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Recent news:
SDF rejects the agreement and vows that they'd fight.
Prison break in Shaddad, freeing ~1000 ISIS veterans.
Aqtan prison (which houses ISIS members) north of Raqqa gets besieged.
Clashes in Kobani & Hasakah countrysides.
Breach in Al-Hol camp, which is now mostly emptied.
New agreement signed by both the STG & SDF.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
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>>2683457 (me)
Also the SDF didn't keep tens of thousands of arab civilians in sex-segregated concentration camps for the better part of a decade with no legal justification. At the behest of NATO.

They were dangerous ISIS prisoners of war, foreigners, awaiting transportation to third countries and the locals love the Kurdish new government and would never join ISIS to get rid of their occupation new administration.

throwback to the time in and around May 2024 when the media talked about HTS as if it was a second Assad regime, using torture prisons, eliminating political rivals, authoritarian governing etc and made it seem like the Northwest was about to fall into a civil war of its own.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syria-hts-security-campaign-northwest-abuses-protests
https://www.dw.com/de/kampf-f%C3%BCr-freiheit-aufstand-gegen-die-islamisten-in-idlib/a-69164626
I am 110% sure the article that I remembered (but didn't find) even wrote something like that the images on Idlib's strets were similar to what happened before the Syrian civil war against Assad started more than a decade ago, and it's so weird because at the time back in May, things were looking like Assad had for the most part won the civil war, re-attending the Arab league, European leaders considering cooperation with Syria again just to deport migrants etc etc.
It's honestly so weird, how the media echo'd this but then the second the December offensive started and went surprisingly better than expected, suddenly the sentiment completely changed and suddenly he went from authoritarian islamist to neoliberal savior with a rough past.

I can only hope that Syria will stay united and thrive and I think a lot of Syrians give Jolani some starting sympathy just for the fact that he's been able to almost full reconquer all of Syria. But if his governing style won't be a Assad 2.0 is yet to be seen, and if his previous governing of Idlib is anything to be taken into account for, then things aren't looking great. Honestly, the second the election starts and he gets less than 50% of the vote share, that's when the civil war restarts again, since the drafted constitution will give him 1/3 of the parliament seats in the first election, UNELECTED. and then he would still have an absolute majority despite losing the election.

>>2683681
>I am 110% sure the article that I remembered (but didn't find) even wrote something like that the images on Idlib's strets were similar to what happened before the Syrian civil war against Assad started more than a decade ago,
Try New Arab, I think I remember them doing a lot of stories on Idlib.

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YPJ Command pays a visit to the Governor of Hesekê
The Women's Defense Units (YPJ) Command visited the Governor of Hesekê, Nûredîn Îsa Ehmed, at his office in the city. During the visit, the YPJ Command congratulated Governor Ehmed on his appointment.

The visit included YPJ General Command members Rohilat Efrîn and Viyan Adar, YPJ Spokesperson Rûksan Mihemed, and a group of YPJ fighters.

During the meeting, the YPJ Command stated that Hesekê Governor Nûredîn Îsa Ehmed would play an important role in providing services to the people of the region, promoting security and stability, and strengthening civil peace.

Isa Ahmed thanked the YPJ delegation for their visit and emphasized the importance of cooperation and coordination between institutions and relevant parties in strengthening stability and security.

Transitional government forces bombed Suweida.
The Suwayda National Defense Forces announced in a statement that groups affiliated with the Interim Government of Damascus targeted the western part of the city with four mortar rounds.

The statement noted that the groups were randomly shelling civilian areas, adding, "These attacks are a dangerous violation that endangers the lives and safety of civilians."

The Suwayda National Defense Forces recently announced that, as part of their mission to protect civilians and prevent chaos, they will intervene at the sources of the attacks.

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Strikes and protests are growing in Idlib.
A teachers' strike in Jisr al-Shiqour district of Idlib province in northern Syria has expanded to include 113 schools. The teachers, demanding a salary increase to reflect rising living costs, warned that failure to meet their demands could severely disrupt the education process.

