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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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>>2562383
><Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
>not ruled by the bourgeoise
lmao

>>2562383
Princess Yo-Jong getting cheated out of succession to the throne proves DPRK is no longer a DotP. All true proles are loyal to the princess.

>>2563161
based with the exception of this filthy opportunism
>Communists should support a single state in historic Palestine

>>2566879
>until any of them ACTUALLY takes any meaningful action against GLOBAL CAPITALISM
Iran is objectively striking against the global capitalist system right now, by smashing the global imperialist system. By fighting the USA, it is fighting not only the only imperialist, it's the last imperialist power. Once it's burst, there will be no nation left with enough concentration of power to hold that title. The era of European domination of the world is over and the US is the last one capable of retaining it for now. The ripple effects of the discovery of such a weak continent as America are normalising. The "potential difference" is nearly exhausted. The nations of the world have been equalising in power/technology since 1815 when the UK ruled the world unimpeded. When the final imperialist hanging-on has had its imperial power smashed, the capitalist imperialist system will have no enforcer and will be replaced by socialism, the only possible higher system.

>>2562793
It was coined by Italian nationalist Enrico Corradini and a major part of Italian fascist rhetoric



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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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>>2686058
reddit radlib ass pandering slop comment
all it's missing is the 1619 and the hamilton reference


>>2631567
probably not

Okay

>>2706146
>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/megyn-kelly-epstein-trump-fondling_n_692085d8e4b0d31c0a7a0d7a
>>Last week, Megyn Kelly made waves when she pondered whether convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was actually a pedophile because, according to Kelly, his victims were “the barely legal type” and not 8-year-olds. (For the record: Epstein’s victims were at least as young as 14).



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>Previous Thread
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<Gemmylize the Intifada edition


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Latest News
>Pirates of the Arabian have entered the chat
<Trump is begging 7 countries (in 5 years) to help police Hummus
>China insists the pool is still closed
<Putin? I don't know what putin is doing tbh
>More ACK's and More ACK's to come from USAF (and fizzlers)
<OIL STILL RISING
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>>2742626
>wfwitness
The Iranian version works.
It seems durov is censoring Iranian telegram channels.

>>2742715
that faggot

someone bake

>>2742874
EMERGENCY BAKE

>>2742918
<<2742918
>>2742918
<<2742918
>>2742918
<<2742918

I've already seen at least one video of a drone hitting an industrial site, so they do come through



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This world nations needing to catch up to the big money bags inertia of first world nations that filled the pockets with colonialism have no choice but to opt for state capitalism. China proved this. Get middle income trapped bitch.

>This world nations needing
Don't care what "nations" "need"

Socialists would rather impoverished countries get sanctioned and isolated from the global economy and left to stagnate and leave their population in poverty rather than embrace the China model of embracing markets and lifting the population into wealth through the market.

>>2742892
The market is just a trojan horse and necessary as long as timmy is on top

>>2742904
Dumb retard mexicans are as laborious as the chinese. Ofcourse itd work.

"state capitalism" isn't a magic spell,if there is nothing to develop,nothing will happen and the contractors the state employ will just pocket the money for years pretending they're going to do something any day now I swear I'm not embezzling state funds wink wink
So now the third world state has 2 choices : develop resource extraction and luxury agriculture,or suffer from the first problem since it's impossible to compete with how cheap everything else is already produced by the global market



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04:42 GMT
Andreas Krieg, a senior lecturer at the School of Security Studies at King’s College London, told Al Jazeera that the US military would not be able to secure the Strait of Hormuz as quickly and easily as Donald Trump hopes.

“Having a Navy ship there is going to act as a deterrent,” he said, adding that Iran would “not hold back” in attacking hostile vessels. He added that attempting to use US military assets in the strait would be “almost suicidal.”

The US Fifth Fleet said on Monday that two of its minesweepers, the USS Tulsa and the USS Santa Barbara, were making “brief logistical stops” in Malaysia.

07:41 GMT
The fire that broke out aboard the USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier last Thursday was not put out until 30 hours later, the New York Times reports, citing the sailors.

