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>>2645841 (archive it when it's full)

Quick run-down: Unlike previous mass protests in Iran the current ones were caused primarily by crushing economic conditions rather than civil rights, and so they carry undeniable proletarian character and potential. The true scale of the protests is hard to confirm due to conflicting imperialist propaganda, however the staggering death toll in such a short period dwarfs the previous protests.


Recent reports from the streets by Worker-Communist Party of Iran (Hekmatist) translated from Farsi (Jan. 7-13)

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>>2658022
>It was still cheap
you are not a serious person

>>2658031
It was a pretty flimsy pretext, we've also had demonstrations over "perfidious chinese buying up our land", local bourgs afraid of competition

We have 11% inflation rate and prices have quadrupled since then, but no riots.

If a movement is not explicitly communist, then it's inter-bourgeois ops.

I'm glad they didn't succeed, being ruled by nazarbayevs wahhabist failnephews would have been worse

>>2657998
i am not attacking or criticizing iranian communists or being a campist, i am attacking (you) as a person and (you) as a individual, ultroid ziorat!


>>2658036
>It was a pretty flimsy pretext
i guess it seem that way to someone whos biggest expenses are probably fast food video games and porn
>>2658040
hey remember when you stole a tweet and posted it here word for word and then deleted it f@ggot



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Where did the chinese century go?






The body was too short or empty.
OKThe body was too short or empty.
On The body was too short or empty.
OK
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>>2656823
Going to be another crackdown on the alphabet mafia in the future

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>>2657697
No that's not

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>>2657960
This has happened in the West since the 1970s, China is in their 1970s… in the 2020s

Aren't the birthrates pitiful in the entire world except for Africa thoughbeit

>>2657966
Yea, the future is Black Maoism, unironically



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>To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.

- Engels, Letter to Otto Von Boenigk In Breslau, August 21, 1890

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm

"I can't help but believe that in the future we will see in the United States and throughout the Western world an increasing trend toward the next logical step, employee ownership. It is a path that befits a free people." - Ronald Reagan?!

https://www.cesj.org/about-cesj-in-brief/history-accomplishments/pres-reagans-speech-on-project-economic-justice/

This is a thread about organizing cooperatives. It is not about debating the merits or lack thereof of cooperatives. I understand there are critiques of cooperatives, and how they are not enough to bring about proletarian revolution. The same is true of unions, but I still support the creation of unions and worker-owned cooperatives as part of a multi-pronged strategy.

Resources (feel free to add)
https://www.theselc.org/cooperatives-resources
https://www.theselc.org/bite-sized-law
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>>2634626
any cooperatives willing to excessively exploit themselves,and even then they can't just have turn over to get rid of the workers that no longer have anything to squeeze from

the type of industry or place doesn't matter,since in the real world managers (ie,people employed by the "leader")are the one commanding those structures,so what's the real difference ?

and like the other said,the inevitability of capital consolidation happens because of the rate of profit declining,and even if it's steady,it's FAR from having killed small bussiness entirely

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Huawei, one of the world's largest Worker-Owned-Cooperatives.

>>2654233
Half of its employees are foreigners with no right to participate in collective ownership.

>>2654251
Chat is this true?

>>2634626
Cooperatives have lower agency costs (no absentee owners extracting value), higher trust and information flow, longer planning horizons, willingness to operate at lower but steadier margins, resistance to enshittification and short-term extraction.

These advantages compound in certain industries. Cooperatives consistently are able to compete in agriculture, utilities, infrastructure, natural monopolies. Even in finance you have credit unions which are basically the banking version of a cooperative.



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Marx taught us that "the weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism by weapons." In their terminally online struggles, multipolaristas mistake inter-imperialist squabbles for the forward march of history. You cheer for a "multipolar world" and the "decline of the West," paying respect to the very idealism Marx and Engels went over in the German Ideology. Worse yet, you imagine Stalin as a patron saint of your geopolitical game of Risk.

But Stalin was not a diplomat of the status quo. He looks upon Putin and Xi and sees not a counter-weight to American hegemony, but a farce.

The dialectic does not care for your cope.
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>>2656926
>the decay of unipolarity is a step forward.
Where is teh proofs?

