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the cuban flotilla is being run by the PSL but they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre across multiple branches, so they are using other orgs they run like code pink to do the promotion and optics of the flotilla

the flotilla, much like the PSL and the rest of these astroturfing organizations like Veterans for Peace or Code Pink are funded primarily by this billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham

I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla. The PSL is one of the biggest obstacles for a revolutionary American left to overcome.
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From a realistic perspective, having a grassroots movement of working-class people in America arrive at the conclusion of socialism is simply not a possibility. The American people are too reactionary and too imperialist. It's simple. The average American supports these wars and supports the bloodletting of children in the global South. Ergo, only a secretive, tightly controlled vanguard party, which is funded from without, i.e. not by those same imperialists, can truly bring about revolution. The American people really don't have much of a reason or to care about revolution, nor would they support it. So we have to go through other means. Or at least that's the logic I'm assuming that the PSL supporters believe in.

>>2747991
>they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre
As former PSL, I think you're missing the mark. Those sexual misconduct allegations are 100% true for the record, and the organization is rife with male chauvinism. That being said, that's not why PSL is laying low about their involvement. Internally PSL couldn't care less about the allegations against them. Rather, PSL follows standard Marcyist (quasi-trotskyist) practice in believing that elevating the consciousness of the masses is secondary to "doing something". This means essentially mirroring (and oftentimes taking part in) the liberal nonprofit industrial complex, but it's super duper different because they sometimes admit some of their politics upfront. If you want an example of this in their public writings, look at their book "Socialist Reconstruction", which actively minimizes the question of revolution in favor of openly idealist fanfiction depicting a "United Socialist States of America". It hardly needs to be said that this is tailism and opportunism. It reflects a basic fear of the masses and their propensity to reject Revolutionary Communist politics in the US, and its practical demands. Rather than grapple with why people (particularly whites) in the US embrace fascism and social-fascism over Communism, they prefer to minimize politics in favor of empty "militancy" and economism. Again, quasi-trotskyism.
>I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla.
I don't think it's worth making much of a fuss over if I'm being honest. The flotilla is ultimately a performative gesture of "doing something". I think PSL should be critiqued for minimizing the need for revolution as they campaign to defend a country they consider socialist, a patently absurd practice but not one that's anything new for them, and "content creators" deserve the wall regardless of their involvement with PSL anyways. Nothing about the flotilla or joining it is actually producing any long term changes to how Revolutionary Communists should relate to revisionist and liberal forces in the US. So like, don't waste your breath. Focus on the ongoing struggles that actually matter.
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>>2754758
I've thought the Singham story is the biggest nothingburger. Like there's some rich guy giving you money? My attitude is like meh take the money, what criticism can you make of that which isn't moralistic. What makes me feel more pessimistic, however, is seeing someone like Chris Smalls (in your example) go from being this popular union organizer who came out of nowhere and seemed different and new to becoming another "media leftist" quasi-celebrity. Like there's no workers' political organization as much as a media presence substituting for one and the activism which builds around that skews towards the symbolic and performative side because that's good for media, and maybe that is related to the money going into the media side of things.

Whta even happened with this

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What exactly is the ml cope to justify the chernobyl disaster and the attempted cover up by soviet authorities?








The body was too short or empty.
OK
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Mailuu-Suu was arguably a lot worse but you’ll never hear about it from westerners because Chernobyl happened to le aryan and euro Ukkkrainians and Mailuu-Suu happened in Kyrgyzstan and westoids don’t even know enough about them to even be racist

>>2748356
Do MLs still defend the Soviet Union after Khrushchev? And in any case they wouldn't call the Soviet Union a perfect socialist state anyways so I'm not sure what your point is.

>>2754893
Nobody cares about uranium mining being genocidally dirty though, there are dozens of places like this, even in Japan, US or France

>>2754914
That’s what infuriates me about all the nuclear enthusiasts here, thorium is always two weeks away and waste disposal doesn’t matter

It was based actually because it brought animals back to the area



 

So, it appears that despite the most common assumptions, labour "aristocratic"/well paid workers can and have been notable partecipants in the class struggle, everywhere from Italy to Chile and from the UK to South Africa

> The most important counter-example is the Russian working class in the early 20th century. The backbone of Lenin’s Bolsheviks (something he was most definitely aware of) were the best paid industrial workers in the Russian cities – skilled machinists in the largest factories. Lower paid workers, such as the predominantly female textile workers, were generally either unorganized or apolitical (until the beginnings of the revolution) or supported the reformist Mensheviks.


> German Communism became a mass movement when tens of thousands of well-paid metal workers left the Independent Socialists and joined the Communists in 1921. The French and Italian Communists also became mass parties through the recruitment of thousands of machinists who led the mass strikes of the postwar period. These highly paid workers were also overrepresented in the smaller Communist parties of the United States and Britain.