Dozens of crew members suffered smoke inhalation due to the fire, which started in the laundry area, the paper said.

More than 600 sailors were left without beds as a result of the incident, and were forced to sleep on the floor and on tables in other parts of the ship, according to the report.

The USS Gerald Ford, which is taking part in the US-Israeli war against Iran, is currently entering its tenth month of deployment, the second longest for any American carrier since the Vietnam War.

>>2742870
this is the 2nd oldest iran war thread. we're on like #44 buddy

>>2708647
>noone calls trump or elon these things despite them being very openly anti jewish
Each one of Trump's kids beside Barron are married to jews and Elon is one of the most philosemitic man alive.

>>2709419
Dugin is against fascism and nationalism itself actually.



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i cannot take this anymore fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor i need to burn it all down i cannot be a wageslave any longer please emancipate labor now now now now

That's why I say: if they're going to nuke the world, let it be before the time I get on the bus.

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>>2727425
baby's first 9-5?

wage labor? you are an aristrocrat and deserve to be shot, the real exploited masses are self employed and do the gig economy for mega corps without any social protection whatsoever, you may not like it but the revolutionary subject is petit bourgeois now



 

American culture, and I'm not talking about cultural objects like Burgers, Banjos, Straw hats, or Seersucker suits or cultural Music like Country, Rap or Jazz. Im talking about behavioral culture like Hyper consumerism, Hyper materialism, American exceptionalism, or the insane Police and Military culture that's normalized. Like the last two could be fixed if the left plays its cards right but the consumerism and Materialism thing I think could be permanently bricked into the American brain. I live in America and I will always remember this time when ii was a kid and my family was on our way back from a road trip and we stopped at a McDonalds that was around an hour away from our and my little brother was upset that my Dad forgot to order a Root-Beer so he said "Don't worry we will pass like 15 other McDonald on the way home." And he said that like it was normal. I don't even think that in countries like Europe you can just walk into a Walmart and get like 47 different flavors of Oreos, Like I don't think that its inherently bad but there is no way that we get the stuff to make those Oreos without exploiting the labor of Sugar farmers in or from Guatemala or something, if it was self reliant then its fine but America doesn't manufacture anything we use anymore, Our entire economy is just 5 AI companies shuffling money between themselves. I will always remember that time that Trump was doing in interview about the Tariffs and he said "Well maybe Girls in America can have two dolls instead of thirty dolls" and although I hate Trump and his hostility to China he Isn't wrong about how kids don't need to have 30 of the same dolls to survive, and of course that is why the liberal media attacked him for saying that more then the stuff that deserves condemnation.
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>>2644138
you're still thinking like a voluntary idealist hence your cultural critique is just as brainrotted as the culture you critique, it's downstream from the same dialectical byproduct. go antipodal. study captial vol 2.

>>2644138
It's not a question you seriously ask if you know the history of the communist movement. Every culture can adapt but every single one will also be only barely recognizable. Lenin actually encouraged party members to adopt American ways, by which he meant focus on efficiency.
One big problem is that the founding fathers intended America to be a petty bourgeois country and that cultural focus persists to this day. Even the supposed left there can't bring themselves to be Marxists and despise the very fact that small business exists in modern society. But that's just one thing they'll have to overcome.

>Is it possible to fix American culture?
No and even if it was possible, why?
>the insane Police and Military culture that's normalized. Like the last two could be fixed if the left plays its cards right
HAAHAHAAHHAAA KEK these can only be fixed if the empire falls, taking its security forces with it. What could American leftists even do - tell the cops that it's LE RACIST to shoot black people and the soldiers that it's LE RACIST to randomly invade other countries and kill all the children with bombs and at some point the low-ranking drones will just magically change?

>>2644138
half of those companies aren't even american

Will take a long time. I would say that Europe is probably 70% Americanized since the 1970s for example.
For America to have it's culture change though, it would need to lose it's status as a cultural hegemon and likely there to be a more successful, enviable Communist culture to emulate.



