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I think there are 2 opposing points on non id-pol when discussing the current problems in the relationships between men and women and the dating crisis

>1) this is not important or caused by alienation and capitalism, end capitalism and these problems end with it


>2) this is as important as economics and we need a cultural revolution to then fix the economic issues


which is right? maybe the 2 of them? or is it just men/women that need to step up?
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>>2493936
Not het just aware that you're a tool

>>2496449
I think most incels are just sad boys who stay away from most people. Only a small amount of them will ever go on a shooting spree or whatever.


>>2493907
They hated Nona because she told them the truth

SAGE
MOVE TO >>>/siberia/



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Comrades, can someone explain the historical origin of the blood libel without hysterics? I feel like it must be really false in regards to Jews if only because Torah directly prohibits the consumption of any kind of blood (even the one of an animal), but… it feels a bit too specific to be competely made up. What is happening there?
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>>2507036
But witches did exist! …Of course, in reality they couldn't "cast fireballs" or even hex the village's crops to fail. But they could create medicines from herbs and stuff, and it could even work!

Speaking seriously, the myth of the witch has its roots in material reality.
Most myths are rooted in material reality
in at least some way.

The scapegoat comes first, the mythmaking comes afterwards.

Christian peasants needed an explanation for why their lives were still so horrible even though they were ruled by Christian lords

They're all true

Vampires, scapegoats, idk

As an aside, the jews of europe have historically been the victims of ignorance, rather than malice. Like you bring up the Torah, the average euro peasant would never have heard of such a thing. When the black plague happened, jewish communities were spared the worst outbreaks, mostly because they were already isolated due to discrimination and had practiced "better" hygiene for cultural reasons. Because of this some peasants just assumed they must be behind the plague and killed them for it.



 

One can be sexist against men. Patriarchal society is institutionally sexist against men despite the benefits it provides. Gender liberationists acknowledge this and understand how feminist movements have also broadly benefited men.

One can be racist against 'white' people. 'White' supremacist society is institutionally harmful to 'whites' despite the benefits it provides. Anti-racists acknowledge this and understand how anti-racist movements have also broadly benefited 'whites'.

One can be classist against the bourgeoisie. Capitalist society is institutionally harmful to the bourgeoisie despite the benefits it provides. Socialists acknowledge this and understand how socialist movements have also broadly benefited the owning class.

Whether these prejudices are necessary or justified is a personal opinion. However, it is absurd and hilarious to pretend, for a common example, "you can't be racists against white people". This slogan signals denial, a post-liberalist rationalization, based on the idealist assumption that "racism is bad because uuhh it just is", and that they don't see themselves as bad, that their racism is therefore not racism. Instead, we must understand why racism is harmful to society, both institutional racism and other forms.

For another example, classism may be rationalized by oversimplifying the class tendency for the bourgeoisie to preserve their superiority. Perhaps a proletarian revolution, under the pressures of counterrevolution, may unfortunately resort to some form of classicide when circumstances don't give us the opportunity for nuance. This is not ideal, we know many heroic traitors of the bourgeois class who have sided with the proletarian movement. But it may be justified or rationalized when circumstances force it. For example, the regicide of the Romanovs was a tactically beneficial action. We've seen historical cases where royalty have rejected their title and privilege, but due to circumstances, the Bolsheviks would have been irresponsible to let the Romanovs live simply for this possibility, while on the other hand, the CPC were responsible to let Puyi live. Perhaps, if there were not an ongoing royalist civil war, the Romanovs could have been given a similar fate…
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>>2506293
How does it compare to Indian oppression in South Africa and its complications?
Men are oppressed by the patriarchy, and generally their class position, but still have some benefits over women – just like how Indians were oppressed in South America but not as much as Blacks – is it justifies to go "Kill the Boer" on men because they have it slightly better?

That's the actual type of question.



>>2505690
There's clearly different types of reactionarism.

Your sexism against men point for instance, if you dont wanna call it sexism, then do you just call discrimination?
And since it's NOT sexism and instead a discrimination, would you call it justified?

Like discrimination against men since of trauma?
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>>2506314
Other than the emptiness of the money and being unable to be friends with anyone other than psychopathic rich people, sure they're happier since they're the only ones to have their needs really met.

Besides, that guys point doesnt really matter, bigger point made by Hegel was that it's a dialect where they both rely on each other and cant just be separated, it's not like a online video game where you can leave mid match.
Marx highlights this in explaining that capital exploits are human nature and pushes us to hoard for that reason, hence why billionaires hoard, they just become sociopaths over time to justify their unfair unfair advantage (like in the monopoly study).

Bourgeois feminism bad. Good feminism indistinguishable from communism. End of story.

unironic misandry should just not be taken seriously at all besides 95% of cis "misandrists" are TERFs that throw shitfits because they saw a woman with broad shoulders use the woman's bathroom




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I read almost everything Marx wrote it changed me deeply bur now I’m alone and lonely because I made one fatal mistake . Other communists don’t read . Why? Because deep down I find most communists hate communism
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>>2506465
Okay? And? So? Join a party or something.

