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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

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A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
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Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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I haven't read theory in maybe 8-10 years, back when I still worked with the local militant left (OWS and Chile's 2011 were a fresh memory then), OG /leftypol/ had a vibrant and active community and I still had some of the sparkle in my eyes left. Nowadays I lurk here, leftychan and other boards every once in a new moon

Been meeting with old friends, exchanging ideas, talking about books and Monitoring The Situation™, and more generally I've been interested in reading, and pondering about e.g. Marxist views on ecology, the AI boom and behavioral control through machine learning-powered social media, China's development and governance, some Latin American history, lots of random bits about anthropology and prehistoric humans, etc.

Can't say I've read a lot; being a second year PhD student in applied mathematics has kept me busy. Would love to think further about how that ties in to socialist theory and praxis – I definitely read Cockshott-Cottrell as an edgy teenager and am very familiar with Allende era Chile's Cybersyn experience, but I'm sure there's potential to further understand and develop these things given our current comprehension and understanding of ML/AI and data. Cockshott's own takes on that have been kind of shallow imo, nowadays he seems to be focusing on his YouTube/Zoom lectures about political economy and sometimes world news?

Attached is one of the last books I've read about China. Also here's a historical study on Cybersyn if anyone's interested: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/src/1623233979634.pdf

@ theory, might eventually revisit Gramsci or something now that I have a developed frontal lobe



 

drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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Here I have produced a compilation of ancient and medieval economic theory (360 BCE - 1377 CE)
Included in the collection is:
(i) Xenophon - Economist (360 BCE)
(ii) Xenophon - Revenues (355 BCE)
(iii) Aristotle - Rhetoric, Book I, Chapters VI-VII (350 BCE)
(iv) Aristotle - Ethics, Book V, Chapter V (340 BCE)
(v) Aristotle - Politics, Book I (330 BCE)
(vi) Pseudo-Aristotle - Economics, Books I-II (320 BCE)
(vii) Augustine of Hippo - City of God, Book XI, Chapter XVI (426 CE)
(viii) Thomas Aquinas - A Letter on Credit Sales and Usury (1262 CE)
(ix) Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica, II-II, Q.77-78 (1274 CE)
(x) Giles of Lessinus - De Usuris (1278 CE)
(xi) Nicholas Oresme - De Moneta (1360 CE)
(xii) Ibn Khaldun - Muaqaddimah, Chapter V (1377 CE)



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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>>25637
>replies to a literal 5 year old post with a baseless claim
What a fallacious post.

>>20073
> there are also many people who legit do not realize they're being oppressed and exploited, like a lot of workers in the West.
2 year old post but worth addressing; class consciousness and helping proletariat understand the position they are in is necessary but it's not what the majority of these "activists" do. These people are lifestylists no different from twitter NAFO-tards and the preceding /pol/fags. They don't truly believe in what they shill, they don't even care about the people they claim to be fighting for and would gladly attack members of the groups they claim to represent. I have seen this shit happen. These people are usually terminally online and very vocal, making themselves the 'face' of such things. /pol/'s memes about feminists in 2016 weren't generated AI video, they were thousands of radlibs making idiots of themselves and subsequently making anyone they claimed to represent look like idiots too.



 

What awaits the future? Why is college still so popular now?

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> is college still so popular now?
People hate stoop labor, service work, and industrial work just that much

Degrees losing value doesnt mean you dont need a degree anymore, but rather that having a degree is considered a new bare minimum.

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Gentrification and wages have absolutely murdered third spaces, so young people make up for it by going for higher education since everyone's doing that anyway – it's the social norm. For a lot of young adults college is not just a phase of life you're expected to go through, but also a venue to socialize and network rather than to learn in some idealistic sense of the word, or for whichever other altruistic goal you may think of.

Of course there's also degree inflation i.e. the fact that having some degree is the new baseline for most jobs, even if owning one doesn't mean you're qualified, even if a college education and the skills you need for a job are often a Venn diagram with no intersection. It's odd how all that can be true and yet our teenagers still willingly go into massive debt for a certification.

