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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Heil Platner Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2533428
If the US is in a civil war it’s because all the other countries you listed have also fallen

>>2532954
you see, the only reason we have the incredibly means tested, constantly cut and more and more inaccessible social safety net is solely due to imperialism! If you want to make things better here, you must support imperialism!

>>2533395
Ben Norton goes to great lengths to stress alarmism and doomsday predictions as being wrong. Given his frequent contact with Hudson I'd imagine he thinks the same way

>>2532885
Lately, all of your posts are bad, my man.

t. sad Ginjeet



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Best USA president in its history?

My pick is Calvin Coolidge, since the best thing we can hope for in a capitalist / imperial leader is a complete hands off isolationist (and military defunding) approach. So what if he was a libertarian wet dream
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>>2457903
No such thing as a good US president

Trump (second term)

Andrew Johnson was the goat american. He represents American finely. An absolute retard

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I think we all know the answer to this question.

>>2459908
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>>2459984

That "historian" is a right winged libertarian



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>b-b-but newspapers arent praxis you fucking (((trot)))!
Consider the following, dear reader.
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All forms of media can be praxis. But only if have anything worthwhile to say.

Honestly the idea that spreading communist ideas via paper is useless is weird. That idea rests on assuming that everyone in your country either already knows communist theory and disagrees with it. It also assumes everyone without exception has no curiosity and refuses to read or learn anything about communism.

>1969
Nobody reads newspapers anymore.

>>2532891
Ok make shitty tiktok videos about USA warcrimes instead.


>unsuccessful fragging attempts
unsuccessful



 

David Cleary, solider F, has been found not guilty for his role in the bloody Sunday massacre, where 14 civilians were killed while they peacefully protested for their rights in 1972, this massacre essentially kickstarted the troubles.



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How do we understand the phenomenon of immigrants and non-white individuals becoming rabidly far-right, white nationalists and/or anti-immigration?

I've recently been reminded of this due to the Czech republic having a far-right party (Freedom and Direct Democracy Party) who wants to expel all migrants and "protect Czechia from Islamization" that is headed by a Japanese-Czech mutt who was born in Japan and lived there until he was 10.
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>>2508849
>You shoud've mentioned class consciousness instead of calling migrants petit bourgeois when many are cleaners, construction workers, working on fields and etcetera…
Specifically on construction (and by extension other manual trades relating to house building/maintenance) is that a lot of that work has been petit-bourgoified. Construction unions used to be as powerful as anything but outside of Australia they really aren't much anymore.

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People develop a petit bourg consciousness in spite of mostly being proletarianized. Reason is simple.
If you have the material condition of being immiserated then this is a prerequisite for developing a revolutionary consciousness. However, its also a prerequisite for falling for dreams of upward mobility a la "The Pursuit of Happiness" (2006).

Since a lot of these migrant workers have little education they're easy prey for vulgar propaganda meant to specifically appeal to people in those conditions and distract them (or even turn them hostile to) ideas that are more coherent to history and the way capitalism functions. Again, the combination of "very poor education" + "anti-communist brainwashing" makes them easy prey for things that obviously do not work like "just work harder, save money and become your own boss!".
As for why this makes them self hating the answer is it doesn't: they consider themselves "the good ones that work hard to pull themselves by the bootstraps" and the other migrants as freeloader leechers.
I'm talking in part by experience as a latino (that has never left south america btw) that has seen a nuclear shitload of right wing sentiment in actual proles. It makes no sense but once you realize how easy people can be spooked if they're kept as uneducated as possible then it all makes sense.

Reminds me of the Ethiopian immigrants in DC. They tend to be extremely right-wing, anti-communist, Islamophobic, and pro-Zionist, yet they’re very subtle about it. Plus, Ethiopian Orthodoxy has all sorts of weird occult stuff in their religion that always translates to crypto-fascism. It reminds me of Mormonism just for Black people. DC would be better off revoking their visas and sending these people back.

>>2508842
>assume that the US is doing something right that other nations are not doing it

What crazy thinking!

