/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

juche won btw

>>2829353

jesus fucking christ you guys are idiots. north korea has been controlling anarchist and maoist types because north korea unlike china finds a mirror image in the aimless, mentally unfit, starving, drugged up american.

Here is from bing A.I

"Adaptation by the Cambridge Collective
The Cambridge Juche collective, which included the People’s Information Collective and the White Panther Tribe, adapted these principles to the American context during the Cold War. Their specific political stance included -

Anti-Imperialism: They viewed the United States as an imperialist power and aligned themselves with global Third World revolutionary movements.
Black Panther Alliance: The group were allies of the Black Panther Party. The Panthers had adopted Juche in 1969 (influenced by Eldridge Cleaver) to provide a theoretical basis for their anti-imperialist politics and the concept of a "Black colony" within the U.S. seeking autonomy.

Radical Autonomy: They emphasized self-sufficiency and autonomy for oppressed communities, mirroring the North Korean model of national sovereignty but applying it to local radical struggles.
Revolutionary Consciousness: Like the North Korean model, they likely emphasized the need for ideological "remolding" and high revolutionary consciousness among the masses to achieve liberation. "

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>>2829355

hahaha oh how cute you think you are lets be clear about what "winning" actually means. okay okay whatever they expanded their collectives since the 70s. Yeah yeah, they Trojan horsed chaos, political attacks, and societal confusion. But that's not victory not total victory.

When it comes down to the final physical battle for the nation and when the legal framework shifts and we receive operational green light when they rear their heads and the s called "Red Sun" finally exhausts even the liberals tolerance… that's when you idiots will understand what it feels like to have the full weight of the nation come down on you boot first.

I'm talking about Democratic governors and Donald Trump, in bipartisan unity, signing off on the largest domestic counter terror policing operation in American history. Every agency. Every pro-American belief system from neoliberals to fullblown white nationalists all united under one flag. We will be there. Physically. We will stamp you out. And we will throw you into containment units so small, so deliberately unlivable that prison cell will sound like a luxury resort. These will be torture death beds before we incinerate you.

You wanted a final battle. You'll get one.

A Brooklyn man was charged today with threatening to assault and murder a U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement (ICE) officer outside an ICE detention facility.

Nicholas Matthew Scelfo, 27, of Brooklyn, New York, was arrested for influencing, impeding, and retaliating against a federal officer by threat. Scelfo is scheduled to appear today before a U.S. Magistrate Judge in Newark federal court.

“Federal law enforcement officers face danger with great courage, and they should be able to do their jobs without being threatened and fearing for their families’ lives,” said Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. “We take such threats very seriously and will prosecute those who make them to the fullest extent of the law.”

This violent rioter who allegedly threatened to murder an ICE law enforcement officer and his family is being brought to justice,” said Secretary Markwayne Mullin of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). “Our ICE officers are facing an 8,000% increase in death threats against them as they put their lives on the line to arrest murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gang members, and terrorists. Our officers have been assaulted, doxxed, their families threatened. This violence against law enforcement must end. President Trump and I will always stand with our law enforcement officers.

According to documents filed in this case and statements made in court, on or about May 27, during a demonstration outside an ICE detention facility in Newark, Scelfo threatened to assault and murder an ICE officer. According to a video posted to social media and other evidence obtained by law enforcement, Scelfo screamed toward the ICE officer: “I’ll kill your whole f—— family! Your whole f—— family is dead! Your children, your wife, all dead! I have your face, motherf—–! You’re dead! Dead!”

wow buddy, put down the juche meth

behaves just like houdini because theyre smoking that same stuff getting that same brainwashing.


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>>2829161

Yeah that too. Also, look at the last 3 digits of your post ID :)

>>2829170
Thanks dear

What do you think of the points I made in the video?

Your whole video is just self-hating repressor TERF shit and "people shouldn't transition because of some esoteric nazi philosophy about strength through pain". Your video isn't worth engaging with and I hope you feel embarrassed about your anprim phase when you grow up. But fuck your "being kind", it is the height of repulsive liberalism to want to be kind to people you think shouldn't exist. It's what those evil fucking imperialists say while committing genocide. "Oh, we are working against them in every possible way, but at least we're kind! It's just a difference in opinion, you see. Scientifically, they shouldn't exist".

