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2,977 yanks were killed because of the Oslo Accords and the Gilf War. That then dragged America into a 20 year war that it ultimately lost. 2,000 more US servicemen died during Operation Enduring Freedom. This is justice for 400 years worth of oppression towards indigenous peoples and black people. Prove me wrong. America the Great has fallen. 9/11 and 10/7 were the two days when the US and Israel finally felt what they dished out to so many others. They're the reason the Middle East is so unstable. Anglos, Jews and Arabs are all in on it together. The US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Oman got to go.
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>>2794015
That link no longer works but I remember that image and I remember it working at some point.

>>2794022
it works fine, you're bad at typing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoQ5uLK4fI

>>2794023
Oh true, thank you.

>>2794015
They were already running ads like vidrel for asbestos before and after 9/11, the market was already prepared to make a profit off of asbestos victims

>>2793983
DISCLAIMER: I hate AmeriKKKa to an insane extent
I don't think this is that accurate given that most who died probably supported US imperialism and deserved it. I do not, however, see 9/11 as a positive event because it also killed many innocent people.


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I'm really new to politics. What I understood so far is:

socialism: social property of the "means of production" (it can be both democratic or revolutionary)
communism: stateless and classless society
marxism: a sociopolitical and economic analysis of society based on the idea that class struggle under capitalism will eventually lead to a socialist and then communist society

They are different concepts, but can work in a same framework depending on how you define them.

Am I right?
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>>2795866
>decisions have to be planned by rationality and reason not by popularity.
Humans are not rational agents. And indeed, society is such a large organism that it is impossible for society to collectively plan production without competing interests existing. We've seen the 20th century play out, we know a rationally planned economy is not possible.
I think it would be better for producers and consumers to work out their interests and plan locally according to their needs, but I don't think a planned, centralized communist society is possible.

>>2796793
>we know a rationally planned economy is not possible.
only if the richest half of the world refuses to have a revolution for some reason

>>2796793
we're already under a planned economy if you look at how huge business functions,it's just built for profit

>>2796793
>I think it would be better for producers and consumers to work out their interests and plan locally according to their needs
That's basically what I wrote though, you just don't want to say it should function rationally because some people won't be rational but that's expected, nobody is pushing idealism to say all humans are rational. But humans should strive to make rational decisions.

>>2796954
Also Fichte already answered the question of contradiction of interests, its compromise or conflict.


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They are doing much worse things now and Poland isn't to blame. Neither is Soviet Union.
Now Poland has the ability to move aborad, travel-wise and still Poland is blackmailed by those who have a grudge against Poland for March 68.
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>>2776046
trve. maybe bordiga was right about demokkkrakkky

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>>2771924
Endeks we won

anyone?

anybody?

anyxir?


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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2795355
we can simply decide what the length of the working week is, and everything follows from that. this doesn't prevent people from doing things as a hobby

>>2795040
>ai
the point of cybernetics is that planning can be done with discrete algorithms, not AI

>>2796590
>the point of cybernetics is that planning can be done with discrete algorithms, not AI
yes

>>2795040

>Where is the schizo creating the planned economy bot. You would think there would be one Terry Davis MF working on an AI for that exact purpose
>>not enough Data
>Use as much data that is already available. Better sooner than later

oec.world has a lot of data, from several nations, but that's just trade flow. idk how you convert trade flows into plans. and who cares about making planning software if there's nobody in power to actually implement those plans? The world is still divided into nations doing destructive "geopolitics" that race to the bottom and dedicate trillions in resources to strategically outmaneuvering each other. Countries will destroy trillions of dollars to secure billions of dollars. It is an irrational and suicidal system: Capitalism.

>>2795981
>we can simply decide what the length of the working week is, and everything follows from that.
anon that's not how planning works because different commodities are produced and consumed at different rates, and services also have variable demand. In a war you need surgeons who remove bullets and shrapnel working around the clock for example.

>>2796641
uhuh. and in that case we will notice whether we hit the surgeon constraint and we will have to decide whether to relax the labor constraint, to train more surgeons or to simply let people die


 

I've been reading a book about the limits of science, one of it's topics is about the idea of chaos and how complex system cannot be fully know to us or controlled, that does it imply that a planned economy is theoretically impossible for us? What is the answer from socialist about this problem? After that question I'm starting to lean towards a market socialism to deal with the question economy complexity, what's is the LeftyPol answer to the question of economic complexity?

BUmperino

The economy is only limited by the division of labour. If you allow for more specialised labour to flourish, it is harder to control.

>>2796739
You put an ultimatum on something that hasn't even been structured for an attempt, planned production isn't impossible, you fell for the same bullshit premise as "economic miscalculation problem".

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another staged assassination attempt. Trump didn't want to hear jokes at his expense and it gives him the excuse to build his ballroom. There will probably be many more stunts like this. they even had CIA actor Erika Kirk there to bring the community theatre level theatrics. anything to distract from the files. his face here says "yep, i did it again"
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nobody thinks its real. another psyop

>>2793456
Fuck off Maupin

>>2793456

Z tag, q-anon swag.

