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Killing kids? Fine.
Smoking weed? HELL NO YOUR GOING TO JAIL!

Isn't there this thing called the 9th amendment right to bodily autonomy? That would make a law to send suicidal people to jail under attempted suicide under the Self-murder laws. It would be nonsense. Drug policy is unconstitutional.

>>2654170
Its created an unconstitutional bloodsucker carceral state.

>>2654173
Fentanyl is legal. Cannabis isn'f.



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>US is threatening with military action inside Mexican territory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NVpQjPjpdA

>The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration alerted airlines about possible military activity and interference with the Global Navigation Satellite System when flying over Mexico, Central America, and South America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9C4y8H4PJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiu3Bn-Ayho

>Trump is demanding the Mexican government to turn in polititians involved in drug trade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HTuXzNsxlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d87QtGAExY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVp-Of1TFvo

>In recent months, Mexico has started to detain more and more criminals, recently, they have detained people wanted by the FBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwBL5F-hcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBB7V8jU78
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A 3rd world country is corrupt so the empire is right to steal its resources on a false pretext

>>2653610
Are you retarded? The current mexican state already give all resources to the US

>>2653612
Why do you welcome american invasions of other countries

>>2653682
Mexico is already BOG (Burger Occupied Government)

The president we have is very wise and smart. If they try to exert violence, they will be met with severe consequences.



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Thread dedicated to 20th century cultural products NOT just coming from the USSR but the entirety of the communist bloc. Comrades on /leftypol/ need to familiarize themselves with superior socialist culture.

This thread promotes sharing:
>music (popular and modern/composed)
>movies, cartoons
>toys
>newspapers
>etc.
from 20th century AES.

Please act in a civil manner and shit on capitalist culture.
thx

>Cute ears that captured the world: The miracle of Russian Cheburashka

<How a Soviet cartoon about loneliness, friendship, and hope turned into the country’s biggest modern film success
https://swentr.site/pop-culture/631093-cute-ears-that-captured-world/

One of the biggest redpills for me was just looking at AES vs. capitalist cartoons from the era.

capitalist
>aggression
>sex
>GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT

AES
>solidarity, morality, ethics, anti-imperialism
>avant-garde + socreal
>serves the common interest over profit motive

vidrel: Czechslovak cartoon about KRABI

Even politically repressed artistic talents in the USSR were superior to politically repressed artistic talents in the USA.

vidrel major example: absolutely mind-blowing modernist genius

yes, he was a Christ-cuck, but a Christ-cuck that emerged from a socialist country, molded by it, and achieved never before seen artistic heights

mandatory



 

I am genuinely worried about the current state of the America. They are trying to take all neighboring countries and former territories like Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal, then remove remove all cold-war-era independent countries like Cuba and Iran, Then completely Vassalize the rest of Europe and NATO and turn them all into giant Kosovos. The goal here is to starve China until it collapses and then America can usher in a Techno-Fuedelist-Fascist world order. This is not gonna work obviously but I would still like to do something from within because all American Leftists need to lock in.

>promises 30 seconds
>Is only 18 seconds
Shonder Wowzen is a hack

Birth strikes

It's that fucking simple

You leave the country, you become an immigrant worker in another place.

Not having kids is a good start as anon said.
You should also constantly demoralize your fellow burgers.
Then move to another country.

Do the maximum damage possible.

Burn it all down. Become structurally anti-US, instead only in thoughts or words.

as the chinese do

do nothing

as the woke chuddha would say

nothing ever happens

as the kind grandfather Chudin would say

Nothing is to be done



 

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>>2652260
more anti maCHUDO drama. it seems there are factions within the trump administration and that also plays a role on whether they rally for her or not.

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Then I saw her face, now I'm a Bolivar
Not a trace, of doubt in my mind

Free my boy

>>2653928
>infographikkks show
i hate this US state dept soy shit so fucking much lol

>>2653273
lol it's so funny because everyone was calling trump an idiot during his first term, there's like a 99% chance you have an anti-trump tweet if you were involved in politics in 2016



 

Support
> Collective land ownership through state-assigned kleroi (allotments) worked by helots.
> Mandatory communal meals (syssitia) for all citizens, funded by individual contributions.
> State-enforced austerity and discouragement of private wealth and luxury.
> Public upbringing (agoge) for all male citizens from age 7, minimizing family unit primacy.
> Citizens referred to as "peers" or "equals" (homoioi), ideologically downplaying class distinction.
> State-controlled education and lifestyle, subordinating individual choice to collective needs.
> Iron currency to discourage trade and accumulation of private portable wealth.
> Military service as the primary citizen vocation, not private farming or trade.
> Redistribution of land
> Theoretical common ownership of helots (state slaves) as a productive resource.
> Strong social pressure toward conformity and equality in daily life among citizens.
Against
< System based on a hereditary elite (Spartiates) dominating a enslaved majority (helots).
< Wealth disparities existed and grew among Spartiates despite official austerity.
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>>2653075
Were they masc4masc?

