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Copypasting everything cuz I'm not the official thread baker

Latest Trvkes:
>The war is going on for a heckin while now
<Operation Eagle Claw 2.0 ended in a meh (multiple aircraft lost, who knows how many dead)
>Ayadronald Trumeini has converted to Islam and dropped an F-bomb (confirmed by SNOPES, FOX and 4CHAN)
<Big happening possible on Tuesday
>Zios getting bloody nose in Lebanon, more Kornet and Drone strikes confirmed
<Oh yeah, 2nd F-15 pilot recovered (Praise be to Allah -Donald Trump)
>Oil is at an all time high, nobody knows what to do except double down on green energy (possibly???)
<Zio cops arrest Israeli anti-war patriots
>Zelensky met with Al-Jewlani
<The Battle Goes On and Young October Is Ahead

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>>2771666
imaging really believing that trump was le hecking anti-imperialist person.
you can't expect bourgeoisie capitalists like him, that many times twisted the state (state and federal) law to his favor, to be anti-imperialist.
in fact, they will all do their version of imperialism.

>>2771925
Unless Iran agrees I don't see how this is different from all the ceasefire deals before

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>>2771863
>that deal was comtemplated into the overall strategy against Iran
NTA but that doesn't make any sense - why would they make a peace deal (that was working perfectly) if they planned to invade? Are you saying Obama planned for a future president to rip up the deal and then attack? That's absurd.
American hegemony isn't a monolith, there are competing internal factions who have different strategies and goals.
>this war is a bipartisan thing that has been on the works for a long time
Just because some warhawks wanted it to happen didn't make it a guaranteed thing. Why did it take until Trump to make it happen? Why didn't Reagan or Bush Sr or Clinton or Bush Jr or Obama or Biden do it? And if it was being planned for so long then why has it been a complete disaster?
This war wasn't some grand decades-long machination. There was basically no thought put into it at all. Trump was pushed into it by Israel. Israel has been growing its influence over the past 50 years and now it effectively controls the US government.

>>2771853
>>2771857
based on the context i think anon meant to say
>the concept of an oriental mode of production is controversial among Marxists
which it is

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>>2771448
This one will go into the history books. I suffer from turbo schizo autism so I completely understand what you are saying. The inherent weakness of communism is it cannot compete against capitalism in the rat race metric. Communism allows you to have a balance in life which the rat race does not allow, instead capitalism force you to innovate for innovation's own sake. It's like we are feeding demons with our innovations since we cannot fully use it without it being replaced by something else. In the end everybody is overwhelmed, overworked and unable to relax. Even relaxtion doesn't fully help alleviate stress and everyone turns to some form of oxytocin stiumlant in order to cope with the irrationality of the rat race. Even more peculiar is how the more advanced the innovation is, the less understandable it is and the more society depends on specialists and experts, that themselves depend of other specialists and experts leading to catastrophic irrepairable failures if a minor issue is not rectified. Disorganized innovation as produced by capitalism is anti-human and serves demons as opposed to organized innovation under communism where problems are solved long-term and the solutions persist for future generations. If the soviets were like capitalists, modern russia would be in a much worse position than they are right now. And funny enough, russia cannot innovate like it used to under USSR and still needs some form of planning. China is also mogging disorganized innovation of the west. Communism is Divine Captialism is Satanic. No amount of kvetching over muh property and muh freedoms will change the fact that capitalism devours everything to serve BAAL.



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“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2616384
This entire post is pretty much, "Why I Left the Right," summarized. Everything about all of that is just further proof the whole ideology today isn't real. It's a spook.

>>2760901
The deep state are the ones who elect the judges however.

