/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2933874
I guess he really is inevitable. I accept my fate. See you at the voting booth, anon.

>>2934183
>I guess he really is inevitable.
Qrd on Lasalle?
I am new to communism so I only know him from Marx's rants and the Watchman State.

>>2931748
Possibly it is due to perceptions of scarcity. Generally, rightists believe that there are not enough resources to go around so we should decide who to throw under the bus to make sure the in-group gets their due, while leftists generally believe there are plenty of resources to go around but that they are unfairly distributed. In your case, playing with this ad-hoc, we might imagine that an impression of scarcity is created by the prospect of the business failing, but once you do your work and know the business is safe, the perception of scarcity recedes.

>>2935938
> that an impression of scarcity is created by the prospect of the business failing, but once you do your work and know the business is safe, the perception of scarcity recedes.
>leftists generally believe there are plenty of resources to go around but that they are unfairly distributed
Thank you for the intelligent post.
Have a (you) deer leftychud

>>2934951
>Is capitalist exchange fraudulent? Yes or no?
No.
>You are concerned with the forms in which capitalism appears, but everybody in society (i.e. except Marxists) knows that what is purported to be sold is "labour". It is in every economic textbook (i.e. except Marxists') that the "commodity" which is sold to employers is "labour".
Nobody cares about what "every economic textbook" says, retard. The discussion at hand are your distortions of Marx.
>Precisely. But capitalist exchange is evidently fraudulent.
No, it isn't, dumbfuck. The wage contract is fulfilled; the worker is paid the value of labor-power, which is what the worker agrees to when he or she is hired. Fraud would be refusing to pay or deception.
>Yes – the capitalist purchases "labour" but undercuts it.
No, the capitalist purchases labor-power and pays it its full value. The "undercut" is the difference between value created and value paid for labor-power.
>But you're literally positing an internal contradiction.
Retard. Equivalent exchange and appropriation without equivalent coexist. That’s Marx's point.
>You don't know what theft is. That's your problem.
Appropriation of unpaid labor through a property relation, NOT through fraud in the exchange of labor-power.
>So then, property rights are metaphysical? They exist as a claim outside of its immanent social forms? You can "steal" from someone even if the state or society does not recognise it as theft?
>Marxists only believe in metaphysical property, clearly.
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>>2935012
You're hopeless at the moment.
I pray that one day you come to reason.
Best of luck to you and I hope you have a great life. 🙏

>>2935027
>I give up, but I'm gonna whine about how you're le hopeless to save face
Surrender accepted, but I could do without your coping.

>>>/leftypol/2934951
>completely gives up at the sight of a captcha
holy shit

>>2934908
>There is no cherrypick.
How many cherries do you have? Repeatedly referring to the same passage does not count as several quotations.
>In chapter 7 (your quote), Marx says the worker suffers "by no means an injury"
As was pointed out in >>2934309 already, the original word is Unrecht = injustice.
>because labor-power is bought at its value, there is no fraud that occurs at the point of sale. But the theft is not located in the wage contract; it arises in production
This amounts to poetry (derogatory).

There are two types of theft, a person steals A) by sneaky means or B) by violent means. Which one is it? A kid who fails at being sneaky fails at stealing from me. The capitalist process is intransparent. Some of the time I am working covers the cost of my wage and I work for some time beyond that point, but no bell rings to tell me when the switch happens. Suppose I hacked into the accounting database of my boss. Then I would know. Now, what do I do with that knowledge? Me become aware of the sneaky surplus-extraction switch point (picture a big ❗ popping up over my head) does not undo shit here. So yeah, there is something sneaky about the whole state of affairs, but it is not A). So is it B) then? Does my boss hold a gun to my head? No.

Is this concept to narrow and brittle? How about this, then: We might posit that capitalists are violent as a group and they steal together as a group. Does that work. Well, Dühring said something like that. He spoke of the capitalist as the "man with the rapier in hand" and Engels mocked him mercilessly for that. The police and army are the armed people protecting the state, but these armed people are not identical with the capitalists nor are they simply a sub-group of the capitalists, and besides, all these people together and all the capitalists would have no chance against the organized massive majority of the rest of society who C O N S E N T to capitalist society, as frustrating as that fact of life is.

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>>2929475
>Stalin was willing to sign a peace deal with Germany as late as 1943
where'd you get that from even? random rumours from glup shitto generals?

wvobblyfaggot and moffinzankarin shitalian gulag

NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THE GULAGS JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE DOWNVOTES YOU'LL GET ON REDDIT THAT'S REAL BAD

USA has a bigger prison population than the soviet gulags ever had, is amerikkka the real gulag archipelago? What even goes on there? We need a brave refugee to write us a book about it.

