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Materialist analysis of celebrities engaging in activism?

Recently, we’ve seen notable celebrities like Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo speak out against Trump and ICE. Their social media profiles are full of anti-ICE sentiment. Billie has also spoken out against billionaires despite being rich herself. So what’s going on here? Is there any chance that celebrities like Billie and Olivia can hold radical leftist political views? A lot of celebrities and musicians were involved in the 60s New Left, by comparison. Are we seeing a rebirth of this?
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Eilish is a Newsom supporter.

Fuck Billie Eilish and her Rosa-killer brother.

>>2673165 Petitboug just get carried with the current usually. If the proletariat is winning they join the cause of labour against the big capitalist class, if reaction is winning they join it against the proles to preserve their property

Right wing or left wing celebrity activism is the same waiting for some millionaire to save you people is insane brain rot that shows yoir just a petit bourgeoise loser

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>>2687236
amerikan celebrities are but purest distilation of fascism and bourgeois degeneracy that permeate entirety of genocidal settler euroamerikan formation which is wholly bourgeois



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the most recent Epstein file drop potentially implicating the creation of /pol/ with moot meeting with Epstein feels like it needs to have its own thread. it's pretty much an accepted fact at this point that Epstein played a key role in what seems to be a massive secret human trafficking ring that exists as a form of Mutually Assured Destruction to for the elites to maintain power, but what is currently a lesser-known and recent revelation is that circumstantial evidence indicating that the entire formation of the far-right was an astroturfing psyop by pedophile billionaires and the intelligence community.

in particular, this thread >>>/lgbt/3094 links even more damning evidence that the astroturfing of far-right politics has been intentionally perpetrated as a psyop to ensure that the Molochian demons in power have access to as many children to rape as possible. pedocon theory is not a meme at this point or even merely an own on the hypocrisy of the far-right; it arguably is a significant factor behind the existence of the far-right today.

https://dump.li/a/29c72d#x

https://archive.org/details/dark-web-playground-child-abuse-forum-leak-censored-posted-endchan-03.18.2025

while it's bordering on LARP to act like anything serious happens on this site, broadly speaking "the left" and especially leftists familiar with imageboard culture & history should be investigating and agitating more specifically on this matter. the purpose of this thread is to consolidate information on this and to crowdsource more investigative work in the Epstein files specifically on the issue of astroturfing the creation of the alt-right. if you are involved in any real life organizing of any kind you should be spreading this information far and wide for agitprop purposes.

the masses needs to know that there is no civil debate to be had with the right, nor is there even any particularly sophisticated leap in theory and critique one needs to make; the far-right is simply ontologically evil and we should be agitating on them all being controlled by human traffickers as hard as possible.
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>>2673417
can't stress enough how literally everything that is a revelation in these files is in this article, reddit, 4chan, bitcoin, microtransactions in gaming, israel, etc etc

>>2685607
>people crashing out about demonic satanist cannibals
yeeeeeep
I already consider the plot lost, this isn't radicalizing the workers, this is radicalizing the lumpen rightoids and lib PMC types, no surprises that when you frame it as a moral panic that no revolutionary sentiment will be born from it, only reaction

Some clever people found out that PayPal will give you the name of email address holders if they have been connected to a PayPal account for payment. This way we now know that the gynocologist Epstein was talking to who had his name but not email redacted in some of the mails is Mark Epstein, his brother.

>>2686990
the guy they talked about the gynocologist with'

not saying that he was the gyno, sorry

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>>2678436
>"At the World Economic Forum in Davos last week, I announced the creation, jointly with Merrill Lynch, of a Central and Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union Fund with a capital of between $1 and $2 billion. The Fund's goal is to assist with the region's economic development. Our primary focus is on the media, newspapers, and television."


Fucking Yakovlev



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A general to compile all news, articles, essays and info related to the Greater Middle East-North Africa region.

