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Why the hell am I supposed to be nice towards Christians, Muslims and religious Jews, when they are not nice to me back and they think of me as an infidel? Anyways, all the religions I mentioned, have problems with pedophilia and misogyny. Why are we supposed to tolerate religions in this capitalistic society?
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>>2099502
Muslimshit do look like a hive mind in my view, a evil one

>>2099507
>morality
get back, honky cat.


>>2099493
>change my mind
no, i am not obligated to change how you think, change your own damn mind.
>How can I survive in this hostile towards me world?
idk, how are you not already dead? whatever your doing its clearly working, i'd suggest dealing with that pathetic persecution complex thoughever

>>2099493
By working toward socialism so those religions can no longer prey on the proletaiat's vulnerability.



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Why aren't women interested in Leftism anyway? Is there anything we can do to win them over? It seems like it shouldn't be that difficult but literally decades of Leftist politicians have tried and failed to get women on our side. What's the issue exactly?

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>>2099433
OK lolcow, back to AOC CNN and "the view" talks with you . 👞 💢🍑

>>2099433
sheer projection, rightoid.

They are more leftist than men, but extrem leftist is home of males vast majority, the more extremist and autistic the political view the more male dominate is

There was one schizo-post or a video by some guy that said that women were bourgious, maybe that's where the Disco Elysium meme came from? Does anyone have the link for this for a laugh?

>>2082639
why are leftoids like this



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Most right wingers fit into one of only two personality profiles:

1) The power-hungry, who will wield whatever weapons they find useful to disenfranchise and exploit as many people as possible, in an effort to claim and/or maintain their own power advantages.

Or…

2) Simpletons with intelligence levels too low to understand nuance or complexity in much of anything. They crave excessive simplicity because intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically, they are children who want to be protected and told what to do by people in group #1.

Those in group #1 vary quite a bit in intelligence and sophistication of cognitive ability, because they can either be very smart but utterly sociopathic, or they can be of average or below average intelligence but have other advantages that propel them into leadership positions (ie, "cult of personality" types like Donald Trump). The most dangerous individuals in this group exhibit both strong Dark Triad traits and high intelligence. Think historic fascist leaders who ruled with devastating brutality, as well as some of their closest advisors/allies.

As for people in group #2… TBH I've genuinely started wondering if there is some kind of yet-to-be-recognized brain development disorder that results in extraordinarily weak higher order cognition. Some individuals with irrational extreme right beliefs have actually experienced some form of brain damage (such as long-term substance abuse, TBI, or serious child abuse/neglect in the formative years), but that's not an explanation that fits everyone. I do wonder if some individuals naturally suffer from insufficient brain development in regions associated with empathy, reasoning and etc that enables them to hold highly contradictory beliefs, and no amount of education, counseling, or lived experience can change it because their brains are literally structurally incapable.
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Why LeftyPol is so obsessed with rightoids? It's some kind of repressed sexual urge?

>>2099327
>why are people against the status quo talking about people pro-status quo
Are you retarded or seeking attention to alleviate your boredom

>>2099327
its actually an expression of sexual urge!

>>2099196
>Liechtenstein of exemple of Ancap
lol


>All trade is voluntary

lol

>both workers and entrepreneurs get richer

Meanwhile poverty exploded in Argentina but it's okay because line go up for happy few.

>>2099196
>>2099344
>>both workers and entrepreneurs get richer
>Meanwhile poverty exploded in Argentina but it's okay because line go up for happy few.
>>2099158
>Poverty in the USSR
hmm, anap anon, if what you say is correct, how come socialism causes poverty in the ussr? but milei is not guilty of the same in argentina?



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Why are women more inclined to 'left wing' ideas than men?
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>>2099147
Its so funny how misandrists talking about men sounds exactly like racists talking about black people
Damn, its almost like experiencing actual hardship turns you into a rougher person

>>2061995
Natural selection is also random. As there are many strategies to survive, sometimes even opposites. And natural disaster also affect.

>>2044485
Because öeft-leaning politics is often associated with feminism, which is an ideology that primarily serves the needs of women while excluding men.

Is this board raided by /pol/yp?

