/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1254718
Richard Sorge

Are there still leftist spies left or do you think only money-seekers and moles are left?

Josip Broz Tito, of course. Why? Because he's based.

>>1256568
Almost certainly in the AES countries.
I would love to read a book about soviet, Chinese or north Vietnamese tradecraft and potential differences to west.
Independent spies for the movement would be based but probably highly unlikely if not theoretically impossible, just the incentive isn't there, even if we have part of a framework now, like wikileaks..

Also Nguyễn Thành Trung, a second generation communist from a family which had faced large repression, including a comando raid on his home as a young boy to kill his father. He sucsesfully hid the hatred for the murderers of his father and after his studies became a pilot, going on to america and learn the technical details of american hardware, becoming the best pilot in the program, when he got home he stole a plane to bomb the palace with before flying it back to real vietnam and teaching others how to fly non-soviet planes and leading in attacks.

>>1255838
I mean with the fact that zhao was allowed to rise as far as he did before tinammin square doesnt really paint a good picture of the system
but you do have a point that there were differences between the soviet anad chinese one

>>1255846
Lol my ass you disingenuous wrecker

>>1255821
not a sweatshop but world manufacturing center yes

>>1255806
Maybe, maybe.
Thankfully it didn't
weird seeing yt recommending nice videos like this one

>>1255821
Just because USA has to pay it's labor aristocracy relatively more than in other countries doesn't mean that China has it bad. USA will have to pay back it's debts, and it will result in a rather predictable turn to fascism - so that workers won't rebel when their quality of life gets eroded in order to lower production costs for American porkies in America. And guess goddamn what, "America's sweatshop" China has already started turning towards it's own consumer market instead of selling for dollar on the world market and buying for dollar from world market

>>1241665
For me its much easier to read and study at a library than home.

>>1241665
>am I doomed?
propably

Keep reading, and especially keep talking and keep engaging. Maybe join a leftist circle of some kind. Even being here on /leftypol/ can help, there are from time to time very good effortposts and back-and-forth which are like ghosts of the old internet. A bit like when you’re learning a new language and immerse yourself in that world even if you do not understand it well. I know it sounds like a cliche but still.

I never finished high school personally, and while Marxist writing was unintelligible to me for a time when younger, with time I started to understand and things started to click. Now I have more arcane books than I have time to read. I can never go back, the veil has been lifted. It is as Galileo said: “And yet it moves”.

>>1241665
>its really hard for me to read
just go and watch ur communist tiktok zoomer

>>1256260
no u

>>1256598
Funny you should say that, because…

NEW BREAD!
>>1256601
>>1256601
>>1256601

>>1256506
>>1256504
I'll say it again.
Fedjacketing should be a bannable offence.

>>1256604
Thank you baker.

>>1256606
It's a bannable offence, except when there are obvious reasons to be sus, but regular posters usually receive a small ban time (minutes to some hours)

>>1256496
there is no meaningful difference since US "war on terror" where all partisans (and any civilians in the bomb radius) became terrorists

>>1256221
>Haha, it's just, people I disagreed with agree with you, and since my worldview is evidently correct to myself I don't feel the need to justify it to anyone else
Seriously what separates you from something like a catholic other than Catholics not even bothering to cover their nonsense with a scientific or materialist veneer?

>>1256164
>Oh no, I’m not in a book club that occasionally attends protests, damn
<When gringo-larper hasn't done a single day of organizing and he thinks organizing is a book club.
>the global south this
>the global south that
Bitch, shut your mouth up, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. If you knew even a little bit the history of the global south leftist movements you'd be well aware of the meddling of America in our affairs. I am talking about leftists, as I explicitly said, you fucking retarded mong.
>>1256170
You don't know what you're talking about. You're simply completely ignorant about the subject matter.

STOP LECTURING OTHERS. START ASKING QUESTIONS
Dunning Kruger really did hit you hard.

>Iran does not need your help
YES IT DOES YOU STUPID FUCKING IMPERIALIST BOOTLICKER
Who the fuck do you think is behind most of the sanctions on Iran? YOUR COUNTRY'S GOVERNMENT
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>>1256253
Do you think education is when somebody like me unquestionably accepts your claims and the claims made by people whose perspective you agree with?
Are you genuinely so arrogant you think the only reason someone would disagree with your performance is because they lack enough knowledge to realize you are correct?

How can you be so arrogant when half your argument also rests on taking pride in being unable to actually ask questions and think for yourself? If you could do those things you would give a non-idpol soaked answer as to what makes your viewpoint and sources more legitimate, correct, or reliable. Because remember, you're also directly arguing against the number of non-white, non-western leftists that don't agree with your right opportunist perspective that you pretend don't exist

>No amount of words are useful against you
Of course not, sputtering out a textbook's worth of writing is meaningless if it requires me to already assume your viewpoint is correct and valid

>>1256265
Again, you're wrong in your analysis because American imperialism is actively attacking Iran and is actively promoting regime change. Again, the result of successful regime change is not wholesome big chungus anti-hijab socialist utopia. The result is a neoliberal gutting of the country and a rapid decline in quality of life for the average person.

So no, retarded imbecil. Your role isn't to agitate for regime change. Because that is counter productive to the people living there and also to the world. Your role, you retarded mongrel, is to, first and foremost, touch grass, second organize domestically, third agitate against international sanctions and intervention.

It is not your job to:
- assume what global South leftists believe
- lecture the global south
- agitate for regime change in Iran
- prescribe actions to Iranians (a region you have proven to be ridiculously ignorant about lol)

Further, your claim of Iran being imperialist, because it is a regional power is laughable. Imperialism rests on an analysis of geopolitical economics. Your absolute bastardization of such an analysis is completely divorced from the challenges these countries face and the political economic relations between them. As I stated before, your knowledge on the region is extremely poor, so abstain from making comments on the geopolitical economic relations of the area.

>>1256325
>You fool, America is attacking Iran, therefore YOU must support it!
Meaningless, practically moral posturing
The stakes for imperialist competition always have been and always will be exploitation if not death for the defeated, this is not a real reason for me, as a communist, to support or defend a capitalist theocracy
>- assume what global South leftists believe
That's what you're doing, in assuming they all have the same warped chauvinistic and opportunist view you have. You're literally assuming everyone in the GS automatically agrees with you or alternatively that anyone who doesn't can and should be disregarded.
>lecture the global south
Tankies on leftypol = the Global South?

Or do you mean I shouldn't disagree with someone if they're Iranian or generally from South of the equator? What if the individual is an anarchist and doesn't support any capitalist state you worship or any state at all? What if they're a religious fundamentalist and believe women shouldnt leave the house without Male supervision? What if they're a literal fascist that openly state they want to do what Hitler did but for their own people? How I decide which person from the Global South I blindly agree with when they have the same diversity of opinions as people from the Global North?
>agitate for regime change in Iran
You realize a communist or anarchist revolution would be a regime change by definition? Why would my primary priority, as a communist, be the continuity of the Iranian state?
>prescribe actions to Iranians (a region you have proven to be ridiculously ignorant about lol)
What are you yourself doing when you announce Iranians should simply be subservient and loyal to their government solely because it opposes America? Considering the huge protests going on if anyone is trying to police Iranian people it's probably you.

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