[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internet about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)
What is 6 - 2?

Not reporting is bourgeois

| Catalog | Home
|

 

The grim, bitter irony of being a reactionary white guy, voting for the reactionary political party on the basis that they will bring back muh jobs and restore white America, only to have them outsource shit to south asia and continue hiring undocumented mestizos for blue-collar jobs.

Obviously non-white workers are scapegoats and are hyper-exploited, but still. Its like if you voted for the NSDAP and then they imported 10 million black and brown laborers to work in German factories and service industries.

I ALMOST feel sorry for the chuds tbh.
7 posts omitted.

>>2409026
>I ALMOST feel sorry for the chuds tbh.
Don't feel sorry for them. They're not victims and they're not suffering. The BBB is basically a jobs program for them. They're all joining ICE or becoming guards in private prisons.

>>2409026
>Its like if you voted for the NSDAP and then they imported 10 million black and brown laborers to work in German factories and service industries.
I mean that’s pretty much what the NSDAP did tho, except they also threw you into the military to die invading all of Europe and the subhuman mongrel foreigners being imported to take yer job back home are other europeans

>>2409110
That's like hip-hop but Mexican polka music is basically Austrian polka in Spanish. Also their beer is German and they had an Austrian emperor in the 1860s. (He was executed by firing squad though.)

See. Same thing pretty much. Also the president of Mexico is named Sheinbaum. Really Spanish, that is!

>>2409026
>Its like if you voted for the NSDAP and then they imported 10 million black and brown laborers to work in German factories and service industries.
Funnily enough that's what the nazis were planning to do had they won the war. Even in their perfect society the normie whites still gets fucked over.



File: 1753892523546.jpg (276.57 KB, 1062x1132, 1753892026239845.jpg)

 

Dialectically speaking and from a socialist theory POV, what is your response to someone just replying to your masterfully-crafted argument about class warfare with this image?
7 posts and 1 image reply omitted.

>>2409131
This is ad hominen i think

Die Linke are social democrats.

O M G

There are people with disabilities or from sexual/ethnic minorities that participate in left-wing political organization????

STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES NOW

File: 1753896520391.png (439 KB, 538x680, Gkg6URGXIAA7Ur-.png)

>>2409186
>Leads your party to new heights at around 14%
>Constantly whines about your party and shit on your party members
>Leaves and form your own
>Polling at 8% while your former party is crushed at 3%
>Former party gets its shit together and performed a miracle run
>Almost hit 5%
>Both current and former party's % adds up to 14%
If anyone is controlled opposition, it is Wagenknecht for wasting everyone's time.




File: 1753736873560.png (3.46 MB, 1600x1199, ClipboardImage.png)

 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Palantir Edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md

📺 Live News 📺
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
603 posts and 144 image replies omitted.

BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581
BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581
BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581
BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581
BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581
BREAKING: BREAD >>2408581

>>2408602
>I also took acid once and spent 4 hours of the comedown reading about pre-ww2 baseball once lmao
I took mushrooms once and walked my dog without a shirt on in a bowler hat and talked to random neighbors in my apartment complex, something I would have never otherwise done

>>2408587
only like 0.5% or less of burgers actioally own that garbage, get new material

File: 1753852501695.png (432.48 KB, 548x525, 83.PNG)

>>2408429
>If you have a phone you hold a mean of production literally in your own hands so yes
>Phones are a means of production
Maoists never fail to demonstrate why the Soviets were the right side of the Sino-Soviet split and why Deng was right to shitcan the Gang of Four. Utter fucking idiots led around by the FBI by the nose.

>>2408420
>>2408429
even the most obvious bait will get seriously replies here lol



File: 1753394056369.png (105.3 KB, 300x176, IMG_0031.png)

 

Suspicion is growing among Brazilian intelligence agents that the Bolsonaro supporters' actions are not being organized by organic movements within the country, but rather by a meticulously rehearsed script by the White House, with the participation of the CIA.

In recent days, Eduardo Bolsonaro's aggressiveness against the Federal Police, against Supreme Court justices, his attitude of defying even the rules of his mandate, and his increasingly radical rhetoric have raised alarm bells.

The first of these is due to the certainty of being able to speak and misinform, without any fear of facing justice.

The second suspicion concerns the aggressiveness of Donald Trump's own actions. He reserved the highest tariffs and harshest rhetoric for Brazil, and closed the door to any dialogue with the Lula administration.

"This is a typical script drawn up by the CIA, feeding national actors to justify a foreign strategic interest," said an Abin agent abroad.

In 2022, in the midst of Jair Bolsonaro's preparations for a coup, Joe Biden's then-CIA chief traveled to Brazil to deliver a message to the Brazilian military: an adventure against the country's democracy would not have American backing.

