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>>2485612
Die Fahne hoch, das Genick angeschossen

>>2485321
tbh any american DoTP should just keep the NSA framework for monitoring all internet traffic and shit like room 641A and use it to find reactoids that can't help but loudly scream about how much a misanthropic counterrevolutionary they are and be dealt with as such. I mean ffs ppl willingly post pictures of themselves, there face and there gun the KGB wishes dissidents were that fucking stupid.

>>2485409
Zoomers and gen-alphaers would sooner be radicalized by a military edit than a dead old dude's pity party.

>>2484883
Bro, haven't you seen this bullshit tactic enough with Biden? It's a feint to try to dettach Trump from Israel's crimes, to hide the fact that they're 100% in sync.

They got cancelled for the wrong reasons but Trumpoids are right about Kimmel and Colbert being trash. Jon Stewart and John Oliver do it way better anyways.



 

As the subject implies, I, an American leftist, have two questions for Third-Worldists.

First, if quality of life is too good here for your average American to be driven to revolution, and said quality of life is dependent on exploitation of the Third-World, shouldn't it follow that, as the American Empire's power falters, our quality of life will worsen, thus creating revolutionary conditions here?

Second, if our current quality of life is only achievable by exploiting the Third World, how is it that China is able to meet and in many cases surpass us in that regard without resorting to imperialism? Unless I'm missing additional context, the only conclusions that could be drawn are either that China is actually imperalist, or the claim that Western-level quality of life can only come from exploitation is bunk, and neither of those sits well with Third-Worldism as an ideology.

I'm specifically looking for answers from people born and living in the Third-World, since Western born Third-Worldists tend to be self-loathing academic types, although I will accept answers from Western Third-Worldists that aren't mentally cucked.
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>>2489752
Thanks, western economist.


>>2489752
> The solution to this problem exists
That still won't work in the long term

>>2490045
Westener/oid is the white male of the mid 2020: idpol garbage to shortcut thinking and discussion

>>2489752
>increase domestic consumption
they're already doing it



 

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>>2489753
aspiring to become a member of NATO or hosting US military bases carries a risk of becoming a bombed out appendage, and that is good and based

>>2489747
Why are you malding? Maybe your little nazi friends should have spent their time learning how to build things properly instead of attacking Ukraine?

It is worth pointing and laughing at a country that has so heavily mortgaged its future on war with its neighbour and simultaneously accepted Chinese vassalisation. While basic infrastructure so routinely fails, like the walls and roofs of school buildings, the government prefers to spend the country's treasure and demographic future on a suicidal war with a much weaker neighbour.
This will never not be funny. Nazis who cry that their empire's power is receding faster than their hairline always makes me smile.

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Go to loot, got Kursked.
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Climate/AI/Nuke Pending, we can die happy boyos, never forget that! and never give up the fight, rage against the dying light! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9uLUpt0yz0

>>2487764
Im not dooming at all about AI but quite the opposite this new production technology can be a step towards planned economies outcompeting market based ones.

praxis in the streets and its demoonstrations and theory and in the sheets and you're too fucking tired to actually understand shit because you were demoonstrating peacefully the whole day
actual fucking praxis is endless spreadsheets and organizing information for your org while actual fucking theory is sitting down soberheaded with pen paper and a book and actually studying the material
fucking poser
kys and your dumb 'happy nihilism'
lenin had the right to be optimistic, you don't. get to work. being a communist is not an identity.

>>2488401
All valid criticisms, though I think this is here to bo is to boost morale more than anything, through the post could have been better worded and more direct

>>2488203
'AI' isn't a prodction technology.



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I hate how the right constantly claims ownership over Masculinity!

It’s so fucking stupid how the Right claims that it’s the left that is “Soy and Gay” when they literally voted for a president who is the soyest, fattest, bitch on the planet. I could get into how the term “Masculine” is wishy washy or whatever but I would rather go with their terminology so I can disprove it. Even if they are a right winger that doesn’t like Trump this extend just to establishment republicans this extends to the far right as well, fascism is a suicidal ideology invented by a fat bald Italian bozo in which the cucked masses allow one leader to walk all over them. The right are the soy ones and the left are the chads. The right is so fucking cucked, Female anti-feminists are literally advocating for men to boss them around, Black White nationalists are advocating for White people to boss them around, and middle class capitalists are advocating for billionaires to boss them around. Being a cucked sycophant isn’t really a masculine trait last time I checked but being strong and standing up to the oppressors is.
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Masculinity as a concept is inherently reactionary smh

>>2484116
Of course a Canadian says something like that.

