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PAUL COCKSHOTT GENERAL
The cyberneticisation will continue. The antizionism will continue. The education will continue. The materialism will continue.
Sorry not sorry, ultroids and idpoloids.
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>>2731392
Have to agree with you that obsessing about transvestites is a massive waste of time.

>>2731767
The Stalin quote, the Marx quote from CotGP, and Cockshott's comment on Stalin are all in agreement THOUGH.

>>2733372
CORRECT


>>2733459
Yes I have seen this before. What is your point?



 

I'm talking about the classical marxist ideology that posited that we need to just accelerate capitalism til it just caves in on itself and then take over after that. not the fascist " lets shoot every poc at the grocery store" accelerationism.


What do these guys even do for tangible praxis?
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accelerationism had its revival moment from 2017-19 that was largely driven through unconditional accelerationism aka U/ACC (Vince Garton, Edmund Berger, Xenogothic, Vast Abrupt, various other blogs) and was less concerned with questions of praxis than with trying to develop on the analyses of the CCRU and early Nick Land for the current evolution of technocapital that had confirmed (and continues to imo) a lot of the predictions of the early theorists who would later be called "accelerationists". one of their main critiques of "left accelerationism" is that it didn't really manage to overcome the transcendental miserablism (http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/archives/008891.html) that started to afflict the left after the collapse of the USSR and that L/ACC has always been an idealistic capitalist realism desire to go back to the good old days of centralized state planning instead of engaging in critique about why it didn't work while also being in denial of China's success in using the market to develop the productive forces within a socialist economy (hence the famous Nick Land quote "Neo-China arrives from the future").

acceleration-ism was always a flawed term because it implied a doing-things-ism ideology that completely misunderstands the nature of capital as a world-historic process that no single person or group of people is in control of. even in the case of China, its use of the market within its economic model (the "bird cage economy") specifically is designed to not try to control capital but to simply contain its antisocial excesses. it isn't that we can simply choose to accelerate the development of technocapital; it is simply the nature of the process for it to accelerate as a positive feedback loop.

>t. one of the U/ACC originalfags who was there for all this


>>2733259
Mark Fisher has a quote somewhere that I haven't been able to find for years where he describes the R/ACC people like late Nick Land and NRx as being essentially the ideologues of capital who are being used by a process that they don't understand except in an idealistic ideological sense and I think this has only become more true today as we've seen the terminal stage of capitalism mutate into a kiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2733273
>a kind of technofeudalism that is just an updated version of fascist corporatism
honestly looking at things i sort of lowk think that corporations are the real revolutionary subject somehow or some shit idk. capitalism when it gets developed enough in the first world seems to want to turn into corporatism every time. we dont even know where corporatism really leads necessary since we have only seen the fascists and nazis annihilate themselves through a war where they underestimated how powerful the ussr was. maybe someone needs to write Das Gesellschaft or something
>which is why Thiel famously said that competition is for losers
that is the fundamental error in accelerationist, pro-capistalist, and marxist discourse. they elide the fact that no capitalist actually wants capitalism. capitalism is not about profit but controlling more production than everyone else. if you are actually competing you hate competition, you just want to dominate everything, and crises are a great way to rock the boat until all of your competition falls away. actually i think there might be a deeper reason why thiel might hate competition due to his influence from girard .. if we look at 'Battling to the End', we see girard point out quite intelligently how capitalist exchange and competition is a sort of sublimated form conflict. the issue is that as exchange intensifies, this leads to increased tensions between nations which inevitably lead to war. if we think about it, imperialism is not simply the conflict between bourgeois nations but also a conflict between bourgeois themselves. if they can even sabotage the national bourgeois's productive forces, then they have gained from the interaction. if the frontier of imperialism is somehow pushed to its limit, we will see western corporations sabotaging each other more directly through violence (as opposed to the many more covert ways they have hitherto attempted mutual sabotage)

>>2733273
Very good post. Not gonna lie, I liked the manifesto of Srnicek and Williams, and I think they had a legit critique of the post-left/The Invisible Committee, but let's face it, their solution was not very different from the kind of things Yaroufakis already talked about, demsoc with more machines. They didn't inherently solve any problems.
Vince Garton and Edmund Berger wrote pretty interesting things even if a lot of it went over my head. As someone who didn't study philosophy in college, that era of shitposting felt exciting as I was seeing people trying to develop new ideas and engage with the present. Nowadays it feels like we have stagnated, r/acc predictably got a relative victory, and we are back to watching the shitshow unfolds with our old ideas. The problem of accelerationism is that it remained pretty descriptive, while a cascade of unforseeable events kinda changed everything, it became harder to keep up ironically.

