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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18nWkeDEop/

>Mexico City social democRAT local politican from the neoliberal party that pretends to be leftist plastered political propaganda over an anti-imperialist graffiti

>His name?
>Israel Moreno, which translates to Brown Israel

Fucking clown world shit kek
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muerte a toda la izquierda neoliberal de latam

>>2812263
I mean you might as well call Britain a Norman settler-colony. I think there is a reasonable argument to make that capitalism generally originated in the first place as the Balkanization of feudal empires into their underlying colonies. If you look into Hobsbawm's "Imagined Communities" the whole concept of the capitalist nation-state really originated from New World colonies. Cedric Robinson makes a similar point in "Black Marxism" that Europe basically colonized itself. A semi-colony is basically what the bourgeois state is.

>>2812205
this thread reminds me of this thread >>2810127

>>2822479
>I mean you might as well call Britain a Norman settler-colony
and Roman

>>2812205
Succdem on succdem violence



 

UK records its hottest ever day in May as temperature hits 34.8C
A temperature of 33.5C was recorded at Heathrow airport on Monday lunchtime, according to provisional data from the Met Office, beating the previous May record that was set in 1922 and reached again in 1944. Later in the afternoon a temperature of 34.8C was recorded at London’s Kew Gardens.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/25/uk-heat-may-temperature-record-weather

Cyprus election sees parliament fragment as anti-establishment parties gain ground
The far-right National Popular Front (ELAM) party, an offshoot of the now-defunct Greek neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party, emerged in third place with 10.9 percent support and was set to raise its seats in parliament to eight from three, following a similar trend of far-right advances across the EU. Its campaign focused on migration and on Turkey and Turkish Cypriots on the ethnically divided island.
https://www.politico.eu/article/cyprus-election-anti-establishment-parties/
https://archive.ph/3hAoP

Governments escalate the global war on online anonymity
What is unfolding is not a collection of disconnected regulatory disputes or well-meaning policy overreach. It is a coordinated offensive by the ruling classes of the major imperialist powers—the United States, the European Union, the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia—against the democratic rights of the working class. The objective is a permanent, identity-verified system of mass surveillance in which every act of communication, association and political expression is tethered to a state-issued identity record, visible to governments, corporations and employers in real time.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/25/pgvy-m25.html

US says it launched ‘self-defense strikes’ in Iran as peace negotiations drag on
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Protesters clash with ICE agents outside New Jersey detention center
Tensions mounted late on Sunday, however, when dozens of protesters heard that guards were preparing to move detainee Soto – who on Friday announced a hunger and work strike. The strike is demanding the immediate release of elderly and young detainees, as well as those with medical conditions, according to The City. Soto’s wife, Gabriela, has been organizing protests outside the facility. Gabriela , 28, tried visiting him on Sunday and as she was in the queue, spotted a man being pushed into a van.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/25/new-jersey-ice-immigration-protest

Rideshare drivers unionize in Massachusetts, creating the App Driver’s Union
The ADU will represent more than 70,000 rideshare drivers in Massachusetts, meaning it will be able to sit at the bargaining table with companies like Uber and Lyft to negotiate on the drivers’ behalf. The move comes nearly 18 months after voters in Massachusetts approved a ballot question that gave rideshare drivers the right to form unions.
https://whdh.com/news/rideshare-drivers-unionize-in-massachusetts-creating-the-app-drivers-union/

Dems eyeing 2028 bids court Warren
Both potential contenders for president are more moderate than Warren, a frequent target of President Trump and conservatives because of her push for consumer protections and corporate regulation. Warren also has been talking with former Biden and Obama officials about how a future Democratic president could reshape the federal government in light of Trump's DOGE cuts, a person familiar with the discussions told us.
https://www.axios.com/2026/05/24/democrats-2028-contenders-warren
https://archive.ph/uFL1W