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>>2761749
the right has always been a sham
from around 1649-1789, it was primarily concerned with the interests of the aristocracy and arbitrarily conserving power. it had no intellectual theory of its own, while the left completely dominated all relevant areas of culture and politics. after 1789, the right was complacent with regulating the aristocracy politically, but also regulating trade to benefit them economically, such as with the corn laws of england, 1815-46 (enacted under the tories) which artificially rose prices so that british landlords could derive greater profits from their sale. Marx also speaks on how the Acts of Union (1801) with Ireland was a conspiracy to create a landed aristocracy in ireland and mass immigration into England (causing immense competition amongst labourers, as Engels notes in 1848 and Marx speaks on in 1869). This Act was also issued by the Tories. The right then in this era, were not at all loyal to the common man, and never have been. After 1900, you get the Labour Party, the first socialist party in Britain, and so the Tories (now conservatives) make these their main enemy. In 1926, there was a general strike in protest of mining companies attempting to lower wages; the resolve of the Conservative government was simply to make general strikes illegal. This led to the election of Ramsay Macdonald, the first labour PM, from 1929-35. After WW2 we get the celebrated welfare state due to the work of Clement Attlee (who also opposed the EEC, or EU, while conservatives promoted inclusion and eventually put the UK in the EU). During the 60s and 70s we get the "new right" in continental europe and the anglosphere. In the anglosphere it is about free market economics, with reactionary cultural values (now, as it will be clear, liberal values come from liberal economics, so it is already a paradox). At the same time, "free market" just means selling public assets off to the highest bidder and exporting national industry to foreigners, creating mass unemployment and dependence on the state (the descent of places in the US like Detroit are entirely synonymous with the exportation of industry, creating welfare slaves who fall into crime - this evidently stains not only racial underclasses but also deindustrialised regions in general). This period (often termed "neoliberalism") passes from around 1979-1989 with Reagan and ThatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2616361
I support Elon Musk getting shot in an alleyway like that bank cuck Luigi shot
Even though frankly that's too good for him. He needs Epstein levels of shit done to his stupid ass, a broken bone for every banned Twitter account when he to this day says he's all about free speech. I'm not even mad about the twitter accounts themselves, but the lack of efficiency where when he bought twitter, he could have for a fraction of it sued tech companies and completely rewritten the law code and held websites more liable in practice. Like this shit hole has mods, and with all the CP posts on Siberia, guess whose liable? But isn't it funny how rebellious youths and feds can post child porn on some backwoods image board with like 200 people, but can't on Twitter or reddit.

Pic semi related as wrong killer but they're all based

>>2771694
I think you'd want the institutes of Justinian or something similar.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5983/5983-h/5983-h.htm



 

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/12/ozempic-changing-foods-americans-buy

>When Americans begin taking appetite-suppressing drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy, the changes extend well beyond the bathroom scale. According to new research, the medications are associated with meaningful reductions in how much households spend on food, both at the grocery store and at restaurants.


>The result is one of the most comprehensive looks yet at how GLP-1 adoption is associated with changes in everyday food purchasing in the real world.


>The headline finding is striking: Within six months of starting a GLP-1 medication, households reduce grocery spending by an average of 5.3%. Among higher-income households, the drop is even steeper, at more than 8%. Spending at fast-food restaurants, coffee shops and other limited-service eateries falls by about 8%.


>Ultra-processed, calorie-dense foods – the kinds most closely associated with cravings – saw the sharpest declines. Spending on savory snacks dropped by about 10%


>The effects extended beyond the supermarket. Spending at limited-service restaurants such as fast-food chains and coffee shops fell sharply as well.


>For food manufacturers, restaurants and retailers, widespread GLP-1 adoption could mean long-term shifts in demand, particularly for snack foods and fast food.


>“At current adoption rates, even relatively modest changes at the household level can have meaningful aggregate effects,” Hristakeva said.

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>>2771140
Prescription meds website without script list
https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/list-of-reliable-prescription-free-online-pharmacies.8113/

https://swisschems.is/ (research chems & peptides)
https://kimerachems.co/ RC and pep)

https://pglchem.com/ (RC and pep)
https://everychem.com/ (rc)
Chemyo (sarms)
Octochems (rc and pep)
Zion pharma (haven't checked)
Penchant.bio (haven't checked)
Mitotek (haven't checked)
Alkonchem (haven't checked)
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>>2771146
The name of the one I mentioned is Retatrutide. In nexaph it's called nxp-3p

There are a lot of Chinese sources online that we'll sell you the powder for cheap. Got to dig around

>>2771147
Powder?
Like for snorting or is there a more reasonable way to take it

>>2771181
sorry, I'm not just fat….I'm also stupid.

