/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2360031
re: Terrorgram plot, it happened last year:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-27/terrorgram-linked-to-alleged-plot-to-kill-labor-politician/105469638
Kid didn't meet dress code lol

>Footage from the livestream shows Patten fitting himself with a helmet, surgical facemask and ballistic vest while wearing army khaki in a bathroom at Newcastle's Civic Theatre and showing off his assembled gear neatly laid out on blanket.
>He then crossed a road and entered Newcastle MP Tim Crakanthorp's office.
>He then quickly exited the office and walked towards the museum in Workshop Way where a staff member can be heard telling him 'you can't be dressed like that', before raising the alarm.
>The employee raised the alarm after Patten entered the building, telling him: 'You need to leave (because you're) dressed like that sir.'
>'Get outside for us please.'
>The livestream then shows the man leaving the museum and placing his knife and bag down on a seat before the doors are locked behind him.
>The man behind the camera doesn't say a single word during the entire seven-minute video as he leisurely walks between the locations.
>After the attack failed, the 19-year-old allegedly uploaded a 205-page manifesto that cited the 2019 Christchurch shooter as inspiration.

* (some quotes from a different article back in 2024)

>>2360051
lmfao. honestly, this guy is probably thriving more than he ever has before in prison living under a total imposed routine. autistic fucker.

>>2254205
> and a reduction in immigration
nah dutton dropped that in january, a bit after he dropped it he even got caught by a tv crew telling an asian immigration agent "vote for me, i'm your guy" which got shown across the country on the 6pm news lmao.

him flip flopping on immigration THREE times and him wanting to demolish canberra and work from home were literally gods gift to the labor party

>>2365614
>"vote for me, i'm your guy"
nvm from what i could find i just mis-remembered it, what he actually did was hint that he was bringing back the fraud ridden golden visa scheme

In retrospect Dutton had to make a horrendous amount of fuckups to lose, to the point you'd think he deliberately torpedoed his own campaign

>getting rid of his 100k immigration target while he was in the lead because he thought he was gonna beat labor so easily he didn't need to even pretend to be anti-immigrant anymore
>then having the immigration agent faux pas making him look even more pro-immigrant than labor
>waiting until 3 days before the election to flip flop back on his immigration target to try and salvage his election chances once it looked like he was gonna lose
>massively unpopular public service cuts that he had to backflip on
>massively unpopular return to the office policy that he had to backflip on
>hanging around former greens senator schizo "Blaktivist" Lidia Thorpe way to much (i think he even made her the deputy leader or some shit)
>the shadow DOGE stuff
>the spectre of the massively expensive nuclear power plant they couldn't name the cost of so labor got to run wild with it

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>>2340607
I’m not caring for anyone I don’t want to care for.

>>2364933
What’s important to note is that the majority of people with Down’s who are high-functioning have Mosaic Down Syndrome, meaning their intellect and most of their body aren’t affected. They’re the ones you see on TV and in public life so you can understand why people would think their disability isn’t a big deal.

>>2362053
One other thing that a lot of "anti-eugenics" advocates like to conveniently leave out is that life expectancy for people with profound/severe disabilities like T21 or high needs autism is on average notoriously low. It used to be that T21 was considered a "childhood disorder" because most people with T21 would die sometime in their early 20s. Now life expectancy for T21 is around 45. Level 3 or high needs autism is actually worse, with life expectancy being around 35. That's because most people with high needs autism die from seizures, health issues that they can't articulate to a doctor so they go untreated, and things like accidents. Most high needs autistics have no real sense of danger so they will run into oncoming traffic or run into bodies of water and drown (drowning is the top cause of death for high needs autistics IIRC).

Even if these people are able to make it to their late 30s or early 40s, death around that time is usually very painful for them.

Better question: how many of you ITT would agree to work in group homes for disabled adults or become special education teachers under socialism?

>>2360506
>But what about everyday care? Poverty puts a lot of stress on families. Having a child with high care needs puts even more stress on families. A rich couple could pay for nannies and carers, or have their child stay at a nice private residential school for children with special needs; these opportunities are not available to the poor.

Not every disabled child can be put in the care of nannies. There are autistic/Down’s kids with pretty awful behavioural issues or who engage in things like SIB who can’t be placed in the care of just anyone. And if you’re a parent of one of those kids, who do you trust with a non-verbal child? How is the nanny supposed to know when your child wants food, is hurt, is tired, and so on?

>>2365434
A am using treat as a noun, dipshit. Every second of value the parasite consumes is a treat.

>healthcare is social-democratic
okay? what's your point? dirty jewish reality is dirty and jewish ooohhh so fucking scary
grow the fuck up. real world means shits not gonna be perfect. i'd much rather some social-democracy exists than none at all
kill all left coms. kill all anarchists. kill all liberals.
kill kill kill

>>2365420
>A treat is when someone produces no value yet takes the value of others
Huawei phones

How bout I treat you to deez nuts.

>>2365458
Except you aren't actually defining "treat", you're just making vague allusions to "value consumed". "Bourgeois" would work under your butchered definition of "treat" but you feel the need to draw a distinction because you aren't actually talking about Marxism. Just your weird fetishized third-worldism.

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@ >>2365232
uhhh this you?

>>2363671
>but I think stalin is wroth reading. incidentally I also think trotsky is worth reading.
b-but you can't read both of them! they didn't agree on everything!

