/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2496459
more elaboration on what this "authentic" socialism was and how it was corrupted by marxists? and reasons socialism is for beggars instead of workers?

>>2496462

All dicked out.

>>2496463
There isn't an "authentic" socialism, but whatever Marx was aiming for had nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with a power grab. The speed with which Marxist socialism turned inward on itself tells that this was very much not the answer, and the first generation of the USSR knew this thing did not work and did not adequately explain history.

The early socialists like Saint-Simon establish the overall base of the socialist camp, however small it was at first; and this socialism is not for beggars, but for a middle class. Every version of socialism is. My point about the beggars are that they are the only ones desperate enough to believe that anything like socialism could ever work out or include them, because socialism was the first idea to acknowledge that their class existed and had anything like human dignity. It's easily forgotten that for all of human history, the idea that the lowest class shouldn't be tortured and killed on sight is a novelty. If human history is to be nothing but culls, a lowest class is an inevitable conclusion, however that class is defined. So what does Marx do? Insist that after the revolution, you can't acknowledge that there remain social classes, and invent a hokum theory of "class analysis" to detract from what social class has always been understood to mean. And this ultimately is the origin of so much stupidity regarding what liberalism was. The ideologue claims liberalism was hypocritical in claiming it abolished social class, but liberals never claimed they did abolish social class or that any such thing was possible. From the outset, liberals maintained legal social distinctions of every sort. The only contention of the liberal is that these social classes didn't originate from Nature or received knowledge from on high, but were the result of a history that could be understood and reproduced; that is, that there was a reason why social classes existed besides "because they do". In practice, the liberals acknowledged there were social distinctions that were effectively fundamental, but those groups were already excluded from political society and usually deemed beneath the law and any human dignity in the first place. The liberal could only envision that their enemies were somehow insane or stupid, rather than acknowledging the evil. To acknowledge the evil too frankly would make clear Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2496523
That was a lot of aimless rambling. You‘re a utopian socialist.

the status quo is actually sustainable we just need to bomb more brown people, everything will be fine just make money and chill

Communist police are good thoughbeit

Split the job into several jobs that do each bit correctly rather than a single job that doesn't do any of them correctly.

If cops still exist when you strip away the bloat, then they may stay, if not, then they were a scam.

Don't bother, they are a cult. A neoliberal cult with socdem aesthetics which implodes into straight up fascism at the slightest pushback. For them, evicting poors is just the price society must pay for the stability of daily life. The lack of viciousness where I live is atrophy. It's just not needed. People will mostly acquiesce and pinch their noses and hope we can get another decade without major upheavals.

That's not the same for riot cops and other forces which pretty much only don the uniform to beat or kill people. Those are vicious alright, and fascists to a man. But they are kept well separate. Though again, at the slightest pushback the "good" cop simply follows orders and collects their pay and gets out of the way of the straight up criminals and fascists taking over the force. "Hey that wasn't us! Blame the politicians and their dogs!" they say, as they politely arrest you for inconveniencing some idem… of whose driver, the asslicker, "her butler more like!" they will rant the whole way. Like you are chums with them.

Got cops in the family and they are insufferable together. Everything has some self serving explanation. The way they talk you'd think they are the primary victims of crime and poverty and drugs and bad weather."Just following orders" is a regular alongside "blame the politicians". Somehow I'd prefer if they got angry and defensive and all thin-blue-line like, instead of this coy bullshit. ALAS they do so because they know when things escalate, they are not themselves but the armored gorillas and tacticool yahoos who dispense the beatings and shoot the bullets. So worse come to worst it won't be their ass on the line either.

>>2496480
(picrel) Is what you see when the police graciously spares a squatter or an evictee in front of the cameras.

Before coming back the next day or week, at 4-6am without the cameras or the protesters but with a fridge sized gorilla on a diet of steroids and fascism.

>deserve
Idealism.

Cops are class traitors with a shit job. They are abused by the state they serve and made to do all kinds of work that would be done far better by trained professionals. Their job is to uphold bourgeois law. Fuck the wretched police.

>>2494800
Remove India and that stat is inverted for women

>>2493768
Show us your tits.

