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What is happening sociologically when radlib Leftoids in circles stuffed with permagrads endlessly go on about muh 'Strasserism' or 'NazBols'? Here's an answer that may be a bitter pill for some of you, because the Left rarely likes to use its own tools of class analyses on itself

https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/on-strasserism-and-the-decay-of-the-left/
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>>2749726
Illiteracy actually has nothing to do with whether you own capital or not. Literal fucking kings used to be illiterate. Really what is being discussed is the growing reactionary nature of the capitalist class and the growing progressiveness of the workers. Eventually the capitalists will be stupid filthy drunks, primitive savages, and the workers will be sensible sorts.

nazbol is the brony of political ideologies
started as a joke but now demands to be taken seriously
how about fuck off

>>2755878
  1. lots of policies that the public don't want are implemented. the basic instinct behind the very conception that allowing people to move around constitutes "being replaced" is reactionary and immoral.
  2. millions of people should not live in dire poverty, and the world should not be robbed of the positive results of their labor, simply because you don't like to see ethnic food stores and brown faces.
  3. why, applying the opposite principle, stop at the national level? why should (say) a small english village accept an influx of city people engaged in white flight? why should that town, too, not have veto power and say: "no, you city folk will not replace us!"
  4. every nationally-specific example rests on the basic fallacy that one country, and only one country, opens its borders. (and never, incidentally, the US - both the world superpower, and the shining example of a country that used to take most people from most places) were one to open all the borders at once, the population could redistribute in a more agreeable way.
5. in a grotesque second best, you could also always simply restrict citizenship rights while allowing free movement of labor. there are many moral problems with this, yes, but you'd at least make the poorest better off.

>>2749889
Yeah that's him, odd fellow. He is much more sympathetic now than he used to be when he tried to make it as an anti-woke columnist however but i cant teally tell what his deal is.

>>2755878
It's true but without mass automation it wont be possible to maintain a relative upward class mobility or even wage growth without importing millions of people. And most whites, even far-righters, dont want their bloodlines to be serf forever so…



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I really don’t understand why people think that the Jews control communism I know why people think that because Marx was a Jew but he pacifically said that religion was the religion was opened to the masses and corrupted people so I don’t know why people think that communism? Is a Jew thing when it’s more of a atheist thing
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>>2755225
Let's ignore all the communist leaders who were not Jews like engels, che, mao and sankara bitch

>>2755232
>>2755236
the nazi copes are either

A) that non jewish communists are "spiritually jewish" because communism "is just jewish because it just is ok???"

or

B) that non jewish communists were really just third world ᴉuᴉlossnWs who didn't care about communism and just used it as a vibe

>>2755325
>>2754038
>>2754050
>>2754115
there are a lot of Jews, both on the left and right, it's kinda hard to ignore

>>2753938
It's just hatred, they hate jews and they hate communism so they're the same for them, they've never read anything written by the people they hate.

The jews don't want you to grow turnips, fry with cisco and drink moonshine



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>>2745854
Sorry if I jump in so randomly, but wasn't there some degenerate campaining for the FDP going around public bathrooms licking literal piss and shit from urinals and toilets? I knew scatological humour was a German thing, but fuck…

Voting pattern of non-college workers in Germany during the last state election.


>>2751442
That's antisemitic.

RIP Alexander Kluge



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I wanted to share this recent video that made the rounds on the internet here in Iraq. It's presumably of a PMU rank and file, or the relative of one, expressing his discontent with the current social order maintained by his superiors. A far cry from the image users paint here of the 'homogeneous classless orient'.

On another note, while it is understandable, I still dislike the fact that people here are celebrating the death of 'resistance' officials who have massacred them in the past.

I don't trust that they have the foresight to detach their ultimately worthless deaths from the prevailing imperialist war. I worry that this may push some to campism, especially with the US mouthpieces' drool and screams for more proletarian blood. Many Iranian comrades share my same sentiment.

You must've really sucked to make Iraqis out of all people cheer for your US-sanctioned death. Well done islamists, even anti-americanism you ruined.

>>2750912
>the image users paint here of the 'homogeneous classless orient'.
yet you paint an equally false image of the 'homogeneous leftypol poster' in order to get (You)s. curious.

