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Why does everyone have a urge to commit crime and strike at the empire, but never do such?
Not like random murder or other such crimes, more like riotting, looting, stealing, treason, assassinations, etc. Its like everyone wants to react on their class anger but only few do so.
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>>2881290

The ubiquitous surveillance and enforcement apparatus makes revolutionary criminality impossible. Bakunin never accounted for AI and Flock cameras.

bumping this based thread

>>2881890
The state isnt omnipotent. There qill always be blindspots.


>>2882181
nice try fbi

but yes clearly revolution is more difficult than ever and will continue to get more difficult and is probably already impossible anyway



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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Childhood is beliving in planning, adulthood is embracing the market.

What I meant by market is a market socialist one, not capitalistic one.

>>2878324
get better bait

>>2878380
When you get older, kid, you will realize that planning is (and was) a failure, and the market (although imperfect) is far better for society.

Since Cockshott thinks that Althusser's ideas have become mystified in the anglosphere due to poor translations, are there any modern, better translations of him? I know Cock does not think highly of Althusser but given that he has felt the need to single him out, it makes me think that maybe there is something to it. He seems to have had an influence on Cockshott's conception of HistMat atleast.

Also whats the relation of Guattari and Deleuze to cybernetics? Is there anything worthwhile to be gained from reading them?

>>2882173
>I know Cock does not think highly of Althusser
How so? I thought he agreed with him on the whole epistemological break thing.



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>Gigabazed Edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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>>2879527
Post voice

>>2853101
You see so many of these guys on Rednote. I legitimately think the Chinese interest with western fascist aesthetics comes from hearts of iron mods and I'm not even joking.

>>2882114
Why do you pretend that han chauvinists have never existed in chinese history?

>>2882161
yeh wojak memes have a three thousand year history in china very organic

>>2882167
>He chose to play dumb



 

If you are queer in prison you are statistically much more likely to get abused and raped than if you are a literal child molester. I doubt leftists would fare much better in the hyper macho rightoid environment that prison is. Not to mention the guards that will intentionally set you up to get attacked if they dont like your politics. I have done time in a criminally insane institution though im not sure how much authotity i have to speak on this considering the environment is a usually regarded and softer and my crime was not necessarily political, even though we had rape and beatdowns there too, though i kept my opinions on anything to myself and minded my own bussiness so i avoided the bulk of the drama. Still, leftists have a big disadvantage on this front considering any type of violent action in service of the revolution will have to face this reality. This will deter a lot of people and i feel especially sad for the queer people that endure so much violence form the right yet cant retaliate because the alternative is being thrown into a sadistic rape dungeon to be tortured till suicide by both cops and inmates. This is a major blackpill a lot of people here are not ready to swallow.
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>>2881968
Basically non existent.

>>2881917
Is your fetish to be raped by a white prison gang? That's the white section of the prison btw and it's California also if you didn't know.

This site is such a shithole

I don't get the point of this thread it's pssy ramblings saying nothing

>>2882151
that's like 90% of threads in here



 

I like mamdani and planter
>why
idkno, they have aura, well at least mamdani, and also planter makes the maga seethe so i support him for that and only that.
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why do humans worship their own rulers?

>>2881484
Self-domestication.

>>2881422
this is true but the retards on this board have no original thoughts and they will get mad at you

>>2881998
My good thoughts aren't original, and my original thoughts aren't good. Sad!

>>2882109
I'm just going to interject here: lol.



 

A little known topic about how the basis of Vietnamesse coffee production came from their socialist era. Trade agreements that benefit the client state are rare and shows how communism can work


Reading like 5 of these pics gave me brain cancer

Thx, op



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i don't want to "read theory", i don't want to "liberate the proletariat". all i want is to see fucking awesome stalin edits and videos about how the red army destroyed everything that was in their way. why can't the left do this for me? the chuds have figured out that putting phonk and hitler into a tiktok is sick af, why can't tankies do this?

