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Transitions between modes of production are of an uncertain nature. They are not always brought about by revolution, reform, or planning, but sometimes by a combination of all 3, or by blind historical forces operating over several centuries.

The transition from primitive communism to slavery, and the transition from slavery to serfdom were neither brought about through the planning of the ruling class, nor through revolution, but through unplanned historical changes over several centuries. The notion that modes of production always (rather than merely sometimes) transform through deliberate revolution is ahistorical projection of the bourgeois revolutions forward in history. What history shows is that modes of production do exist and do change, but whether they change through revolution, reform, or in a totally unplanned way over a long period of time, is up to local material conditions.
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>>2690668
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2017/07/28/why-no-roman-industrial-revolution/

Why no Roman industrial revolution?

In my last post I repeated Marx’s phrase the the hand mill gave you the feudal lord the steam mill the industrial capitalist. One reader objected that this overstated the role of technology and that steam power was already known to the Romans. I concede that Marx over simplified. There were thousands of water mills in England recorded in the Domesday book. So ownership of water mills was a key part of the power of the feudal lords. A better phrase would have been that the water mill brings you the feudal lord the steam mill the industrial capitalist. But to return to the original question.

The ancient Romans already had a working steam turbine in Hero’s aeolipile. Why were they not able to turn this to use in industry, pumping water or turning millstones?

Why no industrial revolution in antiquity?

There are well known arguments about the social relations of slavery impeding the development of labour saving technology, but is this enough of an explanation?

We know that the ancients harnessed the power of water for grinding corn and other industrial uses, so they were not completely indifferent to artificial sources of power.

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>>2695588
> this was not a political battle, but rather a claim of personal freedom by exile.
the third servile war was absolutely a political battle. deploying the military to crush a slave revolt and then crucify the survivors along the appian way is absolutely political

similar topic >>2728765

>>2686845
This is all true, but there are certain definite material changes we can fight for to help speedup the advance out of wage slavery most of them being listed in the manifesto.

>>2697831
Paul ererctionejection right as usual



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>Previous Thread
>>2731864

<Pool's Closed Edition


Operation Epic Fail started on February 28 2026
Post all Iran related content in here.

Latest News
>Iran is resisting
<Trump is fuming
>Hormuz is closed
<Large explosion in Qods city that looks like nuke but probably isn't
>Ukraine sent drone specialists to UAE (confirmed)

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>>2734182
>they think war is just like playing wii sport
explains so much of their hilarious incompetence

>>2734161
Hanoi? I think you mean Ho Chi Minh City fucking idiot jesus christ

>>2734182
I'm so fucking tired.

Hey kings, the gulf is leaking 🛢️🛢️🛢️

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Crude_Oil_Pipeline



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2733065
My theory is he takes her out a lot as like a role-model for young Korean women. Like an idol, but for Juche and based instead of cringe.
I hope she joins the military.

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>>2733902
forgot pics hurrdurr

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Central Zoo, a cultural and emotional base for the people
The Central Zoo, a cultural and emotional base for the people, has improved its service environment, adding joy to those who visit.
Recently, zoos have been making use of connecting vehicles for visitors to ensure their convenience by normalizing operations.

Each vehicle, decorated like a flower cart, is decorated with the characters of cartoons familiar to our children, so anyone who gets on this connecting vehicle will find their childlike heart revived and they will be immersed in a cheerful mood.
The connecting car, which is designed to carry dozens of people at a time, provides service by traveling from the aquarium to the gift shop, and people can comfortably sit in the connecting car and view the wide area of ​​the zoo.
The unique garden landscapes spread throughout the zoo add to the joy of people.

The Central Zoo bears the marks of Comrade Kim Jong Un 's devotion to the people.
On March 11, 2014, the respected Comrade General Secretary visited the Central Zoo, which was being renovated, and instructed that the newly built structures, including the penguin house, should be constructed in a way that suits the ecological characteristics of the animals and that the convenience of visitors should be maximized.
He said that all the objects under construction, including the aquarium, should be transformed into pleasant places of rest that bring laughter and joy to the people.
The zoo's staff, upholding the will of the respected General Secretary , who takes a deep interest in the cultural and emotional lives of our people , are continuing to work to create better service conditions and an improved environment. (End)

>>2734101
Cute and wholesome.

