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Are there any books about how the Federal Reserve engineers controlled crises? Or, the role of central banking under the capitalist mode of production?

Share your ideas?

Without the federal reserve, would inflation alone cause the proletariat to rise up? Therefore the federal reserve stabilizes the status quo, etc.

Jay Powell states in every hearing that the Federal Reserve's mission is to reduce inflation down to two percent. He also states that the strong labor market is the driving force of inflation and that the labor market will need to be softened.

These crises benefit no one, except the major capitalists who consume the competition and accumulate more property due to firesale prices.
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It's anything but controlled. USian politicians are doing everything but begging China for audience, but China refuses meeting them. They keep on declaring that they are negotiating the meetings, that it's decided already on this date, but every time it's either balloon, or it's memoryholed, or some other shit happening. If it was controlled, would Yellen be hoping so much for Chinese bailing her out like in 2008?



I see your logic. The crises may seem uncontrolled, but they really are more or less.

The crises seem uncontrolled due to the catastropic effects for most; as it seems the Fed pushed too hard, though both unemployment/economic downsizing directly drives down wages.

Essentially, the degree of crisis determines the degree to which the biggest bourgeoise can accumulate property, by swallowing petty-bourgeois competition and fire sale prices, etc.


I see your point, but also, I fail to see how the fed is engineering the real underlying crisis, overproduction is a thing that would happen without credit, albeit faster, credit only ever allows this outcome to be extended, and the keeping of low interest rates by quantitative easing, and open market operations, which were used so far to keep interest rates low, arguably were extending the horizon of the crisis, by raising interest rates, the fed is not crashing the banks, and thus the economy, they just let the system loose, which then will crash itself


>The crises seem uncontrolled due to the catastropic effects for most; as it seems the Fed pushed too hard, though both unemployment/economic downsizing directly drives down wages.

Crisis is uncotrolled because Fed failed at their own theory and had to thread uncharted waters. They've said something like this. This is uncharted waters for them, they don't fucking know what they are doing and whether or not it will help.

But yeah, crisis is toooootally controlled.

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so how the fuck are we supposed to organize or get together socially at all when every single leftist space on the internet is basically a cult? like I'm having a mental health crisis and i really wanted people to talk to on fbi.gov or something but literally every single fucking server is locked behind a bunch of questions and qualifiers and they want you to write a fucking essay about how marxist you are. Literally the only server i got in so far i got banned in less than 24 hours for something completely inane, i don't even really understand what I did.

im so fucking lonely and alienated but I'm basically excluded from 99% of spaces where ostensibly some like minded people might be, I'm sick of it and i don't know what the fuck to do anymore.
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> like I'm having a mental health crisis
Mental health crisis is for fags

Run 2 miles a day, lift weights every 2 days and come back in 2 weeks if you have a "mental health crisis"



you are hereby condemned to 40 minutes of white guy video essay on youtube


lol lmao even


Where are you "meeting" fascist furries? Are you talking about retarded takes off Twitter like your pic suggests?


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People often forget here even with history, that the Social Democracy meant the building of an alternative to capitalism, building structures within the party organ to assist and build culture and art and education for the proletariat. At some point the Social Democratic Party abandoned those revolutionary principles and instead of actually building youth programs and public gymnasiums at the expense of the party and all of these things meant to elevate the Proletariat to proper culture that was denied to them by capitalism and capitalists. At some point you see the Social Democratic Party abandon the building of a socialist society as it's objective program, understanding that the political struggle is the class struggle and vice versa. When did they become so conservative that they abandoned even the objective of their party programme? With regards to reform and revolution, to many socialists revolution and reform was one and the same thing, so this was never the real question because it was answered. But at some point during WW2 and after Social Democratic Parties abandoned all revolutionary and politically charged programmes even objectives of reformation and transformation via electoralism was abandoned by the Social Democratic Party to do nothing but maintain the capitalist status quo.
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>When did they become so conservative that they abandoned even the objective of their party programme?
When the SPD gained more and more power in weimar germany he at one point rejected revolution and said that
>socialism can be achieved through reform
Which then transformed into
>workers already have power, there is no grand alternative needed.
>The movement is everything, the final goal is nothing

>But at some point during WW2 and after Social Democratic Parties abandoned all revolutionary and politically charged programmes even objectives of reformation and transformation via electoralism was abandoned by the Social Democratic Party to do nothing but maintain the capitalist status quo.