Mentally unwell narcissist is why

>>2935066
last night my own mom (extremely progressive lifelong left wing voter) sent me the video of that fat comicbook/videogame guy getting kicked around trying to defend his small nerd shop. A week ago she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.

I can guarantee you the optics are terrible on both sides.

Mort aux voleurs

>>2935813
I agree, cops should die

>>2935394
Fascists defer all thought to the hivemind (a upper class pedo)

>>2935767
>she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.
sounds like the ones shes calling out are "the bastard thugs exploiting the cause" and not "the protesters". And the inability of police to actually protect shit while still doing ultra violent repression of pacific protesters isnt a good look for them either.
and honestly the looting is the only annoying material consequence for the government, without it they would just beat up protesters and not even have to look incompetent, unable to control the situation and forced to pay reparations

hideous

Moved to >>>/siberia/833449.

>>2935311
because it embraced nihilist sharty culture

>>2935311
because it is another mass-MKULTRA project by the thielbots and their army of LLMs to make people stupid and insane

>>2935311
>The bordy is now more active than this place lol
HORRY FUGGEN SHET

>>2935311
Yo my sincere gratitude to you bordy guys for taking a good chunk of the garbage away from this website keep up the good work

>>2935311
Thank god bordigayfags are finally fucking off

>>2934616
Will this result in anything? Very slim chance its a possible terrorist attack

5 minutes before the vote on alberta having the actual vote happens

I bet $100 dollars it wont pass

Alberta Liberation Army status?

CBC called it for Remain.

Florida files arrest warrant for Raúl Castro, 30 years after Brothers to the Rescue shootdown
Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier announced Monday that the state has secured an arrest warrant for former Cuban leader Raúl Castro in connection with the 1996 Brothers to the Rescue shootdown — nearly 30 years after four men were killed.
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida/2026/10/19/florida-ag-to-hold-news-conference-at-fiu/

Orange County teamsters strike affects landfills, public works services
“Our strike has impacted so much, and we only did it because we were forced to do it,” said Eric Jimenez, Secretary-Treasurer and Principal Officer of Teamsters Local 952, on day 2 of the strike. “What has it impacted? The animal shelters, the roads, the waterways, the landfills. All of that is being impacted for one reason and one reason only. Because the county officials have chosen to wage war against you and the workers of Orange County. They can do the right thing by coming back to us and giving us a fair offer that will put you back to work.”
https://ktla.com/news/orange-county/orange-county-workers-strike-picket-lines/

Justice Department charges more than 2 dozen in California sweep targeting alleged noncitizen voters
Federal officials on Monday blamed California officials for the alleged crimes, accusing them of facilitating noncitizen voting through inadequate voter roll maintenance and hiding it from the public. The charges escalated a simmering voter roll fight that came into focus last week when the Justice Department sued California and warned that local election workers who knowingly process or tabulate ballots submitted by noncitizen voters are at risk of investigation and potential prosecution.
https://apnews.com/article/california-election-justice-department-60e3dd468f43e0e8a32e6bf69341f189

Massachusetts lieutenant governor candidate ends campaign after arrest
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Tybna

Communist Party of Albania backs student protests against Rama, denounces police repression
The Communist Party of Albania (PKSH) has expressed its full support for the ongoing student protests against the government of Prime Minister Edi Rama, condemning police repression and calling on workers and the broader population to stand alongside the protesting youth. In a statement published by party chairman Qemal Cicollari, the PKSH described the students' demands as entirely just and legitimate, denouncing high education fees, deteriorating living conditions and the hardships faced by young people under capitalism.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/10/communist-party-of-albania-backs-student-protests-against-rama-denounces-police-repression.html

Inflation Watch: How Does In-Store Price Manipulation Bias Our Inflation Data?
The Guardian has had a series of pieces in the last year looking at ways that stores and landlords rip off customers and tenants. In the case of stores, one piece found evidence that convenience stores charge prices at the checkout counter that are higher than the price listed on the shelf. A prior piece reported that Dollar stores also frequently charge people more than the shelf price. Another one reported on fees and fines that landlords often impose on top of rent. In addition to these practices being unethical, and likely illegal, they also raise the question of whether they may lead to an understatement of inflation in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and other measures of inflation. The problem from the standpoint of the CPI is that the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) price checkers would be recording the prices listed on the shelves. If the price people get charged when they pay at the checkout counter is higher than the shelf price, then the data they collect would be understating the true price of the product. There is a similar story with rental fees. If landlords start to tack on fees for items that would ordinarily be covered by rent (e.g. garbage collection or normal maintenance) and these fees are not accurately reported to the BLS survey person, then the data would be understating the true rent that people are paying. Whether these practices affect the CPI in an importaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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