>>2493768
So what's the greater take away?
Another demonizing men thread, or just realizing the arbitrary-ness of gender?


>>2494799
Why do female prison guards rape inmates more than the male counterparts then?
Hetmen are like that since of the patriarchy, women just do it for the fun of it, maybe we should genocide women?
(Just applying your logic :) )

>>2495918
can someone tell klippenstein about the ivermectin stuff on the shooters reddit? Only paid subscribers can comment on his substack, so you'll have to use twitter, bsky, or his signal.

>>2494403
Left-wing terrorism is on the rise. Wonder if we will get to anarchist bomb throwers

>>2494444
the american left are mostly obese bill maher libs that realised insulin was cheaper overseas during their birthright trip.

>>2440023
This one?

>>2393752
When did Antifa start using the Anarchist logo?

>>2496210
Good thing it was uploaded here

Amazon sues to block New York state labor law
Amazon.com (AMZN.O) sued the New York State Public Employment Relations Board on Monday to block it from enforcing a new law that the online retailer considers an attempt to illegally regulate private sector labor relations. In a complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court, Amazon accused New York of engineering an "unconstitutional power grab" by letting the regulator known as PERB usurp the National Labor Relations Board's primary authority to address union organizing, collective bargaining and workplace disputes.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/amazon-sues-block-new-york-state-labor-law-2025-09-22/

Another worker dies at Atlanta-area postal distribution center: Postal workers pay with their lives for “Delivering for America”
Co-workers remembered Smith as friendly, kind and hard-working, a man who took pride in his decades of service as a USPS electronic technician. Outside of work, he loved motorcycle riding and was an active member of a local riding club. Beyond one local news item and a brief USPS condolence statement, there has been no follow-up reporting on the circumstances of his death, no medical examiner’s determination made public, and no comment from the postal unions beyond general expressions of sympathy.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/25/usps-s25.html

Trump signs memo targeting ‘domestic terrorism’ amid fears of crackdown on the left
Prompted by journalists, Trump suggested that George Soros, the billionaire Hungarian-born philanthropist who funds the Open Society Foundations, could be in his sights. He also identified Reid Hoffman, a billionaire venture capitalist, adding: “I hear about him. Maybe it could be him. It could be a lot of people.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/25/trump-presidential-memorandum-political-violence

Oklahoma state superintendent who ordered schools to teach the Bible resigns to lead anti-teachers unionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Marxistindia, CPI(M) Condemns Brutal Repression in Ladakh
The Polit Bureau of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) strongly condemns the brutal repression unleashed by the Union Territory administration under the central government against the people of Ladakh. This violent crackdown has resulted in the tragic loss of four lives and left several others injured. For the past six years, the people of Ladakh have been demanding statehood, with a fully empowered legislature, as well as the inclusion of the region under the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution. This would grant them the constitutional safeguards and benefits enjoyed by the people in many northeastern states. The demand for these rights has been consistently ignored by the BJP-led central government.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/Marxistindia-CPIM-Condemns-Brutal-Repression-in-Ladakh/

What’s Behind the Crisis in Your Party?
Last Thursday, an email went out to everyone who had registered interest in Your Party, the initiative for a new left party in the UK. Zarah Sultana, one of the two initiators, presented a new online portal where people could sign up as members and begin paying dues. More than 20,000 did within a few hours. By the afternoon, Jeremy Corbyn, the other prominent face of Your Party, had rejected the new portal: “That email should be ignored by all supporters. If direct debits have been set up, they should immediately be cancelled.” After several days of chaos and massive criticism, the two seem to have reconciled — at least for now — with Corbyn announcing a new membership portal that will include members from Sultana’s portal. Once again, Sultana seems to have successfully forced her older colleague into action. Every conflict in the workers’ movement has political roots, even if the participants aren’t entirely aware of them.
https://www.leftvoice.org/whats-behind-the-crisis-in-your-party/

The Global Resurgence of Reactionary Conservatism and the Task of Communists
The contemporary world is defined by the profound contradictions of global capitalism: economic instability, environmental collapse, militarism,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

it's crazy how much international attention hind rajab got when the IDF does this every day. it really drives home "an individual death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."

