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US to launch new phase of Venezuela operations, sources say
Two of the U.S. officials said covert operations would likely be the first part of the new action against Maduro. All four officials quoted in this article spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of impending action by the United States.
The Pentagon referred questions to the White House. The CIA declined to comment.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-launch-new-phase-venezuela-operations-sources-say-2025-11-22/

US warns civilian flights as military activity around Venezuela increases
American Airlines said on Friday that it stopped overflying Venezuela in October. Delta Air Lines and United Airlines did not immediately respond to requests for comment. The airspace warning comes as Washington deployed its most advanced aircraft carrier strike group, navy warships with thousands of troops, as well as F-35 stealth aircraft to the region amid what it claims is a military operation against Latin American drug trafficking cartels.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/22/us-warns-civilian-flights-as-military-activity-around-venezuela-increases
https://archive.ph/VwEXS

Jair Bolsonaro arrested after tampering with ankle tag ‘out of curiosity’
In a video released by the supreme court, Bolsonaro – who was recently sentenced to 27 years in prison for masterminding a military coup – can be heard admitting to a security official that he had used a soldering iron to tamper with the black tag. The video showed the device badly damaged and burned on both sides, but still on his ankle.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/22/far-right-former-president-jair-bolsonaro-arrested-in-brazil

Netanyahu says Rubio assured him Saudi Arabia will not receive F-35s on par with Israel
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Can the state and capital just collapse already, modern life is so fucking meaningless, we need a revolution for meaning.

“We’re Broken”: As Federal Prisons Run Low on Food and Toilet Paper, Corrections Officers Are Leaving in Droves for ICE
After years of struggling to find enough workers for some of the nation’s toughest lockups, the Federal Bureau of Prisons is facing a new challenge: Corrections officers are jumping ship for more lucrative jobs at Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
https://www.propublica.org/article/ice-bop-federal-prisons-corrections-officers

Mass layoffs escalate in US healthcare industry
This week, Providence announced it is cutting approximately 450 staff in the Washington and Oregon area. These cuts, which are set to take place in early 2026, will impact more than 100 departments, including front line clinical healthcare workers. Providence has already laid off 200 this year, and also announced a restructuring plan in June that impacted 600 full-time jobs.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/22/lhcy-n22.html

Inside Greenpeace USA's fight for its life
The group is facing possible bankruptcy if a judgment holds up finding that Greenpeace owes hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to the oil pipeline company Energy Transfer. A North Dakota jury found that the environmental group had committed trespassing, conspiracy and defamation while opposing the company’s Dakota Access pipeline in 2016 and 2017.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/22/inside-a-green-group-fighting-for-its-life-00655903
https://archive.ph/5ubMr

Millions of Floridians’ utility bills will soon go up.
The Florida Public Service Commission approved the rate increase Thursday for Florida Power & Light, the state’s largest power company, over the strong objections of advocates for the elderly, conservation groups, and the state-appointed advocate for Florida ratepayers, who called the proposal “disproportionately favorable” to corporate interests.
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Welcome to the Jungle: An Interview with a Fighter of the Anti-Fascist International Front in Myanmar
Since the coup, the opposition has made impressive territorial gains and victories, such as the five-month-long Battle of Falam in the Chin State. Currently, the military controls about 21 percent of the country, while anti-regime forces and EAOs control around 42 percent, with the rest currently being contested. The most recent mass casualty event of the war happened on October 6, 2025 when regime forces used a paraglider to bomb a Buddhist festival that was also an anti-government protest; at least two dozen people died including two members of the resistance group Sagaing Region Strike Forces. The conflict is complicated due to several reasons: the variety of EAOs and anti-junta groups operating in the country and their differing goals, the influence of China and other countries, and a 7.7 earthquake in March, among other factors. One such anti-junta force is the Anti-Fascist International Front (AIF), a relatively new armed group that came together before the Battle of Falam. Below, we have an interview with Azad, a fighter of the AIF. Militant Wire co-founder War Noir facilitated and conducted the interview.
https://www.militantwire.com/p/welcome-to-the-jungle-an-interview

