/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Why do people make the "ecologists want the global south to live in dirt houses" and "enviromentalists are imperialists who don't want Africa to develop" when global warming is gonna make the Global South hell on Earth?

>>2432560
Displacement, projection
And it is in the main the imperialists making things hell on earth for the rest of us. Same as it's always been.
Like, "we are not the ones doing this, look at this anti-coal activist". Nonsense but it is very classic and mundane victim-blaming only with additional dimension to it. People who do not want us to fry are pitted cognitively (it's an illusion, a cheap magic trick) against the poor. Even if we do not want to fry.

>>2434684
Mods ban this soyshit thank you

>>2423750
>>2421123
How come the anti malthusian crowd never calls out people like this? People call the environmentalists antihuman but alot of ai nerds are openly excited for humanity to no longer exist.

>>2436004
I don't think about them at all

Yes, yes I don't care to argue.
We are just speaking of vastly different things. If we part ways with the acceptance of this fact, never to interact ever again, that is fine with me.
The "left-wing" of communism (sounds something like "but that is not communism") should rather than justify their theoretical righteousness, justify their existence in reality.
Or get out of our space, such as it is. Get out the way.
"less talky, more doey", as John Brown would say, if he had to interact with this internet-brained nonsense.
Something is not nothing.

>>2435932
>The "left-wing" of communism
not a thing

>>2435933
Fine, call it whatever you like. Again, theoretical arguments are all well and good but at some point they'll collide with reality. That's what I am interested in. At present (and in their 100+ year history) there is no attempt by them to facilitate any meeting with reality "on their terms". Hence, they are nothing more than a spectator, a backseat driver. They are apolitical for all intents and purposes but think themselves enlightened politically. Things turn into their opposite. Work that in there, cba

For further information refer back to >>2434681 which in turn refers back to my "last word" on their corporeal, real existence.
Talk is cheap, fellow travelers are cheap. I want real socialism in the real world, facilitated by anyone but them.
What they want is to be right. The point is to transcend this impulse (or "go beyond" such banality) and try, try, try to, again, build something in the real world, this reality we must inhabit, whether we want to or not.

>>2435709
LLMs use them a lot so people think they are le epic AI diagnoser when they see one

>>2435611
he overstates his case but book related

>>2435635
> don't even register to me as real things anymore.
hypernormalization is complete when things fade into the background

>>2435622
slop addicted manchildren who make a lifestyle out of consuming action figures and comic books and video games are obviously annoying but so is this kinda shit where people brag about how cool they are for not having seen anything.

>>2435573
HAHAHAHA DUDE YOU ARE SO PATHETIC, YOU LITERALLY LOOK LIKE A CARICATURE OF A SERIAL KILLER MAN, YOU ARE A JOKE

US suspends visas for Gaza residents after right-wing social media storm
The United States has announced that it is halting all visitor visas for people from Gaza pending a “a full and thorough” review, a day after social media posts about Palestinian refugees sparked furious reactions from right-wingers. The Department of State’s move on Saturday came a day after far-right activist and Trump ally Laura Loomer posted on X that Palestinians “who claim to be refugees from Gaza” entered the US via San Francisco and Houston this month.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/16/us-suspends-visas-for-gaza-residents-after-right-wing-social-media-storm
https://archive.ph/u0dqH

States move to send hundreds of National Guard members to Washington
So far, National Guard members have played a limited role in law enforcement in D.C. and it’s unclear why additional troops are needed. They have been seen patrolling at landmarks like the National Mall and Union Station and assisting with crowd control. A protest against Trump’s intervention drew scores to Dupont Circle on Saturday before a march to the White House, about 1.5 miles away. Demonstrators assembled behind a banner that said, “No fascist takeover of D.C.,” and some in the crowd held signs saying, “No military occupation.”
https://apnews.com/article/national-guard-washington-west-virginia-trump-crime-3aa338b80442e12559273ff5e526edc3