On the other hand, the local population also organized mass protests against the lack of basic services such as electricity, water, and roads. The demonstrators called on the interim government in Damascus to fulfill its responsibilities, demanding that the problems be resolved and that those responsible be held accountable.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) has warned that the ongoing strikes and protests could negatively impact the right to education of thousands of children, and that the current situation could further deepen social problems.

The people of Rojava have organized themselves to defend the achievements of the revolution.
The people of Rojava are organizing themselves, within the framework of the general mobilization announced on January 18, with the aim of protecting the gains of the revolution in Cizre and Kobanê..

In response to the general mobilization, various sections of Rojava society, organizations, institutions, and individuals have formed defense committees and battalions in neighborhoods, villages, towns, and cities in order to organize themselves according to the demands of the current phase..

The people of Rojava welcomed the refugees from Shahba and Afrin who lived in the city of Tabqa, as well as the refugees from Tabqa, Raqqa, Shaddad and Deir ez-Zor who were forced to flee due to the attacks of the Syrian Interim Government groups. Schools, mosques, institutions and public halls were prepared as shelters for the refugees..

The number of displaced people in the Cizre region has reached nearly 350,000 people and in the city of Kobanê it has exceeded 200,000 people..
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I'm looking for some really lame super pragmatic minimal market socialism for the sake of giving imagination-gap terminally reform-brained normies a concrete thing they can work with.

Specifically I was looking for something which while maintaining distributed capital markets also gets rid of rewards for nonproductive actors. I didn't exactly find this, but I did find Roerner's Equal Shares proposal this follows:

>Every adult citizen would receive from the state treasury an equal endowment of coupons, that can be used only to purchase shares of mutual funds. Only coupons can be used to purchase shares of mutual funds, not money. Only mutual funds can purchase shares of public firms, using coupons. Prices of corporate shares and mutual funds are, hence, denominated in coupons; they will oscillate depending on the supply and demand for shares. Citizens are free to sell their mutual-fund shares for coupons, and to reinvest the coupons in other mutual funds. Finally, firms may exchange coupons with the state treasury for investment funds, and may purchase coupons from the treasury with money. This is the only point at which coupons exchange for money. These investment funds play the role of equity in the firm. (p. 20)


>A share of a firm entitles the owning mutual fund to a share of the firm's profits, and a share of a mutual fund entitles the owning citizen to a share of the mutual fund's revenues. When a citizen dies, his mutual fund shares must be sold and the coupon revenues are returned to the state treasury. The treasury in turn issues coupon endowments to citizens reaching the age of majority. (p. 20)


Anyway this proposal seemed to get reasonably close to what I was "looking for". I'm still not sure however if it's productive to advertise this sort of thing to others. Is it a useful strategy to build these sort of concrete programs. Further about this plan in particular is it really what anyone is after? Is there an effective even more reform minded solution that still removes rewards for unproductive actors - or at least as this one does makes such rewards equal?
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Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. The main measures, emerging as the necessary result of existing relations, are the following:

(i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.

(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.

(iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.

(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.

(v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

(vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers.

(vii) Increase in the number of national factories, workshops, railroads, ships; bringing new lands into cultivation and improvement of land already under cultivation – all in proportion to the growth of the capital and labor force at the disposal of the nation.
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1.Changes in organic composition of capital means that manufacturing share of labour will no longer absorb a huge amount of workers. You can't just deploy workers in a factory anymore, with how complicated and automated shit are nowadays. However I can see on-demand labour deployment in agriculture or services, India and China already do this, however this means that difference between productive capital and rent extraction becomes nul since there are no moe productive, industrial capital.
2.>state owned enterprises competing with private enterprise at low surplus margins and with low managerial salaries
This is my second biggest problem. Everything you said here, from implementation of labour vouchers to universal compulsory education to concentration of capital required an enormous, massive and powerful managerial bureaucracy, which you will need to pay and train significantly more than the average proles. You want to have your cake and eat it too; a state that needs massive managerial bureaucracy but also one without a nomenklatura. This is not gonna happen, because bureaucratic work by its nature is specialized.
3. >Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.
>cap hours allowed to be worked per week and implement more robust welfare
My third biggest problem. Having full employment will result in a massive demand increase. Since we control capital we can prevent inflationary pressure on the currency equivalent but we will still be left with a skyrocketing demand for consumer and industrial goods. Unless you want to face goods shortage you have to crank up working hours instead of reducing them. Again a case of having your cake and eat it too.
However, this is already a step in the right direction. We need labour creation and mobilization program. And we need a massive, well paid bureaucracy to do that. The rest of your platform just need some moderation