>>2044491
just adding "anarcha-" but having the same fucking libshit ideology deep down doesnt change a thing
(charitably assuming anarchism isnt another libshit ideology)



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On November 1st, amid renovation, a canopy to Novi Sad's railway station collapsed and killed 15 people. There were mass protests demanding investigations and that people who lead the project are held responsible for the tragedy. These started out as civil protests, with mass litanies in honor of the victims blocking major cities like Belgrade, Novi Sad. At that point there was still a possibility to uphold class compromise, but the state arrogantly ignored the signs. The quickly protests spread among the universities.

Students were radicalized and with a clear understanding that the state was shipping them of as educated cheap labor power in the EU core or forcing them into wage-slavery to foreign firms - firms, which once were collective property, and which were privatized during the 2000s. They started blockading the universities. FDU (faculty of drama) was the first occupied and blocked university.

The blockades and occupations spread like wildfire. In some three weeks, it spread from faculties in Belgrade, to Novi Sad, to Niš, to every major regional city. Every univeristy in the state was occupied. Middle schools joined the blockades. Education workers anounced a strike. Farmers were blocking major highways in Western Serbia and are planned to join the students in Belgrade on December 22nd.

There were mass protests in Serbia developing in the last decade. It started with general anti-Vučić protests, developed into an ecological mass movement against exploitation of lithium by Rio Tinto, and now we have this. The student placed 5 demands, the last a clear economic and social demand.

1. Publication of documentation related to the reconstruction of the canopy in Novi Sad.
2. Dismissal of the indictments filed against the illegally detained students.
3. Filing criminal charges against participants in violence against students.
4. Determining the identity of the persons who participated in the violence and severely sanctioning them, regardless of whether they are employed in the private or state sector.
5. Increasing the budget for financing state faculties by 20%.

The state lied about fullfiling their demands.
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>>2088394
It's very clear that the imperialist order in Serbia is breaking apart and struggling to keep power. You had these massive civil protests developing over the last couple of years, but without any direction. Anti-Vučić, anti-violence (struggles against concepts, that's surely something that the liberal will coopt (and they did)), ecological struggles (at least concrete demands but without militant organizing it's just slowing the inevitable down, not solving the issue) and now this where you had the biggest blockades since 1996, where you had soviet-like organizing alive again, and they blew it because the progressive currents in Serbia cannot handle the size of these protests. They can't control the mass, but the mass is not politicized (and they avoid politization, which is good considering otherwise the fiercest imperialists would take lead) and their demands are demands to return the bourgeois state to order. Ridiculous! I saw syndicates and worker collectives contragulating them on organizing and blockading. It would've been crazy development had they reached out a hand to the syndicates. But the Serbian socialists are reorganizing and from what I've heard actually held the line in a couple of faculties but nothing would've changed the outcome. This was always a fizzle.

>>2087077
From what I've seen, the EU would only accept Serbia as a member if they were ruled by people like the opposition (the membership application process has been going on since 2009), and being an EU member would have brought benefits, even if it meant entering a dependent relationship because anything is better than being country that has been ravaged by privatization and war and being isolated at the same time. Meaning it wasn't Vucic's decision to seek BRICS membership and Chinese support, but they will still punish him for it.

>>2087324
The first problem is that a successful color revolution would most likely lead to SNS and others emerging even stronger insted of genuine anti-imperialists. They would make some left-wing reforms and adjustment to their foreign policy while threat posed by the opposition still lingers in the air, but nothing would fundamentally change because it's the same people and the same political machinery controlling Serbia.

What happens if the protests fail (like they usually do)? Now that is an issue. The government gets to have someone to point their fingers at as the destructive Western agents. The liberals will only stand for popular left-wing policies when it's opportune, most people will see through them and the government won't feel any pressure to discipline its capitalists.

The biggest problem is that it's as if all these US psyops are primarily designed to kill any possible anti-imperialist opposition before it even emerges by making them idealist and directionless and actually winning is only a secondary consideration. This makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Why does the US keep funding these oppositionists when they fail time and time again? It's entirely possible that behind closed doors the Serbian government are glad the US is ready to help them to run a spectacle of a democracy and Serbian capitalists are even more happy that Western destabilization efforts keep the government from disciplining them.

