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The forest cover across most of the world has expanded greatly the last several decades. The worst ecological disasters have happened in communist countries and Eastern Bloc Europe, and continue to happen in third world countries where governments exert enormous control over markets. Market oriented societies do the best at protecting their environment.
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>>2464534
>source: I made it the fuck up

>>2463632
>communism is when markets dont fit my bourgeois ideal of freedom or whatever
kill yourself /pol/tard

and of course the thread is leftards saying "ermmm sweetie my epic AES state did some posturing" or w/e

>>2463825
It's all also just forest designed to be cut down later, planted with only a single tree species. All the biodiversity gone.

Alexa, who's the president of Brazil?

>>2464891
>leftards
You are incredibly easy to identify



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Fact checking facts about "russification" of Finland

1. Hurr durr Nicholas 2 wanted to turn everyone into Russians.
False: He wanted to liberate Finnish people from swedish aristocracy
>Nicholas II said that the core of Finland’s problem was that "the Swedes are striving to regain their former dominant position in Finland, misleading a broad section of the people. Against such gentlemen, decisive action had to be taken."
2. Hurr durr bobrikov was a dictator who suppressed free speech.
Misleading: He targeted swedes and their allies who were advocating for separatism and called Finnish and Russian people mongol barbarians and were closely associated with Germany which posed a security risk
>Of the 116 newspapers published between 1899–1905, 46 (39.7%) were temporarily suspended and 26 (22.4%) permanently shut down. The language distribution of all newspapers published was as follows: 78 Finnish-language (67.2%) and 38 Swedish-language (32.8%). Although most of the suspended papers were Finnish, the relative share of Swedish-language papers was greater. Of all Swedish-language papers during this period, 30% were permanently closed and 52.6% suspended temporarily, whereas the corresponding figures for Finnish-language papers were 19.2% and 33.3%. In the early phase of mass closures, attention was directed especially at Swedish-language papers, six of which were shut down in 1900, while only one Finnish-language paper was closed.
>In Kotka and Käkisalmi, the closures carried out by the governor-general strengthened the position of the Old Finnish press.
>Arbetaren and, outside Helsinki, Länsi-Suomen Työmies, Kansan Lehti, and Itä-Suomen Työmies did not receive a single warning from Bobrikov throughout the entire period, nor were they ever shut down. It appears that political censorship from Russia had little effect on the workers’ press.

3. Hurr durr muh political repression, muh exiles to Siberia
Misleading: The Finnish government couldn't carry out it's duties of protecting it's citizens and was notorious for hiding terrorists like Lenin and letting murderers go free. Bobrikov had to manually exile criminals because it was the only option left. For example a governor of Vyborg was shot and the assassin got only 3 years in prison and his co-conspirators got away with fine (Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2464379
You got driven off /int/ and now you're here. Seek help.

>>2464698
The Tsars were literally Francophile Germans who lorded over the Russian people on behalf of the City of London banks. A form of western colonialism over Russia. And Multipolaristas recognize this.

>>2465162
>A form of western colonialism over Russia
Russia is western

>>2465209
Russia is a Eurasian state, the only times it solely looked Westward were when it was under Western financial domination (Yeltsin years, Romanov years). True Russian sovereignty means recognizing the differences between the features of Russian civilization, embodied by the Russian peasant Communes, and the features of the Western capitalist Nation-states.

>>2464379
Why do you leftoid live shitting up /int/



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If anyone ever asks what you think neoliberalism is to make you look like an idiot, remember that neoliberalism is just the new setup of regulation after the 70s crisis, all about restoring profitability. It is an economic theory that thinks markets magically self-regulate, meet everyone's needs, use resources perfectly and guarantee jobs for anyone who actually wants to work. That's it.

It's not so much an economic theory as it is a scam; a bunch of rich assholes convinced the world that if you eliminate all regulation and effectively dismantle the government and the rule of law, then the rich will be able to become much richer and this will be great for everyone. In other words, a repeat of the same kind of retarded laissez-faire economics which caused The Great Depression. It's almost like a form of economic nihilism if you think about it and consider how obviously unsustainable it is and how it will inevitably lead to enormous economic inequality and eventual market collapse; it's an ideology designed by rich people who want to be able to get so rich that they destroy civilized society.

