/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2675811
as long as the burgers have their treats nothing will happen
the treats must flow

well one thing to keep in mind wrt to the epstein disclosures is that huge segments of the american right are literally pro-pedophilia(the thread of the playground forum leaks has good evidence as does the insta account reich wing watch) and pedocon theory is absolutely true. Many of the temporarily embarrassed millionaires acting against there class interest look up too and want to be like Epstein and people underestimate just how bad this problem is. If you see some chud on facebook constantly posting performative shit about hating le gays and protecting le family theres a 50/50 chance there a pedophile.

>>2675506
>alt-right
Aka liberals

>>2675503
>b-but liberalism is when you're a wholesome epic chungus!! fascism is when violence or racism!!!!!
Absolutely none of this shit is at odds with being a liberal/conservative.

>>2675515
>>2675544
>>2675549
you are ignoring that this is evidence of /pol/ being a psyop

>>2675900
And? So?

He was the only burger who made me thonk "SOME burgers might actually be homo-sapiens," tbh.

temu chomsky

>>2674399
Retard

>>2674813
Please be polite, we are honoring the temu chomsky

RIP

Btw, does anyone remember that he was on Penn and Teller's show?

we definitely needed another thread about the american culture war from some religious (ex-?)/pol/tard

>>2674870
I had a dream once where people wore headsets that controlled your thoughts through EM waves. I took mine off and then all of sudden helicopters and police in some weird armor thing and robot dogs armed with blades started chasing me as I ran down into some large underground building. At the bottom it was dark and there were people whose bodies were turning into obsidian and their limbs would fall off and break like glass and they were dancing and hallucinating and seemingly insane. The future was dark.

I wish mods would ban the use of (((zionist))) in topics unrelated to the Palestinian genocide

Western retards here are so eager to absolve their capitalist shitoles and shift the blame a perceived 'evil' that is the root of all 'bad' things

t. Arab

>>2675278
The entire western left is screeching about muh (((zionists))) 24/7 have you been on youtube?

>>2675288
No but unfortunately I can't escape their soyfaces popping in my feed

this is just a place for those who grew up on imageboards instead of normie social media, but didn't become nazis, to talk about random shit, news and politics without having to deal with retarded poltards OR normies who get mad at you for saying "retard"

but as far as actual political theory goes, there's nothing of worth here, just go to prolewiki and get their reading guide instead

>>2674776
The five guys image is weird to me because for some reason Mao has red in his mouth, as if he had blood.

Its mostly just Purity politics and porn but you don't have to create an account so that's cool

>>2674776
>its the only imageboard on the internet with actually good boards
This is obviously not true.
I suppose it's a good sign that you don't know about others.

>>2675002
But i love creating accounts, creating accounts is the only thing i like about websites

>>2674198
>you are according to marxists a useless eater and they will 100% exterminate you after the revolution.

Based.

t. neet

>>2674198
seriously, why is /pol constantly raiding? two days before the jepstein files, everything was fine.

We are here to help comrade .

i'm a minmaxer, even when i'm suicidal i'm as productive as i can be, i don't take a single step without a purpose.

>>2674296
>During War Communism there were labor camps for those not engaged in productive labor.
so ur tellin me if i dont have a job theyre gonna give me one where i hang out with the bros and build stuff to help society?

based

>>2674916
>Palestinian advocacy on /pol/
wtf does this even achieve materially speaking lmfaoooo

>>2674917
I'm not sure exactly what Palestinian advocacy meant, but it meant enough that they had to shut it down. There's a reason why people made this site, so I assume that it's part of a larger phenomenon.

>“Denmark has always stood side by side with the USA — and we have showed up in the world’s crisis zones when the USA has asked us to. We feel let down and ridiculed by the Trump Administration, which is deliberately disregarding Denmark’s combat side by side with the USA,” Danish Veterans & Veteran Support, the organizers of the protest said in a statement.

There are very few institutions that are as effective at punishing supporters of imperialism than the US itself.