The materialistic communist heroes are all long dead.
The future of socialism lies in the transcendental and metaphysical.

>Being a cucked sycophant isn’t really a masculine trait
What is a man? It is half of the human species, which engages in sexual reproduction to achieve a greater dialectical whole…But these neoliberal subject NPCs like Andrew Tate are beyond human! Its not a coincidence that all these "Men Going Their Own Way" (MGTOW) incel femme-boy fascists have rejected the dialectical continuation of life itself. Capitalism creates soulless nu-males who are some sort of domesticated cattle creature. that is nihilist because they aren't actually living, they're zombies dressed in Carhartt

>>2450186
>DPRK when they wrote this article in response to gay marriage becoming popular in the West… Linking it to a diseased way of life and a tool for the capitalists to turn their citizens into slaves
if you actually knew a single LGBT person, you would know that gay marriage is actually very controversial. Plenty of gays are engaging in very radical discourses like:
<"neoliberals want us to be soulless Stepford Wives living in petite bourgeois suburban bug hives like straight people. Gay marriage is fascist recuperation into Alan Greenspan's low interest rate consumer identity neoliberalism"

>>2488885
Ok, and?



 

So that a new socialist revolution could have formed right after, the contradictions were held together for over 40 years until 1989, that was far too long.

In order for socialism to be built we need constant boom and bust cycles of burocreacy being built and then smashed down through constant uprisings

Either way, burocreacy needs to be destroyed as quickly as possible to accelerate determinitic development to communism.
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>>2485274
>The dictatorship of the proletariat will create the conditions to socialize the economy through expropriations, but before that, state capitalism can be used to acquire economic sovereignty and be used as a tool to bankrupt all petty-bourgeois classes, allowing them to be collectivized, where small-scale production still dominates, so that they can become accustomed to cooperative labor, while capitalists and landowning aristocrats can be immediately expropriated.
pure fantasy, if state capitalism is run by the 'workers', who were in any case a minority in Russia in 1917, they (the ones who oversee this process) become objectively become the bourgeoisie and are thus no longer workers, everything that they must do would be in their own, self-defined interests and no sane Marxist, I think, would ever think that the bourgeoisie, in general, will act against its interests and I don't see why workers turned bourgeois would not do this
>while the landowning aristocrats were already collaborating with the imperialism of British finance capital in Russia, acting in a way that would delay the formation of bourgeois rights for the population, due to their reactionary nature and the fact that they had already co-opted the bourgeois liberals,
the 1905 revolution started to turn Russia into a bourgeois state with a parliament, which had its own representatives, even if the landowning aristocracy existed
even if British finance capital did cooperate with Russia, their constant expansion into new markets would've inevitably drawn Russia into the capitalist world-market and the landowning aristocracy would either have turned bourgeois themselves, or their production would not have been as competitive as that of British capitalists or their own emerging ones
and a bourgeois revolution happened in Russia regardless, without the intervention of Lenin or the Bolsheviks in the form of the Provisional Government, which was lead by Kerensky
>Remember that the Soviet Union abolished private property, unemployment, and all features of capitalism for the planning of the economy. The state capitalism, small commodity production and private capitalism of the NEP by peasants in the rural sector were eventually abolished by Stalin who made the rest of the economy organPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2487279
>Pure fantasy: if state capitalism is run by the 'workers,' who were in any case a minority in Russia in 1917, they (those who oversee this process) objectively become the bourgeoisie and are thus no longer workers. Everything they must do would be in their own, self-defined interests and no sane Marxist, I think, would ever think that the bourgeoisie, in general, will act against their interests, and I don't see why workers turned bourgeois wouldn't do this.

