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Cuba is currently facing one of its worst energy crisies in its history, entirely caused by the US goverment further tighting sanctions on Cuba, and with the recent overthow of the Venezuelan goverment now Cuba has lost its most valuable trade partner.
There is a deficit over 2,000 MW, so its supply isn't even coming close to its demand.

Local transportation, services, and obviously healthcare is being restricted. And considering Cuba does more for the global south in heathcare then literally any western country, it tells you how much this really effects the world, not just the nation itself. As of writting this thread Russia is sending a humanitarian ship to Cuba, do we think the US is gonna stop the ship?

So i must ask, what can we do indiviually to help Cuba?
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>>2760892
maybe evidence that they really weren't bullshitting the country in some boiling the frog op re:the war in iran and really thought they'd be done by now. At this point if Cuba collapsed it'd be a tax on resources to take and occupy 10 million people that don't have any strategic resources when resources are in short supply already for the iran war. pissing off russia doing piracy on their tankers has a different feeling of cost to it now vs before the war a couple months ago. the time table is messed up so they'll get back to cuba later, is what they are likely telling themselves.

>>2760384
donald cuck strikes again!

>>2760915
>is what they are likely telling themselves
Yep. They never allow for the law of unintended consequences so they have to keep making rash judgements on the fly.

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more ejercito cubano

>>2760358
crazy how darth putler the right wing dick tator was the only one to step up on this meanwhile all the latam "leftist" goverments cucked out



 

Have you read Revolutionary Strategy by Mike Macnair?
Do communists need a new strategy of patience and a return to the political independence of the working class?

The working class doesn’t want independence or to rule

Cunt for trying to rehabilitate Kautskyism. Trash for that alone
Also Cockshott wiped the floor with him whenever they issued polemics towards each other



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Ship of Neocons edition


>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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>>2763836
he won't. and if he does, he will just recreate nato. he will labelled 'anti-de-dei-zed' nato o algo.
>>2764057
what do you mean? albanesse and starmer did the same.

>>2764057
the event was closed press, the video was not meant to be released, so he was a lot more candid than usual


>>2762771
>mfw the media and public completely ignore the fact that it's blatantly propaganda
>mfw I have no face

>>2763969
Trump revealed his presidential library will be in Miami. He is associated with Florida now and is the stereotypical snowbird retiree



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Who created Christian Zionism? I have been studying the Bible recently and the topic and I cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.
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>>2680698
>Who created Christian Zionism? I have been studying the Bible recently and the topic and I cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.

I think American Protestantism has become a distinct religious expression different from traditional global Protestantism. Maybe the most distinct characteristic of that American Protestantism is its millenarian "waiting for the end times" attitude. There are armies of people who believe in an Evangelical End Times in their lifetime in this Sorelian, mythic sense. Like these people genuinely think they'll live to see the earth open up, armies of angels and demons fighting each other, people disappearing, so on.

I cant stress the reality of this belief enough. Like there's a scene in the movie Red State by Kevin Smith where this murderous cult of evangelicals stop killing and immediately start losing their shit with joy when they think they hear the trumpets signaling Armageddon. If you talk to people who grew up in the background of a strict Seventh Day Adventist household about that scene, quite a few will say it viscerally, emotionally effected them, even after they've left their particular sect, because many have been trained from childhood to think "you'll hear those trumpets one day and the end times are coming."

The modern incarnation of Christian Zionism, functionally, is an attempt to hasten the end times. They've created a "checklist" of "prophecies" that they think must be fulfilled to usher in the end of days. One of those is that they imagine the modern nation-state of Israel must exist and all the Jews must go there and another temple must be built, and then Jesus will come back to end the world. But they'll see it as a time to rejoice because all the sinners: the whores, the fags, the papists, the muslims, the buddhists, the atheists, the drug addicts, and all the others will be dragged down to the fiery pits of Hell while they get to ascend to Heaven.

