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We're gonna burn your books again. The holohoax didn't happen but we're gonna make it happen now. We're not gonna stop at six million. You won't ever have to hear culture war discourse again, because there won't be anyone left but us. We'll make sure history never knew you existed.(USER IS BANNED UNDER RULE 12 )
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>>2228383
Are you going to lose again and shoot yourself in the head?

>>2228383
Ok zionist

thanks Big Dolf

>holocaust didn't happen but Jews are evil

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Ok



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yesterday was the time to think but now is the time to act.
Start thinking like a glowies.
Think sbout how to bring about riots.
Heres a few idea
-loiter on black rock housing
-take over the means of eggs
-piracy


>propaganda of the deed
Nah.

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>>2228666
That's right white boy. Doing anything at all, thinking anything, feeling anything, is glowuyghur shit

Just work, shit, and die
You're so much better than us. We'll have a pizza party at your funeral
You know, pizza we stole while your ahh paid 50 dollars
Cheese pizza



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Well, I never read Capital by Marx, I read couple of more short works of his, but still something is bothering me, Marx wrote in the XIX century, so his work are maybe outdated from my point of view, I think, but I'm open minded, does anyone here actually read Capital can tell me if still worth reading Capital or is relevant to the modern economics theories?
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>>2193810
And my point isn't that you can't magic more oil to exist in the ground, or imagine infinite ingenuity to get around such a thing. Oil is oil. In the past, oil was not needed for anything, and so it existed as a waste product of mining operations that enterprises couldn't wait to get rid of. Eventually you run out of all substitutes that do what oil does for you, but even having a substitute requires technological advance that is not itself infinite.

The point I was making was that the natural resources don't intrinsically hold any relevance, and "scarcity" isn't the argument made by political economy. Management itself is the argument. The manager of labor has to not only do as much as possible in quantitative output, but must ensure that the qualities produced are useful. That is a very different proposition from ecologism, which declares that there are no new ideas ever and the world is fixed into pre-defined zones for "ecology" to be sensical.

>bro, labor theory of value
>this stuff has 10k hours of socially necessary labor time, very valuable
>…

>cool i don't care, it doesn't hold any value for me personally, i ain't giving money for that


Still can't cope with that, i think marginalist were right after all, LTV isn't that sound of a idea.

>>2201696
>velocity is the effective realisation of gravity in the real world, making gravity as a theoretical entity a conjectural redundancy

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i actually did an analysis on belle delphines bath water.
But i only makes sense if her friend is the one filling up the jar.

>>2201656
>he i personally don't want something therefore it has no value
ok and? it was never about you personally. stupid retard.



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Why do the radlibs who claim that income has absolutely nothing to do with class and that artists and actors are totally proletarian even think Marx used these definitions? If proletarian is such an arbitrary category that contains many people who objectively do NOT have a self-interest in revolution then what purpose do they think these categories serve in regards to Communism? Marx defined them for an actual reason, you know.

>inb4 thread deleted because god forbid we don't talk about something that isn't American or Chinese electoralism
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>>2228594
i cannot stress enough how reproduction is part of subsistence wage. necessary labor is not just enough for the worker to live, but enough for them to live AND raise 2 kids. otherwise the capitalist will not have a future generation of workers to exploit, and will have to outsource, or bring in immigrants, both of which are also unsustainable because it relies on other countries having a high birth rate.

>>2228598
At a base line it's just enough for the worker to reproduce themselves daily; the capitalist is under no haste or prerogative to actually provide enough to raise a family in the short term. Even long term, and as you alluded to, this can eventually be resolved by means of outsourcing labour. We have to remember that the number of children is also contextual to the scope of industry and production; two children my be reproduction levels here (or even one child in scaled down and automated production), but not at all elsewhere where the scale, scope, and mortality require more to reproduce the proletariat.

>>2228598
>>2228615
But yes, as Cockshott points out in his analysis, this is ultimately still unsustainable in terms of reproducing enough to offset the falling rate of profit. But that doesn't mean the capitalist won't squeeze till the wall is hit.

