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ITT: we wait for and predict until it's out what Xi's New Years Eve Address will contain. Also: HAPPY NEW YEARS, COMRADES!! HAPPY CHINESE CENTURY TOO! HAPPY BURGER CENTURY OF HUMILIATION!!! WE ALL HOPE THAT THE FENTANYL WAR WILL BE PROGRESSIVE FOR THE WORLD!!!

Cheers, and I love you guys!!!!


IMO Xi will talk about changing global preferences, the need
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>>2619426
> just glazing AI, talking about opening up the market further, even mentions spirituality at one point (IDEALISM).
This is your brain on schizophrenia.

(Where do you go from here?)

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>china
>communist

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>>2620103
>china

>>2620103

topkek

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Happy New Year anons.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2619834
In western countries it's just a party holiday centered around getting drunk.

>>2620358
>it's just a party holiday centered around getting drunk
Well, then there is not any difference between the western new year and the russian new year

>>2620386
Russians are non degenerate by nature compared to westerners

>>2620392
You are totally wrong

>>2619700
>is there any benefit to me learning Russian as a Canadian in 2026 ?
Well, if you want to study anything Russia related then yes. Plus Russia's importance in the world is growing after the 90s (from what I can say) so I wouldn't say it's completely useless.

>>2619669
>What is zyuganov doing these days
slowly succumbing to dementia like all the old geezers in politics do

Back in 2020, during the Victory Day he said that
>Hitler burned Russians, Jews, Gypsies, Poles and all the other scum in ovens

A nice little Joe Biden moment
(vidrel)



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>be Second Thought
>make infotainment
>switch to videos about socialism
>gets raided by FBI
>switches to multipolaroid geopolitics content
>FBI raids stop
🤔(keep eceleb content in /isg/)

→ /isg/

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>>2619652
Its cause hes protected by the FSB now, duh.

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>>2619657
Average burger socialist podcaster

There is nothing socialist about his videos. It's the usual petty bourgeois populist trash about daaa evil billionaires

>>2619652
get a life you sad cunt.



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

A couple of things:
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2615335
The fact Chomsky was friends with a known convicted pedophile and billionaire is enough for me to believe this is not a nothingburger but a very real somethingburger.

>>2570962
Wtf I'm an anarkiddie now

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>>2600880
Is that Fidel Castro?

>>2571465
Manufacturing consent is the only useful work of his imo and even then there are other leftists that essentially say the same thing. Chomsky always rubbed me the wrong the way for how intertwined he was with the bourgeoisie.
Perhaps I'm being romantic but the best leftist philosophers either partake in revolutionary activity or lose their minds and commit suicide from the pressure of living in a capitalist society and not being able to do anything about it, ~Mark Fisher, Debord, etc



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Ever since the retirement of Fidel Castro in 2006 ever self-described communist country (all five of them) has been a market-socialist economy. China and Vietnam seem to have taken a liking to it, North Korea seems to be indifferent, I don’t know anything about Laos, and Cuba seems to be reluctant to it. Is only supposed to be temporary for until the communist movement gets back on its feet or are we stuck with Labubus and billboards forever?
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>>2619202
>Self interest is fundamentally how a market economy operates, in fact, most arguments against planning boil down to it.
Its one of the strenghts of market economy. Other strenghts would be automatic price signals (already addressed), innovation (already addressed) incentives (not addressed), natural selection of businesses who operate on the market (not addressed). All of these strenghts must be matched if a planned economy is to be presented as a serious alternative to states like China.
>And to the same degree the "market" acts vibe based which why fads like fidget spinners existed.
It seems wasteful if youre not into fidget spinners etc. but markets can take these subjective consumer preferences into account unlike USSR planned economy could.
>It is often critiqued how certain managers and planners couldnt act more according to their self interest which disincentives rewards leading to stagnant outcomes. (I am not a native english speaker so this might not be completely grammatically correct)
Neither am I but understanding is more important than perfect grammar.
>I would argue the opposite. Any attempts to further incentive various actors to act more accordingly to their own self interest from the 1950 onwards ended in failures and lastly to the disastrous result of the dissolution.
We cant yet change human biology so we have to work around these problems. How do you fit together the interest of the collective with the interest of the individual. There has some kind of carrot/stick mechanism in planned economy which In my opinion not hard to achieve.
>How do you think most managers ended up as some form of oligarch in the end? As the simple result of their own self interest.
Soviet planners were too ideological instead of scientifical when it comes to human psychology. All these wishes and hopes need to dismissed in favor of scientific approaches to human behaviour and psychology.

