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Which socialist countries could a NEET move to join the working class?

<As of 2023, approximately 21.7% of young people worldwide, aged 15 to 35, are classified as NEET, meaning they are not in education, employment, or training. This statistic highlights a significant global issue regarding youth engagement in productive activities.
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>>2706918
Neets and elites. That rhymes

>>2705701
>How do NEETs not experience an existential dread
I do, but I also did when I was non-NEET, I just have better quality sleep now.

>>2660145
Nepal?

>>2705701
the vast majority of "neets" are incapacitated by serious mental health issues exacerbated by capitalism but fuck empathy because a random unemployed shartmerican on pol called me a wagecuck once amirite

I hate wagies so much.



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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2752017
Based, when everyone's a transhumanist there will be no transphobia.
>>2752683
You're just a gooner, that's why.

>>2752017
controversial, retarded and has no basis in reality
>>2752177
how the hell do we define "kids"? in most countries 16 year olds are able and often quite willing to have sex, but this would likely be too much for a guy like you, so you'd have to restrict everyone so a few could benefit

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Lightpoles, billboards, and larger illuminated signs should be torn down so that the population can have a natural view of the stars in their daily lives.


>>2703978
None of these takes are controversial. They are the most maistream normie takes imaginable.

My opinions:
  1. Leftists are just turbo liberals and leftist theory doesn't help us solve the problems of capitalism

  2. Chudism is a logical outcome of industrial capitalism, and chudism is also contaminating the left (which you can see on leftypol)

  3. Heidegger was better than Marx and fundamental ontology is better than diamat woo woo, but his practical philoosophy is dogshit. We need to use Heidegger to help ground Marx and patch over his crappy ontology.

  4. Islamists are better than 99% of leftists and represent a genuine but very flawed revolutionary movement which failed in the 2000s because it took the knee in the face of neolib dogshit



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Previous thread: >>2381106

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
https://archive.is/ga3OG
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>>2746264
bumping for an answer to this. i gots to know.

What countries (In EU) are good to be in currently, for organising and political education? (global north, imperial countries and skkkandinavian countries don't count). Not being opportunist just seeking to escape the hellhole that is the global north.

Materialist explanation for the prospect of honest days work being a horryfying one?

>>2750798
Considering you excepted all the good ones, bone whatsoever

>>2750798
Belgium



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Why do marxists and leftist never criticize finance capitalism and the banks and the federal reserve with the same fervor as “sound money” libertarians?

Imho if you really want to radicalize people start talking about fractional reserve banking and inflation, not some amorphous “bourgeoisie”
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>>2751051
Do you perhaps think that the scientific socialist position has anything to do with charlatan speculators in the financial market pretending to be "rebels"? Fictitious capital is speculative and unproductive, therefore an economy centered on the dominance of financial capital will lead to deindustrialization, indebtedness that will lead bourgeois states to constantly privatize, cannibalizing the economy and creating more austerity that intensifies the exploitation of workers along with precariousness, where the state's revenue will eventually fall, causing it to incur debt with debt securities that are speculated on in the financial market, demanding more austerity, creating a malicious vicious circle transferring the costs to the workers.

With all this, the question arises of a country's financial and economic sovereignty to seize the means of production to produce according to the needs of the population and their labor in a socialist state that will socialize the economy, abolishing private property, anarchy of production, and social classes. This eventually ends the function of money that existed in capitalism to profit from the sale of goods in the market, exploiting workers to serve the accumulation of capital. In a socialist society, if there is a currency, it will function for accounting and resource allocation in economic planning. Therefore, the answer to the question of the problems of capitalism lies in the abolition of money, which some communists can answer for you.

Remember that before the socialist economy there is the socialization of the economy in the dictatorship of the proletariat, which will exist before and during the socialist economy until full communism, as global hegemony, resolves the contradictions of society for the withering away of the state. This is why, to facilitate expropriations and the abolition of private property, as all successful communist revolutions have done—what the Paris Commune failed to do, and what Marx criticized—the need to seize or establish a national bank in their country, this bank must be public and organized by the workers in a popular workers' council without speculators, economists, bankers, "apolitical" technocrats, or representatives of the bourgeoisie, in order to control the effects of inflation so as not to affect workers' wages, which must be adjusted according tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2752281
>nobody ever ever ever ever did privatization, austerity, labor discipline, anti-unionism, and class collaborationism before 1970s
oh no, it's retarded

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>>2751064
Reported

>>2751064
You uyghurs are always retarded illiterates. There are literally texts Marx wrote that directly attacked and named the Rothschilds.



