/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2780224
>It will be an unpopular view but: for the most part deregulation doesn't belong in the list of concessions rolled back. Deregulation is the one good idea neoliberals had. Generally speaking, it is good to just let people do things and it is bad to try to protect worker pay and conditions via rigid regulations that can't respond to changing conditions.
deregulation doesn't refer to merely to letting people "do what they want" but also the rolling back of workplace safety laws, food and drug regulations, environmental and waste disposal regulations, etc.

>>2780149
>Since when funds are surplus?
Because if you're going to have anything leftover after workers have accepted their compensation, there must necessarily be a surplus. This is exactly why Marx criticizes the notion of workers receiving "the undiminished proceeds of labour," since if every worker received their full output as compensation there would be nothing left for the purposes I mentioned.
>Workers state should focus on developing both their internal state and external revolutionary movements without unnecessary separation between them
The Soviets did exactly this though. Even when they were practicing "socialism in one country" they were still supporting communists abroad and of course set up communist governments in Eastern Europe after the war. You're taking the "one country" part too literally, it effectively just meant that the USSR would see to its own development and security first before turning its attention outward.
>>2780281
>The problem with the USSR is that workers had no right of disposal to their product, and were thus still alienated from their labor and society.
What would such a right look like in practice though? If production is subordinated to a central plan, then individual firms and their workers can't be deciding on their own how much to produce, according to what standards, where to distribute their products, etc.
>Likewise the wage relation, commodity production, etc. still existed
The existence of wages is debatable since I would argue that the Soviet system conformed to the criteria for renumeration laid out by Marx in Critique of the Gotha program, though of course they probably could have done more to replace money with something like labour vouchers. I would argue emphatically that commodity production was not generalized however, since goods were produced and distributed according to a common plan for use, not as articles of private exchange for profit seeking purposes.
>You can't advance to communism from here
I don't see why not. Why would a second revolution be necessary to replace Soviet money with labour time calculation?

>>2780583
NTA

state transition has to be possible otherwise you cant explain why the USSR fell and became capitalist again without saying real socialism never existed at all and being idealist

>>2777310
No I wouldn’t, I only invented Communism as a joke and you guys fell for it!

why have there been so many channers here lately? which board did we get posted on?

>>2786488
Faggot

>>2769934
Goth has never been right wing, like ever. If anything it has leaned left. Zoomers can't comprehend that people in the early 70s post-punk scene used offensive imagery for shock value it seems.
Pagans are mostly harmless retarded schizotypal hippies and metalheads for the most part. They shouldn't be encouraged but they're not a threat.
And in any case, so what if a movement has a right wing presence?
Why should leftists surrender whole spheres of art and culture and aesthetics to the right?
That's just granting the right an easy win in the cultural sphere, which translates into a broader propaganda win, and more people into that style of art being funneled into right wing ideology.
It's the moral obligation of the left to claim these things for our own, to push the right out.
If some young person gets into black metal for example and only sees Burzum and Nazi shit they're more likely to become a Nazi. If they get into it and see leftist bands, then maybe they'll head into a left wing pipeline. Don't underestimate the role of soft power and culture in developing a person's personality and beliefs.

Because mainstream western leftism is Nazism with an expanded definition of the master race

>>2770054
Brace Belden, is that you? Do you still claim that you beat up neo-Nazi skinheads during punk concerts in Portland in 2012?

>>2770110
>>2770570
these's also these 'BIPOC' Indigenous revival faiths that are just stylized ceremonies, no one actually believes in them and that they are promoted by a handful of pretentious academics and activists

Minnesota medical drivers plead for help from politicians after national business cancels contract over fraud allegations
A national medical transportation business says allegations of fraud caused it to recently cancel a 20-year contract with a local company. The company says it's not true. From the Minnesota State Capitol steps, a group of roughly 95 non-emergency transportation drivers, most East African, say they're being targeted.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-medical-transportation-drivers-need-help-fraud-allegations/

