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Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
I know theres like one group trying but its really just a gang and isnt actually communist
The entire bourgesise goverment has collapsed, theres already a communist party, and even americans are trying to establish colonies in it to rape people, like seriously are you just gonna let a bunch of crackers take over again?

Come on, do something already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haitian_Communist_Party_(Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/21/texas-haiti-rape-indictment?

https://www.blackagendareport.com/challenging-imperialism-communist-party-kenya-stands-solidarity-justice-and-equality-haitian-people
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>>2877812
The reason why emancipation happened in Jamaica etc is partially becase of the Haitian revolution, the most radical elements trickle down and force change

You never let a good crisis go to waste. If you are a leftst in Haiti you should be jumping at the opportunity to do something.

>>2877812
Yes? The Haitian colony was basically everything bad about post-revolution Haiti but with slavery stacked on top, so there wasn't really any loss in freeing themselves anyways.

>>2819423
As for why Haiti never had a proletarian revolution, the answer is that they were never really in a good position too. Haiti throughout most of it's history has mostly been an agrarian nation with little industrialization developing throughout it's lifespan, and industrialization makes workers a lot more class aware because of the relation to their labor and it's exploitation. The Haitian revolution being a bourgeois revolution alongside being a slave revolt probably didn't help either. Combine this with a ruling class who has basically been under the thumb of the US and who were actively stamping down on any serious communist movement in their country and you get a nation where most of the proletariat have very little class consciousness to speak of.

>>2822437
no dumbass

>>2819437
correct answer. thread should have ended here but leftypol has to weigh in with their racist trolling



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Why is nationalism such a powerful force?
Nearly all communists buy into it in some form.
Seems like we cant seem to get rid of no matter what. Why? Whats so special about it?
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>>2888224
>Kant also rationalised war as a progressive force of "perpetual peace", where disputes are resolved by the forced result of a concession.

that's a load of crap. during kant's lifetime europe was in a state of perpetual war and he was insulated from all of it because he was a privileged intellectual, a gentleman scholar. his closest exposure to war was during the seven years war, when his homeland the prussian empire teamed up with the british empire and went to war with the rest of europe, killing about 10% of the entire european peasant population at the time. for a few years the russian army had occupied kant's home city and he and his fellow prestigious academics all immediately betrayed their country and swore allegiance to the russian empress in exchange for being allowed to keep their wealth and their positions. just for comparison, if a peasant soldier in the prussian army even tried to desert he would be forced to slowly walk a gauntlet back and forth between two rows of soldiers caning him on his bare back until he died, but a privileged prussian scholar like kant could publicly swear allegiance to a foreign enemy and it wasn't considered a crime at all, it was just business. this is the kind of person whom we are supposed to revere as one of the brilliant philosophers of our great western culture, this craven powdered-wig fop who lived inside of a plastic bubble totally removed from reality, sitting on ornate furniture writing about war and morality while getting drunk on expensive wine imported from an enemy country. a so-called "world citizen", like these modern-day silicon valley techbros who think that they are outside of everything and have this higher understanding of it all and are totally oblivious of their own tremendous privilege. western people who call themselves leftists really need to do something about their preprogrammed eurocentrism and deification of the historical european intellectual elite, which includes marx and engels. they need to stop internalizing the idea that all of the knowledge of the world comes from the minds of a few great men in europe and a few highly-publicized books, start becoming more mindful of the extreme historical biases in play and the fact that there is a whole other vast universe of knowledge beyond what we are taught in our schools that has always bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2888251
If your family is from genoa it’s easier to bring a girl from Mali to them than a girl from Venice

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>>2888496
Hegel also welcomed the conquest of Prussia by Napoleon because of the illusions of progress. If Hegel's life was immediately threatened, I doubt he would be so enthusiastic. As for Kant himself, he only published his Critique of Pure Reason when he was 57, and so lived a life of leisurely contemplation before then. His ultimate aims for the project of Perpetual Peace was the creation of a global government, such as the United Nations. Liberals in this time also concieved of free trade as a means of ensuring mutual interests, but free trade itself is mostly an imperial interest, so we return to hegemony.

