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the cuban flotilla is being run by the PSL but they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre across multiple branches, so they are using other orgs they run like code pink to do the promotion and optics of the flotilla

the flotilla, much like the PSL and the rest of these astroturfing organizations like Veterans for Peace or Code Pink are funded primarily by this billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham

I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla. The PSL is one of the biggest obstacles for a revolutionary American left to overcome.
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>>2754758
I've thought the Singham story is the biggest nothingburger. Like there's some rich guy giving you money? My attitude is like meh take the money, what criticism can you make of that which isn't moralistic. What makes me feel more pessimistic, however, is seeing someone like Chris Smalls (in your example) go from being this popular union organizer who came out of nowhere and seemed different and new to becoming another "media leftist" quasi-celebrity. Like there's no workers' political organization as much as a media presence substituting for one and the activism which builds around that skews towards the symbolic and performative side because that's good for media, and maybe that is related to the money going into the media side of things.

Whta even happened with this

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>>2748781
Cuba is an irrelevant island. America is the global superpower. It would be us developing cures for the world's diseases. Cuba isn't special. It's America's turn to kick out our occupiers and part of that is realizing what's good for Americans like having cool medicine and why we don't have it.

>>2748081
>with no ties to the american working class
The American working class is basically nonexistent, so it tracks.

>>2748500
Trotskyism is just Marxism Leninism for hipsters. Any problems you have with one likely apply to the other, especially nowadays.



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>>2805377
just after ted turner dies, fucked up

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Why did the redistricting bullshit have to come in an election year. Now the vooters will be extra insufferable and nothing still won't happen

Because the only way to fight fascist vooter disenfranchisement is with more vooting

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>>2805568
Porky of Capital

>>2805377
Read Butcher's Crossing for a fun time



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So China's real state market just crashed, and houses will be cheaper. How is this a bad thing exactly? I don't understand much about economics. But why is everyone saying this is a bad thing?
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>>2795730
But gorbachev and western marxists were 100% in agreement.
In fact, that was the problem, gorbachev listened to the western leftists and eurocommunists who said the USSR was too totalitarian and needed to liberalize

>>2795436
>just crashed
old fucking news, all the westoid "muh ccp collapse!" did their thing already, more than a year ago, and then had to admit it didnt propagate and was a good calculated move from the government stepping in to curb speculation on home construction sector and make sure the sector is there to give people places to live and not rake in money
socialism with chinese characteristics win again

>>2795495
Who are you quoting?

>>2795628
>>2795654
>>2795699
>>2795700
>>2795730
"Let's see you do better" is probably the most retarded argument a Marxist could probably make. Not only does it not address the argument made, it also completely ignores historical materialism. Revolutions happen because the material conditions of the day make them possible, not because the people involved wanted it hard enough.

>>2805138
Marx supported the American north when they abolished slavery, you'd be fucking retarded to think he wouldnt support Xi's China.

>>2805145
I never said he wouldn't.

I actually like China, by the way, probably even more than most people ITT. They are far and away the most successful socialist experiment thus far, and ought to serve as the model for any future socialist states. They're also a much better influence on global politics than the US. That doesn't mean that they're above criticism tho.



 

What do communist parties and anarchist groups actually do in the west? I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees. When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
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enjoy your dues lol.

>>2804643
>What do communist parties
Protests as rituals and book clubs.
>and anarchist groups actually do in the west?
Drugs

>>2804643
> I joined my union but nothing happened,
You are supposed to do even less than now when there is a strike.

The goal of a union is to grow in size until strikes combined with demands yield results.

The goal of a socialist party is to maintain internal discipline and avoid useless adventures that cause legal risk without material reward.

Realistically, America might be the last country to end up socialist.

Put in plane language, don’t start useless aggressive talk that just results in everyone labeled under NSPM-7 for death.

>>2804643
> communist parties
They read and complain about the anarchists and the other communists
>anarchist groups
They read and have sex with each other while also shit-talking the communists and other anarchsist.
>I joined my union but nothing happened, I just pay membership fees.
Ok? thatd be your own fault then.
>When do I get to crack fascist skulls open and strike?
you are the kind of person people would specifically not bring to that kind of thing. Too eager, too stupid, talks on social media.



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I live in the Global South in a region being absolutely hammered by rising heat waves, the worst kind. People are dying, people are suffering, daily life is becoming unbearable. I’ve watched the heat get worse in real time and seen the misery it brings.
And unlike the retarded neocons these activists do understand the consequences of climate change, but then what? They offer nothing remotely proportional to the crisis. “Plant more trees,” “switch to solar” that’s it. I’ve had to explain over and over that our governments are too corrupt and dysfunctional to pull that off. They barely function as it is. There’s no institutional capacity and Individual actions don’t mean much in a system like this.
We had chances. When Al Gore lost and oil billionaire won, that was a turning point and a disastrous one. I genuinely mourn what could have been different. We could have built global institutions capable of dealing with climate change before it spiraled into this nightmare. But that’s not the world we got.
This is the reality now and If we want to prevent total collapse, geoengineering is the only option left on the table. I know it’s dangerous and I know it doesn’t fix the root cause. I’m not blind to that. But at this point it’s not about perfect solutions, it’s about any solution that might actually keep people alive and not in pain.
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>>2804071
Pakistan

There's been an answer for years that requires zero change in consumption but we are simply fettered by Epsteinite occupiers.

>>2803811
>What industries
NTA, auto.

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>Hey guys and bros! Today I have a really retarded question that I'm going to ask here without doing even the most surface level of research on the topic! Next I'm going to act like you are the stupid one! It's going to be greaaaat!!

"Western activists" weird framing since it comes almost entirely from western billionaires.



