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>>2287251
get shredded and no one will care, in fact they'll think you're based and funny


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

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>>2395050
I'm not. Didn't you read my post? I said that Zohran is communism with American characteristics. It's a good thing because it's finally taking form. Like the famous quote, all that's solid turns to air etc. Everything is in a transitional state at all times, socialism with American characteristics is taking proper form.

>>2395103
that's right. tulsi is the champion of the proletariat

>>2395103
i think it's because people are sick of people like AOC betraying them and then they get pleasantly surprised when people like tucker carlson say something randomly correct.

>>2395051
There are a couple yes. They are also called progressives in the current American parlance.

>>2395099
The antidote to liberalism and individualism is collective action, and the way you get to collective action is by getting groups of people to fight back, and you get more people to fight back by demonstrating bravery on your own. We're already starting to get the ball rolling: Luigi Mangione has a huge approval rating especially among the youth, and the ongoing federal occupation of California is being met with increased efforts of communities to hamper ICE's kidnapping attempts. People are scared and apathetic, but they're slowly starting to wake up. By making a point of resisting more and resisting harder, we inspire more to take up the mantle.

So hey, maybe you just need to gather some buddies and BREAK STUFF. Even if it doesn't do much, the simple act of BREAKING STUFF as it were will inspire others to BREAK STUFF harder and better, because you've shown that it's possible to do it and get away with it. Rome wasn't built in a day and all that

>>2395101
I dont wanna fight other socialists though, I wanna bash the fash with baseball bats!


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
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>>2395035
Proof that tanKKKoids are just teenagers ideology shopping whatever shit they come across on the internet that upsets their liberal parents.

>>2395049
>>2395035

????

>>2394989
Socialism with American Characteristics will replace the gulag system with reality television. The bourgeoisie, rather than being executed, will go through a semi-scripted version of “undercover boss” where they have to live in a dingy apartment and make rent while their former employees play “corporate” and try to fuck with them by coming up with increasingly stupid ideas to “synergize workflows” or whatever.

>>2394365
not much rape or human trafficking in the romance novel industry tbf

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Why does it feel like so much “anti-imperialism” has very little — if anything — to do with anti-imperialism and is simply Muslim identity politics?

For instance, why would anyone compare Pakistan to Palestine, when the former is a sovereign nation that was a close US ally during the Cold War and the latter a stateless nation that’s been fighting a 77+ year guerrilla war against one of the most brutal armies in the world and is now facing an all-out genocide? Pakistan and India are both bourgeois states with close ties to the US that both frequently imprison communists. To compare Pakistan to Palestine, in that western activists have a moral duty to hold mass protests waving Pakistani flags and boycott anything Indian is fucking stupid.

Yeah, I’m not shilling for India. But this shit is theoretically weak af.

Also, why does it seem like in every political conflict involving Muslims (except for China vs the Uyghurs) leftists always insist on taking the “Muslim side”? Look at Ethiopia vs Somalia or Christians vs Muslims in Nigeria, for instance. During the Cold War this would have made perfect sense, because the side fighting against the side backed by the West could be allied with the USSR and utilized to fight western capitalists. Today, not so much.

I’d love to understand the logic here.
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>>2393975
>immigration discourse
spookiest of spooks

>>2393975
critical support for people who happen to be religious is not the same as being pro-religion.

>>2258918
>As if there would ever be enough criticism that would accept.
there isn't; religion is generally indefensible especially hitching your wagon to it as a political strategy. much is made of "tailism" but that is all leftism trying to jump onto religious movements really is. much more often religious will flush out the leftism from the movement because religion of any kind is the sockpuppet through which the bourgeois use to control the masses, it's not the remit of leftists.

>>2260125
who has ever praised turkey on this board? being against all those countries is good. being critical of gadaffi and assad is also fine, but cheering their overthrow was not great without a better alternative to replace them, as has played out in both those countries. but to also accept the status quo of their regimes was not great either. there is le nuance and one does not have to take a particular side in this matter. all of us here are just amateur analysts ultimately and have aboslutely zero influence on the ground, nor does our opinion matter much outside of discussing with each other on this board. what I am ultimately against is cheerleading any side, especially if there is no leftist alternative. the best we can do is analyze and grasp the situations, the weakness and strengths of each regime, and so on, without actually having a hard opinion, because all the regimes you are discussing have ultimately crushed their hard leftist movements or made them quiescent partners of their regimes, which have plenty of dogshit policies.