I just think multipolarity will happen at some point as a matter of fact and we need to plan around it, not that it is preferable to struggle to bring it about, as if we can influence policy that much anyway at this point.

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>Stalin was not a diplomat of the status quo
Say that again

>>2656968
Do you believe unipolarity exists?

>>2656992
Never existed



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Do multipoltards realize that two of their main positions are straight up contradictory?

The idea that:
>American empire must collapse to achieve communism.
And
>American proletarians have no revolutionary potential.
Being somewhat compatible is impossible.

How does America collapses and then a continuation of that geographical pole of economic influence doesn't appear again? What exactly is the way that the continental mass that was once called the United States of America doesn't become, by virtue of their natural resources, industrial machinery and population, an economic powerhouse again?

I personally think that the way to stop this would be for a socialist America to happen, that way, an imperial, capitalist nation won't take its place, but in order for that to happen we would need a proletariat revolution to take its place which automatically implies that the American working class is revolutionary.
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Same way socialism came to (half of) Germany, by having its fascist government being defeated, territory devided and nation conquered by a socialist state. duhh

Thread is more proof most people need to return to the basics, all this geopolitical multipolarity content slop has people running around saying random words they hear like “third-worldism” without understanding the political currents they’re even speaking about

>>2657090
Oooohhhhhh I'm partnooooooooring
I'm strooooooootegically partnooooooring

>>2657098
Geopolitics is bourgeois politics



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🇮🇳 General thread for ETERNAL INDIA
<CPI centenary edition
On the hundredth year anniversary of the Communist Party of India, we wish happiness to the comrades around the world.

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On Sunday, the National General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (CPI), D Raja, said the Communist Party of India’s 100-year journey was a “glorious path of struggles and sacrifices” rooted in the freedom movement and the cause of the people.
Speaking at the concluding ceremony of the CPI’s centenary celebrations held in Khammam town, Telangana, Raja recalled that the CPI was formed on December 26, 1925, at a time when India was under colonial rule.


He said the party, from its inception, declared complete independence as its goal and remained in the forefront of the country’s freedom struggle.
Calling it a historic moment, he noted that the centenary programme drew participation from delegates and comrades from several countries. He mentioned the presence of a representative from Nepal and foreign delegates from countries including China, Vietnam, Korea and others, reflecting the party’s international solidarity.

Raja asserted that both the CPI and the Congress played key roles in the freedom struggle, and questioned the role of the RSS during the independence movement. “Those who did not participate in the freedom struggle have no moral right to claim credit today,” he said.

Highlighting CPI’s ideological position, he said the party stood not only as communists but also as internationalists, extending solidarity to people fighting for rights and freedom across the world. Referring to the situation in Palestine, Raja expressed concern over civilian suffering and reiterated support for an independent Palestine and a two-state solution in line with UN resolutions.



He also criticised the policies of the Centre, alleging that India’s global standing had weakened in recent years. Raja accused the Modi government of succumbing to pressure from the United States and corporate interests, and called for resisting what he described as imperialist forces.
He said the communists had played an important role in building post-Independence India, especially in strengthening public sector undertakings and planned development, and urged continued struggle to protect national interests.
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>BJP won Maharashtra by a landslide
How did they keep doing this

>>2657596
Muh muslims or something?

>>2657698
Partially but the INC coalition partner in Maharashtra are also Hindutva lite chauvinists created specifically to break organized left in Mumbai (yes, this is the state of politics in India, you fight fascism with other fascists) and they still lost badly, not even able to capture a majority of lower caste, Buddhist or Muslim voters. Absolute impotent performance



 

i find that a lot of leftist discourse is very idealistic, like "X won't exist in our perfect communist society so engaging with it is counter-revolutionary", ie "sex work won't exist, so there's no need to engage with it" or "small businesses won't exist so engaging with them is wrong" or "drugs will be banned under communism, so engaging with the people who consume them is wrong"

