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Yea or Nay ? I keep hearing about it from from the most random people ,from recycling succdems to anti civs
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Britain used to have a standard European habitat, remember the Channel was only created about 7000 years ago, any animal that existed before that point and could live in either temperate or sub-arctic forest lived in Britain.
This environment mostly stayed until about a 1000 years ago, with the end of the Roman Era, the warlord period that was Arthurian England, and the Anglo-Saxon & Viking Settlements: there was mass scale deforestation. The exact cause of this deforestation is not really understood, sure there was a collapse in classical coal mining so people needed wood for fuel and a population boom and settlers coming over to build themselves settlements, but that doesn't explain the entire Highlands being turned from sub-arctic forest into, well, pic related.

Oh and one other thing, there are a load of Reindeer in the Highlands that are free-range, as they were gifts from Norway for training their resistance movement during the war. There's about 150 of them, I wish we had more.


The point is moot anyways because any effective form of degrowth is basically only possible with planning anyways. It's a set of possible options to pursue in the event that capitalism is in some way impeded significantly, there's no real dichotomy between the two.


Lol, they're not exactly cows, they're much more 'rugged' for lack of a better term. Bison is to the Land Rover Defender as the cow is to the Cadillac Escalade.


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Whenever you point out how schizo and bad the right is they'll sperg about antifa/blm are even worse and therefore the right needs to lash back to fight against it.

How do you respond to this argument?
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Your desire to emulate the right comes from a feeling a weakness. Grow up.


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can anyone explain the weird dichotomy on the right where the left are pussy soiboi LGBT-trans people but also dangerous scary terrorists?

Are they schizophrenic can they make up their mind? is the left a bunch of pussies or a scary threat?


The average /pol/tard thinks that hollywood petty bouj liberals, Xi Jinping and anarkiddies are all working together
It's their way of feeling persecuted while also claiming superiority


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Rafiq covered that in one f his rants. He talked about Jewish bolchevism but it apply to any boogeyman.


this Rafiq rant reminds me of that quote by Hofstadter about mccarthyists, just substitute out jewish bolsheviks for communists and nazis for american far rightists/cold warriors and it still works.

I guess reactionary minds work the same all over the world.

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If we don't end capitalism within 10-15 years, the climate will start going into a vicious nosedive that will lead to climate apocalypse and the human race will be dead within 100-200 years no matter what we do at that point. Literally just the eco-pilled version of "Children of Men", the final hour of humanity in a disaster capitalist "barbaric" mode of production, which IMO is way more likely than socialism/communism or even porky's great reset bullshit even standing a chance.

Maybe a few porkies will survive on a space station or something but I doubt it

song unrelated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABQjT6gDKu0
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So you saw some hecking upvoted american redditor posts and it's cool but burgers are stupid and eat like shit regardless of their intake of meat while human beings I met talked to me about this.


They seem to agree that capitalism is the problem.


Being retarded is good for porky.


Nope, it's all the dogmatic "Marxists" who don't change and refuse to open their eyes.



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What explains the right's bizarre obsession with conspiracy theories? What caused them to be so detached from reality? Every other week there's a new conspiracy from them about satanists and demons or witches or whatever. I recognize that this is a symptom of America's political retardation, but it is not isolated to the US.

I am reminded of the essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics by historian Richard Hofstadter, which goes into the history and details of such hysterias. But it doesn't explain fully why rightists are so dissociated from facts Trump certainly helped it along, but some of these conspiracies i.e pizzagate predate his domination of politics.