Neoliberalism is actually way older than the 1970s. it came from the Walter Lippmann conference which took place in 1938. This was a kind of desperate meeting between liberal intellectuals in Europe, at an age when liberalism was being declared dead due to ongoing depression and the abandonment of liberal economics, with most people either supporting socialism, FDR style welfare capitalism or fascism. and funnily enough you can point out that the term was coined by liberals themselves, not by leftists

>>2464936
Afaik it's always the concrete reforms first and then the ideology to mask it up and pass it off as natural/inevitable/what have you.

>to make you look like an idiot
"I am proud of not knowing what the belief system of my planet has been for the last 50 years" HUMAN DOMESTICATION IS REAL



 

What does leftypol think of Crimethinc?

For context Crimethinc is a decentralized anarchist collective that has been popular since the 90’s. Also no they aren’t a honeypot, albeit the feds have arrested members of the organization so be careful if your at irl meetings.
My personal connection to them is that they are the entire reason I became an anarchist, and have influenced many of my beliefs, and have made me find actual methods of combating capitalism and state oppression individually. And I don’t mean like “individual anarchists” or some punk pretend shit, I mean on actual direct action and organization.
My favourite books from them is Days of War, Nights of love. That book is life-stylist but it’s still a very good read.

But anyways I’m curious what you guys think because I have been a pretty big fan of them for years
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>>2464322 (me)
Honestly, their biggest draw is that they actually know how to boil complicated ideas down in a way that’s readable to an average person who doesn’t have a master’s in philosophy. Marxists could seriously learn from how good they are at communicating a lot of dense ideas in simple language

Useless posers

Houdinist garbage

>>2464329
I find the manifesto very easy to understand.

>>2464273
who cares they haven't been relevant in their own circles for 20 years.
Also /QTDDTOT/.



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Call me a tankie, but i just dont get it how much i read and learn, how the hell is a anarchist [anarcho-syndicalist/anarcho-communist/platformism] federation going to defend itself against bigger and more advance nations such as Russia, America, China, or even the imperialist EU union itself, without a state/main government to organize ?

And especially how would it work on a large scale like Russia, or America again without a state and also on that how would education, healthcare, crime solving, would be managed, plus the continue fight against reactionary forces from inside or outside ?

This just feels childish and foolish to me
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>>2464406
Syria collapsed because of the Syrian Civil War mostly. A similar process of degradation is happening to Israel now, and no amount of cash infusion will fix the internal schisms and the discrediting of the myth that it's somehow a necessary safe haven for jewish people.

>>2464482
before israel collapses, everyone will say it's impossible; but once it collapses, everyone will say it was inevitable

>>2464482
I meant that Israel's invasion of Lebanon and subsequent war with Hezbollah gave the opportunity for HTS to strike down the Assadists, obviously the Syrian civil war was the main factor in the fall of Assad, but before the Gaza war it seemed like he would end up winning it

Israel, as an apartheid state is obviously inherently unstable their collapse will probably happen in the not too far future, but in the current state of affairs, they're winning the wars they're involved in, and if anything, Iran and it's allies have only strenghtened Israel's cohesion in the short term, and given them the perfect opportunity to start genociding the people of Gaza and to grab land from their neighbours.

>>2464485
Yeah but what comes after the collapse?

Are people truly this delusional in believing 7 million Israeli Jews will simply leave?

>>2464497
>Are people truly this delusional in believing 7 million Israeli Jews will simply leave?

1. That won't happen. Maybe like 10% of them will leave at most.

2. If I were Palestinian I wouldn't want Israelis to leave, because by leaving it would entail a massive brain drain. Like it or not but Israelis are highly educated. They have a huge technology sector and healthcare sector. If millions of them left it would be a disaster.

Remember, when the USSR collapsed a lot of Soviet intellectuals, doctors, scientists, and engineers left which is one reason post-Soviet Russia was in shambles. Braindrain is no joke.



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what do you guys think of leon trotsky and his actions, his accomplishments and his fall ?