Minnesota ICE surge upheld as judge finds 'balance of harms' lacking
Menendez noted that plaintiffs "made a strong showing" that Operation Metro Surge "will likely continue to have, profound and even heartbreaking, consequences." She said, "Additionally, there is evidence that ICE and CBP (border patrol) agents have engaged in racial profiling, excessive use of force, and other harmful actions." "However, those are not the only harms to be considered," the judge later added.
https://www.axios.com/2026/01/31/ice-trump-alex-pretti-minneapolis-shooting
https://archive.ph/URjTs

St. Peter police chief intervened and got federal agents to release resident, sources say
The woman, who did not want to be identified because she fears for her safety, is a U.S. citizen and a resident of St. Peter. She told MPR News in an interview that she was out in the community in her car, tracking the movements of federal agents, and recording them on a dash cam. She shared that video with MPR News. Agents in three vehicles began chasing her and trying to force her to pull over. Eventually they box her in, three agents get out of the car in front of her, with their guns drawn and they try to force her out of her vehicle.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident

Chicago Orders Police to Document Potentially Illegal Federal Immigration Tactics
Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago ordered city police on Saturday to begin formally documenting instances of aggressive and potentially illegal federal immigration enforcement actions, looking to build cases for prosecution against the most egregious actions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/us/chicago-police-federal-immigration.html
https://archive.ph/blce1

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Coupang, South Korea’s Amazon, Is Copying Its Worst Habits
Coupang, an e-commerce platform that is listed on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), has been stirring public outrage over the past few months in South Korea, home to most of its colossal operations, amid revelations of massive data breaches and unsafe workplace practices. What is happening to the South Korean multinational should reverberate beyond the country’s borders. The ways in which it has been shirking accountability and regulatory oversight, and resisting unionization efforts, speaks volumes about the future trajectory of global e-commerce platforms and their workers. Coupang is South Korea’s answer to Amazon and Uber Eats combined. Its labor malpractices were already clear back in 2021, when the company went public on the NYSE. The past two months have validated the concerns expressed at the time. In December, Coupang disclosed a massive data breach that exposed almost thirty-four million customer accounts. The national ID numbers and financial details of about three-quarters of South Korea’s population above the age of twenty are likely to have been compromised. Public anger has brought the platform’s mistreatment of its workforce into focus. In 2025 alone, eight Coupang workers died of overwork-related conditions such as cerebral hemorrhages, with six of them working on a nighttime or predawn shift.
https://jacobin.com/2026/01/coupang-amazon-korea-financialization-precarity

Canada’s elite media wants you to serve in the military
When Canada ended conscription after the Second World War, Canadians breathed a sigh of relief. Now, the elite media want it back. With Prime Minister Mark Carney embarking on a massive, unprecedented expansion of Canada’s military, the media has been publishing articles calling for a mandatory national service, fawning over conscription in Nordic countries, and uncritically interviewing military leaders who are hand-wringing about falling enlistment. These articles make the case that a military build-up is necessary to ward off a U.S. invasion. The reality is that Carney has boosted military spending to kowtow to Trump, and major military spending hikes have long been on the wish-list of the corporate elite and defence lobby. Instead of acting as critics or invePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Byzantium in effect contradicts the linear historical development model. That is, they preserved their productive forces, unlike the West, and furthermore, they "skipped" serfdom (at least until the Dynatoi won much later). So the "oh yeah the standard of living went to shit but hey the serfdom over slavery thing is technically progress, that's dialectics" model doesn't fit.
>>2671191
I want to reply to you honestly but I don't even know what to write. Do you want me to pull sources proving that private property was not "legal fiction"?

