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Lets say in 2028 The second american civil war broke out because the election oreconomic collapse, and it was a muti factional civil war.

If the left, whether marxists, anarchists, the DSA, or CPUSA, actually won after the collapse, how would the social revolution really unfold and how would they fix the generational capitalist conditioning. Netherless how the new society would be organized politically.

I feel the need to ask this because this site talks a lot about the coming collapse but doesn't really talk about how it would be organized afterwards.
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>>2585542
I like the idea of the hexayurt. tbh I was just bumping this thread because I found it interesting


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When I was just a little girl
I asked my mother: What will I be?
Will I be pretty?
Will I be rich?
Here's what she said to me

Que sera sera
What ever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see

>>2585169
The American Revolution would be lead by a messy coalition of left and right populists who are completely dissatisfied with the state while reformist like the DSA,Groypers,techbros,MIC,etc are likely to fight for the falling empire. The victor would end up being this coalition that would be more Maoism with American characteristics

Bro I’m nutting at the thought of a successful communist revolution in America



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Beach episode edition

Previous threads:

#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#2 https://archive.ph/sntTt
#3 https://archive.ph/AoX8t
#4 >>2576793
#5 >>2595789
#6 >>2622281
#7 >>2623031
#8 >>2623774
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>>2627118
I'm also getting word that his bitch was too bad

>>2627089
If he kidnapped Maduro, while leaving everything else intact, and called it quits, he would be extremely retarded.

>>2626801
>Whether the US gains control of state oil
they dont really need it they just need to take it off the market to screw over china and increase LNG prices for europe. same reason they didnt really develop iraq

>>2627140
"Green leftism" is bourgeoisie-revisionist nonsense.



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The USA is entering similar conditions to those seen from 1968–1972. These include imperial overreach, the normalization of acts of terror domestically, general disdain for the aging ruling class, stagnating wages, and open talk of civil war.
The main difference between the two periods is this: Gen Z has far more worse material conditions than the Boomers ever did, but at the same time far fewer direct casualties from proxy conflicts. American People aren’t dying in Venezuela, and probably won't unless the rest of the Manduro's party mobilizes the country.
Trump knows that if there is ever a draft, or if US troops start dying in large numbers, that would be the final breaking point. This is why he carried out the swift, public kidnapping of Maduro.
He understands that the US is in a crisis of capitalism, and as a result he is using, and has been using foreign threats (including the tariffs ofc), as an outlet for the interal crisis.

He is deverting internal class conflict within the US, outward onto the rest of the globe.

The main question that should be asked is this; since there is not a general organization of labor like the boomers had, will this cause a rise into smaller, but much more revolutionary organizations?
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>>2626379
>since there is not a general organization of labor like the boomers had, will this cause a rise into smaller, but much more revolutionary organizations?
We are already seeing various radicalized individuals carrying out all kinds of terror attacks, from targeted assassinations to mass killings. While they usually aren't formal members, these individuals are often linked to/radicalized by small fringe groups like IS, Atomwaffen, etc.

I wouldn't say more "revolutionary", but more radical, definitely. A large proportion of young men from Gen Z are radical right wing of some sort, there's a potential for violent breakdown of society.

>>2626379
>The USA is entering similar conditions to those seen from 1968–1972.
Nah. The 1880s.

>>2626867
This. We're reliving the gilded age and have no one to blame but ourselves.

>>2626379
Trump doesn’t know that though. He honestly is that stupid.

>>2626889
That's why I don't blame dictators for supporting him, he's senile and easy to manipulate.



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AI is currently being used as a political tool to help counter china's growing AI industry as its more easy for them to build AI data centers than America as America is fell too far behind when it comes setting up new factories and other places of business. America and a lot of countries are racing to build these data centers because pretty much everyone by this point knows there's a looming threat coming that's about to turn into an all out war.

Everything you know about business gets thrown out the window when dealing with the top major powers. Its a whole different ball game from here on out.

It's likely not stopping in the foreseeable future because it's a proxy war between world powers, like the space race, governments are injecting infinite money into this shit in the hopes of getting a weapon over each other, unless a new weapon with more potential presents itself in the digital landscape, it's not going away and these companies will keep being funded.