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>>2733333
also something to add: this is actually the unintuitive absolute genius of the chinese communist party. it is not simply that they are stopping the market from doing things that are anti-social, they are preventing capitalists from trying to annihilate capitalism hence forcing them to continue accelerating the productive forces to continue competing

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>>2733247
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong board. The /dead/ is two blocks down.



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>western diasporat
>privileged son of a bureaucrat
>calls for genocide of pesky workers who want to burn down his mansions
>backed by intelligence agencies
>popular everywhere but Iran
>be Mohammad Marandi
>pic unrelated
I feel dirty having this saved on my device doe……………………….

Flood or soth idkzddd

Marandi is a midwit

Total Nepo baby death



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These people are actually insane. They have no shame.

For years they claimed to be anti-war, anti-establishment, anti-elite. Now they cheer interventions, ignore the Epstein stuff, and defend literally anything Trump does. No standards left at all.

At this point the only thing they consistently care about is culture war slop.

Trump has betrayed them on basically every front that originally made the movement interesting. And instead of noticing, they just double down harder.

As someone closer to the Ron Paul libertarian side of things now, I genuinely feel alienated from this entire crowd of right wingers now. I can't stand these people.

I used to think MAGA was at least a messy populist revolt against the system. Now it just looks like another loyal faction inside it

I want to wake them up, but I can't because they're retarded… so honestly I wish this whole cringe “far right” internet ecosystem would disappear. I want the democrats to humiliate them in the midterms. And yes democrats are garbage too but at least they're going to humiliate them and their disgusting garbage president.

Tl:dr i feel completely alienated from the right. they are total morons. The right is dying, and it deserves to die.
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>>2732180

A substantial portion of the far right is pro-Iran and at the very least friendly to Islam, and has been for a very long time.

>>2733398
>friendly to Islam

Point to make; friendly to Islam as it exists in historically-Islamic regions. They don't like Muslim immigrants into Europe, no, but they wouldn't like those if they were Christians or athiests either.

>>2733398
>>2733403
They all have Jewish derangement syndrome

>I used to think MAGA was at least a messy populist revolt against the system. Now it just looks like another loyal faction inside it
Read linkrel comrade, it will explain it all.
https://files.libcom.org/files/Robert%20O.%20Paxton-The%20Anatomy%20of%20Fascism%20%20-Knopf%20(2004).pdf

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>>2733398
>>2733405
>Ahmadinejad makes out with Jews
<Ghislaine sends out 100 emails about how she dreams of every Arab on Earth being genocided



 

My opinion on him as an American is pretty negative, obviously he owned slaves and that is really bad but I also don’t think that the revolution was anti-imperialist enough, obviously Karl Marx was not even born yet but even if he was there is no way that the founders would incorporate socialism into the constitution. And George Washington immediately started expanding territory westward so he wasn’t an anti-imperialist at all but he just hated taxes.
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>>2732301
>Simón Bolívar
he owned slaves
but he also "became abolitionist"
(really he got btfo for the 5th time, exiled to Haiti out of desparation, and agreed to become """""abolitionist""""" (reformist on the slavery question) in exchange for ships and guns from president Petion)
sorry for the double parenthetical

>>2733348
How late into adulthood did he own slaves? I thought his dad just owned slaves so it it wasn't his fault, was I wrong?

I should not even have to mention how bad the constitution is

>>2733345
So I suppose they were an aggrieved national bourgeois class that raised armies of urban proles and farmers, but what were the results in the short and long term?
For a long while a country of settlers on private holdings bought from the land speculators then eventually the federal government having to step in with the Homestead act to get settlers to populate the latter additions to the country. (much of the public land set aside for this was swiped by the bourgeois anyway)
Not to mention the piecemeal redistribution of plantation land during/after the Civil War.
A country stamped with private property (great property and petty holdings) from the beginning. The petty holdings and the ethos of such satiating an unfortunate amount of people.
With that said, I don't consider myself a sakai deadender, I just think it's the difficult terrain burgers must cut through.
I will add that Haiti suffered a somewhat analogous trend with newly liberated slaves preferring small family production rather than something that to them stank of the old plantation form.

>>2733045
Indigenous societies in North America existed in pre-capitalist tribal formations. Land was often held collectively by kin groups or tribes, but this does not equal socialism. The collective landholding came from communal or clan property relations typical of early societies, not from the abolition of capitalist private property. Socialism in Marxist theory refers to a post-capitalist mode of production emerging from the contradictions of capitalism.