>>2771134
So many fruits on cave paintings



 

Recently saw a discussion in regards to "Third Worldism" as in MLM + unequal exchange (a non-Wallerstinian branch of world systems theory) having grown in influence in the anglophone/western, largely online, "communist" spaces.
Here is my dialectical engagement, as they were on to something important, not usually recognized, but also partially incorrect. I attempt to correct it ITT.

Unequal exchange, Mao/Chinese aesthetics and purely performative MLM rhetoric has grown in recent years… But with time comes change.

The original 90s ThirdWorldism "movement", centered in north-america diverged from MLM on a variety of theoretical issues, most crucially the revolutionary nature of the proletariat. They supplemented their divergence with integrating post-Marxist turns happening in word-systems theory (which was ongoing in western academia between the 80s and 90s). As ""Maoism" ThirdWorldism" largely accomplished nothing, other than maybe increasing confusion in the communist movement during the era of blackest reaction, we mostly remember them by their cartoony writing and online media available through archives from that era.

So if 90s Third Worldism was a north-american revisionist offshoot from MLM which integrated non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and rejecting revolution in the imperial core for rhetorical "support" of [far off, peripheral countries]… What are the particularities of the contemporary expression?

2020s Third Worldism can be observed as being a north-american right-wing revisionist movement which retains both the non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and the purely symbolic appeals to Mao, but now replacing the "MLM" pretender framing for the simpler, safer state ideology of social-imperialist China; that also just so happens to feign adherence to 'Mao Zedong Thought', even after it was systematically replaced with the Bukharinist-Dengist capitulationist counterrevolution. which is continued today, the true basis for Xi Jinping Thought, as the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist heading the political line of the party has only deepened the cementation of a new pole in the capitalist imperialist world system since Deng, when neither as many NEZ, stock markets, overall % of bourgeois in the party or billionaires existed in China. Mao Zedong Thought lives on in the rural and urban areas of any militant area of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2767262
>>2767356
I place it more down to structural issues leading to the reserve army of labor such as the anarchy of production. Over-accumulation leads to wasted work for some and unemployment for others. Small businesses are extremely inefficient in part because they have to do the same HR work every other business has to do. But you can't simply legislate away the greater and greater managerial work caused by the anarchy of production. Socialism in one country will inevitably lead to a massive contradiction between the socialist and capitalist bloc. It's a confusing technical issue tied to the town-country contradiction which I hope telework and other communications innovations will help solve. Nonetheless, I believe the centralized administration of employment by the state is a step forward.

>>2767356
>yeah so we're going to need you working 30 minutes monday,two hours tuesday etc etc
the statements of the utterly deranged

>>2767315
Are there any blogs that have historicised this being the case via archival methods or something similar? Or is it able to be unearthed through links to SA archives? Wasn't a SA user but considering it was very internet-centric this doesnt sound too unlikely. Would need some sort of proof of the connective tissue to counter-pose to the emergence of the M3W """orgs""" like MIM, IRTR, LLCO, etc.

>>2767251
invasive plant species mean no more "bullshit jobs",mechanical removal with lawn equipment of phragmites and kudzu alone would end unemployment.

>>2769125
>kudzu
Ok. Based. I changed my mind.



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>Previous Bake
>>2767164

HAPPY 50th ANNIVERSARY BAKA LEFTYCHUDS!!! THE MEMEFEST IS ON THE TAB OF YOUR FAVORITE CAPTAIN TONITE!!!

Latest Trvkes:
>The war is going on for a heckin while now
<Operation Eagle Claw 2.0 ended in a meh (multiple aircraft lost, who knows how many dead)
>Ayadronald Trumeini has converted to Islam and dropped an F-bomb (confirmed by SNOPES, FOX and 4CHAN)
<Big happening possible on Tuesday
>Zios getting bloody nose in Lebanon, more Kornet and Drone strikes confirmed
<Oh yeah, 2nd F-15 pilot recovered (Praise be to Allah -Donald Trump)
>Oil is at an all time high, nobody knows what to do except double down on green energy (possibly???)
<Zio cops arrest Israeli anti-war patriots
>Zelensky met with Al-Jewlani
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SINBAAAAASAD
bake

Make the fuckin' bake, you crazy bastards

with the whole rescue fiasco and how amerimutts took no casualties it's now pretty much a given that trump will feel emboldened enough to invade both kharg island and tried to get the nuclear material back
>inb4 ackshually there were 100 dead amerimutts and they're just hiding it or that was the nuclear salvage operation and it failed here's this xeet from the iranian government as proof


>>2768932
You're welcome!
Sowwy for late reply



 

Stop calling this a false flag. The man who attacked this Zio gathering place only did so out of his justified anger over the murder of his family in Lebanon by the Zionist entity. Every and all Zios are NOT “innocent” and should never be mourned.

