/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2497166
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>>2497789
All this talk of heroism or whatever you call it, just ends up taking the place of the people who actually need the revolution. Class struggle comes from the day-to-day fight of the proletariat, not because you want to play hero or throw yourself at the state.

The whole idea of a "selfless revolutionary martyr" is just a moralistic fantasy ripped straight out of bourgeois crap about sacrifice, service, and higher duty. This is exactly the bourgeois morality of sacrifice, a petty craving for recognition masquerading as heroism.

>>2504378
What are you a left commie ultra?

>>2497126
Man, whoever got to mating press this WOMAN is one lucky bastard.

>>2504378
Truclear nuth.

>tfw when you will never clap Ass-ata's milfy mature big black booty cheeks.
Why even live?

>>2503518
Nuclear missiles are different. The first wave of warheads will explode in the atmosphere and the heat and radiation will make it extremely difficult to track the subsequent waves and the majority of them will get through, this is even if all the decoys accompanying them aren't included. With hundreds of warheads falling, at minimum every single city and military base will be destroyed.

>>2503404
Russia-Ukraine isn't a serious war. It's a forever-war subsidy for the military-industrial complex.
>>2503441
Capitalism is stabilized by destruction and destabilized by creation. It's very counterintuitive. American capitalists "win" if both America and its enemies become hellholes. It's like cancer. Cancer + cancer is just cancer. Cancer + health is cancer. Nazi + Nazi is just Nazi.

>>2503381
Like the Nazis, the U.S would get a shitload of people killed and then ultimately lose. I mean if we want to crash our civilization in the style of a guy on PCP holding off his compound against the ATF. I guess it'll be fun for future generations to read about and we can be the generic bad guys for the next 80 years in every movie and video game. If even the U.S won ww3 there ain't going to be much left.

China vs. USA is even faker than Democrats vs. Republicans.

>>2504817
thats one of the most stupidly wrong statement I have ever read

Harvard study exposes deadly toll of private equity hospitals
Research led by Dr. Zirui Song of Harvard Medical School published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, September 2025, has delivered one of the clearest warnings yet about the dangers of private equity in American hospitals. The study demonstrates in no uncertain terms that when hospitals fall under the control of private equity firms, the pursuit of profit takes precedence over patient care, leading to deadly consequences in the most critical areas of medicine—the emergency departments and intensive care units of US hospitals.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/29/wiwn-s29.html

Labor unions sue OMB, OPM for ‘unlawful’ threats of mass layoffs ahead of shutdown
The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California by the American Federation of Government Employees and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The unions are asking a judge to declare the layoff threats illegal and to invalidate any actions the administration takes to conduct layoffs during the shutdown.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/30/labor-unions-sue-omb-opm-00589170
https://archive.ph/DmlQt

White House puts on hold $18 billion in funding for New York City rail tunnel and subway projects
President Donald Trump's administration said Wednesday it was putting a hold on roughly $18 billion to fund a new rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River between New York City and New Jersey and an extension of the city's Second Avenue subway because of the government shutdown. The White House budget director, Russ Vought, said on a post on X that the step was taken due to the Republican administration's belief the money was based on unconstitutional diversity, equity and inclusion principles.
https://abc7ny.com/post/trump-team-puts-hold-18-billion-funding-new-york-city-rail-tunnel-subway-projects/1791Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

What’s stopping China from guarding the flotilla?

PFLP Declares, “We Will Remain Loyal to the Blood of the Martyrs and Committed to the Resistance”
On the first anniversary of the martyrdom of its Political Bureau member Nidal Abd al-Aal and his comrades Imad and Abd al-Rahman, the PFLP declares: “We will remain loyal to the blood of the martyrs and committed to the resistance until liberation and return. There is no fear for the resistance, and Gaza will remain the day after… The will of the people is steadfast against all attempts at liquidation.” The leaders were assassinated on September 30th, 2024 in Beirut. “Their blood has become a testament to the great truth: that martyrdom is a deeper presence in the collective conscience of our people and our nation, and that the martyr has become an idea that never fades, a legacy that flows through the veins of the resistance, becoming a seed that sprouts a thousand fighters, and a resounding voice that awakens an entire nation.”
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/21641/

Here to fight, here to stay: Imperial Typewriters strike
Three years ago in September 2022, Leicester made national headlines for communal clashes between Asians, initiated by a 200 strong march of Hindutva inspired fascists. The march and clashes took place in the shadow of the Imperial Typewriter building, which still stands today on East Park Road. The cruel irony of the act was that 50 years ago, this very area was the epicentre of one of the largest anti-racist strikes to rock Britain, led by Asians together.
https://communist.red/here-to-fight-here-to-stay-imperial-typewriters-strike/

