/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2820594
>Lenin died admitting the failure of the NEP and the bourgeoisie directing production in the USSR
sauce?

>>2820956
Israel is so neoliberal they've even started privatizing their weapons manufacturers. As always the ultra relies on people being completely ignorant of what is actually happening in the real world.

>>2819106
I knew China was Proudhonist, I didn't know they were Trotskist too!

Bump

=based= there was a time when you could get from one side of the country to the other on trams which went town-to-town. The reason why roads were paved in the US was because bicyclist unions demanded it from the government.

Essential theory consulted

Because turns out 18th century theory isn't working well in the 21st century

>>2819554
who cares what that grifter glowie is doing.

>>2819423
Does gangs taking over the country count as communist revolutionary action?

>Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
The west has already been perpetually punishing Haiti for having a successful slave rebellion for over 200 years at this point, if they ever had any socialist movement at all then America would kill every Haitian person.

>>2820730
>Turkey also disputes Greece’s right to extend its territorial waters from six to 12 nautical miles under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), warning that such a move could constitute a casus belli. Greece is a signatory to UNCLOS, while Turkey is not.

So Iran shits up UNCLOS, and Turkey isn't far behind? That didn't take long at all.

Email them to cut it out.

Shit vs piss

>>2822341
Team sports faggot.

>>2820843
Incorrect. Bulgaria belongs to Serbian.

>>2800529
Collectivism and individualism are spooks.

>>2800005
Selection effects: open minded progressive types move to the city, leaving behind only the sort of person so small minded that they can't imagine leaving.

This is also why Britain is a shithole and why for all its flaws America is an innovative (if crazy) country: it is positively selected for those who'd gamble on a better life.

>>2800574
Why are you blaming the action of jew in Israel on white people in rural America? Hillbillies don't run AIPAC, they didn't run the Epstein black mail ring, and their votes don't matter. The Palestinian genocide is being done by jews in Israel, and enabled by jewish supremacist lobbies in America, why are you angry at white people in West Virginia or Ohio? Their role in all of this being lied to about immigration.

>>2822066
That post was sarcastic hence the "Good one."

>>2800653
If you want to study animals in captivity and improve their conditions, you have to study the natural state, yes. Otherwise they fail to flourish and do weird things like pace out of boredom, pluck out their feathers and hair, fail to reproduce, etc.

Lefty music nerds like Fantano are retarded. Drake is openly WOKE, hates Trump and support Palestine. He's made too many pop bangers to count. Kendrick is some goofy "conscious" vagueposting black isrealite lyricist that hasnt made a good album for a decade and think way too much of himself. His drake diss also sucked he was calling him a pedo for no reason as if he never fucked barely legal girls himself that hypocrite.
Most of his haters are clearly acting out of ressentiment because Drake is too normie and prosocial both in his music and as a person.

how easily morons fall for this celeb worship shit as long as they think theyre doing it for moral reasons, like kendrick hates drake but has no issue hanging out with other pedos or sexual abusers lol

>>2822037
All the songs Kendrick made with SZA wipe the floor of any Drake project past If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late

>>2822040
Yeah having Kodak Black as a feature of Mr Morale and dropping multiple verses on the last Playboi Carti kind of defeats the whole rap feminist Christian angle he goes for

>>2819535
This post belongs in the Smithsonian.

>>2820196
Yet no one seems to have written a real history of the book's distribution without lunatic "Fed" narratives attached.
As one of the worst examples of 'book worship' in the bourgeois left it is key to understand why this "grotesque mediocrity" of a book in particular is held up to be important above other more accurately communist treatments of the same problem.

>>2820202
It's very useful for black ethno-nationalist (a tragedy but those are in fact, on the "left" simply because it's the only side willing to entertain their delusions) to justify doing nothing, which are a very vocal minority.

>>2820232

As far as an authentically Marxist critique of the material this group distributed would go: focusing on the material's treatment of the ethno-nationalism within one particular group is a mistake.
Particularly because no one involved in it was a "black ethno-nationalist" and the authors tellingly have a very infantalizing (perhaps typically racist, for wealthy and anarchist asian-american students) view of black americans at a level of political and economy agency. Reading MIM and Sakai gives an impression that they think black people are dolls or dummies animated only by identity, fear and violence. Whereas they treat asians as inherently freer and wiser. This is explicit in Park's later writing where his explicitly incel screeds are targeted at 'strong asian males' being cucked by the 'amerikkkan' feminists.
Instead of being lost in the internet reception of Settlers it is it better to look at how it uses the vocabulary of its time to make it seem like Maoist "national struggle" rhetoric means something that it never meant until after Mao's death and its aestheticization into campus politics and games for intellectuals. I agree with you broadly but the problem is the "nationalism" not "ethno" since the "ethno-nationalism" encouraged by the that part of the New Communist Movement was a kind of revisionism that wanted to make other forms of Marxism seem revisionism by playing word games with the idea of a "national" struggle so that it applied all kinds of spurious things. It is no surprise to me at all that at least one of the authors of Settlers is a sincere admirer of both Mein Kampf and the John Birch Society.
All this goes to show why you cannot understand Settlers unless you know the works that it was rewritten from. Because only then can you see how the authors were being highly selective around the issues of colonialism and imperialism as stages of historical development.
Settlers is not one book and never really was. Isolating it as a single scholarly text is part of a hoodwink - rendering it ahistorical and anachronistic. Instead understand that the "labor aristocracy" writing that it was edited from was one continuous stream. And if you understand that by actually tracing the books origins and the origins of its claims you will see exactly how radically the MIM and Sakai version of 'Labor Aristocracy' departed Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

As someone from the third world, I’ve always been fascinated by American Boomer/Gen-X ‘COMMIE’ hysteria. I get that it’s the product of 50+ years of Cold War propaganda, but it’s still hilarious watching people treat milquetoast demsocs like Zohran or Bernie as if they’re hardened Eastern Bloc revolutionaries. At this point even the half illiterate Islamist in my country probably has a more coherent understanding of Communism than large parts of either the Western right or left

>>2821444
To the vast majority of Americans - including those label themselves as "communists" - communism is a cultural issue about individuality.

