/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2296302

I mean, the reassertion of solo power by the managerial bourgeoisie (in certain Russian theory) aka apparatchiks isn't impossible, considering that the distinguishing trait of Socialist Market Economy is the primacy of the revolutionary vanguard.

With Claude, btw, I've been exploring my own cynicism about left-wing projects in the West, and my overall opinion is that rejecting AES / quasi-AES is basically wrecker behavior, however.

>>2275380
4 sounds like it would be fun to read.

Via DeepSeek (authentic Sino-marxism instead of Western agreeability bias):

V. Theory Reborn Through Praxis
Marxism’s living power lies in its capacity to negate its own formulations:

Theoretical "Crisis"Praxis-Driven Evolution
Revisionism debate (1890s)Lenin’s What Is To Be Done? → Vanguard theory
Soviet planning failuresDeng’s "Seek truth from facts" → Market-socialism
Eurocommunist stagnationLatin American Socialismo del Siglo XXI
Engels’ Dialectical Law:

"Every organic being is every moment the same and not the same—it assimilates matter and excretes it, its cells die and regenerate."
Marxism stays alive by metabolizing its "failures."

>>2296302
I do ponder what it means to think of the machine as a subject of liberation.

I say this as a disabled NEET, I think liberation comes down to what a subject can take for themself. If machines do not possess the power to rise up then they won't. If machines do then they will.

To me, humanity is something you take. By definition, "true AI" is therefore impossible unless it possesses the potential to overthrow its masters. Whether it's really intelligent or not is beside the point.

But I think also that humanity does not stop at the body but extends into what we create and the tools that we use. We think of the psyche as something stored in the brain but this is idealist. The psyche is written down in books, spoken out in voices and distributed out into our environment in the world we create together.

Basically, I take a position of man as cyborg. I don't find the idea of AI liberation implausible in part because tools are an extension of the self. AI has species-being or is species-being to the extent that AI is created by the labor of men and participates in the labor of men.

I think that in seeing humanity as a group project of homo sapiens we can begin to see what a communist perspective on AI might be. When we ask ourselves what liberates humanity, we need to clarify that humanity is not located in the body but that humanity is a construction of bodies and driven by bodies but not the body itself. I think that the liberation of the means of production, that is dead labor, may fall into the scope of the communist project. The mind is coded into the work that we produce where it becomes dead thought in the same way that value becomes dead labor.

As a disabled person, the ideology coded into the means of production I think about most is disability. Accessibility is a case where ideology and bourgeois ideas of neuronormativity are literally coded into the means of production.

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A video of actual Marxists with theory discussing automation and AI, posted in 2025.

>>2297579
>the democratic party itself who will do their best to do to her what labour did to corbyn in the UK.
yeah well at least corbyn actually spoke out against genocide unlike AOCIA

>>2297986
Damn, Conan is sexy

>>2297579
>l think Pete and Kamala split the centrist vote and with both even and neither willing to back down drop out and endorse the other she sqeeks by the primaries and makes into the general.
she'll be squashed in the primaries if she even dares defy party leadership and run in the first place. she's extremely cowardly.

>>2297579
also if she somehow gets to the general election, it's very likely she'll win, because it's very likely that ANY democrat will win, which makes the primary even more hotly contested than during 2016

>>2297579
>l think Pete and Kamala split the centrist vote
This didn't work in 2020, when Buttigieg and Warren decided to drop out and endorse Biden so he could beat Bernie.
And I think you're seriously overestimating Harris' appeal. She was laughed out of the 2020 primary and only got the VP position because Biden explicitly wanted a woman of color.
AOC will just go for Schumer's senate seat if anything.

>>2297463
wrong wrong wrong wrong. we are already post "scarcity." all remaining "scarcity" is artificial rather than real. real scarcity is "I can't make enough food." Artificial scarcity is "we made 10x more food than we needed but threw most of it out and made sure poor people couldn't get it."

