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Yeah I want that, FUCK YOU CHINA YOU'RE KEEPING GOOD GOVERNANCE AND NICE TECHNOLOGIES TO YOURSELF. FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER. I WANT THAT SHIT TOO. I DONT WANNA DO MY OWN THING YOU HELP ME OUT UYGHUR. WEIBO UYGHUR. BRING ME THE CHINA TO EASTERN EUROPE AND THE SEX ROBOTS AND EVERYTHING. I WANT DENGISM XIISM HERE RIGHT HERE MOTHERFUCKER. GOVERN ME CHINA YOU FUCKING TRAITORS, AUTONOMIST CHAUVINISTS I SHIT ON YOUR MOTHERS' COFFINS. CHINA OCCUPY EUROPE NOW. RULE EUROPE CHINA FUCK YOU I WANT SOCIALISM WITH CHINESE CHARACTERISTICS AND A SCIENTIFIC OUTLOOK ON DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE. WHY ISN'T IT POSSIBLE? IT IS POSSIBLE. COME HERE.
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>>2554963
SwCC is state capitalist but whatever you say

Stop being such an SLF

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SINO WORLD





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Is that true that Venezuela was way more free and richer before Hugo Chavez?
Many people i talked with said it was.
I'm not into history so much,so i wanted to ask you about this.


no, it was another comprador state like all lat am after operation condor. it was better if you were rich and owned oil.

>>2557162
>it was better if you were rich and owned oil.
Many such cases.



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The surveillance and general crackdown on muslims during the GWOT was fucking crazy. Look at some of these FBI guidelines for profiling "extremists" and justifying repression:

>Spreading religious fanaticism through irregular beards or name selection

Can't grow a suspicious beard or name your kid mohamed
>Wearing (or compelling others to wear) burqas with face coverings
Can't wear religious clothing
>Interfering with cultural and recreational activities, rejecting or refusing public goods and services such as radio and television.
Gotta listen to NPR I guess
>Publishing, printing, distributing, selling, producing, downloading, storing, reproducing, accessing, copying, or possessing articles, publications, audio or video with extremist content
Ridiculously vague
>Other speech and acts of extremism
Basically a justification to spy and harass anyone for any reason
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>>2542003
>Personally, I applaud China for running what is arguably one of the best counterinsurgency operations in history. What they are doing is clearly working. We should be taking notes and considering how to apply it to future counterrevolutionaries.
The "War On Terror" is estimated to have killed about 4 million people and made millions more refugees. Nobody has ever produced a single person ever killed in the "Uighur Genocide" in the nearly 8 or so years they've been talking about it. This entire thread is nothing more than naked apologia for the "East Turkestan" separatist movement, which act as mercenaries for NATO forces in Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh. Anybody that looks at the pogroms in Syria after the so-called "revolution" there last year knows what "East Turkestan" will be if the separatists gain power. This also promotes communism as being equal to imperialism and fascism. Telling how these Actual Socialists love to side with the vicious enemies of socialism over real-life socialist movements and countries. It's fucking timeless.

Can't believe it isn't immediately obvious how these points are from the chinese lol

>rejecting or refusing public goods and services such as radio and television.

As if any american institution would bring up public goods and services like this

>>2540752
Well its more humane to re-educate than to liquidate religious extremists. How the hell did these people survive during Mao is a mystery to me.

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>>2556893
>This entire thread is nothing more than naked apologia for the "East Turkestan" separatist movement
>This also promotes communism as being equal to imperialism and fascism. Telling how these Actual Socialists love to side with the vicious enemies of socialism over real-life socialist movements and countries. It's fucking timeless.
<China re-educating and preventing separatism, instead of killing them is bad as fascism or imperialism
What the actual fuck am I reading?