This makes for easy theory posting and internet debates, but is really bad for actually engaging in material real world praxis because we do not live under the society we want to create, and the time it will take to create the envisioned society is literally multiple lifetimes, ie even if revolution happened tomorrow, the task of creating the society we want doesn't end, if anything, that's when it really begins. it's this idea that communism is a static utopia that will mysteriously happen in the future. This line of thinking ignores that communism will emerge dialectically from the contradictions of capitalism. This utopianism is ultimately the very counter-revolutionary thought it claims to defend against.

my honest opinion is that engaging in utopianism is significantly easier than engaging in materialism, especially if one is constrained by their material conditions, or consumed by a sense of hopeless nihilism. I think that's also why I piss people off so much, because there's proof that I've been able to *something*, and any amount of *something* is more than nothing, and that's in spite of my own material conditions being well, poverty and struggle. Which means that someone who has more comfort, more resources, more stability should be able engage in praxis too, but the fear of action paralyzes. Praxis means working with imperfect allies, making tactical compromises, making mistakes, failing, being embarrassed, taking losses, trying new things, applying theory dialetically and getting dirty. Utopianism keeps your hands clean and your theory pure. People with clean hands are disgusted by people with dirty ones.

the only thing standing between the comfortable leftist and material praxis is their own choice.
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What if there were anonymous shitposters on leftypol that did praxis
But didn't brag about it or ask for donations

>>2657346
Well let's face it man, there's only so many reasons you wouldn't
>You don't like attention and keep a low profile. Possibly autistic and prob aren't a serious threat to the system
>You're a pussy. You don't wanna risk being incriminated for wrong think let alone wrong action, thereby keep a low profile and while that might be smart short term, it also means you are the easiest to compromise

It is natural to the human condition to want benefit. Be it physical benefit of donations or higher yearnings like ego boosts and praise.

Pic very related because let's say you were face to face with this gorgeous bitch whose wrong about everything.
>She knows you steal from Target. Scalping those pokemon cards to sell as singles, free money for the revolution and by revolution I mean you can pay your bills
>Assuming she doesn't just scream to garner mob attention over what's barely a misdemeanor, she won't sleep with you at the very least
>Sad… That's prime rib cunny lost to ideology. Zizak/Jesus wept.
>You know what would make you feel better? A Paypal donation to the ACP, or your discord channel full of other nerds saying she's a libshit and all the other leftists have a septum theory of value and maybe one of them will suck your peepee
>I mean you could just lie but that doesn't mean you gonna impregnate. Lying will just guarantee she leaves you alone. IE you're the coward or the autist.
>To take the lie further just for her delightful loins would be a detriment to you because you can only lie for so long because holy shit she's dumb. You'll either break and punch her or end up lying to yourself and find yourself becoming the reactionary.
>What ever will you do Che Guevara?

They're probably feds trying to cripple the left by making it completely irrelevant and out of touch.

>>2657093
>the time it will take to create the envisioned society is literally multiple lifetimes, ie even if revolution happened tomorrow, the task of creating the society we want doesn't end, if anything, that's when it really begins
yes i keep telling that to the puritanical dumbasses on here. Let's read some theory that says the same thing:

<What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm


<Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.


Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism, 1847

<To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.


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>>2657093
>"sex work won't exist, so there's no need to engage with it"
>"small businesses won't exist so engaging with them is wrong"
>"drugs will be banned under communism, so engaging with the people who consume them is wrong"
Boring, but I'll bite since I don't feel like grading papers right now:
Who says this?!
I swear half of the posts on this site sound like AI hallucinations for how completely disconnected they are from what literally anyone is saying. Or hell, what do you even mean by "engaging" anyways. Do you mean recruiting from those segments, adopting their ideas, struggling with them, or just talking with them? The weaselly way you use that word reflects the audacious dishonesty of this entire strawman "argument".