On Kant's politics, I have discovered inconsistencies, where in "Groundwork for the Metaphysic of Morals" (1785) he sees the "moral law" as categorical imperative by practical reason, and so we are made free by the legislative act, presuming the legislative body above the executive branch (e.g. parliament above president). This has continuity in "Perpetual Peace" (1795) where a code of international law is suggested (which before this time there was only the "law of the seas" of Grotius, 1609). This really has precedence in Rousseau, such as in his "Discourse on Political Economy" (1755), where he says that the limit of positive law grants freedom henceforth, similar to Thomas Paine in "Common Sense" (1776), where he defines government as a "necessary evil", and thus a ground for freedom by its constitutive limit. We see in Coke's "Petition of Right" (1628) a cause for the "rule of law"; a sentiment carried on into Enlightenment. Yet, in Kant's other work "Principles of Political Right" (1791) we see that Kant views Sovereignty as the right of executiveship, reversing his apparent Republicanism by favour of monarchy over democracy. Kant's attitude to royalty was always inconsistent, offering praises to the Prince in his first edition of Critique of Pure Reason. He was an opportunist, as you imply. On Kant's class interests, we also see him philosophically justify an idea of intellectual property in his text "Of the Injustice of Counterfeiting Books" (1785). Copyright Law itself was an 18th century invention, with precedence of publishing rights limited in the case of the KJV Bible (1611), which is still in effect today. Kant makes note of the "profit" of unauthorised publishers being owed to authors, and so intertwines morality and monPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2888831
nobody cares larping faggot, now fuck off this board

>>2888840

orrrr?????? nothing you are a fat jewish man with a bald head



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I think America deserves some credit for the minute good it’s done on the world stage, but can any political unit ever even come close to a comparative amount of suffering and death caused? I feel like I don’t even need to go through the atrocities but I mean the USA has directly caused genocides on more continents than they have not… Has any tribe, nation, kingdom, soviet, whatever the fuck term you want to use EVER caused as much real physical harm as the great Satan, America?
Britain? Portugal? Rome? The Khanate? I don’t know if any of them match the amount of real distress and suffering caused, in a utilitarian sense, as the United States has.

No this post has nothing to do with the fact it’s the Fourth of July.
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>>2887759
dare to use the brain now and then

>>2887707
>Stalin, along with Khruschev and Zhukov, made the same statements in private
<Khrushchev attempting to make detente and Stalin trying to squeeze everything out of the western powers.
Lend Lease didn't make the difference between winning the war, it made the difference with how many loses

>>2888238
Do you know what the word "private" means?
They PRIVATELY admitted to their OWN PARTY COMRADES they would’ve lost. Why do you keep inserting appeasing the Allies into this scenario? Are you stupid?
>Khrushchev attempting to make detente
No, dumbass, Khrushchev authored his memoirs in secret after he was overthrown, and he wrote it before detente became official Soviet policy. The only reason we know the memoirs exist is because his son smuggled copies to the US and Western Europe in the 1970s; it was a major political embarrassment for the Soviets at the time.

>>2858900
>I think America deserves some credit for the minute good it’s done on the world stage
like…. what?

>>2888618
defeating imperial japan? Defeating fascist italy? Helping defeat fascist germany?



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revolution in the imperial core is unlikely but highly necessary because there is no stronger imperialist force that can come in from the outside and ruin the revolution. the third world is more immiserated and has had mores successful revolutions, but those revolutions get rolled back by CIA coups, sanctions, bombs, opportunism, revisionism, etc. the opportunism and revisionism is usually a side effect of trying to protect the gains of the revolution from a stronger outside force without being suicidal. the core would not have to do this. they are the strongest force. who's gonna bomb and sanction america if it has a revolution? china? iran? russia? DPRK? Give me a break.
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>>2876565
>so the revolution will only come when TWD happens
this has to be some far right accelerationist trolling leftists trying to get them more racial and hateful lmao

>>2887920
>If you do not destroy the unproductive right-wing parasites you will not develop the productive forces
Revisionist
>If you do not develop the productive forces, you will not have communism
We know, we’re still not doing Dengism
>You want a crisis induced by falling rates of profit but you reject the notion of reducing the profits extracted by rent seekers by subjecting them to competition.
No
>Tell me, anon, why do you love American car dealers so much?
We really don’t

>>2876600
>a homeless in the we$$t kkkan eat heckkkin mcdonald$$!!
Thirdie-neoliberal synthesis

>>2876646
ok this just brings us full circle back to OP which argues that revolution in the imperial core is necessary even though it hasn't happenedy et

>>2876653
That's actually pretty despicable behavior and how you see substance users really tells me a lot about you.



 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clyey5glv4ko
Increased security for England and Argentina tie

<Authorities say there will be increased security measures in place for Wednesday's World Cup semi-final between England and Argentina.


>The pair will resume one of international football's most storied rivalries at the Atlanta Stadium, as England bid to defeat the defending champions and reach their first World Cup final since 1966.


