/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Jews and Sunnis are one and the same
We need Shia Liberation

>>2499513
Hamas are Palestinian nationalists. They're Muslims, but religion doesn't come first to them, otherwise they'd be persecuting Christians along with Israel and ISIS (who they're currently fighting in Gaza right now in the "Popular Front").

>>2499516
I mean Popular Forces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Forces

>>2498483
>Meanwhile, western left wing politics were injected with the identity virus

Yes, western left wing politics was going along just fine for many years and the West was undergoing all kinds of leftist egalitarian reforms, but then the left started caring too much about trivial matters like racism and misogyny and all social progress in the world came to a screeching halt.

>>2498030
Wrong. The Great Worldwide Proletarian Revolution began 1917.

>>2498837

I was being sarcastic, sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

I just turned the area around me within 5 metres anarchist. I just did it again. I'm makhno.

>>2495639
Fair enough.

>>2495603
>Go to school, get a real job, and be normal, you histrionic dipshits
who says we don't do that.

why do people want to run away to different countries when the decline of the burger empire will reveal better places to live on this continent? imagine if the federal govt collapsed and regional shit like the great lakes became important again. i would love to live in a rejuvenated Detroit.

>>2495715
The people who constantly rant about how all Americans regardless of status should be butchered are the ones suggesting leaving, for some reason

its joever

this is highkey retarded twin.

whatever comes after the putler regime, will no doubt be another dictatorship

Aight cool

>>2498982
there will have to be a reckoning some day with the pro-west pro-capitalist elements.

>CENTRAL BANK GOVERNOR NABIULLINA IS THE NATO BANKERS’ FAVOURITE RUSSIAN BANKER, PRESIDENT PUTIN’S TOO

> President Vladimir Putin declared as recently as last week at the Eastern Economic forum in Vladivostok. “Let me refrain from evaluating the Central Bank’s work. Let me note instead that our Central Bank is highly respected across the international finance community.”

>In 2015 Euromoney, a publication owned by a UK private equity investment fund, announced it was giving Elvria Nabiullina (lead image) its “Central Bank Governor of the Year” award.
>In 2017, The Banker, published in London by the Anglo-Japanese Financial Times, named Nabiullina its award winner as Central Banker of the year in Europe.


>On September 14 Sergei Glazyev, once a Kremlin economic advisor and now the economist in charge of union state planning by the Russian and Belarus governments, attacked Nabiullina explicitly.
>“The Central Bank’s leadership once again halted economic growth with the potential for output growth of 8% per year and led the situation to another collapse in the ruble exchange rate. Then there is a surge in inflation again and an increase in the [CBR rate] percentage to combat it.
>The Central Bank has been driving the economy in this vicious circle for many years in the interests of currency speculators. There is really no ‘Inflation targeting’; in fact, the Central Bank’s management serves the interests of speculators by suppressing investment loans and encouraging capital exports abroad. They act strictly according to the instructions of Washington financial organizations, blocking the development of the economy and undermining the military-industrial complex.”

https://johnhelmer.net/central-bank-governor-nabiullina-is-the-nato-bankers-favourite-russian-banker-president-putins-too/

>>2498557
that's what I meant by directive, I wasn't sure what to call it because it isn't an EO.

>>2498554
he aint done shit

>>2498341
i bet this anon would post this image in response to someone talking about the genocide in palestine lol. just a deeply unserious individual

>>2498570
>i bet this anon would post this image in response to someone talking about the genocide in palestine lol. just a deeply unserious individual
How's the weather in Chagos.

Just posting to finally bumplock this old thread.

>your parents caused inflation
waow fucking geniouse analysis

>>2498946
And they're retards like nig-nog in the background

>its inflation guise not the collapse of the western imperial system
why are channers so retarded?

>>2498954
Re-read the thread, from - not by.

>>2468558
>they for decades tried to use the THREAT of developing nukes
They didn't. That's purely Bibi/Israel slop.

My favorite Croatian has gotten Chinapilled.

Sick of Charlie Kirk? Here's some NEW BREAD:
>>2476547

>>2414001
I actually believe the charts, the localities in China are broke, and there has to be defaults and repossessions. However:

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202412/18/WS67621ea0a310f1265a1d37c2.html

The Chinese state has net wealth between 140-240% of GDP, that's even after 130% of GDP augmented debt is factored in.

The debt crisis is not about the Chinese state in general, but about Chinese localities and the accumulation of debt. The Chinese likely have 10 years to fix the debt crisis before it blows, and Chinese localities can be assumed to be broke for all intents and purposes, but the Chinese center and SOEs are rich.