Next time make gay porn for pride (or lesbian i guess, since you are a woman, if ur straight u could collab with a trans woman to get that Big Trans Cock)

>>2813025
>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
this is economism.
why must a labour union only concern itself with the economic wellbeing of it's members when injustices and tyranny exist outside itself?
Why be content with paying dues to a union that will barely fight for your own rights when the gestapo are disappearing your neighbors?

>>2813026
>Why be content with paying dues to a union that will barely fight for your own rights when the gestapo are disappearing your neighbors?
Because you are paying the union specifically to fight for your own rights?
Why the fuck would you be content to pay a union to do one thing but it does something else instead lol.
If it fought for your rights AND against other injustices that's all well and good, but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union

>>2829020
all unions should provide militant arms and martial arts classes.

>>2829020
>but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union
This can be how you end up with a labour aristocracy though. For example, it was common in the past for dockworkers to show solidarity with people in colonial or fascist countries by refusing to load or upload goods bound for or coming from those countries. To take a comteporary hypothetical, if a dockworker's union and management are in negotiations, and management offers a contract that includes large wage and benefit increases in exchange for a pledge not to boycott military shipments to Israel, should the union take the deal?

>>2829034
>should the union take the deal?
You're describing the economist issue. Syndicate action has to be made political, otherwise it is just economism. But it is hard to repoliticize syndicates.

>>2828778
or it proves that anti-imperialism is such a meaningless position, it can lead to calling the most flagrantly imperialist presidential candidate since john mccain an anti-imperialist, because he mildly criticized wars

RAPE TARGET

>>2828637
fpbp

He's doing a great job (of destroying America)

I support him

>>2828797
a guy pretending to be an anti imperialist doesn't mean real anti imperialism is bad are you completely retarded?

>the existence of low quality chocolate means that high quality chocolate is bad.

shut up fuck wit

>>2828819
he never pretended to be an anti-imperialist, that's the thing, he was an open and flagrant imperialist and never lived it down, but idiots claimed him to be one, because he wanted to withdraw from europe (i might add george w bush did this against al gore), if anti-imperialists can delude themselves into thinking the most flagrant imperialist is an anti-imperialist, then such an ideology should be questioned for its real world value

For one thing, such claims carry the implication that young people, including those who are empowered with their rights, are easier to coerce and intimidate into lying on behalf of adult rapists than other adults are, which is an ageist attitude against young people. Such claims are also invoking negative stereotypes and unreasonable distrust of adults by making the strong implication that adults who have a romantic/sexual interest in younger teens are very likely to be unscrupulous. This is a similar sentiment to what I often hear from anti-choice MAAs when they argue in favor of retaining AoC laws: an extreme, paranoia-laced mistrust for adults, with an accompanying belief that society is filled to the brim with adult rapists and potential rapists who are just sitting back and waiting for the AoC laws to be lowered, and will then emerge in mass numbers to pounce on unsuspecting minors, threaten and coerce them into having sexual relations, and then taking advantage of the AoC laws being lowered to intimidate these minors into saying that the rape was actually consensual. I wish people who make such claims would seriously think clearly about what they say before saying it, because they would look far less foolish and totally out of their minds with paranoia if they did so.
In a democratic nation, misanthropic attitudes that presume the world is filled with evil people, and passing laws based on this assumption, are frowned upon with good reason. We cannot pass laws based on what are clearly assumptions about what people might do based on a cynical dislike for the human race and still remain even a nominally democratic nation that is based upon socially progressive values. Yes, there are some evil adults out there who would indeed try to take advantage of young people, but I challenge anyone to prove that these adults exist in such great numbers that they justify oppressive laws that are based upon totally arbitrary assumptions, and which necessitate throwing large amounts of innocent people in prison to make sure that every single truly evil or guilty person gets punished right away. Yes, evil adults doing such things can happen and indeed have happened before, but I think it's nothing less than totally hysterical and even ageist to suggest that huge numbers of younger people lack the fortitude and strength of will to report to friends, family, and the authorities when an actual case of rape occurred regardless of what threats the hypothetical adult rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

He was right tho. There was only one actual communist revolution (USSR), and that later collapsed because of economic conditions, isolation and intense opportunism arising from the large non-proletarian sections of Russia.