What's especially funny is that Trump personally fulfills a lot of the criteria for "Antichrist" but because these Christians are a modern Pharisees and emPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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THE “CHRISTIAN” COLONIALIST STATE CALLED ISRAEL

The Zionist settlers should listen to Sayyed and leave so called israel . Sayyed seems to know the root of the problem, and the solution to this problem; and he has warned the settlers to stop being part of this endeavor and to leave the place if they want security and safety, because there is no security and safety in the temporary state. Sayyed added they should do this as soon as possible because there will come a time when they will not be able to leave . Sayyed seems to bring up the fact that what is in store for israelis is what was in store for the Vietnamese agents to the US when the US decided to withdraw after it was defeated by the Viet Cong and left behind thousand of agents to their fate .
The truth is that the problem that very few are bringing up is that of the foundation of the usurping state, and how it was founded and who founded it, and the role of the Jews in all this .The owners of the project of israel are not the Jews , they are the colonialists, and the colonialists imposed it on the Jews who rejected it and refused it at first before some notorious Jews accepted it and embarked on it and made most Jews embark on it .
Many sources say -including Chomsky -that israel was conceived in the sick minds of European Christians. This is where the concept of israel took birth and developed. It is a Christian concept ; and this concept had to go through racism and anti Semitism and wait for the 2nd world war in order to materialize. The European colonialists- together with the Nazis- started this endeavor before some Jews signed up for it under colonial pressure . The Europeans segregated against the Jews , and the Nazis persecuted them, after which – and due to which- the colonialists sought to protect the Jews – so to speak- and shelter them by sending them to Palestine, a place that they could claim because of historical and religious reasons and where they could be protected . But this is only in appearance .The truth is that the israeli endeavor is but an updated version of the crusades of the medieval times; it is a Christian colonial endeavor that seeks to take possession of what the Christians think is theirs which is Jerusalem and what is considered to be the Holy Land where Jesus Christ lived and died on the cross. The Jews here are only a cover and a useful tool .
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>>2763155
THE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND THE DOCTRINE OF DISCOVERY

“At the beginning of the Crusades in 1095, Pope Urban II issued the Papal Bull Terra Nullius – a decree explaining the policy of the Catholic Church about empty land. This decree gave European kings the right to “discover” and claim land in non-Christian areas. In 1452, Pope Nicholas V extended this policy through the Papal Bill Romanus Pontifex that declared war against all non-Christians in the world and authorized the conquest of their nations and territories.”
Colonialism is a Christian church doctrine. It is an occasion to acquire wealth in an illegal way by robbing others. The Christians are the chosen people, and the promised land is the whole world. It is this doctrine that was the starting point of colonialism. A doctrine that gives supremacy to the Christian western civilization over any other civilization, and gives to this civilization the right over any land or anything that belongs to non Christians. This allowed the Spanish court to usurp the Native lands in the New world and- as a result- everything in the New World belonged to the Spanish court, and therefore to the Church, including the lives of those who live on it, not to speak of the resources. And because those resources were limited as the land is limited, the whole endeavor needed to be organized and the shares distributed .What founded the state of israel is this doctrine that is functioning up to this minute, and what the colonialists got in terms of non Christian territory they gave to the Jews as a compensation for the violations committed against them and in order to get rid of them after persecuting them , and as an attempt to use the Jews in a new experiment and find. The israeli endeavor is a colonialist endeavor by excellence .
Therefore colonialism does not act blindly and in a random way. It is based on a clear political doctrine and it is founded on a law issued by the Church itself , and what the colonialist Christians are doing is applying an existing law, and this regardless of the kind of Church involved in this endeavor because this is a universal law . This law – the Doctrine of Discovery law – has been cancelled recently by the Vatican, and the Vatican hopes by this to absolve the Church from all the crimes that were committed by the church itself who funded these expeditions that were deadly to millions of Natives. However, the effects of this Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2680698
> cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.
Yes the bible specifically says that the Old Jews lost the covenant and that the New Jews(Christians) have it now. Israel is the church which is the body of Christ. The descendants of Abraham is anyone who believes in Christ.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%209&version=HCSB
>9 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience is testifying to me with the Holy Spirit[a]— 2 that I have intense sorrow and continual anguish in my heart. 3 For I could almost wish to be cursed and cut off[b] from the Messiah for the benefit of my brothers, my own flesh and blood. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the temple service, and the promises. 5 The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent,[c] came the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever.[d] Amen.

