/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

This world nations needing to catch up to the big money bags inertia of first world nations that filled the pockets with colonialism have no choice but to opt for state capitalism. China proved this. Get middle income trapped bitch.

Australian and Oceania politics general thread. 'EDIT'"Previous thread: >>2371516"

Link dump:
https://www.greenleft.org.au [good events page]
https://www.auscp.org.au/militant-monthly
https://solidarity.net.au
https://redflag.org.au
https://marxistleftreview.org/?topic=australia
https://www.michaelwest.com.au
https://partisanmagazine.org/about/
https://overland.org.au
https://arena.org.au
https://www.themonthly.com.au
https://www.crikey.com.au
https://www.redblacknotes.com
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The Iran war will start in started 33 minutes ago.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116147082884192486

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i cannot take this anymore fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor i need to burn it all down i cannot be a wageslave any longer please emancipate labor now now now now

A case for social-liberalism, progressivism and social-democracy.

I am not completely against socialism (mainly democratic socialism) and communism/marxism, but I think modern society evolved in a way we should prioritize freedom+democracy over any authoritarian regime.

We should organize society within this framework and try to reform the system from within.

The idea of "revolution" is a broad idea. Reform and progress can be considered "revolutions" and I make the case they actually are grat revolutions, because they are part of a greater consesus instead of an authoritarian takeover. They tend to be more stable and irreversible because of the strong social consensus over time.

We should invest in education to teach people socialist ideas so they grow up being strong reformists and end up changing society over time and fight against right-wing radicalism. That's what I think.

American culture, and I'm not talking about cultural objects like Burgers, Banjos, Straw hats, or Seersucker suits or cultural Music like Country, Rap or Jazz. Im talking about behavioral culture like Hyper consumerism, Hyper materialism, American exceptionalism, or the insane Police and Military culture that's normalized. Like the last two could be fixed if the left plays its cards right but the consumerism and Materialism thing I think could be permanently bricked into the American brain. I live in America and I will always remember this time when ii was a kid and my family was on our way back from a road trip and we stopped at a McDonalds that was around an hour away from our and my little brother was upset that my Dad forgot to order a Root-Beer so he said "Don't worry we will pass like 15 other McDonald on the way home." And he said that like it was normal. I don't even think that in countries like Europe you can just walk into a Walmart and get like 47 different flavors of Oreos, Like I don't think that its inherently bad but there is no way that we get the stuff to make those Oreos without exploiting the labor of Sugar farmers in or from Guatemala or something, if it was self reliant then its fine but America doesn't manufacture anything we use anymore, Our entire economy is just 5 AI companies shuffling money between themselves. I will always remember that time that Trump was doing in interview about the Tariffs and he said "Well maybe Girls in America can have two dolls instead of thirty dolls" and although I hate Trump and his hostility to China he Isn't wrong about how kids don't need to have 30 of the same dolls to survive, and of course that is why the liberal media attacked him for saying that more then the stuff that deserves condemnation.

AI-generated. I wrote the lyrics, sang the melody, played the banjo, even got a friend on fiddle.

https://suno.com/song/0ff68a67-0f11-467a-b907-868960274195

Hey /leftypol/, the more I'm reading about these topics the more I get diverging interpretations that seem unreconcilable. So, what's the global consensus on these notions ?

>historical materialism
The structure of society, which reflects the mode of production (capitalism, socialism, feudalism etc), creates antagonist groups with structural interdependance aswell as structural contradictory modes of existence (i.e. the proletariat will aim to maximize their salaries, but the bourgeoisie will attempt to extract the most surplus value from the proletariat).
Over time, this creates change and conflict within societies, giving way to paradigmic societal change (i.e. feudalism -> capitalism -> …)
However, another interpretation seems to see it through the lens of the development in productive forces. In this case, the contradiction ceases to be between classes, but rather between the development of productive forces with the relations of production (i.e. feudalism preventing capitalism from developing because of taxes or irrational norms).
The first interpretation makes me tend to believe that there is no gradual change from one society towards another, and simply a dialectical movement towards the abolition of classes, whilst the second one seems to be much more technology-centric and linear.

>dialectical materialism
This one seems to be the most controversial one. From what I can gather, it seems that it originated with Engels and that it posits that the material world in eternal motion driven by contradictory forces and structured around 3 natural laws. However, doesn't this imply some form of naturalism ? Nonetheless, another interpretation that I have picked up accounts for it being the idea that man is in a dialectical interaction with his environment, by which he is able to consciously work on it whilst also being determined by the latter. This interpretation can be imo hardly derived easily from the first one.

>alienation
Every individual is intrinsically a social and creative potential, by which he can be fulfilled or alienated. Alienation here refers to the mechanisms inherent to capitalism which "alienates" the proletariat from that potential by reducing them to cogs.
In this view, the dialectic seems to change again and shifts towards individual interactions between the position someone holdsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

the most recent Epstein file drop potentially implicating the creation of /pol/ with moot meeting with Epstein feels like it needs to have its own thread. it's pretty much an accepted fact at this point that Epstein played a key role in what seems to be a massive secret human trafficking ring that exists as a form of Mutually Assured Destruction to for the elites to maintain power, but what is currently a lesser-known and recent revelation is that circumstantial evidence indicating that the entire formation of the far-right was an astroturfing psyop by pedophile billionaires and the intelligence community.

in particular, this thread >>>/lgbt/3094 links even more damning evidence that the astroturfing of far-right politics has been intentionally perpetrated as a psyop to ensure that the Molochian demons in power have access to as many children to rape as possible. pedocon theory is not a meme at this point or even merely an own on the hypocrisy of the far-right; it arguably is a significant factor behind the existence of the far-right today.

https://dump.li/a/29c72d#x

https://archive.org/details/dark-web-playground-child-abuse-forum-leak-censored-posted-endchan-03.18.2025

while it's bordering on LARP to act like anything serious happens on this site, broadly speaking "the left" and especially leftists familiar with imageboard culture & history should be investigating and agitating more specifically on this matter. the purpose of this thread is to consolidate information on this and to crowdsource more investigative work in the Epstein files specifically on the issue of astroturfing the creation of the alt-right. if you are involved in any real life organizing of any kind you should be spreading this information far and wide for agitprop purposes.

the masses needs to know that there is no civil debate to be had with the right, nor is there even any particularly sophisticated leap in theory and critique one needs to make; the far-right is simply ontologically evil and we should be agitating on them all being controlled by human traffickers as hard as possible.