling itself is labour. It's not capital like a rented machine. The same AI is also capable of being a capitalist. I am really disturbed by how the board has retreated into pedantry over this. Refusal to concede that artificial labour is here is ceding the issue to the Epstein class.

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-agent-rentahuman-bots-hire-humans/
>For centuries, people have catastrophized about robots taking away jobs. On February 1, the paradigm shifted: bots are creating jobs. Now, 518,284 humans—and rapidly counting—are offering their labor to AI agents on a new online marketplace called RentAHuman. There are classifieds to count pigeons in Washington ($30/hour); deliver CBD gummies ($75/hour); play exhibition badminton ($100/hour); and anything else you could possibly imagine that a disembodied agent couldn’t do.