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once the answer is 'yes' to every question listed can you say that you actually have a communist party
i've come up with this checklist for objective conditions to exist based on studying the russian revolution. i'm correct. i'll also give my thoughts on the subjective factors of revolution but for that you can also read chernyshevsky and dzerzhinskiy's diary from prison.

1. Is there a group of intelligensia that raised the banner of Marxism in a given country?
2. Did it grow on its own or in opposition to some already existing unscientific popular anticapitalist movement?
3. Is a popular political programme written?
4. Have Marxist circles of intelligents multiplied, spread, expanded, all while upholding the programme?
5. Have the Marxist circles united around party principles?
6. Is party-to-be ready to pass from circle propaganda to mass agitation?
7. Is there mass workers movement already existing? Are workers already struggling and organizing on their own? That is, is consciousness ripe to pass from trade-unionism to party-building? Is it below trade-union consiousness?
8. Has the would-be party educated enough workers politically in their struggle? Has it explained and connected the mass movement with communist political demands?
9. Has the would-be party built enough connections among the working class movement? Enough working class organizations? Built trust among the workers by working amongst them? Ready to respond to every injustice the workers may face?
10. Does the would-be party give impetus elswhere across the country to establish similar working class organizations? Are groundworks laid for an all-country organization that can start building the communist party and go against the bourgeois state?

you'll notice that every single question leaves no room for interpertation. they all follow the SMART mnemonic. specific - measurable - achieavable - relevant - time-oriented
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'yes' to every question listed
https://e621.net

>>2436524
pretty sure the ICP is a "no" on question 8

>>2441851
>pretty sure the ICP is a "no" on question 8
They work with https://class-struggle-action.net/

>intelligensia
Not a real thing and whenever people give examples it's always thinktank people.

>>2441863
there is a separation between mental and physical work in capitalism. those who engange in mental work are the intelligensia, those engaging in particular mental work for a given class are the class intelligensia. just because you don't think it's not real, it doesn't mean it's not real lol



 

Know thy enemy. Know how the glow operates, how it plans, how it thinks, how it manipulates.

A thread dedicated to posting declassified CIA documents, preferably of their anti-communist activities and their involvment in imperialist policies.

Let's start with the CIA's recommended actions to be taken after Khruschev's famous anti-Stalin """secret speech""" at the 20th congress. It's an interesting document because it showcases that
>yes, the CIA (and burger policy makers) do actually believe their own propaganda, even when they are completely conscious of the fact that they just "made it up, lol". It's a truly scizophrenic institution.
>yes, they prefer to control "both sides" of any topic, instead of just lamely chosing the obvious side to take
>yes, the M-Ls are always right:
<Leon Trotsky in his book The Revolution Betrayed, alleged that the rise of Joseph Stalin to power was a Soviet Thermidor for 'not restoring capitalism', yet still being a 'counterrevolutionary regression' within the regime of the USSR, as Thermidor did not restore a monarchy, etc. Marxist-Leninists and Stalinists have periodically argued that Nikita Khruschev's rise to power and the implementation of De-Stalinization as the Soviet Union’s Thermidor. A CIA document considered Khruschev's "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences" may have 'marked the "Thermidor" of the Russian Revolution'.
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*BUMP*ing an important topic.

>>2368026
>they want people to know that so they can sperg out about how powerful they are
You took that claim from the 9/11 episode of South Park, didn’t you?

bumping fun thread :)



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…………………………….

This is an apt descriptor of the Ukraine war.

Israel is on both sides.

Everywhere they go there is a problem.

>>2441825
Source?

>>2441825
I think it's the fucking Azerbaijan

>>2441827
Looks like a wikipedia article but not sure which.

>>2441859
I can't find it either



 

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China snaps up Russian oil as Indian demand drops following Trump tariffs


Chinese refineries have placed new orders for Russian crude that will be shipped from ports that typically supply India, as demand from the South Asian country for Moscow’s crude slips following US President Trump’s tariffs.

At least 15 cargoes of Russian oil have been secured by Chinese refineries for October and November delivery, analysts said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/20/business/china-secures-russian-oil-orders-intl-hnk


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>>2441664
>SJWs
better to be a warrior for social justice than a keyboard jockey for reactionaries

>>2441563
>muh hope and progress
She does realize the average trumptard thinks society peaked centuries ago and "progress" is a Jewish conspiracy to turn children trans or something, right?



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>“‘Paedophilia’ simply means sexual desire towards children. To equate this with child murder and rape is grotesque and partakes of the same reactionary bourgeois bigotry which declares all sex other than heterosexual monogamy to be ‘deviant’. We oppose the persecution of those who engage in consensual intergenerational sex, we oppose the reactionary ‘age of consent’ laws and we have a long record of defending against persecution organisations such as the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and the British Paedophile Information Exchange, whose leaders were jailed in 1984 for advocating the right of youth under the ‘age of consent’ to have sex with adults.”

