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Тhe Dalai Lama is in the Epstein files and is mentioned 169 times.
So much for the CIA 'Free Tibet" apologetics about him sucking tongues of kids! "ITS A TIBETIAN TRADITION".
https://en.tempo.co/read/2085031/dalai-lama-mentioned-169-times-in-recent-epstein-files-releases
https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/dalai-lama-met-jeffrey-epstein-in-2012-was-named-169-times-in-new-emails/4128913/
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>>2682290
Calm down zigger. Better to use both acordingly.

No shit, cia agents are all pedophiles

>>2682048
Big party

>>2682049
That's the AI summary, not the results itself.

>>2682101
There's no such thing as an uncensored search engine. The censorship is the point.
The sooner you can learn to surf and bookmark, the more you'll realize how much information out there is indexed but would never see light of a search engine due to the structure of search engines and web crawlers.


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<neoliberalism
any and all materialists must acknowledge that we exist in the neoliberal epoch, one unlike any other capitalist epoch. the biggest difference is that it has been intentionally manufactured to destroy class politics in everyway and it succeeded. via attacks on home ownership, community belonging, social atomisation, post fordism & gig economy, well fare it destroyed the ability for the left and even right to coherently organise and left them to embrace pseudo simulcra politics of liberalism (woke) vs conservatvism (nothing lol). in the third world where traditional manufacturing is still persued, an all ecompassing and brutal surveillance state made successful revolutionary politics impossible.

<death-agony, current and coming
but neoliberalism has entered its death agony stage. its contradictions (need to global elite agreement, invisible imports hard carrying western economies, ect) have caught up and the ideological, moralistic and pragmatic defences for the liberal international order and neoliberalism have already gone Dodo, all we wait for is the first piston in the globalist economy to collapse and this will cause a critical meltdown across the globe and with it the end of everything, the cathedral, human rights, capitalist realism, the spectacle and more. its impossible to tell when this will occur. i predicted it would be the coming right populist surge and then the mass dissillusionment which would follow, but the epstein files might cause it even sooner.

<Return of Vitality and Horror
with neoliberalism's death, we will see the Far right and left regain strength and energy, a true return to class politics. we will likely see a years of lead across the whole of eurasia, south americas and africa but not US or PRC. there will be far more riots, counter culture & demagogues arising from the formly 1dimenional workers. the 60s and interwar periods will be nothing the bumbling marches to the bloodshed to come and we shall see the earth be hurtled to utopia and despair one day after the next. total global meltdown. is your ideology prepared for the sudden influx of work? can you make one that can?
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I think a form of neoliberalism will continue but it will be regional instead of global.
I could see scandinavia surviving as a isolated regional ecomony, athough with much worst conditions.

>>2693847
>The once lauded succdem strongholds will become the last bastions of neoliberalism
Sounds about right

>>2693304
thanks a ton anon! it seems this is from Socialism Utopian & Scientific but was originally meant for Anti Duhring (gathering from the wikipage) either absolutely upstanding of you
>>2693464
roosevelt was the obama/romney of the gilded US. He worked with the Judicary to break up the trusts and get enviromental and other progressive legislation passed but it didnt change the character of capitalism as a whole just made it play flairer with workers and each other. one can observe through his agitation for going to war with germany and his imperalism that was still ultimatetly in support of capital over the interests of the american working class let alone the global proleateriat (same with obama and romnney)
>>2693847
imo unlikely, liberal democracy will probably become isolated and still exist in regional forms but neoliberalism such a particular global arangemnet which requires such specific frames of mind <general stability along supplylines, insane mass consumerism, acceptance of multi national corporation
philosophy
<human rights, government soverignty over personal privacy
& state of technology
<pre ai, mass oceanic shipping, functional and stable communication networks like email
that if like two of these substantially changes the whole thing goes klaploowy
>>2693803
im very mmt minded (modern monetary theory) so i deeply disagree with the emphasis on debt and its relevance especially to first world nations.

>>2694808
>mmt minded
Well I'm still not 100% sure myself if I should believe that debt is just a meme or not but it is definitely not sustainable in a world where growth is finite and it appears that a lot of countries have (temporarily or permanently) hit that ceiling

>>2687090
They fall apart or something


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Many people think that Epstein is jsut another conservative, or liberal, but the truth is that he is a fascist. Not only did Epstein work with Christopher Pool to create /pol/, he also browsed the neo-nazi website therightstuff.biz and shared its articles about how Black people allegedly have a low muh autism score or whatever to Nome Chomsky, who had no objection to them. Epstein also funded a HBD "researcher" Jean-Francois Gariepy who makes fake studies claiming that Black people are dumb.
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>>2675900
And? So?

