/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2596842
The Soviet "schizophrenia" was entirely justified and the only reason why the bloc failed is that they didn't go far enough. The USSR was one of the best functioning states in the world, there was no corruption and then Khrushchev came in and re-implemented capitalism while loosening party discipline and freeing all the fifth columnists from prison. It's not a surprise that the state collapsed, the Communist party was full of opportunists many of whom (Gorbacuck) were active enemies of socialism. Gorbacuck was mad because his Kulak grandparents were correctly liquidated by Stalin and he set about to destroy the USSR because of it.

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>>2596932
responded in the next thread: >>2596967

>>2596363
thank you

>>2596820
I genuinely did not know about Venezuela's communal councils until last week, that's lightyears ahead of burgerdom where much of this kind of work gets laundered through non profits

>>2596613
Wouldnt you able to adress by simply making money expire after ar certain time?

>>2596631
Im not sure my educated guess is that this would create just an another set of problems. I would focus more on socialism instead of trying to fix capitalism.

>>2596635
True

>>2595926

Here we go teaching the "marxists" marxian economics again

Deflation can result due to productivity increases. Deflation of necessary goods is the basis for relative surplus value, through which porkies can increase the rate of exploitation via lowering wages. This phenomenon is implemented concretely via relative inflation, through which inflation of commodities rises faster than wage rises, having the same effect as a direct deflation of wages but the mechanism is hidden from the worker to reduce class conflict. Productivity-derived deflation of capital goods on the other hand lowers the organic composition of capital, and thus constitutes a countervailing effect to the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

Deflation is an entirely different matter in the context of a crisis of overproduction. Once the crisis hits, credit disappears causing a massive drop in demand and surge in debt payments, so capitalists clear their stock at low prices to get any money they can, investment stops and unemployment rises, leading to a drop in demand and sales, leading to lower prices still, reinforcing the cycle. Deflation here includes a lowering of wages due to a growing reserve army of labor. Because it is a systemic feedback loop there's no such thing as "prices are low so you can buy more!!1" because incomes fall in tandem with prices. Only once sufficient capital has been destroyed, sufficient debt has been settled, and wages and interest rates have fallen enough, will the rate of industrial profit be restored to the point that expanding production can once again be profitable.

So deflation as a symptom of a crisis of overproduction and indirect wage deflation bad actually, while wage increases tied to productivity increases good, as well as capital good deflation only because it increases in the rate of profit without resorting to class warfare

I thought a ceasefire was agreed upon

>>2596689
lol no

Utah repeals ban on collective bargaining for teachers, firefighters and police unions
Utah has repealed a collective bargaining ban passed earlier this year that prevented labor unions serving teachers, firefighters, police and other public employees from negotiating on behalf of their workers. Republican Gov. Spencer Cox on Thursday approved the repeal of a policy that experts had called one of the most restrictive labor laws in the country.
https://apnews.com/article/utah-labor-unions-collective-bargaining-repeal-a84267e0c9bff480a648aacc79c1bc7c

Inside Kristi Noem's bitter feud with Trump's border czar
Noem, a former South Dakota governor, has spent millions of department dollars on a controversial campaign-style ad blitz that some insiders believe promotes her as much as the department's mission. That rankles career immigration officials, many of whom are loyal to Homan, a 30-year immigration-enforcement vet. Insiders have personally complained to Trump about Noem's management and the role of her top adviser, Trump campaign veteran Corey Lewandowski, who in effect runs DHS, the sources said.
https://www.axios.com/2025/12/11/trump-kristi-noem-tom-homan-feud-immigration
https://archive.ph/DYc8k

JetBlue flight near Venezuela avoids ‘midair collision’ with US Air Force tanker
“We almost had a midair collision up here,” the JetBlue pilot said, according to a recording of his conversation with air traffic control. “They passed directly in our flight path. … They don’t have their transponder turned on, it’s outrageous.”
https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-jetblue-military-tanker-collision-baa2ab38062c5143ba6ce8164219ece2

US invalidates union contract covering 47,000 TSA officers, AFGE vows to challenge
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on Friday terminated the collective bargaininPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