Today, the suspicion is that the new Trump administration has a different stance. Indeed, the White House's efforts are to assert that actions are being taken to "defend" Brazilians, not against them. The Bolsonaro clan is the straw man. The sanctions would be implemented, officially, not to serve US strategic interests, but supposedly to enforce "freedom in Brazil."

The script has all the necessary ingredients to construct a rhetoric suitable for action. There is a group of supposed "exiles"—such as Eduardo Bolsonaro, Allan dos Santos, and Paulo Figueiredo—there is a "wronged" individual who is "loved by the people"—former President Jair Bolsonaro—and there is a supposedly dictatorial regime, represented by Alexandre de Moraes and Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
5 posts and 3 image replies omitted.

Why can't they get some favela nig to off the Bolsonaros? Can't be too difficult.

>>2406452
Because a trial and humiliation ritual is funnier and makes lula look better, do you know what the rule of law is? Probably not since you hate black people

>>2406453
fuck off with your rule of law bullshit, it-s either that they are too scared (they THINK balance of power they rely upon would be broken, regardless of if true or not), too weak (they REALLY want to kill them, but they can't), or they are spooked (they COULD kill them, but they think they have a better plan or that it is unacceptable).

>>2406453
What is a liberashka doing here?

>>2402482
I mean.. what? They already *know* that operation "Car Wash" or whatever was a judicial coup. The Brazilian government could already credibly accuse the USA of massive electoral interference to put Bolsonaro in power.

This sounds like the Euros wondering aloud who could possibly do the NS bombing, or the KSA floating the idea of trading their oil in Yuan. It sounds like pointless, go nowhere "diplomacy" to tighten the screws on the USA and ask for concessions. Only to get slapped back into shape, like the liberal cucks they are.



File: 1753150861514-0.png (1.33 MB, 1024x533, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1753150861514-1.png (177.89 KB, 355x250, ClipboardImage.png)

 

As time goes on and the tasks of the industry undergo automatization, most jobs are left to the part-time workers. Hasn't anyone else noticed this trend? We call them petite-bourgeoisie and yes variably but mostly tend to be since the nature of their work is not collectivist and is akin to the statuses of small business owners (individual entrepreneurs), shopkeepers (of small businesses), small-scale merchants (without a proper shop), semi-autonomous peasants (now just semi-autonomous poor entrepreneurs), and artisans. I feel that class relations have changed and nobody has bothered to do a concise analysis of it, instead clinging to the same labels, looking back and trying to reapply or justify the changed situation with outdated concepts. For example the "peasantry" Marx described is not the same as the poor jobless homeless, they were literally farmers with limited land-ownership and yet I see people calling hobos and the general poor as peasants. I am lead to believe the term proletariat barely applies anymore, the industrial proletariat is being scaled down and once society no longer relies on its labor then nothing makes it a revolutionary subject since it cannot bring about change through strikes or anything - it will just disappear once its no longer needed anywhere. My thesis is that the majority of the current workers are in the sphere of services and that the revolutionary subject may be IT workers, programmers, generally technicians and scientists which can understand the machinery and affect it. Machinery has already enveloped most of society, so any change that comes upon it will affect it and whoever can affect it can take control of the social order.
Most workers don't work a single job anymore, they do part-time jobs here and there to live by. In the historical situation for which Marx was writing, workers generally lived and died the same profession they took up.

And yes we've had this thread before, though there is a different response each time so I'm trying it against to see what comes out as a response. I present it in a different way and with a different flag that may or may not even be related.
My current thesis is that the movement of the declassed (as Bukharin labeled it) might have the upper hand with the growth of capitalism, the contradictions within the capitalist mode of production do lead to a sort of decomposition, but generally don't appear to be able to lead to collapse on their own unless it brings abouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
394 posts and 39 image replies omitted.

>>2407346
> If you don't own a home then you're not a homeowner 🙄

>>2407460
then why are you bringing it up in the context of the industrial proletariat?

what percent of the industrial proletariat own their own home?

is that percentage so significant that it has an effect on the the entire industrial proletariat as a class?

do you have anything relevant to say to the thread or are you just here to argue semantics out of context and be wrong?

File: 1753800145374.mp4 (1022.99 KB, 640x360, communism.mp4)

>>2407296
>CEOs are working class
>>2407304
so in communism, the state can own property, but citizens cant?
>>2407309
>private property is an unequal social relationship
thats all social relationships
>It is exploitatiion which defines private property
so owning things is exploitation?
>>2407448
>property existed in all class societies.
yes, which is all societies in history.
>read marx
i already did: >>2405475 >>2405482
>im done
yes you are. you want communism but dont even know what it is.

productivity is what causes the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. Autonation also leads to productivity. When the rate of profit is zero you can say there is no more labor.

