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DAILY REMINDER THAT PATRIOT FRONT IDOLIZED AN UNDERCOVER ANTIFASCIST SO MUCH THEY MADE THIS MAD LAD THEIR FIGHT TRAINER.

< And then finally, in 2020, there’d been “Gabriel” in California, the infiltrator who everyone really liked. They had been heartbroken to learn Gabriel, an Iraq War vet built like a brick shithouse, was a secret anti-fascist. Looking back, it made some sense: Gabriel, after all, had always insisted on leading combat trainings, using group sparring sessions as a ruse to beat the shit out of different members, giving some concussions.

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This is a guest thread from /farcism/ @ https://nukechan.net/social/thread/611.html



 

Just reminding you that if you don’t want your children killed ask your wife or your girlfriend if she sympathises baby killers like Lindsay Clancy or not, if she sympathises her divorce/break up.


Glad men standing up for themselves current insanity year, because enough is enough!
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The ancients understood that women rule the household and so men are at mercy of the wrath of their wives. It's never up to men.

>>2900988
Who cares about this culture war nonsense? Fuck off back to whatever website you came from.

>>2901019
>watch fiction for facts
Anon…

Who gives a shit about culture war slop?
Sage




 

Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
Is there bourgeois socialism?
What are some interesting yet lesser known ideas from communist thinkers?
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>Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
There were some New Left currents that did this on the basis of (mostly Black) prisoner's movements in the 60s and 70s. Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

>>2899857
>Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

Quick rundown?

>>2900934
It's essentially just a variation on the labour aristocracy theory, arguing that workers (or at least white ones) were too heavily absorbed into capitalist society and were unlikely to revolt. So they proposed that organized prisoners and lumpenproletariat more generally would take on a vanguard role that would eventually draw in the broader masses of workers.

>>2900936
Id love to hear about such movements because i have a somewhat similar belief, that is, that emphasis should be put on the most avant-garde, radical elements in society, the ones that, due to their conditions, are the most opressed in a first world country and would naturally have the most to gain from bringing about communism. An elite, not in a sense of class or education but in their severe resentment of a system that wronged them. IE ex cons,low class homosexuals, transgender individuals, and generally peolple who the system deems undesirable, mostly people who are extreme in their hatred of the status quo for being wronged by it. They would be naturally receptive to an ideology that promises the restructuring of society that would eliminate their subhuman status and should be pretty loyal due to not having a future under the status quo.
These types, should be chosen for their readiness to act violently if needed. With some education and training, they could prove very valuable and a shared struggle would mend their differences to an acceptable level. This nucleus could then, through a agressive campaign, slowly draw the general proleteriat into a broader movement.
I might be an absolute anarkkkiddie and a theorylet for even thinking this could work, but damn if it wouldn't be cool as hell.

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>>2900936
the problem with that is the prisoners are literally slaves stuck in series of geographically isolated panopticons. no spartacus like uprising is possible when the slaves are in a jail. you would need a bunch of simultaneous successful prison breaks from max security facilities. statistically unlikely. also mixed in with the nonviolent workers who were imprisoned for no good reason are genuine opportunists, class traitors, psychopaths, etc. you are unlikely to develop a healthy and lasting political coalition out of that mixture.



 

>failed at everything he tried to do after winning the civil war award
>Divided the communist world over shit that didnt matter in the end award
>Killed more chinese people than the japanese ever did award
>Killed 2 billion birds for no fucking reason award
>Caused china to adopt market reforms and sell out to capitalism because he fucked everything up so badly award
I genuinely wonder how mao fans still exist?
Do they just only read his literature and ignore everything that he did and caused post civil war?
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>>2900832
>in violation of United Nations sanctions
Oh no, anyway

Hoxhaist hands typed this

>>2900832
hello mossad

>>2900841
in violation of international maritime law retard. not sanctions. you cant fish in territorial waters of other nations. Same way you cant appropriate natural resources that aren't part of your nation. nothing
prevents china fishing in its own waters

>>2900847
hello friend, please send us those Chinese cameras for our checkpoints. the palestinians are getting uppity



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long time lurker first time poster. i consider myself to be a leftist and want to get more involved, i recently found out about a DSA chaptor in a mid sized city not to far from where i live, im looking into it but ive heard a lot of distaste for the DSA from leftists online, though i cant find much reson other then
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>>2900786
Rosa didn't support the revolution until you started massacring workers, subhuman animal lapdog.

>>2900800
You seem to be under the misapprehension that 107 year old Germans post on leftypol.org

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>>2900800
<you
He knows. Shut it down.


