/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2600880
Is that Fidel Castro?

>>2571465
Manufacturing consent is the only useful work of his imo and even then there are other leftists that essentially say the same thing. Chomsky always rubbed me the wrong the way for how intertwined he was with the bourgeoisie.
Perhaps I'm being romantic but the best leftist philosophers either partake in revolutionary activity or lose their minds and commit suicide from the pressure of living in a capitalist society and not being able to do anything about it, ~Mark Fisher, Debord, etc

>>2570863
Lula made a "pact with the devil" (think high-finance, tech, WEF-types) and that's how he got out of prison and became the new president of Brazil while Bolsonaro was arrested. He puts up a facade of leftism, but Brazil is increasingly becoming a dictatorship controlled by financial elites in the Avenida Paulista and Wall-Street, with the judiciary and legislative serving as the actual administrators. The Brazillian Presidency is a symbolic/ceremonial role a this point.

>>2600880
FIDEL NO

>>2634542
>This is like saying a gang is fundamentally different if a mob boss gives some bonuses to his crew instead of just killing them if they disobey.
That is a pretty big difference actually since a gang boss that earns the respect and support of his crew is going to have a much better chance of keeping it together and building a successful criminal enterprise than one who behaves like a cartoon villain. If the US goes ahead with forced annexation of Greenland it would fundamentally change the balance of power and could dissolve the transatlantic alliance. People need to understand the difference between hegemony and naked force, because it does matter for the strength and structural integrity of a geopolitical coalition and thus world history.

>>2635028
>waiter, waiter! more dead proletarians please!!
iron felix told me that is the only way to get the proletariat to do something so

Trump is gonna make an offer Denmark can't refuse.

It would be crazy if Trump bombed Greenland - white solidarity and all of that.

He's gonna get it and euros won't do anything about it.

Prediction: Greenland will be annexed but NATO will unfortunately live because eurocucks gonna cuck.

Also:

>The United States' plans to annex Greenland may only surprise at first glance and lead to the mistaken belief that these are merely extravagant remarks by President Trump. In fact, the U.S. had such plans as early as the 1860s, when the administration considered annexing Greenland and Iceland, but the idea lacked congressional support at the time. In 1910, a trilateral deal was prepared to exchange territories between the U.S., Germany, and Denmark, which would have granted Greenland to the United States, but the agreement ultimately fell through. During World War II, the U.S. established military bases in Greenland, and after the war, it offered to purchase the island from Denmark. In summary, the United States has serious plans regarding Greenland. These plans have deep historical roots, and the U.S. will continue to systematically advance its geopolitical, military-political, and economic interests in the Arctic.
- Vladimir Putin

>>2637025
What you need to realize is that Putin and his cronies are bourg first, capitalist second, and porky third, and then care about russia as a very distant fourth.

They probably think the situation would allow them to finally be accepted into the western haute bourg club of neolib ghouls instead of being treated like pariahs for being russian orcs.
They're obviously wrong of course, but that's the mindset.

>>2413718
>>2413718
Obvious false flagging
Well, and
> The part with upvotes and downvotes was cut off

>>2412899
>Former fash are a real phenomenon. Not even that rare of one. Vidrel has a few recounts. There are also many people on /leftypol/ and even Hexbear who are openly former rightoids. So I don't think this idea is misplaced. A problem is that it's not easy to deradicalize someone at all.
It's not easy to "deradicalize"*1 as an individual person. If a Socialist movement is able to build up its own institution that can literally socialize these people back into broader society, it wouldn't be as difficult.

*1: The emphasis on "deradicalization" is frustrating. On one hand, talking somebody out of being a Nazi and at least staying out of the fucking way is obviously better than nothing, but it's merely the preferable bottom line. On the other hand, the problem with deradicalization is that it implicitly requires convincing people that the status quo is fundamentally okay, or at least satisfactory enough to look away from the very things those Far-Right groups appeal to "noticing" and claiming to have an answer for. Ideally these people would be re-radicalized into being Communists.

>>2413173
Conditionally this. If any rank-and-file members are positively confirmed to have physically hurt people, they should be held accountable according to the degree of harm dealt. Otherwise the overwhelming majority of the organizers–those who run and fund those groups–are richer, or just more well-off people

>>2575382
Okay but what song is that?

>>2650722
Spamming CP and gore is how practically every raid on imageboards in 2000s and early 2010s went. Only difference is the oldfags used to pick right-leaning communities and nusois go after minorities, ethnics, women and leftists.

>6 years old obscure dying image board still lives rent free in leftypols head
Are we for real?