The Communist Party of Venezuela on U.S imperialist aggression and the national crisis
Washington attempts to justify this military presence by claiming to be fighting drug trafficking. However, this narrative is nothing but a smokescreen designed to conceal its true objective: to intervene in the Venezuelan political crisis in order to secure strategic and economic advantages for U.S. capital. It is in this context that one must interpret the recent statements by the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, who arrogantly declared: “the Western Hemisphere is America’s neighborhood and we will protect it.” History shows that U.S. imperialism adapts its excuses to the moment. During the existence of the Socialist Bloc, it invoked the “communist threat” to justify coups d’état, invasions and covert operations. After September 11, the pretext shifted to the “war on terrorism.” Today, it instrumentalizes the so-called “fight against drug trafficking” to carry out extrajudicial executions in the Caribbean aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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I am far right, but I think discourse with the far left is (atleast anonymously) a good idea. Now, our Goals are in the end of the day opposite to one another, due to Metaphysical Priors, but I think we can come to some common understanding or certain issues. Specifically, the topic of Immigration. Why does the left support the Bourzoua Practise of Letting in Millions upon Millions of low wage workers/ welfare parasites or brain drain for the intrest of Capitalist Elites? Capitalists are clearly the one supporting and pushing this, in the general ideological basis of neoliberalism. Even so called "fascists" as called by the left like Trump and Musk are in favour of so called "Elite Human Capital" immigration, taking jobs from the White Working Class. Frankly there is no rational reason for the left to support this, except from an irrational antiwhite hatred. If the left wants any political future, they should support remigration.(/pol/ tourism thread)
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>>2570716
>>2570718
>a few shitposters are the majority of the userbase
these arent even common shitposts, so Im guessing they were trying to make you mad, which succeeded

>>2570754
>so Im guessing they were trying to make you mad, which succeeded
No I agree we should nuke India, I'm part of the 2/3rd, sorry its not shitposting we just can't do it yet.

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stop bumping this CIAuyghur thread uyghas

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>>2570346
>Why does the left support the Bourzoua Practise of Letting in Millions upon Millions of low wage workers/ welfare parasites or brain drain for the intrest of Capitalist Elites?
every time you come here and ask this question, my answer is the same: immigrants aren't parasites. Capital seeks workers the cheapest labor market. Capital does this by outsourcing or using immigrants. Notice I say capital, because capital is a system. Even if individual bourgeoisie do not individually conspire to bring about this outcome, it emerges as a property of the global economy. The oppressed nations under imperialism have the cheapest labor markets. People flee imperialism seeking higher wages. The people who flee imperialism seeking higher wages end up getting jobs in the imperialist countries which pay them higher wages than they would make at home. They send part of these wages home as remittances to their family. Many who are against them might do the same thing in their shoes. Brain drain functions the same way, but with professionals and managers instead of workers. This is the actual underlying incentive structure of capital. This will continue to happen until rates of wages roughly equalize across the globe, which will not happen under capitalism. In the mean time reactionaries carry out campaigns to scapegoat immigrants for fleeing cheap labor markets. They call the migrants parasites even though capital creates these outcomes. They fuel these campaigns with racism and militarism. They actually start new imperialist wars which destroy infrastructure and means of production in target countries, reversing the level of development in these countries and lowering their wage rates further. Then they turn to the camera and say "wow, look at these third world brownoid shitholes!" with zero self awareness. Coups, sanctions, embargoes, invasions, bombing campaigns, and many other strategies are used to bring about this state of affairs. Reactionaries also lobby for a walled world. They want commodities to be more free to move than people. They want strong immigration controls. They want to pull a large portion of the adult male population away from productive activity and make them pigs, troops, and border guards who keep conditions shitty for both foreign and domestic workers, but especially the foreign workers, who get depPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>I am far right, I think we can come to some common understanding
okay
>Specifically, the topic of Immigration
oh so you want to split the workers instead of being a disciplined fighter



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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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>>2563966
>which makes our Mexican nazis extra funny
I call them naztecs

I get that not turning them into martyrs is probably the smartest thing to do, but man, I really wish Sheinbaum went full Red Terror on these fashoids.
#HangChriscucksFromLampostsAgain

>>2563898
Yamato Damashit stories are garbage idealism.

>>2570436
>genz
>mostly elderly
Huh



 

Any comrades from Utah here?

How do we fix this beyond fucked up state?

