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how did fascists come out of the pro-war section of the italian socialist party? the argument for italy's entrance into ww1 seems to make sense from a socialist perspective, reads like most national liberation movements that come out now so how and why did they flip to such a reactionary degree ?
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>>2539489
I think this does a lot to explain a lot of the Japanese socialists-turned fascists. I always saw Inejiro Asanuma as a very confusing figure but now he seems very coherent.
Basically, pre-fascist Japanese Communists were not really amongst the proletariat, they were mostly intellectuals.
By the way one of the only Japanese works on marxists.org is a guy complaining about this and begging for more integration with the masses https://www.marxists.org/nihon/yamakawa/1922/00001.htm
These intellectuals, as that pdf depicts Takabatake, did not arrive at socialism from class-consciousness, or a desire for internationalism, but rather because they saw the impending catastrophe that capitalism was bringing to Japan and saw communist development as a way to secure the Japanese national project in the face of this incoming disaster.
Hence, Asanuma joins the Labor-Farmer Party, Takabatake translates all three volumes of Capital, etc etc.
But then, Japanese imperialism really ramps up in the 1930s. All of a sudden, the Japanese bourgeois politicians go from hapless in the face of the catastrophe, to worshipping the military and pushing for imperial conquest. It seems like the crisis of Japanese capitalism can be resolved without socialism after all, by subjugating Asia.
So, all of these socialists, who care first and foremost about the Japanese national project, decide that the imperial path to resolving the crisis is far more feasible than the socialist path, and decide to convert to the most enthusiastic supporters of imperial conquest. For example, Takabatake establishes the Kenkokukai and Asanuma leads the charge in expelling Saito Takao from the National Diet after he questions the war.
Then, Japan surrenders. The Imperial path becomes completely off the table, and Japan is occupied by the United States, which waves the threat of incorporating various islands as UN trust territories. So, being genuine nationalists (I don't use that as a positive, just as a differentiator from the LDP politicians), they decide that the most feasible way to create a secure Japanese national state is to completely backpedal, Asanuma becomes a leading voice in the Pacifist movement and in cooperating with the PRC and the rest of Asia. InternationalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2548306
>These intellectuals, as that pdf depicts Takabatake, did not arrive at socialism from class-consciousness, or a desire for internationalism, but rather because they saw the impending catastrophe that capitalism was bringing to Japan and saw communist development as a way to secure the Japanese national project in the face of this incoming disaster.

isnt this most succesful socialist revolutions? It seems nationalism and socialism ironically fit together the most

>>2548383
Yes, but if that's your only principle, it can also lead to siding with fascism if that seems a more feasible solution.




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BOLIVIA AFTERMATH THREAD
The ballots spoke, the centerright with Paz won.
The slogan
<Capitalism for all!
Evo is in his Kamehouse in the mountains saying
>Plepleplease don't change the constitution
Arce…he is just a painting in the Palace
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Evo, the man who's dick condemed the revolution

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GUESS WHO GOT OUT OF THE RETARD BOX??
<Bolivia’s former interim president Jeanine Áñez freed from prison after Supreme Court ruling
https://apnews.com/article/jeanine-anez-bolivia-prison-ca6625b53c6ebdab7c44f8809f73035d

>>2531200
so you dont know either, meaning you're useless

>>2528717
I think the real takeaway is that while reformist politics can do a lot to advance the position of workers and peasants in imperialized countries, it ultimately faces the exact same limitations as social democracy in the first world.

rip bolivian social democracy



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Dersh in the Fuhrerbunker Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

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https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>800+ POSTS

I've read bits and pieces about the NYC DSA being firmly in the grasp of the DSA right, here's to hoping that some people up there manage to either dislodge the right or create enough momentum outside of it to keep the city officials in line

>>2549889
When are we going to send the Indians to reeducation camps to make them abandon their reactionary faith? Just like what China is doing to the Islamic Uygurs?