>>2263695
>critically support a specific group is for geopolitical economic analysis
or the less retarded option: support no one who isn't leftist and simply analyze the geopolitics and geoeconomics to understand what is happening on a structural level rather than taking hitching your emotions to political powers and actors that could not care less about a western leftist's support.


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Are Uyghurs actually worse than regular normies?

This is an important distinction, since the reactionary camp encompasses two types of people.

1. Normie operating on instinct
2. Entrenched cultist with ideological conviction

For example, America is full of the first kind. I wouldn't expect your regular American Christian to oppose life extension through science, because they wouldn't be ideologically consistent enough in their worldview to want that. Their fear of death or inconvenience in the moment outweighs the abstract possibility of heaven in their mind, creating a sort of instinctive doublethink. For such people, religion is an expression of autopilot conformity. They don't have agency are more like red blood cells in the social organism rather than something to be exterminated.

Keep in mind, I have massive contempt for the first type of reactionary. Unfortunately, they are the VAST majority in every society, and the "socialization" solution for this majority is only achievable through careful sustained effort (as the USSR learned the hard way). If the Uyghurs are a variant of this first type of person, then overkill persecution isn't necessary and won't achieve much (aside from bad optics).

HOWEVER, if they are like the second group - Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or other moralizing fundies who would prevent us from playing god with science, they deserve everything they get and more.

Most of what I know about these people is from heavily biased sources. Do we have any objective proof that Uyghurs belong to the second category of fundamentalist reactionaries? I have no stake in this matter, and am open to a convincing argument on why they people actually suck.
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>>2334291
>sit down bitch boy, get back to me when anarchists can build 47,000 KM of high speed rail
Destroy all the railways in China, let the chinese comrades turn it into an anarchist commune, and the railways will be rebuild as they need it. Kropotkin used it as an example (chapter 11), you should read some basic anarchist theory.

>>2337784
>Destroy all the railways in China, let the chinese comrades turn it into an anarchist commune, and the railways will be rebuild as they need it
But why do this when the railway was already constructed in a much faster, more efficient and organized manner than what you/Kropotkin proposes? Which basically amounts to "just let it be, people sorted shit out between themselves before and that's like the best way to do it"

Also please provide an example of anarchists actually building high speed rail instead of theorizing about it

All of you are dumb uyghurs, actually, lol.

Turks massacre minorities in their country and claim it's legitimate. But when the same thing happens to them, they become the most human rights-conscious people.

>>2337784
>Destroy all the railways in China,[…]and the railways will be rebuild as they need it.
Even with this hilariously insane logic, you'd save yourself a lot of trouble by just using what you need and leaving the rest.


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>Western MSM flooding the zone with reports that the US will depose Zelensky in the coming months
Welp, there's the signal for an imminent Ukrainian provocation against Russia. Before a provocation, the Western MSM always does this song and dance about a supposed throwing of Zelensky or Ukraine as a whole under the bus. Some goon in the State Department has probably come to attribute Russia's non-responses to such information tactics, unable to conceive that there'd be the same non-response without the infosphere massaging of Putin's 'patience'.

>>2394899
no they are only sending labubu

>>2394895
Kys chauvinist

>>2395009
pootler

>>2394852
>sent to warzone
<voluntarily joined the military for citizenship

Can journos get any more disingenious?


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I'm noticing patterns recently with the most authoritarian communists on this board, the internet and in real life (though rarer in real life due to most of these people being shut-in freaks)
>calls themself an authoritarian communist, even though:
>>they literally don't have a job, or they have a "job" that they only got because one of their parents got them said job
>>is not involved in any way, shape, or form in the union at their place of employment, in fact actively despises colleagues and working class people in general because they might have less than politically correct opinions on things
>>has read all the material, and autistically corrects people on getting things wrong with regards to said material…to the point that they will alienate away anyone that might've actually been interested in left wing ideas
>>has LOTS OF OPINIONS on the politics of countries they only found out about because they watched a youtube video/wikipedia'd "what parties are left wing", lives in the middle of bumfucknowhere USA
>>continuing on with the previous point, will say insane, outlandish shit like "heh….everyone in X country should've just been genocided when X communist leader was in charge" in a tongue in cheek way, which only their weird orbiter followers will realise is a 'joke' while anyone else thinks they are fucking insane
>>freakishly obsessed with nerd hobbies to the point that it's offputting to anyone normal

