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 No.96287[Reply]

Is this the next LaRouche?
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 No.96292

Make it happen burgersharts
Your country is a joke might as well make it a good one
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 No.96317

cringe and based
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 No.96326

>>96287
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

TAKE THE BILLIONS GIVE IT TO THE POOR. THIS IS AMERICAN MARXISM.
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 No.96331

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MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A BILLIONAIRE


HE IS RISEN

I WANT ZUCKERBERGS MONEY, I WANT GATES MONEY AND I WANNA GIVE IT TO THE POOR

BUST UP THESE CORPORATIONS AND THIS NATION CHANGES OVERNIGHT

JUST TAKE THEIR MONEY

IL RE-ENGERNERE SOCIETY , IL TAKE THE MONEY FROM THEM AND GIVE IT TO THE POOR.
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 No.96365

>>96287
This retard is just grifting to get some easy votes. You'd have to be mentally retarded to think he just genuinely did a 180 on his political positions.


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 No.95689[Reply]

Post your favorite alternate history scenarios and maps, particularly those that pertain to socialism.
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 No.96174

>>95951
So America has its own warlord era and eventual socialist insurgency? Seems a lot like the Chinese Civil War.
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 No.96176

>>95967
>What if a failed Red Scare along with African-American civil rights, labor disputes and anarchist bombings enabled the riots to gain the kind of support BLM dreams of and resulted in a USA communist revolution.
The riots were much different from the ones you've seen during BLM protests. It wasn't black people protesting/rioting against police brutality, it was white people rioting against the presence of black people in their cities.
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 No.96179

>>95753
World communism with Trotsky as the head of the communist party >>95697 related.
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 No.96294

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>>95945
>>95952
Alright. I've fixed the map to include an occupied Turkey. So that is what they meant by an Ottoman Empire under bourgeois occupation.
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 No.96337

>>95952
I meant that after Finland goes red at the end of WW1 Sweden would have gone fascist at the beginning of WW2


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 No.93210[Reply]

Was he really trying to overthrow the Soviet state?
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 No.96045

idk, probably not
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 No.96254

>>95698
No, it's not "populism", you tendentious tard, it's a form of "journalism" in which a question is asked of people who happen to be in that place at the time and their responses are played back one after the other.
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 No.96256

>>96254
Yeah, in some places in the Anglosphere like the UK they're known as "voxpops"
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 No.96260

>>96256 (me)
This is for man on the street segments of the news, not sure why I neglected this key piece of information.
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 No.96265

>>96256
Cheers for the proper nomenclature.


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 No.89880[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Do they not understand the inherent contradiction in stanning Mao but also stanning the PRC which represents pretty much everything he criticized in the USSR but much worse and also exactly what he was trying to destroy with the Cultural Revolution?
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 No.95980

I think Marx wrote something about this:

>Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language. Thus Luther put on the mask of the Apostle Paul, the Revolution of 1789-1814 draped itself alternately in the guise of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire, and the Revolution of 1848 knew nothing better to do than to parody, now 1789, now the revolutionary tradition of 1793-95. In like manner, the beginner who has learned a new language always translates it back into his mother tongue, but he assimilates the spirit of the new language and expresses himself freely in it only when he moves in it without recalling the old and when he forgets his native tongue.
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 No.96013

>>89892
>CIA wants you to support China to make leftist impotent
The absolute state of this board. But its nice to know that larger platforms have pro China propaganda to undermine the western hegemony.
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 No.96016

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>>89892
>The CIA wants you to support the greatest threat to its power since the fall of the Soviet Union
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 No.96208

>>95966
>You know communist tradition mean a party following a specific communist ideology
Are you claiming they are not responding to material conditions as they are, but as they imagine them to have once been? And that this is somehow relevant and not larp?

>>96013
>the enemy of my enemy is always my friend
Not when they are simply rivals for the same elite position.
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 No.96212

>>89880
> represents pretty much everything he criticized in the USSR but much worse
do you really think Mao was in the right for the Sino Soviet split?
> exactly what he was trying to destroy with the Cultural Revolution?
can you elaborate what you think he was trying to destroy exactly?