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>>2508739
>How do we understand the phenomenon of immigrants and non-white individuals becoming rabidly far-right, white nationalists and/or anti-immigration?
First pic related.
The bullied want someone weaker to bully and are willing to praise their own bullies in the process, if they believe that will provide some felling of belonging. Pretty much the same process through which fascism establishes itself.
You might have noticed, specially if you lurk in places like 4chan's /pol/, how much some people from impoverished corners of the world try hard, often too hard, to blend in with the place's local chud population. Filipinos, Pakistanis, Indians, some Latin Americans, they will try desperately to join the bullying side when the joke is on someone else. As an example, guys from Southeast Asia seem to rejoice when the speech is anti-black. They will be bullied themselves in the process but suck it up and act apologetic just so they can, at least once, feel they are not at the bottom of the pyramid.
To give other examples, people from the Indian Subcontinent desperate to be seen as more white and civilized by bringing up some 5 millennia old Aryan presence, Latin Americans bringing up some German great-great-great-great German grandfather nobody asked about, the odd Southeastern Asian dude trying to convince others (or actually believing, who knows) that the strict, disciplined and smart Asian stereotype applies to him while ignoring the racist jokes thrown at him to remind that the Asian stereotype Yankees talk about do not include the Philippines, Thailand or Cambodia.
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A lot of you seem to have highly authoritarian thinking. It's always universal top-down solutions, it's always all-or-nothing, you're either with us or against us, there can only be one way to live, one universal dogma, one kind of society, one shared destiny for everyone, lead follow or get out of the way. You may have learned how to use leftist terminology and quote the words of a few famous leftist figures but you still think like your square conservative parents.
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>you all have authoritarian thinking
we do have authoritarian thinking,

we should all be in charge
in charge of the means of production and should be a dictatorship of the proletariat

>>2532641
What's the point of getting involved in politics if you're not authoritarian?

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>>2532747
Because muh don’t tread on me man, we have too be democratic and le free

>>2532747
LARP, moralizing, virtue signalling, a lot of reasons. But in the end, the toppling of a current order is merely a vacuum that will be filled by a new order, and to be a libcuck is to cede what that new order should be.

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>>2532641
>It's always universal top-down solutions, it's always all-or-nothing, you're either with us or against us, there can only be one way to live, one universal dogma, one kind of society, one shared destiny for everyone, lead follow or get out of the way.
Yes.



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Why wasn’t there any type of De-Maoization?
When Nikita Khrushchev took office after Stalin he went on a campaign of de-Stalinization where statues of Stalin were torn down and streets and cities named after him were renamed. Why didn’t Deng Xiaoping do the same with Mao Zedong? I’m not saying that Deng should have or shouldn’t have but I’m just wondering why. Because Mao is still celebrating in China and seen as a great figure who only made a few mistakes.
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>>2531436
Tbh Ghorby did the same thing that ideologues accuse Deng of doing, the difference is that Deng’s plan was actually Marxist and not socdem butt licker

>>2531318

Do you have any non-CIA bitch source to site for that ?

>>2531366
Pakistan won

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>>2530049
There was a de-Hua Guofeng-ization. Mao's successor had his own cult of personality for 2 years and it got completely dismantled to the point that his death in 2008 was barely noticed.

>>2531366
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia are literal CIA propaganda outlets. Consider shooting yourself.



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Both /pol/ and /leftypol/ are the same exact fucking thing, same bullshit, both of you people are clearly manifestations of yaldabaothic energies and it’s clear that neither of you really give a shit about anyone
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>>2529233
>What was your definition of reality?
>a better question would be what is knowledge. maybe read the thread before posting
Why don't you define them?
>no they dont. this is what i mean by missing the point. ive already said just today:
You quoted half a dozen posts where you said nothing.

>>2529249
>Why don't you define them?
read the thread
>You quoted half a dozen posts where you said nothing.
If you reject dialectical materialism just say so instead of restating things that dont address it.

Fuck off tumblrite

>muh eschaton

>>2490791
wanting a father figure is not the same as unconsciously producing material policies that adhere to a need of a father

>>2491120
this is a schizo post - I did not say that marx invented socialism nor implied that marxism is the only socialism out there - what socialism IS however - is a self consciousness about the world - when you are self conscious about the world, then you cannot succumb to the opiate of Gnosticism

go suck my dick bitch



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Graham "Cracker" Platner Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2532092
You already have the retard position pigeonhole

>>2531982
>>2531998
Cuomo asked Mamdani twice why he won't support BDS against Uganda for a Ugandan politician being a homophobe.

>>2532076
Yep, Jason Blaha here is definitely the strongest Bolshevik soldier. He's ready to die for the revolution (voting for the DNC)

>>2531830
bro praised azov battalion in 2019 but supposedly didn't know what a totenkopf was before getting it permanently inked in his chest. CrItIcAl sUpPorT

>>2531668
>>2531674
I doubt Thiel himself made the decision to use the tattoo, but he probably allowed or offered the opp research Palatir services.



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There is no actual material reason for rent to be more than $250. There is also no material reason for full price housing that fits 2 people to be more than $16-20k. Zoning laws, inefficient power delivery systems, and developer/landlord profit seeking aren't 'counterarguments', they are what enable the ridiculous prices.

