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I wanted to share this recent video that made the rounds on the internet here in Iraq. It's presumably of a PMU rank and file, or the relative of one, expressing his discontent with the current social order maintained by his superiors. A far cry from the image users paint here of the 'homogeneous classless orient'.

On another note, while it is understandable, I still dislike the fact that people here are celebrating the death of 'resistance' officials who have massacred them in the past.

I don't trust that they have the foresight to detach their ultimately worthless deaths from the prevailing imperialist war. I worry that this may push some to campism, especially with the US mouthpieces' drool and screams for more proletarian blood. Many Iranian comrades share my same sentiment.

You must've really sucked to make Iraqis out of all people cheer for your US-sanctioned death. Well done islamists, even anti-americanism you ruined.

>>2750912
>the image users paint here of the 'homogeneous classless orient'.
yet you paint an equally false image of the 'homogeneous leftypol poster' in order to get (You)s. curious.

>>2750955
Very nice… now let's see how many armchairs in the general are cheering for the war to continue and to 'glass Israel' compared to those posting the everyday reality of civilian casualties and annihilated neighborhoods.

shii liberals dogging this thread like a bullet lmao

Aircrafts droning near my place again…

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Imagine my shock when I learned that US demographic losses from Great Depression were almost as high as what USSR had suffered from WW2 or WW1. It was like 10 times worse than Soviets' Holodomor, as it turns out. Simply terrifying what kind of horrors US censorship has hidden from us
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>>2752729
>Perhaps OP meant less people being born as demographic losses
I would also think so, if he didn't say
<Simply terrifying what kind of horrors US censorship has hidden from us

>that's basically the same logic western historians would apply to the soviets
true

I kind of want to vindicate the OP, but upon reading the source, it's pretty much the same thing that bourgeois propagandists do when they use projected birthrates to prove that communism killed 100 trillion, but from the other side. Understandable for the Soviets to use this line back in the day, but hardly solid evidence by today's standards.

>>2756101
Never expected a "blacks had it better before Civil Rights" take here but I guess that's par for the course in /leftypol/.

You're memeing right? You genuinely don't believe Blacks had it better in the 60s or 70s than today?

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>>2756135
It's kind of debatable NGL. The Black middle-class has it good but de-industrialization hit fucking hard.

>>2756101
Certain parts of the south. I think it's mainly the cities of the south in particular places like Atlanta and Dallas or Houston.


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https://gh.bmj.com/content/11/Suppl_1/e017221
<Beginning in the 1980s and 1990s, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank implemented neoliberal structural adjustment programmes (SAPs) across most countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. SAPs imposed austerity, privatisation and economic deregulation and have been associated with severe negative impacts on human welfare, including (a) declining real wages and working-class consumption, (b) increased rates of poverty and basic-needs deprivation, (c) increased neonatal and maternal mortality and (d) reduced health system access. Structural adjustment also created conditions for increased financial outflows and drain from the global South through unequal exchange. This paper reviews evidence of these damages and proposes possible options for reparations and distributive justice. We argue that the IMF and the World Bank should be democratised and restructured—or otherwise replaced by alternative institutions—to prevent further harm.

>I'm happy to announce this new paper — we compile evidence on the extraordinary harms caused by IMF and World Bank structural adjustment programmes in the global South since the 1980s.

>The empirical record is devastating: documented negative impacts on wages, poverty, inequality, maternal mortality, infant mortality, healthcare access, etc.

>SAPs inflicted misery on the periphery in order to curtail their consumption, scupper independent development, and make labour and resources more cheaply available for the core.

>As indicated at the bottom of the article, this piece is part of the Walter and Patricia Rodney Commission on reparations. The Commission includes a total of 10 contributions, 5 of which are published here in the BMJ Global Health
https://gh.bmj.com/content/11/Suppl_1

Thanks OP I look forward to reading it

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good thread.

Someone @Ben Norton on Twitter immediately.


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> Be me
> Hanging out with my less radical comrade and his lib friend.
> Starts discussing capitalism with comrade because that's what we always do.
> Lib friend butts in and gives the usual lib response "Yeah I agree but isn't that a bit radical?"
> NeuronActivated.Jpeg
> *Long Yap Sesh about free healthcare, the state and workplace democracy.*
> Comrade starts talking to lib friend
> "Bluegrass is a great debator, I don't think I've seen him lose a single debate."
> This flatters me a bit, I never really thought I was that good of a debator, I really only have surface level knowledge about the topics I debate but I guess that's enough to be considered a master debator when you're debating libs.
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>>2755240
That's when you humbly say oh I don't like debating I just want a discussion.

>>2755240
I mostly advise people who disagree with me to go kill themselves so probably not

>>2755353
the only way to truely win a debate is to kill the person youre debating

i always use the columbo tactic. i pretend to not know much about politics and just ask questions so the other person can reach a conclusion on their own

>>2755240
I'm pretty good at debating cause my father is kinda an IRL debate addict
and well, Im articulate and passionate enough about politics that people dont challenge me much, so its more often discussion, some even ask unprompted for my opinion or perspective on things happenings (iran war for example) which is pretty flattering I admit


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Thoughts on this whole plan for a democratic economic planning system laid out by this discord user? I believe its quite interesting.
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(it said body was too short and i didnt knew what else to write so im writing this)
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>>2744550
just read the fcking book bro

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>>2744496
We need AI planned mode of production asp!

Y'know back in the day I used to sincerely believe that the ideal model of communism would be an AI distribution system removing the human element from it and thus removing the fault lines.

Then I grew up and remembered humans have to program these things and will insert their own biases.