>>2088430
>Why does the US keep funding these oppositionists when they fail time and time again?
I still think Vucic is their man, despite the overtures to China (the ones to Russia these days are negligent). The only reason Tadic got removed from power and DS was shattered to a million factions, despite them being a hand tailored party by the west from the Milosevic era was that they did not want to coopearate (do as they're told) regarding Kosovo. At that point arount late 00s-early 10s Vucic was just an underdog in Serbian politics, SRS having fallen from grace after Seselj went to fuck around in the Hague, he was willing to be their yesman and so they took him on board. And if you looo at his track record, he brings them results. They've boiled the frog for even the most reactionary of the serbian population with kosovo, sold off whatever was left of state industry,almost all our weapon systems are made by NATO countries, made us even more of an IMF's bitch than we were during the 80's. Even though he is not ideal for them, the cartel he has created in Serbia is too entrenched to miss out on. He gives them results, and his meandering is a safer bet than bringing in a new face to do it for them. for now.

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Democratic opposition all around Eastern Europe the moment Trump gets into office:

Vučić is now treading a thin brazen anti-communist political line with regards to the protests. Even he sees the popular, mass character of the movement and we still have anons here thinking it's a western color revolution.
https://sns.org.rs/lat/novosti/vesti/vucic-moj-posao-je-da-srbija-ide-napred

>… komеntarišući plеnumе kojе su studеnti formirali na fakultеtima, rеkao jе [Vučić] da oni nisu ni boljšеvici, vеć mеnjšеvici.

>"To nisu ni boljšеvici vеć mеnjšеvici, postupaju tako da njih malo donеsе odluku, ali na silu sprovodе svе", rеkao jе prеdsеdnik Vučić.

<… commenting on the plenums which were organized by students in universities, Vučić said that they are not even bolsheviks, but mensheviks

<"Those are not bolsheviks buts mensheviks, a few of them makes a decision, but have to use force to implement it", said Predsednik Vučić.

In the studio clip he's even more deranged. "Do you have to make tell you whose doing all of this plenum business? I'll have to tell you…".



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I don’t care for what you think about the world’s population. Currently, human agricultural, mining, and construction practices have disproportionately done more to destroy the world’s ecosystems than sheer numbers.

The entirety of Western Europe and the Indian continent has been deforested. Much of North America remains a fully deforested farmland. Decades of illegal mining practices throughout Africa have destroyed hundreds of ecosystems and have caused mass migrations causing conflicts.

Worse, the looming threat of anti microbial resistance is going to put a pause on how people can live once the epidemics blow into full blown pandemics. Already, there’s a surging rise in mortalities in west Africa of sickle cell anemia over the inappropriate use of anti microbial drugs.

You get the idea. Humans aren’t living sustainably and our planet is dying because of it. I don’t want to hear any more Malthusian garbage. Simply shifting numbers will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to fix the damage that’s already being done or change the way people live.

Even if everyone died, more of the planet would see ecological omnicide over the passive accumulation of wastes and pollutants in our atmosphere.

The farms need to be turned into permacultures. Unused mines. Crackdowns need to be made against dumping and littering. The only way anyone is going to survive next century is through forced environmentalism. Unfortunately, I question if enough people value themselves and the planet enough to participate in mass action against the minority of aristocrats who’ve caused all this destruction.
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>>2098894
>we're going to deplete all the nonrenewable resources before setting up a proper replacement infrastructure and you can die mad about it

a lot of people will, in fact, die mad about it.

BILLIONS WILL DIE SOON is a perennial thread on leftypol since 2014

two more weeks broski

>>2099026
>BILLIONS WILL DIE SOON
within the century.

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>>2099028
More like right now and will continue to die throughout this century. Already, the German and Canadian governments are having an abnormally high number of people seeking food assistance over food insecurity. It’s not like the governments of those two countries can do anything. Too much land has been deforested for industrial agriculture, and the methods being used aren’t efficient enough to ensure that everyone is fed.
Just look at these satellite images.

as opposed to the last few years



 

Is scamming the bourgeoisie a viable, low-risk fundraising strategy?

Socialists parties have an inbuilt disadvantage as they advocate for war against the powerful class. Successful revolutionary agitation will result in petit and haute bourgeiousie supporting of anti-socialist forces, if not forming those forces themselves (see: squadrismo). Funding and supply is a real advantage, especially in an global economy.