HARD MODE: DO NOT MENTION ANY OF THE CURRENT OR HISTORICAL PARTIES THAT CLAIMED TO CARRY ON HIS LEGACY AND THEIR SUPER RETARDED GLOWIE FUELED DRAMA WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE RED ARMY GENERAL NOT WHAT THE SLP OR SWP OR WHATEVER OTHER GAY PARTIES ARE OUT THERE
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>>2455102
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> Political shift: After becoming disillusioned with the left, particularly following the murder of a friend by members of the Black Panther Party, Horowitz underwent a major ideological conversion.
lmao this mfer hired the fbi bitch they had to dump in the bay


>>2455940
Yes, Moscow Trials as a coordinated show is a conspiracy theory - geocentrism from your pic. Seeing Moscow Trials for what they were, i.e. defendants crossexaminated into telling on each other and themselves - is heliocentrism

Trotsky was right about most things but I will never ever join the RCI and shill newspapers alongside a bunch of student activists all day.
Trotskyists ruin Trotskyism.

>>2448087
Meh. Had some good theory, and these anons more or less encapsulate what I think of him.
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>>2458830
>>2455480

A man with an extremely polarising legacy, but some solid theory to boot.

He's not some devil, but he's far from an angel of socialism either. Honestly, it's been close to a hundred years. I think it's about time we put down our ice picks and leave him to freeze over.



 

Why is non-interventionism and anti-war sentiment so fringe across the political spectrum? It’s basically only widespread among the far-left and libertarian right.
The far-right and some MAGA folks are “against” interventionism in the Middle East, but they shrug off Trump bombing Iran or Venezuelans. The entire MAGA crowd supported the Iran strikes. Only the far-left and lib-right were against all of these.
This strikes me as odd because non-interventionism is one of the most common-sense policies to have.
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>>2463945
Because national foreign policy is basically impossible to change. Foreign policy is the most iron clad part of any ruling regime and often even persists through revolutions. So dont beat yourself up about it, its one thing to contest domestic policy, but the one thing the elite will really defend like a fortres is their foreign policy.

people think every youtube comment reddit comment or tweet supporting war is from a real person and not from some mossad or CIA cracker. so naturally it becomes "americans just support this because they're all labor aristocrat treatlerites."

They also believe polls are real.

no the imperial core governments have mastered manufacturing consent and inventing reality.


USAnos deep down understand the sort of ordeal that radical change means. Their founding myths reinforce this, as well as the exceptional nature of the great men central to them. Nobody wants to be , or thinks to be those kind of people. AKA nationalism.

So when the propaganda explains every internal crisis and every foreign action of their imperialist shithole as necessary to "maintain their way of life", they quietly acquiesce, look away, hold their noses and look for the accustomed modes of self absolution that so reliably are provided to them, some time later.Or more commonly, join in the blood-lust because the circus is quickly becoming their only access to bread. The absolution will find them either way.

They know that war will never again come to them, or hope. And even if it does, even if the draft is resumed, it would take hundreds of thousands of dead yankees before they turned their struggle inwards. This time around they have everything to lose. And they will fight accordingly.

>>2464018
This, the US since the very start has been made for imperialism and exploiting foreign workers, even before WW1. (Trail of tears, slave trade, Mexican-American war, Hawaii)



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India investigator files criminal case against tycoon Anil Ambani
Anil, the younger sibling of Asia’s richest man Mukesh Ambani, has business interests that range from power to defence. The State Bank of India (SBI) alleged Anil Ambani and his former telecoms firm Reliance Communications “misappropriated” bank funds by entering into transactions that were in violation of the terms of the loans.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3322947/india-investigator-files-criminal-case-against-tycoon-anil-ambani

Former Sri Lankan president admitted to hospital after arrest
Sri Lanka’s former president was admitted to hospital on Saturday, a day after he was charged with using public funds to finance private international travel, as the government intensified its crackdown on corruption.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/23/sri-lanka-former-president-ranil-wickremesinghe-admitted-to-hospital-arrest-charges

Taiwanese opposition survives another recall vote, and referendum on nuclear power fails
Voters favored a return to nuclear power by an almost three-to-one margin, but the total in favor fell short of a threshold of 25% of eligible voters, or about 5 million votes, needed for approval.
https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-recall-vote-nuclear-referendum-2efa596845858a7e4bd89e0c23af39b8

Tel Aviv Police Ban Protest Against Gaza War After Demanding Organizers Cap Attendance
Police previously tried to prevent anti-war protests in April, telling organizers they were forbidden from waving signs depicting hostages, bearing the inscription 'genocide' or depicting photographs of children who were killed in Gaza
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Thanks News Anon

>>2444671
>newborn removed from Greenlandic mother after ‘parenting competence’ tests
This is genocide, by the way.

>>2444947
You may not like it, but this is what Newgene thought looks like.

