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Vietnam has a smaller public sector than the United States and they are Pro-America, Pro-Israel, and Anti-China in their foreign policy. I have no idea how after America nearly committed genocide in your country you can put them over fellow socialist states, they will condemn America when it does something shitty but never act on it, they are practically just Spain, Norway, or Ireland when it comes to foreign policy. I know that China is also shitty when it comes to foreign policy and stuff too but they are at least technically Anti-America.
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>>2798800
I dont know if its objective reality, I just trust the 10's of millions of sincere communists in Vietnam to keep the ship in the right direction.

>>2797994
it always shocks people when i tell them xi has a doctorate in marxist law


>>2798818
>Posting Xi in a thread about Vietnam
At least there are three 8s in your post number.

>why does a weaker capitalist nation act cucked towards stronger capitalist nations
Because the weak do what they must etc etc. Don't worry, the Vietnamese ruling class cucks themselves to your beloved capitalist nation China as well, so you can sleep easy tonight Mr.Nationalist.



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The revolutionary task, as Foucault articulated in his debate with Chomsky, lies not merely in the denunciation of the obviously repressive organs of the state and ruling class but in the patient, systematic exposure of the mechanisms of power embedded within those institutions that present themselves as benign, neutral, or even benevolent. The bourgeois therapeutic apparatus, psychology, psychiatry, medicine, sciences, sexuality, and its allied practices is a paradigmatic case of such a mechanism. It functions as the dominant social institution for the management of subjective distress, yet its foundational logic is the atomization of the sufferer. It systematically abstracts the individual from the material conditions of their alienation, reframing crises of exploitation and oppression as failures of personal adjustment or thinking. This is not liberation from mental suffering; This is more accurately described as the pacification of the mind veiled in the clinical language of care.'

This individualizing logic is not incidental to the therapeutic project; it is its structural function under capitalism. As the radical psychiatry movement contended, fostering mental health was to be an art rather than a science, requiring a shift away from individual psychotherapy and toward supportive group work, coupled with direct social and political action. The consumer/survivor/ex-patient (c/s/x) movement, a powerful, decentralized coalition emerging from the anti-psychiatry struggles of the 1970s and 1980s, forged the very concept of peer support, where those with lived experience provide mutual aid outside the medical model's bourgeois hierarchical structures. This movement has been instrumental in developing a variety of peer-support alternatives. AA was one of the original movements to flirt with these concepts in it's religious, communal stance against the medical world's treatment towards alcoholism at the time, directly organized by the alcoholics themselves, not passively accepting the official treatment they were often subject to. Things like this often end up creating something more than a mere psychotherapy model or a technique; it is a movement of community that fundamentally challenges the power relations embedded in professionalized care and recovery itself.

The "institutional psychotherapy" movement in postwar France, which profoundly influenced figures like Frantz Fanon, Felix Guattari, and Michel Foucault, offers a vision Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2798450

Ha disorganized don't mean jack when they're good at running their mouths with long winded speeches and sounding all knowing with their confusin manipiulative rhetorics so people eat up their crap. You give losers like this three weeks on a job? They won't lift a finger for you. But you give them three weeks alone with people in your orgs? They'll have them talking like whatever some scared Republican thinks when he hears the big scary word socialist. People love watching chaos and fun looking crap, so these idiots have the edge in America;s alternative political world right out the gate if you let them that is. America's cultish as all hell so folks fall in line behind cults when things get rough and our job is to make damn sure that doesn't happen. And by the way, buddy, the person you're defending? His friends have pictures with people from the MOVE organization a cult …the U.S. government labeled as one. Lmfao. The Juche poster posted here before saying "communists need a socialist version of the Branch Davidians to spread across America, minus the rape and incest."… What kind of ideology is that in socialism? I'm real curious, explain your defense of people who defend authoritarian cults, rape?

>>2797350
I'm genuinely surprised you didn't mention Wilhelm Reich or Roberto Friere in this essay, fam. Ever heard of Soma? (not the accupunture thing)

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>>2798510
are you truly ready for the orgone pill anon

>>2798443
honestly sort of true. has anyone analyzed why any of this stuff didnt catch on?

>Foucault
stopped reading

>>2797350
is that some fisher? source?



 

Modern transhumanism seems to have been entirely coopted by the extreme right, the fascist right.
The Elon Musks, Peter Thiels, Alex Carps, Sam Altmans, Mark Zuckerbergs, Nick Lands, Curtis Yarvins of the world.