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>>2639546
Dengism

>>2652538
Nah, it's fine. Most of the non-cyclical and nin-habbening threads here are shit tier bait.

>>2652538
No, honestly it's fine, better than most the pure dogshit of the catalogue recently.
>>2686335
>cyclical and habbening threads
You lot barely post in them, instead preferring to learn nothing and endlessly bicker in whatever batch of nonsense threads, usually downstream of this weeks twitter engagement-slop.



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I was curious to know what you guys thought about liberalism. Do you think it’s still opium of the masses take for example Donald Trump is a crypto fascist like what he did in Iran
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American thread with American-tier posts.

>>2649389
>full of contradictions
such as? locke's concept of property as being based in mixing labour and nature is the same basis from which marx proceeds:
<Private property is first considered only in its objective aspect – but nevertheless with labour as its essence.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/comm.htm
with justice equally being based in the right one possesses in his legitimate property, as marx further agrees with:
<This sphere that we are deserting, within whose boundaries the sale and purchase of labour-power goes on, is in fact a very Eden of the innate rights of man. There alone rule Freedom, Equality, Property and Bentham.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch06.htm
<There is here, therefore, an antinomy, right against right, both equally bearing the seal of the law of exchanges.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch10.htm
this "bourgeois right", marx extends down to the primary phase of communist society:
<Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it […] Hence, equal right here is still in principle – bourgeois right
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm
>It heavily inspired the French Revolution with their slogan of "liberty, equality, and fraternity"
locke's contributions in terms of slogans is more relevant to "life, liberty and the pursuit of property", equally appreciated by jean-jacques rousseau and thomas jefferson in the french and american revolutions, with the declaration of independence also highlighting the "consent of the governed", a notion of a "social contract", thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2649413
i would suggest you read "brave new world" (1932)

>>2649413
>What to do with the remaining 95%?
They waste time consuming AI entertainment.

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>>2524229
U weren’t a kang



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>leftypol: uwu we need to be careful not to spread antisemitism (which is uniquely evil and just another form of ethnic hatred) when attacking zionists and we need to be careful when addressimg the bourgeoisie
>also not all pedos are bad!!
<literal liberal wine moms: kill all bourgeois pedo zionists, proletarian dictatorship NOW
why the difference?
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(((leftypol))) is a neocon board

>literal liberal wine moms: uwu we need to be careful not to spread antisemitism (which is uniquely evil and just another form of ethnic hatred) when attacking zionists and we need to be careful when addressimg the bourgeoisie
>also not all pedos are bad!!
<redditor libs: kill all bourgeois pedo zionists, proletarian dictatorship NOW

FTFY

Antisemitism is the only form of bigotry that should be allowed on all websites.

>also not all pedos are bad!!
Where has anybody ever said this?

antisemitism is an excuse to deny oneself a comprehensive analysis of society, as lenin tells us.



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You know, I came to the conclusion Zionism cannot have any kind of materialist explanation, because it's not capitalism or whatever, it's simply a cult that must dismantled by humanity together.