>>2900717
>>/USAPOL/



 

One of my core political positions and personal values since I was a literal child is that any kind of violence and coercion is way worse when accepted and normalized or state sponsored. I can accept rape, murder, and torture as facts of life that are impossible to eradicate as long as the public is strongly opposed to it and the state cracks down on it. What disturbs and enrages me to the point of wanting to hurt people is when people become accepting of it and even worse when the state starts practicing it. A cruel criminal needs to be turned around and the community needs to be protected from him. A government oficiall that authorizes torture and degradation of a person ought to be shot on sight. The visceral reaction i get from normalized barbarity is so strong that its almost knee-jerk. I wonder if there is anyone else who thinks like this or if im a genuinely insane.
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>>2899842
Shut up it was super obvious

>>2900220
Kill yourself

>>2900220
explain it anyway

for me it was the opposite, violence - real violence - was normalized for me as a kid and it wasn't until well into adulthood that i learned that it was not a normal thing for most of society. i get the feeling that a lot of the people who most vocally endorse violence are the people who have never really been exposed to it, all they've ever seen is videogame or movie violence or shock content on the internet, not actual traumatizing real life violence that screws you up in the head forever when you see it.



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Georgi Dmitrov:
>the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital.

Umberto Eco's 14 traits:
>cult of tradition, rejection of modernism, irrationalism/action for action’s sake, fear of difference, obsession with conspiracy, nationalism, glorification of struggle, contempt for weakness, selective populism, machismo, newspeak, treating dissent as treason.

Rajani Palme Dutt:
>Monopoly capitalism in crisis creating a dictatorship at the head of a manipulated petty bourgeois mass movement, resulting in the collapse of parliamentary liberalism under capitalism,

Normie Lib Political Science Definition:
>totalitarian authoritarian anti-liberal ultranationalism bulit on a myth of national rebirth, dictatorship, mass mobilization, and political violence

criticisms? thoughts?
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>>2816626
>>2822821
The mass games is a thing slavic Communists adopted from the sokol movement it later spread to non Slavic socialist states

>>2816723
>I wouldn't go as far as saying it's the main factor like someone said in a thread a few days ago though.
That was me. I was basing it off of the views of Arno Mayer who himself sees fascism as counter-revolution in the era of mass politics. I think that this is a pretty decent definition for Marxists whether you follow Mayer in his analysis of the persistence of the old regime into the 20th Century or not.

bumping this thread because we have some ahistorical nonsesne

>>>/leftypol/2883864

>>2845253
Which one because vargas is comparable to more so Franco. Meanwhile the 100 percent full fascists of Latam such as the Brazilian integralists were big believers of paligenetic ultranationalism

>>2822650
>>2889594
>Authoritarian capitalism
So capitalism?



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So why is it that all "historically progressive" forces in History all turnout to be white European colonizers who raped and enslaved Black and Indigenous folx?
Is Marxism just a long winded apologia to justify colonialism and oppression?
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>>2891978
Marx was a monkeist?

>>2890948
That's a myth. The typical peasant worked from sun up to sun down every day. Some people have made it out like peasants didn't even have to work that much by confusing the feudal obligations of a serf with how much they had to work. Serfs were expected to farm their lords fields and perform a number of other tasks such as maintenance of infrastructure and basically just doing the lord's chores for free as an obligation to him. The time they had "off" they were working for themselves on their own land and in their own homes.

>>2900715
So nothing has changed

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Marx justified colonialism by the fact that it begets national liberation movements doebeit

>>2893018
>>2891978
Read Anti-Dühring
>the kind of negation is here determined, firstly, by the general and, secondly, by the particular nature of the process. I must not only negate, but also sublate the negation. I must therefore so arrange the first negation that the second remains or becomes possible.



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IN HONOR OF LEADER ANTOUN SAADEH

The man who was martyred 77 years ago killed by an overall conspiracy was not an average person . He was the man who was inspired and had an insight , and who positioned himself from where he could secure the future of his people. He is among those who will not be satisfied by merely existing . His whole being and existence revolved around his people. His name is Antoun Saadeh called also the Leader , a title he earned with everything that goes with it . Not only he was fought and set up by the colonialist predators and their local clientele in the mid of the previous century, but after his martyrdom , all about him was obscured and camouflaged and even buried . He presented a real threat because people felt affinity with him and trusted him and were inspired by him . He was the man who lead the Renaissance proper to our area after WWI and WWII , when the region was meeting so many challenges that range from identity to independence . This was when the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and the colonialists were starting dividing the empire among themselves, and also creating the vicious state of israel , and planting it in the heart of the Arab world.

Leader Saadeh immediately felt the threat , and decided that the people of this area should claim what is theirs, and before they do this, they should know their identity and find out who they are and the common ground which they share or their natural belonging and natural habitat, and accordingly, claim what is theirs before they fall a prey to the conspiracies that seek to divide the area according to the colonial ambitions .. Religion can no more be a Reference thought leader Saadeh after the fall of the Ottoman Empire because the inhabitants of this area are multi cultural , multi religious and multi lingual , and there is need to define what a nation is in all its variety , and to defend this nation and its borders, and secure its sovereignty and unity and independence . It was an attempt at preventing that the identity of the people be lost for ever and an attempt at retrieving this identity .

