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Like I already knew Maxwell was and possibly still is a big deal on Reddit and it's been clear maybe in part Epstein groomed the entirety of 4chan into believing Bill Gates was a pedo out to genocide Africa with aids vaccines or something partially out of petty revenge for the Xbox Live ban, but it's the same deal as with Elon Musk buying Twitter instead of using a fraction of that money to sue Twitter and put a fire under the ass of government to enforce their own make believe laws they fucking made and apply to the rest of us.

It proves one thing above all else is that these pieces of shit are not only useless, they're spineless. Rather than actually use their billions to challenge the Frankenstein's monster they themselves created, they simply ignore it. Igniiting fake controversy and being the most benign force possible. Same way these worthless assholes share child porn they could bombard Xbox Live or Twitter or whatever with it and go "see feds? Jannies are liable. Now hold them liable for breaking the point of section 230 going after dumb shit instead of real criminal activity or you're gonna see more criminal activity"

That's it. That's all they'd have to do. But that'd be too simple and too constructive. I never wanna hear again about fedposting or honey pots. The people at the type are just nonsense pussies with a bunch of incel psychodrama. That Maxwell cunt probably banned and harassed hundreds of thousands of real people while circulating her alts and bots meanwhile she couldn't even tame one man. The man she clearly wanted.

She's pathetic, a loser, she should have died too along with Epstein. They should all kill themselves. They won't. They're too pussy for that too and they know their asses belong in a lake of fire. That's why they go to child rape islands because if normal people saw them they'd get a bullet in the temple. Not because of all the crimes, not because they're just sooooo evil and spooky and powerful.

Because they're just useless human beings. They're vermin and they all hate each other too. They're just normies. They're just boomer ahh normies with money and don't know what to do with it because normies and boomers can't create, they can't improve, they cannot innovate or challenge or even try.

It's pathetic. They're pathetic. You give the bourgeois too much credit.

>>2678415
real shit
the bourgeoisie are not superhuman but parasites
kill em all

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reading the epstein leaks makes me believe epstein did kill himself. accidentally, because he was a fucking retard

anyway,
>another thread about this shit

OP is retarded. stop spamming new threads and go back to /pol/.

Kinda wish I had a psycho gf like Maxwell this pic is straight up relationship goals (minus the child trafficking rape and stuff)

>>2678415
>Because they're just useless human beings. They're vermin and they all hate each other too. They're just normies. They're just boomer ahh normies with money and don't know what to do with it because normies and boomers can't create, they can't improve, they cannot innovate or challenge or even try.
Normies don't sodomize, torture, butcher and eat children in the name of Baal and Israel, anon.



 

How exactly are you supposed to overthrow the government of the most powerful country on Earth with a legally registered above ground organization where members don't hide their affiliation and which can never ever ever commit a crime? I don't support adventurism or terrorism or firebombing a Walmart or useless political assassinations that only have symbolic results. But revolution is still illegal and actually successfully accomplishing a real revolution involves committing countless crimes, often violent ones, and requires being actually capable of withstanding extremely intense state repression. The "left" in Western countries seems stuck in an eternal malaise where it struggles to accomplish virtually anything. Why? Let's look at the Western left. You either have glorified liberal NGOs with red flags doing an endless bullshit loop of holding up signs and selling newspapers or fighting losing battles to get tiny NLRB contracts, or ocassionally you have a schizophrenic anarchist/symbionese liberation army cult doing nothing but adventurism and firebombing walmarts. I posit that this malaise is because making a left-wing party is legal in liberal democracies, so any normal left wing party is lured to become a "legal" organization with all that entails. The exceptions in Western society naturally tend towards pure adventurism. I think the Bolsheviks actually significantly benefited from being an illegal underground party through most of the course of their existence. They had to learn the organizational tools to genuinely learn to survive state repression, to act decisively, and to build dual power without resorting to mindless suicidal adventurism. A revolution is not legal, so why would you try to accomplish the most brazenly illegal act of all (overthrowing the government) with a defanged legal organization? If the government decided to to a second Red Scare tomorrow, all these orgs would instantly evaporate. We need to go underground before being a communist is illegal and not after.
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>>2678370
I also assume this place is heavily Westerner given how popular the usapol and related threads are. People should organize where they are even if it's not perfect.

