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​"True, the productive forces, practice and the economic base generally play the principal and decisive role; whoever denies this is not a materialist. But it must also be admitted that in certain conditions, such aspects as the relations of production, theory and the superstructure in turn manifest themselves in the principal and decisive role."
​Mao Zedong, "On Contradiction" (August 1937)

​"This means that, on the basis of the existing productive forces and within their limits, it is the relations of production that play the decisive role. The whole of Capital, and all the works of Lenin and Mao Zedong, serve as a commentary on this thesis, which has never been recognized by Marxists."
​Louis Althusser, "On the Reproduction of Capital" / "On the Relations of Production" (written 1969-1973, published posthumously).

​"The changes and development of production always begin with changes and development of the productive forces, and in the first place, with changes and development of the instruments of production. Productive forces are therefore the most mobile and revolutionary element of production. First the productive forces of society change and develop, and then, depending on these changes and in conformity with them, men's relations of production, their economic relations, change.
​Relations of production develop depending on the development of the productive forces, but they, in their turn, react upon the development of productive forces, accelerating or retarding it. And it must be noted that the relations of production cannot postpone lagging behind the growth of the productive forces and being in contradiction to them for too long, for the productive forces can develop to the full only when the relations of production correspond to the nature and state of the productive forces and allow full scope for their development."
​Joseph Stalin, "Dialectical and Historical Materialism" (September 1938)

well well well…

Bukharin has had a greater influence on Chinese Marxism than Mao. Mao is often viewed as a rural yokel who was useful for winning the revolution, but outside of a small group of unusual, self-loathing Westerners, few people take him seriously as a Marxist theorist.

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>>2864992
>Bukharin has had a greater influence on Chinese Marxism than Mao.
Proof?



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We live in capitalist societies, where money and time are the fundamental resources for building power. Almost every other resource can be purchased or built from these, or will be boosted by these. Therefore, it is most vital that you make money and put it to work.

The only real limit to these money-raising methods should be, "how could this negatively affect the movement?" Consider the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery by Bolsheviks - this event's recklessness and harm to civilians seriously damaged the Bolsheviks' reputation in Georgia and among other socialists. Contrast that against the 1906 Helsinki bank robbery, the Dusheti treasury heist and the Bezdany raid by various socialist organizations, which had no citizen casualties.

If you can do so with little risk, you absolutely should be pirating entertainment media, shoplifting and investing in mutual funds.

More so, if you are not publicly affiliated with the socialist movement, and you have the means, you should be buying property, owning factories or being a landlord. If your tenants and workers aren't socialists, it's very important for you to take as much of their money as you pragmatically can and use it to combat capitalism.

Remember: the status quo is destroying more people than you could ever hope to. To do nothing is harmful.
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>>2865685
At least it's not RP. Critsup for OP

>robbery and grand theft auto
How about the stock market? That's what the visible half of porky does, isn't it? The other half does do violent heists and such, the cartels and mafias and the big bourg are one and the same in the big 2020s after all.

As a barely literate thirdoid who makes around 1800 USD a month I don't know a thing 'bout moni all I know is that on my job I get paid in the last week of the month if I work for jobsman and then I'm happy

I tried looking at the stock market a few times but there are way too many big boy words going on in there and my mind just keeps concluding it's a retarded and debauched casino to save myself some energy then I walk away everytime

>>2865965
Stock market is the best solution right now, banks don't store that much money on premises anymore. Remember that US Megachurches/Televangelists encourage all their listeners to donate 10% of their salaries to them, no matter how poor they are. Imagine if every socialist in the world saved 5% of their salary, invested it in the stock market, and let it grow so they can donate it to their party.

>>2865685
You can't larp on the internet by definition.

take out power substations in areas with gun stores. go rob the gun stores while the cameras and alarms are off. go back and kill whoever is repairing the substation. Steal their truck. Take out more substations while disguised as electricians. rinse and repeat. Distract cops and firefighters with arson then loot police and fire stations.



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Why are so many modern communists obsessed with liberal concept of indigenous rights? When communists dont believe in land ownership or inheritance.

>Body too short

>Body too short
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>>2864622
>I wanted to see if the discussion actually lead anywhere
well it could if you put as much effort into answering my questions as i put into answering your questions, but your brain won't let you.
>>2864626
don't let this anon get under your skin

>>2864643
>well it could if you put as much effort into answering my questions
Your questions were shit and required more context you failed to provide.
>>2864626
The sky is not relevant to this discussion, so no.

>>2864594
I agree that you can't just sweep things under the rug, but by definition if you have universal equal rights to employment, housing, education, etc combined with socialist relations of production then by definition you can't "reproduce those same relations" of settler colonialism and slavery. That's just a huge exaggeration. At most you might have lingering discrimination in some areas, but even just removing the capitalist basis of the economy would dramatically improve the conditions of oppressed nations in America.

