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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<"Minneapograd" Edition


>Don't worry, US government. This thread is NOT for planning proletarian revolution in the USA, it is just a never ending struggle session for making a small group of Americans on this website apologize for what their government did to the world. If they disagree, that only proves that they are guilty and they want to feel like victims.


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>>2655689
Why exactly do you think adventurist martyrdom would accomplish this?

>>2655691
when you nail him down he just throws out wild accusations until one of them successfully baits you into arguing back. he's trying to bait you into changing the subject. just stop replying.

>>2655691
You live in the blowing up children capital of the world, where you enjoy the spoils afforded to you by children getting blown up. When people say "stop doing the things that enable the blowing up of children", you shit your pants, because you're an accomplice.
>>2655693
One less american taxpayer to fund bombs for blowing up children

>>2655704
You live in fucking Germany, hypocrite. You think they don’t suck IDF cock?

>>2655031
Not sure if parody or not 10/10



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I'm black pilling hard right now guys, fact is that it isnt just Trump. Its Putin, Xi, The fall of the Entire Eastern block. The imprisonment of Maduro. The fall of Argentina to Mile. The genocide of Gaza and and the total impotence of the Israeli left. The 9000 lives of US hydras in Syria, where whoever wins, the USA is always one of them! The death of Rojava. Iran (just like Iran generally). The left is systemically spasmodic and I think it might be nothing more than the tremors one experiences at death. I cant help but feel that the left has failed utterly and is dead.
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>>2654900
I know, but they're inconsequential anon. There might be a few "leftists" in Israel (imo their primary concern as leftists should be to get the fuck out of there, but whatever), but there is no "Israeli left"

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Born to late to experience the first socialist revolutions, born to early the experience the next revolutionary socialist wave, born right in the era of the blackest reaction

>>2654890
This isn't feudalism, it could be a slave economy, or maybe capitalism. It is too vague of a definition.
Anon, please start reading theory.

>>2654925
Frankly you are being a pedant, because you know what I mean, you are beholden to rich powerful interests.

>>2654920
Just as the Frankfurt School reimagined the left, I think it falls on us to do this same thing now. In regards in particular to places like Chins.



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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Clashes around Aqtan prison. It also seems that the US coalition has arrived in the area, probably to make sure the prisoners don't escape.

Abdi's in Damascus.

>>2654998
Arab cope map lmao

Hesen Şero: Gang cells want to stir up trouble in Cizîr.
Militant groups affiliated with the interim government in Damascus are continuing their attacks on the prison located between the cities of Raqqa and Shaddadi, where ISIS militants are being held.

Hesen Şero, Co-Chair of the Executive Council of the Cizîr Canton Autonomous Administration, stated in his statement regarding the issue that the ceasefire was clearly violated by the militia groups affiliated with the Interim Government of Damascus, and that clashes were continuing, especially in Şedadê.

Hesen Şero stated that numerous gang cells affiliated with the Provisional Government of Damascus were attempting to stir up trouble in the Cizîr Canton.

Police attacked the march in Amed, and resistance spread throughout the city.
A march was planned to protest the attacks by HTS and other militia groups, supported by the Turkish state, against Northern and Eastern Syria.
The march, which was attended by Democratic Regions Party (DBP) Co-Chairs Çiğdem Kılıçgün Uçar and Keskin Bayındır, as well as representatives of political parties and civil society organizations and numerous citizens, was blocked by the police.
Following this, the public marched from the Human Rights Monument in Koşuyolu Park, chanting slogans.
While some citizens fainted during the police's use of tear gas, the protest continued in different locations.
Young people who gathered in the city's side streets also continued their marches. The protests are continuing in scattered groups on many streets and avenues of Amed (Diyarbakır).

SDF: Shaddad Prison has been released from the control of our forces
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Anyone noticed how when it's election time in the US advocating to vote third party is dismissed on the basis of them not having enough traction but inbetween elections (like now) nobody is working to build popularity for third parties for election season? What's up with that? The Republicans are deranged MAGAts and the Democrats are utter useless pussies and EVEN NOW you can't work to build traction for a third party? So you guys are just waiting to cynically vote for the Democrats in two years? Or perhaps you will abstain from voting altogether because of whatever impotent principle you cling to.

Honestly, what the fuck are Amerifats even doing?
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third parteis have no chance because the system had made it impossible for them to prosper, the only way a third party might win is by being funded by a billionaire.

Anyways, i dont vote at all

no i didn't notice because i'm not american
now get the fuck back to your containment thread

>>2652012
French and greek people called, they want to smack some sense into your bitch ass

>>2651997
>Honestly, what the fuck are Amerifats even doing?
Honestly real

Despite the fact that the two parties are currently very strongly merged with the state and getting a third party on ballot or getting past gerrymandering and voter suppression can be very hard, that could be changed if we started at a state level and worked up. The truth is a successful enough third party would be able to win and trigger a split between the legislative and executive branches (which is already underway anyways surprisingly) and likely bring up much more fundamental issues of state power being being beholden to the bourgeoisie in more sinister ways. Fundamentally our elected representatives don't hold real power, the deep state, which consists of unelected officials, the permanent members of the military, the supreme court, police, the bourgeois media, bourgeois think tanks, private security, and three letter agencies, holds power.