The goal is not to have a 'usable' product, the goal is to have the ultimate weapon of thought control/surveillance. Propaganda and misinformation are more important than ever, you've seen this shit with ukraine/palestine. It's not going away no matter how fucking shit the consumer market product is.

think about all the money that was poured into space exploration, all the factories, companies and industry being propelled by all that funding, was there ever a return of investment from the astronomical amounts of money spent by the USA during the cold war? No, they never gave a shit how much money they threw to the problem because the prize was too tantalizing -> information gathering, weaponizing space.

The space race only ever stopped because USA 'won' by landing on the moon and the public lost interest on it, which made difficult to justify the money spent on that shit vs other possible avenues of weaponization.
But AI is not the same, digital 'space' is so deeply rooted into people's daily lives that the return of investment is enormous compared to the space race, autonomous control over digital landscape through AI could give governments control over peoples perception of reality and made them do whatever the fuck you want.
Corporations and gov agencies could already do that shit, but the main bottleneck was the amount of people/resources required to monitor such systems, but AI could eliminate that bottleneck, plus all the uses of needing lePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Maybe but if the economy collapses with what money will they keep in investing in this

I guess you can loot ajd onvade other countries to pay for it



 

I'm asking sincerely, how much of a problem is this? Most people are not class conscious and reactionary politics based on vibes is extremely common. I present as fairly "socially traditional" in my personal life while still being a progressive and my politics have surprised many people I know due to their associations with "the left", that being some variation of the "blue haired feminist (or trans woman in 2025)" or whatever boogeyman they have. Being a socialist does not mean what it means to me for these people.

While I obviously find it laughable to not base your politics on material factors and don't subscribe to socially regressive sentiment myself I still feel worried about how much impact this could be having on the movement. I don't know how you would deal with this though because I don't think promoting reactionary politics within the left is a good idea but large swaths of people who will definitely never read theory are also being alienated due having socially regressive views that clash with the "vibes" they're getting of the left, regardless if they're true or not. There's of course also the other side of this where people who are clearly liberals identify as "socialists" due to their own associations with the left and social progressiveness while also never reading theory which makes organizing IRL harder (I have personal experience of this honestly).

Maybe there's some kind of "class reductionism" (despite being used as a derogatory term by some) one could adopt but I also don't know how you'd do that properly since reactionaries weaponize optics anyway.
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>>2626072
Everything that you said is true.
>>2626077
>hes not a weak ugly poorfag with zero social skills and network so hes BAD
Eternal Faustian Shitlib victory it is
>>2626673
>Don't polls show a hard swing towards the far right amongst young men
Neurotic faillenial detected.
>>2626676
It's not about the adventurism in itself but you do in fact need to look tough, cool and have the potential for violence = vitality & collective empowerrnt. We are not in 1910 where material conditions defined most of politics, not in the post-welfare threats first world at least. Rightists understood this decades ago.
You wont achieve anything with spiteful castrating radical feminists and ACP shills sucking right wingers dick.

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NAMEFAG RANKING:
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWOoPYnA

Take 30 seconds to rank the namefags. It is important to know the opinionnof leftypolars. This is Democracy

https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWOoPYnA
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>>2626673
if this were actually true, there'd be more evidence towards it, polls like this are believed by gullible people, like yourself

>>2626098
>Your average voter in 2015 was way more radicalized than today
Objectively false. In all forms and shapes of US politics.



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First As Tragedy, Second As Farce eidshen

Previous Threads
#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#2 https://archive.ph/sntTt
#3 https://archive.ph/AoX8t
#4 >>2576793
#5 >>2595789
#? >>2622281

Thread in which we discuss the latest imperialist war
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They're annexing Greenland next aren't they?


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>>2625438
Yeah…

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>Maduro will be held in the same area as Luigi.

NYbros… When is it happening?

>>2625438
The only silver lining will be watching the tragicomedy show that is EU mental gymnastics. It's already bad enough today.
Maybe FIDE (chess) might actually ban the Amercian flag like it did the Russia/Belarus flags for literally no reason.