You're confusing here that at the time of the Russian Revolution, there was already a massive expropriation of capitalists and aristocrats by the proletariat and peasants, who are workers. Where the civil war eliminated the superstructure of the bourgeoisie, the Mensheviks were preparing with the Kadets and Tsarists to create a coup d'état and use the bourgeois state to reverse all the structures of workers' power advances, but for the Bolsheviks to follow all the warnings Marx gave against the Paris Commune. such as the immediate appropriation of banks and the abolition of private banking through nationalizations and expropriations, acting decisively in the instability of the bourgeois state, pushing it to its limit, and when the working masses are ready, initiating armed conflict by organizing to occupy all means of production, transportation, and communication, along with the supply centers of the weakened bourgeois state, to facilitate its abolition so that the dictatorship of the proletariat can more easily initiate its revolutionary terror and the proletariat can become the new ruling class.

You are confusing state capitalism, which was used when there were no developed means of production, with capitalism, which is the example of small peasant production isolated from each other, which is outdated for collective planning due to a lack of technology and organizational techniques. In this case, preparing a limited grain market with state capitalism is acceptable so that impoverished small peasants receive benefits for working in cooperatives, because the more prosperous peasants were acting like gangs, sabotaging and coercing the smaller peasants to submit to what would be the "new capitalists" who were preparing to eventually pit rural workers against urban workers in an attempt to restore the bourgeois state.

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>>2487279
>he was of course, writing about France and Germany, which were significantly more advanced and had much less peasants than Russia, how can you have a socialist proletarian revolution when there are barely any proletarians? Such a revolution of peasants and workers must've acted not necessarily in the interests of purely workers, but also in the peasants (which is why you saw Lenin redistribute land etc.), and peasants due to their own economic class are interested not in socialism, which would destroy them as a class, but in capitalism, which would allow them to turn into capitalist land owners
I can see a society with a small amount of peasants with a proletariat that significantly outnumbers them transitioning into socialism, but not a country that consisted of 85% peasants

In the text "The Principles of Communism" Engels already wrote in 1847 that communists can organize the proletariat to assume power much earlier and having much fewer proletarians and industrialization in the countries of the world when it was written:

<18. What will be the course of this revolution?


<Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. Direct in England, where the proletarians are already a majority of the people. Indirect in France and Germany, where the majority of the people consists not only of proletarians, but also of small peasants and petty bourgeois who are in the process of falling into the proletariat, who are more and more dependent in all their political interests on the proletariat, and who must, therefore, soon adapt to the demands of the proletariat. Perhaps this will cost a second struggle, but the outcome can only be the victory of the proletariat.


<Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. The main measures, emerging as the necessary result of existing relations, are the following:


<(i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inhe
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>>2488018
>You're confusing here that at the time of the Russian Revolution, there was already a massive expropriation of capitalists and aristocrats by the proletariat and peasants, who are workers.
which? the february revolution?
>Mensheviks were preparing with the Kadets and Tsarists
wrong
the Mensheviks-Internationalists (the dominating force after 1917) in the Mensheviks strictly did not fight against the Bolshevik regime. Only the right SRs and some of the right Mensheviks, the defencists (under Potresov I believe) sided with the Whites.
with the rest I have nothing to say
>You are confusing state capitalism, which was used when there were no developed means of production, with capitalism, which is the example of small peasant production isolated from each other, which is outdated for collective planning due to a lack of technology and organizational techniques.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that state capitalism exists when there are no developed means of production? Or are you saying that state capitalism in Russia existed when there were no developed means of production? Wouldn't this contradict the general tendency for the accumulation of capital, one of the reasons for which would be the change in the technical composition of capital (that is, how much is constant and capital) with a greater portion being constant capital? Because this greater constant capital requires in very simple terms a greater economy of scale, as this scales up, so does the initial capital required to enter the market as a competitive capitalist, so you see the general tendency towards monopolization. A state capitalist society would then exist there, where the share of constant capital is the greatest. That was not the case in Russia at all.
>with capitalism, which is the example of small peasant production isolated from each other, which is outdated for collective planning due to a lack of technology and organizational techniques.
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>>2482625
shoulda listened to engels



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NPA Unit Preemptively Strikes AFP Troops In Oriental Mindoro Province
An NPA-Mindoro (Lucio de Guzman Command) unit preemptively struck the attacking 1st IB troops in Sitio Tugas, Barangay San Vicente, Roxas, Oriental Mindoro Province on September 9. According to the unit, it immediately detected the presence of the 1st IB forces, which allowed the Red fighters to promptly prepare, position themselves, and open fire.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/21482/