>Atlanta police are aware of historical tensions between the two countries.
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https://kaygreen.blog/2026/08/09/the-alarming-tale-of-the-far-right-bookshop-in-rural-suffolk/
>TERF who edited Glinner's memoir is shocked to find that all their TERF pals support a far-right bookshop
<For many prominent GCs who genuinely started out on the left, it’s clear that hanging out on the right, taking pay cheques from UnHerd, The Critic, Spiked and The Spectator, and knowing they’ll get a sympathetic ear from Julia Hartley-Brewer of Talk TV or Josh Howie of GB News, has meant they end up sounding very like their new right-wing friends. Cheering for Israel and abusing anyone who opposes the genocide of Palestinians has become de rigueur for many vocal GCs.
<When some of them embrace obsessive anti-Muslim racists who happen to be GC, it feels like they’re not doing it despite the Islamophobia, but because of it. This distortion of values doesn’t escape trans rights activists. As one mocked the other day: ‘You could not write a better punchline to the “protect women and girls” TERF academics joke, than them all coming out to eulogise the wife-beating paedophile Rod Liddle.’
<Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology. This is a familiar position, but I would suggest it’s not actually true. Yes, they’ll work with anyone on the right. But if you’re the kind of deranged ‘tankie’ and ‘Hamas apologist’ who thinks it’s bad to shoot Gazan kids in the head for target practice, they don’t want to know you.
they're so close to getting it. (but then go down the blind alley of wanting a new TERF left grouping instead, which will always in the end lead to you the grotesque spectacle of the CPB praising the Supreme Court and British Government.)

>>2890153
>Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology

Every single time lmao, it's like being anti-trans is a brain worm that overrides everything else they supposedly believe in, also why I cringe at "anti-idpol" types

You just know those types of "people" would be bitching about the DDR, not because of anything related to revisionism or anything along those lines but because of their position on trans people

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5th heatwave of the year, 35c summers in the north of England, everything is dead, dry, the lakes are mostly shrivelled up and GONE…
Yes still 2 of the 3 largest political parties straight up deny climate change, and all 3 of them want to open more oil drilling sites.

If anything as it gets hotter, the rate of denial increases.
The Tories of 10 to 20 years ago - despite how abhorrently vile and evil they were in all conceivable ways - at the least acknowledged climate change is real. Can't say that about them under Kemi…




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No bait no rageful discussion just honest question, Why was he so hated?

It seems to me that By all means he is an orthodox marxist and his writings perfectly fine. And his criticisms of the USSR seem non-objectionable to most people (Totalitarianism is bad, More party discourse needed, More worker democracy, etc.)

Why is he so hated among many marxist circles? Hate doesn't describe it, He is thoroughly despised.
I'm all ears. and will respond if I have time.
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As general of the red army he massively failed the iberation of Europe by attacking Poland while the USSR was still weak and fighting Romanov loyalists, as a result of which future leaders had to pull shit out of Siberia's ass to fund African rebels instead of using pre-established French factories

He replaced marxism with social degeneration theory and class with "bureaucratic stratum", making him the arch revisionist

Is combined and uneven development theory any good? Is it useful?

>>2888198
Poland was lost because of Stalins fault. He delayed the attack.

>>2856178
He just had a really, really annoying personality. Other than that he was fine.



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Following Putin's advice, China is very closely. Interesting to see them planning a war like Putin even with Putin's advice.

Economy option? No.
Follow trade rules? No.

>>2888747
Might as well drop some open intel about illegally developed devices and illegally imported devices by China through the ports.

Huawei is importing electromagnetic components without markings.

There is multiple Chinese money printed funded housing deals which occurred for land acquisition for spy purposes.

There is multiple police stations which were operating for the Chinese communist party illegally persecuting individuals illegally.

There is multiple ill-obtained ports.

There is an undermining Chinese force within universities which are mainly operating for militaristic purposes which include generating underwater military technology, civilian surveillance, labor party infiltration assets, illegal identities are used from multiple Chinese satellite neighboring countries.

Biolabs have operated illegally and are suspected to have targeted the population.

why would Chyna invade Cuck Island when they can just wait for the US to collapse?