>>2675900
No

Never let /pol/ forget who created them, who gave them their orders.

>>2675900
/pol/ is liberals too

>>2675549
Fascism is a subset of liberalism, not a seperate state.


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Is revolution actually possible in the first world or is this all a pipe dream?
It feels like everything is destined to just remain as it is.
If it is possible, then how do you see it happening?
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>>2687558
You should focus on following the quotes from Marx, Engels and Lenin that I will post to help you act and think. First I will start with the question of communists participating in the bourgeois election:

<Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.

<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, 1850, "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League"

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm

<The first great step of importance for every country newly entering into the movement is always the organisation of the workers as an independent political party, no matter how, so long as it is a distinct workers' party. And this step has been taken, far more rapidly than we had a right to hope, and that is the main thing. That the first programme of this party is still confused and highly deficient, that it has set up the banner of Henry George, these are inevitable evils but also only transitory ones. The masses must have time and opportunity to develop and they can only have the opportunity when they have their own movement–no matter in what form so long as it is only their own movement–in which they are driven further by their own mistakes and learn wisdom by hurting themselves.

<Frederick Engels, “Letters: Marx-Engels Correspondence 1886”, Engels to Friedrich Adolph Sorge In Hoboken

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>>2687896
The only revolution the US will get is a Huey Long situation or in other words Peronism.
>>2687930
Its hard to picture but this can absolutely happen and the US breaks apart. Wouldn't even be shocked if Florida becomes a monarchy under House Trump run in Mars a Lago and House Columbia lead by Prince Harry in California because of a liberal desire to match the peak country(Sweden).

It's never gonna happen. The logic of Marxism just insists that it will because it's historically inevitable but that's an assertion with very little to back it up

Never gonn happong

>>2692348
Assertion?


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>Class is abolished
>No more basis for economic distinction based on class, or occupation, no more capital, no more wageslavery, no more discrimination based on commodity access.
>Groups of humans, with genetic characters, have access to endless resources and thus the ones that exploit those resources to reproduce the most will multiplicate the most and thrive
>Other groups will not be able to exploit said resources as efficiently, thus they won't thrive
>At some point the ecosystem will be saturated and new strategies to survive, as abundance supports diversity and allows it to thrive without major consequences for the survival and multiplication, within genetic groups will surge.
>Some groups will rapidly adopt endogamous practices.
>Others will remain practicing exogamous or promiscuous, but since the endogamous ones will be outside of their access they will begin outbreediing the exogamous groups that give them access to themselves (while they actively don't share their own), high endogamy produces specialized lineages,
>Thus exogamous groups will begin getting violent to prevent the endogamous populations to outbreed them
>The endogamous populations might become hyperviolent in response
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We would probably achieve mass cloning technology by that point, but its still true that groups/orgs that pump out and retain as many members as possible will thrive in a communist system.

>>2692165
Genetics will be abolished under communism
By genetics I mean biological life
Silicon valley agrees so it will happen under capitalism too
Resistance is futile

>>2692201
>Communism is when you allow your women to fw foreigners
Cuck coded

>>2692165
Entropy prevents eternity

>>2692743
>your


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It seems that since neoliberal policies, armed conflicts such as Vietnam, Central American wars, and so on have been reduced. Even though neoliberalism has lost legitimacy, and the elites are desperate to recover control, the use of violence seems to be more restricted. Why exactly I don't know. Whatever the case, if violence is more limited for the elite, then it's our chance. We are disorganized, but reactionary violence is less of a concern now. We are the closest we have ever been to the revolution!

And no Gaza doesn't counter as counterargument

>>2691774
why does less violence = revolution
nobody in the west wants one because they already have plenty of treats

>>2691953
Do they?


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what if US and israel fucked off from the middle east and the rest of the third world, let their economies develop naturally into capitalist states and then did free trade with them?

the only logical argument against capitalism is imperialism, capitalism by itself makes sense.
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>why doesn't capitalism just not do imperialism? Are they stupid? Why give the people of the world reasons to hate the system? Why not just pay them well and not do wars?
Jesus fucking christ, my man, please for the love of any god that has forsaken up, read Das Kapital. Economic systems producing their own contradictions by their very nature, and the resulting instability and inability to exist in stasis, is THE core tenant of Marxism. Arguably, that is the very very very core of Marxism, it's very essence. Everything follows from there.