These are people who hate humanity. Hate. Hate. Hate. Nothing but hate for the human condition.
These are people who see capitalism as both inescapable and worth accelerating to its maximum hostility, just to line their own pockets and see how many they can kill in the process, which they take pleasure in.
They want the working classes as a living dead, as digitised servitors, as brains hooked into a corporate matrix, hopeless and powerless to do anything but work.
They watch at Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell, and read Neuromancer and decided the hellish dystopia is what they want, at any cost.
Why? For the aesthetics alone? Because they expect to be the corpolords on top of the dogpile for a brief moment? Due to pure psychopathological sadism?
If you listen to them they've stated their aims:
They want city states, owned and ran by megacorps, ruled by CEO kings, when millions of serfs toil for the 0.0001% to live in a synthetic cyberutopia.

Is it any wonder then, that the modern left reacts today with a total hatred to transhumanism?
Recently there's been a whole spate of videos from leftist content creators outlining how they believe transhumanism is an ontological evil, conceptually and entirely with no distinction between various ideological forms it may take.

But it didn't use to be that way.
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>>2798174
Eat shit then primmie


>>2797789
>Wojak in 2026

I'm sure humans in the far future, after being genetically modified and riddled with cybernetic implants, would disgust most modern people, but I'm not sure how you could oppose it without going against industrial, instrumental logic. Might as well throw away your glasses and computers and heart transplants. I wonder if the sex instinct will be destroyed as a redundant waste of time, or maybe used as a psychological carrot. Do X labor, receive Y pleasure. Or we might be desexualized, but the reward would be a bit of wire head euphoria.

>>2795765
>Modern transhumanism seems to have been entirely coopted by the extreme right, the fascist right.
bc leftist transhuminism is predicated on popular ownership of the means of production



 

The cults of personality of 20th century communism were a mistake, though perhaps unavoidable. The emergence of pronounced cults of personality in several 20th-century socialist states can be understood as a historical misstep rather than an inherent feature of Marxist theory. Stalin himself denounced this in his interview with Feuchtwanger, and some personal letters. The concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat, as developed within Marxism, refers to the collective rule of the working class organized through its institutions. In practice, however, this principle was often conflated with the authority of individual leaders such as Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Kim Il Sung. This conflation obscured the distinction between class power exercised through mass participation and the symbolic centrality of particular historical figures.

This development did not arise in a vacuum. Many of the societies in which socialist revolutions succeeded were shaped by predominantly peasant populations, relatively low levels of literacy, and recent histories of feudal or semi-feudal rule. In such contexts, political authority had long been associated with monarchs, emperors, or strongman figures. It is therefore unsurprising that revolutionary movements, even when grounded in collective and egalitarian ideals, were interpreted through familiar cultural patterns that emphasized personal leadership. The elevation of revolutionary figures into near-mythic symbols can be seen as a byproduct of these conditions rather than a deliberate theoretical aim.

Recognizing this helps clarify that the issue was not simply the presence of influential leaders, but the tendency to substitute their personal authority for the organized, conscious activity of the working masses. A more consistent application of proletarian rule would emphasize institutions, education, and participation over symbolic identification with individuals. Understanding the historical roots of these personality cults allows for a more grounded assessment of past socialist experiences without reducing them to caricature or dismissing their broader social and economic transformations.
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>>2798808
I once heard Lenin didn't want to be mummified and put in the mausoleum. I think he would have cringed at all the statues and shit. It's not false modesty either. He wants you to put statues up of the workers instead. True modesty. Happy May Day, comrade.

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>>2798819
The party and the people wanted to keep his body, what I think trumps his personal desires on the matter. Happy May Day.

>>2798819
there will come a joyous day when we will have to say "Sorry Lenin" and put up even more statues of him

>>2798799
OP's post might lowkirkenuinely be LLM generated but if you disagree with it your still a crypto-sorelian tbh

They were a product of their time/material conditions not a policy choice



 

I legitimately do not understand why people believe he was wrong. Look at Jewish people and how specialized into getting better at academia or India with how certain groups become natural fishermen. Lysenkoism feels like it's striking a cord between Stirnerite individualism and collectivism and it legitimately sounds cooler than Darwin's lame "one will breed more than the other and the species will survive". Darwin's system doesn't explain suicide for example.
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>>2798022
Are you sure you want to use this angel of attack while defending Lysenko?

