/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Move this bait thread to siberia plz

>>2646426
Earth was already round by the hellenic era

>>2646415
hows the EU campaign op ?

Europe after the Roman collapse was Actually Existing Socialism until it was taken over by the Carolingian counterrevolution

>>2646415
> the printing press was invented which helped spread Christianity from barbarism
??????????

>>2646527
Look into Druidism. It existed in ancient Britain.

>>2645554
translated into burger from russian

>>2645639
All empires inevitably want to expand. NATO isn't historically special.

>>2644803
>muh polycules
the left where I am is students and trade union guys lmao touch grass

>>2644831
NTA but to answer your original question OP my hunch is in cases where this can't be explained by the usual factors(being a petty bourgeois and the ensuing hitler particles) I have found it usually comes from a place of people who care too deeply about one or more types of idealism and/or woowoo and would rather blather on about escaping the matrix and how spiritually enlightened they are then embrace a more materialist outlook which might imply they aren't an extra special indigo child or more rarely you'll meet a dude whose resembles trump in mindset,demeanor and personality so much that an attack on trump may as well be an attack on them. That being said also the shitass psychoanalyzing is predicated on there being a significant group of people who get slidelined by the Haute bourgeois all the time but I also think they're too good for organizing with the proles and end up thinking everything is a conspiracy personally targeting them.

>>2644793
Depends on what section of the right you're talking about, for bourgeois types it's just a natural defence so they can retain their power and wealth at the top of the hierarchy.

If you mean uneducated, blue collar types it's usually from a place of ignorance and unwillingness to to learn about what socialism actually entails because they have been brainwashed to believe it will effect their material conditions in a negative way.

And for the 4chan and internet right types most of them are anti-social, outcasts suffering from parental neglect and mental illness who have feel scorned by society and the the masses they feel make up that society because they believe they are ultimately responsible for their shit lot in life and for rejecting them socially from society and the way society is in general, they in turn adopt nonsensical, extreme and absurd beliefs out of spite or actively want to harm the masses through mass shootings (the discourse on "normalfags" for example.) They have to retain and upkeep the ideology because their entire ego and identity rests upon it and rejecting it would make their entire identity, life and sense of enlightenment and uniqueness a lie.

>>2628529
>I don't even have a group
<individualist leftcom who can't find his place
Yawn and irrelevant, tbh.

Obv, i dont care about your fake ass opinion. You don't represent nothing. You are nothing. You are a little nerd who thinks the main problem with the USSR was having commodity production.

Have you no shame?

>>2628533
>You are a little nerd who thinks the main problem with the USSR was having commodity production.
That wasn't the main problem but that's true

>>2614019
>High level autistic thread
>reeing about idpol and rainbow flags
>Hungarian OP
Ginjeet is that you?

>>2628539
call his thread autistic all you want but he is a true communist for having vitriolic hatred for agent-provocateurs

>>2614019
we need an update
whre are you OP

>>2639590
Shut up, how old are you? Atleast he's doing something while you're in you're room playing CS2 all day

https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/ might be useful?

>>2640815
…a voice came from the Gulag
>>2640858
Yes

>>2640394
>it was japan, 2ch and the internet which made the rightists anti-feminists

Not really. If we're talking about rightists in the West, they've always been anti-feminist, and a lot of the anti-feminist/anti-progressive vitriol that really took off around the time of GamerGate was merely a continuation of decades of stereotypes about "SJWs"/progressive types. For example, the idea that feminists are all a bunch of unhinged spinsters that live alone with their cats is about as old as feminism itself.

Sure, imageboards may have made it easier for rightist ideas to be disseminated, but those ideas didn't just spontaneously appear because some reclusive nerd watched an episode of Sailor Moon

>>2641154
Guy on the right is the hottest thoughbeit

The Alt-Right would still have existed without 4chan, it might be hard to remember now but there was a time before Charlottesville when they were thriving throughout YouTube, reddit, etc. Not just 4chan.

>>2644399
I've always found the idea of 4Chan being solely responsible for the rise of the Aut-Right incredibly silly, and people that believe in it often ignore broader right wing trends in a lot of first world countries that allowed reactionary ideas to germinate.