 

The law of value says that a society with money is bogreosie therefore not socialism. Consequently, the USSR was not socialist.
Why do ML(oosers) say the opposite ? Is it because they haven't read Marx ?
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>>2752537
China has better treats than America it's a miracle they're not all 500 pound hambeasts.

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>>2752472
>The USSR was not socialist.
>Why do ML(oosers) say the opposite ?

You haven't heard of former high ranking central committee member Richard Kosolapov. He didn't think the USSR was socialist.

>>2752775
it's because they had socialist revolution before industrializing. every country that has socialist revolution before industrializing builds outdoor gyms n shit

>>2752781
thats because they were striving towards socialism

>>2752528
well primarily because when capitalists have a lover's spat the working classes get conscripted to die doe



 

What is happening sociologically when radlib Leftoids in circles stuffed with permagrads endlessly go on about muh 'Strasserism' or 'NazBols'? Here's an answer that may be a bitter pill for some of you, because the Left rarely likes to use its own tools of class analyses on itself

https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/on-strasserism-and-the-decay-of-the-left/
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>>2749745
scp thread

>>2749973
Correct take

>>2750008
Wow what a socialist

>>2752317
and where'd this lead?

>>2750008
strasser crawled so pol pot could walk with a limp



 

Am I the only one on here with Epstein fatigue?

I hate this shit. I hate how the Epstein debacle has even made leftists throw out solid understandings of class and imperialism. WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT if the ruling class are baby-eating Satan-worshipping Illuminati? THEY'RE STILL EXPLOITING PROLES AND SHOULD BE OPPOSED ON THIS REASON ALONE.

But what really fucking grinds my gears is seeing how tenaciously Democrats and liberals are desperate to turn Epstein into Russiagate 2.0. They sincerely believe they can use the Epstein shit to remove Trump from office and put him in jail for the rest of his life. First of all, as a cis woman who is also a sexual assault survivor, I can tell you that sexual assault is one of the hardest crimes to prove in a court of law. Even if Trump wasn't rich and didn't have the money to get away with his (alleged) crimes, there's still no possible way he'd ever get convicted of a statutory rape that occurred decades ago; there's simply way too much reasonable doubt. But also in this is seeing how garden-variety liberals are really, REALLLLLY pushing the "Epstein was Mossad" allegation, and that he was pimping out underage girls to get blackmail material on world leaders so they would be puppets of Israel. In the case of Trump, they're saying Trump is entirely a puppet of these "Zionist Jewish supremacists" like Epstein, and nearly everything Trump is doing policy-wise is purely in service to Israel. Liberals are even going to far as to call the current Iran War the "Epstein-AIPAC War", not just because Trump launched the war to distract from the Epstein files, but because Netanyahu has all the Epstein blackmail material on Trump and is using this to coerce him into going to war for Israel. This of course completely ignores how American Empire works and things like the US wanting to take control of Iran's oil and all that. But in this, it's very obvious to me that two things are going on here: 1. just like how the Democrats were pushing Russiagate during Trump's first term to "prove" that Trump was a "puppet of Russia" they're now using the Epstein files to "prove" Trump is a puppet of Israel/Zionists, and 2. the Democrats are now going to embrace anti-Zionism in the context of the alleged Epstein-Israel blackmail as a way of portraying themselves as the "peace party" like they did in the 2000s. There's zero doubt in my mind that most of this is motivated by the midterm elections and the Democrats' needing theirPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>Am I the only one on here with Epstein fatigue?
Nope. For me its funny on so many levels that americans voted a child rapist not once but twice as their president. Flood.

>>2742620
It's actually pretty funny how liberals went from:
>"shut up about Palestine and focus on the ELECTION, we need to BEAT TRUMP and VOTE HARRIS"

To:
>"free Palestine, Palestine is LITERALLY Ukraine, Trump is a puppet of both Israel and Russia, Jewish supremacists are identical to Evangelicals!"