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How do Amerikkkans think they shall ever beat well organised workers who have bent the state and the economy to their will?
Explain like i'm 5.
A rally of young vanguard members to implement the decisions of the 9th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea.
A rally of the youth vanguard to implement the decisions of the 9th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea was held on the 10th at the Pyongyang Youth Park Outdoor Theater.
Comrade Ju Chang-il , Secretary of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea, Youth League workers, young students from Pyongyang, and members of the Baekdu Mountain Hero Youth Shock Brigade participated.
Comrade Moon Chol, Chairman of the Central Committee of the Socialist Patriotic Youth League, gave a speech.

The speaker mentioned that all young people should take to task the implementation of the new five-year plan, bearing in mind the fundamental ideas and spirit of the Party Congress, which aimed to consolidate the achievements of the struggle that pioneered the era of comprehensive development and to lead to even higher results.
He mentioned that he cherishes as the greatest honor the great trust of his respected father , Marshal Kim Jong Un, who put forward the youth as reliable forces who will shoulder the future destiny and future of the Party, the revolution, the country and the people , and that all youth league workers and members should fulfill their mission and duty as the Party's reliable advance force and wing unit.

He said that we must continue to build up the momentum that has responded to the Party's call with a fierce wave of petitions, make leaps and bounds on the difficult and arduous fronts of socialist construction, and continuously create new miracles and feats in every great upsurge.
All speakers appealed to the public to redouble their courage and the honor of being the youth vanguard of the great Kim Jong-un era , and to vigorously display the spirit and dignity of patriotic youth in the struggle to realize the new prospective goals pointed out by the 9th Congress of the Party.

There were resolution discussions.
At the convention, an oath to respected father , Marshal Kim Jong- un, was adopted.
Then, the torchlight march of young students began.



 

Instead of abolishing the petty bourgeoisie, the petty bourgeoisie will simply be (knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, it does not matter) brought into the fold of monopoly capital, the same way peripheral nations were brought into the fold of imperialism. The total horizontal and vertical integration of capital is not complete, but I will give you a simple anecdote illustrating my point. I had a coworker ask ChatGPT what I thought was a naive question. He asked ChatGPT a question about the small business we worked out, and it knew way more than we possibly expected. It had hyper specialized knowledge on our practices and our ways of doing things. It wasn't necessarily doxxing workers, but it was creepy how much it knew. In the 20th century companies did everything they could to prevent "corporate espionage" and "intellectual property theft" but with LLMs that very process has essentially become legalized because it is useful to everyone. And the workers willingly participate in it. They paste their own company's source code into a monopoly's LLM just to speed up a bug fix. Well where does that lead? And btw I don't work at a software company. Chat GPT was answering questions about arcane manual labor procedures at my company… how did it know? Someone must have willingly given it that knowledge at some point to abridge some labor process for themselves. If all this development and accumulation is shattered due to climate change in WW3 where will that leave us? I have no idea. We are cursed to live in interesting times. And the tech becomes more sophisticated and self governing as the people themselves become more ignorant and less technically skilled… it is as if Arthur Clarke's rule about technology and magic is proving itself true not just through the sophistication of the tech itself, but through the dumbing down and hyper-narrowly-focused-specialization of the very people who are building it.



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A ‘Great Recession for white-collar workers’ is absolutely possible

https://fortune.com/2026/03/06/ai-job-losses-report-anthropic-research-great-recession-for-white-collar-workers/

https://www.anthropic.com/research/labor-market-impacts


its over, AI is going to decimate the PMC class and take their jerbs
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>>2727175

>>2728789

The vanguard of every revolution has been disaffected intelligentsia. Despite how much Lenin praised the proletariat and how much Mao praised the peasantry, they never would have accomplished anything without the educated and underemployed. If masses of intelligentsia lose their jobs, that is a very good thing for revolutionary potential.

>>2729193
Sure, but the Western left has no shortage of intelligentsia.

I do imagine the "UBI" solution could backfire by giving potential revolutionary classes enough leisure time to organise instead of being perennially exhausted

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>>2728032
a manga's gonna oversimplify, don't have a cow, maaaaan

>>2728813
The mode of production switching is what galvanizes revolution. The Marxists of the past were doing wishful thinking that the mode of production was switching earlier than it was in reality. But now with the rise of AI the mode of production is absolutley switching and the more superfluous the working class becomes it diminishes the exchange value that underpins all hirearchy. The bourgeois is outnumbered vastly by the proles and once all their monopoly money becomes worthless nothing can stop their destruction.