THANK YOU BASED NEWS ANON

>>2444671
>Anil Ambani
Adani trying to get rid of a Rival?



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Thread for the discussion, analysis and news regarding the savage and primitive barely contacted North Sentinel Island hunter gatherer people.
Think of it as geopolitics applied to the iron age.

Current population: ≈15 - 500

News:
https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/tribes/sentinelese
https://www.ndtv.com/topic/north-sentinel-island
https://www.hindustantimes.com/topic/north-sentinel-island/news

Latest developments:
-In April 2025, a YouTuber, Mykhailo Viktorovych Polyakov, was arrested after staging an attempt to contact the tribe. He trespassed, left a can of Diet Coke and a coconut, and may face significant prison time.
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>>2462208
The majority of native Andaman Islanders have died out. In the 1850s, the British established an infamous penal colony on the islands, where they deported thousands of people who took part in the 1857 rebellion. The British had a much more violent relationship with the Andamanese than the traders and sailors who occasionally passed through the Islands before them. Those Andamanese who have had extensive contact with British and Indian authorities, as well as the new population of deportees and their descendants, have suffered for this. Their numbers have declined, alcoholism and sexual exploitation have become rife, and there's the reordering of their traditional economy on unequal grounds. Its also likely that the North Sentinelese have fewer resources and are at a material disadvantage compared to other native Andamanese communities, like the Jarawa. It seems like isolationism was more or less a choice and unlike the Jarawa, the North Sentinelese are on an island surrounded by water, effectively cutting them off from incidental contact with outsiders.

>>2463319
thank you

>>2463319
From my research, Sentinelese weren't actually SO isolationist until a string of bad expierences both with bigger Andaman Native tribes and European colonists in 16-19 centuries (or maybe just with European colonists). So their island is not a paradse, but a besieged fortress, and I find idealising or romanticising their lifestyle really disrespectful towards Sentinelese themselves foremost. Even if I admit that "breaking them out" is impossible without risking contamination that could kill them all, and thus shouldn't be attempted.

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>>2463973
Yeah that’s pretty much true. Before British conquest, Andaman natives numbered in the thousands. “Breaking them out” of what? It’s not a prison. They made the choice to live that way. And compared to other Andaman tribes, some of which are definitely going to go extinct in our lifetime, that strategy has worked out for them. The North Sentinalese want to live this way and its working out for them. The Jarawa were very aggressive and isolationist but breaking isolation had harmful effects on them.

This strategy of “fleeing from modernity” isn’t unusual. Millions of people do it. Many communities throughout Asia choose to avoid the state or keep away from outsiders to maintain their lifestyles. It’s pretty common in the highlands of Burma, Vietnam, and Laos, as well as Afghanistan, North Western Pakistan, Tibet, and Iran’s Baluchistan region. The North Sentinelese are an extreme case because they are on a remote island surrounded by water that nobody really needed to visit and they had no reason to leave. J. C. Scott wrote a book on this called The Art of Not Being Governed.

>>2446626
North Sentinelese are foragers, which mean they spend their day doing mostly nothing until they want something to eat or have some task to do. The islands have enough food and water to sustain them. They probably fish, hunt, forage, which means they are active. Their dietary needs probably aren’t lacking, there’s plenty of fish, nuts, fruit, meat, and vegetables. They are probably healthier than the average person ITT and have more free time than all of us.



 

Elbit Systems factory apparently shuttered following Palestine Action campaign
The Guardian visited the site earlier this week and said the property was deserted, with "no staff present aside from a security guard stationed in a vehicle parked outside the premises". The Israeli company, which has drawn criticism for producing weaponry used in the ongoing genocide in Gaza, had held the lease since 2019, with a contract due to run until 2029. Elbit Systems provides around 85 percent of Israel’s drones and land-based military equipment and has played a major role in supplying Israel with weaponry for its genocide in Gaza.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/elbit-systems-factory-shuttered-following-palestine-action-campaign

Police make mass arrests at Palestine Action rally outside UK Parliament
London police have arrested more than 425 protesters during violent clashes at a rally calling on the United Kingdom’s government to lift a ban on the Palestine Action group. Defend Our Juries, the campaign group that organised the rally on Saturday, said about 1,500 people participated in the demonstration outside the UK Parliament in London, risking arrest under terrorism laws.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/6/police-make-mass-arrests-at-palestine-action-rally-outside-uk-parliament
https://archive.ph/Xyfg5