>>2864691
>Your questions were shit and required more context you failed to provide.

for those who haven't read the entire conversation, these were the questions


>if you suffer a traumatic brain injury, are you the same person as before? I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does your brain produce the same behavioral outputs it would have produced had you not received any brain damage? I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does a person with brain damage process stimuli as quickly and reliably as a person without brain damage?


>I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does a person with brain damage process stimuli and produce outputs as quickly or reliably or accurately as a person without brain damage? I say no. Do you

>>2838819
>Why are so many modern communists obsessed with liberal concept of indigenous rights
because they're blood and soil SJWs hypnotized by woke hitlerism



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Hi I am sigmort I am a left chud which means I am a chud if a chud were left




I molest neo liberals,I goon to goth girls, I think about the Vietnam war, and the roman empire

DIE AMERIKKKAN TOTAL CANADIAN VICTORY

what kind of name is sigmort



 

This site has no WHOIS or RDAP available so you know what that means. They sell stahlhelm themed, 3D printed bottle covers. This is exactly the kind of kitsch shit that neofascists love to hock on X.

https://capsalute.shop/

whois capsalute.shop
Notice: Effective May 1, 2026, the WHOIS service has been retired in accordance with ICANN's RDAP transition policy. All registration data queries are now served via RDAP. The Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) base URL is: https://rdap.gmoregistry.net/rdap/

rdap capsalute.shop
# Error: No RDAP servers responded successfully (tried 1 server(s))
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>>2863943
I know you're joking but unironically we should all get together and make some kind of business to appeal to rightoids and then give the profit to Palestinian charities or something

>>2863932
It kinda l9oks like the bottle is pointing a luger at its head

>>2863948
>>2863948
>It kinda l9oks like the bottle is pointing a luger at its head
😂

>>2863940
cute! idk why anyone would pay for it though

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>>2863943
we salute our heroes



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REAL, NOT CLICKBAIT, NOT A DRILL, THE CHICAGO POPE CRACKS DOWN

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-07/holy-see-decrees-excommunication-lefebrians-consecrations.html

As a result of escalating tensions revolving around some unapproved bishop appointments, it's officially happened: the Vatican has declared the tradcath Society of Saint Pius X to be schismatic and therefor not just its bishops but lay practitioners too are excommunicated. While the largest amount of tradcaths tend to congregate in America there's still plenty spread out all over the world. What are the implications of this split? Possible Antipope soon?
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>>2859714
you can cultivate it yourself. its not hard and isn't very expensive.

>>2859707
I’ve had some wild experiences on Mushrooms but I don’t think I’ve really had religious ecstasy from it.

TBH I think the “mystical” elements of religion are so completely ignored in modernity that people kind of dismiss what religious thinkers went through with “lol they must’ve been high”

Within the more mystical strains of Judaism, for example (I think you can learn more from studying “Merkevah Mysticism” or “Chariot mysticism”) there were religious/historical figures whose mystical experiences had such a profound effect on themselves that one became a “messiah” contender and disrupted Jewish society by preaching whatever their form of “heresy” is while another allegedly went incurably insane. For many of these people the experiences were so profound that many were willing to die (or, sadly, kill) for their beliefs.

So when these ancient Rabbis talk about seeing the chariot of God and going mad, I think it’s important to know that to many of these people their experiences were profoundly real.

>>2864015
I’m not a Gnostic or a scholar, but I’ve been on a Gnostic text binge lately so if you’ve got questions about Gnosticism contra Catholicism, I can try to answer as best I can.


Liberation Theology BTFO

>>2864085
>Liberation Theology BTFO
>look inside
>refutation from a theological perspective
ugh



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>be Israel
>starts the 1982 Lebanon war over an Israeli ambassador to the UK being shot and injured which Israel blamed on the PLO
>so Israel takes all of Southern Lebanon up to the Litani river and that was when Hezbollah was created while the spineless Lebanese military does nothing
>over the span of 18 years, Hezbollah takes back all of Lebanon by 2000
>after the Israeli withdrawal, they try again in 2006 but get kicked out by Hezbollah again, despite heavy civilian losses
>two years later, after two defeats, Israel launches Operation Cast Lead in Gaza and kills 1,000 people, including 300 children as a message to Iran all over claims of Hamas building a tunnel
>now Israel is trying again with Hezbollah, they are trying to do what David Ben-Gurion talked about for years

Jesus Christ, when will they just fuck off?
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>>2863277
Didn't Iran want the US to invade Iraq?


>>2863425
Proof?