A post-and-Beam frame using a double wall infill system takes 5 days to build, and yet any kind of "small home" of this kind or similar is disallowed in most of most American counties which only permit them as ADUs.

Let's dig into arguments by the housing cartel and debunk them:

Land cost: No one actually ethically owns exclusive rights to land lmao, it's just threats of violence on a natural commodity like water.

Septic cost: It's called "composting". For legal composting in USA you must apply, meet multiple unecessary criteria, and then use an NSF-Certified unit that runs into the thousands. The crucial point here is that the NSF-certification is a permission slip, not the actual cost of the materials, which are basically negligible.

Greywater: A composting toilet is a millennia old solution, and we know greywater wasn't historically sewage and is perfectly fine as water for plants and soil. The modern solution costs a few hundred bucks and is called a "mulch basin" or a "branched drain system".

Labor and skill: Often quoted as "hundreds of man hours". How much do single individuals work to achieve the "American Dream" of actually owning their home instead of pretending through purposefully patronizingly, misleading laws that allows an illusion of semi-ownership while the bank actually gives permission to reside? Usually takes their whole lives if they can even manage to do it, most can't. Tens of thousands of hours of work in a lifetime without actually achieving the kind of freedom built into the American Dream. This mortgage model is clearly inferior to reserving time in people's lives for dedicated house building. It's been estimated that without data centers, our GDP growth would be less than 0.1%. Therefore most of our economy isn't even contributing to growth, so instead of pretending to grow our economy we invest some time in teaching youngins how to build a home?

Housing structure costs. Local trees can be used to mill a simple post-and-beam frame. A natural byproduct of the milling is sawdust or wood chips. Sawdust or wood chips with borax is just as thermally effiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2530844
>The majority of the world's population is concentrated on relatively scarce land, since for simple reasons of geography, resources, and economies of scale (material conditions), this encourages a model of concentrated urbanization.

I think it's more to do with imperialism and the fact that all of the land in the world is "owned" by either some wealthy private lord or by a sovereign government and if you try to go build a home for yourself somewhere in the wilderness people with guns will come and tear it down and kick your ass out. The world has plenty of habitable empty land that's never going to be used for anything; it just doesn't belong to you, so you can't use it.

People don't really need much to survive. Humans have lived off the land in the most extreme inhospitable climates with nothing but Stone Age technology for a zillion years and with modern technology it's orders of magnitude easier. Just look at Slab City, a permanent squatter community of junkies and ex-hippies and libertarian tinfoilheads living in RVs and makeshift houses in an inhospitable desert wasteland, travelling to nearby towns to buy water and whatever else they need. If a permanent settlement as unsustainable as that can somehow sustain itself for all these years, then obviously it's not the inhospitality of nature that prevents people from dropping out of industrial society and forming intentional communities, it's just the law.

To solidify their power, the ruling class must keep people confined to cities and make it illegal/impossible for them to live off of the unused land. The land is owned and guarded against trespassers and squatters not because it is needed for some other purpose, but simply to prevent anyone else from using it. Working and living off of a piece of land gives people power and agency, they will bond with the land and build a personal relationship with the land and they might even fight to defend that land from anyone who might try to take it from them.

>It ain't our'n. It got to have jimson weeds.


>Now and then a man tried; crept on the land and cleared a piece, trying like a thief to steal a little richness from the earth. Secret gardens hidden in the weeds. A package of carrot seeds and a few turnips. Planted potato skins, crept out in the evening secretly to hoe in the stolen earth.


>Leave the weeds around the edge - then nobody can see what we're a-doin'. Leave some weeds, big tall ones, in the middle.


>Secret gardening in the evenings, and water carried in a rusty can.


>And then one day a deputy sheriff: Well, what you think you're doin'?


>I ain't doin' no harm.


>I had my eye on you. This ain't your land. You're trespassing.

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I hate real estate agents so much. They share class interest with landlords because they're the only people who get paid more in direct correlation with housing prices. Even the "buyers agent" has the perverse incentive against the buyer (their alleged client) to keep prices as high as possible instead of negotiating aggressively down.

Here in Montreal, about 25% of our city politicians are landlords. I shit you not.

Interestingly this phenomenon is worse in the developed world. In poorer countries, real state agencies are never used by the average person to rent apartment/house. People contact the owner directly and usually the deposit is only one month rent. Less economic development means real state agencies have less control over housing.

The biggest scam is the “move-in-price”, which is aleatory and ever increasing.



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