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Ah, look, look! [sniffs violently] This whole question of the hammer and the sickle—my God!—it is already a kind of ideological joke, eh? Because when we look at symbols, we think they are innocent little pictograms. But symbols—they are like those weird Slovenian pastries: they always hide something inside, something messy, something unexpected. [sniff]

And so let me propose—of course, in a totally irresponsible, speculative way—that the hammer and sickle is not merely a workers’ emblem, no! It is like a dialectical offspring, a strange symbolic synthesis, between the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent-and-star.

You see, in early Christianity—especially before it became this gigantic bureaucratic megachurch—there is this radical concern for the poor, the oppressed. You have this idea that the first shall be last, that the beggar is closer to truth than the emperor. And what is this if not the proto-Marxist suspicion that the ruling class is full of, eh, ideological nonsense? [sniffs]

And then, Islam—look, please, I say this with all respect and purely in symbolic terms—brings this martial decisiveness, this warrior energy. Not in the Hollywood sense of violence and terrorism, but in the sense of the angel with the flaming sword, the insistence that faith is inseparable from action. It is a kind of ethical militancy: do something, engage, submit not to oppression but to the absolute.

So what happens when you combine these? [sniff] You get the hammer and sickle: the Christian concern for the poor—the weak, the exploited—joined with the Islamic ethos of active struggle, of refusing to be passive. It is as if the cross and the crescent enter a Hegelian marriage: thesis, antithesis, and then—boom!—the proletarian symbol emerges as the bastard child.

And the beauty—eh, the obscenity!—is that Marxism tries to become a universal emancipatory project without the supernatural elements. It keeps the moral passion of early Christianity, the activist thrust of Islam, but throws out God like old cabbage from a Slovenian kitchen. [sniffs, gestures wildly]

So the hammer and sickle becomes this strange thing: a materialist Pentecost, a secular jihad, a revolution without heaven, formed from the leftovers of two great religious traditions, but now made edible for the modern worker.

And this, of course, is precisely why nobody wants to admit it! Because it reveals that even our most “atheist” symbols are hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Classic leftypol sniffposting

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Imageboards have of course been filled with nazis for a fuck ton of time from even the start, but most people agree it mainly started when moot added /news/ then all the chudcels flooded the rest of the site, then created /pol/ and the rest is history.

With that being said, how do we realistically combat the mass grooming of people into nazism through imageboards? The sharty is becoming the new 8chan but with way more cultural influence on the wider internet and the rest of the population is filled with young children, we have already seen solomon (a mass shooter that was a black man yet he was also a white supremacist with sharty connections) commit a mass shooting. With that being said clearly a lot of these young men are isolated and angry, doxxing random literal WHOS because they are trans, or even doing raids that help the federal government because the site is influenced by glowies. They even raided our very booru 2 days ago, and ILLEGAL CONTENT was posted (this was done by foodist nazis not soyteens but still scary that it’s that prevalent with their raids).

And with the thought on raids we can see some of these young people are being groomed into actual pedophile nazi communities but the sharty staff and wiki are so up their asses that they can’t see they have ideological similarities with the nazi foodists and that’s why they surround them.

They have crushed /leftysoy/ and banned many leftists on their wiki including me, I think this is gonna evolve into something much worst if we don’t do anything.
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>>>>>2575374 (You)
>>>I’m a satanic front blud albeit

>>2575226
u guys are harmless thats why the right is better at terrorism lol

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>rightist infighting
>this thread for some reason

>>2575382

i thought it was because we didn't had as many CIAuyghurs grooming us since a young age.



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Interested to see if we have any contrarians here who can explain why the RSF is good and anti-imperialist actually. They're secular and portrayed as the bad guys in western media, so they're probably the good guys?
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Courtesy of newsanon's thread

Emirati, Israeli and far-right influencers 'invented Christian killings in Sudan': Report

Beam Reports, a Sudanese investigative platform that combats disinformation, said in its latest report on Wednesday that after the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) paramilitary group seized control of el-Fasher in Darfur nearly a month ago, misleading content about the nature of events began to surface online in a "synchronised manner".

The objectives of the coordinated campaign, Beam Reports stated, included shifting blame of atrocities away from the RSF, recasting Sudan's war as a religious conflict to "evoke foreign sympathy", and flooding the online space with fabricated content to confuse media coverage.

Beam identified Amjad Taha, an Emirati analyst, as the architect of the campaign. He posted several claims about alleged Islamists in Sudan, which were then amplified by other accounts.

One claim alleged that Britain was about to grant citizenship to a "Sudanese jihadist" whilst "Christians are being slaughtered in Sudan and Nigeria by Islamist extremists".

Taha added that Sudan's army had "killed 2 million Christians, displaced 8 million, and raped 15,000 women, while leftists stay busy attacking the UAE… a nation where church bells ring freely".