>>2863397
I am covenant theology and NIFB. The church has replaced Israel because of the historical context of the law ending in 33 AD with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and 70 AD with the destruction of the 2nd temple in Jerusalem by Titus Flavius. James says to break one law is to be guilty of all. And what is the wages of sin? DEATH! That's why people sacrificed chickens, goats and oxes for burnt offerings. It covered sins but the blood of sheeps and bulls cannot remove sin. Only the blood, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ can do that. However, I do believe that in the Old Testament, salvation worked differently. The holy spirit wasn't required and when people did receive it, they could lose it. King David even wrote in one of the Psalms take not your holy spirit from me. But in the NT, the holy spirit is required for salvation and once you receive it by believing in the blood, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you are sealed to the day of redemption. The Bible says they have eternal life. That's PRESENT-TENSE, not future. There is no backsliding. You can still sin, but no one born of God commits sin. That's because they have the holy ghost. Paul even said it is not I that sin but the spirit of sin that lives within me. Your flesh still sins. But some people who make it to Heaven are gonna be left with no rewards after the judgment seat of Christ. That's why you continue in belief and not apostatize so you can be given the crown of life. The Bible says that there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus. Obviously, unsaved Israel is not blessed by God. The answer to Genesis 12:5 is Galatians 3:16. It didn't mean God will bless those that bless Israel, it said ABRAHAM'S SEED! Jews butcher the NT. Rabbi Tovias Singer cannot read his own book.

>>2863502
multipolar cucks want you to forget that



 

Why do almost all modern "communist" party members look like 'that'.
I sound like a conservative here but all communists nowadays look fat and uncared for. Aren't ML parties supposed to prepare a vanguard for the revolution? If so why do most ML parties have members like slobs? Every time I look at my local communist org I get repulsed and honestly, if I weren't a communist myself, I would never take them seriously.
What is the solution to this degeneracy?
>pic kind of related
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>>2853790
good chance of that or he follows leftypol/leftypol adjacent accounts on twitter

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>>2853449
Least of our problems when proletarians ask why "socialism failed" in the USSR.

>omg fellow commies, does anyone else think we're all fat and ugly teehee. why don't we all wear suits and rant about degeneracy

>>2853785
>>2863757
oh god oh fuck



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I look at early Science fiction, and it seems a lot of it before the 50's had a communist character to it - thinking of stuff like "Red Star" or the whole topic of Russian Cosmism, it seems a lot of this got swallowed up by liberal and pro-colonial science fiction (starship troopers, star trek). So what happened? How would you contrast proletarian science fiction and bourgeoisie science fiction generally?
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you can also check this thread on /hobby/
>>>/hobby/2419

>starship troooooopers
>Pro-colonial

>>2863528
Might not be colonial but it sure compares the bugs to chinese communists

>>2863286

Bull’s Hour is the sequel and it’s also excellent!

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>>2862633
proletarian science fiction would have to incorporate as many elements as possible from pic related



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Let's imagine an economy where production and distribution is determined through a plan, where workers obey an elected factory manager, and where there is no massive corruption or parallel market activity.
How would the following issues be solved ?

>information problem

How do you determine where to allocate labor, and where to distribute the products

>Under/Over reporting problem

There is an incentive gap between the workers at a factory tasked with production, and the planners who do not know how much they can produce.
How do you make certain that the workers are truthful about their productive capacities ?

>innovation problem

How do you make sure that there workers aim at adopting and implementing new technologies to the fullest extent possible, and that they also try to develop local innovations by themselves.
In essence, how do you make sure that the workers use the most efficient means of production.

>ECP/Price determination

If the economy is currency-less, how do you determine opportunity-costs ? If there is some form of tractability between goods, how do you determine the prices of different goods.
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>>2858541
yeah, dirt cheap travel by plane is totally a prerequisite for a functioning market economy and not an example of the excesses and wastefulness of it. boeing becoming a dysfunctional quasi state enterprise that lost its core competency in engineering and manufacturing functional air planes is a great example for how well the market is able to allocate ressources in an efficient manner.
you ignoring every good faith post giving you arguments isn't you being a dishonest wrecker moron.

its totally us who are lazy and combatative and not you who has not a single clue about even the most basic fundamentals of political economy; or how a modern manufacturing supply chain operates end to end.

>>2858806
  1. (you) every post you think is mine, I need a good laugh
  2. yes, people being able to travel is good, actually.
  3. you can't accuse me of blaming the state for boeing's failures and then turn around to claim I'm using it being a quasi state entity as an example of market efficiency. this is just incoherent. stop seething and think before you post. (after you hastily (you) half the thread, of course.)

>>2858861
Nothing and no one will ever travel, that’s immigration and it’s scabbing

>>2856695
OP Please read through >>2566144

>>2863944
you guys have had so many versions of that great thread which don't get archived meanwhile the shitty burger thread always gets archived



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