Realize that the left only shoots itself in the foot when they denounce legitimate acts of resistance as “false flags” and the people engaged in said resistance as “agent provocateurs.” The Years of Lead in Italy were successful for western imperialists largely because communists kept accusing other communists of being provocateurs, e.g. the Italian Communist Party claiming the Red Brigades were agents. When Greek anarchists occupied the Polytechnic in Athens in 1973, the Greek Communist Party denounced them as “CIA agents”, only for the Greek communists to claim credit for the occupations when students from the general student body took over. Likewise, during the George Floyd Uprising, Black activists who engaged in radical direct actions were accused of being agent provocateurs by white peace police. The problem is NEVER comrades who engage in violence aimed at oppressors but ALWAYS the people spreading lies about those direct actions being “false flags.” Learn this.
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>>2741252
theyre pretty much free masons with abrahamic aesthetic instead of that tacky ass french illuminist shit

>>2741252
It's real. There have been cases where they hold real estate sales for West Bank land, do donation drives to buy thermal goggles for settlers or IDF soldiers.

>>2736312
this isn't what we want.

> it's not reform of religious tax exemptions

> it's not criminalization of the lobby
> it's not prosecution under international law
> it's not revolution
> it's not class war

it's another tragedy created by a brutal and bloodthirsty imperialism and open corruption. it just proves that the internal contradictions and competing interests of the US are making it collapse.

I can't help but think the "left wing" fedposting supporting this is a social media smear campaign. all the lobby groups associated with israel have been banging on about far left antisemitism to suck up to trump and attack supporters of palestine. they clearly have bot farms and everything on the internet is fake.

I'm not supporting this shit and I'm not making excuses for it either.

Why do people think Palestine is Algeria?

>>2736457
>liberal hang-wringing

Frankly, any religious institute deserves this treatment, but especially ones that espouse Zionism



 

TL;DR I saw this one edit about Trotsky and, TBH, it hits all the right notes with me. Being very individualistic and such but not liking the Right, this edit and this quote hits me hard.
How accurate is it?
Am I just deranged?
IDK, just fuck my shit up fam.
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>>2762016
Stalin killed Bukharin. He's the fucking traitor of the revolution.

>>2761972
stalin was a shite military strategist, he only beat the nazis because of the sheer numbers of disposable "comrades" in his army

>>2771114
He was shit but the soviets essentially won because they just had better production and management they could bring to bear, not because muh meat waves. On the other hand nazis lost despite having a competent military and control of all of Europe, now that's retarded

>>2771128
the nazis lost entirely after operation barbarossa, where the scum hitler betrayed his peace treaty with stalin. europe would have been ruled by fascists and communists if the retard didnt try to do what napoleon failed to do. its funny when people talk about "fair fight" this and that, when it was hitler who first broke the rules and paid the price.

>>2771131
Fascists never fight fair. The whole ideology is bereft of anything resembling honor.



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I sincerely believe that once the life on the planet achieves the true technological communism stage, its most progressive course of action would be:

1)Breaching the Kardashev 1 civilisation level (even the 1% complete Dyson sphere should be enough)
2)Development of interstellar flight
3)Exponentional expansion towards all reachable star systems
4)Wiping out all encoutered xeno life and replacing it with ourselves (or at least, our robots)

Why? Just look at our history! For 99% of it, humans were doing little but killing, raping, and enslaving each other for tribalism, religion, and religious tribalism. And before, like, 19th century, the number of humans on Earth driven in their lives by anything larger than religion or tribalism was so small it was effectively dissapearing into a rounding error. So, would really anything of value had been lost if Daleks had appeared in the Solar system in the year 1800 and wiped out the life on Earth?