>>2799065
>angel

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>>2799080
you are my angel, come from way above, to bring me love, love ya

>>2799065
>oh he didnt make them up from nothing it was just "bias" which is okay because i like the results



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>Some even believe that artificial general intelligence, or A.G.I., will create a permanent underclass. In the United States, the term “underclass” gained currency in the 1960s to describe the factory workers left behind by the postwar automation boom. Today, it has become repopularized as a viral term for a theory that posits that people have a limited window of time to build wealth before A.I. and robotics are advanced enough to fully replace human labor. At that point, everyone will get frozen in their current class positions: The rich will be able to deploy superintelligent machines to do their bidding, and everyone else will be rendered useless and unemployable, left to live off welfare scraps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/30/opinion/ai-labor-work-force-silicon-valley.html

So is it over or will throwing millions of people into becoming peasants lead to a revolution?
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>>2798264
80% of this thread unironically shares your libtard analysis lole

>A.G.I
Automated Gooning Intelligence?

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Humanoid robots incoming.

>>2798256
listen mate, i watch hundreds oflongform content videos on the youtubes where unqualified petty bourgeoise imposters summarised wikipedia articles sounding authorative. i watch videos on economics, computer science, politics etc. when i'm not watching these highly stumilating and thought provoking video essays by selfimportant twats trying to make a quick buck, i listen to podcats by thought leaders and critical thinkgers such as leks fridmann, erik weinstain et. al. i am basically a modern day davinschi at this point.

>>2797857
>buy

They dont need anyone to buy their products. They will just print money and give it to themselves. The idea is they dont need people anymore if robots can do stuff. So no need for producing products to give to people so they can do what you order them.



 

Liberal "mutual aid" is simply charity draped in the rhetoric of radical anti‑charity, a food drive, a medicine or clean‑needle table, a hot meal dispensed downward. Such interventions may be momentarily useful, but they are not mutual aid in the materialist sense. They reproduce the giver‑receiver relation, the commodity form of assistance, and the reification of the helper as petite‑bourgeois dispenser / volunteer. The recipient remains an object of pity; the circuit of capital is interrupted only at the point of transfer, not at the point of social reproduction. The empirical reality contradicts the self‑congratulatory narrative of radical cliques, there is more genuine mutual aid, more autonomous social reproduction, more daily cooperation outside the wage occurring in the poorest, most abandoned neighborhoods than in the entire apparatus of the NGO left and its salon revolutionaries. The most effective organizers, those who actually emerge from the material conditions of the working poor and the lumpenproletariat, struggle daily against the immiseration capitalism has imposed upon them yet they are systematically ignored by white‑collar, Ivy League students who inhabit comfortable, cushioned lives, who speak the language of Marxism while practicing hyper‑individualism, who mistake performative radicalism for class struggle, and who treat the poor as abstract signifiers rather than as comrades with whom one eats, sleeps, and fights with. This is not a failure of theory; it is a failure of class position entirely. The petite‑bourgeoisie has colonized the left, and until it is expelled, or until it learns to shut the fuck up and take orders from those who actually live the struggle, the light of truth will remain hidden behind a cloud of grant proposals and endless virtue signaling.

Real mutual aid is not an event. It is a mode of living, the daily, tedious, yet joyful labor of reproducing the material conditions of collective survival outside the wage, outside the bourgeois state, outside the NGO, and, ideally, outside every other institution that mediates and limits working‑class power. This process ideally must begin with the capture of space and the utilization of the commons. Territory is not merely a backdrop to existence; it is the material precondition for autonomous social reproduction.

I do not agree with all of Kropotkin's theoretical works, but his Mutual Aid, A Factor of Evolution remains a solid analysis oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2798502
>>Grew up with a Christian working-class mechanic dad.
>>Church every sun day. Raised respectful.
>>Small town god's country. No room for antisocial behavior.
>> So the left and people in American cities feel foreign to me.
>>Visited cities they're urban hellholes, no stars to see, no owls howling.
>>Get why people in big cities are aggro
>>Got added to a Reddit group chat, told to come here with scripts to fight fascists.
>>Thought they were teaching me. Got tricked.

I don't get why people here think juche fascism is good though. Isn't Juche bad? What do OP believe if its not? Everything about NK looks cultish too me people in the group chat didnt seem like lying?