>>2678317
Looking at how the US communists acted at their height prior to the red scare also proves all of this. They had extensive organizations, from militant unions to armed workers to mutual aid societies to communist colleges - all above ground and never willing to cross the line of denying the state's legitimacy and fighting for their own state. Not even a single failed attempt. And then when the government decided to crack down they just took it and most of their connection to the working class was dissolved, leaving them to take all kinds of slander and become incredibly unpopular. Though it probably also has to be taken into account that the US has probably never had amazing conditions for revolution. While we had an extremely oppressed proletariat, they were divided by race, and large portions of the country were agricultural, but not as landless peasants, rather landed settlers. So long as there was the ability to bribe so much of white america there wasn't a real chance at revolution.

Now that we're getting to a point where revolution might be possible, we're saddled with the baggage of parties that have no real desire to conduct revolution and revolutionary theory that has no clue how to deal with a strong state. The leninist insurrection model of revolution relies heavily on spontaneity of class conscious workers, which is only helpful when the state is already on the brink of military collapse and where the worker and peasant origin draftee army can be swayed to the side of a revolutionary surge that momentarily has momentum and popularity. The maoist model is based on a state already in civil war, with the dominant aspect being a regular army armed and aided by a neighboring country that has to deal with the contradictions that arise from violently taking control of villages, in a rural feudal country. The US model of revolution needs to learn from both of these but it won't be able to blindly mimic any model. Communists for the large part have been content to not address this question at all, vaguely supporting the leninist model (since it requires the least planning and risk - in their minds at least, since they don't even follow the real methods of the bolsheviks but instead a sanitized version that only focuses on unions and spontaneous armed struggle and ignores the preparation of the red guard and the deep neighborhood ties Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2678366
Of course the most smug firstie is the most ignorant firstie.

>>2678317
Some thing we'll need to focus on uniquely in the US:
- divorcing the working class from the bourgeoisie by boycotting bourgeois news, entertainment, and social media (and replacing it with out own news, recreation clubs, neighborhood social events, socialist owned social media, etc.)
- active counterinsurgency style suppression of terrorist white christian nationalists that will be increasingly mobilized if we begin being successful against open authorities like cops and the military (which would require creating our own pervasive intelligence apparatus)
- tunnels and underground facilities to counter surveillance and US air superiority

Structure of revolutionary organizations:
>communist center (exclusive to ideological communists, for the purpose of studying social conditions, strategizing revolution, and developing policy to further our goals)
<revolutionary organization (armed militants and activists. Carrying out strategy and policy of communist center. Engaged in all practical activities, which are too myriad to list here. No ideological requirement in order to harness people's desire to do something with least friction possible)
>fronts (all times/places where people come together and socialize. The purpose of activity in these is to identify advanced, intermediate, and backwards, recruit the advanced, educate the intermediate, exert pressure for the campaign to divorce our class from the bourgeoisie, and engage in mass line and preliminary social investigation. Fronts should be opened and pushed ideally until they cover 100% of the working class population)

Other considerations:
- grow armed capacity in proportion to popular logistical support and avoid any confrontation until we can engage with initiative at a constant tempo; be prepared that once fighting is commenced we'll have to transition to more demands on supporters and discipline of armed forces, e.g. housing them in a single neighborhood that can be surveilled by us so we they be picked off individually by raids, fortification of safehouses, tunnels connecting them
- armed struggle will mainly be urban guerrilla warfare until very late in the struggle
- consolidate wins by annihilating the most backwards within the working class;Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2678324
The issue is that all of the more moderate leftists get drawn towards the neutered legal parties, unlike in Tsarist Russia where repression of all forms of leftism forced them to join underground movements. And of course the vast majority of people are moderates and not radicals, or else being a radical wouldn't be radical.