>>2658089
No i just don't like spam about how yanks are all evil little treatlers or whatever. Half the people spamming it probably picked it up from ecelebs

>>2658084
pictured here (You) and the mods rn

>>2658099
kys yankee-loving faggot

Nothing of value is being said in this thread, no wonder it got saged, it's just virtue signalling for pseudo-radical petit-edgelords.
t. not even a yank, I will never visit the US

>>2656967
>>2656965
>>2658158
Leftychan would definitely be a better fit

>>2656823
Going to be another crackdown on the alphabet mafia in the future

>>2657697
No that's not

>>2657960
This has happened in the West since the 1970s, China is in their 1970s… in the 2020s

Aren't the birthrates pitiful in the entire world except for Africa thoughbeit

>>2657966
Yea, the future is Black Maoism, unironically

>>2634626
any cooperatives willing to excessively exploit themselves,and even then they can't just have turn over to get rid of the workers that no longer have anything to squeeze from

the type of industry or place doesn't matter,since in the real world managers (ie,people employed by the "leader")are the one commanding those structures,so what's the real difference ?

and like the other said,the inevitability of capital consolidation happens because of the rate of profit declining,and even if it's steady,it's FAR from having killed small bussiness entirely

Huawei, one of the world's largest Worker-Owned-Cooperatives.

>>2654233
Half of its employees are foreigners with no right to participate in collective ownership.

>>2654251
Chat is this true?

>>2634626
Cooperatives have lower agency costs (no absentee owners extracting value), higher trust and information flow, longer planning horizons, willingness to operate at lower but steadier margins, resistance to enshittification and short-term extraction.

These advantages compound in certain industries. Cooperatives consistently are able to compete in agriculture, utilities, infrastructure, natural monopolies. Even in finance you have credit unions which are basically the banking version of a cooperative.

>>2656926
>the decay of unipolarity is a step forward.
Where is teh proofs?

I just think multipolarity will happen at some point as a matter of fact and we need to plan around it, not that it is preferable to struggle to bring it about, as if we can influence policy that much anyway at this point.

>Stalin was not a diplomat of the status quo
Say that again

>>2656968
Do you believe unipolarity exists?

>>2656992
Never existed

What if there were anonymous shitposters on leftypol that did praxis
But didn't brag about it or ask for donations

>>2657346
Well let's face it man, there's only so many reasons you wouldn't
>You don't like attention and keep a low profile. Possibly autistic and prob aren't a serious threat to the system
>You're a pussy. You don't wanna risk being incriminated for wrong think let alone wrong action, thereby keep a low profile and while that might be smart short term, it also means you are the easiest to compromise

It is natural to the human condition to want benefit. Be it physical benefit of donations or higher yearnings like ego boosts and praise.

Pic very related because let's say you were face to face with this gorgeous bitch whose wrong about everything.
>She knows you steal from Target. Scalping those pokemon cards to sell as singles, free money for the revolution and by revolution I mean you can pay your bills
>Assuming she doesn't just scream to garner mob attention over what's barely a misdemeanor, she won't sleep with you at the very least
>Sad… That's prime rib cunny lost to ideology. Zizak/Jesus wept.
>You know what would make you feel better? A Paypal donation to the ACP, or your discord channel full of other nerds saying she's a libshit and all the other leftists have a septum theory of value and maybe one of them will suck your peepee
>I mean you could just lie but that doesn't mean you gonna impregnate. Lying will just guarantee she leaves you alone. IE you're the coward or the autist.
>To take the lie further just for her delightful loins would be a detriment to you because you can only lie for so long because holy shit she's dumb. You'll either break and punch her or end up lying to yourself and find yourself becoming the reactionary.
>What ever will you do Che Guevara?

They're probably feds trying to cripple the left by making it completely irrelevant and out of touch.

>>2657093
>the time it will take to create the envisioned society is literally multiple lifetimes, ie even if revolution happened tomorrow, the task of creating the society we want doesn't end, if anything, that's when it really begins
yes i keep telling that to the puritanical dumbasses on here. Let's read some theory that says the same thing:

<What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm


<Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism, 1847

<To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.

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>>2657093
>"sex work won't exist, so there's no need to engage with it"
>"small businesses won't exist so engaging with them is wrong"
>"drugs will be banned under communism, so engaging with the people who consume them is wrong"
Boring, but I'll bite since I don't feel like grading papers right now:
Who says this?!
I swear half of the posts on this site sound like AI hallucinations for how completely disconnected they are from what literally anyone is saying. Or hell, what do you even mean by "engaging" anyways. Do you mean recruiting from those segments, adopting their ideas, struggling with them, or just talking with them? The weaselly way you use that word reflects the audacious dishonesty of this entire strawman "argument".

Sex work is inherently coercive and must be abolished. It's not a career, it's rape. Sex workers are lumpen and their right to life and safety should be defended, women's councils should be formed and armed to enforce this violently if need be, while pimps and Johns should be lynched.
The petty bourgeoisie cannot be relied on to be anything approaching a revolutionary class as a whole, especially in first world settler colonial contexts where their entire way of life relies on imperialism. Some few individuals in this class might place politics first and commit class suicide, but this isn't a behavior that can be relied on to be carried out with any kind of mass consistency. You cannot sweet talk a small business owner into supporting the revolution in any genuine way while remaining in their class position. Struggle where you can, but never get your hopes up.
Lastly, I don't think there's ever been a consistent communist position on drugs beyond "the masses should be clear-headed while decisions need to be made". I certainly don't know of anyone who has advocated that communists not "engage" with anyone who partakes in drug usage, especially since that's not an internally cohesive group in any meaningful way when you investigate it. What drugs are done is different along class lines, but drug usage has been shown to be a pretty universal practice across all class strata, maybe somewhat more prevalent among the bourgeois classes. It would be obviously meaningPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