But today, almost the entire world is industrialized, and revolution can happen anywhere.

>>2828501
Bureaucracy took over the USSR because of how backwards Russia was around the 1910s. Permanent revolution would've solved everything.

>>2828624
>revolution can happen anywhere
the strength of our opposition is not uniform across space. weakest in the chain.
Neither uniform is the strength of our revolutionary organization of the conscious class, militant and activated in the unions, economic, social and cultural. It too has hot concentrations and cold spots, across the terrain.
>>2828634
Trots have had ample time to take the L. That you're mostly just tailing social fascists to this very day is embarrassing. You're just as dogmatic and inflexible as Hoxhaists. Intelligent Leninists learned the failures of the United Front from Above in the early 20s. You're just another mutation of radlibs, but with additional steps than even the socdems.

>>2828501
Fuck you, OP.

>>2828644
We don't abandon the international working class under any circumstances.

>>2828650
Apparently you can't tell the international working class from the international bourgeoisie. But you always were mensheviks first and bolsheviks for clout. How's Corbyn doing, leading the proletarian revolution? Has he got any artillery from his comrade EU bureaucrats in Brussels yet? NO?? Bummer…

>>2827781
Nelson Mandela of all people agreed with you

>>2828119
>palestine
>hitlerite nationalism
are you german or israeli? either way tie a knot and hang yourself now. do palestinians want a state for one ethnoreligious group only? no, not even hamas does. do israelis want that? look at their actions the last 75 years or so.

>>2828534
It's pretty funny that it happenned to Cenk after now years of trying to appeal to MAGA and other right wing freaks.

maybe i've just been reading too many insane libertarian cranks, but i can't help but roll my eyes when reading socdems these days. "why doesn't the government simply implement an industrial strategy, throw loads of money at industry, generally slap together a good economy single-handedly instead of relying on the market" motherfucker the government can't build a single railway line, have you looked at the government, if the government ran the supermarkets you'd starve to death. it doesn't matter that this isn't a fundamental law of economic reality and that governments in some places and some times can be competent: your actually-existing government is a joke!
forget industrial strategy and big LARPing photos with re-opened shipyards and coal mines, forget "reversing" neoliberalism that never mostly didn't happen in the first place, if you were given absolute power tomorrow you would spend the next 15 years constructing the fundamental infrastructure for implementing policy and you'd likely still fail. but you won't even do that because you can't even organize a party or a takeover of an existing party, or a fucking think tank. as above: so below!

socialists have the same problem times a thousand. less frustrating than socdems because it's easier to see it's in the realm of pure fantasy, but still eye-rolling: what if instead of the state doing a few things, it did everything? what if we tried new planning mechanisms that have never been tried anywhere, or old ones that failed elsewhere, or this really cool one that totally works in china where the state builds a billion miles of railway a day and beats you up if you put your hand in the till, what if we overthrew the entire existing order of things when so far we haven't even been able to get 15 people to show up to a meeting on wednesday without getting into big arguments about who we'll take our our petty psychosexual frustrations on first once we take absolute power, which will happen any day now.

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>>2829198
MIGRATE

>>2827858
Who exactly are you saying is supporting China here?

>>2827858
Critical support to BJP for crushing reactionary Islamists and Maoist ultras who are proven to mismanage the productive forces. India's GDP growth over the last 30 years proves we must support India. All criticism of India is foreign glowie propaganda whose goal is to hurt India's industrialization.

>>2817297
so magic is just marketing/charisma?

>>2817048
Come on, I don't even consider myself that much of a full-on communist, but even I see that China is the most powerful, or second most powerful nation on Earth (depending on the metric).

Now, as to why MRAs won’t help men? Simply put it, they are just one of many idpol groups whose sole purpose is to divide the working class by pointing to men’s issues without addressing the systemic factors underlying it in favor of culture war-type sloppy narratives that demonise feminists and women but not the capitalists that make men’s lives (as well as women’s) miserable.