>>2672623
>You're basically just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks now.
Nah, you are just being evasive and not taking any definite position on anything. Your whole post was about how the Byzantine Greek Christians refused to merge with the Western Church out of some principle of not being subordinate to the West. Then you asserted that being under the Ottoman yoke was benign and superior to being under the West. Then you assert that the Ottomans were cruel tyrants.
>Doesn't change that "forcibly recruiting"
Yes, that is what we call conscription when we apply it to teenagers and young adults. Recruits were from 8 to 18 years old for the devshirme. The system was many centuries old and it was predictable. Take as comparison the conscription system of Imperial Russia in the 18th and 19th century, where forced military conscription in your late teens was a death sentence essentially, since you had to serve in the army for 25 years with almost no social mobility.
>I don't even know what you're talking about at this point. But I have a sneaking suspicion it is irrelevant to my point.
Your own words:
>Do you understand why the Byzantine populace rejected the Union of Florence, rejected help from the Pope against the Ottomans?
>.Byzantium wasn't the sacrificial lamb of European history so the West could survive.
>Point being, they literally revolted because they refused to give up their religious beliefs. Thereby "sacrificing" Byzantium.
Whatever it means it's not really coherent.
>Again, projection. The Ottomans (and Arabs, since it's literally Islamic law, jizya) levied an extra tax on non-Muslims. These people were worse off materially as a result. This is a FACT.
These taxes were often lower than what western Christians paid their own states. They were also graduated by income with demographics like women, monks etc. being exempted. Besides that, non-muslims were exempted from military service and paying zakat, and they had a lot of autonomy to tax and govern themselves as millets. Greeks and other minorities like Jews were important to trade, commerce, finance that the sultans found them indiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2672857
>populace didn't make those decisions. The Orthodox Church wanted to keep it's own power which required being separate from Catholics.
Firstly, the Church was the signatory. Except for bishop Mark of Ephesus. Secondly, it was precisely because of the laity's, monks' and lower clergy's resistance that the Union failed. Thirdly, you are getting your chronology wrong, as the Church keeping its power did happen after Constantinople was conquered, but there was no crystal ball to know that would be the outcome at the time of the Union. In conclusion, and I am literally repeating modern scholarship, they consciously chose "a lesser evil" in their spiritual self-interest.
>>2673455
>Nah, you are just being evasive and not taking any definite position on anything.
Because I am not interested in moralism, I'm interested in understanding the past as it were, and not as the West had revised it because it was inconvenient to its ideology. I am not a "Greek nationalist" as you immediately assumed the moment the Ottomans were brought up. The "Greek nationalists" are precisely the unwitting victims of the West's chauvinism towards Byzantium, they are compelled to spin the "defended Europe from the Muslims" narrative to "save face", precisely because they internalized the West's false "despot shithole" narrative.

Likewise, there is no need to whitewash the Ottoman Empire, as the Turkish nationalists do, reflexively because of Western chauvinism. Just as I am "rescuing" Byzantium by pointing out that it was materially remarkable (and truly it was, there is no lie), so should you "rescue" the Ottoman Empire, by pointing to its golden age. Not because we want a "return", but because we want to put an end to the chauvinism and falsehoods.

>>2669597
more roman than russia, less than romania

>>2670082
>Arguably it entered "early feudalism" with crisis of 3th century.
It's interesting to point out that Julius Caesar described Gaul society as suspiciously feudal. The commoners were treated "almost like slaves" by the nobles. I wonder if our assumptions of feudalism being temporaly tied to the Middle Ages is erroneous, and in fact, feudalism arises whenever you have a lack of a (strong?) state with currency, institutions, infrastructure, etc. and men equipped for violence take advantage of that.

Anon >>2669863 argues there is no difference between banditry and a state.

Thinking about it more, a king offering "protection" from bandits but nothing else, versus a state offering "protection" from bandits PLUS currency, institutions, infrastructure, social spending… It doesn't make sense to equate the two. It's reductive.

It's very hard to argue Byzantium's "feudal" turn was progress, and the "feudal" transformation was never truly complete as the state was still centralized and trade was still more developed compared to the West. Keep in mind, apparently, Byzantium's currency, the solidus, was possibly the world's first "global reserve currency" ("dollar of the Middle Ages"), defacto the coin of trade, showing up as far as Scandinavia and India, and apparently, it held the same value for 700 years.

Is the answer geography? What would have Byzantium developed into if it wasn't for the "feudal" turn and fall?

>>2674262
I heard he said that but I never saw it personally so I didn’t bring it up.

I remember him once pushing back on people pointing out that he came on a picture of Putin by saying “everyone CLAIMS I did that, but curiously none of them have any proof!” Only for an anon to immediately respond with a screenshot of the exact post with his name on it and the evidence of his cum tribute.

>>2674265
He self described "The only true communist here" and would get mad whenever I called him a third worldist because one of his most frequent refrains was "America must be destroyed" and that every single American was a willing collaborator with imperialism who should be killed. He'd get mad if I said that Communism would improve the average person's standard of living and would claim that anything other than total burger death is simply Nazism and wanting to "perfect imperialism" to "benefit the volk".

I once talked about how we should do more for Black people in the country and he accused me of "deracinating the volk" which I guess means "you're a Nazi but not racist"

>>2674281
And he really hates CPUSA for some reason saying they're fascists. I think that was the main reason he became obsessed with you?

>>2674239
>muh law of trickle down economics
give it a rest agent

>>2674283
He either hated the CPUSA 'cause of me or hated me 'cause of the CPUSA. He also thinks Anarchists are Fascists.