>6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Neither are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants.[e] On the contrary, your offspring will be traced[f] through Isaac.[g] 8 That is, it is not the children by physical descent[h] who are God’s children, but the children of the promise are considered to be the offspring. 9 For this is the statement of the promise: At this time I will come, and Sarah will have a son.[i] 10 And not only that, but also Rebekah received a promise when she became pregnant[j] by one man, our ancestor Isaac. 11 For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand— 12 not from works but from the One who calls—she was told: The older will serve the younger.[k] 13 As it is written: I have loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau.[l]


>Galatians 3:28-29, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor fem
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Evangelicals that want to destroy the world, won't it suck if they turn out to be right on eschatology?
If the catholics are right I'll just go to purgatory but if the evangelicals are right then I'm going straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200



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what incentive is there for a first worlder to embrace an ideology that wants him dead and broke?

>I want to unionize to have a higher standard of living

<TREATLERITE, stop doing that, you should earn less not more, your wealth is exploited from me, the true working class


>I like social programs and public healthcare, I like having walkable streets

<EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IS BECAUSE YOU STOLE IT, COUNT YOUR DAYS WHITEY, WE ARE GOING TO KILL YOU ALL
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>>2764222
who cares?

>>2764132
You are doing reification. The USA literally relies on human trafficking to feed itself. That this doesn't match 1:1 chattel slavery is true yet meaningless.

>>2764131
>Defeated fascism
But the USSR and China allied with Nazi Germany and the US

>>2763801
I'm gonna help the third world by working as a digital nomad and just live airbnbs in broke places like costa rica



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Ernest: "Lex Luthor".
Ray: "Mister Mxyptlk".
Jake: "Two-Face".
Steve: "Clemente Carpe".
Bundy: "General Zod".
Mike: "Tiger Shark".
Ellen: "Sofia Maria Gigante".
Diane: "Harley Quinn".
David: "The Joker".
Jack: "Lord Death Man".
Charles: "The Riddler".

"William Riker": Incarceration of hospital CEO; "To Hunt a Predator", bisexual paleontologist.
"David Xanatos": Reuniting, of IRA and CIA.
"Grand Theft Auto": Three Dimensional Camera, Quakeworld.
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Police Union Protection (Wicca, Sumerian Church):

Ted Kacyznski: Ted Bundy.
Ronald Reagan: The Perfect Storm.
Boris Yeltsin: Columbine.
Margaret Thatcher: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Barry Goldwater: American History X.
Heath Ledger: The OJ Simpson Trial.
John Cusack: The Yellow Ranger.
Rich Kyanka: Boys Don't Cry.
Queen Elizabeth II: Bloom County.
Jean-Claude Duvalier: Slumdog Millionaire.
Francie Chapman: Halo.

Seven Per Film:

Casino Royale:

Carlin Sarkesian, Philip Sarkesian, John Washburne, Keith Velasquez, Marisa Tomasic, Rich Kyanka, Francie Chapman.

Quantum of Solace:

Thomas Jefferson, Millard Fillmore, Jefferson Davis, Donald Trump, Joseph Biden, Wanted, The Dark Knight.

Skyfall:

Patrarca, Haimesy, Sirhan, Rowling, Leicester, Tomasic, Baba.

SPECTRE:
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Psionic Genes of Hopkinton:

Charlebois: Dulles.
Surka: Zaitsev.
Bailey: Pierce.
Giroux: Jefferson.
Campbell: Washington.
Danna: Garfield.
Williams: Coolidge.
Morningstar: Bush.
Gaetano: Biden.
Bolin: Paris.



