thoughts on this statement by kyle? its clear that the majority of atheists dont leave their faith for scientific reasons, but moral reasons. the belief in a good higher than God appears to be the pathos made logos, and a new faith lives in this ideal, often expressed politically. this appears to be a platonic repudiation of monotheism, since the platonic monad is impersonal. God cannot also be the good, since if God decides what is good he is beyond it. thus, God must be subordinate to his own edict. plato writes about this in "euthyphro" and aquinas also writes about it, claiming that while God makes the law, his inherent goodness forces him to abide by it. the contradiction is setting conditions against the unconditional; can God create a stone he cannot lift? according to aquinas, yes. such as epicurus says, then he is not God… the atheist is merely a philosopher in birth (both socrates and christians were accused of being atheists in their persecution).
18 posts and 6 image replies omitted.>>729517You have it backwards, morality is subjective the universe is indifferent to our actions. What you are describing as 'objective' morality is subjective morality that large parts of the population agree with. It's comes from the social nature of human existence. Even then depending on where you are raised your moral sentiments can vary wildely.
We do not believe in "morality", we are materialists. We deal with Ethics.
>>729490Correct most philosophers being atheists who argue for moral realism doesn't mean it's true but it should make you revaluate being a reddit nihilist.
>>729490i think god is cool and i don’t care about morality either