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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2587713
if I was a woman or gay I would suck this guy off

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>>2587832
What if he gave you 10 grand? Would you do it then?

What do you think of Mao Zedong?

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>>2587838
I only eat Mao brand Mangoes.



 

COUP IN BENIN
A Faction of the military apparently has ousted President Patrice Talón, seizing the media stations and spraying the bullets of the president's house. Apparently he is another french neocolonial subject
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>>2587133
>he current president that talon comprador fuck also just modified the constitution to make himself the eternal president
That's an autogolpe. I just wanted to type that musical Spanish word.

Makes me wonder if Talon coup-proofed in advance. The coupsters were unfamiliar with his game.

This morning:
>The coup is over, don't worry fellow allies
This evening:
>FRANCE AND NIGERIA SAVE ME
>Nigeria preparing to invade if the coup succeed


>>2587425
juste admets que tu as eu tort. il n'y a pas des mentions à propos de devenir le président à vie dans ces liens.
and inb4 people here sperg out at me for daring to speak the DEVIL's language. i'm not french, i'm mexican.



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<National Insecurity Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2587673
Yet no analysis I've seen takes into account this fact that America has a reactionary majority. And I would argue that most people's politics reflect their class basis. Americans are majority reactionary because a majority of Americans are either bourgeois, petty bourgeois or directly benefit from imperialism (this amounts to tens of millions alone) and therefore have a materialist reason to oppose revolutionary Communism.

>>2587683
Lots of people do buy their home as both a speculative asset and a place to live. This is a key aspect of home ownership in America and other capitalist nations.

>>2587817
his full schizo thoughts on the matter can be found here:

>>>/dead/5617

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>>2587820
wudda fugg

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>>2587823
Honestly, when people write these rambling ass pseudo-intellectual screeds with 0 structure it always read to me like:

>If 2+2 = 4 and their are four letters in four, but the first letter in first is f, but first has five letters, but five also starts with f, but five has four letters and 5-4 = 1, and the first letter of the alphabet is A….

Like ok, dude, even every if every statement in that long chain is true, what possible insight do you think could be gained from it?

trumps sends another planed filled with iranian gusanos back to tehran
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/world/middleeast/us-deports-second-planeload-iranians.html



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>>2587810
Being better than libs (and all other politics) at all times is tiring work, you know.

>a Westerner is criticizing Asiatic Horde socialists, listen and learn!
<*look inside*
>TRADE WAR! MORE TRADE WAR! ALL THE TRADE WAR!
>GO TO REAL WAR! START A PROXY WAR! WW3 RIGHT NOW!
Tell me about these Westerner "leftists". Why are they so bloodthirsty and barbaric? How do I learn this constant… need for ostracism?

>>2587818
You're a westerner leftist

Death to the Banderite Entity!

Arseniy "Lupin" Yatsenyuk



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The Kurdish nationalist movement’s anti-communism

>By Cansu Oba


>A recent article published by one of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s media outlets has provided an opportunity to revisit certain aspects of the movement’s class character and ideological foundations.

>In reality, this stance is not new. Throughout Abdullah Öcalan’s years in prison, he has repeatedly produced statements and writings that target socialist experiences and the founders of scientific socialism. These have for some time been highlighted in the movement’s own media.


>What makes the current moment significant is that Öcalan is one of the central actors in an ongoing political process in Turkey. The “peace process”—carried out with the open support of the leader of the fascist party and through direct contact between Öcalan, a parliamentary commission, and state officials—has transformed the political environment. At the same time, a former co-chair and current MP of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s party, the DEM Party, declared that the party now effectively serves as the country’s main opposition. All of this signals that the emerging bourgeois political landscape provides fertile ground for the resonance between the Kurdish nationalist movement’s attacks on socialism and the bourgeois politics’ more traditional forms of anti-communism.


>Yet the PKK was never, in reality, a genuinely Marxist-Leninist organization. Founded in the late 1970s, a period in which the left dominated Turkey’s political and social arena, the PKK employed Marxist-Leninist terminology and drew from these values, but it was always, at its core, a national movement.


>Claims that Öcalan has “surpassed Marxism”—when considered together with his recent statement that he has been “waiting 50 years to be understood”—suggest a line of ideological continuity rather than a merely conjunctural shift.


>The Kurdish nationalist movement, now firmly situated somewhere between social democracy and nationalism within Turkey’s political landscape, has strengthened ties with various factions of the bourgeoisie, including some of Turkey’s most prominent capitalist families. Meanwhile, its distance from the republic’s founding prin
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>>2586843
>Rojava—ironically one of the closest U.S. and Israeli allies in the region and a convenient asset in their Middle East strategy
<turkroach talking points, no proofs.
So tiresome.

I like how libtards are ignoring the years of dick riding Turkish leftists did for the PKK but it cucked out lol

>>2587824
The notion TKP has been 'dickriders' for Rojava/DAANES in the past is either delusion or lies. Neither would surprise me.

