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 No.545723[Reply]

Thoughts on the shifting dynamics of labor power? I'm personally pleasantly surprised at how what was once thought implausible is happening and the pendulum is shifting away from capital and toward labor in terms of bargaining power.

The first incarnation of this trend seemed to be entirely "unconscious" if you will, and was triggered by the pandemic and workers spontaneously and collectively deciding to reconsider their the deals they were getting selling their labor, forcing wage increases and other worker-friendly structural changes.

This recent bit of news points to a more structured and consciously organized labor movement, with 100k workers across various unions preparing a synchronized strike action:

>Workers in various industries nationwide are threatening to go on strike in a sweeping effort to secure higher pay and better working conditions.


>More than 100,000 unionized employees — between Hollywood production crew members, John Deere factory workers and Kaiser Permanente nurses — have overwhelmingly voted to authorize strikes and are preparing to join the picket line unless they get stronger collective bargaining agreements.


Source: https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/576456-more-than-100k-workers-threaten-strikes-as-unions-flex-muscles

What is most promising is the level of coordination and unity across industries as it is proof that the fragmentation and atomization of workers has fallen short . Thus a key barrier has been overcome.

Does these two developments hint at a resurgence in labor movements for the first time in decades? Capital has succeeded for decades in crushing collective bargaining, but they could not have anticipated something like the pandemic forcing their carefully planned arrangement to slip out of joint.
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 No.545739

>>545730
>Simple union action and consciousness doesn't mean anything
It does if it's a sudden and spontaneous uptick class struggle after decades of low activity.

 No.545742

>>545739
Again, all these unions are anti-socialist to their core, most would even vote against social democratic reforms like Medicare for All to keep their own seprrate health plans

 No.545774

>>545730
>>545742
Still is it not better to have union actions rather than have capital go completely unchecked?

 No.545784

>>545742
You're missing the point m8. If the trend of intensified struggle continues, and yellow unions continue to fail to deliver on what workers really want, then either they will be forced to change or will be made irrelevant as workers flock to labour organizations that are actually on their side. Dismissing a sudden resurgence of class struggle because it has yet to break from the influence of reactionary unions is incredibly shortsighted.

 No.545790

>>545784
>>545784
I concur, workers even remembering that they have the option to strike can only be a good thing



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 No.545036[Reply]

Brazilian Maoists are not in a peoples war however they have been fighting the Brazilian state/army which is trying to take their land. I presume Brazil is going to privatise it or sell it off to imperialists.
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 No.545639

>>545634
so it's all assumptions and basically this thread was created by someone (possibly a cumskin or a candace owens of maoism) who soyfaced at a bunch of peasants in brazil and stuck the label of maoism on it?

 No.545646

>>545639
I'd assume so.

 No.545647

>>545639
Probably, their are triying to show that there are struggles in the third world who they can claim respect by osmosis.
But as the marxanon pointed out, talking about something akin to the peasant army Mao did in Brasil is fantasyland.

 No.545659

>>545647
So Maoism is nothing but a lifestylist cope. Got it.

 No.545735

>>545579
Bring it to their attention, anon. Mods aren't as powerful and all seeing as you'd expect.
>>545623
If you want to play that game, they aren't maoists, they are fully and completely Zapatistas.
The image even says, "Land is of those that work it" a quote directly from Emiliano Zapata, re-popularized by the Zapatistas.



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 No.543778[Reply]