Trying to understand Zionism as anything other than a cult will result in failure.
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Also I will always make the point that Judaism is NOT an Ethno-religion. This is just bullshit made up by Zionists and holds up to zero scrutiny whatsoever.
Judaism wasn't ethnic based in classical times.
Judaism was never ethnic based in medieval times (different Jewish ethnic groups existed from Ethiopians to Chinese to Ashkenazi)
"Jew" in European context = Ashkenazi.
Israel itself in pracitce doesn't view it as a ethno-religion. There is a real heirarchy of ethnicities in Israel with Ashkenazi being the top, Mizrahi trailing far behind, and groups like Ethiopian, Kaifeng etc basically considered LARPers. (despite Ethiopian Jews being arguably one of the earliest and unbroken Jewish groups)
Even the Nazis didn't target all Jews as a ethnicity, but Ashkenazi, other Jewish groups were largely ignored showing even more Jew = Ashkenazi.
If you believe Judaism is a ethnicity due to cultural practice, not all Jews have the same cultural practice (even among ashkenazi, russian saboteur comes from a Western jewish insult against Russian/Eastern European Jews) and if this were true, then if you put up a Christmas Tree surely you are Ethnically Christian. Christianity also holds all that accept Christ are of the same "nation" (ethnicity/people).
Pre-WW2 the idea Jews were all the same was seen as absurd by most Jews.
<there is not a Jewish nation. The members of my family, for instance, who have been in this country for generations, have no sort or kind of community of view or of desire with any Jewish family in any other country beyond the fact that they profess to a greater or less degree the same religion. It is no more true to say that a Jewish Englishman and a Jewish Moor are of the same nation than it is to say that a Christian Englishman and a Christian Frenchman are of the same nation: of the same race, perhaps, traced back through the centuries – through centuries of the history of a peculiarly adaptable race. The Prime Minister and M. Briand are, I suppose, related through the ages, one as a Welshman and the other as a Breton, but they certainly do not belong to the same nation. - Edwin Montagu, arguably the most powerful Jewish political figure in the world at the time, 1917

>da joos wanting to have their own state mean they are demons from hell

>>2686248
this but unironically

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>>2686248
>poor little jews just want their own state which is why every western politician needs to be bribed by Israel, why we need to send them billions every year, fight their wars, and arm them to the teeth, oh and we need antisemitism laws to stop you talking about any of that. If you disagree with any of this you're just an antisemite

>>2686258
who says that on this website



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Did Gorbachev cause the fall of the USSR?
I live in the United States and we were always taught that he did but it was somehow a good thing. I understand that Gorbachev wasn't the one who collapsed it and that it was Yeltsin who did, Gorbachev's reforms just caused it to happen because it caused so much nationalist sentiment to brew up, but I still think he is somewhat responsible. It was reckless and stupid to abandon Marxism-Leninism for Social Democracy and it was also reckless to let the eastern bloc have elections knowing that the CIA would mess with them which they did. I understand that stagnation was a problem but he should of listened to Deng's advice rather than allow so much nationalist sentiment to brew up and illegally dismantle your country, I understand that the USSR kind of sucked domestically but foreign-policy wise it was the most moral superpower to ever exist, and the bar is very low.

>>>/Draw/5715
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>>2654366
You are retarded. Self-humiliation through stupidity

>>2653020
Nope. He was 50 years late with his reforms.

