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>be me
>ugly chud with nazi beliefs
>go to palestine rally
>tell lefty foids i'm a gay abo farmer who is visiting city
>get their numbers
>text one: "I'll give you a proper welcome to cuntr and decolonise your holes"
>she replies where are you?
>staying at my sisters house i reply
>she comes over
>we fuck, nut inside her, call her a white dog while fucking
>mfw she was a bit fat but we got kfc after

>>2691571
this happened
i was the gay abo farmer's boyfriend.

Darl, it's time for your daily news report on nationalism
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australia-national-pride-pew-report/0nv0le4l0

<A quarter of those it surveyed in Australia said the "mateship" they feel with other Australians, as well as how they "lend a hand" in times of need, such as natural disasters, were a source of pride.

<One Australian woman responded that she was proud of mateship and community spirit: "Australians are known for their friendliness, resilience, and willingness to help each other, especially in tough times."

<Australia's social programs were also mentioned by those surveyed — particularly Medicare. One man responded: "Free universal health care would be my #1 point of pride in Australia."


<The report said people mentioned the contributions and "rich cultural history" of Australia's Indigenous people as well as "how welcoming the country is to immigrants and to all nationalities and religions".


<Australia's systems of governance and politics were also a source of national pride for 21 per cent of those surveyed.

<In fact, our political system was among the top three mentioned when people were asked about their source of pride.

<Australians, along with Spaniards, were also proud of their way of life, praising their "relaxed" nature of the lifestyle, and "being able to live a relatively carefree life".


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>>2697220
>"Free universal health care would be my #1 point of pride in Australia."
I would also be proud if that existed here.

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AAAAAAAA

There are socialists EVERYWHERE. There are socialists around you who you DONT EVEN KNOW are red. It's amazing how many I've found by complete accident, like little glistening rocks in the earth.
I am going to FIND YOU and BE FRIENDS WITH YOU.



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The notion of a vanguard is not a notion of a political elite, though it can decay into one, but rather it is a notion of a highly developed strata of professional revolutionaries who guide the proletariat simply because of the fact that they had better access to political education. Sometimes this is described as "the most advanced section of the proletariat" but we often find not merely highly educated and motivated proletarians in the vanguard, but also plenty of bourgeois class traitors in (Engels), class traitors from the nobility (Felix Dzerzhinsky, Zhou Enlai) peasants (Lenin, Mao), the child of a plantation owner (Castro), and petty bourgeoisie (Marx himself, at least the young Marx, before his exile and relative poverty and England).

In the 19th century and early 20th century, this vanguard naturally contained many class traitors, since political education was rarely extended to the working class. Marx had maids, even in his apartment in London, and Lenin employed housekeepers even in his exile to a cabin in Siberia. This was a group of unusually educated professional revolutionaries who did so much reading, so much writing, so much public speaking, and attended so many meetings, that they did not have time to cook their own meals, do their own laundry, wash their own dishes, and could not have done so even if they wanted to. They needed help with basic domestic tasks from the very workers they wanted to liberate.

Today it is different. The worker can listen to the entire Marxist-Leninist canon as audiobooks while attending to the menial tasks which occupy daily life, both at work and at home. The worker can publish their thoughts to a site such as this easily, without needing access to a publishing company or a printing press. A worker can attend a party meeting in the form of a video call, while driving. This enables the worker to be every bit as involved in the theoretical half of the class struggle (reading theory, writing theory, speaking publicly, attending meetings) as they already were in the practical half of the class struggle (working, striking, fighting, dying). This calls into question whether the vanguard is the individual in a suit sitting in an office publishing theses against bourgeois rivals while servants bring tea and warm meals, or whether the vanguard is the individual who listens to Marx and Lenin while washing dishes.
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>>2700929
are you the same anon in the other thread who said all these exact same things and then concluded that we need to bring back roman slavery?


>>2701160
There’s not gonna be an alternative when nukes fly and the entire population of the global south is forced northward and oil runs out

>>2700837
Marx and Engels were never the vanguard, and as far as Lenin and the other key figures of the RSDLP who lived in exile, they were not even close to the whole vanguard. The real vanguard was sleeping on the floor of poor workers' homes while organizing study circles among factory workers. They were smuggling literature, setting up clandestine printing presses piece by piece, forging documents to get comrades across state lines or out of prison, etc. I agree broadly though that in the modern day we don't need saviors from a higher class, since literacy is widespread. Just from the more educated, literate, and politically lucky among the working class. All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second. The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution, but if you look from the point of view of the soldiers calling for peace before they're wiped out and peace is settled by terms set by Germany, and the bourgeoisie was calling for Germany to come save them from revolution, and even the bourgeoisie were attempting to kill the bourgeois revolution and were against a republic, it makes more sense that while the previously small and relatively junior bolsheviks did take the reins of the situation, the people who gave them their power, the soldiers, peasants, and workers, were not communist first.