TKP-ML: Notes On Abdullah Öcalan’s “Perspective” Document
Following PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan’s “Call for Peace and a Democratic Society,” the PKK decided to end its armed struggle by dissolving itself at its Extraordinary 12th Congress held between 5 and 7 May. A. Öcalan prepared two separate documents sent to the PKK’s 12th Congress. Serxwebûn newspaper published the 21-page document written by A. Öcalan on 25 April in its 521st issue.
General Introduction: Following PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan’s “Call for Peace and a Democratic Society,” the PKK decided to end its armed struggle by passing a resolution to dissolve itself at its 12th Extraordinary Congress held on May 5-7. A. Öcalan prepared two separate documents sent to the PKK’s 12th Congress. Serxwebûn newspaper published the 21-page document written by A. Öcalan on April 25 in its 521st issue. In this “Perspective” document, consisting of an introduction and seven main sections, A. Öcalan addresses the theoretical, political, historical, and programmatic foundations of the new era from his and his organization’s perspective. This article evaluates the “Perspective” letter sent by A. Öcalan to the PKK’s Extraordinary 12th Congress.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/25551/

Greece’s Broken Democracy Is a Warning for Europe
On the night of his election victory on July 7, 2019, new prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis declared that Greece was “returning to normal.” Leader of the right-wing New Democracy party, Mitsotakis promised a government of the “best and brightest” and drew a line under the previous four years of Syriza rule, vowing to erase its legacy piece by piece. More than six years on, that promised “normal” looks less like stability and more like a permanent state of managed scandal. Mitsotakis’s tenure has unfolded in a landscape marred by allegations of corruption, financial mismanagement, illegal surveillance, cover-ups, abuse of European Union funds, manipulation of the justice system, and a tightly controlled propaganda machine financed through state resources. It’s something we hadn’t seen since the fall of the military dictatorship. In that half-century of democracy, there has been no comparable case of a governing party that so stubbornly refused to police its own ranks, shielded itself from scrutiny with such disciPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2595185
cope germans and anglos will be migrating to poland for jobs soon geeeg

>>2595218
no they won't
thirdies from countries that kvetch about poland ditching warsaw pact however will in droves

>"Every provocateur or madman who dares to lift his hand against the power of People's Poland will have that hand chopped off."
ZOMO chads get in here

>>2596366
DSA's worst nightmare
Sorry sweetie but this is what dictatorship of the proletariat looks like <3

>>2594954
>>2596366

Patriot 🫡

If only the Generals of the Red Army, which beared the noble responsibility of keeping the wise Dictatorship of the Proletariat mighty and the beautiful fire of October lit through ages grim had such a decisiveness and courage back then and acted as early as possible against the traitorous elements of the bourgeouis restoration!
https://youtu.be/3UhsYO9GsHA

>>2596221
Bernie is worse than Hitler.

>>2595082
Use the electoral system to elect a strong, charismatic leader who then has a mandate to govern the people in their interest.

>>2596278
>the people
you mean corporations

>>2596229
He would still continue the evils of AmeriKKKa but he was clearly the least harmful possible option for Americans and the world at large.

wdym what are we supposed to do? agitate, educate, organize. figure it out how to do this for your conditions. i mean, tell me, what else do you think is there to "do"? (beside produce surplus and live in class society)

>>2595285

A >real movement vs a state of affairs.
they are obviously saying that historical attempts were not genuine to the real movement.

Who says this? All communist parties or the KKE? You need to write in a clearer way in order to communicate to us what you intend the subject of sentence to be.

In any case this is false in both instances. Many communist parties believe the attempts were genuine, including the KKE (Until perestroika in the USSR with preceding degeneration from the kosygin-liberman reform & the 90s in China, with preceding degeneration being the 1980s deng reforms)

>keyword:had, they dispute that China is currently continuing to build

Indeed, and I agree with them. The current economy is capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector; The central planning authority (which isn't even called that anymore) does not issue decrees which have force of law, enterprises overwhelmingly make their own investment, supply chain & pricing decisions (ie. The Chinese economy is structurally
less centrally planned than mcdonalds corporation is internally). And this was not always the case: Things degenerated & capitalism was restored.

>its still wrong from a materialist perspective
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>>2595502
>capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector
this is largely short selling how it works, the state and its SOEs not only keep controlk of the backbone of the economy, but also has massive finance capitals investment that isnt directed by capitalist logic, but directed according to planning and social value under direction from the party. Theres a reason they call this socialist market economy, just cause it use a market doesnt mean theres no planning and politically enforced top down direction. Quite simply finance capital is not free but completely subordinated to political will.
Is that risky from marxist standpoint, as it could degenerate into purely capitalist logic without a strong political hand? yes, but it certainly seem to work right now

>>2595502

>The current economy is capitalism with state intervention & a larger state sector
yeah, other anon is correct. they dont have direct state quotas for all sectors of the economy, so its not micromanaged like the soviet model. that doesn't mean they dont have central planning. the party controls the commanding heights of the economy and directs production of raw resources, then lets market competition distribute them according to demand. so if they need houses they put out jobs for concrete and steel, rather than directly building the houses. and this goes all across the economy, once things become socially necessary or strategically important through the natural capitalist development of a sector, it consolidates into a monopoly, and it becomes nationalized and democratically directed. until then the fact that their is competition is exactly a signal that it is not ready for nationalization. and yes this sounds exactly like what liberals say, and it is premised on something like a rising tide lifting all boats, but with china its actually true and with liberals its a scam to take your stuff.

