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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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>>2805238
Do you know how hurtful it is to be called rich? I prefer "differently wealthed", please respect my wishes.

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Why did the redistricting bullshit have to come in an election year. Now the vooters will be extra insufferable and nothing still won't happen

Because the only way to fight fascist vooter disenfranchisement is with more vooting

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>>2805568
Porky of Capital

>>2805377
Read Butcher's Crossing for a fun time



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So China's real state market just crashed, and houses will be cheaper. How is this a bad thing exactly? I don't understand much about economics. But why is everyone saying this is a bad thing?
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>>2795730
But gorbachev and western marxists were 100% in agreement.
In fact, that was the problem, gorbachev listened to the western leftists and eurocommunists who said the USSR was too totalitarian and needed to liberalize

>>2795436
>just crashed
old fucking news, all the westoid "muh ccp collapse!" did their thing already, more than a year ago, and then had to admit it didnt propagate and was a good calculated move from the government stepping in to curb speculation on home construction sector and make sure the sector is there to give people places to live and not rake in money
socialism with chinese characteristics win again

>>2795495
Who are you quoting?

>>2795628
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>>2795730
"Let's see you do better" is probably the most retarded argument a Marxist could probably make. Not only does it not address the argument made, it also completely ignores historical materialism. Revolutions happen because the material conditions of the day make them possible, not because the people involved wanted it hard enough.

>>2805138
Marx supported the American north when they abolished slavery, you'd be fucking retarded to think he wouldnt support Xi's China.

>>2805145
I never said he wouldn't.

I actually like China, by the way, probably even more than most people ITT. They are far and away the most successful socialist experiment thus far, and ought to serve as the model for any future socialist states. They're also a much better influence on global politics than the US. That doesn't mean that they're above criticism tho.



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Can anyone explain to me what this guy has actually done except relentlessly aura farm and fail to do anything about jihadist insurgency? I only ever see "BRICS News" and other unreliable engagement farmers hype him up.
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>>2792943
Traore has always seemed to be a man of much "revolutionary" rhetoric but little revolutionary action, and this is another example of that. This is not some nationally-owned factory, but rather the brand at least appears to be the brainchild of Harouna Kaboré, the former Minister of Commerce under President Roch Marc Christian Kaboré — the guy deposed by the present military junta in 2022. This appears to be at best a reorganization of the petty bourgeoisie and disgruntled elements of the bureaucratic bourgeoisie for a more advantageous position among the neo-colonies of Africa, with bureaucratic elements (Traoré) moving away from France in the hopes of a better (but still extractive) deal elsewhere while other petty bourgeois elements (like Kaboré) take the opportunity to start their own small-scale initiatives for personal economic gain.

>military juntas are good as long as they hate the West
Is there no low campists won't sink to?

>>2792992
I hate to break it to you, but Hitler wasn't actually a socialist, he just said he was for clout.

>>2793107
>He isnt really a socialist himself
So he's worthless.

>>2805091
>So he's worthless.
Complete nonsense. Any attack on the Western imperialist bourgeoisie renders direct aid to the worker's movement in the West itself, as well as the third world.

>>2793974
>mindlessly worshipping everything the Bolsheviks did instead of actually applying theory to the present
I fuckin’ hate campoids so much man. Fuckin’ braindead pedants



 

Why are small towns so Hitlerite? There's just an incredible amount of tribalism, anti-intellectualism and moral busybody behavior. Small towners are just people who don't know how to mind their own fucking business and get outraged over every moral panic. What the fuck is wrong with these libertarian freaks who want to diddle little girls and execute the gays? I've noticed that a lot of marginalized groups also maintain these kinds of small town politics. I just don't get it.
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>>2800638
An attempt to return to hunter gatherers tribes would mean the death of 90% of humanity, there aren’t enough wild plants and prey animals to feed us all

>>2800638
>muh primitivism

>>2800529
Collectivism and individualism are spooks.

>>2800653
You didn’t refute his point

>>2800005
Selection effects: open minded progressive types move to the city, leaving behind only the sort of person so small minded that they can't imagine leaving.

This is also why Britain is a shithole and why for all its flaws America is an innovative (if crazy) country: it is positively selected for those who'd gamble on a better life.



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I want to learn about the french revolution more after checking out De Toquevilles analysis of its cause and a little in Age of Capital by Hobsbawm. I've read some manifestos from the times (Babeuf, Robespierre) on marxists.org but want more history that refers to primary documents. Are the minutes of the early parliaments available, or polemics between the factions? Just give me everything pdfs or recommendations.


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>>2804221
>Are the minutes of the early parliaments available, or polemics between the factions
Some of the most well known speech are available on the french assembly website
https://www2.assemblee-nationale.fr/decouvrir-l-assemblee/histoire/les-grands-discours-parlementaires

but if you want the primary source of the first parliamentary debates, according to this
https://shs.cairn.info/revue-parlements1-2010-2-page-146?lang=fr#s1n2
you gotta read "Le Moniteur universel"
Theres apparently an old history book version of it "Révolution française ou, Analyse complète et impartiale du Moniteur" that you can find online
https://books.google.fr/books?id=pTM_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PP9&hl=fr&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

But even better, the BNF apparently have it digitized, then you can really feel like a 1789 frenchman reading about the debates in the news, starting from the estates general (pretty amazing honestly) :
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb34452336z/date1789.r=
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k44109553

>>2804993
some good books of the period would prolly be the best ofc, but Im no expert on that front
maybe "1789-1792 / 1792-1794 : Les deux Révolutions françaises" by Henri Guillemin who is a well liked historian by leftists here in france, although it might be a bit dated now.