So the "democratic" system is a very effective way of sapping real vanguard parties of popular support, and a communist party by its nature needs the people's support. And of course there's also that modern digital surveillance is orders of magnitude better than the Tsar's surveillance was, which greatly helps 3 letter agencies in dismantling threats. I honestly think the only way is to do things that accelerate the collapse of the state, both economic and social. In the event of a collapse the state surveillance apparatus will stop operating, and the stable, secure society with treats will break down, making people a lot more receptive to the idea of a new system better than the old one that they just saw fail.



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The so-called “third-worldist” strain of communism is a perfect illustration of how an ideology can cosplay as Marxism while violating its most basic analytical foundations. Marxism is not a moral sympathy project for whoever looks poorest on a map; it is a materialist framework rooted in relations of production, class antagonism, and the concrete development of capitalism. Third-worldism replaces this with a crude geopolitics of vibes, where entire populations are flattened into revolutionary subjects simply because they exist outside the imperial core. This is not scientific socialism—it is aesthetic anti-imperialism dressed up in red slogans.
What makes this intellectual laziness especially useful is how neatly it dovetails with the American ruling class’s real interest: keeping Americans from developing class consciousness. The recent Epstein file circus is a perfect case study. Instead of directing attention toward systemic exploitation, capital concentration, labor suppression, or the very ordinary mechanisms of class power, the discourse is flooded with lurid, sensational, half-digested “revelations” that function primarily as outrage pornography. Whether parts of these files are real, exaggerated, or outright nonsense is almost beside the point—the effect is the same. The conversation shifts from material analysis to paranoid scavenger hunts.
And this is where conspiracy thinking becomes a political dead end. People who treat every unverified, context-free claim in those files as gospel aren’t radical truth-seekers; they’re useful idiots for distraction. Conspiracism feels subversive because it flatters the believer with secret knowledge, but it is fundamentally anti-Marxist. It replaces structural critique with villain lore, collective struggle with individual villains, and historical materialism with fan fiction about hidden cabals. The result isn’t revolutionary consciousness—it’s political infantilization.
In short, third-worldist posturing and Epstein-file hysteria serve the same function: they give people something to feel angry about without giving them anything to understand. And an angry but confused population is infinitely safer for the ruling class than a calm one that actually knows how power works.
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>>2678334
I’m talking about revolution in the first world you little deflector

>>2678336
Ogey but that doesn't vindicate your idealist position since revolution is impossible in both the west (labor aristocracy) and the east (class struggle supplanted by national struggle)

Your ideology is a CIA contra psyop

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>>2677656
>muh chokehold

Now let's compare the casualties of two (2) weeks long Iranian protests with a year long BLM and anti-ICE protests…

We would be living in global communism if burgers had 1/100th of vigour that Iranian proles have

>>2678340
>>2678343
brctal trvkenvke



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>The president is a pedophile rapist.
<Lets have a protest.
>The administration is protecting and covering up major pedophiles (incl. in major US ally states).
<Lets have a protest.
>Rich pedophiles with economic power and pedophiles in administration.
<Lets have a protest.
>America is invading many nations.
<Lets have a protest.
>The police and ICE are arresting, repressing and killing innocent citizens.
<Lets have a protest.
>There are constant school shootings and a mental health crisis (that can easily be resolved by ending drug prohibition).
<Lets have a protest, and no to drugs, drugs are le bad!
>More repressive laws to certain groups of people keep coming and passing.
<Lets have a protest.
>Nations have become surveillence states and privacy is dead.
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>>2678274
the organizing model in the US is broken. All the big name orgs are just liberal ngos with red flags. How are you supposed to overthrow the government of the most powerful country on Earth with a 501(c)3? This is not in favor of adventurism btw, but if you can't break the law in literally any capacity…

>>2677024
All you have to do to hurt the US economy is to industrialize your country and wait.

