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It feels like every single god dambed right wing idiot on this planet is completely incapable of doing something as simple as reading a fucking book or discussing politics outside of id/pol/ faggotry… I just want to hear nonleftists ideas that dont completely revolve around minorities or non Germanic Europeans pledging allegiance to their grand masters without understanding that they would've been genocided under that assholes policies yet it feels like all of them either worship capitalism and authoritarian governments until they get affected and vilify minorities for existing even when they don't affect their lives…
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Of course they exist. They just don't believe the schlock they are feeding to other people.


Maybe Alain de Benoist, but that's about it


They definitely are but they create their own reality and expand upon that. Like a flat earther that knows every city in the world but is fundamentally wrong about fundamentals


People like Jared Taylor but they dont get funding.

Go back to your imageboard ttg uyghur


I mean, I didn't say they were INTELLIGENT and educated, I took OP's question to mean right wingers who are beyond the average /pol/ screecher. Not a very high bar.

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It may be dumb to discuss it because there isnt a global future and in some places civilization will retreat and in others it will grow. But what are some criticisms of civilization by anarchists or marxists? Is anti-civilization compatible with socialism? It anti-civilization the end point of communism?
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Communism will invariably be anti/post-civ imo


But does civilization mean class society?


Civilis means politics whihc means class so yess


So one of my questions would be, it's anti-civ industrialism possible? I don't mean if it is good or bad, but if it is possible.


Anticivs that dont accept even the most democratized and decentralized forms of "civilization" for its utility in voluntary and sustainable production don't exist in real world…. outside the undercovers and inwitting plants they brainwash over socialmedia.

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considering the defeat of the populist right, I've been seeing that desantis is the new meme candidate alongside tucker carlson. I already see that a lot of the memelords are abandoning trump and jumping over to desantis and shit. I think that the right-wing will have a revival as it seems as if the general desires for conformity and for shit to not change is still within the proles minds. That and Biden has already made it clear that he will work with the corpos here to destabilize the south america. How do you deal with the fact that it seems as if we fought hard but only minorly inconvenienced the right as a whole?
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What defeat?


Also another thing I've thought up but do you think there was a right-wing blitz attack against the left or what? I think the ban of all the commie parties in the EU as well as the increased spam here and other places with general social conservatism and shit seems to be kind of suspicious to me.


LOOOOOL the attempts to astroturf support for Ron Deepstatis have failed


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I imagine some groups are trying to meme DeSantis as the Trump-lite who is safe and won't rock the boat too much, but when polls include Trump 2024 he just completely crushes everyone again.


If Trump runs he is guaranteed to get the nomination. That idea that he would face a serious Republican challenger is ridiculous, the base is still overwhelmingly behind Trump. Whether he won the general would depend on just how incompetent the Democrats are. They are currently rolling over and letting the GOP suppress the vote across the country, which could have a massive effect.
If he doesn't run then it will be another 2016-like clusterfuck where there's like a hundred candidates running and none of them can get a solid majority. In that scenario someone like Tucker Carlson would have an advantage, but I don't know if he would actually run. He's a weasel who is already in a very comfortable position. He would be a king-maker though.
I don't see DeSantis going anywhere. Too old hat. Trump simultaneously had celebrity name recognition and was perceived as an outsider, which you would think is a contradiction but lol America.

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Is it true that opression/authority always breeds resistance?
Or does it just make it less likely and smothers it?
Ehat did Foucault mean by this and was he fundamentally wrong? Can someone explain this concept to a brainlet? This seems to be an observable phenomenon on a miniature scale (strict parents usually end up raising rebellious kids later) but this is of course a bullshit example and I'm not sure how it applies to larger societies. Is it in human nature to spite the status-quo?
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Do the secularists not do anything? I heard that during the 70s and 80s North Yemen sponsored leftwing groups that infiltrated through the Saudi border and carried out attacks


It is not always true, but it becomes true because authorities tend to be pigheaded and their social orders are only enforced through threats and deprivation. A judicious use of force can mitigate resistance greatly. We happen to live in a society where "judicious use of force" is about grinding the whole mass of the population with an insidious mental assault to modify behavior. Therefore, for us, the creation of resistance and struggle is entirely the point, beyond any reason why you would do this. A eugenicist society in practice is a viper's nest of repeated backstabbing, barely controlled except for the function of eugenic institutions which become all-consuming. Even with chattel slavery, there was a logic to the system which made some sense to those who maintained it. Eugenics, for all its bluster, has produced nothing but failure. Its supposed best and brightest become vapid, obsessive fools in short order.

It is still the case though that people are individuals. No system of oppression can entirely forget this. Slavery broke in slaves in various ways, and serfdom entailed ritual humiliations against the peasantry. Capitalism of course revels in individual initiative and property rights. Eugenics sets out to transform the individual into a mass of nerves and impulses that is pushed like a machine, twisting thought itself into this horrid construction. A feverish effort to deny the individual is doomed to failure, but every slavery is contingent on such dehumanization and appropriation of people.


IMO he should have been writing about cybernetics instead of looking nostalgically at militant struggles from the past and trying to project them into the present. "Power" found something better than confrontation, discipline, normalization, etc. It has instead coopted opposition and started feeding on it.
It's not a coincidence that there was a lot of leftist terrorism at his time. After failed may 68 all these militants were desperate as fuck because time for another uprising was running out when consumerism and mass media was turning people into passive masses. (Bombings by RAF were explicitly an attempt to wake people up from this, they also targeted shops for that reason.) That's not really power in Foucault's sense anymore, it's a system that integrates and manages.
And may 68 itself has inadvertently led to that. The response to it was to let people do whatever, no need for "discipline and punishment" anymore, we can sell them Marx shirts instead, feed on their little resistance to make the system run better. It's not just traditional liberalism, but a further development of that liberalism into a total integrated system. In his time even society started to be run literally by computer systems and feedback loops that incorporate everything into its calculations.


