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As a Serb, I am sick and tired of explaining to Westerners that no, Croats and Bosniaks and Kosovar Albanians were not the "good guys" of the 90s wars.

But also as a Serb, I am sick and tired of the perpetual reactionary victimhood and chauvinism of Serbs regarding the wars.

No, as a communist I say FUCK NATO, but also it's a bit like being German and complaining about the Allied bombing of Germany in WW2. Nobody gives a shit. I guess people give a shit about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I'd argue that's thanks to Japan's cultural capital being greater than the knowledge of Westerners regarding what Imperial Japan did.

Anyway, nobody was fighting to save Tito's socialism (the revisionists/opportunists already took over by that point, some of the younger ones still in politics today), nor was anybody fighting to preserve Yugoslavia. It was a chain of reactionary wars start to finish. And it could have been prevented. People died for what? Nothing.
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>>2290239
>>2344292
The post-disintegration states of Serbia and Croatia are exceptionally reactionary in normalising fascist collaborators, even compared with the others. Serbia having sheltered the Islamophobe mass murderers of the Bosnia war like Mladic and Karadzic and rehabilitating the Chetniks, and Croatia revering holocaust deniers and mass murderers like Tudjman while minimising the deeds of the Ustashe in a almost Ukraine-esque way. Slovenia deserves a special mention for being a reactionary anticommunist shithole, but Bosnia's mostly fucked over by the chvddery enabled and empowered in the neo-Chetnik Republika Srpska

>>2347092
Ni Lenjin nije nikog bio, fašistički crvu. Slaviću dan kada budete bili izbrisani.

>>2354263
ni manje ni vise nego lenjin lol,nisi ti ni l od lenjina.On je znao gde je,sta je i u potpunosti je razumeo politiku oko sebe i svoj narod,ti pak nemas pojma samo si odrodjeni degen sa liboskim kompleksima.
Proslavim ti mater kurvu kurcem picketino

>>2355458
>svoj narod
Hahahaha
Njegov "narod" su bili seljaci sa tendencijom sitne buržoazije sa čim su se Boljševici borili protiv
Jedino fašista, simpatizer sitne buržoazije, može da fetišizira takav "narod"
Bićeš izbrisan! Kajaćeš se, ali milosti neće biti, crvu bedni!

Hot take, Yugoslavia was doomed because of the short-sightedness of Marxism-Leninism on the national question
Let me explain. The Yugoslav communists followed the Leninist line of national self-determination. They were opposed to the nations within Yugoslavia being assimilated into one, Yugoslavs. This would spell the ultimate doom of Yugoslavia. It is thoroughly idiotic to think nations have a "right" to eternal existence. Look at France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Switzerland, etc. or look at China. All spawned from multiple petty nations to form a large one. Sure, regional identities persist in some places. This has the political relevance of an American saying he's Texan. A cute embellishment, and nothing more than that.



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They just had their yearly conference yesterday. New board for the next year.

Any love for the US Pirate Party?

They aren't ideologically locked into any specific socialist or communist current but they do good work. A good example of "syncretic" not becoming spineless centrist
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>>2373324
Which country is that, out of curiosity?

>>2373343
Australia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_Australia
Now merged with other similar minor parties to be part of our new Fusion Party, which is generally centrist-progressive but got pushback this election because some candidates were wacky cookers, recommending voters put far-rightoid parties above Greens socdems.
https://axvoter.tumblr.com/post/781594877090791424/fusion-delusion-and-htv-confusion

>>2373051
>the conditions for the Russian working class should be improved
<GLOWIE! GLOWIE!
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>>2372935
>>2372940
Swedish sources:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/piratpartiet-dementerar-vill-inte-legalisera-barnporr
https://www.sverigesradio.se/artikel/3900433
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/0E9zag/piratpartiet-dementerar-uttalande-om-barnporr
TL;DR: banning possession of child porn is bad because le information wants to be free. more specifically it's about the loli case. the point that CP is used as a battering ram for repressive legislation is true however
>>2372949
dude, people still push the historical negationist view that Troberg "ruined the party" or whatever, rather than Falkvinge destroying any momentum the party had with the child porn shit, right in the middle of the election season. last time I was involved with the party no one had any fundamentally negative to say about the guy. Falkvinge's defense of loli is repeated on this very board on a regular basis

while we're on the subject of PP, and the Swedish party in particular, what always annoyed me was that they were pro free software and pro open protocols in words but not in action. the entire intranet of the Party ran (still runs?) on some proprietary Microsoft crap. far too many Party members again and again encouraged people to become useds of sites like Facebook and Twitter, rather than herding them towards libre alternatives

Show me a picture of one Pirate Party member who doesn't look like a fucked up retard.