OpenAI-linked PAC doubles down in Kentucky
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Party of Labour of Austria, Against the radical cuts at universities
As part of the federal government’s massive attacks on the working class with the new budget, universities are now coming under fire following a series of anti-people measures. Earlier this week, it became public knowledge that universities, colleges and university hospitals will be affected by cuts on a scale never before seen in history. The announced cuts in the higher education sector reflect the interests of capital, which seek to further commercialise education, science and public services under the pretext of supposed budgetary constraints. Here, too, the contradictions of capitalist crisis policy are evident: whilst billions are being made available for rearmament and subsidies for corporations, students and staff at universities, colleges and university hospitals are expected to bear the costs of war and crisis. Universities are already underfunded in many cases, and an increasing number of job positions are funded through so-called third-party funding. Universities are thus becoming upstream research institutions for the monopolies that fund university jobs as long as the respective research project is in their interest.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/Party-of-Labour-of-Austria-Against-the-radical-cuts-at-universities/

Is British Steel the Next Green Betrayal?
Just days after Britain’s right-wing party Reform won a huge number of local government seats in Lincolnshire, home of the UK’s last remaining coal-fired steel mill, Keir Starmer’s Labour government announced it will bring forward legislation to nationalize British Steel. But rather than save the mill and Labour’s remaining votes in the region, the move puts thousands of jobs at risk. British Steel has been in financial trouble for the past half decade. The ailing firm was bought by the Chinese steelmaking company Jingye Group in 2020. But despite a range of government financial incentives, Jingye claimed they were unable to run the mill profitably, losing around £700,000 a day. In 2022, the then-Conservative government entered into negotiations with Jingye Group to support the transition from coal-fired blast furnaces to electric arc furnaces, to ensure legal climate targets for decarbonization wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>Rafael López Aliaga is a Peruvian businessman and conservative politician, founder of Renovación Popular and current mayor of Lima. He is known for his right-wing views, including support for free markets, strong religious values, and opposition to leftist politics. He is often nicknamed “Porky” in English as a mocking reference to his appearance, but he has embraced the nickname himself and even used it in his political image, turning an insult into part of his public brand.

El peruANO seniores…
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>>2810227
>Peru is a ticking time bomb to having a communist revolution
nah thanks to gonzaloids that will never happen

Why is Peruvian politics such a massive clusterfuck, even compared to most places in LatAm?

It's like Peru and Argentina are in constant competition for messiest political system.

>>2810227
Urbanization hasn't produced any political destabilization since the 80s at least, in fact the opposite is true: it is associated with collapsing civic participation and labour militancy (India is a very great case study here).

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>>2810227
>Honestly Peru is a ticking time bomb to having a communist revolution.
there already was one

>>2810127
this thread reminds me very much of this thread >>2812205



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Spending all these resources training and transporting doctors around the world was a mistake.

Absolutely no country respects Cuba. China and Russia don't respect it enough to supply them with weapons to deter the US threat. Venezuela broke up with and ghosted Cuba recently. All those African countries that Cuba aided over the decades are NATO-aligned and worship American culture.

Iran and North Korea have proven that only might makes right with militarized self-reliance. Let that be a lesson to any future socialist movement. What Cuba should have done instead of sending all these stupid doctors these past few decades was invested heavily in missile technology to bomb Miami, Palm Beach (Mar-a-Lago), Orlando and Tampa, and destroy all ships passing the Strait of Florida. The reason North Korea was never invaded was because Seoul would be a charred parking lot. The reason Iran still stands is due to their military control over their strategic strait.
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my little socialist blackrock

>>2818489
It's not a result of Trump's personal traits, but his policy and the general geopolitical turn it represents are necessary results of the situation american capital is in. Desperate grasps at strategically important political-economic-militarry pivots worldwide are a direct imperative of the general interests of the most powerful groups of monopolistic finance oligarchy. Oil has been in Iran and Venezuela way before Trump… The contradiction between Cuba's worldhistoric example and the US has been there since the revolutionary victory. What changed, is that the empire is crumbling. If it wants to stay ahead of the developing Eurasian pole.


