/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Just a missguided form of class anger that's end reaction is usually a mass shooting.

>law enforcement agencies
Don’t care what illiterate porky shocktroopers think

>>2884896
All of those mass shooters have either a direct and/or indirect (via immediate family) connection to state militaries and security apparatuses.

>>2884896
The US populace is highly medicated. If that were the case the streets would be a warzone. I bet WITHOUT these medications (and other treats and pacificsation tools, screens, entertainment, music, porn, etc.) it would get much worse.

>>2890519
I don't think it's all pacification tbh. After all politics is done, what next? More politics? Happiness?

I'm referring to the arrival fallacy of course. Unless an individual has an idea of their own retirement from politics, they possess Yukio Mishima's bullshido madness >>2885001

Bruce Lee was better anyway.

The thing with the "oligarchic world" is it's extremely easy for both state actors even at their weakest point or just lone wolf types to litteraly kill said oligarch and their family therefore to submit them, and they are well aware of that. I mean look at what Putin did.
Nobody is actually ready to die for Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, they can't buy honor and fidelity just mercenaries, nobody was even really ready to die for Walt Dysney and Henry Ford and these guys were actually geniuses.

It doesnt matter if Trump is a retard if he want he can litteraly ask his supporter both in the civilian population or the federal agencies to murder wathever billionaire he dislike and theyll do it and hell get away with it, likewise for a lib president. The power of the oligarch is extremely fake and gay, there's a reason Tyler Robinson freaked them out so much recently to the point of implicitely backing down on their RW signaling, they litteraly did nothing as a response for a reason.

The Russian state has been completely pillaged and the copper wires stolen after 1991, the military was in shamble and it took Putin what? 5 years to submit these guys? No need to make mountains out of molehills.

>>2888791
>then started astroturfing people curtis yarvin out of goddamn nowhere to spread and manufacture consent for a corporate and libertarian society,
No, not out of nowhere. That kind of stuff has been around for a long while and needs deconstructing.
>>2884944
>>2885001

>>2890487
Why all the violence? The people have to want the right thing?

>>2848797
Was it "Red China's Green Revolution" by Joshua Eisenman?

>>2848798
I don't think so but thanks for the recommendation

I wish the Chinese proletarian Maoists well
Talk about a concentration of the revolutionary subject holy shit

what kind of "maoism" MLM? MZT? M3W?

>>2848797

https://pdfhost.io/v/yRUsEMAX63_All_power_to_the_masses_copy

Is this what you're looking for?

>>2890134
Well currently Chinese are occupying learned institutes so they obviously would call for such a thing. As far as intelligence goes a concrete definition of it has not been defined.

>>2890143
>Well currently Chinese are occupying learned institutes
what does that have to do with "philosopher kings"
>so they obviously would call for such a thing
1 question, 2 statements

1. why should i care what any one "calls for" instead of what they actually do?
   
2. I see no evidence that they would "call for" philosopher kings
   
3. your conclusion is completely unrelated to your premise. "occupying learned institutes" has nothing to do with "philosopher kings" or even with the more general "rule by the wise" since a person can be wise without being educated, and vice-versa.

aristocracy can be argued for in cybernetic terms. the aristos are fit to rule because they are the wisest, the most knowledgeable. they have the most accurate model of society. the good regulator theorem and the internal model principle both state that to regulate a system you must have an accurate model of that system. without such modelling good regulation cannot be effected. therefore the aristos, the vanguard, should rule

>>2890161
But what may qualify "the best"?
Plato properly sees that duty to the public good must be made by the decoupling of power from money, from a lack of personal possession, and by constant self-improvement (e.g. eugenics). The entrepeneurial aristocracy of people like Yarvin sees money, power and wisdom as all synonymous, and so aristocracy becomes plutocracy.

>Idealist political philosophy
>Preservation of class society
>Anti-democratic elite rule
>Eugenics

Holy shit Plato was ML??