Sure, perhaps if little Timmy didn't go on /pol/ when he should've been doing his homework instead it may have saved him from becoming a fan of Spick Fuentes, but he's still growing up in a wealthy household where both of his parents are Republican, still living in a deeply Republican state, and still living in a country that explicitly benefits from white supremacist imperialism

>>2645038
>Iran may seem and act like another neoliberal shithole but it's not cuz le morality police
Nice argument, unfortunately hijab laws were laxed and de facto removed from major urban areas following the 2022 protests when they began to threaten the longevity of the bourgeois state.

Similar thing happened in Saudi Arabia when social norms had to transform to accommodate the economic reality.

These two cases come down to one fundamental reason: the international character of capital and it's inevitable domination of the superstructure (what libs call globalisation) this is a progressive development that brings the workers of the world even closer. Even Afghanistan, what appears like centuries old reaction, is coming to terms with it thanks to its liberal capitalist base.

Workers of the world unite.

>>2645099
>second pic
And then as soon as that happened poles stopped the bolsheviks into western europe. Natlib in 2026 is just dumb

>>2645186
>into
*From getting into

>>2645025
Do you think Nazi Wehrmacht soldiers got a trial before Poolish partisans shot their asses? Please 🙄

6 Federal Prosecutors Resign as Trump DOJ Pushes for Investigation Into Renee Good’s Wife
A top prosecutor in the US attorney’s office in Minnesota who for years oversaw a major fraud investigation in the state was among six federal prosecutors who resigned Tuesday as the Trump administration demanded they investigate Becca Good, the widow of the Minneapolis resident who was killed by a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent last week.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/minnesota-fraud-investigation

EPA proposes limiting power of states and tribes to block major projects over water concerns
The Environmental Protection Agency on Tuesday proposed limiting states’ and Native American tribes’ power to wield the Clean Water Act to block major projects like natural gas pipelines, advancing the Trump administration’s goal of accelerating the construction of new fossil fuel infrastructure and data centers.
https://apnews.com/article/water-trump-epa-section-401-data-centers-42716f21a37cadf624e2d7dee05fa3c3

Cold weather and data centres drive up US greenhouse gas emissions
Last year homes burned more gas for heating while the use of coal surged by 13% to meet rising electricity demands, the data finds. Although solar power also shot up last year, overall, greenhouse gas emissions went up by 2.4% after two years of decreases, outpacing the level of economic growth, according to estimates from the Rhodium Group. The authors say the policies of the Trump administration didn't "meaningfully impact" the rise in emissions but they expect this to change in the coming years.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9r3832j47o

LA Protester Permanently Blinded After DHS Agent Unloads ‘Nonlethal’ Round Into His Face
A young protester in Santa Ana is permanently blind in one eye after being hit in the face at close range by a “nonlethal” round fired by a Department of Homeland Security agent last week amid nationwide protests against an immigration agent’s killinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tudeh Party of Iran, Iran on the Brink of Potentially Devastating Transformations: The Urgent Need for Immediate Action to Save the Country from Dictatorship
It must be stated clearly once again that the outbreak of the current protest uprising and its expansion over the past 15 days are rooted directly in the rapid spread of poverty, inequality, and blatant injustice, as well as corruption and the wealth accumulation of a small minority as a result of the government’s economic policies over the past three decades—not in demands for the return of monarchy or the restoration of royal rule. Moreover, alongside the heroic struggle of hundreds of thousands of people against despotism and class oppression, it is evident that certain organized elements and groups, through acts of sabotage and violence, are attempting to pave the way for direct intervention by the United States and its allies in the course of the current protests. In this way, the catastrophic consequences of the ruling theocratic regime’s domestic policies, combined with the devastating impact of U.S. sanctions on people’s lives and livelihoods, have placed the country today in an extremely difficult situation. Imperialist media outlets, once again relying on their vast resources and capabilities, have launched propaganda campaigns and disseminated fabricated narratives aimed at restoring the monarchy. They are attempting to ride the wave of the people’s legitimate protests and divert the anti-dictatorship movement from its true path. On the one hand, these media provide an excuse for regime leaders to label the people’s protest uprising as the work of the United States and Israel; on the other hand, by exaggerating monarchist currents, they seek to create obstacles in the process of building unity and practical coordination among progressive and national forces.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/Tudeh-Party-of-Iran-Iran-on-the-Brink-of-Potentially-Devastating-Transformations-The-Urgent-Need-for-Immediate-Action-to-Save-the-Country-from-Dictatorship/