Twitterfags make some good edits i have to admit



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Bolivia issues arrest order against Morales over May and June road blockades
The document, signed by prosecutor Brayan Melgar Ledezma of the specialized corruption prosecution unit, names Morales and other unidentified individuals in connection with six alleged offenses: armed uprising against the security and sovereignty of the state, terrorism, endangering the safety of transportation, criminal association, public incitement to commit crimes, and endangering the safety of public services. The investigation stems from a complaint filed by the Pro Santa Cruz Civic Committee, later joined by the Interior Ministry.
https://en.mercopress.com/2026/07/30/bolivia-issues-arrest-order-against-morales-over-may-and-june-road-blockades

Murder victims in Ecuador were conducting probes into Noboa and US boat strikes
On June 15, Ecuadorian President Daniel Noboa was received at the Pentagon by US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, who thanked him for being a founding member of Donald Trump's “Shield of the Americas” coalition. “You have been a model partner with us,” Hegseth told him. In the week before that meeting, two women behind probes into the criminal activities of both governments and the Noboas were killed.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/29/dwub-j29.html

Child soldiers recount horrors of Sudan’s war and presence of Colombian mercenaries
The rare, firsthand accounts show the perils faced by tens of thousands of children believed to have been conscripted into the war by all sides. Six former child soldiers who were abducted and forced to fight with the Rapid Support Forces, known as the RSF, spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. Two said they were trained by Colombians.
https://apnews.com/article/sudan-war-child-soldiers-colombia-mercenaries-uae-rsf-9730de7a24a28895b2c2c500e7c1fd6b

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Secretive US court meant to deport alleged terrorists hears first case
The hearing, before the Alien Terrorist Removal Court, was open to the public and centered on Nazira Haji Zada, a 47-year-old lawful ​permanent resident accused of supporting Islamic State and helping conceal a failed Election Day 2024 mass shooting ​plot. Prosecutors say much of the evidence against the Texas woman cannot be publicly disclosed.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/first-case-secretive-us-court-meant-deport-alleged-terrorists-2026-07-30/

US to make visa bond requirements permanent, affecting mostly African countries
The program requires holders of passports from the affected countries to pay the bond to be interviewed for business and tourist visas — known as B1 and B2 visas — to travel to the United States. The bond is refunded if the visa application is denied or, if granted, if the person adheres to the visa terms. The Trump administration rolled out the program last August to crack down on visa overstays and as part of its broader efforts to curtail illegal migration. The government estimates that arresting and deporting visitors who have overstayed their visa costs about $18,000 per person.
https://apnews.com/article/visa-bonds-permanent-us-state-department-travelers-ca7e5a540309d7cafad47ed1520b9c68

Children face higher threat of US deportation as legal support deal expires
The expiring contract paid about 100 legal groups across the country to provide legal services to about 24,000 unaccompanied minors. The contract allowed the groups to enter government-funded shelters as part of their representation. It was unclear what would happen after the contract expires, or if they would still be allowed to access their young clients.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/31/children-face-higher-threat-of-us-deportation-as-legal-support-deal-expires
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Brazil: Solidary Campaign for Venezuelan People Affected by the Recent Earthquake
The Solidarity Group with the Venezuelan People launched a fundraising campaign organized in Dois Vizinhos, Paraná. They are mobilizing to gather donations for Venezuelan people affected by the recent earthquake. Starting in July, volunteers are going door to door collecting supplies, such as non-perishable food, clothing, medicines, hygiene products, and other basic essentials. The campaign is rooted in a broader support effort: organizers say the group was formed to help Venezuelan families who came to the municipality to work, and who later faced difficulties, especially around housing and the costs of everyday life. With limited assistance after the initial period of employment, families often end up sharing small spaces and relying heavily on people’s solidarity.
https://redherald.org/2026/07/29/brazil-solidary-campaign-for-venezuelan-people-affected-by-the-recent-earthquake/