US military brass brace for firings as Pentagon chief orders top-level meeting
Hegseth’s team reportedly plans to record and publicly release the address later, according to CNN, which cited three of its sources. … According to the Times, the Pentagon informed congressional committees overseeing the military on Friday that Hegseth intends to use the gathering to share with “most senior service members his intent for the department”, including new guidance on “military fitness standards and several other areas of interest”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/27/us-military-leaders-meeting-pete-hegseth

ICE arrests leader of Iowa’s largest school district, saying he was living and working in the US illegally
Roeder told The Associated Press that the district has seen “nothing that would suggest that he’s not a citizen.” The district said Friday afternoon that a third party was hired to conduct a comprehensive background check on Roberts and that Roberts completed an I-9, which requires workers to present documents showing that they were authorized to work. District officials also stated they had no knowledge of an order of removal issued in 2024.
https://apnews.com/article/iowa-des-moines-superintendent-ian-roberts-b52a9ea28d002d27832c67513403368e

Trump orders deployment of troops to Portland, ICE facilities
U.S. PresidentDonald Trump on Saturday said he was directing the U.S. military to deploy to Portland, Oregon and to protect federal immigration facilities against "domestic terrorists", saying he was authorizing them to use "full force, if necessary." Ordering the latest crackdown on a Democrat-led city, Trump said in a social media post that he was directing Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth "to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-orders-dePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Ukraine’s voiceless army: Ukrainian deserters speak out
While the mass desertion of personnel from the Ukrainian Armed Forces has already become one of the largest acts of civil disobedience in the country's history since 1991, there is almost complete silence about it in the foreign media. Since the end of last year, the number of criminal cases under Article 407 (unauthorized leaving of a military unit, or SZCh) and Article 408 (desertion) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine has remained stable at approximately 17,000 per month. In the first eight months of 2025, 142,711 criminal proceedings under these articles were registered, and a total of 265,843 cases have been registered in Ukraine since the beginning of the full-scale invasion as of September 1, 2025. To at least somewhat reduce this flow, the Ukrainian parliament on September 4 supported in the first reading Bill No. 13260, which reinstates criminal liability for SZCh, in the first reading. Previously, it was possible to avoid prosecution by voluntarily returning to military service. This provision was extended several times until it expired on August 30. Now, the bill proposes removing the court's ability to apply mitigating measures. In his September interview with Sky News, the supreme butcher stated that Ukraine no longer sends its military personnel for training abroad, where so many soldiers disappeared from training grounds and received protection.
https://libcom.org/article/ukraines-voiceless-army-ukrainian-deserters-speak-out

Brazil: “Anti-Terrorism” Bill Targets People’s Struggle
This week, the Brazilian lower house of Congress urgently approved Bill No. 1,283/2025, which amends the Anti-Terrorism Law to classify “factions” and “militias” as terrorists. A Nova Democracia (AND) explains that the real goal is to criminalize people’s struggle and especially aims to attack the Agrarian Revolution in the country, which has been growing for years. This bill amends the existing “Anti-Terrorism Law” from 2016, which was enacted at the time by Dilma Rousseff of the PT. AND spoke out about this law when it was enacted, explaining that all actions labeled as terrorism were “the ways in which just rebellion expressed itself in the youth protests of 2013-2014.”, and added that this law actually wasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2477676
It's pretty much the contrary as you ironically need a lot of structure and rules to avoid hierarchy and concentration of power

>>2497323

Also adding to it. Although you did not use terms "form" and "substance" but rather terms "leadership" and "kinds of powers", I interpreted it that way. So my further question is, do you really believe there is some separation of form and substance, kinds of leadership and kinds of powers?

one more anarcho-retard's strategy which will never leave this board and actually be practised

"Intellectuals should dedicate their lives to revolutionary action as professional revolutionaries and lead the working-class to class consciousness"

This is just Leninism

>>2497323
>You said that problem of many anarchists is that they only examine power and systems by its organisational form (monarchy, parliamentary democracy vs decentralized federation) but they should examine power by its substance. (What it can cause and force)
Yeah. Anarchists fixate too much on how something looks and on its constitutional layout (no king, no president, direct democracy) but overlook how political systems exercise power and the political rationality and mindset that goes with it.

Many anarchists look up to Rojava because of the system of libertarian muncipalism there. But this system uses the same techniques of governing and shares the same political rationality as any other state. This includes the use of codified law and policy to intervene in the social lives of citizens, shape their sexual habits, change their customs, remodel family structures, use schooling to teach them new values. And to make these measures work, you need surveillance and enforcement to ensure compliance. I saw a report on how a Western anarchist was working in Rojava, and part of her job was to do work with women. She'd go to homes and schools to teach girls about women's rights. This seems innocuous on the surface, but what she was doing was teaching local girls a new idea of femininity, the right way to be a modern woman, and how to separate it from bad behavior. She was also reporting back to her superiors on how well women were taking on these new ideas. This power to teach citizens who they are, to get them to accept new moral concepts of right and wrong, and to get them to think a certain way through institutions and government agencies meant to surveil and punish them is exactly the kind of disciplinary power of a state.

