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Why wasn’t there any type of De-Maoization?
When Nikita Khrushchev took office after Stalin he went on a campaign of de-Stalinization where statues of Stalin were torn down and streets and cities named after him were renamed. Why didn’t Deng Xiaoping do the same with Mao Zedong? I’m not saying that Deng should have or shouldn’t have but I’m just wondering why. Because Mao is still celebrating in China and seen as a great figure who only made a few mistakes.
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>>2531318

Do you have any non-CIA bitch source to site for that ?

>>2531366
Pakistan won

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>>2530049
There was a de-Hua Guofeng-ization. Mao's successor had his own cult of personality for 2 years and it got completely dismantled to the point that his death in 2008 was barely noticed.

>>2531366
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia are literal CIA propaganda outlets. Consider shooting yourself.

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Do you support regime change in Venezuela? Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://willPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2574582
this is why i keep posting the marx quote about crude communism while also acknowledging the existence of labor aristocracy. that is the correct position: >>2574396

>>2574583
>uh no lol. You're not getting that correct. It wasn't even really a flame war. It was a lot of things. Maybe don't try to bring it up again
Actually I did. It was half flame war, and half just unloading brain farts while pretending to be smart.

>>2574576
No we can’t rest on our laurels, if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is, the tea party psychos of yesteryear are moderates compared to tpublicans and they’re getting punched from the right by gryopers.

>>2574573
>things never said
>the reply.
>>2574575
>>2574569
they are juicy even if you are a new hire, much better than the average market.

>>2574593
>if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is
just one problem, m8, the reactionaries can afford to do that because they are hegemonic and showered with money by the Thiels and Kochs of the world, while the DSAcels are cucked into tailing the DNC



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https://www.jpost.com/aliyah/article-874914

Imagine your religion entitles you to real estate in Palestine

>Gov't approves plan to bring India's remaining 'lost tribe' Bnei Menashe back to Israel

>The new immigrants will undergo Orthodox conversion through the Chief Rabbinate and will mainly settle in Nof HaGalil and other northern communities.



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I have recently noticed a tendency on here, X, reddit, and other places to call any anti-Amerikkkan a "Third-Worldist". According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west (huh sounds familiar now that I think about it). And apparently it is a particular tendency of Maoism that is leading the charge of this crusade. Has anyone actually seen these so-called "Third-Worldists" advocate for killing all white people and their children? If so they should certainly be taken care of! We can't have a group of evil child killing zealots who are over-attached to a particular identity running around our proud leftist image board defending these things for literally no reason! Infact I really think we should be banning anyone who opposes the USA or the west in general because it's possible that anyone criticizing Amerikkka could be a ScArY "Third-Worldist".

But if indeed they don't exist, can someone kindly explain to me why Amerikkkan's seem to be so obssessed with calling everyone who point's out their benefitting from multiple historical and ongoing genocides one? Or really why westerner's in general are so insecure when you point out how their national self-conceptions in general are soaked in blood? Oh look at me going and strawmanning again, welp atleast someone on this board has some self-awareness.
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>>2574501
I was gonna say, saying shit like
> According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west

Is why people *actually* can't stand third worldists. Third Worldists constantly strawman criticisms of their position in bad-faith, where anyone who disagrees with them is assumed to be on the same page as a racist or pro-imperialist and therefore must be killed by JDPON, and then pull a motte-and-bailey fallacy where they claim they're not actually saying that.

And here's the thing - christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.

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>>2574505
> christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.
I mean both groups unironically believe in picrel and all the racial essentialism that comes with it, the only difference is who they think the intrinsically noble civilization is

>>2557921
OP, the reason you people get criticized isn't for opposing imperialist governments, it's for picking fights with comrades in the core constantly while strawmanning their criticisms of your position.

No, leftists in the core who think you're wrong aren't "Being mad that you want to take their treats away," they think your analyses regarding the labor aristocracy and the reasons revolution hasn't happened yet are wrong, because they fly in the face of their own experiences.

>>2574512
This needs to be stickied. The perfect rebuttal

>>2574513
third-worldists treat their theory the way bourgeois economists treat orthodox economics - if the facts don't fit their theory, then it's assumed that reality is in error, not the theory!



 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/23/ohvk-n23.html
/leftypol/ in shambles as the World Socialist Website launches the first ever SOCIALISM AI, a revolutionary tool that will harness artificial intelligence for the development of socialist consciousness in the international working class.

>North stressed that Socialism AI “will not be programmed as the existing chatbots are to provide an answer which has been conditioned by the establishment media.” Rather, “It will provide an accurate, thoroughly researched reply to critical issues which arise in the day to day struggles of the working class. It will answer questions posed by intellectuals, students, youth on a vast range of questions, and will give answers which reflect and express the interests of the working class.”


>This application of the most advanced productive forces to the transformation of consciousness has vast significance. It makes available instantly and globally the theoretical resources, the historical analysis, the programmatic clarity necessary for the working class to understand its historic mission and seize power.