>what is not understood by (nearly everyone?) in these 'debates' is that they are using the same word but they mean something quite different by it.
no thats perfectly understood. im not saying that all capitalist states dont have capitalist interests, they certainly do, im saying from marxist(materialist) perspective this is an incorrect definition of imperialism because it does not center how imperialism is socially reproduced through economic production. its not "wrong" but it is practically(praxis) useless

>In neoclassical economics, monopoly is generally considered the opposite of competition.
thats what im saying, thats what lenin says
>In Marxism however, monopoly is actually a form of competition under capitalism,
no? unless you are talking about interimperialist rivalry but thats not *market* competition

>alan_freeman
isnt this one of those tssi guys that takes bohm bawarks critique of marx on the economic calculation problem(which doesn't exist) at face value and try to "correct" marx by demonstrating his own misunderstanding of ltv?
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but really, imperialism, when a marxist says it, is specifically extraterritorial expansion driven by the falling rate of profit as monopoly consolidation leads to stagnation when technological improvement is saturated across the supply chain in a given legal territory. the critique is not that its incorrect to say that capitalists do capitalist things, its that imperialism is a specific stage of national capitalist development, and saying that capitalists doing capitalist things is imperialism, in order to advocate specific universal policies(both sides bad) based on that incorrect definition of imperialism and dogmatically apply defeat of every bourgeois government in all wars, that is wrong, and that is incorrect. its opportunist phrasemongering

>>2572106
What's the difference between anti-communism and just bad/dumb communism? I think the context determines what's people being regressive and intentionally obtuse vs people who need to be educated or struggled with to get back to a correct line. Either way yes western marxism (which emphasizes the abstract concept of exploitation, as if alienation of your surplus labor wouldn't still need to happen in socialism, since it is what allows growth and upkeep) is bad.

>>2596075
yes but the dprk is weak and somewhat isolated. Russia is stronger but not that strong.
Prc is very strong and would be able to win. Thus prc is our only hope

>>2596075
>this place unironically thinks North Korea is a socialist utopia
Bro. Like China I can understand the logic but. Dude.

>>2595704
>The capitalist class will totally betray humanity.
Rest of humanity. Its almost game over now with predictive capabilities used by glowuyghurs. Its completely game over when police and military are automated.

>>2596075
>Russia because they don't have the tech to do robotic replacement in the near future
Theyll have to submit to Chinese rule or wither away.

>>2596093
NK is heavily militarized in a mountainous region full of extensive underground bunkers and armed with nukes. They have a better chance of surviving than most places.

none of those things will help them at all. you can't dismantle an unjust institution with conventional warfare, it requires an intricate and complex long-term strategy of subversion on a systemic scale.

>>2594782
Seeing Dubai chocolate get shilled in every store makes me sick.

>>2595440
You can do both.
Slave revolts lead to instability in the system and is a demonstration of opposition (which emboldens further opposition).

>>2594934
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>>2594920
he doesn't go to DPRK, he just goes to the DMZ. boring. he also shills DPRK defector bullshit at the end.
>>2594782
speaking DPRK, this video is pretty good, except for what he calls dubai "north korea with a gucci belt." somebody needs to redpill this kid on DPRK and what they went through, and how, no, it is not literally a US-allied monarchist theocracy with slaves… and DPRK's poverty is because of sanctions.

UAE needs to be destroyed

>>2568676
>"Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine
I'm not sure I follow.

>>2568483
>They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China.
once again, you're acting like that's a mutually exclusive explanation. America outsourced BECAUSE they got outcompeted, and America's reserve currency strategy dictated letting this problem get worse because they followed an import based strategy rather than an export based strategy. Past declining empires like the British and Dutch made similar mistakes. The reserve currency thing isn't a meme. These problems all feed into each other. Imperial core capitalists also become seekers of interest and rent, rather than profit, through the process of financialization, which is another reason the industrial base in the imperial core declines. You win power by being more productive, but then once you're at the top you refuse to stay productive, and instead rest on your imperialist laurels, seeking rent and interest, outsourcing production, letting up-and-coming nations outcompete you, and letting money printer go Brrrr because you think you can coup and sanction everyone to death forever.

>>2565792
>You are accusing capitalists of acting capitalistically
nygha WHAT

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>>2595192
I like her Bolivar shirt

>>2591418
just normal burger things