Socialist parties are organized and as such have the means to engage in organized crime to level this playing field. We saw this with the Bolsheviks, we see this with the Maoists' drug trade, but such operations are high risk and may do more harm than good (see: Erivansky Square expropriation) which deters orgs from doing it.

My point is, why aren't you spinning up shitcoins, staging fake anti-communist or anti-union violence for donations, opening Patreons and GoFundMes and any other low-footprint scams we can think of?

inb4 'no u': because I'm not an adventurist and want to discuss this in theory before doing an oopsie

>fundraising
>electoral parties
lol

>>2099106
>>electoral parties
what are you talking about?



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In a world where nothing ever happens one country is brave enough to that do nothing and win.

Original threads:
https://archive.ph/S2XYA
https://archive.ph/Ytckv
leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html
bunekrchan.xyz archives:
https://archive.is/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/8925.html
https://archive.is/yrBUN
https://archive.is/pCecr
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>>2099062
Insanely based.

>>2099064
it's not a sword it's a kanabō
don't know if there's a chinese name for it

I love how nice everyone is being on rednote. Once that translation features added that app's going to the fucking moon.

>>2057072
the soviet union's approach to anti-imperialism was too vulgar and undialectical

they should have been supporting fascists and reactionaries all over the world such that the west collapses faster



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Ecuador confirms incinerated bodies belong to missing ‘Guayaquil Four’ boys
On Tuesday the attorney general’s office informed the families that the bodies belonged to the boys and later posted on social media: “The results of the forensic genetic tests confirm that the four bodies found in Taura correspond to the three teenagers and one child who went missing after a military operation on 8 December.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/31/ecuador-confirms-incinerated-bodies-belong-to-missing-guayaquil-four-boys

Mexico unveils new tariffs, popular e-tailers like Shein, Temu may be in crosshairs
Goods that enter Mexico via courier companies originating from countries that do not have an international treaty with Mexico will be subject to a duty of 19%, SAT said in a statement shared with reporters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-unveils-new-tariffs-popular-e-tailers-like-shein-temu-may-be-crosshairs-2024-12-31/

The DRC’s historic case against Apple over blood minerals in its supply chain
The Washington DC-based law firm was retained by DRC’s government late last year to investigate supply chains for illegally extracted and siphoned minerals from Congo, especially the 3T. Tin, tungsten, and tantalum are critical for electronics, automotive and aerospace industries.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/12/30/the-drcs-historic-case-against-apple-over-blood-minerals-in-its-supply-chain/

‘Left at the mercy of jihadists’: Niger’s junta fails to curb surge in violence
The junta’s inability to counter jihadist operations, coupled with its expulsion of western media, has obscured the plight of women, according to a senior Nigerien analyst in the capital, Niamey. The media bans and expulsions of journalists have allowed propaganda to flourish, claiming military success against the insurgePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Blackout in Puerto Rico after power grid collapses, leaving 1.3m in the dark
Luma Energy, the private energy company primarily supplying power to the island, reported as of 10.45am ET that only 13.5% of the US territory’s customers had power. In a statement, the company estimated it would take between 24 and 48 hours to restore power.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/31/puerto-rico-blackout-power-grid

Pentagon appeals court upholds plea deal for 9/11 orchestrator
Mohammed and two other alleged 9/11 plotters reached plea deals with the Pentagon in late July for their roles in the terrorist attack that killed almost 3,000 people. The three men had been facing the death penalty. Under the deal, they agreed to plead guilty to war crimes in exchange for life sentences, per the Times.
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/31/911-plea-deal-appeal-khalid-sheikh-mohammed

US releases one of longest-held Guantánamo Bay detainees to Tunisia
Ridah Bin Saleh al-Yazidi was transferred to his home country after being held without charge since the detention facility opened in January 2002. The 59-year-old appeared in one of the detention centre’s most iconic photographs, showing detainees kneeling in the open-air compound of Camp X-Ray.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/31/guantanamo-bay-detainee-released-tunisia