>>2496368
a million deaths is nothing, an individual death is nothing, billions must die

>Why lolbertarianism popular among burgers?
Check the chart, second point on lolbertarianism
Hope that helped

Not everyone who identifies as a libertarian supports the laissez faire economic aspects of it but just support either the government staying out of business of foreign countries and/or staying out of their personal lives. They just want privacy and be able to have more autonomy from the state. Some are left libertarians including anarchists but without knowing enough about it to label themselves or they do but just want to infiltrate the Libertarian Party. Vermin Supreme is an example of an infiltrator. Then there is the kind who has had personal run ins with police so they just hate cops and make hating cops their ideology but dont know other ideologies that support having more relaxed laws. Some are just poor to middle class people but some are outright fascists by another name or are bourgeoisie looking to capitalize on new markets. I think it would be a mistake to shit on Libertarians unless you know their actual takes as individuals being very pro capitalist and fascist like. In fact if a party called something like the Social Libertarian Party was formed it could potentially overshoot the Libertarian Party especially if it merged with the Green Party.

>>2490862
someone like ludwig von mises was also not a libertarian (he supported the italian fascists and personally promoted dictatorahip) but still promoted lasseiz-faire regardless.

>>2212788
This is nonsense. Right wing 'libertarianism' has always been extremely socially conservative, siding with various conservative causes then and now, ultraconservatives, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-abortion, anti-enviromentalism, pro-church, pro-tradition and so on. They can't be socially progressive because they associate it with communist conspiracies and leftist subversion. People like Milei and his ilk are constantly yapping about leftism destroying the family and the west, leftist ideology taking over colleges, 'gender ideology', 'cultural marxism', etc. Austrian school especially is McCarthy-coded to the brim.

>>2212788
>Still, why did libertarianism become strangely popular among various types of popular media figures, like comedians, filmmakers, and actors?
Politically in their interests, intellectual enough to sound quirky and interesting, not alienating for their userbase. It essentially boils down to pragmatism

>>2413248
> "public" education is also legendarily bad. State-managed parts of the economy are always below expectations and state-owned assets are in constant disrepair
The whole point of "state managed parts of the economy" is that they provide social yields rather than pure economic outputs. Schooling would be better economically if it was private only because it would force a high percentage of the current population out of schools. The whole point of the state intervening is that people precisely prefer to have schools accessible for all than a service only provided for some.

>>2356596
>The more feudal the relations are (with government-protected rent seekers, landowners etc) the worse the conditions are for common people
Then why are you advocating to remove the mechanisms which got rid of these nuisances.

>>2356516
Not necessarily true. For both wages to go up alongside a drop in prices, you'd need to have nonexistent unemployment and elastic demand. This was somewhat true during the post-war economic boom but isn't anymore as unemployment has become much more common, unions have declined and essential goods are more and more privatized.

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>>2382137
sad.

>>2496025
Okay, and?

>>2496025
>win state power
It's called revolution numb nuts.

>>2496025
>In Russia alone, “reviving the Soviet Union” would mean restoring socialism within its current borders
Not with Gennady Zyuganov, and the current CPRF. Menshevik dengists at best.

if putin resoviets russia would belarus join?

>>2496184
Cucktin will never be based enough to resoviet.

>>2490164
<predict WW3 in 10 years
This is excellent news.

A quick one about all this bordiga-esque "internationalist communist party" cinematic universe: now I don't have the source at hand, but I remember reading a critical appraisal of bordigism where one of the main groups of this current has stated since the 1970s - basically the Nixon shock and all those shenanigans - that capitalism was already dead, but it's being able to apparently survive for many decades in some kind of zombified form. I'm not kidding, that's what they actually came up with. Make what you want with that.

>>2494856
Thats what I've been trying to say, but anons derailed the thread

>>2495170
Thats the thesis of the decomposition of capital from the ICC, they update the theory everytime it becomes refuted so they can always claim they're right. https://en.internationalism.org/content/17377/update-theses-decomposition-2023

>>2494856
Well I lay in bed and say it won't