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 No.94513[Reply]

Or is this just a red version of Whig history?
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 No.96051

>>94808
>that is anything other then that it is deterministic
>t.has never watched Lola rennt and doesn't know how the term "wildcat" applies to petroleum exploration
Assuming that is true, it is also path-dependent. The idea that one can "go back" in time is idealistic Whig strawman garbage. A society can choose the incentives and facilities it offers for any particular course of action. It must and it does, however unconsciously or unevenly influenced by players.
>Also, Tainter still comes to the conclusion that the only way out is to find solutions which can only be reached by greater development
You mean this?
<In a sense the lack of a power vacuum , and the resulting competitive spiral, have given the world a respite from what otherwise might have been an earlier confronta­tion with collapse . Here indeed is a paradox: a disastrous condition that all decry may force us to tolerate a situation of declining marginal returns long enough to achieve a temporary solution to it. This reprieve must be used rationally to seek for and develop the new energy source(s) that will be necessary to maintain economic well-being. This research and development must be an item of the highest priority, even if, as predicted, this requires reallocation of resources from other economic sectors. Ad­equate funding of this effort should be included in the budget of every industrialized nation (and the results shared by all) . I will not enter the political foray by suggesting whether this be funded privately or publicly, only that funded it must be.
That was 40 years ago. There has been development, but as usual with human endeavors, it was not certain to come to pass, let alone succeed. It is still not known whether fusion for energy is a close-run thing, or whether a wrong turn has resulted in too much lost time to make up.

>>95817
I want to find the people who think working 50 hour weeks is normal and proper and put them to the wall before smashing their waifus.

>>95880
>hopefully
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 No.96052

>>95872
I hate transphobes like anyone on here but this is some cringe radlib ideation
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 No.96053

Not inevitable, no. But it's the only way out.
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 No.96140

>>95872
How will you procreate?
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 No.96148

>>96051
>Assuming that is true, it is also path-dependent.The idea that one can "go back" in time is idealistic Whig strawman garbage. A society can choose the incentives and facilities it offers for any particular course of action. It must and it does, however unconsciously or unevenly influenced by players.
Completely missed the point about society itself already inherently engaging in movement (by "problem solving" or otherwise) and that we are doing so whether we try and stem it or not. I also insist you read about determinism before referencing movies and the practice of random oil drilling, I was talking about how reality is more likely to be deterministic simply due to how it operates.
>That was 40 years ago. There has been development, but as usual with human endeavors, it was not certain to come to pass, let alone succeed. It is still not known whether fusion for energy is a close-run thing, or whether a wrong turn has resulted in too much lost time to make up.
The point is that capitalism has shown that it cannot formulate or implement the measures that are necessary.


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 No.56299[Reply]

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.


Link to last thread archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210109172410/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/1059488.html

The thread from which it was born:

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 No.95123

>>94938
I think it's the whole postcolonial thing, AND since this is a tinfoil hat thread I know that the nazis tried to cozy up to Mexico during WWII in an attempt to get some leverage in the Americas, but eventually they chose to go for south America.
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 No.95145

>>93913
see if you can find a way to score with the jewish girl.
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 No.95152

>>94938
A lot of it has to do with being mixed race IMO, Burgerstan especially produces lot of weird Latino wignats. I remember growing up as a kid I wanted to be white and even for a long time after I was ashamed of my heritage and without any real education of your own culture's history combined with that feeling of uncertainty leaves you ripe for grooming by people with less than pleasant motivations. I grew out of it of course as I realized these people would never like or accept me because I'm brown, but people like my older and younger brother who look like they could be from Spain both fell into reaction in an attempt to reconcile their internal struggles with their "race". Neither of them like to speak Spanish, and constantly refer to all of Latin American cultures as lesser.

My older brother is a Wehraboo who has a bunch of Nazi model kits and memorabilia. He's got at least four different SS flecktarn jackets that he wears regularly and a few tank commander hats and an actual replica SS officer hat sitting in his room. He actively avoids the sun and wears sunscreen to avoid tanning and constantly calls me ugly cuz I'm noticeable Mestizo and will also quote 13/50 frequently along with unironically stanning Thomas Sowell while simultaneously engaging in the weird fascist leaning critiques of capitalism on his twitter.

My younger brother came out actually white and is an unemployed NEET who constantly parrots Ben Shapiro and Crowder talking points and is disgusted by the fact that "you can use slurs (no you can't dumbass) in Mexico but not in the USA" and constantly apologizes for white supremacists and ICE mistreatment of his own fucking people despite on some level probably realizing that they would liquidate his dad and mom who buy his lazy ass cheeseburgers if given the chance on the basis of ethnicity alone.

The Chicano movement needs to make a comeback IMO, dealing with these types is annoying because they think being "brown" protects them and they falsely labor under the notion that Latinos will be subsumed into whiteness (hint: they won't, they've been in the US for hundreds of years now and Anglo aggression has never let up) so it's basically impossible to snap them out of their retarded ideas
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 No.95166

I'd like to add, a lot of Latinos like my brothers tend to fall into weird racial essentialism where they misattribute the problems that come with being from an impoverished background (as a result of being born to poor, often illiterate immigrants) to being Mexican or what have you.

