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Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2706736
No jobs, no masters.

>>2706736
Humans did not evolve for millions of years to work 9-5 in weird jobs that involve a LOT of delayed gratification. But humans are great at adapting so we can do it anyway. But it's not normal and our lizard brain resists it

>>2706736
Idk but if reincarnation is real I want to be reborn as moss or perhaps some sort of fungus. Then nobody would ask me to help them move.

>>2706736
its not a real thing, christians simply decided to call wanting to chill out a "sin"
>>2707484
>But humans are great at adapting
at that and being literal cattle, sadly

>>2691358
>>2691358
Yes. He like Made in Abyss. He is worse than Epstein.



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2707340
actually some boer intellectuals were against this because boers might jump ship en masse from their god given homeland® and just move to the us ruining their whole project

>>2707146
No. Mauritius does not even have an army.
But still, we will fight. With coconuts if need be.

>>2707376
>boor intelecctuals
lol

>>2708033
I suppose the navy is at the same level of existence,minus the UAE paid boats given to the Maldives for being good boy islamists

>>2708088
Thats maldives with the islamist connection

Mauritius has neither army nor navy.
We are a peace-loving people.
But the Maldivian degenerates are testing our patience.



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The classical Marxist schema wherein the industrial proletariat forms the decisive vanguard of socialist revolution must be ruthlessly interrogated and superseded when confronted with the objective reality of advanced settler colonialism, parasitic racist imperialism, and the labor aristocracy that binds large swathes of the so-called "working class" to the reproduction of empire.

The settler working class in America which are predominantly white, but including layers of assimilated non-white labor is not, and cannot be, the leading revolutionary subject in the imperial core. This is not moralism or identity politics; it is materialist analysis rooted in the global division of labor, superprofits extracted from the Third World (and internal colonies), and the bribe of relative privilege that turns potential revolutionary classes into social chauvinists or passive beneficiaries of genocide and plunder.

First, we must consider the structure of imperialism as analyzed through a MLM lens informed by dependency/world-systems insights and the theory of the labor aristocracy. The U.S. is the primary pole of the First World empire, a non-productive, consumption-heavy formation sustained by the superexploitation of the global South and the ongoing primitive accumulation against internal colonies (New Afrika/Black nation, occupied Turtle Island/Indigenous nations, occupied Aztlán, etc.). The "wages" of American workers are not merely the fruit of their labor but a redistributed share of imperialist superprofits via crumbs, cheap commodities, home ownership on stolen land, and the ideological bribe of white supremacy/nationalist chauvinism. This creates a clear labor aristocracy whose immediate material interests align more with preserving the imperialist system than overthrowing it. The "white working class" is not exploited in the classical sense that drives revolutionary consciousness; it is co-opted, bought off, and invested in settler-colonial continuity.

Historical evidence abounds from the 1877 railroad strikes through the New Deal labor accords to the post-WWII suburban boom and deindustrialization's selective pain, white workers have repeatedly sided with empire against colonized peoples (e.g., anti-Black pogroms, support for wars of aggression, rejection of reparations or land return). Even in moments of economic distress, reactionary populism and fascist-adjacent MAGA-ism or its left variants tends to dominate rather than proper Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2708116
Bro you are a weak. Mutipolaroids have outgrown you and say that black people are also treatlerites. Wake up lil bro.

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>>2708118

See >>2704539


>>Majority of blacks vote democrat and support capitalism. Does that mean communists rail against blacks for being black?

I'm sorry but this isn't making sense to me. You require more studying on Marxist theory in relation to the structure of race in American's colonial capitalism. BLACK PEOPLE DID NOT COLONIZE THE AMERICAS AND BUILD A COLONIAL STRUCTURE OF BLACK SUPREMACY THROUGH A NEW CAPITALIST WORLD, ON THE BACKS OF NON-BLACK LABOR. There is no "black supremacist" structure and reactionary force to attack in relation to the class struggle. So this comparison you give cannot be flipped in vice versa as an example.

just read books about this

>>There is a difference between attacking people based on race


This response again stems from individualist liberal perception on race and colonialism; it lacks a material analysis on these things. again, read please.