US justice department subpoenas Minnesota Democrats accused of impeding ICE efforts
A copy of a subpoena to the office of the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frey, obtained by the Guardian, requests guidance and policies related to immigration enforcement in Minnesota since last year. It also requests communication regarding those policies with other state agencies, as well as documents related to “hindering, doxxing, identifying, or surveilling immigration officers”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/20/minnesota-democrats-subpoenas-justice-department

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani and US Sen. Bernie Sanders rally with nurses on ninth day of strike
The democratic socialists, speaking to a boisterous crowd of nurses in front of Mount Sinai West on the Upper West Side, called on hospital executives to return to the negotiating table to resolve the contract impasse that prompted some 15,000 nurses to walk off the job last week.
https://apnews.com/article/nursing-strike-new-york-bernie-sanders-mayor-mamdani-c6a23222b6275c553e78d033994a5a79

‘It Has to Stop’: Minnesota Police Chief Says Off-Duty Cops Racially Profiled by ICE
“In Brooklyn Park, one particular officer who shared her story with me was stopped as she passed ICE going down the roadway,” Bruley continued. “They demanded her paperwork, [but] she is a US citizen, and clearly would not have any paperwork. When she became concerned about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated she pulled out her phone in an attempt to record the incident. The phone was knocked out of her hands.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-racial-profiling

ICE arrests elderly, underdressed Hmong-American man inside his St. Paul home over mistaken identity, family says
The family of the man taken from the home, Chongly Scott Thao, says it was a case of mistaken identity. In an online fundraiser, they say ICE agents broke down the door, entered with weapons drawnPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

What lies ahead in 2026?
As 2026 gets underway, British capitalism is entering another year in its long-running decline and disarray. This isn’t just a rough patch. Economic weakness, institutional decay, and social malaise are converging. Together they point to a system that has reached its limits. As the management committee of this broken system, the Starmer government is hated. But the anger goes deeper than just the government. The authority of Britain’s major institutions has collapsed. The police, the monarchy, the BBC, the courts, Parliament itself – none command any real respect. What’s striking is that the distrust comes from the left and right. The right sees ‘two-tier policing’ and a biased media; the left sees repression and corruption. All see the economic crisis and falling living standards. And increasing numbers draw the conclusion that these institutions are not neutral, competent, or legitimate. Westminster’s two-party system is now finished. Historically, Britain’s electoral system produced stable governments by rotating power between two large parties that could both, when push came to shove, be trusted to defend the interests of British capitalism. That arrangement is now breaking down.
https://communist.red/what-lies-ahead-in-2026/

“Bolivia Is Not for Sale”
“Fuerza, fuerza, fuerza! Fuerza, compañeros!” bellowed a man in a miner’s helmet into a megaphone. Marching through the sun-drenched streets in the haze of noisy firecrackers, thousands of miners, workers, peasants, civil society associations, and indigenous organizations in Bolivia descended on the city of La Paz earlier this month in the biggest social mobilization in at least five years. Beyond the city, road blockades led by union locals brought transport to a near standstill across the country. In the streets, the mantra was “Bolivia no se vende” (Bolivia is not for sale). The mass protests against the executive decree of newly elected Rodrigo Paz’s conservative government lasted nearly a month. While presented as the elimination of the fuel subsidy, which keeps gasoline prices artificially low, Decree 5503 would have also privatized key natural resources and implemented a wide range of austerity measures. The impressive display of workers’ might, combined with an effective negotiation strategy by the traPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2657420
even fucking CNN states it but people here still believe communism is democratic so its *gotta* be about "the majority"

>muh haz
idk how that retard can correctly point out skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles and then say shit like "uhhh baristas arent proles bc uhhhhhhh purple hair"

There is no cohesive observable ideological core for the MIGA movement. It's a tool to control the cattle.
On top it's imperialism, on the bottom the tune changes every 5 minutes. One second it's "globalism sucks", the second "we invaded a country and kidnapped its president, and we're supporting regime change on the other side of the world, and we're sending more weapons to Israel"

>>2657422
>even fucking CNN states it
Maybe, just maybe, the fact that you agree with CNN, the libest of all lib outlets, that working class = white people without four year degrees, is a sign that you don't actually know shit about Marxian class relations and should probably study up.

>skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles
The labor aristocracy is still a segment of the proletariat. A programmer might have a higher quality of life than a factory worker, but at a fundamental level, they're both exploited by the bourgeois in the exact same way. Working class, in the context of Marxian economics, does not mean "poor person", it means anyone who provides a product or a service to an employer who then profits off said good or service. Poverty is an effect of this relationship, not a cause, and starts affecting more and more people further up the pecking order the more emboldened the bourgeois becomes and the further capitalism advaces.

>>2657420
why do you think the working class is comprised exclusively of white people

>>2657464
I don't. CNN sure does though.