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If USSR comitted Katyn, and Nuremberg decided not to say anything about it, like Katyn cultists claim,
why is it then that Soviet Burdenko commission was submitted to Nuremberg as a proof, and Nazi commission results under the name of "Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn", despite getting submitted, was declined by Nuremberg after a review, which claimed that:

>In any case, we believe that we have shown enough gaps, errors and inaccuracies to be able to recognize the statements made by the Germans in the publication "Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn" as material that does not withstand accurate scientific criticism, and thus recognize it as having too much propaganda character. In making this conclusion, we used only precise substantive reasoning.


Funny, right?

Oh, and as a bonus, Mednoye, which is often presented as a proof that Soviets were killing people in places other than those which were later occupied by Germans during the war, as it turns out, was actually occupied during the war, and 2nd pic is an order to recapture the settlement from Germans

Also also, check out present day Russia historiography on the issue. https://noo-journal.ru/vak/2025-1-42/kornilova-otritsanie-soobshcheniya-komissii-burdenko-v-katynskom-dele/ They call shit that happened in Russia in 1990s in regards to Katyn "Burdenko commission denialism"!
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>>2400403
Because communists taking on themselves an obvious German warcrime is fucking stupid. What next, are you going to partake in the oppression of Poland in Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, when Soviets in reality weren't oppressing/dividing Poland?

We defend the USSR because anticommunist slander hurts everyone.

>>2400939
I'm just like a Red Army soldier defending the Soviet Union


>>2400559
>Let's get rid of this ultra nonsense. States have a right to exist insofar as they create an avenue for the self-determination of a people. That's how internation relations and law works, generally. Members of a ruling class can be reeducated, there is no need to exterminate them. The Red Army spared the lives of captured German generals in Stalingrad.
<Muh bourgeoisie right
<Millions of proles dead in the bowels of war and poverty, but if you happen to execute the unrepentant ruling class of a country, that's a step too far.
Nah, not on board with this one. Out of everything the USSR is accused of, I'm pretty sure the only people that care for Katyn are anti-communist Poles who already have an axe to grind. Out of all of the ridiculous myths and slanders levied at the USSR, "the anti-reactionary communists executed the reactionary military elite of an establishment that watched the Holocaust happen at their doorstep and in many cases assisted in it" is real down low for me.



 

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<Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie Edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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remember when nazianon kept saying this epstein stuff was an overblown hoax? Turns out the DoJ was ignoring the financial transactions tied to him
>A few days ago, as the Jeffrey Epstein scandal gripped Washington, Senator Ron Wyden offered a striking revelation in an interview with The New York Times. The Oregon Democrat said that his investigators had discovered that four big banks had flagged to the Treasury Department $1.5 billion in potentially suspicious money transfers involving Epstein, much of which appeared to be related to his massive sex-trafficking network.

>“I am convinced that the DOJ ignored evidence found in the U.S. Treasury Department’s Epstein file, a binder that contains extensive details on the mountains of cash Epstein received from prominent businessmen that Epstein used to finance his criminal network,” Wyden writes in the letter.

https://newrepublic.com/article/198247/trump-epstein-fiasco-ron-wyden

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>>2400328
at 1000 lbs it's no longer about becoming beautiful but about not dying

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>>2399342
>Oveja
Jajajaja

is the country sizzling or fizzling?



 

The annual Socialism Conference in Chicago is just a few short weeks away! Have you secured your ticket yet?

https://socialismconference.org/

The subject came up in the current /ukr/ thread, >>2279417 , specifically the 2019 article by The Gray Zone outing many of the participants as USAID/NED funded glowies:
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/07/06/dsa-jacobin-iso-socialism-conference-us-funded-regime-change/

And the weaksauce rebuttal for what little it's worth:
https://newpol.org/in-defense-of-socialist-internationalism-answering-the-propaganda-of-the-authoritarian-left/

This thread is for discussing the upcoming event, which I think is safe to say will be the tastemaking event of the year as far as pseudo-left talking points are concerned. Why not get a preview of the hottest psy ops and troll topics of the coming year BEFORE they hit forums near you? It's GLOW-CON!
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>>2400844
>How well I remember the discussions I had with Friedrich Engels at his house in Regent’s Park Road – how, championing the view taken by our Party, I denounced the opportunism of political action in all its hues, treating all voting, whether municipal or parliamentary, as a treachery to the cause of Socialism. I was convinced that nothing but barricade revolution was the true pathway to the future society, and that hence the most important function of Socialists was to watch for the first signs of the upheaval we believed to be imminent, and to capture the movement when it came in the interest of the “class-conscious proletariat” and its “dictatorship.”