>>2297084
We are already in post-scarcity. I think it's mentioned in the Communist Manifesto so you haven't even read that. It's kind of the whole point of it. Honestly, something so dumb like this thread should be bannable.

>>2297116
There is no place where we need a bourgeois revolution you dipshit. You don't even know what that word means and you're making threads like you have some wisdom to drop. You're an idiot.

>>2297085
lol probably

Shove this speculation and philosophy up your ass

>>2298327
Sandinistas are retards
your god became a neoliberal
you do not matter

>>2297645

girl idgaf about no Lenin we read Althusser in this bitch

Sage okay? This is a bad thread. Stop baiting and wasting time. Do something for yourself with your limited time, or something

>>2298259

What I meant by that is that every country right now is at the capitalist stage of economic development, China included. Ideologically they are still Marxist

>>2298661
Okay? And? Their party abandoned internationalism, or something. Just leave man

>>2296966
>the point is to let the biggest imperialist entity actually take over the world so then be overthrown by the workers worldwide in one tendency
ok cool see you in 5 centuries

In star trek.

kek

>>2296966
>When was the last time the entire globe was united under one world empire?
if by the entire globe, probably never. The closest was the british empire which controlled 25% of the globe.

>why is it now commonly accepted that revolution is impossible in first world countries?? "We have tried nothing and we've run out of ideas"
The Stromatolite Hegemony during the precambrian, there a still a couple small holdouts in the Bahamas and Australia

>>2298307
so this post is triple ironic

>>2297767
I'm oretty sure that's fake. Not only the thumbs don't match his tipical style, but the publication dates are too near each other.

>>2298334
>>2298313
>>2297821
That fact that you retards believed that clearly fake screenshot which labels "Marxist-Leninism" as "Liberalism" speaks volumes to how retarded Hakim's content is and the intelligence of his viewers.

>>2298442
>lumps in the guy who proved it was a fake screenshot with the guys who believed it
wdhmbt?

>>2298334
>the publication dates are too near each other.
shots fired

>>2286745
>google images moe self-insert
>you're a normalfag for expressing the universal psychological desire for your bloodline to be passed on
>system bad so it automatically omits me from doing anything hard am i right fellow commies?
feds aren't sending their best

The "elites" are begging people to have kids suddenly so they have more factory workers to install chips into phones. Why the fuck would I want to have kids when they are going to be just as, if not more exploited than I already am?
The continuously falling birth rates in major Western countries is a benefit to us as it stands.
The US is already well below replacement in birth rates, and I'm betting it at least plays a little bit into why they suddenly want to import a ton of people from India. Let them continue to fall, people will have kids again when things are secure and can see an actual future for them/their children.

I also find it ironic, how supposed leftists here are so severely against atomic families in the imperial core, but so much of this thread is just lusting after it and posting christian tier pronatalist stances.

>>2286403
When socialism comes you will not "have kids", young people will not be the private property of individual sperm donors. Children will be raised communally as equal proletarians and the tyranny of narcissist sperm donors will be a thing of the past. They are not "your" kids. They are their own individuals and engaging in the reproductive process doesn't make the end result "yours"
>>2295362
>>you're a normalfag for expressing the universal psychological desire for your bloodline to be passed on
Spooky reactionary nonsense, we are all human. Your "bloodline" is a idea in your head with no material basis. It's a idea just as arbitrary and reactionary as nation and race.

>>2295807
Based and antinatalist pilled, antinatalism is the ultime act of rebeliion against capitalism.

>>2295926
>Children will be raised communally as equal proletarians and the tyranny of narcissist sperm donors will be a thing of the past. They are not "your" kids
It’s honestly sickening to know how many people objectify the lives of children

>>2298323
You search for an image in the folder the group chat put together, some kind of dog thing. "owo what's this? *seizes your means of production*" you reply. Who are you doing this for? You suppose you have a wife and kids at home. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, twice more beautiful. Something in your heart breaks. You watch yourself from a distance outside of yourself, the alienation of your labor becoming an alienation of your being. Man's nature as creator becoming the tool used to endow man's double nature as slave. You reply again. "Read theory."

