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Why is China willingly wasting it's time and resources with the AI thing rather than continuing to develop the productive forces while they're still ahead?

Is the idea that they can lead the west into going all-in on something fruitless with the knowledge that China can tank the damage, merely leading the AI race to get the west to hurdle faster at it? Like the AI race is a tunnel painted on a brick wall? Why would western tech companies knowingly charge into a brick wall like that? Like I know they're stupid but surely not that stupid.

not too sure if this is a /leftypol/ or /tech/ thing, sorry.
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>>2563243
>Why would western tech companies knowingly charge into a brick wall like that? Like I know they're stupid but surely not that stupid.
they're absolutely that stupid. the US "AI bubble" in the stock market is the biggest stock market bubble in US history. It is even bigger than the one that led to the great depression. You have to understand, over 90% of increased GDP in the USA over the past year comes from the AI bubble. And what's more important is, the entire AI bubble is perched precariously on top of Nvidia's chips, but Nvidia doesn't even make chips. They just design them. Taiwan manufactures the.m. So this also accelerates the reunification crisis between "Taiwan" and the PRC. if reunification happens, burgers are cooked in the AI race. Listen to Norton.

>>2601580
Is Bluey kino? I keep seeing it around and the artstyle is appealing to me. Hows the writing?

>>2601371
>Okay but is that machine learning or AI though?
Thats like asking if a golden retriever is a dog or an animal. Machine learning is a subset of AI.

>>2601775
Really good overall! I play it for my 1.5yo kid and we both get to enjoy it. It's written to be a show where a lot of episodes have lessons for both kids and parents, and a lot of great background plotlines for the parents to pick up on as they binge watch with their kids. The lessons are good, the characters are lovable, and it's not annoying baby babble like 90% of little kids media. It's an engaging depiction of childhood/parenthood that can be really sweet and, particularly in the case of the episode "The Sign", heartbreaking.

My main criticism of it is that it very much centers an upper-petty bourgeois lifestyle with parents who have a ton of free time, own a pretty large home, and send their kids to a fancy waldorf school. Basically all of the characters in the show enjoy this privileged life (there's actually a pretty funny subtle joke where a French poodle has 9 kids, the implication being because she's rich and Catholic), and kids/parents from more common (working class) backgrounds aren't even acknowledged, let alone shown. I don't necessarily have an issue with kids shows presenting an idealized depiction of childhood, but the idealized depiction has a distinct class character that's pretty impossible to ignore. It's not sinister like Paw Patrol, which is straight-up copaganda banned in our house, but as a working class parent I know there are going to be times where I'll have to have tough conversations with my daughter, where I have to explain that not all parents can do and provide what Bluey's parents do.

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>>2563243
>Like the AI race is a tunnel painted on a brick wall? Why would western tech companies knowingly charge into a brick wall like that?

There's a lot going into it. In part, it's less that they're stupid and more that that's where all the money is, so that determines what their companies do. Culturally, the high tech bourgeoisie also want to obviate the need for their pmc, especially after these minor rebellions related to palestine.

But in private, if you talk to anyone involved in ai, they'll admit that the math doesn't make sense. The chance of actually profiting off of the insane amount of money invested at this point is practically zero. The majority of people don't like ai or what it represents. It's actually useful applications are very narrow. No one really needs or wants it, but all this investment is predicated on the idea that it will be everywhere, doing everything, and somehow all these people that ai replaces are going to spend money on it to the tune of trillions of dollars.

I think as far as these ai developers are concerned, individually, there's nothing they can really do about it. That's where the money is to the point the us gov has more or less pledged to backstop them economically. Divesting from ai is akin to ordering the sea not to come in.

I'm speculating here, but I also think that, as a class, ai is considered an essential technology to the bourgeoisie for a number of reasons. The pmc has to be disciplined and ideally eliminated as a significant economic and social factor. It also represents a further enclosure of the digital, intellectual cultural commonses, increasing bourgeois control over these areas.

Further, intellectual automation helps mitigate the demographic crisis of whicg the western bourgeoisie are currently on the wrong side of the ratio. To use the disparity between China and the US as an example, China has, what, three or four times the population that the US does? In terms of productive output, the US simply can't compete with that. A lot of noise has been made about China's population decline, but even assuming that trend and the US's remain static, how many decades would it take before they reach parity?