>Most of the "against" facts typical of the average state bureaucracy, including the Soviet nomenklatura.
Not unless you believe the most outlandish liberal propaganda about the USSR. Sparta was a brutal and rigid class society in which a tiny minority violently terrorized and exploited the vast majority of the population, who were somewhere between slaves and serfs. The final test to graduate from the agoge and become a Spartan citizen was to murder a random helot. They literally hunted their exploited class for sport. It was not socialist by any absurd stretch of the imagination. If you want to insist on there being an ancient Greek state that was "closest" to proto-communism (which is a nonsensical statement since they were all slave societies) it would probably be Athens by virtue of higher social mobility. Moreover if you actually adhere to historical materialism, a mercantile society is closer to socialism in terms of developing the social basis for it.

>State-enforced austerity and discouragement of private wealth and luxury.
>State-controlled education and lifestyle, subordinating individual choice to collective needs.
>Strong social pressure toward conformity and equality in daily life among citizens.
Not communism. Read Marx, read Lenin, stop believing American propaganda about the USSR, and stop being a fascoid retard.

>>2653075
Athenian pederasty was an elite practice, it wasn't practiced by the common mass of Athenians tmk. Meanwhile, Spartan men almost certainly were homosexuals seeing as they were confined to male only agoges and ate in a common and didn't marry off into a household until their late 20s or sth.

>>2653913
>Spartan men almost certainly were homosexuals seeing as they were confined to male only agoges and ate in a common and didn't marry off into a household until their late 20s or sth
Wasn't that only the elite too? Like, citizens and not slaves, which were the majority



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This "pink fascism" is coming to a close. The era of homosexual fascism is over. Gay fascism is finally collapsing. This wave of pink fascism is breaking. The project of homosexual fascism is failing.

It's already been free for the last 60 years

>>2653597
>"what the fuck"
>"oh my god"

>>2653597
I don't get why this video is in any way relevant to anything in geopolitics. Someone put an ideological flag in front a national flag among national flag like an asshole, someone else removed it. Woah, what an earth shattering event. Did this even happen in Cuba? It sounds like it's somewhere in the US or Canada. The whole premise is fucking stupid anyway, because Cuba has legalized same-sex marriage, and makes a very big push to normalize it via public education.

Beyond that, I don't get why people are so goddamn obsessed with LGBT stuff either way. I personally care about improving my quality of life; having good working conditions, a sense of safety, a nice place to live, the resources to start a family, affordable luxuries, etc. I can't even begin to relate to anyone who puts any amount of energy into worrying about the legality of crossdressing and anal sex.

>>2653664
>Beyond that, I don't get why people are so goddamn obsessed with LGBT stuff either way. I personally care about improving my quality of life;
>having good working conditions,
<queer people can suffer discrimination on the workplace
>a sense of safety,
>queer people are often targets of hate crime
>a nice place to live,
<queer individuals are more likely to be denied mortgage
>the resources to start a family,
<same sex marriage is banned in lots of places
this is bait, right?

>>2653721
I myself (the guy you are replying to) am gay, and I do care about LGBT issues, but I care about society-wide enjoyment of prosperity more.

My main metric for success is the quality of childhood. If every family has the resources to raise kids period, then things are okay. If their kids are safe, if they can go out into the neighborhood without much supervision, then things are good. If every family is capable of getting their kids toys, video games, books, etc, then things are great.

LGBT rights are something worth fighting for, but moreso in the context of larger social liberties, and are a lesser priority than baseline material quality of life.



 

How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?

https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKo

This stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s I would watch stuff that had actual substance to it (think: Disney renaissance, Don Bluth films, TV shows like Arthur). Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids. When I babysit my neighbours’ kids who are eight and six (both boys) I’m horrified by how stupid they are. They can’t read at all. They can’t play musical instruments. They don’t do arts and crafts. They have the vocabularies of preschool-aged kids. They can’t do math and the eight-year old asks me to do his math homework for him. Both of them are either glued to their iPads or glued to watching YouTube on TV. It’s sad as hell. What do?
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>>2606026
>dark enlightenment dork ass losers want to make everyone stupid to justify becoming kings and nobles that cull the excess stupid people
It couldn’t be more obvious

>>2631182
>You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?
Some online activities are measurably healthier than others. I'd rather my kid be surfing the web and building a personal website than rotting on twitter, live streams and short form videos.
>>2631774
Depends what 'games' you're playing on Roblox, but yeah Minecraft, Vintage Story and Hytale are healthier, and reading is essential.