Will this spell the end of the falsifying pseudo-left? Will AI make theory shitposting obsolete? Will a Trotsky LLM lead the revolution? Only time will tell…
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wake me up when they test an algorithmic intelligence on a hypothetical planned economy

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>weird sex website has automated their sex pestery


butthole logo

>>2574201
>You would have all of Marxist theory on your phone.
marxists.org has existed since the 1990s



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>Blue Labour is a British campaign group and political faction that seeks to promote blue-collar and culturally conservative values within the British Labour Party – particularly on immigration, crime, EDI and community spirit – while remaining committed to labour rights and left-wing economic policies.
Is this the future of left-wing politics?
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>>2536161
How did it go for the BSW lmao

>>2574084
noooo you stupid ultra chud this is how we win the election! aren't you worried about farage m8?

>>2536161
Imagine being British and using the term 'blue collar'

>>2536161
This must be the most inefficient lobby roup in history

Is China soft on crime? Do they support mass immigration?



 

What does leftypol think of animal rights?

Personally I believe proles are valued the same as cattle, and that we should liberate both nature and humanity. I have also been a long-term vegetarian
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I grew up learning how to fish and hunt and I have already killed and eaten more animals than I can count, so I feel like any opinion I could have about animal rights is kind of meaningless at this point. I do think factory farming is pretty gross, but that goes for every kind of industrial mass production, humans taking more than they need from the Earth to make profit instead of just taking what is needed - I think that is what is gross and immoral, not killing an animal for food.

I think that humans and animals are of equal worth.
Im joking but I do support animal rights

>>2545913
>What does leftypol think of animal rights?
Im very much pro-environment and animal rights but this politics always comes second to class struggle.

>>2545913
not a priority, but the animal holocaust is real and irrational and should be dealt with eventually

>>2545913
don't care humanity matters more



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Yanis Varoufakis, the firebrand economist who rose to fame at the height of Greece’s debt drama, was not only egotistical but ultimately more interested in testing out his game theories on the nation than winning its battle to keep afloat.

So writes the former prime minister Alexis Tsipras in his newly released memoir, Ithaki, as the once radical leftwing leader, sparing no punches, seeks, 10 years later, to put the record straight.

“He was, in reality, more of a celebrity and less of an economist,” recalled the 51-year-old, who described handpicking the maverick as his finance minister because of his international reputation and “extremely attractive” skills as a public orator.

“I wanted an honourable agreement within the eurozone,” Tsipras wrote, “but we also didn’t hide the fact that we wanted radical change in Europe, that we wanted to stop the imposition of the economic absurdity of neoliberalism not only in Greece but from one end of the continent to the other.”

“I wanted to send the message of hard negotiation, but I underestimated the human factor. Very quickly, Varoufakis turned from being an asset into a negative protagonist. Not only could our potential allies not stand him, neither could his own colleagues.”

In a chronicle of events that has been quick to send ripples through Greece, Tsipras, who appears bent on staging a political comeback two years after renouncing the leadership of the Syriza party, said it was clear the Greek Australian academic had a personal agenda that included promoting his books.


Negotiations to stave off bankruptcy were “not just a way of achieving a better deal for the country. They were an experiment, an historic opportunity to prove the truth of his economic theories,” Tsipras wrote.

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sir this is a marxist subreddit take your goofy ahh hitlerite drama somewhere else

>>2573128
My main problem is that

I like varkoufis a bit more now

>>2573031
lmao what a slimy fuck. so varoufakis´ biggest sin was, what? being arrogant and annoying? Tsipras RAN on avoiding austerity for Greece. nobody forced him to do that.

>>2573658
>>2573128
>>2573031

ΚΚΕ Πάλη Τιμημένο.

Για χρόνια το κόμμα προειδοποιούσε ότι ο σοσιαλδημοκρατικος οπορτουνισμος στην καινούριες μορφές του δεν θα είχε καλό αποτέλεσμα για το λαό στης συγκεκριμένες συνθήκες της πρόσφατης καπιταλιστήκης κρίσης.



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Belgium grinds to a halt in three day general strike against austerity
It was the 13th national strike since Prime Minister Bart de Wever’s five-party right-wing coalition took office in February. Transport was brought to a standstill by the industrial action, which was joined today by teachers, healthcare staff and postal workers. A walkout across multiple sectors is planned for tomorrow.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/belgium-grinds-halt-three-day-general-strike-against-austerity

Farmers decide to blockade roads, ports
The farmers are protesting high production costs and what they term the collapse in producer prices. They demand minimum guaranteed prices and effective measures against the smallpox that has decimated sheep and goats since August 2024.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/economy/1287680/farmers-decide-to-blockade-roads-ports/

Zuma-Mncube opens criminal case against Zuma-Sambudla, others
Former President Jacob Zuma’s daughter, Nkosazana Bonganini Zuma-Mncube, has opened a criminal case against Duduzile Zuma-Sambudla, Siphokazi Xuma and Blessing Khoza. This relates to 17 South Africans who are trapped in the Ukraine-Russian war.
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/1084838-2/?hilite=lured+Russia+under

