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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Zelensky doesn't have the cards but neither do I edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
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>>2543597
>Later you find out that she’s actually working for some “Dark Druids”
Nibbuh! Spoilers! Games kinda over-rated but still.

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>>2543602
Mushrimir Shroomin will awake from his slumber soon……
#MUSHBOLGANG

did anyone realize that xi absolutely killed trump in those negotiations. he just bought some soybeans and got tarrifs eased up on him

>>2542926
at 10% inflation, $2.20 the first year, $2 the second year, $1.80 the third year, and so on for a total of 18 1/3 years and you end up with a real price of $18.75 which isn't bad for deferring payment for more than 18 years.

>>2543623
We should appropriate soy and make it a symbol of leftist victory then. This trade victory China clearly marks the supremacy of China and therefore socialism on the world stage.



 

https://swentr.site/india/627189-india-rushes-to-reclaim-gold/
One of the main reasons for repatriating gold is due to G7 nations freezing Russia’s foreign exchange reserves after the escalation of the Ukraine conflict.

Ritesh Jain, founder of investment firm Pinetree Macro, told the Economic Times. “In this new era, if you don't have custody of your gold, it's not truly yours,” Jain stated.

They relocated 200 tons from the UK to India.

>In view of Hungary’s long-term national and economic strategy goals, the Magyar Nemzeti Bank has decided to increase the country’s gold reserves from 94.5 tonnes to 110 tonnes. The growing momentum of the global economic, geopolitical and capital market trends that have led to the appreciation of the role of gold in recent years have contributed to the decision to increase gold reserves. Amid increasing uncertainty in the global economy, the role of gold as a safe haven asset and a store of value is of particular importance, as it enhances confidence in the country and supports financial stability. Gold continues to be one of the most important reserve assets globally, as evidenced by the significant purchases of gold by central banks in recent years. Following the increase in its gold reserves, Hungary has the highest gold reserves per capita in the Central and Eastern European region.

This is probably leading to WWIII



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When will China invade and or annex Taiwan? And if so are they justified in doing so?
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Katamari-PRC will simply absorb it in due time

>>2543109
A takeover by means of economic pressure would be a much better option. At most, some grey area actions with coast guard ships to disrupt trade.

>>2531457
>Just because everything turns to shit will not make everyone magically turn to communism it is just as if not more likely they'll just turn to right-wing extremism instead.
Some anon here once said "It's socialism or barbarism not socialism after barbarism" and I think that's beautiful

>>2531449
>When will China invade and or annex Taiwan?
When China is ready to face USA military. I would say 2035.
>And if so are they justified in doing so?
Kinda because Taiwan has always been part of China and its ruled by Chinese nationalists. Its a separatist region. Its close to North Korea-South Korea situation where country is split up. Would USA invade Alaska if it became independent?

>>2531449
Not many people know, but "Two Systems, One Country" was first suggested in 1979 for Taiwan. If we assume that it would give Taiwan 50 years of autonomy before it becomes a regular province, then the time is supposed to run out in 2029.



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Just about most attempts of social services for less developed economies go like this: Social service is underfunded to allow for competition -> people complain about it being ass -> social service is left to the market -> it's just as bad but now it costs (more) money -> populist glup shitto politician gets elected and funds the social service again -> repeat



 

While it varies from fascist to fascist, a lot of us agree with many issues with leftists geopolitically: Israel-Palestine, the arab world in general (see: Ba'athism), China, Russia-Ukraine war (granted, this is a pretty divisive one), NATO, american influence over the world in general. Leftists who support pro western causes (in modern times Ukraine and seperatist movements in China, for example) are a psyop by the CIA and trotskyists to turn leftists into gay liberals but painted in red.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2543339
lol the chud in the first image cracks me up
>>2543295
you guys are retards and there is nothing to gain from an alliance with retards

>>2543381
You have less infighting because fascism is syncretic in nature, all that matters is "kill da commies"
>>2543378
>but I don't see modern fascists as ideologically coherent
the old ones (fascists italy) wasnt either
>>2543396
>The logical result of Fascism is the introduction of aesthetics into political life.
walter benjamin, many decades ago

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It's retarded but please let something happen

The only possible red-brown alliance is the sexual-romantic alliance between me and my future homophobic fascist boyfriend

Yes. Let's bring back Social Radicalism.



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Aren't immigrants from the global south who leave their countries and work for multi-national corporations for peanuts scabs? Why do we delude ourselves into supporting them?(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2543404
Since when is Taiwan, Japan and Korea part of the Global South?

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>>2542856
end imperialism, climate change, neo colonialism, currency hegemony, forever wars, and you will end the conditions which lead to mass migration. Until you attack the root cause of mass migration, ask yourself why the borders of bourgeois dictatorships should be respected, and why human beings are less free to move around than the commodities they produce through their labor.

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>>2542903
almost like there's a 2 tiered system of immigration where there's brain drain from the periphery, but also muscle drain from the periphery. the brain drain ends up at the magnificent 7 silikkkon valley corporations, and the muscle drain ends up on your farms alongside your prisoners (are the prisoners also scabs?).