I think realistically speaking also, the forces which have prevented the US's own population decline also aren't liPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2600935
like I said, my question was less about CPUSA specifically. the question came to mind because I was looking on their website to see if they said anything about browderism, band they did have negative things to say about it. You're correct in saying that it's just rhetoric and you have to look at their actions, but it got me thinking about the more general question of changing organizations from within. Obviously you can't do that with bourgeois parties, but can you do it with degenerated communist parties? It's a theoretical question meant more generally. You are probably right that it's not worth doing it with CPUSA specifically.

>>2600632
>le revolutionary moment
Is not going to happen. This is not Tsarist Russia, nor Imperial China, Nor Imperial Ethiopia, Nor Colonial Vietnam, Nor whatever, nor ever will be. Get your head out of your memes. Let us live in reality. You will never shoot it out with the government and win. It will never happen. The armed forces will never decide, "whoah, I guess the communists students are more popular than the government, so let's overthrow the government." And that didn't work out in Ethiopia. Just stop. Be realistic. We live in an actual democracy. If the majority of people wanted communism, we would have it. But they don't.

>>2601193
You will never win shooting it out with the government and the armed forces. Even if you got every single person who is a civilian to rise up against them you would never win shooting it out. They have a million trump cards. It's such a ridiculous fucking premise.

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>The Trident II D5 missile system has been a critical component of the U.S. strategic deterrent capabilities since its introduction.

Russia showed in the field there is no way to intercept these warheads.

>>2601680
Oops don't know why the bongs called there missiles and subs the same thing.
Ohiooo hioo hioo hioo.



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Nah, what is this thread even for at this point? To be repeatedly asked our own equivalent of
>But do you condemn October 7th?
for years and years?

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Tried to bake >>2601953

>>2601927
to inform people that comes in, also to counter propagandized people. yeah.

>>2601885
not little pigs, but underpigs.



 

Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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>>2578974
many such cases (actually all such cases)

Election protests in Honduras as Congress panel vows not to validate result

Officials of a Honduras Congress panel threatened on Wednesday not to validate the result of a Nov. 30 presidential election, citing an "electoral coup" and "interference" by U.S. President Donald Trump, as counting stretched into an 11th day.

While the ruling LIBRE leftist party has no chance of winning the election, it is throwing its support behind Salvador Nasralla, of the center-right Liberal party, who has also alleged fraud and said he has won the election.
It is unclear if Wednesday's declaration by the permanent commission of Congress, which escalates the election crisis, could be enough to annul the results, which must be validated by two of the three members of the National Electoral Council.

With more than 99% of ballots counted, conservative Nasry Asfura of the National Party was about 40,000 votes ahead of Nasralla of the Liberal Party, while LIBRE candidate Rixi Moncada was a distant third.
But inconsistencies in roughly 15% of the tally sheets require further review, heightening the political suspense, as those could be sufficient to sway the election outcome.

<could honduras become the 1st country to defy the us under trump?


More audio recordings have leaked implying election fraud

>Honduran president Xiomara Castro announces that she will denounce an alleged "electoral coup" to the UN, the OAS, and the EU, accusing U.S. president Donald Trump of "interference."



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Revolution almost always requires a brutal civil war so that a new society emerges from it. But the ideal of a new society never emerges immadietly after. We see it with the french revolution, and then the russian revolution. The american revolution seems like an exemption from this. Why is that?
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>>2553950
>There isn't much of a question of "what is to be done" or executing loyalists en masse or what have you because the loyalists could just fuck off to Canada and the Patriots who could risk turning on the revolution could be bribed with further expansion.

This is true but honestly when it comes to the American revolution people do downplay the violence between Patriots and Loyalists more than they think due to a lot of American Historians wanting to make it out like the US was the best kind of compromise while the French Revolution "went too far" even though there were a lot of lynchings and land seizures of Loyalists. In fact, the word "lynch" comes from the judge Charles Lynch who went out and did extrajudicial violence against the Loyalists at the time.

While the American Revolution wasn't that revolutionary it was much more violent and would have been much more like being in a Civil War at the time then modern people realize due to how it's been written about by historians. In fact, there's a good argument it has a lot more in common with the English Civil War then many people realize.