>>2540752
>but because the "good guys" did it and the "bad guys" are calling that a genocide it means it was all good
liberals: (smug) "heh, if I completely change the context and ignore class struggle against Zionist finance imperialism in the globalist "World Trade Center", ACTUALLY good things are actually bad. I bet you feel really embarrassed that you didn't imagine my hypothetical situation that ignores the Dictatorship of the NYC Jeffrey Epstein class that is actually real"



 

Dear anons, I am looking for an infographic that seems to have vanished from the internet. It was showing a map of Eastern Europe with a headline saying something like "Fall of socialism: failure or success?" and picturing growth of GDP per capita in various Eastern European nations between 1989 and something like 2010. It was very neatly made and clearly came from some think tank or another thing of the sort. Does anyone of you remember it? I apologize if I should have posted in some thread but I couldn't find anything appropriate.

Can't help you but maybe it was scrubbed and that shitty life expectancy of eastern bloc countries was pushed instead.



 

Leftypol could really learn something from Athenian democracy and the story of Aristides.
The fact Athenian democracy worked so well is what saved them numerous times especially from the advances of the Persian forces.
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>>2556083
>liberalism > liberalism

>>2556117
>collectivist
>tiny minority ruling over excluded majority
I think your dictionary is broken.

>>2556437
Even oligarchy (like parliamentarism) is more towards collectivist rule than a single tyrant.

>>2555248
it is actually so illustrative that athenian democracy was actually the most reactionary and oligarchical state, were power was tied to being a landlord. plato and aristotle knew this this is why they complained about their shitty system.

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>>2556475
That's not true. The tyrant which cares about the people is more democratic and hence collectivist at a broad scale than a collectivist aristocracy that only cares about itself (collectivist in a narrow scale). If a communist party only cares about the party, it is anti-popular and is less collectivist than a bonapartist dictator that cares about the plebs. You are confusing form with content.



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Can someone give me non-bullshit explanation of how exactly Western PROLETARIAT benefits from imperialism?

The West exported their investments and know-how and helped in the industrialization of the third world. Not just China, but also SEA, Asian tigers, India, Brazil, Poland, Malaysia etc. This resulted in the exact opposite of what happened in colonialism. The Western industries were hollowed out this time, and outsourced to the third world. Now sure, the Western bourgie benefited from this, but the money didnt trickle down much. That's why in the 1970s you could support a family and live a decent life doing a simple blue collar job and now you cant. So where exactly did the Western PROLETARIAT benefit from this imperialism?
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>>2536064
Do you think the west only became imperialist in the 1970s?

>>2556169
Yeah it's quite discouraging. In my head I justify it by saying that these people are probably still quite young and haven't been able to shed their chauvinistic views yet. Though that might just be my mega cope and all these people are the same age as me lol

>>2556866
Such a thing is predicated on the destruction of the west, maybe that's why they're mum about it

>>2556725
I love these e-communists that quote the holy gospel of Michael Parenti like he's one of the heads or Marxism. Hes the 80s equivalent of a youtube channel that does bitesized digestible videos on Marxist theory.

>>2556920
POV: Finally burning all of Marx’s collected workers and preparing to commit suicide because of my metaphysical evil

t. Honkie suburbanite that thinks “capitalism” is when you are a honkie suburbanite



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So, it's cool to talk about theory and all of that, but what's should I do to actually change the world instead of having theory discussion onlinr 24/7? What's the key stuff that I need to do to actually start to make a change in the world?
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>>2556800
Vuvuzela is run by a cartel, no need for the CIA boogeyman

>>2556907
>/leftypol/ supporting all kinds of far right critters "anti-imperialists" but stabbing socialists in the back
Another banger.

>>2556536
>>2556608
Join the Maoists they are the only principled group

>>2556940
>2% of workforce is needed to feed rest of population due to automation in agriculture
<lets start a peasant revolution
Brilliant.

>>2556907
Source?