Trump’s 20-Point Gaza Plan: A Rubber Stamp of Legitimacy on Israel’s Subjugation of Palestine
Three weeks after Israel attempted to assassinate Hamas’s lead negotiators in a series of airstrikes on the group’s offices in Doha, Qatar, President Donald Trump hailed the public announcement of his 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza as “potentially one of the great days ever in civilization.” The framework was drafted in coordination with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s top adviser, Ron Dermer, and spearheaded by Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law, Jared KushPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Why is the pope supporting Hamas’ surrender?

Adorno and Horkheimer were pro-imperialist traitors.

>>2504245
All i am getting here is TOTAL STALINOID DEATH

Ostrich backshots

>>2502334
I would too. I feel she would some really freaky things and that beats out looks sometimes yet I'm still physically attracted.

>>2501652
The entire population will receive housing, employment, education, healthcare, community, nutritious food, leisure, transportation, and culture with the planning of the socialist economy. Antisocial tendencies will eventually diminish with the most problematic elements of behavior receiving re-education along with punishments against counterrevolutionaries, reactionaries, and liberals who oppose the dictatorship of the proletariat and the political domination of the proletariat.

Let's begin with a quote from Lenin in a political program at the time:

<8) State insurance for workers covering old age and total or partial disablement out of a special fund formed by a special tax on the capitalists.

<8) Full social insurance of workers:

<a) for all forms of wage-labour;

<b) for all forms of disablement, namely, sickness, injury, infirmity, old age, occupational disease, child-birth, widowhood, orphanhood, and also unemployment, etc.

<c) all insurance institutions to be administered entirely by the insured themselves;

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When I talk about weirdos and outsiders, I don't necessarily just mean people born with disabilities or mental health issues, but everyone who is out on the fringes of society. Every society, every group of a large number of people has to have a ingroup of people who are together in the center and an outgroup of people who are scattered all around the rim, on the outer fringe. This is just basic geometry, mathematics. You shave away the outer fringe, what remains becomes the new fringe. You shave and shave until you're down to just one person, one atom, one particle, etc. Where does it end?

>>2503528
Antisocial behavior typically stems from the capitalist economic system as a byproduct of the superstructure, which affects the population's culture under bourgeois hegemony. Currently, the financialization of the economy under neoliberalism can be observed, with privatization, deregulation, debt, and the short-termism of capitalism in its current state affecting the masses in their antisocial behavior.

The proletariat must become the new ruling class with the dictatorship of the proletariat to socialize the economy, abolish private property, the anarchy of production, and social classes. With this, all reactionaries, capitalists, landowners, speculators, counterrevolutionaries, liberals, and agents for the maintenance of the bourgeois state can be re-educated, expropriated, and, if necessary, punished for refusing to accept the dictatorship of the proletariat and political domination under the proletariat.

The rest of the masses in a socialist society will not have the ability to project false consciousness without capitalist propaganda and the stress of unmet needs to project a false response of prejudice. Remember that there will still be the problem of imperialists sabotaging, spying, and grooming collaborators who will be combated and punished as long as there is no global socialist hegemony and the imperialist-capitalist threat, along with other unfulfilled conditions, so that the socialist state can wither away.

The state exists for one class to oppress another; everything else is a fantasy due to the irreconcilable contradictions of a class society when private property comes into existence.

Let's take the Communist Manifesto's own program to demonstrate my point instead of clinging to individualistic sentimentality:

<The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as quickly as possible.

<Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appearPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2501652
every communist in the English speaker world is an "outsider" and probably considered "weird"

>>2449825
based and wiping out all vestiges of previous modes of production pilled

>>2503667
>the bible
not enough vestiges wiped out

>>2503669
we have to accelerate further

Theres more replies ITT than there are people living on the North Sentinel Island

They will rejoin the world when we develop our scientific communism, which they will be familiar with since they are already under communism (primitive communism).

>>2503586
It's actually because he always chases the tails of people who despise him, like Never Trumpers, neocons, Maggie Haberman and the radlibs at the NYT, etc. The Kremlinoids didn't play hard to get - they kept tolerating his abuse and kept complimenting him.