Minneapolis woman dragged from car by federal agents files legal action
Rahman said an agent punched in her passenger-side window even though her own window was rolled down. A viral video of the altercation shows agents dragging her out of her car while she yells that she’s disabled and trying to go to the doctor. Rahman is autistic and in treatment for a previous traumatic brain injury, which she told agents as they dragged her to an unmarked car. She typically uses a cane.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/04/19/aliya-rahman-dragged-from-car-by-federal-agents-files-legal-action
https://archive.ph/712XQ

States eulogize Charlie Kirk with new laws promoting religion and free speech
A new Kansas law will allow college students to sue their schools for free-speech violations. In Tennessee, a new law will encourage teachers and professors to include “the positive impacts of religion” in American history courses. The common factor: Both are being done in the name of Charlie Kirk.
https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-laws-free-speech-1ef2e977c5cec05c8b521c38dce57443

Wisconsin authorities put total arrests from clashes at beagle breeding facility at about 25
Saturday’s protest was the second attempt in as many months by demonstrators to take bePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Statement on Lebanon by the Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades
The cessation of aggression against Lebanon is the result of the steadfastness of the Lebanese people and their valiant resistance The Front affirmed that forcing the Zionist occupation to halt its aggression is the fruit of the steadfastness of the people of Lebanon and the immense sacrifices made by the valiant resistance, which fought a legitimate defense of Lebanese land, people, and rights.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/31638/

Dockworkers Against Russia’s and Israel’s Wars
Ahead of May Day 2022, two months after Russia’s full-scale attack on Ukraine, Ukrainian trade unionists called for solidarity with the invaded country. Artem Tidva, a Ukrainian left-winger and labor activist, addressed international unions calling for actions to help stop the Russian war machine. In Sweden, such action was already underway. In March 2022, Swedish dockers had begun a blockade of Russian ships. This decision, supported by a nationwide vote among the Swedish Dockworkers’ Union’s approximately one thousand members, highlighted the complicity of global capitalist mechanisms in facilitating Russia’s evasion of sanctions. Yet it also met with resistance from both employers and politicians, and the union faced practical problems in identifying ships belonging to Russia. Yet despite legal challenges, including two lawsuits, Swedish dockers continued their solidarity effort. These efforts earned support in wider society, not least thanks to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky mentioning the action in a speech. Erik Helgeson, a dockworker in Gothenburg for the last twenty years, was one of the union activists involved. Deputy national chairman of the Swedish Dockworkers’ Union, he was fired from his port job in 2025 — this time following another solidarity action, against Israeli shipping. In an interview, Tidva and Hegelson spoke about the Swedish actions and the role of worker solidarity in stopping the machinery of war.
https://jacobin.com/2026/04/sweden-dockworkers-boycott-russia-israel

The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte Chapter I: Feb. 1848 to Dec. 1851
Hegel remarks somewherePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2786736

You're an idealist, plain and simple. You pick a camp like you're picking a character in a video game, then act like there's zero room for critique or movement inside that camp. That doesn't help anyone grow. It just makes you easy to manipulate by people who either fake your politics or actually share them, but then push useless or bad praxis anyway.

This problem is everywhere on the left. Y'all are doing idealism instead of dialectical materialism. End of story.

Marxists refusing to learn from people who are way more active than their own orgs just because those people don't have the same "tendency" label means you don't actually want to build working-class power. You want your specific ideology to win in the marketplace of ideas. And if someone's organizing doesn't match your party line perfectly, you call it deviation and act like supporting them would be giving power to the other idealogue camps. The thing is, Anarchists are guilty of this at times to. Those of us who are most based give zero shits about label, we just want working class power and fury to rise.

Anything else isn't class war. It's a war of idealism. And it's pathetic to be honest.

>>2786764

You aren't slick, I know.

>>2786736
define marxism

The US is already communist and has been since 1865

The robot would kill them out of indifference the way humans kill animals out of indifference, by destroying the environment that supports us and displacing us, that would include the bourgeois. Also they need consumers for whatever they happen to manufacture.