Farmers in US midwest squeezed by Trump tariffs and climate crisis
With the 2025 harvest of corn and soybeans approaching – America’s biggest two crops and the linchpins of agriculture – crop growers are facing down the gauntlet. Climatic swings, rocketing operating costs and low international demand, caused, in large part, by government policy in the shape of tariffs, has created the perfect storm.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/16/farmPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Is This the End of MAS?
As Bolivia celebrated its two hundredth year of independence last week, the mood on the streets and in the countryside was far from jubilant. National elections take place on Sunday, and Bolivia is confronting a spiraling economic crisis and the total collapse of the left-wing Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) that has been in power for the past two decades. It looks more than likely that the right wing will win power, with the latest polls putting far-right Jorge “Tuto” Quiroga in the lead at 24.5 percent and center-right Samuel Doria Medina in a close second at 23.6 percent. Bolivia now stands on the brink of a new historic cycle without the MAS in power.
https://jacobin.com/2025/08/bolivia-movement-toward-socialism-election

CP of the Workers of Spain, On the new wave of wildfires
On the new wave of wildfires razing thousands of hectares in several Autonomous Communities, the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of the Workers of Spain wants first to convey its condolences to the families and friends of the deceased people as well as its full support and solidarity with both the displaced people and the workers and volunteers that are carrying out extinction works under very harsh conditions. The PCTE considers that the key element easing the ferociousness of the current wildfires is the lack of planning and the absolute neglection of the different administrations. Even though they presume to pursue “green policies”, they continue to let the wilderness burn every year while they maintain miserable and precarious labor conditions for those who fight the wildfires.
http://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-the-Workers-of-Spain-On-the-new-wave-of-wildfires/

V. I. Lenin: Where to Begin?
In recent years the question of “what is to be done” has confronted Russian Social-Democrats with particular insistence. It is not a question of what path we must choose (as was the case in the late eighties and early nineties), but of what practical steps we must take upon the known path and how they shall be taken. It is a question of a system and plan of practical work. And it muPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2435736
>NPA Carries Out Successful Attack On AFP Camp In Quezon Province
This and other reports seem to indicate that the self-criticism of the CPP-NPA carried out as part of the third rectification wasn't hollow words. They are taking a more agressive stance and pushing back against the encirclement of the neo-colonial regime and their backers. Very encouraging.

>>2435450
you're literally listing empty phrases. you need to think more instead of confusing that things that look the same have the social content behind them. dogmatist.
>>2435434
it's not a matter of belief but of objective, existing reality.

>>2435381
Belarus is not even run by a nominally Communist Party, and China, Vietnam, and Laos, all have Stock Exchanges, Private Companies, and Billionaires, and are run by Dengist/Khrushchevite Social Fascist Capitalist Roader Revisionist Parties that LARP as “Communist”, thus making them Dictatorships of the Bourgeoisie that have Private ownership of the Means of Production which characterizes the Capitalist Mode of Production, and can be called Capitalist States in accordance with the Dialectical Materialist analysis of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, with the massive caveats that a Maoist faction taking over the CCP and purging the Dengists could place China back in the Socialist Mode of Production on the Shining Path to Communism without another Maoist PPW there, and you should still Critically support Social Democratic/State Capitalist Dengist China against U$ Imperialism, for the same reason you should Critically support the Left-Liberal U$ Democrats against the Crypto-Fascist Theocratic Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans, because despite the fact that I am a staunch Maoist, I still recognize the Material reality that a Controlled Opposition is better then No Opposition, not because a Maoist like me genuinely supports these Bourgeois entities, but because they are “Lesser Evil” factions of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System who De Facto prevent the “Greater Evil” factions of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System from completely crushing the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World before the World Maoist PPW can be successful when the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War, thus creating a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the Map I posted, and I plan on posting an improved version of this Map by the end of this month, which will finally divide Sub-Saharan Africa into an appropriate number of SSRs based on its Ethno-Linguistic demographics, which I have been thoroughly researching over the last few months) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2435458
lmao, lmao

This isn’t going to ease US sanctions

>>2435215
>Cuba's private sector outweighs state
<in retail
Why did you make a thread for this?

>>2435160
Satan is the one responsible for giving mankind free will and spiritual independence from Yaldabaoth through his union with Eve

>>2435111
Okay? And?

>>2435160
Satanism is nothing short of the rejection of Christ
You are a Satanist

So if communism becomes christian, it stops being satanic?

>>2435111
Theocrats are the biggest oppressors of the working class. Please fuck off to 4chan

Zeev Sternell wrote a lot drawing a thread between Sorel and fascism. There's some debate about this, but I found a summary.