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>crushed philosophy
>undermined diamat and dialectics
>replaced materialism with naturalism
>wrecked anti-class theories
>tore down humanism
>flattened leftoid ideology
>scrapped subjective/objective truth
>abolished teleology and determinism
>destroyed critical theories
Nothing personnel, kid.

literary who



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>>2373317
You fucked up the link, dingus.

>>2373316
well games can be competitive but mainly i mean in the sense of competing against yourself, your own best score, rather than measuring yourself through someone else

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>>2373316
>Well you just said it your self. They can't personally compete or win so they do it through someone else.
They can easily participate in all manner of amaterur leagues but instead they rather passively "root, root, root, for the home team."

>>2373315
Speaking With American Men aka 20 million sinkhole to "understand" why Men young me hate democrats



 

If building popular support and organizing the masses gets you killed (Fred Hampton, MLK, Salvadorian and Guatemalan peasants, etc.) and a violent insurrection against the state is impossible, then what's plan? Due to climate change time is limited. And the possibility of a nuclear war keeps increasing (although seemingly unlikely for now).

Will these socialist groups like the PSA create enough class consciousness among the masses? Will anarchist organizations finally cultivate the discipline they need to build dual power?
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>>2373127
Yes! Definitely read Bordiga and make sure you give your local ICE agents a hug! They're proletarians, too!

>>2373160
Retarded stalinist doesn't even know the ICC stands with Damen and rejects Bordiga

>>2373162
>Retarded stalinist doesn't even know the ICC stands with Damen and rejects Bordiga
Oh, some this LeftCom group actually rejects ᴉuᴉlossnW's favorite "Communist". OK, then. I don't know who this "Damen" person, I don't care who he is, I don't want to know who he is. I don't care about the minuscule differences between a meme/troll tendency that exists only to be a controlled opposition to fascism.

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>>2373167
Dumb ahh illiterate succdem stalinoid can't read for shiet
>ᴉuᴉlossnW's favorite communist
Wait until you see what he had to say about Lenin dumb ass bourgeoisie worshipping uygha

>>2373160
Stalin would be proud of the ICC



 

Today is the anniversary of the Entebbe Airport Operation in which the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and the Revolutionary Cells (Germany) killed Yonatan Netanyahu, brother of Benjamin Netanyahu. This brave undertaking, despite its failure, was made possible by General Idi Amin Dada's staunch pro-Palestine, anti-Zionist, and anti-imperialist stance. Though he was only in power a few years, it's clear that Idi Amin could have been another Ghaddafi had he not been ousted from power. I highly recommend the documentary Général Idi Amin Dada: Autoportrait for more details. His proposals for African sovereignty and self-reliance were so radical that it scared the shit out of the neighboring comprador countries. Amin came to power ousting British puppet Milton Obote, and it was none other than Obote the coalition put back in power after Amin's ouster. Julius Nyerere, the self-proclaimed socialist president of Tanzania, led the charge against Amin, only to sell out against socialism in the 1980s. I also recommend following Amin's son, Mr. Lumumba Amin, for more truth nukes on his dad, and some daily denunciations of the Zionist entity: https://www.facebook.com/HusseinLumumbaAmin
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>>2373121
I really don't care what this cuck had to say about anything

>>2372985
bait or mental retardation, call it

>>2372906
Bait and mental retardation.
As if the modern day SA with its great bantustan where in any way comparable with a socialist republic

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>>2373126
You "care" enough to respond but you're not smart enough to have an argument. And if I had my way you'd be incapable of ever speaking on any matter again you reactionary vermin.



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Jos D'Haese (born August 24, 1992) is a Belgian politician who since 2019 has represented Antwerp Province in the Flemish Parliament, where he is the faction leader for the Workers' Party of Belgium, a socialist party with a Marxist background. D'Haese is also a member of the district council of Borgerhout and of the Belgian Senate.

This is the guy who will redeem Europe.
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>>2372094
the thread didn't break any rules. it's so easy to read the rules.