‘This is their attempt to silence him’: Umar Khalid reaches five years in Indian jail without trial
Before his arrest Khalid had emerged as one of the faces of an anti-government protest movement after the Modi government passed a citizenship law in late 2019 that was seen as discriminatory to Muslims. The protests that erupted were the first widespread challenge to the Modi regime and were met with brute force by the state. Dozens were killed by police fire and activists were detained and tortured.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/20/umar-khalid-five-years-in-jail-without-trial-india

Privatised phone system failure causes deaths in Australia
Optus CEO Stephen Rue held a short snap press conference at 5.30 p.m. on Friday to belatedly announce the breakdown. He provided no details or explanations, other than that an Optus network outage had caused the failure of 600 Triple 0 calls across South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory. South Australian police confirmed that two deaths involved a baby boy from Gawler West, 43 kilometres north of Adelaide, the state capital, and a woman from Queenstown, in Adelaide’s northwest. A third death occurred in Western Australia, but that person was yet to be identified.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/20/krql-s20.html

Eswatini activists protest US deportation deal at embassy in South Africa
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Official Press Release By CPI (Maoist) TSC Spokesperson Comrade Jagan: The temporary declaration of ceasefire in the armed struggle issued by Comrade Sonu in the name of Central Committee spokesperson Comrade Abhay is only Sonu’s personal opinion, not a party decision.
Although there have been protests across the country demanding an end to Operation Kagaar, the BJP—driven by an anti-people, violent agenda—continues this campaign of killings. On top of that, BJP leaders are publicly declaring that they will not negotiate with the Maoists and are demanding that they lay down arms and surrender. While on one hand they claim “we will not negotiate,” on the other they continue a spree of killings — and yet one of the central committee members, Comrade Sonu, has inexplicably asked us for a month’s time while announcing that he is suspending the armed struggle. He has said he needs a month to consult long-standing party leaders and activists in various places and has requested that party committee members send their opinions to the email address he gave. There is no sense in announcing something this important in that manner. If someone wants to leave the armed movement and work within the mainstream legally, that decision should be discussed and approved within the party committee. If he had submitted his views through party channels, he would have received responses to his questions. Instead, by publicly declaring such a major step, he has sown confusion within party ranks and in the revolutionary camp. His method of proceeding will not help the movement; it will harm it.
https://www.redspark.nu/peoples-war/india/official-press-release-by-cpi-maoist-tsc-spokesperson-comrade-jagan/

While Corbyn and Sultana bicker, the need for revolutionary politics grows greater
As wars and revolutions sweep the globe, and life in Britain gets worse, millions of people are looking for a radical political answer. Starmer’s government is hated, but the only people filling the vacuum are right-wing demagogues like Farage and Robinson. That’s why there was so much enthusiasm when independent MPs Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana announced the formation of a new left-wing party earlier this year. Corbyn and Sultana promised a party that would fight fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thank you for the update on NPA revolutionary activities!

>>2488926
>Germany: Brigitte Asdonk, RAF Co-Founder, Died
RIP, my salute to a real one

TYBNA

Tybna



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Marx is more poetic, more aggressive. Marx's writing is dense, theoretical, and often philosophical. He employs complex, abstract concepts, and his tone can be polemical, especially when critiquing political economy or capitalism. Marx’s style is rigorous, dissecting systems with precision and often incorporating historical materialism to support his arguments. His texts, are marked by long sentences, layered analysis, and a critical, sometimes inaccessible, tone.

Engels, in contrast, tends to write in a more accessible and straightforward style. While he is equally intellectual, Engels’ works often have a more practical, pamphleteering quality. His language is clearer and less convoluted, with an emphasis on clarity and popularization of Marxist ideas. Engels is also more willing to engage in rhetorical persuasion, making his writing more digestible for a broader audience, as seen in works like The Condition of the Working Class in England.

When Engels wrote Principles of Communism, he took the style of a straightforward Q&A. After Engels wrote Principles of Communism, it was suggested that the style of a "catechism" be abandoned and a "manifesto" drawn up instead. This is why Marx and Engels ended up co-authoring the Communist Manifesto. But reading through the Manifesto and Principles back to back, the Manifesto seems less accessible, and Principles more straightforward. Manifesto has more of a call to action, but it is also more historically bound by the time it was written, while Principles seems more timeless.