MSF pulls out of Darfur hospital after fatal shooting
The victim, who worked for Sudan's health ministry, was killed outside the Zalingei Hospital on November 18 in an incident in which four others were also wounded, MSF said. The facility is located in central Darfur state, in an area controlled by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces and removed from the front lines of the conflict with Sudan's army.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/msf-pulls-out-darfur-hospital-after-fatal-shooting-2025-11-25/
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Trump administration to retroactively vet refugees already resettled in US
The memo, signed by US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Joseph Edlow, said that refugees who are found to have failed to meet the standards for resettlement would have their legal status revoked. “Given these concerns, USCIS has determined that a comprehensive review and a re-interview of all refugees admitted from January 20, 2021, to February 20, 2025, is warranted,” the memo stated.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/25/trump-administration-to-retroactively-vet-refugees-already-resettled-in-us
https://archive.ph/gHZtp

California is considering cutting power company profits to historic lows, but bills will barely drop
In a proposed decision, the California Public Utilities Commission recommended dropping the “return on equity” by 0.35% each for Pacific Gas & Electric, Southern California Edison and San Diego Gas & Electric. If approved, shareholders of all three companies would see a potential return next year of just under 10%. Such returns for PG&E and Edison haven’t dipped below double digits in at least 20 years.
https://apnews.com/article/pg-e-corp-sempra-california-utilities-taxes-0f985b7ea71e29b04f48eb6589f7c7b2

US Education Department investigates University of California, Berkeley over Turning Point USA protest
The department's Office of Federal Student Aid will investigate whether UC Berkeley violated the Clery Act, which requires higher education institutions that receive federal funding to collect, report, and disseminate crime data to the public, support victims of violence, and publicly outline their policies and systems for improving campus safety.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-education-department-investigates-university-california-berkelePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Where does the RCP stand on ‘Your Party’?
In July, Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana announced the formation of a new political party. That provoked a wave of enthusiasm, with 800,000 people signing up for a left-wing alternative to Starmer’s hated Labour. At that time, the potential for this new party was enormous. It could have given political expression to the pro-Palestine movement and all the strike action erupting across the country. Corbyn and Sultana could also have coordinated opposition to Trump’s state visit to the UK, and to Tommy Robinson’s ‘Unite the Kingdom’ demonstration in September. They could have attacked the rich and the capitalist system as the cause of the crisis in Britain, instead of allowing Farage to dominate with his anti-immigrant rhetoric. They could have raised millions in small donations, like Mamdani in New York, to hold rallies and conferences all over the country. Starting with 800,000 people, if Corbyn and Sultana had connected with the mood that exists in Britain today, they could have been at the head of a movement of millions by now. Unfortunately, we couldn’t be farther from that today.
https://communist.red/where-does-the-rcp-stand-on-your-party/

You Can’t Just Wish Away Jeffrey Epstein’s Israel Ties
It’s not hard to imagine what would happen if the Jeffrey Epstein saga had any other country at its center. If the well-connected billionaire sex trafficker was rumored to have ties to the ruling elite and intelligence agencies of, say, Thailand; if emails showed him repeatedly hosting a Thai intelligence officer at his house; if they showed him doing secret, back-channel work for the Thai government through his friendship with a former Thai prime minister; if in private messages, he claimed that he had been involved in that former prime minister’s return to politics in a recent Thai election, aimed at toppling the country’s sitting leader from power — if any of this happened, it would obviously be a massive scandal that would prompt many more questions about that billionaire’s exact relationship to Thailand and its intelligence agencies, particularly given how close he was with various members of the US elite, including one former president and the one currently in office. It would also no doubt be a major scandal in Thailand itself, iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



 

Spartan society is unique and rare in slave societies through history. The majority of its society was made of slaves: 100 000 Helots, and only around 8000 Spartans. The question naturally arises: How comes the minority rule over the majority?

Humanity is facing a similar situation, power in the hands of a few thousands, yet billions of people can't free themselves. So the question remains: how comes the minority rule over the majority?

David Hume attempted to wisely answer such question:

"Nothing is more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than to see the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and to observe the implicit submission with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers.

When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded."

As such, to change society masses to change opinion. It is, therefore, political education the most important task of the revolutionary.
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>>2564333
>Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy

I'd say it isn't, it just so happens that those who hold power within the state also think highly of morals and values etc. but theoretically the state could do whatever the fuck it wants and it could get away with it

>As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way


that might depend but it doesn't change the fact that thinking about criticism like that is still ideology and love for the system, this sort of theoretical attitude only accepts critique of anything if it has any proof of being succesful without actually considering its arguments (that's the reasoning behind the classic line "what's the alternative though?")

>>2547502
>The majority of its society was made of slaves
That was common i the ancient world. Sparta just had much more and the slaves were greeks.

The Roman proletariat lived at the expense of society, while modern society lives at the expense of the proletariat.

>>2557523
>organization, discipline
The German revolution had those and it still got crushed

>>2572527
Not enough numbers though



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