>I can also recall how severely critical, not to say scornful, Engels was of our theory and tactics, notwithstanding the fact that for personal reasons he favoured our side in the “split.” He spoke contemptuously of a dictatorship as superseding democracy, declaring that complete democracy was a necessary stage in modern social evolution, besides pointing to the similar theory of the Anarchists, and more especially the Blanquists (deriving from Babeuf), which overlooked the disastrous blunders they were only too likely themselves to make in their dictatorial handling of the revolution. (Perhaps some readers may be inclined to regard this as prophetic of the adventure of Lenin, Trotsky and Co.) Engels disparaged all attempts at “short-cuts to Socialism,” contending that the only effective policy for Socialists in getting hold of the power of the State would be to gradually socialise the various departments of industry as they became ripe for absorption by the public power. He laughed at our attacks on “Parliament” as an institution, saying that some sort of representative assembly was obviously necessary, whether you called it Parliament or not. What is more, Engels defended the then ultra-opportunism of the German Social-Democratic “fraction” in the Reichstag. And it must not be forgotten that all this was only two or three years after Marx’s death, and was given as representing Marx’s views as well as his own.


E. Belfort Bax describing Engels' views, in Two Bolshevist Intellectuals, 1920: https://www.marxists.orPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2400853
Wrong. Social democrats were never marxists. This is why marx was Communist not socialist

>>2400862
>Muh trust some faggot scum saying some waffle about Engels that was one of the traitors in ww1 that turned around and supported Britain's entry into ww1

>>2400876
E. Belfort Bax wasn't someone we should admire in his own politics, but he was never known as a liar. Most of Bax's claims above can be backed up with authentic Engels quotes.

>>2400825
Thanks



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I can’t help but find myself hating white people, they have killed billions at this point and somehow they are the victims, I am glad that I from Bharat can go to a white county and take it from them
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Saar! yo ok?

>>2401389
Sponsored by (((..)))

>>2401110
sup pol whatcha doin?

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saar pls help me i am indian saar

"killed billions" china
mongolia
japan
rwanda
indonesia
iran
iraq
india
i could go on



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So let’s get this straight: living in the West is one grand petty‑bourgeois dictatorship, clothed in advertising jingles and social‑media virtue signals. You wake up every morning in your cubicled existence, shoved into the spectacle of capitalist consent, told you’re “free” as long as you consent to your own consent. You pedal your overpriced latte, you swipe your credit card, you scroll your curated feed, and all the while you’re under the iron heel of the small‑property class, those pious managers of your desires who define what you can buy, what you can think, and whom you’re allowed to love.

What makes it petty‑bourgeois?

Because the dictatorship isn’t administered by some grand commissar or charismatic cult leader, but by your local real‑estate agent, your start‑up HR drone, your neighborhood organic coffee baron. They don’t send the tanks, they send you push‑notifications. They don’t issue decrees through official state media, they drip‑feed you “influencers,” “thought leaders,” “proudly independent brands.” Your entire world is policed by taste, the right avocado toast, the right “woke” hashtag, the right artisanal soap. Dissent? Of course it must be sanitized, “inclusive,” packaged in a recyclable meme, or it doesn’t exist.

But isn’t this just consumer capitalism, you ask?

No, that’s the mistake of liberals who think if only we could shop from another boutique or vote for a different brand of politician, everything would be hunky‑dory. This petty‑bourgeois dictatorship is totalizing. It permeates the smallest crevices of your life, from which podcast you’re allowed to listen to, to which brunch spot you’re encouraged to Instagram. It claims no grand utopia beyond itself, it is content to suffocate you in tiny comforts and endless noise.

And the ideological apparatus?

Forget grand state newspapers, today’s censors don’t burn books, they bury them under Amazon bestseller lists. They replace ideology with algorithms that punish “harmful” opinions by de‑ranking you. They cultivate your self‑censorship through “community guidelines,” spectral supervisors that haunt every comment section. You think you share or like of your own volition? Cute. You are parroting the newest directives of the petty‑bourgeois commissariat, be yourself but only this version of yourself.

What’s the solution?
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>protestant idealism
Anti consumerism is good for the soul but let's not pretend it's revolutionary in any way

>latte
never drink those
>instagram
don't have one
>artisinal soaps
don't use that
>your local real estate agent
haven't talked to them
>your start-up
don't work for one of those
>HR drone
never spoke to one
>influencers
don't listen to those

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>>2398276
i hate genpol

>>2398199
and here i thought i was ruled by the porkies owning the whole block the coffee shop is in and the start up the hr drone works for.

thanks based OP

>>2398274
>kombucha
>overpriced latte
>neighborhood organic coffee baron
>your b4rista
"We must abolish the libidinal economy of desire" lets get fucking Lyotarded

>>2398276
kombucha is fermented tea, matcha is concentrated green tea. They have different metabolic health benefits like comparing yogurt/kefir and milk.