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Germany’s hard-left icon steps down as leader of populist party she founded
“I will continue to be active in a leadership role within BSW,” Wagenknecht said. “And I will continue to support the party with great commitment on its path ahead and in the next election campaigns.” BSW, a party that merges elements of hard-left and hard-right politics — an ideology Wagenknecht has dubbed “left conservativism” — surged in national polls shortly after its creation and was particularly popular in the former East Germany, where the party won parliamentary seats in two states.
https://www.politico.eu/article/top-german-left-wing-politician-steps-down-leader-bsw-sahra-wagenknecht/
https://archive.ph/gUWAr

Tens of thousands in Portugal protest proposed new labour laws
Saturday’s protest, called by the trade unions, was in opposition to a planned revision of employment laws that Prime Minister Luis Montenegro’s government says is aimed at improving productivity and flexibility in the job market. Opponents say it threatens workers’ rights and should be withdrawn. Demonstrators carried posters that read “no to the labour package” and called for higher wages.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/tens-thousands-portugal-protest-proposed-new-labour-laws

Petro recalls Colombia’s ambassador to US over suspected plot to fabricate criminal charges
Petro made the decision after news publication Cambio published a photo taken by the White House that shows a Trump administration official holding open a folder with an image of Petro and his Venezuelan counterpart Nicolas Maduro in orange prison uniforms. Apart from the image, the document called “The Trump Doctrine for Colombia and the Western Heisphere” proposed, among other things, “comprehensive investigations into Petro’s campaign finances.”
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>Germany’s hard-left icon
Lmao

Trump threatens to cut air traffic controllers' pay
"For those that did nothing but complain, and took time off, even though everyone knew they would be paid, IN FULL, shortly into the future, I am NOT HAPPY WITH YOU," Trump wrote on Truth Social. He said he'd recommend bonuses of $10,000 to each controller who didn't take any time off during the shutdown.
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/10/trump-air-traffic-controllers-pay-shutdown
https://archive.ph/R443C

Male Drivers Sue Uber and Lyft For Sex Discrimination Over Women-Only Ride-Hailing Feature
Lawyers acting for the plaintiffs argue that male drivers “are discriminated against and receive fewer and different rides than they otherwise would absent the policy.” They contend that the policy “reinforces the gender stereotype that men are more dangerous than women.”
https://time.com/7332356/uber-lawsuit-sex-discrimination-lyft/
https://archive.ph/ZiLW1

Angry Democrats call on Schumer to resign after eight vote to end shutdown
Democrats are seething after news emerged on Sunday that eight members of their Senate caucus had collaborated with Republicans on crafting a compromise to end the longest government shutdown in US history, without winning any healthcare concessions that they had sought. But one name is coming in for more opprobrium than any other: Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader who had led the Democrats’ weeks-long stand against reopening the government without an extension of tax credits that lower premiums for Affordable Care Act (ACA) health plans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/10/chuck-schumer-resign-calls-shutdown-vote-democrats

Trump officials set to approve ‘forever chemical’ as pesticide ingredient
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(Chapo Trap House) 985 - The Murder Inc. Doctrine feat. Greg Grandin (11/10/25)
As we inch closer to war with Venezuela, historian Greg Grandin returns to Chapo for a history lesson about the War on Drugs as well as Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution. We also talk about the US’s long-running economic interests and petty feuds in Latin America, particularly regarding the region’s oil supplies. We then briefly speculate about just how bad and chaotic a regime change operation against Venezuela might be for the US and Latin America.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/985-the-murder-inc-doctrine-feat-greg-grandin-111025

CP of Greece, The provocations and anti-KKE slanders will fail once again
The so-called World Anti-Imperialist Platform (WAP) —the apologists for the Russian and Chinese bourgeoisie in their imperialist competition with the US and the Euro-Atlantic camp— are once again exposed. At a time when they indulge into fantasies about “anti-imperialist axes” and “anti-fascist fronts”, they remain silent about the fascist meeting of the “Paladins” held a few weeks ago in St. Petersburg. Under the official auspices of the Russian state and the ruling United Russia party, fascist scum from all over the world assembled there, including members of the Nazi Golden Dawn party. Led by the well-known anti-KKE obsessive Patelis, theoretical instructor of the WAP, they know believe that they have found an opportunity to launch a vulgar offensive against the KKE and the parties with which it cooperates. This time, they are targeting the Communist Party of Venezuela and, through it, the KKE, repeating the absurd claim that the CP of Venezuela (and, by extension, the KKE) is aligned with the forces of María Corina Machado — forces that call on the US to intervene militarily to overthrow the Maduro government.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-The-provocations-and-anti-KKE-slanders-will-fail-once-again/

Democrats Caved in the Shutdown Fight. Unions Let Them.
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Thanks News Anon



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“All practical work in connection with the organization of the uprising was carried out under the direct leadership of Comrade Trotsky, Chairman of the Petrograd Soviet. It can be said with certainty that the party owes the rapid transition of the garrison to the side of the Soviet and the bold execution of the uprising above all and mainly to Comrade Trotsky.”
- J.V. Stalin, Pravda, November 6, 1918
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>>2555732
It's so funny how Stalin in the 1910s was saying revolutionary things about how commodities couldn't exist under socialism and all of that.