It can't just be that they're stupid, can it?
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It is often claimed that conspiracy theories are endorsed with the same level of intensity across the left‐right ideological spectrum. But do liberals and conservatives in the United States embrace conspiratorial thinking to an equivalent degree? There are important historical, philosophical, and scientific reasons dating back to Richard Hofstadter's book The Paranoid Style in American Politics to doubt this claim. In four large studies of U.S. adults (total N = 5049)—including national samples—we investigated the relationship between political ideology, measured in both symbolic and operational terms, and conspiratorial thinking in general. Results reveal that conservatives in the United States were not only more likely than liberals to endorse specific conspiracy theories, but they were also more likely to espouse conspiratorial worldviews in general (r = .27, 95% CI: .24, .30). Importantly, extreme conservatives were significantly more likely to engage in conspiratorial thinking than extreme liberals (Hedges' g = .77, SE = .07, p < .001). The relationship between ideology and conspiratorial thinking was mediated by a strong distrust of officialdom and paranoid ideation, both of which were higher among conservatives, consistent with Hofstadter's account of the paranoid style in American politics.

van der Linden, S., Panagopoulos, C., Azevedo, F. and Jost, J.T. (2021), The Paranoid Style in American Politics Revisited: An Ideological Asymmetry in Conspiratorial Thinking. Political Psychology, 42: 23-51. https://doi.org/10.1111/pops.12681


Hopefully QAnonism survives and they do more pro-democracy demonstrations in the future


they wont, the moment CNN started reporting them they were already dying. The media is late as usual just as they were for the alt right, which peaked around 2017-2018


>karl marx based his theories on the bible
wtf i love the bible now


id love to think they're all stupid but the truth is they're not. Many are highly intelligent schizos

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>corruption in socialist countries
<Your medic won't treat you if you don't give him money (although there's public healthcare)

>Corruption in capitalist countries.

<The local politician has made an agreement with a building company to make a park for 50.000.000$ with a 90% overrun of taxpayers money and when he retires he gets a big position at the company. Also because of this expenditure he had to privatise healthcare and now you will have to pay 100.000$ to get treatment at the Bloodsuckers hospital or die.


I might add the capitalist politician also evades taxes and has a switzerland bank account.


>socialist countries


The USSR when it existed. At least I've heard stories about that sort of shit happening, although anecdotal.


The key is the frequency of it happening. The public has a very short memory span and the porkies know it. They know that even if their corruption is exposed, it will be quickly forgotten about if the media they control stop mentioning it.
On the other hand, corruption in socialism and “socialist countries” are very frequent but with tiny sums of money like 20 bucks. It’s also why anti-corruption campaigns in China or Vietnam are extremely popular.

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>Pfizer, Moderna vaccines have reduced effectiveness against South African variant, studies show

>The vaccines, however, showed a decreased ability to neutralize the strain now dominant in South Africa, worrying some researchers and prompting Pfizer and BioNTech to announce they were taking necessary steps to develop a booster shot or updated vaccine. A day after Pfizer’s announcement, a top White House coronavirus adviser said each vaccine developer is planning to update shots to address variants.


Worst case: We will never be free of covid

Best case: We will have to get a third or even fourth dose or more as "booster shots" to update for new variants
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According to western common knowledge (what the bourgeoisie has made people believe), he brought "democracy" and freedom™ to the "totalitarian" soviet state, of course he is a hit among liberals and people with no history knowledge.


I've heard the charge before that Gorby was more than just a dummy, he was flagrantly corrupt. But I've never seen it elaborated on, is there any truth to that?


Corona-chan is the catalyst. Ee must figure out that how we are doing things just isn't viable.


Is there any way for a non-Cuban to get the SOBERANA-02 vaccine? Once they finish their Phase 3 trials (due to start next month)?



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Can middle class white people, and their cumspawn, really be communists? Or is it just an aesthetic?
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wow great and succinct post


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Edited for grammar


>muh middle class
<in the post pandemic era
The “middle class” is a dead bourgeois meme by now. Anyone that unironically use it as a serious concept to analyze anything is the true litmus test for liberals. You’re not only a liberal, you’re a racist defeatist one at that.


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Tl;dr it's bourgeois idealism predicated on being clever and the denial that your judgements of the world have any value, except when you're bourg and you sell your evaluations as the only valid ones that everyone else has to follow.

Picrel is the embodiment of this, and the smug sense of entitlement that comes along with touting it.


Moved to >>>/b/13628.