>>2550541
We leave the berets for 2 people: sliwa and tom morrelo. If everyone wore berets, they wouldn't have the same aura

>>2550536
This whole Felix apologism is so retarded because anyone who does it completely ignores his absolute batshit takes detached from reality like "kill every burger" and shit



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Anti-imperialism has been shoehorned into leftist discourse just like useless idpol (not talking about the existence of gays) was in the 2010s. The great difficulty of developing class conciousness in service-economy liberal states is made even more complicated by rethoric pushed by feds that the workers in these states can't be socialist. This is used inside this states to prevent organization and outside these states to promote petite-nationalism.
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>>2552056
made up shit anon didn't say award.
try quoting what was actually said next time.

The USSR became imperialist in nature near its collapse (and agruable eariler).

While i understand what OP means, and I agree I wouldn't say feds are pushing this, proles in exploited countries are saying this, and they are right that westetn bourgesisie are profitting off of them, they neglect the fact the western proles are also exploited (although to a slightly lesser extent). I said this on another thread eariler but it is true and many maoists have this belief

>>2552059
India
Sudan
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Haiti
Romania
Democratic Republic of Congo
Cambodia
Indonesia
Thailand

>>2552515
>Afghanistan
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
>Romania
Service economies. DPRK and Afghanistan have literally the highest numbers of small markets in the world and Afghanistan is expanding into tourism and accommodation and other bs.

>the rest

Excluded by me initial post, since they're like the 10 out 100 third world countries where the service sector isn't dominant.

>>2552459
>The USSR became imperialist in nature
nah, it never was, it was always giving more than it received from its bloc



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My father gave me these things, or rather, I inherited them. He likes to discuss politics with me (he's an anarchist). What do you think, comrades?
He also gave me a rug with the anarchist cat on it and a Spanish Republican flag.

Those are rather nice anon. I collect communist and communist adjacent paraphernalia when I can get my hands on it. Here's a picture of some pins I got in berlin

>>2552363
beautiful



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What do you guys think of pan-germanism?
Is it good or bad and why? In general,do you think that pan-nationalism can be compatible with socialism?
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>>2548805
Weren't Marx and Engels (especially Engels) sort of Pan-Germanists as well?

>>2548805
>le horsefaced woman in robes as a representation of a country x1000
why are euroids so uncreative?

>>2549113
Based Hepp-Kexel-Group got it right

I'm against it because Germany is basically an entire nation of redditors

Nazi thread dni



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In February this year, a 23 year old man from Tierra del Fuego Argentina traveled to Russia following an internet ad about free college education for foreigners in Ekaterimburg(?) University. He wanted to travel and explore the world. When he arrived he was asked to sign papers he couldnt read and was sent to a training camp for 3 weeks and from there to Donetsk. He managed to contact his family and begged them to get him out. His father is pleading the Russian ambassador to let his son go home. According to the message recieved by his parents, he arrived to Ekaterimburg university with a group of foreign students, mostly brazilians and they were all tricked in the same way.

https://www.losandes.com.ar/sociedad/es-argentino-se-fue-estudiar-rusia-y-termino-error-la-guerra-ucrania-el-pedido-la-familia-n5968879

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>>2551641
Literally every Zigga here is honest about supporting Russia against Ukraine, typically as a means to an end.
That's not the case with the vast majority of the "anti-campists" and "true" leftists, who are not honest about the fact that they're actually supporting Ukraine against Russia. This is evident from at least two facts: (1) their commentary is completely lopsided against Russia to the point of never saying a harsh word about Ukraine; (2) their activity in /ukr/ is disproportionately centered about moments of high-grade Ukro hopium, whereas a genuine anti-campist with no dog in the race would have more uniform temporal behavior, posting during both moments of Ukro hopium and Ukro doom, for the simple reason that such moments don't motivate his or her ideological stance.