>>2754993
Make an ai that makes an ai that makes an ai, which reduces the biases through every iteration or exacerbates them idk

I hate democracy and I hate ai cultists


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I want to live in a nation where revenge killing is legalized where parents live in fear of their children where everyone just gives up on each other and treats each other like a lost cause broken down and defeated where cell ownership is the law where if a parent treats a child like a slave they are killed and the government and the society celebrates it because they want people to actually be free not slaves they don't value life they value Liberty it would be aspd friendly where people can be blunt gritty open and honest and as long as you don't violate the non-aggression principle you can do whatever the fuck you want but when somebody tries to control you they're violating in the non-aggression principle so you have the right to kill them
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>>2755166
>live in this egoist utopia
>someone tries to brush the lint off your back but forgot to ask
>you kill them for violating the NAP
>everyone claps
yeah no thanks

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>>2755565
you mean ancaps

No I'm saying y'all discriminate against people because you want them to fit into your philosophy where is My philosophy is about defending ones self ownership their person and their property from discrimination that the moral grandstanders must give up and if they try to force their morality on other people they are oppressing them and violating the non-aggression principle so they deserve to die or get sued into Oblivion

And if I could use a spook to benefit myself interest and stop discrimination against me I will gladly do it because that's what egoism is to me doing everything work to work in your own self-interest your own greedy selfish inconsiderate desires my egoism isn't fully based off of Max Turner it's based on the concepts that I've individually adopted so my egoism isn't traditionally egoism it's a personal interpretation of what it means

>>2755657
You have the ideology of Jeffery Epstein


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f I could use a spook to benefit myself interest and stop discrimination against me I will gladly do it because that's what egoism is to me doing everything to work in your own self-interest your own greedy selfish inconsiderate desires my egoism isn't fully based off of Max STurner it's based on the concepts that I've individually adopted so my egoism isn't traditionally egoism it's a personal interpretation of what it means


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This book sucked. It's basically just whataboutism, non sequitur arguments and intellectual wankery (e.g. namedropping Hegel over and over again). It actually made me think that maybe there's a reason Stalin was demonized by post-Stalin USSR and that maybe Trostky was right. Idk why leftists recommend this book so much, it's embarrassing.
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>>2755487
>on the final victory of socialism
Whoever made this stupid picture hasn't read that letter beyond the title, because in it he literally argues with someone who said that the final victory of socialism has been achieved, and says it is only possible on an international scale
>commodity production under socialism
Wow, Stalin after 30 years of building socialism in practice and reflecting on that practical experience has corrected Stalin the 26 year old theoretician. MLism destroyed

>>2755487
>hasn't read on the final victory of socialism and gets all of their info from r/ultraleft memes
lmfao pot meet kettle

>>2752614
>whataboutism
Preddit amerikkkan term

>>2755555
quints of truth
i am american and do not say that term, please spare me for being one 'o' da good ones

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>>2752614
wanna know about Stalin?
Read Stalin instead. He won't namedrop Hegel or philosophy, he will explain why Leninism (having Marx as background reference). You will understand why he's the first and best Leninist.


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>look at le epic based anti-imperialism
>look inside
>kill gays because of “muh western-decadence”


Sorry Leftychuds, I don’t have masochism fetish letting them kill me and spreading reactionary ideologies, just because they are “anti-west”
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>>2752271
It's even more ironic because Anglos are among the faggiest ethnicities on Earth.

>>2755468
Reactionary

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>>2755474
>Reactionary

>>2754653
Societies. Han China was homophile and Tang China was not as an example, despite the latter being extremely advanced by (barely) pre-industrial standards. Obviously Greece and Rome to an extent, and seemingly pre-conquest Gaul even more than them, again despite Rome and Greece being more materially advanced. Obviously my point isn't that homophobia corresponds to how materially developed a culture is, only that you can't assume the inverse. When you actually read about the history of homosexuality you will find what I've been saying, that homophilia and homophobia both occur in all sorts of social contexts and levels of material development.

>>2754265
>Imagine that magically palestinian natlib happens in approximately n + 2 weeks. What's stopping markets from bullying a small poor nation in the middle east into becoming a neoliberal shithole and imposing suffering upon Palestinian workers?
It's kind of an impossible question to answer but I don't think Israel is going away anytime soon either. There's no pre-determined logic that prevents Israel from winning and the Palestinians from flat-out losing.


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Reading and fully understanding these two Stalin quotes are is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. Anyone who thinks Socialism is about Rooseveltian trust busting of monopolies in order to restore petty bourgeois production MUST read and understand the first quote. Anyone who has ever uttered the word "campist" or has said something like "why would I support Russia against NATO or Iran against the USA? That's just inter-imperialist conflict!" MUTS read and fully understand the second quote.

90% of circular arguments on leftypol.org are caused by insufficient understanding of these two quotes.
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>>2754668
>pretty close to truke
what was revolutionary about that? the emir by resisting imperialism allowed afghanistan to stagnate, while its neighbors are all large industrial bases, modern afghanistan is a barely functioning, bombed out state that is functionally an agrarian society

>>2755403
>the -stan countries have a large industrial base
first time I hear about that,and if they got imperialised they would have stayed agrarian anyway since the country was made up to grow poppies

>>2755149
>a feuudal lord says hello
sure showed me

>>2755428
every country bordering afghanistan is more successful than it, iran, tajikistan, uzbekistan, turkmenistan, pakistan, even china, also i don't think it would have, afghanistan had (and has) a remarkably large population and an enevironment in which industry would be superior to agriculture

>>2755433
Hows kim a feudal lord?


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