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are computer touchers considered proletarian? if so, why do they seem to lean libertarian and meritocratic, and work against their own class interests for capitalist aspirations? e.g. taking anti-union positions because it may "hamper innovation" or their rockstar 10x engineer persona.

Also when will AI finally break programmer chuds (inshallah)
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>>30246
>we are clearly
no you are not clear at all
>substantially valorizable property
oh so like productive property?

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>>30242
>>30247
>join communist discussion
<erm property is not capital
is this faggot really gonna do that "private vs public property" libtard debate?

fuck me this bullshit reminds me of retards asking me if a couch makes one petit bourgeois because they think theyre one of the things communists refer to when talking about reserves and this is when i know theres just no saving leftists

either people are lying about reading marx or theyre so bafflingly retarded they dont really understand what they read. the whole point of the proletariat is that theyre revolutionary and distinguished as a class because of their severance from property or reserves that can be capitalized

also i just noticed this shit thread is on /tech/ for some reason. no wonder the replies are specially stupid

>this thread
How can your weal and woe depend solely on the sale of your commodified abstract labour thus giving you impetus to struggle against bourgeois society if you're well off?

>inb4 if you quit or get fired you aren't well off anymore

Proletarians aren't well off even when they sell their labour. They don't have any privilege accrued from bourgeois society. These people y'all are speaking of struggle to maintain their privilege in society. Proletarians on the other hand struggle to survive.

im not even really disagreeing with you at all your just being mega autistic

unemployed/perpetual college student/tenured academic aka people with guaranteed source of income's thread.



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Is there a leftypol compatible equivalent of 4chan X? really miss this browser extension's features https://www.4chan-x.net/ I figure its possible cause this site seems to be made with the same stuff

I mainly used the thread bookmarking and (you) desktop notification features

>>30226
What did it add?

>>30228
whenever you posted in a thread its automatically bookmarked into a list within 4chan UI. when you click on a thread you previously typed in you get notifications for every direct response you got there. New sorting methods were added to the catalog like posts per minute. You could start a new thread directly from a thread. There are loads of other things and settings I haven't really used.

>>30229
oh yeah it also made updating threads real time, like if somebody comments on a thread you're looking at it just updates automatically. Also when you open a thread after a while it automatically takes you to your last comment



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Microsoft is the CIA. Pretty much all US big tech is. Windows is a global CIA mass surveillance program via monopoly capitalism. It’s completely impossible to make Windows secure, there’s no secret registry switch. The entire thing is compromised top to bottom, and under no circumstances should anyone consent to its use. Closed source spyware monopolies are a weapon of war against us by the bourgeois state.

Open source operating systems are software communism. If we’re not willing to build and use existing forms of technological sovereignty and anti-capitalism, then we’re probably not willing to do any other forms of communism either. I hate the “No ethical consumption under capitalism” mantra. How do we expect to get out of capitalism without building alternatives? I think a lot of leftists hope a revolution will happen then just magically replace all the corrupt and bourgeois components of consumerism, using the same uninvolved passive mechanisms.

Do we really believe a windows update will just drop after some election that restores our rights, trust, openness, privacy and dignity? It must be built and owned by the people.

I've been reading alot about open access lately and the push that existed in the early days of the internet and how close it was tied to open-source software.

Unfortunately the monopolization of internet and there of the data collected via the internet is status quo in capitalism. Challenging the standards by providing open access, flips this monopolization onto its head.

The problem comes when others build proprietary software that cannot be or exist on "open" software. For arbitrary reasons. I don't belive that windows will one day become open, or provide open access, but one day open access resources will be on the same level of windows to provide legitimate competition outside of hobbyist.

>>30211
Are you keeping any cool minecraft tnt grief plans on your pc?

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And specifically we should focus on breaking network effect. Stuff like steam's proton, federated social media, and even in-browser bookmarks and linktree-type sites and neocities cut away at the bars that keep people using proprietary stuff.

More of that and less preaching stallmanite asceticism. Key technologies like that make the difference between FOSS being the "alternative" vs FOSS being the primary and obvious option by which proprietary implementations are simply toys to inspire further FOSS development.

>>30217
>steam

>>30223
It's weird because while steam itself is proprietary, it neatly eliminates the biggest reason why normies don't adopt open-source systems: gayming. The cumulative effect of increasing the userbase is still a net positive overall.