How big a motivator is spite in right wing thinking? I'll link the classic article by ames
http://exiledonline.com/we-the-spiteful/
>If the left wants to understand American voters, it needs to once and for all stop sentimentalizing them as inherently decent, well-meaning people being duped by a tiny cabal of evil oligarchs—because the awful truth is that they’re mean, spiteful jerks being duped by a tiny cabal of evil oligarchs. The left’s naïve, sentimental, middle-class view of “the people” blinds them to all of the malice and spite that is a major premise of Middle American life.
<Some people say that the Democrats are actually getting bolder and more vicious. I don’t buy it. What Gore and Pelosi and the others on their bandwagon are really trying to do is snuff out the real rage before it spreads and threatens their fake opposition. It’s a classic strategy in big politics: Co-opt the opposition, suck the life out of it and dump its dried-out shell on the side of the freeway, where it can never bother you again.
>This is America, not Denmark. In this country, tens of millions of people choose to watch FoxNews not simply because Americans are credulous idiots or at the behest of some right-wing corporate cabal, but because average Americans respect viciousness. They are attracted to viciousness for a lot of reasons. In part, it reminds them of their bosses, whom they secretly adore. Americans hate themselves for the way they behave in public, always smiling and nodding their heads with accompanying really?s and uh-huhs to show that they’re listening to the other person, never having the guts to say what they really feel. So they vicariously scream and bully others into submission through right-wing surrogate-brutes. Spending time watching Sean Hannity is enough for your average American white male to feel less cowardly than he really is.

<The left won’t accept this awful truth about the American soul, a beast that they believe they can fix “if only the people knew the Truth.”

>But what if the Truth is that Americans don’t want to know the Truth? What if Americans consciously choose lies over truth when given the chance–and not even very interesting lies, but rather the blandest, dumbest aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.544011

>>543942
Maupin isn't just conservative as a tactic he's actually an unironic protestant

 No.544012

>>543947
one time expenditure on new hospitals is a perfect case for mmt deficit spending

 No.545715

>>543778
Im no burger so I cant be sure, but arent they a bit (or rather, completely) delusional ? ppl voted for trump because he showed having their interest at heart (or so they thought), promised to re-industrialize, make sure white proles got jobs and remove their illegal competition, all things dems had apparently forgotten about while they kept championing global capitalist tech industry, delocalization and divisive idpol.
sure, we think they're basically doing very similar politics anyway, but the media discourse doesnt reflect that (as chomsky say, very narrow debate space, but very intense)

>The underlying major premise of humanist-leftist ideology assumes that people are intrinsically sympathetic, reasonable and fair, and are only spoiled by nefarious

>also everyone voting trump is a nofun sexless protestant that only vote to spite me
fucking retarded libs

 No.545719

>>543822
>hello lib
<immediately devolves into idealist liberal conceptions of Marxism
this is bait, right

 No.545816

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>>543778
>you must hate the masses
>you must disconnect your self from the masses

OP is full of shit and probably a glowie capitalism stimulates the worst in people, socialism will seek to stimulate the best in people.



 No.545487[Reply]

NO NOT MY ANIMU!?!?
ITT we discuss what will become of Nippon amidst the Second Cold War/potential Third World War
Will Japan continue its “alliance” (cuckery) with America?
Will the Japs recognize that war with China at America’s demand is a pointless suicide and just not do it?
Will they even side with China to keep getting them cheap manufacturing gibs?
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 No.545533

>>545531
they were momentarily interrupted in the 2000s iirc but yes

 No.545540

>>545525
Only half of the voting age population bothers to turn out, even lower than the US, and about a third of that half bothers to vote for the LDP. It's not that simple.

 No.545560

>>545515
Not true, they import a lot of cheap labour from SEA.

 No.545568

>>545487
>Will Japan continue its “alliance” (cuckery) with America?
yes
>Will the Japs recognize that war with China at America’s demand is a pointless suicide and just not do it?
based on reason #1 100% no
>Will they even side with China to keep getting them cheap manufacturing gibs?
no because of nanking

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 No.544907[Reply]

I’m asking this because I find it to be a good question
The United States is desperate and I mean DESPERATE for control over South America to the point where nearly every South American country has all of its infrastructure deals regulated or directly funded by the USA ultimately explaining as to why development in that continent is so inconsistent or why countries like Brazil and Mexico face active economic decline and stagnation or other South American countries that are so plagued with exploitation and corruption to the point where some South American countries face worse conditions than in Africa