The people should retrieve their identity – thought Saadeh- Greater Syria being the nation to which those belong , and it is located in what has been known as the Fertile Crescent , in the heart of the Arab World , being also an intrinsic part of this world . Saadeh knew from experience and from his life in Latin America in its attemPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Based his ideology on the people that raped him award

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_conquest_of_Aram



 

Israeli lawmaker smashes Palestinian memorial in occupied West Bank
Zvi Sukkot, a member of Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich’s Religious Zionism party, was filmed smashing the Palestinian Martyrs' Monument in the village of Madama, south of Nablus, with a sledgehammer. In a video posted to Facebook, Sukkot said the memorial commemorated two Palestinians who had killed Israelis and argued that it could not be allowed to remain. “We must take it down,” he said, adding that he wanted the memorial destroyed because children growing up in the village and passing it would be inspired to become “martyrs” themselves.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-lawmaker-smashes-palestinian-memorial-occupied-west-bank

Israeli forces raid UNRWA training centre in occupied East Jerusalem
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the incursion was lawful. In a post on X, he said: “In accordance with my directive and following the law we passed, the evacuation of the UNRWA compound in Kafr Aqab, Jerusalem, began today.” After the raid, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that the Jerusalem Municipality had already commenced work to transform the property into a new educational and community complex.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/25/israeli-forces-raid-unrwa-training-centre-in-occupied-east-jerusalem
https://archive.ph/OGW6r

Polish prosecutors charge MEP with Holocaust denial over Auschwitz ‘fake’ claim
Poland sought to strip Braun of his parliamentary immunity over the remarks, and the European Parliament approved the request in March. Braun, who has a long record of antisemitic rhetoric, is already on trial over separate alleged offenses, including his use of a fire extinguisher to disrupt a Hanukkah celebration in the Polish parliament in 2023.
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House Dems' pro-Israel wing gains power on key panel
In addition to Moskowitz leading Democrats on the MENA subcommittee, pro-Israel Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) and Wesley Bell (D-Mo.) were appointed to the Foreign Affairs Committee on Tuesday.
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/25/democrats-israel-moskowitz-house-foreign-affairs
https://archive.ph/zK1im

FBI raided Spanish vacation rental of wealthy leftwing funder James ‘Fergie’ Cox after his arrest
Baltasar Garzón, a human rights lawyer representing Chambers, revealed the details in an exclusive interview. Chambers is wanted for extradition by the Trump administration for alleged financial support of Hamas, as well as other charges. Garzón, one of Europe’s most famous human rights lawyers, characterized the case as “very strange, one of the most remarkable I’ve worked on”. He told the Guardian the indictment against Chambers was “pretty weak and diffuse”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/25/fbi-raid-james-fergie-cox-vacation-rental

Billionaire-Backed Groups Launch Ad Blitz Against California Wealth Tax
The two most prominent groups fighting the tax, which will appear on California’s November ballot as Proposition 40, are Building a Better California and Californians Against Wasteful Spending and Higher Taxes. The former group, funded in large part by Brin, debuted its first television ad on Tuesday, just the start of what’s expected to be a massive propaganda push against the proposed tax.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/billionaire-ads-wealth-tax

El-Sayed pushes to keep affordability message focus amid scrutiny from both sides
In each instance, El-Sayed tried relentlessly to stay on message. On Fox, he called opponent Mike Rogers a “beta” and took a jab at Pete Hegseth in a response to a question about the federal deficit, saying Watters didn’t seem concerned that the defense secPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

South African CP, Council of the Left constituted: Now we must organise
The inaugural meeting of the Council of the Left took place on Friday, 21 August 2026, at Birchwood Hotel, bringing together representatives of political organisations, trade unions, social movements, community organisations and other progressive formations that participated in the Conference of the Left held in May this year. The meeting formally constituted the Council of the Left and began the important task of translating the Declaration and Programme of Action of the Conference of the Left into organisation, campaigning and collective action. This inaugural Council meeting committed to unity in action, working-class organisation and an immediate programme of struggle focused on: Joining the ongoing mass campaign to reject and defeat the anti-poor Prevention of Illegal Evictions Act Amendment Bill, Defending the Expropriation Act against attacks from the DA, Afriforum, Die Vaderland Stigting and the Free Market Foundation through a combination of court action and mass mobilisation. Mobilising for the Equitable Access to Land Bill to become an effective law for land redistribution and the security of tenure. Using the coming Budget days to campaign for fiscal resources to meet basic needs and address the cost of living. Mobilisation for Parliament to debate and adopt a Cuba Solidarity Bill, together with continued material support for the people of Cuba.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/South-African-CP-Council-of-the-Left-constituted-Now-we-must-organise/

Centrists Despise Hasan Piker More Than They Want to Win
El-Sayed’s primary win was a shock to the system for Democratic centrists, involving not just the victory of a pro-Palestine, Medicare for All–supporting progressive in a key battleground state but also one in which the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) didn’t endorse yet played a key role. This put establishment Democrats in a bit of an awkward position: they have long claimed the Left habitually refuses to “vote blue no matter who” come the general election and so pave the way for GOP victories. This wasn’t actually true, but it’s been one of the Democratic center’s most reliable go-to attack lines against their left flank. With the tablePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Californians should start building guillotines and label them "tax alternatives"

>>2900628
>Nablus
If Hamas had a brain or will of its own it should've focused on terror attacks against isolated enclaves in the west bank to make it uninhabitable to israelis instead of October 7.

It's insane how comfortable settlers are in the west bank when one mortar shell ends their existence.



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