>I’m reading Zeev Sternhell’s The Birth of Fascist Ideology (it is is excellent). Sternhell argues that fascism should be understood, in the first place, as a cultural movement – an ideology; the formation of this ideology precedes fascism’s formation as a set of organised political movements. For Sternhell, fascism’s origins should be seen as a synthesis between:

>a) an idealist revision of Marxism
>b) nationalism

>Sternhell discusses Georges Sorel at some length – Sorel is, for Sternhell, an important figure in the idealist revision of Marxism. Marxist theory in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was (generally) characterised by: a) an emphasis on an ‘economistic’ science of society: historical materialism; b) revolutionary opposition to bourgeois society / capitalism; c) a conviction that the proletariat were the revolutionary agents of history, as part of a class-struggle analysis of that history; d) opposition to private property: a commitment to the socialisation of central aspects of economic life.

>In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, Western Marxism splintered. The social democrats abandoned – in practice and subsequently in theory – the commitment to revolutionary seizure / overthrow / command of the state. Instead, the proletariat became agents of history via the effectiveness of labour movement parties within the democratic system. Revolutionary socialism was successful in Russia, but Leninist-style revolutionary parties became minority interests in most of Western Europe. This was, Sternhell argues, the dominant response on the left to the apparent unwillingness of the Western European proletariat to engage in revolutionary overthrow of the state – the goals remained the same, but reform, rather than revolution, became the means. [This associated with the wrought but successful transformation of liberalism into liberal democracy – the expansion of the vote transformed revolutionary Marxism into Social Democracy in most states where liberal democracy was instituted.]

>The Sorelian revision of Marxism, by contrast, maintained the commitment to revolution, but abandoned, instePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2434411
>Sternhell argues that fascism should be understood, in the first place, as a cultural movement – an ideology; the formation of this ideology precedes fascism’s formation as a set of organised political movements
This is anti-Marxist drivel, supposedly ideology came before any political direction? Meanwhile in the real world, Italian fascism was in power for literal years until ᴉuᴉlossnW shat together his "Corporate State" routine.

>>2434411
this

>>2434392
lol?

>>2434411
>Zeev Sternell
Sternell is not a good authority on Sorel.

>>2435010
Yanis Varoufakis tried to establish an alternative emergency currency so they would have a concrete plan on what to do and actually meaningfully threaten EU with leaving the union if they keep up their retarded evil austerity policies
And it all failed because his own "leftist" party betrayed him

the issue isnt taxes; its taxes being wasted. if you got amazing service from the government, taxes could be raised, so it begins there. the government refuses to improve itself, so it has to be forced to update itself.

>>2435014
Okay well in my "country" we're not basing ourselves off liberal democracy or international relations with bourgeois institutions anyways

>You are now in country (Not America because it's unironically special due to it's exorbitant privilege and being the consumer of the entire world) charge of an entire country
>how you could fund public sector without capital fleeing the country or conspiring to get rid of you?
Use the surveillance state against the capitalists, nationalize strategic businesses, set up capital controls, and a hard dirigisme regime, with taking the experiences of past dirigisme regimes into account. Nationalize the media, do agitation and propaganda, politically mobilize the people.

>>2435030
>Use the surveillance state against the capitalists, nationalize strategic businesses, set up capital controls, and a hard dirigisme regime, with taking the experiences of past dirigisme regimes into account. Nationalize the media, do agitation and propaganda, politically mobilize the people.
And after all this, set up a commission to set up a modern day directive planned economy that includes all the means of production.

Judge drops domestic terrorism charges against Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protester
DeKalb superior court judge Gregory Adams ruled on Thursday that defendant Jamie Marsicano’s due process and constitutional rights to a speedy trial were violated by the state’s ongoing delays and failure to issue an indictment two and a half years after arresting them at a nearby music festival. “The judge acknowledged that the state was delaying on purpose, which is what the public suspected and activists have been saying,” said Xavier de Janon, Marsicano’s attorney. “It’s the idea that the process is the punishment.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/15/cop-city-protester-charges-dropped

A rescinds weeks of parental leave — even for some giving birth this week
These workers aren't losing all their leave — 12 weeks of paid family leave is guaranteed under a federal law that President Trump signed during his first administration. But their union contract provided for another four weeks of unpaid time off on top of that. That's now gone.
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/va-maternity-leave-veterans-union