I've gone through the reasons for the collapse of the USSR numerous times, so I can't be bothered to write out another several thousand word post, so just quick pointers.
- Inherited shitty Tsarist institutions and adopted nomenklatura as the way to rise up through the party
- This meant the entire system created a system of nepotism + merits. Instead of working together, people gamed the system to sabotage rivals instead making them look better.
- Purges happened, Communists didn't know how to shut their mouths and fell to libtard rivals who played the game.
- Stalin dies, Libtards come to power
- Destalinization is really just Decommunization-lite
- Soviet ministry of finance becomes more powerful as Financialization starts to occur, they start sabotaging the central statisics bureau with funding cuts. This means GOSPLAN starts to falter and reforms like OGAS (Soviet internet) get canned.
- 1965 reforms come in pushed by Kyosgin and Liberman, within 5 years these plans will kill functional central planning and GOSPLAN in the USSR. By 1970, not a single top down target is being met or cared about.
- This empowers the Red Directors of Industry, they become even more insanely corrupt and basically will only do their jobs if you bribe them, this attitude of quid pro quo sweeps across the USSR, to even see a doctor you need to bring a "gift" or to get a decent cut of meat you bring a gift to the butcher etc.
- Brezhnev is just a military/heavy industry brained nationalist, who empowers other nationalist allies across the USSR.
- So now you have Nationalist presidents + Red Directors who are functional Capitalists.
- Andropov comes in, KGB, wants to reform the USSR, brings all sorts of advisors in, basically ends up with a more Xi-style approach, anti-corruption, light economic reforms, clamp down on social degeneracy and restore Communist values
- Dude dies from Type 1 Diabetes as soon as his reforms start to see results
- Dude brought back literally exiled Capitalist shitlibs just to see what they had to say, now they are at the top of the USSR advisory apparatus.
- They get a puppet in, they seize their opportunity with help from the Red Directors and Nationalist Presidents.
- *Komm Susser Todd starts playing*

Gorbachev was just the culmination of nearly half a century effort by opportinists to dismantle the soviet system

>I understand that [Great Man] wasn't the one who collapsed [supposed mode of production with full-on class dictatorship] it and that it was [other Great Man] who did
Shit website



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GESTURE OF GOODWILL TO WASHINGTON edition

https://www.rt.com/russia/614918-kiev-cannot-control-military-kremlin/
>The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it.

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
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>>2686237
>Ukrainian conspiracy theory
That IS the MSM narrative when anybody presses on post 2014 fate or will of the people of donbass and eastern Ukrainian russia speakers in general. There never was any problems or hostility in donbass before Russian intelligence rolled in with agitators and crates full of weapons. Everybody all across Ukraine more or less loved the maidan movement. Any bloodshed is fully Russia's fault.

Though nobody speaks about it anymore. Narrative from kiev towards donbass has for years been low key "death to the traitors". And by narrative I mostly mean the shells that still flew into Donetsk a couple of years ago. Western media just skips the issue totally. Pretends that there is no implications (the pits, rifles and concrete poured over the bodies) of Ukraine wanting to liberate that area and the people inhabiting it, while the people are fighting against Ukraine, first mostly alone and now as part of the RUAF.

The problem with Ziggers asserting that eastern Ukraine was full of Russian sympathizers is that if that really had been true their military would not have been stuck there for 4+ years and they would have quickly rolled over the area. The FSB was paying Ukrainian informants who told them they would be welcomed with flowers and parades and when that didn't happen and there was no mass revolt welcoming the Russians, they all got stuck in a meat grinder.

In truth, most Ukranians (west or east doesn't matter) have no dog in this fight. They don't like Zelensky's conscription goons but they also don't like Putin rolling in with the tanks. Most if given the choice would like to flee the country to Europe or any other safe haven.

>>2686267
>In truth, most Ukranians (west or east doesn't matter) have no dog in this fight.
Maybe not originally. Now however everybody in the east and west knows that Kiev is a deathcult that will not accept any negotiated settlement, or end for the war that isn't fully on their terms and they will fight to the last Ukrainian to avoid humiliation, if it's left up to them. For many Ukrainians Russian victory is a matter of survival and the fastest road for the end of the war. That road is still a bloody road.

>>2686267
Civilians haveno weapons, you tard.




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Well my country is fucking me over. Trump and his administration seem to be on a mission to genocide neets. So there's that..Very easy to attack neets and their gibs to give sad pleasures to wagecucks. Anyone else living such a situation? Feels like the world is more and more pressuring you to rope yourself… oh well…
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>>2648855
>ohhhhh i cant be a middle class parasite anymore fuck le "wagecucks" XD
kill yourself lol

>>2651678
Definitely. One of those E's is Eductation. It's a lifestyle that purposefully abstains from seeking eductation, which just seems like a recipe to drive yourself insane.