Pressley Demands Israel Release US Citizen Sama Safi, Abducted by IDF More Than Two Months Ago
The Guardian reported in June that Safi, a psychology student at the West Bank’s Birzeit University, was arrested along with three other women around the same time. An Israeli military spokesperson told The Guardian that they were all arrested “after promoting hostile terrorist activity and additional terrorist-related activities.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/free-sama-safi-israel

HCA workers push for higher pay and more staffing amid billions in profits: ‘I’m struggling’
The hospital system has over 300,000 employees in the US and the UK, with 22,000 US workers represented by the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) who are in contract negotiations with HCA. Workers are asking for a pathway to a $25 an hour minimum wage, improved wage scales and raises that match the increased cost of living, along with benefits including paid vacation, sick time and bolstered work protections.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/11/union-hca-healthcare-workers-protest

Advocates Call for End of Deadly Tactic Used by For-Profit Health Insurers to Deny Treatment
The policy brief, published Monday by the American Economic Liberties Project (AELP), an anti-monopoly think tank, argues that the system is a massive drag on the US healthcare system, draining doctors of their time, fueling hiring shortages, and—most importantly—worsening treatable health problems for millions of Americans.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/corporate-care-veto

Judge temporarily blocks implementation of NYC's new pied-à-terre tax
The ruling pauses enforcement on the tax on second properties while a lawsuit brought by a group of homeowners moves forward. That lawsuit alleges that the city bungled the rollout by including many who live full-time in their homes on a list of 900,000 people who could be subject to the tax, as well as sending letters to 17,000 others.
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The Democratic Party Establishment Punches Back
Things came to a head with the undeniable success of DSA-backed candidates in New York City’s June 23 primaries. It was a test of whether the country’s most prominent democratic-socialist mayor would continue to align with the Democratic Party’s center and right wing or use his political capital — and, more importantly, the popularity generated by his program and campaign — to challenge them. While Mamdani initially pledged to support candidates on the Working Families Party line, including Democrats who were not endorsed by DSA, at the 11th hour he switched course to advocate for three insurgent candidates who won their primaries by large margins, undermining the designs of his party’s leadership. Mamdani made the political calculation that if he supported DSA’s candidates, he would gain more favor from his base and from the DSA rank and file (after facing backlash for his coziness with the police and his endorsement of Kathy Hochul for governor). House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries’s response was telling in its passive-aggressive restraint. When asked whether Mamdani’s endorsements had made him enemies in Washington, Jeffries confirmed that the two had “strongly” disagreed over his picks and warned that the mayor “has got work to do in terms of the conversations that he’s going to have with members of Congress moving forward.” It was the sound of a party leader trying to manage an insurgency rather than one confidently setting terms for it.
https://www.leftvoice.org/democratic-establishment-punches-back/

Hoisted from the Inbox: China Wobbles or Worse in Store?
Yves here. Some who are knowledgeable about China correspond with me. I sent around an article from Asia Times, China’s 25-year tax reach will cost it more than it collects. This measure seems so misguided (in terms of the 25 year part, not some collection of back taxes per se) as to seem desperate. From the top of the story: China is now chasing decades of unpaid tax on money its wealthiest citizens moved offshore, in some cases reaching back as far as 25 years. Call it what it actually is: a state deciding, after the fact, that wealth it once let leave the country is now fair game to reclaim. To be sure, taxing worldwide income isn’t radical policy. The UnitePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna

>>2888853
No, he was wrong. USSR at the time was improving living conditions in all regards, led working class of all countries towards progress, was collectivizing and nationalizing everything private, democraacy was flourisihing, and then butthurt Trotsky comes out and says that this is not socialism, akshually. What then is socialism, remain impoverished and on the military dictatorship rails, necessary for continuing warfare?

>>2889477
>>2889477
> What then is socialism, remain impoverished and on the military dictatorship rails, necessary for continuing warfare?
Socialism is when you wear the yarmulke and light menorah.