The Daleks do not rape. The Daleks do not enslave each other. The Daleks (when Davros is not having a megalomania episode) do not turn on each other. The Daleks do not exploit each other's labor.

Our descendants shall become like Daleks. The life in this universe is suffering, and, as one of the first technological civilisations in it, it is our duty to give the gift of death to the less lucky ones.
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>Development of interstellar flight
Never gonna happen. We are stuck here.

>>2770958
You are stuck here, and you will remain stuck here because you are a filthy pessimist

>meanwhile in 2026
<the earth is flat
<vaccines cause autism
<cancer isnt real
<water gives you aids

>>2769965
>Breaching the Kardashev 1 civilisation level
the minute WW3 happens we're going to Kessler Syndrome ourself

>>2771052
Star Trek



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Honest question: I fucking hate neolibs just as much as the next guy and the idea that people always make rational decisions as consumers is nothing more than a myth, but didn't they sorta kinda have a point when they said that prices are necessary in an economy as a system of information?

I currently struggle to imagine how a planned economy can take into account sudden shifts in demand and react flexibly to people changing their mind about shit they want, or providing them with a vast choice of goods that they can try until they find one that matches their needs. I feel like this is only possible with some amount of speculation or trial-and-error, and cannot be reasonably planned ahead.

Are there good marxist economic theories that address the "information problem" - in other words, how a central planning commitee can figure out the preferences in a society efficiently and then also respond to them without making concessions to Porky? I am already familiar with Oskar Lange, Paul Cockshott and such, but I feel like I haven't really found an adequate answer to this issue yet.
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>>2770692
Because this discourse might be more than just Oskar Lange and Paul Cockshott? Imagine lmao

This fucking thread again
>>2762201

>>2770696
Didn't see that one, mb

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As Carl Menger writes, economisation occurs by degrees of scarcity, which means that the less money you have, the more rationally you will spend it on needs, rather than secondary desires. Menger then (as the founder of the Austrian school) proves that economies of scale are increasingly irrational (as attested to by the division of labour which scales consumption by luxury). So then, an economy is divided between (i) needs and (ii) wants. Needs can be planned in production, while wants can be privatised by markets, since they are unnecessary. We can divide this between a public sector and private sector, where frivolity only occurs at the proper threshold of societal need, which then inclines toward the means of indulgence. Cockshott also resolves to the fact that markets will exist where consumer goods are produced, because this is how products of this kind are best distributed.

>>2770688
If you're smart enough you could probably figure out a model of communal resource use that allows individuals and groups of people to produce whatever they want at a large enough scale to create the new matcha labubu banger for the youth, bought with labor vouchers or something. I'm not that smart so I'll direct you to indep.network, they host talks about democratic planning on zoom from time to time and you may be able to ask them a question in person. In my view, the question is not whether or not we can handle consumer goods in a socialist economy, but whether we want to produce them on the scale allowed by modern technology given the effects of consoomerism on society and the environment.



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It is our duty and we owe it to ourselves to be as professional and socially conventional as possible such that we may achieve the widest possible audience for revolutionary thought. This puts food on the table and anyone with other priorities is unserious and hostile.
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>>2770977
US """""leftism""""" promotes anything but revolution. As such, no preparation is needed and US """"leftists"""" behave accordingly

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>>2770979
What's this, "You" shit?

>>2771000
This is a bad explanation. US society is anomalously violent - more violent not only than every other first world country, but also more violent than many developing countries.
If the explanation was simply what was socially promoted, one would expect US leftists to be more violent than the average American and - if we continue to assume that violence and "revolutionary-ness" are correlated - that China and Vietnam would be much more violent than the US. (They are, in fact, much less violent, despite being poorer!)

>>2771039
(You) and “You” as in succdems

>>2771039
OP is very transparently an identifiable long-term poster on this board, "Red anon" of Norway, who shilled "Red Party" (a post-ML, Kautskyist reformist party) as being the "new era of Marxist parties" for many years. Then their grift hit a plateau and started losing seats, since then he stopped overtly shilling.
This is clearly him, a bit more on the down low (same flag, same revisionist norwegian newspapers being cited). The perceptive among us sussed it out immediately and we started addressing him directly (but he hasn't responded anymore ITT).



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