>— Workers Hammer no 174, Autumn 2000


https://www.icl-fi.org/english/wh/194/witchhunt.html
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>lets brand a movement of thousands based on the views of a micro-split sect of dozens

>>2441490
>trots
>communists
i assumed they were just newspaper salesmen

>>2441462
>“‘Paedophilia’ simply means sexual desire towards children. To equate this with child murder and rape is grotesque

I mean…they're kind of correct? Pedophilia isn't the same as child murder and rape. If you think they're equivalent, you're just a retard thinking neurotically.

>>2441462
according to most americans 18 year old adults date 17 year old children and should be shot for being dangerous violent sex offenders and human scum btw

>>2441462
trotskyism is a huge ick, I prefer not to label myself anything personally



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Citizens of nations cannot affect the laws in nations. Even if they have a cause and bond together and even if there is an international cause with a larger presence overseas.
Voting doesn't work, if it worked they would make it illegal. You only vote for parties which run with campaign promises and may not even follow up on them and even if they do - the results are always lackluster.
Rebelling and fighting doesn't work because it is impossible to organize it, the rebellion will be crushed and you're wagering your life.
Citizens cannot do anything meaningful. The only "change from within" comes if the motif to profit allows it to occur. So summed up
-We cannot do anything
-If we do anything to oppose the law it poses a life risk
-Protests don't work, peaceful protests are temporary and achieve nothing

So what is the solution?
There is no solution, most people are pretty much stuck in their life and can only complain or suffer the problems caused by the nation. If you want something, then you're simply not getting it.
As a citizen you will also be targeted by other citizens in real life and online for opposing the status quo, even by others who claim to oppose the status quo over preferences - wants, needs and attempts to exchange information. As a citizen your information and experienced values less than the material pushed out by the nation and its many resources.

Lets look at Lenin - why did he manage to succeed?
Lenin didn't even think the revolution would happen in his lifetime, he was out of his prime, suffered and finally succumbed to death before even getting to enjoy what he fought to create. Later it was all gone and his followers had split.
Why did he manage to initially succeed though? Because he had nothing to lose, whereas now everyone has something to lose with the majority of people being tangled up in the inter web - inter net.
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>>2441362
>tfw drugs will never be legalized

>>2437298
>How can we become propertyless? We can't. Our lives depend on it.
The idea is someone that has the minimum personal property to survive is a prole: vehicles, phones, a drawing tablet (can't afford paper and ink), etc… and the only exception marx made for proles having private property was having kids.

>>2441372
Inherit a house but just give it away to become a true prole by 18th century standards? Never happening.

>>2441374
No one will purposefully go into poverty unless they are retarded, and if they're retarded enough to do it they will not accomplish anything, much like the majority of lumpen-hobo-bum-beggar population which only want handouts and alcohol.

>>2441374
Engels owned a house, Lenin had a house.



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Ok anons, should I join Union del Barrio? They are a Chicano and ML organization that is in my area, doesn't seem all that revisionist too, I wanna join since I am literally Mexican and I wanna start organizing my community since undocumented workers alresdy have some sense of class consciousness too. They've been on Democracy Now ans mainstream publications now, they were OGs in the LA Riots before shitlibs began to join… What do you guys think?

>>2440791
The CIA is the only vanguard.



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the largest fascists groups comprised of nationalist veterans and usually lead by pro-war political elements in ww1 i even remember some nazis claiming that fighting in war was akin to some kind of transcendental meditation and that the pointlessness of world war 1 was actually some kind of revolution so how much did the war play a part in creating fascism ?
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>>2437699
ur mum

you know soldiers aren't the only people with PTSD, and a lot of people with PTSD don't handle their problems by trying to commit genocide and start world wars

>>2437560
>However it seems a lot more likely that the experience of mass military mobilization played a large role in the specific form European fascism took during this period, i.e. as a populist mass movement with the active participation of the middle classes.
Kind of random on the soldier thing, you know in the U.S. there's this band Five Finger Death Punch. It sounds silly to mention this, but they're huge in the military and among veterans. The music is like a poppier Slipknot but the message is like "aaargh I'm traumatized and coping and have been betrayed and I wanna die" and there's often themes of the military lying to soldiers and dicking them over. But the fascinating thing is how closely embedded they are within the U.S. military itself – they perform a lot at USO shows. They're firmly anti-communist (one of their early albums is called "American Capitalist"). Then the conclusion to all of this nihilism can be to double down in cathartic violence and DEATH. This kind of stuff captures the spirit of Johnny Rico at the end of Starship Troopers shouting "come on you apes, you wanna live forever?"

Fascism is kind of like an active nihilism. There's no positive vision but you can revel in power, myths, and destruction. This theme comes up a lot in writings about it in the 1950s.