>>2727175
Couldnt these be doumbfounded expectations based on the fact that AI is currently the biggest financial bubble in, at least, recent history? I am asking honestly here. Certainly, there are a lot of piggies who really want that graph to be real, so i suspect that there is a lot of capitalist hope and optimism influencing these prospects



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>>2535127

So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?
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emancipate yourselves, willing slaves of amerikkkans

>>2732243
that won't happy until multipolarity and the empire is killed

>>2712820
>eu ruling class will give anything up to kill third worlders with america
not just the ruling class im afraid. Trump couldve followed through on greenland and 450 million spooked eurocattle would still cry out and beg for protection against le russian ziggers and sharia law within a week. Neanderthal brained tribalism to the last labor aristocrat.
>>2732243
>willing slaves
thats an oxymoron

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The EU is just an international job program for us

>>2733931
made in abyss is garbage



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Recent news:
SDF rejects the agreement and vows that they'd fight.
Prison break in Shaddad, freeing ~1000 ISIS veterans.
Aqtan prison (which houses ISIS members) north of Raqqa gets besieged.
Clashes in Kobani & Hasakah countrysides.
Breach in Al-Hol camp, which is now mostly emptied.
New agreement signed by both the STG & SDF.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
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>>2703568
Their only path to continue existing was a proper alliance with the Ba'athists, which was also the only way for the Ba'athist government to keep existing.

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>>2704116
How could they be allied with both Assad and the USA. All of this was completely predictable. I've been telling you that allying with the US was not going to be a path to a longterm socialist project, but Rojava stans didn't want to listen. Now the US is throwing away Rojava like a used condom.

Now their only path is working with Pershmarga(which will require giving them more authority)

Dr Nicholas Matheou, Turkey's Neo-Ottomanism vs. Greater Israel

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'Salih Muslim was a revolutionary for the Kurdish cause'
Yesterday, Salih Muslim, a member of the Co-Presidency of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), was martyred in a hospital in Erbil. His friends and relatives spoke to our agency.
Deputy Co-Chair of the Kobanê City Council of the Kurdistan Region, Mizgin Xelîl, expressed her condolences to the family of martyr Salih Muslim and said: "Yesterday, a national figure reached the level of martyrdom, we were saddened by his martyrdom. We extend our condolences to the people of Kurdistan and the people of Rojava, to the family of martyr Salih Muslim."

Mizgin Xelîl stated that Salih Muslim was always in the struggle for the cause of the Kurdish people and said: "Martyr Salih was in the struggle and resistance despite his advanced age and never abandoned the line of resistance. Salih Muslim fought for the unity of the Kurds his entire life. Everyone should support his cause."
Co-chair of the Kobanê Civil Society Organization, Nebo Temo, stated that it is not enough to mention the work of martyr Salih Muslim and said: "I have known Salih Muslim since the 1990s. From that time until today, he has been working and working."
Nebo Temo said that Muslim had educated himself on the philosophy of Leader Abdullah Öcalan and said: "We must also uphold the legacy of the martyr Salih Muslim and continue the cause he set for himself. Salih Muslim was the father of martyrs and was himself a martyr."

Comrade Salih Muslim Ahmed Pir said he was proud of Salih Muslim's martyrdom and said: "In the personality of comrade Salih Muslim, we see struggle and resistance for the Kurdish cause. When one looked at him, one's heart ached for freedom and one was happy."
Ahmed the Elder promised that he would be Salih Muslim's successor and said: "We will fulfill the dreams and aspirations of comrade Salih."
Salih Muslim's relative, Muslim Muslim, also said about the struggle of the martyr Salih Muslim: "We opened our eyes. Salih Muslim was in the movement and fought for the Kurdish cause. He spent his life in struggle and fought for the rights of the Kurdish people until the last moment of his life, and his dream and ambition was the freedom of the Kurdish people."

YPJ: Salih Muslim is the standard of true patriotism
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Parasitism

  1. Avoid doing anything that you don’t want to do yourself, with one exception.
  2. You shouldn't help people with more resources than you, with one exception.
  3. You should constantly engage in anti-society actions.
  4. You mustn't have bad habits, nothing should make you weak.
  5. You should be a romantic person and live only for ideas about the destruction of society.

The exception mentioned is revolution, in which case you should be directly involved. The point of Parasitism is to weaken the bourgeois and redistribute to the people, essentially a cryptorevolution via the war machine of fraud and embezzlement in preparation for the word soviet.

Economic tenets of Parasitism:

  1. Unsustainability
  2. Incestuousness
  3. Fraud
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>>2733460
based
based
based

>>2733460
How do you kill the parasite of the world? You become the parasite's parasite.