>What awaits the future?

So long as white collar labor is better paid than blue, and so long as companies still ask for degrees it will stay that way. While a college degree doesn't correlate much with what you'll actually do in the office, basic education is at least aligned with the sort of theoretical or practical knowledge you actually need for that. So there's no incentive to *not* ask for a degree as a bare minimum litmus test. Probably also as a socioeconomic filter because corpos don't want fent junkies in their cubicles.

Some porks like Thiel and other assorted techbros are pushing this idea that academia and university are obsolete for today's enterprise needs, and to be replaced by private training and R&D centers of sorts. (Not too far off from e.g. Samsung's universities in Worst Korea and other corporate-sponsored programs and institutes.) I could see them trying to force this idea onto society through strategic, massive funding and maybe taking advantage of e.g. traditional education's slow adoption of AI technologies beyond just boomer-chatting with GPT or some other assistant. University governance systems and academia politics tend to be dogmatic and conservative –ironically– and thus are slow to adopt revolutionary new tech like LLMs, or modern trends in software development. Some companies already hire autie kids who just git gud at programming for fun without ever setting foot in a school.

From a lefty praxis POV, students should definitely focus more on rethinking higher education itself, and weaponizing knowledge for revolution, rather thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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I'm getting an associates at a community college since it's cheaper to do general education courses here than at a university. I want to major in a math subject for my bachelors but am pretty bad at math.

Basic Math by Lang

Elements, by Euclid

Studying mathematics isn't even worth it. AI will automate math research, and you're contributing to propping up capitalism anyway.

>>25875
Any form g white collar work is often the least prospects AI or not

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seems I'm a few weeks late as per usual with /leftypol/'s current activity, but as an actual PhD(c) applied math I'm compelled to post anyway. also the two serious recs here are hilariously bad or unfit

I would brush up on basic knowledge of algebra and trigonometry/geometry, basically HS math or what you might see as "pre-calculus" or "pre-algebra" in college syllabi. Then if you're majoring in a math-heavy subject you'll want to learn calculus, linear algebra, maybe discrete math, maybe probability and statistics.

Regarding sources I'll recommend Paul's Online Math Notes and Prof. Leonard's lectures:
https://tutorial.math.lamar.edu
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfessorLeonard/courses
Another decent resource for very basic stuff is Khan Academy if you like their format. Also check out the OSSU repo, which is mostly a list of links to relevant online courses: https://github.com/ossu/math

>>25852
>I want to major in a math subject for my bachelors
What motivates you about math? Do you specifically want to major in math (or applied math) or do you mean another STEM major, perhaps CS or some kind of engineering?

>>25875
>and you're contributing to propping up capitalism anyway
lol. lmao



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Are there any modern-day Althusserians or Marxists who still uphold Althusser?

I know Badiou is sort of one but are there others?

I fucking hate humanists and socdems.

>>25891
zizek



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The 19th century Victorian English term for a military operative specializing in scenarios logic was a "necromancer"; capable of taking a treaty, military written or recorded work, or biography or autobiography, and placing it into an intelligence tactic; either interpersonally, or in a field foot play through a handler.

A woman, if British intelligence, is unable to separate the child, from the womb.

Not normally a problem, a "dean", if outside of country under FBI code, a "don"; however, if French lingusitics applied, then the same role as the mother in a male term of English linguistics; a terminology's language, outside of proper term of singular Yiddish. Instead relying on compound words, modified terms of nomenclature with flaws assumed per development and hence courts outside patent (Hebrew manuals, recognition without "God"; the monastic trade on corporate or collegiate life of family).