> In Chile between 1970 and 1973, and Argentina between 1971 and 1974, copper miners and metal workers engaged in industrial struggles and took the lead in mass mobilizations against the military and the right. In Brazil, it was the well-paid metal workers in the suburbs of San Paolo who led mass strikes in the 1970s that created the CUT


> it was the highest paid Black workers in South Africa – in mining, auto, steel – whose struggles in the 1970s created the radical and militant FOSATU trade union confederation.


https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/atc/129.html
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>>2789840
Yes, famously it's the proles who make these decisions.
Literal retard, go back to twitter.com

>>2792336
What happened to the epic bacon labor unions?
I thought the advanced western proletariat had this shit on fleek?

so what you are saying is the privileged well-paid male workers are the ones who are most psyched about top-down revolution and appointing themselves as the new elitist vanguard and taking over the government so they can decide everything for everyone, while the low paid workers and the women and the unemployed cripples and other marginalized superfluous masses are the ones who are into silly utopian ideas like democracy and self-governance and bottom-up anarchist reform.

maybe this is the reason why every communist revolution has failed at doing anything other than recreating the same authoritarian social order only with a different branding.

>>2792484
"women" are not marginalized. But there are marginalized women.

PMC, bourgeois, petit-bourgeois white women that benefitted from colonialism as well are still fucking bourgeois they enjoyed all the fruits of patriarchy, of imperialism. They didn't have their stomachs ripped open and their unborn children crushed underfoot. Nobody is more protected than a whitoid female.

>>2792555
Hello /pol/



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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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My Controversial opinion is that Belarus is the only true democracy on earth.

>>2792068
yeah and most forms of lynching stopped after the civil rights act, the USA wasn't exactly conducting a mass genocide of black americans, the closest thing i can think of in that time period is the tuscogee sterlization experiment but that's about it, nothing like the holocaust existed in america in the 20th century, as hard as it is for you to believe

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION I HAVE: Zootopia was very fun

>>2792802
Zootopia 2 was even better

>>2792803
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION I HAVE: i didn't love Zootopia 2 because it felt too similar to the first one and I watched that like 3 months ago and it was very fresh in my mind. Like a lot of plot points and emotional beats were the same.



 

ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

Manica di degenerati. Non mi aspettavo proprio che dopo un mese d'assenza, il filo cadesse dalla tavola. Vabè, leftypol ormai è l'ombra di quello che era soltanto qualche anno fa, ma c'è un limite a tutto.
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Bump

Come posso “organizzarmi” da immigrato in Italia? Sono nel nord

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Buona festa della liberazione dioporco❤️

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>>2787000
USB o qualche altra organizzazione locale, per i partiti è difficile.
>>2792367
Anche a te!

>>2720262
>nationalism… le bad
t. Marx



 

I'm a normie sorry. I don't know how to make a real post.


Is this boy a reactionary or a revolutionary? Ig you could use MGSV as your argument but I think it would be funnier just to use the picture.
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reactionary. he is an english-speaking white demon. all craKKKers are reactionary

reactionary because he's a member of a PMC operating in angola, but could become revolutionary


>>2792955
im basing it on the game

>>2792985

I feel like in the game shit just kinda happened with Eli and I had to accept it.



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I made this flag for people who aren't Stalin dick suckers but are still okay with millions of people dying/support China. Like me.


"body to short or empty" fuck you!
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>>2792150
Colonialism is progressive because it gives rise to national liberation that assrapes cumskins doebeit

Gooning to tis

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Stole this from juche-anon, not sure what it means, but I saved it because I liked the colors. Relevant to the thread i guess?

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>>2792554

It's Max Stirner as Beavis, someone who is included in Anarcho-Juche's basis for their cults new theory.

>>There is way too much value on victimhood within the American left, which is something that definitely leads to drawing in a weaker coalition of apes. People who aren't weak generally can view themselves as conquerors even in situations stacked against them 1000:1. People who are weak and moralistic feel safer to be in the role of the "victim" than they do "the aggressor or conqueror". The way the American left approaches meekness isn't that far off from the modern Christian obsession with the same concept; being a victim, and turning the other cheek gives you higher moral ground, this is the worldview of the modern left, religious like victimhood - Juche Poster



Which is just building on the same logic as Stirner's quote,

>>One is not worthy to have what one, through weakness, lets be taken from him; one is not worthy of it because one is not capable of it. - Max Stirner

>>2792524
Didn't happen in India lol



 

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>>2792592
They literally are

>>2776071
>>2776799
I think that they play into it for shits and giggles. Larping as the antichrist is just a game for these types.

Shooting incident at correspondents' dinner

You can hear the gunshots in this one.

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>>2776922

>>The story goes that the Juche cult used research chemicals to basically brainwash Houdini, and that's how his entire online persona was created. Or at least, that's how the legend goes. Around a month ago Juche posted a message in Korean saying, "In a month's time, a red sun will begin to rise, and a shining heatwave will soon spread across the nation, blinding the reactionary." That post went up about a month before the warehouse incidents and the attacks on Sam Altman's home.



 

Am I the only one on here with Epstein fatigue?

I hate this shit. I hate how the Epstein debacle has even made leftists throw out solid understandings of class and imperialism. WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT if the ruling class are baby-eating Satan-worshipping Illuminati? THEY'RE STILL EXPLOITING PROLES AND SHOULD BE OPPOSED ON THIS REASON ALONE.