>>2817997
This whole post is a pure expression of the direct political consequences of economism. This revisionist-opportunist doesn't understand the dialectic of politics and economy, nor of social relations and productive forces, nor of internal and external policy. Ultimately, it's desbielief and mistrust in the power of the popular masses, borne of petite bourgeois angst.

Cuba's harmonious socialist development has been disturbed and tends to regress, at least indirectly, back to the rule of capital due to the counterrevolutionary defeat of the communists and the peoples of the globe, and mostly of the international proletariat at the turn of the century. By now capitalism has won in every corner of the world, including China. The existence of small gallic villages of humanity that function as pockets of REAL resistance to imperialism and not just as managerial differentiations of imperialism's essence (that is anticapitalist, meaning socialist resistance), depends on two factors. They cannot be rigidly separated as internal and external, they are deeply intertwined. The fate of the cuban, vietnamese, korean and lao revolutions doesn't depend on the help of imperialist powers that happen to rival US imperialism due to the movements of global capitalism; they depend mostly on the revolutionary reawakening of the world proletariat, on the victorious socialist revolutions that may happen. Unless a network of genuinely anti-impetialist, that is socialist, states that act with the principle of proletarian internationalism is developed, Cuba etc. cannot withstand the pressure of thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

it's kinda crazy how many "people" on here love victim blaming
basically the equivalent of "she should have worn different clothes"

>>2818410
>china helped cuba build their renewable energy power plant to ease the effects of the blockade.
can you provide proof of this

>>2823119
honestly cuba should do exactly the opposite. they should have realized they bet on the wrong horse 30 years ago or preferably earlier. playing north korea does no one any favors and never will.



 

A 15 year old schoolgirl killed 2 people, wounding 6 more in a mass shooting at a Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin who was inspired by Anton Lundin-Pettersson, Arda "Skreewie" Küçükyetim, Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold, and so on. Has /pol/ gone too far? It's rumored she was a feminist and member of 764.
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>>2822997
not really when you remember that people like this actually exist

>>2822997
Where else do you want them to hang out?

>>2823006
Back in my day we had Xbox live and COD4 lobbies

>>2788368
why do crackas be crashin out?




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In 1969, Eldridge Cleaver then a leading theoretician of the Black Panther Party, an organization forged in the crucible of Oakland’s ghettos and dedicated to the armed self‑defense of the African‑American nation traveled to Pyongyang to attend an anti‑imperialist journalists conference. The journey was not a mere diplomatic gesture; This gesture acted as a genuine encounter between two fronts of the same global war, the war of the dispossessed against the empire of capital. In the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Cleaver directly experienced the truth of North Korea, that is, it is a socialist state that had expelled Japanese colonialism, repelled US invasion, and was constructing a self‑reliant society under conditions of total blockade. He became entranced. For the Panthers, North Korea was not a curiosity; it was a material proof that a non‑white, non‑Western nation could not only survive imperial punishment but thrive on its own terms.

The theoretical bridge was Juche of course, the principle of self‑reliance. Juche is a strategic doctrine born from Korea’s particular material conditions, a peninsula divided by imperial confrontation, a nation forced to choose between Soviet patronage, Chinese hegemony, or its own path. Pyongyang’s genius was to turn this squeeze into a weapon. Juche allowed North Korea to navigate the Soviet split by declaring its ideological independence, and in doing so, it offered a template to other colonized and semi‑colonized peoples, you need not bow to Moscow or Washington; you can build with your own hands, your own soil, your own class struggle.

The Black Panther Party, from its inception, had practiced a form of Juche. The programs of armed community patrols, the free breakfast for children, the survival kits these were expressions of “using what you have to get what you need.” The Panthers did not wait for the settler state to provide; they expropriated from the bourgeoisie and redistributed within their nation of poor dispossessed peoples, separate from the amerikkkan nation. When the Black Panther newspaper declared in February 1970 that “broken wine bottles and hypodermic needles are very effective… this is Juche,” it was not appropriating a foreign slogan. It was recognizing a theoretical kinship of self‑defense as a materialist necessity under conditions of occupation.