>how do you imagine such society?
That's sort of a trap. People have imagined ideal political systems since Plato, but Europeans only begun theorizing about this thing called 'society' in the 18th and 19th centuries. The growth of economics, sociology, psychiatry etc. went hand in hand with the growing power of the bourgeois state and capitalism. Its only then that you see people theorizing about 'society' and coming up with templates for how states and employers should manage and engineer it. So I'd say this kind of "what's the ideal model then?"Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2498013
communism brings the best possible scenario for an optimal love life: the total expulsion of strategic behaviour from love-seeking through the absence of scarcity and, therefore, the absence of a need to employ reproduction and love-desire for economic means, on the on hand; on the other, many factors, such as the absence of education scarcity, the erosion of the state, the family, private property, money… will bring about a fundamental change in our ego-complex, or "mentality", "personality"… the absence of social strife will radically increase communitarian behaviour and the basic social concept we operate with. i believe that the change would be so fundamental that we can hardly imagine it. i think the model would be a type of large scale communal reproductive and caretaking system such as that of some tribes studied in anthropology.

love would, because of this, cease to be economical, and therefore acquire the same structure as friendship: since both its necessitative character would be done away with scarcity and the family institution ("necessitative" as in, necessarily following the family structure in order to properly iterate society), and its superficial consumptive character done away with commodity form, scarcity, culture industry… its true essence as free appretiation of each other's beauty in a sexually or erotically expressable way would emerge, and we would engage each other erotically just as we now do in the realm of friendship, completely freely. i even believe that the line between friendship and eroticism would be greatly blurred, and that it would be all considered part of the same coninuum, or rather, spectrum, because it would not be linear (i.e. the more intensity, the closer to eroticism), but rather multidimensional (so that there could be intense friendship with weak eroticism and viceversa). Another way of putting it: the conditions of possibilty for rape and unrequited love would be abolished, since love would not be a necessity, but something that duly emerges spontanously between individuals. I think that this friendship spectrum already is the underlying logic of personal relations of mutual recognition, only that scarcity and the institutions built around it "contaminate" the spectrum harming its "free" functioning. and i put "free" in scare quotes because i dont mean freedom as in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2498068
>the conditions of possibilty for rape and unrequited love would be abolished, since love would not be a necessity,
Would conditions of possibility for murder and assault also be abolished? Rape is not an act of love by any means and is only tangentially related to it

>>2498017
theorically, the change would be so intense and counter intuitive that even urbanism would change, since houses are linked to the family. some kind of communal housing would probably develop, based around not bloodline but the personal life developement (an artistically inclined person would try to move into an artistically inclined community housing etc.). It is likely that the sheer concept of housing, city, countryside… in general, the whole conception of living spaces, would change, since the dichotomies between city and countryside, living space and working space, etc. would totally change, so i doubt that words like "housing" and "urbanism" would make sense, unless as etymological sediments.

>>2498074
in theory, yes, the conditions of possibility of murder would cease to be along with scarcity, or remain as a category for understanding stochastically disfunctional behaviour of people we today call "mentally ill", but it would be called murder only as an etymological sediment, since murder itself, as a concept or category intrinsecally and historically linked to the whole system of law, right, and therefore, with the maintenance of a social order by means of the monopoly over violence which the state necessarily has to employ; would cease to be along with class, scarcity, markets… The sheerconcept of absolute freedom of the will, that obscure and confuse concept (what Kant calls noumena-cause) would probably cease to make any sense to ordinary people, for exactly the same reason that the concept of Right also would, so people wouldnt intuitively percieve actions of other people the way we do now.

And rape has to do with love: it is a degenerated or disfunctional way of seeking recognition by another, inasmuch as the basic or abstract desire of love is sought after by means of turning the other into an obscure and confused image of a superficial object that can be consumed unilaterally, when, in reality (or "objectively", or, said in layman terms, outside the delusional mind of the rapist), that which is tried to be consumed can never actually be consumed, because it is a person, with a whole world inside it, with its own very complex activity that often times doesnt even exhaust with death. At best, what the rapist consumes in actuality is the abstract image (i.e., superficial concept of a woman that is sexually attractive in general under the local normative societal canon), only that not even that can be consumed, since the intense scarcity of recognition that lay at the foundation this extremely disfunctional behaviour als determines that drive so as to be impossible to satisfy through consumptive means, since it is impossible to earn recognition unilaterally from an object of consumption, but only from a person, community, oneself… i.e. from a properly percieved subject-subject relation in which both parties recognise themselves in an intentionally cooperative input.

>>2498120
rape is 90% about power