Principles of Communism was written by Engels as a more systematic outline of Communist ideas in response to a question posed by the German Workers' Educational Society. It is a concise, theoretical treatise that lays out the basic principles of Communism, offering a clear framework of ideas, focusing on topics like historical materialism, class struggle, and the abolition of private property. It's more of a primer on Communism.

The Communist Manifesto, co-authored by Marx and Engels, is more dynamic, political, and revolutionary. It’s a direct call to arms, aimed at a broader audience, including workers and intellectuals. While it builds on the ideas in Principles, it is less abstract, emphasizing immediate political action, the inevitability of class struggle, and the need for revolution. The tone is urgent and rhetorical, designed to rally workers and challenge the existing order.
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>>2488952
Me on the left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlN6z9dTBc
This kind of memelord proto-Trump energy could be good for PR right now, Xi is cool if you are already PRCpilled, but to the normies he comes of as kind of scary.

>>2488663
You can tell you're just an r/ultraleft bot who pretends to read when you spout shit like this. There is a part in Capital where Marx refers to commodities as "inwardly circumcised Jews." You're not convincing anybody.

>>2489109
>There is a part in Capital where Marx refers to commodities as "inwardly circumcised Jews."
kek, that is exactly the kind of stuff I was thinking about when making OP



 

Do you think this quote adequately describes what's happening in Palestine right now ("capitalist and colonial countries… oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat")?
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>>2445075
>Prove that my assertion is an assertion
Lmao how about you prove that the Soviet Union was directly responsible for Israeli victory

>when and in what quantity?


<Soviet-Syrian and Soviet-Lebanese secret treaties in 1946 was as follows:


<The Soviet Union agrees to send a sufficient number of military personnel to Syria, comprising military instructors and high-ranking officers, in order to help Syria to build up as rapidly as possible a national army of some strength. (The Soviet Union and Egypt, 1945-55, Rami Ginat, 1993, p. 70. Citing: From Encroachment to Involvement, a Documentary Study of Soviet Policy in the Middle East, 1945-1973. Israel University Press, Yaacov Ro’i, 1974, pp. 29-30) (IMG)


<A secret treaty between the USSR and the Lebanese government based on these [above] clauses, was signed two days later. (The Soviet Union and Egypt, 1945-55, Rami Ginat, 1993, p. 70) (IMG)


<backed Syria and Lebanon during the 1948 War. As material support for the Arab fighters, the Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak People’s Democracy provided weapons whereas Romania supplied the petroleum:


<Some of the Arab League countries have purchased arms from Czechoslovakia; the largest shipments to the Arabs from that country have gone to Syria and Lebanon. Small shipments from the USSR or Balkan ports are also reported to have landed on the Syrian and Lebanese coasts; also, petroleum products are now being shipped to Lebanon by Rumania. (POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENTS FROM THE PALESTINE TRUCE, ORE 38-48, CIA, July 27, 1948, p. 9) (IMG)

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>>2445077
You have a child's understanding of history

>>2445064
>Not only that, but the Soviet Union was the first country to recognise Israel.
USSR had debts to pay for Jewish support in Britain and the US during WWII

>>2445064
The support it got from the USSR is nothing compared to the support of the US, you are a retard if you dont realize which is better.

>>2444811
did you read which greentext anon was replying to



 

Hey Stalinoids.

North Korea has two legal parties other than the Communist party (one social-democrat and other - of some weird Korean folk religion schizos). And neither are a modern development - both were founded literally before the Korean War. Both are allowed to have a stable minority in the Supreme People's Assembly and this doesn't seem to harm DOTP of North Korea in any significant way.

What excuse does Soviet Union have?!
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>>2488636
cargo cultists glowies were more interested in goyslop such as coca cola

>>2488310
Party diversity is meaningless.
So long as the Communist movement retains total control of the direction of socioeconomic development, prohibits bourgeois and capitalist parties, and prevents the DoTP and socialism from being threatened I couldn't care less if there's 1 party or 1000 parties or people standing as independent candidates.

>>2488310
HEY TROTSKOID
TROTSKY DIED IN MEXICO LMAO
WHAT EXCUSE DOES TROTSKO HAVE?!

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>>2488720
13th december best day of my life

>>2488692
Good post



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