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Suckless seems like a great way to transition from rice to programming.
A good set of training-wheels for the bicycle of the mind.
However there's something extremely pathological about not wanting well designed and implemented features.
It's like cachexia from voluntarily avoiding healthy fats.

This isn't to advocate feature creep, which is ugly and doesn't add to the design of the system.
In rejecting big systemic components which integrate they may even make things more complex.
This is something like having a small standard library, avoiding RPC, or even loose coupling of components.
Implementing these can reduce duplication, and reduce complexity, while allowing more to be achieved.

Everywhere the minimalist takes something rich and make it small.
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Minimalism is good if it doesn’t go too far. The primary reason why programs are even made in the first place is that they are supposed to be useful. Minimalism is good if it means modularity and lower system resource usage. The st terminal is good example of this because it does what it's supposed to do and it does it well. In theory, it can even avoid some future exploits because terminal escape codes are kind scary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T2Al3jdY38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4A7KMQEmfo

<flame>

It's also known that larger codebase means that's there is higher probability of bugs and it's much harder to even audit or understand large codebases. Just look at Systemd. It does a bunch of unrelated shit, such as…
>sudo (run0)
>logs (why not just use existing logger programs?)
>acpi (why not just acpid?)
>bootloader (why it does have to be a part of a init and process supervisor?)
>DNS and resolved? (why it's not standalone?)
>and more.
Source: systemd documentation and https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/

Also, it's kinda funny that in Debian, poweroff command is prohibited but you can use systemctl poweroff as a regular user. I want to also point out that the attempted xz-utils backdoor also required a custom downstream patch to OpenSSH that enabled integration with systemd-notify: https://gist.github.com/thesamesam/223949d5a074ebc3dce9ee78baad9e27
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>>30162
> It leads into a lot of the discussion revolving around treating “bloat” like it’s a tax on computer recourses to fund DEI hiring
lol you're not using a metaphor, spreadsheet derangement is real. Literally the same Silicon Valley neoliberal ideology being pushed at DOGE:
<Linux users: "I want my computer to be at 1% usage at all times, its disgusting to imagine me spending my resources on anything I want to do!"
<Musk: "its horrible to imagine Congress spending money on pork, its disgusting to imagine my resources being wasted on anything that working class people want to do!"

>>30197
>>30198
Tbh I don’t really get the idea of minimalism = low system resources, because since day one of electronic computers existing there has been a desire to provide a virtual machine to act as a more user friendly abstraction to what the actual hardware is doing, even if you’re writing a whole program in modern x86-64 assembly, the instructions aren’t exactly 1-to-1 representations of what the underlying hardware does and can do with the instructions being represented by microcode and often encapsulating multiple cycles to achieve whatever the instruction does.

Interpreted languages are also as old as compiled languages even despite the extremely tight resources computers had at the time, many domain specific languages rose during the mid-20th century to further provide a simpler and quicker way to get things done on a computer.

Despite a lot of the simping for the old school within computer science and their wizardry for making software with a binary of bytes running on machines with mere kilobytes of memory, it seems like those figures in the field were always trying to make computers as abstracted as technically possible and while the optimisation they achieved in working towards that goal is incredible, focusing on that in the belief that was the minimalism that was sought feels rather like missing the forest for the trees.

>>30197
> Just look at Systemd. It does a bunch of unrelated shit
Systemd is a deamon suite. No single programm does all of the above.
You may just as well argue that "linux" is a bloated OS because you collect the entire system a single giant unit.
> Runit
I use Void Linux for my server and runit made me miss systemd unironically. It's absolutely terrible, but I don''t have the time and energy to migrate to Oracle Linux (I need btrfs).
> S6
Tried it once for use in containers. Not a fan of it from what I've seen.

>>30220
>You may just as well argue that "linux" is a bloated OS because you collect the entire system a single giant unit.
A microkernel is certainly more suckless/minimal than a monolithic kernel.



 

why the FUCK is javascript a vibes based language?

<[] + {};

>returns '[object object]'
<{}+[];
>returns 0
<[]+[];
>returns ' '
<0 == [];
>returns true
<0=="0";
>returns true
<"0"==[];
>returns false
<2+"2";
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Why the fuck is js everywhere? It should've stayed within the browser and even then should've been killed for something better ages ago.