 

After the kidnapping of Maduro Trump has been mask off about imperialism, unlike Bush he hasn’t said “Oh this is for the good of Venezuela” he has just said “Oh they have oil and we want that oil for me and my pedophile oligarchs to make super-profits from.” There is no way that any population of any country would want to be treated this way, even if there puppet governments do.
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>>2626362
They would need a lot of sensors and cameras - more cost. And probably also something that can shoot down quadcopter drones.

>>2626587
Yeah, realist geopolitics doesn't mean completely disregarding legitimacy and diplomacy. If there wasn't a practical reason for those things, they wouldn't be used by everyone.

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>>2625202
Is Mask-off Fascist-Post-Recycle-Ultra-Hyperimperialism-Twostepsbackism going to work?

>>2626648
You seriously underestimate the US's covert military capability.

>>2626656
so it will fail?



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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2626561
I did, they're all F-tier, I filter them on sight because they are all retarded reactionaries. To be a namefag is to be an individualist who rejects the communist collective.

>>2626563
Yeah lets just give people numbers instead.

New thread >>2626571

>>2626563
This is the way.

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Venezuela’s Vice President: “There is only one president here, and his name is Nicolás Maduro.”
The Vice President of Venezuela demanded the release of Nicolás Maduro and Cilia Flores during the National Defense Council, reaffirming Maduro as the sole president and at the same time announcing the activation of the Citizen Security Agency and national power to defend independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, which they denounce as attacked.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/venezuelas-vice-president-there-is-only-one-president-here-and-his-name-is-nicolas-maduro/

Cuban president denounces 'state terrorism' against Venezuela
Meanwhile, thousands of Cubans are worried over the fate of relatives and friends working in Venezuela. Cuba's health ministry tweeted on Saturday they were "well protected." In an interview U.S. President Donald Trump gave to the New York Post on Saturday, he said he is not considering additional military action against Cuba. “No, Cuba is going to fall of its own volition. Cuba is doing very poorly,” Trump said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuban-president-denounces-state-terrorism-against-venezuela-2026-01-03/

Palestine Action-linked hunger striker hospitalised for fifth time
Kamran Ahmed is one of eight pro-Palestine activists who began a hunger strike last year after Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, failed to respond to a letter setting out concerns over their treatment. The group’s demands include immediate bail, an end to interference with their personal communications in prison, and the de-proscription of Palestine Action, which accuses the UK government of complicity in Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestine-action-linked-hunger-striker-hospitalised-fifth-time

Hundreds at New Year’s Eve London prison protest
Hundreds of people assembled on CaledonianPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2625950
Focusing on our hemisphere is hardly "anyone anywhere". The capture of Maduro was absolutely a show of force more than anything else. They left the government in power, have no boots on the ground (for now), have no intent of putting opposition in power (for now), and Trump said he didn't intend to cut off oil flow to Russia or China. This administration is retarded and all of the aforementioned conditions could change at the drop of a hat.

URGENT! US launches military strikes in Caracas: Statement by the Communist Party of Venezuela
URGENT Statement by the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Venezuela (PCV): The Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Venezuela (elected by the 16th National Congress, November 2022) denounces before the country and the international community that, since the early hours of January 3, the city of Caracas and other areas of the central region of the country have been subjected to bombardments carried out by military forces of the United States of America.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/01/urgent-us-launches-military-strikes-in-caracas-statement-by-communist-party-of-venezuela.html

Trump Brags About Imperialist War in Venezuela and the New “Monroe Doctrine”
We have to fight back. Already, working people across Venezuela are rising up against the United States’ imperialist offensive. Here in the United States, it is urgent that the working class fight against this neocolonialist offensive, and say, “not in our name.” Unions, social movements, and the Left must mobilize together against imperialism; but it must do so independent of Maduro’s government that has undermined, with authoritarianism and austerity, the capacity of the Venezuelan working class to resist the current imperialist offensive. This is evident in the thousands of political prisoners from the Left and working-class sectors in Venezuela who should be on the front lines in the fight against U.S. imperialism. Maduro has been responsible for negotiating with imperialist powers to ease sanctions, but always within the confines of economic subordination, while blocking the working class from building itself as an active class with real power.
https://www.leftvoice.org/donald-trump-imperialism-nicolas-maduro-venezuela-new-monroe-doctrine/