>>2408379
you wont find this in the tomes because nobody foresaw ai. But just like ai can be powerful at the hands of the wealthy it can also be powerful at the hands of the underclass. Then it hecomes a matter of who owns the resources. Something like that a little more thinking outside the box…



 

What was it about 1968 that made it such a revolutionary year in the West? What was the historical materialist context which made it so revolutionary and made it the closest that the West came to revolution and how was it coopted and liberalized in the 70s and 80s?
41 posts and 4 image replies omitted.

>>2340924
>Zionist nationalists in Poland try to seize control 1968
>it wuz a revolution
Lmao

I bought Chris Harman's book on 1968. Is it any good?

>>2340924

It didn't happen
It never happened
Things may someday happen if AT LEAST food and certain industries are collectivized via permaculture and there was a serious crackdown on supply chains, but this will mot happen soon.

>>2341018
They always forget about south America

Same problem with the Communards, refusal to grab State power. The general, wildcat strikes and factory occupations is the purest expression of proletarian, revolutionary intent but bourgeois morality kicked in and they didn't want to be seen as the aggressor so once they got the demand for an election, it fizzled out because they didn't want to be the "bad guys."



File: 1744739410983.png (13.04 MB, 3700x3194, american-years-of-lead.png)

 

>the killing of Brian Thompson
>violent and chaotic anti-American student protests
>Tesla burnings
>violent attacks on pro-life activists and other right-wingers
>arson attack on Gov Shapiro's home
>multiple assassination attempts on Trump
We have now entered an American Years of Lead without question.

A very special friend of ours warned us about this months ago and nobody listened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qda4JY36BBA
596 posts and 103 image replies omitted.

>>2357245
The Iraqi army pretty much wiped out Da’esh.

>>2235245
Some of them were, a small number still dabble in it iirc. I think Brazil used to have a majority of politically aligned gangs but it's basically just legacy stuff now, it seems the vast majority of criminal-political organizations eventually drop the political part. Hell there's even considerable churn in underground strictly political guerrilla organizations eventually giving up and turning to crime since the skillset has large overlap, and it's further incentivized for revolutionary fugitives.

File: 1751003166004.jpeg (27.95 KB, 516x516, headphones cringe.jpeg)

>>2242793
coal ass fucking meme I expect better from this website.


>>2407216
he killed the executive who decided to buy up a bunch of homes to make housing more expensive



File: 1753743186227.jpg (86.19 KB, 550x550, alvaro-uribe-porcina1.jpg)

 

Colombia’s former president Alvaro Uribe found guilty of bribing witnesses
In a historic verdict, judge Sandra Liliana Herrera confirmed that Uribe bribed witnesses in order to press fabricated criminal charges against Senator Ivan Cepeda. Uribe’s witnesses additionally fabricated claims that Justice Minister Eduardo Montealegre illegally opened investigations into the former president and his brother Santiago when Montealegre was Prosecutor General.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-former-president-alvaro-uribe-found-guilty-of-bribing-witnesses/

After taking back land in Colombia, Indigenous prepare their youth to safeguard it
The children’s “semillero” — a weekend school where Indigenous youth are nurtured like seeds — prepares the next generation to protect their ancestral land. More than a classroom, it’s a space for learning resistance, environmental care and cultural pride. Their work echoes a broader community effort to restore damaged territory and preserve identity in a region still marked by conflict.
https://apnews.com/article/colombia-indigenous-land-protection-cauca-farc-youth-f4de70775dfdd3986af377d297e26e7c

Plot to Kill Lula, Alckmin, and Justice Moraes Traced to Top General
In July 2025, official court records revealed that General Mário Fernandes—once a senior figure in former president Jair Bolsonaro’s government—admitted to writing a plan. The plan called for the kidnapping and murder of Brazil’s President-elect Lula da Silva, Vice President-elect Geraldo Alckmin, and Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes. He said he created and printed the document—known as “Punhal Verde e Amarelo”—inside the presidential palace after Lula’s election win in late 2022. Fernandes claimed that this was only his “risk analysis,” not something he meant to share, and he said he shredded the printout.
https://www.riotimesonline.com/plot-to-kill-lula-alckmin-and-justice-moraes-traced-to-tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
1 post omitted.