>>30209
Because pretending like 12 year old scriptkiddies are competitive labour drives down salaries for coders

>>30208
Dynamic typing does not necessarily mean idiosyncratic type coercions. Just look at Scheme, from which JavaScript probably inherited dynamic typing.

Brenden Eich is the modern Yakub / Openheimer. Invented JavaScript in a single week and everything since is the nuclear winter of that. Everything he's done since is in the persuit of releasing an equal or greater plague upon the world.

>>30202
it was designed for some shitty "magic" on what were basically text documents (hypertext) and people thought that since it is easy to use it will destroy the need to hire coders because anyone can use it and so they built a whole bunch of shitty tools with it.
same reason why VB was so popular for a time and why drag-and-drop ASP.NET mess was hot shit until ruby on fails came along that promised to make your shitty "webapp" in 10 mins (5 min blog tutorial), etc.

JS is the same thing from 1995 that AI hype is today.



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What is the materialist explanation for chuddy alt-tech FOSS nerds like Luke Smith and Bryan Lunduke? Many lolberts and rightoids seem to think that loonix and open-source software is some privacy-protecting alternative to woke big-tech surveillance and censorship. I used to think like this but now I realize how wrong I was.
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>>30056
If you have any kind of formal employment, financial or medical history, it's pointless to consider the privacy benefits open-source software. Unless, the activities you're trying to hide are done exclusively on an encrypted p2p network, but that too could bite you in the ass someday.

>>30052
>>30057
Lay down the serious hat for a bit.

>>30050
>>30062
Lunduke has been covered for being a petit bourgeois piece of shit already, see: >>28088

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No idea about the other guy, but I think Luke Smith is actually on a trajectory to de-chuddify. The barrier is his viewership/fanbase.

OP I'm confused as shit too, he constantly rails about the negative consequences of profit-motivated design, but then simultaneously he stinks of lolbertism. I can only conclude he experiences a lot of dissonance

>>30050
Luke is a terminal contrarian who repeatedly overcorrects. I don't have a materialist critique of him.
> DEI is bad so thus catholicism must be good. > Consumerism is bad so all corporate jobs are horrible
Etc.
>>30119
I was in a similar situation as Luke and I ended up as a leftist because I realized leftist ideologies are the ones who actually want to reward hard work and bettering your community. Right wing ideologies only do this incidentally.

>>30062
>A lot see themselves as cool digital gangsters, as if pirates were historically criminals for crimes sake instead of radically democratic compared to the empires of their day.
Pirates were a kind of proletarian dictatorship…but lets just say most of them were gross Johnny Depp guys and not based lesbian pirate queens!
These PMC redditors are pirates in the sense of being downwardly-mobile petite bourgeois who emerge during a crisis in capitalism and instead of being low paid servants of the ruling class, choose to be thuggish parasites who steal the fruits from farm and factory laborers. Same thing as happened during the rise and fall of the British empire



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So, I'm a musician, who wants to have a musical career (a lot of communist musicians had stable careers) and meanwhile stupid porkies tell me that "no, we'd prefer if you were replaced, prole, because there if no place for people like you" and I hear, not only music, but other art, computer science, programming etc. will be replaced by AI. How do we stop this, so people are still prosperous in the real socialst societies?
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>>30181
>>30182
It's even more retarded, it's not only calling it gambling, but a gambling addiction.

>>30181
>>30185
this shit about "social networks are like slot machines" is extremely overstated. it's not completely off-the-mark, because it's true that it's somewhat like a video game skinner box, but people don't become physiologically dependent on refreshing xitter or prompting chatGPT, and in most cases, it takes the slightest friction between the user and the UX to completely destroy the habit, which is what begs the question: how many regular users of jippity would stick to jippity of it removes the free tier.

>>30189
>social networks are like slot machines
no, they are not. not everything is predatory and victimizing and completely out of your hands.

people like this stuff, they willingly opt-in and will call you a nerd or something when you tell them it's not a good idea, then when it goes predictably, they whine about privacy and evil corps or whatever else.

this situation is not some corp-engineered thing, people actively helped the corps in bringing it about.

