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This should be the elephant in the room for a lot of people. The reason why Zionist Jews and Mormons have so much power and control over America is because America has freedom of religion. Jewish supremacy and Mormon influence in government and culture are the result of people being allowed to worship freely with zero government oversight. Same reason Evangelicals have so much power in the American South.

SOMETHING has to be done to combat these groups. We need to keep them monitored so they don’t keep political power and are drained of their enormous wealth. But we can’t do that if freedom of religion is allowed. Any socialist group in America needs to address this and call for the full-blown abolition of religious freedom. Shut down every single Zionist synagogue and Mormon and Evangelical “church.” Only allow liberation theology, anti-imperialist Islam and anti-Zionist Judaism. Keep religious places highly monitored by the proletarian state like they do in China. This is the only solution. And if you think not, come up with a better one.
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>>2706748
He made it up.

>>2706662
They tried giving Hasidim MBP consent forms but it failed. You can’t regulate this kind of stuff.

>>2706282
Many leftists were raised Catholic or liberal Protestant and still hold a soft spot for those religions in particular. I’ve seen numerous leftists say the Catholic Church is “actually” an anti-colonial institution that the left should embrace.

>>2706282
>>2707432
Christian exceptionalism is a cancer on the western left.

Leftist antisemitism is fundamentally an outgrowth of Medieval Christian antisemitism, that being the idea that Jews are innately “evil” because they reject Jesus. The idea is that the Catholic Church (regardless if you believe in God or not) was supposed to unite humanity under its banner, and that by rejecting Christianity the Jews rejected universal brotherhood for tribalism (even if it was solely due to theological reasons). Leftist hatred of Jews takes the guise of Jews being immoral because they reject the teachings of Jesus, which again is a very old school form of this particular hatred.

It’s also the reason why the western left hates China, Vietnam, Laos, etc. They think the Chinese and other East Asians can never be “real” socialists because they aren’t Christian but Buddhists/Taoists/Confucians and whatnot. If India ever gets taken over by the Naxals, the western left says it will fail very shortly because Indians are Hindu. When it comes to Islam, the western left has a very shaky relationship, very far from being a “red-green alliance”. Western leftists praise Islam only on the basis that Islam resembles Christianity, as if they’re trying to force Islam into adopting a western Christian paradigm — “Islam is liberal”/“Islam is about compassion”/“Islam loves Jesus”, that kind of thing. They can never let Muslims be Muslims without injecting Christianity into their faith.

>>2707498
How many of those leftists preaching "JESUS WAS A RADICAL PALESTINIAN ANTI-COLONIAL COMMUNIST" types actually go to church? Seems like nearly everyone who says that crap is an atheist/secular.



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“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2685041
i just cant believe how glowies thought it was a good idea to recruit him

technocrats are gayer than nazis and fascists combined

>>2697031
Why? He brought them a few more hundred billions in cash and is ideologically aligned and also temperamentally aligned (reminder: my little pony shitposts and image macros were found on the leaked CIA vault leaks)

I'm having a hard time thinking about a more /theirguy/ guy than him for the agency

>>2697641
Just look at alex karp

>>2684981
Many H1B eventually become citizens, or they accumulate enough savings to retire in India (10x lower cost of living) by their 40s. Source : Multiple family members.



 

What are your thoughts on the RCP/RCA/RCI? They seem to be the only communist group that's actively trying to organize near me but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.
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>>2703760
Gender goblins

>>2704655
Where? That's just what normal swedes look like anon

>>2703760
Be aware that to be officiated as a member they ask for 10% of your monthly salary, that in Sweden being roughly 100 euros if you are a student or more

>>2705146
>literal tithe
trots are not beating the cult allegations

>>2702656
The DSA where I live met in a spare room in a church.



 

Okay /leftypol.

Do you feel more bad for Socrates or for (historical) Jesus?

Bullied into suicide for not being a retard (or at least being less of a retard than everyone around him) vs tortured to death for being a slightly deluded edgelord
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>>2706061
> Secularism was practically unheard of in the ancient world
I question the historicity of Socrates as a secular figure. He seems at most a heretic.

>>2706416
>Creating a mere posibility is worthless
That's like saying we shouldn't build foundations because a foundation is not yet a house. We shouldn't plough fields because ploughed fields are not bread. Creating the possibility is not worthless when that possibility did not exist before.
>NATO is just a bunch of western democracies, athenian democracy is the prototype of that and the foundation of western civilization
It was not a prototype of anything. It was a completely different society governed by completely different social relations. It doesn't even share the same mode of production. The idea that Athens and Greek society was "the foundation of Western civilization" is a narrative conjured up during the Enlightenment. It's not actually true.
>It only matters that he opposed it and was considered enough of a problem to it that he was sentenced to death because of it
By that logic you should be buddies with skin heads who oppose liberal democracy because it isn't racist enough.