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>>2587809
No arguments detected.
One the PKK doesn’t outright reject Marxism. They’ve critiqued its limitations and overlooks and acted accordingly. Not to mention they feel confident that they can at least negotiate with the Turkish state owing to growing opposition to Erdogan.
2. Rojava hasn’t sold out to Israel and has taken in refugees from Lebanon when they attacked. Not to mention the PKK has consistently fought Israel.
Rojava has condemned the genocide against the Palestinians.
3. The idea that they’re “collaborating” with the regime is laughable. They are still clashing with them and still have their autonomy and have rejected the model of government that the regime has.

These arguments have as much weight to them as the TKP which is to say none.

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>>2587824
Third option: You're confusing TKP and TKP-ML/TİKKO.



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2587443
Modern irrigation systems are expensive.
Anyway, it's not what I asked anon, that could be done with or without white farmers. Im asking you why your meme framed this famine resulting from drought to be a result of Mugabe "Kicking out the white farmers"

>>2587428
>There's already de facto oppression of whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa
fucking kys polyp with your shitty race propaganda

>>2587443
>just instantly build a whole irrigation system when you have a drought!
>>2587514
>here I asked an AI about zimbabwe agriculture 20 years ago because I dont know shit about it
this is the retards we have to deal with today

>>2587745
I already knew Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa (that's a popular chud talking point), I just screencapped it so you would believe it more.

>>2587633
>Leftoid government kicks-out people who know how to deal with drought/irrigation because of ideologically/racially driven "land reform"
>famine occurs

>>2587825
The famine occurred because Mugabe distributed the land to his own cadre of corrupt officers and friends who didn't know how to run a farm not because they didn't have anyone who couldn't manage them. I mean the whites had Zimbabwean farmhands and assistants who helped them manage the farm that they provided training and skills too.



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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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>>2586723
The poster was made before the USSR left the Berlin Axis to join the London Axis :)

>>2582514

Another aspect is that Palestine is also perceived as one of the most helpless and pure victim conflicts, therefore relatively safe to support.

If resistance ever lot more intense, nevermind led by even milktoast socdems, the support would begin to evaporate very fast.

>>2585273
The US fucked over Somalia during the cold war, but the UN aid mission is not an Invasion

>>2587774
>UN aid mission
Wholesome!

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>>2582509
Interestingly, a half-Levantine, half-Northern Euro is technically "whiter" than an Ashkenazi



 

So this video has been going viral recently and it’s made me ask: will the demand to designate doctors and nurses as “cops” and the move to abolish doctors, nurses, and hospitals as we know it be the next bullshit wedge issue to divide an already fragile left?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR2sZ0fD2DM/

Basically, she uses Silvia Federici and Michel Foucault to argue that doctors are oppressive, that hospitals are prisons, and that we should seek to go back to a time when witches and doulas were the main providers of healthcare through giving herbal medicines like mugwort and tree bark. She also claims doctors gatekeeper medical knowledge and every individual should take care of their own health without relying on professionals. She also says we need to be more “death positive” and just accept death instead of using medical treatments of offset it.

Personally, I find these types of sentiments dangerous, especially given how we just came out of a pandemic that killed at least 10 million people worldwide and many Americans die due to lack of healthcare access. Your thoughts? Are doctors and nurses the equivalent to cops,
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>>2587767
Christian Science kind of nuttery

>>2587750
>Also, how does “community medicine” (which I’m assuming she means DIY quack cures like pink salt) prevent a fucking pandemic or treat/cure illnesses that often result in early death if left untouched? What a fucking idiot.

In the context of late medieval Europe, you've got an accumulation of folk remedies of variable effectivity. The stereotypical idea of magic, where you mix a bunch of junk together, say a spell, and then something weird happens, has its roots in this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Old_Recipes/comments/nyzron/a_fascinating_thread_tracing_old_traditional/

>So there’s this old German remedy for getting rid of boils. A mix of eggshells, egg whites, and sulfur rubbed into the boil while reciting the incantation and saying five Paternosters. And according to my prof’s friend (a doctor), it’s all very sensible. The eggshells abrade the skin so the sulfur can sink in and fry the boil. The egg white forms a flexible protective barrier. The incantation and prayers are important because you need to rub it in for a certain amount of time.


So for these people, the "magic" element, what I guess she's referring to by "community medicine", is that traditionally passed down knowledge, which could theoretically have pre-Christian roots. Kind of like how American English days of the week have Pagan roots with most Yankees having no cultural knowledge about who Fri was or why its his day.

It's not all totally crazy mumbo jumbo, because there's got to be SOME kind of efficacy to what they're doing, even if it's just a placebo effect, or else it wouldn't be passed down. The thing is though, it's like you said, home remedies and superstitious voodoo isn't going to stop bubonic plague or whatever.

>>2587779
She's not an anarchist + "anarcho" primitivism was invented by a "former" Marxist academic John Zerzan. Real anarchists have to stop catering reactionary ideologies and embrace communism instead.

>>2587788
Zerzan's bullshit anthropology fetishizing early humans is false at that, he tries to portray tribal socities as "having no hieararchies", any recognition of "anprims" serves as a recognition of crony anthropology.

antivaxxers if they read theory, the anarchist equivalent of lysenkoists. All 3 are essentially pro-disease nurglites and should be treated as such(CPC treatment of the falun gong being a good example of how to deal with woowoo death cults).



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