The housing market is heading into 2025 with a worrying supply trend
More than half of those homes (54.5%), however, had sat on the market for at least 60 days without going under a contract of sale. That is the highest share for any November since 2019 and is up nearly 50% from the year before, according to the report.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/31/housing-market-supply-stale.html
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Seeking a Fren for the End of the World: Episode 1 - This is Really Just the Beginning( Chapo Trap House)
In a new series by Felix, Josh (@ettingermentum), and Spencer, we ask: how did the Republican Party, once the dominant force in American culture for almost a generation, become a group of bowtied cosplayers and rapist streamers yelling about Litterboxes? We trace this development back to the empires built by two men—Paul Weyrich and James Dobson—as well as the failures of one Pat Buchanan. This episode draws from Dan Gilgoff’s The Jesus Machine and David Grann’s “Robespierre Of The Right.” For a full list of sources, check our works cited doc here: www.chapotraphouse.com/seeking
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/seeking-a-fren-for-the-end-of-the-world-episode-1-this-is-really-just-the-beginning

In 2025, we must confront a dystopian right fighting for unchecked corporate power
AS WE enter 2025, the exhaustion of liberal centrism across the West is clearer than ever. The return of Donald Trump to the White House. The recent collapse of the governments of France and Germany. Britain’s own experience — a Labour government resting on fewer votes than it won in opposition, beset by corruption scandals and political pratfalls in its first few months, already trailing the recently wiped out Tories in the polls. Yeats’s line “things fall apart, the centre cannot hold” seems to summarise today’s politics. His poem The Second Coming disorients us as it is not salvation, but something nightmarish approaching as the world we know crumbles: “what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/2025-we-must-confront-dystopian-right-fighting-unchecked-corporate-power

How Ukraine’s Far Right Pushed Its Myths About World War II An interview with Marta Havryshko
During World War II, Ukraine became the epicenter of the most brutal fighting, and also the most extreme murder of Jewish and Slavic populations. Many Ukrainian nationalists sympathized witPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



 

Hey, I wrote an article concerning veganism into local socialist newspaper, so I though I might as well post it here so hopefully at least someone will read it. Any critique is welcomed.

Here is short ChatGPT summarisation of articles contend:

Veganism as a Political Movement:
>Veganism shares common goals with communism, opposing exploitation and systemic inequality.
>The movement critiques capitalism’s role in sustaining animal and human exploitation.

Criticism of Veganism as Lifestylism:
>Critics argue veganism focuses on individual choices without addressing systemic exploitation, privileging affluent groups.
>Rebuttal:
<Vegan diets are globally cheaper, despite subsidies favoring animal agriculture.
<Vegan activism goes beyond dietary choices, engaging in collective action to address systemic issues like food deserts, environmental degradation, and worker exploitation.
<Individual actions complement systemic advocacy by challenging societal norms and inspiring broader change.

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>>2093850
>So I guess animals being molested and forced to kive in shit only bothers you because of human workers being forced to experience it by proxy?
No, I care about animal conditions too. But I'm making the point that the problem is so bad, and the arguments against factory farming so numerous, that even if you ignore that part there are still sufficient arguments against it. This is an easy way to refute posters who are dead-set on a "humans above animals" hierarchy or outright devalue the suffering of animals entirely. Because you can even assume those two things are true and still argue soundly against factory farming, so it makes the argument stronger by removing its dependency on animal suffering.

>>2095722
>This is an easy way to refute posters who are dead-set on a "humans above animals" hierarchy
Logically this makes sense, but people who are dead set on humans above animals hierarchy are also dead set on humans above other humans. Existence of this underclass of economically and psychologically brutalized workers is a feature, not a bug.

>>2090187
>>Veganism shares common goals with communism, opposing exploitation and systemic inequality.
Not a goal of communism. Communism is the elimination of the bourgoiesie class by the proletarian class.

Shit thread, no matter how hard you try, all your arguments boil down to paternalistic appeals to morality. Veganism is not the logical extention of communism or Marxism because Marxism and communism is not a morality based social movement. Claiming it is anyway is anti Marxist because Marxism is extremely explicit in rejecting moral notions as the basis for its own movement. Stop trying to make conflating Marxism and veganism happen, it's not gonna happen.

>>2096624
>Veganism shares common goals with communism
As stated in OP, the summarization was written by ChatGPT, it the gets the spirit across, but no, I didnt write it shares common goals with communism, but I did highlight sharing common enemies. And the "communism isnt moral" meme is already addressed in both the article and in posts in this thread.

>>2098852
>Me being too fucking lazy to correctly summarise *my own* article is your problem and if you criticise me based on the blatant misinformation I posted you are in the wrong
Kill yourself op you will save more animals that way.



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