Sex work is inherently coercive and must be abolished. It's not a career, it's rape. Sex workers are lumpen and their right to life and safety should be defended, women's councils should be formed and armed to enforce this violently if need be, while pimps and Johns should be lynched.
The petty bourgeoisie cannot be relied on to be anything approaching a revolutionary class as a whole, especially in first world settler colonial contexts where their entire way of life relies on imperialism. Some few individuals in this class might place politics first and commit class suicide, but this isn't a behavior that can be relied on to be carried out with any kind of mass consistency. You cannot sweet talk a small business owner into supporting the revolution in any genuine way while remaining in their class position. Struggle where you can, but never get your hopes up.
Lastly, I don't think there's ever been a consistent communist position on drugs beyond "the masses should be clear-headed while decisions need to be made". I certainly don't know of anyone who has advocated that communists not "engage" with anyone who partakes in drug usage, especially since that's not an internally cohesive group in any meaningful way when you investigate it. What drugs are done is different along class lines, but drug usage has been shown to be a pretty universal practice across all class strata, maybe somewhat more prevalent among the bourgeois classes. It would be obviously meaningPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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After withdrawal of SDF | Members and families of IS*IS smuggled from Al-Hawl Camp
Al-Hawl Camp in Al-Hasakah countryside witnessed organized smuggling operations of ISIS members and families after the withdrawal of SDF from the camp that has held ISIS cells for many years, after the “International Coalition” forces refused demands of SDF to interfere to stop the attacks by local armed groups of the Syrian authority on the vicinity of the camp. According to local SOHR sources, smuggling networks took advantage of the security chaos and withdrawal of SDF to smuggle detaineea through several routes.
https://www.syriahr.com/en/376653/

Jerusalem churches denounce Christian Zionism as betrayal of faith
Christians made up around 12.5 percent of the population of historic Palestine before 1948, compared with roughly 1.2 percent today across Israel and the occupied territories. During the war on Gaza, churches were repeatedly bombed and at least 44 Palestinian Christians were killed, according to the committee. Zionist organisations, some of them funded by the Israeli government, including Ataret Cohanim, continue efforts to take control of church-owned properties near the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem’s Old City, close to the Christian and Armenian quarters.
https://www.newarab.com/news/jerusalem-churches-accuse-zionism-hijacking-christianity

Sadr urges Iraqi factions to set aside differences as 'great danger' looms from Syria
Sadr called on political parties to focus on what he described as mounting dangers, warning of severe consequences if divisions persist. “Leave your conflicts and your competition over this fleeting world… and pay attention to the dangers surrounding you… for neither God nor history will have mercy on you,” he said, as he appealed for unity amid regional instability.
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/180120261

Museveni’s son threatens Bobi Wine after Uganda election
Uganda’s General Muhoozi Kainerugaba issued the threat on Tuesday just daysPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

US justice department subpoenas Minnesota Democrats accused of impeding ICE efforts
A copy of a subpoena to the office of the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frey, obtained by the Guardian, requests guidance and policies related to immigration enforcement in Minnesota since last year. It also requests communication regarding those policies with other state agencies, as well as documents related to “hindering, doxxing, identifying, or surveilling immigration officers”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/20/minnesota-democrats-subpoenas-justice-department

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani and US Sen. Bernie Sanders rally with nurses on ninth day of strike
The democratic socialists, speaking to a boisterous crowd of nurses in front of Mount Sinai West on the Upper West Side, called on hospital executives to return to the negotiating table to resolve the contract impasse that prompted some 15,000 nurses to walk off the job last week.
https://apnews.com/article/nursing-strike-new-york-bernie-sanders-mayor-mamdani-c6a23222b6275c553e78d033994a5a79

‘It Has to Stop’: Minnesota Police Chief Says Off-Duty Cops Racially Profiled by ICE
“In Brooklyn Park, one particular officer who shared her story with me was stopped as she passed ICE going down the roadway,” Bruley continued. “They demanded her paperwork, [but] she is a US citizen, and clearly would not have any paperwork. When she became concerned about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated she pulled out her phone in an attempt to record the incident. The phone was knocked out of her hands.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-racial-profiling