>>2706301
yeah christianity did grow out of these material conditions, but not of the poor, but of the wealthy, greek jews like paul and many others described in his epistles, this religion gained strength because of that, and your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity, in there there may very well be something you could turn into an emancipatory ideology, yet such a doctrine hardly caught on, since liberalism not long after changed the words of these men, frederick douglass for example was a christian himself, but he did not speak through the words of christianity to justify that slavery was unacceptable, he spoke through the liberal lens, as he had managed to be educated in ideas other than it

>>2706533
>your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity
That's my point though. I don't think it was the prime motivator of either of them, and it was simultaneously the language through which virtually all politics was conducted at the time.

>>2706539
in the US? yeah sure, but an enslaved man may speak in christianity because his slavemasters do, a slavemaster speaks of it because it represents power, i get that this is what you're saying but the religion itself has grown 9/10 to support the worst oppressive structures, and in the rare case it doesn't (like with john brown or whichever instance you can conjure up), it is crushed by those that do



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>>2687735
Just to double check went to the location of Sydney town hall on google maps, they were facing north

>>2687739
is that a sin in islam

>>2687710
Tribalism has been a disaster for humanity. Sadly only bad news on the palestinian front. I just stopped paying attention since I can't help them and I can't afford living my whole life pissed off.

Israel’s prison authorities have begun preparations for executing Palestinians under a proposed law condemned by Amnesty International and UN experts.

The preparations include the construction of a “green mile” facility to carry out the hangings, with groups of three volunteer executioners simultaneously pressing a trigger, Israel’s Channel 13 reported.

Two prison rights groups described the death penalty bill as an “unprecedented act of savagery”.

Meanwhile, eight UN experts last week called on Israel to withdraw the bill, which mandates executions within 90 days of a guilty verdict.

The bill, which must pass two more readings in the Israeli Knesset to become law, introduces two tracks for the death penalty.

In the illegally occupied West Bank, Israeli military courts would impose the death penalty for “terrorist” acts that cause someone’s death, even if it was unintentional; while in Israel and occupied East Jerusalem, the death penalty would apply under Israeli criminal law, and only for the “intentional killing of Israeli citizens or residents”.

Only Palestinians will be executed, while Israelis convicted of similar offences will face prison sentences.

If passed, the Israeli government intends first to target the law at the elite Hamas military unit that conducted the 7 October 2023 attacks.
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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2706191

There's also the fact that more Americans have lived in cuba even during the blockade. It's culturally more interlinked with the US and the Americas.

>>2704209
We will know when it's ready

>>2704294
It would've been better if they kept the battle mechanics.

>>2703978
I dislike Marxists which go after businesses which produce a valuable product.
I dislike capitalists which go after government because government.

Controversial but fair and true, the above opinion always gets me into people's bad books.

>>2704033
The only counterpoint to the death penalty that I've heard of and respect is that courts aren't trustworthy enough to ensure innocent people aren't convicted. Many many news stories of innocent people appealing and overturning life sentences.

For any extreme antisocial action where responsibility is established with certainty, execute them efficiently. No point wasting more resources. I don't care if you want prolonged 'justice' (torture) against someone who hurt you.



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MARXIST-LENINIST GENERAL
Founder's Edition
Esteemed comrades, revolutionary greetings.
This is a thread for Marxist-Leninist to talk among Marxist-Leninists. By that, we mean actual, real, complete Marxist-Leninists, not those who appropriate the heritage of Marxism-Leninism, but then proceed to denounce Lenin and Stalin from anarchist, left-deviationist and right-deviationist positions. Be not afraid to mercilessly bully the trotskyist, the leftcommunist, the anarchist, the social democrat and all the other saboteurs and lackeys of imperialism.

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>>2705658
Haz always came off as an insecure bottom to me

>>2705666
He's definitely short enough.

>>2705630
lol its funny when you start TWistposting please keep doing it :)

>>2704132
>The world was a completely different place back then, those were interimperialist conflicts between powers of relatively little difference in influence, at least compared to today.
I don't buy it. Italy in World War I? They entered an inter-imperialist war despite being much less powerful, was that something you would've supported if you were Italian? ᴉuᴉlossnW's transformation into a fascist was a result of that process.