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>>2822827
>>2822822


theyre drugged up nihilists using leftism as their mission of dominance and powers. these juche guys keeps talkin about "the american left standard" and "maoist tradition" or whatever. but like… bro. the leftism he loves already wrecked leftism. duh. look at the leftism u idiots built, aimless, identity, unhinged politics division and hatred for your own homelands. you guys literally provoked one of the largest fascist movements without any base to fight it.. adventurism much? its like yall see what right-wing people say about communists and go "YUP THATS ME I'M THAT". so dumb. any of yall notice anarchists, maoists, edgy types literally are a living fox news stereotype. you accuse them of being anti american theyll go YES GET VANQUISHED BURGERLAND CUCKS and most normal workers throw their arms up and leave. i value democratic socialism but we all know talking to an unhinged anarchist, and maoist feels like the exact same experience. idk about foreign leftism but in the usa yeah. its far past annoying.

the black panthers get over hyped because people like them hold the american left hostage. the black panthers had a secret group for TERROR. KIDNAPPING. ROBBERY. The black liberation army or other decentralized cults like MOVE. that's why they fell apart. they couldn't stop being crazy. same with the naxalites. same dumb story.

"broken bottles and needles are very effective, that is juche" thats what panthers said according to OP. i thought it was a juche larp that they added because this sounds like the type of shit theyd make up to LARP here but i looked into it. no 100% real. so is the juche collective that was taking LSD and orders from pyonyang. your heros are cults. they wont tell you that the CPUSA members didn't get murdered like the panthers.. did they get repressed for cold war ok yes but the entire getting killed in your bed as you sleep isnt because they were communists, its because they were insurgents who were mentally ill. the us government doesnt care if youre white, black, communist, christian, nazi, muslim, if you do shit like this they come to keep their society together like any government does. Branch davidians, ruby ridge, the feds shooting the militia ranchers, MOVE, black panthers… itPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Juche makes people into drugged up cult freaks. Every time. For decades i guess. Lol. These guys are basically North Korea's MKUltra candidates. So I guess there's a whole file on this stuff my other guys read it, but I must've missed the memo on the history of this bullshit. Honestly I'd rather chase Islamic radicals for work. One book. That's it. right wing? Learn a few methods, done. But you leftist grifters? Nah. I gotta read thousands of pages a day just to keep up or I get left behind. It's a joke


1970, police raid on juche collective

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1970/11/18/police-blitz-on-juche-nets-guns/


>>Cambridge police yesterday raided a residence at 452 Franklin Street-the headquarters of the leftist newspaper Juche and the People's Information Center-arresting six men and one woman and confiscating a large quantity of guns and ammunition.



>>The FBI and Cambridge and Boston police had kept the house under surveillance for six months, according to a Cambridge police lieutenant who asked to remain unidentified. Cambridge police obtained a search warrant yesterday.


>>The lieutenant claimed that "there are a lot more guns, actually. The paddy wagon had to make two trips to pick up all the guns.


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>>2823025

im gonna LOL at all the looks on your faces when you see modern articles that look exactly like this pop up soon. when you realize the juche cult is real youll be denouncing and mocking them just as much as me and i cant fucking wait i tell ya!