>>2750955
Very nice… now let's see how many armchairs in the general are cheering for the war to continue and to 'glass Israel' compared to those posting the everyday reality of civilian casualties and annihilated neighborhoods.

shii liberals dogging this thread like a bullet lmao

Aircrafts droning near my place again…

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Imagine my shock when I learned that US demographic losses from Great Depression were almost as high as what USSR had suffered from WW2 or WW1. It was like 10 times worse than Soviets' Holodomor, as it turns out. Simply terrifying what kind of horrors US censorship has hidden from us
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I kind of want to vindicate the OP, but upon reading the source, it's pretty much the same thing that bourgeois propagandists do when they use projected birthrates to prove that communism killed 100 trillion, but from the other side. Understandable for the Soviets to use this line back in the day, but hardly solid evidence by today's standards.

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>>2750210
>What if you were black? Or any type of minority at the time.
It was better. The post war period was when Blacks moved into the cities and bought houses from the GI bill and etc. Now Blacks are remigrating to the South because the northern and West Coast cities are hell for them.

>>2756101
Never expected a "blacks had it better before Civil Rights" take here but I guess that's par for the course in /leftypol/.

You're memeing right? You genuinely don't believe Blacks had it better in the 60s or 70s than today?

>>2756135
It's kind of debatable NGL. The Black middle-class has it good but de-industrialization hit fucking hard.

>>2756101
Certain parts of the south. I think it's mainly the cities of the south in particular places like Atlanta and Dallas or Houston.



 

Going out on a real limb here and being genuine.
I've got a really long history I'm not gonna Dear Diary about, but I've been around a bit.
Even though I was part of various groups that are Alt-Right I have always had various Left-of-Center beliefs. I felt like I was the only one that understood the
>socialist
aspects of various camps for a while.
Just generally after 18-something years, I'm tired of this crap. These are some of the most useless, in-fighting, bought-out, dogshit people I have ever dealt with
>and I've been to prison so I have a wide berth of experience with shit people
and I want off the fucking ride.
I can't say I don't believe in some
>"Right-of-Center"
things and I feel like they're hard-coded and baked into me. Some aspects I don't fully buy into, but I don't feel like walking away from because I don't necessarily feel like they are not incompatible to me with various aspects of Leftism.
>Southern Nationalism probably being the biggest example
>A few religious beliefs
I actually have read lots of Leftist literature like Marx and Engels and a few others. Maybe they aren't really
>Leftist
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>>2756096
something something useful idiots

>>2756129
But they're not useful. They're the reason over half of working class White Americans who overwhelmingly value their way of life and their religion want nothing to do with you. At minimum, these people want our total extermination and our wealth and property to be distributed at our expense. At bare minimum they want our total political disenfranchisement and our entire lives to be turned into a daily humiliation ritual.
Why would they ever consider anyone Left-of-Center when these are the people they tolerate and endorse?

>>2756096
>>2756313
You're still internalizing a lot of bullshit ideas. If you want to actually leave the right you have to let go of them.

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>>2756332
Let go of what - my grasp on reality? Let go of a lived experience in politics?
The Woke Left is nothing short of trying to create South Africa II or Global Zimbabwe, no matter how destructive it will be - even for them.
Anti-White and inorganic LGBT+ Radicalism must be distanced entirely from the Modern Left. The Left also needs to remember, again, that being a patriot for your actual blood-and-soil and not some abstract bourgeoisie(SP?) identity isn't antithetical to communism.
But the good news is you'll probably successfully exterminate White people in America at this point before the Left does something about this. So hey, I guess Epstein's PsyOps are gonna work after all.
It was also by-the-by a lived experience I had to reflect on that made me give up my own racist and/or intrinsically anti-LGBT+ ideas that made me eventually decide I wasn't gonna stay with the Right anyway. But hey, just keep feeding the D&C because it feels good I guess. There would be no Alt-Right without the SJWs, just remember that.

>>2756484
uygha you need to touch grass. Unironically. Stop being hysterical



 

https://gh.bmj.com/content/11/Suppl_1/e017221
<Beginning in the 1980s and 1990s, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank implemented neoliberal structural adjustment programmes (SAPs) across most countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. SAPs imposed austerity, privatisation and economic deregulation and have been associated with severe negative impacts on human welfare, including (a) declining real wages and working-class consumption, (b) increased rates of poverty and basic-needs deprivation, (c) increased neonatal and maternal mortality and (d) reduced health system access. Structural adjustment also created conditions for increased financial outflows and drain from the global South through unequal exchange. This paper reviews evidence of these damages and proposes possible options for reparations and distributive justice. We argue that the IMF and the World Bank should be democratised and restructured—or otherwise replaced by alternative institutions—to prevent further harm.