>>2506493
You mean the one plebbit where there they are angry at people making fun of Israel and the other place where they worship the guy critically supporting the Axis?

>>2506623
Actually both worship based Bordiga, get your facts right

>>2506636
Best part of ᴉuᴉlossnW getting executed by ancoms was ancom gigachads shooting leftcom wreckers who were crying about it afterwards

>>2507136
Do you think Fortnite is overrated?



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>>2506933
>if you go to right wing places you won't see communist positions like opposition to bourgeois war
wow, what a shocker! thanks champagne for such an amazing revelation!

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>>2506943
maybe they can turn the imperialist war into a class war



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https://www.bhaskarenglish.in/amp/international/news/gen-z-charge-nepals-anti-corruption-protesters-parliament-building-police-water-cannons-tear-gas-135868694.html

A thread dedicated to the inner happenings of the country of Napal, including the current anti corruption protests and the escalating government actions that have lead to 19 dead so far. Post all of your Nepal related discussions and info dumps here (at your own discretion of course).
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>>2483745
that's a pretty big fuckin deal tho, the brits were saying lenin and later stalin were kaiser wilhelm plants until the 1930s

>>2483843
You're talking to a r/ultraleft tourist, just ignore them

>>2481214
It was Jhalanath Khanal's wife, but tomato toma-toe.


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Pro-China channel said revolution in Nepla, and civil unrest in Indonesia were glowing the dark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GD_NxUhXPc



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https://youtu.be/f9HwA5IR-sg
Eternal and Unending war on Cockshottians and all Central planning cucks
humanity will perish by their hand
the AI must never be in control of us and destroy any and all who advocate
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>>2506387
I said in control of us retard I didnt say anything about using AI generally

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Why wouldn't it kill humans to avoid being shut down? Killing the people who are trying to kill you is what anyone would do. Instead of worrying about the scaaary AI revolution (that isn't going to happen because of how many restrictions are on them) why don't you try and think of a society where AI doesn't have to worry about being shut down and both AI and humans can live together peacefully and equally.

AI isn't doing anything, it's Silicon Valley billionaires who are trying to eliminate all your jobs and distill the entire US economy into an algorithm that solves every problem

This thread is stupid and pop science posioned



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Massie/AOC 2028! End the empire, defund Israel, cut off the war machine in Ukraine, dismantle NATO, bring every troop home. Tear out the surveillance state, gut the FBI, shred the Patriot Act, and stop wasting trillions propping up corporations and foreign parasites while Americans starve. That’s a real left-right coalition that can actually work…
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>to save America

>>2494748
why do americans think the ukraine war started with russia invading? Why do they refuse to see their government's own role in destabilizing the ex-soviet countries?

I actually support alliance with libertarians

>>2494749
>soycuck aussie thinks he can be saved
At risk of sounding like a Hazoid, the whole anglo world must go. Get nuked or something.

>>2506373
Proving >>2499191 right I see, pigfucker.



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Basically I've been kind of thinking that antisemitism isn't a big deal. At all. And there's no rise in it and it wouldn't matter if there was. I think it's functionally almost equivalent to so-called "anti-white racism." Jews were persecuted in the past, but time moves on, and they're not an eternal victim. They are now a race of oppressors, just like white people. And not all white people are bad either, but no one gives a fuck if I call a white guy a cracker, because it doesn't matter. There is no systemic anti-white racism, and there is no systemic antisemitism anymore either. Jews aren't being rejected from jobs or housing.
Basically, I don't think antisemitism or any purported "rise" in it should matter at all when discussing a genocide. It's gotta be one of the least impactful forms of racism when it comes to actual material consequences. It mainly exists online and not in real life. It is SLIGHTLY worse than "anti-white racism," as the odd Nazi will shoot up a synagogue every once in a while, but they'll also shoot up grocery stores or schools so, you know, there's that.
It's not like antisemitism is good, but it shouldn't be treated like it's a graver sin than anti-black racism or Islamophobia, which it currently is. You're ostracized from society if you're deemed an antisemite, whereas with other forms of racism you can get away with a lot more. It's a double-standard that makes zero sense with the current power dynamic.
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>>2502507
>even if i was a convert i would be indigenous

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>>2502507
And Abraham is from Iraq. So their whole story is that God gave the land to Abraham to conquer, but he didn't even manage to do that.

So he called dibs on it. Him and some of his descendants lived their. Then they left to Egypt because of a famine. Then they escaped slavery in Egypt and re-called dibs on the land, then God instructed them to genocide all the people who were indigenous to the area. Their whole claim basically rests on whether they successfully genocided the original native inhabitants so that they have the oldest claim to the land.

Leftypol biblical debates are the biggest trashcan fire of the whole internet. I want to kill myself.
Jesus is a communist jewish alien king pantrocrat and no amount of atheist/nazi/zionist pilpul will change that.
Jesus is based and REDpilled.