>>2614941
But the NEP in the Soviet Union only lasted for a few years but years before stalin quashed it. China has been doing it for 50 years. And even then it was far more limited in the USSR than in "Communist Billionaires" China.

>>2619217
In my opinion this was a mistake. No consumer based light industry was built and the quality of life of USSR citizens was low as a result.

>>2619217
China is a very different society in a very different position. There was already a powerful and concentrated proletariat in Russia and that made it possible for it to create a class situation where the peasantry's petty bourgeois impulses weren't entertained as much. The peasantry itself also had a very long-standing communal culture that was only broken up relatively recently and that process was still going on, if in the last phases, in fact it was one of the reasons Bolsheviks took power. Chinese peasants had thousands of years of private property so that's not as easy to snuff out in a short amount of time. Soviet Union itself went along with different solutions in countries like Poland because that's the point of local parties, they adapt to local conditions.
That's not to mention the very different external situation. China managed to infiltrate the capitalist camp, "market socialism" could only provide the growth it did because of the relationship between China and imperialist powers. Very few socialist countries have that opportunity, Cuba and North Korea would have probably preferred to have the kind of relationship it has with the west but they are not given the choice. Neither was Soviet Union given a choice at any point in time and even with all the revisionist wrecking and capitalist destruction countries like Russia or Belarus still have a higher GDP PPP per capita (won't for long of course, but people should keep Chinese achievement in context).
The Soviet model is generally far better and far more applicable to most countries but China had an opportunity to industrialize in a different way and crush western production while at it, that's awesome and we should all be glad they did it.
>>2614940
No, it was a unique situation. China is a very unique country in many regards. Also people tend to overstate how important the market is in China or was during NEP, the party still always has the final say and does anything it deems fit like crashing the housing market on purpose and no doubt pissing tens to a hundred million antiproletarian elements that bought several apartments for the sole purpose of storing wealth.

>>2619124
>the least
its not a problem. it doesnt exist.

>>2619216
>innovation (already addressed) incentives (not addressed)
like many pro capitalist arguments that devolve into "not real capitalism" when faced with reality, these models expect an ideal market that not only surely does not exist in the age of imperialism with monopolies, never actually existed historically either. monopoly capitalism also does not provide for innovation or inventives



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Iran president orders dialogue with protesters as chants target Khamenei
Pezeshkian said improving people’s livelihoods remains his “daily concern,” and that reforms to the banking and monetary system are on the agenda. But it remains unclear how the dialogue he has proposed will work or whether it can contain protests that are increasingly political in tone.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202512299422
https://archive.ph/kHbO2

Thousands of Somalis condemn Israel's recognition of Somaliland in nationwide protests
Tens of thousands of Somalis gathered across the country Tuesday to protest Israel’s recognition of the breakaway region of Somaliland, a move condemned by more than 20 countries as an attack on the East African nation's sovereignty. Meanwhile, Somalia’s President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud arrived in Turkey on Tuesday for talks with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, following Israel’s announcement.
https://www.newarab.com/news/thousands-somalis-protest-israels-recognition-somaliland

Saudi Arabia bombs UAE shipment in Yemen and calls out Emirati role
“The ships’ crew had disabled tracking devices aboard the vessels, and unloaded a large amount of weapons and combat vehicles in support of the Southern Transitional Council’s (STC) forces,” a Saudi military statement read. It added that the weapons “constituted an imminent threat”, and therefore Saudi-led forces conducted “limited air strikes” targeting shipments offloaded from two vessels.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-bombs-uae-shipment-yemen-and-calls-out-emirati-role

Israel to ban dozens of aid agencies from Gaza as 10 nations warn about suffering
The list of groups hit by the ban include some of the world’s best known humanitarian organisations such as ActionAid, International Rescue Committee and Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF). Tuesday’s announcement by the Ministry of Diaspora Affairs comePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I want an Iranian international revolution for New Year's NOWWW111

>>2619912
There is no communist movement in iran, only liberals.

>>2619911
It's a Shahist site but this report is just factual.

Sorry but islamocucks WILL leave
>>2619913
>only liberals
But enough about Khamenei


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Things the Islamic regime did
>support the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan
>fuel Israel during the intifada
>forcibly privatize the economy
>hand oil extraction to european monopolies
>kill millions of workers
Things Iranian protesters did NOT do
>support the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan
>fuel Israel during the intifada
>forcibly privatize the economy
>hand oil extraction to european monopolies
>kill millions of workers

Yeah I know which side I'm on :3



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Communist meditation, bordigization, armchairist.
GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.
A minute, an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a century, a millennium, a decamillennium, a centamillennium. As long as it takes.
Nothing you do matters, don't waste energy. Wait, read, write. That's the communist life. Wait in your armchair, read capital, write analysis and critique. Buy a gravestone with symbols on it to signify you were a communist. When the revolution comes everyone real and authentic will be resurrected.