 

I live in South Carolina. Joshua Sutter and his wife, Jillian Hoy operated Martinet Press and lived in and were based in South Carolina. There they formed the Tempel ov Blood/Libre 333/Iron Gates together for a theistic satanist order.
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>>2775404
>>2775415
yes, christian identity has several churches all of which are whites-only
there's also a fringe sub-sector ,Dual Seedline
william finck is the worst

>>2775399

i thought it meant confidential informant

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>>2773122
>What hate groups originate in your state (Amerimutts only)?
Most of them

The JDF are very active in a college town in my state. They know that they can get away with it too. I wonder why.

The ACP led by the perfidous Haz Al-Deen



 

Anyone read the book Meditations on the Tarot? Got interested it because of the Jungian archetypes.

posting this mainly to get vetted on the matrix since the mods are serious there and serious here since I got banned on one wifi for accidentally messing up the arithmetic problem

Oh great another annoying namefag

The best part of Jung was his materialist work on unconscious responses to stimuli measured with electronic devices, but all these retards want to talk about is magic beetles and archtypes or somesuch nonsense. There is an actual process for helping people with trauma and complexes that involves materialism you know that thing we are trying to defend. That bring said I like Passio's scholarship. Do not namefag.

Just go to the source and read jung



 

Liberal "mutual aid" is simply charity draped in the rhetoric of radical anti‑charity, a food drive, a medicine or clean‑needle table, a hot meal dispensed downward. Such interventions may be momentarily useful, but they are not mutual aid in the materialist sense. They reproduce the giver‑receiver relation, the commodity form of assistance, and the reification of the helper as petite‑bourgeois dispenser / volunteer. The recipient remains an object of pity; the circuit of capital is interrupted only at the point of transfer, not at the point of social reproduction. The empirical reality contradicts the self‑congratulatory narrative of radical cliques, there is more genuine mutual aid, more autonomous social reproduction, more daily cooperation outside the wage occurring in the poorest, most abandoned neighborhoods than in the entire apparatus of the NGO left and its salon revolutionaries. The most effective organizers, those who actually emerge from the material conditions of the working poor and the lumpenproletariat, struggle daily against the immiseration capitalism has imposed upon them yet they are systematically ignored by white‑collar, Ivy League students who inhabit comfortable, cushioned lives, who speak the language of Marxism while practicing hyper‑individualism, who mistake performative radicalism for class struggle, and who treat the poor as abstract signifiers rather than as comrades with whom one eats, sleeps, and fights with. This is not a failure of theory; it is a failure of class position entirely. The petite‑bourgeoisie has colonized the left, and until it is expelled, or until it learns to shut the fuck up and take orders from those who actually live the struggle, the light of truth will remain hidden behind a cloud of grant proposals and endless virtue signaling.

Real mutual aid is not an event. It is a mode of living, the daily, tedious, yet joyful labor of reproducing the material conditions of collective survival outside the wage, outside the bourgeois state, outside the NGO, and, ideally, outside every other institution that mediates and limits working‑class power. This process ideally must begin with the capture of space and the utilization of the commons. Territory is not merely a backdrop to existence; it is the material precondition for autonomous social reproduction.

I do not agree with all of Kropotkin's theoretical works, but his Mutual Aid, A Factor of Evolution remains a solid analysis oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I am telling IFA that glowie uyghurs (probably the liberal glowie CIA uyghurs at black rose FED) are using sudanese uyghurs to fund juche methheads

>>2804530
I don't have a problem with meth, lsd, drugs, I have a problem with the uyghurs lying about sudanese uyghurs needing help and then doing this shit, death to the war on drugs and the juche retards too

>>2804540
>anarcho-Juche
No such thing, just a grifter, anarchism is incompatible with juche.

>>2804555
Liberals, 99,9% of them are liberals who use the name for the military chic, punk retards

New kind of schizo just dropped



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Recently came across these tweets. Often I've seen folk argue that the nuclear family structure is inherently abusive and tied to capital, while others, including these tweets, argue that biological parents are the least likely to sexually abuse, unlike that of extended families/communal rearing. Are these stats any accurate at all? Discuss.
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>>2803712
Bro wtf are you talking about? At pretty much any leftist organizing space I go to locally there's been a conversation about child care and someone's set up a playpen with coloring books n shit for the little ones.

>>2803712
Me when I'm just lying

>>2788698
If pedophiles are what's needed to raise children communally then a Hero of Socialist Construction award is in order for Charles Dodgson.

>>2803719
Because they're pedophiles and want control of the children of the idiots in the org.

>>2774116
Stats here are a trvke.
t. Divorced Parents and was raped as a child

>>2774122
Reading comprehension. The chart addresses single parents.



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Today is Karl Marx's birthday and I wanna make a statement about his theory of society and capitalism.

Marx's theory on history and the development of capitalism is based on these three core ideas:

  1. historical and dialectical materialism
  2. class struggle under capitalism is inevitable
  3. labour theory of value and surplus value theory

a. Historical materialism is a good theory but reductionist.
The mode of production and class struggle is not the main driving factor of history.

b. capitalism adapts itself better than Marx's predicted

c. labour is important in defining the value of a product but it is also not the main defining factor of its price

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please actually read marx and never listen to online marxists, none of them have read marx

KARL MARX WAS A russian saboteur

>>2802576
As if race, gender and other identities exist on an island, each one of these variables are contingent and access to material and specific mode of production determined their identity

suppose africa developed the steam engine before england, they would have colonized a vast amount of land, despite whatever thirdworldists say.

>>2803524
>hmm, I used to think like
And I used to think like you, so I guess we yin-yanged, as people often do
>>2803525
>you should pay attention
I certainly try!
>good night
good morning!

>>2803709
Mods permaban this man for idpol



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