The LDS church runs everything here. Nearly every single little detail of the state’s culture is dictated by Mormonism. Mormon temples are the largest buildings in every city and town. Mormon bookstores are more numerous than most other stores, and old school soda shops are more numerous than cafes (Mormons prohibit coffee and tea but allow caffeinated soda for some reason). Multiple buildings, streets, and businesses are named after Mormon things (e.g. “Cumorrah Avenue”). Multi-level marketing companies are everywhere and sponsor things like stadiums (MLM companies are littered with Mormon moms).

The LDS church is basically run like a massive corporation. They are very good at missionizing and making new converts, plus Mormons tend to get married young and have bucketloads of kids. The average Mormon family has between 4-7 children. The point is, the LDS church is highly reactionary and rules over Utah with an iron fist, yet there is almost no internal resistance to it. “Utah” basically is the LDS church. And that’s not even mentioning the entire settler-colonial history of the church either, the mass slaughter of the indigenous that Mormons participated in to create the state of Utah and such.

With that said, how do we deal with this state’s politics if we are socialists living in it? There’s no way someone like AOC or Mamdani or any DSA candidate could ever win here. If there was ever a socialist candidate, they’d either have to ensure the Utah public that they’re a “good Mormon” (which would mean throwing away their principles and participating in a reactionary, settler-colonial theology) or seek to dismantle Utah culture outright by going against the grip of the LDS church, which would be political suicide.

I’m sorry, but I wish this fucking state didn’t exist. Trying to organize anything leftist here feels like a lost cause.
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>>2570299
Thoughts on cedar City and Ogden?

>>2570299
What do you think the solution is?

>>2570365
i've been to cedar and ogden but i don't know a lot; just that cedar is very much centered around its stageplay industry and ogden i've only really passed through going to Eden. Both of them seem a lot more normal than the rest of the state but that might just be from an outside perspective. Cedar seems a little bit like Moab in the sense that there are more laid back and accepting people than elsewhere.

There's also places in the middle of nowhere like nephi or mona that seem to have the same kind of evangelical, dying-town culture as the other midwest states.

>>2570432
Hell if i know lmao, it seems pretty far out of our control unless the church fucks up and disillusions people somehow

>>2570524
So, defeatism?



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2568103
>all these productive forces posted unspoilered
l-lewd
but actually there's still humans involved. as with all automation, it merely moves where the labour is actually being done. instead of assembling and welding the cars themselves, workers now program and maintain the robots that do those things. we might see maintenance be automated as well eventually

Wondering if TNS and other cybercommunist works have been translated to Nepali, Korean, Russian, or Hindi. I know there's translations in Spanish and Mandarin - and people working on a Vietnamese version - but some of the largest parties on earth are in Nepal and India, and would certainly make use of it, though i'm sure they're already broadly aware of the ideas presented.

Finally finished reading the reproduction schema paper by Alex Creiner which "proves" that in Capitalism, equilibrium of supply and demand is compatible with disproportions in production growing to the point that production completely collapses.

This ugly wall of text really needs some space between the paragraphs and highlighting more words. I made a list of typos to prove I read the thing to the end:
complextion, intenstion (this one gets repeated throughout), apploet, its subjects, volumne, its increasing level, finished what he started, waiting for capital inflows being which are stuck being hoarded, Marx observes observes, We are now faced with an overemphasized wage capital goods department and an underemphasized wage goods department, cylcle, crisis of disproportionality we are dealing with is not, wage goods are the goods whose use-values lies, use-values they are producing isn’t aren’t, entirely concerned, its own, are seen not to produce not producing, are seen blindly investing, would also would, spiraling, can inadvertaently (end of sentence missing here), they abruptly they explode, do a good job, Indeedn, We already noted (where?) that (the author wrote "where" here, remember I'm the one using italics for my comments), its subjects, its relation, we can clearly see two things clearly, its subjects, that that, he could likely havePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2570610
is this going to be published somewhere?
I've taken a gander at Creiner's work before. seems reasonable enough. he does go on for perhaps a bit too long around having discovered positive eigenvalues in capitalism

>>2570356
There are translations but no one that could influence a country's economy is reading it



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Hundreads of years of theory all seem like just useless distractions, if we want to end the capitalist mode of production we simply have to kill everyone who supports it regardless of class by growing an army that's big and strong enough to take them on. Just us versus them, if you're not with us you're against us. Isn't this literally just what has to be done?
Of course there might be people who say they are against capitalism yet not support the movement but they should be killed as well, and if they say they support the movement but don't follow the rules of the movement they should be killed too. Seems to me that cheka had it right all along. Hundreads of years wasted on dialectics and philosophy nonsense.
>BUT HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST NUKES?
Just start the rebellion by taking over the nuke sites first and take control. Get the nuclear briefcases and shit first. Prioritize taking over the nuclear sites of a country with nukes in one coordinated go by super special trained bodies of armed men.