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>be me
>iran could possibly develop nukes
>iran threatens american (and by proxy israeli) interests in the middle east
>iran holds important resources which could serve american corporations
>bomb iran
>kill their leadership, including the ayatollah
>subsequently get raped by iranian missiles
>anti-nuclear khamenei gets replaced by his pro-nuclear son
>iran blocks the strait of hormuz, blocking the transport of oil
>FUCK
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>>2732126
>t.shitlib

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>>2732025
>Socialism,
patriot
>Fascism,
liberal
>Communism,
patriot
>Theocracy,
liberal
>or Monarchy
retard

>>2732219
kek I heard his voice when I read this post

>>2731236
Iran started its nuclear program under the Shah, using Western technology and expertise. The IRI didn't start to develop a civilian industry that could be further developed into a nuclear weapons program on purpose. From the Iranian PoW they never intended to threaten Israel with nukes. Why should they limit what part of their economy they want to develop just because the US and Israel doesn't like their current political system and the way they build alliances in their region?

And for what reason did the Shah want to develop nuclear weapons? Well, at that time Egypt was the most staunch opponent of the US in the region and Iran was one if its greatest, if not the greatest ally of the Americans. Most likely the Shah wanted something they can threaten the Ba'athist countries with, and this was probably done with tacit US approval, especially considering all the help they received from the West. Even in this case the US and its allies were the only ones who had the audacity to consider using nuclear blackmail.

where the fuck did the US-Israeli War on Iran generals go?



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AI-generated. I wrote the lyrics, sang the melody, played the banjo, even got a friend on fiddle.

https://suno.com/song/0ff68a67-0f11-467a-b907-868960274195

you lack a soul

>>2732008

Well there's probably no such thing so yeah.

>posting AI slop on a communist board



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Hey /leftypol/, the more I'm reading about these topics the more I get diverging interpretations that seem unreconcilable. So, what's the global consensus on these notions ?

>historical materialism

The structure of society, which reflects the mode of production (capitalism, socialism, feudalism etc), creates antagonist groups with structural interdependance aswell as structural contradictory modes of existence (i.e. the proletariat will aim to maximize their salaries, but the bourgeoisie will attempt to extract the most surplus value from the proletariat).
Over time, this creates change and conflict within societies, giving way to paradigmic societal change (i.e. feudalism -> capitalism -> …)
However, another interpretation seems to see it through the lens of the development in productive forces. In this case, the contradiction ceases to be between classes, but rather between the development of productive forces with the relations of production (i.e. feudalism preventing capitalism from developing because of taxes or irrational norms).
The first interpretation makes me tend to believe that there is no gradual change from one society towards another, and simply a dialectical movement towards the abolition of classes, whilst the second one seems to be much more technology-centric and linear.

>dialectical materialism

This one seems to be the most controversial one. From what I can gather, it seems that it originated with Engels and that it posits that the material world in eternal motion driven by contradictory forces and structured around 3 natural laws. However, doesn't this imply some form of naturalism ? Nonetheless, another interpretation that I have picked up accounts for it being the idea that man is in a dialectical interaction with his environment, by which he is able to consciously work on it whilst also being determined by the latter. This interpretation can be imo hardly derived easily from the first one.

>alienation

Every individual is intrinsically a social and creative potential, by which he can be fulfilled or alienated. Alienation here refers to the mechanisms inherent to capitalism which "alienates" the proletariat from that potential by reducing them to cogs.
In this view, the dialectic seems to change again and shifts towards individual interactions between the position someone holdsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2710368
>I don't really see how all these can be reconciled.
yeah i dont either your reading seems jumbled and incoherent like you are trying to distill a complex concept into easily digestible bullet points for memorizing to take a multiple choice test. first of all dialectical and historical materialism are basically synonyms so start with that. dialectics isn't controversial and the people who say that are not real communists and have no idea what they are talking about. theres perfect continuity from marx to engels to stalin and mao in the understanding of dialectics and i suggest seeking the common thread between their works to understand what it means



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