>>2676940
>civil war
There isn't a union of states willing to split so there won't be any civil war II.
>>2677939
The best strategy is to chip away at the billionaire class of pedo elites until they are no more.

>>2678292
>chip away
I don't mean violence, I mean outwitting and outmaneuvering them. This is a creative process.

>>2678292
It wouldn’t be along state lines because it’s an urban vs rural divide, imagine Syria but for an entire continent and with a Russian/Ukrainian aged population that’s what a second US civil war would be



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I was told by someone on here that in order to be a Communist, I must "believe" in "Free Will." Somehow, I doubt this is truly a prerequisite, but if it really is the case, then so be it.

Before getting into "Free Will," there is no good evidence that human beings possess an immaterial “soul” that thinks, chooses, or survives bodily death. All available evidence indicates that what we have hitherto called a “person,” is an activity of a living brain in a living body. Mental states reliably track brain states; damage the brain and you damage memory, personality, judgment, and agency; destroy it entirely and the person disappears. No additional essence remains.

Human brains are biological systems governed by physical law. They are extraordinarily complex, adaptive, and self-modeling, which produces the powerful subjective experience and outward appearnce of "authorship" and "choice," but nothing in neuroscience suggests that brains initiate actions independently of prior physical causes. Also, introducing indeterminism or randomness does not rescue “free will” in the libertarian sense, since randomness adds noise, rather than control.

The popular notion of "Free Will" as an uncaused, self-originating power of the "soul" or of the brain, in more secular accounts of "Free Will," is therefore unsupported. What exists instead are constrained decision-making processes embedded in biology, development, and environment. Responsibility is not metaphysical; it is a social practice invented and enforced by humans to shape behavior while brains are still alive and responsive to incentives.

There is no evidence that accountability survives death. When the brain permanently ceases to function, the person is gone. What remains is matter, not an observing subject.

These conclusions are not radical inventions of modern science. The dependence of mind on the condition of the brain has been observable since antiquity through injury, disease, and degeneration, and has been progressively clarified by advances in biology, chemistry, and physics. What is new is not the insight itself, but the precision.

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>>2678149
>will that you cannot control what you will
So a double negative?
(will)(not will)(not will) = (will)
consider it done maestro.

The question of free will is too individualistic. You should argue about determinism vs indeterminism. Either society is determinate or it is not.

>>2678319
>The question of free will is too individualistic. You should argue about determinism vs indeterminism.
also free will is fake whether the universe is deterministic or random.

Consciousness isn’t a thing; it’s an activity. Dialectical materialism treats consciousness like digestion or locomotion. No single molecule digests food, but digestion is very real. Consciousness is the brain’s ongoing activity of modeling and regulating its interaction with the world, especially social reality.

Organization creates new causal powers. When matter is organized in a specific way, new kinds of causation appear. A neuron can fire; a brain can plan, remember, imagine, and reflect. These aren’t “added on,” they are what neural activity becomes once it’s organized into self-referential, feedback-rich, temporally integrated systems.

Unity comes from self-relation. Consciousness requires the system to relate to its own states over time. Brains do this constantly: monitoring, predicting, correcting themselves. That recursive loop is what produces a single point of view, even though it’s materially distributed.

The subject is the process, not a part. Asking “which neuron experiences consciousness?” is like asking “which gear in the engine is running?” The experiencing subject is the total dynamic process, not a component hidden inside it.

In dialectics quantity transforms into quality. This is the emergent property. At a certain level of complexity, interaction density, and historical development (language, labor, social practice), neural activity undergoes a qualitative transformation. Consciousness isn’t gradual glow-up of neurons; it’s a phase change in organized matter.

So yeah, consciousness is real, but free will and souls are not.

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>>2678319
"indeterminism" or "randomness" is appearance NOT essence.

Something deterministic APPEARS "random" in the absence of a sufficient predictive computational model. It's an absence of the ability to measure things in the necessary speed/quantity to determine the outcome in advance. All "randomness" is really pseudorandom.