>>2561210
*true to an extent

>>2554983
So why does the left never talk about "socialized relations of production" being dominant and held back by a reactionary capitalist class?

If those relations don't exist then communism isn't possible and the question of revolution/civil war is irrelevant.

Revolution is dialectical way for accumulated (quantitative) changes to shift to new quality, so if anything doesn't happen then was no material foundation for it

>>2553637
With mass surveillence and predictive AI revolutions become impossible. Even in 3rd world they can ask assist from imperial core to give a list of potential troublemakers. Mesnwhile proles are celebrating this as crime rates go down.



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Interested to see if we have any contrarians here who can explain why the RSF is good and anti-imperialist actually. They're secular and portrayed as the bad guys in western media, so they're probably the good guys?
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So this is the multipolarity that was promised

The UAE's strategy is to create interdependence on global, often conflicting power players in order to carve out its little colonialist enterprises in Africa and Yemen. So they submit to US military dominance in the gulf, help Russia avoid sanctions and just signed a new trade deal with China. They also offer a safe haven for oligarch money. This way they can fund this arab supremacist, genocidal RSF and no one tells them to stop

>>2584404
60 000 dead 150 000 missing.

South Sudan army moves into Heglig after ‘tripartite deal’

South Sudanese troops have entered the Heglig oil field in West Kordofan after an agreement with Sudan’s warring parties. The field processes some 130,000 barrels of South Sudanese crude for export via pipelines in Sudan.

The deal requires both Sudanese parties to withdraw from the field and allows South Sudanese forces to protect oil installations to prevent sabotage, Nang said. The aim is to “completely neutralise” the area from combat as battles intensify across the Kordofan region.

South Sudanese troops will not participate in any military operations inside Sudan and will maintain strict neutrality, he stressed, adding the SSPDF’s mandate is limited to securing oil infrastructure vital to both countries’ economies.

The deployment follows the RSF’s takeover of the strategic site on Monday, which forced SAF units to retreat across the border into South Sudan, where they surrendered their weapons.

Economist Wael Fahmy told Radio Dabanga that the RSF’s capture of Heglig is significant but will have limited economic effect. Revenues from the sector have become marginal and “consequently, oil is no longer a vital resource for domestic consumption for the government.”

Heglig’s production has fallen from 65,000 barrels per day to around 20,000 since fighting between SAF and the RSF escalated in April 2023. As reported by Dabanga yesterday, the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) withdrew from Sudan after three decades, citing deteriorating security in the West Kordofan fields.

https://www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/south-sudan-army-moves-into-heglig-after-tripartite-deal
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Aren't they committing a genocide right now?



 

How will the drop in students and workers coming from south asia and china affect american economy? Everybody knows not enough Americans study medicine to be able to fulfill the need for doctors in USA. How else will it affect usa? Could it end up being good for the global left in the long term if it leads to a chronic crisis and loss of faith in capitalism?
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>>2597534
The masses of Africans and Latinos trying to enter America can certainly make up for any loss in laborers caused by the drop in Asians, but EDUCATED ones(as in actually important stuff like engineering and medicine) is a different story. I'm pretty sure all the valuable educated ones are already entering America, so there isn't any "surplus" of them to fill this deficit. Basically, America is screwed long term because their education system is ass and mostly produces high school dropouts, financiers, lawyers, and other such useless-to-the-tech-race-against-China people.

>>2600802
No I did not mean blacks and latinos trying to enter the USA. I mean those already in the USA. Finally the educated blacks and latinos will be given attention for these 'educated' jobs. Life will go on.

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>the US losing educated professionals somehow will benefit le "global left"
why should a proletarian from literally any country even give a SINGLE fuck about this?

>>2600823
>Finally the educated blacks and latinos will be given attention for these 'educated' jobs.
Lol, African American and Latin communities will be continually underfunded and ignored. Short sighted oligarchs in the US see no reason to replace the brain drain happening. The US will continue limping along losing doctors, engineers and other highly educated workers until no more wealth can be extracted short term and it collapses in on itself.