 

Matthew Lennox: City Planner; Alleys and Maneuvers.
Patrick Nealon: Postal Officer's Pilot; Lawsuit Per NASA.
Megan Dalee: Pogrom's Office; Irish-Methodist Arbiters, Wuhan.
David Charlebois: British Aristocracy; Vatican Wiccan.
Andrew Schuck: Aryan Federation; Christian Rights.
Andrew Brooks: Federal Attorney; Defense Per Chi Omega.
Calvin Williams: Campus Police; State Police Armored Chaplin.
Edward Blanchard: Irish Republican Army; Marijuana Numbers.
William Morgan Jr.: Black Panther Party, Seminarian Architect.
James Duggan: Booking Agent, East Seas Gambling Accounts.



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What's the leftypol take on this book? I'm not trolling - it's existence has haunted my life. I was raised catholic… Christianity has both ruined & saved my life and my opinions on it have only gotten more complex.

Some of the greatest art of all time has been religiously motivated. But the question of Christianity specifically is a big one. On one hand all manner of brown people are more sincerely christian than a lot of white people have ever been. It might be the one thing saving Africa right now!

But on the other hand The first Roman Empire & Greek empire were polytheistic & they might have achieved a civilizational peak that surpasses the situation we live in right now. Christianity is very homophobic & a huge portion of Europe/UK demographics are atheist & seem to be some of the happiest nations on earth. Christianity might even be the reason that the Roman Empire fell & is responsible for a lot of really bad imperialism & colonialism.

What am I supposed to make of it? Jesus was surely a good man, no? The word of god has saved homeless, sick, and morally corrupt. Where does the justification to do evil come from when people read this?
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>>25495
But that's the way adults treat children.

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Rich people are demons

<The man's unsubstantiated allegations of "ritualistic sacrifice" appeared in an email exchange between an apparent FBI agent and New York police detective, per the DOJ's records (the file name is "EFTA00147661" (archived)). The DOJ appeared to have removed this file from the Epstein Library after Snopes first reported this story. We contacted the department to ask why and await a reply.


https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/first/contra2_list.html
This is a good site to free christcucks from their fairy tales
>>25468
outside of Israel at least, where it is a daily occurence.

>>25882
I personally believe in the Bible myself, and I disagree with the content presented here. But however, I do not wish to debate right now. My easter has been great.
>>25471
We all will become righteous because we are all sinners.



 

I convinced a quite a big amount of Muslim friends and even Elder Muslim folks in my community that Capitalism is Haram with one simple argument: Usury is a sin under the the rule of "Riba" being Haram, literally meaning "infinite" or "excess" in Arabic, due to financial exploitation and taking advantage of the person.

Simple

>Infinite growth is a sin requires financial exploitation, and making money off of being idle

>Capitalism's main ethos is infinite profit extraction
>They connect the dots

This opens them up to other arguments like "Infinite growth is impossible on a planet with finite resources" and other things like excess, indulgence and things Capitalists encourage like gambling being a sin (Prediction markets are awful)

I then explain it's like pork, you can eat pork or drink alcohol if you need to if there is nothing else to eat or you need to numb pain under the Islamic law of Rukhsah (Exemptions out of health or other necessities) and we are forced to participate in it order to survive

This easily convinces a lot of Muslims, even ones I meet in the global south who are otherwise very conservative and even if I can't make them fully woke or whatever it's good to have people wake up to some injustice at least. Class interests come first

The main thing I'm asking is if anyone knows any similar works on Socialism from an Islamic perspective using this same logic or at least pre-modern Islamic works that meet the base principles of socialism and wants to discuss this further
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the key is to not simply be against usury, but also against profit, rent, and wages. Communism seeks to abolish the wages system. profit, interest, rent, and wages are all part of the system of exploitation.

>>25821
depends on the kind of education

>>25823
Education in general

>>25821
Western style higher education, especially STEM fields, embody the epistemology and ideology of secularism and capitalism. You'll notice that most chuds and neo stalinists are people from STEM backgrounds i.e. people who believe we can rationally predict and plan all human affairs with statistics, the scientific method etc.

>>25873
Secular here is relative.
They’re still motivated by some “higher power/higher calling”



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