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i know this is a extremely niche question, but i will try it anyway. so there was a big debate among a certain brand of marxists over the question of THREE HOLE THEORY VS. TWO HOLE THEORY.

only very few marxists can actually remember this significant moment in heterodox marxism. so in short: there was this ingenious heideggerian marxist and he came up with the conclusion, that TWO HOLE THEORY is actually real.

and now after the dust has settled: was he right?
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How many volumes of Capital did Posadas read again? Like six? There's probably four holes for the fourth international, its like cosmic trotskyist symbology.

Best part was where they said that actually due to the dialectical material of the vulva it is two hole you bourgeois degenerate. Anyway we all liked Sexy Latina way more… her ethnogensis identity (la raza - read Freire) is part of the fundamental American race, sorry Asia. Did you expect 21st century American Marxism not to be lumpen? What era do you think we live in?

three hole theory is the correct one, because I fucked your mom in the vagina, the ass and the mouth

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>it's actually 7 or 8 holes

Shitpost thread up in /leftypol/ during American hours for 5h
This place is great



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Epstein and Steve Bannon discuss Tommy Robinson in newly released files
On 3 July 2019, Epstein shared an article with Bannon, known to be a Robinson ally, reporting that the activist had been found guilty of contempt of court for live-streaming defendants accused of sexually abusing young girls in a 2018 trial. Bannon replied, calling Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the "'backbone of England'". Epstein replied: "Thats why the pound so low".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/epstein-and-steve-bannon-discuss-tommy-robinson

Son of Norway's crown princess with Epstein ties arrested before his trial on rape and other charges
Marius Borg Hoiby was arrested on Sunday evening and accused of assault, making threats with a knife and breaching a restraining order, police said. Prosecutors have requested four weeks’ detention, citing a risk of reoffending. He is expected to appear before Oslo district court on Tuesday.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/son-norways-crown-princess-epstein-ties-arrested-his-trial-rape-and-other-charges

France passes budget after months of wrangling and no-confidence motions
The budget was passed using special constitutional powers that avoided it being submitted to parliament for a vote. But as part of that process, Lecornu and his government faced a series of no-confidence motions. The government survived the final two votes of no confidence on Monday evening.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/02/france-passes-budget-after-wrangling-no-confidence-motions-sebastien-lecornu

Undercover cop tried to ‘induce’ activists into firebombing charity shop, inquiry hears
Former trade union organiser and socialist Joe Batty gave evidence on the first day of Tranche 3 (Phase 2) of the inquiry, describing how one of the most notorious undercover police officers attempted to lure him and activisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

DHS’s account of two Venezuelans shot by border patrol falls apart in court: ‘A smear campaign’
Court records obtained by the Guardian reveal a Department of Justice prosecutor later directly contradicted DHS’ Tren de Aragua statements in court, telling a judge, “We’re not suggesting … [Niño-Moncada] is a gang member.” An FBI affidavit issued following the incident also suggests that in the previous shooting cited by DHS, Zambrano-Contreras was not a suspect, but rather a reported victim of a sexual assault and robbery. Neither Niño-Moncada or Zambrano-Contreras have prior criminal convictions, their lawyers have said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/02/portland-venezuelans-shot-border-patrol-court

Judge lifts order to preserve evidence in Alex Pretti shooting
“Though the record is not one-sided, the greater weight of the evidence shows Defendants are not likely to destroy or improperly alter evidence related to Mr. Pretti’s shooting during the life of this case, and other relevant considerations do not on balance favor a continuing preservation order,” the Trump-appointed judge wrote.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/02/minnesota-judge-alex-pretti-gun-00761319

‘Surveillance Is Not Accountability’: Noem Sending DHS Agents in Minnesota Body Cameras
Critics of the administration cast doubt on whether adding more bodycams to the mix will reduce violence by DHS. Campaign for New York Health executive director Melanie D’Arrigo said that immigration agents “murdered two people on video since the beginning of the year, and the Trump administration still lied about what happened and tried to justify it. I don’t think cameras are the solution.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-body-cameras