Indeed, their portrayal of feminism as all-powerful has been discredited with the repeal of the Roe v Wade by the SCOTUS where feminists were largely incapable of stopping the various state-level anti-abortion legislations. Another discrediting factor is that most MRAs, due to their right-wing proclivities, are often incapable of genuine economic critique as most chuds are, so they often resort to spooks like feminism and boomers and sometimes “woke” to explain away the general degradation of living standards for men of all races

Sure, they may be spot on as it pertains to how society favors women more than men, but apart for a left-wing minority, most MRAs are just chuds so their solutions either amount to “reforming” the stuff they shit on like marriage and family, but not once they ever challenge any of those patriotic institutions that make men’s lives miserable, instead pretending that patriarchy would be good without “gynocentrism”.

Ofc some of those chuddish MRAs do acknowledge how a patriarchy often reconstructs the very things they hate, but they’ll support the right wing anyway just because they find the left “icky” both because the left is pro-equality and because of chuds’ general inability to question their own priors. Indeed, many of those white MRAs turn into MeToo-supporting feminazis whenever news of brown-on-white sex or rape is brought up.

Indeed, since angry young white men get nothing out of voting for right-wing parties, it wouldn’t be wrong to describe them as the battered wives or the cucks of the political spectrum because, as much as African Americans are admonished for overwhelmingly voting Democrat for decades, at least the latter gets something out of it in terms of secured civil service jobs. Angry young chuds get nothing at all in contrast.

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>>2828026
>The peasantry as a whole was a huge blindspot for most early marxists its very weird how they thought they could achieve a revolution and overthrow society with only 10% of the population on their side.
they thought stolypin would turn all the peasants into proles. when that didn't happen they began courting the peasants and did it themselves through rapid industrialization after winning the civil war

>>2828032
>Communism is not a popularity contest nor does it concern itself with vulgar populism and majoritarianism as liberals do.
This sort of apophatic theory where you can only say what Communism is not is so tiring.
> With the exception of the impoverished proletariat the vast majority of any given population will violently oppose communism, necessitating party command of military force
well obviously force must be used to carry out a revolution, there are plenty of countries that have an impoverished proletarian majority, and those are the countries where revolution is most likely to succeed. because surprise surprise, it's easier to carry out your political program when you aren't seen as yet another ruling minority that rules at the expense of a majority, which, surprise surprise, even most impoverished proles dislike seeing. Unless you think the proles are sadistic little gremlins who enjoy it when the peasantry, petty bourgeoisie, lumpen also get stomped into dust by the ruling class.

>>2828022
They were a very popular party. In what world is a party winning 25% of the popular vote not popular? Millions of people voted for them so it's only natural that hundreds of thousands would join the party. Returning to the OP, this can also be seen in Duma elections under the Tsar where the estate-based unrepresentative electoral system set aside only a small fraction of seats to be elected by workers (with a restrictive franchise at that), the Bolsheviks won all the seats in the workers curia even then under conditions of repression and illegality. So while the party membership number may create an illusion (often repeated by modern leninists of all stripes) of the bolsheviks being this elite tiny vanguard that explodes in popularity in the revolutionary situation based on their correct theory, the truth is the bolsheviks has been the deeply entrenched party of the russian proletariat for two decades at that point, with their papers having substantial circulation and winning deputies even under the insanely unrepresentative duma electoral system. If anything the notable thing in 1917 is the growth of Bolshevik support among peasants based on their opposition to the war and support for land seizures which helps peel of the bulk of the SRs to the side of the soviets.
As for the constituent assembly elections, they obviously didn't have the support of a majority of the entire population but they absolutely did have the support of a vast majority of proletarians actually who overwhelmingly voted for the Bolsheviks, hence their very large majorities in urban constituencies, also large majorities in army and naval garrisons reflecting their overwhelming support among soldiers and sailors. The demographics of russia being as they were even getting every single proletarian behind you wouldn't be close to enough to reach 50% of the vote, the country was majority peasant and the peasants though many voted for the Bolsheviks too, overwhelmingly backed the SRs and the fate of the constituent assembly had far more to do with the Socialist Revolutionary party than the bolsheviks, since the party split during the elections with a majority of the party's base and activists being expelled for their support of soviet power and the revolution, while the rump party leadership, which in reality had now very little support reduced to the progressive intelligentPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2828177
It's also worth noting that the Bolsheviks were aware of the limits of their popularity and sought to address this issue by offering the SRs a coalition.