>>2786117
No, how many times do we have to go over this. The bourgeoisie are not magical demons that can do whatever they want. They don't know how to code robots or operate drones, even if they did like in any war the side with more people always wins in the end ffs. The moment that full automation becomes a thing is the moment they no longer have anything to bribe the working class with to prevent their own downfall. If everyone in this scenario is acting out of pure self-interest than any attempted genocide by the upper class towards the lower will just result in an immediate unconcious annihilation of the bourgeois out of self-defense by the working class. IP doesn't grant power, muscle grants power and we have far more of it than them.

>>2786117
This was one of the paths to communism in Four Futures, I believe. The rich kill the proles and live in an automated robo society, money loses meaning, communism achieved. Well, except the part about labor being life's prime want. The gay space communism people always seem to skip that part.

capitalism literally cannot even exist without a proletariat, read a book retards

>Could the Bourgeoisie win the class war by exterminating us?
no
>Say, in the next few years, fat engineers in Silicon Valley invent some robot that can do everything a regular human worker can do.
they cant do that

Oil futures markets open in ~6 hours.

>>2786430
who cares about the oil futures, the sp500 only goes up lol

>>2786329
there's more than one person here m'lawd

And there's always room for *more* hate :-)

>>2786412
go back

Salih Müslim was sent off on his final journey.
Salih Muslim, a member of the Co-Chairmanship Council of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), who died of kidney failure on March 11 in a hospital in Hewler (Erbil), was buried in his hometown of Kobanê. Delegations from North and South Kurdistan attended the funeral ceremony held at the Martyr Dicle Cemetery. At the ceremony, which was attended by tens of thousands of people, a letter sent by Leader Apo (Abdullah Öcalan) after Salih Muslim's death was read aloud.

Speaking at the ceremony, Tuncer Bakırhan, Co-Chair of the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party), said, "We worked closely with Salih Muslim. Comrade Salih was a great diplomat, a great revolutionary. He worked not only for himself but for the entire Kurdish people. Just as Orhan Doğan and Mehmet Sincar are for the people of Bakur (Northern Kurdistan), Salih Muslim is for Rojava (Western Kurdistan). May your path be clear, Comrade Salih. Our condolences to the Kurdish people."

Kurdish politician Leyla Zana said, "The path of hope opened by the great Salih Muslim will illuminate our way. The suffering we have endured for centuries must end. I also respectfully commemorate the martyrs who were laid to rest yesterday. We have reached this stage with great sacrifices. We are going through a process where we will either live freely or we will live freely. Chairman Apo speaks of democratic unity, and therefore everyone must take responsibility for their part. Today, the world is facing crises. Because there is a circle of fire. However, it is the Kurdish people who are full of hope. We will further increase our hopes. Today is better than yesterday, and tomorrow will be even better than today. We will lean on our people. When we have confidence in ourselves, the whole world will respect us. We will strive even harder to live freely. They deem death worthy of us, but no, we are building life."

Kobanê is an example for us. I am at the service of this people. And I will continue to be so after this process. If we are united, we are a great force. We will lead the way to a free life. We are ready to be friends with all peoples. I hope we will experience our best moments together. I participated in a program with Comrade Salih. Despite having difficulty breathing, he wanted to ensure that not a single minute was wasted. He didn't want a single minute to be wasted for the Kurdish people. I belPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Israel said it carried out airstrikes on Syrian army positions overnight on Thursday, claiming the attacks were in response to violence against Druze civilians in southern Syria, amid intensifying clashes in Suweida province.

"Overnight, the IDF struck a headquarters and weapons at Syrian regime military camps in southern Syria," the Israeli military said, according to AFP.

Clashes in Suweida erupted on Thursday between government forces and allied tribal fighters and Druze factions, according to local sources.

Syrian state media did not acknowledge the clashes or the Israeli strikes.

“The IDF will not allow harm to come to Druze in Syria and will continue to act for their protection,” a statement from the Israeli military said.

