>>1883919what does "religious" mean to you? i'm deeply, deeply skeptical of self-reported religiosity because of the phenomenon of meaningless "cultural" Christianity, where people claim to be religious because their parents were, because they grew up in the church, because they were married in a church, etc… all of which really mark an immanent cliff-edge, a brittle ruin of something that came before rather than a hegemonic force that can change the modern world. look abroad for a moment, for fun: in 2001 65% of Scots were "christian", in 2011 it was 53%, now it is 38 and falling… most of that fall was in the inoffensive national church, the church of Scotland. in other words: all that happened is that "normal people" - who even in 2001 had already given up the church for all but marriage and death - have stopped kidding themselves. (The numbers for "no religion", are are 27%, 36%, and 51%) if you made optimistic predictions for Scottish faith in 2001 based on a high level of reported faith, you would've been sorely disappointed.
America is now 63% self-reported Christian (lower than Scotland in 2001), and while US churches are in a
stronger position than the Scottish ones were, I still don't see the line going anywhere but down on a 20 year timescale.
anyway in the first article
>Those who indicated religion was important — even if they attended services less than once a month — were classified as “moderately religious,” makes me skeptical of this measure - obviously church attendance isn't the only measure of praxis, but "oh yeah, it's really important" is cheap talk -
beyond that the actual study contains three interesting data points:
1. about 20% are "highly religious" (but that's 15% for white people and 30% for black people…), which i'd accept as implying a level of faith worth taking seriously.
2. the numbers are largely propped up by ethnic minorities, as you note when it comes to black americans. (but it's also true of basically everyone but whites and asians)
3. 38.3% are parents.
ask yourself: if you ran a church in a white neighbourhood, would current trends fill you with confidence? would you think the lord was winning hearts and minds, or would you be desperately looking to the third world for good news about
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