 

Why do you communists cry about american sanctions on cuba when you dont even believe in the free market? Also isnt communism supposed to be self-sufficient why would cuba need to trade with an imperialist power like america in the first place?
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>>2400889
the people making things. the people mining the metal, the people driving it to the warehouse, the people picking it up, the people refining it, the people shaping it into various specialized parts, the people assembling various specialized parts from various supply lines into more specialized products.

and yes, how to effectively and efficiently organize a society in a way in which these many different people in different places can reasonably and meaningfully be involved with the planning of production, is a legitimate question, one that socialists regularly disagree about, and its something to be worked out. the premise of socialism is that it is possible to work out and should be worked out. if you want to do your debate club routine, you should start with trying to argue that it is impossible

>>2400900
so you want to have a socialist society…
yet you dont even know what socialism is?

>>2400908
are you a child or just an idiot?

Have you read anything Marx ever? Where did you come to the conclusion that trading under communism is bad

>>2400917
here are your words:
>the planning of production, is a legitimate question, one that socialists regularly disagree about, and its something to be worked out.
implying that you havent "worked out" the plan yet.



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I was looking for a thread on left-wing print media on here but couldn't find one. What are your favorite outlets and why?

I've been reading a lot of the Monthly Review lately and really liking it, though I am confused why JBF gets so much print space (love the guy, but seems like he should widen the field a bit). Cosmonaut regularly puts out good stuff too but I'm not a fan of the editorial bias that comes through on their podcast.



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>crushed philosophy
>undermined diamat and dialectics
>replaced materialism with naturalism
>wrecked anti-class theories
>tore down humanism
>flattened leftoid ideology
>scrapped subjective/objective truth
>abolished teleology and determinism
>destroyed critical theories
Nothing personnel, kid.

literary who

>>2373404
explain

>>2373404
>nooo i can't use lefty b over at /siberia/ i have to make /leftypol/ lefty b!!!!11
Why are you faggots like this?



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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Бамп

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Бамп наследниками товарища Ильина

Некая блогерша Мария Шалаева похвасталась, что слетала в закрытый аэропорт Ростова на военном самолёте вместе с сыном и «человеком из Кремля». Позже она удалила видео, но в Сети остались его отрывки, в том числе с… кадрами секретных полётных карт.

По её словам, самолёты туда летают, но «не все и не для всех». Кто именно был её спутником, она не сказала, только отметила, что это не военный и не ФСБшник, назвав его «Мистером Икс».

После резонанса в соцсетях генерал-майор авиации Владимир Попов сообщил, что будет проведена проверка. Он подчеркнул, что Минобороны РФ не оставит ситуацию без реакции.

Разбираться будут не только с блогершей, но и с экипажем, который пустил гражданских на борт. По имеющимся у СМИ данным, к «Мистеру Икс» уже пришли на работу.

Бамп во имя самого свободного и дешевого интернета

Выше



 

It's the Durham Miners' Gala this Saturday, are you going? Local Reform Cllrs are fucking furious because they aren't being invited.

The body was too short or empty. The body was too short or empty. Flood detected.
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>>2391350
>i want ireland to be unified
What's your plan for how to do this?
Because despite all the huffing and puffing for decades, no one has suggested a practical plan for how unification will work. What will happen with pensions? Will people in the north want to lose the NHS?

LMAO at the CPGB-ML poster earlier
Weird ass cult mfers obsessed with hatred for LGBT people, uncritical hero-worship of Stalin, defence of SOIC (a revisionist position), and trying to present themselves and rough working class lads with their mandatory "proletarian haircuts".

You will never be taken seriously and will never represent the British working class with your wacky ass idea of forcing party members to dress a certain way, normal people don't like that shit.
Nor will you gain support by your anti-proletarian delusion that all working class people are culturally far right and hate gay people. Overwhelmingly the British people, especially the younger generations, don't care about gay people. They don't want them imprisoned like you weirdos.
Even if the working class absolutely hated homosexuals (they don't) that wouldn't make being anti-LGBT the correct position, because Marxism is a science and based on materialism, not on what you mistakenly believe is the popular stance.
Read some fucking theory.

>>2388729
>It needs really to be more like the Dems tbh. A coalition of other left wing parties and groups that all agree on a largely material bread and butter issues (economy/immigration), then allow free voting on whatever social issues or whatever, leadership of the party should basically never comment on social issues as well, take the Anthony Albanese route.

Are you referring to wanting to be more like American Democrats?
If so, just remember that they're mainly liberal left.
They're not true left at all.

Also:
>The overwhelming majority of British people are homeowners. Not among us young people yes, but most of the country aren't youth and youth voters are notoriously unreliable support base because most will grow into Libdem/Centrist types as they move into their 40s.

That's like saying older people are unreliable voters for right wing parties because they were liberal before age forty.

Also, consider that leftism is generally unpopular to begin with. Young people are your only demographic.

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>>2391657
This was true of White South Africans as well, and despite all the /pol/ bleating they've not had it so bad on the whole. You might point out that they all left, but they weren't expelled.
Or perhaps Bantustans were the way to go after all. Mandela was insincere and actually, it's white genocide for the rich to realize they'd rather emigrate than pay tax in a multinational state.

>>2391749
grotesque equivocation.

I am sick of all the slander of the REAL Movement. So here is a list of everything CPGB-ML has done:



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