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I know it. I know. It had already been discussed before. But hold up, just a darn minute. You're spamming the thread with nonsense, etc., but I really want to know what's the ultimate answer to the trolley problems. Please, enlighten me. Is it really just like the picrel? We can actually stop the lever without any risk at all?
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>>1891236
Turning 360 degrees and walking away from the autistic asking you to pull the lever is an intuitve answer to a child. I really do not understand why this nonsense question is a big important thing for americans. it is utterly silly.

>>1894969
Of course you can refuse anything.
I guess there is two kinds of people. Those that think they are part of the "situation" and those that don't. In this way you can tell a lot about people.

>>1891225
>the question isn't about anything
>It's a made up question

It's about the moral weight of action vs inaction and whether those are the same thing you fucking retard, whether pushing the lever is or isn't difficult to do is completely irrelevant to the point of the question

What even

Yes.
Polite sage.



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Is there a reason anarchists are more tolerant of maoists, especially as of late compared to other marxist-leninist lineages? I see this a lot more out of anarchists were they shit talk marxism leninism in general less and less especially maoism in particularly.
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>>1922158
Explain how China is socialist if it has markets.

>>1922165
it's socialist because it has socialists in power. shrimple as

>>1922158
>2024
<Still referencing your emotional support of countries you’ve never even been to over discussing anything you’ve ever done irl
Never change MLs, never change

>>1922174
>identity politics, that's how

They're both clowns



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I know /leftypol/ has historically disdained and liberal identity politics in general, but is there an actual materialist explanation of why men who embody (or more likely, want to embody) hypermasculinity and masculine-coded hobbies like weightlifting, MMA, motorcycles, etc. end up on the political right?
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>>1890209
i get the impression that they are decent coders, like isn't the guy behind zig a massive rightiod?

>>1890212
i think the type mentioned by OP is more the bro rogan meathead or biker type than reactionary/libertarian tech nerd blogging about thomas carlyle or whatever

>>1886150
This is wrong, you can find affordable gyms almost everywhere, if you are in the US you can get a Planet Fitness membership for like 10 dollars a month.

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Being right-wing is entirely based in phallic heterosexual masculinity

>>1890477
and the left wing on femininity.
Well, that's not exactly wrong.



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What is the marxist explanation, that western countries are mass importing immigrants, but not countries like China and Russia? Shouldn't a socialist state like China actually import the world proletariat into their country?
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>>1898127
>not russia
wot. russia takes in a shit ton of central asian migrants, it's just not reported in the west or goes under the radar in russia too

>>1898499
also being able to draw on technical expertise and capital from chinese diaspora from singapore, hong kong, taiwan etc.

>>1903722
its over

>>1902918
breeding and bleeching program bro i told you guys to start advertisin it to everyone outside the left but none of you do it

More schizo shit



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Imagine being such a fucking dickless CUCK that when your liberal centrist coalition gets publically ass raped by the Fascist Right you justified surpressing the left for decades to keep out of power you decide to bend over for a second fucking helping, to give them complete control of the nation even faster then they otherwise would get it.
Like God DAMN Macron is a fucking BITCH.
Fucking absolute gay cock sucker for the far right he spent his entire career defining himself in opposition to:
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-european-election-results-2024-emmanuel-macron-dissolve-parliament-france/
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>>1887430
reminder: french liberals almost universally supported Hitler and/or the Vichy regime in the 1940s.

C'est fini

>>1887430
If your problem with Macron is that he forced peoploe to lockdown and get the vaccine, you are a retard.

Apologize

>>1935116
for ? far right have never been so strong institutionally thanks to him



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Be more gentle and patient when educating your working class comrades

Ludwig Wittgenstein (whether you like him or not is besides the point) was a philosopher who talked about something called "language-games." He meant this in a similar way to different types of games we play, like board games, sports, or war games.

His idea was that words and sentences get their meaning from how we use them and the context in which we use them. For example, the word "water" can be used in different ways and have different meanings depending on the situation. It could be a request for someone to get you water, a warning that the water is poisoned, or even a secret code.

So, according to Wittgenstein, language is like a game where the rules are made up of how we use words and sentences, and the meaning comes from playing the game and following those rules.

People often get confused and frustrated when they talk about different things but use the same words. This is like playing a game with someone, but you each think you're playing a different game.

Imagine you and your friend are playing a game of cards. You think you're playing a game where the goal is to get the highest number, but your friend thinks it's a game where you want the lowest number. You both keep playing and arguing about who's winning, but you're never going to agree because you're playing by different rules.

This happens a lot in conversations and arguments. We use the same words but mean different things, or we think we're talking about the same idea but we're actually not. This can lead to unproductive arguments where no one understands each other and everyone gets frustrated.

The key to avoiding this is to make sure we understand each other before we start arguing or discussing something in depth. We need to clarify what we mean by certain words and ideas, and be open to learning that someone else might use those words differently. That way, we're all playing by the same rules and can have a more meaningful conversation.
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>>1921282
lmao read Lacan faggot (but I agree with the initial sentiment)


>>1925749
>the united states is going through its century of humiliation!
Inshallah

>>1925823
It's probably on the whole a necessary element of developing communism.
Nowhere exalted has gone communist.