But isn't his exactly what Foucault talks about? The shift from traditional sovereignty to biopolitics? Or in Deleuze's terms: the shift from disciplinary societies to societies of control?


If it didn't then there would be no need for power

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I see that the anti communist wave has come. Are you prepared? From Germany to Cuba it seems as if the porkies are kind of paranoid aren't they? This feels like a blizkrieg.
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Aren't most "normies" just politically
apathetic because there aren't any major parties that represent them?


Sometimes the bourgeoisie are not class conscious either.


There are a lot of people in the U.S. who are just disillusioned with politics, don't trust politicians, and don't trust the government. Some polls on this show "trust in government" as the lowest since the post-Vietnam War era.


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We are getting a few astroturfers here among the usual raiders tourists, if you think we have it bad look at r/stupidpol.


The mods approved a thread , under the grill pill summer rule, to discuss the happening and it tripped the astroturf keywords. It's gotten flooded with un-flaired, non-stupidpol posting propagandists, which frankly sound like bots.

The mods will clean up in time but take a look, these are the dangers of their platform of choice. Here they stick out like a sore thumb as they do on the r/worldnews main thread. But think of all the menial chit chat where one of these topics may be mentioned , where the bots will slowly but steadily insert their narrative and posters will pass it off as anecdote.


just have good takes and good material analysis, and they will eventually associates tankies with smart and lucid people

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I often see Lukashenka's sympathizers among the Western left. Why is that?
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>Website is littered with glowie shit

Why are anachists retarded?


>Oh no an irrelevant party on the other side of the world said some stuff nobody cares about– looks like we should support the CIA in its efforts to rape every free nation on Earth

Fucking kys.


>everyone I don't like is an anarchist (bad)


anon, im not the anarkiddie. i just googled lukashenko praise hitler and thats what came out.
should have said it earlier.

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Communist presidential candidate in Chile receives more support
The opposition party Social Green Regionalist Federation (FRVS) is currently one of the forces that back communist candidate Daniel Jadue for the first of Chile's presidential election, scheduled for November. This decision, announced on Wednesday, was made by this party's extended council with the participation of the teams from the 16 regions of the country where the FRVS is present.

Haitian Police Shoot Down 4 Suspects and Arrest 2 Attackers
In the early hours of Wednesday morning, the assassins entered Moise's residence in Pelerin, a high-class neighborhood located on a hill in the highest part of Port-au-Prince. During the attack, the President was shot and killed and his wife was wounded. She was later flown by ambulance to Miami. Their two children, a boy and a girl, were taken to safety.

Medellin gangs have as many members as ELN in all Colombia
Despite being involved in extortion, money laundering and drug dealing, the super groups that are part of the “Oficina de Envigado” have enjoyed long-standing ties with the local elite and the Medellin Police Department.

Polish YouTuber to file claim after his detention under draconian anti-communist legislation
POLISH YouTuber Michal Nowicki was detained under draconian anti-communist legislation for promoting “totalitarian practices and methods of action” on Wednesday. Authorities swooped as he left his mother’s house to go jogging. He claimed they chose a spot between two bushes so there were no wiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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What is happening and what is this mentally ill faggot saying?


a "uyghur", "communist" and a "fascist" are apparently trying to kill him. not sure if it's all the same person though. they are threatening him with the mafia.


nice meme. not an uyghur but a n1663r


Go back

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Despite the constant wars, blatant human rights abuses and environmental devastation the human species has observed to inflict onto itself regularly since its discovery of agriculture I beg the question will their ever be a real point where humanity consumes so many of the earth's resources that their will be a war so maniacally devastating to the planet that real recovery back into a stable healthy society becomes impossible?


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Maniacal devastation is the prerequisite for a stable healthy society becoming possible


impossible. mennonites exist and they will always exist. people will learn from them if the need arises.

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This is the thread to bully a rich nerd

Basically a Elon musk hate thread.
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oh no no no redditbros how will we recover?


All companies are run like banks now.






Musk is currently testifying in a lawsuit about Tesla’s acquisition of Solar City. The plaintiff is a Tesla investor or group of investors (not sure?) who have been pursuing a lawsuit against Musk that alleges he used Tesla money to bail out Solar City out of personal interest. What are the consequences of losing this case, slap on the wrist?

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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Marxism. The theory is extremely complex, and without a solid grasp of Hegelian dialectics most of the theory will go over a typical reader's head. There's also Marx's scientific outlook, which is deftly woven into his work - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Pierre-Joseph Proudhon literature, for instance. Marxists understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this theory, to realize that they're not just accurate- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Marxism truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the profundity in Marx's dialectical catchphrase "Gommunism is when no iPhone," which itself is a cryptic reference to Prager's American epic "Vuvuzela gulag 100 million dead" I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Karl Marx's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Marx and Engels tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.


I see no lies


NoThİnG iS fOr HiGh-Iq aNd YoU cAn'T cLaİm AnYtHiNg To Be HiGh İq


I see no lies


I mean, that's why the concept of the vanguard exists.

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