>>How I got interested in socialism


Don't laugh or flame like the left on ig does to me. I left Baptism and evangelicalism. Prefer Catholicism not the church itself but the community, the charity lifestyle. Protestants avoid the poor, see them as dirty a lot not always but the most popular churches of Protestantism are not like the most popular catholic churches. In Catholicism and Islam, martyrdom for justice is a big part of believing. In Protestantism work ethic replaces that. My leftist curiosity period started as a becoming devout Catholic. Lots of anti-fascist, pro-immigrant Catholics i didnt know. My family church had dog whistles about immigrants. First Catholic church I went to, the priest said "Blessed are the poor" multiple times never heard that before. Said hoarding wealth leads to eternal suffering, the catholic hell seemed to focus on people who are anti justice… very different from the dark ages of catholicism. My old church just talked identity politics for lost white people non stop. Catholicism pushed me from fascism to socialism, my perish members had a meeting and said i couldnt post nick fuentes or anti palestinian memes as a part of their perish, please don't yell at me i was young and dumb still am but im trying to better myself because when my faith group attacked my old world view idk it felt like the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2798506


i listed my background because i wanted people to give me reading or advice to understanding these ideas, how im wrong now not to be manipulated all that sutff based on who i am

>>2798506
>I don't get why people here think juche fascism is good though. Isn't Juche bad? What do OP believe if its not? Everything about NK looks cultish too me people in the group chat didnt seem like lying?
The further left you go the more distrustful people are of mainstream media narratives. Question everything you hear about any foreign state you don't personally live in. We have no fucking idea what North Korea is like, and the only people you can really ask about it are North Koreans. Not the North Koreans that fled to South Korea and are now TV celebrities who make a living denouncing North Korea, but the actual people living there currently.

All that said, you seem like someone that genuinely wants to do the right thing and I really respect you for being honest about your upbringing. I would suggest looking into Christian Socialism/Communism/Anarchism, whichever you have a preference for. You'll get a lot of pushback for being religious but most organized labor these days has a religious undertone to it.
You might get some value out of the Marxist internet archive's sections on religion and ethics:
https://www.marxists.org/subject/religion/index.html
https://www.marxists.org/subject/ethics/index.htm
Sorry I can't be more helpful with reading material anon, I was hoping someone else would reply because I was not raised Christian and have never read about religious Marxism. My background is Arab so I'm more familiar with Muslim Socialists like the FLN and the groups in Iraq/Syria that are mostly dead now.

When it comes to not falling for misinformation and psyops, I think it's something you have to develop through experience and just being hypercritical of everything you consume. Also just reading the basic Marxist texts to have an understanding of dialectical materialism and how nations operate goes a long way. Like, it's obviously in America's interest to paint North Korea as a hellhole, so if I'm reading any American or Anglo-targeted news about North Korea I'm gonna assume there's a slant to it and do my own due diligence on confirming facts etc. If you can't find sources for a claim lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2798524 (me)
also til North Korea has its own official translation of the bible and now I want a copy just out of morbid curiosity of what they changed from the south korean version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_North_Korea#Christianity

>>2798493
>>2798506
Since you seem sincere I'll give you some explanations:
Short version of Juche:
Massive devastation of North Korea by the American military during the Korean war necessitated state driven industrial and agricultural development to feed, cloth and house the survivors. The Soviets and Chinese lent a hand, but North Koreans came to the conclusion that they couldn't necessarily just totally rely on either. One might say that this came in handy when the Soviet Union croaked and the development assistance stopped, eventually becoming just standard trade with Russia and China.
So with those characteristics and the Kim family also taking part in the previous anti Japanese resistance efforts you've got Juche.
On it being "fascism", I'll say that fascism is used in liberal-conservative spaces in a very a vague sense of "authoritarianism". It helps to actually analyze the class fractions that help propel it into power and see what those class fractions do. You usually have aggrieved groups of downwardly mobile small business owners, professionals, soldiers, non organized workers and others who see capital plunging the world into crisis and want to create a "cooperative" system between national capital and "national" labor, and often wanting to annihilate those deemed beneath them. They also see Communism as a menace to ""tradition"" and their special snowflake ""cooperative"" economy. (The "national" bourgeois has a tendency to help tamp down on many of the redistributive aspects of the fascist program once they get into power though).
I don't think this really describes Juche, do you?
Here's some reasonably short readings on Fascism:
https://www.marxists.org/subject/fascism/conze-wilkinson/index.htm

https://libcom.org/article/nazism-and-working-class-sergio-bologna

I have heard people give high praise to Wages of Destruction for a long version of the German case, but I unfortunately have not been able to get it from my library yet.