>>2889338
He was right

>>2889270
Now that I think about yes, utopian communes and anarchist territories might be closer to merchant republic tbh

>>2889338
>>2889482
I read an excerpt from that someone posted here and don't know enough about Cromwell to even make the comparison but tbh alot of Betrand's critique were just your stereotypical lib pearl clutching over political violence. They just dislike it when its upfront but are perfectly fine with social murder at home and imperialism abroad its just not violence when they do it its some special other thing thats like totally different and morally justified! the existence of a state can totally happen without any violence or coercion involved guys! That being said Betrand Russell still an S tier liberal, especially compared to his successors in the Liberal tradition. At the very least inciting the lower peasantry against the kulaks is something that actually happend irl.

Russell was a tepid dork, the fact two people seem to agree with his views on anything ITT is embarrassing

>>2889681
No, but I still expect better results than it's long economic stagnation. Which lead to the economic collapse that happened shortly after hoxhas death.

Like if it sustained itself than I could respect it. But it wasn't even able to do that.

>>2889696
>ambiguity
We already live under a "planned" (and yes fully planned) economy. Firms like BlackRock employ more people than the Gosplan ever did. Small businesses plan, multinationals plan production, consumers plan expenditures.
Planning is not has never been unique to any mode of production.

>>2889730
you are equivocating between systems where each firm (or holding company, or whatever) plans for itself (and even then, often in a fairly hands off manner: make me money, appoint an irish gaelic speaker to the board, or i'll sell my shares and someone else can decide) and systems where every firm in the country is set an arbitrary target like "increase the number of ton-kilometres moved by rail by 10% from the previous year"

since there is no serious mode of production not reliant on some form of planning (does a hunter gatherer not plan to hunt and gather on a given day?) it conveys absolutely no information to require one rigidly specify: "centralised, indicative, or cybernetic" planning every single time.

>>2804361
It just works. How the economy is organized doesn't even matter that much outside of other factors (even far-rights agree there was a book on it Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy by Joseph Scumpeter) . Most big companies are top down. Economic calculation problem etc all bullshit that can be debunked (look at Chinese prices compared to neighbours like Japan) and planning with modern tech is more efficient.
Tito's Yugoslavia was probably the shittiest long term "socialist" economy.

TRUKE on the second they aren't and can't advance into socialism like this

Maybe some truth on the 3rd as they tend to focus on immediate needs. I think there's a middle path w all the experiences from planned economies. We could cut down on the slop and focus on higher quality cultural products (not high brow)

OP,

when gators stroll around slowly they always seem to put on a trollface "u mad bro" smirk

>>2889186
>South Carolina is an alligator infested shithole
What the fuck is wrong with you? This is a boon. You obviously never had fried gator before.

>>2889186
living here in SC isn't terrible. charleston is pretty looking and greenville is one of the fastest growing economies in america. columbia is two hours from the mountains, two hours from the beach and 2 hours from the fun cities in north carolina. one of the better southern states

>>2889708
Looks pretty nice, the hot climate would probably kill me though. What are the fun cities in NC and why are they fun? 30 years ago I almost ended up in Greensboro in a McMansion as my dad had an offer for a good STEM autist job there and seriously considered moving to the US.

Moved to >>>/siberia/813417.

>>2882713
This

>>2882738

Westerners who Orientalize asia, or live in such a shithole country with no basic public services, that basic needs being met for women seems like feminism. women in north and south korea live in chains in the work place, family and political life.

>>2882713
le womanz bad

>>2889118

East Asian women are the prettiest though. Japanese, Korean and Chinese women are top tier

>>2889122
if you love women you should hate feminism

>>2878060
Cubans are built out of tough stuff. They produce a lot of combat sports athletes too. A lot of the guys killed during Operation Maduro Booty Snatch were Cuban, but the thing is they did actually shot back at the Yanquis and died in combat.

It's not inconcievable to me that they give in from sheer exhaustion in the end, but I don't get the same feeling. Sometimes you have to trust your intuition, especially when your intuition says "I'm about to get my ass kicked." Which Cubans are very good at doing.

Your brain evolved to have a "I'm in danger" sensor, a "I'm going to get my ass beat" detector.

>>2889260
So the whole "China isn't helping!" bit was bullshit?

Realistically, how long would the FAR be able to hold out the invasion?

No reason to invade when you can just tighten the blockade forever