>>2640901
>Economic systems producing their own contradictions by their very nature,

but what if they didn't tho, you can see the contradictions coming and prevent them.

>>2640923
>but what if they didn't tho, you can see the contradictions coming and prevent them.
>Just prevent monopoly formation bro. Who should prevent it? Oh the government run by the monopolies
>Just prevent a falling rate of profit caused by increased mechanization even though it's a prisoners dilemma in which any party that doesn't obey the stagnation law becomes richer and more powerfull
>Just don't saturate the market bro even though being the first to produce more makes you richer and more powerfull bro
>Just don't do imperialism bro even though it's super profitable for the first clique of capitalists to do so and also they can then bully the others that didn't
>Just don't pay bad wages even though it's profitable and falling rates of profit as said above makes this the only way not to lose profitability
Read the fucking book my guy. "Just prevent contradictions by seeing them coming" isn't something that has ever happened. If you believe such nonsense then do not even post on this website or call yourself a communist again.

Yes, it was called mercantilism.
But eventually your country runs out of cheap labor and cheap resources so you have to get it from somewhere else.

>>2640883
They’ve just about hit the end of the road when it comes to imperialism


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There's no such thing as "left," or "right." There are only those that seek to perpetuate oppressive power structures, and those that seek to dismantle them. And it is only within that set of people who believe in liberty that genuine difference of opinion and debate can exist. That is to say, once one rejects hierarchy, the only meaningful discussion to be had is whether to scrap the tools of cruelty our oppressors wield against us, or provide them to all. Whether to abolish barbarism, or to liberalize it.
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>>2676128

> "There is no such thing as the left and right there is only [describes the right] and [describes the left]

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Left means outside of the bourgeois political spectrum because once you leave the bourgeois spectrum, you've Left.

>>2676128
There's only those who wish to perpetuate the industrial system, and those who seek to dismantle it.

>>2679851
lol >>2679373

>>2676139
This is theory, not abstraction


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>The president is a pedophile rapist.
<Lets have a protest.
>The administration is protecting and covering up major pedophiles (incl. in major US ally states).
<Lets have a protest.
>Rich pedophiles with economic power and pedophiles in administration.
<Lets have a protest.
>America is invading many nations.
<Lets have a protest.
>The police and ICE are arresting, repressing and killing innocent citizens.
<Lets have a protest.
>There are constant school shootings and a mental health crisis (that can easily be resolved by ending drug prohibition).
<Lets have a protest, and no to drugs, drugs are le bad!
>More repressive laws to certain groups of people keep coming and passing.
<Lets have a protest.
>Nations have become surveillence states and privacy is dead.
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>>2676954
Are you stupid?!?!? It was an attempted coup, idc about the constitution but the motives were dog shit so J-6 was bad

>>2676911
Americans are taught in school that the only right way to challenge the government is through non-violent resistance. MLK and Gandhi are treated like saints who ushered in new eras just by marching and making speeches.
Combine that with the fact that the people who are willing and able to protest are by-and-large still fearful of their own economic security and well-being - they don't want to risk what they have by doing something truly transgressive.
AND the final issue is that the ones most willing to engage in revolutionary acts - young men - are captured by reactionary ideology and video games. Sure they're not in gangs committing violent crimes, but they're also not challenging state power.

>>2679380
Oh and the fourth point is obviously the lack of labor organization.
A strong labor movement would offset a lot of the individual risk.

>>2679380
>Americans are taught in school that the only right way to challenge the government is through non-violent resistance. MLK and Gandhi are treated like saints who ushered in new eras just by marching and making speeches.
This is true, I live in America and I went to school, but at the same time they also teach that you must worship veterans and I never realized how hypocritical this was as a kid

>>2676911
Liberal insanity


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Who would have thought that the politics of the entire 20th and 21st centuries would have revolved around these two men.
Imagine telling Marx that there were gonna be millions of Lasalles calling themselves Marxists.
Imagine telling Hitler that there were gonna be millions of ᴉuᴉlossnWs calling themselves communist.

>>2678058
>the entire 20th and 21st
>we are only 1/4 of the way through the latter century

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Who would have thought that the politics of the entire 20th and 21 centuries would have revolved around these two men.

the two men are Bauer and Marx

>>2678058
LaSalle was more like Tito if anything TBH. Fuck cooperatives.

>>2678058
It’s terrible


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