>>2651678
It doesn't really but it depends on the person. Rather it sucks because of the constant doom you may feel about your future but once you have a job you realize why you neet and that's because it's still less stressful all things considered.

>>2651651
NEET means Not in Education Employment or Training. If you're in college then you're not a NEET by definition.

>>2648855
>Anyone else living such a situation?
I would commit mass suicide if I lived in USA.



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>>2535127

So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?
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>>2684984
The future is an endless proxy war between CIA groomed islamists and literally every one else, including NATO. The GWoT spans to the horizon of history, tearing through the fantasies of diminishing rates of profit.

>>2685227
Yeah, and it will win because there is no 'Left'anymore. The ground is fertile for islamic retardation.

>>2685255
well, maybe once manufacturing moves back to europe one day
china doesn't like islamists, so at least they exist
islam will probably die one day too, anyway

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>>2684966
Example, see >>2679063



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Obviously its a cult, but so are all religions.
Obviously its bullshit, but so are all religions.
It considers itself an "atheistic religion" (thats a fucking contradiction) since it tries to rationalize its bullshit through UFOs and science fiction rhetoric.
A little birdie somewhere said that their founder was affiliated with Mossad, maybe?
They have this libtarded view of progress and obnoxious view on sexual liberation to a point of complete perversion.

Other than that it seems pretty instrumental. It's one of the few cults that don't seem to try to be secretive and one researcher actually claimed they were extremely open to being studied and wrote a book about them called Aliens Adored: Raël's UFO Religion which I haven't read, I also haven't bothered to read any of their texts because they look like generic extremely boring new age religion schizobabble feel-good "energy" quotefarms.

Is it just posadism for liberals? Seems like it.
Can it be instrumentalized and utilized for greater purpose?
They fund cloning research and may have even attempted / done it at some point (who knows), among other stuff.

They were annoying with their proselytising enough for the South Korea regime to take action against them at one point (3rd pic related).
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>>2685915
>"atheistic religion" (thats a fucking contradiction)
there is no contradiction here. buddhism is an atheistic religion to various degrees. even the ones that believe in gods might see them as not-self and hence not fundamentally existent entities

the greek atomists were materialists but believed the gods were material beings. if they were and this could be shown scientifically, it would not be simple based on faith

though to begin with religion isnt simply a matter of faith either. this is a very protestant understanding of the phenomenon which ignores material culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjrrUZeJMSo

i feel like this thread belongs on /ufo/

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>>2685915
It's just an alien sex cult. There's like a thousand of those out there. Pay a few dozen prostitutes to wear a bizarre uniform and have them bait a bunch of thirsty motherfuckas and voilá you have already created yet another one of those.

>>2685973
You have an orientalist view of buddhism, buddhism can hardly even be called a singular religion, it is closer to hinduism than anything. Atheism denies gods / god and deities a a whole, buddhism has an entire mythos and cosmology that revolves around deities. You would be laughed at if you are to deny this at any buddhist temple outside the west where the majority of "buddhists" are new age hippie multilevel marketing schemes / cults for yoga farting sluts.

>the greek atomists were materialists but believed the gods were material beings. if they were and this could be shown scientifically, it would not be simple based on faith

Again they believed in something immaterial being material, when gods only ever existed as an abstract concept. If they were smart enough they'd say gods' material forms were their own brains, since that's what created gods in the first place. The material form of a god is a thought in the brain.

No hate, I don't want to lecture others on what to belief, but seeing your secularism I have to ask you to kindly kill yourself liberal retard. Fucking moron. You have to be a complete ignorant deluded moron to look at the history of buddhism and come to the conclusion it is not religious.

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Thoughts on religion ? I had to clean up after right wing Catholics at an Italian restaurant every day. I found religion scrubbing chicken bones out of garbage disposal and my faith while using a Brillo pad on the caked on Mariana pots

CIA, Mossad, whatever dude this spook shits boring



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