I think they fail to realize that if they had been born in the coal belt or something they would have much of the same issues re:ignorant parents, backwards coworkers and a general self sabotaging attitude
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 No.96145

Really makes you think.


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 No.64588[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What class position are you and/or your family from? Both in Marxist and Weberian/modern sociological terms?

Marxist classes: porky/capitalist, petit bourgeois, pmc/labor aristocrat, prole, lumpen
Modern "sociology" classes: See picrel for burgerland version, probably similar in other countries
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 No.75819

I'm a labor aristocrat or petty bourgeois since I own a house (I mean the bank owns it for now but my names on the lease so no landlord to deal with except myself).
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 No.76029

>>64588
Petit bourgeoisie I suppose, when I grew up both my parents had small crappy businesses. My extended family also had a family business for decades. Both of my parents are probably more in the labor aristocracy class nowadays.

As for Weber, should be lower middle class. The distinction between blue-collar and white-collar workers to determine class is cringe though.
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 No.76032

>>64588
Easiest way to classify people is by net worth relative to their city/country.
Too many people here think making more than subsistence wages means you are a petit.

ez mode to identify idiots, they use "labor aristocrat" seriously.
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 No.76335

>>64710
The original paper is even worse and starts applying it to people whose class position is absolutely working class but they have a degree.
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 No.96102

>>64588
Im lower middle upper class A+ with all the benefits of my burgerland status or just on/off prole/lumpen because studies.


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 No.91010[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

He is a treasure. I was thus far more intersted on what he has to say about the media and contemporary capitalism, but his work on Roman history is also great. Am just watching his lecture on the assasination of Ceasar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IO_Ldn2H4o

Say something nice about Michael Parenti.
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 No.92223

>>91937
And the bombing of Yugoslavia has nothing to do with the Bosnian war, but with violence in Kosovo.
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 No.92245

>>91264
Neither does Chomsky. That is one thing they both agree on.
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 No.92341

>>92245
What is their reason for that
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 No.96077

bump. we need more parenti simps.
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 No.96080

Parenti brought me out of my succdem post-Bernie box and taught me that communism is actually based.


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 No.68308[Reply]

I had a conversation on here with someone who seemed to know very interesting theories on the development of African tribes/civilizations from an environmental/geographical/material standpoint. Can you guys recommend me any related literature to that?

And on a side note, what is your opinion on environmental determinism? What are the strength and flaws of that theory?
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 No.70367

>>70117
Tbh most of the criticism of him comes from indigenologists and specialists in cultures that he generalises about. Once saw an expert in Mesoamerica basically say "Jared Diamond's theories are valid, they just fall apart on exposure to actual examples".

Also he makes this point about how Europe developed naval technology because of peninsulas and multiple states, yes hello India and South East Asia here we are exactly the same.
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 No.70372

>>70341
There are steps that a society usually goes through before emerging as a civilized class society engaging in large warfare, conquests, genocide, and the oppression of entire sexes
Horticulture, that is, the use of agriculture enacted on the natural world prior to engaging in things such as settled agriculture, soil tilling, irrigation, etc. was extensive on the island continent; AFAIK it’s a similar situation to the Amazon rainforest where so many of the plants are ones that people specifically wanted to grow.
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 No.70396

>>70215
true, it expanded the productive forces
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 No.74624

bump for effortposts
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 No.96070

>>70272
He was also supportive of Hitler and Mussolini.


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 No.93901[Reply]

Gotta say, this is the most sickening Weird Sex Web Site article I’ve read, these fuckers actually have the nerve to try arguing that the true revolutionary programme of the 1960s and 70s was not the global anti-colonial struggle, but some fucking newspaper shilling cunts nobody ever heard of who are of course connected to their own party
Tbh WSWS anon should get banned, fuck these people
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/02/25/juda-f25.html
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 No.94903

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imo
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 No.94904

WSWS moment
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 No.94920

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The fucking nerve.
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 No.95021

I think the autism is where they should've stopped emulating Trotsky.
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 No.96015

>>95021
Honestly the most annoying thing about these people is the fact that they’re claiming some irrelevant trot party nobody’s fucking heard of were definitely on the verge of bringing revolution, and yet the Party the FBI felt the need to actively seek out and destroy were not
Wtf is wrong with these haughty cunts?


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