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>muh global elite
>muh pedophile rulers
>muh normies rationalization
>muh conspiracies were true
Bro just say you aren't a communist lmao. I would still hate capitalists if they weren't pedos. Stop the moralism.
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Starting to think that the guy with the cigar is harboring some weird psychpatholical anti-proletarian ressentiments, likely a result of their own personal class position which is the peak of irony, really. Even bourgeois social science has shown that anti-social behavior peakes among wealthy people and people of lower social strata are shown to be more generous, and this is something even the least class conscious individual you will ever know has picked up on. It radiates from all this babble about how working class families are supposedly all incestous child abusers.

It's almost like when you are without capital, when you can't buy people and their services like objects or commodities you are required to engage in a minimum of pro-social behavior and solidarity for your own survival.

>>2681313
The creepiest ones are where they list the ages of the kids.

>>2681314
NO!!! THIS IS AN IMAGEBOARD!!!! YOU MUST BE ARGUING WITH ME SO I CAN GET MAD!!!!!

>>2681285
it is your belief that is closer to moral essentialism dumbass. There is nothing in your class structure that dictates how your moral beliefs should be, otherwise Americans, who are pretty much labour aristocrat in comparison to the global proletariat, should all be racist pedophile rapist cannibals
The part about anti social behaviour peaking among wealthy people is about >>2681321 how wealthier people will normalize sociopathic behaviours that reinforce their class position; not that they will become complete antinomians who go around SAing children
what you are trying to do is not Materialism. Its trying to tie your perception of morality to class position, so you can end up in a simplistic prole=conventionally morally good, and bourgs=conventionally morally bad. But what Marx pointed out about alienation is that everyone is socially alienated with their species being, regardless of their class position , and that this alienation can be overcome after communism, not that proles are kind and wholesome reddit benefactor.

>>2682073
addendum: we know, thanks to the advancement of psychological sciences today, that anti social behaviours like sociopathy and psychopathy, and anti social symptoms like BPD and DID and CPTSD happens regardless of your class. The "your morality is immanent to your class position" people do not understand how to explain this, because in their view if you are a prole then conventionally good morality is somehow immanent to your behaviour, and this is considered materialism to them.
These people also could not explain why it is poorer countries, with higher concentration of proles, that have a lower trust society where you are incentivized to grift and destroy common goods for profit, and why is it that the richer a country becomes the more high trust it becomes.

The root of this confusion is that the pseudo-materialist confused class interest with Conventional Moral Goodness. They believe that because you are a prole, then you are good (in the Marxian sense, namely that you have revolutionary potential). The pseudo materialist confuses the Marxian definition of good, with the Moral definition of good, which means that they unironically think that if you are a prole then you are a good person who doesnt kick puppies or beat up minorities for fun. And if you are a bourg then you have to be an evil cannibal jeffrey dahmer tier rapist. But none of this is scientific



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Total Dollar Death Edition


>"I'll take a Double Triple No-Bossy Deluxe on a Hammer, 19x17 Mao style, extra sickles with a wheat laurel and a fist, light tank tread grease; make it sing the internationale, raise it high, and let it wave."


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>>2658417
More so than the crackers, asains, and hispanics

>>2658415
Where the fuck can you afford to live on 20 a day?

>>2658431
>This job would not exist under communism and if it did we wouldn’t have party members on shift at all times to fuck with us.
What makes you say this? Labour discipline in communist countries was typically less severe than in capitalist ones.

>>2658417
Still the most revolutionary group in the US

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I as an American always understood that the reason was that in exchange for being social democracies they can basically just be giant banks for the US to store its plunder that it gets for fucking over the 3rd world. But recently Trump has been trying to take Greenland and give up Ukraine and basically Vassalize the rest of Europe, and I have no idea why the leaders are still okay with this and why they wont do anything other than say "Pwease no tag Gweenland 👉👈 🥺" like Trump wont do that domestically when Tim Walz asks him not to deploy ICE, so its not a far stretch that he wont invade Greenland. Why are these European leaders so cucked? Even Belarus which brags about not being sucked to America is cucked to Russia at the end of the day.
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It’s so much more than outsourced security. Europeans are Americans culturally now look at all the kfc and McDonald’s Irish and English are getting yankee accents . Don’t believe me go to a protest in France and wave an American flag the cops will not hit you and will back off . The cops will attack anything but you . They are America now

>>2659253
I love trump, I love him, I want him to ACCELERATE AND ACCELERATE AND ACCELERATE at destroying the western world.

Yes he is bad and has done numerous horrible things, but if this is what it takes for it to all go to shit and for the hegemony of the United States to fall then so be it.

>its plunder that it gets for fucking over the 3rd world
there is no plunder to be had in the turd world. most value is created in the North. the US primarily exploits Europe, through seniorage

Why is trump so retarded

Simple. BBC



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Marx taught us that "the weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism by weapons." In their terminally online struggles, multipolaristas mistake inter-imperialist squabbles for the forward march of history. You cheer for a "multipolar world" and the "decline of the West," paying respect to the very idealism Marx and Engels went over in the German Ideology. Worse yet, you imagine Stalin as a patron saint of your geopolitical game of Risk.