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Last year there was this masterpiece of a thread https://leftypol.org/dead/res/6179.html
that got moved to >>>/dead/, in spite of its schizophrenic rants I feel like there were some good points made there.

Tl;dr for those who don't want to read through it the thesis is that the workers are the counter-revolutionary subject. Highly recommend reading it though.

With that clarified lets continue discussion on the thesis.
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Who is the poster who makes titles all of his image posts as ClipboardImage.png? Easily one of the worst posters on this entire forum I have seen him argue against himself multiple times, bump years and months-old threads just to start up a new controversy, argue and encourage both sides of a debate to drag on a discussion forever, and make the most ridiculous bait posts.


>>2797451
Its just what happens when you copy paste a image onto here, or do what I do often and screengrab something with print screen.

>>2797451
But this is an anonymous board.

>>2796898
>victim blaming

yeah the retarded proles just cant help themselves, there is an evil mind control ray forcing they to reject objective information and vote for right wingers, there is nothing they can do to avoid this, they aren't accountable at all



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Lately leftists online (such as Logo Daedalus) have been speculating about a possible return to 2010s HR individualist managerial political correctness (a.k.a., woke) in light of Trump’s falling popularity polls over the Epstein files and his failure to rebound the US economy as well as his second administration being overall more fascist and extreme than the first one both rhetorically (see the DHS’s Twitter account which seems to be ran by a wignat) and in practice (e.g., expansion of ICE under the current regime).

Maybe this will age like milk, but personally I don’t think the woke will ever come back, primarily due to the fact that it arose during a period in American history that can’t be replicated in the foreseeable future as well as because it got heavily exhausted to its fullest potential by 2024, something else will form instead but I can’t put my fingers on it. Let me elaborate…

Yes, there may be backlash to Trump in the form of:

  • greater tolerance for immigration,

  • renewed talk about abolishing ICE (which isn’t actually necessary for border security and overlaps with existing agencies),

  • less willingness to tolerate soft white nationalism or openly white-nationalist speech now that the Trump project has made its racial character explicit.

But I don’t think that means a return to the specific ideological package of the 2010s.
The elite liberal factions that promoted “wokeness” as a substitute for social democracy feel politically exhausted. Their compromises — with Trumpism, with Zionism, with capital more broadly — are remembered, and they’ve already pivoted to new projects like “abundance,” technocratic managerialism, or vibes-based productivity politics.

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>>2798860
No, the comments in every social media blaming "🧃" for everything including Columbine, Christopher Columbus, Slavery in the US
It's wild some of these people look for jews under their bed before going asleep

>>2798986
So you're telling me the censorship is so bad they need to use emojis to bypass it?

>>2798702
stop resisting my bbç

In the opposite of this I think that anti-woke will be around for quite a while. There is certainly a sort of hyper repetitive content from the right that I simply call the "Chud hole" or ant-lion politics where a deluge of petty grudges such as ugly people in media, general "cringe" from the left and poor translations are constantly dredged up to keep people who buy into that shit in line. I think the increasingly petty nature of the online left might actually be a good way to counter this because simply "going for the nuts" of the online right by just going no u when it comes to calling them ugly retards might actually wake up some people who are kind of chud curious but aren't fully buying into it yet for whatever reason.
Zoomer men in particular are vain as fuck and juts noticing how ugly Asmongold, Heelvsbabyface is even if they point out Agent Kochinski or some online transsexuals is enough to keep them out of the hole I feel.

>Lately leftists online (such as
who cares. grass yourself.



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I fucking hate classcucks, the classcucks I hate the most are by far the apolitical illiterate ones, my human diaper of a boss just hired a fucking retard that gives no fucks about welding PPE and works stupidly fast while also welding and fabricating like shit. We have tried time and time again to tell him to work slower and to demand PPE or else our boss will demand us the same and the fucking imbecile doesn't change

God damn what a fucking retard
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>>2797592
Jesus did not ask for graven images to be made of him
which is why the protestants replaced the crucifix with the cross

>>2795726
based video

>>2797371
Your small campost cock can't comoete with BBC

>>2799037
You said spreading the BBC meme is /pol/tard racism a week ago doe

>>2799038
I am doing it ironically



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