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The primary contradiction in non-AES Global South countries is not "foreign-bourg vs national-bourg" but rather, it's "industrial capitalist vs financial capitalist".

An imperialist foreign Western capitalist who builds a factory and develops the productive forces by outsourcing and transferring technology and capital is infinitely more progressive than a "patriotic" "sovereign" nationalist financial capitalist or service capitalist.

Countries that realized this simple fact, like South Korea, Mexico, Poland, Indonesia etc are able to develop and massively increase their standard of living.

Countries that misguidedly pursued "sovereignty" instead via protectionism and over regulation, like many post-colonial countries, suffered from stagnation. Those countries were actually scammed by their "patriotic" bourgeoisie to protect their local capital from competition that would have built industry and improved their standard of living.

Therefore, being blindly anti-imperialist by default is not useful. Collaborating with foreign and domestic industrial giants while keeping both domestic and foreign finance at bay should be the primary goal of socialists in these countries.
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>>2786505
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>it amounts to the same thing, since the financial capitalists are the comprador booj in thrall to the imperial core while the indsustrial capitalists are the national booj who wanna develop the productive forces and exercise sovereignty over the natural resources. It basically is the modern equivalent of the difference between tories and patriots in 1776. Loyalty to the metropole of capital vs a national independence movement.
underrated trvke

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>>2786720
>industrial capital good! finance bad!

>>2786715
Western europe had pesants until the 1960's, and it's countries were already well developed

>>2786213
It loosely follows that the opposite is true in the developed world and that the current protectionist turn is reactionary.

>>2786779
> the Austrian school as lackeys of finance capital against workers
remember what Von Mises was doing furing ww2: serving Engelbert Dollfuss under "Austrofascism"



 

if japan hadn't surrendered to the USA, would we have gotten AES japan?

Replace "they were more terrified of stalin" at the end with "they were more terrified of a Communist Japan" or "they were more terrified with an end to class society." and you will have the true essence of the problem.



 

watch john k cartoons they are the best


way better than those shitty disney cartoons

looking at you moon girl and shitty dinosaur

the only people who hate his cartoons are shitty artists
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>>2790868
omg, thingnoticer, are you back???

>>2790868
Unfappable

I was always a big fan of the original series, This is the first time I watched an episode of the Adult Party cartoon and I can now see why people Hate it and Love it at the same time. It can go from a funny gag of Red waxing a women's pussy like he is waxing off paint to a terrible gag of watching him stuck between a hairy dude's calves.





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What exactly is the logic of American liberals who claim getting "money out of politics" would do anything to fix the innate contradictions of capitalism?

I live surrounded by liberals. When I ask them how they would solve the existing problems in the current system, they always reduce their solutions down to three things: 1. arrest the "Epstein class" (yay, prisons!), 2. overturn the Citizens United SCOTUS decision to get money out of politics, and 3. bring back the Fairness Doctrine (no idea how that's supposed to work when everyone under 35 is getting their political views from influencers, YouTubers, and Twitch streamers rather than TV news but I digress).

I have a very hard time understanding how politics is supposed to be divorced from money in any way. The entire political system is designed to serve the capitalist class. Putting limits on how much the rich can donate to politicians or lobbyist groups doesn't change that.

It seems like the main reason liberals like spreading this myth is because they take for granted the idea everyone would willingly vote for mediocre establishment Democrats over the GOP if billionaires weren't allowed to give large sums of money to GOP candidates, never mind the fact that plenty of billionaires also support liberal Democrats too (Obama's biggest donor in 2008 was Goldman-Sachs, for instance). I fail to see how overturning Citizens United would do anything to lead us to socialism. Seems like more of a symbolic victory than anything. What does everyone else say?
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>>2791301
This
We need less Jeffrey Epsteins and more Oprah Winfreys

>>2791046
>>2791060
>sophisticated material analysis is when you post random graphs without context and spout reactionary nonsense to defend some allegedly 'better past' of a settler colonialist bourgeoise oligarchy
okay

>>2789502

Realizing that the only way to see true change is to completely flip the system on it's head is obviously required for many'a leftists

These cattle who would chose what we have now over any left wing economic system have yet to have this realization and never will because they are either to brainwashed from the residue of the Red Scare or they have no empathy and re in a position which benefits from the system.