Social democrats abandoned radical politics way before that. During and before ww1 even.

Let me quote some stuff
>During the elections of 1896 he published a series of critiques on Marxism, which were later bundled into Die Voraussetzungen des Sozialismus und die Aufgaben der Sozialdemokratie
>He criticised the marxist proposition that the petit bourgouesie and independent farmers would be destroyed through capitalist competition, citing statistics from the US, UK, Germany and France which showed that small bussinesses were increasing in number and agriculture was mainly based on small holdings. Additionally, the growth in publically traded companies increases the amount of shareholders in society.
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It might be of interest, OP, to note the following:

Petit bourgoies members of social democratic parties continually reproduce Bernsteinism despite not knowing who this guy is or even reading theory, because Bernsteinism is in its core the ideology of the labour aristocracy and the bleeding heart petit bourgeoisie
To Bensteinists, socialism is the movement. Taking better care of its each other is socialism to them. My old party (before i got kicked out for being too marxist) had as its official goal:
>The party has the goal of establishing a socialist society, a society where human dignity, equality of people and solidarity between people are realised.
To social democrats, this is socialism. It is not concrete, there is no point at which you can objectively say there is socialism. The movement is everything, the goal is nothing.


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When famines happen under capitalism, it is not considered as a failure of the system, because capitalism doesn't exist to serve the starving masses (and those were extremely deliberate, the Irish depopulation is the worst in modern history). Winston Churchill just said the Indians will breed like rabbits regardless and kept exploiting the colonies.

When famines happen under socialism, that represents a failure of the system which is recognized and measures are taken to prevent it. And it just so happens that Russia constantly had famines throughout its history, which magically stopped after the 1930s.


Bruh, who the fuck suggested that the irish and bengal famines were caused by social democracy?


>Irish famine of 1845
>social democracy
>SPD, the first social democratic party ever, was founded in 1869


This is a fun thread for dumb dilemmas. Give us your 'which side do you support's, your 'would you rather's and your trolley problems. Yell, laugh and reason.

We'll start with a variation of an old classic:
Hitler, ᴉuᴉlossnW, Thatcher, Reagan, W Bush, Trump
All before they gained relevance.
You have a gun with two bullets, where do they go?
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1 Marry Fred, fraternal kiss Sankara, kill stupid sexy Stalin

2 [tough choice, not sure]

3 Kill Thatcher, rape Reagan, marry gorby (merely the symptom)

4 Do I get to kill Sr. before he procreates? I'd kill Dubya but that's out of ignorance of what Senior really did. Marry Clinton; the least harmless but because of circumstance…. you know, being a female US presidential candidate.


>Hitler, ᴉuᴉlossnW, Thatcher, Reagan, W Bush, Trump
>You have a gun with two bullets, where do they go?



Got BTFO and used a bullet on himself. This is a free spot.
Also got BTFO but also revealed the idealist "socialist" -> fascist evolution that has been so useful in understanding fascism. Keep to see strung up again.
>W Bush
Did 9/11 and helped begin amerika's downward spiral. Shooting him would not be necessary.
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Hitler's arguably the least worst one to be in power out of the other nazis (most batshit and out of control) so I spare him lest they end up being worse as a faction.
Icing ᴉuᴉlossnW would probably undermine the formation of fascism and the Axis powers so he gets one.
Thatcher, Reagan, and Bush were essentially puppets carrying out a deeper plan so the only real question there would be if losing any of them would be a big enough deal for optics reasons. Reagan might win out there since he had enough charisma to still be beloved by like half the US today. A shittier Reagan may actually have made a difference for the ideological conditions of the US. Thatcher is so hated it's a punchline and so is Bush not being the one in charge.
Trump is too much of a based retard to kill. He fucked everyone's shit up in ways that some other Republican couldn't have done.
So that's one for Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW and another for Cheeto ᴉuᴉlossnW.