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So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?
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>>2799612
How was he so right ?

>>2799079
Puting the NSDAP alongside modern zioyankee parties who will sell-out on immigration and most of other issues as soon as they win is so stupid
>>2799576
What are they planning? I heard they were warning to pull out of Spain and I thought they were preparing for an invasion or whatever using Marocco but why wouls they remove their troops from Germany? Do they genuinely believe their ideology? Are they this retarded?
>>2799612
I hoped Putin was doing to Germany what German media says

>>2799630
Probably going to use their troops against Iran, even just as posturing. these troops are essentially useless strategically in Germany. It's also a way to put pressure on Eastern Europe, Trump is showing that if they don't follow him, they're not going to defend them if Russia attacks.

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Blow my fucking brains out
Blow my fucking brains out
Blow my fucking brains out

>>2804936
You vill nut bake zee cookies und yew vill be happy



 

What do communist parties and anarchist groups actually do in the west? I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees. When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
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enjoy your dues lol.

>>2804643
>What do communist parties
Protests as rituals and book clubs.
>and anarchist groups actually do in the west?
Drugs

>>2804643
> I joined my union but nothing happened,
You are supposed to do even less than now when there is a strike.

The goal of a union is to grow in size until strikes combined with demands yield results.

The goal of a socialist party is to maintain internal discipline and avoid useless adventures that cause legal risk without material reward.

Realistically, America might be the last country to end up socialist.

Put in plane language, don’t start useless aggressive talk that just results in everyone labeled under NSPM-7 for death.

>>2804643
> communist parties
They read and complain about the anarchists and the other communists
>anarchist groups
They read and have sex with each other while also shit-talking the communists and other anarchsist.
>I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees.
Ok? thatd be your own fault then.
>When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
you are the kind of person people would specifically not bring to that kind of thing. Too eager, too stupid, talks on social media.



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I live in the Global South in a region being absolutely hammered by rising heat waves, the worst kind. People are dying, people are suffering, daily life is becoming unbearable. I’ve watched the heat get worse in real time and seen the misery it brings.
And unlike the retarded neocons these activists do understand the consequences of climate change, but then what? They offer nothing remotely proportional to the crisis. “Plant more trees,” “switch to solar” that’s it. I’ve had to explain over and over that our governments are too corrupt and dysfunctional to pull that off. They barely function as it is. There’s no institutional capacity and Individual actions don’t mean much in a system like this.
We had chances. When Al Gore lost and oil billionaire won, that was a turning point and a disastrous one. I genuinely mourn what could have been different. We could have built global institutions capable of dealing with climate change before it spiraled into this nightmare. But that’s not the world we got.
This is the reality now and If we want to prevent total collapse, geoengineering is the only option left on the table. I know it’s dangerous and I know it doesn’t fix the root cause. I’m not blind to that. But at this point it’s not about perfect solutions, it’s about any solution that might actually keep people alive and not in pain.
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>>2803811
>What industries
NTA, auto.

>>2803762
Why doesn't your country do some geoengineering then? You could spray that reflecting shit in the air to make it cooler?

>>2803856
Why doesn't the Indian capitalist class do this? They have different interests to the American capitalist class.

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>Hey guys and bros! Today I have a really retarded question that I'm going to ask here without doing even the most surface level of research on the topic! Next I'm going to act like you are the stupid one! It's going to be greaaaat!!

"Western activists" weird framing since it comes almost entirely from western billionaires.



 

I live in South Carolina. Joshua Sutter and his wife, Jillian Hoy operated Martinet Press and lived in and were based in South Carolina. There they formed the Tempel ov Blood/Libre 333/Iron Gates together for a theistic satanist order.
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>>2775399

i thought it meant confidential informant

Chabad Lubavitch

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>>2773122
>What hate groups originate in your state (Amerimutts only)?
Most of them

The JDF are very active in a college town in my state. They know that they can get away with it too. I wonder why.

The ACP led by the perfidous Haz Al-Deen



 

Anyone read the book Meditations on the Tarot? Got interested it because of the Jungian archetypes.

posting this mainly to get vetted on the matrix since the mods are serious there and serious here since I got banned on one wifi for accidentally messing up the arithmetic problem

Oh great another annoying namefag

The best part of Jung was his materialist work on unconscious responses to stimuli measured with electronic devices, but all these retards want to talk about is magic beetles and archtypes or somesuch nonsense. There is an actual process for helping people with trauma and complexes that involves materialism you know that thing we are trying to defend. That bring said I like Passio's scholarship. Do not namefag.

Just go to the source and read jung



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