Bill and Hillary Clinton agree to testify in House Epstein investigation
Bill and Hillary Clinton agreed on Monday to testify in a House investigation into the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, days before the chamber was expPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

"Leadership Would Like Your Help": Indian Billionaire Tapped Jeffrey Epstein Before Modi's Visits to U.S. and Israel
Documents released by the U.S. Department of Justice on Friday reveal previously unreported details about financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s role as a backroom power broker amid the rapid strengthening of India-Israel ties in 2017. Epstein connected an Indian billionaire close to Prime Minister Narendra Modi with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak ahead of the first ever trip by an Indian PM to Israel. Days later, that billionaire, Anil Ambani, told Epstein after a visit to Delhi that “Leadership” wanted Epstein’s help for Ambani to meet “jared and Bannon asap,” and requested his “assistance” regarding Modi’s upcoming meeting with Trump. Modi’s landmark visit to Israel in 2017 helped accelerate the burgeoning relationship between the three countries. Afterward, Epstein celebrated in an email that Modi had “danced and sang in Israel for the benefit of the US president.” On Saturday, the Indian government responded to the revelations about Modi’s visit to Israel in Epstein’s communications. “We have seen reports of an email message from the so-called Epstein files that has a reference to the Prime Minister and his visit to Israel,” said a statement by India’s foreign affairs ministry. “Beyond the fact of the Prime Minister’s official visit to Israel in July 2017, the rest of the allusions in the email are little more than trashy ruminations by a convicted criminal, which deserve to be dismissed with the utmost contempt.”
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/modi-epstein-files-bannon-billionaire-anil-ambani-india-israel-united-states-justice-department

Strategic Shift and Kinetic Action: The U.S. Approach Against the Islamic State in Nigeria
Nigeria’s domestic insecurity has increasingly been instrumentalized within U.S. foreign policy discourse. In November last year, President Donald Trump threatened direct kinetic intervention to counter a so-called “Christian genocide” in Nigeria. Despite these claims, insecurity is driven by overlapping and long-standing land disputes, herder-farmer tensions, communal violence, and organized crime, with the vast majority of victims of miliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>(((Elites))) that are bad because satanism and pedophilia

Go back to reddit

>>2678207
pedantic autism born solely out of spite and contrarianism while relying on floating signifiers like "based" and "reddit"
kill yourself

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>>2678211
Class struggle will supplant your class collaboration and your grave sites will be turned common-owned toilets for future generations



 

In light of recent news, I'd like to remind everyone that there's not a single credible source that confirms that lavrdntyi beria ever raped kidd.

USSR eternally vindicated in everything, forever and rver
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>>2678032
He was still a shitty guy post-stalin wanting to sell east germany to america or something like that. Thanks at least for the nuke, but it was an imperative so even without him, they would have started the nuke project.

>beria was a based dark triad sigma
>beria was innocent dindu nuffin
Just pick first for edgelords and second for the normies

He just raped workers

Either he didn't rape kids, or if he did the Soviet justice system gave him what he deserved. Simple as.

>>2677081
>not a single credible source
oh yeah what about a certain mr j epstien



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Who would have thought that the politics of the entire 20th and 21st centuries would have revolved around these two men.
Imagine telling Marx that there were gonna be millions of Lasalles calling themselves Marxists.
Imagine telling Hitler that there were gonna be millions of ᴉuᴉlossnWs calling themselves communist.

>>2678058
>the entire 20th and 21st
>we are only 1/4 of the way through the latter century

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Who would have thought that the politics of the entire 20th and 21 centuries would have revolved around these two men.

the two men are Bauer and Marx

>>2678058
LaSalle was more like Tito if anything TBH. Fuck cooperatives.



 

ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

Manica di degenerati. Non mi aspettavo proprio che dopo un mese d'assenza, il filo cadesse dalla tavola. Vabè, leftypol ormai è l'ombra di quello che era soltanto qualche anno fa, ma c'è un limite a tutto.



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