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>Hitler, ᴉuᴉlossnW, Thatcher, Reagan, W Bush, Trump
Shoot Hitler and Reagan, most geopolitical impact. Bush and trump wouldnt even exist if you did this.


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Thinking about mass shooters and their motives, does it really matter what they believe? The dopamine rush associated with the entire spectacle of the thing requires nothing behind it, leaving the actor total creative freedom in the symbology they use or manifesto they write

What's frightening about the act isn't the accessory motive they claim or what's developed by the media to be the shooter's 'mythos'. What's frightening is the idea that it really doesn't matter, anyone could do this, at any time, for no reason at all. Terror has no face.

There seems to be a brutal awareness of this among certain sections, to the extent that you'll sometimes see headlines like this. In America I think there's still somewhat of a sense that this can still be managed, through regulation of firearms or "arming teachers" and similar.
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This has been debunked. Forcing autistic children to socialize causes them to melt down and shut down. ABA therapy is barbaric and putting autistic children in public schools is no different.


Quote me supporting ABA or forcing kids to socialize though. If I was homeschooled or sent to special ed just for being an autistic mutist my life would be 100x worse. Silently sitting by other kids is the only reason my brain properly developed and I became a successful adult despite being autistic


Pretty much all mass murderers have faced financial and familial tragedy, stress, or other similar extended hardship within the last year of committing the act.


Some fash shooters may inspire others as in the case of Tarrant for which he inspired the Poway dumbfuck and El Paso bozo


You don't need to force kids to socialize, you just need to get them acclimated to being around other people.

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People here like to say that the USSR's role in WW2 was defensive and the real ones to blame were the West for the failure to create an anti-Nazi coalition with the Soviet Union. Their justification is that after Stalin was rejected by the western allies, he had no choice but to enact the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact because other countries signed various international agreements with Adolf Hitler throughout the 1930s.

However, even western historians from today going back to the end of WW2 widely criticize the Munich Agreement as a symbol of "appeasement policy" which proved to be a disastrous move. However, when the Nazis themselves broke the Munich Agreement with their invasion of Prague in March 1939, the western allies THEMSELVES approached the USSR about a new anti-Nazi coalition. https://books.google.it/books/about/The_Twentieth_century_World_and_Beyond.html?id=2HiUQgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

However, nobody ever talks about this. Why didn't Stalin agree to the anti-Hitler coalition and why is nobody talking about this? The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact could have never happened if Stalin decided to accept their request, he did have a choice about enacting it after all.
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>top left
Don't look up the Mitford Sisters.


I don't think this is fascist revisionist history this is just poles gonna pole


jannies ought to just lock the thread when op gets fucked this thoroughly.


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>Soviet offer of aid to Czechoslovakia was appreciated

Yeah, that's why British have sent people without any right to negotiate anything to meating Soviet Miniter of Defence (or was it People's Commissar?) Voroshilov.

GOOOD i fucking hate google, never fucking gives me the text itself, only the brainlet opinions on the matter of yet another anticommunist historian. Here, have Russian version, because no Westoid historian thinks that Western public needs to read the text itself. http://www.hrono.ru/dokum/193_dok/19390812cccp.html

Marshal K. E. Voroshilov reads out the text of his authority **, after which the text is translated into French and English.

>Gen. Dumenk presents his mandate.

>Adm. Drax declares that he has no written authority; he is authorized only to negotiate, but not to sign the pact (convention).