Creating this general in an effort to centralize all the info that currently gets posted to 5 different threads concerning conflicts and developments in the MENA region. Seeing how slow they generally are and at risk of getting bumped off besides the Palestine thread and that it’s likely people interested in Yemen, Syria, Iran, Sudan and Palestine are likely also interested in news and info from across the region I think it would be useful to post everything in one place.

This will be the inaugural edition to see how it goes. Welcome!
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>>2685937
Why would they? Their man is on Damascus.

>>2686430 (me)
>>2685937
Oh, if you mean back when, a 'no fly zone' was a Killary Hinton policy, back thrn we were worried that'd mean war with Russia in practical terms and its one of the things which sunk her.

In Afghanistan, a Trail of Hunger and Death Behind U.S. Aid Cuts

The U.S. aid cuts in Afghanistan were as sudden as they were brutal. Even after the U.S. withdrawal and the end of the war in 2021, the United States continued pouring money into Afghanistan. From the 2021 Taliban takeover until last year, Washington had provided nearly $1 billion annually — over a third of all aid flowing into one of the world’s poorest countries. That funding has all but evaporated with the dismantling of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

In 2024, the United States funded over half of Afghanistan’s nutrition and agricultural programs. Food insecurity has skyrocketed since last year’s cuts. More than 17 million Afghans — 40 percent of the population — now face acute levels of hunger, two million more than last year.

https://archive.is/hIUG1

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Maliki sistas………. resistard bros……………

>https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-holds-meeting-between-algeria-morocco-mauritania-over-western-sahara

why the HELL is the us suddenly interested in western sahara and in such secrecy? this is such a bizarre issue for trump to get involve in, specially considering moroccuck already controls all the resource rich regions, there's no active insurgency and trump already recognized moroccan sovereignty over it.
maybe some rich bitch just gave trump a couple of million dollars to get involved in?



 

Can someone explain why suddenly much of the entire left have suddenly decided that IP/Copyright is sacred and automation is bad?
They do realize that AI is probably the most important technological revolution in bringing about the material conditions for Socialism right? Combine it with cheap 3D printers in 10 years time and entire sectors of the economy are going to have their rate of profit absolutely annihilated. Yes, I will download that car thank you very much.
But suddenly swaths of the left is like "NOOOOOOO MY COPYRIGHT LAWS, MUH HUMAN INPUT OF LABOUR NOOOOOOOOO". The only leftist creators I've seen are pro Copyright are Haz and Peter Coffin, and they're both in this case, 100% correct from a Marxist or actual Socialist position.
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Why do i hate a technology that is almost entirely controlled by, and whose most enthusiastic supporters are, the most reactionary psychotic elements of capitalists, whose primary reason for being is to support law enforcement and genocidaires and an insane attempt to literally make as much of the working class superfluous as possible, and which the only value outside of this is to make bug laden code and generate tiresome, forgettable images, while burning so much resources it's completely undone all the work put into renewable energy, and provably makes people's brains less active and struggle with reasoning and creativity in study after study.


But oooooohhhh I get to piss off some liberal arts students, must be the second coming of MarxBot9000!

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because all AI bros are psychopaths who hate communists

>>2686823
Actually they made the bodies into beef jerkey appearently. The only thing Epstein ate most of the time.

Maybe if the body had STDs or something they'd acid them idk.

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>Combine it with cheap 3D printers in 10 years time and entire sectors of the economy are going to have their rate of profit absolutely annihilated. Yes, I will download that car thank you very much.
Idiots like you who don't understand the strengths and weaknesses of machine learning are why I'm anti-AI. None of what you described requires, benefits from, nor should risk, using "AI" tools.

There are legitimate productive applications of this technology. These are rare and are grossly neglected by almost the entire industry, in favor of wasting resources or pretending this can effectively replace workers. Get interested in piracy and FOSS instead of getting marketed to by desperate Porky.

also i can't believe I missed this, thanks >>2686974
>combine it with cheap 3D printers in 10 years time and entire sectors of the economy are going to have their rate of profit absolutely annihilated. Yes, I will download that car thank you very much.
as someone who actually does 3d printing you're a complete retard, 3d printing is very capital intense compared to mass production methods and if you aren't specifically applying them to their key areas you're just paying hundreds of dollars for a machine you'll never use.



