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How can anyone think that Donald Trump is a Christian when all he is a Zionist bootlicker not just that he’s enforce the National Guard deported so many migrants friends with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bombed boats in Venezuela he’s basically a war criminal but apparently he worked at McDonald’s. I’m loving it. That. Fat fuck

Christianity for most people is based aesthetics and not actually following the doctrine, cause if that was true they would all become vagabonds. Also no right winger believes Trump is a Christian they just like his policies.



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How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?

For the past 10 years, the entire crux of the Democratic Party has been "STOP TRUMP". The average American Democrat or liberal now bases their political views solely on how much they hate Trump, MAGAts, "manosphere" podcasters, so-called "alt-right pipelines", and everything in between. They have no real principles and it shows.

The right-wing, on the other hand, believes it is creating a new world; it's a much worse world, but that's how they want it. This has caused liberals to prop up the old, dying system as a way of preventing it from collapsing into something worse. Now, we're seeing liberals who claim to be "left-wing" embrace everything from free trade agreements (on the basis Trump's tariffs need to be stopped) to hyper-consumerism (on the basis that spending money on fashion and makeup and mindless consumer goods helps maintain your "individuality" against Trump-era conformity) to literal junk food (in order to own RFK and MAHA). It doesn't take much to realize all of these were once things American liberals strongly opposed 20-25 years ago; I'm old enough to remember when "clean girl" no-makeup aesthetics, eating organic, and herbal medicines were leftist things.

American liberals are now pushing a culture of hyper-rationality and order to counter the mass chaos that has erupted in America under Trump. They hate ICE agents terrorizing communities but they hate the sporadic community defence and protests that pop up to beat back ICE even more. They hate the Luigi Mangiones and the Tyler Robinsons and the prospects of an American Years of Lead. They want everything to be "rational" and based on slow progression and linear shit. But this way is outdated. Trying to find the "middle path" doesn't work when capitalism is in a state of collapse. For the liberal, everything that doesn't fit their paradigm is "mysticism" which always equates to "fascism" and needs to be stamped out before it manifests into authoritarianism. But how can this hyper-rationalism win?

The same is true of foreign policy. Liberals insist on American soft power, which arguably won't work in a world post-Gaza where American support for the most documented genocide in recent history was on full display. Trump, on the other hand, is an old school imperialist who simply seizes whatever he demands without caring.

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I don’t think that there will be a strong liberal movement after Trump. The liberal base is practically all just demsocs except for boomers and unless you consider them to also be liberals then it’s pretty much over. Everyone is either a demsoc or a Nazi which is pretty bad because I don’t think that demsocs are the polor opposite of Nazis, I would consider the polor opposite of a demsoc to be an Eisenhower-style conservative and I would consider the polor opposite of Nazis to be Maoists, then again what would a Guevarist like me know? After all we all like to think we are in the center.

>>2526945
If the Dems could recover from the Vietnam debacle (Vietnam was a Dem project for most of America’s involvement) they can recover from the Gaza genocide
What they cannot recover from is their utter inability to improve anyone’s life in any way

>>2526850
>american liberalism after liberalism
Same old. Uniparty will continue to murder both americans and foreign victims of imperialism in the name of capital.

>How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?
Those who aren't ready for socialism, particularly those not directly hit hard by the current repression, might just celebrate the 'victory' of Democrats (assuming they aren't overtly blocked from electoral power) and interpret it as the system working, validating their trust in US institutions, electoralism and the legal system. Honestly, a show-trial of Trump could kill a revolution.

But if socialists GTFO /leftypol/ and actually seize upon these grievances, they can inoculate people from liberalist claims of America working, if/when the Republicans face any roadblocks in the future.

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I used to think that the democrats were a good thing but now I think they crap



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How do we resolve the paradox of reform and complacency?

Put simply,
>the vast majority in Western countries seem unmotivated to engage in political activity, beyond absolute trivial acts like voting or sharing opinions. This is assumed to be largely a result of complacency, despite the material issues caused by the current political systems.

>acceleration schools of thought may suggest intentionally worsening the conditions of regular people, assuming this will motivate them to focus on improving their conditions rather than tolerating the status quo. opponents will point out that making conditions worse makes it harder to organize and lessens people's ability to act effectively

>reformists may suggest improving conditions through political education and participation. however, opponents will point out that improving conditions through the system increases complacency without solving the root problem.
Where else do we go? Dual power? Selective reform?



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).
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Did subcomandante Marcos really say that?

allegedly there is a controversy (that only exists bc of rumor so take with a grain of salt) that one council betrayed another in favor of their own interests(not stepping in for security or something like that), which, as a result is argued to have made it easier for the govt to overrun their specific territory. first of all, a tragedy but also confirmed a critique/bogeyman of this system where small town/council "nationalism" overrides helping others in favor of their territory's interests. anyone hear about this? you can try to discuss it but anarchists and such will call you a fed for even wanting to find out about it/clarifying details

Nazism is shit in all forms

>>2575989
anarchism as a movement collapsed this decade. there's no substance to it anymore, anarchism as it exists (or recently existed) would never be able with its network of communes to go against the bourgeois state. people hopefully realize this before lapsing into literal identity politics like the OP

>>2575220
I've always been interested in the revolutionary process within Catalonia/Aragon/Spain during their civil war but I've never been able to find anything that focused on that topic alone. Where can i find this?



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>>2575760
Its a sign that western powers are ready to negotiate and let Russians enter different institutions so there can be a dialog. Trumps cuckoldry can also not be underestimated.

Closely related to this subject is that Jared Kushner tried to include a "christian alliance against China" in the the original 28 part plan which Russians were smart enough to dismiss outright. While not a big fan of Russia I have loyalty towards socialist states like PRC and DPRK.