>>2700882
The coming communist sneakernet will be glorious and unstoppable

>>2700895
The guy who got kicked in the head by a horse is the vanguard if he picks up a gun. You're conflating the ideological leadership with the vanguard as a whole.

>" Specifically, I wholly agree with you that special stress should be laid on the tasks connected with the work on an all-Russian scale and with the work of the Party as a whole; in your draft this is expressed in Clause One, which reads: “The newspaper Iskra, which has permanent correspondents among the workers and close contact with the work within the organisation, is the leading centre of the Party (and not only of a committee or a district).” I should merely like to remark that the newspaper can and sho
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>>2701393
communism isnt an ideology

>All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second

lol yeah i "can" also "think of" things as something entirely different, wouldnt change the actual reality of it though

>The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution

oh you mean the only one that led to an actual DOTP? interesting!



 

I find it especially ironic that Islamists, who claim to be reactionaries yet are nothing but impotent conservatives: the loyal servants of of capital, have exacerbated the social ills of bourgeois society which they claimed to oppose.

Islamists in my country used to attack communists for "promoting prostitution" and the "community of women" (women owned in common) this was refuted by Marx as early as the Manifesto who pointed to the hypocrisy of this accusation, nevertheless what happened once Islamists captured power with the backing of multinational capital and the petty bourgeoisie? Public prostitution became prevalent and organized, an underground industry run by this new bourgeoisie. Religious cities became brothels that people cross oceans for, with the blessings of God and law - prostitution became holy "temporary" marriage, a market fueled by endless victims of poverty, austerity and war.

As for private prostitution (marriage) civil marriage was de facto abolished and with it any concessions offered to the woman, communists used to rally against the payment offered to the woman's family to consummate the marriage arguing that it is a form of commodification, this has now became the standard practice, cementing the woman's role as a commodity first, prompting her to rot until she is inevitably sold rather than take her own path in life.

The separation of genders have twisted the view of women to be mere objects of sexual gratification rather than real conscious beings. This view twisted further by pornagrahy; the consumption rates of which is amongst the highest in the world despite being banned and labelled taboo. Naturally the rates of harassment and rape have also increased despite bullying women into suppressing their every feminine character.

I suppose eventually it became convenient to lift any ostensible restrictions around this commodity, and so the age of marriage was lowered to 9 in order to save them from degeneracy of celibacy.

Now believe me when I say I don't shutter at the 'immorality and injustice' of any of this for the commodification of women and children is entirely within the logic of capitalism, in this extreme case it has only been elevated into a more public form under the guise of God, the only way to abolish it remains to be by abolishing all class distinctions.

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>>2679542
It's funny how the Soviet Union in WW2 fought for the same objectives as the Tsarist empire in WW1 that the great revolution negated before it crumbled.

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>>2677314
I'm Pakistani and I will say that the Afghans and my nation would have better off with the Russians, we'd be semi-civilized and on par with central-asia then the shitholes we are right now

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>>2677308
>How's the Soviets killing a billion Afghan to save le democracy
>killing a billion
1. kys
2. madeup number
3. the US funded osama bin laden and right wing freaks in afghanistan to overthrow the socialist government in kabul, who then asked 3 times (!) for soviet support before the soviets reluctantly acquiesced… then, the same fucking bourgeois real estate freak (Bin Laden) that the CIA funded to overthrow socialism in Afghanistan got about 20 dudes, most of them saudi, to do terror attacks in America, prompting America to invade… Afghanistan….

the only equation you should be making between the soviet "invasion" of Afghanistan prompted by Operation Cyclone and the US invasion of Afghanistan is that they were both America's fault.

>>2677319
>made up greentext
>ragebait assertion
>taking bourgeois propaganda at face value



 

This is the only logical way of understanding the Chomsky-Epstein controversy and what it means for us on the left, and I will die on this hill.

The worst thing Chomsky did was go against his anarchist principles by being friends with a billionaire pervert. There is zero evidence he did anything criminal himself. No woman has come forward and said Chomsky did anything to her on Epstein Island. Chomsky gave Epstein advice on how to defend himself from the media because they were friends and Chomsky believed his friend (no matter how awful of a person he was) was innocent. That’s not a valid reason to cancel someone or Chuck out their lifetime of work.