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Why do MLs hate Trotsky so much? What takes did he have that makes MLs absolutely despise him? Wasn't he even endorsed by Lenin to be his successor? I feel like even major revisionists like Tito and Gorbachev don't get as much hate as Trotsky.
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>>2686487
This is just Stalinist propaganda.

>>2686312
>>2686432
Love how Anarchist cry about Trotsky killing them as somehow being unfair.
Like, obviously? They're opposite sides in a fucking war? The Kronstadt rebels and Makhnovites were trying to kill the Bolsheviks just as hard as the Bolsheviks were trying to kill the Anarchists.
Why do anarkiddies think the reds should have just lied down and given up for them?

>>2686637
Trotsky had nothing to do with Kronstadt though he did support it being crushed.

>>2686674
>Trotsky had nothing to do with Kronstadt
Who do you think issued the ultimatum to the rebels? Who ordered the attack?

>>2686256
I second this. Trotsky is a damn good writer in general, but History of the Russian Revolution is on still another level. Trotsky proves that Marxist history doesn't have to be strictly about statistics showing class formation and so on; instead he writes a vivid narrative history that puts the reader right in the middle of historic events, in a way which reminds me of John Reed's Ten Days That Shook the World. Then at the end of each chapter, he pulls out the statistics showing class formation and draws theoretical lessons from what took place. I actually think that the narrative Trotsky spins is very misleading in places (especially the stress he places on Lenin's April Theses being a supposed turning point for the party), but he tells it so damn well that I wholeheartedly recommend the book anyway.
>>2685701
Opposition to the Big Bang theory isn't just a Trotskyist thing, it's just that Alan Woods, permanent founder-leader of the most prominent Trot party today, opposes it on the basis of Engels' explicit philosophical opposition to a god-created finite universe (which in turn goes back to Holbach etc etc). In doing so he's following a long tradition of Marxists that are skeptical of the concept. I haven't studied this specifically, but I'm pretty damn sure that the Soviet academy under Stalin was also opposed to the Big Bang theory.

I fully support Woods speaking out against against cosmological orthodoxy (which is based on a lot less empirical evidence than you'd assume). What I oppose is being required to accept Woods's philosophy as some sort of prerequisite for political unity. Being forced to accept the great leader's views on subjects as distant as cosmology is an absurd example of everything that's wrong with socialist organizations today.

>>2686487
>>2686526
Having read a lot of Trotsky, that is absolutely something I could see him doing.



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The people who call all political opponents jewish influence ("judeo bolshevism") turned out to be just that after the release of the most recent epstein files.
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Every accusation is a confession.

>>2683464
And? So?

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Naw it’s just Zionism and fascism

>>2683464
Not surprising. Winston Churchill himself whines about “Judeo-Bolshevism” in the 1920s to manufacture popular support for Zionism as the “better” alternative.

>>2687154
Proofs?



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Fabian Lehr: Die Epstein-Files und die ganz normale Barbarei der bürgerlichen Gesellschaft

>>2685117
Fabian Lehr macht so unfassbaren cookie cutter content für Kommunist:innen, dass ich mich manchmal frage wieso eine gewisse Sektion an Linken den überhaupt so krass abfeiern. Liegt es an seiner Art Informationen in dieser monotonen Stimme wiederzugeben?

>>2685145
Gib mal Kostprobe, ich kenne ihn noch nicht.

>>2672248
damn, this is sad.
Stay strong, fam

Es gibt einen besonders doofen Streit in der linken Szene. Ich nenne mal keine Namen, denn der Streit selber ist älter als diese Leute, und benenne stattdessen die impliziten unterschiedlichen Definitionen dahinter.