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>It is worth noting that at the time, the Western powers were still hoping to negotiate a diplomatic solution with Germany and avoid war.

Hell no, Allies were itching to go to war with USSR over Finland EVEN WHEN AT WAR WITH GERMANY. https://histdoc.net/pdf/BRFO1940-03-12.pdf

M. DALADIER made a statement in the Chamber this afternoon in reply to the interpellations
regarding French aid to Finland. After describing the material assistance which France had
given Finland, and the various expressions of thanks which had been received from the
Finnish Government, he continued as follows :—
" 'Will you also send men?' I was asked during the Secret Session. I replied : 'Yes.' The
decision was taken at the Supreme War Council of 5th February. As far as France is
concerned, since 26th February French troops have been organised, specially equipped and
assembled, and transports have been ready in two great ports on the Channel and the Atlantic.
We were therefore ready to give assistance in men. The British Government, who were to be
responsible for the greater part of the assistance in men and for the naval protection of the
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…and communists, other than Chinese communists, have absolutely nothing to show for themselves.

In a time where Europe is cracking and spontaneous class war emerges, in particular the health workers, firemen, and farmers (which with highly developed mechanization don't differ that much from the proletariat) protesting; when France is once again starting to kindle; when there's a actual war displacing and killing millions in Eastern Europe, when communists there could be in the trenches agitating against the war – the Western communists have NOTHING to show. Why? Is multipolarity the only thing which will immesirate the western proletarian sufficiently so that they once again turn to the tool of proletarian revolution in the time of imperialism?

What is to be done?
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incorrect analysis in that it's hyperfocused on only a single (important) set of dialectics and thusly makes a vulgar statement about another.

The western communists rise in power proportionally to the united state's fall from dominant hegemony - settlers are as annoyed by having things taken from them as those are have been completely deprived are and white solidarity is dead. Focus on the internal fight against fascism for that is your place. This is the main fault of the 'patriotic socialist,' he has tunnel vision on the geopolitical aspect and can't see who the actual enemy back home is, he befriends the reactionary enemy


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>You enter a trying to tear each other down because they can't fight back against the billion pound leviathan demon and you're competition is a stupidpol/trueanon/leftypol poster




ok OP are you going to put in more work or point fingers from your armchair? It is a long and thankless road that we walk but if you just stop walking you'll never get there for sure.


Calm down Badenpanada

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West Bank settlers win Israel parliament vote
Israel's settler movement celebrated Tuesday after parliament annulled part of a law banning them from residing in areas of the occupied West Bank the then Israeli government evacuated in 2005. That year the government of Ariel Sharon, a long-time settler champion turned peacemaker, oversaw a unilateral withdrawal by Israel from the Gaza Strip, and the removal of Jewish settlers from the Palestinian enclave and four settlements in the northern West Bank.

Top Israeli minister: ‘No such thing’ as Palestinian people
“There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history. There is no Palestinian language,” he said in France late Sunday. He spoke at a memorial event for a French-Israeli right-wing activist who denied the existence of a Palestinian nation and advocated annexation of the West Bank. The lectern was adorned with what appeared to be an image showing the map of Israel that included the occupied West Bank, Gaza and Jordan.

Thousands mourn four civilian Kurds killed while celebrating Nowruz
Local sources told Middle East Eye that brothers Farhan Din, Mohammed, Ismail Othman, and Ismail's 18-year-old son were killed on Monday evening when fighters from the Sharqiya Army opened fire on people who had lit fires for Nowruz in the town of Jindayris. Three people were also wounded, one of them seriously.

HPG: One soldier killed after Turkish attack on guerrilla positions
The HPG Press Centre statement on Monday said: "The Turkish occupying army is committing war crimes and continuously attacking our forPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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'imperialism is fine bc theyre not a nation'


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Thanks News Anon


>"genocide is fine because they're not a people"
Ironic coming from israel, a country of european and slavic larpers with a fake reconstructed language.