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>>2701991
>>2702008
did you guys really take that post seriously? sigh…



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the most recent Epstein file drop potentially implicating the creation of /pol/ with moot meeting with Epstein feels like it needs to have its own thread. it's pretty much an accepted fact at this point that Epstein played a key role in what seems to be a massive secret human trafficking ring that exists as a form of Mutually Assured Destruction to for the elites to maintain power, but what is currently a lesser-known and recent revelation is that circumstantial evidence indicating that the entire formation of the far-right was an astroturfing psyop by pedophile billionaires and the intelligence community.

in particular, this thread >>>/lgbt/3094 links even more damning evidence that the astroturfing of far-right politics has been intentionally perpetrated as a psyop to ensure that the Molochian demons in power have access to as many children to rape as possible. pedocon theory is not a meme at this point or even merely an own on the hypocrisy of the far-right; it arguably is a significant factor behind the existence of the far-right today.

https://dump.li/a/29c72d#x

https://archive.org/details/dark-web-playground-child-abuse-forum-leak-censored-posted-endchan-03.18.2025

while it's bordering on LARP to act like anything serious happens on this site, broadly speaking "the left" and especially leftists familiar with imageboard culture & history should be investigating and agitating more specifically on this matter. the purpose of this thread is to consolidate information on this and to crowdsource more investigative work in the Epstein files specifically on the issue of astroturfing the creation of the alt-right. if you are involved in any real life organizing of any kind you should be spreading this information far and wide for agitprop purposes.

the masses needs to know that there is no civil debate to be had with the right, nor is there even any particularly sophisticated leap in theory and critique one needs to make; the far-right is simply ontologically evil and we should be agitating on them all being controlled by human traffickers as hard as possible.
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>>2686990
the guy they talked about the gynocologist with'

not saying that he was the gyno, sorry

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>>2678436
>"At the World Economic Forum in Davos last week, I announced the creation, jointly with Merrill Lynch, of a Central and Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union Fund with a capital of between $1 and $2 billion. The Fund's goal is to assist with the region's economic development. Our primary focus is on the media, newspapers, and television."


Fucking Yakovlev

>>2686012
>>someone posted about this on reddit about a month ago but it was deleted https://reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1prx2my/the_dark_webs_pedos/
>The redditor probably read the 8chan.moe thread (given some stuff they reposted from there), but they were calling it the darkweb for some reason. I'm wondering if they just misunderstood what an imageboard was, or if they were browsing 8chan via the onion sites.
>I also should have mentioned that the post they made on reddit could have been worded better. a few of the redditors in the comments were getting confused about who made the video or how the OP found it.

>>2685607
Wondering how we can cancel out nick

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/megyn-kelly-epstein-trump-fondling_n_692085d8e4b0d31c0a7a0d7a
>Last week, Megyn Kelly made waves when she pondered whether convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was actually a pedophile because, according to Kelly, his victims were “the barely legal type” and not 8-year-olds. (For the record: Epstein’s victims were at least as young as 14).



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>Free healthcare is socialism, you need to be placed in hospital debt for the rest of your life
>but US taxdollars should fund free healthcare for Israel
What did JD Vance mean by this? Anybody?
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he didn't say that

>>2706059
No healthcare for anybody. There, problem solved!

>>2706131
If that applies to Americans only I would support jt

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did you just question why american tax dollars fund palestinian genocide and israeli healthcare even while burgers watch all their social services get privatized? that's treatlerism!



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Baudrillard was a crypto-heidegerrian, symbols ARE real, read engels and matetialism vs empirocriticism

I will not elaborate further
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>>2705515
in my country the general masses are fascist and prime misogynist. way to go cunt.

>>2705554
Yeah, but the mistake is thinking that compatibility is predicated on the compatibility of ideas, rather than the compatibility of material interests.
All standpoint epistemologists are in unison when they cry "Listen to [nationality] gusano voices!"

>>2705558
Yeah, nietzsche would have hated nazism, but precisely because it was too democratic. In that, the category of "race" or "nationality" includes the slave rabble, and not just masters.
Ironically though, modern neoliberalism is closer to nietzsche's vision.
https://redsails.org/kriegsideologie/
https://redsails.org/nietzsche-the-chinese-workers-friend/
https://redsails.org/really-existing-fascism/
These articles discuss the topic in some detail.

>>2705623
Seek the rational in the real. You're not a blanquist, are you?

Actually, Zionism is a great example of this perfect blending of race essentialism and idpol.

>>2704244
>It is a matter of public record, however, that Foucault signed a petition to the Assemblée Nationale in 1977 calling for the decriminalisation of all “consensual” sexual relations between adults and children.
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/april-2021/michel-foucault-the-prophet-of-pederasty/
>>2703942
Reigns supreme
>>2705631
Blanquism (as individual ethos) is perfectly compatible with dialectical materialism.

Unironically though the Mirror of Production doesn't discredit Marxism necessarily. I'd even say it can be interpreted as a defense of Marxism within its sphere, and explains the rise of (neo)China. Marxism is capital's alibi, sure, but some alibis are better than others.

For Black History Month I am assigning you to read Baudrillard's Fatal Strategies alongside Sprigle's In the Land of Jim Crow, Griffin's Black Like Me, and Ice Cube's TV Show Black.White. Extra credit for watching Boy Meets World's Chick Like Me.



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