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>your opinions changed over the decades according to a changing world
<that obviously means you’re a sell out
Is this a bait thread or entirely sincere?

>>2556432
Various demands and slogans in Marxist orthodoxy showed to be inviable when the moment came.

- The classic slogan of abolishing the military and replacing it with worker militias proved to be inviable at the start of the Russian civil war, standing armies like the Whites ate them for breakfast.
- Getting rid of commodity production and paying peasants in kind was unsustainable. The peasantry almost revolted during War communism. It was inviable given that the Soviets had to industrialize and trade with foreign nations.
- The global revolution didn't take off and and the possibility of a revolution/socialism in one country was no longer some dismissed fantasy but a serious debate
- The ideas of free speech, free press, freedom of criticism also clashed with the brutal reality of the Russian civil war and the massive counterrevolution that was mounting by the White army, the allied intervention, the central powers and the nationalists.

I'm sure there's more out there.

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>>2555732
That webm is cool and everything but in reality Trotsky was against invading Poland



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I was going to post this in /usapol/ but effort posts usually get buried so bare with me. I just want some opinions on this draft of some thoughts:

The capitalist class operates with little regard for borders, a fluidity it leverages to its advantage. The entire United States functions as a network of neocolonies—these states host governments that do not represent their people, but rather the corporations that operate within them. The majority of the population is exploited within this system; in fact, only a privileged 10% truly benefit from the capitalist-imperialist economy.

Beneath this broadly exploited class lies a layer of the hyper-exploited, who form the core source of slave labor for this anti-life regime. This super-exploitation is manufactured along racial, gender, and other lines, a deliberate construct of capitalism's superstructure. The rise of a hyper-militarized "War from Within," waged by agencies like ICE, makes this brutally clear. Hispanic people—and by extension, Indigenous people, as the term "Hispanic" is itself a colonizer label invented in the 1970s to impose a European (Spanish) heritage—are primary targets. Even the spectacle of Proud Boys leaders who identify as Hispanic cannot obscure this systemic reality; it only reiterates the haunting contradictions we must confront.

This pattern is rooted in an unfinished past. The first American Revolution of 1776 was ultimately a war over which faction of the capitalist class would control the colonies. While it included a small but notable faction of true people's revolutionaries—figures like Thomas Paine, who argued for abolishing slavery from the outset—they failed. Their defeat meant the people's revolution was never completed.

Therefore, we are not simply communists or anarchists, though we may be influenced by both. We are abolitionists. Our purpose is to finish that people's revolution and free this land from capital's control.

This struggle did not begin with us, nor did it pause after 1776. It is a continuous thread woven through this land's history: in the pan-tribal resistance led by Tecumseh, in the stunning victory of Indigenous nations at the Battle of Little Bighorn, in the bloody righteousness of Nat Turner’s rebellion, and in John Brown’s holy war against chattel slavery. The Civil War itself contained revolutionary, abolitionist currents that were ultimately subverted by capital, which traded chattel slavery for the prison oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2555249
>massive identity crisis
I think you just hit the nail on the head. They didn't teach history or civics after the last boomer graduated and people became mesmerized by escapist infotainment and propaganda. I see people searching for meaning since they don't know where they came from, but maybe I don't see so good anymore and someone better than me will eventually flesh it out.

>>2555263
>I see people searching for meaning since they don't know where they came from
Then I see a good oportunity to vanquish nationalism, not to raise it from the dead in make up.

Stealth bump

Read Settlers

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>>2535946
>>2536413
hmm i read these two posts back to back and the first one seems very reasonable and the second one seems to be coping and seething.



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