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>>2708163
>BLACK PEOPLE DID NOT COLONIZE THE AMERICAS

>>2708116
You know black people aren't retarded faggots like your are and also want the police and law and order to exist

>>2708163
>>2708116
>>2708072
>>2708072
>>2707996
Sorry for seeming so mean, I wet my diapers and my Jewish master hasn't changed them yet



 

US says it supports Pakistan's 'right to defend itself' against Afghan Taliban

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-says-it-supports-pakistans-right-defend-itself-against-afghan-taliban-2026-02-27/

The United States on Friday expressed support for what it called Pakistan's "right to defend itself" against attacks from Afghanistan's Taliban rulers after Islamabad said earlier in the day that the neighboring countries were in "open war."

Afghanistan's Taliban rulers had said on Friday they were willing to negotiate after Pakistan bombed their forces in major cities.

"The United States supports Pakistan's right to defend itself against attacks from the Taliban, a Specially Designated Global Terrorist group," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. U.S. diplomat Allison Hooker said on X she spoke on Friday with Pakistan Foreign Secretary Amna Baloch.
Pakistan is nuclear-armed and its military capabilities are vastly superior to Afghanistan's. However, the Taliban are adept at guerrilla warfare, hardened by decades of fighting with U.S.-led forces, before returning to power in 2021 when Washington withdrew chaotically.
Pakistan is a major non-NATO ally of Washington. The U.S. considers the Afghan Taliban to be a "terrorist" group.
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BJP strategy in shambles

>>2708010
and like israel it came from a two nations theory, really a shame but islamist on islamist violence is needed!

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Which islamist I support?!?!?!

hopefully it last longer than the russo ukrainian war and they both grind each other front line into paste for 5 years



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Capitalism will end in a few decades.
I concluded this by playing a flash game called Oiligarchy which you should play for yourself and see the eco ending:
https://armorgames.com/play/2607/oiligarchy (Original)
https://www.hackedfreegames.com/game/3195/oiligarchy (Hacked/Cheats)

and by searching "when will the world run out of oil" on Google, which said:
<Based on current consumption rates and known reserves, the world is estimated to run out of economically accessible oil in approximately 50 years, or around 2052–2060.

And I once read this guy called Reza Negristani who wrote a book (Cyclonopedia: Complicity with Anonymous Materials) about how oil is capitalism and its sentient, like he was saying capitalism needs oil, also the west runs on oil and its obviously important to them. Lots of guys like Michael Parenti and Jacques Derrida and whatnot wrote big books on how the west invades for oil, fights for oil and like is living because of oil and stuff.

So yeah, there won't be an ecological collapse / doomsday. West should fall soon. Unless they use nukes for M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) like in one of the game endings.

To address some concerns:
>We're already past the point of no return, this ecological damage is irreversible, we're fucked.
No I'm pretty sure not, but if we are its like… why aren't you doing whatever you want if its your final days? Go.
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>>2706976
Of course not, but large scale industries != capitalism. We already had capitalism with barely-above-artisanal levels of manual craftsmanship in England's nascent textile industry in the XVIII century. The only thing you need for capitalism is a small set of people with enough money to buy things and buy labour to then sell the result of labour+things for a bit above the cost and treat all of this as a private, non-social operation. They will begin to accumulate and pass the wealth through inheritance and begin the cycle all over again. My point is that ecological and/or technological catastrophes may very well preclude the current form of capitalism, but not capitalism itself. So I agree that running out of oil will be a once in a millenia opportunity for setting up a new set of rules for the material production of life, but we need to start thinking about the specifics right now because if we are not ready by then, inertia will make humanity fall back again to what they already are familiar with.

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>>2707060
Without large scale industry we cannot do communism, we’re gonna end up reverting to feudalism and slavery as the entire human population fights over the newly arable land in Northern Canada, Scandinavia, Alaska, and Siberia

>>2706976
>and neither is large scale industries at all
how are large scale industries incompatible with solar and wind? provided you have some hydro and nuclear it will be fine

>>2706972
energy prices will be skyrocketing before the collapse happens so there could easily be a socialist revolution then

Capitalism will last until the 2200s



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Hi comrades,

I propose we set up a fund, that leftypol can collectively put money into, and then we donate what we raised towards the Nuestra America Flotilla. Comrade Hasan Piker is also participating in the flotilla!