>>2793155
It's insane how much of it is literally in plainsight. It's so obvious they all recieved the same memo and do it for the same check.
Wasn't it revealed that half of them were indian dudes paid to do this too ?

>>2793173
No, he's just ready for it. For someone of his character and at his age, martyrdom is a preferred method.


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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2792559
I never said I am not a degenerate western man. Okay, maybe a good article explaining the situation?

>Mali’s Defence Minister General Sadio Camara has been killed amid coordinated attacks in military sites across the country, sources told Al Jazeera.

>The news on Sunday came a day after his house in the garrison town of Kati came under attack the previous day.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/26/malis-defence-minister-sadio-camara-killed-amid-coordinated-attacks

>>2792439
Wagner are extremly incompetent and failing to beat the Jihadis, the Jihadis were helped by Ukraine for a bit, but most of their support is local, they're winning because Mali and Wagner is corrupt.
>>2793010
https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20260426-new-fighting-erupts-in-north-mali-s-kidal-as-army-clashes-with-rebels
Mali is withdrawing from some key cities, the end of this war is probably a de facto independant islamic state in Northern Mali, don't think they'll be able to take the rest of the country.

>>2793448
>Wagner are extremly incompetent and failing to beat the Jihadis, the Jihadis were helped by Ukraine for a bit, but most of their support is local, they're winning because Mali and Wagner is corrupt.
wagner (actually its called africa corps now) is mostly light infantry, the problem isnt that they're incompetent or corrupt (although they likely are, given they're mercenaries fucks), the problem is they dont have much heavy equipment or air support and arent many (and the most skilled guys prolly were kept in russia for the war). They're a small support force mostly there to help with shit like training or radio jamming
And I suspect france is helping the jihadist too. Just after france was kicked out mali had managed to retake kidal, a feat french military never helped with, and now they're becoming stronger and striking back and there were report of ukrainians helping them out, so its safe to assume the west empire is backing them as retaliation for the sahel states giving them the boot and nationalizing shit.

>the end of this war is probably a de facto independant islamic state in Northern Mali
thats the situation since more than a decade at this point

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Suriyak got some intel from Wagner: sadly the Malian gouv strategy seems to be like Assadist Syria, with "repositioning and defense" to protect the main centers of power and leaving the rest of the country to rebels


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>FBI agents used a pry bar to enter the Metro Learning Center on 13th Avenue South in Minneapolis just before 7 a.m. on Tuesday.

>The day care in the Phillips neighborhood was one of several across the Twin Cities metro area where federal authorities simultaneously carried out search warrants.

>State records identify the owner of Metro Learning Center as Abdullahi Musse.

>Some time after entering the business, investigators could be seen handing paperwork to a man who responded to that name when approached by 5 INVESTIGATES.

>“Nothing I know,” he said when asked about the FBI operation. He insisted his day care was still serving children and families.

>The Minnesota Department of Human Services cited Metro Learning Center in January for failing to update a background check on one member of its staff.

>So far, federal authorities have not commented about the nature of their search warrant.

>The early morning operation captured the attention of neighbors in the area which also includes other Somali-owned businesses and an Islamic Center.
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feds just take tips from myths at this point, lefty pol's servers are almost ready to get raided because of Houdini

We know what goes on in these ideological enclaves. Too bad the feds are there for money instead of protecting kids (surprise surprise.)

>>2796169
Ah yes, the people's flag could be deepest red with the potential blood of our martyred dead, except it's not.

Belongs in /usapol/


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What’s the material condition pedos gets caught in 4K all the time and rarely gets arrested?

Infamous examples famous lolcow EDP getting caught by predator hunters twice(Low-effort)
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>>2796507
probably labor aristocrat tbh

>>2796476
Great, we're getting pointless 'what is the materialist explanation for my pointless autistic fixations' threads again.
I really hate jannies.

>>2796507
>>2796644
The law can't explicitly give the bourgeoisie amnesty from crimes. Often the laws are written so that in practice they're exempt, but in this case making it so that porky can't get busted simply for being on Epstein's Island "looking for a wild party" also means that fully grown adults trying to meet kids IRL is hard to convict.

>>2796476
Because it's mostly online chats with a decay, not like them actually fucking kids, and if you see what most of them look like no teen or even adult would be fucking them willingly, hence the desperation to fall for the bait.

>>2796882
>Decay
decoy*


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Previous thread: >>2381106

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
https://archive.is/ga3OG
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>>2793004

all the early prophets were just the social struggles against empire and division in ancient forms

Do people in Iran enjoy Islam or do they want to get rid of it?

Every time I lay down I fart. Is that normal?

Does anybody have the /crisis/ OP saved? I think we need that general more than ever right now

>>2796171
Bad diet due to capitalism.


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