>>2502142
>He does have a point about you leaning on Mercouris and also in my opinion Mearsheimer, like does your autism lead you to think because those surnames begin with "M" that it's automatically Marxist analysis
I value realists and Westerners self criticizing
>>2502145
>The cause of war is russia invading ukraine, simple as
The cause is regression in the imperialist countries that cannibalized bourgeois democracy under globalization. Russia is a mere deflection from this. The war with Russia is one with the American slide into a plutocratic police state leading an international system tightly controlling member stations, as seen lately in Moldova, and dictating to emergent countries outside of it. The regression was seen with the 2014 coup and 2021 NATOization of Ukraine, which demonstrated intent to achieve security of a militarized Europe at the expense of Ukraine's Russians in Crimea and Donbass. Russia sought to freeze the conflict including until the very end, when it was forced to partially mobilize and abandon Europe.

The US drove the crisis with its division of the world that subjected Ukraine's Russians to a hostile dictatorship targeting them as the obstacle to national revision. Don't base liberal democratic global power on reactionary foundations like ethnic supremacy and national division of a former socialist union and this won't happen. Putin demonstrated repeated willingness to work with liberalism where it manifested diplomatically in Obama and Merkel. Now he's just rubbing your face in the war you wanted with Russia all along by destroying the AFU.

>>2503724
>Now he's just rubbing your face in the war you wanted with Russia all along by destroying the AFU

How is the destruction of AFU a problem for burgerstan? Especially since urop pays for it in energy and weapons.

>>2502309
lazy fuck

Alright, remade the thread after the Adam Smith guy's OP got deleted:
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>>2502112
>Crypto has 0 utility
I can buy drugs on darknet markets with it
>>2502154
>I'm saying it's a high risk investment with much less guarantees than investing in stuff guaranteed by the big bad government, but you guys are convinced its the opposite
I'm not saying that at all. you only need to look at the wild swings in the price of crypto to see that it's not a very stable investment. what I'm saying is that despite this crypto still has value, because it takes labour to mine it. the bits themselves have value because of this
>>2502154
>The value of the Labubu is the IP, the brand recognition
that's not what value means in Marxian terms
>>2502156
>THE VALUE IS THE UNDERLYING ASSETS!
then you're talking about the asset, not the paper itself. I've already made this argument with my soup analogy
>>2502158
>>self-employed people CANT make profits
><profit didnt exist before capitalism
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>>2501785
yeah i get that vibe from him. he also doesn't seem like someone who's willing to self-reflect given how I've been disagreeing a lot with his takes on why the left has been failing and the right has been so successful

Deng won.

>>2502664
>planning production, not "managing the economy"
what's the difference in your opinion
>Planning production means consciously organizing production within the limits of resources and in harmony with nature, it's not the same as the economy.
how so?

Cockshott agrees

>>2502664
>Many idiots assume that a "planned economy" must mean rule by managers, bureaucrats, or party bosses. But that assumption already shows they're still thinking within the categories of the society they claim to reject.
You are totally wrong. Building Communism without proletarian managers, executives, and Party leadership is impossible because the socialist enterprises (including industry, agriculture, communications and transportation, commerce, and all production and circulation departments) are the basic unit of human material production and exchange. Interpersonal relations in production exist in enterprises in large numbers. Interrelations among the laboring people are chiefly of two kinds: The relations between the leadership and the masses and the relations between the management personnel, technicians, and executives (mental laborers) on the one hand and the worker and the peasant (physical laborers) on the other. The correct handling of these two aspects of these relations, that is, to “create a political situation in which there is centralism as well as democracy, discipline as well as freedom, unified determination as well as individual happiness and vitality” (12), is an important issue in consolidating and developing socialist production relations and in improving socialist enterprise management. In enterprises, there are also the relations between the worker-peasant laboring people and the two exploitative classes. These relations have been analyzed above.

The socialist enterprise is an enterprise of the working class and the laboring people. The working class and the laboring people are responsible for leading the enterprise through their representatives. This gives rise to an issue of the relations between the leadership and the masses. Although the leadership personnel and the masses in the enterprise hold different jobs in revolution, they are “comrades-in-arms in the same trench” who share the heavy duty of properly managing the enterprise and who labor for a common revolutionary goal. Workers on the Shanghai wharfs put it nicely, “Though jobs are different in revolution, our thinking must be in unison.” These words pointed out the key to improving the relations between the leadership and the masses in the socialist enterprises.

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>>2502664
and what about planning the production of production?

What does Kendi say to Di Angelo on their long walks?

I thought that was ASAP Rocky for a sec.

>>2503136
That explains it…