I know that for myself and many comrades Che and Fidel are heroes, it is important if we can help keep alive their legacies, and embrace the idea of the New Socialist Man (or the New Cuban Man) by showing comrades this humanity.

It is also important that the socialist exemplar that is Cuba which had sent many healthcare professional the world over during the Covid Pandemic, continues to show socialist governance as a model to many nations.

I'd advise sometime we set a similar thread for Palestine, I'd recommend 'The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East'.

It is likely best to be discussed here and on our matrix, where details finalised on the leftypol matrix and updates here too, so as to ensure comrades money can properly get sent across. If not, then independent donations can made, relevant links are down below.

So post in this thread to think how we can make this happen and join the matrix!

https://nuestraamericaconvoy.org/
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Would Best Korea be able to provide Cuba with nukes?
It needs them more than ever right now, and they should not pussy out like last time
Unfortunately China is still doing the "do nothing, lose" strategy

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>>2705196
they dont want to attract attention from the US blockade, so they are saying the tanker failed.

>>2704959
they have the nukes to give, but they dont have the means to give them to cuba through the US blockade, you'd likely need a nuclear sub for that

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>>2706775
>Right, so you say unintelligible things. That's the point.
of course, all things are unintelligible. there is no continuity between concepts, which are inherently subjectively determined. there is no shared material ground in which to confirm objectivity. existence is a maelstrom of vibes. its basically whatever you want it to be
>No, you said that Liberalism has "expired"
No i dont think so, you must be imagining things.
>when did it become "reactionary" to believe in human freedom?
more things no one has said. pls dont consume hallucinogens before posting mr smiff

>>2706998
wow that is a lot of words.

Mao was an Aryan
Saying "black" is now racist
Israel is a social construct
Stalin did nothing wrong
USSR was actually a futuristic, space-faring civilization
"Capitalism" is a codeword for ethnic genocide
Franco raped Spain with an African army
Jews were invented in the 1930s
We can't know the true history of USSR, because the USA destroyed all records
Modern Monetary Theory gets stolen; reappears in China
Elites are destroying Japanese culture
The Y chromosome recovers, cultural marxism was a spectacle
Homelessness is a social policy
USA updates its government form
Racial hierarchy have updated this year: worst koreans reach worst place
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>>2707336
>Homelessness is a social policy

true, and I don't know why your list of absurd claims included it

>>2707295
Right, so your only "defence" is to deny reality, which shows an appaling weakness in your character. Such as you have said, there is no valid follow-up on your unintelligible claims, nor any respect in this new-found solipsism which you portray, so I see that our dialogue has terminated by a self-inflicted madness on your part. That shall be all, then.
>>2707315
Yes, it's an example of dispensing the intellect in an Academic style, of building arguments in a logical structure. I make the proposition that Sacrifice is an institution born from class dynamics, which then appears continuous of earlier and later comments in my criticism of the appeal to Sacrifice as "revolutionary". I show different forms of sacrifice as being born from surplus for the granting of favours by the gods, which I have previously compared to the "lottery" of investment. I then show that the counterposition to religious sacrifice is "magic", beginning as a form of rationalising nature, rather than obscuring nature in esoteric doctrine. Modern forms of power then resemble the old, as the priesthood is secularised as an oligarchy that protects power. This is not to say that everything they say is a lie, but that their power is premised on the exclusivity of their knowledge, thus like capital, it prefers monopoly to competition.



 

What does leftypol think of Tolstoy?


The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.
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>>2646147
Tolstoy late in life was basically a Slavic Quaker

Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl

>>2646202
Bulgakov wrote proto-new-age shit

>>2646168
they do, aside from Ilf & Petrov, but they're really hard to read without the cultural context

t. Russian

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I like the movie.

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
i remember jordan peterson claiming he was the wisest man who lived.