Gruppe A:
A1. Demokratie ohne Adjektiv davor: Herrschaft der Massen.
A2. bürgerliche Demokratie: Einschränkung dieser Massenherrschaft wenn es um Eigentumsprivilegien geht. Formell geschieht das durch Hürden (qualifizierte Mehrheiten von 2/3 oder höher, Beteiligungsquoren), Ausbremsen (Einschnitte in Privateigentum müssen mehrfach abgesegnet werden von verschiedenen Gruppen), oder auch Totalverbot (Ewigkeitsklauseln zum Schutz des Eigentums).

Gruppe B:
B1. Kommunismus als Ziel: Eine Gesellschaft ohne Klassen (hier kann Konsens sein mit Gruppe A)
B2. Staat: Apparat, mit der die herrschende Klasse den Rest unterdrückt. Dies wird gesetzt nicht als eine Aufgabe des Staates oder die Hauptaufgabe, sondern als alles, was den Staatsapparat ausmache.
B3: Demokratie: Eine Methode, wie der Staat organisiert sein kann. Und nur der Staat.

Wenn man B1 und B2 nimmt, dann ergibt sich ganz banal daraus, dass im entwickelten Kommunismus der Staat abgestorben ist. Und legen wir B3 dazu, dann löst sich auch die Frage in Luft auf, ob diese zukünftige Welt demokratisch organisiert sein soll. Das erscheint jemandem aus Gruppe B wie die Frage, ob ein Glatzkopf sich das Kopfhaar rot färben soll. Und so wundert sich ein Mensch der Gruppe B über die Dummheit der Außenstehenden.

Die impliziten Definitionen sind exotisch und deshalb, und nur deshalb, ist die Debatte zwischen A und B für normale Menschen wirr. Und wenn man das explizit macht, was bleibt dann noch zu debattieren übrig?

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9th Edition: THE SITE FUCKING CRASHED LMAO edition.

A lot of images and posts of the last general got broken. So I think it's better to make a new one.

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Coming 2024 Elections, open orgs, People that should be dead for different reasons running in Malaysia's elections or just random shit. There are still dozens of us… hopefully! Starting off this general with massive wave of cult sex camps.
Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org

Last threads:
https://archive.ph/5rqox
https://archive.is/Jlc7A
http://archive.is/0NhJH
http://archive.is/nDq1K
https://archive.vn/cxwty
https://archive.is/ayshz
https://archive.is/2NLO8
https://archive.is/3f5Rf
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>>2682190
Military will win. What with the war and bombings down south.

>>2682190
People's Party looks like they might win big

>>2684841
Looks like PP got cooked. Thailand is becoming the sick man of SEA.

>>2682267 (me)
Told you.

>>2686564
>Thailand is becoming the sick man of SEA.
why?



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/PRC/ People's Republic of China 20🇨🇳
>Deng Xiaoping Edition
Original threads:
https://archive.ph/S2XYA
https://archive.ph/Ytckv

leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html

bunekrchan.xyz archives:
https://archive.is/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/8925.html
https://archive.is/yrBUN
https://archive.is/pCecr
previous thread: >>2586643
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>>2686669
DotP cops are reasonable.

What’s the CPC’s stance on the Jewish Question?

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Holding up half the sky (and sometimes more than that) is not easy but someone has to do it.

>>2687056
I think women are biologically better fighter pilots. But for me? Hairy oiled men from Sichua-, ok I'll stop 😝

>>2686463
>Wage slavery in the third world for the developed nations is good



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American's largest foreign project is an ethnic cleansing.

What should be done about this?

The United States provided for 70% of Israel's military costs during the IDF's rampage through Gaza

Israel's crimes would be impossible without American military aid.

How much responsibility for those crimes does the American government bear?
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>>2686967
That's another project the chosenites are doing
https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Freedman

>>2686967
They're just trying to get revenge against the entire male gender, chud.

>>2687008
Amerimutt “working class” should be massacred along with the capitalists unironically

>>2687037
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