Taha also claimed that a Sudanese army officer had "eaten a man's heart after killing him and his children". Again, no evidence was provided, but such claims were amplified by Emirati, Israeli and far-right accounts.
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The Sheikh Who Conquered Soccer and Coddles Warlords

The Emirati vice president is best known as the owner of Manchester City, a top English soccer team. Behind the scenes, he has been described as the “handler” guiding his country’s secret foreign wars.

https://archive.is/2dwMV

>Charities controlled by Sheikh Mansour set up a hospital, saying they were treating civilians. But that humanitarian effort was also a cover for the secret Emirati effort to smuggle drones and other powerful weapons to General Hamdan’s group, the Rapid Support Forces, or R.S.F., according to American and U.N. officials.


>Charities controlled by Sheikh Mansour set up a hospital, saying they were treating civilians. But that humanitarian effort was also a cover for the secret Emirati effort to smuggle drones and other powerful weapons to General Hamdan’s group, the Rapid Support Forces, or R.S.F., according to American and U.N. officials.


>In interviews with more than a dozen American, African and Arab officials, he is described as being at the sharp end of his country’s aggressive push to expand its influence across Africa and the Middle East.


>In places like Libya and Sudan, they say, Sheikh Mansour has coddled warlords and autocrats as part of a sweeping Emirati drive to acquire ports and strategic minerals, counter Islamist movements and establish the Gulf nation as a heavyweight regional power.


>President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, was allied with Iran, a fierce competitor with many Arab states for influence in the region. Sheikh Mansour was tasked with wooing him to the Emirati side, Sudanese and American officials said. A series of back-channel meetings culminated in 2017 with a high-profile visit by Mr. al-Bashir to Abu Dhabi.

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UK allowed arms exports to UAE after being told weapons given to RSF
Britain licenced £172m in military equipment exported to the UAE between April and June this year

The British government approved weapons exports to the United Arab Emirates even after being told that the UAE had diverted UK military equipment to paramilitaries accused of committing genocide in Sudan, it has emerged.

It was reported last month that British-manufactured small-arms target systems and engines for armoured personnel carriers were found in Rapid Support Forces (RSF) hands in combat zones in Sudan.

MEE has previously revealed that the UAE provides the RSF militia with extensive logistical and military support.

The UN Security Council, of which Britain is a member, received information in March alleging that the UAE may have supplied British-made arms to the RSF, according to the Guardian.

But it has now emerged that Britain then continued to approve exports to the UAE for military equipment.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-allowed-arms-exports-uae-after-being-told-weapons-given-rsf

>>2560491
>sky
Ghoulish

The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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>>2566386
>another famous species is the chankiri tree
<Samanea saman is a semi-deciduous species of flowering tree in the pea family, Fabaceae, now in the Mimosoid clade and is native to Central and South America. It is often placed in the genus Samanea, which by yet other authors is subsumed in Albizia entirely.
<Its range extends from Mexico south to Peru and Brazil, but it has been widely introduced to South and Southeast Asia, as well as the Pacific Islands, including Hawaii. It is a well-known tree, rivaled perhaps only by lebbeck and pink siris among its genus. It is well represented in many languages and has numerous local names in its native range; common English names include saman, rain tree and monkeypod.
<In Cambodia it is colloquially known as the Chankiri Tree (can be written ចន្ទគិរី or ចន្ទ៍គីរី).

What if it was just a massive LARP group

>>2575309
well technically MONATIO were indeed larping as KR revolutionaries, see here >>2547935
picrel is some more trve KR [child] soldiers for comparison

>>2574168
>tried to purposely mislead the reader in order to feed into "le evil gomunists" narrative
Eh, well, that's one excerpt. Vickery at least was pretty sympathetic towards the Vietnamese communists (from what I've read) and was fairly Marxist in his approach. I think he's one of the more left-wing historians who wrote about the KR.

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everyone pays attention to MONATIO, nobody pays attention to the Sip Song Chau Tai that existed for well over a decade



 

Hello /leftypol/

Here is my most viewed websites for the past 100+ days. What sites are you visiting? Tell me what I need more of.

Everything is getting pulled more and more into social media platforms lately, and they are so absolutely shit I need something else.

>Letterboxd.
>Reddit
>Actually putting most of these websites on an easily trackable browser
>Datamining thread

These are pretty much all I use nowadays.



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Feels like most people seriously think communism boils down to educating people, lol. Even those who associate communism only with their idea of the party, who even came up with that? They are mixing up the role of the party with any random group that slaps "communist party" on their name. The party is basically the brain of the class, the class' political and economic expression of its program. It is not some random ideological point, it is an unavoidable necessity. No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party. Like there can be antagonism between the class' economic and political necessities but most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.

>>2574311
>No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party.
Tell me why. Explain it like you would to a child.

>>2574311
>most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.
it might emerge that way, but parties can become revisionist and/or self destructive, like the CPSU did. Did the class "need" the CPSU to dissolve the USSR?

Communism is a mode of production

The rest of your post is vauge in purpose and irrelevant to the starting topic.