>>30194
>no, they are not. not everything is predatory and victimizing and completely out of your hands.
quote me on wherever the fuck you feel i implied this. i just said that refreshing xitter feeds, prompting genAI fishing for adequate results, etc, is a bit like a skinnerbox, that's it. further i said that habit formation relies almost completely on the UX being as frictionless as possible, because, and i hoped this implication was better understood, the enjoyment you get out of them is limited. the fuck is wrong with your debate addict brain.

>this situation is not some corp-engineered thing

<UX
<not corp-engineered
lmfao jobless buffoon.

>>30194
>everything is predatory and victimizing and completely out of your hands
I think that view of yours on display here is too doom and gloom.



 

<Exposure to AI output immediately damages your brain's cognitive abilities
>9/10th's or more of 4chan, reddit and twitter activity is GPT-J bots
>Most video platforms curate suggestions using AI
>Search engines place AI output at top of results
>several platforms implement AI summaries
>Language translation programs being replaced with AI
>Browsers and closed source operating systems integrating AI features into UX
>Schools using AI to mark unusual vocabulary as suspect of being AI generated, advantaging students with average or below literacy.

I know the AI bubble is crashing so this won't continue to be a problem in 5 years, but it is worrying that we don't know how long this brain damage lasts.
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Apparently being critical of artificial intelligence is good for you.

Artists are going to pretend this is about AI art and not clearly text parsers.

There's brain scans now:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

i just dont believe that deterioration is permanent and also why should we be alarmed that mind-numbing office work is mind-numbing

>>27265
patient zero



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Thread for watching rocket launches and shit.
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Not really /tech/ but still /space/.
Lunar eclipse happens tonight, will be visible in the Americas.

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Yet another giant leap on the road to the Moon and Mars. The Chinese will never catch up now!

I might be stupid but I still don't understand what problem starship (or even falcon9) is trying to solve

>>30027
Isn't the purpose to soak up government gibs while maximizing profit (offering a cheaper service and doing things no one else can) and inspiring-following a vision of futurism. If the vision of the future were different you'd probably get it.

Another day, another stunning SpaceX success…



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Darknet markets are as close as it gets to a free market, where you can order drugs and have it delivered to you by mail. The purpose of this thread is to discuss opsec, ask for help and discuss markets in general. This thread should be fully legal as long as you don't solicit or facilitate illegal transactions, meaning:

&ltDon't beg to buy from someone
&ltDon't attempt to sell to anyone here
&ltDon't link to dealer Instagram/Reddit/Snapchat accounts. These accounts are run by either scammers or feds.
&ltDon't directly link to any market. These links could be fake scam/fed markets, designed to phish your login details and steal your cryptocurrency. Only use https://dark.fail/

The following is my personal recommendation for good opsec while conducting business, however, you must [b]read the darknet market bible[/b] (.pdf attached) after you are done with this post. If you don't read theory, it's likely you will be caught and convicted.

>Will I be 100% safe?

In theory, no. The darknet market bible, together with this thread, is meant to minimize the risk of getting caught as much as possible. If you follow the exact procedure outlined in the bible, you should be okay, especially as a small-time buyer.

Tails
Tails is an Linux-based operating system that runs entirely on your RAM and is wiped when PC is powered off. If the cops intercept your item, conduct a controlled delivery and seize your machine, they will not be able to find evidence linking you to the package and you can deny involvement via a lawyer.
You will want to install the Tails operating system to a USB flash drive with at least 8GB of storage. Personally, I'd go for USB 3.0, with at least 16GB storage for persistent volume purposes, or even 128GB or more if you want to store the Monero local node on it. You also need a PC with at least 1GB RAM to run Tails. The bible contains a guide for installing Tails in [b]2.A.2 Installing Tails[/b]. You can download it here:
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>>21346
>p2p that doesn't inherently suck ass on every level?
Isn't that pretty much everything other than blockchain?

>>21346
So you don't know how Monero works. Unlike bitcoin, transactions cannot be tracked back to you. When you are controlling a node, you can wipe/not save all the logs you want. Nobody is forcing you to keep logs on yourself lol

bohemia/cannabia might be exit scamming

localmonero is dead

Archetyp got taken why do these morons host shit in Germany?????

Also Europol put out the most cringey fucking page of all lmao



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