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How could one man cuck the right so hard that still decades after his death, they slander him so much to avoid their cuck army learning from and for him
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I see the retards are working overtime today


I am not OP and don’t have much to say about the book. I just think it is a waste to see a thread or any thread get derailed for such an inane reason.


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Erm, Chyna is a nazi state. they are not marxist.


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Half a million dead in the US from coronavirus pandemic: Catastrophe, crime and historical turning point
"The catastrophic loss of life in the US is the outcome of deliberate decisions made by the ruling class and its political representatives to prioritize profit over lives."
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>He left the SWP [Socialist Workers' Party] in December 1973, citing the organization's lack of enthusiasm for the gay liberation movement and failure to develop a "Marxist materialist analysis" of it.
>In 1978, Thorstad was a founding member of NAMBLA

So not only did this Thorstad guy leave the Trotskyist SWP 5 years before he founded NAMBLA, specifically because SWP didn't support his gay idpol, (therefore he wasn't a Trotskyist when he founded NAMBLA); SWP is a completely different org than the org (Socialist Equality Party SEP) whose newspaper (WSWS) published the article in OP >>90884.

On the other hand:
>Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria was a Georgian Bolshevik and Soviet politician, Marshal of the Soviet Union and state security administrator, chief of the Soviet security, and chief of the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD) under Joseph Stalin during World War II, and promoted to deputy premier under Stalin from 1941. He later officially joined the Politburo in 1946.
>Beria was the longest-lived and most influential of Stalin's secret police chiefs, wielding his most substantial influence during and after World War II.
>At Beria's trial in 1953, it became known that he had committed numerous rapes during the years he was NKVD chief.[52] Simon Sebag-Montefiore, a biographer of Stalin, concluded the information "reveals a sexual predator who used his power to indulge himself in obsessive depravity".
>Evidence suggests that Beria also murdered some of these women. In the mid 1990s, the skeletal remains of several young women were discovered in the garden of his Moscow villa (now the Tunisian Embassy).[59]

You have a guy (Beria) who, as chief of the NKVD under Stalin (and who was only removed from his position, put on trial and executed after Stalin's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


Didn't someone from here try hunting down evidence for Beria and it all comes from one source with no proofs?


Finally a Based dose of Authentic Leftist analysis from a real Trotskyist website that puts the Neoliberal Social Democrat “WSWS” to shame, LOL. Authentic Leftists (Maoists, Hoxhaists, Left Communists, and Anarchists) oppose Covid-19 hysteria, as they rightfully view it as a tool to accelerate the 4th Industrial Revolution to Eliminate the Proles, while faux “Leftists” (Social Democrats and Dengists/Revisionist Marxist-Leninists) support Covid-19 hysteria, due to their Bourgeoisie class loyalties (they also promote other Bourgeoisie myths, such as “Climate change” and the “New Cold War”).


Damn it, I forgot to put Trotskyists in my list of Authentic Leftist ideologies.


There's not a whole lot to disagree with in the article, but making a whole thread just to post one article from the fucking wsws is retarded in itself.

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What are small forms of praxis, both online and offline, that people can do?
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Not showing up to work


I trained my coworker to question orders and disobey authority when he can get away with it. Does that count?


Stealing stuff from work
Pirating media
Not being a scabby coworker
Donating to bail funds


I know it sounds mundane, but reading a bit of theory and cross referencing it with eachother can help you better understand shit, as opposed to relying on people who get on constant shouting matches online.

Other than that find ways to become ungovernable. I've started to get into Deleuze and while I'm far from an expert on him, he does raise some interesting points relating to Schizo analysis and how to detach yourself from what pool you find yourself in.

Don't be confined to a space, don't be confined to leftypol or whatever slice of the online left you've found yourself in. Make friends, pick up a new hobby, and make time for yourself.

I've recently picked up gardening and it's therapeutic to me. Maybe go to the gym, watch movies with your friends, learn how to create something, but be slave to none.


Teach others to pirate safely.
Normalize secure communication with other leftists, especially in orgs.
>tfw coworker started talking politics at the bar after work and turns out their a socialist who reads theory

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