>>2682265
Who cares what Jordan Fucking Peterson thinks

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
it's not just western. lenin expressed his annoyance at dosto fanboys. the truth is he was a good fuckin writer, and even in translation his writing is good. at some point you've just gotta accept that chuds can write banger novels every now and then.



 

Have there been any studies done deconstructing the left-to-right ("Saul-to-Paul") political conversion narrative that the right-wing loves to throw around?

I'm talking about people like former CPUSA members who turned state like Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd, and Louis Budenz; neocons like Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and David Horowitz (rest in piss); or contemporary "conversion" stories like those of Abby Johnson. I'm obviously talking about Americans here but I'm sure you can name plenty of examples from other countries. What psychological factors cause someone to abandon leftism and fully embrace the right, and even worse, turn on their former comrades?

Is it simply the case that they upheld leftism as a dogma, so when their "god" died they found another god? Is it because they were always authoritarian assholes and embraced the right when the right gave them a better outlet for being authoritarian assholes? Was it because they found that the left was moving in a direction they didn't approve of, so they gradually became rightist? Or, using the narrative they themselves most often parrot, they felt "betrayed" by the left so in turn they betrayed the left?

Also, why do we rarely see any prominent right-wingers turning to the left?
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>>2699619
I found Bella Dodd’s great-grandniece from one of her mother’s Facebook posts where she said Bella Dodd was her great-aunt. I cyberstalked her from there and saw that her daughter is now an influencer. People need to be way more aware of how much info about themselves they put online.

>>2661687
See this is what people mean, like you can support Palestine without trying to connect two radically different issues, also the Palestinian resistence blueprint has been an objective failure more or less

>>2649156
>there was a trend of ex-Jacobins who flipped to the Holy Alliance against Napoleon
any specific examples of books about this?

This is precisely the trap that unfolds when one's praxis remains suspended in the realm of idealist abstraction rather than grounded materialist investigation. The settler colonial apparatus doesn't merely operate through the barrel of the gun, no it reproduces itself through the very same structural frameworks we deploy to critique it. Those who haven't undertaken the difficult work of excavating the material foundations of settler sovereignty the land-as-commodity, the juridical production of the Native and Black body as modern homo sacer, and the structural necessity of elimination for capital accumulation are susceptible to reactionary tendencies or grifts . Theres no shock they become susceptible to what I term reactionary interpellation. The far right doesn't contradict settler colonialism, you understand? It intensifies it, accelerates its contradictions, defends it. Without a grounded antagonistic positionality towards this, one's "radicalism" becomes mere aesthetic posturing, which won't hold up over the years.

Don't forget the identitarians, the liberal managers of white supremacy's symptoms. They treat race as cultural rather than structural, as discourse rather than as a relation to production. Their praxis inevitably gravitates toward the petite-bourgeois horizon because they've abandoned the class analytic that would reveal how white supremacy functions as a mode of colonial governance securing surplus populations and dividing the local proletariat.

Everyone here is saying MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY but the Occam's Razor answer is that the far right appeals, on a human level, to the same insecurities and frustrations as leftism. So, it's not weird at all to see a former anarchist become a fascist, a former Marxist-Leninist become a TradCath, you name it. I think it's weirder to see a former radical become a milquetoast liberal, like a former anarchist become a Republican.



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Which socialist countries could a NEET move to join the working class?

<As of 2023, approximately 21.7% of young people worldwide, aged 15 to 35, are classified as NEET, meaning they are not in education, employment, or training. This statistic highlights a significant global issue regarding youth engagement in productive activities.
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>>2705701
Neets and elites are both on the same train eating the same gravy. It's only different amounts. You are too afraid of being the former, and too eager to be the latter, to stop funding our unholy union.

>>2706918
Neets and elites. That rhymes

>>2705701
>How do NEETs not experience an existential dread
I do, but I also did when I was non-NEET, I just have better quality sleep now.

>>2660145
Nepal?

>>2705701
the vast majority of "neets" are incapacitated by serious mental health issues exacerbated by capitalism but fuck empathy because a random unemployed shartmerican on pol called me a wagecuck once amirite



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