Sports are overrated though, as someone that grew up on sports. Puts you in the company of anti-social chuds that are usually on hard drugs, and overexposes you to the sun.

>>2652133
Roblox is a haven for child predators.

>>2602627
>>2603824
Gekyume has been exploited since birth. Modern-day Macaulay Culkin.



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I keep hearing the word being thrown around a lot but I don't really grasp at what it is really. I also don't really understand how it fits with marxism.

From my understanding, it essentially amounts to :
>matter determines everything
>material structures create opposing forces/conflict
>the resolution of the conflict makes history progress

So, I understand that the conflicts created by capitalism generate socialism. But is that actually necessary ? And does the dialectic boil down to a logical tool for analysis ? I don't know I've read the capital and the manifesto and the terms don't really appear (albeit the broad structure is there ig), yet everyone always talks about it.
And lastly, book rec ? I'm not trying to find something super lengthy, just enough to understand the concept in a clear way (what it serves, how it works precisely etc)(Rule 15)
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>>2653398
Retarded take. Dialectical materialism is inherent to marxism. Marx uses it in Capital and even wanted to write a book about it but died before.

>>2653649
Marx uses a dialectical series of arguments in capital, but he never appealed to anything called dialectical materialism, according to Cockshott.
>wanted to write a book about it but died before.
more info? I'm interested. I don't necessarily agree with cockshott, I just added what he said to the conversation because I find it interesting.

>>2653652
Sorry I had read that on leftypol but it turns out it was Engels and not Marx.

>Marx uses a dialectical series of arguments in capital

Didn't he co-author multiple chapters of the Anti-Dühring, where Engels specifically described dialectical materialism ?

>>2653700
the preface toit says it was written by engels with the exception of chapter 10, but nevertheless approved of by marx

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/preface.htm

Engels doesn't really say "dialectical materialism" but heavily implies it:

>Marx and I were pretty well the only people to rescue conscious dialectics from German idealist philosophy and apply it in the materialist conception of nature and history. But a knowledge of mathematics and natural science is essential to a conception of nature which is dialectical and at the same time materialist.



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I've been thinking of creating a thread to help develop ways of communicating general theory to just normal people irl.

A lot of people on the internet are usually doomers that think "the modern prole is brainwashed he'll never achieve class. Consciouaness!", but that is not true. I've meet self-proclaimed conservatives agree with many fundamentals of socialism while not even knowing what the word means.

I think all you have to do is be reasonably respected, use understandable terms, and most importantly, use solid IRL examples they see everyday in their life for reference, because its literally undeniable at that point if they see the exploitation in their own lives.

For example to explain the unnecessary nature of capitalism/consumerism use this:
"Isn't it crazy how there's factories still producing X in the modern day? Imagine how much better the world would be if those factories went towards literally anything useful for society like housing, food, etc".
Or for something like surplus value use this:
"If you think about it, corporate profit is literally just theft. If i produce a X for my company i get payed 20 dollars, but my boss gets a profit of 100 dollars, that means he's taking 80% of my hard earned cash without contributing at all to it, thats literally his only job".
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If anyone actually believes what you said they‘re just an idiot and agreeing with any of that doesn‘t come close to agreeing with Marxism as well.

>>2652627
its a better method of Larping about this shit than the way people usually do, most dudes on this site play pretend central committee while begging the mods to make this place a [INSERT LEFTIST TENDENCY HERE] circlejerk

>>2652504
>help develop ways of communicating general theory to just normal people irl.
this fool thinks class consciousness is when you know theory and the more theory you know the consciousnesser you are. what if I told you there are people out there who haven't read a word of theory and have more class consciousness in theri little finger than you'll ever have?

Threadly reminder that 'class consciousness' isn't an ideology, feeling or some other metaphysical nonsense.

In Marxist theory, class consciousness IS the party. And it is counter opposed to union consciousness, which is the economic struggle without a party to turn it political, thus rendered impotent.

>>2653047
What OP and others discussing is the latter if it isn't clear enough.



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