As an angsty teenager I read a lot existensialist philosophy and got this urge do actually change things but it always amounted to poetry or philosophy, two practices that rarely have consequences or historical meaning. Idealist voluntarism describes it pretty good. Marxism on the other hand gave me the understanding that to actually impose my will is impossible and the best I can hope for was to understand the mores of the times and not have my will deviate from the mores, too much. And the way to actually impose any kind of will is to impose the inevitable "will" of the class, which is to say to pursue the class interest of the proletariat.

A kind of schizophrenia ocurrs when you try to cross voluntarist approaches to social revolution. The only way to actually pursue the solutions to the problems Marxism presents itself is to practice real life, dirty-Jewish politics. You have to push proletarian association wherever you are. For me this amounts forcing people to organize into whichever kind of structures while presenting my case, the communist case, as everyone's case. There's no granduer to it essentially and most of my escapades lead to dead ends. Most people think I'm a complete weirdo probably, because communism, organization, class and the proletarian movement is the only thing I talk about in general (when I'm not talking about work).



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Why wasn’t there any type of De-Maoization?
When Nikita Khrushchev took office after Stalin he went on a campaign of de-Stalinization where statues of Stalin were torn down and streets and cities named after him were renamed. Why didn’t Deng Xiaoping do the same with Mao Zedong? I’m not saying that Deng should have or shouldn’t have but I’m just wondering why. Because Mao is still celebrating in China and seen as a great figure who only made a few mistakes.
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>>2531318

Do you have any non-CIA bitch source to site for that ?

>>2531366
Pakistan won

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>>2530049
There was a de-Hua Guofeng-ization. Mao's successor had his own cult of personality for 2 years and it got completely dismantled to the point that his death in 2008 was barely noticed.

>>2531366
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia are literal CIA propaganda outlets. Consider shooting yourself.

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Do you support regime change in Venezuela? Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2574582
this is why i keep posting the marx quote about crude communism while also acknowledging the existence of labor aristocracy. that is the correct position: >>2574396

>>2574583
>uh no lol. You're not getting that correct. It wasn't even really a flame war. It was a lot of things. Maybe don't try to bring it up again
Actually I did. It was half flame war, and half just unloading brain farts while pretending to be smart.

>>2574576
No we can’t rest on our laurels, if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is, the tea party psychos of yesteryear are moderates compared to tpublicans and they’re getting punched from the right by gryopers.

>>2574573
>things never said
>the reply.
>>2574575
>>2574569
they are juicy even if you are a new hire, much better than the average market.

>>2574593
>if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is
just one problem, m8, the reactionaries can afford to do that because they are hegemonic and showered with money by the Thiels and Kochs of the world, while the DSAcels are cucked into tailing the DNC



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https://www.jpost.com/aliyah/article-874914

Imagine your religion entitles you to real estate in Palestine

>Gov't approves plan to bring India's remaining 'lost tribe' Bnei Menashe back to Israel

>The new immigrants will undergo Orthodox conversion through the Chief Rabbinate and will mainly settle in Nof HaGalil and other northern communities.



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I have recently noticed a tendency on here, X, reddit, and other places to call any anti-Amerikkkan a "Third-Worldist". According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west (huh sounds familiar now that I think about it). And apparently it is a particular tendency of Maoism that is leading the charge of this crusade. Has anyone actually seen these so-called "Third-Worldists" advocate for killing all white people and their children? If so they should certainly be taken care of! We can't have a group of evil child killing zealots who are over-attached to a particular identity running around our proud leftist image board defending these things for literally no reason! Infact I really think we should be banning anyone who opposes the USA or the west in general because it's possible that anyone criticizing Amerikkka could be a ScArY "Third-Worldist".

But if indeed they don't exist, can someone kindly explain to me why Amerikkkan's seem to be so obssessed with calling everyone who point's out their benefitting from multiple historical and ongoing genocides one? Or really why westerner's in general are so insecure when you point out how their national self-conceptions in general are soaked in blood? Oh look at me going and strawmanning again, welp atleast someone on this board has some self-awareness.
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>>2574501
I was gonna say, saying shit like
> According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west

Is why people *actually* can't stand third worldists. Third Worldists constantly strawman criticisms of their position in bad-faith, where anyone who disagrees with them is assumed to be on the same page as a racist or pro-imperialist and therefore must be killed by JDPON, and then pull a motte-and-bailey fallacy where they claim they're not actually saying that.

And here's the thing - christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.

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>>2574505
> christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.
I mean both groups unironically believe in picrel and all the racial essentialism that comes with it, the only difference is who they think the intrinsically noble civilization is

>>2557921
OP, the reason you people get criticized isn't for opposing imperialist governments, it's for picking fights with comrades in the core constantly while strawmanning their criticisms of your position.

No, leftists in the core who think you're wrong aren't "Being mad that you want to take their treats away," they think your analyses regarding the labor aristocracy and the reasons revolution hasn't happened yet are wrong, because they fly in the face of their own experiences.

>>2574512
This needs to be stickied. The perfect rebuttal

>>2574513
third-worldists treat their theory the way bourgeois economists treat orthodox economics - if the facts don't fit their theory, then it's assumed that reality is in error, not the theory!



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