 

Has any capitalist state fell back to feudalism? Reading Marx I get the sense that once a change in the mode of production happens it does not reverse and this is what we see from the most developed areas entering capitalism. If this is the case then failed AES states didn't actually change their mode of production and the possibility that socialism just as every other change in the MoP can still only come from the most advanced areas of society.
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capitalism is the highest stage of feudalism

>>2886524
Those Italian city-states did not have a Capitalist Mode of Production, which starts with a restructuring of agricultural lands. They were only proto-capitalist in the sense of being dominated by merchant capital. But merchant capital has existed and has played major roles in society since the earliest societies recorded in history.

one could argue that we are in a state of feudalism right now. everything is owned by a few huge corporations that don't really have any competition, consumer agency is pretty much non-existent, we don't really buy goods or services anymore we just pay rent for access to them and the rent is constantly going up and we have nowhere else to go to find a better deal, and the same goes for our jobs that we rely on for everything, our employers dole out the minimum amount of money they can get away with paying us for our work and we cannot form unions or have any kind of leverage because our employers are hyperwealthy multinationals who can hire scabs from anywhere in the world to replace us, and now even conjure up non-human scabs to replace us spun up by some even bigger and more evil tech corporation.

>>2885942

I think with that level centralization and state direction of economy its closer to an Asiatic mode of production than feudalism. Think the Qin dynasty.

Afghanistan



 

>Never become the leader of any socialist country

>Fucking die


>Commies keep denying your word for decades


>A century later your writings becomes fundamental in modern Marxist thought


Ts is where China got their "do nothing, win" strategy from
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why stalin kill bukharin

>>2880994
>the mass slaughter of Ukrainians and Balts
Nevee happened

>>2880859

Actually the Soviet leadership did begin mobilizing & moving more troops to the border in anticipation of an impending Naxi attack, its just that it was not fully completed with the troops properly dug in.

>>2881068
>stalin
>destroy zionism

Which of his works are worth reading?



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how can low birthrates and immigration both be a problem? it would seem to me that one ought to compensate for the other. if you're worried about the population of your country decreasing then you should be happy that new people are coming in to bolster your numbers. if you are worried about the population being too high, then you should be happy that people aren't having as many babies.

and let's face it, neither of these things are issues that anyone can really do anything about. you can't make millions of people have sex and produce babies more often and you can't stop millions of people from entering a country. human behavior at this scale is basically like the weather, you can't control it or do anything about it and there's no sense in whining about it, all you can really do is just accept it and adapt to it.
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Low birthrates are fine because we're 8billion on this planet

Immigration is fine because I'm not a racist.

Who cares about "economies"


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>>2864254
>You are comparing apples to oranges here. The law distinguishes between the possession of CSAM and the possession of images depicting torture.

Yes, because of double standards. What’s new under the sun?

>The harm identified by psychologists is not just the act of taking the photo but the inability of the victim to ever fully move past the event because the evidence of their exploitation is always accessible to strangers.


Again, more metaphysical bullshit that can equally apply to the pictures of Abu Ghraib tortured detainees and Phan Thi Kim Phuc as a girl (a.k.a., Napalm girl). Again, it’s just a bullshit excuse made up by the pigs to justify state repression. Why do you support the pigs on this endeavour?

I also can’t help but notice that you’re relying on muh feelz to justify state censorship like KOSA. I got an embarrassing video of myself posted on FB. Should the law now be changed so that everyone in possession of said video should be arrested so that I can move on from the exploitation?

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>>2883449
>People aren't interchangeable, there's a reason why national characteristics exist.

yeah that's why racists throw screeching fits about immigration and decreasing white birthrates and the normalization of interracial couples producing brown children, because they are so confident in their theories of biological incompatibility between human beings who don't look exactly alike. that's why horny drunk white soldiers have raped native women and left behind whole generations of halfbreed bastards in every country they have ever invaded, because geographically-distant humans are like cats and dogs and there's just no possible connection between them. it's just a weird coincidence that american indians have slanty eyes and straight black hair like east asians do and that north america and east asia happened to be connected by a land bridge 15,000 years ago, these are clearly two completely separate sets of "national characteristics" that have nothing in common. or if they do, then they still have nothing in common with white people, because white people are pure and have no connection to the various subhuman races, white people came from atlantis and were descended from the ancient high elves of the hyperborea.

>>2887800
They're already offshored everything but okay

  1. Birth rates are decreasing everywhere.

  2. Uncontrolled migration, especially of a mass kind, can create tensions, divisions, and even violence amongst the working class.


What capitalist countries tend to do is mass important foreign labourers within short time frames. Then tensions rise for both cultural & economic reasons, with wage compression, working conditions deteriorating or unemployment rising amongst low skilled workers (in the case of a lot of illegal or grey market migration)

Especially in the aftermath of recessions, sections of the bourgeois media apparatus direct the target of peoples anger towards migrants, which protects the bourgeois and the capitalism system (albeit imperfectly)



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