If we had a communist party that didn't tail democrats, that focused on studying the issues important to working class people and finding the solution that's in our best interests, and went door to door popularizing their policy positions and building alternative media based on face to face interactions, they could likely become a huge presence. Instead they do other shit, god knows why

I was told we should not engage in bourgeois politics and elections.



 

are decades happening, or is it just lib bullshit? I have my doubts honestly, what to you think?, I think this will end up as usual, first worlders will sit there and take it, and it will fail
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>>2653871
>Otherwise it's a waste.
Main positive effect of the Palestinian protests, or Occupy Wallstreet, or CHAZ might have been radicalization. Did BLM achieve some results, banning of choke holds in 31 of 100 largest localities and probably other things like reducing discrimination and policing of schools in several localities? Certainly the Civil Rights movement did achieve great ends. What makes these different?

>>2654039
whatever is or is not achieved, we fuckin need all hand son deck, or we're fucked

>>2654039
All of those “gains” are getting rolled back. If you want them to stay permanent you can’t allow the conditions for that to happen again. You have to push people further left.

In regards to Jake Lang I'll repeat and add on to what I said in the US politics thread.

I can't remember an instance of a right wing figure getting their ass beat by mobs of protesters. Like there was the guy who punch Richard Spencer but again it was by one guy, not a whole mob. To me it seems that the people are done putting up with MAGATs and their reactionary schizophrenia.

Also from the reactions from right wingers on Twitter, it seems they thought that with Trump in charge they could finally leave the internet and terrorize people IRL again. Only to learn that everyone hates them and aren't putting up with them.

So going forward I doubt we'll be seeing MAGATs trying to hold rallies in Minnesota or showing their faces in general.

>>2653835
On the one hand it's genuinely radicalizing lots of libs and this could have been used by a competent party to greatly grow an armed body and contest state power. This seems even more legitimating to such an idea than during the anti-police protests, since this is a federal occupying force that's been given explicit immunity from the law for all actions, including murder, rape, and theft. On the other hand it's a totally manufactured political crisis. The strings are being pulled by the far right elites in line with the Heritage Foundation and they are creating polarization on purpose. People's living standards, besides the new stronger possibility of being brutalized randomly, haven't changed much and the rise in consciousness seems limited geographically and to the left. There's no competent party to take advantage of the situation and lead the people.



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idk, just a statement I made. A lot of their officially recognized "banners" (they don't use the word flags for some reason) are either too complex or have words. This is just a flag I made in their likeness (and in the American one), yeah that's all, ig
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Lol, OP is such a dork.
Your flag looks bad btw.

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>>2650983
nah, this is a more fitting demsoc flag

Why would an internationalist movement have a national flag?

>>2652152
Have a great day brotato

>>2651530
https://store.dsausa.org/collections/prints/gear
There are plentiful other flags available elsewhere, but these are just some that they seem to officially sell, and hence, endorse.



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Did Gorbachev cause the fall of the USSR?
I live in the United States and we were always taught that he did but it was somehow a good thing. I understand that Gorbachev wasn't the one who collapsed it and that it was Yeltsin who did, Gorbachev's reforms just caused it to happen because it caused so much nationalist sentiment to brew up, but I still think he is somewhat responsible. It was reckless and stupid to abandon Marxism-Leninism for Social Democracy and it was also reckless to let the eastern bloc have elections knowing that the CIA would mess with them which they did. I understand that stagnation was a problem but he should of listened to Deng's advice rather than allow so much nationalist sentiment to brew up and illegally dismantle your country, I understand that the USSR kind of sucked domestically but foreign-policy wise it was the most moral superpower to ever exist, and the bar is very low.

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The USSR collapsed because its birthrates collapsed. A liberated population would consume much more than an oppressed working class population, and when you combine this high demand for goods with low supply of labour you got shortages. It is what it is.

>>2654366
>The USSR collapsed because its birthrates collapsed.
This is more stupid than the people who think the USSR just broke down because "socialism doesn't work".

>>2654365
W Hakim

Mario should of stopped Gorbachev when he had the chance

>>2654366
You are retarded. Self-humiliation through stupidity



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<"Someone Post The Video Of This If It'S Real LOL" Edition


>Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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>>2654038
it's not testable. by predicting it out loud i have ruined the blindness of the experiment.

does anyone else think /usapol/ is just this website's /b/? That's what /siberia/ is supposed to be but… it's slow and horny compared to /usapol/

>>2652445
i wonder how many of your authors mail in AI slop

>>2653749
But would he sing?