>>2373068
it is a condominium, an extremely artificial country that only exists because the british made it something "real", there would be no franco-dutch language that could solve that issue

>>2371895
>This is the guy who will redeem Europe.
Poasting in "lukewarm socdem" thread.

Nothing but uncomprimsing, terroristic DotP

>>2371952
>Brussel is already 40% muslim
Like, what

>>2373068
It's a fake country, a fake ppl.
Get a grip



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Yes I know worker coops aren't socialism because they still have markets and commodity production but could they at least break the power of the bourgeoisie since there would be no more capitalists at most there would be proletarians and petit bourgeoises

Given this isn't turning 100% of for profit businesses in a country into worker coops a good intermediate goal since it starves the bourgeoisie of their profits which they use to rule with politics?
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>>2362804
good point

>>2355512
Worker coops are a net good and anyone who doesn't think so has their head up their ass

>>2373065
>t. a liberal christian

>>2373069
What’s the matter, bud? Afraid of something that works for the workers?

>>2373071
Go back to your CSAM party thread



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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2334358
Different anon. But I do sometimes

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>>2333866
This is nothing compared to what was going on in Romania

>>2333856
>there were outright Natsoc elements in the government
Really?

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>>2304957
Thanks! this translation was published 2020 or 2021 (pdf says former, wikipedia's link says latter), when was the original book published?

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>>2333866
>>2334482
There is a logic to it, ML states do not see historical progress as something simple and binary. They see it as a very complex process where in different periods there were parts of history or certain personalities who were good and "progressive"(​​Nevsky, Peter the Great, Catherine) that does not mean that the economic and political situation in 1917 were good and glorious. They explain It was "revolutionary situation" and it can can lead to necessary conditions could lead to a revolution, and so on.
So Peter the Great was promoted and glorified because he objectively made a lot of effort for the progress of Russia, which led to Communism



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I’ve been a communist for a while and I have a number of questions that I’m hoping will get answered by what few remaining non-shit posters are on this board.

1) organizing. What does that even mean? And what does it look like? From what I can tell, organizing in America seems to be a bunch of people showing up to protest with groups like the PSL standing alongside it. But what goes beyond such protests? Why are there never long term plans or concrete demands? All that came of the BLM protests was that a democrat got elected but nothing more. But aside from people joining PSL, DSA, etc. where are the so called institutions of duel power being erected? How would they be erected? What would they be, do, and look like? And what other duel power institutions should we be working to build beyond unions and these socialist parties? Why is there seemingly no game plan for accomplishing any short term goals? How does one even start one of these institutions? To my knowledge, orgs like the PSL are never even involved with trade unions or tenants unions, they just canvas and show up to protests. Unionization rates in America are at a historic low, and given right to work legislation in many states, makes unionizing so much harder. How to we work around such laws?

I work at a gas station for example, what would a gas station union even look like?

2) How do we get people to care enough to commit literally anything to the cause? In my experience, organizing a get-together of just 3 or 4 friends can be incredibly difficult itself. And it doesn’t help that Americans are some of the least rebellious people in the world. You could easily explain the interworkings of our genocidal system to most and they would likely just shrug you off. We have more access to information than ever, on some level, most people know the system is fucked up, but nobody cares enough to do anything about it. So long as they have their Nikes sneakers, their beer, candy, ford escort, smart phones, video games. and Walmart, they don’t care. So long as it doesn’t effect them personally, they don’t care.

From my perspective, most of the people who involve themselves in socialist organizations and take particular interest in this topic due so more as a form of a hobby, or as a means of escape from their every day responsibilities, than they do out of genuine material necessity.

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>>2371111
>third worldists are ethno nationalists
Israel is the most prominent genocidal ethnostate right now. Who sells israel the majority of their annual weapons imports? The United States. In second place? India.

>>2370890

OP, first you need to realize that not all self-described leftist/socialist/communists have the same end goal.

For example, some groups/parties just want a social democracy like Sweden. Others want a planned economy/state capitalism like 1950s Soviet Union. Others just want to replicate Chinese economy. And you also have people like me, known as "leftcoms" or "ultras", who want a stateless, moneyless, classless society worldwide.

So the first question you have to ask yourself is what do you actually want?

>>2372053
Israel is textbook Sakaism

>>2370890
>What would revolution in America even look like?

>>2371124
Also this



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