And that brings me to Haiti, that countries problems with corruption has gotten so deep that it’s citizens have gotten so fed up that they’re now trying to flee the country entirely if it means escaping corruption and that ultimately brings up a question of how long can the haitian government allow exploitation and how long can the USA maintain it. If the USA simply stops allowing haitian migrants or actively stops them from fleeing anywhere else they’re not gonna go back to continue being exploited, same logic can be applied to much of South America and likewise if no political reforms happen you get coups and potential for pushes towards aggressive behaviour like what happened with Russia and Iran as they faced seemingly endless sanctions only to grow as a bigger security threat to the west
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 No.544947

>>544945
So we have
>a government so useless that it’s civilians are willing to move to anywhere else to get away from it
>climate change
>the risk of a dissolution of a state
>and all of its neighbours having a future almost exactly as shit with multiple South American countries seeing declining life expectancies
Holy shit Americans better prepare and stock up on ammunition because when NATO finally gets destroyed as it’s been wearing out for decades not a single self respecting man in South America isn’t gonna want to violently beat the living shit and kill every American on the face of the earth

 No.544950

>>544945

Haiti isn't flat, you moron.

 No.545435

Question are there any other countries like Haiti in history that have faced concerns over their states dissolving due to rampant corruption?

 No.545439

Feel bad for my Haiti bros. This shit is just sad what happened to them

 No.545449

>>545439
It’s worse when you realize that the entirety of South America has had to put up with similar if not exactly the same problems for decades



 No.541367[Reply]

Is there a materialist explanation as to why the residents of this corporate dystopia are such unimaginable simps for authority and have a fetish for being ruled with an iron fist? They literaly get out of their way to swarm any discussion about it to tell everyone how great their system is and how everything outside that island is a wasteland of anarchy and thuggery. I met a girl that straight up told me how proud she is that her government "takes care of her speech so that she doesn't have to worry about offending someone and creating a disturbance"
The residents of SG literally petitioned the government to break diplomatic ties with taiwan because they held a play that mocked the practice of brutally flogging people for minor charges, because it "insulted their way of life"

It's fucking disturbing
How do you manage to break a human soul this bad?
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 No.545105

>>544957
>I fail to see a resemblance between China and Singapore
Their respective economic (and political) models are very similar.

 No.545107

>>545105
In what way? Explain.

 No.545116

>>541367

As far back as the 70’s, the left on a mainstream level got behind all manner of government overreach. They vehemently supported early waves of migrant communities and organised for decades in terms of gender, race and equality. It should not be astonishing that in the absence of any real sense of identity or religious ideals, the state and its ideas are able to fill the void.

This is the right wing perspective.

The left wing perspective seems to be that whilst all these ideas are innocuous and that issues with immigration are a fascist fever dream, they want corporations to be more outwardly fascist. They don’t want banks and billionaires standing up for historic left wing ideas because it’s embarrassing for them to be associated with power. So begins a brand of class exclusive leftism, which rejects liberalism to either save face or for authentically ideological reasons. The thing is, I have NEVER seen a leftist demonstrate or stall that doesn’t feature some kind of idpol.

So that’s why, historic conditioning and the states ability to take advantage of a void.

 No.545227

>>545107
>de facto single party state with sweeping powers of repression
>primarily capitalist economy (measured by GDP)
>core strategic industries nationalized
>market economy operating within the limits of comprehensive state planning

 No.545392

>>544348
Dengoidism is a direct adaption of Singapore's system with a thin veneer of socialist terms sprinkled on top so the ruling class can benefit from Mao's legacy and legitimize their silent coup, including opening up the party to capitalists (now including several hundred billionaires) under Jiang Zemin's three represents theory



 No.541774[Reply]

What is your honest opinion on the CHAZ / CHOP? Was it a complete disaster or was it some anarchist utopia that was the victim of bad press? Or was it something in between?
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 No.545208

>>545204
>Man, I'd be fucked, especially as a "tankie". Remember that people like Agent Kochinski have incited violence against Marxist-Leninists before on multiple occasions.

None of them are threatening and most likely will abandon their block once someone decides to smack them around and steal their cash.

 No.545212

>>545208
Also forgot to mention that Agent Kochinski is a fucking creep. I wouldn't doubt he'll get cancelled because he decided to harass a chick at the commune.