>>2228615
well in the long term for the capitalist class to reproduce itself, the proletariat must reproduce itself. no proletariat, nobody to exploit. nobody to exploit, no exploiters. no exploiters, no capitalism

>>2228619
I agree, but I think the fundamental issue here is that they largely don't look long term. It takes capitalists as a larger class hitting that wall head first to realize "oh no, we may be running out of workers". There's also the issue of time that we're running into in modern capitalism; you can give all the money you want, but if there just isn't enough time or physical energy to have a relationship and raise kids in the developed world, it just isn't going to happen (i.e. Korea, Japan, etc.). And it's fundamentally time that results in the value that capitalism is predicated on and what capitalists necessitate.



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The fact of the matter is that in most, if not all, South American and Hispano-American countries, women are discriminated against as a matter of course, from citizenship laws to professional life to paternalistic familial structures and domestic abuse, even feminicide. This is clearly not a purely Hispanic affair, since, with perhaps the exception of Scandinavia, it exists in various degrees throughout the world. But the fact of the matter is that even if it’s often used as a pro-American/Israel or neocon club to bludgeon Latinos on other, unrelated issues like American interventionism.

I look at it as being similar to Soviet charges against US treatment of black citizens. Did pointing out the Jim Crow laws make Siberian gulags or Eastern European oppression any more acceptable? Of course not, although it may have scored Moscow some points in the world arena by pointing out American hypocrisy. At the end of the day, though, the answer to Stalinist accusations of racism should have been the civil rights movement, not a denial of segregation. Likewise, to my mind, the oppression of women and minorities and homosexuals in Latin America is not directly related to the Inter-American conflict, but it is very important to me, and I don’t see that there’s any contradiction in my struggle to fight for my wife’s right to marry who she pleases, legally own land and work at any job she wants to in Guatemala and her right to return to and live in Mexico.

I don’t think that the knee-jerk reaction that many people, especially those who don’t live in the region, have to dismiss any and all criticism of Latin American states and/or societies as apologism is helpful at all. In fact, it plays into the rhetoric of pro west puppet LatAm states that justify blatant gender discrimination, macho culture and the persistence of transphobic violence or legal discrimination as we have seen with the surge of new conservative Christian moments in places like Central America. For my part, an equitable solution to a fractured Latin America conflict should be about self determination for Latinos not about and their struggle to create a commkncounter-hegemonic project.

The point is not to attack Hispanic Culture it is to not pretend it is some noble cause above all. Its okay to critique, it's not perfect, especially as a Marxist it is okay to do so.
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>>2227667
Well, then you are extremely ignorant because LatAm having the highest murder rates on the planet also means they have the highest rate of femicides and for example targeted killings of trans people than any other region (combined).

>>2228332

Very few of those killings are a result of etnic violence, most are over land dispute, and common thuggery

>>2227797

>arab

>afeghanistan

Retard

>>2228401
>land dispute
>not ethnic violence

My brother in Christ, land disputes in Latin America are innately tied to ethnicity.

>>2227797
>Afghanistan
>Arab

80IQ latinx moment



 

It is now illegal to be anti-Zionist in the United States.

I repeat, IT IS NOW ILLEGAL TO BE ANTI-ZIONIST IN THE UNITED STATES.

I hope all of you who voted for Trump (or didn’t vote at all) on the basis that “Harris is worse” or “there are no differences between them” can go to sleep easy now. Trump was never a “peace guy” and was always in-bed with the Zionist entity’s far-right.
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>>2224037
>(Rule 12 - low-quality reactionary content)
The true sign of a unimpeachably correct and based post.

>>2224040
Pathetic post

>>2219337
>>2219344
Thanks to legal political donations the US is for sale and Israel brought it, it was only a matter of time but for Trump he's all about helping a corrupt war criminal so Bibi being in charge helped Israel's case.

>>2219417
revisionism and unfunny

>>2220146
> America doesn't kneel to Israel
No it gives Bibi 45 minute standing ovations and $40 billion annually. Retard

>>2219985
> Israel actively trains US police officers.
For tremendous amounts of money, because every cop and soldier in America is brainwashed into thinking Israelis are the best at war and oppression. Meanwhile, every fbi agent gets antisemitism training from the ADL.