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>>2749813
Liberals will be pro-Israel again as soon as Trump turns against Bibi.




 

ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

Manica di degenerati. Non mi aspettavo proprio che dopo un mese d'assenza, il filo cadesse dalla tavola. Vabè, leftypol ormai è l'ombra di quello che era soltanto qualche anno fa, ma c'è un limite a tutto.
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Questa è la prima sconfitta netta per il governo melonaro. Le altre volte c'era sempre una scusa - "erano solo regionali/comunali" o cose del genere. Stavolta c'è stato un voto nazionale, secco, o una cosa o l'altra.
Non mi interessa la latrina dei commenti in televisione, ma non ho dubbi che la compagine governativa alzerà il volume del piagnisteo: se "I GIUDICI NUN ME FANNO GOVERNÀÀÀÀÀ!!! LI MORTACCI LORO!!!" è stato il grido di battaglia in questa campagna referendaria, allora c'è da prendere atto che nel prossimo anno e mezzo - se c'arriva… - nun la faranno governà proprio… Che senso ha, allora, restare aggrappata alla poltrona? Dimissioni, scioglimento immediato delle camere e nuove elezioni entro la fine di maggio. Del resto è un calendario e un periodo dell'anno perfettamente ragionevole per farlo. Indubbiamente meglio delle ultime elezioni legislative a settembre - campagna elettorale in piena estate e rincorsa ancora più raffazzonata del solito per approvare la legge di bilancio in tempo subito dopo.
Intendiamoci: un ipotetico "campo largo" al governo sarebbe l'ennesima iattura. E quei fenomeni sono perfettamente capaci di buttare al vento la possibilità di riprendere l'iniziativa e passare all'attacco. Intanto, non vedo come il governo melonaro possa ancora vantare credito politico per portare avanti l'altro suo piatto forte: er premierato all'amatriciana. Un pastrocchio che solo per quanto è contorto merita di essere bocciato senza starci a sprecare neanche due minuti ad approfondirne i dettagli. E teniamo anche conto che anche con una maggioranza parlamentare ampia e confortevole, c'hanno messo tre anni per concludere l'iter parlamentare di questa fallita riforma del CSM. In teoria, se volessero, potrebbe andare di corsa e realisticamente avere le due approvazioni entro la fine di quest'anno, ma poi il referendum ci sarebbe inevitabilmente nel 2027, quando comunque, o in primavera o in autunno, la legislatura finirà e ci saranno nuove elezioni. Siamo in mano a manigoldi, incapaci e svitati e, anche se la prossima maggioranza sarà di "colore" diverso, la situazione purtroppo non cambierà.

Italian leftist cinema mogs hard

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>>2752006
L'hanno presa bene.

>Dimissioni, scioglimento immediato delle camere e nuove elezioni entro la fine di maggio. Del resto è un calendario e un periodo dell'anno perfettamente ragionevole per farlo. Indubbiamente meglio delle ultime elezioni legislative a settembre - campagna elettorale in piena estate e rincorsa ancora più raffazzonata del solito per approvare la legge di bilancio in tempo subito dopo.

Il rischio è GROSSO. Siamo in un periodo che richiede stabilità e un eventuale crisi di governo, ora come ora, premierebbe l'opposizione. Probabilmente meglio aspettare la fine della legislatura o quando si saranno comunque calmate le acque. Farlo ora con i prezzi in salita e la guerra all'orizzonte è un rischio troppo grossi per quelli lì.

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Fcking moffinists



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Imagine my shock when I learned that US demographic losses from Great Depression were almost as high as what USSR had suffered from WW2 or WW1. It was like 10 times worse than Soviets' Holodomor, as it turns out. Simply terrifying what kind of horrors US censorship has hidden from us
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>>2750215
>leftist is when you idpol

>>2706641
>>2706689
>US demographic losses from Great Depression were almost as high as what USSR had suffered from WW2 or WW1
>It was like 10 times worse than Soviets' Holodomor
Uh-huh, yeah, good, OK
And how does that follow from the source you've posted?