China’s Upsurging Strike Trend
China is still the world’s worker’s strike capital. This fact is not always visible or perceived as such. The government of Xi Jinping, much to the linking of the capitalists, closes the siege against worker’s strikes with severity. Nevertheless, behind a facade of a unified, high-tech global powerhouse, this nation grapples with deep-rooted social unrest. Authorities frequently try to sweep these recurring conflicts under the rug, but undeniable reality makes them impossible to hide. The class struggle in China over recent decades has developed in the context of the country’s astonishing cycles of economic growth. In the first decade of the 2000s, rural struggles emerged prominently amid significant labor migration to export-oriented cities. Small farmers and rural workers clashed with local governments over the expropriation of their land, the advance of real estate development, and the rise of U.S.-style agribusiness. In the cities, from 2004 to 2008, strike movements blended the distinct characteristics of the Rust Belt in the North (where the former large-scale danwei system saw workers fighting layoffs and the restructuring of state-owned enterprises) and the Solar Belt in the South (where migrant rural workers demanded an enPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>everything is political!!!!
>Looks inside
>Actually is a highly individualized moral dilemma

Look buddy just because your moral problems have a political dimension doesnt make it political. Ask yourself whether the cause you think is political has the potential to mobilize the masses; if the only impact it has is soothing your conscience then its moral, not political, and you should by no means confuse it with actual political organizing.

Rather than thinking of these things as individual moral problems, I prefer to think of the collective-action effects of social signalling.
e.g. it does not matter whether or not I buy meat, however, if I am a vocally annoying vegan and I convince at least one other person to stop eating meat and to become a vocally annoying vegan, and they convince at least one other person… and so on, and so on, then this aggregates to a structural effect which can meaningfully shift (a) demand for meat and (b) the social position of meat eating (hopefully in a less cool, lower-status direction, or at least into the "controversial" category, further amplifying this structural effect.) leading to (c) greater production of meat alternatives and investment in lab-grown meat as a consequence even in the less optimistic scenarios, and reduced meat consumption and profits on-the-margin in more optimistic scenarios.

This holds for BDS, or to a lesser extent for "ethically sourced" products (The problem with the latter is that there's always the incentive for enshitification.) and most other things slighted as "virtue signalling" - signalling matters! people will kill themselves to send social signals! "I, a cool person, refuse to associate with Israel because they are evil" - they hate that! they're always trying to coolwash themselves as a normal country!

It is true that having an individual moral framework distinct from this is also much more healthy, but it is a larger mental leap when you're used to thinking structurally and denying yourself. Sometimes you have to double down on your existing methodology.

>>2881035
>Ask yourself whether the cause you think is political has the potential to mobilize the masses
Well by that standard almost nothing is political. Whatever the scribes of the duopoly say, I guess. Back in the 19th century the abolitionists tried to buy products not made by slaves and it failed miserably, guess slavery wasn't political.

>>2881177
>it does not matter whether or not I buy meat
It does matter though. Every bit matters.



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What happens to the party after communism is established? Does anyone believe organizations like the ccp or cpk or anyother communist party in power in a country will just willingly let go of all their power?
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>>2877628
>That day is near unthinkable so in the meantime there still needs to be people around to coordinate plan and justify society around.
So just a world ruled by people like Sam Altman and Peter Thiel but labeled as "communism"?

Nothing actually changes it's just that class antagonism dissolves, thus the state ceases being one definitionally, since the state is an organization for the oppression of some class

it immediately betrays all of its principals by forming trade deals with capitalist nations and multinational corporations because we live in the real world where nations cannot function as hermetically sealed self-sustained habitats completely independent from the rest of the world, i.e. the global capitalist economy

>>2881181
>what are the relations of production
>Ive never heard of an administration of things vs private accumulation

>>2881783
>administration of things
Yes that's what Marxists call their state. It's funny because they style themselves as more erudite but it sounds dumber than the anarchist nonsense about horizontally federate communes or whatever.



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