>>2733600
Precisely.

>>2733460
>Guide to becoming a Parasite
Be born into a bourgeoisie family.

>>2733679
Kek. But there IS more to it. It is to emulate the parasitism of the bourgeoisie in order to defeat the bourgeoisie.



 

How exactly are you supposed to overthrow the government of the most powerful country on Earth with a legally registered above ground organization where members don't hide their affiliation and which can never ever ever commit a crime? I don't support adventurism or terrorism or firebombing a Walmart or useless political assassinations that only have symbolic results. But revolution is still illegal and actually successfully accomplishing a real revolution involves committing countless crimes, often violent ones, and requires being actually capable of withstanding extremely intense state repression. The "left" in Western countries seems stuck in an eternal malaise where it struggles to accomplish virtually anything. Why? Let's look at the Western left. You either have glorified liberal NGOs with red flags doing an endless bullshit loop of holding up signs and selling newspapers or fighting losing battles to get tiny NLRB contracts, or ocassionally you have a schizophrenic anarchist/symbionese liberation army cult doing nothing but adventurism and firebombing walmarts. I posit that this malaise is because making a left-wing party is legal in liberal democracies, so any normal left wing party is lured to become a "legal" organization with all that entails. The exceptions in Western society naturally tend towards pure adventurism. I think the Bolsheviks actually significantly benefited from being an illegal underground party through most of the course of their existence. They had to learn the organizational tools to genuinely learn to survive state repression, to act decisively, and to build dual power without resorting to mindless suicidal adventurism. A revolution is not legal, so why would you try to accomplish the most brazenly illegal act of all (overthrowing the government) with a defanged legal organization? If the government decided to to a second Red Scare tomorrow, all these orgs would instantly evaporate. We need to go underground before being a communist is illegal and not after.
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>>2730093
Because i would be put on a terrorist watchlist immediately after ordering the said materials to construct it.

vanguardism can't be purely legal,
or purely illegal.
it has to be a mixture of both!
at least in most standard accounts…
read lenin!
if you think about it, organized crime syndicates are bourgeois leninism. they do both legal activity (business fronts) and illegal activity (racketeering, prostitution, murder for hire, drug dealing, smuggling, etc.)
they use the illegal activity to fund the legal activity.
bolsheviks did the same.

>>2730093
What does that have to do with communism?

>>2728047
The participation of communists in a bourgeois election aims to gather the strength of radicalized workers, as a method to spread propaganda to the masses to lose faith in bourgeois democracy, so that radical reforms that prevent capital from accumulating with imperialism abroad or intensifying the exploitation of workers within the country, leading to a capitalist state in crisis, can occur, in order to intensify the class struggle instead of pacification. An example of such a program is the defense of guaranteed public employment, forced unionization of all workers, ensuring that all labor rights apply to all workers, ending the more intense exploitation of informal work, equalizing union wages and radically democratizing these unions by removing all barriers to union radicalization imposed by the bourgeois state or capitalist influence, guaranteeing the right to legal action for all workers to defend their rights with all costs passed on to the capitalist and the bourgeois state, guaranteeing solidarity in defending the labor rights of another worker, with all capitalists exploiting any worker being obliged to compensate that worker along with the union and the state, plus fines, and this will apply to everything and will be done so that capitalists go bankrupt to be collectivized and nationalized since they will be competing with state-owned companies in the market, which intends to cheapen consumer products in order to deliberately bankrupt private companies.

Another program that communists should defend in a bourgeois election is the nationalization of all banks, because no bank should have any independence or be free from politics. A workers' statistics council without "technocrats" will control inflation by balancing workers' wages with the price of food and workers' consumption so that no costs are passed on to the workers. Cheap credit will be used to benefit cooperatives, state-owned companies, and workers, and to indebt capitalists so they can be expropriated. All money abroad will be cut off for puppets of financial capital, both in weapons and debt, including non-profit organizations, to foster solidarity with workers worldwide. A country's public debt should be reviewed, as should all contracts with capitalists, prioritizing non-payment of the debt and abolishing any fiscal responsibility or spending cap used as an excusePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2678397
Prove him wrong and name a third world revolution that led to AES (Nepal did not)



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Khmer Rouge appreciation thread. I unironically believe that Pol Potism, along with Hoxhaism, is the ideal form of communism, and one of the only ways in which true communism can be achieved. We must be self-sufficient, able to produce our own food, and without the desire for property, if we are ever going to achieve communism beyond socialism.



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