It only says this
>По США имеется только один «провал» для возрастов от 15 до 34 лет, в котором «дно» приходится на возраста 20— 29 лет.
<As for the United States, there is only one "hole" [in the graph] - adults of the age from 15 to 34 years and the "bottom" of the hole is the age of 20-29 years

>Лица 15— 34 лет родились в 1925—44 гг., в том числе лица 20— 29 лет — в 1930—39 гг. Н а уменьшении численности родившихся в США в эти годы сказался общий кризис капиталистической системы и происходившие в условиях его экономические кризисы (особенно значительные в 1919—21 гг., 1929— 33 гг. и в 1937— 38 гг.).Кризисы 1929— 33 гг. и 1937— 38 гг. сказались на возрастной структуре населения США так же значительно,как на возрастной структуре Советского Союза — первая и вторая мировые войны.

<The persons aged 15–34 were born in 1925–44, persons aged 20–29 in 1930–39. The decrease in the number of people born in the USA during these years was caused by the general crisis of the capitalist system and the economic crises that occurred under its conditions (especially significant were the crises of 1919–21, 1929–33, and 1937–38). The crises of 1929–33 and 1937–38 affected the age structure of the US population as much as the First and Second World Wars affected the age structure of the Soviet Union.

It doesn't say anything about the casualties of the crisis, it just says the birth rates were lower. Learn to read.

>>2752612
leftypol cant read

>>2752612
Perhaps OP meant less people being born as demographic losses because that's basically the same logic western historians would apply to the soviets

>>2747679
ask deepseek to translate it. you can give deepseek PDFs



 

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>>2707019
I guess you can check for the presence of a signal, it likely means something

>>2703819
is there even anything interesting from it?

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Even without breaking encryption, you can monitor signal traffic, patterns, volume, timing to anticipate activity, identify surges before they materialize. For those willing to operate at a more aggressive level, there are other vectors. A family member who can be persuaded to join the group who uses the radio channel you want the encryption key for. Or, if you happen to uncover evidence that a keyholder has been unfaithful to their spouse, you may find that person suddenly very eager to provide the encryption key via email. Compromise is a currency that spends regardless of ideology, profession or power. The right private investigator does not ask why you need to know the information in detail. There's many who operate on You pay, I deliver. Infidelity is a vulnerability that crosses all lines, and there are professionals who make it their business to find it, and document it with ease, and they do it for anyone willing to write the check. You just need to know where to look. The pitch to a private investigator is straightforward - "I am a friend of hers. I do not trust her husband. He has a dangerous job, let us say he occupies a position that gives him policing leverage, and she is too afraid to look into him herself. I am doing this for her. It needs to stay quiet; it is a high‑risk subject." PIs hear variations on this constantly. They rarely ask deeper questions. It will help if you have an older straight laced female act as a proxy to interact with the PI.

If the target is not actively cheating, there are ways to accelerate the situation if you are unhinged and skilled enough. Locate escorts who work near the bars he frequents. Befriend them. Establish a regular presence. Study his routines, his interests, his patterns. Find an escort who can mirror those interests, let chance encounters become something more, like the scene in cable guy. Let the plot unfold. Then the private investigator gathers the evidence. None of this is beyond reach for someone with moderate resources and social savvy. It is simply another form of reconnaissance, one that turns the subject's own vulnerabilities into a lever for power.

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It depends who's comms you gain access to. If you have full access you can hear whatever group is using it, like this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpI4C7bvdGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37jZ-8s14VE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmK_l1nc2A4


As E-40 said, "Ears to the scanner, yup!". If the police scanners offer useful, or interesting info at times, I'm sure the groups that use higher levels of encryption definitely get juicy at times. There's a lot going on right now, we are monitoring the situation in multiple cities, give a listen. Youtube removes these at times, but software will bot it right back up with another account.

This site is usually decent if you dont have your own software or hardware -

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/

>>2752754

The best part of the "anarchist running the communications center" story is what the feds carried out when they raided his home. Beyond the stacks of zines, they carefully removed a massive circle‑A poster and then, right beside it, a Stalin tapestry. Talk about highly cultured!



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