>>2653854
<New research published in the International Social Science Journal suggests that the relationship between personality and political beliefs in the United States varies significantly by age. The findings indicate that higher levels of neuroticism are associated with liberal ideology among young Americans, but this association is absent in older generations. This generational divide implies that growing up in a highly competitive historical period may play a role in shaping both the mental health and political orientations of American youth.
This feels like such a weird assertion to make in the face of the Cold War. I suppose it makes enough sense that the current median of "the older generations", the average of which now being the youngest Boomers and oldest Xers, were the ones growing up through the 70s/80s to see the Cold War be in this weird limbo of heightened tension in proxy conflicts and media/rhetoric only to have it wind down during the latter half of the 80s. The thing is, until that point, during the whole duration of the Cold War, people were anxious of nuclear war, and that fear and paranoia was heavy, if not all-consuming for the many families of those that worked for the MIC, so it's very weird to say that younger people are more neurotic because they grew up "in a highly competitive historical period".

I'm not even trying to pull a Boomer-ism. If anything, the world we're seeing today is a return to pre-WW2 if not pre-WW1 norms (actually the scarier fact), but I feel like it's a tough argument to say the Cold War, even in the latter days, was less competitive. I suppose that the older people are "less neurotic" because, despite the anxiety and paranoia of the Cold War, they lived their 20s/30s in the 1990s, when the Cold War ended, Communism melted away, and the US enjoyed being hegemon of a truly unipolar world (for a fleeting 10 years); it's possible that, from their POV, the relief of the Cold War ending allowed them to forget the anxieties of the years prior and just remember that in the 70s/80s, they were having fun, struggling with jobs, getting married, and that all the threats of nuclear exchange was just bluster (which, ironically despite their neuroticism, younger people seemed to have internalized into the idea that nuclear war will never happen or is a trivial thing, whichPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Thread dedicated to 20th century cultural products NOT just coming from the USSR but the entirety of the communist bloc. Comrades on /leftypol/ need to familiarize themselves with superior socialist culture.

This thread promotes sharing:
>music (popular and modern/composed)
>movies, cartoons
>toys
>newspapers
>etc.
from 20th century AES.

Please act in a civil manner and shit on capitalist culture.
thx

>Cute ears that captured the world: The miracle of Russian Cheburashka

<How a Soviet cartoon about loneliness, friendship, and hope turned into the country’s biggest modern film success
https://swentr.site/pop-culture/631093-cute-ears-that-captured-world/

One of the biggest redpills for me was just looking at AES vs. capitalist cartoons from the era.

capitalist
>aggression
>sex
>GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT

AES
>solidarity, morality, ethics, anti-imperialism
>avant-garde + socreal
>serves the common interest over profit motive

vidrel: Czechslovak cartoon about KRABI

Even politically repressed artistic talents in the USSR were superior to politically repressed artistic talents in the USA.

vidrel major example: absolutely mind-blowing modernist genius

yes, he was a Christ-cuck, but a Christ-cuck that emerged from a socialist country, molded by it, and achieved never before seen artistic heights

mandatory



 

Support
> Collective land ownership through state-assigned kleroi (allotments) worked by helots.
> Mandatory communal meals (syssitia) for all citizens, funded by individual contributions.
> State-enforced austerity and discouragement of private wealth and luxury.
> Public upbringing (agoge) for all male citizens from age 7, minimizing family unit primacy.
> Citizens referred to as "peers" or "equals" (homoioi), ideologically downplaying class distinction.
> State-controlled education and lifestyle, subordinating individual choice to collective needs.
> Iron currency to discourage trade and accumulation of private portable wealth.
> Military service as the primary citizen vocation, not private farming or trade.
> Redistribution of land
> Theoretical common ownership of helots (state slaves) as a productive resource.
> Strong social pressure toward conformity and equality in daily life among citizens.
Against
< System based on a hereditary elite (Spartiates) dominating a enslaved majority (helots).
< Wealth disparities existed and grew among Spartiates despite official austerity.
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>>2653075
Were they masc4masc?

>Most of the "against" facts typical of the average state bureaucracy, including the Soviet nomenklatura.
Not unless you believe the most outlandish liberal propaganda about the USSR. Sparta was a brutal and rigid class society in which a tiny minority violently terrorized and exploited the vast majority of the population, who were somewhere between slaves and serfs. The final test to graduate from the agoge and become a Spartan citizen was to murder a random helot. They literally hunted their exploited class for sport. It was not socialist by any absurd stretch of the imagination. If you want to insist on there being an ancient Greek state that was "closest" to proto-communism (which is a nonsensical statement since they were all slave societies) it would probably be Athens by virtue of higher social mobility. Moreover if you actually adhere to historical materialism, a mercantile society is closer to socialism in terms of developing the social basis for it.

>State-enforced austerity and discouragement of private wealth and luxury.
>State-controlled education and lifestyle, subordinating individual choice to collective needs.
>Strong social pressure toward conformity and equality in daily life among citizens.
Not communism. Read Marx, read Lenin, stop believing American propaganda about the USSR, and stop being a fascoid retard.

>>2653075
Athenian pederasty was an elite practice, it wasn't practiced by the common mass of Athenians tmk. Meanwhile, Spartan men almost certainly were homosexuals seeing as they were confined to male only agoges and ate in a common and didn't marry off into a household until their late 20s or sth.

>>2653913
>Spartan men almost certainly were homosexuals seeing as they were confined to male only agoges and ate in a common and didn't marry off into a household until their late 20s or sth
Wasn't that only the elite too? Like, citizens and not slaves, which were the majority



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