TKP-ML IB: We salute the struggle of the Iranian people!
Protests that began in Iran on 28 December and quickly spread across the countryPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Loads of Somali scammers uncovered in Sweden.

Also, Nick Shirley is set to testify in front of Congress next week.

tybna

>>2644669
>Suspended from work
>UAW does nothing
Organize bros, I don't feel so good…

>>2644816
>muh consoooomerism
pseud
https://marxisthumanistinitiative.org/the-left-and-the-masses-the-question-of-consumerism
https://redsails.org/the-negation-of-abnegation/

>>2645399
i didn't use the word consumerism in that post

>>2644010
ya know once you type it out like that I can understand why all this talk of technofeudalism is in vogue even if this just a particular model of neoliberalism. The one silverlining with the reactoid gun hoarders is a lot of them forgot to hoard the supplies necessary for food and water or actually learn much of anything about bushcraft or survivalism past gun ownership. the anti-silver lining of that is if shit hits the fan these people will probably just murderhobo with the police.

>>2644400
I spent nearly a year being homeless. Go sell you fucking blood and stop internet begging. Might be good for you to go outside for a while, get some context to life.

>>2619217
In my opinion this was a mistake. No consumer based light industry was built and the quality of life of USSR citizens was low as a result.

>>2619217
China is a very different society in a very different position. There was already a powerful and concentrated proletariat in Russia and that made it possible for it to create a class situation where the peasantry's petty bourgeois impulses weren't entertained as much. The peasantry itself also had a very long-standing communal culture that was only broken up relatively recently and that process was still going on, if in the last phases, in fact it was one of the reasons Bolsheviks took power. Chinese peasants had thousands of years of private property so that's not as easy to snuff out in a short amount of time. Soviet Union itself went along with different solutions in countries like Poland because that's the point of local parties, they adapt to local conditions.
That's not to mention the very different external situation. China managed to infiltrate the capitalist camp, "market socialism" could only provide the growth it did because of the relationship between China and imperialist powers. Very few socialist countries have that opportunity, Cuba and North Korea would have probably preferred to have the kind of relationship it has with the west but they are not given the choice. Neither was Soviet Union given a choice at any point in time and even with all the revisionist wrecking and capitalist destruction countries like Russia or Belarus still have a higher GDP PPP per capita (won't for long of course, but people should keep Chinese achievement in context).
The Soviet model is generally far better and far more applicable to most countries but China had an opportunity to industrialize in a different way and crush western production while at it, that's awesome and we should all be glad they did it.
>>2614940
No, it was a unique situation. China is a very unique country in many regards. Also people tend to overstate how important the market is in China or was during NEP, the party still always has the final say and does anything it deems fit like crashing the housing market on purpose and no doubt pissing tens to a hundred million antiproletarian elements that bought several apartments for the sole purpose of storing wealth.

>>2619124
>the least
its not a problem. it doesnt exist.

>>2619216
>innovation (already addressed) incentives (not addressed)
like many pro capitalist arguments that devolve into "not real capitalism" when faced with reality, these models expect an ideal market that not only surely does not exist in the age of imperialism with monopolies, never actually existed historically either. monopoly capitalism also does not provide for innovation or inventives

This is still my magnum opus.

>>2615032
>Communism requires a certain mode of production you super retard
A communist society, the end goal of communism, does.
Communism, the movement, does not imply the immediate, magical transformation of a society's MoP. Absolute idealism.

ACKsis status?

>>2620808
>>2620828
>>2620842
>>2620881
I don't know who you think you're fooling.

>>2643314
That looks like the guy who contacted Iran to get the green light for war on terror

dead islamist = working class victory

Simple as