>>2552266 (me)
…oh, and (3): some of them don't even bother to change their /uhg/ filenames.

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Red Apple edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth

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📺 Facts™ 📺
(sponsored by Eagle Burger Freedom Institute)
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>>2551117
she makes me think of carrie in homeland

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>>2551701
It's very funny that elected officials are crashing out like this publicly on social media over nothing. Oh no the new AG of Virginia was mean in private text messages lmao.

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Soon

>>2551701
DARK WOKE IS BACK AND I THINK ITS FUNNY



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Colombia releases US drone strike survivor, claiming no evidence links him to drug trafficking
The prosecution opened a preliminary investigation into Obando’s alleged involvement in drug trafficking, but was forced to drop this because “until now, they didn’t find any evidence or testimony that could indicate that this person committed a crime on national territory,” a prosecution source told El Pais. If the former suspect was involved in criminal activity, as claimed by the US Government, the prosecutors received no evidence of this.
https://colombiareports.com/colombia-releases-us-drone-strike-survivor-claiming-no-evidence-links-him-to-drug-trafficking/

Exxon funded thinktanks to spread climate denial in Latin America, documents reveal
Exxon funded rightwing thinktanks to spread climate change denial across Latin America, according to hundreds of previously unpublished documents that reveal a coordinated campaign to make the global south “less inclined” to support the UN-led climate treaty process.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/03/exxon-funded-thinktanks-to-spread-climate-denial-in-latin-america-documents-reveal

Bolivian top court annuls former interim president sentence and orders her immediate release
Court President Romer Saucedo told the media on Wednesday that the sentence was annulled based on “several arguments” and the vote of seven of the nine justices. Saucedo explained that the decision was based on finding “violations” of due process during Áñez’s trial through ordinary legal channels. Áñez was convicted for her role in assuming the presidency in a controversial National Assembly session following the deadly 2019 protests that led to the resignation of then-president Evo Morales (2006-2019).
https://apnews.com/article/bolivia-anez-supreme-court-sentence-401a5c1f8e13f9a86f6b4a02deb6b13d

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YouTube Removed Hundreds of Videos of Israeli Human Rights Violations to Comply With Trump Sanctions
In compliance with a Trump administration effort to punish critics of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, YouTube has deleted the accounts of three prominent Palestinian rights groups, wiping several hundred videos documenting Israeli human rights violations in the process.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/youtube-deletes-videos-israel

US Starbucks workers prepare to strike if contract is not finalized by next week
Unionized Starbucks baristas voted to authorize an open-ended strike ahead of Starbucks’s high-traffic holiday season, announced Starbucks Workers United on Wednesday. The union said workers are prepared to strike if a contract is not finalized by 13 November, which is the company’s Red Cup Day, and strike actions could hit more than 25 cities and escalate if there is a lack of progress.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/nov/05/starbucks-baristas-union-strike-contract

FAA to cut flights by 10% at 40 major airports due to government shutdown
The closure has also raised concerns about already thin staffing among air traffic controllers, the FAA said. Insufficient staffing at some FAA facilities has disrupted some flights since Oct. 1. Earlier this week, Duffy told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that he could “shut the whole airspace down” if the shutdown drags on.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/05/faa-cuts-flight-capacity-shutdown.html