Blue No Matter Who?: Jeffries Slammed for 'Gutless' Refusal to Endorse Zohran Mamdani
"He's going to have to demonstrate to a broader electorate—including in many of the neighborhoods that I represent in Brooklyn—that his ideas can actually be put into reality," Jeffries said in comments that drew praise from scandal-ridden incumbent Democratic Mayor Eric Adams, who opted to run independently. Another Democrat, disgraced former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, is also running on his own.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/hakeem-jeffries-zohran-mamdani

New Mexico Republican candidate gets 80 years for shootings at Democrats’ homes
A failed political candidate in New Mexico has been sentenced to 80 years in federal prison for his convictions in a series of drive-by shootings at the homes of state and local lawmakers in the aftermath of the 2020 election. A jury convPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Trump Is Launching a Hostile Takeover of Puerto Rico
On Monday, August 4, President Donald Trump dismissed five of the seven members of the Puerto Rico Financial Oversight and Management Board (FOMB), the entity that, for all intents and purposes, governs Puerto Rico. The move likely signals the start of a Trumpian takeover of the island that will only intensify austerity, poverty, and the multifaceted crises afflicting the oldest colony in the world. No one should shed a tear for members of the board — or La Junta, as Puerto Ricans not-so-lovingly call it. The FOMB was created by federal law (PROMESA, signed by President Barack Obama in 2016) to address Puerto Rico’s financial crisis and oversee its debt restructuring process. It was given near-unlimited power by Congress to set Puerto Rico’s budget, veto local laws, and overrule the elected governor. For the past decade, the board has used that authority to implement a draconian austerity regime in Puerto Rico. It has slashed pensions, cut funding for public education, and pushed for privatization of the island’s electrical grid to companies that charge Puerto Ricans more money for a poorer service. While Puerto Ricans feel the pain, bondholders swim in profits. The board’s members, and its army of lawyers and consultants, are handsomely paid as well. Executive director Robert Mujica Jr, who was Andrew Cuomo’s former budget chief in New York, makes $625,000 a year — more than the president of the United States. As of 2022, McKinsey had raked in $120 million for consulting on the island’s debt restructuring. By now, that figure is surely higher. The Trump administration has cited the board’s profligacy and excess as cause for the five members’ dismissal, but that’s a cheap misdirection. First, because while the FOMB was created by Congress and its members are appointed by the president, all salaries and fees are paid for by Puerto Rico’s government. Few reasonable people will believe that the Trump administration is particularly concerned about the well-being of Puerto Ricans. Second, because the five members of the board dismissed by Trump were all appointed by Democrats. The two remaining members of the FOMB, John Nixon and Andrew Biggs, are Republicans.
https://jacobin.com/2025/08/puerto-rico-trump-takeover-fomb

Trump Is Sending ThoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

Thank you based new anon

>>2434372
Based, the Party was right in the end and wreckers who reject the authority of the Party should not hold political strenth.

>>2434431
Even in 1984, Winston is freely able to chat with a prole outside the Party districts and ask about how life was before INGSOC, since the Party knows that the Proles are so stupid that there's no need to vigorously police their thoughts outside of hosting fake lotteries.
The whole theory of history that Orwell has is of some three metaphysical categories of people that exist across all time periods, across all stages of development, the "High", the "Middle", and the "Low". And the only threat to the "High"s power exclusively comes from the "Middle", and the "Low" is always forever doomed to stupidity and being duped by the "Middle". Thus revolution can never rid human society of class oppression, since the categories of "High" and "Low" will always and forever remain, and revolution can never actually be of the will of the working class, since it will always and forever be a cynical tool of the "Middle" and never of the "Low".

>>2434369
>the revolution will work
>just one more ditch full of corpses, comrades
Shitheads like you always think the Utopian future of their dreams is one ditch full of 'reactionaries' next. One of the great ironies in bleating sheep like you is that you refuse to come to terms with the fact that the idealists who would actually take the praxis seriously and develop productive forces efficiently and engage in class struggle are invariably among those who would be tossed in the ditches while bourgs in red suits hijack the revolution and the revolution slowly sinks back into capitalism.

>>2434493
>The revolution won't work
>Also violence is le bad
Lmao retard wrecker anticommunist

The real truth is that "Animal Farm" and "1984" were more mid than anything else; neither brilliant nor utter dogshit, just kind of the boring middle-of-the-road stuff teachers assign in English class. Not even bad, just mediocre.