The only reason to pose these hypothetical ways to do the best within the system is if you have completely abandoned the idea of any serious socialist movement gaining power.

>>2789502
These are "safe" solutions that doesnt threaten them or the status quo. Its about rationalization of self-interest.

>>2791992
asinine but incredibly common worldview.
let me ask you this: trade unions are effectively regulated into pointlessness in england. there are so many restrictions on what you can do that it's basically impossible to withdraw your labour in a way that does real damage. would "supporting"* a future centre-left government in weakening or repealing the 1980s-1990s laws that gave effect to this situation - an undoubtedly reformist act - really constitute "abandoning" the idea of any socialist movement gaining power? would it not make more sense to think of this change as the first and most obvious direct step towards building the kind of left-wing institutions that can actually take power in future?
once you accept this broad principle, all of the rest follows.
ironically the left would do well to read a lot of rightoids and neoliberals on incentives. why is it that the bourgeoise can run a lemonade stand but we can't? easy: they're being paid. building a serious revolutionary org is hard work, but you get exactly the same - perhaps better - short term rewards by posing as radical online. the ROI on cosplaying a revolutionary is so much better than the ROI on seriously working towards it.

*a wonderful non-term which can mean anything from "saying 'yeah cool good' on leftypol.org" to "actively a member and works 16 hour days to help the party"



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Israel 'preparing large scale assault on Gaza' amid Iran, Lebanon ceasefires: reports
It said that if US President Donald Trump decides to end the war with Iran and the truce in Lebanon holds, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will seek to keep the offensive ongoing on other fronts, particularly as the October 2026 Israeli elections approach. Netanyahu’s opponents have accused him of failing to achieve "absolute victory" in Gaza, and according to Haaretz, this is one of the reasons why he would want to restart the war.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-prepares-major-assault-gaza-amid-iran-truce-report

Israeli settlers cross into Syria and Lebanon calling for new settlements
According to Israel’s Walla news site, around 40 activists from the Halutzei HaBashan movement crossed the Syrian border on Wednesday and entered the village of Hader in the Quneitra governorate. Some of the group reportedly barricaded themselves inside a building, tying themselves to it and urging the public to pressure Israeli ministers not to remove them from Syrian territory.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-settlers-cross-syria-and-lebanon-and-call-new-settlements

Europeans must recognize US, China and Russia are ‘dead against’ us, says Macron
He said the main difference between the first and second Trump terms was that many European countries thought the first term was an aberration that would end, not requiring fundamental changes. “Now, a lot of colleagues are more lucid, because after so many years, we say, okay, we have to react. We have to act as Europeans, to be more united, to defend ourselves our own interests. And for me, this is the right direction.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-warns-europe-unity-against-us-china-russia/
https://archive.ph/nHIDe

Fourth refugee rescue ship detained in ItalyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Trump administration pushes DoJ to pursue denaturalization cases – report
The US government can ask a court to remove citizenship status of people who illegally obtained it. In some cases, people who have been denaturalized have been caught lying to officials or caught entering into a false marriage. In other cases, people who commit crimes can be denaturalized.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/23/trump-administration-denaturalization

Mamdani vetoes one protest buffer zone bill, ‘allows’ another to become law
The other protest buffer zone bill, Intro. 1-B, would establish protective measures near houses of worship. Mamdani said he would “allow it to become law,” but did not indicate that he would put his signature to it. Under the city charter, legislation sent to the mayor’s desk may become law within 30 days if the mayor neither signs nor vetoes it.
https://www.amny.com/politics/mamdani-vetoes-protest-buffer-zone-bill/
https://archive.ph/Rwtox

Maine Gov. Mills Ripped for Veto of Landmark AI Data Center Moratorium
The bill, LD 307, which passed both chambers of Maine’s Legislature with bipartisan support earlier this month, would have stopped state and local governments from issuing permits for data centers with electric loads of 20 megawatts or more until November 2027, giving the state time to study their effects.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/mills-veto-data-center-moratorium

South Dakota Supreme Court rules officer names can be kept secret
Two police officers involved in a shootout with a suspect in 2024 can have their names protected from public view to prevent someone from potentially locating or harassing the officer or their families, according to a ruling Thursday by the South Dakota Supreme Court that reversed a lower court’s decision. Justices ruled that Marsy’s Law, a state constitutional amendment approved by South Dakota voters Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna!