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r8 the plan

>>2575506
God I love Luka

Shall I bake?




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Guinea-Bissau army officers say they have seized power; president deposed
The head of the main opposition PAIGC party, Domingos Simoes Pereira, has also been arrested, Haque said. “As well, we’ve just heard that the military is trying to cut off the Internet. There’s a curfew in place.” He added that the army officer leading the coup, Denis N’Canha, served as the head of the presidential guard. “The man supposed to protect the president himself has put the president under arrest,” Haque said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/26/guinea-bissau-army-claims-total-control-after-gunshots-heard-in-capital
https://archive.ph/F0LbG

Sudanese army rejects RSF proposed truce
Sudan’s top military commander, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, slammed the US-backed truce initiative as benefiting the RSF and the United Arab Emirates, which many in the international community believe to be backing the paramilitary group.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/sudanese-army-rejects-rsf-proposed-truce

Syrian security forces use gunfire to disperse rival protests in Latakia
Witnesses said hundreds of Alawite protesters had gathered to demand a federal political system in Syria and the release of men they say were unjustly detained by the country's new authorities. Supporters of the government then gathered and began shouting insults at the Alawites. While members of Syrian minorities have called for federalism in Syria, the idea has little support among the Sunni majority.
https://www.newarab.com/news/syrian-police-use-gunfire-disperse-protests-latakia

Israel lays siege to occupied West Bank’s Tubas, displaces tens of families
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Thanks News Anon


>>2575093
>Another Italian antifascist activist, Ilaria Salis, arrested during the Day of Honour event in 2023 on three counts of attempted assault and membership of an extreme left-wing organisation, was held in Hungarian custody for about 15 months.

>However, she had to be released when she was elected to the European Parliament for Italy’s Greens and Left Alliance in June last year.


Based

>>2575391
Didn't see that one, thanks anon




 

Hello /leftypol/

Here is my most viewed websites for the past 100+ days. What sites are you visiting? Tell me what I need more of.

Everything is getting pulled more and more into social media platforms lately, and they are so absolutely shit I need something else.

>Letterboxd.
>Reddit
>Actually putting most of these websites on an easily trackable browser
>Datamining thread

These are pretty much all I use nowadays.



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Feels like most people seriously think communism boils down to educating people, lol. Even those who associate communism only with their idea of the party, who even came up with that? They are mixing up the role of the party with any random group that slaps "communist party" on their name. The party is basically the brain of the class, the class' political and economic expression of its program. It is not some random ideological point, it is an unavoidable necessity. No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party. Like there can be antagonism between the class' economic and political necessities but most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.

>>2574311
>No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party.
Tell me why. Explain it like you would to a child.

>>2574311
>most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.
it might emerge that way, but parties can become revisionist and/or self destructive, like the CPSU did. Did the class "need" the CPSU to dissolve the USSR?

Communism is a mode of production

The rest of your post is vauge in purpose and irrelevant to the starting topic.

As an angsty teenager I read a lot existensialist philosophy and got this urge do actually change things but it always amounted to poetry or philosophy, two practices that rarely have consequences or historical meaning. Idealist voluntarism describes it pretty good. Marxism on the other hand gave me the understanding that to actually impose my will is impossible and the best I can hope for was to understand the mores of the times and not have my will deviate from the mores, too much. And the way to actually impose any kind of will is to impose the inevitable "will" of the class, which is to say to pursue the class interest of the proletariat.

A kind of schizophrenia ocurrs when you try to cross voluntarist approaches to social revolution. The only way to actually pursue the solutions to the problems Marxism presents itself is to practice real life, dirty-Jewish politics. You have to push proletarian association wherever you are. For me this amounts forcing people to organize into whichever kind of structures while presenting my case, the communist case, as everyone's case. There's no granduer to it essentially and most of my escapades lead to dead ends. Most people think I'm a complete weirdo probably, because communism, organization, class and the proletarian movement is the only thing I talk about in general (when I'm not talking about work).



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Why wasn’t there any type of De-Maoization?
When Nikita Khrushchev took office after Stalin he went on a campaign of de-Stalinization where statues of Stalin were torn down and streets and cities named after him were renamed. Why didn’t Deng Xiaoping do the same with Mao Zedong? I’m not saying that Deng should have or shouldn’t have but I’m just wondering why. Because Mao is still celebrating in China and seen as a great figure who only made a few mistakes.
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>>2531318

Do you have any non-CIA bitch source to site for that ?

>>2531366
Pakistan won

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>>2530049
There was a de-Hua Guofeng-ization. Mao's successor had his own cult of personality for 2 years and it got completely dismantled to the point that his death in 2008 was barely noticed.

>>2531366
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia are literal CIA propaganda outlets. Consider shooting yourself.

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Do you support regime change in Venezuela? Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2574582
this is why i keep posting the marx quote about crude communism while also acknowledging the existence of labor aristocracy. that is the correct position: >>2574396

>>2574583
>uh no lol. You're not getting that correct. It wasn't even really a flame war. It was a lot of things. Maybe don't try to bring it up again
Actually I did. It was half flame war, and half just unloading brain farts while pretending to be smart.

>>2574576
No we can’t rest on our laurels, if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is, the tea party psychos of yesteryear are moderates compared to tpublicans and they’re getting punched from the right by gryopers.

>>2574573
>things never said
>the reply.
>>2574575
>>2574569
they are juicy even if you are a new hire, much better than the average market.

>>2574593
>if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is
just one problem, m8, the reactionaries can afford to do that because they are hegemonic and showered with money by the Thiels and Kochs of the world, while the DSAcels are cucked into tailing the DNC



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