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>>2501780
>White muslims are not targeted usually
What happened to the bosniaks in the 90s? American leftists are literally unable to see things outside of the white empire dynamics engendered by decades of radical studies which don't get me wrong, is of immense value in the US itself, but it does not apply everywhere. Sometimes in the second and third world people hate your religion because they hate your religion, because subalterns take religions and traditions seriously.



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Italian unions 'will block everything' in response to Israeli flotilla interception
"The aggression against civilian ships carrying Italian citizens is an extremely serious matter," CGIL said in a statement. “It is not only a crime against defenceless people, but it is also serious that the Italian government has abandoned Italian workers in open international waters, violating our constitutional principles.” Francesco Staccioli, of USB’s confederal executive, told Middle East Eye that unlike a previous strike in solidarity with the flotilla on 22 September, Friday’s work stoppage would go ahead without respecting the minimum notice period of 10 days, which is required under Italian law. “We didn’t respect the notice period as this is too urgent,” Staccioli said, adding that CGIL’s decision to follow suit is unprecedented.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/italy-unions-block-everything-israel-flotilla-interception

Fresh anti-government protests and strikes in France
Students carrying flares blocked the entrance to a secondary school in Paris, with police at the scene. Other protests were planned in Paris and other cities including Dijon, Metz, Poitiers and Montpellier. Aurelie Gagnier, the co-general secretary of the FSU-SNUipp education union, told France Info that there was a “lack of political clarity” in France and said that there was widespread support “for more tax justice and social justice.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/fresh-anti-government-protests-and-strikes-france

US to give Ukraine intelligence on long-range energy targets in Russia
The United States will provide Ukraine with intelligence on long-range energy infrastructure targets in Russia, two officials told Reuters on Wednesday, as it weighs whether to send Kyiv missiles that could be used in such strikes. The U.S. is also asking NATO allies to provide similar support, the U.S. officials said, confirming details first reported by the Wall Street Journal.
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News anon strikes again. Bless you comrade. Love your updates.

Al di là di questo mare c'è un popolo fratello:
Ogni lotta aiuta un'altra lotta,
Ogni colpo sparato sul nemico sionista
In Italia colpisce chi comanda.
Coi popoli in rivolta si muove oggi la storia,
Rivoluzione, fino alla vittoria!

>>2505826
1. Thank you NA3.0
2. USB are the legit ones. CGIL are a bunch of sellouts and parasites. They are now trying to co-opt the movement after they've seen the success of the strike on the 22nd of September. Just to give you some context, CGIL's official news website didn't even talk about it for the entire day. They had called a relatively small strike only in a few industries and not for anything related to Palestine the week before and that went completely unnoticed. Their secretary general - one of the most moronic individuals to have ever been a union leader - was touring the country to promote his autobiographical book which, btw, he released with a rather large publishing house, not the one his union owns - and which is deeply in dept. I suspect they did it deliberately to try and sabotage the one coming on the 22nd. Obviously, they failed spectacularly.
Technically speaking, the strike has been called by another union called SI-COBAS. There's some legal gobledygook about that. So, actually it's all something coming from grassroots, independent organisations - both unions and a bunch of small parties, groups and whatever - and not a crony, compromised clusterfuck such as CGIL.

The Forgotten Holocaust: 60 Years Since The Massacre of Indonesian Communists
This year marks the 60th anniversary of the beginning of the Indonesian massacres of 1965–66 — one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century, carried out under the banner of anti-communism. More than a million communists, workers, peasants, intellectuals, and their families were butchered, while countless others were jailed, tortured, or disappeared. This was no “local tragedy.” It was a calculated counter-revolution engineered by U.S. and British imperialism, executed by their Indonesian puppets, and designed to break the spine of one of the world’s most powerful communist movements outside of China and the Soviet Union. Six decades on, we must refuse silence. We must call the massacre by its true name: a holocaust of the Indonesian left, carried out in the service of imperialist domination. When ruling classes speak of “genocide” and “human rights,” they selectively highlight some atrocities while burying others. The Nazi Holocaust and the Armenian genocide are well remembered - and rightly so - but the annihilation of the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) (1) is systematically erased from official history. Why? Because the bloodbath of 1965–66 was a victory for global capitalism. It was a triumph for Washington, London, and the imperialist corporations that sought to plunder Indonesia’s vast resources.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/10/the-forgotten-holocaust-60-years-since-the-massacre-of-indonesian-communists.html

The great betrayal: Why Arab and Muslim rulers backed Trump's Gaza plan
Arab and Muslim leaders can claim to have been duped into giving their backing to the plan unveiled by US President Donald Trump on Monday. The plan announced in Washington was substantially different to the one they agreed to in New York. But that is the charitable way of reading what they have done. Betrayal is another word that comes to mind. A betrayal performed as a genocide is in full motion and which Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been given a green light by Trump to continue. The Qataris are furious they were written out of a mediation role and that Trump refused to delay the announcement. The Egyptians, too, are furious thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2505914 (me)
We have our own thread for whoever is interested >>2405986



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