>I'm happy to announce this new paper — we compile evidence on the extraordinary harms caused by IMF and World Bank structural adjustment programmes in the global South since the 1980s.


>The empirical record is devastating: documented negative impacts on wages, poverty, inequality, maternal mortality, infant mortality, healthcare access, etc.


>SAPs inflicted misery on the periphery in order to curtail their consumption, scupper independent development, and make labour and resources more cheaply available for the core.


>As indicated at the bottom of the article, this piece is part of the Walter and Patricia Rodney Commission on reparations. The Commission includes a total of 10 contributions, 5 of which are published here in the BMJ Global Health

https://gh.bmj.com/content/11/Suppl_1

Thanks OP I look forward to reading it

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good thread.

Someone @Ben Norton on Twitter immediately.



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>Previous Bake
>>2752994

<Iran's wave 100th anniversary!


Latest News
>Oil price still rising despite Monday's market gaming by Trump
<(from the last thread:) X will not allow people to earn bucks from commenting outside their region (?)
>Iran has secret doomsday weapon
<Trump says he and Ayatollah will control Hormuz (>pool< still closed)
>Kuwait without power
<Oil facility was blown up in Valero, Texas, on Sunday (causes unknown) (delete next thread)
>Various areas of Israel without power.

>Important Links:

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>>2756177
>mujahedeen were alao backed by Iran
Iran wasn't based yet at the time

is inflation that much of a problem? Oh well, get fucked

holy fizzle

>>2756111
Also a dirty bomb that could kill that many 1000s of people would lethally irradiate the wearing before he could get to the target

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whats going on here



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THE AESTHETICS OF COMMUNISM

This thread will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ), including New Afrika, Aztlan (in a Hispano-American SFSR that includes all the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad, Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Newfoundland should be indepenedent. Their government got revoked by the British in the Interwar period.

>>2729534
Newfoundland fails to meet Stalin’s definition of the Nation as “a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture” so it should remain part of the Anglo-American SFSR of the future Global USSR due to being majority populated by English-speaking White Settlers, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2755437
Why are you an anglo chauvinist who will not give self determination for native american nations or Cornwall?

>>2755440
I made the Native American Reservations/Nations ASSRs because most of them are not big enough to be SSRs, and the fact that the Cornish language is essentially dead and the Cornish people seem to have thoroughly blended into the ethnic English population, means that Cornwall fails to meet Stalin’s definition of the Nation as “a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture”, though if the rumors of small scale Cornish language revival turn out to be true and it can be proven that a majority of Cornwall’s population are actually Cornish, then you could justify creating a Cornish ASSR of the English SSR, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2545468
> This thread will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur […]

Literally idealism.



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> Be me
> Hanging out with my less radical comrade and his lib friend.
> Starts discussing capitalism with comrade because that's what we always do.
> Lib friend butts in and gives the usual lib response "Yeah I agree but isn't that a bit radical?"
> NeuronActivated.Jpeg
> *Long Yap Sesh about free healthcare, the state and workplace democracy.*
> Comrade starts talking to lib friend
> "Bluegrass is a great debator, I don't think I've seen him lose a single debate."
> This flatters me a bit, I never really thought I was that good of a debator, I really only have surface level knowledge about the topics I debate but I guess that's enough to be considered a master debator when you're debating libs.
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>>2755240
That's when you humbly say oh I don't like debating I just want a discussion.

>>2755240
I mostly advise people who disagree with me to go kill themselves so probably not

>>2755353
the only way to truely win a debate is to kill the person youre debating

i always use the columbo tactic. i pretend to not know much about politics and just ask questions so the other person can reach a conclusion on their own

>>2755240
I'm pretty good at debating cause my father is kinda an IRL debate addict
and well, Im articulate and passionate enough about politics that people dont challenge me much, so its more often discussion, some even ask unprompted for my opinion or perspective on things happenings (iran war for example) which is pretty flattering I admit



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