>>2219907
We can share zog and acab komerad.



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Part of why large cities may feel small or even cramped despite their size relative to other cities is the lack of actual space the average person has to freely move around. Most of the infrastructure available is built for only specific people in mind or even just a single person. The more buildings and infrastructure that gets built for a select few or even a select demographic, the harder it becomes for city dwellers to move around in their own space. Ironically enough, this can create the sense in most people that the city they inhabit is actually very small just off how limited their access to the city itself really is.



 

What is the material explanation for why intellectual elites hate Israel yet support Ukraine tooth-and-nail?

For context: I’m a college senior at an elite university in NYC. Even though pro-Palestine protesters here have been heavily repressed the vast majority of faculty are pro-Palestine/anti-Zionist and very openly so. However, they are also extremely pro-Ukraine which is something I don’t understand. They keep saying Putin is an evil dictator and Ukraine needs to be supported in order to “save global democracy” or some bullshit. Yet, “save global democracy” is the exact same excuse Zios use for why westerners should support Israel. If they can understand how “democracy” is a farce when it comes to Palestine why can’t they also see how it’s a farce in the Russia/Ukraine situation?

It’s bizarre how run-of-the-mill progressives like my profs sound a lot like neocons from 20 years ago. I’m only 22 but I do activism with people a lot older than me and they’ve made this point as well. “Spreading western democracy” was the excuse Bush used to invade Iraq. Now it’s used by DEMOCRATS and PROGRESSIVES to launch war against Russia. What gives? Also, why are cultured elites the ones sounding the most neocon now?
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>>2228097
swallow your meds or a bullet. either one. both will solve the problem.

>>2228107
I hope you're not posting from the front that's an easy way to get kalibrated lmao

>>2228038
>be Ukrainians
>stand up in own house
>"this is mine"
>get invaded by Russia because its fascist regime thinks they own foreign countries

>>2174435
who is this based twink

>>2171457
Russia with Putin in charge is a ticking time bomb and everyone knows it. You’d have to be a lunatic to support Putin or think he has anyone’s interests but his own in mind.



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hello sorry im writing this while its almost 4 am and im feeling sort of blackpilled

im a bit of an apocalyptist schizo and i can see that the way things are going the technocratic class is probably just going to end up automating everything while the working class is liquidated out of existence. a major problem with technology is that it has a tendency to intensify the stakes of contradictions since the concentration of ownership it affords means that workers inevitably have fewer and fewer bargaining chips

the only way this can be avoided imo is through a political movement that is distributed throughout. imo the problem with a more centralized approach to achieving communism is that it doesn't really preserve any bargaining chips. i especially dont like approaches that are class collaborationist in some way because that always opens you up to corruption as well. if you dont have any real basis materially for worker control, then you are just hoping whoever is in charge has the right ideology which imo seems really idealist to me sorry

on the point of parties i feel like they are of course important but such things need money and property to truly be effective. you can only strike for as long as you can actually pay rent and eat. hence the cost of sustaining yourself is a fundamental limit to your bargaining power. currently things are much worse seeing as how much agriculture is owned by large corporations. beyond this, money is useful for expanding social outreach and controlling narratives. you can also use it to exert soft power so more people hear about you. it definitely feels like current parties could do more and part of this is the need to secure power and not just raise consciousness

for these reasons i think there is merit to integrating the party structure with worker cooperatives and stuff like what the acp is doing. i dont even like haz but he seems to be trying out new ideas that are worth actually trying out. another nice thing about the workers coop thing is that you have a bit of propaganda of success thing going on. when people see how successful and efficient such an enterprise, there is much more rhetorical force behind socialist arguments

also i feel like now is actually the time to really get going with this stuff? the trump administration has gut the reach which the glowies had so there is now a bit more space to like actually do communist projects. patchwork doesn't need to be neo-reacPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2228119
Mf this aint /d/

>“Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.”
<― Karl Marx, German Ideology
/thread
every radlib opinion above do not matter

>how do we actually the socialism
please do not the cat

>>2199150
> science forbid we ever teach an ai to be socialist.
could we teach an ai to an hero

>>2170259
Two state solution(nothing to do with Palestine) we need an underground state with its own constitution and self sufficiency and tax system to create an alternate state. The Soviets were such a thing.