Let’s be honest: a lot of the stuff said about Epstein is dubious at best. There’s no solid evidence he was a Mossad agent luring in high-ranking global elites in order to get blackmail material on them on behalf of Israel. Not only does this narrative completely ignore capitalism and class interest, but it’s not supported by much. For one thing, most of the girls Epstein was having sex with were over 18. Yes, sone were underage, but it’s most likely they lied about their ages the same way underage groupies in the 1970s lied about their ages in order to bang rock stars. I don’t deny Epstein was a disgusting sleazeball, but he wasn’t some three-headed Illuminati alien sacrificing babies to Satan. There’s also no evidence of Epstein ever being a pimp. None of the women he trafficked have said he was pumping them out to others. One woman, Virginia Giuffre, has made multiple claims that haven’t been substantiated yet the media takes as gospel truth. Some of the things said in the files are so outrageous it’s hard to believe them. Look at it with skeptical eyes.

But back to Chomsky: his work is now being thrown out by 99% of the left precisely because the left operates on a very rigid moralism. They will dogpile on anyone for every single little thing. Modern leftist spaces have no leaders and no real structure, so they’re unable to resolve any internal conflict in any other way than mob justice. This is a huge problem that needs to be addressed and solved.

Is there a way to hold Chomsky accountable for being friends with Epstein without demanding comrades burn his books? There should be.
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>>2701046
the unnecessary palestine flag attached to this post adds a bit of extra spice to the bait but it also gives the bait away, you can tell it's meant to be bit

Am I the only one who’s sick and tired of the Epstein shit turning into the left embracing the Great Man of History nonsense?

>>2702299
Because Epstein was a global conspiracy.

Chomsky is petite bourgeois which is why all the anarchists he lead follow the legacy of petite bourgeois.

So how will Chomsky be remembered after he finally dies?

I'm guessing he'll be buried in an unmarked grave somewhere in Brazil where he's currently in a coma.



 

We can draw parallels with the interbellum period. The rotten liberal European regimes trying to appease brooding fascism (be it Nazi Germany or the disunited ssnakkkess of crackmerikkka), letting the rabid dogs of imperialism get away with more and more ridiculous demands, every state on the way to the Bastion of Communism (the USSR or PRC) falling like dominoes (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Rumania, Bolgaria/Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela) but in the end, wars are not decided by vibes and shit, by flashes and thunders, wars are not decided by kidnapping figure-heads, but by the capacity of industrial production. And when it comes to that, the US is doomed to lose.

The emperor is fully naked. It is always darkest before dawn, Minerva's owl flies only at dusk.
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>>2700518
you don't understand. You watching Nazi Germany prepare to go up against the USSR. Whatever happens in between, this has already been decided on. USA loses to China. Imperialism is over.

>>2700471
the cope for that is "false consciousness", not imperialism

>>2700471
>why the vast majority of the working class has never supported the communist project.
1/6 of the world's population lived under communist projects at its peak, and that was the first time communism tried the whole "international proletarian dictatorship" thing.

>>2700521
whose the USSR?

>>2700537
False consciousness is not cope



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ok so what does dictator ship of the proletariat mean? Because it sounds like the working people of the country are the dictatorship and make the decisions, which really means that it’s… representative democracy? but we havethat already?
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>>2700533
if you want a serious answer go read state and revolution by lenin

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Theres the historical way it plsyed out pragmatically and what marx meant. Back in marx day he got the inspiration because if the paris commune where workers seized the loom factories and ran them collectively for a short period of time before they got shot.

>>2700668
Dat pic is peak historical illiterate meme

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>>2700564
>Marx spoke of a stateless society, that should be your first clue that he didn't imply any form of nation-state is necessary.

>>2700668
>Back in marx day he got the inspiration because if the paris commune
Marx was already writing for decades when the paris commune happened. manifesto was in 1848. capital was in 1867. paris commune was in 1871. marx was supportive but also critical of the paris commune, and the mistakes which caused it to fail.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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Whats the TLDR on the picrel rightist getting BTFO?

>>2700704
he went to bully leftoids outside a melenchoid gathering, he got acked

>>2700708
> he got acked
I don't believe it. Have you considered he already had a pre-existing brain injury and simply fell dead as his pre-existing condition was compounded due to his inability to control his high cortisol levels?
Will our comrades go to prison for this?

>>2700714

let us not fall into floyd-deviationism

the melenchonist bloodthirsty petit-bourgeois-lumpen-hooligans killed the right-wing faggot and as communists, we must say it loud and proud

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Why can't rightoids accept the fact that both capitalism AND the government are shit? What kind of pathological mental illness causes this phenomenon?
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>>2700628
>Why can't rightoids accept the fact that both capitalism AND the government are shit?
When will /leftypol/ accept this? Most opinions here are like shitty caricatures from anti-communist propaganda.