A THOUSAND YEAR WAIT. EVERYTHING YOU EVER WISHED FOR WILL COME TRUE. YOU JUST NEED TO SIT AND READ MARX.
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Leftypol isn't a forum for communists, it's a forum for people to talk about communism. People who do things might be here, but no one here is doing things because no one is here to do things.

Yes, comrade Xi Jinping. I will wait.

Vidrel - activist learning to sit and do nothing for the first time in life.

>>2619757
Wtf this makes 90% unorganized unread leftypolyps the realest communists to have ever lived.

Truthnuke



 

New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.
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>>2610798
>Why is this such a hard thing for people to understand?
Because it nukes any notion of free will or personal conviction, and means that anything you do is because of forces outside yourself and situations outside your control.

>>2612022
All current AES states with the exception of maybe Cuba are actively anti internationalist.

>>2558358
He was a pragmatic that people took literally and worshipped as dogma.

>>2617776
>Because it nukes any notion of free will or personal conviction, and means that anything you do is because of forces outside yourself and situations outside your control.

so? the question of free will is entirely an abstraction and the unique obsession of a few people. the universe is either deterministic or "random" but neither of those things implies "free will" and who cares if it does. Free Will is an illusion created by a combination of not knowing the future and having a big brain. That's fine. we hold each other accountable not for our "free will" but for what our brain chemistry makes us do. That's fine too. If your brain chemsitry makes you a murderer rapist thief molester, expect society to react to you with disgust and systems of punishment.

>>2619389
There is never been AES only dictatorships of the proletariat.



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How do we create a communist ( not socialist ) counter culture in the west one that is aggressive angry thuggish and embraces communist past good and bad is not ashamed by the world communist project in the west one that?

>>2619377
Not a big fan of anti-scientific marxism that doesnt evolve from historical evidence.

you don't. there is no such thing as counter culture anymore. the contemporary notion of counter culture as political vehicle is/was new left idealism to begin with, but it also presupposes a hegemonic mainstream culture to counter which does not exist and hasn't in large part for at least two decades now. it's trivial that people become angry with social relations when the latter are identified as impediments to acquisition of means of consumption. the productive question is how to convert anti-systemic consciousness into explicit class consciousness. i don't have a good answer there. no one does, and i suspect if they did they wouldn't be wasting time here to elucidate it.

>>2619377
Ask the nazbols



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Trofim Lysenko, the director of Soviet biology under Stalin, promoted the idea that the characteristics of plants and animals could be altered by their environment, and that these acquired traits could be inherited. This directly contradicted basic genetics, which were denounced as "bourgeois" or "capitalist" science. Joseph Stalin was directly responsible for the imprisonment, execution, and persecution of thousands of researchers and scientists who disagreed with Trofim Lysenko's nonsensical theories.

Why did he do this? Did he do this? This is not bait, I am fully serious and curious about history.
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>>2619517
I promise you nobody in an org doing work is thinking about a long dead russian scientist who was wrong or whatever.

>>2619526
reading to my kids to give them an unfair advantage over idealistic anti-materialists

>>2618177
>Discovery of hereditary epigenetics make him a little less example of pseudo science but hes still wrong about genetics overall.
Correct. But I will add that just because you are proven right about something later on doesn't mean you are "less" pseudoscientific, and more that you just guessed right. For example, a person not being scientific at all (like Democritus) might "guess" at the existence of something that turns out to be real (like atoms) but their vindication comes with so many caveats (Democritus's proposed atoms are very different from real atoms) that it matters not that you were "right" at the end of the day.

fixed a typo

>>2619528
I have a better question. Should we imprison anyone who is accused of something, even without solid evidence to back it up?
And if you mean to tell me that his statement isn't fallacious because he's refuting rather than confirming, the fallacy isn't based on that, rather if the one who makes the claim provides the evidence or not, so your example is invalid

Genetics is fake retarded nonsense.
DNA is a radio receiver/transmitter. DNA "code" is there to modify the shape of it, like an antenna. The DNA guy was a big friend of Jeffrey Epstein.
Lysenko was right and was repressed by the inquisitiors of the religion of anglo-rockefeller mechanistic garbage.



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