/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

From the creators of spiritual aryan, we now have the spiritual lumpenproletariat.

>>2788173
>defining lumpen as working class who lack class consciousness
that not what a lumpen is though. You cant make up completely different definition of words with specific meaning and expect people to take you seriously

>>2787311
>(Why the fuck was this reported?)
Hey janny just tuning in to say that we used to care about the quality of threads on leftypol, long ago.
OP writes in complete sentences and doesn't use any racial slurs so you might be tricked into thinking this is "high quality". But there's no thought or effort put into it at all, it's vibes-based. It uses one poorly written anecdote to extrapolate into a bunch of prole-bashing bullshit.
That's not to say I think it should be deleted, by that standard you would delete most of the threads on this board, so there's no point, but it's not a good thread. If you're really that flabbergasted that someone would consider it low quality you must be new and not realize how far the standards have dropped.
This is at best a siberia quality thread.
I only posted this because janny was so confused, if janny had simply not deleted the thread and left it be obviously I wouldn't say anything, I'm not the one who reported it. But for the janny to be FLABBERGASTED about it is very telling.

>>2788173
>OP said that she's defining lumpen as working class who lack class consciousness.
Well good for her she's wrong.

>>2787801
There's something to be said for having a designated outlet for the absolute disdain I feel towards liberalism at any given moment. This is that outlet for me.

But also NewsAnon's posts are nice. Those are consistently neat.

>>2788075
>because it was done for the sake of land expansion and cultural imperialism.
nah it was done because of security concerns, the idea it was done for "cultural imeprialism" is frankly retarded but most of your post on anything international are retarded anyway
personally not a big fan of it, but anything that fight the nato empire and banderite scum can and should be ultimately supported by anyone calling himself anti imperialist

>>2788140
encirclement can hurt russia economically. as well as destroying pipelines

>>2788179
>encirclement in 2000 + 26
>to a country with a direct land border with the biggest manufacturing base in the world
Kek

Nato is trying to encircle Russia for no reason whatsoever. They dont at all think it would give them any sort of advantage they simply felt like doing it for giggles and Russia is being unreasonable as well as le bad.

>>2788033
my heart is COLD

>>2786875
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>>2787890
hey i don't always agree with the smith anon but can you cool it with the low effort posts. i waited for 3 before complaining because i know complaining doesn't add anything either. i actually wanted him to respond to the dutt video i sent him and I'm glad he did.

>>2787890
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>>2787867
>price regulation, to protect profit rates
Precisely; this is why Ricardo says the law of value only exists under conditions of perfect competition, because otherwise prices can be manually set.
>you don't have to report when your pour milk down the drain, but you do have to report when you gave milk away for free because it was too cheap
Yes, same way capitalist profit can be measured at a propotional rate of corporate waste. This was discussed earlier in the thread:
>>2726637
>>2726944
Thus, profit is literally just a giant pile of rubbish.
>so the problem here is the centrality of the profit motive to the functioning of the entire economy, rather than some failure to return to an earlier stage of idyllic competition between small firms, no?
I am reminded of Marx's comments upon the fetishism of commodities; that where there is commodity exchange, the essence of man is alienated into this idol. We aready see the gradation of the cosmos displayed by a procession of metallic ages by Hesiod (800 BCE), where Gold is greatest and Iron is worst. Despite this, as Aristotle remarks, iron is a more useful thing than Gold, and so what is "greater" is also worse. Thus, the spectre of value has already captured man's imagination, with its present internal division. This has its sacred device in sacrifice, where temples of gold and silver are crafted, where food is rotted and burnt and drink is split as an offering (surplus value is already here as a political excess). In the Book of Malachi we see the Israelites chastised for coveting the sacred offerings for themselves; the unblemished lamb is made as food rather than service to the deity (a conflict between cost and use). So then, the logic of value is inherent to worship, and thus operates as man's central subjectivity. Marx's brilliance is in his materialist reversal of Hegel on this point; where geist is identified as value, with history being its self-determination. SoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2787354
holy mother of walls of text who reads allat

>>2787953
me i read that

>>2787893
>can you cool it with the low effort posts
>hey i don't always agree
can you go fuck yourself with this liberal appeasement ?

>>2786931
>an article
thats just a random person ranting on the chinese equivalent of quora, not "an article" that examined the average condition thoroughly across the country

and yes a lot of factory work (especially exploiting rural migrant labor) can be pretty damn awful, thats standard capitalist dynamic at work
but on the other hand, these eventually get automated (or get outcompeted by automated factories and close), or there come a crackdown from the authorities, or they're forced to improve condition, or workers get truly fed up and come in the CEO office to sequester him and the authorities make an example out of him and send him to jail to calm everyone down
all statistics and metrics show that steadily things are improving, and work become higher quality and less harsh.

>>2787131
all polls show that on the contrary, they massively support the current system and government, and your argument is retarded, none of the developed states are at replacement rate

>>2787415
no, it was a smart policy with some bad side effects

>>2787825
You can’t genuinely support a system where you can’t afford to have kids, also polls are literally always wrong

>>2787943
i think we are being raided by the sharty rn

This is why the idea of total first world death has been around for decades

do you guys like gigachad

Dialectics are bullshit and aren't reflective of reality. Only certain phenomena appear to move in a Dialectical motion.

>>2787974
Re-read my post you buffoon

>>2787979
my posts will change the world!!!

>>2788007
Yeah I read your post and it relies on me and my org being amerikkkan. If my party was helping homeless people and I started talking about TAD everyone would agree

>>2787202
>joker movie (2019) reference
spiritually burger

new thread burggas >>2788019

>>2785232
So you're saying like, that a new middle strata always becomes the next ruling class instead of creating a 1 class society or a or 0 class society? That's like zeno's paradox but with classes instead of distance.

>>2785232
Well of course you can't abolish exploitation why would anyone be hired just to produce enough to support themselves. But under communism society exploits you instead of capitalists.

>>2785677
>But under communism society exploits you instead of capitalists.
but vulgar marxists don't usually read the gothakritik and understand this

>>2785232
>the neepalz are the buttons
i want to peench them