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Hello,
So, assume for this thread that by "ruling class," we mean the political active faction of the owning class (bourgeoisie) who, for the most part, would rather just sit on their butts and receive stock dividends. The ruling class itself controls the media apparatus, corporation, and politics of the western world.

I bring this up because I'm about to read "DuPont Dynasty: Beyond the Nylon Curtain" a book so damning that the DuPonts attempted to buy every copy of it and now the price for a hardcopy is over $500 (I'm getting mine from the library)

The DuPonts are a family of chemical manufacturing magnates who are largely responsible for the state of Delaware being a tax haven for corporations today. I know they've had a hand in deregulation and stifling reports of asbestos toxicity, but I hope to learn more from the book.
Robert H. Richards IV, a Dupont Heir, was found guilty in 2014 of raping his own daughter and as punishment had to attend rehabilitation (which he never did) and got labelled as a sex offender. He also molested his own son repeatedly and despite his ex-wife's best efforts did not face any legal repercussions for doing so.
In the US, some of the most notable ruling class families are the Astors, Rockefellars, DuPonts, Kennedys, Guggenheims, Rothschilds, Fords, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and Bushes. Not all of them are American but the capitalist class is transnational. There are others. Some, like the Vanderbilts, have largely lost their fortune but due to intermarriage with other families (except notably the Rothschilds who favor inbreeding) they have managed to maintain some power. Anderson Cooper is a vanderbilt to give you an example of how far they have fallen–even the haute bourgeoisie are not immune to proletarianization.
Flagging because I like pancakes.



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How do you rationally organize an economy without some form of pricing to signal consumer need? Socialists never seem to have a good answer, and willfully ignore or distort the documented fact that this problem is why socialism inevitably slides into authoritarianism no matter the intent or ideals of their founders.
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>>2763222
ok. it seems to be working out fine in the states that tried it

>>2763360
Such as?



>socialism inevitably slides into authoritarianism no matter the intent or ideals of their founders.
authoritarianism is good, actually



 

So what do you think are the coolest communist parties that never managed to take power? The Communist parties of India and Italy have pretty interesting culture. I rarely see a lot of theorists mentioned from these parties that never managed to come to power and great man worship is kind of sad to see from the left.
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>>2751872
They were experimentative, that's for sure. Literal cult.

>>2752063
Isn't being a Marxist illegal in Indonesia now?

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Honestly, even if the cnt-fai wasn't in charge after the civil war, a republican victory in spain would've been the greatest leftist win in history

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>>2752099
>I have no idea about India

>>2751872
I actually don't have as much PCP stuff downloaded but you can read it all on bannedthought.net or the website redherald.org. Also this website (not mine btw) has a good archive: https://welshmaoist.blogspot.com/p/marxism-leninism-maoism.html

>>2763792
Unironically a Republican victory in the Spanish Civil War likely means no holocaust. France wouldn't have surrendered the way it did IRL if it could retreat into the South and towards Spain, Britain could have continued fighting the Nazis on land, and the Soviets would have had a fundamental desire to fight the nazis in 1939. Fuck Poland might have agreed to the Entente-Soviet pact preventing molotov rippentrop. Liberated Europe by 1943 without Yankkkee intervention.



 

Fuck this guy. I’m tired of seeing liberals and even “principled” leftists like Jacobin Mag prop him up as the greatest thing to happen to American leftism, like he’s sone kind of modern-Day William Z Foster.

In reality, Mamdani is a total fraud. He’s pandered to Zionists even before taking office. Then after taking office he’s sucked up to Chabad-Lubavitcher which is a satanic racist Jewish supremacist org with ties to the Russian mafia and Zionist entity. Why? He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa. I guess he thinks kosher feelings outweigh Palestinian lives. He hasn’t done anything he’s promised in making NYC a cheaper and easier place to live. And yet delusional leftists still love and support him.

