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>>2453862
> he needs some clothes and glasses
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>>2479916
Said friend does actually read a lot of books, though, including ones on leftist theory (idk which ones specifically), and I barely read any books myself - I'd rather be playing video games or watching movies, honestly, though I do try to read books at least for screen breaks. He once told me as he read more stuff, he realized there were things that he found wrong about leftist theory and drifted away from leftism. Idk much else, and I didn't bother to ask further since it seemed like a bad idea to do so.

>>2480081
Lucky you. I'd say I'm generally pretty progressive-leaning, even despite my internet anti-SJW phase growing up. But ultimately, I'm just a guy who saw and read a bunch of shit online that pushed me leftward, so I don't consider it as concrete as, say, reading leftist theory.

>>2480093
After the whole Intercept Hunter Biden scandal in the 2020 election, Greenwald left the Intercept and bent towards a right-libertarian streak by talking about free speech constantly to appeal to the right and hosts a show on Rumble, which probably tells you all you need to know. People on the online left basically disowned him, calling him a grifter who only got the big leaks he's known for from other people and disseminated them. I find the whole thing sad, for while Greenwald could be annoying, it's unfortunate that he turned towards the right and the online left (well, thr demsoc left at least, idk about you recolutionary types) jumped straight to calling him a grifter instead of being more introspective or concerned, like asking "Man, it's not good that our progressive/leftist allies are drifting towards the right during a time fascism is taking over. Should we try to be more understanding and combat this without being so uncharitable?", and instead they're like "Nah, it's just grifting. Not like there's any trends here whatsoever!" Like, the only meaningful thing I've seen on that phenomenon was Naomi Klein's "Doppelganger" (idk what people here think of her - I'm assuming they probably don't like her much), even if it's probably not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. But I'm rambling on again about stupid tangentiaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2482246
To be fair, Greenwald did it because it became much more profitable. Material interests are strong.

>>2482246
The Intercept literally doxxed their whistleblower, it is basically a honeypot

>>2482246
>our progressive/leftist allies
>fascism taking over
It sounds like I'm watching CNN. Much like Greenwald, your entire thought process is within the fake American "left vs right" liberal vs conservative capitalist spectrum. Greenwald got pushed out of your side by the histrionics and political gaslighting of your types over the past few years. Really you and the "fascist conservatives" you scream about daily have much more in common, politically, with each other than you have to anybody here who wants to challenge capitalism in any real way.

>>2482369
The grift is just as profitable on the so-called American "left." Maybe even moreso.

>>2479065
>Places for Succdem/Demsucc Bitching?
Reddit, xitter and facebook. This place is for revolutionary socialism not liberalism.

>>2482583
in the gospels the disciples constantly misunderstand Jesus. some also theorise that many of the disciples were young people or teenagers which makes their naivete more understandable.

>>2482591
Yeah but in those stories he corrects them. I guess he tells Peter he was wrong to use the sword he told him to buy but the rest you have to just speculate.

>>2482591
On the disciple topic, it's funny how much they are venerated when they were just random dudes he went up to and counted twelve of. Then later some guys come who really want to follow him and he's like:
>"Yeah I already got 12 dudes, and besides you guys look like you are ready to go off on your own anyways, you don't need anymore training."

>>2482508
>Today FBI Director Patel vowed to investigate “anyone and everyone in that Discord chat.”
awwww the guys there are going to the right-wing re-education camp, and get clockworked with hardcore deranged rethuglican propaganda.

>>2482599
Yes, and a race fetishizer.

>>2482594
damn uyghur, that´s your hope?! lmao

Citizens, in general, would rather make pogroms against "illegals" than join hands. White southerners would rather vote for "i´m going end your healthcare" Republic for the 800x time than see a black woman on child support.

>>2482465
>liberalism but with BROWN nationalism
Nothing to do with socialism.

Humans were a tribal species for hundreds of thousands of years and have always had an instinctive mistrust of anyone outside of their tribe, anyone who doesn't look like them. To evolve beyond this behavior would require a fundamental alteration to human nature, we would have to redefine what humans are and how we think and navigate the world. That sounds like a hell of a lot of work, it would be a lot easier to just continue being racist.

>>2482603
“Racism as a mere superstructure” is not true. It is not even a matter of base and superstructure, but of skeleton, meaning it is not merely derivative. Read Gramsci.

>>2482597
Life hasnt been multicellular for at least 3,5 billion years on Earth.

>>2482597
You can emulate it and create your own life, like the aspiration to make homunculus if you want aliens so bad, you just need to convince humanity to not be religious retards and 100% pour their sources and ability into development.

>>2482600
That reply was not necessary

>>2482593
Being able to sustain life does not equal ever having life. Cool news.

>>2480426
I agree.

>>2482237
that specific video got pulled into my recommended tab

>>2481811
Tell me more

>they're still sephirophposting
The right is undergoing total lolcowification, expect to see posts mocking this type of thing soon

I literally can't refute any of what you said, its all fax

>>2478516
ACP slop detected

>>2478516
Very cool anon, based and real movement pilled. Have a (You)

>>2482431
not an argument, chud

>>2478516
Canada will never be communist unless invaded by China.

>>2482554
division by who? this new class of "representatives" or the people?

>>2482546
marx was a 'dialectical materialist', inheriting many ideas from Hegel, including the dialectic conception of history. dialectics is not 'deterministic', but the forces involved in the dialectic change the dialectic over time as they interact, in a way that is irreversible and partially determined by material conditions. for example, there can be no 'going back' to feudal agriculture in the modern world, as the technology already exists to out-produce feudal agriculture - this is an irrevocable 'progress' of social organization.

>>2482563
read:
<Intrinsically, it is not a question of the higher or lower degree of development of the social antagonisms that result from the natural laws of capitalist production. It is a question of these laws themselves, of these tendencies working with iron necessity towards inevitable results. The country that is more developed industrially only shows, to the less developed, the image of its own future.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/p1.htm

>>2482561
under communism there is no 'who' who would benefit from promoting sexism, as the 'representatives' are not a distinct separate class, but rather social servants who are subject to popular recall etc. the 'who' under capitalism are the capitalist oligarchs, if a communist revolution succeeds there will be no oligarchs. during a revolution, there may be a vanguard party, but if this is a genuine proletarian movement that is well equipped and educated for the task, this vanguard party will also see no benefit in dividing the working class, replacing class consciousness with vulgar bigotry. the goal of the communist revolutionary is to build class consciousness, not to erase it and replace it with bigotry. to try to entice the people by appealing to their basest bigotries and prejudices is pure tailism, the vanguard must advance the level of political awareness and class consciousness among the people, rather than conceding to reactionary lies.

>>2482575
if sexism is based on a division of labour of the sexes, would it be more sexist to integrate sports or segregate them based on gender?