>>2600823
>>2600828
<yassss support black small businesses
communism isnt about helping integrate this or that group into proper bourgeois society (and they already are, anyway)



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Enough is enough. Every 6 months or so one of these 764/nazi larper guys murders innocent people. No major news sources report on the obvious link here. They all dress the same, wear the same symbols, are equally retarded and are a threat to society. We need to prevent these guys but idk how. Does anyone know how we can get into contact with journalists or some shit to actually talk about this issue.
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>>2600185
Well it goes both ways. Think different glowie agencies try to weaponize people, and they do it because others do it to them, and the guys sub-contracted out by these governments also work different sides which causes the whole thing to get even more hopelessly confused.

One of these neo-Nazi wicca fash accelerationist groups in the U.S. was organized by an American who decamped to Russia and now has Russian citizenship. He was also a DSA member (!) at one point while at school in New Jersey. And also working as a contractor for the Virginia-based "Omega Solutions International" which billed intself as a "security consulting firm … specializing in command, control, and intelligence (C2I) for homeland security, counterterrorism, and counterinsurgency missions at every echelon" who made trips to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Strikes me as a rather mercenary type. He goes by "Aldo Condottiero" on LinkedIn btw (look up what "Condottiero" means). Like yeah it was Russia doing this but it was through this sub-contractor which is often how this kind of thing is organized.

>>2599983
he sounds like a pure internet brainrotted guy who decked himself out with references to western internet rw culture. I guess Putin's fault is that he didn't cut the internet completely

>>2600300
That's where Xi is clearly superior to Putin. The People's Great Firewall must be made even more restrictive to prevent American misanthropic degeneracy creeping in.

>>2600088
Yeah but they weren't nearly as annoying. At least the cho/lanza types somewhat make sense as sadists these dudes think they're saving western civilization and shit because some guy on discord told them that makes sense. There's a difference between organic violence and retarded kids being tricked into murdering people by nazis

>>2599983
764 and the other satanist/esotericist neo nazi LARP groups were spawned in the West and most of the attacks have happened in the West. This is probably why Russia is shilling MAX and moving to ban international/foreign social media, they're a medium in which American glow-ops like 764 often leak over to terminally online Russian teens.



 

Serbian president threatens reprisals after plans for Belgrade Trump Tower thwarted
In a rare setback for the Trump family’s global moneymaking campaign, the $500m development was abandoned after Monday’s indictment of a Serbian minister on suspicion of abusing his office to support the project. “We have lost an exceptional investment,” Aleksandar Vučić, Serbia’s embattled president, said on Tuesday. “I will personally ensure that everyone who participated in causing this damage is held accountable.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/16/eu-to-regulate-short-term-rentals-in-plan-to-tackle-affordable-homes-shortage

VW stops production at German site for first time
Though that deal ruled out compulsory redundancies, IG Metall union official Stefan Ehly told AFP that he thought Volkswagen would have major difficulties ensuring that all employees could keep working at the Dresden site. "Stopping production was agreed," he said. "But it was also agreed that there would be a plan for the site, guaranteeing employment for all who work there. And that just hasn't happened."
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20251216-vw-stops-production-at-german-site-for-first-time
https://archive.ph/UHHpg

Young people hardest hit as unemployment rises to 5.1%
The rate in the three months to October is the highest since early 2016 excluding the Covid era. Office for National Statistics (ONS) data found unemployment rose by 85,000 among 18 to 24-year-olds over the period — the biggest increase since November 2022.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/young-people-hardest-hit-unemployment-rises-51

‘No water, no life’: Iraq’s Tigris River in danger of disappearing
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TYBNA

Now caribbean Indians are cucking out.

Trump expands travel ban to Syrians, Palestinians and others
The Trump administration instituted full restrictions and entry limitations against Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, South Sudan, and Syria, as well as people with travel documents issued by the Palestinian Authority. Trump expanded restrictions from partial to full against Laos and Sierra Leone.
https://www.axios.com/2025/12/16/trump-travel-ban-expanded-december
https://archive.ph/7IMng

House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise
“I am pissed for the American people. This is absolute bulls—, and it’s absurd,” Lawler said Tuesday. “Everybody has a responsibility to serve their district, to serve their constituents. You know what’s funny? Three-quarters of people on Obamacare are in states Donald Trump won. So maybe, just maybe, everybody should look at this and say, ‘How do we actually fix the health care system?’”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-ditch-vote-obamacare-funding-premiums-rise-2026-rcna249521