>>2363683
>just typing "no" is a 7/10 rebuttal
huh…

>>2364223
been reading when i get a chance, the general structure and tone is very good. when i get back from work ill edit the pdf with commentary and send it back & you can take or leave any suggestions as you see fit

>>2363772
>>2363790
Point taken, that's a good idea. I think I was kind of trying to convince them of it but it doesn't really belong in something like this.
>>2364212
also a good point
>>2364392
muchas gracias

>>2363581
An act of domestic terrorism would be infinitely more productive than this

>>2363772
>Stop talking about anything even approaching organising armed struggle.
ok but its obvious that cops and the state do not deserve their monopoly on violence. I don't mean ethically, they are simply incompetant failures, and workers simply must take control over hegemony to protect their communities. Saying that "we can trust capitalist agents to do their jobs" is literally like saying "we can rely on Americans, (chanting) AUKUS! AUKUS! AUKUS!"

> No I am not about to commit an act of domestic terrorism.
MOOOOOOODS ANON IS GLOWING AGAIN

im such a good leftist

Jreg deboonked this

>>2364565
it frames the premise of the questions towards it. like if you say you believe in freedom it gives you a +1 to libertarian. to score authoritarian you would have to say that you "strongly disagree" with freedom instead of something more naunced like freedom coming from necessity or being enabled by the construction of a material base of production that supports it.

after a quick scan "Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory." for example. is compulsory education authoritarian? or is being illiterate a barrier to freedom? this example is literally freedom is no homework tier idealism, where a materialist would say having more capacity to act gives you more freedom of choice. the kind of person whos biggest obstacle in life is being told what to do by their parents might think freedom is being able to do whatever they want, while a person without access to education might think they have less freedom because they dont even have the option. the test does not distinguish and will call you hitlerstalin if you think kids should learn to read.

results will be further biased by the fact that you have internet and be able to read to take the test. leftvalues has the same issue where it puts things into a binary opposition when thats not necessarily true, like it will say you are against environmentalism just because you are for industry and vice versa as if human flourishing and environmental protection are necessarily at odds. theres even questions where if you "agree" it will move you away from a position because the question assumes that the statement is negative, but its possible to think whatever it is a good thing or inconsequential. or you could end up with a mess of results because you answer "agree" to a series of things that are contradictory because you think they are all good ideas but which ones should be implemented depends on material conditions, like questions about centralization and bureaucracy. so its less about what you ultimately believe and more about assuming that your talking only about your own country and what applies to the material conditions there, but the framing implies that tendency is universal and doesn't give you the option to say different material conditions call for different strategies.

lol pol"sci"

>>2365319
I would support Putin nuking Azerbaijan
Zionist shithole

>>2365526
How can be a Ukrop if you have dual loyalty

>>2365638
Fucking who cares
It's just another Dolchstoß myth
It wasn't NATO winding you up and throwing you against a superior force in a suicidal charge. It was da juus

>>2364604
>Retarded russians still pushing this bullshit talking point
<DA JEWISH KOLOMOYSKYI IS BEHIND EVERYTHING
meanwhile in reality:

Fine I do it myself
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>>2365683
Took out the reference to ISG put the call to action back in. Let's see if it holds this time.
I'm not gonna check if the links are still appropriate / working.
That is not in my wheelhouse as a very occasional thread maker.

>>2364804
I was one of the alunya impersonators. Can confirm that at least i was impersonating him

Bake the thread now please

>>2364810
Done:
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>>2364359
A lot of it is brain broken contrarianism. They see the baby eating democrats being pro Israel so it doesn’t compute they should also be for it. Also there is a a real country club antisemitism and like legit Nazisim in the Republican Party.

Don’t be surprised Jews that oppose Israel or are neutral on it start getting deported to Israel. There will be a heel turn on the Jews down the line. The Christian nationalists need them all in Israel to fulfill biblical prophecy, Zionist need more bodies for their colonial project, and the antisemitics and fordist get to see the Madagascar plan done. But like the run of the mill reactionary is just picking up vibes and having fun breaking a new taboo.

If anyone else was wondering what a Mauritius was. WTf?

Idgaf if Khameini personally ass rapes every communist in Iran as long as he keeps bombing Tel Aviv.

>>2363971
im glad someone has common sense.

>>2363971
Islamists ain't shit

>>2363971
Idgaf if Netanyahu personally ass rapes every single palestinian in palestine. Only communism matters.

>why don't we back people taking orders from Iraq seizing power in Iran
Are we serious here?

>>2364461
Can you imagine the smell?

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>>2364291
>hangout place where actual political discussion is subsumed by partying vs sterile bureocratic place where actual political discussion is subsumed by formalism
>>2364318
you really need to kys

>>2364466
joshua sutter actually turned it into a "non consensual" BDSM center (I think all "kinkers" are ill, but this guy was doing the legal definition of torture) ,titled "black lodge discipline center", which also doubled as a Power Electronics music project
>and after that an off-grid pseudo ISKCON hindu death cult

As a person who as experienced both multiple times, id also say the anarchists have significantly more people around than the communist spaces. That being said, i also once found a package of bacon that had fused to the floor in the one anarchist house, and it still haunts my dreams. It had become one with the floor tiles.

The best places ive been were not specific in their ideological stance, but meeting places that anarchists, communists and other leftists would meet to discuss actions and coordinate.

Another observation is that anarchists tend to attract more people, and communists tend to be more driven and goal-oriented, yet the anarchists are also the ones that will be more willing to actually do thing while communists will argue about plans and strategies to the point of non-action.

>>2364483
this reads like someone just ripped all of my favourite things out of my head and mashed them into one post.