/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2392022
Tribalism makes more sense than nationalism. You at least know the people you associate with. Nations are fake identities where millions of people you will never interact with supposedly are the same somehow.
If you go above the tribe might as well go all the way. Why stop at a few million, instead of billions?

>>2392011
Ukraine already joined the US team, and the people are being massacred because the US thinks it'll harm Russia. Or at least they were being massacred because of that, its mostly for no reason now :(

>>2392018
Everyone in the US already has diabetes, amigx

>>2391929
>They aren't opposed to American interests lol.
????

>>2392266
Just ignore it. They are off in their own world.
Like playing chess against a pigeon.

>>2392154
>noname
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>>2392159
There are several times DPRK has let in documentary teams, it's not unheard of.

Sage why are either of us entertaining this OP?

>>2392169
>There are several times DPRK has let in documentary teams
Of course controlled, not a smear campaign like OP wants to do.
The only instance I remember when it got out of hand was this one documentary made by Russians, which still failed to portray the DPRK as even remotely terrible.

Make two channels, one positive, one negative, and wear a mustache and tophat for the negative one.
Free money from both sides, and you can use everything you film, no waste.

>>2392166
this is fire and she calls out Beyonce for being a lib that glamorizes the military

>>2391393
Front status?

>>2391551
11 more years.

I guess I pulled the trigger on the new thread a little too early so MY BAD

>>2391700
I'll help you out then, lil idiot
bdmp (bring down my post)

Ancient Egypt had a command & palace economy. Considering how long their empire existed it might be one of the more interesting ones to look into.

>>2376098
Sort of related to your point, I've been reading a lot of Ranajit Guha recently, and in his book History at the Limit of World-History, he critiques Hegel for a limited view of history:

Guha critiques the concept of world-history in the lineage of Hegel as being almost exclusively Eurocentric. Yet this is not merely a cultural rebuke, for Guha sees that Hegelian history, a worldview that saw human development motivated by a transcendent world historical ‘spirit’, as one ‘held in thrall by a narrowly defined politics of statism’ (p.5). World-history then took on an elevated quality as something that only people who had both writing and a state were able to participate in (p.10). Thus by ignoring the vast majority of the globe, Hegel’s world-history becomes ‘a short story with epical pretensions’ (p.35).

here you go anon. these might not be exactly what youre looking for in the sense that theyre not focused surveys and have their own broader theses, but ive read all of these and theyre excellent. idk how these versions are because i have the physical copies, but if youre interested in this topic i highly recommend them.

the banaji and wood books in particular are really fucking good

>>2376098
Believe it or not, Churchill

Moved to >>>/edu/24656.

>>2390941
Already pointed out.

strategic reason the zionists are protecting the Druze.

>>2390951
I think the complete demilitarisation of south Syria is still a more important goal.

>>2390822
I'm confused. Why are the islamists letting a lady with her hair out read the news?

>>2390890

Unlikely. Israel just isn't that important.

>>2390864
>1.Isreal is utterly dependent on American aid and American support is dwindling.
False. There is a mild PR distancing from the last stages of the genocide. If anything the US has shown they are wiling to go the extra mile for Israel in reshaping MENA and enabling the settler colonialism. For the USA's own interests of course.

>2. Jewish people are not the majority in Israel/Palestine. No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.
This is just not correct. Colonialism is perfectly viable as long as you are willing to make the investment. For NATO it is very worth it to pay all the extra cost of sustaining Israel because the returns are at least, keeping MENA under their heel and securing the petro-dollar.

>3. The B.D.S. movement. Israel simply cannot afford to become an international pariah.
The BDS movement is a liberal, individualist boycott. It hasn't worked before, It didn't work during the genocide and it won't work after they are done with Gaza either. The USA and NATO command too much of worldwide capital for BDS to ever be anything more than a liberal, individualist consumer boycott. Little more than PR which can be fought with PR. Capital proper will never stop flowing to and from Israel.

>4. A large percentage of Israel's Jewish population will leave when Israel is no longer able to support a First-World standard of living.
You can count on it, IIRC about 700k already fled early on. But your assumptions that Israel is gonna find it's standard of living diminished or such is pure fantasy. If anything it's gonna be pampered by all of NATO to a full recovery and economic bonanza. As the new comprador agreements are signed and the cold war progresses Israel will continue to grow as a hub of intelligence and military tech sponsored by NATO.

Backing Israel and showing your support materially is the encouraged way to butter your way up to NATO. This will not change and the cold war will only make it more important. As well as a global arms trafficking HUB and all sorts of corruption and money laundering hub for NATO/comprador related businesses.

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>>2390885
Zog isn’t a myth.

>>2390864
>No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.
lmao

If Israel was really collapsing in two more weeks, leftists wouldn't be deluding themselves about how Israel is totally going to invade Egypt and Jordan any minute now, and thus force them to no longer be collaborators necessary to Israel's existence.

>>2387150
An anarchist worth arguing with is about as likely as a flying pig. Engels mogged anarchotards 150 years ago and they’re still seething over it

>>2388606
So a state. You’ve made a state. And who runs this “federation”? An anarcho-president?

>>2388896
A network of worker cooperatives exchanging goods on the basis of their market price would fare infinitely better than the USSR style centrally managed economy, and that's a fact.
The only area of human activity where big, state managed organizations have historically had an upper hand is the military. This is highly unfortunate elephant in the room, although we also have important exceptions to this rule with highly successful guerilla movements.
As soon as the problem of military is solved (drones maybe?) this state parasitism will be over forever. You can call me a prophet.