Who's with me?
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>>2565994
ok sure, but do you know how hard it is to '[grow] an army that's big and strong enough to take them on'? you don't raise armies out of thin air, without the support of a state-like entity to facilitate logistics and production of necessary equipment.

with this in mind, you have basically just re-stated the most general goals of communist theory. the theory that 'seems like just useless distractions' to you are in fact mostly about the details of how to do exactly what you describe most effectively.

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>>2565994
wow youre a fucking genius man

True.
>BUT HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST NUKES?
Porkies will never use WMDs because it'll greatly hurt their ability to juice the profits out of this planet. They won't let the chuds launch the nukes either. Even if we don't take control of nukes in the first few days or weeks, they still won't fly.

>>2565994
I think the best way to beat capitalism is to just make more money than the capitalists and then buy capitalism itself



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>>2570428
these pathetic drunks are killing 1,000 nato-armed ukrainians every day and consistently advancing? wow…nato kinda sucks

>>2570088
Has he gotten a new job?

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Will Zelensky buckle or will trump TACO as he always does.

Gonna have to bake. I can do it.




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The crackdown on immigration in the west has the potential to be a good thing for revolutionary and anti-imperialist states, because it will prevent both brain drain and loss of labor forces. The downside is that these countries won't be able to expel the reactionary elements that would otherwise go to the west, especially the US.
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>>2564787
Being Aryan is quite cheap then. 20$ hair dye.

>>2564786
What exactly is this image meant to incite? STEM is overwhelmingly male. What if it was a bunch of whitoids and one brown female?

Yes it will. Brain drain is a real problem. Deport those opportunists back.

>>2566136
Gas the Jews only

I take it back its too mean



 

Leftypol could really learn something from Athenian democracy and the story of Aristides.
The fact Athenian democracy worked so well is what saved them numerous times especially from the advances of the Persian forces.
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>>2569934
Surprisingly good analysis he seems like a sincere man.

>>2555251
That makes you a liability to everyone around you, and they’re perfectly justified in treating you like a pariah

>>2569919
>waifu larper

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>>2569934
truth nuke, burgers don't know their own history

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>>2570222
Milk to cows…
These cows don't want my milk. 🐮 🥛👈
They already have tons of milk – they're cows! 🐄
& if these leftists were going to entertain rightwing ideology, they'd be nazi chuds or fascists over monarchy, which also has us outgunned and outclassed in the modern age
at best monarchy has is religiosity which is a corporatism of its own and satiates it well with Christ so they too don't feel compelled and if they do want a king here on earth the fascist-style corporatism and leader principle covers it which frankly has way more appeal to the burgeoning number of secular people and so as well the religious who admire their popularity and want to get in on that



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How do you reconcile that this revisionist is responsible for China being the only hope left for socialists? What does China‘s success change about Marxist thought?
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>>2568997
>no, socialism is a transitionary stage headed by a dotp
This is leninist revisionism. Marx never said this.

>>2569008
no, it's classical marxism.
>Between capitalist and communist society lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.
marx always framed socialism as a transitional stage, not a final economic system. it also retains elements of the old society. and because it is transitional and contains elements of capitalism, marx does not treat it as a fully realized mode of production.

>>2569036
It was bait but Marx rarely even mentions socialism and instead talks about lower stage communism.

>>2569146
right but thats a semantic difference. we can call it lower stage communism or use the convention of socialism and communism being different stages. the important thing is the class character of the state, and a dtop is not a dtob, its not social production for private profit, but social production for public need according to democratic decision through representative democracy.

i think the reason a lot of people get it twisted is because liberals appropriated a lot of communist rhetoric. like a rising tide really does lift all boats if you actually build necessary infrastructure, but thats not what liberals do thats just what they say.

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