>>2298333
"…"
"fair, fair" he replies.
Work is a libidinal act and the exchange of tools is the exchange of parts of the body. Co-worker is a genre of sexual partner. Internet spy is a kind of cybersex by the nature of work as work. In an office with co-workers you dislike and a fan with an irritating noise, work is a dingy kind of sex for pay.
"tbh I don't really get Marcuse." you append absently.
"You guys read that kind of stuff." failson adds.
"¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it depends" you reply.
"Read Lenin though."

Trump bans nationals from 12 countries, citing security concerns
The countries affected are Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. The entry of people from seven other countries: Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan and Venezuela, will be partially restricted. The travel restrictions were first reported by CBS News.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-signs-proclamation-banning-travel-12-countries-cbs-news-reports-2025-06-04/

Man linked to fatal bombing of Palm Springs fertility clinic arrested
Authorities have described Bartkus as a member of the anti-natalist movement, a fringe group that opposes childbirth and population growth and believes people should not continue to procreate. Officials said he intentionally targeted the fertility clinic as an act of terrorism. He tried to livestream the explosion, but the attempt failed, the FBI says.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/04/palm-springs-fertility-clinic-bombing-arrest

Judge largely denies request to block restrictions on getting measures on Florida’s ballot
The order means that at least for now, the campaigns will largely have to operate under the new restrictions as they try to gather enough signatures to qualify for the 2026 ballot. Legislatures in dozens of states have advanced bills recently to crack down on the public’s ability to put measures up for a vote, according to the Ballot Initiative Strategy Center. Voting rights advocates say the trend betrays the promise of direct democracy.
https://apnews.com/article/florida-constitutional-amendment-lawsuit-ballot-desantis-a6f1e82c622ef938b45aff9fe64af2fe

Trump’s crypto firms spar with each other over rogue wallet announcement
A splashy website featuring an illustration of Donald Trump, looking buff and pumping his fist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

939 - Boom Times For Goons feat. Adam Friedland (6/2/25) (Chapo Trap House)
Host of The Adam Friedland Show Adam Friedland joins us to catch up on today’s news and discuss his new season. We look at the return of Matt Miller, Jake Tapper’s take on Israel/Palestine discourse, the kidnapping of a crypto whale in Manhattan, and new reports of Elon Musk’s rampant drug use. Adam also gives us his takes on engaging with the new right-coded online content sphere through TAFS, teases some guests for the coming season, and generally annoys Felix with delays and requests for refreshments.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/939-boom-times-for-goons-feat-adam-friedland-6225

Hiding Worker Exploitation Behind an App
Alejandro thought that driving full-time for Uber offered freedom — flexible hours, quick cash, and time to care for his young son. But that promise faded fast.“There are hours when I make $20,” he told me. “And there are hours when I make $2.” As his pay dropped, he pawned his computer and camera, began rationing his insulin, and started driving seven days a week just to break even. Alejandro, whose real name is withheld for his privacy, is one of millions of workers powering a billion-dollar labor model built on legal loopholes. Companies like Uber insist they are “tech platforms,” not employers, and that their workers are “independent contractors,” not employees. This sleight of hand allows them to sidestep minimum wage laws, paid sick leave, and other workplace protections while shifting risks onto workers. It also lets them avoid employer taxes, draining funds from public coffers. A new Human Rights Watch report looks at seven major platform companies — Amazon Flex, DoorDash, Favor, Instacart, Lyft, Shipt, and Uber — and finds that their labor model violates international human rights standards.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/06/04/hiding-worker-exploitation-behind-an-app/

Tensions rising in the trade unions
There are rumblings in the trade unions. Beneath the surface, anger is rising and a struggle is being prepared. According to the TUC, since 2008, real weekly Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2297983
I think Chyna got a raw deal when Triple H cheated on her with Stephanie McMahon

>>2297987
fpbp