Mandelson, May elections, and the markets: Pressures pile up for Starmer
In these troubled times, spare a thought for poor old Keir Starmer. Britain’s hapless Prime Minister can’t catch a break Everyone – and everything – seems to be lining up against him. And events, at home and abroad, are unlikely to offer any respite. Amongst voters, Starmer is the most unpopular PM in recent history – as will no doubt be seen in the upcoming May elections. The Labour leader and his party are on course to receive a drubbing in contests for the Scottish and Welsh devolved parliaments, and in local councils. But it is not only the electorate who, rightly, despise Starmer. Nobody is happy with the current occupant of Number 10. Across the pond, Donald Trump is also fuming about the uselessness of his British counterpart. Angered by the UK government’s refusal to join his disastrous war on Iran, the American President has repeatedly lashed out at Starmer: remarking that the Labour Prime Minister is “no Winston Churchill”, and threatening to tear up Britain’s trade deal with the USA, if Washington’s normally obedient poodle does not yield to his master’s call. Of course, Starmer’s stance towards Trump’s war has nothing to do with political principles, and everything to do with political expediency. The Labour leader has repeatedly demonstrated that he is happy to grovel and fawn before his boss in the White House. But with the British public in no mood for an Iraq 2.0, Zack Polanski’s Greens breathing down his neck, and elections approaching, Starmer is calculating that a few anti-Trump noises and a dash of feigned defiance might play well with voters and backbench MPs alike.
https://communist.red/mandelson-may-elections-and-the-markets-pressures-pile-up-for-starmer/

Rizospastis organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Greece: On Zyuganov’s outrageous statement and its coverage by the Greek bourgeois media
Various bourgeois media outlets in our country did not conceal their satisfaction, tinged with a dose of irony, at the recent provocative statement by Gennady Zyuganov, Chairman of the Central Commitee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF), who declared from the floor of the Russian parliament that a new 1917 —that is, a nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The evilness of zionists never ceases to surprise me



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New conspiracy theory just dropped babe. Apparently, the southern poverty law center has been funding right wing extremist groups to make right look bad. But apparently those dastardly globalists who of course are funding the antifa super soldiers, are also funding the hate groups that antifa are fighting for some reason.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/04/21/doj-southern-poverty-law-center-indictment-extremist.html
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>Southern Poverty Law Center
is that one of the ziorat ngos? i lost track

>>2791300
You're thinking of the ADL

Chad Libtard Giving One Trillion Dollar To Aryan Brotherhood Terrorist To Justify It's Existence…. groyper

>>2791296
It's kinda funny that people who deny the holocaust are the ones getting accused of being behind conspiracies in Charlottesville. It they were a bit more self aware and way less arrogant they would probably reflect on this accusation, but except I guarantee they are just gonna blame the jews and move on. The only sad part is that there is a few anons here who could reflect on this with own beliefs.

>>2791989
And to add on too it, every political side has its own conspiracies theories to explain the failures of there political movement instead of confronting it head on through self reflection.



 

Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?
I took it back in 2021 (two doses) and I haven't had any known side effects, neither have anyone else I knew who took it. But all the time I hear about how it's causing people to have heart attacks/strokes and it's gonna kill everyone. I'm already a massively paranoid person, I was iffy on the vax when it came out but all I kept hearing was that covid was gonna kill everyone. It's getting to the point where I can't even sleep well because every waking moment, I'm terrified I'm just gonna drop dead.
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>But all the time I hear about how it's causing people to have heart attacks/strokes and it's gonna kill everyone.
i've only heard this of the AZ vaccine which isn't the mRNA vaccines, ironically i took the AZ one because as a thirdie i couldn't get to choose which vaccine to use. by now covid vaccines should be perfectly safe and at least your old folks should be taking them together with flu shots, anyway this profound distrust of vaccines means that the US is the only first world country that still gets covid waves, it's basically a non-issue anywhere else.

>>2791711
You have to actually value human life for that to matter, meaning being a liberal

>>2791665
>massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.

No, there isn't
>massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.

>>2791665
>>2791665
>that there is still overall a massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.

>>2791665
>that there is still overall a massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.

