>>1697455>The point being in a vacuum can we truly say such a position is bad? When it's stripped of its status as a competitor to Socialism I'd personally say that the corporatist position seems a little more humane than neoliberal capitalism.
I'd agree on the latter but not the former. There is no such thing as a political position 'in a vacuum,' ones' position is either directly connected to reality, or they are insane. Economic third positionism (Corporatism, distributism, syndicalism) is only really analyzable as 'good' or 'bad' for Marxist socialism inasmuch as they are willing to help defeat capital, rather than make some abstract proclamation about the correct doctrine in dealing with differences in opinion. It depends on the situation, the relationships with capital, and the position of us socialists. This was like that discussion in the China thread about the PRC funding the AfD in Germany, and the (imo false) comparison with Molotov-Ribbentrop. >>1697657
This reminds me, I think it was Hillaire Belloc, a distributist, who once was debating with a succdem. The succdem, assuming the reason he didn't like Marxist socialism was opposition to violent revolution, pointed out that to achieve an actual state where the means of production are distributed to all, a revolution as, if not more, violent and authoritarian than the one in Russia would be required. Belloc basically replied 'yeah who the fuck cares liberal?'
I also mentioned this earlier in the thread; despite plenty of modern fascists praising the PRC, plenty also claim to hate violent socialist revolution. But clearly if you like ᴉuᴉlossnW, but wish he made a state like modern China- which is only itself by its incredibly violent revolution- you contradict yourself. What with that huh bud?
Back to you, CPUSAnon- I agree with all the rest of your post's points. Obviously if some fascists give a homeless man his first hot meal and dry place to sleep in days, and tells him 'we are all brothers in The Nation, we will never abandon you, long live fascism,' he isn't going to give a shit if you go up to him and well ackshually about the economic policies of Italy 90 years ago. This brings us back to the question of what the purpose of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.