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-strikes-syria-under-pretext-protecting-druze

Newroz in Damascus. Interesting.

protest against the new anti-alcohol laws

Intense activity on the Damascus-Rojava front: Integration, job offers, and returns are on the table.
During meetings held in Damascus on April 16, Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) Commander Mazlum Abdi, Autonomous Administration Foreign Relations Officer Ilham Ahmed, Interim Government Head Ahmed Shara, Foreign Minister Asad Sheibani, and Presidential Advisor Ziyad al-Aish came together.
The meeting addressed key political and security issues in Syria, the advancement of the integration process, and the timeline for the implementation of necessary measures. It was noted that the parties conducted a comprehensive and detailed assessment, particularly regarding the implementation of the military, administrative, and political arrangements defined within the framework of the January 29th Agreement.
The main focus of the meeting was on the topics discussed in Damascus, the stage of the integration process, the steps that need to be taken along the Rojava-Damascus line, and how the situation on the ground is developing.

According to information we received from local sources, the question Ahmed Shara posed to Mazlum Abdi during their meeting – "When are you coming to Damascus?" – is noteworthy. In the past, it was known that Mazlum Abdi had stated, "Instead of a presidential election, I will be among my people and involved in national unity efforts." However, as this meeting indicates, Ahmed Shara considers Mazlum Abdi's involvement in Damascus a vital and unavoidable step. Abdi's move to Damascus, whether as vice president or in another capacity, is seen as critical for the implementation of the January 29th Agreement and for the resolution of political issues in Syria through coordination between the SDF and Damascus.

<THE GOVERNANCE OF A SHARED SYRIAN INTEGRITY IS BEING DISCUSSED.
There is a topic that came up between the SDF and Damascus even before the April 16 meeting. According to local sources, Damascus had conveyed to SDF-Autonomous Administration officials in previous meetings a request for an individual who could serve in the Syrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Although there has been no official statement from the Syrian Interim Government on this matter, it is clear that this is a topic related to the integration process.

<INTERIM FORMULA FOR YPJ
During the visit of the Women's Protection Units (YPJ) delPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Very clear that the main character being red is an homage to the Soviet Union.

<The main story of the games and the movie are about the birds fighting back against colonial oppressors who want to eat their children.

<Said colonial oppressors are literal porkies who are colored green

<The pig society is an imperialist monarchy ruled by King Pig.

<In the movie, the pigs come to bird Island to share their "knowledge" with the birds but are in reality there to steal their resources (eggs) and exploit them.

Op is unironically correct.

>>2785950
Not that anon, but I think I get what he’s saying. It does feel like the New-left/Critical Theorist ideas about race are irreverent, because they largely depended on stable capitalist liberal societies to function and those systems seem to be changing or breaking down.

My glowie senses are tingling. I'm noticing an increase is typical bullshit arguments and discussions that retread age old conflicts that were resolved long ago.

>>2785953
Literally the point of postmodernism, reject any basis from before and try to be critical of everything that has ever been thought before so you can the most original political ideas (Neoliberalism with different names)

>class is not a concept good enough to replace it
show your working uygha class analysis is literally all there is we have like two centuries of thought and praxis proving this otherwise im just gonna assume youre another well poisoning neoliberal many such cases

Yes you have more in common with Elon Musk than someone flipping burgers at McDonald's because both of you think transhumanist bathrooms cringe

>>2786202
So you’re problem is specifically with bipedal robots or any legs at all I guess

>>2786210
I didn't make the post but that's what I heard, legs are unstable and it can easily fall down, etc

>>2786216
Yeah, but wheels don’t work for stairs and tracks are a quite rigid solution. If bipedal is mastered it would be the most flexible solution.

>>2786239
True that wheels dont work for stairs in the typical design but most robots wouldnt need to go up and down stairs. There's also like triangular wheeled arrangements that can go up stairs (albeit slowly).

Bipedal robots usually just feel like silicon valley pablum, you're left to imagine 'what if it could do everything a person can', but it can't, so it's silly. You know what robot I like? Those automatic fruit/veg pickers, they actually seem to work correctly. I don't believe there's any two legged robots actually in real 'work' at the moment.

>>2786241
Wheeled robots, tracked robots and stationary robots will make up the vast majority of robots in usage, and even quadropedel are going to be preferred over bipedal, so you’re right.