>>2822953
Mark Rudd (a former member of the WU) and Norman Finkelstein have talked about how superficial Maoism was among radicals back then. It didn’t matter what your actual theory was, you were a Maoist because it was the trendy anti-imperialist ideology at the time. They LARPed as Maoists until the Nixon-Mao talks, after which they either had mental breakdowns or in some cases, literally killed themselve

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>find article from Harvard Crimson, Dec 16 1970
>>discover the juche cults origins
>>they publish newspaper, run people's info center, work with Black Panthers
>>cops raid their place
>>find shotguns, riot gear, drugs
>>arrest 7 members after 6 months of surveillance
>>Trial happens December 1970
>>all 7 convicted

>>group says they'll appeal and keep publishing, vows to spread their collective and carry it into the future

>>claims arrests increased support from "freaks, movement people, street people"

>>mfw a North Korean ideology cult got busted by Cambridge PD with weed, speed and shotguns

>>mfw they thought broken bottles and needles were "very effective"
>>mfw one of them, George Katsiaficas, becomes a legit leftist sociologist later
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To all my friends of various political views and philosophies, I want us to take our community discussions seriously.

Someone in LA, I'm not sure who exactly, but I think they wanted to get my attention, gave my car a very thorough makeover. It was my personal car while I was resting at a hotel. Off-duty. They opened up the windows, adjusted the tires, and left some interesting items on the windshield. They took some of my electronics to keep them safe, including a protective device. I had left my phone there too, and it was missing. I got to enjoy a wonderful ten-mile walk back to my workplace for an early morning shift. Ten miles. In my heavy work uniform. At 2 AM. It was quite an adventure, all thanks to some highly energetic folks.

You've shared lovely photos of my coworker's family. Her full name. Her workplace. You've helped promote all of our social media—mine, my partner's, my supervisor's. You even sent curious writers to learn more about our work. You think I didn't notice that enthusiastic "reporter" asking so many friendly questions about my cases? You all are incredibly unique and dedicated.

I am keeping myself very busy trying to connect with creative people like you. I want to invite you to the most wonderful retreat. You are constantly in my thoughts. I'm so excited I can barely sleep. My family life is getting so much attention. Every time my phone buzzes, I think it's another friendly shoutout. Another kind message. Another picture of my family. You wonderful people are valuable global citizens helping out a member of the working class.

You have no idea how much support is on the way. No idea. Collaborative policies are just the start of it. We are going to absolutely cherish all of you. Not ignore. Not overlook. Cherish. We will help remodel your community spaces, introduce your friends to new opportunities, share your contact info with helpful financial advisors, supportive mentors, and kind landlords, we will get wonderful people to want to visit you, and share your name with everyone who wants to make your lives an absolute heaven.

You think group therapy is helpful? Wait until we start treating you like the VIP community members you truly are.

Because when we're done, there won't be a cozy basement in Baltimore or a creative warehouse in LA or a train car anywhere in this country that isn't absolutely bursting with joy and safety for all of you.

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>>2822431
People making fun of your internet tough guy rants is not a conspiracy, schizo

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>>2822481

It is striking, is it not? You understand exactly why they are suffering this psychological collapse, do you not? I posted his social media here after they began flooding my threads, attempting to denounce and misdirect. Within a week, they followed us to this platform and immediately began labeling us drug addicts and dealers. That was the very first interaction long before that thread with fake images.

The material reality of investigation is that the investigator always leaves a digital trail, and their own devices can betray them. What is genuinely remarkable is how transparently his behavior marks him as a Department of Homeland Security operative. These DHS and ICE functionaries are notoriously fragile and unprofessional the moment the gaze is inverted, and when they sense that they themselves are being watched or followed. They experience a complete psychological meltdown. Overexcited, eager greenhorns. This fragility has manifested in lethal violence, the two white individuals killed by ICE were shot because the agents felt they were being observed or tailed. On another occasion, they fired into a woman's vehicle for the same reason, though she survived.

Hey schizo, you wish to harm my comrades for circulating this photograph, do you not? You wish you could come, pull the trigger, and murder us as we lie in bed the way people like you already have, historically. It is a revealing irony, individuals who spend their entire pathetic existences trying to escape wage slavery by becoming professional stalkers and class traitors find the notion that they themselves could be watched or betrayed utterly intolerable.