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Prominent '48 Palestinian activist placed under Israeli administrative detention, triggering protest
The 73-year-old was arrested in his hometown of Umm al-Fahm, within Palestine’s 1948 borders, last Wednesday after Israeli police, intelligence agents and Border Police guards raided his family home, the Palestinian news agency Wafa said.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-places-48-palestinian-activist-indefinite-detention

Fed Up With Israeli Displacement Orders, Palestinians in Gaza City Refuse to Leave
That morning on April 11, Adel Murad, a 43-year-old public school teacher, fled Shujaiya with nine of his family members to the western Al-Nasr neighborhood to escape Israel’s intense aerial bombardment. But they did not stay long; the following day, the family decided to defy the Israeli orders and return to their home.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/gaza-city-israeli-displacement-orders-kill-zone

Mass protests erupt in high schools in Turkey
The education trade unions argued that most of the teachers who were replaced were “dissidents” and that loyalty to the education system and the government, rather than merit and performance, were the main criteria for appointment.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/16/rruy-a16.html

Homelessness surges in Brussels
Around 4,000 people were reported staying in emergency shelters or in empty buildings with the owner’s approval, on the night of the count. Another 992 slept in public spaces including metro stations, marking a 23 percent increase since 2022. Out of these 992, more than 600 were in municipalities on the outskirts of Brussels, indicating that the problem is spreading beyond the city center.
https://www.politico.eu/article/homelessness-surge-brussels/
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>>2228112
>That would align with the 13-year wait until more complex biotech drugs become eligible for Medicare price negotiations.

Biden's big win.

Thanks newsanon

>The announcement from Leaders We Deserve, a group Hogg co-founded in 2023 and of which he serves as president, did not name any specific candidates the group plans to support. The group said it will not challenge "front-line" members facing tough reelection battles against Republicans or "older Democratic leaders like Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi" who it said have been taking on Trump and Republicans successfully.

lmao of course

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Thanks News Anon

Ten Brits Who Served in the Israeli Army Accused of Gaza War Crimes as Hamas Challenges its UK Terror Designation
Hamas enlisted a team of British lawyers to represent its appeal to the British Home Secretary and to challenge the movement’s terror designation. In the new episode of Drop Site Newsroom, Jeremy Scahill speaks with barrister Franck Magennis, one of the lawyers arguing the case on behalf of Hamas. Magennis is also involved with the legal effort to bring war crimes charges against ten British citizens who served in the Israeli military in Gaza. A 240-page dossier the attorneys delivered to Scotland Yard’s war crimes unit alleges the Brits participated in targeted killing of civilians and aid workers and indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas, including hospitals and other war crimes.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hamas-legal-battle-uk-terror-designation-franck-magennis

Nationalising the losses: Labour’s emergency rescue for British Steel
On Saturday 12 April, Keir Starmer recalled Parliament to pass emergency legislation aimed at keeping Scunthorpe’s steelworks from closing their gates and preventing an immediate jobs massacre. This came following the collapse of talks between the Labour government and British Steel’s owners, Jingye. On the day this legislation passed, angry steelworkers even prevented employees of the Chinese investment firm from entering the premises. British Steel is not yet nationalised, though this eventuality seems likely. Instead, the new legislation grants government ministers ‘special powers’ to direct private steel companies in England, where necessary. No amount of tinkering will suffice, however. Now is time for bold measures. The disaster looming over workers in Scunthorpe is a warning of the catastrophe coming for the whole of British capitalism. The crisis in the steel industry is the canary in the coalmine. To defend our communities and livelihoods against this devastation, we need socialist planning and workers’ control.
https://communist.red/nationalising-the-losses-labours-emergency-rescue-for-british-steel/

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