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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

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A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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>>25443
what specifically are you doubting?



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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>>25403
nationalism begins as a liberal movement with the french revolution, but has its prehistory in the reformation, where kings would claim sovereignty against the catholic church and so establish independence. it has since been appropriated by both the far left and far right as means of self-determination.
>>25395
national socialism was an existing movement which hitler became part of; he did not create it. the earliest mention of "national socialism" is in 1898, but it becomes official with rudolf jung's "der nationale sozialismus" (1919). in the book, anticapitalism and volkism is specified, with a special interest on fighting usury. there were of course internal divisions in NS, most notably the "socialist" wing in people like strasser, while hitler took the side of the industrialists.



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https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
Engels’ On Authority is razor-sharp essay of pure scientific fact—1,386 words—that dismantles anarchist utopianism with upmost efficiency. It takes 5 minutes to read and leaves no room for debate: society itself, revolution, all basic social functions, etc., require some form of authority. This is not an opinion; it is observable fact.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/judgesabo-read-on-authority
Yet here we have some terminally online anarchist penning a 52,000-word monstrosity in response. That’s 37 times longer than Engels’ original piece. The anarchist spends 79 hours' worth of handwriting time (LMAO) crafting this screed. The sheer volume of this "refutation" is itself proof of its intellectual bankruptcy. The Ratio of Copium to Substance is vast, as with all anarchist refutation of socialist theory. Endless semantic quibbling, ("But what is authority, really?") endless circular logic, along with citing hundred other liberals culminates in a pathetic monument to ideological impotence—a 50,000-word confession that anarchism cannot refute Marxism on substance, so it must drown the debate in verbosity. Engels needed just 1,400 words to prove authority’s necessity because material reality speaks for itself—factories need managers, trains need schedules, and revolutions need discipline. The anarchist’s bloated treatise, by contrast, is what happens when unsounded petty-bourgeois individualism tries to deny the objective laws of social organization: an embarrassing tantrum disguised as scholarship, its very length an admission of defeat.
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>>25015
>normal
idealism

>>25017
Okay totally not dysfunctional and damaging to the development of a person then.

>>25018
and what determines this?

>>24969
absolutely accurate. the ussr suffered this post-stalin as well as yugoslavia post-tito

the only thing you need to know about anarchism in order to reject it is that it's a moral analysis



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I'm 31. I never went to college because I considered it a waste of time. The state of education in the USA is abhorrent and I never for a moment considered there would be something to gain by wasting time in ideological brainwashing factories masquerading as educational institutions. I'm employed in the trades and I've always studied philosophy in my spare time, but I'm seriously considering university now because I believe (perhaps mistakenly) that my abilities and knowledge have reached a point of enough breadth and depth to make a career as a philosopher, and to get some papers and books published. Has anyone here pursued that path, and if so, what were your experiences?
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>>25484
By 'they' I mean people like Lenin, Marx etc.

>>25485
>>25484
Moreover, the entire premise of education (as it currently exists) is one of submission. It isn't an accidental stroke of etymology that you have to 'submit' a paper ;).
To deviate from the accepted standards is an unconscionable act, and deserves to be met only with browbeating in the eyes of the imperious arbitrators.
If you truly think critically, you'll come to the realization that much of academia is a kind of 'ritual' more than it is anything transcendentally objective; most of its presuppositions are arbitrary and cannot be honestly defended, and so they fall back upon the circularity of their own tautological self-validation, either through demanding accreditation (circular) or through deferring to likeminded communities who already predispose themselves to the starting premise that education *must* be an inherent 'good', i.e. curating their argumentative experience with the likes of reddit and bluesky and academic forums and so on (tautological). The basis of contemporary education is to work backwards from a series of starting presuppositions and deem anyone who attempts to dissent anew from this as 'stupid' or 'ignorant' or 'crazy'. So-called 'common sense' is really just a form of brutal conformism, and it is fundamentally feminine in essence–it is best encapsulated with the spirit of the phrase 'Really? I can't even…' or something akin to that. The very notion that the fundamental foundations might be a festering source is treated as an inconceivably profaned thing. I don't share the same cynicism towards the future possibility of the human condition, or the reading of its full nature, as Eugene, but he is absolutely on the mark at least with respect to the current state of affairs.

Name a single philosopher who has produced anything of world shattering, history moving value from the modern universities. There isn't one. Probably the most interesting figures currently out there are those involved in the speculative realist movement, but in the end, irrelevance is the doomed fate of those who radically innovate (i.e. 'challenge') under this system. If you want to be a philosopher, OP, you must do it for the love of an enduring truth which might one day be excavated and embraced hermeneutically, assuming anything evePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>25486
BTW OP I have a degree in philosophy. It was a waste of time and money and most importantly sanity. All it did was further entrench my hatred for the capitalist world.
Anyone who currently thinks this shit is worthwhile, at least from a philosophical (and not, say, medical–assuming an honest doctor, of course) perspective, is as delusional and pliable to recuperation as someone like Chomsky. It's hilarious to see so many anarchists embrace university. Worshipping a microcosmic mirror of the dynamic the state already serves, thereby telling on themselves in the implicit process: "We want to abolish our lack of power, not to abolish power altogether–we'll forge it again in our image." Very similar logic to Zionism, wherein the phrase "never again" is perverted into indicating "never again TO THE LIKES OF US", rather than being a universalist renunciation of genocide.