But Stalin was not a diplomat of the status quo. He looks upon Putin and Xi and sees not a counter-weight to American hegemony, but a farce.

The dialectic does not care for your cope.
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I just think multipolarity will happen at some point as a matter of fact and we need to plan around it, not that it is preferable to struggle to bring it about, as if we can influence policy that much anyway at this point.

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>Stalin was not a diplomat of the status quo
Say that again

>>2656968
Do you believe unipolarity exists?

>>2656992
Never existed

Putin was too retarded to make a pact with Azov and hand them oil until they invade him



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Happy "Malcolm X was right" day


>"I'll take a Double Triple No-Bossy Deluxe on a Hammer, 19x17 Mao style, extra sickles with a wheat laurel and a fist, light tank tread grease; make it sing the internationale, raise it high, and let it wave."


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2657214
30 Year USD Bond Yields just spiked up because of Greenland shenanigans

>Euros dumping US stocks and bonds

>Bonds riskier = Yields rise
>Mortgages for example are tied to these, so burger mortgage monthly payments are going up
>Everyone gets higher borrowing costs (from people to corps/govts) and dollar dumps

Those argie gusanos that spent their life savings on dollars must be shitting themselves to death rn lole

>>2657220
This means in a while CD interest yields will rise as well, since they tail the bond market

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… chuds

>>2656849
They think that Trump will rig the elections or something



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I've been thinking of creating a thread to help develop ways of communicating general theory to just normal people irl.

A lot of people on the internet are usually doomers that think "the modern prole is brainwashed he'll never achieve class. Consciouaness!", but that is not true. I've meet self-proclaimed conservatives agree with many fundamentals of socialism while not even knowing what the word means.

I think all you have to do is be reasonably respected, use understandable terms, and most importantly, use solid IRL examples they see everyday in their life for reference, because its literally undeniable at that point if they see the exploitation in their own lives.

For example to explain the unnecessary nature of capitalism/consumerism use this:
"Isn't it crazy how there's factories still producing X in the modern day? Imagine how much better the world would be if those factories went towards literally anything useful for society like housing, food, etc".
Or for something like surplus value use this:
"If you think about it, corporate profit is literally just theft. If i produce a X for my company i get payed 20 dollars, but my boss gets a profit of 100 dollars, that means he's taking 80% of my hard earned cash without contributing at all to it, thats literally his only job".
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>>2652627
its a better method of Larping about this shit than the way people usually do, most dudes on this site play pretend central committee while begging the mods to make this place a [INSERT LEFTIST TENDENCY HERE] circlejerk

>>2652504
>help develop ways of communicating general theory to just normal people irl.
this fool thinks class consciousness is when you know theory and the more theory you know the consciousnesser you are. what if I told you there are people out there who haven't read a word of theory and have more class consciousness in theri little finger than you'll ever have?

Threadly reminder that 'class consciousness' isn't an ideology, feeling or some other metaphysical nonsense.

In Marxist theory, class consciousness IS the party. And it is counter opposed to union consciousness, which is the economic struggle without a party to turn it political, thus rendered impotent.

>>2653047
What OP and others discussing is the latter if it isn't clear enough.

lenin said you cant go around converting everyone to socialism



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It becomes imperative for the various strains of infantile left-deviationists (be they the Bordigist armchairs, the dumpster-diving anarchists, or the idealistic voluntarists still clinging to the metaphysics of spontaneity) to immediately confront the sheer magnitude of their historical illiteracy and sign the attached document with the requisite humility.

It is truly fascinating to watch you petty-bourgeois moralists clutch your pearls over actually existing socialism, entirely ignoring that your axioms are derived purely from liberal ideology and fail to account for the material conditions of a besieged proletarian dictatorship attempting to industrialize a plow-based feudal economy into a nuclear superpower in two decades while facing the combined hostility of the entire capitalist world. This dialectic extends inexorably to the PRC as well; for as it has been aptly noted, the productive forces necessary to defend a revolution must be equal to the productive forces attacking it.

Perhaps if you had actually engaged with Capital instead of merely skimming the back cover of The Conquest of Bread or watching CIA-funded video essays, you would comprehend that a revolution is largely the most organized, centralized, and terrifying thing there is. All that crying about "Red Fascism" because the Soviets didn't immediately dissolve the state apparatus while the Wehrmacht was knocking on the door constitutes a counter-revolutionary betrayal of the proletariat.

So please, put down whatever anarchist, leftcom, or revisionist slop you are currently consuming, stop fetishizing failure, and recognize that your "pure" socialism is a phantom; the Real exists only as the profane, this-worldly, dirty-Jewish muck of class struggle. Formally apologize to the General Secretary for your embarrassing lack of theoretical rigor NOW.
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>I AM THE BIG BOY POSTER, I HAVE SOLVED THEORY BY GETTING MAD ONLINE

>>2650032
They don't have to trust anything. It's a question of whether the relations of production can accommodate mutually beneficial relations between different segments of the population. In the USSR they could, in capitalist countries they cannot. Ergo the USSR is more democratic in content than the average capitalist country and represented an important step towards proletarian democracy even if it was imperfect. To say that they just "replaced one class with another" ignores the fact that bureaucrats aren't a class, and even if they were this would be a class with an entirely different relationship to the proletariat as compared to capitalists.