The Fake Antiwar Right Goes to War
When George W. Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, many things were the same as they are now. Then, too, the regime being toppled was accused oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2626418
Post chin

>>2626418
>larping
"wanting to read the news is fake, you're just pretending" guy living in the American century of humiliation



 

>When people refer to “Greater Israel,” they usually mean the concept of expanding colonial control to encompass what Zionists call Eretz Yisrael.
>This is the territory that stretches between the Nile and Euphrates rivers, covering all of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, and portions of Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, and Egypt.
>Some interpretations even extend it to a small part of Turkey.
>In The Complete Diaries, Vol. II, p. 711, Theodor Herzl, the founder of the political Zionism project, writes that the territory of the so-called “Jewish state” would extend “from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”
>Similarly, Rabbi Fischmann, a member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared in his testimony before the UN Special Committee of Enquiry on July 9, 1947, that “the Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates; it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”
>This idea resurfaced in the 1980s with the publication of the so-called Yinon Plan.
>The document, originally written in Hebrew by Oded Yinon, was translated into English in 1982 by the anti-Zionist activist Israel Shahak.
>In his foreword, Shahak writes: “In a highly revealing article published in the World Zionist Organization periodical Kivunim, Oded Yinon advocates that Israeli strategy in the 1980s aims to redraw the map of the Middle East, fragment the Arab states, and become, in effect, a regional superpower.”
>He has even presented maps of a so-called “new Middle East” that includes all of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, as well as Sudan, far larger than earlier interpretations of the concept.
>Observers maintain that plans associated with this idea are already developing far beyond what these maps suggest.
Somaliland as a target
>In late 2024, reports emerged that Israel had secretly approached Somaliland with an offer to establish a military base on its territory in exchange for official recognition. Somaliland is reportedly willing to accept the Israeli base, provided that Israel recognizes Somaliland and invests in it.
>In October this year, the Zionist rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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DP World
>According to Middle East Eye: “The UAE’s allies, including Israel and the US, have been instrumental in creating and expanding these bases. Israeli officers have been deployed on the islands, and Israeli radar systems and other military and security apparatus enable the UAE to monitor and thwart attacks by the Houthis—the Iran-aligned group that has fired missiles at Israel in solidarity with Palestinians and targeted ships traversing the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.”
>The UAE and Israel also maintain a joint intelligence-sharing platform known as Crystal Ball, which “designs, deploys, and enables regional intelligence enhancement” in partnership, according to a promotional slideshow.
>“The relationship between the UAE and Israel was very developed even before formal diplomatic relations were established, but it was kept quiet. Not secret, just quiet,” said Alon Pinkas, an Israeli diplomat who served as an adviser to four foreign ministers, in an interview with Middle East Eye.
>DP World advertises operations in ports or facilities across several African countries, including Angola, Algeria (Djazair), Egypt, Mozambique, Rwanda, Senegal, and Somaliland. In October 2023, DP World added the massive port of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania to its portfolio.
>The BBC reported that details of the $250 million deal first surfaced in July, provoking opposition criticism that it “violated Tanzania’s constitution and endangers national sovereignty.”
>These concerns are clearly valid. The likelihood that Mossad and the Zionist military are neither integrated with nor actively operating at these bases and ports is highly remote.
>This UAE-Israel axis sometimes acts as a satellite of US power but now also pursues its own expansionist interests (as in Socotra, or power projection bases, such as South Sudan and Somaliland).
>These interests can also be seen in the aggressive lobbying used by the UAE to pursue its own interests in the US and UK.
>In the UK, this has involved pushing the British state to become more Islamophobic under pressure of threatened cancelled arms and oil contracts as we showed in a long report in 2018.
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>Israel and Eritrea have a long relationship
You mean Eritrea isn't le based anti imperialist like the stalinoids told me??

>>2622167
Eritrean independence literally started as a revolt against DERG.

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'South Yemen' Officially Secedes and declared their constitution

https://en.stcaden.com/posts/12680

>>2625638
Somoliland 2.0 incoming



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