>>2747173
I didn't take the shot. Got covid twice 2 years apart. Mild symptoms similar to a cold but no fever. Only thing I miss is food used to taste and smell better. Still happy I didn't take the shot. Everyone I know who took it regrets it. Side effects were weird: back pain, persistent numbness of arms, tachycardia etc. A couple people I know died out of nowhere. Nobody I know that didn't take it wishes that they took it. Only person I personally know that died of covid was a lady with a bad heart and she was single dosed back in like 2022.



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Bukharin was one of the best bolsheviks who played a major role during the October revolution and was admired by Lenin. He was also a friend of Stalin.
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its one thing to recognize the potential in the peasantry and the need to uplift through proletarianization and another to call for their enrichment and continued status in a post revolutionary world


>>2773538
this is exactly the point. Behind the creation of the socialism in one country theoretical line the undoubtedly worst crime stalin ever did was the creation of the polish anti communist, some of the most insufferable specimens

>>2773377
>>2773354
Be real what are they gonna do in prison? it's not like the big dzerzh or trotsky who got released after a while of rotting inside (major fuckup by the whites fr). They can't dig themselves out with spoons or some shit.

>>2790888
>peasant worshippers
Bad cope but even if this is true, it just shows peasant worshipers>marxists

Did Stalin actually contribute on the creation of Israel?



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>>2755521
>not even willing to look good in a symbolic vote for soft power purposes
if you put this in fiction they would say it was over the top, too on the nose, cartoonish
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>>2757124
No its when you try to claim a certain historical event as being the worst atrocity ever in human history forming a hierarchy of opression and then trying to use that to leveradge monetary benefits to for your ethnic groups personal gain.

>>2756959
Or even something that UK/France vetoed? It's almost always the US

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>>2756803
No, its all a shame. The U.S can pratically veto anything, even at a majority level. I wish they just disband.

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Here are some comically evil UN Vetos



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>Kanye West should never have been invited to headline Wireless.

>This government stands firmly with the Jewish community, and we will not stop in our fight to confront and defeat the poison of antisemitism.


>We will always take the action necessary to protect the public and uphold our values.


https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2041515702855643347

Well that's one 'American boy' we don't want in this country.
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In the abstract the falklanders should be British but in a greater-good sense Britain should lose them. Thatcher keeping the Falklands but giving away Hong Kong should be regarded as the rankest treachery in our history and instead she's feted by our should-be nationalists.

She is the greatest triumph of style over substance, the fullest vindication of politics as personality test over ideology or class interest: loved by cunts who, if they really believed their cunt ideas, would hate her.

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>>2791751
I think people need to come to terms that the fact that TERFs are heavily into neoliberalism and Zionism isn’t any coincidence, because let’s face it:

TERF-ism isn’t just the end result of embittered British middle & upper-class of the Gen X cohort turning into gammons because white female idpol is a sacred cow in Albion as well as resentment against younger leftists that makes them feel “left behind” due to their inability to question their priors what with being old and all that, or white middle class foids turning into such radlibs that they now are the far-right’s white women caucus, but also it’s also the end-product of a top-down agenda by plutocrats in Britain to push for Neo-Victorian prudishness and soft-Zionism under the skin suit of “women’s rights”. As shown by how radfems have been silent on the plight of Palestinian and Lebanese and Iranian women who suffer under the genocidal tyranny of Israel over west Asia, the overturning of Roe v Wade, the suffering of working-class women under the capitalist regime, and the killing of Renee Good at the hands of the ICE Gestapo, TERF-ism much like “radical feminism” are just different strands of the same messed up radlib ailment and idpol brainrot, and so it’s natural that they turn into reactionaries.

Not surprising as radfems emerged out of the rejection of both liberal and Marxist frameworks for women’s rights.

>>2791793
It should also be noted that Glinner isn’t some fringe crackpot, considering how he is one of the leading TERF figures in the UK and Ireland as well as having connections with Alamo’s every TERF in the British isles.


>>2791793
I have to defend bro liberalism here. Say what you will about market fetishists, they're not TERFs. If a trans person has money, the neoliberal answer is that the state should let them do whatever they want. Not a liberationist perspective by any means, but you can see how someone can come to it without an underlying personality disorder or lifetime of petty resentments.



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