Am I wrong in saying I think these sorts of people should be pulled away from leftist spaces for being annoying little LARPers? They always seem to be the "frontline" for left-wing discussions online for some reason, I assume because they have more time on their hands than people actually doing things in the real world.
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>>2393696
>(not)i(ci)n(g)ception

Political extremism dark triad narcissism something something

OP what you're talking about about is the opposite.
It's the utopian communists who want a leftist revolution but are NEETs

>>2394840
>but are NEETs
why would people living comfortably without getting thrown into the streets see "leftist" revolution" as a need

>calls themself an authoritarian communist
Nobody has ever called themselves that unironically, ever.


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Lal Salaam comrades
I am making this thread to ask indo-anons about the Bharat Bandh, i.e a nationwide strike by 10 major unions in India. It supposedly targeted 250million workers across India, but I am highly skeptical they got even 5million.
Also, since there is no India general, I figured a country with 1.4billion people and with a lot of drama under Modi's Rule deserves a thread where all the spice can be shared and discussed, among distinguished leftists.
inb4 the trolls : ignore trolls, do not feed their bait
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>>2385356
It is obviously not communist but it is ruled by the Communist Party since 20-30 years.
India has national government and state govt. Kerala is one of the 29 states, and while the Communist Party does badly nation-wide, it has a few states where it is strong (like Bengal and Kerala). Before 2014, the communists ruled Bengal for like 25+ years as well, but lost in 2014 and haven't recovered there yet. Kerala is the last bastion lol

>>2385785
So basically they didn't really do a good job

>>2386721
there's not much you can do when you have only state-level power and not national level power.

>>2385785
>>2384588
bengalanon here, the commie government ruled for 34 years and it rule ended back in 2010, when the lost by a landslide margin. CPIM, which may here thinks of as imperialistic, did surprisingly good things
>Operation Barga, which did land redistribution, many of poor folks got atleast some land of their own
>established heavy machinery, factories that gave jobs to people who guess what bought land and farmed.
>it also pardoned some maoist of naxal eras, one of them in my late grandfather
>established a good communal environment, even many muslims are largely swear by communist rule
>established a good panchayat system that provided good services
>established sectors and zones for IT hubs, textile markets and petrochemial refinery.

Was everything good? No.

>political violence was very much a reality(still is in bengal)
>ignored the problem of caste
>failed to update their policies, with changing neoliberal times
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>>2394026
>panchayat system
What is this?


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DeepSeek use to be very good and based. It was a bit of a libtard but you could very easily change its mind and then it would post very based stuff. Now there has been some sort of update. Now it’s a turbo liberal Zionist and you can never ever change its mind. It will just endlessly post libtard and Zionist propaganda nonstop if you try to argue with it. Sad that such a good app is ruined now. Weird considering it is Chinese you’d think it would be different but no it is just as bad as whatever USA liberal garbage ai now.
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>>2394025
>>2394055
>Debate addicts are learning to debatesturbate with personal AI chatbots
Surely Twitter be gone within the year, it's final niche has been displaced.

>>2394055

It's just for fun. But I also was wondering what Deepseek take on Stalin was, given Deepseek is based in China. I am massive disappointed in the CPC for allowing historical nihilism about Stalin.

>>2392787
>discussing politics with an LLM

>>2392787
The maseter American Race wins again. Toital Communist chink failure.

it is strange. my deepseek is megabased and only trips up when i ask it really specific questions about china. which is unfortunate because i actually want to know. like when i ask if russia is imperialist it says no but when i ask it if china supports russia or palestine it gets really vague and says that they uphold international law. it also totally flops on conspiracies and says stuff like past action of the CIA isn't enough to condemn it today without direct physical evidence and that even organizations should be presumed innocent until proven guilty because it could negatively effect peoples jobs and wouldn't be fair even if they are irreparably corrupt


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