US will not release full Venezuela boat strike video, Hegseth says
Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco Rubio conducted briefings on Tuesday for every member of the Senate and House of Representatives, responding to lawmakers' demands for more information about a 3-1/2-month campaign of more than 20 strikes against boats in the Caribbean and Pacific that have killed more than 80 people.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-not-planning-release-unedited-boat-strike-video-public-hegseth-says-2025-12-16/

ICE agents call for backup during Minneapolis traffic stop, bystanders hurl insults and snowballs
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Hugo Chávez and the Venezuelan Revolution
Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution was a watershed moment in the history of the class struggle. It was a ray of light in the dark years following the collapse of Stalinism. Long before the 2008 crisis, Occupy, BLM, or the rise of Sanders or Mamdani, it gave credibility to anti-capitalism, anti-imperialism, and socialism. Hugo Chávez embodied the revolution and expressed the aspirations of the poor masses worldwide. The potential for a regional socialist revolution was evident. Had it succeeded, the planet would be a very different place. Instead of hundreds of thousands of desperate Venezuelan refugees fleeing into the US, the socialist revolution would have spread like wildfire across the border. The terrible conditions and heightened imperialist bullying that Venezuelans suffer today are a direct consequence of the revolution’s failure. It is a law of history: the price for not taking the socialist revolution to its conclusion is reaction and counterrevolution. Incredibly, many so-called Marxists claim it was never a revolution in the first place. But anyone who has watched The Revolution Will Not Be Televised will have seen the will to sacrifice and spiritual uplift expressed by the humblest layers of Venezuelan society. This is precisely what it looks like when the masses enter the stage of history, seize their destinies in their hands, and storm heaven.
https://marxist.com/hugo-chavez-and-the-venezuelan-revolution.htm

When the Left manages capitalism, the far right takes power: Lessons from Latin America
Boric’s presidency was born out of the massive social uprising of 2019 and the widespread demand for dignity, social rights, and an end to the Pinochet-era economic model. Yet, despite the radical language and the participation of the Communist Party of Chile in government, the core structures of Chilean capitalism remained untouched. Privatised public services, job insecurity, high living costs, and social inequality continued to shape everyday life for millions. Over time, the gap between expectations and reality became impossible to ignore. Kast capitalised on this frustration. His campaign centred on “law and order,” fear of crime, and hostility toward migrants — classic themes of the contemporary far right. At the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



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What is adventurism and what isn't?

I feel like MLs like throwing this word around a lot but never give clear defintions.
Why do statists think it's okay for the state to commit mass violence daily, but when a indiviual commits violence against that apparatus somehow they are "adventurist" or in the wrong, like do you seriously expect the ruling class to just give up?

Even if the attacks further oppresion temporarily wouldn't that still make the social conditions for revolutions to increase? Even if it takes decades as it did in Russia.
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>>2599516
Yeah, there were letters from AQ leadership that showed that they were genuinely caught with their pants down when Amerikkka invaded Afghanistan. AQ genuinely believed that cuz American society is so decadent they'd just keel over and die.

It's kinda ironic for Bin Laden to believe this tbh. Because the Arab Caliphates at least in the latter stages was precisely like America today, where there were decadent higher class and a largely demoralized underclass, but the Abbasid was able to crush everyone left and right because they relied on a professional military class separate from the civilians much like the US today

>>2599205
We need to understand that before Oct 7 happened Israel was on the verge of normalization of Saudi Arabia who planned to make a trade route with Israel and circumventing Gaza. This is why they were constantly making noises even before Oct 7, to draw attention back and get Hamas a seat in the table of the regional power dealing.
And you know what, they won this shit. Palestine is now an inseparable fact from Middle Eastern geopolitical reality. And even if Iran and Hezbollah collapses tomorrow Hamas can now just ask for patronage from Turkey because now every Muslim president can get immense prestige and piety points just from donating to Hamas. While conversely Israeli donors now cant afford to donate to the Zionists without getting shame in their face. This is a complete strategic win for Hamas

Was january 6th adventurist

>>2599004
No. That was an attack on another state by a nationalist militia. Even if you think strategically it was a blunder it did actually change the military and political status quo in the region.

Adventurism would be that guy who shot the Zionist diplos. They were replaced before even their funeral. There was no impact on the Zionist operation, and someone who could have been useful cadre will spend their life in prison.

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>rogue individual activism OR "adventurism" doesn't lead to anyth–



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