>>2543945
As long as the proletariat from the global south continue to move and defect to the north, worker solidarity is not possible in the global south. As it stands, the dream of the "middle class" in the south is to move to a developed country, not to unite with their fellow workers.
>>2543947
Prisoners are forced into slavery by the bourgeois dictatorship. Who is forcing the workers from global south to defect to the north?

Millions more will come in, no matter how hard you try to argue, no matter how angry and violent you become.



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If you hold that communism's victory is inevitable then genuinely why bother with all the heart ache and tiring work of doing action, educating, keeping informed ect. Why not just do whatever tickles your fancy if your contribution will be less than 0.001%?

It's a question I've asked myself a lot when I feel like killing myself in despair and I've only ever really resolved that this is just my lot, someone's gotta do what little they can with others who feel the same (or not) and deal with it like a man.
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>>2475519
>it is socialism or barbarism, not socialism after barbarism
Holy shit that is an actual killer post and phrase. I'm screenshotting and saving. Best thing to come from this thread

>>2475138
He's Double Lenin

>>2482649
Maybe even triple

We will win only if we fight

>>2475515
free will exists retard



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History bros here? Can anyone explain how Islam had managed to permanently replace the dominant religions of Iran and North India, 1000+ old at that moment, even after both had overthrown direct Arab (Umayad) rule? Was Islam geniunely this much more popular among lower classes of these societes than the religions of old? (I am prety certain that Islam is more historically progressive than Hinduism, but that alone doesn't mean much). Or Muslims just were so absurdly efficient colonisers?
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>>2536062
Islam was populist in the context of India because it broke with the rigidity of the caste system

>>2542666
south asian muslims have their own caste system tho. If anti-casteism was the reason all of India would be Buddhist

>>2542672
I think the difference is that Buddhism isn't dogmatic like abrahamic religions, the Buddhist king Ashoka patronised non-buddhist sects in his kingdom while remaining Buddhist himself, something an abrahamist would never do.

>>2542672
i've never seen caste being mentioned in relationship to pakistanis

>>2542707
Abrhamic religion are extremely bad, reactionary and should be fought against everywhere, no sane rational progressive person support those religions.



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From supporting the bourgeois state hunting down, imprisoning, or outright murdering workers on the basis of foreign national origin justified by collaborationist opportunism (aka left anti-immigrant rhetoric)

To upholding le national struggles 25 entire fucking years after the 20th Century demonstrated how it will NEVER LEAD TO COMMUNISM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE

To supporting literal racial essentialist logic where certain races (i.e. “black people” “oppressed nationalities” etc) are more revolutionary than others and le heckin Marx simply didn’t consider how important race and nation truly is

Every single type of so-called socialist, outside a very narrow slice, has more in common with Adolf Hitler than Karl Marx, they deny this, but they’re also proud of it, when the fuck will they stop, and is violence the only way to make them (and you) cease and fucking desist?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2542939
Pointing out that non-Europeans have a better track record at doing socialism on their own accord makes you a race essentialist apparently.

>>2542939
White people invented communism, you should be kissing our feet.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2542971
Marx was asian

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>>2542971
Only if you have stinky feet 🧀

>>2542973
Marx was African



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We are told of human and animal sacrifice as a vestige of religious superstition. We are sometimes told that the ruling class still engages in the superstitious forms of human and animal sacrifice for the purposes of achieving some kind of mystical end not rooted in evidence. But what about the very real human and animal sacrifice that we still perform not for superstitious reasons but for scientific reasons? Capitalists plan wars explicitly to destroy excess means of production and commodities, including the commodity labor power in the physical form of human beings, as noted by Rajani Palme Dutt in Fascism and Social Revolution Chapter 3. In order to learn if a new medicine or technology is effective, it must be tested on animals and/or humans for side-effects. In order for revolution to succeed you need not just thought leaders like Lenin but thousands of ordinary people to fight, often to the point of sacrificing their very lives for small gains. Will we be able to abolish the "rational and scientific" forms of human and animal sacrifice along with the "irrational and superstitious" forms of human and animal sacrifice in a more advanced society, such as a Communist society, or perhaps later on, a Kardashev Type I or Type II civilization? Or will the sacrifice of human and animal life always be needed to move things forward? If humans merge with their technology and cease to be human in the original biological sense, will they still need to or even be able to sacrifice themselves for some cause?
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Bro just one more sacrifice bro.
Just one more big spectacle burning dozens, no, hundreds of people alive.
The rain gods will finally listen and end the drought. I promise bro please.

humans are inherently irrational and superstitious
you cant get rid of the sacrifice cults

There will always be an expenditure of energy, nerves and muscles or any other matter

>Kardashev scale
>vaccine testing is the same as cutting people's hearts out as a gift to Huitzilopochtli

OP, people are always going to have to pick tradeoffs in order to do anything. Most of the things that actually advance society technologically or socially really doesn't have some serious inherent cost. Most of what we have to deal with is a result of class society producing things (including knowledge) in a way that maximizes profit and is indifferent to suffering.

>>2541975
>The Elder Stops Scrolling.jpg
lol

What's wrong with Kardashev? I think he was onto something.



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