Tear gas fired at thousands of protesters in Serbia demanding free elections and justice
Protesters in Novi Sad on Friday chanted “We want elections,” and “Vucic leave” as they vowed to defend the autonomy of the university. Shielded riot officers initially guarded some of the university buildings but reinforcements later arrived in anti-riot vehicles before marching toward the protesters. The city streets were engulfed in tear gas and smoke from stun grenades and flares as police chased the protesters away from the campus. The blitz police intervention reflects the increasingly tough response from Vucic to the protests. Vucic has refused to schedule a snap parliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Danke newsbaby 🥰

Washington, DC, residents protest against Trump's troop deployment to the city
With Trump vowing crackdowns in other Democratic-led cities as well, he appeared to threaten Chicago with migrant deportations in a social media post with an image that parodied the 1979 Vietnam war movie "Apocalypse Now." Protesters at the "We Are All D.C." march, including undocumented immigrants and supporters of Palestinian statehood, chanted slogans denouncing Trump and carried posters, some of which read, "Trump must go now," "Free DC" and "Resist Tyranny."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/washington-dc-residents-protest-against-trumps-troop-deployment-city-2025-09-06/

U.S. considers banning Iranians from shopping at Costco during U.N. meeting
Potential travel and other restrictions could soon be imposed on the delegations from Iran, Sudan, Zimbabwe and, perhaps surprisingly, Brazil, which has held a traditional place of honor during the high-level leaders gathering at the U.N. General Assembly that begins Sept. 22, according to an internal State Department memo seen by The Associated Press. While the potential restrictions are still under consideration and the circumstances could change, the proposals would be another step in the Trump administration’s crackdown on visas, including a wide-ranging review of those already holding legal permissions to come to the U.S. and those seeking entry to head to the U.N. meeting.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-considers-banning-iranians-shopping-costco-un-meeting-rcna229231

Surveillance, privacy concerns raised in debate over Flock cameras in Oakland
Last year, Governor Gavin Newsom called for installing about 480 cameras. Almost 300 on Oakland surface streets. The remaining to be placed along highways in the East Bay. The goal is to allow Oakland police, CHP and other law enforcement agencies to identify vehicles by more than just the license plate. And, to be able to search for vehicles linked to crimes in real time.
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>>2464019
>Elbit Systems factory apparently shuttered following Palestine Action campaign
BASED BASED BASED ELBIT OUT

LEAKED: Israel Is Considered a "Genocidal, Apartheid Country" Abroad, According to Israel’s Own Research
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs commissioned an American polling firm to perform a sweeping battery of surveys and focus groups, coupled with message-testing, aimed at rehabilitating Israel’s image in both the United States and Europe. The work remains ongoing, but a preliminary report from the firm was leaked to Drop Site News by a source with direct access to it. The work is being performed by Stagwell Global, a firm founded by notorious political operative Mark Penn, who serves as the company’s chairman and CEO. Penn donated $100,000 to AIPAC after October 7, 2023, and his ties to Likud date back to his work on Menachem Begin’s 1981 campaign for prime minister. Stagwell is also on the verge of getting a no-bid contract from the Trump administration to study American attitudes toward vaccines. The survey and focus group work attempts to discern what the public knows about the ongoing assault on Gaza and what its various attitudes toward Israel currently are. It is unclear how much the research is costing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA), but the combination of focus groups and surveys make it the type of project that is usually a pricey endeavor. The MoFA was recently gifted an historic increase of an additional $150 million for its budget, with the aim of improving Israel’s image worldwide amid the ongoing genocide. The study also includes a “Phase 3,” in which research subjects in Europe and the U.S. are shown videos with different messages to test which propaganda is most effective at moving the dial. For instance, one propaganda video they showed research participants involved a “college student with a ‘Free Palestine’ sign who lowers it as she hears more messages about Israel and the conflict until she throws it away,” according to the report.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/leaked-israel-reputation-survey-research-mark-penn-stagwell

Communists of Serbia support the popular uprising led by students against the corrupt Vučić regime
For months now, the people's justified rebellion against the corrupt and criminalized government, embodied in Aleksandar Vučić and the SNS, has been going on. Of course, we should not forgePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2464120
>Communists of Serbia support the popular uprising
Yugoslavia 2 when?



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