 No.545225

>>545204
>>545208
>>545212
Sorry to put a dent in your imagination and paranoia but real people who do this kind of stuff most likely don't care about internet celebrities and posers. If anything those get only contempt. You won't get a beating by "chaz breadtubers" for autistically praising Stalin and I bet there were a number of MLs there. The infighting was most likely between people advocating for violent tactics and pacifists

 No.545231

>>545225
>The infighting was most likely between people advocating for violent tactics and pacifists
Yeah and just people trying to co-opt the movement/dramafags

 No.545381

>>541774
Anyone that takes CHAZ/CHOP seriously is either a glowie or a complete moron.
Kinda goes to show that America doesn't have real left, only retards.



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 No.545114[Reply]

Now that Elon is developing humanoid Androids with general AI, how will this change material conditions? Will it make wageslaves obsolete?
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 No.545175

>>545120
I can't help but feel bad for this dude, he was probably one of those aspiring actors that come to LA thinking he's gonna make it into a big Hollywood production.

Instead he ends up wearing a fucking spandex suit for the reddit king.

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 No.545203

>>545175
>I can't help but feel bad for this dude
Yeah that was pretty undignified, but his performance was solid, so maybe that got him a better gig.

 No.545228

>>545114
How did you managed to post a thread with less than 150 characters?

 No.546252

>>545114
Elon doesn't develop anything, he takes welfare from the government and owns the companies where engineers work.



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 No.545199[Reply]

>multiple if not all South American economies are facing spending crises that have lasted for years fucking up with the per capita GDPs of these countries to the point where multiple South American countries have populations poorer than Africans
>multiple South American economies see life expectancies in active decline with some of the most noticeable examples being Mexico
>corruption in these countries runs so deep that the threat of migration is enough to dissolve these states or tear them apart in civil wars
>not a single one of these countries beyond Cuba is ever gonna reach first world living conditions
>drug cartels, human trafficking and worker exploitation has actually increased generally in latAm leading to civilians and children that had nothing to do with the geopolitical tension in these countries killed in the crossfire with the west’s nah fuck it just America’s refusal to end the war on drugs perpetuates this endless violence
>governments refusing to industrialize or invest in infrastructure that would benefit the needs of civilians while rapidly increasing the revenue of South American countries
Holy fucking shit, I’m not sure why bourgeoisie Americans even bother continuing to exploit South Americans all these problems coupled with waves of migration only mean an increasing portion of the American worker population is gonna want these idiots hanged and America as a state dissolved if it means not facing anymore exploitation or the belief South America will have any kind of peaceful future

 No.545201

>>545199
Latin America sorry not south but latin



 No.536845[Reply]


>the Tuvan government built an increasingly religiously dominated political structure, the Soviet Russians laid the foundations for a new leadership, primarily by making connections among Tuvan youths. Among the measures taken was the creation of a "Revolutionary Union of Youth" movement, members of which were militarily trained, and several Tuvan youths were sent to the Communist University of the Toilers of the East. In January 1929 during the Second Plenary Session of the Central Committee, five of the youths educated in Moscow launched a successful coup d'état, deposing Prime Minister Donduk and his faction. The new government launched a cultural revolution


>5 teens overthrew the tuvan theocracy


literally how
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 No.540736

>>536867
A small, comfy country that existed between the USSR and socialist mongolia and ended up being part of the USSR during WWII.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic

T-Thanks HoI for teaching me this

 No.542189

>>536845
This bitch has the aura of twitter incarnate.

 No.542226

Don't have a lot knowladge on this, but I can bet its just because Tuva was already highly unstable and discontent with the current regime and only needed a little spark to blow it up. Not because some 5 revolutionary supermen willed the revolution into existance through sheer will, thats idealism.

 No.544129

>>539602
Buzzkill

 No.545004

>>538849
If they are of other people. No.
If they are of her. Yes.
If they are of you. Yes, but use caution; invest in mood stabilizer pills and tell a friend where you are at all times.



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