Chicago day care worker detained by immigration agents at drop-off time for children
The employee ran from a vehicle into the Rayito de Sol Spanish Immersion Early Learning Center after officers pulled into the parking lot right after her, Alderman Matt Martin said, citing witness accounts. The employee was detained at the entry while telling authorities she has papers, he said. Authorities went inside to question several people around 7 a.m., when the facility opened, according to witnesses.
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Tuesday’s Election Result Is a Rebuke of Trump More than an Enthusiastic Embrace of Democrats
The election results in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York have put wind in the sails of a Democratic Party that has been on the defensive since Trump’s re-election. For the more moderate Democratic Party pundits and politicians, the victories confirm their belief that a populist, anti-woke platform is the way to go. Spanberger opened her victory speech with the assertion that her campaign “sent a message to our neighbors and across the country…and the whole world, that in 2025 Virginia chose pragmatism over partisanship.” Sherrill, for her part, centered her acceptance speech on “prosperity,” tying appeals to America’s “democratic” tradition to people’s need for economic security. She added that the election shows that “we’re not going to give into our darker impulses,” without naming the transphobic, racist, and anti-immigrant vitriol which defined much of her Republican opponent’s campaign and Trump’s politics. Democratic Representative and House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, who two days ago told CNN anchor Jake Tapper that the future of the Democratic wasn’t Zohran Mamdani, but the House Democratic caucus, said on Tuesday night that Democrats “won all over the country talking about the affordability crisis.” An ABC News article confirms that the races in Virginia and New Jersey centered on the issue of affordability, but the discourse about how to resolve it is much different in these states than in New York.
https://www.leftvoice.org/tuesdays-election-result-is-a-rebuke-of-trump-more-than-an-enthusiastic-embrace-of-democrats/

Italian Fascists’ Love Affair With Israel Started Long Before Giorgia Meloni
Few nations have such a disconnect between the public and the state when it comes to Palestine as Italy. The Italian government is one of just three – the others are Germany and the United States – that have continued to supply major conventional weapons to Israel since 2020. Alongside attack helicopters, naval guns and parts for Israel’s F-35 fighter jets, Italy’s prime minister Giorgia Meloni has continued to provide diplomatic cover to her Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu, refusing to take even the symbolic step ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Colombia releases US drone strike survivor, claiming no evidence links him to drug trafficking
Casually repeating imperialist framing.

Fuck you, bad news anon! You suck!

ᴉuᴉlossnW hangs



 

How come everywhere I look, Pissrael has its genocidal hands in every country experiencing trouble?

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/10/30/757871/RSF-militants-committing-genocide-in-Sudan-s-El-Fasher-with-UAE%2C-Israel-backing--Analyst
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Lmao kek @ all these anartoddlers ITT denouncing the anti-imperialist multipolarista RSF in their fight against the westoid zionist Soros lumpen NGO fodder (Darfuri women and children)
Sorry sweeties but accepting weapons and funds from racist slave owning pedo sheikhs and killing everyone at your local hospital is a necessary evil. If you radlibs actually read a fucking book (including Lenin's National Socialism - the Highest Stage of Communism) for once you'd understand.

If you disagree with wiping out the reactionary races maybe you should get back to >>>/reddit/ or stick with hanging out with your smelly polycule at your anarchist bookclub lol
Pics related: Actual Socialists (as opposed to bipoc demifurry lgbtqueef trnny social studies professors lul)

>>2546093
why do you complain about complaining if it doesn't stop the complaining, hypocrite?
because you're a seething zionist trying to shut down discussion by sowing demoralization and pretending communication of a problem isn't the first step of addressing a problem

>>2551415
your satire isn't funny, try saying what you actually think.

>>2551433
Dunno mate, maybe some of us are sick of the retarded ass "color revolution" spiel and calls for "c-c-critical support!" for every neolib comprador ghoul out there. Mao anon was right. There's people trying to "acktually" the RSF.
Past few months have also seen posters here denounce Serb and Malagasy "zoomers" for protesting against their pro-zionist IMF backed comprador leaders (muh color revolution!!). Even had a few trying to paint fucking Duterte as a kind of quasi-socialist "based" anti-imperialist multipolarista.

Anyway, you wanna know my position? I wish <someone> would do something about this. If I wasn't a poorfag and had some money to spare I'd donate it to whoever is fighting these freaks. Don't even care if it's NATO intervening at this point. The vids going around on Telegram are nauseating. Even worse than the Gaza/Ukraine stuff.

>>2548571
Or maybe you're just an ultroid retard



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