>>25486
>>25487
I was a phil major for years and ended up dropping out and I agree 100% with what you are saying. Academia is just a recuperation factory.

>ideological brainwashing factories
reactionary rhetoric



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What's the leftypol take on this book? I'm not trolling - it's existence has haunted my life. I was raised catholic… Christianity has both ruined & saved my life and my opinions on it have only gotten more complex.

Some of the greatest art of all time has been religiously motivated. But the question of Christianity specifically is a big one. On one hand all manner of brown people are more sincerely christian than a lot of white people have ever been. It might be the one thing saving Africa right now!

But on the other hand The first Roman Empire & Greek empire were polytheistic & they might have achieved a civilizational peak that surpasses the situation we live in right now. Christianity is very homophobic & a huge portion of Europe/UK demographics are atheist & seem to be some of the happiest nations on earth. Christianity might even be the reason that the Roman Empire fell & is responsible for a lot of really bad imperialism & colonialism.

What am I supposed to make of it? Jesus was surely a good man, no? The word of god has saved homeless, sick, and morally corrupt. Where does the justification to do evil come from when people read this?
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>>25447
A product of its' time, among many axial texts such as those of Buddhists and Confucianists. Some modern philosophers of science have proposed that they make better sense as a collection of 'sacred metaphors', that is, truthisms that let readers (or listeners, as before the Protestant Reformation the Bible was recited among a crowd instead of read privately: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectio_Divina) break frame and connect themselves to their lived world. In this sense, there's a lot of evidence of an Aristotelian methodology within the Bible, which is something I typically talk about with the LW Protestants (Lutheran, Episcopalian, Eucharists) in my city to make the case for commie politics.

That being said, I don't believe the Bible is literally truthful, or even reliable, historical text. I think the prevalence of a literal interpretation comes from the myth-fetishism (folk theories) that most people have to shortcut understanding how the meaning of a thing relates to its' literal expression. Though I wouldn't doubt that's a holdover of religion in general being used as the locus of social control for millennia.

If you're interested in this, I ended up learning this framing of sacred texts in general from this one (sometimes annoyingly liberal) CogSci doctor from UoT. It's a 50-hour long web lecture series. I'll link the playlist here: https://johnvervaeke.com/series/awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis/

>>25470
that is just anglos being protestants

The idea that humans are innately evil is the most toxic idea you could ever implant into civilization, to indoctrinate people into believing that their lives have no intrinsic value and take away their self-awareness and agency and consciousness and everything else that makes them human, and turn them into passive dummies who only seek external validation. It lays the groundwork for totalitarianism, acclimatizing people to the idea that only an outside authority figure can tell you who you are; you can never know the answer yourself and you should never try to find out.

>>25495
Humans are inclined to evil but the problem with Christianity is that Christianity wants people to be infantilised patrons for Jehovah and Jesus.

“Not by my will, but HIs Will”
“Without Jesus, my life has no purpose”

It reeks of vulnerable narcissism, using God as your ego shield

>>25501
only a life-denying, nihilistic religion like christianity can convince people of martyrdom. the idea that being tortured to death by rapists who will conquer your land is better than fighting them is peak psyop shit;
>oh, please crucify me upside down!
this is why peter holds the keys to the kingdom lol



 

Esochannealogy: esoteric chan culture
- Information Warfare;
- Psychological Warfare;
- Cognitive Warfare;
- Memetic Warfare;
- Psychological Operations;
- Second Generation Memetic Warfare (SGMW/2GMW).

>>25429
Use these PDFs in AI. You will see the magic.

Bump.

Based.

>>25430
This is liberal garbage on par with something I'd read from Alex Karp.

>>25492
This is literally neutral. It is a Memetic Warfare System integrated with AI.



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ITT: Simply post screenshots of passages you found interesting. Also share the source of the screenshot so anons can read whatever they find interesting.

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RIP. Millions must read miataken identity, one of the best criticisms of identity politics within the left while being committed to black, queer and female liberation.



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Choosing a language edition

I do not know why we do not have an active language learning thread, so here you go.
If you got other links you think are worthy of being on here, do mention them.

>Language learning communities

r/languagelearning
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/

Language learner's forum
https://forum.language-learners.org/

Linguaholic's forum
https://linguaholic.com/

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>>25466
Advanced Chinese Reader (3/3)
I can only find a pdf of the reader, unfortunately
Here is a link to the textbook's Yale Press page anyhow https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300000566/advanced-chinese/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/advanced-chinese-reader/id716763840


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>>25449
To be honest, i have never seen written Azerbaijani in Iran. The Azeri friends i have had mostly seem to speak it and that, only at home or with each other.

I did find this old document from pre-revolution era which appears to have been written in the Persian script.

>>25456
Interesting, Though anyone who has dipped his toes in Language Learning is sure to have heard of Anki.




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