ICE arrests elderly, underdressed Hmong-American man inside his St. Paul home over mistaken identity, family says
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What lies ahead in 2026?
As 2026 gets underway, British capitalism is entering another year in its long-running decline and disarray. This isn’t just a rough patch. Economic weakness, institutional decay, and social malaise are converging. Together they point to a system that has reached its limits. As the management committee of this broken system, the Starmer government is hated. But the anger goes deeper than just the government. The authority of Britain’s major institutions has collapsed. The police, the monarchy, the BBC, the courts, Parliament itself – none command any real respect. What’s striking is that the distrust comes from the left and right. The right sees ‘two-tier policing’ and a biased media; the left sees repression and corruption. All see the economic crisis and falling living standards. And increasing numbers draw the conclusion that these institutions are not neutral, competent, or legitimate. Westminster’s two-party system is now finished. Historically, Britain’s electoral system produced stable governments by rotating power between two large parties that could both, when push came to shove, be trusted to defend the interests of British capitalism. That arrangement is now breaking down.
https://communist.red/what-lies-ahead-in-2026/

“Bolivia Is Not for Sale”
“Fuerza, fuerza, fuerza! Fuerza, compañeros!” bellowed a man in a miner’s helmet into a megaphone. Marching through the sun-drenched streets in the haze of noisy firecrackers, thousands of miners, workers, peasants, civil society associations, and indigenous organizations in Bolivia descended on the city of La Paz earlier this month in the biggest social mobilization in at least five years. Beyond the city, road blockades led by union locals brought transport to a near standstill across the country. In the streets, the mantra was “Bolivia no se vende” (Bolivia is not for sale). The mass protests against the executive decree of newly elected Rodrigo Paz’s conservative government lasted nearly a month. While presented as the elimination of the fuel subsidy, which keeps gasoline prices artificially low, Decree 5503 would have also privatized key natural resources and implemented a wide range of austerity measures. The impressive display of workers’ might, combined with an effective negotiation strategy by the traPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>>2652719
>His Majesty,
>Charles the Third,
>by the Grace of God,
>King of Canada
>and His other Realms and Territories,
>Head of the Commonwealth
Our King and Sovereign protect us from the Yankee menace

Surprisingly belligerent speech from Carney today. For the TLDW:
>The old world order (i.e. the Western coalition) is over and isn't coming back
>Middle powers can no longer rely on the protection of great powers
>Middle powers should not seek to appease great powers and should resist pressure from them
>Canada sides unequivocally with Denmark over Greenland, and remains committed to NATO Article 5
>smaller countries should seek a diversity of alliances and partners instead of being beholden and dependent on great powers
Honestly couldn't believe my ears. Dude is basically saying that US hegemony is dead and that Canada shouldn't mourn it, that it should never seek to appease the Americans, and that it should be willing to defend itself before trying to appease aggressive neighbours.

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lol u guys are so fucked

>>2657469
grade b maple syrup left to ferment in just the right way has effects similar to nerve gas



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What do you think about rightoids who idolize autocracies and isolationism like Juche?
They have been pushing for a multi-polar world and I have definitely seen rightoids that idolize centralized governments, mainly Russia but also places like North Korea and Juche for being self relying and so on.
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>>2657420
even fucking CNN states it but people here still believe communism is democratic so its *gotta* be about "the majority"

>muh haz

idk how that retard can correctly point out skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles and then say shit like "uhhh baristas arent proles bc uhhhhhhh purple hair"

There is no cohesive observable ideological core for the MIGA movement. It's a tool to control the cattle.
On top it's imperialism, on the bottom the tune changes every 5 minutes. One second it's "globalism sucks", the second "we invaded a country and kidnapped its president, and we're supporting regime change on the other side of the world, and we're sending more weapons to Israel"

>>2657422
>even fucking CNN states it
Maybe, just maybe, the fact that you agree with CNN, the libest of all lib outlets, that working class = white people without four year degrees, is a sign that you don't actually know shit about Marxian class relations and should probably study up.

>skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles

The labor aristocracy is still a segment of the proletariat. A programmer might have a higher quality of life than a factory worker, but at a fundamental level, they're both exploited by the bourgeois in the exact same way. Working class, in the context of Marxian economics, does not mean "poor person", it means anyone who provides a product or a service to an employer who then profits off said good or service. Poverty is an effect of this relationship, not a cause, and starts affecting more and more people further up the pecking order the more emboldened the bourgeois becomes and the further capitalism advaces.

>>2657420
why do you think the working class is comprised exclusively of white people

>>2657464
I don't. CNN sure does though.



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