Idealism and propaganda

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>>2700628
temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome

>>2700667
beat me too the punch anon, at least here in Burgeria where main character syndrome is basically official state ideology alot of people are allergic to the idea there just another worker who will have to actually work together and organize with a bunch of other workers. Instead there somesort of special indigo child member of the Elect destined to become a small business owner since there a good person with good ideas. If this hasn't happened yet its because [insert scapegoat of the month here]. The simplest way I could describe this is that they're anti-Sonder and anti-Society.


>>2700669
>muh genpol
>muh scurry young people
NGMI



 

What happens to my Coca-Cola after the revolution? What if we can't get the recipe from the CEO? Will we be forced to drink store brand cokes forever?
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>>2700361
Yes, that is exactly what I said.

>>2700312
>What if we can't get the recipe from the CEO?
CEO has no idea about any recipes. You should ask engineers operating the machinery.

>>2700361
>>2700312
Cola should be a once a week drink

>>2700406
No. It should be three times a day and they need to put the cocaine back in.

>>2700334
A lot of people claim this but at the end of the day it doesn't taste the same

>>2700353
>>2700367
>>2700360
So we DON'T seize the means of Coca-Cola production? :'(

>>2700404
The production is separated into multiple factories and assembled at the final factory so that workers don't know the recipe. The meme is that two people know the recipe and they're not allowed to fly on the same plane.

>>2700406
I'm okay with a two cans a week ration if there's actually some.

>>2700603
I'm okay with this too if there's a decaf option



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Serious question. Capitalists hate it, the bourgeois hate it, idpol cucks hate it, the reactionaries hate it. Just because they want to carve their own niche within this pedophobic zeitgeist doesn’t make them consistent.

It should also be noted that all the current nominally communist countries have magic age lines below the Hollywood one of 18, as well as Stalin, Mao, Evo Morales, etc… got laid with JB (with Evo still being persecuted for having sex with someone below the bourgeois magic age line), as well as that the USSR didn’t have a formal age of consent even under Stalin.

I should also point out that being against bourgeois norms isn’t some trendy Tumblr fad, as the Spartacist League opposes the magic age line (a.k.a., the age of consent, which was literally invented by feudal nobility because they found extramarital sex among peasants too icky) and the communist party of Britain (CPB) used to oppose it as well.

On the top of that, since there’s no evidence that intergenerational intimacy is inherently harmful, therefore this isn’t a materialist question of harm as much as a bourgeois dialectics of moralisms after moralisms that only serve to attack working class men.

So again…

Why is youth-love bad?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2700523
Maybe it took some time for that to occur? A slow burn if sorts.

Capitalists don't hate it, the bourgeoisie doesn't hate it, and reactionaries love it.

>>2700517
shut up. you are clearly straw manning. to say that there is a particular section of adults that is minor chasing and calling them "minor attracted persons" as if they are some type of neurodivergent group is some hideous mental illness on your part, or deliberate muddying of the waters. take your loli shit to another site, because that actually belongs on /pol/.

>>2700523
I was in school at that time too, it was just before the internet was widespread and the incel subculture arose, but incels already existed before the subculture, the internet is just the first time crystallized it into a massive grievance group you see today. before that incels were atomized and persecuted losers who were never in a position to find a collective voice by their very position in the social hierarchy of grade school.

>>2700494
also, all of this is to say that teenage women are pubertal, and if you are pubertal you are horny and will sleep with people. Just like younger boys will watch adult porn and jerk off to adult women, so teenage women will also be attracted to older teenagers and adults. The idea that because they are intellectually and emotionally immature, therefore they are not ready for sex, and any sex they have will somehow impede their development and cause permanent trauma, is a bit of an odd argument and I believe is simply just the post-facto justification of the current taboo that arose after age of consent laws were passed and internalized by society at large. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it only just tells us that adults have internalized the rules of society, and that those adults who are against it are usually like >>2700483 says prone to anti-social behavior. However, it is also just as plausible that the waters are muddied by anyone who has an attraction to younger women, because the spectrum of women from roughly 16- 22 can look very similar physically (though mentally the latter is more developed than the former… not by much admittedly, it is only at 25 I would argue that you have the development of an adult brain, and even then the degree of "adult brain" really begins to come together in the early 30s).

>>2700799
In other words, sexual libido and development far, far precedes mental development, it is simply a awkward biological fact that societies handle in a variety of ways. I do not think there is one "correct" way to solve it. Each way of attempting to regulate it comes with its own benefits and downsides. Imposing an age of consent at 18 will have its own pros and cons, and lowering it will also have its own.



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