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Osama really fucking did it. He baited the empire into destroying itself with pointless forever wars. Osama destroyed The Great Satan. and if 9/11 really was Mossad, then long live the butcher Israel. But I think it was Osama. Thank you, Osama. Thank you for making the treatlerites and zionists fall on their swords, for our sake… God bless you Osama Bin Laden. I'll never forget you! See you space cowboy…

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS DO RIGHT THINGS
I NEVER WANTED TO BE THE KING
I SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR

>>2733335
>Osama really fucking did it. He baited the empire into destroying itself with pointless forever wars. Osama destroyed The Great Satan.
I was about to say that this isn't even bait around here
>and if 9/11 really was Mossad, then long live the butcher Israel.
but then you dropped the real bait
>But I think it was Osama.
oh my god even worse



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I swear by (imaginary) God, I can’t stand trotskyites. Becoming an Empire leads only to capitalism. Endless war is just war, not revolution. (Image unrelated)

i don’t HATE them. I’m just tired of them. The CPUSA is just full of old Trotskyites. I don’t like the focus on war-based internationalism.



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I make a living off daytrading stocks, I'm not a millionaire but I consider myself comfortable, I enjoy what I do and like the freedom it brings me but even then I understand it's parasitical and doesn't really provide any value to society, I'm not building anything or providing any service people need, I'm just extracting value by picking the right moves at the right time.

what will happen to people like me if the US empire falls? from what I understand the financial world is pure bullshit that syphons money from real industries through exploitation, tech, stocks, crypto, AI, it all depends on the ability of the empire to exploit the third world.

what happens when the exploitation stops and the world starts running on a real economy based on labour instead of speculation? do construcion workers get huge raises and people like me end up in the streets? can traders and speculators be useful in socialism?
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>>2730102
I'm taking a look at this place and it reads like every single post in here is an AI generated ad for something lol

Maybe it's because I'm financially illiterate

>>2732469
There is a lot of ai crap but its also because a lot of the people there genuinely type like that. Theres a certain type of autist that gets attached to these stocks.
Just determine which is good info and bad info by doubling checking what they say

Just put $1000 in the dip.

>but even then I understand it's parasitical and doesn't really provide any value to society, I'm not building anything or providing any service people need, I'm just extracting value by picking the right moves at the right time.
Anyone who screeched at this is a utopian leftcom.

Scamming and theft can be valid ways to obtain resources which make the revolution possible. Steal food, anarchist! Rob a bank, stalinist! Collect social support from your armchair, left-com! And if these methods allow you more time than a 9:00-5:00+ work day, you're ahead already.

>>2733031
you are saying I can be a maoist daytrader?



 

People ally with reactionaries due to circumstances.
Anarchists are not immune to this.
The Bolsheviks were not immune to this
The CCP is not immune to this.
Any present-day movement which doesn't engage with liberals and other class enemies is infantile purism, comparable with utopian socialism.

Opportunistic unprincipled arguments like this, such as echoing "Ukrainians are Nazis" due to the fascist Azov Battalion, expose our movement's general failure to educate self-identitying socialists and provide easy counter-argument from any liberals who understand basic concepts like mutual enemies.

>>2718112
>People ally with reactionaries due to circumstances
AI could never be as soulless and anti-historical as a liberal lol
>infantile purism
You mean the commodity which your beloved Jeffrey Epstein allies traffic at their "World Trade Center"
>expose our movement's
You choose to use logic and rationality to be allies with the pedophile cabal of finance imperialism, we are not the same

>echoing "Ukrainians are Nazis" due to the fascist Azov Battalion,

holocaust denial thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Hunka_scandal
<On 22 September 2023, Yaroslav Hunka, a Ukrainian Canadian who fought in the SS Division Galicia of the military wing of the Nazi Party, the Waffen-SS, was invited to the House of Commons of Canada to be recognized by Speaker Anthony Rota, the Member of Parliament for Hunka's district. Hunka received two standing ovations from all house members, including Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, other party leaders, and visiting Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
<Hunka's membership in the Waffen-SS was reported initially by The Forward, which quoted a tweet by academic Ivan Katchanovski. The story was picked up by the Canadian media, receiving international attention.
<The incident, seen as a political blunder and a scandal, such that it drew comparisons to the most embarrassing moments in Canada's history, was leveraged by the Russian establishment to further its justifications for waging war in Ukraine, which had been started under a pretext of "denazification", among other stated reasons. Rota resigned as speaker five days later, and the House unanimously adopted a motion to condemn Nazism and withdraw its recognition of Hunka. Prime Minister Trudeau and Canadian government officials apologized to the worldwide Jewish community. The handling of suspected World War II war criminals in Canada became a renewed matter of public interest.

no this is actually just opportunism really

>you don't understand, we had to kill the jewish bolsheviks

>>2732709
>All jews are anti-Soviet
Grigory Romanov

you dont understand OP the current online political discourse meta is just reapolitik for me and not for thee



 

Not ‘a litre of oil’ to pass Strait of Hormuz, expect $200 price tag: Iran
A spokesperson for the IRGC’s Khatam al-Anbiya Headquarters said on Wednesday that any vessel linked to the United States and Israel or their allies “will be considered a legitimate target”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/11/irans-irgc-says-not-one-litre-of-oil-will-get-through-strait-of-hormuz
https://archive.ph/7mX1o