I come back to /leftypol/ for this. Never stop.


>wake up
>hatred for Israel intensifies

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What if the proletariat isn't the revolutionary subject?

There's one really good argument against Marxism. And it isn't the stupid arguments about how Hayek said central planners can't solve the millions of equations, Venezuela, or human nature.

The real problem with Marxism is the lack of a revolutionary subject. In countries where socialist revolutions succeeded, they were often on the backs of peasants, not industrial workers. There are precisely zero examples of successful proletarian revolutions, and zero ATTEMPTS at new proletarian revolutions since the 1980s or so (i.e. Peru), certainly for the whole 21st century.

The fact is that the thesis of the proletariat as the revolutionary subject has essentially been disproven by the 20th century. Any form of socialism or communism going forward would need to have an alternative driving force, and would therefore not really be Marxism.

It's actually possible capitalism doesn't even produce a revolutionary subject at all.

Other possibilities are counter-economics (maybe coops or prefigurative cybernetics), ultra-vanguardism aka blanquism and coups, accelerationism, or even some more outlandish examples like building humanity into a hivemind so that it is ontologically incapable of commodity production and therefore defaults to borg-communism.

Even though Bookchin rightly critiques Marxism in this regard, he just goes on larping "democracy" as though nothing is changed, there's no reason for a bunch of randos to make communism or anarchism or communalism whether you call them proletariat or not.

I've seen way too many social movements fail or be swallowed, only for the next generation of rubes to come along and mindlessly cheer for war, imperialism, capitalism and for the elites to drink their blood. The only difference is trad flavored vs woke flavored, real life is like the ending of mass effect the fucking universe explodes and you only get to choose the color of the explosion.
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You can't ignore that China exists, whether or not you're a based maoist or dengist or whatever descriptive term, they are closer to socialism than anywhere else and have a largely marx-pilled mass

I think a lot of people in this thread are also ignoring the existence of economic crashes and the fact that even settlers can be revolutionary if they have their treats taken away from them, couple this with white solidarity having have successfully been broken in a united front consisting of us leftists are left-lib bourgies who found racism abhorrent


>>1407580 (me)
>us leftists are left-lib bourgies who found racism abhorrent
us leftists and* left-lib bourgies who found racism abhorrent

How are we suppose to ignore this and just whine about revolution being impossible? We have the multi-pronged attack of dedollarization from the large :AES state, china and a breaking of white solidarity by the black movement and lgbt movement. The only real praxis right now is then preparation for the large inevitable economic crash that is being staved off with money printing/inflation


any burger comrade who's serious has to at the very least donate to shit like the ongoing Amazon unionization efforts or WSB


>>1407606 (me)

Even if it's literally just one fucking dollar, they need as much help as possible


read lenin - the reasons for marx's predictions of which countries would have revolutions being wrong is because economic imperialism did not really exist at the time


>The Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) has exposed underground cells of the so-called Communist Party of the Soviet Union in Kyiv and six other oblasts of the country.

>Source: Security Service of Ukraine 

>Quote: "This is a Russian organisation controlled by the FSB that actively participates in subversive activities against Ukraine.

>After the full-scale invasion, the alliance organisers tried to create an extensive network of ‘regional committees’ in our country.

>Their ‘activists’ were supposed to call for mass support for the Russian occupiers and set up ‘commandant's offices’ to collect intelligence and prepare enemy sabotage.

>They campaigned for local residents to join their units, including former and active military personnel who started their service during the Soviet era."

>Details: The SSU has established that the pro-Kremlin organisation is headed by Yurii Shchipkov, the head of the "Central Committee of the Bolsheviks" based in Moscow.

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I'm still here though


Not being racist and full of rich people and full of dark money is a pretty low bar to clear


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Don't worry it was my first thought. All they know how to do is lie. It makes one lazy.

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