Protectonism is not a reactionary position. Protectonism historically has developed nations. Even modern china uses protectonism
Engles and marx were wrong about this

>>2820920
Yes the Party switch happened, I don’t like the Democratic Party but it did change from Conservatism to Social-Democracy then to Centrism. Thats why the Republicans use the Color red and Democrats Blue

>>2821119
>it did change from Conservatism to Social-Democracy then to Centrism
When was the Democratic party ever to the Left of where it is now? Face it: It's always sucked.
>Thats why the Republicans use the Color red and Democrats Blue
I'm sorry, but this is false. This color scheme only became an entrenched concept in like, 2000.
>>2821114
Marx acknowledged that protectionism developed nations at the expense of the outside world, he just didn't care.

>>2821151
>When was the Democratic party ever to the Left of where it is now? Face it: It's always sucked.
the 60s to mid 80s but beyond that not really
>>2821114
protectionism is reactionary only if the economy is already developed so it halts the spread of capital
>>2821029
>I actually remember for a time that Wikipedia's page on the Stalwart faction of the GOP claimed that they were more Right-Wing than the Democrats because they wanted to "Impose Capitalism on the South". That always makes me laugh.
i find that somewhat ridiculous, but bless the republicans anyway for doign it

>>2821151
It was a Social-Democratic party under FDR, he saved America and the whole world from Fascism

>>2820687
>socialists and communists despite being from wealthy families?
Engels (one of the heads on the communist banner, btw) was a rich factory owner.

>>2821339
engels was not a factory owner, he was employed by his dad as a manager. his family also threatened to disown him for being a socialist

>>2820687
haSSan piKKKer and mamdani are NOT communists they dont even claim to be they call themselves "socialists"

>>2820687
also being a class traitor isnt always bad infact marx also came from a somewhat wealthy family and so did engels

I feel like you have to be really fucking dumb to not understand how people can fight against their "class interests". Human beings are material creatures but we're not robots. We have independent wills and can form opinions and make decisions based on the information available. We also have something called empathy. Not everyone is automatically a 100% selfish cunt. Some people actually want to improve things.

>>2819212
It's basically a strawman on his part. Marxists don't pretend to know the exact way history goes. Lenin and Stalin were writing on how an actual socialist state deals with progress in the technological and social dimensions extensively. He was free to polemicize but chose not to because it would compromise the typical anglo way of looking at the world:
>you can never take action to improve your country because how can you justify doing anything that has a destructive compoment
>us starving the population of Ireland to death is just the natural order of things, we didn't do anything teehee
and even then, the English state was involved in a lot of things like forcing vagrants into the factories, but it's still the natural order somehow.
It's being passive aggressive on a worldview level. The choice is between the capitalist class that is fundamentally incapable of planning and acting as a cohesive unit for any extended period of time and the working class that is capable of that - first through its party, then without it. We have seen what happens when his people are given total freedom and not even the anglos themselves seem to be thrilled at what happened.

complete pseud, the paradox isnt even a paradox if it has a seemingly convenient solution. its him and probably arendt that held back the social science atleast half a century

>>2819212
>Historical determinism to predict future

I'm frankly too lazy to write an actual effort post, but the fundamental problem is that Popper has a tendency to:

<1. consider "pseudoscience" (i.e., unprovable claims) to be false
<2. treat Hegelian historicism as unfalsifiable and definite facts about the future
Neither of which are true. Marx isn't making a historicism. He's not saying that communism has to emerge with certainty in the post-capitalist world order. He's simply saying that the end of political development ends with communism.

Think of it this way: the state and its development change because of multiple conditions (a revolution, class conflict, instability, conquest, etc.). Now, when we look at the state, we can see that it mostly serves as a means to reproduce capitalist reified relations, to ensure property for a specific group of people.

As such, when the conditions that make the state change disappear, political development ceases. This isn't to say that event X can't happen under communism, or that regression is impossible, but that the conditions which create change in the first place (namely, class conflict) disappear. Marx radicalizes this idea by positing that the state, as it exists, only serves the purpose of protecting the class interests of the bourgeoisie, and that, as such, if communism does arise, the lack of class distinction will lead to the withering of the state.

Now, the reason why Marx claims that communism will likely arise is simply from a sociological standpoint: the globalization of the bourgeoisie and the creation of a capitalist hegemonic mode of production has converged toward the establishment of only two classes, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.
For instance, a feudal society like France in the Middle Ages had many classes and centers of power: it had the Church, the landed gentry, the bourgeoisie, the robe gentry (state admins and the king), the peasants, etc. Only one of them took power, leaving the rest to be subject to the now bourgeois power.
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>>2819701
I love mogging liberals who bring up that bitch Arendt by providing them with the quotes of her calling Africans subhuman monkeys and how she wrote in favour of segregation in America.