If Mamdani was truly principled he’d make it illegal to be a Zio in NYC. Semd police to monitor all synagogues for promoting Zionism. Track donations to the IOF from Jewish orgs. Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity and all companies that do business with the Zionist entity. Get ICE to deport anyone with Zionist entity citizenship ( I hear there are a lot of them in Brooklyn and Queens). Ban AIPAC and all other pro-Zionist groups. Shut down businesses like Eichler’s which routinely sell Zionist products.

Mamdani ran on the basis of defying the Zionist Lobby so he needs to keep his promises.
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>>2762412
>That's because saying "Free Palestine" would run up against their real purpose, which is to coordinate disparate interests and stabilize the American political system, which they'll do in the case of both pro-Israel donors and Palestine protesters by saying they're not against Israel but just against Netanyahu or something like that.
Which confirms the notion that the only reason the left cares so much about Palestine is due to its use-value.

>>2746538
>He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa
<"Palestinians are neo-nazis, look at these screenshots of twitter posts"
Leftist "callout/cancel culture" has deputized them all as cops who are happy to help Zionist surveillance accomplish their psyops for free to smear the critics of Israel. Actually the DSA gets paid: they gain social capital for their branding as heroic 'anti-fascists' who bravely fight antisemitic tropes
Actual nazis are defined by their material behavior of denying food/water and healthcare. Idealists call Palestinians are nazis for their merely class conscious tweets about being 'goyim'. I imagine DSA radlibs in the 1960s also called The Black Panthers 'nazis' for daring to call themselves n*ggers, "how dare you use the word that your oppressors call you!!! This is an anti-white trope! You will never be invited to our settler anti-Stalinist forum where we have mild disagreements with our fellow PMC Jeffery Epstein libertarian guys about whether 'sex work is work' is woke or not"
>Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity
As the Mayor, his main job is to secure funding for civic projects, but I imagine Zionist alligned finance capitalists have a lot of power with their choices in investing in the Zohran era municipal bond market. Whoever controls bond markets controls your city, try thinking dialectically about the material base of capitalism the next time some radlib talks about "electoralism is good/bad" or "this politician is good/bad"
<Mamdani's administration is facing significant challenges in the municipal bond market. This has resulted in decreased investor confidence and difficulties in selling city debt, which are critical for funding city projects and services.
<Mamdani's proposed fiscal policies, which include extensive spending plans, have raised concerns among investors about the city's financial health.
<There is a notable shift in investor sentiment, with many expressing distrust in the city's ability to manage its debt effectively under Mamdani's leadership.
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>>2761847
>>For your bloodthristy ilk, it's always about killing randos, 4D paranoia, and talking like Evangelical preachers

I'd say leftist insurrectionist types like third-worldists, natlibs, anarchists, maoists, etc. are closer to jihadists in their language and rhetoric. It's always speaking in terms of total enemies, total power, and waging endless struggle by any means against said enemies. There is no language of compromise, passivity, unless convenient and used for confusion of the enemy. The JPA supports Class Jihadists, what exactly are you going to do about it? This is the new norm, so the JPA needs not engage in anything directly, you have arrived too late, and the work of convincing thousands upon thousands of workers & lumpens that the bourgeois must be genocided is already done. We can sleep, and the inevitable will unfold, unrelated to us in any direct way. Yet, like your “New Jakarta” campaign waged against the Islamic voices of the East, those you view as the propaganda wings of a dangerous opposition, you will attempt to eliminate the same type of voices within the western left, that you see as a threat. You will do this because you have lost the ability to control the masses, who have long since been swayed into action right under your noses.


한 달만 더.
그러면 붉은 해가 미국 대지를 비추리라.
반동들의 눈은 멀어지고,
혁명가들의 길은 환히 열리리라.
미제는 무릎 꿇을 것이며,
진리의 등대는 온 세상에 떠오르리라.





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