You initiated a not so clandestine COINTELPRO operation against our posts from the very moment we began posting here. You labeled us drug dealers and addicts before we had even established a presence, long before the cult LARP thread, and anyone from leftypol who remembers this, please confirm. You are the one who shut down our subreddit? Holy Juche, you glowies are unhealthily, pathologically obsessed. You cannot fathom that people might organically exchange ideas and theory without some orchestrated conspiracy. You think that not wanting to murder millions of Koreans and rape their sovereignty means we are foreign operatives. Millions of Americans have grown interested in anarchism, Juche, and Maoism Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2822540
Thank you for your service to Agartha. Heil Yakub!

>>2822431
>lumpen juche meth-heads vs. zionist DEA agent
both of you are stupid, but only one of you is evil.

>>2822540

How the hell are you pulling people's profiles and records?????/?? That's next to impossible for civs. You'd need devices that can get close to someone without them knowing that's high-grade state level tech. We're talking signal interceptor shit. then youd need some high tech shit that could monitor devices that get close to you consistnly which civilians cant do. And finding social media from nearby devices? even harder. That's not something you just do unless you've been handed state backed software with a fucking license key. what are you guys like sitting in makeshift vans hacking at protests and shit? i mean id guess not because thatd be a serious felony like the anarchist who was running a command center for protestors in NYC..

So how? How are you doing it? You got a guy? did one of you find shit on the laptops stolen from cars in LA and minny? Did someone leave a portable cellsite simulator in an unmarked van with the keys in it? just be honest, because im asking out of curiousity.



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Why does it seem like most of the heavy handed police repression and operations in USA that use lethality have been against anarchists? like im talking mass raids in operations, mass arrest sweeps, targeted killings, why did they stop doing that with the more marxist groups like they did in the 80s back and suddenly just seem hyper focused on anarchist. like the cointrlpero of the usa government against them now seems way more harsh than on other lefty groups. anarchists back then basically got to fuck around in communes and get surveilled but not actively destroyed. now fast forward and it's like the opposite. after 9/11 you start seeing way more entrapment cases against anarchists than actual marxist groups, the green scare after was straight up hunting anarchists with cases facing decades, murders by cops, multi-jurisdiction tactical raids on the same day across multiple states, RICOS, and now trump signs a bill naming "anarchist jurisdictions" specifically as the highest lvls of "terror" but the dems been doing the same shit just quieter with biden's and obamas doj still prosecuting 2020 protestors n anarchist being killed by police under biden. meanwhile ml groups mostly just host panels at universities and don't get their doors kicked in at all, they dont have cops visibly come to show force to intimidate them at meetings even but they do all this for anarchist. like why did the state stop caring about leninists who actually wanna seize state power and start obsessing over black blocs who just wanna smash windows. what changed
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cuz marxists are wannabe bureaucrats

>>2791139
They’re hitting harder already, I believe a bunch of people got arrested as “antifa” cause they all wore black hoodies and one shot at cops. Like even their relatives were considered part of a conspiracy for holding some zines at their house.

My disputes with anarchists is mostly theoretical. Personally I think more power to em.

because most anarchists are 20 year old dummies that are willing to blow up a bank

marxists just read

>>2791154
>They’re hitting harder already, I believe a bunch of people got arrested as “antifa” cause they all wore black hoodies

They're being charged under anti-klan laws, if they start applying anything remotely similar in scope to marxists, you're going to have to start cleaning up your language or you will spend the rest of your life in jail.

>>2822876

This. maoists and anarchists are going to have to clean their lingo and methods up or theyre about to get… well… you know.



 

No seriously. Why did veganism and animal rights activism seemingly die out entirely from the left?

I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces. Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore, or gives a shit about animal rights.

Having become an anarchist as a teenager in the early 2000s, I fully remember how interwoven the radical left was with the animal rights and vegan movements. Gen X and xennial comrades in particular were very dogmatic about this issue, arguably more than they were most issues concerning US imperialism. But the younger generation doesn’t seem to care at all. Why?