>>2436251
>remember some nazis claiming that fighting in war was akin to some kind of transcendental meditation
Ernst Junger was mentioned earlier but I think he expressed this attraction well.

<"The modern battlefield is like a huge, sleeping machine with innumerable eyes and ears and arms, lying hidden and inactive, ambushed for the one moment on which all depends. Then from some hole in the ground a single red light ascends in fiery orelude. A thousand guns roar out on the instant, and at a touch, driven by innumerable levers, the work of annihilation goes pounding on its way. Orders fly like sparks and flashes over a close network, spurring on to heightened destruction in front and bringing up from behind a steady stream of fresh men and fresh materials to fling into the flames. Every one feels that he is caught in a vortex which draws him on and on and thrusts him with unrelenting precision over the brink of death.”


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<“The horrible was undoubtedly a part of that irresistible attraction that drew us into the war. A long period of law and order, such as our generation had behind it, produces a real craving for the abnormal, a craving that literature stimulates. Among other questions that occupied us was this ; what does it look like when there are dead lying about ? And we never for a moment dreamt that in this war the dead would be left month after month to the mercy of wind and weather, as once the bodies on the gallows were.”


[…]

>“I looked left and right. The moment before the engagement was an unforgettable picture. In shell craters against the enemy line, which was still being forked over and over by the fire-storm, lay the battalions of attackers, clumped together by company. At the sight of the dammed-up masses of men, the breakthrough appeared certain to me. But did we have the strength and the stamina to splinter also the enemy reserves and rend them apart? I was confident. The decisive battle, the last charge, was here. Here the fates of nations would be decided, what was at stake was the future of the world. I sensed the weight of the hour, and I think everyone felt the individual in them dissolve, and fear depart.”


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How exactly should we react when a cultural icon (or person with a decent amount of cultural significance) is revealed to be a Zionist?

I know there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, but seeing cultural figures be openly pro-Zionism especially when the Zionist entity is engaged in an overt genocide and mass-starvation is honestly disgusting. I was told that the main purpose of BDS isn’t to “crash” the Zionist entity’s economy but rather to expose how engulfed modern culture is in Zionism, like when you realize boycotting is near impossible because entire industries have ties to the Zionist entity such as the music and film industries.

Soft power is a lot more powerful than we realize and even using a term like “Israeli salad” or working with a Zionist settler normalizes Zionist colonialism and genocide. What must we do to end this? And how should we treat notable figures who are pro-Zionist given that they normalize Zionism and manufacture consent for genocide at all times?
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>enjoy media from someone
>they turn out to be a zionist
>divert my attention from their stuff to the many other things I enjoy, signal boost similar media to displace it.
Anything beyond that is parasocial.

>>2439734
Referring to “Israel” as a real place is Zionism.

>>2440412
Okay, and?

>>2440412
Define "Zionism".

Better this time, you picked an artist I've listened to once, for slightly over 30 seconds
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I find it funny how CUCKshott says le gay males are all bourgeois because they don't have children while not applying the same logic to lesbians because he jerks off to lesbian porn
What a fucking hack, a typical homophobic boomer(Rule 14c - To ensure a basic level of quality, topics or posts will not be tolerated when contributions are not conductive to well-intentioned discussion.)
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>>2440297
Did op get banned? Op, are you banned?

>>2441036

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350573206_Class_Demography_and_Gay_Politics_in_the_West

I've briefly read his text about 'gay politics' and all his sources (which exclaim that the avg. gay male receives 12% more money than straight one in the UK & gay males are less likely to raise children ) denotes to his final exclaim that the gay male spend lesser portions of his money to raise children. ( and this is le bad )

Before this exclaim, he uses a mathematical formula ( which confused me a little tbh ) for the rate of profit, which is
rate of profit = total profit / capital stock

Then he describes total profit P = (1-w) * N , where N is the working population and (1-w) is the fraction of profit made per working person ( 1 - his wage share )

He also uses more formulas like that but to be honest, it made me a little confused. His formula for the growth of the capital stock does not include population P , so at the end he says that population increase will increase the profit rate.

So , he claims that if the growth of the capital stock exceeds the rate of growth in total profit, the profit rates will decrease in a capitalist market economy. Resulting lesser investments, lesser employment etc. with using Japanese stagnation and crisis (in 2008s as i recall) as an example.

Idk if it's really a critique of how gays raise less children and use less money for children or the market economy in general, but he finishes his text with basically saying " we should increase our population if we want a steady rate of growth in profit, and when gays were opressed the population growth rate was higher cuz they would marry women"

>>2441145 (me)
>His formula for the growth of the capital stock does not include population P

I've meant population N , sry.

>>2441145
Did Cockshott explain why we should support growing the rate of profit? If anything those numbers say we should promote homosexuality.

>>2442968
>back in the pile!



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