>>2384528
Good to know Marx and Engels were utopians for wanting to get rid of the division of labor. How about the bit about labor being life's prime want? Even with future techniques, who would love doing sewer maintenance, butchering animals, or installing electric lines?

>>2384528
>utopian nonsense. there's nothing to suggest anything but the deepening of the division of labour
i agree, marx's idea of communism is dumb:
>In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm
>>2390802
this is where the early marx (german ideology) is superior to the late marx (critique of the gotha program).
>in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm

The myth that the CCF was antifascist must be destroyed. All these radical movements stem from De Maistre and Bakunin.

>The Congress for Cultural Freedom:
Making the Postwar World Safefor Fascist `Kulturkampf'

The president of the CCF's Executive Committee was Denis de Rougemont, a Swiss national who had introduced Paris to the works of Nazi philosopher Martin Heidegger, Soren Kierkegaard, and Karl Barth before World War II, through his magazine Hic et Nunc.

De Rougemont, known for his book Love in the Western World, wrote a Gnostic broadside attacking the morality of the United States under FDR, which can only be taken as an attempt to undermine the mobilization to defeat Fascism in World War II. Entitled "On the Devil and Politics," and written while he was stationed in the U.S. working for the Office of War Information (OWI), it was published in the June 2, 1941 issue of Christianity and Crisis.

De Rougemont's thesis is that all men have an inherently evil side to them which is at least an impulse. Every individual risks that his impulse might actually become real under certain circumstances, and an individual must know that evil resides in himself, or he is not a functioning human being.
[https://larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/3125ccf_kulturkampf.html]

>The Congress for Cultural Freedom: Making the Postwar World Safe for Fascist `Kulturkampf'

https://larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/3125ccf_kulturkampf.html

The working relationship between the British elites and their American counterparts, in what ultimately became the CCF, traced back to a 1948 tour of America by Arthur Koestler.

Born in 1905 in Budapest, as a young man he was an aide to Vladimir Jabotinsky, the self-professed Zionist promoter of ᴉuᴉlossnW Fascism. When he was 27, he joined the Communist Party and went to Russia, where he wrote Of White Nights and Red Days, which was funded by the Comintern.

Koestler next operated in Germany, and was exiled to Paris when Hitler took power. There, he worked for leading Comintern agent Willi Munzenberg, and became an expert in running infiltration and neutralization operations against political organizations. In 1936, Munzenberg deployed him on a spy mission to Spain, where he was interned as a political prisoner. Though he was a well-known Sovet intelligence asset, it was the British who intervened to get Koestler freed. In 1938, he resigned from the Communist Party and went to Paris. During World War II, he was interned in France, and while in jail, wrote his "Damascus Road" repudiation of communism, Darkness at Noon. His book became one of the propaganda documents of choice for Dulles and company, circulated through the Congress for Cultural Freedom…

Very interesting. And that it all tied to CFF and pre-war modernist Catholicism is consistent with what i have read about CFF

>>2390225
I have zero evidence of this but based purely off vibes and my own intuition I feel like the anti-communist right as been replaced with anti-communist liberals (all the affluent libs who support BLM and trans rights but are violently hostile to class politics).

>>2389805
Hummm speaking of, are we assuming for this hypothetical that nation-states don’t exist? What about imperialist influence from remainder capitalist countries?

Also, do you think that a socialised alternative will generally outperform a capitalist structure in any situation where-in there’s some market? Or are you under the impression that the state would use its monopoly to either dismantle the original or produce a better version using economies of scale? In either case it sounds to me like on some level you accepted that there has to be some capitalist frontier for socialism to use as evidence for interest being present.

>>2389810
Okay, that makes a lot of sense thank you. I feel sufficiently convinced by your reasoning.

>>2389826
>>2389810

Essentially the point that you’re making is that due to the TRPF the core elements of production become socialised, which precipitates to downstream areas of the economy, whereas fighting upstream to re-privatise the base is somewhat of a losing battle since it’s not even profitable for the bourgeoisie to do so. This is compelling reasoning I think.

>>2389787
You think they'll eat me literally? I could get off to that

>>2386148
>Where is the definitive proof that capitalism must end?…how the bourgeoisie induct new countries into the capitalist process, and how they offset and attempt to distract from the detrimental effects of accumulation.
<"By the time a tumor reaches clinical detectability, it contains around 10^8–10^9 cells. However, during tumor formation, significant cell loss occurs due to cell death. In some estimates, it could take up to a thousand cell generations, over a ~ 20-year life-span of a tumor, to reach clinical detectability, which would correspond to a “theoretical” generation of ~10^30 cells. These rough calculations indicate that cancers are under negative selection. The fact that they thrive implies that they “evolve”, and that their evolutionary trajectories are shaped by the pressure of the environment." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41418-024-01402-6

>maybe the class war is eternal
A tumor can't evade dialectical struggle except inside a laboratory:
>HeLa (/ˈhiːlɑː/) is an immortalized cell line used in scientific research. It is the oldest human cell line and one of the most commonly used. HeLa cells are durable and prolific, allowing for extensive applications in scientific study. The line is derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951, from Henrietta Lacks, a 31-year-old African American mother of five, after whom the line is named. Lacks died of cancer on October 4, 1951.
<HeLa cells, like other cell lines, are termed "immortal" because they can divide an unlimited number of times in a laboratory cell culture plate, as long as fundamental cell survival conditions are met (i.e. being maintained and sustained in a suitable environment).
Liberalism is eternal (in a petri dish)

>>2389161
>a script vetted by the Pentagon
the Pentagon only vets scripts that depict the US military and/or US military equipment. they don't give a fuck about tard wars lol

>>2389455
no.

>>2389073
Gem

>>2389446
hes doing the hawk tuah face