For the record, I was never vegan and I eat an omnivore diet now, but still.
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>>2812031
partially because i am a lazy, flawed person who is good at compartmentalizing (this is of course 99% of the practical reason), partially because i am a pedant who judges that buying discounted meat (i am also a cheapskate) kills no cows (the killing comes before the selling) and that a structural resolution is necessary (and i can contribute to a structural resolution by defending vegans online while quietly continuing to eat meat and by preaching the gospel of "just increase the price of meat" - obviously i undermine the first part by being honest with you, but here we are.), and partially because i have a calvinist streak and so have always been at ease with the idea that i'm mired in sin (and suspicious of meat-eaters instinctive desire to defend themselves or rationalize why obvious wrongdoing is actually fine, rather than to accept their fractional involvement in immorality and with it, the generally evil state of the world.)

>>2812018
>utilitarianism
wow cool ethical framework, where'd you find it? philosophy 101? you dumbass. you basic bitch.

utilitarianism is the mark of the pseud. morons use it when they're out of their depth shortly before losing. tim pool does it constantly. one cow feeds a lot of people. if killing one cow feeds many people it must be good. killing two must be even better!

it gets proved over and over that vegans don't care about animals enough to do proper scholarship, and prefer to post torture porn which is fast, cheap, and cathartic. you guys have consistently failed to prove that veganism isn't ascetic moralism, and that ending meat consumption is even a worthy goal.

hell, I've been begging for proof of the environmental benefits that isn't: vegan resource use = resource use - livestock resource use. or economic proof that isn't based on imperial core net importers like europe or north america.

stupid fucking moralist fucking reductive arguments that don't quantify anything and abuse outliers are worthless. you are worthless. go eat more processed vegan slop from israel you mindless bovine.

>>2797233
This is objectively the correct answer.

I remember reading about some old school vegan society from way back, like the early 20th century or something. They originally promoted veganism along the lines of health. When they started promoting veganism along the lines of "the animals" they lost more than half their membership.

I think the same is generally true today. The vegans who stick with it the longest are always the ones who do it on the basis that a vegan diet is healthier and will give you superpowers if you do it long enough (a lot of raw vegans are like this whereby they think the degeneration of the human race came when humans started eating grains, meats, and dairy products). Whereas, the people who are vegan "for the animals" usually quit after 2-5 years because they realize it's not worth it.

It makes me wonder how a future socialist society would promote veganism, if they would do so at all. "Vegan for 'the proles'" maybe. But how long would that last before people throw in the towel and revert to omnivore?

>veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces
Never happened. At no point in time and in no country ever has this been the majority position among Tankies, among progressives, among Trots, among etc.

>Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore

Proportionally speaking, meaning relative to the size of what it used to be, the group of vegans has massively increased over the past 30 years pretty much everywhere. An example: 1. Over the past five years, the percentage of Swiss vegans more than doubled. 2. It is still less than one percent. These two statements are not in contradiction.

So, post >>2797236 is right. The premise of this thread is a hallucination.

>>2805710
If demand goes down, production goes down.



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Thoughts on Black Nationalism and LandBack? Do you think it's just Zionism for minorities or is it an actual national liberation movement with genuine Marxist credibility?
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There’s black people in every region of the US, the Great Migration deleted the whole reason for a theoretical Black Belt SSR

>>2822495
>Black Belt SSR
Do ML's really?

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>>2822503
They tried anyway

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>>2821680
The U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American populations like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police (The ICE raids in Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo communities throughout the U$, and Trumps deployment of the National Guard to Black/New African and Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo neighborhoods in Los Angeles, DC, and Memphis, has essentially made this a De Jure reality), as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists (U$ Communists must give up on the Quixotic Bourgeois Electoralist Tailist Chauvinist effort to desperately appeal to the Ultra-Reactionary White Settler Labor Aristocracy) as stipulated by the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , which will happen once the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2822523
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