But what really fucking grinds my gears is seeing how tenaciously Democrats and liberals are desperate to turn Epstein into Russiagate 2.0. They sincerely believe they can use the Epstein shit to remove Trump from office and put him in jail for the rest of his life. First of all, as a cis woman who is also a sexual assault survivor, I can tell you that sexual assault is one of the hardest crimes to prove in a court of law. Even if Trump wasn't rich and didn't have the money to get away with his (alleged) crimes, there's still no possible way he'd ever get convicted of a statutory rape that occurred decades ago; there's simply way too much reasonable doubt. But also in this is seeing how garden-variety liberals are really, REALLLLLY pushing the "Epstein was Mossad" allegation, and that he was pimping out underage girls to get blackmail material on world leaders so they would be puppets of Israel. In the case of Trump, they're saying Trump is entirely a puppet of these "Zionist Jewish supremacists" like Epstein, and nearly everything Trump is doing policy-wise is purely in service to Israel. Liberals are even going to far as to call the current Iran War the "Epstein-AIPAC War", not just because Trump launched the war to distract from the Epstein files, but because Netanyahu has all the Epstein blackmail material on Trump and is using this to coerce him into going to war for Israel. This of course completely ignores how American Empire works and things like the US wanting to take control of Iran's oil and all that. But in this, it's very obvious to me that two things are going on here: 1. just like how the Democrats were pushing Russiagate during Trump's first term to "prove" that Trump was a "puppet of Russia" they're now using the Epstein files to "prove" Trump is a puppet of Israel/Zionists, and 2. the Democrats are now going to embrace anti-Zionism in the context of the alleged Epstein-Israel blackmail as a way of portraying themselves as the "peace party" like they did in the 2000s. There's zero doubt in my mind that most of this is motivated by the midterm elections and the Democrats' needing theirPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2767132
T. Epsteinite

Epstein is immortal.

>>2742620
Your whole attitude about many things is factious and I'm not even going to waste time responding to it.

Suffice it to say, the Epstein case is the the greatest boon to leftist causes and if nothing else, will ensure our eventual victory. It broadcast the message to all about how predatory and malicious the elite are, defining Epstein as a prototypal elite.
The only thing getting in the way is anti-semitism, as if Epstein represents all jews. I personally know some jews who would wish to physically rip his head off.
Epstein's case broadcasted the view that the elite are predatory vampires who prey on children and want are ultimately metaphysically evil. His case has completely disrupted the "alt-right" and turned them against Trump. The US government's deferential treatment of his case has completely eroded public trust, contributing to the momentum of a revolutionary situation. He was the best worst thing that could happen to the left.

>>2742620
The central issue with your perspective here is in assuming that there's some kind of mutual exclusivity with regards to the various things you're saying. I'm also not sure why you're placing so much subtle yet apparent emphasis on how Epstein's crimes are all "alleged" despite being a (supposed) SA survivor yourself. This feels very "as a black man" esque. I also have no idea how you've managed to "Reason" that the Epstein issue serves the Democrats, lmao. That is an insanely disconnected take.
Fed vibes emanating from your post, overall, honestly.

>>2767132
Me when I gouge my eyes out, plug my ears, scream "LALAALALAL", and lobotomize my critical thinking faculties
Please hang yourself so that I can facetiously declare that there's no evidence the rope caused you to stop breathing.



 

It looks like the hysteria over Gabriel Rockhill's expose of CIA funded western marxism has hit Jacobin. Since Rockhill's book was published, he's been living rent free in the heads of critical theorists. A bourgeois Indian academic who lives in the US and considers China "sweatshop socialism" has made at least 20 FB posts about Rockhill over the past month. Katerina Kolozova, a "marxist" from FYROM who wrote an article where she said "real marxists" wanted the breakup of Yugoslavia because it was "fake socialism" and Monkeydonians were "real europeans" unlike "Russians and Ukrainians" also went into meltdown mode. The Jacobin article just ties it all together. The author says we need critical theory and western marxism more than we need another Stalin or Mao. But given how impotent western marxists have been to achieve any kind of revolutionary success, it seems that their main issue with Rockhill is that he accurately diagnoses them as hacks. None of the articles, op-eds, or posts about Rockhill's book actually try to refute the facts he presents (backed up by FOIA requests) but just defend bourgeois liberal democracy as superior to actually existing socialism. The Indian admitted to me he didn't even finish Rockhill's book, and one of my irl friends who's been flipping out about it has refused to even read it. If Rockhill is so wrong, why is it no one can actually refute his truth nukes?
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There’s no such thing as marxism, eastern, western, or otherwise

>>2789554
https://ctwgwebsite.github.io/blog/2025/ReactionPt1/

>The Right is a historical concept; its meaning cannot be fixed easily, or perhaps at all

Christ what utter horseshit

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The CIA funded Western Marxism to corrupt communism in the same way that the FBI endorsed O9A shit unto right wingers

>>2789542
it’s good, check it. they actually try to give a fair critique of the book.

Rockhill is just a bad stalinist.

>>2788969
>communism is when there is no money, no state and no class society,
deng xiaoping agrees. if only you would read the scroll



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