>>2648087
LMAO look at the OP not replying to this one

>>2649559
THIS!
One of the most formative Marxist text I ever read. Short to. Could carry a copy of dozens to just hand out whenever a comrade says something fucking cringe (happens constantly)

You know your ideology is moribund when you are consumed with defending political decisions made 90 years ago for a state which stopped existing 35 years ago that no IRL worker today gives a flying fuck about



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2,559 CONFIRMED DEAD WITH ESTIMATES REACHING QUADRUPLE THAT NUMBER

tactical placedholder thread - edeshen

Previous archived threads:
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>>2644990 (archive it when it's full)

Quick run-down: Unlike previous mass protests in Iran the current ones were caused primarily by crushing economic conditions rather than civil rights, and so they carry undeniable proletarian character and potential. The true scale of the protests is hard to confirm due to conflicting imperialist propaganda, however the staggering death toll in such a short period dwarfs the previous protests.

Statement of the Workers’ Councils of Arak: All power to the councils!

>“To the workers of Markazi Province, to our comrades in Khuzestan, and to all the people of Iran.”


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>israel openly claiming they have agents on the ground arming sectarians and shooting civilians
>posters itt mocking it as a conspiracy

>>2648177
^ This

>>2649278
irakkki op doesn't want a better op to be made

>>2649202
>2) P-bourgs who want to see the market open up even at the cost of loss of sovereignty.
these same people also orchestrated the 1979 revolution, retard. They installed the current government into power. Petit bourgeois support (bazaaris) has been the backbone of the islamist voter base from the beginning.

Arak soviet status as we speak?



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Tried posting this on 4chin pol but it immediately got archived. I feel like I'm going insane and I wanna know if the people here might be more sympathetic to what I'm trying to get at

Studies have shown: something like 1-10% of people are pedophiles. Pedophiles aren't inherently child abusers, in fact the majority of people who sexually abuse children are not attracted to minors sexually or romantically but are getting off on the exploitation of someone vulnerable they have power over, usually parents or people known to a child and not strangers. People from vulnerable categories (trans, gays, foreigners etc.) get scapegoated as child abusers but are actually more likely to have this kind of abuse perpetuated on them

4chan was founded because Lowtax banned lolicon from something awful. Pol was founded at the behest of Epstein to further the alt right project

Is it fair to say at this point it's pretty clear that a significant portion of MAGA are self-hating pedophiles who genuinely believed Dementia Don would get rid of child abusers, trying to blame liberal elites as the sole perpetrators of this abuse as a form of absolving themselves from their own attraction, when in truth it's the entire yankee ruling class who take part in this type of systemic abuse and the spectre of the stranger danger baby snatcher is a political cudgel carefully crafted for the sake of deflection

I feel like at this point half of them are at the point where they're defending child rape while the other half are schizoposting about how none of it is real. I feel like I'm going crazy. Can I get some other perspectives here instead of just getting shut down? If I'm terribly wrong then that's that but at least tell me why..
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>>2681790
god that's an insane tree, to think that it all stemmed from a japanese guy making php tutorials lmfao

>>2679170
Where do you draw the line, maturity never ends until you die and setting the age of consent at 25 for 'brain development' is just absurd enforced inceldom on mass scale.

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>>2681790
>>2681797
note: Leftypol's software is a lainchan fork (see the bottom of this page) and my name is only there because I was the active maintainer at the time that graph was made.

daily reminder to leave vichan behind

>>2681783
he did correctly predict that moot was on the epstein files though. hes not a complete schizo-moron

* and the year is completely wrong - /leftypol/ was made in Sept 2014 and leftypol.org was launched in late Dec 2020 (Bunkerchan was in 2016 - that used LynxChan software)

https://web.archive.org/web/20141011135403/https://8chan.co/leftypol/res/5.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20201226115934/http://leftypol.org/leftypol/
http://web.archive.org/web/20161012114559/http://www.bunkerchan.xyz/



 

https://syria.liveuamap.com/

That's all folks!

Now look at Israel just taking away massive pieces of land from Syria while the islamists are sleeping, curious.
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>>2681166
>Rojava and the anarchist state is now working with and integrated with the ISIS state of jolani because fucking Lindsy graham made a phone call ??
stop smoking drugs.

>>2680867
Kurds did it to themselves, they have no one to blame but themselves for fighting against Bashar and being tools of american imperialism.

SDF general's last words - PLEASE HELP US ISRAEL WAAAAAAAAAA, BIJI BIJI ANARCHISTAN!!!(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2681437
>>2681440
Thanks for your interesting and informative input, anon.
This was sarcasm. Website for mentally ill short-bus children, istg..

>>2681437
>they have no one to blame but themselves for fighting against Bashar
There was virtually no fighting between the Syrian government and SDF.



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