Confusion grows over reported 'airborne landings' in Iraq's Anbar desert
Reports suggest that there were two separate landings: one in the Nukhayb Desert in Anbar Province and another in the desert of Samawah Province. After US forces denied involvement following Baghdad's complaint, suspicion has shifted more toward Israel. Several theories have come up about the operation's purpose. Some sources think intelligence agents may have been sent in, while others believe it could have been an assassination unit with high-performance motorcycles. Analysts also suggest Islamic State operatives might have been deployed to cause confusion and disrupt security.
https://www.newarab.com/news/mystery-surrounds-airborne-landing-operations-iraqi-desert

Israel to build base in Somaliland to target Houthis, says report
Somaliland will allow Israel to gather intelligence on and conduct operations against the Houthis, two Somaliland officials speaking on condition of anonymity told Bloomberg. Israel has laid the groundwork for a possible base in the region: in June, a group of Israeli security officials visited the Somaliland coastline, people familiar with the matter said. There they surveyed the beaches, in search of a potential site for a base or installation to fight the Houthi movement, which is officially known as Ansar Allah.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-build-base-somaliland-target-houthis-says-report

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US consumer prices likely increased in February ahead of Iran conflict
"The recent 15% move alone suggests a 0.15-0.30 percentage point lift to headline inflation depending on how the conflict evolves," said Andy Schneider, a senior U.S. ‌economist at ⁠BNP Paribas Securities. Food prices likely maintained a moderate pace of increase, though Schneider added "a sustained oil price shock would raise fertilizer and transportation costs that could push food inflation higher later in the year."
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-consumer-prices-likely-increased-february-ahead-iran-conflict-2026-03-11/

Coalition Demands Schumer, Jeffries Step Down Over Failure to Fight ‘War-Crazed’ Trump
The coalition, which includes Peace Action and RootsAction, launched a petition declaring that it is “time for congressional Democrats to replace Schumer and Jeffries with leaders who are willing and able to challenge the runaway militarism that has dragged our country into launching yet another insanely destructive war,” this time against Iran.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/schumer-jeffries-step-down-iran

US lawmakers advance bill to lower housing prices
The bill, which has drawn broad support from industry groups, would overhaul ‌regulations to make it faster and cheaper to build new housing. It would also modernize rules for factory-built housing and ban large investment groups from buying more single-family homes, a measure backed by President Donald Trump.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-lawmakers-advance-bill-lower-housing-prices-2026-03-11/

Google founder backs both Republican and Democrat in California governor’s race while ex-CEO fights billionaire tax
New campaign filings also reveal that Google co-founder Sergey Brin has donated to both Republican and Democratic candidates for the California governor’s seat, playing both sides of the aisle. Brin contributed $39,200 last week to RPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

' Yanar Mohammed, A Flame That Will Never Die, and the Women's Revolution Continues
With fierce anger burning in our hearts and an unbreakable resolve, we mourn the assassination of the courageous feminist and leftist leader and fighter Yanar Mohammed, president of the Organization of Women's Freedom in Iraq, who was struck down by the hand of darkness in Baghdad on the morning of March 2, 2026 — as though they believed a bullet could extinguish the fire of feminist struggle and liberation. Two gunmen on motorcycles opened fire on her in front of her residence in the Al-Shaab district, in a crime whose perpetrators we all know. The assassination of Yanar is a fully premeditated political crime targeting the feminist and leftist movements and every voice demanding justice and equality. It is a declaration of war against free women and against all who refuse to submit to the power of repression, sectarianism, and savage patriarchy.
https://libcom.org/article/yanar-mohammed-flame-will-never-die-and-womens-revolution-continues

Workers Are Leaving the Trump Coalition
Many commentators have repeatedly sounded the alarm about declining working-class support for the Democratic Party in 2024, particularly among non-white working-class voters. Those concerns remain real and are part of a decades-long dealignment of working-class voters from the party once seen as their natural home. But Donald Trump’s erratic, vindictive, and economically damaging first year in office has already given many of those same voters buyer’s remorse. Trump’s 2024 victory was built on a narrative of building a multiracial working-class coalition — particularly by attracting new black and Latino working-class voters — united by frustration with the Biden administration’s perceived failures on inflation, the cost of living, and immigration. That narrative is already falling apart. A recent survey we conducted of 1,940 2024 Trump voters (oversampling working-class black and Latino voters) shows the 2024 Republican coalition fracturing: 20.1 percent of Trump voters — more than one in five — are not currently planning to vote Republican in 2028. We define these “waverers” as Trump 2024 voters who (at least right now) do not plan to vote Republican in 2028. And they are dispPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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