Tybna, also fuck Uribe, couldn't have happened to a better guy, although I wish he was juged for all the people he killed and disappeared

Jeremy Corbyn’s new party: what does it mean, and what attitude should communists take towards it?
The announcement by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana of a new party on Thursday has provoked a strong wave of support and enthusiasm. In itself, this was not surprising. The reactionary policies pursued by the Starmer government had been a slap in the face for millions of people who voted for the Labour Party, hoping for a change. In a remarkably short space of time, having won a landslide electoral victory, Starmer has become the most unpopular prime minister of all time. He is particularly detested by people on the left, who rightly regard him as a traitor who is virtually indistinguishable from the Tories and Liberals. To the left of Labour a yawning gulf has opened up, a huge political vacuum, which, sooner or later, had to be filled. Given the weakness of the forces of genuine Marxism at the present time, that vacuum could only be filled by some kind of left reformist alternative. It was therefore quite natural that it should be filled by former Labour leader and left reformist, Jeremy Corbyn. To anyone with the slightest knowledge of British politics at the present time, such an outcome could not be a surprise. It was, in fact, entirely predictable. Within hours, thousands of people were signing up to join the new party. Given the total lack of any viable alternative, this again was hardly surprising, For a long time, the so-called lefts in Britain and internationally have been paralysed by a mood of dejection and pessimism They only saw reaction on all sides. Lacking any knowledge of dialectics, they could only see the surface of events, but were blind to the real processes of radicalisation that are taking place. This applies to Jeremy Corbyn as much as anyone else. While we salute his decision finally to launch a new party, we must also add that this development was held up for a long time by his constant vacillations and hesitation to take this decisive step.
https://marxist.com/jeremy-corbyn-s-new-party-what-does-it-mean-and-what-attitude-should-communists-take-towards-it.htm

Internal Documents Detail Hamas Proposals That Preceded Trump’s Belligerent Rant
Last Wednesday, after consulting with a range of PalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

URIBE PARACO HIJUEPUTA

Thank you based news anon



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<"Free Gaza" Edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md

📺 Live News 📺
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
604 posts and 155 image replies omitted.

>>2407117
>seek to stabilise relations
my brother in Christ, you were the one who destabilized the relations to begin with with your tariff bullshit

>>2407206
well that's the american way. privately create a problem then solve it publicly for the glory

File: 1753783916655.jpg (118.55 KB, 877x1024, maga torture king.jpg)

>>2406335
>>2406373
>I especially need my computer back because I have a lot of baby monkey torture videos on it… I have begun to suffer withdrawals
How the fuck does this guy feel comfortable just putting that out in the open. I feel dirty even typing out his quote, what the hell is wrong with rightoids

>>2407542
>far right
>exposed by the BBC
pottery

>>2406373
Reminder a solid chunk of people on this site effectively argue that it's fascism if you think this is a bad thing.



 

Was recently thinking about this, does the phrase "Israel are the new nazis" have any actual merit? It seems to make sense at first, but I've encountered many third positionists who side with Russia and China over the the Ukraine and Israel, who supposedly make up the 5th reich
24 posts and 14 image replies omitted.

>does the phrase "Israel are the new nazis" have any actual merit?
<Nazis: innovated IBM holocaust technology
<Zionists: innovated AI generated holocaust technology
So now when people see that sort of praxis, their first thought won't be "that's some nazi shit, are you German?", they will simply call you a Zionist Jew.
>Ukraine and Israel, who supposedly make up the 5th reich
No they're both are proxy states of the Fourth Reich (USA)

>>2399917
>schlomo vile has more in common with the average manifest destiny settler than whatever john wayne caricature people imagine.
Did you know that the Jewish Hollywood guy John Milius's first movie was about a cannibal settler? Really makes you think lmao:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson

see also this cannibal settler serial killer who praised the Confederacy with his dying breaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boone_Helm

yes, obviously

>>2399622
> yeah there is something very distinct about the way zionism is able to possess and animate the entire mythology & history of jews into a legitimizing narrative. thats definitely unique as far as not being "just" settler-colonialism
No it's just Calvinist replacement theology with a Jewish coat of paint. America as the new Israel is very much manifest destiny.

>>2407338
the territory that would become the US was already being settled for over 200 years before the "great awakening" that most resembles contemporary evangelism. yes there were the puritans and theres continuity there. but on the whole the settlers of both the 13 colonies and manifest destiny eras were much more doctrinally heterogenous. im not saying theres no parallel but were starting from a point of agreement that israel is a settler-colony like the US, i just think it is distinct in that it a fairly consistent ethno-nationalist and doctrinal background ("being jewish") that is the preexisting basis of unity, as compared with american settlement in which there was no comparable white or american identity besides the one that arose through a long process of previously heavily differentiated european settlers.

>>2407344
Yeah that fair. I suppose I would say that Israel speed ran much of the development and decay of a settler-colony. Israel is America in microcosm.



Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]
[ 1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 /11 /12 /13 /14 /15 /16 /17 /18 /19 /20 /21 /22 /23 /24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 /31 /32 /33 /34 /35 /36 ]
| Catalog | Home