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Why are most people scared of communism when It would benefict everybody but the 0.1% of mankind? Are we doing something wrong?
<inb4 burgeois propaganda
Lazy answer
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>>1932374
>I need other people to think euro women are desirable
Stfu potato boy

>>1931969
go ahead with dogmaticly repeating the same old ideas from 100 years ago if you want so badly, see how far it gets you

>>1880026
>Nationalists like hiding behind the red banner and alienate everybody for not being a spicy flavoured chinlet.
>Thats it.
There seems to be a lot of communists on the internet who view Nazis as recruiting from the same pool of people as the communists want to recruit from, and then that influences how they talk and present themselves. I think this contributes to the view among normies that communists and Nazis are similar, or have more in common with each other than they do liberals.

>>1933211
meds.

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>>1932366
hahaha



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right wingers often claim that they are going to "out breed" the left.
>Charlie Kirk: Celebrating all the moms at our Young Women’s Leadership Summit this weekend. We’re going to win either now or later, when we outbreed the left!
<Chaya Raichik: I come from a family of 8. I plan to have a lot of kids. We’re going to outbreed the Left. Then we’re gonna homeschool or send our kids to private school so they can’t be groomed into becoming activists for leftist causes.
>Michael Knowles: there are two ways to beat the left: you can outargue them or you can outbreed them.
So leftypol will this work? Can the right simply OUTBREED the left and save capitalism forever and ever?
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>>1885938
Rightists haven't read the history of the holy roman empire or played crusader kings. If you have many children and succession laws in your realm don't transfer all assets to one of them, your dynasty will shortly perish. Based ottoman sultans just killed all their brothers legally, that's how their realm was secured for centuries to come.

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>>1893421
>rightoids think war is humans vs. orcs
>rightoids think reproduction is dr. evil and mini me

lmfao

>>1894647
Also, real trads keep it in the family, just sayin. These uppity merchant larpers will never be trad, capital requires constant revolutionizing of all areas of life

>>1894647
>Rightists haven't read the history of the holy roman empire or played crusader kings. If you have many children and succession laws in your realm don't transfer all assets to one of them, your dynasty will shortly perish. Based ottoman sultans just killed all their brothers legally, that's how their realm was secured for centuries to come.
sounds like turchins idea of elite overproduction

No



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Redpill me on these mates. Why their crews are like 90% crackers? Why they work so uncritically with Israel in the Mediterranean?
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>>1894597
Just finished nuking your mom so good the aliens gave me communism as a reward

>>1894603
i'd be down, i imagine even virtual attatcks on the digital-infastructure on the vessels could be feasible. also, if we cant do no direct action, we could develop a group amongst ourselves to pool funds to employ pirates in the meditternean to enact our biddin.

>>1894592
Not all questions are good questions and even less are worthy of a thread, which is why we have a thread called:
>QTDDTOT/ - Questions that don't need their own thread
>Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.
>>296564

>>1894603
ships at sea are a not reachable, but coordination against the ships at port is very viable

they're trash



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Why do Rightoids hate Confucianism but worship Hegel when their philosophies are the exact same in practice?
> The state must enforce a strict moral code or else society will collapse
> True freedom and happiness is achieved through serving society with an ethical lifestyle.
> The human spirit is developed through strict adherence to social virtues
> The world is connected as one greater spiritual existence therefore happiness is achieved through social harmony
> Traditional family values are the foundation of society
> Moral education must be enforced on the people to develop a functioning of mutual respect
> Passive Dialectical Rectification of traditions is the only way to advance society

Is it really just Orientalism or is something greater at play here?
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I don't think I've ever seen right-wingers online ever talk in depth about Confucius. In fact, the only time I've seen him explicitly mentioned by a right-wing eceleb was a video Keith Woods made about top 25 right-wing thinkers, where he included Confucius.

And for Hegel, yes he is right-wing but he isn't super right-wing either. Online rightists will pick countless other right-wing intellectuals before choosing Hegel. I think part of the reason for this is that Hegel got coopted by the left and part of why that was easy for leftists to do is that both them and Hegel subscribe to Whig history. To them society is still reaching its ultimate stage (Marxists' end of class struggle as the driving force of human history aka communism) but Hegel believed in a form of Whig history too. For Hegel, society was crappy and kept improving until reaching the apex of civilization which for him was 19th century Germany. And that civilization is not bad by any stretch at all, I'll take that over 21st century anywhere but it's still progressive and influenced heavily by the Enlightenment. To me human civilization peaked in 13th century France or Western Europe if I'm being more generous.

>>1889564
Progress to hegel is more ambiguous. To hegel history is contingency until the enlightenment/modernity, where Reason gives meaning to history in the same instance that it reaches its end. Reason is the secret to History that succeeds by accident, but now that it has come alive, it seeks self-consciousness.
Here Reason to marx and engels is the characreristic motif of the bourgeois revolution, which is paired with capitalist production.
So Reason is Capital in its ability to reproduce its conditions of civilisation.
The limit of hegel is not being able to peer beyond the bourgeois veil, where to him the leaders of the world are an enlightened elite, while to marx it is the "real movement" of the majority which comes into self-consciousness.
progress to hegel is progress toward the same dialectical structure of the Absolute Idea by sublation. History is the repetition of ignorance until the world-spirit arrives - which marx also identifies with the global character of capital, beginning in the british and dutch mercantile empires that eventually developed into liberalism. So hegel's limit is his own historicity, since he could not see another possibility

>>1889570
Hey anon my cock is getting all floppy without that stimulation you promised

>>1889571
I would never promise anything good

Trash



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